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Speaker 3: How you feeling. You're good, man? Yeah, I'm straight. Everything
Speaker 3: good for sure. For sure.
Speaker 1: Man, there's a lot of real interesting shit going on
Speaker 1: in that list. Don't have a few of the rapper
Speaker 1: only's upset dog.
Speaker 3: They ain't nobody, you know. I haven't heard any comments.
Speaker 3: I've seen a few comments.
Speaker 1: But you know, the funniest thing is when they get
Speaker 1: mad and because they missed their name on the list,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well you on that, bro, you don't
Speaker 1: see it. You're right down at number twenty six, twenty seven.
Speaker 3: They said, both of y'all fucked up for y'all crazy
Speaker 3: is his hell? Y'all ain't got no Siebo, y'all crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's one of the He's one of the greats,
Speaker 1: that's for sure.
Speaker 3: Like that, what I you? The bowl is a gangster?
Speaker 3: How How how come Sebo he had no album on
Speaker 3: the list?
Speaker 1: Hey man, Siebo? For me, Sebull came in like rong,
Speaker 1: number fifty three, fifty four. He was close with it.
Speaker 1: But you gotta understand something. If you put Sebull in here,
Speaker 1: if you bump somebody out and put him in, then
Speaker 1: you have another person. But why you didn't have him?
Speaker 1: You can't everybody can't be in the top fifty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think people's opinion of when you say
Speaker 3: and gangster rap, how can you not consider Cio he
Speaker 3: is he is the most West Coast gangster gangster gangster?
Speaker 3: You know, how can you now seboll do great work?
Speaker 3: But you know what I got for all of can
Speaker 3: you have somebody like the Loonies or mob deep over
Speaker 3: somebody who represents CRIPTI as far as a gangster?
Speaker 1: So because every nigga is a Cripinogos had the album
Speaker 1: and the talk for.
Speaker 3: Because well that's because people are saying, y'all are calling
Speaker 3: it gangster rap. Well, who's who's gangster? So you're saying
Speaker 3: a nigga in New York is gangster more than a
Speaker 3: nigga claiming a crypt set in Sacramento. Well, you know
Speaker 3: the thing is, And I'm just saying because this is
Speaker 3: what this is what the the questions that are being
Speaker 3: presented as far as you know, because niggas just they
Speaker 3: have their opinions about what's a gangster rap album?
Speaker 1: And I have a solution for all them people out there.
Speaker 1: I got this, I got I got no. I a't
Speaker 1: gonna get a nigga a solution for all of them.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna get niggave because that's what it is,
Speaker 1: just an opinion, right right, Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you the secret to all this, big dog and this
Speaker 1: this is Solt Everything gone, Victual Pin. Pick up a
Speaker 1: piece of paper and you can write your own list
Speaker 1: and you can have wherever you want to in there.
Speaker 3: But as a normal citizen and a motherfucker who don't
Speaker 3: have a billion download platform podcast has, they're gangster chronic
Speaker 3: like Sawing Baker who's been on all kind of you know, platforms,
Speaker 3: and you know, got a book out about rap and
Speaker 3: all of that. I'm just a regular truck driving nigga
Speaker 3: who go to work from nine to five. I'm not
Speaker 3: making no gangster. You the expert. How can you not
Speaker 3: have ce Ball?
Speaker 1: I feel like you know what, man, And don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, A lot of thought went into this shit though.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm gonna get I'm gonna get on you too.
Speaker 3: So and because a lot of the others had to
Speaker 3: be on about how can you not have dog pound mother.
Speaker 1: Fuckers when you know what, And that's but I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read my list first of all, right now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read the list.
Speaker 4: Well as far as dog Pound Dazz is like nigga,
Speaker 4: I'm gangster rap, well, dad, and you have a lists
Speaker 4: is on the chronic and as on Darkys now not
Speaker 4: as all here, I'm the dog Pound Dazz Dillager is
Speaker 4: gangster Long Beach, twenty first Street cripping.
Speaker 3: Again, these are what people look at as y'all niggas
Speaker 3: talking about where does gangster come from? Right right? Because
Speaker 3: that's their opinion. Like I said, we got gangster shit
Speaker 3: that I felt like. I listened to gangster records from
Speaker 3: here to New York. In my opinion, ghetto boys gripping
Speaker 3: on another level. That was gangster to me. Absolutely Home
Speaker 3: three two the convicts, that was gangster shit to me.
Speaker 3: But you know how some people feel like, you know
Speaker 3: we from right now?
Speaker 1: I got you.
Speaker 3: We're from the West Coast. We from Compton, Lone Beach,
Speaker 3: Watts South Central. Fuck it. Even if you want to
Speaker 3: go up to the Bay Area in Oakland and Sacramento,
Speaker 3: you know we are the epitome of gangsters, cripping blood
Speaker 3: and you know, on wax, banging on wax. So how
Speaker 3: you know that's the opinions again of some other cats
Speaker 3: who feel like but the niggas from the beach, me from.
Speaker 1: The East Siders are on my list.
Speaker 3: East Side they was twenty first Street, you know, insane
Speaker 3: rolling twenties, like, how can they not be in your
Speaker 3: consideration of the fifty top gangster rap right?
Speaker 1: So, I don't know if we give more gangs in this.
Speaker 1: This is the top ten number one Snoop dog doggy
Speaker 1: Style two ice Cube Death Certificate, three Doctor Dreda Chronic
Speaker 1: four Easy Easy does It? Five n w A Niggas
Speaker 1: for Life, six Ghetto Boys, We Can't be Stopped? Seven
Speaker 1: fifty get Richard Datrum which was a gangster them Hey
Speaker 1: Docthor Dreda Chronic two thousand and one, nine ice Cube
Speaker 1: America's most teena scarface to Fix eleven n W three
Speaker 1: out of Compton MC eight we come Strapped, Ice t
Speaker 1: Ryan pays fourteen bone Thugs Harmony East nineteen ninety nine
Speaker 1: Eternal that was against them.
Speaker 3: Which you consider that more gangster than a dog food? No,
Speaker 3: but let me finish. No, I'm just saying, thought, those
Speaker 3: are your top fifteen whatever. But you can consider Bone
Speaker 3: Thugs more gangster than the dog pound, dazz and corrupt.
Speaker 1: This is a music.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not who's more gangs and it's still music
Speaker 3: because because still in the aspect of the dog pound
Speaker 3: versus ball thugs and army eat dog pounds, still is
Speaker 3: more gangster.
Speaker 1: But that's a different conversation here. That's a different conversation. Now,
Speaker 1: if I'm picking some motherfuckers, do.
Speaker 4: You know who represents cripping the hardiest? That's a different
Speaker 4: like that. Yeah, that's a different question.
Speaker 1: And then this is what I say right here, they
Speaker 1: told about three shit, you know you've got the first.
Speaker 3: Or maybe maybe maybe the aspects should have been more
Speaker 3: on street records instead of gangster because when you go gangster,
Speaker 3: niggas are gonna go. How can you say Bone Thugs
Speaker 3: is more gangster than us? Right, you get me? Because
Speaker 3: that's what they consider gangster rap. Let's let's put it in.
Speaker 3: Let's go the West Coast in general, feet all straight up. Absolutely,
Speaker 3: they didn't start saying gangster rap because of us. If
Speaker 3: Bone Thugs in harmony came out whatever, they would never
Speaker 3: been called gangster rap, they would beat bone Thugs in harmony, right,
Speaker 3: you give me. But because the symbolization of gangsters came
Speaker 3: from West Coast niggas going with crips and bloods. Okay,
Speaker 3: So niggas like Easy started talking about boys in the
Speaker 3: hood because we were hood niggas. You're right, you saw
Speaker 3: the aspect of some people. The generalization is I love
Speaker 3: Bone Thug bang the fuck out of East nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 3: But when you go put it up against somebody who's
Speaker 3: supposed to be a gangster fucking rapper, people are gonna
Speaker 3: question that. Like, I never considered bone Thugs gangster. Was
Speaker 3: they street? Yeah? They were small niggas, but they did.
Speaker 1: But that's that's like.
Speaker 4: But that's the thing of different people looking at different things.
Speaker 4: We you and I didn't think the Loonies were a
Speaker 4: gangst The rap album still did, but that's still's opinions.
Speaker 1: So it's not a to me. That's one part of
Speaker 1: us that, dude, do you.
Speaker 3: Like, does it go to the aspect of so when
Speaker 3: you bang Operation Stackola.
Speaker 1: Which is a phenomenal accent to.
Speaker 3: The Loonies, that you think they were gangster niggas or
Speaker 3: you just felt they were some street niggas.
Speaker 1: Well, this is what I feel like. This, I feel
Speaker 1: like anything with catsers talking about some street ship.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: See that's what we disagree those I disagree with you.
Speaker 1: Still I don't think of it.
Speaker 3: That way, Yeah, because that's to me, I don't think
Speaker 3: of it. I don't think that niggas who's everyone who
Speaker 3: talks street ship is a gangster rapp But that's why
Speaker 3: I said.
Speaker 1: And here's the songs on the album On Louise album
Speaker 1: number two, on which album Operation stack Ola you got?
Speaker 1: The intro number two is put the lid on. You
Speaker 1: talk about busting on somebody.
Speaker 4: But that's not that's not gang banging those that's mart
Speaker 4: it's not gang but it's not gang bag.
Speaker 3: It's street ship. It's not what they're saying they're from,
Speaker 3: or they claim they're not in the vill.
Speaker 1: They claim in the vill. What's what's the ville? The
Speaker 1: ville is the neighborhood where they're from. The ville up
Speaker 1: in the one one of the artists neighborhoods and the
Speaker 1: one on the West coast is up there.
Speaker 3: They do their ship.
Speaker 1: They selling dope up there, they're selling pussy, they're doing
Speaker 1: some everything. Motherfucker's getting shot. That's some gamester ship to me.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just the aspect of where you like
Speaker 3: I said, Like I said, West coast, West coast artists
Speaker 3: are gonna always fit, especially if they in that field.
Speaker 3: But because like I said, we've had niggas outside of
Speaker 3: gangster shit. We've had hieroglyphics, we've had fucking the all
Speaker 3: the funky homo sapey, and we've had the alcoholic and
Speaker 3: I wouldn't put the album no, and that's what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: but they still talk to street shit. I banged the
Speaker 3: alcoholics because it's street ship.
Speaker 1: To me.
Speaker 3: The niggas ain't talking about motherfucking you know, riding hot
Speaker 3: air balloons and niggas talking about nigga we getting drunk
Speaker 3: in the neighborhood and you know bitches and that's some
Speaker 3: street shit to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the Alcoholics always represent themselves as a hip
Speaker 1: hop group. There was more like of course, I think too.
Speaker 4: This is another big thing that I think, kind of
Speaker 4: building off what E's saying, is that when we go
Speaker 4: to other cities, Chicago got a lot of gang banging music,
Speaker 4: but because the media or the fans or whatever, nationally,
Speaker 4: the West coast. However, don't look at it like, oh,
Speaker 4: these dudes are representing gd These dudes are representing whatever
Speaker 4: they represent, Lantin Kings.
Speaker 1: Whatever, Vice Lords.
Speaker 4: They're not looked at as gangster rappers to the average person,
Speaker 4: even though if you listen to a lot of their
Speaker 4: music it's super gag bag.
Speaker 3: They would be considered gangster them. And here you have
Speaker 3: the niggas talking about we from sixty this, yeah, sixty that,
Speaker 3: we from this, we from Tucaville, we from one A
Speaker 3: saying back in the day, nobody looking nobody, no, no,
Speaker 3: they were banging on their records because back in the
Speaker 3: day when you got when you listening to Hey in
Speaker 3: the barn, right, Oh, but niggas is going there them
Speaker 3: niggas a street I knew, Cruise Show did a lot
Speaker 3: of songs with a lot of shows with them, But
Speaker 3: nobody would go all their niggas gangster rappers.
Speaker 4: But they knew that in Chicago because you understood the slang,
Speaker 4: and you have to understand the slang in order to
Speaker 4: be able to look at them as gangster rap rappers.
Speaker 3: Pip was good street you know it. But yeah, the
Speaker 3: Chicago image to us was common and ship like that. So,
Speaker 3: but then, like I said, when you go down South,
Speaker 3: there was the Ghetto Boys, there was fucking Willie B.
Speaker 3: Scarface Bushwick, it was fucking Big Mike, it was fucking
Speaker 3: three two. It was fucking against the Nip and you
Speaker 3: know it was it was it was well, you knew.
Speaker 3: I had a conversation.
Speaker 1: It was fucking slim thug you know, it against the
Speaker 1: rap to me in the North, in the North, the
Speaker 1: Boss of the North and a w f the North,
Speaker 1: nor Big Boss of the North, slim Thuger, slimp Thugger
Speaker 1: has some dope as albums.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh that's that's all I was saying. You know,
Speaker 3: the opinions of and I feel that the opinions of
Speaker 3: certain certain consumers and fans as opposed to you know,
Speaker 3: because then that's gonna be the controversy. Oh how can
Speaker 3: you not have this? So and still how can you
Speaker 3: not have this record? But you got this wreck?
Speaker 1: And I think my list is gangster then the motherfucker
Speaker 1: fifteen DJ Quick Quick as the name, sixteen Snoop Dog,
Speaker 1: the last meal, sit.
Speaker 3: All you let me acts this, I'll do it, both
Speaker 3: of y'all. Out of the top fifty Gangster rap records.
Speaker 3: What did you not consider about CBO not making the
Speaker 3: top fifty? Oh oh, you said he's fifty two. He
Speaker 3: had it all, he had like three albums made you
Speaker 3: as your list go, he ain't gangster enough to make
Speaker 3: my top fifty.
Speaker 1: Well, see, first of all, I didn't gage must for
Speaker 1: who the Heart because if it was based off who
Speaker 1: the artist motherfucker was, that's a different things. You know
Speaker 1: what a lot of these people personally, a lot of
Speaker 1: these motherfuckers on here. I ain't saying in bad, but
Speaker 1: they ain't this to the artist. Be a different list,
Speaker 1: be a different list.
Speaker 3: I questioned it, Uh, we all want to question your
Speaker 3: your heart miss authenticity right now, queens. I ain't saying
Speaker 3: them right, they just saying this is kirs. This is
Speaker 3: just like like, yeah, we we got questioned your hood
Speaker 3: is or whatever. We just I'm just asking them, you know,
Speaker 3: And this is that this is their personal opinion because
Speaker 3: it's not about your your stripes, and it ate about
Speaker 3: how many times you got down with the opposition, or
Speaker 3: if you're crip, if you ever h you know, got
Speaker 3: into some blood ship or if you're a blood if
Speaker 3: you ever got into some crip shit we're not. We're
Speaker 3: not question in that. I'm just asking his opinion because
Speaker 3: of his top fifty. Why didn't he consider see bowl
Speaker 3: inside that fifty?
Speaker 1: Actually, you know what, I'm gonna tell you Where I
Speaker 1: originally had Seaboo Dog, I had the mob Father in there, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: I originally had the mob Father in there.
Speaker 3: But I originally had that at number forty one. Okay,
Speaker 3: So what made you thank you? I had to go
Speaker 3: back and ruder you have as forty one, I got
Speaker 3: Coolia It Takes a Thief.
Speaker 1: That was a hard ass album. And I just say,
Speaker 1: to those two albums, I go with the mob Father,
Speaker 1: not because it's cool, yeah, but.
Speaker 3: What gave me a choice and COOLi, Oh rest in
Speaker 3: Peace was my people's you know, I would go with
Speaker 3: my father all day or that one direction going on
Speaker 3: quality of not quality of music, but not necessarily. Still, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: let it. I want to hear this. I want to
Speaker 3: hear this.
Speaker 1: What on the thing is I'm I'm gonna acknowledge y'all
Speaker 1: both about something about Coolier Takes It Thief because it
Speaker 1: sounds like you're a sleeping on homie.
Speaker 3: No, that's not it.
Speaker 1: Never well, let me remind you all about something looking
Speaker 1: at I'll hurt all you all out, I'll hurt all yo.
Speaker 1: Let me put my track listen up all right, talk
Speaker 1: about the county line, the Will's fair office, that don't like,
Speaker 1: they don't have nothing. What what the fuck did this?
Speaker 1: She gotta do with gangs bangers? So a motherfucker to have.
Speaker 3: A reality saying then why then why didn't we do
Speaker 3: a list that says reality. Rap records or street influence
Speaker 3: record says when you go gangster, niggas is gonna go
Speaker 3: no way. Toulio's music is more gangster than ce Bowl
Speaker 3: and it has nothing to do with because he talking
Speaker 3: about the county line and welfare with.
Speaker 1: A gangster And the album went two times the sales.
Speaker 3: Little latinum because of Gangster's Paradise. Well no, that was
Speaker 3: on the next album. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, still.
Speaker 1: It takes a thief gangster's paradise on it takes a teeth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but thank you. When you heard that ship,
Speaker 3: he'll be thinking, Conny lyone be checking me.
Speaker 1: Actually, hold on, man, I'm a brother, tell you well.
Speaker 3: Need you, We want you to know why you went
Speaker 3: with it. Takes a thief. Mob five.
Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm gonna tell you if something gainst his
Speaker 1: paradise wasn't on, it takes a thief. It is, brother,
Speaker 1: show you something, Brother, show you something.
Speaker 3: Why can't you just answer the question and stop trying
Speaker 3: to compare your songs? This is what what made you pick?
Speaker 3: It takes a thief over the mob Father.
Speaker 1: Because I thought it was a better body of work,
Speaker 1: Not like that right there. I thought it was overall
Speaker 1: a bitter place.
Speaker 3: So what just production and publicity and all of that.
Speaker 3: Oh not just that man right there.
Speaker 1: See, I looked at the broad appeal of it, and
Speaker 1: the mob Father album was the ship it is. I
Speaker 1: lost like I ain't gonna say I lost sleep over
Speaker 1: this ship. But it was hard. I went back and
Speaker 1: forth up to the last mint over this ship. It
Speaker 1: was a lot of shit that guy switched out. And
Speaker 1: I remember them songs.
Speaker 3: My father was one of them.
Speaker 4: Uh, gas chamber for me is up there. Almost almost
Speaker 4: put up the casket.
Speaker 1: Drops, come on, man, Almost put FBI by my guys
Speaker 1: from out of Flint, Dayden Family, Dayden Family, Almost put FBI.
Speaker 1: I feel real strongly about that. That's a great album.
Speaker 1: Almost put that up in there, and I almost put
Speaker 1: the almis up in their top authority. That was one
Speaker 1: of the most some to blaze too. That Michigan Flint
Speaker 1: had some cold ass gangster shit jumping.
Speaker 3: Let me hear your shit from forty to fifty, From forty.
Speaker 1: To fifty, here you go right here forty brother Ling Shawn,
Speaker 1: Season of the Sickness. I'll take that forty one Coolio.
Speaker 1: It takes a thief forty two Spice one self titled
Speaker 1: forty three Big Mic some serious number forty four do
Speaker 1: or Die? Picture this number forty five, young jeezy. Let's
Speaker 1: get a thug motivation one on one forty six but
Speaker 1: of law, living like Us forty seven scar Faced The
Speaker 1: World is Yours forty eight Thug Life, Thug Life Volume one.
Speaker 3: Forty nine, Doug Life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Thug Life, Big Psych or a Little liquor, Well
Speaker 1: lit it on there. Don't blame mama, you can't blame
Speaker 1: my daddy, Big Psych and all of them.
Speaker 3: I know they were in his favorites then his personal
Speaker 3: favorites forty I have no disrespect to Thug Life. I
Speaker 3: never listened to that record. I like that record, I
Speaker 3: like I never listened to that rac forty nine.
Speaker 1: And y'all might disagree with this, but I thought mag
Speaker 1: Drad was gangster. Mag Dre's stupid, d doodoo dumb and
Speaker 1: number fifty mc breeds a new breed eight steal. Half
Speaker 1: of those I wouldn't say are even gangster rapper. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, y'all basing everything off of a
Speaker 1: motherfucker's a cripple blood. No I'm not.
Speaker 3: Oh, we're banged by don't they have to be it?
Speaker 3: So they have.
Speaker 1: In order for you to be against rapper, you have
Speaker 1: to be a member of an organization. That's what it
Speaker 1: is in the blood and that's what I swept that, Listen,
Speaker 1: that's what said that against him. Thereforece coalition.
Speaker 3: He was with the funks from the Crest. Listen. And
Speaker 3: I can get it, like you know, everybody does against
Speaker 3: the rapper. Everybody doesn't have cripping and blood and I
Speaker 3: get that. So the aspect of when you say gangster rat.
Speaker 1: And almost puts juvenile up in that more for the
Speaker 1: form of the degrees the juvenile in against the rapper, Nah,
Speaker 1: jay Z, reasonable doul. That's not a lot of records
Speaker 1: I wanted to put in here. I didn't put in
Speaker 1: because yes, right there, I didn't put jay Z's reasonable.
Speaker 1: That's not a gangster rapp, a gangster rapper.
Speaker 3: That's just to me that street ship it is street
Speaker 3: street ship is different from gangster ship. Still, it's you're different,
Speaker 3: and I get it. You come from the side where
Speaker 3: you feel like nigga gangster is a gangster. It don't
Speaker 3: matter if he claiming the hood. But you can't tell
Speaker 3: that to niggas who claimed hoods and who are gainst
Speaker 3: the rapper.
Speaker 1: I understand that. That's why that's what I'm saying. On
Speaker 1: the West Saw, everybody has their opinion like that. That's
Speaker 1: their opinion, that's their stances.
Speaker 3: No, even if you go to the East coast, you
Speaker 3: go to the East coast, they called us gangster rappers.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you. This is Benny Sigel against
Speaker 1: the rapper. Not to me, his his song should have
Speaker 1: been on this. I didn't put him in there because
Speaker 1: I knew you all would be coming with this ship.
Speaker 1: Right there, right there, Benny Siegel.
Speaker 3: Had water and he was hood. Benny hood is. I
Speaker 3: thought he was hood. I thought he was hood. What
Speaker 3: I put him in the category because of seeing how
Speaker 3: you step in then he would probably make my list
Speaker 3: for gangster rap records.
Speaker 1: And I thought I could swear all these people gonna
Speaker 1: hear his gainst the rappers to me and my my
Speaker 1: humble opinion, And I.
Speaker 3: Didn't have a whole I just crossed streets. It with
Speaker 3: with with with gangster rappers two different things. I don't know,
Speaker 3: and a lot of people do that. That's why when
Speaker 3: you when you can say I thought it takes a
Speaker 3: thief was more gangster than the mob Father, You're never
Speaker 3: gonna get that fucking.
Speaker 1: See see not in base minol, because if it was
Speaker 1: based on the criteria who the hardest motherfucker is the
Speaker 1: two motherfuckers at the top, the list would have been
Speaker 1: se Boll and Trade or something.
Speaker 3: But but but the nigga wouldn't have a nigga, wouldn't
Speaker 3: have second geinst you and Nick and tradey hard as
Speaker 3: a mother fuck me can ranks, can rhyme like the
Speaker 3: mother let me rhyme. And you know why it's a difference.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna tell you this. You know why.
Speaker 1: You know why I got the East Sidens and their
Speaker 1: self titled album in there because they both rhyming like
Speaker 1: a motherfucker. Se Bull was rhyming like a motherfucker on
Speaker 1: the gas chain brand mob fucker. Everything Seball put out
Speaker 1: was a one. I'm not saying he wouldn't they one.
Speaker 1: It was just in my personal opinion.
Speaker 3: Is, come on, take a ride on the fantastic voyage.
Speaker 3: It's like compare that to a se Bowl song where
Speaker 3: Sea Bows standing on the block with.
Speaker 1: In fact, still, if I remember correctly.
Speaker 3: That a nigga's riding around on bake wheels and shit
Speaker 3: and making shit comical, You're never gonna get a nigga
Speaker 3: to oh you feel me?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 3: What is Coolio? Oh no?
Speaker 4: What does Coolio say on Gangster's Paradize, Ain't no blooding,
Speaker 4: ain't no cripping, Ain't no punk ass brother set tripping.
Speaker 4: He's actually saying I know what he's saying. But it's
Speaker 4: also like, come.
Speaker 1: On, it was a different see y'all taking it from
Speaker 1: the stands man, y'all. But he says it on the
Speaker 1: song still, but the brother is saying that ain't no
Speaker 1: set tripping going on that day. Brothers have a good time.
Speaker 1: Niggas ain't just hard twenty four motherfucker siven.
Speaker 3: If if you want, if you if you want to,
Speaker 3: if you want to give that on the aspect, because
Speaker 3: Coolio was from the West Coast, he came up with.
Speaker 1: Dub you know, and any damn thing changes on my list.
Speaker 3: But to me, Coolio wasn't crazy once he touched that
Speaker 3: pop side. I'm not tripping off of that. I'm not
Speaker 3: finna rap rapped on color blinde. So let me ask
Speaker 3: you all this. I'm finna rap about having fun par
Speaker 3: address code and you get me, nigga, we finna be
Speaker 3: one tune, three four, get yall. You know, nobody's gonna
Speaker 3: come here as y'all list down.
Speaker 1: I eight Ball and MJG on there, coming up hard.
Speaker 1: They're not gangster. The album one Gangster.
Speaker 5: That's a gangster album. Bank Robbery, mister Big, that's some
Speaker 5: street ship. It's some street ship. Yeah, and it's street
Speaker 5: That's where I'm coming from.
Speaker 1: I got dubbed C. The Shadi is on there, y'all.
Speaker 1: Don't think Mob Deep murder music, y'all. I think that's
Speaker 1: gangster shit. I put Mob Deep on my list. I
Speaker 1: think they're gangster for real, for sure. I mean, and
Speaker 1: the thing he is, I don't know what product you getting,
Speaker 1: old boy is the hardest motherfucker's in the world. I
Speaker 1: don't think about It's just a hard ass out and
Speaker 1: that shit used to be. You know, they got some pe.
Speaker 3: Like I said, it's a difference of opinion of what
Speaker 3: motherfucker's gonna say gangster shit is, because if you never
Speaker 3: came from the gang bang life, you gonna consider anything
Speaker 3: a nigga talking about pulling a pistol I saw dope,
Speaker 3: you know whatever whatever to.
Speaker 1: You that niggas is gangster. I want to ask because
Speaker 1: I don't can't, I don't clean crippled blood, and I
Speaker 1: think I've done everything damn near every every other motherfucker
Speaker 1: from other neighborhood don't did except for gang bang. I
Speaker 1: want to I wanna see something real quick, cold on,
Speaker 1: real quick, old on. I'm gonna ask the motherfucker that
Speaker 1: nigga is really from the motherfucker and I know you're
Speaker 1: really from the soil, but I just want to see
Speaker 1: all side nigga's opinion, right, it's really from the other
Speaker 1: A fady, I got you on a Gangster Chronicles live
Speaker 1: right now. I want to ask you a question, right,
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you a question. So I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: doing a whole bunch of customers.
Speaker 3: You know, all this nigga do, man, he all we
Speaker 3: gotta put is he already gotta do his live call
Speaker 3: lean some ship when we get to when we get
Speaker 3: to digging and steals ass. That's what he got the
Speaker 3: call for backup right quick.
Speaker 1: Hey, when we was kids, dog was all the eighty
Speaker 1: five six you was doing. I was doing it with you, right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let yeah he did you steal up? He
Speaker 1: don't be thinking, man, he he just just know. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about as far as the ship that we be got,
Speaker 1: you know, like a nigga was selling dope, A nigga.
Speaker 3: Was still wants and still wants to know the difference.
Speaker 3: Let me know. I'll be check it out. Still wants
Speaker 3: to know the difference of gang of gang ship and
Speaker 3: street ship. Is there a difference?
Speaker 1: Thank you?
Speaker 3: There you go. We talked about some music. It don't
Speaker 3: matter if it's music or if it's it's night. Difference
Speaker 3: between gangster shit and street ship is exactly yeah.
Speaker 1: And then it's still I don't I got If I
Speaker 1: wasn't went to the Benet Pintry, you'd have been from
Speaker 1: the set that was so different. But yeah, you nigga
Speaker 1: bus some niggas up, nigga pistol on your set, acting
Speaker 1: funny with your money and sit well, get that about
Speaker 1: this thing your free with nigga was going about.
Speaker 3: It, but you just you just heard him. If I
Speaker 3: wouldn't have went it a being you would have went,
Speaker 3: you would have got put on the hood. There's a difference.
Speaker 3: You aren't you. You know you ain't from the hood.
Speaker 3: You ain't from the hood. Yeah, you were selling. I
Speaker 3: know plenty of niggas right now who don't claim shit
Speaker 3: and still do street ship. I still serve, I still
Speaker 3: get my whatever, but I'm not going around claiming a
Speaker 3: particular spot. And we did that. It's a difference between
Speaker 3: gangster ship and street ship.
Speaker 1: Can I do?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 1: Would have cooked with you if you're the claim to
Speaker 1: say what I mean by that? You was able to
Speaker 1: cause tires and line fuck with niggas from the really
Speaker 1: from different sets. You was able to mingle on going
Speaker 1: around and not have a uh you know protocol that's
Speaker 1: be ad to do some he'll back there. If you
Speaker 1: saw a nigga from another set and then with enemy,
Speaker 1: it was a little dude. If you were the active
Speaker 1: live day when you got cracked on that nigga off
Speaker 1: the dribble and we were doing that, you know long sight.
Speaker 1: Really they get properly with the gas fum. She went
Speaker 1: to the brother it's spot they gonna get pomping. But
Speaker 1: are you not being.
Speaker 3: You wasn't affiliated, so you can still go out there
Speaker 3: and cop dope and sell and do all that. But
Speaker 3: when you see a nigga from the other side, you're
Speaker 3: gonna be like, hey, what's up on me? You're gonna
Speaker 3: be like, what's up? Man? It ain't gonna be like nigga,
Speaker 3: this is the who on sight. It's a difference between
Speaker 3: gangster ship and street ship. I know plenty of niggas
Speaker 3: who from the streets who have who you so?
Speaker 1: So you crossed that over too these albums too?
Speaker 3: Are Is there difference between street records and gangster records?
Speaker 3: Do you could sit probably let me ask you this.
Speaker 3: Would you consider Rick Ross against the rapper? What you what?
Speaker 3: Thank you? Thank you? What you consider Sea Bowl against
Speaker 3: the rapper? Is he a gang member? Yeah, it's a
Speaker 3: difference between games street ship. It's a difference just saying
Speaker 3: you just put the cripping all up in the Music's
Speaker 3: Chris about about blood. It's it's it's about the name gangster.
Speaker 3: Compared to just street shot, we call holimited the album.
Speaker 3: When the Funks came out, they wouldn't got on.
Speaker 1: Niggas know what it was. Oh well, even because you
Speaker 1: knew what them niggas as fuck, Well, you know what's
Speaker 1: there Ragusa than me.
Speaker 3: They didn't give a fuck. They didn't give a fuck nigga.
Speaker 3: On my first album cover, I had a Nike jacket on.
Speaker 3: You give me. I didn't have all blue bandannas and whatever. Whatever.
Speaker 3: It's just because niggas knew I was from Tragnu. That's
Speaker 3: a gangster rapper. When I went out of town in
Speaker 3: New York and I went to promo, shit and WOOTI woom,
Speaker 3: and niggas see us jump out with sweatshirts on and
Speaker 3: blue khakis and blue Nikes with strings in them. Shit,
Speaker 3: they go them niggas gangsters. Now, I could have jumped
Speaker 3: out in some guest jeans and a regular button down
Speaker 3: and been like, yeah, nigga, I'm from Compton. They'd have
Speaker 3: been like, oh, yeah, that's the he from the streets.
Speaker 3: But nah, Now when I'm jumping out nigga with the
Speaker 3: jury curl nigga and the tea hat on and motherfucking
Speaker 3: the khakis and the blue converts with pot of blue
Speaker 3: strings in them. When I walk up in that corporate office,
Speaker 3: them Nigga's going, that's a Gates the rapper. They're not
Speaker 3: going that nigga street.
Speaker 1: It's a difference.
Speaker 3: I just could have done figure at a nigga.
Speaker 1: Man, I've been fucking dad became producing all that I
Speaker 1: don't understand.
Speaker 3: Perfect, perfect, perfect example, perfect example. Coolio from Campton, which
Speaker 3: you considered Cooliol Gates the rapper.
Speaker 1: I missed before you. I knew he was a rapper.
Speaker 6: I knew he was a count and then I know
Speaker 6: he messed with the FC in the mass. He did
Speaker 6: Cogy to rescue. So when you when you put on
Speaker 6: a Coolio record compared to a Ceball record, who would
Speaker 6: you say was more gangster?
Speaker 3: Didn't know walk.
Speaker 1: I feel you man Yoga ostracized me. So I ain't
Speaker 1: got no sea Ball on this business.
Speaker 3: Time to start fucking with him. No, I'm just saying though,
Speaker 3: just like I just saying, you know, I got the
Speaker 3: same thing for sore and though because so I got
Speaker 3: his list, what I will.
Speaker 1: Admit sea Ball probably should have been on this list somewhere.
Speaker 1: But now do we take one of Scarface's albums off?
Speaker 3: Now, it's just it's to let me tell you what
Speaker 3: happens with that type of ship? What face.
Speaker 1: That we got scar Face in the gettle that work?
Speaker 3: What happens with Sea Ball? It is because Sea Bowl
Speaker 3: got it.
Speaker 1: You got eight on that.
Speaker 3: Let's just face it.
Speaker 1: He was an underground rapt ever made it volume teen.
Speaker 1: I was volume teer against the record. I know he
Speaker 1: had the one song pistol dude, that was a jack
Speaker 1: of album nigga I was. He was out the bank
Speaker 1: it off, putting my lap. Point of the time, I've
Speaker 1: been checking forum and got the food. Don't get jacking
Speaker 1: from my That is probably the most gast pistol rip
Speaker 1: my what? But was this album like, where's the body
Speaker 1: of work at?
Speaker 3: With no?
Speaker 1: It's called hip hopra it's not a gangster rap out.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, some dudes didn't want the gangster rap title, right.
Speaker 3: A lot of niggas didn't want it. A lot of
Speaker 3: niggas didn't want it because, like I said, it was
Speaker 3: a different time back then. Now you can say you're
Speaker 3: a gangster. Talk about you from trag New we shot
Speaker 3: up a gang of niggas and then you get twenty
Speaker 3: million downloads and shit you give me.
Speaker 1: But back in Argus, it was getting banned not playing videos.
Speaker 3: Yes, people did not like us. You know why should
Speaker 3: have liked this though?
Speaker 1: Me knowing a lot of rappers, the call theyselve gangsters
Speaker 1: and some niggas from me even hood, I feel like
Speaker 1: I was more active than they was when we was.
Speaker 3: Younger, you know what I mean? And I get what
Speaker 3: you're saying that that still but now you like a
Speaker 3: oh the look, the fun we get this off from
Speaker 3: the gard.
Speaker 4: We had.
Speaker 1: I think the way artists like yourself and uh, the
Speaker 1: artists who did not come out and say what he
Speaker 1: was from on their record, but niggas we knew where
Speaker 1: he was from, I think you made more money doing
Speaker 1: it that way then the way niggas put they set
Speaker 1: out there. Now, I think you eliminate yourself of making
Speaker 1: some kind of money was because you're signifying where you're
Speaker 1: fun of. Back then, I don't think that the major
Speaker 1: du Lendey seeing out where he was fun by you
Speaker 1: not signifying word about where where you're from over and
Speaker 1: over in the song, I think you made more money
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's the person made more money like that.
Speaker 4: That's why everybody wore neutral colors for years on the
Speaker 4: album covers and the videos all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah we're married and you know I had never met
Speaker 1: you personally.
Speaker 3: You shouldn't give We thought we knew where he was from.
Speaker 1: You know what, wasn't no puzz they one you so
Speaker 1: in any other artists that.
Speaker 3: We called him out with a blue cassette tape. Man,
Speaker 3: My first album on cassette t was.
Speaker 1: A blue the Blue tape.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, I was bang. Man, I'm know you doing.
Speaker 3: I didn't give a fuck. Sure, but I didn't give
Speaker 3: a fuck. Nigga. I was gang banged, Central nigga. Nigga
Speaker 3: Blue Tape, Nigga campt In high school nigga. I had
Speaker 3: nigga about twenty track new niggas in the video like
Speaker 3: see shit.
Speaker 1: We was always my aspect of shit, right because that.
Speaker 3: Was shit I was doing already before.
Speaker 1: That's who you were. Yeah, that's who you were.
Speaker 3: That's why it's the difference of being street, because I
Speaker 3: could have been a nigga who was living in Campting,
Speaker 3: never gang banging. I still had to skill to write
Speaker 3: and do music. So I could have just been a
Speaker 3: nigga just you know, But for the fact that I
Speaker 3: came up game banging, I started gang banging and from
Speaker 3: singing the fuck an oppression from being a gang banger
Speaker 3: and the like a nigg I got the rights about
Speaker 3: this shit, like because as I saw no way, you know.
Speaker 3: But like I said, it was plenty of niggas who
Speaker 3: records that I banged. I didn't consider gangster, just considered
Speaker 3: the street shit. Fucking like you said, a reasonable doubt.
Speaker 3: I banged the fuck out that shit. It gave me
Speaker 3: street vibes, you understand me, nigging the projects, hustling, try
Speaker 3: to get his money. Can't knock the hustle, you know,
Speaker 3: politics as usual. You know, it's nigga from the streets.
Speaker 3: He ain't from no hood, but he from the streets. Well,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: And that was the aspect I took on it. I said, Okay,
Speaker 1: these as hard albums to me because I never liked
Speaker 1: soft music. You feel what I'm saying and cooliod shit
Speaker 1: wasn't the most aggressive in the world. But I feel
Speaker 1: like he has some jam and ass music on there.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of great music on this so I
Speaker 1: was just basing it. I based my list basically off
Speaker 1: of if there's some street shit. To me, that was
Speaker 1: some gas and shit because even though I wasn't never
Speaker 1: no cripp of blood and I don't ever talk about
Speaker 1: that shit, I did the same shit everybody else.
Speaker 3: I mean, but that's just like, that's like any out
Speaker 3: of town you know, affiliate who knows about neighborhoods and whatever.
Speaker 3: You came from Cleveland, you got down with my nigga,
Speaker 3: and to you, there's no symbolization. You ain't got to
Speaker 3: have a band, doanner. I don't got one, and I'm
Speaker 3: still out here doing the same what it was. It's
Speaker 3: a lot of niggas who come from out of town
Speaker 3: who set up shop and whatever, grow up whatever. You
Speaker 3: ain't gotta get put on right you. You ain't got
Speaker 3: to claim the hood, you get me, But that aspect
Speaker 3: still is. You consider nigga that nigga street where you
Speaker 3: can see a nigga pull up jump out of his
Speaker 3: motherfucking Mercedes and he got a strap on him and
Speaker 3: he liked nick nigga. That that's gangster shit, right, That's
Speaker 3: some gangster shit instead of that because you like I
Speaker 3: don't symbolize with the color aspect, So whether it's gangster
Speaker 3: or street, but the whole aspect is when you come
Speaker 3: from the West coast, up and down a little bit
Speaker 3: over in Arizona and then you go up to Nevada,
Speaker 3: them niggas is game banging. So when you go gangster rap,
Speaker 3: they're looking for the niggas. Who oh that nigga was
Speaker 3: from the sixties, That nigga was from tragnw Oh Sebo
Speaker 3: was banging up in Sacramento, Garden block shit, brother lynch Hunt.
Speaker 3: Even though he don't fucking nigga, I chop your fucking
Speaker 3: cause you're digging your guts. He was cleaning garden blotting black.
Speaker 3: That's a gangster rapper. Even though niggas go, nigga, what
Speaker 3: is this aura movie shit? This nigga rapper, He's still
Speaker 3: considered a gangster rapper because he told nigga, I'm from
Speaker 3: Garden Block rep. So it's a difference from going or
Speaker 3: E forty a gangster rapper. No E forty a hustler
Speaker 3: street nigga, you're getting me. We come from for Lao.
Speaker 3: We did our thing with it. But E forty ain't
Speaker 3: telling you, nigga I'm finna go bust on the nigga
Speaker 3: who got red or blue on.
Speaker 1: You know what it was with me, man, And the
Speaker 1: reason the reason why I never got into the game
Speaker 1: banging shit because I had too many other homeboys. And
Speaker 1: that's one thing I saw because that chick. You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta remember, I came out to this motherfucker eighty
Speaker 1: eight eighty nine. It was serious back then, oh definitely,
Speaker 1: and I saw motherfuckers. I said, Okay, so if I'm
Speaker 1: over here, I can't be cool with the homies.
Speaker 3: No, oh you can't. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, man, I'm a lot of child
Speaker 3: from a lot of childhood friends separated because you know,
Speaker 3: we played from you football together and we all went
Speaker 3: to the same school until it came time to go
Speaker 3: to high school. And so now nigga, you going over there,
Speaker 3: I'm over here. We no longer can be friends, right
Speaker 3: you from over there?
Speaker 1: And it was like that, man, because I had a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of casts up from twenties. I was cool
Speaker 1: with the the motherfucker and they was trying to do
Speaker 1: the same shit. That's what fun, you know, was us
Speaker 1: them niggas go over my house. All they was like, man,
Speaker 1: you mother.
Speaker 3: Would be from the I mean, I expect this to recruit.
Speaker 3: I don't give fuck the Army, the Navy, any sports team. Nigga.
Speaker 3: We gang bangers niggas. So how do we sustain and
Speaker 3: how do we last forever? We can recruit, right, if
Speaker 3: we gotta recruit. So you out of town ass, nigga,
Speaker 3: and you done came out of here and now you're
Speaker 3: on the block with a serving and you know, if
Speaker 3: we fight a nigga, you fight. You know, whether you
Speaker 3: came at the football shit and new niggas from all sides, like, nigga,
Speaker 3: we gonna fight. Oh, come over here with us and
Speaker 3: then them nigga's gonna be and then one day when
Speaker 3: you go kick it with the twenties nigga.
Speaker 1: Nigga, you need to be from over here.
Speaker 3: Right, and then you gonna go across. You go across
Speaker 3: the tracks and got a couple of blood friends and
Speaker 3: they gonna do the same thing. Nigga, you need to
Speaker 3: be from with us. It's the nature of the beasts.
Speaker 3: Nigga is shit. We gonna recruit your country ass, and
Speaker 3: we gonna call you country loke and you gonna be
Speaker 3: from the hood, Nigga country, and we'll put your ass.
Speaker 3: It's a workmen, dickies and overalls, and you're gonna be
Speaker 3: on the block with us and what niggas come through. Nigga.
Speaker 3: That's big country right there.
Speaker 1: From the hood, Nigga, Nigga, Man, we was out there
Speaker 1: doing some every motherfucking things.
Speaker 3: You would have got put on.
Speaker 1: Nigga.
Speaker 3: We don't give a fuck. You was in the hood
Speaker 3: with us. A gona be with this nigga living over
Speaker 3: here playing football. Please, Nigga, you hanging out with us?
Speaker 3: What they smoke it? Nigga gonna be three niggas just
Speaker 3: go jump oh your ass. Next thing you know, you're
Speaker 3: gonna be like, what the fuck are you official?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: Still big country nigga track new I wasn't going fun shit.
Speaker 3: You you good. You're glad niggas respected you to let
Speaker 3: you like, I want to get a fit because us, Nigga,
Speaker 3: we would have stuck your big country ass. It'd been like, Nigga,
Speaker 3: you would have been like, Oh, ain't with you up?
Speaker 3: What day you going to be in the cave over
Speaker 3: to the backyard. You're to see the about five six
Speaker 3: niggas in the backyard. You'd been like, what's up eight niggas?
Speaker 3: Today is today? Man?
Speaker 1: You know how they got the homiesid boys today? They
Speaker 1: got the homie from Florida. So cold with that ship
Speaker 1: one time man, because he liked to go drinking with
Speaker 1: the motherfucker. See, I knew enough, we gonna go do
Speaker 1: this and do that. But certain situations, I'm not going
Speaker 1: over nobody's cribs at the barracters. You in the backyard.
Speaker 1: He came home, man, I didn't go. He came home
Speaker 1: his eyes and swollen up. I said, what the fuck
Speaker 1: happened to you?
Speaker 3: Motherfucker? I want to grab my look. He said, no, oh,
Speaker 3: nigga's a vicial now nigg motherfucker's bankers. And I'm from
Speaker 3: the hood, now, nigga, now what? And he was out
Speaker 3: there putting all kind of I think that motherfucker might
Speaker 3: have could have been out here like nigga. You could
Speaker 3: have been big, big country nigga, Nigger country, nigga. For
Speaker 3: you to play football over the country log beach, insane,
Speaker 3: nigga ad you and you you was raiders out, wasn't you?
Speaker 3: I don't play I ain't you had no raiders. You
Speaker 3: had nothing Raiders nigga over there with Fombi. I had
Speaker 3: a couple of baseball catch Oh yeah, you don't know,
Speaker 3: mother for the exactly there, he's an insane. Don't trip
Speaker 3: you big country insane.
Speaker 1: I still got my Raiders starter jack shit, what man?
Speaker 3: The one thing about it ever, did you ever wear
Speaker 3: some Steelers? I ain't. I'll see so there it is. No,
Speaker 3: it wasn't like see that. Whyot he's official insane. He
Speaker 3: wore he wore Raiders over there, hanging with old.
Speaker 1: Bunch, and I got an old bunch of you know,
Speaker 1: and I ran with a whole bunch of blood class
Speaker 1: for a long time over there. But crawl from the
Speaker 1: mimis of my nigga crawls for by my brother. But
Speaker 1: like I said, niggas usually it got into the game
Speaker 1: banging shit because because.
Speaker 3: Usually when you get to when you get to mingling around,
Speaker 3: and especially when you wouldn't play and sport, because you know,
Speaker 3: out here nigga, the hood niggas be in the sports
Speaker 3: like a motherfucker, the youth sports and football and all
Speaker 3: that shit. So a lot of niggas, you know, the sons,
Speaker 3: and they shit. I didn't got into pretty plenty of
Speaker 3: confrontations at youth games over the all mad filiations.
Speaker 1: Shit thinging is all lower youth football out And this
Speaker 1: motherfucker we was playing, motherfucking not Mona Park. What's the
Speaker 1: other neighborhood over the motherfuckers to wear the green nig,
Speaker 1: the green and gold. What's the name of what's the
Speaker 1: name of the motherfucker's dog. I thought a motherfucker was
Speaker 1: gonna get the blowing out there that day.
Speaker 3: Dog. It was so thick.
Speaker 1: Dog the only big Bruce said, had his pistol.
Speaker 3: Women.
Speaker 1: It wasn't more. It's serious. It wasn't Mona Park, I forget.
Speaker 1: And this one motherfucker dog was walking across the motherfucker
Speaker 1: field looking at me like this, and I swear this
Speaker 1: motherfucker had a k up under his jacket.
Speaker 3: I looked. I said, man, we was about to get cracking.
Speaker 3: I have to grab pony. I said, no, said, it's serious.
Speaker 3: Out of here. Shit up in there, man like I
Speaker 3: saul like, Just like I said, the gang banging and
Speaker 3: street ship. So when you consider gangster rap and street
Speaker 3: affiliated rap, I guess we try to change that narrative,
Speaker 3: uh to go to you know, we were just spitting
Speaker 3: reality because we caught a lot of uh, we caught
Speaker 3: a lot of flack and hard ship for not even
Speaker 3: Claytman shit Satan. We was gangster rappers. That was the
Speaker 3: title that you know, the media and people gave us.
Speaker 3: I never, you know, I'm a gangster rapper. Just like
Speaker 3: Fownby said, they came out as counts most wanted now
Speaker 3: for the fact that we were all just local little niggas. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we all the niggas was claiming track knew over there
Speaker 3: or gang banging or whatever. So it was no question,
Speaker 3: never no question about uh, you know where was eight from?
Speaker 3: Was dubbed from? Where was Snoop or Dazz or corrupt
Speaker 3: or quick or you get me? Because niggas knew you
Speaker 3: lived here all your life. Niggas knew you shit a
Speaker 3: lot of niggas you start off your game bang.
Speaker 1: You just speaking of dazz That was kind of how
Speaker 1: that you so on? He said, yeah, fuck dazz Fu.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you that why you put dog
Speaker 1: Poune on your list? Oh, like I said, I thought
Speaker 1: the Chronic and Doggy Star are better.
Speaker 3: Than than dog Food.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they was just guessed on there though.
Speaker 3: I thought I thought that to me, it is.
Speaker 1: A big album.
Speaker 4: But to me, the other albums were better, and they're
Speaker 4: on them a lot, and they dazz In Corrupt in
Speaker 4: particular made those albums.
Speaker 3: And yeo that out of your top fifty, their dog
Speaker 3: Food album wasn't sufficient enough to you as a top
Speaker 3: fifty gangster rap record because of their appearances, No, no,
Speaker 3: no Chronic. So you're saying those to you were better
Speaker 3: than your presentation of just y'all by y'allselves.
Speaker 4: I felt that the Chronic is better than and Doggy
Speaker 4: Style are better than dog Food, and so to me,
Speaker 4: to me when I heard them, that was to me
Speaker 4: them at their prime as far as those three albums.
Speaker 4: And then when I also thought that dog Food, I
Speaker 4: thought the other albums on my list I think are
Speaker 4: better albums. It doesn't mean I think dog Food's a
Speaker 4: bad album because it's a great album. I just thought
Speaker 4: that when I hear them, I don't feel like they're not.
Speaker 1: Included, because they are included.
Speaker 4: They're on two of the highest rited ranked albums on
Speaker 4: my list. So I never would have thought like dads
Speaker 4: In Corrupt or not on here, because they are. They're
Speaker 4: on there multiple times, and they appear and help make
Speaker 4: those albums classics. They're part of the reason why I
Speaker 4: love those albums. So I didn't look at it like
Speaker 4: they're not represented, because they are represented. So I also
Speaker 4: happen to think that the other albums I named I
Speaker 4: feel are better than dog Food.
Speaker 3: I thought dog Food was the ship man it is. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I have dog Food in my top fifty if I
Speaker 3: had a list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think dog Food. Uh, I just think Man
Speaker 1: because me and Brown, Actually, you know, I can't remember.
Speaker 1: Behind the scenes, we were talking about that and he
Speaker 1: mixed one. What was the other album you mentioned, Brian,
Speaker 1: I could just think of that shiit nigga don like
Speaker 1: And I said the dog Brown was just bigger sad
Speaker 1: than you.
Speaker 3: But you can't see me. I see through you clearly
Speaker 3: think about what you gonna make me. I ain't not
Speaker 3: on the way home right then.
Speaker 1: I just remember that Man, that beat us, that beat
Speaker 1: it incredible.
Speaker 3: That motherfucker shit. Have you ever heard of water? And
Speaker 3: that's that ship was the ship I was getting paid
Speaker 3: great fucking psycho lighting nigga that I.
Speaker 1: Ran slipping the slide, big pimping, let's play house all
Speaker 1: that ship Man. Yeah, some bomb ass pussy all that man,
Speaker 1: that ship was hard, so looke dash dipper. I didn't
Speaker 1: sleep on your own boy, I had I liked.
Speaker 3: I like, I keep what you're saying because there was
Speaker 3: some songs that I could probably but I like the
Speaker 3: fucking living like Gangsters out from the Doll. That motherfucker
Speaker 3: dog Pound had some ship dog the dog Pound. I
Speaker 3: think man dazzn't corrupt man, I said. If if I
Speaker 3: had a my top fifty, I would definitely have Sea
Speaker 3: Bowl in there. I would definitely have dog Pound in there.
Speaker 3: It's it's hard, though, yeah, because you want to like,
Speaker 3: you don't want disrespect no one, but you want to
Speaker 3: stay on that you know, that gangster, you know, because
Speaker 3: like I said, that's the title they gave us. So
Speaker 3: we don't want to take nothing away from nobody who
Speaker 3: we feel has a street mentality album, you know, not
Speaker 3: more or less targeting the gangster shit.
Speaker 1: But well, plus, I mean, I've spent a lot of
Speaker 1: time with.
Speaker 3: Let me listen. First of all, niggas need to you know,
Speaker 3: really be able to value criticism. Oh yeah, for sure,
Speaker 3: our people's opinions of what music meant to them growing
Speaker 3: up through the life. You get me more fucking on.
Speaker 3: You know, Souring came from you know, Maryland. You know,
Speaker 3: he he you know, he really put his you know,
Speaker 3: his thought and what he felt like to him. You
Speaker 3: getting me, This ship don't necessarily mean, but I think
Speaker 3: Brian him or any other motherfucking nigga who doesn't put
Speaker 3: a list up on these Rolling Stone pages. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, because I sat and seen some ship
Speaker 3: like that and was like, oh, these motherfuckers is dumb.
Speaker 1: The fucker that that would definitely say that me and
Speaker 1: sore As listen is way more official than anyone memory.
Speaker 3: Well, I think because y'all basically we try to touch
Speaker 3: on not so much of the commercialism of hip hop,
Speaker 3: you get me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I look at it purely for the art.
Speaker 3: When you get with these motherfuckers like the Rolling Stones
Speaker 3: and the motherfucking and you know, the big play to
Speaker 3: play advertisements and shit, it's kind of hilarious because some
Speaker 3: of these motherfuckers don't even be past thirty years old,
Speaker 3: so for them to be able to judge the history
Speaker 3: of hip hop, hey fuck it, it's your personal favorite,
Speaker 3: it's not it's not value as far as law, You
Speaker 3: get me. It ain't like, oh, fuck it. They put
Speaker 3: up this list and it's just solidified, like the fucking
Speaker 3: ten Commandments. You get me, and what we say here
Speaker 3: is presented the top fifty and niggas. You can't you
Speaker 3: can't break the combatant if they say this is this
Speaker 3: fuck it. He just hit the computer in the beg
Speaker 3: and turned the damn thing about. Yeah, yeah, what luck, Yeah,
Speaker 3: well we ain't doing the uh the ocean pacifics and shit.
Speaker 3: You know, I where where them niggas at. Man, they
Speaker 3: got oceans and clefts and ship behind them.
Speaker 1: It would be nice.
Speaker 3: Like a nigga, what a good this nigga? What streets?
Speaker 3: Ship them niggas, all the niggas.
Speaker 1: And that's what I want to say to to me,
Speaker 1: there could be no wrong or no right list because
Speaker 1: music is such a personal experience, man. I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, because you know, like some
Speaker 1: of the albums in there, man, like touch my b like,
Speaker 1: because I could think about whenever I listen to any
Speaker 1: one of them albums on there, I could think about
Speaker 1: specific moments in my life right to where I might
Speaker 1: have been doing something, you know what I mean, whether
Speaker 1: that's me riding with one of my kids or whatever,
Speaker 1: or just hanging out one of the homies who may
Speaker 1: not eat be here no more like uh, and I
Speaker 1: will say the thug life out of meals and personal shit.
Speaker 1: For me, Me and Big Psych was really good friends.
Speaker 1: Cycle was like my brother. Definically we was like that
Speaker 1: was like my It was a time a to where
Speaker 1: I swear if I wouldn't hitting Psych Psych was hit
Speaker 1: me Big still with a dowe baby.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just how it is about me and
Speaker 3: Scarface and me and Spice, or me and DJ Premier,
Speaker 3: our personal relationships with my niggas. So I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: biased when they come to Spice, Scarface, Hit and Gang
Speaker 3: Starre DJ Premier. You get me. You can't. You can't
Speaker 3: fight me on that. You get me. So of course
Speaker 3: you know you got personal relationships. You know, used to
Speaker 3: be around niggas all the time, so you you valued
Speaker 3: they motherfucking music being in the studio recordings or so
Speaker 3: why wouldn't you recognize thug life?
Speaker 1: You feel me? But you know what I got, And
Speaker 1: I got two of Spice's albums in there. I mean
Speaker 1: I got the first one and I got one Eddy
Speaker 1: Siven Proof. I always go almost slipping the self tied
Speaker 1: one that was.
Speaker 3: Hard as uh. The one eighty seven record was the
Speaker 3: ship Man, Yeah, spicyes old motherfucker first one one, I
Speaker 3: mean the second one was the ship too that we
Speaker 3: did the murder show on he had. He had the
Speaker 3: motherfucking the song with motherfucking Boss on there and Banks
Speaker 3: with when.
Speaker 1: That's a great album and I just love especially because.
Speaker 3: With the clip and the trigger screaming like the yelling,
Speaker 3: come on nigga, and he had.
Speaker 1: The stutter flow on there that was so crazy.
Speaker 3: One eight one at seven and this is that murder,
Speaker 3: that murder he wrote one man, come on, man. Spikes
Speaker 3: had some ship on al first album was the Killer,
Speaker 3: the one eighty seven Proof, the Young Nigga, the in
Speaker 3: my Neighborhood is it Man Spicy album. His first album
Speaker 3: was the Shit Spices.
Speaker 1: Gonna hit you with two or three different flows. He
Speaker 1: hits you with a little study step. I got to
Speaker 1: get the god to get the going man that ship.
Speaker 3: When the actor has heard that, I said, I'm the
Speaker 3: crack house, the crack house. They can running out the
Speaker 3: crack house Nigga. That nigga has some ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Man, Spicy, it's classic. Spice Pies has some classics, dog.
Speaker 1: And that's another thing. If you if you're an artist
Speaker 1: and now on this list, that don't mean that we
Speaker 1: don't think.
Speaker 3: How Nigga sent us your lists, Ship and anybody. That's
Speaker 3: our telling Nigga. It's just our opinion. Like I said,
Speaker 3: we I've done records for thousands of years. Sowing has
Speaker 3: done interviews and written still has been in the publishing
Speaker 3: and fucked with motherfuckers, and so we just feel like
Speaker 3: our opinions we have, you know, not an advantage, but
Speaker 3: niggas is knowledge.
Speaker 1: You know what I don't like because I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you this. You know who had a cold lass who
Speaker 1: got classics too? Jail Feelingy. I saw him, you know,
Speaker 1: Jail was up in there. He said they had project
Speaker 1: pat twice. I can see Jao right now. I can
Speaker 1: see him all going on, man, fuck that cud.
Speaker 3: This is the thing, and this is what I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: This is the thing.
Speaker 3: When you do a list and the list is coming
Speaker 3: from significant West Coast representation hip hop, a lot of
Speaker 3: West Coast artists is gonna probably be a little offended
Speaker 3: when they go, how can you say gangster rap? Nigga
Speaker 3: and you ain't gonta know this. You ain't gonna know this, right, Nigga,
Speaker 3: I'm from San Diego from forties and I'm from path
Speaker 3: in this and I'm from Long Beach this and Nigga,
Speaker 3: my records was on point everybody. J Alden the motherfucker
Speaker 3: dog jay Ao Asid Waller, he has to pity me
Speaker 3: of gangster ship. That's all I say. You can do
Speaker 3: records like sharms stick and ship like that, focus on
Speaker 3: the focus on his own has hood shit. Man. Niggas
Speaker 3: don't niggas niggas in the hood. Doug at shurance and
Speaker 3: she got me, Nigga, go Juman's cigarette right now and
Speaker 3: be on the block high as a motherfucker. You know,
Speaker 3: it's certain songs that niggas knew. You get me like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is gonna resonate good with the neighborhood because even
Speaker 3: though a nigga talking about some dope shit, just like
Speaker 3: you know how the youngsters do now talk about popping
Speaker 3: you a perky or fucking whatever. Gang banging ass niggas
Speaker 3: not all of us, but it was a lot of
Speaker 3: niggas in the hood were smooking shining. So for somebody
Speaker 3: who you know, has significantly spoke on West Coast gang culture.
Speaker 3: You feel me. Of course you're gonna get a job
Speaker 3: like Nigga Project Pat nigga. I'm from San Diego, nigga
Speaker 3: forty this nigga. What the fuck? So you don't no disrespect?
Speaker 3: Like I said, all my comrades Crip's bloods, you know,
Speaker 3: no disrespect. Still got his opinion. He's a Cleveland native,
Speaker 3: but he done stomped around this motherfucker long enough to
Speaker 3: where you know his opinion is his is nigga fuck?
Speaker 3: You know, same thing with Sowing, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Radio shit, numerous interviews, videos, blogs, fucking whatever. He's then
Speaker 3: met a lot of us as far as it's hitting
Speaker 3: that way, ain't hitting shown.
Speaker 1: And you know what, man, the thing heels like, especially
Speaker 1: you know, just going back to jail right for a minute.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: I don't think people understand when you're putting these lists
Speaker 1: together how hard that shit is, because.
Speaker 3: You take, honestly, some niggas might just be just I
Speaker 3: forgot damn you get it because you really be trying
Speaker 3: to put your thinking in.
Speaker 1: Thinking. And I'm not gonna lie because I thought about
Speaker 1: you know, you wreakors I've had about eighty songs. When
Speaker 1: that motherfucker I was going back and forth, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: and all this and that, I came up with about
Speaker 1: seventy seven right off the top of my head, like
Speaker 1: it was nothing. And then you got to the visions
Speaker 1: and like I told somebody because somebody said, man, you
Speaker 1: didn't put master P Ghetto d on there this, And
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, man, I had the motherfucker
Speaker 1: their dog.
Speaker 3: But just as that nigga hit me about my nigga threat,
Speaker 3: like I ain't got deadly thread up there, well.
Speaker 1: You know what, that's what I wasn't gonna do. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of cast now. When he was doing singles,
Speaker 1: it'd be a lot of people that got classic songs, right,
Speaker 1: but they don't necessarily have classic albums. And that's just
Speaker 1: the other thing too.
Speaker 4: It's like these are when I was looking at the
Speaker 4: list and I'm coming up with my ideas, these are albums.
Speaker 4: So if it's got twelve songs, ten songs, eighteen songs,
Speaker 4: the all eighteen.
Speaker 1: Gotta be of the caliber of the other fifty albums.
Speaker 4: So like when you listen to, you know, music to
Speaker 4: drive by or the Chronic or death certificate. What songs
Speaker 4: are you cutting off those to say, oh, these aren't
Speaker 4: good songs, like you can't do it. Whereas some of
Speaker 4: the albums that didn't make my list, that might have
Speaker 4: been in the fifties or the sixties or the seventies,
Speaker 4: there's three or four songs, some of them maybe five
Speaker 4: songs where I love ten of them, but these other songs,
Speaker 4: I'm like, eh, I would miss them. Whereas on my
Speaker 4: top fifty and the higher you get, there's fewer and
Speaker 4: fewer instances where man, those three or four songs or
Speaker 4: we all know, some people be like, man, I only
Speaker 4: listen to the first half of the album.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't.
Speaker 3: Even when I wrote songs, man, I wasn't thinking about
Speaker 3: the other crowd. I was thinking about gang banging, niggas
Speaker 3: in the hood.
Speaker 1: Struggling, right, I never because they were focused.
Speaker 3: I didn't try to you know, Oh fuck it, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna get the white people, the Chinese, I'm gonna get
Speaker 3: the mass seekins. Nigga. I'm like nigga whoever struggling, can't
Speaker 3: get a job and over on the block every night
Speaker 3: selling got niggas enemy shooting at you. That's who I
Speaker 3: might music for because I'm Fella.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I feel you, man. And one thing I
Speaker 1: was gonna say before I forget on that thud Life album,
Speaker 1: I had the privilege actually hearing the unedited version because
Speaker 1: you know, Interscope butchered that album and it was really
Speaker 1: a short album too. Yeah, I was surprised, No, but
Speaker 1: they had a lot of songs that was took off
Speaker 1: of there, Like you gotta remember Spice one was on
Speaker 1: that motherfucker. They had songs with Spice. They had a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of shit that wasn't doing that because you
Speaker 1: gotta remember at that time, Interscope was scared than the motherfucker, right,
Speaker 1: You had a bunch of shit, Glen, and they was like, hey,
Speaker 1: oh no this motherfucker man. Sight played me that motherfucker Dog.
Speaker 1: We's on our way over to Dubai. We's in the
Speaker 1: plane and I heard the whole motherfucker, like, just all
Speaker 1: the songs from them sessions. Dog. They asked the dope
Speaker 1: ass motherfucker songs, Dog. Really, you got to hear a
Speaker 1: shell of what the album was. Hmm. That's too bad.
Speaker 3: They had some dope ass records.
Speaker 4: I wish I could have heard the real the intended version,
Speaker 4: intended version, you know what, man, and I had to
Speaker 4: put all lives on me on that dog.
Speaker 1: I actually went back and revisited that dog. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that should have been one album, to be honest
Speaker 1: with you. But they had a bunch of dope songs
Speaker 1: on there. Absolutely, And what was crazy is some of
Speaker 1: the most banging his songs on that album was really
Speaker 1: songs that was gonna be for dazz and Corrupt card
Speaker 1: Mine Made Up? Was Mine?
Speaker 3: Made Up?
Speaker 1: Was a dog Pound song? Makes sense. Dads was just
Speaker 1: on his ship at that time. Man, Dads is still
Speaker 1: a very underrated producer. I absolutely well, Like I have said,
Speaker 1: what would you do? Nothing but the Cavey hit, Dad's
Speaker 1: got some some hitters.
Speaker 3: Hege you ain't ever gotten the knee with dah Yeah,
Speaker 3: I've done. I gotta saw, I got a single. Me
Speaker 3: and Dads did a video and everything. When I was signed,
Speaker 3: the sony hit the floor. And then I was on
Speaker 3: Dazzer's album Retaliation, Revenge and get Back. That was a
Speaker 3: great alt. Him and uh Me, him and Badass got
Speaker 3: us all together.
Speaker 1: Retaliation, Revenge and get Back.
Speaker 3: The ultimate come up Nigga, Nigga, get out, get in
Speaker 3: get up, get your money.
Speaker 1: The hold on, man, every whole video is gonna be
Speaker 1: fucked up.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, Now, get in, get up, get
Speaker 3: your money. It's the ultimate come up. He'll slinging and
Speaker 3: banging all my con the fucker groundness, and you might
Speaker 3: be a doling nigga. Get out, get in, Get up.
Speaker 1: Well, man, I guess suh, that's it. I guess that's
Speaker 1: the end of the show for the night. We gonna
Speaker 1: check y'all off next week, man, you know Thanksgiving next week,
Speaker 1: so we still will have something in store for you
Speaker 1: special little tree. Were gonna put something together, real special, man,
Speaker 1: to get you through your holiday and everything else. Man,
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