Speaker 1: And That's what You Really Missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Welcome to and That's What Your Really miss Podcast. This
Speaker 1: is Season three, Episode seven, I Kissed a Girl controversial.
Speaker 1: A controversial episode, Kevin, the fans have spoken.
Speaker 2: Because you don't want to get on the bad side
Speaker 2: of Britanna fans.
Speaker 1: Never, no, no, no, the fans have spoken. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get into this. This is a kiss the Girl
Speaker 1: and this aired on November twenty nine, two thousand and eleven. Crazy, Yes,
Speaker 1: we are. We're almost as sectionals. Can you believe it?
Speaker 2: I'm so what's crazy is we're going from this episode,
Speaker 2: which is not the most favorite of Glee fans online,
Speaker 2: and then next episode is so good and loved and
Speaker 2: we have lots of core memories from that.
Speaker 1: So many.
Speaker 2: So let's carefully wade into the waters. I kissed a Girl.
Speaker 2: Less is more. The number one song was We Found
Speaker 2: Love Again?
Speaker 1: Okay, this is this is Twilight. Number one movie was
Speaker 1: Twilight Saga Breaking one. I have seen this. I think
Speaker 1: I've seen two number one movies in this entirety for
Speaker 1: the entirety of I know, right, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think we had a lot of time to be
Speaker 2: going to the movies. To be honest, we had I
Speaker 2: don't basically one and three quarters of a day off,
Speaker 2: you know, because you like go into Saturday morning Friturday
Speaker 2: and then you'd have Sunday was like your day, but
Speaker 2: then you had to get up early on Monday.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to the movie theater in that time,
Speaker 1: That's right. The only time I'm going to a movie
Speaker 1: theater is like a ten am Sunday matinee. It's my favorite.
Speaker 2: That's all. We could do.
Speaker 1: So quiet in the theater and nobody's there.
Speaker 2: You're on row, you get out and it's still light.
Speaker 2: It's so nice.
Speaker 1: My favorite.
Speaker 2: So some glean news of this week. On November twenty second,
Speaker 2: twenty eleven, the Karaoke Revolution Glee Volume three was released
Speaker 2: on the sinto we in Xbox three sixty. It had
Speaker 2: thirty four songs from the show second season and included
Speaker 2: a microphone for the players to say, who had this?
Speaker 1: Do you remember that they sent us whees with our
Speaker 1: pictures like plaster?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we didn't. They stopped after the first volume.
Speaker 2: We didn't get volume two and three. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: we only had this one.
Speaker 1: Who had this?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, well it's it sounds fun.
Speaker 2: If you played it, I hope you enjoyed yourselves, because
Speaker 2: we didn't play it.
Speaker 1: No, we did not. But this we were doing the
Speaker 1: real thing. The This was directed by Tate Donovan.
Speaker 2: It was and I really liked the directing.
Speaker 1: I noticed that, Yes, he did a very nice job
Speaker 1: with a lot of brands going on. This is written
Speaker 1: by our dear friend Matt Hodgson. And Matt was has
Speaker 1: made his way up in the world. He started as
Speaker 1: an assistant to Ryan Murphy and he's he was now
Speaker 1: he's now a writer on many writing Murphy shows and
Speaker 1: a dear friend of ours. So I had to have
Speaker 1: him here.
Speaker 2: Is this why he's gotten so much flack on Twitter?
Speaker 2: Is this episode?
Speaker 1: Why this episode? Perhaps, again we've said this before, he
Speaker 1: did not write this whole entire episode by himself. It
Speaker 1: is a collective and then contractually everybody gets an episode
Speaker 1: so they can get paid for their script. That's really
Speaker 1: all it is. In particular, it rotates, don't come for Hodson.
Speaker 1: He's a he's a sweet, sweet man. Oh the sweetest
Speaker 1: love Hodson. But he really got so much shit that
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, it was like he was solely responsible
Speaker 1: for anything bad that happened to Santana. Oh no, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: That's not how it worked. We'll have to ask him
Speaker 1: when we see him. We're saying those soon. So okay.
Speaker 1: The songs in this episode, wow, wowow. Okay, it's eclectic,
Speaker 1: it is, but they're all but it's not yeah yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: ladies and music.
Speaker 2: So they're either part of the LGBT community or they're
Speaker 2: very vocal and art and supporters of the LGBT community.
Speaker 2: You have Perfect by Pink, I'm the Only One by
Speaker 2: Melissa Etheridge, Girls Just want to have Fun by Cindy Lapper,
Speaker 2: but it's the great Glasswell version. Jolene by Dolly Parton,
Speaker 2: I Kissed a Girl by Katie Perry, and Constant Craving
Speaker 2: by Katie Lange.
Speaker 1: I will say all the songs, Gamey, goose Bumps. The
Speaker 1: performances of the songs also looked real, really good, like
Speaker 1: in particular Joelene with the lighting in the election in
Speaker 1: the gymnasium. It was not your typical glee number looking number.
Speaker 2: But he was doing I think because there was not
Speaker 2: dancing happening. There wasn't a lot going on in some
Speaker 2: of these but even when there was even when the
Speaker 2: Troubletones did some dancing, I liked the way the handheld
Speaker 2: camera looked and how it was pushing into different characters
Speaker 2: and catching reactions or even the vocals, and I thought
Speaker 2: it was nice to see something as like simple as that,
Speaker 2: but it was still refreshing, something that felt like we
Speaker 2: haven't done or done a lot of.
Speaker 1: A lot of storytelling. And Tate is an actor, right,
Speaker 1: so I mean everybody's storytellers in the industry, but like
Speaker 1: Tate as an actor was very actor friendly. Obviously with
Speaker 1: Naya's whole performance, even despite the the lack of time
Speaker 1: that they had to really dive into the storyline, the
Speaker 1: moments he caught were you like Eric Stultz esk he
Speaker 1: always caught moments like you know, like in the Adel Mashup.
Speaker 2: I think every director comes in with their own perspective,
Speaker 2: whether they're an actor or not, right, But I think
Speaker 2: knowing that how important those reactions can be as an
Speaker 2: actor hoping that the camera's catching it, then I think,
Speaker 2: you know they're on the lookout for that because they
Speaker 2: know how that can really add to a story, even
Speaker 2: if it's not in the script.
Speaker 1: There's a lot that happens in this episode. There's arguably
Speaker 1: too much that happens in this episode.
Speaker 2: And also not enough.
Speaker 1: Agreed. It's funny though, because you think about you have
Speaker 1: twenty two episodes. There are some episodes that are truly
Speaker 1: just filler, right. They are transitional episodes to get to
Speaker 1: the next you know, climax or store, you know, huge peak,
Speaker 1: and for this one, it feels like there are sixteen
Speaker 1: peaks that have happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, the balance of this episode is
Speaker 2: range or there's a lack of balance, I would say,
Speaker 2: And I would also say, this is the culmination of
Speaker 2: a very important storyline, and then it the things that
Speaker 2: you might want to see as an audience, you don't
Speaker 2: necessarily see. You only get a little taste of other things.
Speaker 2: It's a well, that's what sounds like.
Speaker 1: The biggest uh problem that people had this episode was
Speaker 1: the lack let's let's let's dive in.
Speaker 2: So there's some fun facts about this episode.
Speaker 1: Oh let's go.
Speaker 2: This is the sixth episode to feature a song with
Speaker 2: the same title as the episode. Other ones were Home
Speaker 2: dreamond Silly Love Songs, Blame It on the Alcohol, and
Speaker 2: Born this Way. All great episodes so you know, six
Speaker 2: out of fairy seven or just five about a six
Speaker 2: ain't beat. It's the only episode of season three to
Speaker 2: not feature a performance in the auditorium.
Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that also it goes with I don't
Speaker 2: know if it was scripted that way or not, but
Speaker 2: having to get inventive, but you don't have that the
Speaker 2: lighting and that room of the auditorium to play with sure,
Speaker 2: and to make the gymnasium or the choir room interesting
Speaker 2: each time when there's someone just standing there and singing,
Speaker 2: it's hard. And I think it was really successful this episode.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: In twenty twelve, Ryan Murphy uploaded a deleted scene where
Speaker 2: Santana actually comes out to the cheerios.
Speaker 1: We don't have a ton of deleted scenes, and we
Speaker 1: haven't seen most of those deleted scenes. I think this
Speaker 1: is maybe one of the only deleted scenes. He's actual
Speaker 1: scene that he's done this with. Yeah, it's a great scene,
Speaker 1: it is, but.
Speaker 2: It's also and moves as such a clip and maybe
Speaker 2: that's the maybe that was just the edit for to
Speaker 2: be able to upload it. But I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is happening very fast. It's like here's here it
Speaker 2: is and we're moving on.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe that's why they removed it. Yeah, Eric Stilt
Speaker 1: is one of the names present in Sue's Black Book
Speaker 1: of Booty Calls. So we had Todd Bridges, Vladimir Putin,
Speaker 1: Dan Quayle, Stephen Baldwin, Oliver North, Matt Lauer, Johnny Cochrane,
Speaker 1: David Boriana's I had a huge crush on you. An
Speaker 1: eclectic mix of people, and of course you're very own, Eric,
Speaker 1: still are very own, Eric Celts moving on the Santana
Speaker 1: coming out to her a Boila scene was written by
Speaker 1: Alie Adler, our friend and writer Unklee, and that was
Speaker 1: inspired by her own experience. However, Adler was not credited
Speaker 1: as a writer in this episode. But once again we
Speaker 1: I repeat myself that everybody contributed to every episode.
Speaker 2: Yes it was just a contract thing. Yes, just not
Speaker 2: always the case.
Speaker 1: But I find that most rooms big twenty two episode shows,
Speaker 1: there's a collective effort.
Speaker 2: That's so much time. That is forty four minutes times
Speaker 2: twenty two and nine to ten months like that is crazy.
Speaker 2: That is a lot of story and.
Speaker 1: Dial People need to go home and write a scene
Speaker 1: and come back and you put it all together. It
Speaker 1: is this team effort here.
Speaker 2: Also, I love this. The kitchen where Santana and Herbuela
Speaker 2: had their scene was also featured in the first season
Speaker 2: of American Horror Story as the kitchen of Constance Langdon.
Speaker 1: When she ate the brains.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's quite a different scene than this one.
Speaker 1: But we love it. We love them both.
Speaker 2: Very iconic recycle that set.
Speaker 1: Well, gotta this is the episode. In a short few
Speaker 1: sentences for the amount that is jam packed into this episode. Okay,
Speaker 1: So the race for McKenley High President comes to an end,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and someone is a cot trying to
Speaker 1: fix the results. Who will it be? Meanwhile, Coach Beast
Speaker 1: gets up the nerve to challenge Sue Sylvester and things
Speaker 1: get a little complicated for Pucking Quinn and Shelby, and
Speaker 1: Santana dives deep into her sexuality. All happens in forty
Speaker 1: four minutes. A cute forty four minutes. Which one do
Speaker 1: we start with, Kevin?
Speaker 2: I think let's start with class president. Let's get some
Speaker 2: of these out of the way, because we have a
Speaker 2: lot to talk about with Santana, and so I'd like
Speaker 2: to just I like it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So of all all of the storylines within this.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, wow, there's been a streamline thought
Speaker 1: that's been going on through I mean, the entirety of
Speaker 1: this season. So this is starting from episode one right
Speaker 1: of season three. Yeah, and that we've been talking about
Speaker 1: a class president and we are we've made it to
Speaker 1: episode seven. I am grateful for that. I am grateful
Speaker 1: that there is continuity. I am grateful is a streamline
Speaker 1: sometimes thought and character arc, something that's not brought up
Speaker 1: and then over in one episode exactly, thank you. So
Speaker 1: I appreciate this, and I also appreciate that it moves
Speaker 1: the pot along for sectionals as well.
Speaker 2: Right, and so for Niata it's also moving along, you know,
Speaker 2: next season. It's sort of getting them set.
Speaker 1: Up for that. So Kurt reveals to Rachel it's time
Speaker 1: to vote for senior class president, right, And Kurt reveals
Speaker 1: to Rachel that he doesn't think he's gonna win, so
Speaker 1: he is considering stuffing the ballot boxes. Rachel's looks concerned,
Speaker 1: very concerned for him. She knows that he really needs
Speaker 1: this in order to get into Nyada for his extracurriculars.
Speaker 1: But there's a turn of events, how cute was everybody voting.
Speaker 2: I love that, and I also was just reminded of
Speaker 2: when I was in high school and voting for these things.
Speaker 2: I love voting. I love a mock election, I love
Speaker 2: school election. And having everybody go into it also reminded
Speaker 2: me of drag Race. But everybody going to the little
Speaker 2: booths and shutting the curtain and voting was great. And
Speaker 2: I was also jealous. I wasn't really in it.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what my voting looks like for like
Speaker 1: real president too, totally. So I am very cute.
Speaker 2: I mean Jbi is back and is really I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: here he is getting in the business of everyone. And
Speaker 2: he shows up to Kurt and they shove him out
Speaker 2: of the way. Finn shows him out of the way
Speaker 2: so hard, and Kurt is full on just having a
Speaker 2: meltdown this entire time because it was also like a
Speaker 2: nice representation of like the state of the world. He's like,
Speaker 2: it's crazy that you work really hard for something and
Speaker 2: it comes down to the will basically of other people
Speaker 2: writing your name down or checking a box.
Speaker 1: And lack of control.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it changes his entire well, he thinks, you know,
Speaker 2: in high school, everything's a big deal. He thinks this
Speaker 2: is going to, you know, deter change his trajectory for
Speaker 2: the rest of his life.
Speaker 1: Which in theory I guess it is. So the stakes
Speaker 1: are so high for kids in high school and the
Speaker 1: college prep if you're lucky enough to be going to college,
Speaker 1: and it's just a lot of it is one of
Speaker 1: those things like the stakes are very high for this
Speaker 1: for high school students. So I appreciated the truth within it.
Speaker 1: But we're going to vote. Ironically, his dad is also
Speaker 1: being voted on for in Congress, but we'll get to that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Kirk gets called to the principal's office because Kurt
Speaker 1: won by how many one hundred and ninety votes, yes.
Speaker 2: Something that was disproportionate to how things were seeming on
Speaker 2: the ground.
Speaker 1: Well, how many seniors were also in the school itself, right,
Speaker 1: So they believe he stuffed the ballot boxes, and so
Speaker 1: they say, if they can prove it, he's going to
Speaker 1: get suspended.
Speaker 2: I had second hit. I was so anxious, that feeling
Speaker 2: of you know, you didn't do something wrong, and then
Speaker 2: he's being honest and truthful by saying, well, I did
Speaker 2: think about it, right, And then when Bert.
Speaker 1: I don't say that what are you talking to?
Speaker 2: Thought about it and they're like, oh, how are you
Speaker 2: gonna kick yourself out of this? And one of my
Speaker 2: favorite parts of the entire episode was when Kurt tells
Speaker 2: Rachel and Finn and he leaves and then Rachel turns around.
Speaker 2: He's like, I did it, loved.
Speaker 1: It, loved it. And then she ends up telling the
Speaker 1: truth to Figgins because it's going to expel her from
Speaker 1: performing in at Sectionals.
Speaker 2: So, Jenna, when you told me a couple episodes ago,
Speaker 2: and I said, are you going to get your moment
Speaker 2: to shine? Because you said you're hopeful now that some
Speaker 2: of the heavy hitters were in Trouble Tones, you might
Speaker 2: get your moment.
Speaker 1: This is what you actually forgotten. They're all gone, there's
Speaker 1: only there's only Tina left and Quinn. But Tina, Tina
Speaker 1: is left. She had to knock them all down.
Speaker 2: It's going to be the Tina and Quinn show.
Speaker 1: Oh so funny. I forgot about this. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that this was the Sectionals.
Speaker 2: You knew it because.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, well, well, they're like, well, who's going
Speaker 1: to do it? Youa oh? And then if I went
Speaker 1: to Trouble Tones, which I really wanted. I would just
Speaker 1: be waving a rose back in the cord again because
Speaker 1: you've got Amber and Naya and Heather, so here I am.
Speaker 2: You know. The Troubletones also just seem like a lot
Speaker 2: of work because they have like real choreography as opposed
Speaker 2: to the new directions just sort of like.
Speaker 1: Walking in the line. Yeah, basically we couldn't even do that.
Speaker 2: That's the truth.
Speaker 1: We couldn't even stay in the street line.
Speaker 2: I think Zach and Brooke gave up on I sitting
Speaker 2: at diagonal like halfway through season one, did you.
Speaker 1: Like, just make a squiggly line, just stand in.
Speaker 2: Just get to where you want to go, make sure
Speaker 2: you can be seen by the camera.
Speaker 1: That's really funny. Okay, so Rachel's not gonna be able
Speaker 1: to perform, it's gonna be Teena's time to shine. We'll
Speaker 1: get there and and Brittany becomes class president.
Speaker 2: I like the little pins they were wearing for Brittany.
Speaker 1: It was really very cute.
Speaker 2: I did like that everyone's going into vote when Amber
Speaker 2: walks in there, and I feel like it was Amber
Speaker 2: and not sad. It's like I like that these are
Speaker 2: a secret out because yes, I don't want Santana knowing
Speaker 2: I didn't vote for her girlfriend. Basically, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't want the wrath of the snakes. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: by the ways, we'll get there. Let's just mark that.
Speaker 2: The other election that's happening is for Congress between Sue
Speaker 2: and Bert, who's a writing candidate still, and Sue does
Speaker 2: some of very Sue like tactics, which are very well
Speaker 2: suited for politics, more so than her position as a
Speaker 2: cheer coach in high school. Her you know, little tricks
Speaker 2: and connivingness because that's the word definitely fit with this
Speaker 2: storyline and I really like it. But it sort of
Speaker 2: comes to just reaching halt here because for the time being,
Speaker 2: she basically recruits Shannon Beasts coach Beasts boy toy boyfriend
Speaker 2: want to be boyfriend as her lover. Her fake pulled
Speaker 2: a Tim Scott with his girlfriend, but you know, the opposite,
Speaker 2: and Beast catches them at bread Steaks together Sue and Cooter.
Speaker 2: I feel so crazy saying Cooter.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about the whole.
Speaker 2: And it's so sad because like, Beast was so nice,
Speaker 2: it was open and talk. Hearing Dots talk about this,
Speaker 2: I was just like, break my heart break my heart
Speaker 2: every time.
Speaker 1: Although let's pause for a second because we have to
Speaker 1: acknowledge the tur ducan I loved so hard. I forgot
Speaker 1: about this the tur ducan. I actually thought about this
Speaker 1: before I went to bed last Oh my god.
Speaker 2: The way that you coach beast some like the wackiest
Speaker 2: things to say and do and sprinkled in amongst like
Speaker 2: really just well, I guess she's sincere all the time.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I love about best.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you have tra duckan mm hmm, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's anyway.
Speaker 1: I just don't need to notable.
Speaker 2: There was so much protein and meat mentioned in this
Speaker 2: episode that I had to stop eating. I was eating
Speaker 2: while I was watching this, like, I can't really, it
Speaker 2: was grossing loved it. I loved it, I think because
Speaker 2: I was full. And then you have about more food
Speaker 2: like I can't.
Speaker 1: Well, especially a turkey stucked and it duck since duck
Speaker 1: stuck whoop stuffed in a chicken?
Speaker 2: Okay, have you ever had a turduckan?
Speaker 1: No? Is that real? Yeah? What? Oh yeah, oh I
Speaker 1: thought eating made that up.
Speaker 2: No, that's a thing.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I've never had that would make me sick. No,
Speaker 1: I love poultry I also love poultry living, but I'm
Speaker 1: grateful for poultry when I eat it, and I am
Speaker 1: also grossed out by her Duckean, I know it sounds
Speaker 1: we have to keep going because this is crazy. I
Speaker 1: feel this episode is wild. Her her ploy to get
Speaker 1: to steal Cooder to then you know, kind of like
Speaker 1: soften her image. I guess doesn't work because Bert Hommel
Speaker 1: does win the election, Jojo, because she's got to go
Speaker 1: back to doing her her you know, other evil ways.
Speaker 1: She can't be, you know, wrapped up in politics, so
Speaker 1: we had to have her lose. And honestly, who wouldn't
Speaker 1: want Bert Hommell as her local representative? Oh Mike, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, thank goodness, I want Michael mative totally, totally.
Speaker 1: But let's talk about Juline because that is the the song.
Speaker 1: Dot gets to say, what an iconic song to cover
Speaker 1: and what a beautiful job Tait and Dot did with this.
Speaker 2: And I got to say, as a performer, when you
Speaker 2: have these numbers where you're sort of walking with intention
Speaker 2: and you're not on a stage performing, I think it's
Speaker 2: really difficult to do that. It feels awkward. It feels
Speaker 2: like Will Ferrell and Taday and night. It's like, I
Speaker 2: don't know what to do with my hands?
Speaker 1: How do you go in space?
Speaker 2: Yes? And she sounds great. She performs it so beautifully.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, really superb.
Speaker 2: And I think it is so hard to take on
Speaker 2: a Dolly song.
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember her talking about this when she
Speaker 1: did it, and she was so stressed about it because
Speaker 1: it's such an iconic song and she loved it so much.
Speaker 1: And she did she did it wonderful justice and she
Speaker 1: was just telling the truth the whole time.
Speaker 2: Dot's got one speed and it's truth.
Speaker 1: That's right, it's right, that's so right. Well, that goes
Speaker 1: down as one of my favorite numbers of the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so sweet. What you get? You know?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, Well, well, I'm glad that. Here's the thing,
Speaker 1: this episode is very controversial. I'm glad we are tying
Speaker 1: up some of these storylines though at least like class
Speaker 1: presidents tied up, elections tied up, we're about to tie
Speaker 1: up this. Well, I guess we're not quite there yet,
Speaker 1: but we better tie up this Shelby, Puck and Quinn
Speaker 1: storyline real soon.
Speaker 2: Wrap it up.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just gonna stop talking about it like it
Speaker 1: doesn't even exist.
Speaker 2: It's just.
Speaker 1: Something I don't know.
Speaker 2: Puck gets called out a class by Shelby. He goes
Speaker 2: to check on the baby because the baby fell, and
Speaker 2: he's like.
Speaker 1: It made me uncomfortable. That scene really made me uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: And I could imagine that Adina probably felt uncomfortable doing
Speaker 1: it because you just have to, like, you have to
Speaker 1: find comfort in an eighteen year old boy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and i'se eighteen year old boys. I don't I
Speaker 2: don't think there's a lot of eighte year old boys
Speaker 2: listening to this podcast. I think, all right, well you
Speaker 2: never know.
Speaker 1: But I will say again, I'm the only one. I
Speaker 1: love Puck doing this number. I don't have a strong
Speaker 1: memory of this number being shot, but when I watched it,
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, this is really good. It sounds
Speaker 1: really good.
Speaker 2: Jenna. What I realized is you and I are fully
Speaker 2: not fixing our faces when we're watching people do these numbers.
Speaker 1: Well that's season three for you.
Speaker 2: We talked four, we're being us anytime they cut to
Speaker 2: either of us during these performances where it's a real reaction.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing else for Tina and Aardy to do,
Speaker 1: so we may as well just give gift and Kevin.
Speaker 2: We're like, well, we're here and like, oh, I'm enjoying
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, I'm shooting right now, we're working right
Speaker 1: clogging in Hmmm. I did like that number, though, I
Speaker 1: will say, as uncomfortable as this whole storyline is, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not for it.
Speaker 2: But I did also sort of enjoy Puck's read of
Speaker 2: Quinn when she tries to seduce him. Yes, and he's
Speaker 2: like no, no, no.
Speaker 1: This is touch you. So okay. Puck still is being very,
Speaker 1: very not inconspicuous about his feelings for Shelby.
Speaker 2: No, it's only a matter of time before somebody caught on.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah. And then Quinn is seducing Puck to
Speaker 1: make another perfect baby. It's weird. She's gone. It's off
Speaker 1: the rails for Quinn, I mean, and Quinn kind of
Speaker 1: is off the rails right now, but this is extra.
Speaker 1: She's being extra right.
Speaker 2: You know, say what you want about Glee not sticking
Speaker 2: to a story for that long. Quinn has been off
Speaker 2: the rails. Not for seven episodes and that's week.
Speaker 1: And even Puck calls it out. He said, you've been
Speaker 1: all for since you gave birth the rest since I
Speaker 1: knocked you up.
Speaker 2: Those new writers came in and they were like.
Speaker 1: Well, let's just call Spades bade, you know. Quinn, Oh,
Speaker 1: sweet Quinn, trying to make it work, Diana, Sweet Diana,
Speaker 1: just trying to make this storyline work, but I doesn't
Speaker 1: makes me really uncomfortable. Still I'm over it. Still don't
Speaker 1: love the storyline very much.
Speaker 2: But I will say however, it does make next episode's
Speaker 2: performance makes a lot more sense to me because she
Speaker 2: sings control partly, and finally I'm like, okay, mm hmm,
Speaker 2: now we're getting somewhere. There's a loss of control, a
Speaker 2: sense of control that she does not have in her
Speaker 2: own life. Let's go right, But like, it's just I
Speaker 2: feel like it's been so repetitive.
Speaker 1: Right, No, it has well, and finally Puck tells Quinn
Speaker 1: about them, so it's going to come to a head.
Speaker 1: Finally he couldn't keep it in any longer, you know.
Speaker 2: All right, let's begin, Let's go in chronological order.
Speaker 1: Start from the very big ka.
Speaker 2: Me Santana slaps Finn at the end of last episode.
Speaker 2: This episode opens up on Figgins trying to suspend Santana
Speaker 2: because there was violence and she says it was snakes.
Speaker 2: It wasn't me.
Speaker 1: There it is.
Speaker 2: She also has the slightest smirk when she says it
Speaker 2: because I think she also can't believe that this was
Speaker 2: written into the script. And Naia became the Snicks like
Speaker 2: in real life. That's why we have Snicks, Miss. I mean,
Speaker 2: she started Snicks, miss, and she was just the Snicks.
Speaker 2: So when she got a little crazy, the snicksme comes out.
Speaker 1: Everybody had an alter ego.
Speaker 2: Yes, and Snick's juice was real.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they wrote it into the episode. Unbelievable,
Speaker 1: truly un that's when you're like, oh, they are writing
Speaker 1: real life, you know.
Speaker 2: Yes, because it's also like really good. It's hilarious and
Speaker 2: random and it's with the style of the show.
Speaker 1: But finns Figgins is gonna is saying she's going to
Speaker 1: be suspended and therefore we're not going to have section.
Speaker 1: She's not going to be able to perform the sexuals.
Speaker 2: Right, and Finn is like, light bulb, she didn't hit me.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: A stage slab mm hmm. And Shelby and Will like
Speaker 2: or what are you talking about? And here in lies
Speaker 2: sort of the biggest beginning, the beginning of the issue
Speaker 2: with this episode is that for the rest of the
Speaker 2: episode and they address it right and the scene following,
Speaker 2: Sama's like, I'm not beholden to you now because you
Speaker 2: did this seemingly nice thing to me because the only
Speaker 2: reason and she has to deal with this because he
Speaker 2: was calling her out in a public setting and outed her.
Speaker 2: And now let's turn into a thing that she now
Speaker 2: has to address and not in her own time, in
Speaker 2: her own way, but because she's forced to, right, And
Speaker 2: so now it's like, okay, well, fins behind the steering
Speaker 2: wheel of this thing where he doesn't face any sort
Speaker 2: of repercussions for outing her. M m like there's nothing
Speaker 2: and he's sort of the good guy because he saves
Speaker 2: her from getting suspended and then makes this whole lesson
Speaker 2: about ladies and music and everybody's sort of singing to Santana.
Speaker 1: And then she says thank you, yeah, and that feels.
Speaker 2: And it feels weird because.
Speaker 1: Out of time, Yeah, the man comes to save the woman, right.
Speaker 2: It's like the straight white man comes to save the woman.
Speaker 1: The poor gay Latino woman from her yeah yeah yeah
Speaker 1: and making her say star or say thank you, versus
Speaker 1: still being angry at him for what he did. I mean,
Speaker 1: it happened so fast, right, like the pra the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I think the other part of it is like her
Speaker 1: whole journey of coming out. They didn't We didn't see
Speaker 1: anything with Santana and Kurt, which Kurt has had experience
Speaker 1: with this. He's the one that we should be talking to,
Speaker 1: not Finn right.
Speaker 2: When he's sort of just like he has like a sentence,
Speaker 2: and then they go into the perfect duet, which seemed
Speaker 2: so well.
Speaker 1: We were all laughing because I remember Chris kind of
Speaker 1: giving us these crazy looks when the camera wasn't on
Speaker 1: his face, because we were all like, what are we
Speaker 1: doing here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it didn't feel and if it didn't feel
Speaker 2: right to you watching it probably didn't feel right right
Speaker 2: us filming it. And it was like, why what is happening?
Speaker 2: And then she like comes in and a scene you
Speaker 2: know a little later, and it's like, so I came
Speaker 2: up to my parents. Everything's cool, Like wait to wait
Speaker 2: a second, well, where was that? Can we see that?
Speaker 1: Rewind?
Speaker 2: I want to meet her parents.
Speaker 1: We only in twenty two forty four minutes, but we
Speaker 1: could have spread this out over time, right, but we
Speaker 1: had to get there. I don't know why, but we
Speaker 1: had to get there sooner. I'm sure they had a
Speaker 1: reason for it, but.
Speaker 2: Especially because like you had like the really touching Allie
Speaker 2: scene that she wrote coming after Abuela, which was like complex,
Speaker 2: complicated and her Baila, you know, disowns her and like
Speaker 2: this really serious thing, and then the next the.
Speaker 1: Next scene, we're like okay about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like everything's fine, Like we're going to be okay,
Speaker 2: let's just pretend it didn't really happen, right.
Speaker 1: I think I think the issue with this episode, with
Speaker 1: this storyline in particular, is it's like things are just
Speaker 1: very washed over for very heavy subject matters that really
Speaker 1: resonate with the Santana and Britney fans and the LGBTQ
Speaker 1: and everybody, you know, like the audience that we have.
Speaker 1: It's I think in a way could potentially and I'm
Speaker 1: not speaking for anybody, but it could potentially feel like
Speaker 1: that it's that simple or it's that lightweight, right, It's
Speaker 1: it's not as heavy or as I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: No. I think also like the amount of time and
Speaker 2: Carrot took to get to this point for this character,
Speaker 2: and the amount of time and Carrot took during Kurt's
Speaker 2: storyline with this totally. There was no rushing of that,
Speaker 2: and there was a lot of thoughtful conversation on screen
Speaker 2: about it from different perspectives and different angles. And that's
Speaker 2: all so how I feel like it's been with Santana
Speaker 2: and Brittany, and then we get here and it's just like, well, Okay,
Speaker 2: it's done. We did it, and we're gonna sing some
Speaker 2: songs to her and that's going to like fix everything.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting because the behind the scenes, and maybe
Speaker 1: they were just sugarcoating it behind the scenes, both Corey
Speaker 1: and Maya spoke on this episode and they really liked
Speaker 1: working with each other and with the relationship that Fenn
Speaker 1: in Santana have had. So it's so interesting to hear
Speaker 1: their perspective on it and then see the way this
Speaker 1: has unraveled. Not that two truths can't exist at the
Speaker 1: same time. Yeah, I think that's exactly how it is.
Speaker 1: Because I think them as friends and as like actors
Speaker 1: and as characters, all that was really great. They're so good,
Speaker 1: they're so good together, and I think the idea of
Speaker 1: somebody if you took away the fact that he outed
Speaker 1: her and didn't really face any consequence from it. Right,
Speaker 1: if that didn't happen, and this was just like a
Speaker 1: friend trying to do a nice thing for somebody, that
Speaker 1: would be great, that'd be really good. Also if he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I did out you. The least I
Speaker 1: could do is get you to make sure you don't
Speaker 1: get suspended, and then like just sort of we're not even,
Speaker 1: but at least there's that for you. I think it's
Speaker 1: just like the I think because when we're filming it too,
Speaker 1: I don't think we realized that.
Speaker 2: Really. It was just like, oh, and it's coming from
Speaker 2: like the goodness of his heart, and that's what we
Speaker 2: were focusing on. But also we're not the audience, And
Speaker 2: so I think when you have the people that have
Speaker 2: gone through this or are going through this see it,
Speaker 2: and then that's the reaction, it's like, oh, okay, maybe
Speaker 2: we should listen to that. We can we can do better. Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 2: I think because like this show did you know, not
Speaker 2: to put too fin a point on it, but the
Speaker 2: show was so careful I think about out those storylines
Speaker 2: in general that when more than like, I think if
Speaker 2: this was another TV show and this this episode would
Speaker 2: have been monumental for another TV show, but.
Speaker 3: For Glee, we we had so many were well versed
Speaker 3: in doing LGBT storylines, right, and so you expect the
Speaker 3: consideration and care one the more in depth look at
Speaker 3: it that we.
Speaker 2: Were used to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean I've felt like it was jarring when she
Speaker 2: came in. Was just like I came up to my
Speaker 2: parents and it was they were okay with it, Like what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they could be, but yeah, I'd like to see it. No, sure,
Speaker 1: let's see it all. Yeah, I will say though, the
Speaker 1: girls want to just want to have fun. Aside from
Speaker 1: the storylines, the performance is very cool and I and
Speaker 1: it sounds really wonderful. You guys don't, and I thought
Speaker 1: Corey did a great job and his performance of it.
Speaker 2: Agreed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very cool number.
Speaker 2: But are you just staring at Santana's.
Speaker 1: It's so funny to be faced that way. I was like,
Speaker 1: why is he facing towards Santana. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's about to perform, that's why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I only just turned two harmonies towards the end. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think Tane.
Speaker 1: Wanted to get the shot. He wanted to get the
Speaker 1: shot of the side profile of Naya and the front
Speaker 1: of you and the side of Finn. It was a
Speaker 1: moment I.
Speaker 2: Do And now that you said that, I do remember
Speaker 2: sitting there being like, we wouldn't normally do this, but
Speaker 2: you just sort of go with the director like, well,
Speaker 2: it's not my call, yeah, because it felt so unnatural.
Speaker 1: But then when you got that shot, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I like this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Like, Okay, I see your vision. That's why
Speaker 2: I worn't a stupid actor. Yeh, yeah, yeah, I thought
Speaker 2: I Kissed a Girl was great as well.
Speaker 1: That was a fun number to shoot. We had so
Speaker 1: much fun. We don't normally get to do a number
Speaker 1: that with all the girls like that, so that was
Speaker 1: actually a really fun number to do. I enjoy I
Speaker 1: loved it.
Speaker 2: I thought it was really really good.
Speaker 1: I remember you you loving it. We were, yes, of
Speaker 1: course you were always the girls never fan.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. That choreography was just it's like, oh, they gave
Speaker 2: Zach and Brooke needed a break because they're choreographing for
Speaker 2: Sectionals next episode, and so this is like the one
Speaker 2: number for this episode and really gave it to us. Yeah,
Speaker 2: really loved it. It's fun, really fun. I want to
Speaker 2: talk about constant craving Oh.
Speaker 1: Yes, let's talk about it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, because good Lord, so underrated, so underrated.
Speaker 2: I forgot it existed because she got up to sing,
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is she about to sing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, yep, yep. And then I was like, oh right.
Speaker 2: But and then it comes in.
Speaker 1: It's so like what I want to listen to that.
Speaker 1: I want to listen to that edit, that whole the
Speaker 1: big edit.
Speaker 2: For the crazy ship, that having this episode constant craving man,
Speaker 2: and then to.
Speaker 1: Have Rachel come in crying after and to drop that bomb, I.
Speaker 2: Was like, this is great, yes, and it's strong here.
Speaker 1: For the lack thereof like the end of the episode
Speaker 1: was like, let's get.
Speaker 2: Into section and talking speaking of positives. I do think
Speaker 2: her coming out scene is great, beautiful, and they were
Speaker 2: both very I think Ali wrote an incredible scene.
Speaker 1: Very hard scene too, actually hard too.
Speaker 2: And it's also a different take on approach mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Santana is different from Kurt, obviously, Santanna's different from Brittany,
Speaker 2: comes to a different family and seeing how this sort
Speaker 2: of like hard figure plays that just looks so different
Speaker 2: than how any other character on the show might do that,
Speaker 2: and it was really just like a masterclass to watch.
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, I mean the quote when when she says,
Speaker 1: I've tried so hard to push this feeling away and
Speaker 1: keep it locked inside, but every day just feels like
Speaker 1: a war. I walk around so mad at the world,
Speaker 1: but I'm really just fighting with myself. I don't want
Speaker 1: to fight anymore. I'm just too tired. Like WHOA so good,
Speaker 1: really beautiful, really really beautiful. Okay, So I think that's
Speaker 1: where we have to cap this episode because some lose
Speaker 1: some Yeah, yeah, I will say though over again, we
Speaker 1: are we are aware of the you know, the the
Speaker 1: lack of care, tender TSC. But Nia's performance woe.
Speaker 2: I mean everybody, I think it is really in like
Speaker 2: some type of beautiful stride right now.
Speaker 1: Very locked in, very locked in. Should we do something?
Speaker 1: Hearty takes yes, cringe moments, ouchies, Paris is Ouchi's I
Speaker 1: think I think my auchi is still well. Obviously we
Speaker 1: still have the the Puck and Shelby auchie, and then
Speaker 1: obviously also the ouchie of how Santana's storyline was handled.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah, there's also the Rocky player calling the
Speaker 2: girls lesbos oh my God, which in terms of things
Speaker 2: that people haven't called on the show, it seems.
Speaker 1: Pretty yeah right, I was like, no, Yeah, best dance move,
Speaker 1: I mean I kissed a girl, right, obviously, everybody so good, funny,
Speaker 1: the best song Constant Craven Joline, girls just want to have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those three in any sort of not in any
Speaker 2: particular order.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the music episode. Uh performance by Prop Kevin.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, Jenna, that's Ada. I mean, it kind
Speaker 2: of has to be the Traducan.
Speaker 1: It has to be the Traducan.
Speaker 2: I did like the fistfuls of ballots Rachel was stuffing
Speaker 2: into this funny ballot box. But I think the tra
Speaker 2: Ducan might take it.
Speaker 1: The tru Dacan takes it. That's mine.
Speaker 2: I'm I mean, we mentioned it, but Santana says, when
Speaker 2: I get really pissed off, Santana gets taken over by
Speaker 2: my other evil personality. I call her Snacks. Her wrath
Speaker 2: of words is called Snake's juice. I'm kind of like
Speaker 2: the Incredible Hulk. You can't blame you or anything where
Speaker 2: the Snakes does.
Speaker 1: It's true, It's it's true. Oh, and the performance MVP
Speaker 1: I'm going to give Naya the MVP with an honorable
Speaker 1: mention for dot.
Speaker 2: I completely agree. I think while this Santana's storyline is
Speaker 2: sort of the main focus, it's going to be hard
Speaker 2: to beat Naya always.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: What happens next week with Rachel out of sectionals.
Speaker 1: She's hanging, she's chilling in the audience. Okay, she's killing
Speaker 1: in the audience. It does feel really weird, and we
Speaker 1: got trouble tones, we got direction, we got Tina's time
Speaker 1: to shine.
Speaker 2: So shit we found on TikTok because the new Hunger
Speaker 2: Games movie came out recently. It is a Hunger Games
Speaker 2: reference and oh my god, it is a young Snow
Speaker 2: And they said, do you know who this MF looks like?
Speaker 2: Loki looks like.
Speaker 1: And sisters and they're very similar. No, they're not wrong.
Speaker 1: This is great and they're both in red. Yes, hair,
Speaker 1: I wonder if this was a vision board the.
Speaker 2: Scow on their face. I mean, hey, Emma Jeen posted
Speaker 2: this on TikTok. It is and it's big. It has
Speaker 2: one point two million likes because you know, when it's true,
Speaker 2: it's true, and it resonates with people.
Speaker 1: Very funny, very very funny.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, somebody said he is definitely a descendant
Speaker 2: of Sylvester. Jane Lynch was actually the first choice to
Speaker 2: play Cornelius.
Speaker 1: So good, it's so good. I love it.
Speaker 2: Okay, next week, Jenna, mm hmmm. We have hold on sixteen,
Speaker 2: which is sectionals.
Speaker 1: This is important.
Speaker 2: It is because quart Overstreets back.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Oh finally it's a monumental episode. There was so much
Speaker 2: good music, so much good music. I don't even want
Speaker 2: to think about it. I just want to watch it,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean. I don't want to
Speaker 2: know anything about it.
Speaker 1: I just want to watch it. I want to go
Speaker 1: on not knowing what this show is about.
Speaker 2: I'm excited for all of you. If you're watching along
Speaker 2: with us, if you're just listening, tell us your thoughts
Speaker 2: about it, because I cannot wait. And it was also
Speaker 2: a last to do. It was I think you can
Speaker 2: see the joy on all of us when we do it.
Speaker 2: But okay, I won't start talking about now.
Speaker 1: That's next week and a very Mary Snicks miss to
Speaker 1: you all. We have just launched the fourth annual Snicks
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Speaker 1: Ia Rivera of course and benefiting alex Andrea House, a
Speaker 1: charity that Nya loved and worked very closely with. This
Speaker 1: year was very special. What did we do, Kevin?
Speaker 2: We tracked down the writers and producers and got permission
Speaker 2: and we put out a unreleased Naya song that she
Speaker 2: recorded in twenty twelve as part of her personal solo
Speaker 2: project and it never came out, called Prayer for the Broken.
Speaker 2: So there are two ways to actually contribute this year
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