Speaker 1: He is Drinks Chants, motherfucking podcast man.
Speaker 2: He's a legendary queens rapper.
Speaker 1: He ain't agreed as your boy in o R.
Speaker 3: He's a Miami hip hop pioneer put up as d
Speaker 3: J e f N.
Speaker 1: Together they drink it up with some of the biggest
Speaker 1: players you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source.
Speaker 1: For drunk drinks Chans post every day is New Year's Listen,
Speaker 1: It's time for Drink Champs. Drink Up mother.
Speaker 4: Yesterday we was filming and one of the craziest times
Speaker 4: and Drink Champs history is when we used to have
Speaker 4: the Elliott Wilson train and then Elliott Wilson pulled up
Speaker 4: and he pointed at us and we all said the
Speaker 4: Elliott Wilson training. Before we start anything, let me just
Speaker 4: say something. Whenever a person comes in the presence of
Speaker 4: Rock Kim, whenever a person comes in the presence of Knives,
Speaker 4: whenever a person come in the presidence of Jay z Uh,
Speaker 4: everyone SHOs start off their conversation and start their sentence
Speaker 4: by saying you are to go, and I would I
Speaker 4: would like to start off this by.
Speaker 1: Saying you are to go and We all come from
Speaker 1: your treaty.
Speaker 4: Whether you as a rapper trying to get an interview
Speaker 4: from you.
Speaker 1: Or now a rapper trying you know about the story.
Speaker 4: Because this is great, man, it is crazy, but let's
Speaker 4: just let's just take it from the beginning.
Speaker 1: Why what's up projects man?
Speaker 4: You you started into this hip hop thing? And was
Speaker 4: it echo that you started.
Speaker 1: At no beat Down? Beat Down?
Speaker 2: Be Down? What I'm thinking thinking about Sasagai.
Speaker 1: The key. Sasha was the one that taught me.
Speaker 2: Like you could do your own shipness went to school,
Speaker 2: No I met him. We went we actually went town school,
Speaker 2: didn't know each other, and then like I saw him
Speaker 2: at a party, Carris one party and we connected. He
Speaker 2: told me about the magazine was doing and then we
Speaker 2: became real good friends and we did beat Down for
Speaker 2: two years and it was like, okay, let's do something
Speaker 2: else ourselves.
Speaker 1: And that was eager.
Speaker 2: It's funny because the last our last issue at the
Speaker 2: death squads on the cover and we did something with
Speaker 2: you were like as like high choice to some kind
Speaker 2: of crazy ship.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Its like, is Noriega diabolical? And ship?
Speaker 1: The cover of Lines the Stick is so okay, boom, Wait,
Speaker 1: did you go to journalism school? Did you?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: No? That was just out here kid from Queen's just
Speaker 1: loving the culture. Run DMC was the inspiration, Like that
Speaker 1: was my ship. Like I was like, and I read
Speaker 1: the source.
Speaker 2: I was like, I want to be the like that
Speaker 2: had the music edit with the source, Reginald C.
Speaker 1: Dennis. I was like, I want to be that guy.
Speaker 2: He gets all the albums for this just come out,
Speaker 2: he reviews him, he controls the mics.
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted. I wanted to control the mics.
Speaker 1: I think even talking about editing.
Speaker 2: Chief and I wanted every rap album for anybody else
Speaker 2: had it, and I wanted to give the mics. That's
Speaker 2: all I cared about. So when Dave May's changed the mics,
Speaker 2: that's why I quit. And that's what the falling out was.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's that's not my speed.
Speaker 4: But so what you mean Dave May's changed the mics?
Speaker 4: What do you mean he changed the review of what
Speaker 4: was it? Corrupt?
Speaker 2: And then I think a Cannabis record, like he changed
Speaker 2: reviews on me, changed the mics on them without telling him,
Speaker 2: like what you had said?
Speaker 1: He changed that with I talked to three and a
Speaker 1: half and then he gave them four Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he pipped it up and took it down whatever.
Speaker 2: So that was the thing, Like even with Ray, I
Speaker 2: have no real problem with Ray. I had a problem
Speaker 2: with Dave Mays.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something years later I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: This is years later after the source of Wars because
Speaker 1: Hilton Show could beat me and so you know, you're
Speaker 1: a traumatized by by the way, I love you something Shaka,
Speaker 1: but he beat me. Pun d m X Corrup cav
Speaker 1: Dona Camera had no limit advertising.
Speaker 6: To be massive.
Speaker 1: People used to call and book his own ads back.
Speaker 4: And so years later, I don't want to say where
Speaker 4: with me and Viz you know we we we live
Speaker 4: on the same block, of course, and I just just
Speaker 4: say something to him and he's like and he doesn't
Speaker 4: admit it. He goes, he goes, he goes.
Speaker 1: You're still mad, And I'm like, I'm like, yo, he goes,
Speaker 1: he goes.
Speaker 4: But they were spending seventy five thousand I had, And
Speaker 4: you got to think about what seventy five thousand was
Speaker 4: back then, think about.
Speaker 1: How many ads they had. It was like it was
Speaker 1: every other fucking package.
Speaker 2: But but it's trying to master I remember he used
Speaker 2: to call, but it was like there wasn't all yet
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: It's before the Imbody movie came out. That's when it
Speaker 1: took off. So he would call and book back the
Speaker 1: cheap ads in the back of the book she had
Speaker 1: cold ship the Master.
Speaker 2: P Yeah, like he did all that from I remember
Speaker 2: we did a cover of him. Maze was like, yo,
Speaker 2: is he really good enough to be the whole cover?
Speaker 2: Like split the cover, like we had like money behind him,
Speaker 2: and she was like, yo, he's the guy right now
Speaker 2: New Orleans, Like he's taking off. So that's probably what
Speaker 2: it was. They were so used to dealing with him
Speaker 2: on some billing ship. He literally like came from like
Speaker 2: the classified ads back of the book. Yeah, so Master,
Speaker 2: we went from booking that ship to booking like major ship.
Speaker 1: So that what it was.
Speaker 4: By the way, we've been here way too long without
Speaker 4: popping a bottle of ace. And if y'all don't know,
Speaker 4: last night, me and Elliott hung out all night last night.
Speaker 1: We dranked.
Speaker 6: We didn't even so beautiful.
Speaker 4: It's so beautiful, like to sit around and just chop
Speaker 4: it up, you know what I mean, like no bullshit,
Speaker 4: just so we could if I would ask you to
Speaker 4: pop a bottle a but I don't have no faith
Speaker 4: in you animal.
Speaker 1: I don't know models, yo yo, people, would you like
Speaker 1: to show off tonight?
Speaker 2: Cool?
Speaker 1: Limit, let me let you hipop this.
Speaker 2: But I do want to say I love that I
Speaker 2: said him doing it last night, So I toltally like,
Speaker 2: I like how you got that shine with the ice
Speaker 2: cube ship. Oh okay, you like your you know, you're
Speaker 2: quiet legend, you humble, your humble soul type nigga, but
Speaker 2: you that nigga. So I love how the ice cube
Speaker 2: shit happened, and like organically like the attention to that, right,
Speaker 2: so you know, and we all hip hop. We know
Speaker 2: ice cubes a great storyteller, but maybe a generation doesn't
Speaker 2: know you educating him with.
Speaker 1: That so appreciated.
Speaker 4: And by the way, and by the way, let me
Speaker 4: just tell you something that's e f n every episode.
Speaker 1: It's just he argues with me every episode, so people,
Speaker 1: people don't understand that he's a passionate dude. I can't
Speaker 1: get him from Cuban.
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't get I can't get him to get a Chaine,
Speaker 4: I can't get him to get once.
Speaker 1: He's just he's taking he's he's spending little kids, but
Speaker 1: he's a passionate guy. And it was so dope to
Speaker 1: see how many people called me.
Speaker 4: Was like, yo, you know, the event has a point
Speaker 4: and that was and then there was other people who
Speaker 4: from Brooklyn, and I was like, for a long time,
Speaker 4: I don't go to Brooklyn, Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Best, I just cut it off the list, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Because but I was just playing. You know,
Speaker 1: that's a joking. People say, Yo, you was right though,
Speaker 1: actually because it's very it's a very healthy conversation. And
Speaker 1: that's what I feel like hip hop. I mean I
Speaker 1: felt that with you the other day.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, no, no, no, no, I did. I did no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: I did because I had to actually think about it.
Speaker 4: Like the thing about it is that's what hip hop
Speaker 4: was based on at one point. One point it was like, Yo,
Speaker 4: I'm better than you. Doesn't mean I'm better than you.
Speaker 4: I mean I'm a better person than you. I'm just
Speaker 4: saying I'm better than you.
Speaker 1: And a lot of times.
Speaker 4: It trickled down to beasts, and it trickled down to
Speaker 4: other things. When in the beginning, I don't remember k
Speaker 4: arrest one and I don't remember mc shan saying I'm
Speaker 4: gonna shoot you or whatever. Yeah, cool od and these
Speaker 4: people not remember that. I don't remember that. I remember
Speaker 4: them saying I'm just better than you and battling you.
Speaker 4: So I think that that this generation and what we're
Speaker 4: going through, like sometimes when we say that, uh, they
Speaker 4: automatically think it's a negative thing.
Speaker 2: So I know where you're coming from. Agrees with me
Speaker 2: with that competition? Competition anymore?
Speaker 4: Right, Yes, I agree with you, Robs. What type of
Speaker 4: shit you you're gonna want the bottom and put.
Speaker 1: It back in there and look the way, come on,
Speaker 1: come on and me and Elliot was got drunk his
Speaker 1: hair last night. And so what I say is I
Speaker 1: say that the same you know, I love that you
Speaker 1: and Rob you know, you know whatever. I had to
Speaker 1: call him real quick. Yes, I love that. I love that.
Speaker 1: I love Rob. I love that because to tell you the.
Speaker 2: Truth again, I want to reiterate something that you know
Speaker 2: that because Rob, we get competitive at times, me and
Speaker 2: Rob market Rob Markman and at one point right why
Speaker 2: helped him excel early days and stuff, But then you know,
Speaker 2: he shining on his own, so he gets competitive. I
Speaker 2: get all that so I don't remember what exactly what
Speaker 2: it was, but I think it was something about like
Speaker 2: a baby Face interview.
Speaker 1: We're both trying to interview baby Face some crazy shit,
Speaker 1: and then we kind of fell out.
Speaker 2: And then this thing that really blocked me on Twitter,
Speaker 2: like he was like blocking me like this, like yo,
Speaker 2: And I was like, ya, I got beef.
Speaker 1: For Rob Martin, like I like, I like dude, like so,
Speaker 1: but I accept my fault in that ship.
Speaker 2: So ho Bin's funeral we pulled up and I had
Speaker 2: I had a feeling like me and I was like,
Speaker 2: if I see Rob Martin, I'm just squatching that ship.
Speaker 2: Fuck it like it's not I know Hobin would want
Speaker 2: us to be one hundred with each other, you know.
Speaker 2: So and then Rob, to his credit, he came to
Speaker 2: me first, so we squashed it. So when that shit happened,
Speaker 2: I'm like, Yo, I don't want to go back to
Speaker 2: having no beef with this thing. Like That's why we
Speaker 2: called and talked it out. So solute, rond.
Speaker 4: But let me ask you, and this is over all honesty, elliot,
Speaker 4: you ever think that you're too competitive?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Like Yo, Sway is the most beloved figure in
Speaker 2: him hot, Yes, so for me to step on this
Speaker 2: moment which Rob said was wrong.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: Okay, So who says the right to say I'm the
Speaker 2: right to say that I'm the fucking goalt. Nobody was
Speaker 2: branding themselves as that ship before me, nor you know,
Speaker 2: we come from everywhere. It's like radio and press, but
Speaker 2: everybody's media now, everybody's.
Speaker 4: Who's the artist that I've said that swear was to go?
Speaker 4: And you commented on it? Who's the artist that that swear?
Speaker 1: Little baby?
Speaker 2: And okay, but they would say that because they was like, yo,
Speaker 2: he's a good guy. Fucking him that he's cool, Like
Speaker 2: he respects us, so we show love to him. So
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be the most beloved.
Speaker 4: Comput that to jay Z called himself the goat and
Speaker 4: then and then l L invented himself as the goal and.
Speaker 1: Who is wrong? Like who was wrong?
Speaker 4: Like I can't say jay Z is not the goat
Speaker 4: and I can't say we love home that's our friend.
Speaker 1: Yes, but I was.
Speaker 2: I was actually but I have the same jame with
Speaker 2: forty birthday as old who j So the movie that's
Speaker 2: part of my whole ship. Like I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: the gold I'm just gonna try to prove it to you,
Speaker 2: like I'm just focused on that, like it's important to me.
Speaker 4: But Ellie, let me just tell you something why in
Speaker 4: in case you don't know, this is drink Champs about
Speaker 4: giving people their flowers, and this is a this is
Speaker 4: a mini version of it. But let me just tell
Speaker 4: you something. What you did for hip hop. You're passionate
Speaker 4: for hip hop, and how you pursued it, and how
Speaker 4: you would go and get interviews in people's hoods.
Speaker 1: You would do, you would do whatever you had. Trust me,
Speaker 1: trust me.
Speaker 4: Let me just tell you something we recognize, we know.
Speaker 4: Don't nobody want to compete with you.
Speaker 1: We want to eat with you. A lot of people
Speaker 1: want to eat with you. But what it is is,
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like no, I just want
Speaker 1: to be honest.
Speaker 4: I feel like as soon as we get a little
Speaker 4: close to the rim, you'd be like blocking off shot
Speaker 4: and be like, yo, you the ball?
Speaker 1: You think I go too crazy with it? How you feel?
Speaker 7: You feel like you're real petty. I'm not mad at you,
Speaker 7: but you're real petty. You're no Caption posts are.
Speaker 1: The things I've ever seen. But but one thing for sure,
Speaker 1: thing for certain we know you for the culture, we
Speaker 1: know you're a getting you.
Speaker 2: This is why I don't get credit for him. It's
Speaker 2: like your niggers be doing this fucking five hour interview.
Speaker 2: God bless y'all. I hear about e fn ice Cube,
Speaker 2: him and Yale. I literally ripped. I'm not in your
Speaker 2: social media team, nigga. I rip like this segment that
Speaker 2: I think is the hottest segment of the fucking interview.
Speaker 2: I put the ship up. You get engagement, nigga. I'm
Speaker 2: doing your love. That's why I do. Nobody else, nobody
Speaker 2: else's content that way. So competitive as I am, I
Speaker 2: still acknowledge, like if Yo, you had to shot, nobody
Speaker 2: does it like that, and you're correct and give me.
Speaker 1: And it never will. That's right. That's what in fact,
Speaker 1: I think World Star bid off of you. I think
Speaker 1: you did that first and the World Star.
Speaker 2: Oh social media strategy and style. Now I saw the
Speaker 2: whole social media strategy style with that ship, like nobody
Speaker 2: was doing it at the time.
Speaker 1: So that's right, So hold on.
Speaker 8: You know what I got to witness though, I got
Speaker 8: to witness Elliott Wilson and Eddie the Asked Eater have
Speaker 8: an asked eating conversation like ten minutes when this happening.
Speaker 1: I never thought. I never thought in my life I
Speaker 1: would hear this behind me. I like it. I like it.
Speaker 1: I did I like it. Oh my god, I wasn't ready.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to text me this next question that was
Speaker 1: I was not ready. I was not ready. But so
Speaker 1: that's pre marriage. That's the way. But let me ask you,
Speaker 1: Let me ask you.
Speaker 4: This is real tal yes, sir, and I want you
Speaker 4: to be honest, as honest as you could be because
Speaker 4: I felt this way too, but obviously you might have
Speaker 4: felt this way way before me. The fact that everybody
Speaker 4: has a computer set.
Speaker 1: A mic and a speaker.
Speaker 4: Everyone thinks that they can now be a journalist or
Speaker 4: part of media or even a phone.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, some of these guys are worthy.
Speaker 4: Some of these guys are funny, some of these guys
Speaker 4: are like, way okay. But then some of these guys
Speaker 4: just look at what another person is doing and say,
Speaker 4: I'm a mimic fact, and everyone kind of feels like,
Speaker 4: that's why I hate being on social media, because at
Speaker 4: that time, we're all on the same level. It doesn't
Speaker 4: matter how much I am or how less I am
Speaker 4: or whatever, whatever, did you ever think that the media
Speaker 4: game would be this.
Speaker 1: Warded down? Man? I do. It was not warded down,
Speaker 1: but so active.
Speaker 2: Like then it makes sense, Like we was talking about
Speaker 2: little bit last night, I was like, it would make
Speaker 2: sense that someone like yourself that like MVP in the game,
Speaker 2: like you see Charles Barkley, he made a transition, right,
Speaker 2: So you have a whole generation doesn't even know Charles,
Speaker 2: like a cannibal player want championships.
Speaker 1: So my thing is like, you don't make that segue.
Speaker 2: It makes sense that you come from the culture and
Speaker 2: like you was staying it and become commentators on the culture.
Speaker 2: But you know, I didn't see that. And also I
Speaker 2: didn't think that media would be looked at as like
Speaker 2: a cool thing. It wasn't cool, But I was a
Speaker 2: nigga trying to lead that that is cool. People brought
Speaker 2: into the Wyan persona. This guy's crazy, he's battling the source.
Speaker 2: Like they connected to that thing that made it somewhat cool.
Speaker 2: If you're riding with us it was against them, you're
Speaker 2: connected to that. So that's what bugs me out is that,
Speaker 2: like it's cool. And then the other thing I said
Speaker 2: to you yesterday too, it's like no Ye but Joe
Speaker 2: Budden Fact, Joe Jilly the motherfucking kid. Yes, you always
Speaker 2: no disrespect. Muckle has you almost like the wild live
Speaker 2: wire dude. So for y'all are like, figure it out
Speaker 2: and be whatever it is.
Speaker 1: I never saw that coming. Love to all y'all. You
Speaker 1: know you know what's crazy.
Speaker 4: But I always always, I always knew I was more
Speaker 4: than an artist because I always remembered I would never
Speaker 4: want to be late.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when I never was late, I remember a
Speaker 1: friend of mine, his name is Rob Love Shout.
Speaker 4: Rob used to say, you're not an artist, and I
Speaker 4: used to be like what he used to be, like,
Speaker 4: no artist comes on time. And another person who reiterated
Speaker 4: that was my friend Shampoo, so big of a shampoo.
Speaker 1: I think he's around here somewhere. And I knew I was.
Speaker 1: I was destined to do something else. Now was was
Speaker 1: it media?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: No way?
Speaker 4: Now we just hung out with uh Cipher Styles and Rosenberg.
Speaker 4: The ciber size in Rosenberg is credited the first first
Speaker 4: hip hop part. They absolutely were And what do you
Speaker 4: feel about that? Because they were. They're lucky that both
Speaker 4: of them, that both of them. Sipher has a luxurious
Speaker 4: career out, just on on to first guess, get the.
Speaker 1: Out of here.
Speaker 2: I recognize people when they like I was like, Yo,
Speaker 2: what y'all doing is cool? I want to be a
Speaker 2: guest on the ship. No, I guess I did it.
Speaker 2: It was the first guest on one scene. Clue to them.
Speaker 2: That's my point is, like, I guess my whole thing
Speaker 2: when you look at me, I'm the most competitive, and
Speaker 2: I guess sometimes I do go too far. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, nobody gives as many love and as
Speaker 2: sister as I do too. Yeah, that's a fashion.
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not like, take your shine away, Like that's a
Speaker 2: great moment you you and yo talking about motherfucker.
Speaker 1: That ship is legendary. So that dessert.
Speaker 2: I'm a rat fan. I want to see that on
Speaker 2: my time. So that's why I rip that ship because
Speaker 2: that's what's in the culture, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So my thing is I'm always challenging the status quo.
Speaker 1: But I always like, at the.
Speaker 2: End of the day, I'm always gonna play the game
Speaker 2: the right way. I'm not gonna play in a fout way.
Speaker 2: I'm always gonna credit you know, situation, Like, so do
Speaker 2: you think there's.
Speaker 3: A lack of Okay, hold on, do you think there's
Speaker 3: a lack of passion and hip hop journalists?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? Absolutely, some people are doing it just like normally
Speaker 4: has a passion.
Speaker 2: That's like, that's what I said again going back to
Speaker 2: my live why guys know everybody the thing why they
Speaker 2: win is they have the passion. Nobody was like Joe
Speaker 2: Budden's really gonna be this dedicated to do what he does.
Speaker 2: Nobody was like, noriy is gonna be this dedicated to
Speaker 2: what he does? I said, as I'm like, yill know
Speaker 2: how you still stay motivated? Like what what gets you
Speaker 2: right to get?
Speaker 1: Like you? Why do you care why you're so motivated?
Speaker 1: Like who'll took it.
Speaker 6: Back on me?
Speaker 2: United's like Elliot's time to talk to you again because
Speaker 2: in his mind, he's building content all the time in
Speaker 2: his mind.
Speaker 1: So that's that dedication. I respect it.
Speaker 4: And by the way, like I said yesterday, and I
Speaker 4: didn't realize it was live yesterday, but you know it
Speaker 4: was at one point we were just you know, go
Speaker 4: on Twitter back and forth, just doing what competitors, competitors
Speaker 4: do and b dot dot said, and I will always
Speaker 4: give him the credit for this and that I said
Speaker 4: the differ between us as we're really fans, And that
Speaker 4: was the one quote. It wasn't disrespectful at all. He
Speaker 4: didn't curse, he didn't say fuck you, he didn't say.
Speaker 1: Fuck my mother. He just he just said, you're really
Speaker 1: a fan.
Speaker 4: And I sat back and I was like, that shit
Speaker 4: hit me so hard because it's like, how the fuck
Speaker 4: can I really be a fan of DMX when I
Speaker 4: want his number one spot?
Speaker 6: How can I?
Speaker 1: How can I be a fan?
Speaker 4: So I'm thinking about it and I'm like, damn, that
Speaker 4: was so true. So instead of me actually you know,
Speaker 4: you know, rebutterant or whatever, what I did was, you
Speaker 4: know what, I threw away my artistry. I was like,
Speaker 4: you know what, fuck it, I'm going now. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: now reintroduce myself. My name is fan, you know, like
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I went and I went
Speaker 4: back and I listened to ill Matic. I went back
Speaker 4: and I listened to the biggies because I was like,
Speaker 4: you know what, I wanted to do that and that
Speaker 4: shit made me better.
Speaker 6: Like and even even even like we.
Speaker 1: Had this funny joke, I always wanted to ask you
Speaker 1: about this. The Elliott Wilson train like what we was
Speaker 1: doing CBS hilarious And what happened was how did that start?
Speaker 1: Even how it really started? How did that really start?
Speaker 5: Damn?
Speaker 3: We was We was at at a spot that had
Speaker 3: a train track next to it, and every time we
Speaker 3: had a good moment in the pod, trained were being
Speaker 3: competitive and CBS with each other, and then we would
Speaker 3: be like Elliott Wilson sab yo.
Speaker 1: It was so fun.
Speaker 4: But by the way, the fans loved that. By the way,
Speaker 4: to me, I believe me, you E F N and
Speaker 4: B that we we built what is podcasting now? Of
Speaker 4: course with Joe Budd. Of course with Joe Budd, we
Speaker 4: built it. I believe the people that kind of started
Speaker 4: it was Simon Siles Roseenberg comback Jack can't forget taxed
Speaker 4: one even though he has tea I see was the
Speaker 4: first one the internet radio Yes rappers, so he's going
Speaker 4: with this.
Speaker 1: He's saying that somebody rap Radar and drink.
Speaker 4: Champ every what happened podcast it was we started, we
Speaker 4: started making the algorithms changed because he started to say listen.
Speaker 4: Even though we were competitive against each other, but it
Speaker 4: was like competitive, what's guests that you'll.
Speaker 1: Have Boom boom boom, and then that was that one year.
Speaker 1: I believe you had Drake and then Jay back to
Speaker 1: back and we was like, fuck it was.
Speaker 3: It was a pond wars that I was like, that
Speaker 3: happened running. It was like rap battles. It was fun
Speaker 3: for the audience and it made them engage.
Speaker 1: More with us. You know how mad I was that
Speaker 1: that fucking Kanye ship.
Speaker 4: Ship because I said it on Home Complex, we gotta
Speaker 4: say it on our own ship. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 4: I searched for where the fuck they did jay Z's
Speaker 4: and I just was like yo.
Speaker 1: I was like yo, So I searched, I'm searching, and
Speaker 1: then I've become a member of Mallible right, so Mallible.
Speaker 1: Actually I actually rented a house just to be a
Speaker 1: member of Mallible House because anybodyho was brought of Soul House,
Speaker 1: you know, you could do the oil house, or you
Speaker 1: could do the local house, or you do whatever. I
Speaker 1: did the all house.
Speaker 4: But then I realized when I came to Malleable one time,
Speaker 4: they was like you can't get it in, motherfucker. And
Speaker 4: I was like, so I rented the house and I
Speaker 4: ran here and I ran when they said that I'm accepted.
Speaker 1: I ran. I went to orientation.
Speaker 4: I'm walking around doing all this dumb ship and when
Speaker 4: they walked me into this room, I'm with nothing but
Speaker 4: white people in one black people with dress.
Speaker 1: He looks like he paints or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1: And we stood there and I looked into this room.
Speaker 1: I said, motherfly.
Speaker 6: Orientation, and I'm like, holy shit.
Speaker 1: But that's that's what's crazy. And this is something. Let
Speaker 1: me just ask you this.
Speaker 4: This was crazy one that was remarkable because it made
Speaker 4: it seem like it was JYZ crib. But to what
Speaker 4: made y'all fucking do the interview in black and white?
Speaker 1: The whole era?
Speaker 2: I was doing everything black and white because we had
Speaker 2: the CBS Radio era. Okay, so with title, I was like,
Speaker 2: yo's gotta kind of a reburn. So I wanted everything
Speaker 2: to be black and white. So remember we did y'all
Speaker 2: black and white like one.
Speaker 1: Of the first ones.
Speaker 2: We did you in the f N We did that
Speaker 2: like it was the fourth episode. So Will Smith changed
Speaker 2: that ship because beat Out was like, Yo, we did
Speaker 2: it hungry. Will Smith had rented out the hotel. The
Speaker 2: ship looked fly as fuck the past Hungry it's already
Speaker 2: black and white. What so beat Out was like, Yo,
Speaker 2: we gotta do this in color, and then we were
Speaker 2: right back to color. But before the every episode was
Speaker 2: black and white. Because of that, that's why it was
Speaker 2: I wanted to be like classic.
Speaker 1: But do you still own that episode? Yeah? Absolutely? So
Speaker 1: could you drop that episode in color? Oh wow? I
Speaker 1: could look at its animal? No, No, you know, let
Speaker 1: me just tell you something. Bust and ROMs and my
Speaker 1: friend and I always tell them just because.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you this, I'm explained to that. So because
Speaker 4: you're my friend doesn't take away from me being your fan.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm saying so yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that would be crazy. I'm getting
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying about the Malibu. So the
Speaker 1: maliboun ship was like.
Speaker 2: Damn, we had a couple like you know, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: like you're going to get the big interview, Okay.
Speaker 1: So he finally agreed, finally agreed. Okay.
Speaker 2: So then it's like okay, and I'm still living New York.
Speaker 2: He's like, well, come to Cali or whatever. So I
Speaker 2: told you that we're not hitting until we land because
Speaker 2: you know Castle chased the mind like, so, I'm like,
Speaker 2: he gave us to go. I'm titled with the time
Speaker 2: Boom Boom, so I'm like, we get into playing boom.
Speaker 1: We land.
Speaker 2: As soon as we landed, I was like, okay, we
Speaker 2: where are we doing this? You know, ho what we're doing?
Speaker 1: Like he's like.
Speaker 2: That was back and forth, and then he said the
Speaker 2: SO House and I thought it was the Hollywood Joint.
Speaker 2: It was the main one in Hollywood. Then it's like Malibu.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, ship, we got to get to the so.
Speaker 1: We got there and that's that's how it went down.
Speaker 2: But the funny thing that happened was it was set
Speaker 2: up with all the food that was geeked out because
Speaker 2: he was coming.
Speaker 1: And I wanted the whole thing of like the whole.
Speaker 2: I wanted the window to kind of be open so
Speaker 2: you can hear the sea breeze type vibe of it.
Speaker 1: And they was like that's gonna fuck up with the sound.
Speaker 1: Up the sound.
Speaker 2: But then once Jay sat down, they all fanboyd outs.
Speaker 2: They got closer the door and up and running.
Speaker 1: So that was the COO.
Speaker 2: That's why we didn't touch the food. It was just like, yo,
Speaker 2: let's get to the if only have them. We really
Speaker 2: didn't eat none of that food. It was so the
Speaker 2: whole time.
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy.
Speaker 4: When me and Ben first started, y'all was our blueprints.
Speaker 4: So if I don't know, if you remember our first
Speaker 4: couple of episodes, we were standing in front of the
Speaker 4: CBS Sun were doing the.
Speaker 6: Same exact thing.
Speaker 1: I remember.
Speaker 4: So we didn't know, like we just didn't know what
Speaker 4: to do, and the CBS signed us. And then what
Speaker 4: we did was like you said, let's just go, let's
Speaker 4: just do what we wanted, and that was to give
Speaker 4: people their flowers. And I want to give you know,
Speaker 4: people that that's forgotten about because like we just did
Speaker 4: an interview with Shade Rock mm hmm. That's the first
Speaker 4: female artist ever invented, and she was she was there
Speaker 4: standing across one scarlet, and to me, this was so.
Speaker 1: Because this is the.
Speaker 4: And then this is what the new, you know, And
Speaker 4: I'm like in my mind, I'm like, this is what
Speaker 4: the gods want, this is what the gods of hip
Speaker 4: hop want.
Speaker 9: This ship and.
Speaker 1: Again, our coaches should be preserved so much. Our culture
Speaker 1: should be uh, you know, it should be that, it
Speaker 1: should be, it should be the new teaching the old.
Speaker 4: The problem is a lot of people don't want it.
Speaker 4: So what was my man name from yesterday?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: That you you had with you they were sitting in
Speaker 1: here king my generation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because what I knew him from Adam twenty first,
Speaker 2: started with Adam twenty two.
Speaker 1: The only thing now our generation is something that you're doing,
Speaker 1: you embracing new bloggers. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I never met the brothers, so yeah, absolutely, yeah, okay, absolutely, okay,
Speaker 2: holy ship, holy ship.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm a nice guy who would have known.
Speaker 4: Let's break down the affiliation with you and Joe Budden, because.
Speaker 1: That's the right word.
Speaker 3: I don't know, is it I'm saying because something happened
Speaker 3: where you because you're saying you're back outside and it.
Speaker 1: Was noticing complex ship. I don't know what it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. It seemed like you
Speaker 1: just took a the media list that ship bothered you
Speaker 1: went crazy. Yeah, a good Patty person takes that.
Speaker 6: Patty.
Speaker 1: Now, Patty, I think it's like, y'all, y'all fucked up.
Speaker 1: Lit then like let me remind y'all. But but his
Speaker 1: what's crazy about that complex list? Said drink Champs.
Speaker 4: They never said that's yes, that way to me, Nori
Speaker 4: is not as affluent influence you as drink Champs. Just
Speaker 4: drink Champs. That makes it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: I respect the list, don't get it twisted. I liked
Speaker 4: it where I was at.
Speaker 1: It was cool. But I was like five or something
Speaker 1: like that. It was five, and it was like, I
Speaker 1: respect being ahead of Elliott. I just I'm just don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not an influencer. I'm they had just influencer. I
Speaker 1: felt like I had only fan TikTok on motherfucker on influences.
Speaker 1: I'm influencing ship that was already out.
Speaker 6: I mean, if you fucking b.
Speaker 4: And me, motherfucker, Like, how am I influences? They was
Speaker 4: the influencer and I'm just influencing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was cool. I loved the complex.
Speaker 2: I'm not how do you feel when you know you
Speaker 2: have one of those interviews you're about to drop.
Speaker 1: That on us and like we don't see it coming,
Speaker 1: and how do you feel? Now? That's how I fund
Speaker 1: about the Tony yo?
Speaker 2: Yo?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it was dope, but no, you made
Speaker 1: a good point last night. Ye you said, like everybody
Speaker 1: did ya? Yo? Last like kid him this ship, let's
Speaker 1: keep on. Yes, that's what's true. Sit with me. You're paying.
Speaker 1: I believe it's five to ten K, but go ahead.
Speaker 2: Ain't the fact that Yale's outside doing so much press
Speaker 2: shay yo, He's a good dude.
Speaker 1: Watched now watching him on Blade? How does noid make
Speaker 1: that special? That's the bed? What what you do? I
Speaker 1: think about it?
Speaker 4: Think about it is it's always sitting there watching and saying, oh,
Speaker 4: he don't know what he got, she don't know what
Speaker 4: she got, And I'm realizing that I'm looking at him
Speaker 4: and I'm like, yo, one, I was in the locker
Speaker 4: room with ya.
Speaker 1: Yo. That's the difference. That's a difference between.
Speaker 4: Me being a journalist, me me saying you know what,
Speaker 4: but not only that if you don't really realize. I
Speaker 4: had just had a clip where I was like, yo,
Speaker 4: fifty and Nelly.
Speaker 1: I put both of y'all on. Nelly used to be
Speaker 1: with me, keep going, you want to pop it out one,
Speaker 1: you better know how to pop it. I can't do it, Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: So hold on, this one's still open, this one still
Speaker 1: turn to give me a sorry? Yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: come on so.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: So when I said that, I said to Nelly, because
Speaker 4: you know, Nell used to hang out in Penalcy Records,
Speaker 4: and then fifty I was the first person to do
Speaker 4: a feature with fifty two times, sir. So then I
Speaker 4: said that I was just playing around and I saw
Speaker 4: the comments and I saw that Everybody's like, Yo, that's
Speaker 4: so dope, and I was like, you know what, it's yeah,
Speaker 4: Yo's time, It's the loyal Person's time, It's gum Places times,
Speaker 4: It's Memphis Bleak's time, Jim Jones time.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's it's Jungle's time, It's Emery's time, it's Tata's time.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's only people that were
Speaker 1: standing next to the man that's the man, that's that
Speaker 1: man now that people don't know about you understand what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And I thought about that because a lot of people
Speaker 4: don't understand, which is crazy. Copone was on before me,
Speaker 4: Faith Newman. Compone was signed to Faith Newman. So in
Speaker 4: all actuality, I'm not the front man of seeing that.
Speaker 4: I'm actually the Jim Jones is seeing it.
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm actually the Tony Yale.
Speaker 6: I'm seeing it.
Speaker 1: I just I took the motherfucking fifty cent C.
Speaker 2: But I started the hottest, the hottest ship. I don't
Speaker 2: feel know, remember tell me what you did the solo record. Yes,
Speaker 2: they put out a snippet that.
Speaker 1: Had like that records. No, no, no, I can't let
Speaker 1: you take that away from the big that was that
Speaker 1: snipper ship. Yes on tape. I got it.
Speaker 2: Everybody that was ever fronting up, you know, the whole
Speaker 2: thing was like seeing that we got my deep.
Speaker 1: They sounds like that's right, ye, yes, I love that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it on you. So then Noid steps out,
Speaker 1: you know, sadly had to do what I do.
Speaker 2: Noid steps out, and it's just like, oh, y'all Nory
Speaker 2: fans all of a sudden, like everybody likes what's that?
Speaker 1: Even the like, oh no, he's amazing. Wait word, that's
Speaker 1: what it was like. He wouldn't give it a cover neither,
Speaker 1: but that but that snippet, that snippet though with the
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: Know if you remember that snippet I love my life.
Speaker 4: It was not singing that hook.
Speaker 1: It wasn't that vinyl with have that vinyl yeah, white label,
Speaker 1: So you was that? You was that? But how did
Speaker 1: that feel? He was the hardestiger right there instill in
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 2: He was with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't instantly. What I did was.
Speaker 4: I kind of realized the world was leaving New York City.
Speaker 4: I knew it because I went down South and juvenile
Speaker 4: them had already had their own movement, clips in them
Speaker 4: kind of had their own movement. This is after the
Speaker 4: Capon and this is me going seven kind of because
Speaker 4: I made I made the album in ninety seven, so
Speaker 4: this is.
Speaker 1: And I kind of knew. So when I kind of
Speaker 1: knew that other areas that having their moments we connected
Speaker 1: in ninety seven. He's so invested in our relationship. So
Speaker 1: I made I made the album actually in Miami. Oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I made half of the album, most.
Speaker 4: Of the album and the other half with track mastertone
Speaker 4: Ton and Poke and Steve Stout. You don't get enough
Speaker 4: credit for the NRI album Jungle, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: They all bung me. Half of the album I did
Speaker 4: the Miami and the other half I did in Bensville.
Speaker 4: So I didn't But when I went to the clubs
Speaker 4: in Miami, what I would understand was they would be
Speaker 4: like this, and I was like, so in phar Real,
Speaker 4: this is the funniest shit in the world. I connect for.
Speaker 4: I got the tight shirt on everybody is working for
Speaker 4: I don't remember, but it wasn't it wasn't gangster color.
Speaker 1: Whatever it was.
Speaker 4: It was, and he had a tight shirt and he
Speaker 4: said to me. I listened to two beats, and he said,
Speaker 4: listen to this third beat. And I remember exactly. He's like,
Speaker 4: don't listen to this third beat till you get to Miami.
Speaker 4: And I had a walking on this was CD shit,
Speaker 4: and I listened to the first beat. I listened to
Speaker 4: the second beating. I was so curious for the third beat.
Speaker 4: I landed, went to the k Hotel whatever whatever. The
Speaker 4: Kent Hotel still is opened, the most fastiest hotel. I'm
Speaker 4: just stayed there just to humble myself. Yeah yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna stay there, not even go in the room. I'm
Speaker 4: just going to the bar and just leave, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Just to humble myself. Anyway, I wrote
Speaker 4: the whole but as soon as I heard that ship,
Speaker 4: I wrote that ship. I came back and when I
Speaker 4: realized that this was a South beat, no matter how
Speaker 4: New York I rhymed on it, it was so this
Speaker 4: won that was my first record that resonated in the South,
Speaker 4: Like I was number one in New York, but I
Speaker 4: was number one in the South at the same time,
Speaker 4: and I was really number one in the Bay Area.
Speaker 4: The only place I wasn't number one was LA And
Speaker 4: I always attributed that to like, oh okay, maybe the
Speaker 4: l A LA ship.
Speaker 1: So I spent so much time in LA at that
Speaker 1: time trying to do it. And that's where I formed
Speaker 1: on my relationships. But let's get back to you journalism.
Speaker 4: In the beginning, it was this mic system, right yo, listen,
Speaker 4: I might I don't want to say in the beginning
Speaker 4: like this the beginning of the hip hop saying in
Speaker 4: the beginning for my version, like when the mic system happened.
Speaker 4: I remember if you when you got four mics, you
Speaker 4: immediately went gold. You're immediately went platinum.
Speaker 1: Was that something that was left up to you or
Speaker 1: that was something that was the staff?
Speaker 2: Mean they told me that, uh, you have to like
Speaker 2: get the advanced concess because that's the whole thing. Press
Speaker 2: would send the advanced cancets they dub it. You make
Speaker 2: cassetts for everybody on staff, and then we're gonna have
Speaker 2: a big meeting and discuss it. So I remember it
Speaker 2: was earlier in the year. It was like April or so.
Speaker 2: It was like so the it wasn't being released. It
Speaker 2: was like Warren g and like some other releases that
Speaker 2: nobody cared about.
Speaker 1: So I called the meeting.
Speaker 2: Nobody shows up to the meeting the music you're saying,
Speaker 2: because it wasn't like party comes out with his out
Speaker 2: and everybody cares. When this was told me that I'm
Speaker 2: after Mike meeting with the people. So I gave them records.
Speaker 2: I dubbed the cassette for everybody.
Speaker 4: I give them the part I'm not understand that was
Speaker 4: the mic system already in play or.
Speaker 2: This is I was okay, said it has to go
Speaker 2: through a process to get to what you think it
Speaker 2: should be, which is involving everybody involved. So when I
Speaker 2: reached out to everybody and then receptive, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna do.
Speaker 1: What I want. And then I get someone hides it.
Speaker 2: The Times terran chief and they made the publisher. So
Speaker 2: if they agree, that's what's gonna be. So every time,
Speaker 2: you know, I'll bring it to them.
Speaker 1: And that's what it was. But I didn't do the
Speaker 1: whole like big meeting and like it was like I cared.
Speaker 2: About it so much. I was like, yo, you have
Speaker 2: to trust it. That's my opinion. Now what you remember?
Speaker 2: I remember the funny thing with you was like so
Speaker 2: seeing that comes in again the ship is hard. But
Speaker 2: then like certain records didn't make the album, like because
Speaker 2: samples and ship with no odds the joint so bad.
Speaker 1: We wanted four and a half at least so bad,
Speaker 1: like I fought for four whether y'all three and a half? Now?
Speaker 2: Then Toppy boy ran up with the four mics in
Speaker 2: the thing and like no he remember, know you you
Speaker 2: push the album back?
Speaker 1: Know what happened?
Speaker 3: Was that?
Speaker 1: Because' right?
Speaker 4: But what happened was we sampled closer sam see Steve record,
Speaker 4: and then they wouldn't clear it. And then we put
Speaker 4: the album out and the album actually did good and
Speaker 4: the people that we sampled from stam Steed called back.
Speaker 4: It was like we shut you down. Wow, wow, yeah
Speaker 4: we and even you gotta remember we had I don't
Speaker 4: remember if this is in the review, but we have
Speaker 4: oh no music make the We couldn't only not clear nas,
Speaker 4: but we couldn't clear the samples because the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so that's the.
Speaker 4: Reason why God blessed us to sound so crazy for you.
Speaker 1: Remember that it was mad though, because you wasn't you
Speaker 1: wasn't known enough yet. It was early.
Speaker 2: This is Carris One, still carre Us one. So I
Speaker 2: gave him leave review. He gave him free and a
Speaker 2: half mike.
Speaker 1: They was mad.
Speaker 2: And then right after that seeing that four mics, that's
Speaker 2: what that's why people was mad.
Speaker 1: It was just like, oh, I call a lot of
Speaker 1: heat for that.
Speaker 2: If let me ask you this and be honest, is
Speaker 2: you can't you know why you he asking me to
Speaker 2: be honest honest?
Speaker 3: Did you ever feel that you had regional bias when
Speaker 3: you were when you're reviewing some of the music that
Speaker 3: was from New York.
Speaker 2: No, I had to change that though, let me tell
Speaker 2: you because the humbly I realized that I love New York,
Speaker 2: but New York ain't ship.
Speaker 1: So he's here's where the magic happened. I mean, that's crazy,
Speaker 1: but I met. Yeah, I'm the ultimate New York nigga.
Speaker 1: I can't even drive little clip.
Speaker 2: I'm New York for life. I'm in New York to
Speaker 2: my core. So wherever I live, I'm New Yorker. Let
Speaker 2: it be a problem, which different. So, but my point is,
Speaker 2: I remember in benis New York doesn't show up the
Speaker 2: way that New York is a a as a loud voice.
Speaker 2: But it's a smaller thing and the world is very big.
Speaker 2: You get caught up in that. So sometimes I got
Speaker 2: it right. Since I got it wrong dip Set with
Speaker 2: Jim Jones, he was mad at me for a long time.
Speaker 2: We good now shout out to Poppo because I didn't
Speaker 2: think dip Set was like a national thing.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a New York thing. I was wrong.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize they wearing the jeans and the belts
Speaker 2: and so it was international at the time.
Speaker 1: But I didn't see it at that time, and I
Speaker 1: got it wrong.
Speaker 2: I remember doing a cover where it's like, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: do a Jadakiss cover in Nelly, so Jadakiss He's on
Speaker 2: the cover of ten markets really from Maine down to Florida,
Speaker 2: all the East coast markets, and then I'm going to
Speaker 2: get Nelly across Midwest to the West, and that would
Speaker 2: sell and I would see the power if and I
Speaker 2: would know, okay, cool, like that's what it is like.
Speaker 2: You can't get so caught up in that side of
Speaker 2: the globe, that Eastern run of Like, so.
Speaker 1: You said you can read the algorithms, he read his algorithm.
Speaker 3: Because you're discovering the power of these artists in terms
Speaker 3: of what it means numbers wise, like business numbers whatever,
Speaker 3: or we create so music musical tastes.
Speaker 1: You might have said, you might have discovered that and
Speaker 1: still not thought the music was no. But it's kind
Speaker 1: of like what Noori is saying earlier. We were proud
Speaker 1: of New Yorkers.
Speaker 2: We created this whole ship, don't get it fucked up
Speaker 2: fifty But at the same time, it's not us to
Speaker 2: possess forever.
Speaker 1: He sort of transchanging. That's how he started to move.
Speaker 2: In a different way, which was the lineage even for
Speaker 2: drink Chance to be here now absolutely that's the adaption.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, if this guy Nelly, like, it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter if New York doesn't think he's hip hop enough
Speaker 2: and he's not the.
Speaker 1: Cooler like no Midwest and West. It's like there's a
Speaker 1: whole other world. Acknowledge that I used to hang with.
Speaker 4: Nelly when him and Cooler Love just trying to get
Speaker 4: a deal that penalty records. I should just hang with
Speaker 4: Nelly's just be around Nelly when it was not cool
Speaker 4: to be around fifty cent. I used to be around
Speaker 4: fifty cent when it was not cool to mess with
Speaker 4: cash money.
Speaker 1: I was with cash. It's not cool to even know
Speaker 1: who loulu Wayne was.
Speaker 4: I was with lu Wayne because I was traveling to
Speaker 4: these markets and I was realizing these markets had something.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't that I wasn't proud to be from
Speaker 1: New York, but I was just still proud to say,
Speaker 1: let me introduce this to my markets. And now we're
Speaker 1: looking at the.
Speaker 4: Same way I looked at Reggaeto and when I saw
Speaker 4: reggae Tho, I was like yo. I was like, yo,
Speaker 4: this ship is going to pop because there's nothing like
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. I'm married and my wife is right
Speaker 4: over there.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But there's nothing like a
Speaker 1: Latin our woman just grinding and you're just looking at her. WHOA,
Speaker 1: You're gonna like him? You gonna like that's right, that's right.
Speaker 4: Did I don't have apologize my bad so, but when
Speaker 4: I'm saying, okay, I'll pop another one, you don't. You
Speaker 4: got no faith in you? But but yeah, So it
Speaker 4: was like that and and The thing is, man, our
Speaker 4: coach is so beautiful, man, when you really think.
Speaker 1: About it, Man, I love it. Competitive man, So tell
Speaker 1: us about this Rock Nation brunch.
Speaker 2: Yo, beat having chests out that ship wear. His last
Speaker 2: window was dope because we we got working after that.
Speaker 2: So it's like like todd the Creator, like I need
Speaker 2: ten years ago. Yes, and I've been trying to talk
Speaker 2: to him for ten years the Creator.
Speaker 1: Man, Yo, he'd be ill drink. Yeah, we got like
Speaker 1: the greatest relationship. Like it's weird, and it's like.
Speaker 2: He's a great kids, he's a great kill So wherever
Speaker 2: you what happened wasn't that brunch, Like I have my
Speaker 2: history with him. It was the first time at the brunch,
Speaker 2: but you know he's a little socially awkward with these
Speaker 2: are weird kids of that. So like I felt like
Speaker 2: we was like protecting him, like fans are coming up
Speaker 2: with like trying to grab me and beat out, and
Speaker 2: did him even beat out? Like talked for like forty
Speaker 2: minutes to have a great conversation, Like you know, all
Speaker 2: of a sudden.
Speaker 1: It was time to do a podcast. So it was up,
Speaker 1: you know Toddler, Goddamn, I gotta go now on somebody. Okay, alright,
Speaker 1: cool That shoot shooter shooler, come on.
Speaker 2: The brush was great for us because that helped us
Speaker 2: bond with Tyler to get that interview babyface to him
Speaker 2: and his wonderful.
Speaker 1: It's Girl weekend, his camp that does his ship kicked
Speaker 1: it with him.
Speaker 2: So I feel like that was a major networking thing
Speaker 2: that led to that good podcasts after that.
Speaker 1: Shout out to them, run God damn, shout to the
Speaker 1: rock Nations.
Speaker 6: Run.
Speaker 1: But nobody got more as than Norri. How did you
Speaker 1: do that? No, ain't because nobody got more say something.
Speaker 1: I love that, But let me just say something to
Speaker 1: the cameras because nobody drink more ace. And that's the fact.
Speaker 4: By the way, let me just tell y'all something because
Speaker 4: I was saying it earlier.
Speaker 1: What do we do earlier?
Speaker 4: I forget the monster fifty monster. Let me just tell
Speaker 4: you something. If it's hip hop, if it's.
Speaker 1: A tril Burger, I'm gonna find out where the trill
Speaker 1: Burger is. I'm gonna hunt that down and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: eat me a trail Burger.
Speaker 4: If it's motherfucking acuspade, this is hip hop, I know
Speaker 4: the owner, I know the person that invented it. Why
Speaker 4: would I ever? You don't drink any other champagne if
Speaker 4: I'm a champagne drinker. If it's deli on, if it's
Speaker 4: motherfucking what is that called?
Speaker 1: To killer?
Speaker 4: If it's to Killer, I ain't drinking nothing else but
Speaker 4: motherfucking delion.
Speaker 1: And that's a fact. And if it's Conyak, as long
Speaker 1: as Hove is involved, I ain't doing the And if
Speaker 1: it's hand nas c.
Speaker 4: P nas see, you know I'm drinking every last ship
Speaker 4: because if hip hop is involved, or.
Speaker 1: You forgot my Maauna, you gotta tell how much you
Speaker 1: like the water.
Speaker 4: Yes, even my Mauana is and created by hip hop
Speaker 4: in the top of kindle and bath water with people with.
Speaker 1: Seats stepping on it. I don't mind. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: personally drink it, but I'm gonna watch eat Fen drink it,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna support him as he does. Such if
Speaker 1: it's finger licking and it's about chicken, I'm a supported.
Speaker 1: I'm a supported. What else we got to hip hop?
Speaker 4: Come on, wingstop, I'm gonna support it, Bella, I'm gonna supported,
Speaker 4: Bamboo Bomboo.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna support it because John Day.
Speaker 6: Listen.
Speaker 4: Listen anything in hip hop, even Patty Lavelle Pies, even.
Speaker 1: Pancakes her breakfast. I'm supporting it. I'm doing it. This
Speaker 1: is what we do.
Speaker 4: And if you hip hop and you're not doing that,
Speaker 4: that's that's the problem with us is and especially this
Speaker 4: is why I'm I'm gonna just relate it to a
Speaker 4: bum Bee's Trio Burgers. If you have never had a
Speaker 4: tril Burger, it's one of the best burgers on the planet,
Speaker 4: if not the on the planet.
Speaker 1: So I'm not only telling you to.
Speaker 4: Support hip hop, but I'm telling you to support some
Speaker 4: real GENI wind quality ship. When I tell you to
Speaker 4: drink a spade, I'm not telling you to sport it
Speaker 4: just because this is the best champagne on the motherfucking
Speaker 4: planet to them, And.
Speaker 1: This is real talk.
Speaker 4: A lot of these products, most of these products that
Speaker 4: I name is the best ship on the motherfucking planet.
Speaker 4: And you know the owners or you know the co owners.
Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you support that? Oh, ain't Sam Rocky's whiskey,
Speaker 4: Boosy's Knyac his joint. Come on, bring limbs in, Mandy,
Speaker 4: I cannow kick you out. I'm sorry, Come on, bringing
Speaker 4: limbs in just suspect me pull.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yes.
Speaker 4: So so let me let me first off, congratulate you, bro.
Speaker 4: I've been to say that to you earlier. The first
Speaker 4: time I see uh Paul Rosenberg come back outside.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my god. And what's great about that is you
Speaker 1: know he's really really rich. He doesn't So if you can,
Speaker 1: if you want, let me get some of that. Let
Speaker 1: me get some of that. Today's a little while to day,
Speaker 1: like it is there more than that? So how does
Speaker 1: this how does this process happen? Who calls you? But
Speaker 1: he has a history he can tell you, but he
Speaker 1: has the history with the told you had stretched arm strong.
Speaker 10: And so look back in the days when I was
Speaker 10: battling during the fight club ship Riggs. I was fucking
Speaker 10: with Rigs Morales Yeah yeah, fast.
Speaker 5: To take me up to Shady every week, and was like, yo,
Speaker 5: them killing everybody with the battleship. We love your music,
Speaker 5: and Shade even want to start developing you as an artist.
Speaker 6: What the jail?
Speaker 5: And then I came home and I was back on
Speaker 5: my bullshit and they just stopped returning my polls.
Speaker 6: I was like, damn, that was my shot up?
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 6: This is like early two thousands. Yeah right when when
Speaker 6: when yeah fifty just came just went Diamond. I remember
Speaker 6: Riggs and the Diamond.
Speaker 4: You know, let me just say something I want to say.
Speaker 4: I apologize, right because let me just tell you something.
Speaker 4: Then Ben is booting for you, and I was like, man,
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, like I need it.
Speaker 1: I need ten years.
Speaker 4: And then Pete Rock Croke posted you the other day
Speaker 4: and then I looked and then I had to call
Speaker 4: it and I.
Speaker 1: Was like I did not know. Yes, I did not.
Speaker 11: Continue, and yo, I just I just put my head
Speaker 11: down and kept putting it hard work, saying like I
Speaker 11: stopped all the bullshit like I said before the Master Ship,
Speaker 11: I stopped drinking, I stopped doing drugs, and I just focused.
Speaker 6: On making this ship happen.
Speaker 5: And I started doing the album with Scram Jones during
Speaker 5: the pandemic and uh.
Speaker 10: You know Scram is and they called with Paul and
Speaker 10: Paul we played on the album and he was like, yo,
Speaker 10: all I see what you want to do.
Speaker 6: I funk with this album. The ship is fire and
Speaker 6: he was like, yo, give me a couple of months.
Speaker 1: I got you.
Speaker 6: And then he started Goliath.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: Goliath was management it was like, Yo, we stopped.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we gonna start the Regulabel and you know
Speaker 5: you're gonna be the first artist Goliath Virgil album.
Speaker 4: Deal because I was so happy when I read the article.
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there reading and I'm like, obviously I'm my
Speaker 4: old older I'm my older, older older nig So you know,
Speaker 4: sometimes I don't that much. Ain't over you, no, but
Speaker 4: you gotta realize why, Like I'm out of this world sometimes,
Speaker 4: Like I really looked at this, Like one day, I'm
Speaker 4: just sitting there talking to people that's randomly just talking
Speaker 4: and that dame in the country and I was like,
Speaker 4: I've been there, and I was like they didn't look
Speaker 4: like I've been there.
Speaker 1: I was like I've been there.
Speaker 4: So like that shit just makes me older because I
Speaker 4: actually around the world did all this ship, like you
Speaker 4: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So when I seen the.
Speaker 4: Posts and I've seen people saying, yo, he been doing
Speaker 4: it for years, and then today I'm seeing Rosenberg and
Speaker 4: Rosen was breaking it down and I was sitting like, damn,
Speaker 4: that's what's crazy about hip hop, Like I was saying
Speaker 4: at that sets, and like when I went to that
Speaker 4: Kit Cuddy, like I didn't know that there was a
Speaker 4: whole nother version of hip hop.
Speaker 1: I thought you could only be tough. I think you
Speaker 1: can only be.
Speaker 6: Like like like what they say alternative, yeah, alnative hips.
Speaker 5: So so.
Speaker 4: Just so you know, just to reiterate what I said earlier,
Speaker 4: I was like stuck in hip hop purgatory. Now hip
Speaker 4: hop purgatory it's real because it's.
Speaker 1: Either you get another hit or you you miss and
Speaker 1: it's done for you, and it's done for you, and
Speaker 1: then your legacy is done too, and your legacy is done.
Speaker 4: So you got to be like very careful. So I'm
Speaker 4: I'm sitting around with the money I got and I'm
Speaker 4: out on l A. An alchemist says to me, yo,
Speaker 4: I want to want to do your favor, And I
Speaker 4: was like, do me a favor.
Speaker 1: What did you want to do?
Speaker 4: He's like, I want you to come out with me
Speaker 4: tonight and I want you to go to this Kid
Speaker 4: Cuddy show. So I was like, I bet.
Speaker 1: And the minute I walked in this Kid Cutty show.
Speaker 4: They were like, you the god you fucking and I
Speaker 4: was like and they always they didn't say I was
Speaker 4: the guard because of me.
Speaker 1: They were saying, you put on for brow.
Speaker 4: The first time we see it, I was like, holy shit,
Speaker 4: and for real had created this whole nother sauce.
Speaker 1: In between him and Kanye. And I did not know
Speaker 1: like I was good in that neighborhood. I was just
Speaker 1: likely ship.
Speaker 4: So what is the time in the hip hop that
Speaker 4: you have discovered that there's five different hip hops?
Speaker 5: Right when I came out of jail, net Ro hit
Speaker 5: me up, Wow, Underground, under ground.
Speaker 6: So before he hit me up, I didn't know him
Speaker 6: from a hole in the wall. He seen me on
Speaker 6: like my Space son.
Speaker 5: I was like, y'all want to take me on toward
Speaker 5: me and sign my labor just off of like the
Speaker 5: songs he heard from me from seeing it the crap.
Speaker 5: Every show he had was packed. Every show a naked
Speaker 5: bitch came out. Every show off the off the audience
Speaker 5: would come out and get butt naked on sething like yo.
Speaker 5: He let me know that you don't have to have
Speaker 5: a show on the radio, be commercial, become a millionaire
Speaker 5: in this game, really do your thing. So once I
Speaker 5: seen that, I was like, I'm gonna keep going doing
Speaker 5: what the funk I do and it's gonna stick. Whether
Speaker 5: it's major or independent, it's just I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 5: do my own thing.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 6: Nobody else said, fu your life if you don't like it.
Speaker 3: I tell you what I think was important and what
Speaker 3: I saw when I just started seeing all your stuff.
Speaker 3: And this is what I think is dope about hip
Speaker 3: hop is authenticity will always win. You gotta trust it, though,
Speaker 3: because too much in this entertainment business, you don't want
Speaker 3: to be authentic.
Speaker 1: Chasing chasing. You want to get on hip hop.
Speaker 3: If you ahead, you always know authenticity is gonna win,
Speaker 3: and and it shines through like when you and I
Speaker 3: saw that and everything he was doing man.
Speaker 5: E FN manf I just met him today and when
Speaker 5: we when I met him and felt like we were,
Speaker 5: I'm sad.
Speaker 6: And he's just been showing wild love just started.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something about e f N. Since
Speaker 4: we all given each other flowers. He will not sell
Speaker 4: out at all.
Speaker 5: I sell the up, I'm selling out, let the check
Speaker 5: be back, I'm selling the fun.
Speaker 1: He liked the money, but he he does not like
Speaker 1: the integrity. He does not like.
Speaker 2: Is how you fucked up though. Yeah, he made it rich,
Speaker 2: but having to do it say he's never gonna do it.
Speaker 2: And by the way that we made each other.
Speaker 6: When at first it is like this first time, I
Speaker 6: was just always just a ship on this one.
Speaker 1: What is he doing sitting.
Speaker 4: Him back disperspect I'm gonna be honest. I you ain't
Speaker 4: hear it earlier, but let me just tell you something.
Speaker 4: Elliott is a goat when when it comes to journalism.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I'm not I'm saying he is a goal
Speaker 1: to his face. You know a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes a lot of people say your goat
Speaker 4: behind your back or whatever I would say to your face.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, you are a goat, and
Speaker 4: a lot of us was what was trail blazing, blazing.
Speaker 2: You know, Dream Chances, rap Radar, like the whole podcast,
Speaker 2: we bought the spirit of like that and raise the.
Speaker 1: Level of I definitely believe that.
Speaker 4: By the way, I don't want to take up with
Speaker 4: any other podcast everybody, respect.
Speaker 1: Because I don't. I don't mean that at all.
Speaker 4: But what I meant was in this climate, it was
Speaker 4: like it was like when Jah Rule and d m
Speaker 4: X was going at it. You know who benefited Death
Speaker 4: Jam and at the time, at the time it was
Speaker 4: like rap Radar and Drink Chaney.
Speaker 1: That was you know, at the time CBS. We were
Speaker 1: both sides of the CBS, so it was like, but
Speaker 1: we learned that and now what you're seeing now, what
Speaker 1: you even.
Speaker 4: When you see God bless and I don't mean this
Speaker 4: like that, but even when you see Gilly and Joe
Speaker 4: and them go at it and you see that ship
Speaker 4: is just raising the level because every time they do
Speaker 4: whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Is gonna go that one. I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you something that's real, Joe. Butden exists
Speaker 4: without me, and I was worth a game. Man that
Speaker 4: was worth a game exists without rap radar. Rap Radar
Speaker 4: exists without.
Speaker 1: No, no, no.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is we don't actually do the same thing.
Speaker 4: We don't do the same thing, like honestly, That's the
Speaker 4: reason why I wanted to prove that by having Tony Yo,
Speaker 4: because I've seen Tony Yo at.
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club. Get your Tony.
Speaker 2: That was the cover shoot in the club. Yes, they
Speaker 2: told me that magazine cover was the m J fifty.
Speaker 2: They told that was in the club shoot. The shoe
Speaker 2: pulled up, They're like, oh yes, yeah, yeah, that was
Speaker 2: in no covering.
Speaker 1: It was the same video. Shoot, I know, I know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, let me need to finish it.
Speaker 4: So I'm saying this in all actuality, we're not in competition.
Speaker 4: Like at the end of the day, I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest. I'm not saying this because Elliott
Speaker 4: is here and for artists coming there to have them
Speaker 4: review their music. There's no better person to go up
Speaker 4: to Elliott when it's about their music.
Speaker 1: Actually bought some some crazy and you get the yes.
Speaker 1: I know how it is to be an artist.
Speaker 6: Story behind the story.
Speaker 1: The story behind the story.
Speaker 10: I'm gonna take it out of him that he can't
Speaker 10: because he he's gonna take out of him that you can.
Speaker 1: Put a hardcourt interview.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to Elliott like for me, like when
Speaker 4: that's comes time to tell my story, I'm gonna go
Speaker 4: to go to Elliott because I understand that there is
Speaker 4: a difference we would do. And the offriend told me
Speaker 4: that a long time ago. He was like, stop sucking,
Speaker 4: saying you're a journalist, Like damn wow. He was saying,
Speaker 4: we're not journalists, bro. You guys as journalists. You guys
Speaker 4: are documenting. We're not fact checking. We're just trying to
Speaker 4: celebrate the guests culture. We're trying to have a party,
Speaker 4: have fun. We're trying to recreate what he was doing
Speaker 4: in the studio. We were doing backstage. He was drinking
Speaker 4: and that's all he was trying to do. Real conversations.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get that ship and you're gonna get some funny.
Speaker 4: Different the whole thing, right. So, and that's really really
Speaker 4: what it is. But man, now, how does it bill
Speaker 4: grinding all these years? I'm finally getting this nice finally getting.
Speaker 1: This deal now validation? Yeah, because is you moving out
Speaker 1: of coney Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, Okay, you know what's funny.
Speaker 6: I was Tembassi in Telfait of NBA Conel building. Right
Speaker 6: behind me.
Speaker 5: He was like, yo, if I could do it all over,
Speaker 5: I felt a big ass for it right in the hood.
Speaker 6: I was like, I'm in my mind outlide. I was
Speaker 6: like me and me you were and my mind.
Speaker 1: I was like, not me out of here.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, Yo, it's just I
Speaker 5: was tired of my whole family. When I'm over for christ, Yo,
Speaker 5: you you're still rapping you when you're gonna be on
Speaker 5: the radio when you comes too much.
Speaker 6: I ain't never gonna be on the radio. And now
Speaker 6: I got little kids in fucking Oklahoma yelling out, fuck
Speaker 6: your life, right.
Speaker 5: That ship is just validation. But to you, I wouldn't
Speaker 5: be the artist I was. I got everything I got,
Speaker 5: I got World Report.
Speaker 1: You know all Eve Melvin the Reunion.
Speaker 5: I know you're explained the cocker Spaniel line, all that
Speaker 5: this stick of broom and your butts, how you.
Speaker 1: Got hand boom, yeah boom. That's my favorite Noory line.
Speaker 6: Hey yo, hey yo.
Speaker 1: Yo said, he is the one of the only.
Speaker 6: Rappers that could say some ship like that and niggas
Speaker 6: still fuck.
Speaker 9: With That's.
Speaker 1: No no, I'm gonna be honest with you. You.
Speaker 4: One of my favorite artists was biz Marky. And when
Speaker 4: biz Markey said, I tick a booget in my put
Speaker 4: it on the basketball and he passed to you, I say,
Speaker 4: it was outrageous, you love, It was outrageous. So I
Speaker 4: knew I wasn't swarm enough to say. When I was twelve,
Speaker 4: I went to help us nothing. I knew I wasn't
Speaker 4: smart enough for that. So I was like, you know what,
Speaker 4: let me dumb my ship down and let me speak
Speaker 4: to the special education people that went to school with me.
Speaker 1: So because like I mean, I loved it. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't understand how many special education teachers called me
Speaker 1: after I won no award. We won no ward. When
Speaker 1: I said your soil is a special education I was
Speaker 1: in the resource room. Resource room teachers, special educations teachers
Speaker 1: was like, yo, can I use this case? I guess
Speaker 1: they don't have permission they think they So I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I just be I always wanted to do that,
Speaker 1: a special TV band, froom TV. I purposely wanted to
Speaker 1: go last. I mean, it was on your album and
Speaker 1: that yeah, yeah, you know what, You're right, it was.
Speaker 1: It was leaving that era though I was trying to
Speaker 1: hold on to that era. I was trying to hold
Speaker 1: onto that era.
Speaker 4: And I was like scared, like I'm and I said,
Speaker 4: because I said, Hennessy straight shot a tomato.
Speaker 1: Juice, but it couldn't fit it, puks, it couldn't.
Speaker 6: But he said that he looked at me dead.
Speaker 4: Hennessy straight shot out tomato juice, and then Hennessy straight
Speaker 4: shout out to me. So Hennessy straight with tomato juice
Speaker 4: fit fit more. And I knew people always would never
Speaker 4: understand sad me. But but same thing with Pharrell. When
Speaker 4: I did what what that was a hook?
Speaker 3: That was?
Speaker 4: That was never And then Pharrell said, you know and
Speaker 4: when I said I light a candle, run laps around
Speaker 4: and in this channel, that was I got a cock SPANU.
Speaker 4: Well at that time in Queens it was a gun.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so like the cock Spion was the twenty two,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? A rock Waller was a
Speaker 4: four Father was some dumb ship. I always wanted to
Speaker 4: shock value. I always wanted to do women people go
Speaker 4: ooh ooh, and I didn't care which way it was.
Speaker 1: And the more simplistic I made it. What I understood
Speaker 1: is all of the War.
Speaker 4: Report never got played at the club, and that hurt me.
Speaker 4: That hurt me the whole They got played in the hoods.
Speaker 4: But got to remember when I got on stage, that
Speaker 4: wasn't who I was t O n why and and
Speaker 4: why if I didn't actually jump the t o and
Speaker 4: why you went and jumped the teer?
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, think about it.
Speaker 1: It's mad Low just trying to ship on me and
Speaker 1: make history supposed but now if I home it this way,
Speaker 1: but actually I just think about the rhythm of it,
Speaker 1: and I realized I was like, Damn, this is great,
Speaker 1: but it's not who I am. I wanted to touch.
Speaker 4: And God, blessed God. I don't know if I'm asking
Speaker 4: you a question, but but then for real came in
Speaker 4: and I'm just being honest with you. Like me and
Speaker 4: him spoke the other day, but it was just like
Speaker 4: like we were really like Batman and Robbing Beauty and
Speaker 4: the Beast.
Speaker 1: Really, because.
Speaker 4: I'm definitely the Beast. I'm definitely the best. Yes, he
Speaker 4: actually knew, and I remember his words to me.
Speaker 1: Swear to God.
Speaker 4: Remember he's like, no one listens to me, but the
Speaker 4: person that does, it's going to go number one and
Speaker 4: they's gonna.
Speaker 1: Listen to me right to the bank. He asked him.
Speaker 1: The point they want to connect to his vision? Yet
Speaker 1: about it? Right? No one will. So many he was
Speaker 1: a ghost do something they didn't want it.
Speaker 2: Now he's a genius now, but like back then, yeah,
Speaker 2: because he looked different.
Speaker 1: Different, he looked different. Definitely got the best person. It
Speaker 1: was the first to kind of break him in that
Speaker 1: and that's why he loves forever. I love you, and
Speaker 1: you're crazy. Let me just tell you something. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. This a couple of times. I just cried. Recently,
Speaker 1: my man twin, his father just passed away. I went
Speaker 1: to the funeral. I cried there.
Speaker 4: But when I seen the Louis vuitar thing, and by
Speaker 4: the way, I just left Paris and I hit and
Speaker 4: was like, yo, stay, And I did not.
Speaker 1: Know why he was telling me to stay. I just
Speaker 1: went to the Mafy coast. I felt rich. I was like,
Speaker 1: let me get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 4: But had he said, yo, I'm this is my Louis
Speaker 4: vuitar because he, you know, for us, just so humble
Speaker 4: no matter how much he gets. He was like say,
Speaker 4: I want, I want to show you something. And I
Speaker 4: had I knew what he was talking about. Wow, because
Speaker 4: when I seen that, it wasn't that hole came out.
Speaker 4: It wasn't that time of the case. It was it
Speaker 4: was like, this is a guy that I actually see
Speaker 4: and his was fucking crazy about this.
Speaker 1: My wife is out here. You can ask her. You
Speaker 1: can ask your own.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 1: You like like my shorts. It's just like my don't
Speaker 1: you ever my shorts?
Speaker 6: Yo?
Speaker 4: But you know what the crazy ship was Me and
Speaker 4: my wife was doing off our tenth anniversary over. That's
Speaker 4: why that's Wheely twinth anniversary over. You know who was
Speaker 4: styling me Virgil, Wow, poor Louis Baton four Louis Bauton.
Speaker 1: So we went there and rich ship and you know,
Speaker 1: I just sech ship. It is like man, my man,
Speaker 1: Felix and that ship.
Speaker 4: What's crazy is like Virgil sitting to us to something like,
Speaker 4: you know, a remote spot for me to get fitted.
Speaker 1: I felt. I was so glad my wife was there
Speaker 1: because I felt crazy, how this ain't right? They waiting
Speaker 1: to police. I'm like, wait a minute. I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, cool, this is how this happens. I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, that's how you get your life.
Speaker 9: Illuminati definitely the Illumina. Hell yeah, I don't never disrespect
Speaker 9: sound like a look, you got a fat stand for that.
Speaker 4: But in the last time Virsion was supposed to and
Speaker 4: then for I say that to say it's weird because
Speaker 4: for for this to happen and then and then for
Speaker 4: real to actually you know.
Speaker 1: Take over, that's next level. Yeah, v shout for U
Speaker 1: and let me tell you something, skate ward P.
Speaker 4: He's so focused, like he immediately became designer, like you know, yeah,
Speaker 4: like like, like, you know.
Speaker 6: Like the president, they stopped, he got a couple of months.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like just went back then you know, he knew,
Speaker 4: he like he's been I don't know. By the way,
Speaker 4: I'm I'm spitballing this. When I spoke to him, he
Speaker 4: was like, you know, if you don't understand, but but
Speaker 4: what I'm saying is, in my opinion, this is a
Speaker 4: position that he's been waiting for his whole life, and
Speaker 4: he's going to kill his ship.
Speaker 1: Like, let me tell you something.
Speaker 4: I looked at all the designs. I looked at every
Speaker 4: last one of them, and I was like, this ship
Speaker 4: is ill. And I looked at I'm Virtues. I was
Speaker 4: at Virtue's last fashion show as well. It was fucking awesome.
Speaker 4: So I fucking love what Farrell was doing. Man for
Speaker 4: wherever you're.
Speaker 1: At, Man, Yes, yeah, about I like to dream, Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you I'll tell you that part later.
Speaker 1: But you know, yes, listen, I'm so.
Speaker 4: So proud of you for I'm so proud of your
Speaker 4: your wife, your children and what you're doing and the
Speaker 4: fact that I had a piece to do with the
Speaker 4: beginning of that.
Speaker 1: I'm so honored. I'm so you know please, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna continue to support it.
Speaker 4: And then you came out and he came out that
Speaker 4: the first fashion show with the component nor viego army fatigue,
Speaker 4: and I.
Speaker 1: Was just like, I know he probably I don't know,
Speaker 1: but that's how I took it. I took it last
Speaker 1: he came out the whole family.
Speaker 2: So we had on the podcast finally what was that like, like, you,
Speaker 2: you know what, how did you feel right before?
Speaker 1: And like talk to me about the whole ship. That's
Speaker 1: a great question. You know, it's crazy. This is the
Speaker 1: best ever. That's how you know you're big.
Speaker 6: Big people take a COVID test before they meet you.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think I'm not with logic.
Speaker 6: Like, yo, take this test first.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my god, so much blood. Show me that COVID test.
Speaker 1: This is a foul COVID test. This is a break Listen, listen.
Speaker 6: This is how they got your blood.
Speaker 1: This is the middle. He was but I was like,
Speaker 1: I finally got him. But we got this pandemic. Check
Speaker 1: it checks, we got a mask on.
Speaker 2: Let me.
Speaker 1: Let me explain, let me explain, let me play. So
Speaker 1: where am smack in the middle of COVID? But Miami
Speaker 1: opens back up yeah, yeah, over that up so close
Speaker 1: at least clocking respiratory. So so.
Speaker 4: Miami opens up, we do. I didn't even do college
Speaker 4: before that. And we had to walking flocking first walking
Speaker 4: we caught cod.
Speaker 1: Episode covid. We caught caught covid. I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: walk up.
Speaker 6: I'm not taking din't care.
Speaker 1: He was beer. Everyone who's drinking beer, drink ladders Champ at.
Speaker 6: That time anyway.
Speaker 4: Anyway, anyway, and then so then for this is why
Speaker 4: I respect for bro because me and he was just
Speaker 4: talking and he didn't want to like like go through
Speaker 4: me to do the interview, so he was going through
Speaker 4: his people's So I was like, are you sure he
Speaker 4: really coming? Like spoke to him yesterday, brung up nothing
Speaker 4: about drink chip. It was like three times I spoke
Speaker 4: to him. We didn't bring ubout drink Champs. And then
Speaker 4: we got a crew chat and I'm looking at like,
Speaker 4: I'm not sure, I'm not sure I speak to the
Speaker 4: right Foraral, But then it's mister Lee. He's on all
Speaker 4: the themes out all the clips. I I was talking
Speaker 4: about his son, the cocaine and ship. I mean that
Speaker 4: was back in the days.
Speaker 1: So anyway, the very last hit, and they said, Yo, listen,
Speaker 1: he's gonna do it, but he wants all of y'all
Speaker 1: to have a COVID test.
Speaker 4: So we're like, fuck it. We know these guys just
Speaker 4: got over their ship. My bad, all of your great cruise.
Speaker 4: So we're going back there. I'm talking about this blood.
Speaker 4: They gotta pick our ship. Then forrellh walks in and
Speaker 4: just like I'm ready to record. Yeah, by the way,
Speaker 4: I never caught Kobe.
Speaker 5: I caught that ship three times, and the second time
Speaker 5: I gave it to my Mom's that my girl for Christmas,
Speaker 5: so that it's right with Big Boss. First, I was like, yo,
Speaker 5: I caught it.
Speaker 1: I had mad bookings that week.
Speaker 5: I stayed the first time, I stayed in the second time,
Speaker 5: I was like, y'a, I'm not staying it.
Speaker 6: Everybody getting this brother.
Speaker 1: To my mom, you have to go to the hospital. Here.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, you caught Kobe was white? Yeah twice Dan, Yo,
Speaker 1: he got mad serious, but he said he didn't catch Kobe.
Speaker 1: He didn't test for that ship y'all at the flu
Speaker 1: By the way, let me just tell you test them
Speaker 1: than all three of y'all. I was feeling loving hand
Speaker 1: marriage move can. They had the hotel outside by the way. Listen, listen.
Speaker 1: The first day I go to marriage boot camp, they
Speaker 1: give me a bag.
Speaker 11: I like it.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 4: They tell me stay in. They also tell me Drake
Speaker 4: got a party. I looked at my wife.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not sure we're going out. I said,
Speaker 1: We're going to Drake's party. And we went. We went, and.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to be modest. You know, it's just me
Speaker 4: and my wife. I didn't go with no because I'm
Speaker 4: bid for America, so I.
Speaker 1: Don't have nobody. I got a driver outside. What's gonna
Speaker 1: be the driver of security?
Speaker 4: It's like, fuck it, I'd rather the driver because I
Speaker 4: can just I'm just jumping in the car. So I'm like,
Speaker 4: all right, cool. So I got to depend and then
Speaker 4: you know, Drake has the best security of the world.
Speaker 4: In case you don't know, like real like, nobody's doing
Speaker 4: nothing that Drake. I'm just telling y'all just leave him.
Speaker 1: Anne, because do you ever just drinking trying to approach him. Listen.
Speaker 1: So anyway, so I'm sitting there and the chop see me.
Speaker 6: He goes, yo, what are you doing?
Speaker 4: Because I'm just sitting there because I'm sitting there with
Speaker 4: me and my wife. But I was sitting there be
Speaker 4: the most moderns person. He's like, what the fuck, legend,
Speaker 4: what are you doing?
Speaker 1: And I'm like most some chumps. He's like, come on,
Speaker 1: you not see the boy.
Speaker 4: And I went over there and I see Drake and
Speaker 4: we just take shots immediately, and I was like, oh ship,
Speaker 4: he's kind of doing drink champs right now. He's making
Speaker 4: noise doing all this. And then we take a picture
Speaker 4: and it was so dope. But what I'm saying is
Speaker 4: I don't even know when I put that up, but
Speaker 4: fuck it, d Kobe. So I'm not trying to post
Speaker 4: a picture. My wife posters picture. They don't follow my
Speaker 4: wife at the time. And then Drake we posted. I
Speaker 4: was supposed to get fired that day. I broke curfew
Speaker 4: and you have to get the bag back.
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't have get in the bag man. They
Speaker 1: had to suit me.
Speaker 4: But luckily we came home to the COVID test. We
Speaker 4: took the COVID test that morning. Negative, the same negative.
Speaker 4: So I say, I took a COVID test Monday, Wednesday
Speaker 4: and Friday for two and a half years to two
Speaker 4: and a half years bro. Like, so after I left
Speaker 4: marriage Boutcamps, I came home and I did what happened.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a bitsins Okay, yeah I did marriage butcamp,
Speaker 1: I came home and I did love and hip hop
Speaker 1: for another year and a half.
Speaker 6: Did Loving hip Hop?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did it.
Speaker 4: That's season and a half. Yeah, and it might be back.
Speaker 4: I ain't got no drama, that's yeah.
Speaker 6: I always look at them shows.
Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, if I was on them shows, that
Speaker 5: wouldn't be no drama. Like, I don't want to show
Speaker 5: that side. Even if there's drama, you won't see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, straight up, I mean say the truth? Uh yeah.
Speaker 2: How do you prose that ship? How do what the
Speaker 2: whole reality? How do you approach that ship? How I
Speaker 2: approach I never approached it.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm with it, Like what it was was.
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of marriage boot Camp and you've never
Speaker 1: seen it. And if you married the judge, yeah, like yo,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be sore els did it? Did it?
Speaker 4: That's the reason why ghost And by the way, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be honest with you, you know me and working
Speaker 4: together for so long, like I actually actually listen to
Speaker 4: the therapy that that I got, like I actually was
Speaker 4: sitting there like you know not because like if if
Speaker 4: it's a chance that I could my wife can't hear,
Speaker 4: I can't hear.
Speaker 1: This is a case.
Speaker 4: Uh, if it's a chance, you know, I don't want
Speaker 4: you to like, but if it's a chance that I
Speaker 4: could love my wife, Mare, I take that chance to
Speaker 4: learn how to love my wife Mare.
Speaker 1: Because she saved me, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: she saved me. Like when when I'm talking about being.
Speaker 4: In hip hop purgatory, that's who was holding me down
Speaker 4: and just and it's by the.
Speaker 1: Way, hip hop purgatory don't mean you broke. It just
Speaker 1: means you don't don't know the next move. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I'm saying because everybody judge you that when everyone judge, yes,
Speaker 4: everyone's saying because you gotta realize you. People will say
Speaker 4: he can't do it no more or it's old for him,
Speaker 4: and you can have all the money in the world,
Speaker 4: but that doubt fucks you up.
Speaker 1: I'm not and I give you.
Speaker 2: All the opposite. They think you lit but you have
Speaker 2: your own struggles. Now, yes that's true. Everybody look at
Speaker 2: you like you rich Rich Richard, don't out the window
Speaker 2: and you're like, yo, dog, I'm trying to restructure my
Speaker 2: whole ship.
Speaker 5: That's why dudes like Fat Joe, dudes like Buster take notes,
Speaker 5: like younger artists from artists like this, Norri.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, you gotta take you know what's.
Speaker 2: Wild, like judging your edgy earlier like you seem like
Speaker 2: you're like you know, you have a heavy spirit of
Speaker 2: like your live wire.
Speaker 1: Wall Joe.
Speaker 2: But they're always that too, like the ones who survived.
Speaker 1: Are like that.
Speaker 6: Listen when you don't and.
Speaker 1: That excel.
Speaker 6: I tell my story that I use drugs. I did
Speaker 6: all this. You know why, because when you put it
Speaker 6: out there, nobody can use it against you.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, I'm gonna be me whether
Speaker 5: you like me or not. If you don't like me,
Speaker 5: show be it. But you can't hold nothing that character
Speaker 5: it was. You canna put me in any hood anywhere.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying, I'm gonna be good because genuine I'm
Speaker 5: not faking to be somebody I'm not.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I'm not the toughest, I'm not,
Speaker 6: but I'm I'm a regular human being. You know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying that you know, and being from New York.
Speaker 5: Especially Cony Allen and everybody of this Chinese, Black, Puerto Rican,
Speaker 5: we all like one.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like nolorid be saying, hip
Speaker 6: hop is like one.
Speaker 1: How did you start the whole? Though? I ever disrespect me?
Speaker 5: My album, I don't know my last album and twenty
Speaker 5: twenty one before being long and none of that was
Speaker 5: taken off, was coming out and I was putting it
Speaker 5: out myself, and I was like, I ain't got nobody
Speaker 5: to help me market this, to promote this.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna get the word out.
Speaker 5: So a week before I just started everybody in my
Speaker 5: block this man, crazy people that walked by my block.
Speaker 6: It's like the top of Cone wherever.
Speaker 5: You're going past my flock and Conye is one way in,
Speaker 5: one way out, so I believe it pass my block too.
Speaker 6: So I just started my phone and being like, YO,
Speaker 6: don't have a.
Speaker 5: Disrespect me, looking like the Mario Brothers. My album coming
Speaker 5: out with seven days, and then after it with six days,
Speaker 5: then I did it with five days, pray and two
Speaker 5: and then by the time it was time for my
Speaker 5: album to come out people.
Speaker 6: It was like, yo, we kind of don't want your
Speaker 6: album to come out, man, because you keep some of
Speaker 6: these videos.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: It came out of necessity, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: This came out of the hustle.
Speaker 1: No reactions. Anybody ever did that.
Speaker 6: Only one A little a little alternative, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, A little alternative guy. And I ain't even
Speaker 6: go hard on them.
Speaker 1: No, don't disrespect me.
Speaker 6: Looking like a mini Mobs. He had his hand back.
Speaker 1: He came up to me with his hand on my phone.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I was like, yo, ho, I snacked.
Speaker 5: The ship out what I'm saying that joking ship and
Speaker 5: real quick turn he did me like one of those
Speaker 5: living color like hated it, like one of those get
Speaker 5: out of here, and he just kept him moving. That
Speaker 5: was the only time ever ever somebody came out ship
Speaker 5: because most of the time I'm not doing it to
Speaker 5: be a dick. I'm laughing while I'm doing it. Look
Speaker 5: I'm six four three pounds, Like, if you really want to.
Speaker 6: Go that round, figure, go that round.
Speaker 1: But I love it what they catch it. They laugh
Speaker 1: at it too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what everybody does.
Speaker 4: Like I love you saying my apartment for cutting off.
Speaker 4: But I love what you said earlier. You said that
Speaker 4: if I joke on you, it's kind of a sign
Speaker 4: of love. Fact, going to joke on a person that
Speaker 4: I don't know exactly, I'm gonna joke on the person
Speaker 4: where I think that it could go there exactly.
Speaker 1: So you ain't competing somebody you don't respect. I'm joke
Speaker 1: on you.
Speaker 5: If I don't like you, I'm gonna just leave you
Speaker 5: over there. Man, Like that ship is like a term
Speaker 5: just like fu your life. When I s thought it
Speaker 5: was like really like everybody's life, but.
Speaker 1: Now it's just like a your life. People laugh at
Speaker 1: the ship.
Speaker 6: I'm saying, it's just like, you know, you just changing
Speaker 6: the dynamics of it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So.
Speaker 2: What what so?
Speaker 1: This is your first major label? Me?
Speaker 4: Me and this guy, we we battle all the time
Speaker 4: and we say major or independent. He's always independent, I'm
Speaker 4: always major. But then we all both have you both
Speaker 4: have a twist to it, which means I say independent
Speaker 4: with a major distribute ship and then he says pretty
Speaker 4: much the same.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, If.
Speaker 1: You can function as an independent, you take advantage of.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm trying to do.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so yeah, So basically it's like this because
Speaker 5: now just I'm starting to see how the majors move independent.
Speaker 6: You can move how the fuck you want.
Speaker 5: If I want to put something out tomorrow, out tomorrow,
Speaker 5: the major labels, man, they hold.
Speaker 6: You up a little structure. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Now, with all the features on now, if y'all have
Speaker 5: them sign this, I'm like, yo, homie, I'm not even
Speaker 5: the coolest with these people.
Speaker 1: They out of love.
Speaker 6: I'm not going back to them this contract. But you yeah,
Speaker 6: you go do motherfucker give it to scam Let's scraam go.
Speaker 5: But yeah, you know it's it's just like I always
Speaker 5: sat from the beginning of my career. I'll sign a
Speaker 5: one album deal and get shirked because I know I'm
Speaker 5: gonna make that ship work a million times after that
Speaker 5: ship is over.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, I'm gonna make my money.
Speaker 6: One thing about me, I'm gonna make.
Speaker 3: It no matter what.
Speaker 6: I know it in my heart of hearts, I know
Speaker 6: that no matter what I do, I believe I'm gonna
Speaker 6: be successful. Because that's yeah, I gotta do.
Speaker 1: Let me stop you right there, though.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something because I'm part of that
Speaker 4: same generation of saying, yo, even I take that deal,
Speaker 4: even if you jerk me, and let me just tell
Speaker 4: you something. What it is is I just stopping in
Speaker 4: my generation, so it's trickling down to your generation, is
Speaker 4: triggering down to the next generation, tricking down the next generation.
Speaker 1: We gotta stop saying that.
Speaker 6: No I said it, get a decent one.
Speaker 1: Yah. I didn't get joke.
Speaker 5: I didn't, But I'm just saying that I'm gonna make
Speaker 5: it work because I know myself.
Speaker 6: But I did not get RK.
Speaker 5: You know, Rosenberg came to me and I already had
Speaker 5: traction well like already before any of this, before any music.
Speaker 6: I still ain't get no music money yet. The check
Speaker 6: still ain't coming well because you.
Speaker 1: Know, we just kind of.
Speaker 6: About money.
Speaker 1: All of that comes well.
Speaker 6: I'm saying, the actual label money hasn't come in. I
Speaker 6: already bought my mother house already six change, I read,
Speaker 6: got three rolls already whatever, But was like, sonna make
Speaker 6: some to me. It's like you gotta do it on
Speaker 6: my terms.
Speaker 1: Or funk your life.
Speaker 3: Like that?
Speaker 1: Why would you save your life? And here's different than
Speaker 1: everybody saying your life because I mean it, mother stomach again. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you're not drinking. I just I do.
Speaker 6: I haven't drink thirteen years. If I if I don't
Speaker 6: choose love drinking, that's how I know I'm not gonna choose.
Speaker 1: Away. Yeah. We're gonna get some douce safe for this.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you guys.
Speaker 6: I'm new with a new one big artist, so I'm
Speaker 6: not on that political.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, Elliott, We're gonna start with you. Yeah, poems do.
Speaker 4: We're gonna open up us.
Speaker 1: Get don't get. But this is a shot that is
Speaker 1: play bro. You're going in. You know what this chance? Before?
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, you had me so turned up.
Speaker 2: I was like yo, snicker Nord didn't take a piece
Speaker 2: of me at the end, like funk this nigga he
Speaker 2: is sitting with But he did.
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that's how that's how fried. I
Speaker 1: was so all right. So let me ask you, Elliott,
Speaker 1: the Sauce magazine or XXL the Sauce what the source
Speaker 1: or x Excel excel they know already know all the
Speaker 1: rules is all that was doesn't know if you picked both,
Speaker 1: you took a shot Okay, you asked me if my
Speaker 1: ship is not better than them niggas, like you asked
Speaker 1: me that that was a crazy question.
Speaker 2: That was that was easy easy, I'm saying, Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: always by all right XXL the source.
Speaker 1: Yeah, excel nigga talk to me.
Speaker 5: But you ever just respect me with these Alchemists A Scram,
Speaker 5: well Scream, I'm doing the album with him.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I go al cll Okay, you're going by the catalog
Speaker 5: ALC in my book, but Scram because that's my both
Speaker 5: great people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, way, I love Scram and I love Alchemists too.
Speaker 1: I got one for him.
Speaker 6: Got We'll go ahead, BRONI with a game with Joe
Speaker 6: Budd but.
Speaker 1: Joe button Mouse Okay, okay, I got good shot. Give
Speaker 1: me wild though, but no disrespect. But reports which one way?
Speaker 1: Or report inflight and wall.
Speaker 6: Reports my ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'm infamous, but war reports to classes.
Speaker 4: Hell no, no, I ain't gonna lie without the infamous,
Speaker 4: there would be no worri report for y'all made the
Speaker 4: right decision?
Speaker 1: Would that be the right ding? Like play that ship
Speaker 1: like that?
Speaker 4: I said this, I don't know if you don't understand
Speaker 4: like Alchemists did five beats on the War Report, he
Speaker 4: did my favorite beat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Alchemists happened. I told y'all going on because
Speaker 1: this reason why. So we know, like the whole scene
Speaker 1: in my era, like ceing that my comparisons. Yeah, with
Speaker 1: all that going on. So having just showed a lot
Speaker 1: of love to support you all with the beats.
Speaker 4: Like all tragedy, all tragedy. God blessed me with tragedy,
Speaker 4: you know, help help have it going or whatever.
Speaker 2: And but think about that, like you're competing with like
Speaker 2: the Queen's Niggas. That's a group in real time with
Speaker 2: havoc when of the Ill Niggas shook ones.
Speaker 1: Breastless.
Speaker 5: In my opinion, there's no three albums in a row
Speaker 5: from Tony. Artists can touch infamous hell on Nerve and
Speaker 5: murder music.
Speaker 12: They you can't the three in a row. You surprised
Speaker 12: didn't have to only when that comes to this is illmatic.
Speaker 1: It was raining and I am.
Speaker 6: But to me, that's still not working with them and
Speaker 6: and that's.
Speaker 5: Still Queen's Bridge, the best of my generation. Nobody touching
Speaker 5: those three. Nobody else got three albums in the road.
Speaker 5: That's touching those three. You know what you're trying to
Speaker 5: think because you can't come.
Speaker 1: Up showing me. I do say, yeah, come on, come on,
Speaker 1: you know what are you talking about? Nigga? Come on,
Speaker 1: come on, come on. So things make me questioning me?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: My bad, I'm bad. I'm bad. Hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: he drinks some more.
Speaker 2: He might.
Speaker 6: Never disrespect me. Looking like flame is by Son.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I'll stay home, right, I'll stay on everything. I'm I mean,
Speaker 1: I love it. Take a shout of a shot, shout.
Speaker 1: I know what I'm drinking. He shout drinking. Yeah, I'm drink.
Speaker 1: I've been drinking, been drinking this whole time. I'm a
Speaker 1: sot ber alcoholic.
Speaker 13: I gotta go to work any damncause I love it
Speaker 13: all right, So let me just about this story over.
Speaker 13: Let's walkout l A l a chance.
Speaker 6: School out.
Speaker 1: He's freshest dude if he plays me New York now yo,
Speaker 1: right dog pound boom? I mean from I'm like, He's like, yo,
Speaker 1: you think they this in US?
Speaker 6: And I'm like that was the days when they didn't
Speaker 6: come direct. They said some slick ship on the side,
Speaker 6: but that one was New York.
Speaker 1: Bill be So the video that was stupid and the
Speaker 1: thing that's when the intro, Yes, just what else? We
Speaker 1: just walked the only question you asked me. Who's next?
Speaker 6: Hammer walks in the room?
Speaker 1: No, so good one.
Speaker 6: So anyway, we go to queens Bridge.
Speaker 4: We go to queens Bridge, they pick us up whoever
Speaker 4: it was, and then we go to stretched Armstrong house
Speaker 4: see and habit by the way, they on fire. I
Speaker 4: don't think they like when we go to Queensbridg's, they
Speaker 4: got like five hundred people around. I'm like, these niggas
Speaker 4: is never gonna come. They're never gonna go to the studio.
Speaker 4: And it's E and J that's popping at the time.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember that.
Speaker 6: Yes, the end of my alcoholic career, he said every time.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and they're like, let's go to the studios.
Speaker 1: We go to the studio. No, one can't think of nothing.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say like I was a genius
Speaker 4: behind it, but you will, Okay, maybe when I said
Speaker 4: I just suggested it.
Speaker 1: I said, yo, listen, can you pull up the dog
Speaker 1: Pound new album? Because of your BOYE. So shout out
Speaker 1: to your boy Cha. I always say this and say this.
Speaker 1: He's still smoking dust chat kicked all that's good. You
Speaker 1: gonna actually Brooklyn. This was crazy. He's from Brooklyn that
Speaker 1: lived in my.
Speaker 4: And when we played it, everybody was like, yo, we
Speaker 4: can't tell them they this in us. So they said,
Speaker 4: why don't we just respond.
Speaker 6: And not this thing?
Speaker 1: So I don't know if anybody's you know, because is
Speaker 1: not like them.
Speaker 4: So if you understand, the only bars that was kind
Speaker 4: of dissing was prodigies bars. They said, JFK on our
Speaker 4: way to lay So when the record.
Speaker 1: Actually I want to pause you for a second for
Speaker 1: on purpose please. You said at one point that you
Speaker 1: spoke too big, right, yeah, I'm getting to that. So
Speaker 1: this is this doesn't happen yet. No, this hasn't happened. Yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 4: I remember it was like NYC, you are not very
Speaker 4: supremacy havoc in pete queens niggas. So it seemed to
Speaker 4: be we got worked back from no Riega and then
Speaker 4: he was like, he was like, uh, JFK on our
Speaker 4: way to l A And he actually used that same verson.
Speaker 1: He actually used that same verse on.
Speaker 6: Some ship not a way to send the ball break.
Speaker 1: But but if that original verses on l A l A, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if you.
Speaker 4: Think about it, it did sound like he was going
Speaker 4: at l A and everyone else.
Speaker 1: So it dropped. And when it dropped, no no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: hit him up. Ain't dropped yet. And it's for the
Speaker 1: mixtape that Chill.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah please, it's my first time. I'm gonna say,
Speaker 4: let me, let me go, let me go. We laid
Speaker 4: all five verses because remember it's.
Speaker 1: Maths, a long long and trash.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Percy, we we put it on the on the mixtape.
Speaker 4: I see Big at the Tunnel. I didn't know Big
Speaker 4: New I was.
Speaker 2: Whatever Big was this first time right after this or
Speaker 2: why but right nine seven not seven right after?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So for some reason Big New no Big was
Speaker 4: because remember I said this on Drinks Champson as well,
Speaker 4: Kapone rhyme for Big and Big Ones decided, yeah, he
Speaker 4: tied me because.
Speaker 1: I didn't rhun. I was too nervous. I don't like,
Speaker 1: oh shit is over me, just going to Brooklyn's over over.
Speaker 4: But anyway, mixing me in the Tunnel and it's like, yo,
Speaker 4: I just want you to know I'm not using that
Speaker 4: record on a bad Boy mixtape.
Speaker 1: So the time I'm eighteen nineteen, maybe twenty years old.
Speaker 1: I'm looking like, Wow, these niggas.
Speaker 4: Just disrespected you, like and I was like, I feel
Speaker 4: like we was representing for you. He was like he
Speaker 4: said something that I didn't realize till I was forty
Speaker 4: or maybe what I was. He was like, sometimes when
Speaker 4: you don't do something to someone, you don't have to
Speaker 4: respond to them to a lie.
Speaker 1: And now I've realized that, But back then, I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we're from New York.
Speaker 6: We can't just let this happen.
Speaker 1: So Stretch called us and was like, yo, Daddy. All
Speaker 1: of them told us you can't use this. They're not
Speaker 1: going to use it. They're not going to use it.
Speaker 1: So what do y'all want to do?
Speaker 4: And I can't say it was me. I can say
Speaker 4: I had a part of this, and I was like,
Speaker 4: I think we should still drop it and trash I
Speaker 4: said it. But but but by the way, let me
Speaker 4: give tragic props. I mean, not erased him out of history.
Speaker 1: I mean, let me make sure he's stamped in history history.
Speaker 1: He was like, I got this.
Speaker 4: So he was like, yo, Stretch, would you put up some?
Speaker 4: Stretch put up some and we white labeled it. So
Speaker 4: the reason why was once it took off. We couldn't
Speaker 4: clear the sample. So that's the reason why.
Speaker 1: That's the reason.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, you're rushing it, Okay, I mean e mentionally,
Speaker 4: So the reason why it took off and we won
Speaker 4: Battle of the Beats.
Speaker 1: In case people was the biggest ship in the day.
Speaker 1: If you win Battle on the Beats, you're on your way.
Speaker 1: It's like being So we won Battle on the Beats?
Speaker 1: How many nights every night?
Speaker 6: Five five nights every day?
Speaker 1: New York wanted us to represent New York wanted the
Speaker 1: record to represent.
Speaker 4: It was against hit him up. And by the way,
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just saying this was it wasn't get
Speaker 4: hit him up, hit him it was crazy.
Speaker 1: This is a response. So what happens is this is
Speaker 1: a real story. I was totally before them.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say it here, right is he acces for
Speaker 4: his verse to be taken off, says yo after Battle
Speaker 4: of the Beats. No, just before a battle. Okay, So
Speaker 4: he says, Yo, you know, I feel like I was
Speaker 4: the only one that kind of went too hard.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's not that's not nah. No. At the time,
Speaker 1: I'm be honest, you're talking to twenty one year old
Speaker 1: twenty four year old people. Yeah, we all was about
Speaker 1: it and they're about to go to the mattresses.
Speaker 6: And he don't want to all.
Speaker 1: His life like that. So I was I was read
Speaker 1: than your hat. I was reading and I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, cool.
Speaker 4: So then we chilled. So then it comes down to
Speaker 4: do the video. This is why Havoc has to be praised.
Speaker 4: Havoc still came to the video.
Speaker 1: Wow. But guess what happened the night before that video.
Speaker 6: I hit him Wow.
Speaker 4: He wanted to be a part of that. Yeah, reiterated
Speaker 4: this set. I'm coming to that video because he wasn't
Speaker 4: suposed to go to the video. And remember he wrote it,
Speaker 4: that's the first time you see the mac TINJ. You
Speaker 4: want to couldn't shange because because that was the first time,
Speaker 4: like you saw, yeah, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 4: he had stayed with that verse. I mean, I loved,
Speaker 4: I want. I will always honor his memory. But that
Speaker 4: moment was like a staggerant in our in our whole
Speaker 4: ship because it's sent a sense of separation.
Speaker 1: And I understood. I wish we had the internet back
Speaker 1: then because we were to understood that Park didn't give
Speaker 1: a fuck. So then when it hit him up came out.
Speaker 4: He was like, that's the reason why because Park got
Speaker 4: the version with when we stood out and I said, mark.
Speaker 1: By, I know that's the way the record though. That's
Speaker 1: what I was trying to say. We couldn't clear it.
Speaker 1: I couldn't clear it. So when we couldn't clear it tragedy.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think this was him said.
Speaker 6: He'll put that on all.
Speaker 1: King actually co signed this, Steve because the record was
Speaker 1: blowing up so much.
Speaker 6: Take it said.
Speaker 1: It's still like this to this day.
Speaker 4: So so so I say that to say that was
Speaker 4: a great time in hip hop. It was a great
Speaker 4: proud to be from New York. Yes, I ain't gonna
Speaker 4: lie to you.
Speaker 1: It wasn't nobody hold y'all. And and that was had
Speaker 1: a response record to he didn't. He did this in
Speaker 1: Big too, though, Oh I didn't. I forgot that. Yeah
Speaker 1: world His record called world wide, Yeah you.
Speaker 6: Sa worldwide in the beginning of the world Wide. It
Speaker 6: seems like he.
Speaker 1: Told the big trigger snap when he was damn, I
Speaker 1: forgot that. I sing with that is another one that yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what he's on to.
Speaker 3: Know.
Speaker 1: What a shame, but easy people man, it's hard. I
Speaker 1: did a video for that too. Yeah, I know. I
Speaker 1: was not both him down. Yeah, but I love it.
Speaker 1: It's Cuban connections. Yeah, I said whatever. I'll take anything
Speaker 1: Cuban right now, by the way, you know, or his
Speaker 1: Cuban I know, yeah, he is Cuban. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's half a whole.
Speaker 5: But you gotta watch motherfuckers like that or THEO because
Speaker 5: you're going to the store, you're talking about them.
Speaker 6: They know everything. My man is Panamania. But look straight
Speaker 6: black to the Wow, you gotta right back to the Spanish. Oh, y'all,
Speaker 6: niggas got caught.
Speaker 1: But guys, let me see is this that thank you
Speaker 1: for coming? Say? Artist louds rolling loud? Did you guys
Speaker 1: catch the show? I'm about to go. I gotta do
Speaker 1: some Okay, what the heck?
Speaker 6: Disuspect?
Speaker 1: What this fast? College? Hey, but we gotta tell them both, y'all.
Speaker 1: We need y'all.
Speaker 6: Privilege just to be in your company.
Speaker 1: Man now, y'all, Yeah, Elliott.
Speaker 4: Once again, we're gonna say. We're gonna started with saying,
Speaker 4: but let me just we're gonna start listen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he loves what he's holding his leg hold on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, we're gonna started by saying years ago and
Speaker 4: guess what, by boss Golly, we're gonna get it by saying,
Speaker 4: you the go. That's and all of us in journalism.
Speaker 4: I feel like you don't have to compete with us.
Speaker 1: We're not journalism. Bro Jordan, Michael.
Speaker 4: Jordan doesn't want to play born with Howld Minor, and
Speaker 4: he just he also doesn't want to play boy with
Speaker 4: Lebron or Kobe neither. He just understands who he is.
Speaker 4: And we hopefully did you understand that you the go.
Speaker 4: You don't have to compete with none of us. You
Speaker 4: don't have to like God, bless that Rob Moss is
Speaker 4: one of.
Speaker 1: My closest legends. Nobody so to go talk, but yes, Yo,
Speaker 1: shout up. You got to relax, mister, Okay, right right now,
Speaker 1: bro the door and start talking.
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