Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tama Judge.
Speaker 2: By guys, Welcome to another episode with myself, Teddy Mellencamp
Speaker 2: and Tamar Judge. Hi camera, Happy belated Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3: I know it looked like you had a good time.
Speaker 2: We had such a good time. It was the perfect
Speaker 2: amount of time. Like with family, you know, you're like
Speaker 2: a couple of days and then you're like, Okay, we're
Speaker 2: out of here. Even though the travel days were long,
Speaker 2: it's the first time I've traveled in a long time
Speaker 2: where there was no delays, no shit, Like it was
Speaker 2: just like we went from one plane to the next
Speaker 2: and nice. That's that's unheard of right now, I know,
Speaker 2: so out Yeah, and dev was a perfect traveler. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, welcome to the family, Dove. You're allowed to stay.
Speaker 4: You can stay another year, another year, you know, our
Speaker 4: mellow I was like, oh, you know, it's going to
Speaker 4: be like no big deal for Thanksgiving because it's just
Speaker 4: me at a Sophia and Spencer.
Speaker 3: And it ended up being so funny.
Speaker 4: We had like the craziest conversations during dinner, and I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't want to get too much into it, but
Speaker 4: they were each conparing their text messages they got from
Speaker 4: their father. No one was the same, No one was
Speaker 4: a gift Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: Doesn't he send the gifts to everybody that's in his
Speaker 2: contact list?
Speaker 3: Pretty much?
Speaker 4: And that was the spencer into Sophia.
Speaker 3: It was a very long novel.
Speaker 4: And mind you, he doesn't have a relationship right now
Speaker 4: with either one of them for many years. So I
Speaker 4: and so they started comparing and saying, well, obviously you're
Speaker 4: he loves you better than he loves me.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was just, okay, guys, let's let's just
Speaker 3: be thankful for what we have.
Speaker 2: That's be thankful. I know, I was thankful that my
Speaker 2: parents were able to stay next to each other for
Speaker 2: three minutes.
Speaker 3: And he said that has not happened in a long time.
Speaker 2: The last time that there was a picture with my
Speaker 2: mom and dad was at my sister's wedding, okay, which
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know, maybe nine years ago. I
Speaker 2: mean a long time ago.
Speaker 3: I just started following your sister, she's the best. She
Speaker 3: attagged her in.
Speaker 4: Something in one of the pictures, and I saw she
Speaker 4: was following me, So I'm like.
Speaker 3: Oh, she followed me.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna follow her.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she loves youtam.
Speaker 3: Oh kids are adorable.
Speaker 2: Her kids are so cute. And her one son, Woods
Speaker 2: is a wild man, Like I was, like, you are
Speaker 2: the most wild man I've ever been around in my
Speaker 2: entire life. I don't know how she does it. She's
Speaker 2: got to be exhausted because Woods makes Dove seem casual
Speaker 2: and relaxed.
Speaker 3: Oh, boys are like that.
Speaker 4: Now, Cruz has green hairs.
Speaker 2: He cut it off. It's sure. He just did that.
Speaker 4: He's not like his mom. Yeah, he heard colors different
Speaker 4: all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he came home, he cut it. It's now sure,
Speaker 2: it's tight. He's ready for football season. It's all the
Speaker 2: things before we get into housewife headlines. We have a
Speaker 2: couple questions on the GRAM. I realized we didn't talk
Speaker 2: about it because I personally I didn't even watch it.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to see it. I didn't want to
Speaker 2: have any like feeling.
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: So it's about something that happened at Bravo con. Everyone
Speaker 2: wants to know if you and my friendship has changed
Speaker 2: since what you said at Bravocon. No, I'm gonna the.
Speaker 3: Whole thing was so taken out of context.
Speaker 2: First off, in my knowledge, when me and Taramor spoke
Speaker 2: about that night, I never realized that anything that happened
Speaker 2: with Tarma was on stage or any discussions that we
Speaker 2: had were on stage. I thought she was having private discussion.
Speaker 3: Though I didn't about it at Bravo con.
Speaker 4: Wait wait, wait, wait wait, I'm confused.
Speaker 2: So when you said that you spoke to Andy and
Speaker 2: Kate Chastain, I didn't realize you met on stage.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't.
Speaker 4: Yes, they aired it that. I'm so confusing what you're
Speaker 4: talking about. I thought you were talking about Watch What
Speaker 4: Happens Live.
Speaker 2: We're talking about my post Watch what Happens Live? You
Speaker 2: were on and you and Andy and you and Kate
Speaker 2: Chastain talked about it. I didn't watch it.
Speaker 3: I don't believe I was ever What was I doing
Speaker 3: with Kate? No, she just made a comment.
Speaker 2: Originally you had just texted me, oh gosh, things that happened.
Speaker 4: With and then we then you called me and then
Speaker 4: we talked.
Speaker 2: No, we did not talk.
Speaker 4: Yes we did, Teddy, Teddy, Yes we did. We were
Speaker 4: sitting I was sitting in my hotel room and you said,
Speaker 4: how's the I don't know if we're talking about the
Speaker 4: same thing. How's the backlash?
Speaker 3: What did you hear? And I go, it's not good.
Speaker 3: You don't want to hear it. And you called me
Speaker 3: you were getting ready to go to the airport, had
Speaker 3: a full conversation with you about it.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, that happened, okay, but I didn't realize what
Speaker 2: happened with you was on.
Speaker 3: State What happened with me?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't watch it because I didn't
Speaker 2: want to get upset.
Speaker 4: But now people are, okay, okay, you're taking this way
Speaker 4: like farther than it should be.
Speaker 3: So I was on stage where Watch It.
Speaker 4: Happens Live, Yeah, and that was where Kate was on there,
Speaker 4: and so Annie said something about how or somebody, I
Speaker 4: don't know if it was Andy or the audience or
Speaker 4: something said how was what did you think about Teddy's
Speaker 4: performance with Vicky interaction whatever youone call it, And I said, well,
Speaker 4: I kind of had to have the tough conversation with her,
Speaker 4: which I did. I told you, I said, listen, I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna get into our conversation.
Speaker 3: But that's why I was no big deal.
Speaker 4: But they made it sound like and maybe I didn't
Speaker 4: use the right words or whatever, like it was like
Speaker 4: some Oh my god, I had to tell her no,
Speaker 4: then it was and then you know, the press totally
Speaker 4: blows it out of proportion.
Speaker 2: So that's why I was like, okay, we have and
Speaker 2: then kated about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Kate said, I think every conversation with Teddy
Speaker 4: is that what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so that essentially I don't know. I didn't
Speaker 2: watch it because I started getting tagged in it and
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want to see it. It's
Speaker 2: not worth it to me. I love Tam. At the
Speaker 2: end of the day, Tam always has my back. I
Speaker 2: don't care. But people were asking you and Tam were
Speaker 2: never talked about it on the pod. You never spoke
Speaker 2: about it. Again. I was like, well, because in our
Speaker 2: opinion it was done. It was.
Speaker 3: I didn't think it was no big deal.
Speaker 4: It was just I was very open on the podcast
Speaker 4: with you, and I thought Teddy, I would have liked to.
Speaker 3: See you make up with her and just move on.
Speaker 3: And we talked about it after. Yeah, So I didn't
Speaker 3: think it was that big.
Speaker 2: Of a deal. But me neither. But according to the
Speaker 2: World Wide Web, it was. And now you and I
Speaker 2: have a strained relationship.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, you know who else says this strange relationship
Speaker 4: a strained is John Jensen?
Speaker 2: What is happening?
Speaker 3: So evidently Alexis.
Speaker 4: Bilino calls Shannon Badoor's ex John Jensen a new friend.
Speaker 4: We're in similar places in our lives.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is another thing that is so stupid but
Speaker 3: went so viral.
Speaker 4: They were both at the same restaurant, Quiet Woman, and
Speaker 4: at the same time they decided to take a picture
Speaker 4: together and then all of a sudden, all hell broke
Speaker 4: loose and they're dating. If anybody, are they dating?
Speaker 2: No, they're not dating.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: Her and I had a text exchange and she, well,
Speaker 4: actually she texted me and said, thank you so much
Speaker 4: for kind of sticking up for me on your podcast.
Speaker 3: As we talked about this.
Speaker 2: We talked down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I said, no worries.
Speaker 4: It's just so ridiculous that you can't even take a
Speaker 4: picture with anybody nowadays, and now it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: they're dating.
Speaker 3: She's like, no, I just got I just met him, Like,
Speaker 3: just got.
Speaker 2: Posted the picture. That's what I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 4: I don't know who posted it. I don't follow John,
Speaker 4: so I don't know if John posted, but but Alexis
Speaker 4: did not post it.
Speaker 2: That okay, so that's my point. But also something I
Speaker 2: didn't realize until I read this page six article to
Speaker 2: completion was I just assumed that she knew Shannon like
Speaker 2: I thought that they knew.
Speaker 3: They've never worked together. They never worked together.
Speaker 4: And if you read the reports the night that she
Speaker 4: got her DUI, she her and Alexis had something went
Speaker 4: on there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So I don't know that I had something
Speaker 2: to do with John.
Speaker 3: No, nothing to a John. Oh if they've never worked together,
Speaker 3: they don't know each other. I don't even think. I
Speaker 3: don't even know if they ever met.
Speaker 2: Well, she says. She tells she told page six that
Speaker 2: her one time run in with Jansen had nothing to
Speaker 2: do with Badoor because she does not know her.
Speaker 3: That's true, that is accurate.
Speaker 2: Okay. So either way, John Jansen, are you trying to
Speaker 2: get under Shannon's skin by even taking this photo or
Speaker 2: do you just I mean.
Speaker 4: It's one thing to take it, but to post it
Speaker 4: knowing that it's going to go crazy.
Speaker 3: Alexis I saw that she had.
Speaker 4: Her ex Fancey over for Thanksgiving, so who knows, Maybe
Speaker 4: they're still together.
Speaker 2: Hmm, interesting, interesting turn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well this is also.
Speaker 2: Something I didn't know. Thank you. Page six. This is
Speaker 2: a double whammy for us. Lisa Hawkshtein's boyfriend Jody called
Speaker 2: off his wedding shortly before being seen with Lisa for
Speaker 2: the first time. Jodya and ex fiance Rabia got engaged
Speaker 2: in September twenty twenty one, and their wedding was set
Speaker 2: to take place in the South of France on September third,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. Multiple insiders tell US Jody called off
Speaker 2: nuptials only a few days before they were set to
Speaker 2: say I do, leaving everyone shocked. Security camera footage taken
Speaker 2: on September fourth of twenty twenty two shows Jody and
Speaker 2: Lisa arriving back to the mansion Lisa shared with Lenny.
Speaker 2: We all felt so bad because it seemed like Robbia
Speaker 2: went into a depression while Jody was out parading around
Speaker 2: town with Lisa. One person close to the pair tells US,
Speaker 2: adding that Glidden loves talking about his new found fame
Speaker 2: and notoriety.
Speaker 4: I didn't get that from him when I met him,
Speaker 4: but I didn't really get in a deep conversation with them.
Speaker 3: I think they're super cute together.
Speaker 4: But so basically they're insinuating they were supposed to get
Speaker 4: married on the third and he was with spotted with
Speaker 4: Lisa on the fourth.
Speaker 2: And if this is all true, which who knows. If
Speaker 2: it is, this situation shit happens. But also this is
Speaker 2: kind of mirroring the other shit. Yeah, I know this
Speaker 2: is not a housewife one. But we saw that your boy,
Speaker 2: Johnny Bananas was with uh what's her name from? It
Speaker 2: was on Thanksgiving with Lindsay Hubbard. But she came forward
Speaker 2: and said it was nothing. Really, she like commented, must
Speaker 2: be a slow news day.
Speaker 4: But I think they're dating. Yeah, because I asked Johnny
Speaker 4: and he just hearted it. He wouldn't even comment, and.
Speaker 3: It's not like him. He's got a big mouth. Uh huh. Oh,
Speaker 3: well good. I hope he's a nice guy.
Speaker 2: I would like them together. I think that would be fun.
Speaker 4: We need to have her on the pod soon. We
Speaker 4: do Andy cone te'ses Salt Lake City season four reunion. Well,
Speaker 4: I guess it was pretty freaking crazy. So Cohen cleared
Speaker 4: up a rumor that said Mary m Cosby was not
Speaker 4: in attendance.
Speaker 3: She did show up, she.
Speaker 4: Was not out on the stage for the entire reunion,
Speaker 4: but she was out there for the exact right amount
Speaker 4: of time, so that's good that she was there. He
Speaker 4: also shot down rumors that Genshaw made an appearance during
Speaker 4: the reunion via a video call, which is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 3: She's in prison. They don't do stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're like, oh, we really need ginshod Away
Speaker 2: in on Monica, like please.
Speaker 4: I know and I hear that their reunion was over
Speaker 4: the top, and I think it's going to be a
Speaker 4: three parter. Now watching Salt Lake City, there is not
Speaker 4: one second that I'm like, oh God, I need to
Speaker 4: do my nails. I am invested, I am writing notes.
Speaker 4: I can't stop watching. These girls are on fire.
Speaker 2: It is explosive every single time everyone is doing their
Speaker 2: work like they are putting in. If they're putting in
Speaker 2: the time and the effort to be offended at everything, Yes,
Speaker 2: and I appreciate it. Yeah I do.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: Nini Leaks gets together with housewives Cynthia Bailey Lisa Milan
Speaker 2: after Andy Cohen says he has room in his heart
Speaker 2: for her via the Page six article. Also allegedly, Nini
Speaker 2: Leaks has scrubbed her entire Instagram of anything having to
Speaker 2: do with Bethany. And now there's all these photos with
Speaker 2: housewives are former housewives, and are.
Speaker 3: You saying that you think that Nanie's getting her peach bag?
Speaker 2: I mean, at this point, I'm kind of wondering. I mean,
Speaker 2: I am here for it, especially because Drew and Sonia
Speaker 2: moved moved our ho A from their Instagram, which may
Speaker 2: mean nothing, but Drew saying she never had our ho
Speaker 2: A on.
Speaker 3: Her Okay, so who knows.
Speaker 2: But if Drew and Sonia are gone and Sonia just
Speaker 2: drug her ass all the way pregnant Khan and maybe she's.
Speaker 4: Just a team player and she went do you think
Speaker 4: that they would boot them before Bravo Khon or after?
Speaker 3: Do you think they'd be that nice?
Speaker 2: Would? I will probably think after to cause less brama.
Speaker 2: But we still don't know why Drew didn't come to
Speaker 2: Bravo kan last minute of cancelation.
Speaker 4: So and you haven't talked to her. That's Cynthia Bailey Man.
Speaker 4: She gets around, She's everywhere. She that girl travels more
Speaker 4: than anybody.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: She's in Dubai, then she's here, then she's there, then
Speaker 3: she's on this show, then she's on that show.
Speaker 2: Like all different looks. Oh, and speaking up, you will
Speaker 2: see me and Cynthia Bailey on a television show coming
Speaker 2: up on January sixteenth, on a show on Fox. You
Speaker 2: will see me and Cynthia go head to head.
Speaker 3: That's all I can say. Really, do I know about
Speaker 3: this show?
Speaker 2: I do. I think you got the offer first turned
Speaker 2: it down.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that was so long ago.
Speaker 2: I know we filmed it so long as like a
Speaker 2: year and a half. It was longer than it was,
Speaker 2: like over two years ago. I thought in my head
Speaker 2: maybe at aired, and no one ever told me that is.
Speaker 3: Crazy, I know. Well, Nini has not been confirmed to
Speaker 3: make a comeback in Bravo, but we are praying and
Speaker 3: hoping she does. I think that Atlanta needs it needs
Speaker 3: to be back to where it was.
Speaker 2: Well Andy did say something along the lines of it
Speaker 2: does need something, and so if that's something, is Nini
Speaker 2: Leaks and Cynthia Bailey and Portia. I'm here for yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: all right, So this next one. Kathy Hilton speaks on
Speaker 2: Kyle and Mauricio's separation. During an appearance on Hoda and Jenna,
Speaker 2: Kathy was asked about Kyle's tricky time Kathy said, when
Speaker 2: I first saw it, I was just like, it just
Speaker 2: broke my heart, she admitted, adding that Kyle is the
Speaker 2: strongest and the bossiest sister between her and Kim Richards.
Speaker 2: So she's very strong, she's very resilient, and she left
Speaker 2: her Nieces. I just want her to be happy.
Speaker 3: She just had to throw the word bossy in there.
Speaker 2: She had to add in bossy. She had to add
Speaker 2: in bossy.
Speaker 3: She had to give her a little upper cut. Yeah,
Speaker 3: let me give you a little passive aggressive.
Speaker 2: Just a touch and a little he and then this
Speaker 2: is where it gets even a little more dicey if
Speaker 2: bossy didn't cut it. When asked if she thought Kyle
Speaker 2: and Mauricio would get back together, Kathy said, there's no
Speaker 2: way that Kyle would have gone this far unless she
Speaker 2: really thought about it. Paris added, Kyle is looking hotter
Speaker 2: than ever, leading Kathy to say, but then the dating's
Speaker 2: going to start and I'm going to go, as she
Speaker 2: threw her hands up in confusion. I haven't spoken to
Speaker 2: Kyle about this yet. I'm seeing her tonight. I will
Speaker 2: be at Kathy Hilton's event working for Extra, so I
Speaker 2: will get all of the information on this wait, so
Speaker 2: she has presst she has an event with direct TV.
Speaker 2: It's like a Christmas holiday event, And I just got
Speaker 2: the list of attendees and I'm like, so, I'm working
Speaker 2: for extra on this, which means I'm on the red carpet.
Speaker 2: And as I'm reading through the list, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: they'll talk to me, they'll talk to me. Nope, won't
Speaker 2: talk to me. They'll talk No, they want to.
Speaker 3: Well, that's funny.
Speaker 4: Because tomorrow's event for the forty Powerful Women in Reality
Speaker 4: TV that also has something to do with Direct TV.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think they're are on a big thing
Speaker 2: right now. But I haven't gotten Kyle's thoughts on what
Speaker 2: Kathy said yet.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm sure she's thrilled, but I will talk to
Speaker 3: her about it.
Speaker 2: I think the hard thing is is that what I
Speaker 2: think the answer should be, No matter what is, we
Speaker 2: just want everybody involved happy, and we want the best
Speaker 2: for everybody's kids. And we just have to see because
Speaker 2: clearly we don't know yet what is going on, and
Speaker 2: probably neither do they.
Speaker 3: Yeah, whish I'm the best.
Speaker 2: All right, take a little break and we'll come back
Speaker 2: and talk about Real Housewives of Potomac. All right, we
Speaker 2: are back to talk about Potomac.
Speaker 4: Waan shows up to play pickleball, I know, and everybody's like, ooh,
Speaker 4: the music everything. Wan Dixon is here, Like, what is
Speaker 4: he supposed to hide out?
Speaker 2: I mean he's hidden out the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: But Karen calls and invites Neca and Ike to play
Speaker 2: pickleball with the rest of the women and their husbands.
Speaker 2: Mecca is nervous to see Wendy because how aggressive her
Speaker 2: word not mine. Wendy's sister was to Necca's cousin in law.
Speaker 2: I went to college with Eddie, Wendy's husband, and Neca
Speaker 2: heard she was submitted to the shrine and Eddie unfriended
Speaker 2: Ike on Facebook.
Speaker 4: Oh my, is this not the most confusing story ever.
Speaker 4: My brother's sister's mother's cousin said that you unfollowed me
Speaker 4: on Facebook.
Speaker 3: It's just too much and.
Speaker 2: You started a shrine and are we reading the sub context? Like,
Speaker 2: is what actually happening is Wendy was upset that Necho
Speaker 2: was trying to be on the show and she wanted
Speaker 2: to cock block it and she didn't like it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I haven't.
Speaker 4: I mean, Neca so knew I mean, we're just finding
Speaker 4: out that her husband is a traveling doctor, yet he
Speaker 4: hates to travel, and that she is ovulating today or
Speaker 4: this week. So you're gonna have to get it in
Speaker 4: there because they're trying to have a baby. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's the first thing she said when he got in
Speaker 4: the car.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna really not enjoy being a housewife.
Speaker 4: Yet it's very sexy, very very sexy, and the t
Speaker 4: travels for his work and hates it.
Speaker 3: Well, my question is who like Facebook?
Speaker 4: Like they un followed on How do you know when
Speaker 4: somebody follows you on Facebook?
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I don't even know my face.
Speaker 4: It's not Instagram because you go through and you can
Speaker 4: see you know who you're following, and you're like, hey,
Speaker 4: I haven't seen Eddie's post in my Oh he unfollowed me.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm assuming that once she got the call from
Speaker 2: the cousin in law and the blah blah blah, they
Speaker 2: then went to the facebooks realize. But then the part
Speaker 2: that makes it even more confusing is later on in
Speaker 2: the episode when Eddie acts I don't know if he's
Speaker 2: acting or if he's being transparent that he doesn't actually
Speaker 2: know ike, but apparently they were in some groups together.
Speaker 2: But I don't know how big the groups were, so
Speaker 2: who knows if they I mean, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know who all the people that I potentially follow
Speaker 2: on Facebook because I don't go on Facebook, right, But
Speaker 2: Karen did prove why she's the Grand Dome of Potomac
Speaker 2: for actually trying to duct tape this group back together.
Speaker 2: It didn't work. It worked out as well as the
Speaker 2: beans falling, I know.
Speaker 4: And I think her opening line was is like one
Speaker 4: of those we don't need any drama here, oh oh god.
Speaker 2: Here we go Between that and her dressing like a pickle,
Speaker 2: enough is enough.
Speaker 4: I mean, this whole episode should be sponsored by Doe
Speaker 4: Dyll Pickles deals the name of it, I know what is,
Speaker 4: like Gideon or Gilson or I don't know.
Speaker 2: But Robin and Giselle meet for lunch. Giselle brings up
Speaker 2: how she talked to Wan in Atlanta and Wan came
Speaker 2: for her and yelled at her. Robin says that Wan's
Speaker 2: hearing is bad because of screaming while he's coaching. What's
Speaker 2: wrong with my like? What is my excuse? Giselle says
Speaker 2: that Wan was not happy with her and yelled that
Speaker 2: he did not have sex with anyone. Robin fills Giselle
Speaker 2: in on how Wendy's mom and sister called Nika's cousin
Speaker 2: in law. Do we believe that Wan is hard of hearing?
Speaker 2: Or do we think he just yelled at Giselle or
Speaker 2: do you think he was just heated? Do you think
Speaker 2: he actually yelled?
Speaker 3: What heated?
Speaker 4: And I think stop. All one said was I didn't
Speaker 4: put it in.
Speaker 2: I didn't stick it in.
Speaker 3: I didn't put my thing in her.
Speaker 2: I was just the tip.
Speaker 3: It was just a tip. And then I slipped, and
Speaker 3: then somebody somebody pat me on the back and I
Speaker 3: telling and then someone.
Speaker 2: Jumped on the bed and then I just have to
Speaker 2: penetrate accident.
Speaker 3: It was accident, but I didn't put my thing in her.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. But then Giselle continues on doing the work.
Speaker 2: She says she hasn't spoken to Candace since the reunion.
Speaker 2: She said nothing good will ever come from her speaking
Speaker 2: to Candace. Candace says Giselle's words impacted her marriage, so
Speaker 2: f that bitch forever. For I think Giselle and Candace
Speaker 2: should find a way to come together for the sake
Speaker 2: of the show.
Speaker 3: Yes, they have to, I think. So, I mean there's
Speaker 3: you can't hold grudges. No, I gotta move on. I
Speaker 3: mean I get it, like.
Speaker 4: Jazelle lied about Chris, I wouldn't trust her either if
Speaker 4: she was lying about my husband. I mean, I've had
Speaker 4: that issue on my show as well, and that person
Speaker 4: that lied I don't trust. So it's just something you
Speaker 4: have to do. You have to you have to get
Speaker 4: over it, you have to move on. But doesn't mean
Speaker 4: you completely trust them.
Speaker 2: But I think this is why the show is starting
Speaker 2: to break down a little bit, because if the ensemble
Speaker 2: can't find a way to move past things and actually communicate,
Speaker 2: it gets stale.
Speaker 3: It just does I know.
Speaker 4: But how about Candace is like, when're talking about Robin,
Speaker 4: I don't know how I feel about Robin, And there's
Speaker 4: a flashback of her yelling.
Speaker 3: Fraud and then all the tweets. I think we know
Speaker 3: exactly how you feel.
Speaker 4: How about mom? Mom wants to know Cannas's mom wants
Speaker 4: to know what Chris is doing for a living.
Speaker 3: Isn't he making any money? And I'm like, oh, Candace
Speaker 3: is like, really, are we doing this right now?
Speaker 2: Are we doing Hannas is like last week, I just
Speaker 2: had to say the hundreds of thousands of dollars I
Speaker 2: was spending on.
Speaker 3: Tour and now yes, yep.
Speaker 2: That mom is the gift that keeps on giving. She is.
Speaker 2: Then here we are again talking about Candace asked Neka
Speaker 2: and Wendy if they are good. Mekka brings up Wendy's
Speaker 2: mom's phone call submitting her name to the shrine. If
Speaker 2: I hear the word shrine time, I mean, all I
Speaker 2: know is not one of them was very good at pickleball.
Speaker 2: Not one of them. We're really dressed for pickleball.
Speaker 3: Well, we need to discuss Robin's outfit.
Speaker 2: I almost bought that outfit from Alo Yoga. I know
Speaker 2: your face.
Speaker 4: I don't get this whole new fad of wearing a diaper.
Speaker 3: Well, I saw a few of them at Rabo Con.
Speaker 2: You didn't like Aaron's diper Aaron.
Speaker 3: Looked amazing in it, amazing.
Speaker 2: Her diaper was on point, Like they need to give
Speaker 2: her whatever that.
Speaker 3: She gets A yeah, but in.
Speaker 4: General, like I don't. I didn't care for that outfit
Speaker 4: at all.
Speaker 3: I did not watch me wear it next year, watch
Speaker 3: me watch me loan it to you.
Speaker 2: We'll both wear it, we'll get photographs in it, and
Speaker 2: then we'll love it.
Speaker 3: But and we'll like to know it all the stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll do all the things. You know, now that
Speaker 2: we've talked about it, we'll like to know it right
Speaker 2: here on this podcast. Go to our pages and then
Speaker 2: we'll well, we'll just post a picture of Robin in
Speaker 2: this outfit. If you want to purchase that, you can
Speaker 2: with thirty percent off Black Friday sale.
Speaker 3: Yeah, tap here.
Speaker 2: I also just want to understand the game of telephone
Speaker 2: that had to go down for all of this to
Speaker 2: get back to Neka and this and that, Like, is
Speaker 2: this Ashley's fault? Ashley was the one that originally.
Speaker 3: Just wanted to start this. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Wendy is pissed because Nika.
Speaker 4: Told people that they have met before, Like who cares?
Speaker 2: Remember that was a fight on Atlanta too, when the
Speaker 2: new friend of said that she knew Candy, but she
Speaker 2: actually knew her, She just knew of her. Courtney was
Speaker 2: her name?
Speaker 3: Courtney?
Speaker 2: Like whatever? You guys? That is this is key to
Speaker 2: like getting on a housewife show. You mentioned the acquaintances
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you have to be
Speaker 2: friends Zish prior to your arrival and then clearly.
Speaker 3: Comes on your exit They're done with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is what it is?
Speaker 4: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Well why does Ike then ask Eddie why he unfriended
Speaker 2: him on Facebook? And Eddie ax confused, saying he just
Speaker 2: met him.
Speaker 3: He's like, huh what happy Eddie?
Speaker 2: He's like, what, I think I'm gonna start doing that now.
Speaker 2: Whenever I say anything that offends people, I'm gonna be.
Speaker 3: Like, who, who do what?
Speaker 2: I have a podcast where I talk about housewives.
Speaker 3: Huh how not me? I'd love that.
Speaker 4: When Neka walked in to pick a ball, she hugged everyone,
Speaker 4: hugged everyone, and walks past Wendy and goes, hey, hey god,
Speaker 4: I love her.
Speaker 2: I know. And when Wendy's like, oh, I was so
Speaker 2: nice to Mecha at Ashley's event, I'm like, no, you were.
Speaker 3: You weren't. We watched that toune boat.
Speaker 2: It was an awkward correspondence even before you found out
Speaker 2: about the potential voodoo situation.
Speaker 4: When you think about when Wan showed up in production
Speaker 4: played sound bites of what all the ladies had said
Speaker 4: about him in the past.
Speaker 3: You know what, Wan, I'm happy one they did him
Speaker 3: a solid. There didn't.
Speaker 2: And if I was Wan and there were that food
Speaker 2: was all served in those big containers right next to
Speaker 2: right where they were supposedly playing pickleball, I probably would
Speaker 2: have accidentally bumped it too, right.
Speaker 3: But so Karen agrees with us.
Speaker 4: What is Robin wearing? Yeah, and then she says put
Speaker 4: it back. Nobody wants it, not even not even Wan.
Speaker 4: I mean the shade of it all that was.
Speaker 2: That was a lot coming from someone who was dressed
Speaker 2: as a pickle pickle right matching with her husband in
Speaker 2: the same pickle color.
Speaker 4: You know who did not show it for pickleball, and
Speaker 4: that was Chris. Chris did not show up for pick aball.
Speaker 4: I have a sense that he's pulling back from filming
Speaker 4: doing to last season what all the girls were saying
Speaker 4: about him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a feeling he's taken a little bit
Speaker 2: of a back. But I did see someone come forward,
Speaker 2: the girl who was accusing Chris of whatever it was.
Speaker 2: I don't even want to give it too much light,
Speaker 2: but that girl that accused Chris came forward and said
Speaker 2: she made it all up.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, mm hmmm, I like Chris. I feel bad.
Speaker 4: Well, now we got a new villain in town.
Speaker 3: His name is one.
Speaker 2: His name is Wan. But I also I have to say,
Speaker 2: I don't need to see two grown men fighting over Facebook.
Speaker 3: But what's next?
Speaker 2: Who's in your MySpace? Top eight?
Speaker 4: I know? Like, no, God, I miss MySpace.
Speaker 2: You guys have to listen to this book. It's called
Speaker 2: Down the Drain. It's Julia Fox's book. I know what
Speaker 2: you're all thinking.
Speaker 3: Really, she read a book.
Speaker 2: It is so good and so juicy. I listened to
Speaker 2: it on the plane. The reason I thought about MySpace
Speaker 2: was because she talks about it on her thing, because
Speaker 2: remember she used to be a dominatrix.
Speaker 3: And all these things her much about her.
Speaker 2: Oh, you have to download the book and just it's
Speaker 2: a great audiobook for one of your rides to Lake
Speaker 2: Arrowhead or something you are. But is it like Airhead
Speaker 2: or Big Bear? Did I just get the two? Confuse
Speaker 2: big Bear?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah? AnyWho, that was this episode. Let's take a quick
Speaker 2: break and we'll come back and talk about salt Lake. Okay,
Speaker 2: we are back to talk about salt Lake.
Speaker 4: Didn't disappoint, didn't disappoint.
Speaker 2: But I have I'm gonna say this right from the
Speaker 2: get not enough Angie in this episode. She I mean
Speaker 2: she's a great buffer for the women, like, but there.
Speaker 3: Wasn't enough Angie. Yeah, not enough.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: One thing that I found really sad is Whitney finds
Speaker 4: out that her friend Sherry has been intubated. Does that
Speaker 4: mean like she got a tube or something.
Speaker 2: I think it means. I'm not a doctor.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2: It means something is breathing.
Speaker 3: Breathing for you. Scherry's been fighting for cancer.
Speaker 4: This, I mean, they do flashbacks if Scherry had been
Speaker 4: on the show before, and so I went down the
Speaker 4: rabbit hole of looking her up on social media.
Speaker 3: It was terribly sad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was just so young, so beautiful, and
Speaker 4: so left behind. I think it was three small kids,
Speaker 4: really sad.
Speaker 2: I think in this instance this could have been an
Speaker 2: event that Whitney sat out.
Speaker 3: I think so too. I think it.
Speaker 4: You know, then I started thinking, like what is the
Speaker 4: family feel about it being highlighted on the show and
Speaker 4: having to really relive it. I think she passed away
Speaker 4: back in March.
Speaker 2: And then it becoming a fight, and then also Whitney saying,
Speaker 2: you know, Cherry would have wanted me to be here
Speaker 2: at this party, like that kind of stuff is hard
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 4: Like I'm like, so Whitney and Justin are talking about
Speaker 4: going to therapy and if it works and if it
Speaker 4: doesn't work.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't work.
Speaker 3: Wearing matching Gucci teach Well.
Speaker 4: I was going to wear I have that same Guccy
Speaker 4: T shirt.
Speaker 2: I've seen it.
Speaker 4: I've worn it like three times in my life. It's
Speaker 4: in Big Bear because I took all the clothes that
Speaker 4: I never wear to Big Bear. Yeah, and I was
Speaker 4: gonna wear it, and I'm like, oh shit, I don't
Speaker 4: have it.
Speaker 2: You know, the only works if we both had it,
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: So Whitney and and Justin are really leaning into the
Speaker 4: marriage issues this season. But Whitney did say something very
Speaker 4: a very accurate statement, and she said to Justin, as
Speaker 4: long as we are both still want to be married,
Speaker 4: we are winning. And that is so true because so
Speaker 4: many times people get a divorced because one person wants
Speaker 4: the oout or.
Speaker 2: You, like you truly believe that marriage is a fairy tale,
Speaker 2: and the second that it gets hard, you don't want
Speaker 2: to put work into it. If you're still willing to
Speaker 2: work on it, if you're still willing to give your
Speaker 2: partner grace and also theyre I'll give it back to
Speaker 2: you and respect and you're still work like you're still
Speaker 2: willing to fight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, then there's if you don't want it's one person
Speaker 4: doesn't want to be in it, then that's usually a
Speaker 4: no win situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I think I do think they love
Speaker 2: you each other. I think this is growing pains. I
Speaker 2: think they're in a financially different place. One power differences
Speaker 2: all of them. But then, what do you think about
Speaker 2: Meredith and Lisa meet and Meredith asked Lisa if she
Speaker 2: told Angie that Meredith was threatening her. I love when
Speaker 2: Lisa doesn't necessarily answer a question. She kind of like
Speaker 2: weasels her way out of it, but then comes back
Speaker 2: to it so she's not actually caught in a lie.
Speaker 2: Lisa feels the situation with Monica is different than Meredith's
Speaker 2: with Angie. Lisa says she pumped the brakes on their
Speaker 2: friendship with Meredith after Palm Spring. Meredith questions why Lisa
Speaker 2: didn't pump the brakes on her friendship with Angie as well.
Speaker 2: Meredith says she isn't the one bringing the tornado through
Speaker 2: and that karma comes back. First thing I need to understand.
Speaker 2: Why does Meredith dislike Angie's.
Speaker 4: I don't know. That's what I don't understand. Like this
Speaker 4: is the second event. She has not been invited to Angie.
Speaker 4: She's not invited to Palm Spring she went anyway, she
Speaker 4: was not invited to Meredith's jewelry party.
Speaker 3: I don't like that in general.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you're an ensemble cast, like you guys
Speaker 4: should all do things together. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 4: know why she dislikes her. Is there something that we
Speaker 4: haven't seen? And another question I want to know, is
Speaker 4: it a thing in Utah to where snow goggles and sunglasses?
Speaker 2: Apparently? Because now they're all doing it, you're a real trendsetter.
Speaker 3: Do you know who else is doing it?
Speaker 2: Who?
Speaker 3: My husband?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I know the Oh no, these were the big ones.
Speaker 4: They're the big ones where they actually go over the nose.
Speaker 3: They look like big giant goggles. I can't even see
Speaker 3: half of his face.
Speaker 2: Uneffable, I know, uneffable, I know, But sometimes I do
Speaker 2: wonder if Meredith is speaking like a different version of
Speaker 2: English than what we're all speaking, because loss with what
Speaker 2: she's saying.
Speaker 4: I love watching her facial expressions and the words that
Speaker 4: she uses in the turning of her head and all that. Now,
Speaker 4: is there a difference between what Monica's behavior towards Lisa
Speaker 4: and Meredith's behavior towards Angie? Do you think there's a
Speaker 4: difference because Lisa believes there is.
Speaker 2: I believe, oh no, what Lisa believes that Monica, That.
Speaker 3: Monica's just a bitch. She said she's just a bitch.
Speaker 2: She's just a bitch.
Speaker 4: And what's going on between Angie and Meredith.
Speaker 2: I think the reason why Lisa's not upset with Angie
Speaker 2: like she is was with Meredith is because Meredith threatened,
Speaker 2: whether she wants to call it or not, yeah, to
Speaker 2: disclose something that could ruin her life. And granted it
Speaker 2: wasn't nice what Angie said in response about her jewelry,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't going to ruin her life. Nor do
Speaker 2: I think that's where she makes the majority of the Can.
Speaker 4: You ruin somebody's life? Or do you do you? I
Speaker 4: totally disagree with that because because Meret said, like I
Speaker 4: can ruin anybody in life, No, I have to allow
Speaker 4: you to ruin my life, you know, unless you're gonna
Speaker 4: do some qual charges against me, that we're fake and
Speaker 4: have me locked up that's ruining my life. But there's
Speaker 4: nothing that you've done to me or I've done to
Speaker 4: you that I can ruin your life.
Speaker 2: You and I know a lot about one another. M hmm,
Speaker 2: and I don't believe you could ruin my life, nor
Speaker 2: would I want to, nor would we even threaten it.
Speaker 2: I think the only and that's.
Speaker 4: My next question is like, do you think threatening I?
Speaker 4: Do you want me to go there? Do you want
Speaker 4: me to go there with husband? Do you want me
Speaker 4: to go there with.
Speaker 2: This or that?
Speaker 4: Is that as bad as repeating a rumor?
Speaker 2: I think it's better just if you're gonna go there
Speaker 2: and you're going to allude to it, go there like
Speaker 2: if like regardless if it sucks, go there. But also,
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily if Meredith doesn't like Andree, I don't
Speaker 2: give it understand why she cares?
Speaker 3: Yeah about Andie's relationship. I agree?
Speaker 4: So next season, should I go back and say things
Speaker 4: like do you want me to go there with a
Speaker 4: dick pic?
Speaker 3: Do you want me to go there?
Speaker 2: Do you want me? Do you want me to show
Speaker 2: it to the campra?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Do you want to talk? You're gonna be Do
Speaker 3: you want to talk? Do you want to talk about
Speaker 3: the FBI?
Speaker 2: Hold on? Can you do? You just want to do
Speaker 2: this on the at the first episode and you're confessional,
Speaker 2: I have the pig. I'm a real artist.
Speaker 4: You are.
Speaker 3: That is a really good whacker.
Speaker 2: What about when Monica? I love how they just throw
Speaker 2: Mary doesn't go to any any actual They.
Speaker 3: Just work around Mary, Mary, where where do you want
Speaker 3: us to show up? You don't have to show up anywhere.
Speaker 2: And also Mary, I found it a little shocking that
Speaker 2: you served cake to Monica after giving her such a
Speaker 2: hard time for wanting dessert the last time y'all were together.
Speaker 2: I think that was all a joke.
Speaker 3: It was carrot cake. You can't go wrong with carrot cake.
Speaker 3: It's one of my favorites.
Speaker 2: I know, but you can't the whole thing about her,
Speaker 2: Why do you want sweets? Why would you do that?
Speaker 2: And then her watching or eat the cake and she's like,
Speaker 2: how's the cake? Yeah, there's something else going on, Like
Speaker 2: she plays like she doesn't know what's happening.
Speaker 4: She's another one that has great facial expressions and all
Speaker 4: the all the things she says, it's like, where are
Speaker 4: you from?
Speaker 2: I did agree with Monica on something. I do believe
Speaker 2: that Mary can give good advice even though she never
Speaker 2: says to herself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we talked about this earlier, like about grudges,
Speaker 4: like you can't hold a grudge and Mary telling Monica
Speaker 4: not to hold a grudge while not being able to
Speaker 4: forgive Whitney.
Speaker 3: Is a whole other story. It's on brand for Mary,
Speaker 3: like that's why.
Speaker 2: Mary not hold a grudge. But Mary holds grudges harder
Speaker 2: than I do, and I hold him pretty hard.
Speaker 3: Oh god.
Speaker 4: But Monica is going to apologize and she ends up
Speaker 4: ending the scene with She's wrinkled, and I mean it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, She's like, I'm gonna apologize to Lisa
Speaker 4: Dunn and Mary's like, yeah, that's the good thing. And
Speaker 4: then she ends up with, well, she is wrinkled.
Speaker 3: I meant it. I'm like, oh my.
Speaker 2: God, I know, I know Monica.
Speaker 4: I don't know Monica steps in her own shit, But
Speaker 4: I think she's a good housewife.
Speaker 2: She's a good housewife. Do we think that Mary now
Speaker 2: is like the Dawn of Salt Lake City where she's
Speaker 2: just gonna summon women to her house one on one
Speaker 2: and go all out advice.
Speaker 3: I need for her to sit on like a throne.
Speaker 3: That's what I needs. New chairs.
Speaker 4: He needs a new, big, giant queen throne, and she's
Speaker 4: gonna sit there and people just come in and ask
Speaker 4: her for advice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then we get to Mary, which also I thought
Speaker 2: Mary liked Meredith, but then she didn't come to Meredith this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know why she didn't come to the party,
Speaker 4: but that was like a good thing. She didn't come
Speaker 4: because the other people got her rum and her donuts.
Speaker 2: What about how Monica wouldn't even give them out to
Speaker 2: the I was like, listen, none of those other women
Speaker 2: are eating gonna eat those or drink that rum, so
Speaker 2: let the party goers.
Speaker 4: Those aren't for free.
Speaker 2: They never even showed one piece of the jewelry either.
Speaker 2: I was like watching, like trying to see like it
Speaker 2: was like a quick scan.
Speaker 4: It did. They showed a little bit, but not much.
Speaker 4: But I'm like, hey, Meredith over here, I'll take some.
Speaker 2: Send us some. I mean, Prism, Prism has already sent
Speaker 2: us some. I'm just saying they did.
Speaker 3: She did Whitney. Yeah, so we.
Speaker 2: Have prism, we have plated. What do we think Lisa
Speaker 2: Barlow is going to bring us soon. It should be
Speaker 2: a P name. What's a good P name for a
Speaker 2: jewelry line?
Speaker 3: Penis?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then we get Monica pulling Lisa aside to apologize.
Speaker 2: Lisa is surprised and how good of an apologizer Monica is?
Speaker 4: It was a good apology, it was and Lisa was
Speaker 4: eating up this apology. She was like, keep it coming.
Speaker 2: She was so happy somebody was being nice to her.
Speaker 2: Everyone makes fun of her all the time, and she's
Speaker 2: just done. I do enjoy Heather sort of housewife whisper
Speaker 2: coaching she's doing with everyone, She's doing with Monica and
Speaker 2: kind of everyone. This season, Heather's back in my good graces.
Speaker 2: I like watching her.
Speaker 3: I like her too.
Speaker 2: I wis somebody would have done for Heather what she's
Speaker 2: doing for other people last year during her black Eye situation,
Speaker 2: because then she would have been better. Then this part
Speaker 2: is where it really becomes a cringe situation. Lisa finally
Speaker 2: approaches Whitney to see how she's doing. Whitney is upset
Speaker 2: that when Lisa first approached her, Lisa didn't hug her,
Speaker 2: but instead gave Heather a gift. Whitney says, Lisa lacks
Speaker 2: self awareness. Lisa thinks Whitney may be upset that she
Speaker 2: talked to Heather first. Whinney says, it's weird that Lisa
Speaker 2: ran up to Heather to give her the gift. Lisa says,
Speaker 2: there are flowers on the way to her house. I
Speaker 2: also want to know what time is it here? I
Speaker 2: thought this was a nighttime event. What time do flowers
Speaker 2: arrive in Utah?
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I mean she actually said that
Speaker 4: Lisa has been talking to her for the past five
Speaker 4: days about the passing of her best friend, and she
Speaker 4: also sent her flowers. What did she want?
Speaker 2: Well, I do think Lida Heather to brow But.
Speaker 3: Do I need to pop a vane? Yeah? I mean,
Speaker 3: what else does she want?
Speaker 2: I think Lisa shows her frustration when she starts crying
Speaker 2: saying this, she starts to take her mic off. She
Speaker 2: tells production she's not putting it on. She storms off
Speaker 2: with John. I think the reason Lisa is so kissed
Speaker 2: is I think Lisa assumed, and I could be wrong.
Speaker 2: I have not spoken to her, but I think she
Speaker 2: assumed Whitney was not going to want to talk about
Speaker 2: that on camera. Yeah, and so she was avoiding that situation.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean it's it's it's kind of a
Speaker 4: situation where you know, her friend wasn't a cast member.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she had filmed and.
Speaker 4: Lisa had talked to her about it for five days.
Speaker 4: She said, like, I don't know what she wanted. She
Speaker 4: just kept going to and kept and kept going where
Speaker 4: Lisa's like, now I'm gonna look like a big old
Speaker 4: dick and I'm not doing this, and She's like, I'm out.
Speaker 4: I love a good take my mic off moment.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: I think it all does stem from whatever's going on
Speaker 2: with Heather. I think there's because you saw how quickly
Speaker 2: she was like Heather.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I kind of feel like Whitney's more mad at Lisa
Speaker 4: about Lisa becoming friends with Heather than anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the problem.
Speaker 4: Can we can we talk about the store they have
Speaker 4: in Utah for missionary men, about that they have their
Speaker 4: own store there where they can get slacks that are
Speaker 4: like Lululemon. And all I could think was, oh, God,
Speaker 4: don't let Eddy know.
Speaker 2: Don't let Edwin know, because Edwin's already obsessed with all
Speaker 2: his from Viory.
Speaker 3: So oh yes, yes, I can't say this.
Speaker 2: I don't love a button down, short sleeve with a tie.
Speaker 2: It's a hard note for me.
Speaker 3: Well that's I'm not gonna say it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well AnyWho, salt Lake did not disappoint, but you guys,
Speaker 2: thanks for tuning in. We will be back soon for
Speaker 2: another episode to recap Beverly Hills and Miami Miami,