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Speaker 1: Here we come in the legal profession.
Speaker 3: There are contracts out there you should have worn too,
Speaker 3: and a lot of people try to act. Lady, know
Speaker 3: what a contract is and try to read the contract
Speaker 3: themselves and a comma or the word or or the
Speaker 3: word and can make a difference in what a contract means.
Speaker 3: Here to talk about contracts, talk about to strike, talk
Speaker 3: about acting, talk about what's going on in the world
Speaker 3: of entertainment. She's Houston based. Please work with the money
Speaker 3: Making Conversation masterclass. The one and only attorney Jayleen Max.
Speaker 4: How you doing, Jayleen, I'm doing fine. Thanks again for
Speaker 4: that wonderful intro and boy, I'm so glad to be
Speaker 4: back because you are you about to talk about a
Speaker 4: big deal in the entertainment industry. Contract so important that
Speaker 4: everybody knows what they're getting into. So I am here
Speaker 4: to talk about that.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this because a lot of people,
Speaker 3: you know, try and save a little money, try to
Speaker 3: save a little money, don't want talk to people like
Speaker 3: you now. And the air contracts that come from I'm
Speaker 3: gonna use the word reputable because you know they come
Speaker 3: from production companies, they come from studios. But that doesn't
Speaker 3: mean that that contract has your best your best your
Speaker 3: best uhitches you go your best interest if you sign it.
Speaker 1: Is that true or not?
Speaker 4: Well, you always have to remember that. Uh. There are
Speaker 4: two sides to the contract, right, you know, whoever's receiving
Speaker 4: the contractor whoever since the contract basically right, two sides
Speaker 4: in terms of whoever the drafter and the person you're
Speaker 4: entering into the contract is one party and then the
Speaker 4: person expected to the contract on the other side of
Speaker 4: the other party. So those are competing entrance interests already
Speaker 4: and inherently there's a conflict of interest. So I would
Speaker 4: rely on the studio to say Hey, we've offered you
Speaker 4: the perfect deal. Sign here really without counsel, without maybe
Speaker 4: my lawyer looking at it. If I don't have a manager,
Speaker 4: do I have an experience I'm sorry. If I'm a lawyer,
Speaker 4: do I have an experience manager to look at it.
Speaker 4: You know, I wouldn't sign without legal advice, that's for certain.
Speaker 4: And I will also say this, and I've said this
Speaker 4: many times, if you have an entertainment matter, do not
Speaker 4: take your entertainment matter to a real estate attorney. Don't
Speaker 4: take it to approbate attorney just because somebody has e
Speaker 4: SQ as a title at the end of their name, right,
Speaker 4: or they're attorney so and so and they have big
Speaker 4: commercials about eighteen wheel of wrecks. Do not take your
Speaker 4: entertainment contract to that lawyer. Find you a lawyer who
Speaker 4: has experienced and entertainment, specifically in the area of entertainment
Speaker 4: that your contract is related to. So, if you got
Speaker 4: a music issue, take it to a music lawyer. If
Speaker 4: you have a contract dealing with television in the unscripted space,
Speaker 4: make sure that lawyer has that type of experience a writer.
Speaker 4: Make sure that that lawyer has some experience with writing agreement.
Speaker 4: So that's where they where they need to start. First
Speaker 4: of all, have the right representation to take a look
Speaker 4: at that agreement to make sure that you know it's
Speaker 4: it's fair basically, and you get as much of the
Speaker 4: benefit of the bargain as you can.
Speaker 3: I want to bring something up here, Attorney Mac. I remember,
Speaker 3: you know, because I've represented people over the years. And
Speaker 3: then what was happening was especially in reality TV world,
Speaker 3: because these people are coming on these reality shows, especially
Speaker 3: like baking shows and these these a lot of shows
Speaker 3: that are uh you know, physical fitness shows, and they
Speaker 3: were leaving and get an endorsement or they will getting
Speaker 3: other TV opportunities, And it was almost like signing talent deals,
Speaker 3: you know, where you come on the show. It used
Speaker 3: to be you come on the show and used to
Speaker 3: get paid for the show, but then they feel they
Speaker 3: made you, put you in a position to be recognized
Speaker 3: and they want a percentage of your life or opportunity
Speaker 3: that you've received once you leave the show.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about it for T shirt sales.
Speaker 3: It could be if you have a bake where they
Speaker 3: can have something like that if you're a baker.
Speaker 1: These contracts still exist today.
Speaker 4: Correct, they do, and Oh my god, your timing is
Speaker 4: impactable because literally this morning I had a client that
Speaker 4: I had to advise on a I won't say the
Speaker 4: name of the show or the network, but it was
Speaker 4: a cooking related show and the contract was forty five
Speaker 4: pages long, let's start there. And not only did it
Speaker 4: have a number of issues related to if you make
Speaker 4: it to the show, because right it deals with if
Speaker 4: you what happens when you auditioned for the show, even
Speaker 4: what happens when you feel like application and maybe you
Speaker 4: make the show, and how many seasons are you going
Speaker 4: to be on the show, and then if we make
Speaker 4: you a success on the show, h we want the
Speaker 4: exclusive right to manage you. We want the exclusive rights
Speaker 4: to handle a TV deal with you. So it's almost
Speaker 4: like these record labels, you know, when the record of
Speaker 4: when record stores shut down and the record business change
Speaker 4: and everything with streaming now, the record labels had to
Speaker 4: figure out how to get a little bit of everything
Speaker 4: that you deal with. So even in this cooking space
Speaker 4: that you're talking about with this reality show, now, it's
Speaker 4: a very similar three sixty deal in a lot of cases,
Speaker 4: because we know reality shows have been so successful in
Speaker 4: building talent that they want a little bit of the
Speaker 4: money that they spent to build you as a talent,
Speaker 4: although they were getting paid well from average, right, we
Speaker 4: want a little bit of that back. So now they're
Speaker 4: going to tax you on the success that you got
Speaker 4: from their show. And how are they doing that? By example,
Speaker 4: with this cooking with a cooking show, as you even reference,
Speaker 4: they'll charge you a see called a business royalty because
Speaker 4: maybe you went out, you started cookbooks and you got
Speaker 4: popular on YouTube and you're making all these appearances as
Speaker 4: a chef. Or we're going to charge you a restaurant
Speaker 4: royalty because on our show, yeah, now you want to
Speaker 4: go and open up a full blown restaurant. We need
Speaker 4: our fifteen percent, we need our ten percent because we
Speaker 4: help build you. So that is definitely the trend that
Speaker 4: I'm seeing, especially in these competition based shows, because it's
Speaker 4: not like an unscripted reality show. Let's just say the
Speaker 4: Housewives of Atlanta. Those people get paid well, I mean
Speaker 4: Ninie Lakes. They have to get her out the way
Speaker 4: first on Housewives, and whatever little money's left over, it
Speaker 4: trickles down to everybody else because you know, she's the
Speaker 4: leading talent on that show. But with that being said,
Speaker 4: there's longevity, right, so yes, your your brand will build
Speaker 4: up over time. But that show has several seasons and
Speaker 4: there's lots of money to not only pay talent, but
Speaker 4: lots of money for that show to make coffee.
Speaker 1: You what is your dream?
Speaker 4: Did you?
Speaker 3: You've gotten a call from one of these networks and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stand that cooking lane, because that's why I'm at.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cook. So that's what I understand.
Speaker 3: And you're telling me, you know, I got my little
Speaker 3: my little TikTok, I got my little social.
Speaker 1: Media handles, and I go in, I is it anyway?
Speaker 3: Because you know in terminology, you know you can get
Speaker 3: contract you can strike through them and say I'm not
Speaker 3: going to do that. Are these contracts set up where
Speaker 3: hey almost like a taken a leader?
Speaker 4: Naturally? Yes they are because they know so I'll say this, Uh,
Speaker 4: sometimes I can sit back and say, you know what,
Speaker 4: everything is negotiable, but in reality only when you got
Speaker 4: a forty five page contract and the show is not
Speaker 4: in its infancy stage. This is a show that's the
Speaker 4: institution that has been going for years and they know
Speaker 4: for a fact that they make stars. The show rates
Speaker 4: well on television, and the buyers are lined up to
Speaker 4: take an ad to advertising the show, right. They know
Speaker 4: the show is successful and everybody wants to be on
Speaker 4: the show. If you're desperate enough, you will jump in
Speaker 4: bed with that devil and not get a chance to
Speaker 4: negotiate the things that really are important to you. Some
Speaker 4: of those things do become a take it or leave
Speaker 4: it position. But even when I look at those contracts
Speaker 4: as commoluted as they can be, you know, really really,
Speaker 4: I mean the small print type stuff. You got to
Speaker 4: take your time to read through every line. But I
Speaker 4: would still push for exclusion if I could, right, Meaning, Hey,
Speaker 4: I'm a chef, and I know I'm not a big
Speaker 4: name now, but I do have a food truck that's
Speaker 4: been doing well these last two years. And I know
Speaker 4: I'm only making, you know, three hundred thousand dollars a year,
Speaker 4: But if I come on this show, I might end
Speaker 4: up making three million dollars a year. I get that,
Speaker 4: But this little food truck is important to me. It's
Speaker 4: been in our family for a while. I put a
Speaker 4: lot of time, toil and chalel in it. I built
Speaker 4: it up, I built my brand around it, and I
Speaker 4: don't want to share this with the network. You have
Speaker 4: to specifically say that to these lawyers and these producers
Speaker 4: that I have some things that I want to exclude
Speaker 4: I don't want to share. And these things existed before
Speaker 4: this show came along, right, But it's important to make
Speaker 4: the argument.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but a lot of people may not have that,
Speaker 3: and they when they come on, they can blow up
Speaker 3: popularity tied to their social media, popularity, tied to just
Speaker 3: coming home.
Speaker 1: So it's important. I guess what I wanted to point out.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm talking to attorney jay Lee Mack, and
Speaker 3: we do I say the word Houston base, but our
Speaker 3: reach has expanded into Las Vegas, Nevada, Miami, Florida, Atlanta, Georgia,
Speaker 3: Los Angeles, California, New York, New York, Chicago, Illinois, Baltimore, Maryland,
Speaker 3: New Orleans, you know, Dubai. So you know, so that's
Speaker 3: a lot so of reach. That's a reach in the
Speaker 3: legal profession. And I only say she's uston base because
Speaker 3: that's what she said quartered. But more importantly, when I
Speaker 3: look at in my life, I've been so fortunate to
Speaker 3: have of legal guidance, and believe me, you know, the
Speaker 3: old axiom is that hey, you know, I don't want
Speaker 3: to pay nobody.
Speaker 1: It looks good to me. They wouldn't cheat me. Yes,
Speaker 1: they will, just do it, just do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it happens. No, no, it happens. I mean I
Speaker 4: will say, you know, there's a lot more integrity in
Speaker 4: the industry now and you can certainly work through your representatives.
Speaker 1: On come on, how is that you just told me
Speaker 1: this morning you saw this cover?
Speaker 4: Right? No, no, right, no, hear me out. What I
Speaker 4: mean by that is there are some factors in place
Speaker 4: to help you at least understand your deal and know
Speaker 4: what it is that you're dealing with, right, as opposed
Speaker 4: to being blindsided by the small print. So with that
Speaker 4: being said, what I mean is you do have your
Speaker 4: option to have your representative right negotiate this deal on
Speaker 4: your behalf or with you alongside of you. So that's
Speaker 4: the plus side of being in the business. But at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, Yeah, how much power do
Speaker 4: you really have? You're right, and if you're if you're
Speaker 4: trying to build your brand and this is the biggest
Speaker 4: stage you've ever been on and you want to parlay
Speaker 4: all that success and to an empire, it might be worth,
Speaker 4: you know, giving up some things, you know, for the
Speaker 4: next five years of your life, sharing some of your
Speaker 4: profits for the next few years after you've been successful.
Speaker 1: On the show.
Speaker 4: All of it might be worth it because you say, Okay,
Speaker 4: I got to out the good outweighs the bad. You know, yeah,
Speaker 4: it might cost me a million when it's all said
Speaker 4: and done, but I'm gonna walk away with four million.
Speaker 4: You got to weigh all those factors, right. I know,
Speaker 4: I'm dealing with high numbers that you know, some people
Speaker 4: may never research, but it sounds but.
Speaker 3: You know, something is reachable. It's happening out there, and
Speaker 3: that's the whole thing. That's why there they see it.
Speaker 3: That's why they got these contracts out there. They know
Speaker 3: it's happening. And so the reality they wouldn't have these
Speaker 3: type of contracts if it didn't happen at least one time.
Speaker 3: So you know the one time, it probably happened about
Speaker 3: two three times when they went hold up, hold Up.
Speaker 3: They getting television shows, they getting endorsement deals, and they
Speaker 3: were nobody untill they came on our show. And that's
Speaker 3: what is all. That's what it's all about. You know,
Speaker 3: whether you whether you a fitness person, do a Fitness show.
Speaker 3: Next thing you know on you you look over your
Speaker 3: Instagram account, you got a million followers.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: You look at your YouTube you got five hundred thousand subscribers,
Speaker 3: which means that you could be making anywhere from thirty
Speaker 3: thousand to one hundred thousand dollars a month depending on
Speaker 3: their views on your YouTube channel. So the important thing
Speaker 3: that Attorney j Lee Macket is saying, and I'm saying
Speaker 3: to anybody who's listening on to the show, is that
Speaker 3: if a contracts putting in front of you, find somebody
Speaker 3: who knows how to read it. Jayleen, I want to
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Speaker 3: the law was going to be a career for you.
Speaker 3: When we've come right back, I'm going to learn more
Speaker 3: about Houston Base but Dubai known Attorney Jayleen Mack, we'll.
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Speaker 1: Why why are you a lawyer?
Speaker 8: Mmm?
Speaker 4: Well, let me let me button this before we go on.
Speaker 4: I just want to put the caveat out there we
Speaker 4: were talking about earlier. All reality unscripted shows, competition, lifestyle,
Speaker 4: et cetera, will not have the same contract. But what
Speaker 4: we were talking about specifically was these new contracts that
Speaker 4: feel like these three sixty deals. So I just want
Speaker 4: I don't want to discourage anybody if you're trying to
Speaker 4: go on a reality show to know that to think
Speaker 4: that it's going to be such a difficult time or
Speaker 4: process for you. It may be something light, a lighter
Speaker 4: experience and uh, and you may not have some of
Speaker 4: the same things that these these competition shows have in
Speaker 4: their agreements versus if you were just going on a
Speaker 4: lifestyle show. So I just want to put that caveat
Speaker 4: out there, so whatever contract you get from that particular
Speaker 4: show would stand alone. And again I encourage everybody to
Speaker 4: get a lawyer to take a look at it, to
Speaker 4: go through it with you. So to go back to
Speaker 4: why am I a lawyer?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 4: So that's so funny because you know, I was an
Speaker 4: actress before I was a lawyer, and I still act
Speaker 4: to this day. But when I graduated from zay V
Speaker 4: University of Louisiana XU, yes, HBCU proud of it. I
Speaker 4: was at that fork in the road because I finished
Speaker 4: college in ninety and you had to figure out how
Speaker 4: do you make yourself way more marketable because everybody, you know,
Speaker 4: not anybody but printant people graduating from college. Right, So
Speaker 4: it was a matter of did I want to go
Speaker 4: to a graduate school, go into the workforce, or do
Speaker 4: I really wanted to pursue acting, right, And I really
Speaker 4: did want to be an actress, but I didn't want
Speaker 4: to be a starving actress. And so I thought, hmm,
Speaker 4: looking at everybody around me at the time that was
Speaker 4: famous having problems with management. Tony Braxton TLC, Kareem Jewel
Speaker 4: Jabbar when he was a basketball player, they were having
Speaker 4: problems with management, and that went back to they were
Speaker 4: having problems and accounting and such. They were having problems
Speaker 4: with their contracts, not understanding the small print. So I said,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be a lawyer because they teach you contracts
Speaker 4: in law school, and if I practiced law, that'd be
Speaker 4: my waitressing job. While I'm pursuing an acting career. They
Speaker 4: want to be a starving artist. It was that plain
Speaker 4: for me. That's simple. And of course they keep you
Speaker 4: contracts in your first year. So had I failed law school,
Speaker 4: at least I have known about contracts. I could my own,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 10: But I passed.
Speaker 4: I passed all years. I passed the bar the first
Speaker 4: time and didn't have a problem, But I did firing
Speaker 4: a way to marry the two careers, practicing as a
Speaker 4: lawyer and practicing in the entertainment industry. And although I
Speaker 4: had plenty of other experience in other areas of the law,
Speaker 4: because I used to be a litigation attorney. I did
Speaker 4: family laws, criminal cases, landlord tenant disputes. I did a
Speaker 4: gambit of things in the general practice. But my love
Speaker 4: was in arts and entertainment, and so that is literally
Speaker 4: how I got to become a lawyer. I wasn't a
Speaker 4: person that was born and said, oh, I want to
Speaker 4: be a lawyer, you know. At six years old, I
Speaker 4: did not know I wanted to be a lawyer until
Speaker 4: I was at that four K in the road in
Speaker 4: my senior year of college.
Speaker 1: Wow, let me ask you this.
Speaker 3: So now you know, we're surrounded by this incredible strike
Speaker 3: that's out there, and you know, the actors are striking,
Speaker 3: which is sad.
Speaker 1: The writers are striking with WGA and then you.
Speaker 3: Turn around and you see, you know, Barbie is across
Speaker 3: the billion dollar box office worldwide. Oppenheimer, you know, is
Speaker 3: flying up to four hundred million about the five hundred
Speaker 3: million dollars worldwide.
Speaker 1: What is the problem?
Speaker 3: You know, are the what are the actors acts asking for?
Speaker 3: And what are the writers asking for? Should I? Should
Speaker 3: I have that conversation separately? Ask me, because you an
Speaker 3: actor actress?
Speaker 1: Yes, whether the actors.
Speaker 3: Acting asking for that the that the studios are resisting.
Speaker 4: So it's a it's a number of things that's been happening,
Speaker 4: but at the core of it, it's more money, better
Speaker 4: working conditions, improvement of safety, and uh more passive income,
Speaker 4: right because with the big streamers coming along, but the
Speaker 4: revidual income it's almost like non existent. And I've myself
Speaker 4: been that person to open up the envelope gotten the
Speaker 4: check and all I see is seventy five cents.
Speaker 3: Orlo Hodo, Holdo Sturney j Lee, Matt, you've got the
Speaker 3: residual check is seventy five cents.
Speaker 4: I had one that was less than a dollar, and
Speaker 4: I think it was the movie Hurricane Season, if I'm
Speaker 4: not mistaken, and I did that like two thousand and eight.
Speaker 4: So I will say old movies tend to pay you
Speaker 4: less residuals, right, because they've been out for so long.
Speaker 4: But residuals used to be thousands of dollars. Like you
Speaker 4: live for a residual check. Now you don't even run
Speaker 4: to the mail box. Sometimes I don't even open those shoes.
Speaker 4: I got a check, two checks sitting on my desk
Speaker 4: right now that I haven't cast yet, because like one's
Speaker 4: less than one hundred bucks, and I don't know what
Speaker 4: the other one is, but total they probably weren't quite
Speaker 4: two hundred bucks. And so that's for somebody who's in
Speaker 4: between jobs, right, or somebody who hasn't worked for a
Speaker 4: while on a union project that's paid significantly. They're living
Speaker 4: check to check, especially if they're not getting large residuals.
Speaker 4: And that's why it's important as a creative to have
Speaker 4: more than one stream of income. That's why you have
Speaker 4: directors who are producers, producers who are are writers. Right,
Speaker 4: as an actor, you shouldn't just be an actor. You
Speaker 4: should be writing as well. You should be a producer
Speaker 4: developing your own projects. You have to create multiple streams
Speaker 4: of income. And Jayleen Mack is not just an actress.
Speaker 4: I'm not a fool. I need to earn a living,
Speaker 4: especially living in a market that's not a typical entertainment
Speaker 4: market such as Houston.
Speaker 1: So what do I do.
Speaker 4: I'm also a lawyer, so I don't have to worry
Speaker 4: about well, I don't have an acting gig, but I
Speaker 4: also produce, and I also write, and I'm also an
Speaker 4: Arthur Right, I'm also a philanthropist that I have a foundation,
Speaker 4: and so I've had these multiple hats that I get
Speaker 4: to wear in the industry. That makes a lot of
Speaker 4: sense for the industry because obviously there's only so many areas,
Speaker 4: so many industries that you can be in when you
Speaker 4: wear these multiple hats in your hybrids. Because when you
Speaker 4: start to get in other areas, like I don't know,
Speaker 4: let's say you're a nurse, maybe you're still just a nurse.
Speaker 4: You're just in a specialized area. But you don't wear
Speaker 4: multiple hat right, You don't necessarily say, well, I'm a
Speaker 4: nurse and then I'm a TV producer and I'm a
Speaker 4: you know or whatever, because it may not necessarily make
Speaker 4: sense in that industry, but in the entertainment industry, multiple
Speaker 4: hats for multiple streams of revenue make a lot of
Speaker 4: sense because that's just how it works.
Speaker 3: Right, turning Mac, how does one get in touch with you?
Speaker 3: You know there's a direct number at your office that
Speaker 3: one can call.
Speaker 4: Yes, how does that work? Yes? Yes, they're welcome to
Speaker 4: call the numbers seven one three six sixty one MAC,
Speaker 4: which stands for seven one three sixty six one six
Speaker 4: two two five. So if they don't remember seven one
Speaker 4: three sixty sixty one MAC, and then they can find
Speaker 4: me at Jaalen maac dot com. They can find me
Speaker 4: on social media at Jlen Mac on all the channels. Uh,
Speaker 4: LinkedIn is a great place to find me, or as
Speaker 4: they say, google me.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know, I just you know.
Speaker 3: They always to put teacher disclaimers out there. On my show,
Speaker 3: Seine has a relationship with somebody on this show where
Speaker 3: I do have a relationship, a business relationship with her.
Speaker 3: She's representing my trademark business for at least over twenty years,
Speaker 3: you know, and so I go, she's her firm has
Speaker 3: been my go to firm for trademarks now, because in
Speaker 3: the business you have to have people you trust, you
Speaker 3: have to have people you cannot you know a lot
Speaker 3: of people go, well, you know, if you just put
Speaker 3: your trademark in an envelope and then you mail it
Speaker 3: back to yourself and don't break the seal, it's registered. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: But people believe that because they can google that information
Speaker 3: and that's what it will say. Just like people use
Speaker 3: they cure themselves or try to cure themselves by doing
Speaker 3: being there doctor, by going on social media, going on
Speaker 3: the website and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Internet. So as we wrap this up, you know, can
Speaker 1: you say one thing.
Speaker 3: That people shouldn't do in this business that they're continually
Speaker 3: doing to frustrates you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the leading thing as I mentioned before, you know,
Speaker 4: not going to the proper lawyer, uh to handle your
Speaker 4: legal legal matter. And that's in any case you know,
Speaker 4: we can get outside of entertainment law, even if it's
Speaker 4: a divorce attorney. You wouldn't want to go to a
Speaker 4: real estate attorney, right, Or if you need a will done,
Speaker 4: you wouldn't necessarily want to go to your corporate attorney.
Speaker 4: So make sure your representative is experienced to handle the
Speaker 4: issue that you have when it comes to contracts. Even
Speaker 4: if you don't have a lawyer and you try to
Speaker 4: prepare a contract yourself, if you take one off the internet,
Speaker 4: a general template you know that's a that has blank lines,
Speaker 4: or you find a contract that's a TV contract that's
Speaker 4: filled out, but it's online and in somebody else's contract.
Speaker 4: You cannot take the contract and just fill in the
Speaker 4: blanks and think that it's completely been negotiated or it
Speaker 4: makes sense for your situation. You really do have to
Speaker 4: read through it to know and understand what it is
Speaker 4: you're feeling in and why or what else about the
Speaker 4: contract might need to be changed. Even if you feel
Speaker 4: it out yourself and you feel like, ah, I saved
Speaker 4: some money, well, I don't know if that thaves you
Speaker 4: some money. It costs you some money.
Speaker 10: But what you know what I mean, because but what
Speaker 10: I will tell you is find a way to put
Speaker 10: it fide some type of legal funds to even have
Speaker 10: a lawyer, take a look at the contract that you've
Speaker 10: prepared yourself for extra pair of eyes.
Speaker 4: Right or.
Speaker 3: You know you got to do it that way, Attorney
Speaker 3: Jayleen Mac. As usual, I run out of time. You're
Speaker 3: just an incredible guess. I would appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Can you give out that phone number one more time
Speaker 1: if we close out the show?
Speaker 4: Absolutely seven one three sixty six ' one mac or
Speaker 4: they're welcome to make an email me at info at
Speaker 4: Jlenmac dot com. Jayalenmac dot com is a website Jayleen
Speaker 4: Mac on all social media and I'm here to assist.
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, and I want to thank oh my
Speaker 3: my friends and family that's who listen toes show. You
Speaker 3: are my friends, you are my family again. I'll be
Speaker 3: back next week with another great episode of Money Making
Speaker 3: Conversation Masterclass.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jayleen Mack, Attorney.
Speaker 4: Max, thank you.
Speaker 1: Having from Houston to Dubai. That's right, so I say
Speaker 1: bye bye.
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