Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this week Trend episode
Speaker 1: week Trend, I prefer the week trends oh reference to
Speaker 1: a twenty five year old SNL sketch. My name is
Speaker 1: Jack and I am thrilled to be joined by a
Speaker 1: very talented producer musician. He's one of the very producers
Speaker 1: of this show. It's Brian Jeffrey.
Speaker 2: Really, what's going on, Jack? How you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm doing all right, man, it's early, it's early, but yeah,
Speaker 1: how's your weekend. I'm healed up, I'm feeling better.
Speaker 2: Oh my end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, my kids sick, but that's just constant, constant
Speaker 1: state of things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, weekend was good. It was uneventful. It was It
Speaker 2: was filled with the music of contemplate black male artists
Speaker 2: in their forties, in the way of Danny Brown and
Speaker 2: Andre three thousand, So that that was my weekend.
Speaker 1: I didn't listen to the Danny Brown.
Speaker 2: Oh it's a low voice album. He brings, he brings
Speaker 2: the drama. There's none of this hype stuff on there. Really,
Speaker 2: he's very serious, he's very adult and he's going through
Speaker 2: it or he's been through it so well.
Speaker 1: We are going to talk about the Andre album in
Speaker 1: a bit, which is a true journey. Took me on
Speaker 1: a real journey.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: I've only listened to it a couple of times, but
Speaker 1: I think it will continue to evolve into a panther.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely in my rotation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But before we get to what's happening out there, Brian,
Speaker 1: we like to talk about something that we think is
Speaker 1: overrated and underrated. You want to start, you want me
Speaker 1: to kick it off.
Speaker 2: I can start, just because you know yours seems you
Speaker 2: know a little more thought out than mine. So for me, overrated,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm torn, I'm indecisive. I put a couple
Speaker 2: in here, so I'm just gonna I'm just gonna run
Speaker 2: run through those. So my first overrated is birthdays for adults.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with us.
Speaker 2: So my partner's birthday is coming up and we're trying
Speaker 2: to I'm just we're just I don't want to. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to navigate this this birthday. You know, we're
Speaker 2: both old, so we don't give a shit about our birthdays.
Speaker 2: But there's this nagging feeling of like some sort of
Speaker 2: obligation that you need to do something or go somewhere. Yea,
Speaker 2: And it's really tiresome because it's like we're just we're
Speaker 2: just sat here like I'm I'm just I'm just a
Speaker 2: lob and stuff at or like hey, you want to
Speaker 2: do this, you want to go here, and it's like,
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess we might as well. It's just
Speaker 2: like you know, we're we're both you know, basically like
Speaker 2: forty and have disposal incomes, and we just could not
Speaker 2: care less about how old we are or what we
Speaker 2: should be doing on our birthdays. And it's just like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like that's a concept that
Speaker 2: should die in like a Logan's Run esque kind of way,
Speaker 2: where once you hit a certain age, you just you
Speaker 2: stop getting birthdays or they're just sort of like lumped together,
Speaker 2: or they're just sort of periodic. There's a holiday for.
Speaker 1: All the people one yeah, yeah, but just like get
Speaker 1: out of there.
Speaker 2: After thirty you just have a birthday every ten years
Speaker 2: or something like that. I don't know, but it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it be helpful if culture was just like, no, that's
Speaker 2: after this age, you don't get birthdays, like after.
Speaker 1: Eighteen, what do we think after eighteen?
Speaker 2: Coup work? But like I feel like people in their
Speaker 2: twenties really like still get something out of.
Speaker 1: It, Yeah, still need it.
Speaker 2: It wasn't me personally, but yeah, I feel like I
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, Logan's Run rules, like like thirty,
Speaker 2: they hit you with the blue laser and you don't
Speaker 2: get any more birthdays.
Speaker 1: What happens in Logan's Run. I actually never watched.
Speaker 2: Well you can like you can like do whatever you're born,
Speaker 2: you can do whatever you want. I mean, there's I
Speaker 2: have a lot of questions about Logan's Run. I actually
Speaker 2: don't like that movie, but I find it fascinating because
Speaker 2: there's no black people, and the house the society works
Speaker 2: is real. They never they didn't flesh out the details,
Speaker 2: but basically, you're born, you can live free, you don't
Speaker 2: have to work, or you can bone all this stuff.
Speaker 2: And then when you hit thirty, they take you to
Speaker 2: the arena and they hit you with that laser or
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck it is, and then you're gone.
Speaker 1: They kill you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they get rid of your ass man all right,
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't think it's a terrible idea
Speaker 2: in certain aspects.
Speaker 1: Thirty is pretty young, but thirty is pretty young.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's a curious film to me. I
Speaker 2: always always found it a little odd. Second thing, just
Speaker 2: real quick, is new therapist because or overrated? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because you're not they themselves. But the whole process of
Speaker 2: not just finding one, but it's more after you found
Speaker 2: one that you think is viable, the whole process of
Speaker 2: catching them up on everything that's wrong with you. That
Speaker 2: is the fucking pain in the ass of like where
Speaker 2: do you start and then you only have an hour
Speaker 2: to like start catching them up and you gotta pick.
Speaker 2: It's just it's such a weird format. Me. Yeah, like,
Speaker 2: especially with a new therapist, there's so much wasted time.
Speaker 2: Tip to me of I wish, yeah, I wish you
Speaker 2: could like do like Matrix style, just download all your
Speaker 2: trauma into someone's brain so you don't have to like
Speaker 2: talk through it. You can just get down to brass tacks.
Speaker 2: It would just it would be so nice.
Speaker 1: If you will check your inbox. I've sent you twelve
Speaker 1: single space pages.
Speaker 2: Like a trauma dossier. So yeah, those are.
Speaker 1: My overrated all right, my overrated. I got a couple too.
Speaker 1: I got just current websites generally, I don't know that
Speaker 1: at a certain point I just expected accepted that websites
Speaker 1: were going to be bad. And that's weird because I
Speaker 1: used to work on a website and they don't have
Speaker 1: to be broken, and they like they used to work
Speaker 1: when there was a problem that people were facing, like
Speaker 1: an article page was broken, or like ads were choking
Speaker 1: out people's ability to like read an article, like you
Speaker 1: would then go talk to the people who worked on
Speaker 1: the programming side, and they would they would, you know,
Speaker 1: try and fix that, fix that. You know.
Speaker 2: It's funny, Jack, because I feel like it used to
Speaker 2: be like porn sites that were jammed up with ads
Speaker 2: and pop ups and stuff back in the day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: now it's news sites.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've just given up.
Speaker 2: The news sites are the new porn sites because man,
Speaker 2: they are just completely and it's fun. It's fun because
Speaker 2: it's like it's different when you're trying to, like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, watch porn for example, Like there's not a whole.
Speaker 1: Lot of many years. Let's be honest, that's what Let's say.
Speaker 1: For instance, I don't know, you're watching porn and.
Speaker 2: It's like there's no information in cotant information that that
Speaker 2: site's trying to impart. It's for entertainment purposes. But yeah,
Speaker 2: when you're trying to read an article and you got like,
Speaker 2: oh man, I mean, we've all seen it. It's just brutal.
Speaker 1: It's gotten so bad, it's so yeah, yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: a mess. I feel like we've just kind of given up,
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure. I don't know that there's a
Speaker 1: way to fix it necessarily other than I get I
Speaker 1: guess like the subscription sites but where you don't have
Speaker 1: ads are more usable. But it's truly it just at
Speaker 1: a certain point it got so bad and everyone was
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, that's that's just like what what the
Speaker 1: Internet is. And like a lot of times, like news
Speaker 1: sites are like you have an ad blocker on, you
Speaker 1: can't you can't come here, and that sucks for you.
Speaker 2: Is it just the advertisements or is are there design
Speaker 2: elements that are or I think.
Speaker 1: They just stopped paying a tent like they stopped it.
Speaker 1: Just the whole thing feels vastly understaffed. It's the Van
Speaker 1: Vaught of it all. Also, you know, I refer to
Speaker 1: frequently this article where I saw a headline on the
Speaker 1: side of a news article that said, it's no big
Speaker 1: secret why Van Vought no longer works in Hollywood. It
Speaker 1: was a picture of Vince Vaughan. They had outsourced the
Speaker 1: headline writing to AI, and it feels like a lot
Speaker 1: of different things have been outsourced to AI and we're
Speaker 1: just not acknowledging it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is from different from multiple angles, like quality.
Speaker 1: Drop, Yeah, the other one that's just kind of random.
Speaker 1: But crowd scenes and movies are I just watched the
Speaker 1: movie King Richard. My family's gone through a bit of
Speaker 1: a tennis thing at.
Speaker 2: The moment, a bit of a will Smith, a bit of.
Speaker 1: A will Smith phase. But the movie like ends with
Speaker 1: a climactic crowd scene that like doesn't really make sense.
Speaker 1: They're like leaving Venus Williams's first public match or like
Speaker 1: her first one that like people were like, wow, she's
Speaker 1: really good and she's sad because she ends up losing it.
Speaker 1: It's like a rocky you know, sports movie ending rocky
Speaker 1: shaped sports movie ending the right. But then as they leave,
Speaker 1: like the empty stadium at the end, there's this crowd
Speaker 1: of people in like an otherwise desolate landscape, like an
Speaker 1: empty parking lot. So they've like, I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: like car commercial, empty the landscape. But then this inexpicable
Speaker 1: crowd that seems like there's something from like a video game,
Speaker 1: are just there being like Venus, Venus, Venus over here
Speaker 1: for an autograph, Venus. Hurrah for you, Venus. We are
Speaker 1: your fans, Venus. I was watching with my wife. She's like,
Speaker 1: who are wait, what's happening? Who are these people? And
Speaker 1: it's like it's been a pretty solid movie to that point,
Speaker 1: but it's just like it's the like all and the
Speaker 1: performances by the crowd are like really bad. They don't
Speaker 1: really make sense. They're like, like what Serena, who is
Speaker 1: not yet a known tennis player, like gives somebody an autograph.
Speaker 1: They're like, you two, Serena, And then she gives someone
Speaker 1: an autograph and like someone like pumps their fist even
Speaker 1: though they like wouldn't know who her little sister is.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I've just been noticing this
Speaker 1: a lot, Like, as I mentioned, we were going through
Speaker 1: like a thriller phase. We just watched in the Line
Speaker 1: of Fire and there's this like key scene in a
Speaker 1: presidential campaign stop where like John Malcovich fools Clint Eastwood
Speaker 1: with a popped balloon, and it's like part of the
Speaker 1: thing that drives it is like that he's in the
Speaker 1: middle of this like frantic crowd, but the crowd is
Speaker 1: like doesn't make sense. It's just people in suits with
Speaker 1: like wooden expressions on their face, just like rushing the
Speaker 1: president for no good reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, directing crowds must be a real pain in the ass.
Speaker 2: There's just way too many, way too many particles in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, there's too much, too much to control for.
Speaker 1: But it feels it just feels like there's a huge
Speaker 1: gap between the like writing and like conception of a
Speaker 1: crowd scene and then like what they they are apparently
Speaker 1: a nightmare to pull off because especially movies where we're
Speaker 1: like rewatching things on high def and you're gonna get
Speaker 1: just like, have you ever rewatched the movie Braveheart purpose?
Speaker 2: Not on purpose? I have seen it multiple times, but
Speaker 2: never of my own volition.
Speaker 1: That was like the movie that substitute Teachers showed in
Speaker 1: Kentucky when like with you know, I probably watch Braveheart
Speaker 1: like multiple times through in high school.
Speaker 2: Mel Gibson's historical films famously have a real problem with accuracy.
Speaker 1: So interesting choice, Yeah exactly, But like the crowd battle scenes,
Speaker 1: it just looks, I don't know, it looks like he
Speaker 1: hired a hundred just dudes off the street. They're like
Speaker 1: running into certain death. But they have like these like
Speaker 1: smiles on their faces, like loll, Like you can see
Speaker 1: the word loll on their faces.
Speaker 2: Like, well, that's because that's because he hired them for
Speaker 2: their butts, for what their butts?
Speaker 1: Like that's true. Yeah, must show ass. You can just tell.
Speaker 1: Some of these motherfuckers have Snapple in their bodies, like
Speaker 1: just around there, like they.
Speaker 2: Just came from the fucking the craft services tent just
Speaker 2: full of Snapple.
Speaker 1: It's just so much Snapple. And they're supposed to be
Speaker 1: like surfs in a feudal era of anyways. But yeah,
Speaker 1: those are my overrated. Uh, what's your what's your underrated? Brian?
Speaker 2: All right? Underrated? The did I put? Okay? First, one
Speaker 2: water pressure, water pressure and just generally, like you know,
Speaker 2: the modern marvel of plumbing. So I live in a
Speaker 2: place where the water pressure frequently drops to an unacceptable
Speaker 2: level and I have to take one of those one
Speaker 2: of those showers. I don't know if you're familiar, Jack,
Speaker 2: where you kind of basically have to like almost lean
Speaker 2: up against a leaky wall.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you're going just cover the wall with your
Speaker 1: body's grip over you.
Speaker 2: It probably looks like some weird sexy music video from
Speaker 2: the nineties. Unseatisfied?
Speaker 1: What is he doing to that wall? Something who just
Speaker 1: like happens on you know, my god?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's it's one of those things that you
Speaker 2: don't really appre and it's it's like, I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: moving next year to like a new place, and it's
Speaker 2: it's that's one of the things me and my partner
Speaker 2: that is top of the list is water pressure. But
Speaker 2: a bathroom with killer water pressure. So yeah, that's that's
Speaker 2: one underrated for me. And then another tangentially related thing
Speaker 2: is self imposed exile h slash solitude. So I've been
Speaker 2: in basically self imposed exile for like five years. Yeah,
Speaker 2: something you may not know.
Speaker 1: After you tried to take over the government.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a whole thing. But basically I've been sorting
Speaker 2: my life out and just staying at home a lot,
Speaker 2: and I've gotten a lot of stuff done. Yeah, I've
Speaker 2: worked on my mental health, I've taken my poor credit
Speaker 2: up to quite good. And yeah, just taking time for
Speaker 2: yourself to the extreme doesn't have to be a terrible
Speaker 2: thing at least no. Yeah, because yeah, now now I'm
Speaker 2: now I'm ready to get back out there and interact
Speaker 2: with people.
Speaker 1: And yeah, not Americans, but yeah, I was gonna say
Speaker 1: just generally, I think it's a worthy experiment for everyone
Speaker 1: to try and take, like some time if you were
Speaker 1: born and raised in the United States, to try and
Speaker 1: take some time away from the United States and like
Speaker 1: go through the like your your body may reject it at.
Speaker 2: First, but it definitely does.
Speaker 1: There will be a quietness, a quieting of the soul
Speaker 1: that takes place, and when you come back, we'll see
Speaker 1: things in a new light that some of the things
Speaker 1: that you just kind of take for granted having grown
Speaker 1: up in the United States, you like start to see
Speaker 1: as being like weird and artificially sped up and yeah,
Speaker 1: just dark impulses. But you don't have to partake in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many things that when you step away
Speaker 2: and you come back, you're like whoa, like everything and
Speaker 2: it's just like, okay, this doesn't make any sense, and
Speaker 2: I just yeah, just taking away, it turns out a
Speaker 2: lot of my stressors, yeah, were.
Speaker 1: I hate.
Speaker 2: I hate that this is true, but a lot of
Speaker 2: my stressors kind of boiled down to America problems. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because my stress levels are an all time low. The
Speaker 2: range of of of strong emotions has narrowed, and I'm
Speaker 2: just I feel more balanced. Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely was somebody who in my twenties and
Speaker 1: this isn't like how I come across like publicly, but
Speaker 1: I think like privately, almost yeah, almost exclusively privately. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm an angry person because I'm very like
Speaker 1: angry at myself and like very hard on myself when
Speaker 1: I like fall short, and yeah, would there would be
Speaker 1: uh you know, little temper tantrums I would have with myself,
Speaker 1: like at myself, and I just like kind of taken
Speaker 1: that for granted as like that's who I am. That's
Speaker 1: just yeah, doesn't mean to be.
Speaker 2: It really doesn't. He don't have to be like an
Speaker 2: angry person. It's just yeah, finding out what what what
Speaker 2: it is. That's like getting under your skin, yeah, and
Speaker 2: seeing what you can do to work with that or
Speaker 2: alleviate that or remove that from your life. Uh yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it does wonders for your mental health.
Speaker 1: Let's see from my underrated I have like a page
Speaker 1: and a half on the digestive system.
Speaker 2: Which I was like so on board for.
Speaker 1: So first of all, nothing makes you appreciate something like
Speaker 1: having it just like go out on you. Like my
Speaker 1: digestive system stopped Yeah, exactly, My digesticism stopped working for
Speaker 1: a few uh last last week, and it was unpleasant.
Speaker 1: And also the other thing that has like put this
Speaker 1: the front and the center of my mind is one
Speaker 1: of my kids is obsessed with the digestive systems, like
Speaker 1: just with digest like of all, Like I find him
Speaker 1: reading about digestive systems all the time, like if there's
Speaker 1: a science book in the house about animals or like
Speaker 1: the human body.
Speaker 2: Like how do you fit that many miles of intestines
Speaker 2: in a person? It's incredible?
Speaker 1: How many? Yeah? Yeah, but he if you leave him
Speaker 1: alone with uh you know something that is attached to Google,
Speaker 1: well you better believe he is looking at the digestive
Speaker 1: system like getting all up in them guts, so to speak,
Speaker 1: with his mind, with his curious child's mind. And like
Speaker 1: at first, I like chalked it up to you know,
Speaker 1: both of my kids are I think poop is funny
Speaker 1: and are kind of talk about poop all the time.
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is just like a more
Speaker 1: intellectual approach to being obsessed with poop. But I also
Speaker 1: think that like the reason most kids and like most
Speaker 1: humans find poop funny, like at our most elemental level,
Speaker 1: like I think, you know, humor is like us realizing
Speaker 1: something or coming to terms with something that we can't
Speaker 1: like grasp with our conscious mind. And you know there's
Speaker 1: like anxiety or like a magic or something that's unexamined.
Speaker 1: But I think it's because it like deserves that attention,
Speaker 1: Like it deserves that power. It's like a massively powerful,
Speaker 1: incredible system inside of all of us that does something
Speaker 1: that I feel like no human invention can really rival.
Speaker 1: Like it takes our delicious food. First of all, it
Speaker 1: like craves exactly the food the fuel that like your
Speaker 1: body needs. It's in control. You don't realize it is complete.
Speaker 1: It's got a lot of neurons firing off down there,
Speaker 1: It's got taste buds down in your stomach, and then
Speaker 1: it uses chemical compounds to like turn that fuel that
Speaker 1: it craves and like goes like helps you go about
Speaker 1: acquiring into life. But like not in like a whimsical way.
Speaker 1: It's so like wet and sloppy and like alive. It's
Speaker 1: like a drive through car wash made of like blood
Speaker 1: and acid and mud and bile. And then also just
Speaker 1: like from an existential like lived experience, it's the part
Speaker 1: of our human experience that is most ground like you
Speaker 1: feel the big important ideas like a lot of times
Speaker 1: for me, it's like ideas my brain isn't ready for yet.
Speaker 1: I feel them in my gut, you know. And like
Speaker 1: what we today call like having feelings for someone, they
Speaker 1: used to call having bowels for someone because people in
Speaker 1: history were nasty, little shit freaks. I know exactly, I
Speaker 1: have bowls for you, baby, But it's kind of like
Speaker 1: for me at least in my lived experience, is kind
Speaker 1: of the most grounded, immovable part of my felt human experience.
Speaker 1: Like when I have anxiety about something unresolved, my brain
Speaker 1: can distract itself with bullshit, but my guts, like you know,
Speaker 1: they don't untangle so easily. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's interesting and yeah, so I don't know. I like
Speaker 1: to look at the things like my ds are into
Speaker 1: and think heavily about them. So next week you will
Speaker 1: get a you know, three hour treatise on Star Wars.
Speaker 1: I guess all right, those are our overrated and underrated
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk about some news and we're bank. We're bank. Leave
Speaker 1: it all right. I've heard of Sam Bankman free, but
Speaker 1: Sam Altman fired. So this is one of AI's big
Speaker 1: dogs in the world of like the companies that are
Speaker 1: using AI that are like fueling a big chunk of
Speaker 1: the growth in the stock market. He's also kind of
Speaker 1: the spokesperson. There's that Atlantic article that was extremely long
Speaker 1: and basically he was like a I might kill us
Speaker 1: all terminator style, and he was kind of the main
Speaker 1: source in that article. It was like kind of a
Speaker 1: feature on him. He's like going from one meeting to
Speaker 1: another around the world just being like, yeah, it's really
Speaker 1: scary man, Like it's you know, he told The New
Speaker 1: Yorker that he kept a Cyanide capsule on him in
Speaker 1: case of an AI takeover based like just in case,
Speaker 1: like like an AI takeover in the style of Mitchell's
Speaker 1: Versus the Machines or I robot is like one of
Speaker 1: the dangers of artificial intelligence.
Speaker 2: That's that's how you know this guy's a chuckle fuck.
Speaker 2: It's like we literally AI literally doesn't exist yet. But
Speaker 2: your car you got that thing on you?
Speaker 1: Okay, but yes, yeah, exactly, like he's.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, he.
Speaker 1: Of all people knows. The longer this story goes, the
Speaker 1: more it becomes clear that this was a situation. So
Speaker 1: he was unexpectedly fired by the board of the company
Speaker 1: open Ai. There's been stories where like five hundred of
Speaker 1: the seven hundred employees of the company are like, if
Speaker 1: you don't bring him back, we quit. So he's obviously
Speaker 1: very popular at the company, but it seems like the
Speaker 1: board was saying, we should pump the brakes on some
Speaker 1: of this stuff, and he was more of a racing,
Speaker 1: full throttle forward with just trying to develop this into
Speaker 1: something that was, uh, you know, easier to make money
Speaker 1: off of, which again seems is funny because.
Speaker 2: Write that letter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's part of part of the letter. He's the one.
Speaker 1: He's Sinai capsule guy. And apparently the board found out
Speaker 1: he was like hiding things, are not being totally candid
Speaker 1: and yeah, so Microsoft has hired him, right, yeah a
Speaker 1: write up and was like, yes, he's going to lead
Speaker 1: a later division of our company. And uh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to learn more about what the nature
Speaker 1: of the disagreement is. But I feel like the market
Speaker 1: is doing the thing that we like. Anytime someone's like, well,
Speaker 1: the market will figure it out, right, I'm always like,
Speaker 1: this is this is how the market will work. It
Speaker 1: will reward whoever is the most ambitious about making the
Speaker 1: most money off of a thing in the most short
Speaker 1: sighted way possible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, there's no altruism in capitalism. It's not
Speaker 2: a fucking thing. Everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. They would end the world, I mean,
Speaker 1: and have shown this repeatedly with you know, fossil fuel
Speaker 1: companies being at the forefront of climate change research in
Speaker 1: the eighties and then being at the forefront of burying
Speaker 1: the shit out of that. So yeah, but Microsoft said
Speaker 1: that mister Altman would be chief executive of the new
Speaker 1: research Lab, setting a new pace for innovation in an
Speaker 1: apparent contrast at the Open Air boards desire for caution
Speaker 1: in developing AI technology. So we'll yeah.
Speaker 2: Because Microsoft was so so thirsty to get their AI
Speaker 2: tools out, their little co pilot thing, they're going full
Speaker 2: steam ahead, and yeah, I'm sure they're glad they have
Speaker 2: on somebody who's let's it say, they're trying to race
Speaker 2: full throttle.
Speaker 1: Forward, Yeah, into the breach.
Speaker 2: So it seems like a good match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm happy for them.
Speaker 2: I love that for them, love that for us.
Speaker 1: Who cares about us? As long as Microsoft makes money,
Speaker 1: you know that'll be fun, all right? Brian, you are
Speaker 1: a musician. I it's you were a musician temporarily on hiatus.
Speaker 1: But I missed the episodes where you guys talked about
Speaker 1: Andre's new album, Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your Digestive System.
Speaker 1: It was I was busy thinking about my digestive system.
Speaker 1: But Andrea dropped an album that when I first listened
Speaker 1: to it, I was like, this is spa music. But
Speaker 1: then like, there would be these moments where I was like, God,
Speaker 1: that would be like so cool if someone like sampled that,
Speaker 1: like wrapped over it and turned it into the type
Speaker 1: of music I like. But as the album went on,
Speaker 1: and as I listened to it a second time, I
Speaker 1: was like, I he has transcended rap music and death
Speaker 1: and the only true form is flute. Here. It's it's trippy,
Speaker 1: it's it's very interesting. It's definitely not the type of
Speaker 1: shit that I would normally be listening to. My wife
Speaker 1: found me listening to it was like, what are you
Speaker 1: listening to?
Speaker 2: Oh? Nothing? Nothing like getting walking on while you're doing
Speaker 2: some new age.
Speaker 1: I was shirtless with one cloth on, sitting in Indian style. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what what are your what are your thoughts? How
Speaker 1: did it kind of compare to your expectations?
Speaker 2: So my first listen, and yeah, expectations is an important word,
Speaker 2: because I had a not dissimilar reaction from you. Of
Speaker 2: I didn't go immediately to Spa music, but I was
Speaker 2: there was this whole battle in my head of when
Speaker 2: it first came on, and it has those really nice
Speaker 2: little chords going, and I was like, My first thought
Speaker 2: was like, Yo, you chopped this up, right, you chopped
Speaker 2: this up. You got a beat going. And I was like,
Speaker 2: and after maybe like ten minutes, you know, letting the
Speaker 2: song develop, that left my mind and I started to
Speaker 2: become absorbed in the music itself. Another thought that crossed
Speaker 2: my mind in the first track was this reminds me
Speaker 2: of music from Zelda, from the last two Zelda games,
Speaker 2: like when you're going like when you're chilling in you know,
Speaker 2: for my Zelda heads, when you're chilling in Latino Village
Speaker 2: just just to hang out with all the lovely people there,
Speaker 2: and that feeling you get of peace when you're in
Speaker 2: Jatino Village that's kind of what it reminded me of too,
Speaker 2: And then all of that gradually melted away as the
Speaker 2: album developed, and I started to sort of accept it
Speaker 2: as it is on its own terms and sort of
Speaker 2: forgetting that it's made by this, you know, one of
Speaker 2: the greatest rappers of all time. And yeah, just it
Speaker 2: ended up being what I think is just a really
Speaker 2: earnest expression and a good genre piece. Like it's solid
Speaker 2: ambient ish music. There's like an element of like free
Speaker 2: jazz and you know, like Alice Coletraine type stuff. But yeah,
Speaker 2: i'd put it firmly in the ambient camp and not
Speaker 2: like eno ambient. But yeah, it's it's great. I went
Speaker 2: and got a massage on Friday the day came.
Speaker 1: That's the real test. That's what I'm gonna this is.
Speaker 1: This has to be good for the massage business. Just
Speaker 1: a round a Aaronae.
Speaker 2: That's what I just said of, you know, about it
Speaker 2: being like this thing. Yeah, I did go to the
Speaker 2: spa immediately, literally almost immediately, and got a ninety minute
Speaker 2: massage and listened to the whole album and it was
Speaker 2: it was fit for purpose. Let me tell you it
Speaker 2: was great. It was. It was a fantastic audio journey
Speaker 2: for a massage and just sort of like letting your
Speaker 2: mind just go like where it wants to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good. It's a good just kind of
Speaker 1: doing nothing. You know, if you're into meditation, this is
Speaker 1: probably a good one to fuck with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just sitting peacefully staring out the window, staring at
Speaker 2: the ceiling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take another quick break. We'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll tell you what Snoop was really meaning when he
Speaker 1: said he's giving up smoke. We'll be right back, and
Speaker 1: we're back, And a lot of the stories in this
Speaker 1: section can be summed up by the noise Brian may
Speaker 1: as we were going to break. So, first of all,
Speaker 1: a well executed marketing stunt, Snoop saying I'm giving up
Speaker 1: smoke please, but doing a kind of note perfect recreation
Speaker 1: of what it would look like if he was actually
Speaker 1: saying I have a problem please, Like, because he asked
Speaker 1: to for people to respect us privacy this time, at
Speaker 1: this time, him and his family's privacy. And it has
Speaker 1: been revealed that this was part of It's not even
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ad. It's just like a an ad.
Speaker 1: He said, Uh, the only thing because I think we've
Speaker 1: been saying that we suspected it was going to be
Speaker 1: for a vape product or like a gummy's product or
Speaker 1: something like that. And the only thing we were wrong
Speaker 1: about is it's not a weed It's not for a
Speaker 1: weed product. It's for basically a gas fireplace, like a
Speaker 1: little smokeless fireplace.
Speaker 2: It's like a little trash can you can set of
Speaker 2: fire in your back.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, miniature trash can.
Speaker 2: A miniature trash can that you and your barbershop quartet
Speaker 2: can sing around when it gets cold at night.
Speaker 1: Yes, that you have the fingerless gloves and a little
Speaker 1: bendal yeah, little bendlestick, and that you're unshaven to the
Speaker 1: right degree. Yes, you can warm your little hands around
Speaker 1: this fire and sing doo up. But a lot of
Speaker 1: people are like this was well played, and a lot
Speaker 1: of other people are like, I'm so tired. That's what
Speaker 1: it feels like to me. It just feels like, you know,
Speaker 1: capitalism is good at capitalism, you know, like there's just
Speaker 1: there's always this is what the you know, top grads
Speaker 1: from some of America's and you know other countries humanitarian
Speaker 1: humanities programs go into.
Speaker 2: Is like in the world they're working in advertising marketing
Speaker 2: exactly straight up, and they're making your shampoo, yes.
Speaker 1: And they're calculating the best mouth feel for junk food,
Speaker 1: so you can't stop you. Yeah, that's or they're working
Speaker 1: in fucking you know, hedge funds and other markets and
Speaker 1: shit like that. I don't know if that's true anymore.
Speaker 1: It definitely was true ten years ago. I do feel
Speaker 1: like people have like been like fuck this at a
Speaker 1: certain point, So hopefully we stop with everybody just going
Speaker 1: into the worst possible industries. But yeah, it's hard to
Speaker 1: be mad at Snoop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Snoop, especially in you know, the last
Speaker 2: ten years. Snoop doesn't do anything unless there's a check involved,
Speaker 2: and it doesn't really seem to matter, like where the
Speaker 2: check is coming from. Like he just likes to get paid,
Speaker 2: and he will pull up for paycheck, yeah, full stop.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And you look at him here in his picture roasting
Speaker 2: his little marshmallow over his trash can, and he looks
Speaker 2: so happy and stoned.
Speaker 1: That's right, Like when.
Speaker 2: That wire hit the bank.
Speaker 1: Can we get the moment when the wire hit the
Speaker 1: bank account in this ad? All right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Perfect? Yeah, he also lights the marshmallow on fire, which
Speaker 1: will cause smoke. But that's other than that.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you're gonna get a little I mean,
Speaker 2: but hey, you want a little carbonation on the marshmallow, Yeah,
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 1: Another news story that kind of made me tired was
Speaker 1: this Bill Clinton fucking up the memorial statement for Rosalind Carter.
Speaker 1: Roslynd Carter, won half of the longest lived presidential couple
Speaker 1: in American history, died on Sunday, and she was ninety six.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter, who went into hospice almost a year ago,
Speaker 1: is still alive. But Bill Clinton like posted a statement
Speaker 1: He's like Rosalind Carter was the embodiment of a life
Speaker 1: lived with purpose. Mine Hillary's full statement, and then it
Speaker 1: was a jpeg of their statement for the passing of
Speaker 1: Dianne Feinstein. So his people just got two different dead
Speaker 1: elderly women confused uploaded the statement that had already been
Speaker 1: posted about Feinstein, was deleted obviously replaced with the correct statement.
Speaker 1: But like, I don't know, it's just one of those
Speaker 1: things that's like just imagining the machinations of the behind
Speaker 1: the scene of like all right, post the state, you know,
Speaker 1: he process.
Speaker 2: This is why This is why you don't let Bill
Speaker 2: manage his on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Right, I can't imagine it was, but like what it
Speaker 1: was even doing here? He has like a staff with
Speaker 1: various statements on deck for deaths of famous people, and it's.
Speaker 2: Just hasn't hasn't this happened before? I feel like this
Speaker 2: happened before, like maybe years ago, a year or two ago,
Speaker 2: like somebody died, and I feel like this is just
Speaker 2: a thing that politicians do, especially like when there's like
Speaker 2: you know, like a shooting or something. It's like they
Speaker 2: have these copy paste things. Just they have a folder
Speaker 2: of oh, here's the statement for a shooting. Here's a
Speaker 2: statement for when an old senator dies, here's yeah.
Speaker 1: It's just yeah there. I mean, news agencies for sure
Speaker 1: all have like obituaries for most famous people on deck.
Speaker 1: And then like I remember when I worked at ABC
Speaker 1: News when I was you know, right out of school.
Speaker 1: They I think the Pope, I think it was the
Speaker 1: Pope died and they you know, had one on deck,
Speaker 1: but like you had to like make sure that he
Speaker 1: was actually dead before you posted it. And you know,
Speaker 1: they have like an entire TV package on deck, and
Speaker 1: like sometimes they accidentally run it before somebody has died,
Speaker 1: and then people are like, wait a second, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know the fact that also the Clintons have
Speaker 1: like these statements drafted for deaths, and it's just like
Speaker 1: such a dry, rote pointless exercise in like in humanity
Speaker 1: and for what, like are people sitting around waiting for
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton's thoughts on this?
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they obligations or and you know, the quorum
Speaker 2: are weird. Yeah, and they don't really make a whole
Speaker 2: lot of sense a lot of the time. Yeah, of like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're not checking for you, but I mean, you gotta
Speaker 2: like you're part of this institution, so I get it
Speaker 2: that you gotta make a statement because you're a former
Speaker 2: president that's alive, I guess. But yeah, a little more
Speaker 2: effort maybe, right, Yeah, maybe yeah, maybe get the name right, putting.
Speaker 1: More staff on them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe get the name right.
Speaker 1: That'll be funny if they reposted it. But it was
Speaker 1: just like control all control, f like for a place
Speaker 1: the exact same thing.
Speaker 2: Oh good, all right.
Speaker 1: SpaceX had their second starship tests launch kind of losing track.
Speaker 1: You know, I've seen footage of uh SpaceX starships that
Speaker 1: launch and land and successfully I guess these are these
Speaker 1: are the ones that are they're testing because they're going
Speaker 1: to make the Moon mission. So this is the second
Speaker 1: after the first one like blew up right after it
Speaker 1: took off, and they were like, yes, that is what
Speaker 1: we meant to do. They did like the rocketry equivalent
Speaker 1: of like tripping and breaking into a light jog to
Speaker 1: pretend like that's what you didn't trip and you meant
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: There. It's like there's a mandate that they're not allowed
Speaker 2: to have like failures or failure is part of the
Speaker 2: plan or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they they're meant to fail every time. So that
Speaker 1: another successful launch on over the weekend, because once again
Speaker 1: the ship blew up just minutes after launch, but it
Speaker 1: improved on the previous launch. Still ended in literal disaster.
Speaker 2: It improved on the previous launch by exploding.
Speaker 1: Later exactly that's exactly.
Speaker 2: Right, didn't explode immediately, So this is progress.
Speaker 1: It illustrated that they had fixed key issues from the
Speaker 1: last test. This person astro Geordy Jordan a blue check mark.
Speaker 1: You will be shocked to learn response to the Verge
Speaker 1: article being like you forgot to mention that everything that
Speaker 1: went wrong in the first test flight from a few
Speaker 1: months ago went right. Today we expect explosions and during
Speaker 1: these test flights, we are okay with them. SpaceX is
Speaker 1: making history no matter what, and they're doing incredible work.
Speaker 2: Now, Astro Jordy, first off, get off the nut sex.
Speaker 2: You don't even go here, like.
Speaker 1: That's what I So I looked it up. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's such a weird and articulate statement from somebody who
Speaker 1: works for SpaceX.
Speaker 2: You know you have Astro in your name. I'm like,
Speaker 2: there's no way you work for sucking face X, sir.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay. According to his Twitter handle he or his
Speaker 1: Twitter bio, he's just a h what what's the what's
Speaker 1: the truck? The the cyber He's just a cyber truck fanboy.
Speaker 2: And uh oh you're a fan of this thing that
Speaker 2: doesn't exist. Okay, cool, and that that that gives you
Speaker 2: an opinion on literal rocket science.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but so the rocket of the booster separate. But
Speaker 1: I do love the invocation. You know, sports fans do this,
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna be too hard on him. But
Speaker 1: it's the same energy this and we are on course.
Speaker 1: It's just like such, you are not going to the moon.
Speaker 2: Sir, you don't have.
Speaker 1: To take He is doing this specifically to leave you behind.
Speaker 2: He's like he's vying for like a test subject physician
Speaker 2: in one any of Elon's company. Hey, bro, you can
Speaker 2: put a chip in me. You can send me to
Speaker 2: the moon, you can send me on a rocket to
Speaker 2: the Sun. I don't care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So they were hoping for a water landing instead
Speaker 1: the booster separated, then exploded, and the starship actually reached
Speaker 1: space this time, and then they lost contact with a
Speaker 1: ship just minutes after launch, and apparently it exploded too
Speaker 1: after the automated flight termination system triggered. So that's like
Speaker 1: they have an automated like will self destruct in five seconds.
Speaker 1: But so people just kept referring to this as like, well,
Speaker 1: this is all about the cultural differences between SpaceX and
Speaker 1: traditional NASA engineering, because NASA like will always design things
Speaker 1: to perfection before testing them out, and SpaceX says their
Speaker 1: motto is build, test, break, repeat. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: think that's I don't I don't know enough about like
Speaker 1: these systems are like that.
Speaker 2: Well remember the Challenger disaster, right, So that was back
Speaker 2: when NASA got a little cavalier with their testing methodology right,
Speaker 2: and then a school teacher blew up along with like
Speaker 2: five or six other people. So yeah, after that, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like NASA was very They're all about their testing
Speaker 2: and then they're like, you know what, we got this.
Speaker 2: We've been to the moon a few times. We're good.
Speaker 2: Eighties came around, they had a disaster.
Speaker 1: Have you guys seen Apollo thirteen. I know it's not
Speaker 1: out yet, but like, we're NASA, We've seen it. That's
Speaker 1: we can't fuck up. We're invincible. And yeah, no, they
Speaker 1: knew that. That shit. Like there was a big panel
Speaker 1: of people who were in charge of like making the
Speaker 1: decision of whether or not to launch the Challenger, and
Speaker 1: a majority of them knew that what happened to the
Speaker 1: Challenger had a very good chance of happening ring.
Speaker 2: It was totally they they were they had a they
Speaker 2: had a fucking clue before it happened. Yeah, and yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's what happens when you are cavalier with with
Speaker 2: safety in inhospitable environments and situations like going deep into
Speaker 2: the ocean to see the Titanic, or going into space,
Speaker 2: or lighting a massive explosion underneath you and sending it
Speaker 2: out to a tiny little butthole at the bottom of
Speaker 2: a rocket. Cool, like they like to move fast and
Speaker 2: break things. They're taking that tech ethos into a space,
Speaker 2: well part in the pun, into a space where I
Speaker 2: don't really think it belongs. But you know he's got
Speaker 2: he's got the capital and the clout and to do
Speaker 2: this sort of thing. And NASA's backing private industries going
Speaker 2: to space because they don't get enough funding to do
Speaker 2: it themselves exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's in fashion for us to be like
Speaker 1: the market will figure it out.
Speaker 2: Plus it's like, you know, if something goes wrong, you know,
Speaker 2: NASA doesn't have to take this scrutiny. Yeah a rocket
Speaker 2: blows up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, thank you for putting the you know,
Speaker 1: physics of rocketry into the terms of a digestive system
Speaker 1: where the rocket is just farting itself into space. That
Speaker 1: that was helpful for my purposes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, how do you how do you how
Speaker 2: do you fart fire without exploding yourself?
Speaker 1: I ask myself that every day. But also so like
Speaker 1: I can't identify I can't say whether it's like a
Speaker 1: good strategy, like whether they're identifying more potential flaws then
Speaker 1: NASA would be with its pencil neck math or whatever
Speaker 1: it does. But it does seem like it will be
Speaker 1: a little scarier to go up in one of these
Speaker 1: rockets once they've got it figured out. Like this is
Speaker 1: a private enterprise. If Delta Airlines method for introducing a
Speaker 1: new aircraft was to like blow a bunch of them
Speaker 1: up in highly public test plates before you boarded one
Speaker 1: a decade later, I feel like people would be like,
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna like fly American or whatever. This scary.
Speaker 1: I'm scared now, But.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is how he does things.
Speaker 2: Is like, I mean you can you have to look
Speaker 2: at Tesla's to see it's like, yeah, you don't need
Speaker 2: like a fully working, viable product that does everything it
Speaker 2: says on the tin to sell a shit zillion of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah too, whoever the fuck is really vying for them,
Speaker 2: because it's like, yeah, that that car is not no
Speaker 2: matter how you feel about it, that car is not
Speaker 2: what was fucking promised, no at all. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't want to see the finished I don't want to
Speaker 2: be on the finished product.
Speaker 1: So don't tell that to astro Jordi. The problems with
Speaker 1: the cyber truck are exactly what we had in mind.
Speaker 2: And it's also like design stuff like you ever tried
Speaker 2: to get in a Tesla?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like the like the what the fuck is that?
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, this innovation didn't need to happen. You
Speaker 2: try and drive a Tesla, Like, what is that yoke
Speaker 2: where it's got like five hundred and forty degree rotation
Speaker 2: but you can only hold it on two sides? That
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense, like at all, the yoke. I'm not
Speaker 2: like those weird steering wheels.
Speaker 1: They have the steering wheels that don't have the They
Speaker 1: do the full.
Speaker 2: Steering wheel turn, but there's no top and bottom, so
Speaker 2: you have to awkwardly like and it's like you make
Speaker 2: the turning radius shorter if you have a yoke, or
Speaker 2: you put in a real steering wheel. You don't mix
Speaker 2: those things.
Speaker 1: It's the future. It feels like the future, And.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what's his what is like? What are the
Speaker 2: quality of life features gonna be in this fucking rocket?
Speaker 2: Like it is the rocket gonna have a steering wheel?
Speaker 2: Because that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just like doing three point turns. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: So I don't know, we'll see I generally have a
Speaker 1: hard time believing that this philosophy of just like blowing
Speaker 1: massive amounts of metal and jet fuel up and pretending
Speaker 1: it's what you intended to do. And also like, because
Speaker 1: of the ties to NASA, pressure has been put on
Speaker 1: the FAA and the US Fish and Wildlife Service to
Speaker 1: just say that if these test launchers are okay, which
Speaker 1: they do despite incidents of flaming debris landing in public
Speaker 1: wildlife preserves, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's just like, oh my god. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: like they've already like Floyd has already given him a
Speaker 2: free pass. Basically, they've already set it up that when
Speaker 2: one of these you know, second stage rockets lands on
Speaker 2: someone's fucking condo, that he will not have to answer
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 1: They'll just drop a glass dome over it. I feel
Speaker 1: like that's that's where it will happen, meant that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And actually we're cutting all these people off not for
Speaker 1: to kill them and replace them, but because we want
Speaker 1: to study them because it's helpful to future launches. All Right,
Speaker 1: those are some of the things that we're trending over
Speaker 1: the weekend that are trending this Monday morning. We are
Speaker 1: back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show.
Speaker 1: Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves,
Speaker 1: get the vaccine, don't do nothing about white supremacy, and
Speaker 1: we will talk to you all tomorrow. Fighte bye.