Speaker 1: All right, welcome on in, Welcome on back to Off
Speaker 1: the Edge with me your host Caim Jordans. This episode,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the obvious, how the Saints only
Speaker 1: put up fifteen points against the Falcons. So then we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the reaction to Carolina firing the another
Speaker 1: head coach two season two head coaches gone, that creates instability.
Speaker 1: Then of course I want to talking with my guy,
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons, deepensive tackle Tennessee Titans, mont Star and maybe
Speaker 1: throwing a little you know, something new, a little spice,
Speaker 1: a little flavor if you will, little Q and A
Speaker 1: from the fans on my podcast Off the Edge. Let's
Speaker 1: get into it. Saints lost twenty four to fifteen. I
Speaker 1: left the game when it was twenty one to fifteen.
Speaker 1: I got rolled up on bodies, fell my wave, pinned
Speaker 1: my whole light, left leg down. I try to get
Speaker 1: back in the game, couldn't really plan off my foot. Frustrated.
Speaker 1: You know, when you see a team that you're supposed
Speaker 1: to beat nine times out of ten, get that ten.
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons came out. They had TI start performing and
Speaker 1: I say start performing because they cut his mic and
Speaker 1: so then they were just playing his music and I
Speaker 1: think he was trying to introduce the team, but I'm
Speaker 1: not really sure. It was sort of I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it was media embarrassing for the Falcons, but it sort
Speaker 1: of was saw TLC, you know, without Lisa left eye,
Speaker 1: of course, but you had Chile and Tea Balls trying
Speaker 1: to perform, and they gave him like the last twenty
Speaker 1: seconds of their song after they brought out, like, you know,
Speaker 1: a little girls group. They were dancing, they had DJ
Speaker 1: booth and they didn't even do them justice. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: there's a legends here. The only thing that went right
Speaker 1: for him, I guess was was them winning the game
Speaker 1: by Jesse Bates scored a touchdown. Here's car now watch
Speaker 1: the throw in accepted Jesse Bates. He's got green grass
Speaker 1: forty fifty forty thirty twenty strided out Jesse touchdown Atlanta.
Speaker 1: He went like ninety five to ninety six yards and
Speaker 1: I'm like, just get him down. Put the defense on there,
Speaker 1: because at this point it was three zero, like we
Speaker 1: need that, you know, we should have been up ten
Speaker 1: to oh completely different ball game, would have made their
Speaker 1: quarterback be a quarterback instead of this dink and dunk
Speaker 1: that we faced, but it gets frustrated losing to a
Speaker 1: team that you're supposed to be.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: The only other highlight I could think of was probably
Speaker 1: Ludacris coming down and rap and get back, which was,
Speaker 1: you know, reminisced to my Was that maybe junior high
Speaker 1: for me when he came out the fire song and
Speaker 1: the first time probably since twenty fifteen and the Atlanta
Speaker 1: Falcons fans were actually rocking with them. That was probably
Speaker 1: as loud as they've ever been and it still sounded
Speaker 1: like a Saints preseason game anyways. So let's get be
Speaker 1: on them. We have, you know, we've we've got the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions coming up, which you know, their head coach
Speaker 1: was a former tight ends coach for us, so we
Speaker 1: know Dan Campbell quite well. We got to be able
Speaker 1: to focus in and try and hone in on what
Speaker 1: Jamior Gibbs, you know, David Montgomery, Alma Saint Brown, amon
Speaker 1: Ra Saint Brown almost disrespected him, what they bring to
Speaker 1: the table. And of course you got to be aware
Speaker 1: of of Jared goffin the way he's led his team
Speaker 1: to their record. Now, so we've got things we got
Speaker 1: to do. We've got things we got to take care
Speaker 1: of now, talking about you know, head coach, head coaches
Speaker 1: that we know, head coaches that we don't. You know,
Speaker 1: the Carolina goes through it again, ends up firing their
Speaker 1: head coach to the week and after Thanksgiving Black Friday. No,
Speaker 1: all these coaches must go. This is what Carolina has
Speaker 1: just put out there, which means, you know, they're gonna
Speaker 1: stick by their guy, Bryce Young and try and build
Speaker 1: around him as their number one overall pick from this
Speaker 1: past year's draft, which makes sense. I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of potential with that kid when he's you know,
Speaker 1: the time, we've already faced him and I thought there
Speaker 1: was a lot of positive to him. Now, clearly he
Speaker 1: hasn't had the fast start like CJ. Stroud has over
Speaker 1: the Texans, but ce Just Stroud has a lot of weapons,
Speaker 1: you know, not saying you can't name a rupping over
Speaker 1: at Carolina. But if it's not Bryce Young here, talk
Speaker 1: about the only other one would on offense would be
Speaker 1: Adam Thaln. So you know, they're trying to get right
Speaker 1: over there, and I'm I'm I'm thankful that I don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about a mid season head coach change
Speaker 1: so far in my career to date anyways, So let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and move on. I really want to do
Speaker 1: something interesting here is bringing these fan questions. About a
Speaker 1: week ago, send out a little little post on my
Speaker 1: ig story and was like, Hey, any questions that you
Speaker 1: guys want to talk about while I'm on the on
Speaker 1: the pod. Let's let's talk about it, all right, So
Speaker 1: let's get into these questions. You know, start off light
Speaker 1: and then go heavy on answer four or five six
Speaker 1: questions whatever I got in the next you know, five
Speaker 1: six minutes or so. At Sean Ray's eighty seven, you
Speaker 1: asked me what my favorite snack is, and it just
Speaker 1: depends on the day. More times than not. I'm looking
Speaker 1: for a bag of like chips like the kettle kettle
Speaker 1: cooked potato chips, big on potatoes, Love a good potato chip,
Speaker 1: salt sure preferably barbecue and jalapeno, like two different bags.
Speaker 1: You mix them in there, fire combination, combination. Let's go
Speaker 1: on to uh oh at chief Olave. I see what
Speaker 1: you did there? What made you fall in love with
Speaker 1: New Orleans? If it wasn't the food, then it was
Speaker 1: the people. And if it was the people, then it
Speaker 1: was just the ability to be drafted by the New
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints and doing so, I met one of my
Speaker 1: best friends, you know, mark Ingram same draft class twenty eleven,
Speaker 1: holding it down, and everything about New Orleans has been phenomenal.
Speaker 1: You know, met the wife down here in New Orleans,
Speaker 1: created four beautiful kids down here in New Orleans. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go on beyond that, you know, I think, oh,
Speaker 1: this could be fun. At Pascal Underscore Mayala Maya La
Speaker 1: Underscore fifteen, your top five greatest D line of all time. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say John Randall top tier. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald up there, up there. I mean, I'm probably
Speaker 1: like you know, I was born in Minnesota, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna fight for like a Keith Millard or you know,
Speaker 1: whatever that is. Maybe he's rounding at five. I don't
Speaker 1: have him in whatever order. But then the next two though,
Speaker 1: this where gets interesting. I think JJ Watt is gonna
Speaker 1: it should have been one of the best labeled as
Speaker 1: D tackles, so he could be the best D tackle
Speaker 1: of all times. I mean, what he's done in the
Speaker 1: interior pressures that he creates. Yeah, he gets out on
Speaker 1: the edge, but his ability to cross gaps and create
Speaker 1: mismatches on a guard, we're disgusting. For one hundred and
Speaker 1: like twelve and a half sacks going for two season
Speaker 1: is worth a twenty twenty pieces. There was a stretch
Speaker 1: of like three or four years where he had like
Speaker 1: fifty sacks altogether. I mean J. J. Watt was a
Speaker 1: pure animal. And then of course you're gonna say Reggie White, Yes,
Speaker 1: the Minister of Defense was murdering cats on the edge,
Speaker 1: but he was really a de tackle because when you
Speaker 1: switch him inside, he was unstoppable bull. So you know,
Speaker 1: if I don't know where, that's my top five right now,
Speaker 1: you know, like top five, top five, and it's probably
Speaker 1: gonna have to take Keith Mollard out to then insert
Speaker 1: Chris Jones ish maybe one of my guys coming up
Speaker 1: on the podcast, cause you know, a couple more years
Speaker 1: together and they could be looking quite different. You know,
Speaker 1: there's some monsters in the middle. You salute to those guys.
Speaker 1: Let's get on to the next question. At Cat a Dog,
Speaker 1: do you think Alonte Taylor could be top ten within
Speaker 1: two to three seasons with his hunger and passion. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna take two or three seasons.
Speaker 1: You know, I think that he wants to get better,
Speaker 1: and he is getting better each and every game. So
Speaker 1: top ten if not next season, sure, two seasons. I
Speaker 1: don't know by three three, Like, he's not a project.
Speaker 1: He's ready. Eve been pride and ready since he got in.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of respect for Alante, So I'm
Speaker 1: expecting the greatest of the biggest of things, you know,
Speaker 1: as we edge out this season as well as headed
Speaker 1: into the next season. So the next question would be,
Speaker 1: ooh at stay true, dot s. What's one Falcon pastor
Speaker 1: president you would love to have on the Saints playing
Speaker 1: right now? None of them? If I had to go
Speaker 1: with one, it's gonna be an obvious answer. Here. Draft
Speaker 1: class two thousand eleven. You know they call you the
Speaker 1: turbo Jets. Whatever it was in fifty to fifty ball
Speaker 1: was really a ninety ten. His name is Julio Jones.
Speaker 1: You know when this man came into the league, he
Speaker 1: took the league by storm, ran like a four to
Speaker 1: three with the broken foot came in and I mean
Speaker 1: his yards is impressive. Anytime he trust the field, you
Speaker 1: were nervous, you know, it used to be rightighty white
Speaker 1: on one side, Julio Jones and the other, and then
Speaker 1: you had to worry about whatever the myriad of whatever
Speaker 1: attacks that is right that Atlanta had, But you were
Speaker 1: really concerned about the Julio Jones. So then I'm off.
Speaker 1: Go ahead and at the SHASMN nine nine nine nine.
Speaker 1: And how much do you miss sacking Matt Ryan? I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, man, we had chances, we had chances to
Speaker 1: be even more special than we already had a special
Speaker 1: connection of twenty three sacks and twenty four games playing
Speaker 1: against each other. It's not bad then you think about,
Speaker 1: you know, just the good times. I miss him a lot. Heck, guy,
Speaker 1: so I'm on the sidelines and I had to get
Speaker 1: one last time for the one last time. Next time,
Speaker 1: I'll give him a proper handshake. You know, he's a
Speaker 1: good guy, great man, you know, former NFLMVP. Anyways, that's
Speaker 1: probably all the positives I have to say about Atlanta Falcon.
Speaker 1: That's back to back. The next question, maybe the last question,
Speaker 1: because this was what hurt at Owen underscore. Oli font
Speaker 1: do you think the Saints would have won the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl in twenty eighteen if they called PI? I think
Speaker 1: the Saints would have won if they called you know,
Speaker 1: p I the head on Drew Brees. I mean, just
Speaker 1: do the right thing. You had. You had multiple calls
Speaker 1: that were in fractions that play. If you just want
Speaker 1: to go ahead and be a great, you know person
Speaker 1: at your job, rep, go ahead throw the flag on
Speaker 1: one of two serious implications there. Anyways, these are apparently
Speaker 1: just scripes. All keep on caring. Just is what it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that puts the damp it on the mood. And I
Speaker 1: knew it was going to all right. So at this point,
Speaker 1: you know, I just want to just say, when we
Speaker 1: come back from this break, I'm gonna bring in my
Speaker 1: guy Jeffrey Simmons, d tackle Tennessee Titans. Stay tuned. But
Speaker 1: I appreciate you tapping in with me, you know on
Speaker 1: my podcast Off the Edge. You know, it's not just
Speaker 1: about DNS, about the interior pushes about it's about the game. Really,
Speaker 1: it's just about those you know, off the edge, off
Speaker 1: the edge of your seat type questions. I appreciate my
Speaker 1: guy Jeffrey Simmons, Big Jeff l hefe if you will
Speaker 1: coming through on the pod. You know, just a multiple
Speaker 1: time pro bowler, a couple of times, been a second
Speaker 1: team All Pro, and I just want to get into that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, everything that you do is just a testament
Speaker 1: to the work you put in. I saw you this
Speaker 1: off season, you know what I'm saying. You were fresh
Speaker 1: off the surgery. We was talking about past rushing and
Speaker 1: then you already five and half se Sax said, with
Speaker 1: six games left, just going, just going federal. What do
Speaker 1: you give thanks to for just how you've been so
Speaker 1: oppressive the last couple of years?
Speaker 3: First off man, Honestly, it just with me personally, you know,
Speaker 3: especially in the off season.
Speaker 2: You know, I go out to Dallas.
Speaker 3: You know I have I had an uncle who played
Speaker 3: in the NFL for ten years, Jason Hatcher. A lot
Speaker 3: of older guy know him who you know played against
Speaker 3: him or played with him. But you know, a lot
Speaker 3: of the stuff I do in the off season, you know,
Speaker 3: I do it with him, do a lot of my
Speaker 3: training with him, and you know, and throughout the year,
Speaker 3: you know, even during the games, you know, I maybe
Speaker 3: adding air now and then and go to my locker
Speaker 3: and I just know I have a text message from him.
Speaker 3: You know, keep your feet moving, you know, stave the
Speaker 3: ground or whatever. It may be especially here in Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Man having a coach like Vrabel and you know, coach
Speaker 3: T big t Will, you know, just to try to
Speaker 3: keep emphasizing on my technique.
Speaker 2: That's that's a.
Speaker 3: Lot of that's a lot that a lot of things
Speaker 3: that have to do with me, you know, not winning
Speaker 3: sometimes it's because of me, you know, even when I'm
Speaker 3: getting double team, you know, and I remember you, I
Speaker 3: remember going back to von Miller thing where you say
Speaker 3: they just in a way, and that's you know a
Speaker 3: lot of people took that the wrong way, but it's
Speaker 3: true because you know, when we get when we not
Speaker 3: winning all reps, it's stuff that we're doing, stopping our feet,
Speaker 3: you know, not using our hands, maybe missing a swipe
Speaker 3: because honestly, man, like my coach hit me all the time.
Speaker 3: You know, you you what's your technique good?
Speaker 2: You use your hands, your feeding on stop who can
Speaker 2: block you in this league?
Speaker 3: So man, just the testing into them guys like especially
Speaker 3: in our building each and every day reminded me of
Speaker 3: my technique. And you know, just try to keep keep
Speaker 3: keep it going, man, try to be more consistent, consistent
Speaker 3: with it, especially with my technique. So other than that, Man,
Speaker 3: just you know, just trying to get where you're at. Man,
Speaker 3: A hundred sacks, That's that's the goal for me. Man,
Speaker 3: you know, still early in my career for sure, but
Speaker 3: you know that's especially coming from an interior guy. You
Speaker 3: know that that's a goal, especially just watching great guy
Speaker 3: like you. Man just still after old headed in this lead,
Speaker 3: is still getting after after the quarterback.
Speaker 1: So youah, hurt. I mean, I mean, that's it's impressive
Speaker 1: what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: You know you talk about that, but that's what led
Speaker 1: to you signing that bag this off season. You know,
Speaker 1: we talked about it. Next thing, I know, you know
Speaker 1: you you signed through twenty four. You know, you're clearly
Speaker 1: there's a reason why it's not just about dollars. There's
Speaker 1: a reason why you believe in Titans righting the ship
Speaker 1: and going ahead and believing in not only yourself but
Speaker 1: the team to have success in the long run. What
Speaker 1: makes you think that they'll be Super Bowl contender soon?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: I think the culture. You know, it started with our
Speaker 3: head coach, coach Rabel. I don't know if you really
Speaker 3: know him as as as much as I do I
Speaker 3: know him right now, but man, I just I believe
Speaker 3: in what he preaches.
Speaker 2: I believe in what they're trying to build around here.
Speaker 3: Just that you know, from when I first got here
Speaker 3: in Tennessee, man, like I just I knew, just a
Speaker 3: this is a winning like culture like what he's trying
Speaker 3: to preach. And you know, of course, like these last
Speaker 3: two years, like you know, you call it what it is.
Speaker 3: You know, we haven't been doing them. We haven't been
Speaker 3: all been playing our best football. And and when you
Speaker 3: when you turn on the tape and I know, and
Speaker 3: I know you can say the same thing, like when
Speaker 3: you turn on that tape and you like, I get
Speaker 3: this team is pretty good, but that's no way they
Speaker 3: should have beat us, you know, and you turn on
Speaker 3: that tape and where you just constantly keep being yourself.
Speaker 3: You know, of course it looked bad on the outside
Speaker 3: every time.
Speaker 1: So it's like there's like there's in a game, there's
Speaker 1: two or three plays you can really pinpoint, Like, bro,
Speaker 1: if we had these two plays back, we're talking about
Speaker 1: different stories most definitely.
Speaker 3: And that's and that's the that's the pretty much that's
Speaker 3: something of all season so far. Man Like if we'd
Speaker 3: be like here, play here, like play here, and then
Speaker 3: it's like every play is someone new, like maybe on
Speaker 3: front end, maybe on the linebackers don't wanted to play,
Speaker 3: or the DV like it just you know, and I'm
Speaker 3: just honestly feel man that you know, him and Verbel
Speaker 3: and Ran they're gonna keep building you know, this team
Speaker 3: to where and get it back to where it was
Speaker 3: at when I first got here my first year, I
Speaker 3: think last yeah, last year is my first year since
Speaker 3: I've been in the league with this is my fifth
Speaker 3: year now, so my fourth year into the league, with
Speaker 3: my first time not making a playoff, you know, and
Speaker 3: and I honestly believe that, you know, eventually we'll we'll
Speaker 3: get back to that. You know, who says that we
Speaker 3: can't this year? You know we of course we four
Speaker 3: and seven right now, and you look at the record
Speaker 3: and you'd be like, that's no we no way we're
Speaker 3: gonna make the playoffs. But honestly, we only played to
Speaker 3: the two of our division games with what we got
Speaker 3: the coach this weekend and we haven't even played the
Speaker 3: Texans yet. We got to play them twice and also
Speaker 3: got the Jacksonville Jacksonville one more time, so all division
Speaker 3: is still in front of us. And everything that we
Speaker 3: won't still in front of us. And I know I
Speaker 3: believe in this team, and I believe in you know,
Speaker 3: the upstairs pieces that put us together to come continue
Speaker 3: to have, you know, create them pieces around us to
Speaker 3: make us a contender for sure.
Speaker 1: No doubt. Six games of Bro, you can rattle up
Speaker 1: them wins and really be sitting there either like Bro,
Speaker 1: go crazy, be said at ten and seven, nobody's talking
Speaker 1: about finish nine and eight. You can still have a
Speaker 1: chance at playoffs. I mean, you know, with you, Bro,
Speaker 1: let's just talk about, you know, beyond.
Speaker 2: Them for seven?
Speaker 1: Right, you scored a tuddy last week. I saw the
Speaker 1: gritty like not last week. I guess it was that
Speaker 1: week eleven. You know, it was my bye week. I'm
Speaker 1: just sitting on the couch watching TV and I see
Speaker 1: big Man in the in the flat. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. With with the with the score and hold
Speaker 1: on to the ball like you didn't fumblingly, you knew
Speaker 1: what you was doing, and then you hit a gritty.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna talk about the gritty. I just want
Speaker 1: to talk about yeah, yeah, you and Mike said grit.
Speaker 3: The gritty just was you know, it's just one of
Speaker 3: the things kind of it reminded me of the guy
Speaker 3: from the memory from Miami just second.
Speaker 2: Yeah the picture now, but it reminded.
Speaker 3: Me of him, like, you know, you can't I can't
Speaker 3: do the gritty, but I'm still do it just.
Speaker 1: To you know, put it out there.
Speaker 2: Put it out there.
Speaker 1: Stick stick to the stick to the waist up shot please,
Speaker 1: you know you know, yeah, but you didn't drop that
Speaker 1: thing though, Like you know what I'm saying. It was
Speaker 1: it was one to the flat. You knew what she
Speaker 1: was on.
Speaker 2: I knew. I knew earlier that week.
Speaker 3: They was like, you know, well, I'm gonna say the
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks, you know, I've been getting in
Speaker 3: the offense, you know, going block, and it just so
Speaker 3: happened that there was like I had three plays up,
Speaker 3: I had a short yarded, I had that play, and
Speaker 3: then I had that blocking plate early in that game
Speaker 3: where I went and kicked out the end. But man,
Speaker 3: it was like when I was I was, I was
Speaker 3: waiting on the ball, like it literally felt like the
Speaker 3: ball was in the air for so long. It's like
Speaker 3: my hand was just I got to steal shot of
Speaker 3: my hand. Just I'm holding my hands up, like, is
Speaker 3: this ball gonna ever get to me?
Speaker 2: But man, I haven't caught a.
Speaker 3: Touchdown since my senior year of high school. So I
Speaker 3: was like, this one right here, I gotta catch it.
Speaker 3: I gotta this one, got to remember for the rest
Speaker 3: of my life, my first one in the NFL.
Speaker 2: So and uh twenty three.
Speaker 3: Actually, you know, I thought he got me pretty good
Speaker 3: and kind of popped me. So I was like, hold
Speaker 3: on to this ball and make sure I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying bring home. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now I feel good, though, man, big man, you know,
Speaker 3: that's a big man dream, especially initially being able to
Speaker 3: score a touchdown, so that's more definitely felt good.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir man, I saw that and I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, no, no, we gotta talk about it.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: I love one of these guys.
Speaker 3: It felt good, man, even, you know, even though I
Speaker 3: told one of my coaches, I was like, I was
Speaker 3: messing with my d line touch I said.
Speaker 2: He was like, I don't think you scored.
Speaker 3: I said, I did score, but listen, I wish it
Speaker 3: could have been another game where we was winning.
Speaker 2: It was getting beat by Like what what? I forgot
Speaker 2: what the scored at that time. But I was.
Speaker 1: Like when we were.
Speaker 3: When I got on the bus, I was like, you
Speaker 3: know what, we lost, But that's that's the moment that
Speaker 3: I never know, it may not happen ever again. So
Speaker 3: I'm gonna churich that moment. And you know, like I said,
Speaker 3: it felt good for getting.
Speaker 1: Sure, bro, because I've definitely had that play in our goal,
Speaker 1: our red zone whatever for our team. And we ran
Speaker 1: that thing for like seventy five times over like two
Speaker 1: or three weeks, and I was like, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: my time, and they never called my numbers, So I'm
Speaker 1: glad they called yours. You know what I'm saying, definite
Speaker 1: living for the boast of us because I'm clearly never
Speaker 1: gonna get that again. It's fine, It's fine, bro. It's
Speaker 1: more than just defense. With you, you're clearly officer side,
Speaker 1: but the second all pros, the sacks, everything that comes
Speaker 1: through the amount of work you put in. It feels
Speaker 1: like you play the run as well. Like we played
Speaker 1: you early, like the first game of the year. We
Speaker 1: knew like we had a game plan for you. How
Speaker 1: much do you pride yourself on, you know, being all
Speaker 1: around d tackle. You know, it's not just about sacks.
Speaker 1: It's about the run too. It's an all around game.
Speaker 3: Most definitely the first I'm gonna go back to that
Speaker 3: sentence game. I don't know what y'all had against me.
Speaker 2: That game.
Speaker 3: Y'all had y'all running backs, chipping me inside out, like
Speaker 3: it's a play where we call an interception. And every
Speaker 3: time I see that play, I just I get mad
Speaker 3: all over because it small way literally like I had
Speaker 3: a short reels for like two weeks.
Speaker 1: Right, you're gonna be excited to hear that.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: I told him after the game. He was like, Man,
Speaker 3: I was just doing my job. Man, you held of
Speaker 3: a pleasure doing my job. I'm like, yeah, that's that.
Speaker 3: That hurt pretty bad, you know, But nah, man, you
Speaker 3: know with me, Man, when I when I touched the field,
Speaker 3: man like run down, pass down, you know, running to
Speaker 3: the ball, getting out the stat That's what I live for,
Speaker 3: you know, because it's ways I want to try to
Speaker 3: separate myself from other defensive tackles in this league. You know,
Speaker 3: when I watch film, you know, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: he can rush the passer, he can stop to run.
Speaker 3: You know what can really separate me from all these
Speaker 3: other good defensive taking in the league.
Speaker 2: Which is a lot of them.
Speaker 3: You know, even in my class when I talk about
Speaker 3: like running to the ball, now I want to be
Speaker 3: around the ball. You know, you get a lot of
Speaker 3: de tackles, maybe going five yards, but you know you
Speaker 3: turn on the feel and you see me trying to
Speaker 3: chase down the screen thirty yard down the field. That's
Speaker 3: why I say, Okay, this is why I can separate
Speaker 3: myself from guys, you know, and not just getting sacks,
Speaker 3: because I mean, we all want sacks. But at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, I tell the media all the time,
Speaker 3: I think sometimes sack could get overrated, you you wiel like,
Speaker 3: you know, because it's way more game to I mean way,
Speaker 3: it's way more way to affect the game to get sacks.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I could set the edge as a three technique.
Speaker 3: I'm sure that my outside linebacker would love that, you know,
Speaker 3: so they could play off me, or you know, maybe
Speaker 3: the linebackers just could run through and made the tackle
Speaker 3: if I said the edge is a three technique. So man,
Speaker 3: I take pride in just the way I play the game.
Speaker 3: I play with a lot of passion. A lot of
Speaker 3: people say I talk a lot of smack, which I does.
Speaker 3: I talk a lot, but.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, like he don't turn
Speaker 2: down most.
Speaker 3: Definitely, bro, Like I mean, and I tell some people,
Speaker 3: I tell people like some people take it, you know,
Speaker 3: off the field and take it to heart. But at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, man, I'm just out there
Speaker 3: trying to feed my family.
Speaker 2: I'm out there. You know, this is what I love
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 3: Like I love the game of football, and each time
Speaker 3: I step on the field, its just released and I
Speaker 3: release that energy.
Speaker 2: And you know that's the way I play the game
Speaker 2: of football.
Speaker 3: Man, Like I play hard, you know, I say, maybe
Speaker 3: not just sax all the time, Like right now I
Speaker 3: wish I could have way more sacks, but that's just
Speaker 3: not happening right now. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: like I said, I still feel like I'm being a
Speaker 3: dominant force on the field. And you know, teams understand that.
Speaker 3: Team know that that you know you better not single
Speaker 3: block me out.
Speaker 1: You're gonna pay you better.
Speaker 3: You better have that running back ship for he side
Speaker 3: out most definitely. But man, you know, when you watch
Speaker 3: the game, when you've been you appreciate the game so much.
Speaker 3: And like I said, guys like watching guys like you
Speaker 3: who still you know, running out the stack and you know,
Speaker 3: chasing it, chasing the ball from backside. You know that
Speaker 3: that would make me appreciate the game even more, and
Speaker 3: that would make me.
Speaker 2: Play the game even harder. Man, So I appreciate you
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Look, hey, head coach from from the Jets.
Speaker 1: You know Robert Sala said, you know, sacks are an
Speaker 1: overrated stat You gotta look at you gotta look at
Speaker 1: the entire situation you just alluded to just that. Man.
Speaker 1: I think, bro, the show you put on this past weekend,
Speaker 1: you look at that stat line. Bro, it's tackles, it's TFLs,
Speaker 1: it's pressures, it sacks. You know, like that that complete
Speaker 1: game really showed up for you. How do you feel
Speaker 1: about like knowing y'all really sort of put the finisher
Speaker 1: on the head coach over there at Carolina, Bro, Like
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you talk about it, but like right
Speaker 1: after y'all got done with him, they fired their head coach,
Speaker 1: Frank Reich out of there.
Speaker 2: That is true, Man.
Speaker 3: I played against coach Frank when he was with the Coachs,
Speaker 3: and it's kind of like the same thing happened to
Speaker 3: him when he was the Coast.
Speaker 2: I kind of feel sorry for him, man, you know.
Speaker 3: Because when I was coming out of the draft, I remember,
Speaker 3: you know, he was the guy him and the owner
Speaker 3: for the Coast. It's a gym. He was like, you
Speaker 3: all guy, you know we're coming to get you if
Speaker 3: you're not drafted. I think they had a twenty eight pick,
Speaker 3: twenty sixth pick. It was like my year, and he
Speaker 3: was like, we're come to get you like you are
Speaker 3: guys now. I remember when I got picked by the
Speaker 3: Titan they traded out the first round, so I had
Speaker 3: a good relationship with them, So.
Speaker 1: You it's coming to get you like our guys.
Speaker 3: Know they like they reminded me, like up into the draft,
Speaker 3: like you all guy. But I ended up getting picked
Speaker 3: by Tennessee, which you know, I love it here but
Speaker 3: top stop playing. But nah, man, it sucks. But at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, man, we you know, this
Speaker 3: game don't got no feelings in it.
Speaker 2: This game.
Speaker 3: No team, like I said Week three and seven, like
Speaker 3: no team care about that. Like at that point in time,
Speaker 3: you know, we now we four and Steff, you think
Speaker 3: the coach is gonna come here. You know they need
Speaker 3: to get a win, Like nah, every time you step
Speaker 3: on the field, you better thinking about it. It could
Speaker 3: be my last now it's could be my last time coaching,
Speaker 3: so you better give your best forever but effort.
Speaker 2: But you know it sucks for him and such for
Speaker 2: his family. But we all know this a business.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, at the end of the day, it's a business.
Speaker 1: And you get reminded every day, especially on a loser season,
Speaker 1: that the revolving door get crazy. Guys, the practice squad
Speaker 1: starts going real quick, like you know the guys that
Speaker 1: you know, do you start signing people just like things
Speaker 1: that don't don't make sense. You're like everybody helped on
Speaker 1: new line you signed like two xtrad tackles to another
Speaker 1: DN you like looking like.
Speaker 2: Going on, what's myth? Is it me?
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying that that it creates instability
Speaker 1: and that's like you know that that's countertuitive of you know,
Speaker 1: winning sometimes definitely, but that with the Titans, you guys got.
Speaker 1: You guys got some guys. I mean, you got Will Levice.
Speaker 1: How much faith do you have in him going forward?
Speaker 1: He's some things I like. I like the way he
Speaker 1: spends that wrong.
Speaker 3: I like Will Man like I honestly feel like he
Speaker 3: our guy, you know, just to even before the game, man,
Speaker 3: like most of the time, you know, I break it
Speaker 3: down on the field, I break it down in the
Speaker 3: locker room right before we go back on the field.
Speaker 3: And and then something just told me. I said, will
Speaker 3: break it down. And it's like that list that lived
Speaker 3: like two minute speech he gave right.
Speaker 2: Before the game.
Speaker 3: I knew, like we'll gonna be real special just as leadership.
Speaker 2: You know, his will to one win.
Speaker 3: And you know you could tell even that practice man,
Speaker 3: like he haven't. And I just remember doing count and
Speaker 3: I remember, like I never you know, when you when
Speaker 3: you really you pay attention to quarterbacks, you know, doing practice.
Speaker 3: You know, during the game, we're just trying to sack them.
Speaker 3: But when you're now on your team, you try to
Speaker 3: see like, all right, this this the leader.
Speaker 2: This who's gonna lead our offense.
Speaker 3: And you know, when you see a quarterback like Will, man,
Speaker 3: just it's crazy how he released the ball and it's
Speaker 3: kind of just it's kind of wild me because sometimes
Speaker 3: cause I'm like he got a quick release and this
Speaker 3: and that, like you know, but overall, man, like you know,
Speaker 3: I'm excited for our frture with Will, even the rest
Speaker 3: of the season. You know, I think once our offense,
Speaker 3: you know, completely get back rolling. You know, last week
Speaker 3: we had a lot of sparks. They showed a lot
Speaker 3: that we have a lot of talent on.
Speaker 2: The offensive side.
Speaker 3: So you know, once we get back rolling and stay
Speaker 3: on that set the train, man, I think we will
Speaker 3: lead it off defense to great things and lead all
Speaker 3: team to great things because, like I said, with all defense.
Speaker 2: Man, like, you know, we can have his back.
Speaker 3: We got some good guys up front, you know, so
Speaker 3: I think once once we could continue to score points
Speaker 3: and you know, continue to get out the field and
Speaker 3: get well the ball.
Speaker 2: You know, great things can happen for us.
Speaker 1: No doubt. And all he got to do is turn
Speaker 1: around and hand that thing off to d Henry. Now
Speaker 1: stop playing.
Speaker 3: That's you know, That's why I said, we got some
Speaker 3: skilled guys and you know, Darren hearing then you got
Speaker 3: d Hop on the outside.
Speaker 2: So I'm excited for us. Man.
Speaker 1: Letting practice, even doing training, can you ain't really get
Speaker 1: to tag d Hop? What's it feel like tackling Derrick Henry?
Speaker 1: Like during training camp, during practice, like going after knowing
Speaker 1: that you're going up against one of the stronger runners
Speaker 1: in the game most definitely.
Speaker 2: You know we don't. We really never just take guy
Speaker 2: to the ground. But yeah, trust me.
Speaker 1: That's probably in his favor.
Speaker 3: If I'm like, if I see Darren coming through that
Speaker 3: B guy, for if I'm in the A gap, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to like, that's no reason for me to, like,
Speaker 3: you know, squibble up, like I'm going to put my
Speaker 3: pass down, put my head up and square him up
Speaker 3: because I didn't seen him, Like, I didn't see him
Speaker 3: run over like d liners and linebackers like they try
Speaker 3: to meet square him up in that hole and they
Speaker 3: tensed up and it's not good for him. So man,
Speaker 3: But it's crazy though on cam like when you I'm
Speaker 3: sure you didn't play with a lot of great teammates
Speaker 3: and guys who really worked for it. I don't know
Speaker 3: no one I worked there here, man, Like his time
Speaker 3: he put into the game before ball is crazy. In
Speaker 3: the off season, you know, we both are training Dallas
Speaker 3: with him, and he'd be telling me come run them
Speaker 3: dang heels.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Derek, I don't know about that. Man.
Speaker 1: Y'all got heels of Dallas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you ain't never seen the heel that he runs.
Speaker 1: No, look I've seen it. I didn't know he was
Speaker 1: in Dallas like that. Look I go sometimes the Florida,
Speaker 1: go find the big old rolling rolling Hillslade Joints, California, Dallas.
Speaker 3: The hell he is in Dallas. And now I'm like
Speaker 3: he was just know work out. I work out early
Speaker 3: in the morning. Then I work out and then I
Speaker 3: go back. I'm like, there, I get it. I get it,
Speaker 3: doll like everybody got their own routine. But man, but nah, man,
Speaker 3: even even during the season came like I was in
Speaker 3: the building yesterday and I'm sure like today, like there
Speaker 3: is always.
Speaker 2: In that building.
Speaker 3: He is in the weight room and you know he's
Speaker 3: in the training room and just the amount that he
Speaker 3: put into the game, and like it shows on Sundays
Speaker 3: and he continues to produce for us.
Speaker 2: So you know, it's good to have him as a teammate.
Speaker 1: Kd H stopped playing definitely last six games. But what
Speaker 1: else do you look forward to? Bro, Like six games left?
Speaker 1: How does your team capitalize? How do you capitalize? I
Speaker 1: mean six games? You could you could really rattle off
Speaker 1: these things.
Speaker 3: Now, how do we get ex Definitely? Man, And the
Speaker 3: good thing about it, you know the last six games.
Speaker 3: Of course, like we played the Coach this weekend, which
Speaker 3: you know, a run first team, and you know, the
Speaker 3: first time we played the Coach this year, it wasn't good.
Speaker 2: They ran the.
Speaker 3: Ball pretty good on that So that's gonna be the
Speaker 3: main key this week to stop the run. But we
Speaker 3: play a lot of teams who throw the ball the
Speaker 3: rest of the season. You know, we got the Dolphins
Speaker 3: that's a Monday night game, and we got the Texans
Speaker 3: who have been throwing the ball pretty good. So it's
Speaker 3: really that that will to that want to get to
Speaker 3: the quarterback. At the end of the day, you got
Speaker 3: to win your match up and be able to win
Speaker 3: your one on ones. And you know we're gonna see
Speaker 3: is is A is the team gonna give me opportunity
Speaker 3: to give me some one on ones and at the
Speaker 3: back end of the season so that no, come on, man,
Speaker 3: they playing all these people, all these guards, all these money.
Speaker 1: Man like your offensive line and still be trying to
Speaker 1: guard slide with tackles, hit the are you doing? Get
Speaker 1: help from the center?
Speaker 3: Were playing the Panthers last week. I'm like, I have
Speaker 3: a d n right here outside linebacker. Who WI you
Speaker 3: telling me, you still this taco still dragging on the three,
Speaker 3: Like what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Get outside and get out of there.
Speaker 3: But but now I'm looking forward to the back end
Speaker 3: of the season, like I said, like this team, man,
Speaker 3: we want to win, and you know, just the message
Speaker 3: we've been receiving, you know, each and ever, each and
Speaker 3: every week. You know, get back to the basic. You're
Speaker 3: not trying to create new things, especially later in the season.
Speaker 3: You know, just just just let's get back to winning.
Speaker 3: And like I said, win and take care of everything,
Speaker 3: the fun, the energy, and the building.
Speaker 2: So I'm excited for that.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm looking forward to us just trying to stack
Speaker 3: these wins. And you know, especially like I said, back
Speaker 3: to the personal side of me. You know, my goal
Speaker 3: is to finish double digit you know, I'm sitting there,
Speaker 3: I think like five and a half right now, and
Speaker 3: you know that's my goal. So i want to get
Speaker 3: them double digit sacks in the regular season, which I
Speaker 3: haven't got in my career yet. So I'm looking forward
Speaker 3: to the back end of the season and getting them sacks.
Speaker 1: Man, It's time to go get it, bro I got definitely.
Speaker 1: I just want to know that, like have you, Like
Speaker 1: we talked about, you know, the extension your goals are
Speaker 1: you are you saving? Are you saving? You know that
Speaker 1: the big purchase after you hit this double sack or like,
Speaker 1: have you bought anything you know rare yet?
Speaker 2: Have you?
Speaker 1: Have you gone into that? Oh? I need it yet?
Speaker 2: No? I mean I really haven't just purchased.
Speaker 3: You know, when I first got my did you know
Speaker 3: my my my my gold truck was always the coloring
Speaker 3: which I ended up getting. You know, I always wanted that,
Speaker 3: but what was definitely but it haven't I haven't really
Speaker 3: just got to that point where like, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe maybe the trip to Dubai after I get them
Speaker 3: ten satires of the season, Yeah, go ahead and book that.
Speaker 2: So outside of that, that's going to probably be the
Speaker 2: gift to myself big sheet status most definitely.
Speaker 3: Most definitely. But man, but man, that's that's something I want.
Speaker 3: I want to get to them sacks. And you know,
Speaker 3: like I said, if it don't happen, you know, I
Speaker 3: appreciate the game so much, and you know that what
Speaker 3: they have done for me just you know, especially the
Speaker 3: last five years and just being able to each each
Speaker 3: and every year too. You know, see how much I
Speaker 3: have grown as a player, and like I said, hopefully
Speaker 3: I'll get to them ten sacks. But you know, I'm
Speaker 3: sure these teams know that I'm coming. They're not going
Speaker 3: to just leave me one on one. So like I said,
Speaker 3: you never know, you just got to Like I'm sure
Speaker 3: you hit all the time, you just can't miss that
Speaker 3: opportunity when it when it do happen.
Speaker 1: Man, who I've had two sacks this yere taken away
Speaker 1: by penaltyes. I don't split. I split two sacks back
Speaker 1: then I hit a quarterback first and they still gave
Speaker 1: my sack to another player.
Speaker 2: I said, that happened to me. That happened to me.
Speaker 3: And also this past game, one of my like twice
Speaker 3: happened twice, literally happened twice my boy de Nico, which
Speaker 3: he had to this past game, which man, he don't
Speaker 3: get that, he don't get the respect he deserved. Man like,
Speaker 3: kill a player, and but he had he had the
Speaker 3: quart of the bryce wrapped up and he missed him,
Speaker 3: and I came in wrapped them up, missed him twice,
Speaker 3: so that actually I should have had three secs this
Speaker 3: past game.
Speaker 2: Man, Like, I'm just on them plays, man like, that's what.
Speaker 1: That's a that's an in house fine anytime you anytime
Speaker 1: you miss a sack and and all the D line, Bro,
Speaker 1: we charged it to the game, and we like we
Speaker 1: got to pay a toll. It goes towards O D
Speaker 1: line trip in the year. But like you had, like
Speaker 1: you miss a sack, that's that's a m obp, a
Speaker 1: missed opportunity of big play. You gotta get it. You
Speaker 1: gotta get it like you gotta get it back. I
Speaker 1: learned new things like this is why I love talking
Speaker 1: about my friends across the league, Bro, because you learn
Speaker 1: new things about your TV, your boys. I get to
Speaker 1: see you in the off season over von Miller's Rush Camp,
Speaker 1: past Rush Summit, whatever transforms into Bro. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you just showing up and talking and just
Speaker 1: vibing off of you know, soon to be legends of
Speaker 1: the game. But you know, I also learned, like you know,
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, coming out of high school, you
Speaker 1: knew you were the number two ranks strong side defensive end.
Speaker 1: Do you recall who the number one defensive end was
Speaker 1: when you come out of high school?
Speaker 3: Was it Rashaun Gary Nick Bosa?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: See listen, I went into all that. Coming out of college,
Speaker 3: I mean high school. I just knew about the Mississippi rankings.
Speaker 3: Then keep up with the with the you know, with
Speaker 3: the national rankings like that. Okay, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: You knew you knew Rashawn was in that class though.
Speaker 3: I know for sure the only reason why I knew
Speaker 3: Rashean was in it because I remember us on the
Speaker 3: official v No. It was a visit to Old Miss
Speaker 3: at the time. It was both the Old Miss at
Speaker 3: the same time one weekend.
Speaker 1: So oh yeah, yeah, I'm just looking at this twenty
Speaker 1: fifteen high school class was crazy. You Nick Bosa, Rashaan,
Speaker 1: Gary Desha, Lawrence Quinn Williams, had Oliver, Brian Burns, Justin Mattabuki,
Speaker 1: Derek Lordjesel Fire.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That and that college college across the nation was like
Speaker 1: we need.
Speaker 2: Him definitely, bro. That that was a crazy class.
Speaker 3: Even just being at the US Army game with all
Speaker 3: them guys like Derrick Brown in them.
Speaker 2: I was like, Yeah, if y'all we all could just
Speaker 2: go to college together, that'll be crazy.
Speaker 1: Bro, y'all could have created your dream team. Hey, you
Speaker 1: should look at you just you should have looked at
Speaker 1: Derek Brown, big dB be like, Bro, we gotta change
Speaker 1: the program.
Speaker 3: You and you know what's crazy? He was so close
Speaker 3: to coming to Mischievan state. His grandma is a mischievan state.
Speaker 3: Like her whole what I was told, like her whole
Speaker 3: living room were decorated with Missian state.
Speaker 1: Like you should have. You should have leaned in the ground.
Speaker 1: You can't let him aub You can't let you. You
Speaker 1: stick to SEC. He's gonna Auburn and you.
Speaker 2: You're right there.
Speaker 1: I don't know or you should have gone to Auburn.
Speaker 1: Either way, y'all should ya should have joined up? Like
Speaker 1: changing the program. Y'all could have been like the Georgia detail, Bro,
Speaker 1: like we don't change this year.
Speaker 2: I would have been I would have been crazy.
Speaker 1: Now that's even crazy thing. Anyways, I appreciate you, my boyfriend,
Speaker 1: tapping in everything that you do.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: Keep on being a living legend. That's crazy to think
Speaker 1: that you came in in that twenty nineteen draft class. Bro,
Speaker 1: Like wow, and now you've now you've big paid. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Go get your first team off
Speaker 1: pro Bro.
Speaker 3: You deserve it most definitely. I appreciate you much respect
Speaker 3: to you. Keep balling man, keep setting an example for
Speaker 3: us young boys.
Speaker 1: Man, man, we got to I get excited just to
Speaker 1: see the future of where this league is gonna be.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just got done talking to the Jeffrey Simmons.
Speaker 1: I mean, ell have fe bro for you know. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying he's from Louisiana. I feel like there's a
Speaker 1: connection there. But I've known my guy for quite a
Speaker 1: while and it's just a blessing to be able to
Speaker 1: talk to somebody like him, come from you know, come
Speaker 1: from Louisiana and went to Mississippi State. He hit the
Speaker 1: league and sort of sort of feels like he's he's
Speaker 1: the future, you know. But I appreciate you guys tapping
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