Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2: And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Welcome to and That's what you Really missed podcast. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, grand cousin's here, and I'm zan girl of
Speaker 1: our friend. So weird because he's such a nice man,
Speaker 1: and I'm yet I'm still such a fan of him.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that's fine, but such a fan.
Speaker 1: He's so talented and wildly talented. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: And you and I love the flash, so love the yes.
Speaker 2: And also like Grant was just he was only in
Speaker 2: seven episodes of Glee, but felt like, I don't know how,
Speaker 2: but just became like a part of our Glee family
Speaker 2: very very quickly, and we all felt like he had
Speaker 2: always been there, and it feels like he was. He
Speaker 2: did twenty episodes, not seven, so he was Yeah. I
Speaker 2: think once you're part of that family for a little
Speaker 2: bit and then that's it. You're stuck with us for life.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. So this is Grant custom.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh god, what the hell?
Speaker 3: Broadway star, hi brid?
Speaker 4: How are we good?
Speaker 2: How are you doing good?
Speaker 4: Let your fancy mics and headphones and.
Speaker 3: Hardly we're professionals.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I know.
Speaker 2: This is that we don't have to leave home.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Perfect, it's a perfect job. It's a perfect.
Speaker 3: Job, truly, truly, just get seen Jenna in years.
Speaker 4: I was actually thinking this one because I've run into
Speaker 4: you a couple of times now. Yeah, And I was like,
Speaker 4: I don't know when the last time I saw Jenna was.
Speaker 1: A long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a long time.
Speaker 3: I actually don't remember either.
Speaker 4: That's going to see you, to see you, guys.
Speaker 2: I ran into Grant at the Elton John Oscar that
Speaker 2: was the first time and literally obviously made my night.
Speaker 2: But then I was like stuck and I walked in.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if I have the energy
Speaker 2: for this. And then the after party got stuck in
Speaker 2: this corner and it was just like friends. It was
Speaker 2: Grant and it was like Shashana. It was like all
Speaker 2: these people that I'm just like, oh, okay, I never
Speaker 2: left like a five foot radius.
Speaker 4: That's what I always do it.
Speaker 2: That was the goal, because I was so unmotivated to
Speaker 2: be there. The first one. I was like, my.
Speaker 4: Wife has talked me into going to anything in public.
Speaker 2: I met who is so nice and beautiful. I met
Speaker 2: Grant's brother in law, A couple of weeknds ago.
Speaker 4: I was not there.
Speaker 1: No, Oh my gosh, and you're a dad.
Speaker 4: I am congrats and your mom I am.
Speaker 1: I am. How old is baby?
Speaker 4: Not? So?
Speaker 1: Baby was two in August.
Speaker 4: She's but she's more like a three enager. Yeah, she's
Speaker 4: an adult.
Speaker 1: Emma just took some steps today, so we're excited.
Speaker 4: Wait, how old?
Speaker 1: She's eighteen months? So she's like a late walker. She
Speaker 1: can do it, she just doesn't. She just doesn't want to.
Speaker 4: She's like these people carry me around. I mean Juniper
Speaker 4: is two and a half and still now. I mean
Speaker 4: she runs around and it is very wants to be carried,
Speaker 4: and I'm kind of like, I will carry you as
Speaker 4: long as I can physically carry you.
Speaker 2: Do you know that's an option?
Speaker 3: Why would you not maybe somebody carry me?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Please? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How is being a dad? That's what Kevin was asking.
Speaker 4: It's the bad. I mean it's everything. You know, it's
Speaker 4: like stress and fear and but it's love and joy
Speaker 4: and you know, it's everything. It's it's my favorite thing.
Speaker 2: How has it been doing that in balancing? I guess
Speaker 2: the professional life because you're so busy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, tough, I mean, you know flash, I was in
Speaker 4: such a groove with because when she was born it
Speaker 4: was season got it all Please together? It would have
Speaker 4: been season eight, I guess. And it was tough because
Speaker 4: I was back at work like two weeks after she
Speaker 4: was born. She was born, I want to say, like
Speaker 4: the day we were supposed to have our first table
Speaker 4: read of season eight, So it was like three days
Speaker 4: before we started shooting, and I gave our show runner
Speaker 4: heads up, I'm like, it's very possible I'm not at
Speaker 4: that table. If I'm not at that table read, it's
Speaker 4: because my wife is in labor. And that's literally what happened.
Speaker 4: So but we had it worked out that she was
Speaker 4: gonna calm around that time and I was gonna miss
Speaker 4: the first two weeks of filming, and they did magic
Speaker 4: with the schedules, and then when I showed up, yeah
Speaker 4: they were they were on the third episode and I
Speaker 4: shot like a bunch of just like three episodes, like
Speaker 4: block shot three episodes in a row. It was just
Speaker 4: like thrown into it with a new baby at home. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's it's tough, but it's like you know, and as
Speaker 4: you guys know, I'm about to go to New York
Speaker 4: and like we're all picking up together and going there.
Speaker 2: And it makes such an exciting adventure too, exactly.
Speaker 4: It's like it's gonna present challenges obviously, but like I
Speaker 4: feel like it's going to be a really exciting year
Speaker 4: to look back on and like we grow together as
Speaker 4: a family, and like it's going to be tough and
Speaker 4: you know, fun, like all the things like having being
Speaker 4: a data is it's gonna be tough and fun and
Speaker 4: training and exciting and yeah, it's it's it's balance. It's
Speaker 4: always tough, you know.
Speaker 2: Speaking of New York, let's just start there. How did
Speaker 2: this happen? You're going to make your Broadway debut being
Speaker 2: water relevance, congratulation, thank you, that's massive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm terrified, naturally, but I think you know, I
Speaker 4: was terrified to come do an episode of Glee. I
Speaker 4: was terrified to start up on Flash. And I've terrified
Speaker 4: every time I get a job. And I also think
Speaker 4: every time I get a job that I've tricked somebody
Speaker 4: and I'm I'm wrong for it and they're all going
Speaker 4: to find out on day one. And I think that's
Speaker 4: generally and I know I'm not alone in that, you know.
Speaker 2: Heard, Yeah, So.
Speaker 4: I'm very you know, This was my dream since I
Speaker 4: was eight nine years old. And you know, I've always
Speaker 4: said when people have asked, like, what's you have a
Speaker 4: dream role? What's your dream role? And it's like always
Speaker 4: been like I want to originate something, you know. So
Speaker 4: it's like surreal to get to do it and what
Speaker 4: I think is going to be a really special show.
Speaker 4: And I've already met a lot of the cast and
Speaker 4: the creative team and really really sweet people. Seems like
Speaker 4: a really good group of people. And it's funny. I
Speaker 4: have a friend in the show, Mike Mendez, Lindsay Mendez's brother,
Speaker 4: Lindsay's and merrily we roller along right now. And I've
Speaker 4: known Mike forever because my best friend Kyle Harris, who
Speaker 4: did Westsid's Story with me, they were like roommates in
Speaker 4: college and so I've known Mike since I was twenty
Speaker 4: And yeah, so Mike's in the show, And I mean,
Speaker 4: this is common knowledge to this piece. I'm about to
Speaker 4: tell you to everyone that's like musical, like Broadway fans,
Speaker 4: is this actor Ryan Vasquez is having like an unbelievable year.
Speaker 1: It was it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was in The Outsiders, waterf Elephants and the
Speaker 4: notebook and like did all of the out of town
Speaker 4: shows for these shows and they are they're all about
Speaker 4: to be on Broadway, and he had to pick which
Speaker 4: one he was going to do, which is why I'm
Speaker 4: lucky enough to something opened up. But it was very traditional,
Speaker 4: like I was not like handed the keys or anything.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Mike, I know, brought me up
Speaker 4: and and I was like, yeah, yes, I would love
Speaker 4: to do something like that. And then it just was
Speaker 4: I got an appointment to make a tape, and I
Speaker 4: made a tape, and I got a callback and I
Speaker 4: flew to New York for the callback and wow, and
Speaker 4: then I was getting on my plane to fly home
Speaker 4: and like found out like you got it, so it
Speaker 4: was wow. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, iw nerve wracking too. I always think when you
Speaker 2: have to like travel, Yeah, and I.
Speaker 4: Started, yeah, and we were it was like not My
Speaker 4: daughter had just started preschool and it was like a
Speaker 4: really tough first week and she was like crying at
Speaker 4: every drop off and I was like I can't be
Speaker 4: a right now, like it was killing me and my
Speaker 4: dog Jet, who we just had to so goodbye to
Speaker 4: last week. Yeah, it was tough, but he was kind
Speaker 4: of it was like the beginning of he wasn't doing
Speaker 4: that well, you know, so it's been a decline the
Speaker 4: last few months. There was just like you know, life
Speaker 4: personal stuff going on, and I was like, I don't
Speaker 4: want to fight New York right now, like can we
Speaker 4: zoom callback? And it was like, you know, they'd really
Speaker 4: want to meet everybody in the room. So I was
Speaker 4: like and I really wanted it, so I was like,
Speaker 4: all right, well, you know, we'll just make it happen. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And I of course, again I was like at that point,
Speaker 4: my daughter's second wink in preschool and woke up the
Speaker 4: morning of the callback and was like, I'm sick, Like
Speaker 4: I had a cold. So I just like went to
Speaker 4: the callback with a cold just like whatever. I was like,
Speaker 4: this is you know, I not going to get it.
Speaker 4: I'm going to get it. So it's just like do
Speaker 4: my best, and it was you know, it's just of course.
Speaker 1: You know, it's exciting.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow. I feel like it probably makes it that
Speaker 2: much sweeter though, like all those things happened and you
Speaker 2: still got it.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It does make me feel like with the inevitable
Speaker 4: cold hits when she's in school in New York and
Speaker 4: it's winter, and it's like, all right, well I did
Speaker 4: sing it with a cold at the callback, so's.
Speaker 3: You know you can't do it? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Those winters are brutal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm happy for you. It's greatful. Really, it's the
Speaker 2: opportunity and you worked for it and.
Speaker 4: Really never lived, like live there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I've been there like for a move, like an independent
Speaker 4: movie long like ten years ago, and then like rehearsals
Speaker 4: for West Side and and then you know, my brother
Speaker 4: lives there, many visits, but I've never been there for
Speaker 4: more than like five or six weeks, so.
Speaker 1: I've never been there with Like I'm like, living in
Speaker 1: the city with a child is definitely new.
Speaker 3: It's that's a challenge, that's new.
Speaker 1: That'll be interesting too.
Speaker 4: A lot of ways it'll be I mean, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be tough because that's not where we live and we'll
Speaker 4: have to adjust and it's cold, hurt and like all
Speaker 4: that stuff. But I think in a lot of ways
Speaker 4: it's going to be like cool, easier, you know, with
Speaker 4: like pop out and do anything with her, you know,
Speaker 4: go to the museums and restaurants and like, you know,
Speaker 4: parks and it's New York's just walk out the door
Speaker 4: and see people.
Speaker 2: Like you're all experiencing that for the first time, for
Speaker 2: the first time together, which is really cool. Wow ye
Speaker 2: how sweet?
Speaker 1: Well we are. I can't wait, and I'm definitely gonna
Speaker 1: come and try and.
Speaker 2: We're going to be so My favorite thing to do
Speaker 2: is like, give me an excuse to go see a
Speaker 2: friend in a show, I will go.
Speaker 4: I also get nervous, though, because then it's that whole
Speaker 4: thing of like you got to see them face to
Speaker 4: face afterwards and be like you were up.
Speaker 1: There, I was really you, like you are having so
Speaker 1: comes are so beautiful.
Speaker 2: I didn't use that once for the record. One time
Speaker 2: I saw French I was like, that show was so
Speaker 2: much fun and I wanted to throw myself in front
Speaker 2: of a car. You know, it's the worst.
Speaker 1: I like to know if people are in the audience beforehand,
Speaker 1: or do you want to wait until after the show
Speaker 1: to know.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I see generally yeah, people are like, don't tell me
Speaker 4: until after, but like, I don't know. I think I'll
Speaker 4: have to get back to you on that one. It's
Speaker 4: been so long, I mean I haven't since I haven't
Speaker 4: been on stage since Westside, and I was you know,
Speaker 4: baby John, and I wasn't like like sitting in all night,
Speaker 4: So I think I like to know, though, I think
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, I think I like to know.
Speaker 1: Kevin vamboozled me and texted me flew to New York
Speaker 1: and then texted me when he was at the theater
Speaker 1: and at half hour and said, have a good show.
Speaker 3: And it was just a waitress.
Speaker 4: I don't think you did that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I did it with Ryan Bazquez.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, amazing.
Speaker 3: They're all under study.
Speaker 1: He was great. But you did spring Away to Right Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I did it with Lean Groff with the original cast
Speaker 1: in Skyler and then halfway through my run they left,
Speaker 1: they you know, the originals all left. But yeah, that
Speaker 1: was fun.
Speaker 4: It was Yeah, that was like a moment for everyone.
Speaker 4: That's I mean, I was I think sixteen when I
Speaker 4: saw that show and it was like life changing. This
Speaker 4: is yeah, it's yeah, life changing. Yeah, it's probably how
Speaker 4: everyone felt in ninety six when I saw Rat You're like, wait,
Speaker 4: this musical theater can.
Speaker 5: Be like this exactly, exactly know every word. You were
Speaker 5: talking about Glee for a.
Speaker 2: Little bit, yeah, if we must.
Speaker 1: If we must, you were doing West Side Story tour,
Speaker 1: and you finished your last show of the tour and
Speaker 1: then you started filming the next day on Glee.
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 4: Almost? So I had twelve shows left, I had, like yeah,
Speaker 4: and I was like almost done with my year, and
Speaker 4: and knew I wasn't going to do a second year,
Speaker 4: like I was gonna go to New York or something,
Speaker 4: and and yeah, so I was almost done. And but yes,
Speaker 4: I was like on stage like probably less than forty
Speaker 4: eight hours like before I was like suddenly on.
Speaker 1: Set and you had auditioned for Lee initially, not for
Speaker 1: the role of Sebastian.
Speaker 4: Correct. Yeah, I don't even it was like a one
Speaker 4: scene it was there was like a tap dancer. I
Speaker 4: don't even remember, like I vaguely remember the episode. It
Speaker 4: was like some group of guys that were like tap dancers.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: So then they called you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, They're like we liked you, but do this again.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't think it was like a when they
Speaker 4: saw me, they were like, we need him for something else. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't. I think, you know, Robert remembered me, and
Speaker 4: and when Sebastian it wasn't Sebastian, I remember. I'll never
Speaker 4: because it ended up being Sebastian Smike and the side
Speaker 4: I want to say it was like Cameron Connors. It
Speaker 4: was like not a different yeah exactly. And I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm grand Dustin. That means I'm gonna I'm gonna get this. No,
Speaker 4: but yeah, he remembered me, and I just, yeah, I
Speaker 4: think it just kind of they saw me because like I,
Speaker 4: I had auditioned once and they didn't hate me. It
Speaker 4: just didn't go my way. And it was lucky because
Speaker 4: I was west Side was in like Costa Mesa or something.
Speaker 4: So I took a train to and Yeah and went
Speaker 4: to the callback or yeah, because I think it was
Speaker 4: kind of the same thing. I made a tape I think,
Speaker 4: and they were like, yeah, we'd like to see you,
Speaker 4: So I took a train to the call.
Speaker 2: You also have to. I feel like anytime you have
Speaker 2: to travel for an audition, you're booking it. That's what
Speaker 2: the records.
Speaker 4: This is true, It's true. And then like this is
Speaker 4: water for Elephants. Is actually the second time I've ever
Speaker 4: auditioned for something in New York. The first was West
Speaker 4: Side Story and I was like in school and I
Speaker 4: flew to New York audition for West Side. You had
Speaker 4: a travel making tapes in no l a local auditions anymore.
Speaker 2: Damn, that's a good track record.
Speaker 4: Those are actually too well, No, because Flash Flash is
Speaker 4: the only thing that like, it's the only thing I've
Speaker 4: like audition for really that I've gotten.
Speaker 1: Like same but not even.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: So when you got the role, yeah, and you were
Speaker 2: so we talked to you know, We've been talking to
Speaker 2: people who have come on the show, and like, by
Speaker 2: this point, the show I've been on for three years,
Speaker 2: coming into an established thing like that, you can be
Speaker 2: challenging for any number of reasons. How familiar were you
Speaker 2: with the show before coming on to it.
Speaker 4: It's funny enough, like being with a theater kid, like
Speaker 4: I feel like I because I was. It would have
Speaker 4: been my freshman and sophomore year of college that it
Speaker 4: was like airing. I remember when like kids in my
Speaker 4: class were gathering in their dorm room to watch it
Speaker 4: together and I was just like nerds. So like, I
Speaker 4: don't think I was. I when I started auditioning, I
Speaker 4: started binging it, which I like now No, and I
Speaker 4: did the same thing when I auditioned four. It was
Speaker 4: technically arrow before I did Flash, like you binged. It Like,
Speaker 4: if I ever come onto a show again and I
Speaker 4: have not seen it yet, I will keep it that
Speaker 4: way because it's like to binge a show and then
Speaker 4: suddenly be in front of those people is the worst.
Speaker 4: It's like nerve wracking. It's like you're not it's like
Speaker 4: better to have been like I've never seen it, like
Speaker 4: you know, like you know too much. Yeah, but Glee
Speaker 4: was like also like unavoidable, like I was, I had
Speaker 4: seen stuff of Glee, and Glee was huge, and like
Speaker 4: I knew the music. I'd heard, you know, all kinds
Speaker 4: of tracks, and it was impossible to not know like
Speaker 4: how popular Glee was at that point and to have
Speaker 4: at least been exposed to it to some degree. And
Speaker 4: so I knew, you know, all of you guys already
Speaker 4: without even having like seen every episode of the show.
Speaker 4: But then also by the time I was on set,
Speaker 4: I had seen every episode of the show. So yeah,
Speaker 4: it's terrifying. I mean I'd never been on a I've
Speaker 4: done little things like kind of regional local things like
Speaker 4: on camera growing up, but like I'd never been on
Speaker 4: a set before. I'll never forget my first day and
Speaker 4: like shooting a scene in the Lima Bean is that
Speaker 4: what it was called with Chris and Darren and we
Speaker 4: were sitting at a table like talking and you know,
Speaker 4: like on stage, like you get like they're your spike marks,
Speaker 4: you know for lighting cues, and like you hit them
Speaker 4: or you're not in your light like and I just
Speaker 4: remember being on like they you know, they marked you
Speaker 4: at blocking and put the tape on the ground and
Speaker 4: I'm in a chair and I'm like, I think, like
Speaker 4: I can't move them, like this is where I'm supposed
Speaker 4: to be. So I remember like thinking like I couldn't
Speaker 4: like move my head and like couldn't move my shoulders,
Speaker 4: and I just remember feeling like I can't move them,
Speaker 4: and also like what's the frame? So like I didn't
Speaker 4: know like they could move cameras like like kind of
Speaker 4: move with you. Like in my mind, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I gotta stay right here, you know. I mean I
Speaker 4: was shitting myself.
Speaker 2: I was Wow. So that was your first scene because
Speaker 2: I think, don't seem like you're shitting yourself. And it's
Speaker 2: also wild the more we beginning to season to like
Speaker 2: anybody who knows you is like you are the most
Speaker 2: like nice, normal, like just great human being. You're playing
Speaker 2: an asshole. Yeah, and it's really disturbing to see.
Speaker 4: But it's like here's everybody has, like you know, it
Speaker 4: comes to playing any character. I think you like you're
Speaker 4: like what parts you bring yourself to the character. So
Speaker 4: I still see Sebastian's like, even though he's like snarky,
Speaker 4: it's like, like I I think kind of like that.
Speaker 4: Sometimes we're like I'm an asshole in my head, but
Speaker 4: I try to to say those things out and my
Speaker 4: wife will be the first one to be like, I work,
Speaker 4: I'm so negative, like I worry, like I have way
Speaker 4: more negative thoughts than positive thoughts. So there's ways to
Speaker 4: just kind of be like, all right, well I'm just
Speaker 4: giving voice to every shitty thing I feel like saying.
Speaker 4: You know, you just say it. So I still like
Speaker 4: see myself in Sebastian.
Speaker 2: I mean there has been the more also, like that
Speaker 2: you've shown up in the season, some of the remarks
Speaker 2: I think I used to it like when you were first,
Speaker 2: I was like, God, he's mean, but now I'm like
Speaker 2: that shit's funny. Yeah, he's like I don't care that
Speaker 2: you're with someone whatever it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I never saw him because me because it's
Speaker 4: me playing them. So it's like I need to believe,
Speaker 4: you know, everything I'm saying, Like I believe, I either
Speaker 4: really believe or I'm saying it for, you know, to
Speaker 4: get what I want. And so I never saw him
Speaker 4: as like a villain necessarily, you know, even though that's
Speaker 4: clearly kind of what he was like. But I was,
Speaker 4: you know, he's kind of wounded in some way obviously,
Speaker 4: why is he behaving the way he behaves, So of course, yeah,
Speaker 4: but I did think he was very funny. I thought
Speaker 4: it was almost like a like a Jane style of writing,
Speaker 4: the way they wrote, and Jane.
Speaker 2: Was like Genue edition. Yeah, it was. It was you
Speaker 2: Naya and Jane got to do like the snarkiest and
Speaker 2: we never normally had a guy who got to do that,
Speaker 2: and so you should have just like fire.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then me and I got to have a
Speaker 4: few times be where we were like fired back and
Speaker 4: forth at each other.
Speaker 1: And it was those were fun, snarky, snarky You guys
Speaker 1: did smooth Criminal, which goes down in Glee history is
Speaker 1: one of like the best, one of.
Speaker 2: The best, and aging like fine Wine.
Speaker 3: Still talking about online, fans still bringing.
Speaker 2: It up Oh yeah, we asked fans the writing questions
Speaker 2: for you, and seventy percent of them more about it.
Speaker 4: Really, I think that's funny. I mean that day was
Speaker 4: like out of all of my days of filming on
Speaker 4: Glye and like and it it really didn't feel it's funny.
Speaker 4: It's like I only had seven episodes, agree like it.
Speaker 2: While yeah, like I don't understand that because you became
Speaker 2: like a part of like so entrenched in our groups
Speaker 2: so quickly that I don't know it was only seven episodes.
Speaker 1: It's confusing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's crazy to me. And then because I
Speaker 4: also was then doing at some point I forged exactly
Speaker 4: what how like a stint on down to two and
Speaker 4: oh and that felt like the shortest period of time
Speaker 4: in my life. But I did nine of those but
Speaker 4: like and it was like they were like almost like
Speaker 4: in a row, so like I was on more now
Speaker 4: than I wasn't Glee, and like I don't think anyone
Speaker 4: knows I was on, but that like you know, as
Speaker 4: you guys know, like those the performance numbers, like the
Speaker 4: ones on the stage and stuff like those are like
Speaker 4: big days and big rehearsals before those days because you
Speaker 4: don't have time to mess around and but Smooth Criminal
Speaker 4: was like not that. We like were on location at
Speaker 4: some school and I did not know what we were
Speaker 4: going to do when we got there. We had no rehearsal.
Speaker 4: I had not spoken to anybody about what the number
Speaker 4: was supposed to be, Like I just I recorded the
Speaker 4: song obviously, but it was literally just like Zach was
Speaker 4: there and he was like they were these are the
Speaker 4: chairs and like it's just like cat and mouse and
Speaker 4: like we'll start, you know, outside, and then you just said,
Speaker 4: you guys get closer and closer and closer to each other,
Speaker 4: like move chair as you go on, clearing each other's faces.
Speaker 4: That was like literally the only instruction or choreography we
Speaker 4: were given. So we just kind of like were winging
Speaker 4: it and it was like a very shoot. It was
Speaker 4: probably like three hours to shoot that scene.
Speaker 2: What sometimes you may be four. You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just like not there was like no frills.
Speaker 4: It was like yeah, and it was all about those
Speaker 4: the you know, the two cellos who were just like
Speaker 4: in the middle too, Like I.
Speaker 2: Mean it's such I could cover, like it's such a
Speaker 2: good version of it.
Speaker 4: It's fun. Yeah, I mean it's for sure like I
Speaker 4: will say second to my favorite. Both my favorite things
Speaker 4: I got to do on the show were in that episode,
Speaker 4: and I want you back as my favorite thing I
Speaker 4: got to record and it's not in the episode Devastated
Speaker 4: and I'll never forget finding out too. We were shooting
Speaker 4: like it must be because I almost never did two
Speaker 4: episodes in a row. It was usually like or sometimes
Speaker 4: I'd do tune a round and then wouldn't be back,
Speaker 4: so like much late in the season do like one.
Speaker 4: So maybe it was the next episode, or maybe it
Speaker 4: was like a few later, but I was it was this.
Speaker 4: I was shooting the scene again in the line of Bean.
Speaker 4: Maybe yeah, there wasn't the scene too, and like I'm
Speaker 4: it's like the first time you see like a human
Speaker 4: softer side to Sebastian and he's like basically apologizing for
Speaker 4: being a dick. And we were in between they were
Speaker 4: like doing a new setup and we stayed on set.
Speaker 4: They were like moving some cameras and lights really quick,
Speaker 4: and we were so we were just sitting at the
Speaker 4: table and Nya goes, I'm so sorry they cut. I
Speaker 4: went back and I was like, Okay, they hadn't aired yet.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh yeah, they had to cut it.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, o, my god.
Speaker 2: She was she.
Speaker 4: It's on YouTube. It's on YouTube. They released the song
Speaker 4: on I think they released that.
Speaker 2: Didn't happen most of the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I heard too, and it was like finished enough,
Speaker 4: And I remember, I don't know you guys were in
Speaker 4: you were in that scene. I remember that. I want
Speaker 4: you back, Kevin. Were you there, Jenna?
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 4: Weren't you in that scene? Kevin?
Speaker 2: Don't am I thinking of? I think because I remember,
Speaker 2: I haven't it yet.
Speaker 4: I don't know, because because there's they carried They carried
Speaker 4: you down the steps because like that that room wasn't
Speaker 4: handicapped accessible, and I remember them carrying the wheel and
Speaker 4: they did a quick shot of like showing this is
Speaker 4: how he gets down the stairs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But
Speaker 4: it was like you and Naya and Leah and Darren
Speaker 4: and call FORER. I think we're all there. And you
Speaker 4: probably don't remember any of this because you guys had
Speaker 4: so many days. But I don't remember why. But post
Speaker 4: that was you know, an all day shoot and post
Speaker 4: lunch for the turnaround, one of the regulars was not
Speaker 4: still at work. I remember this, and somebody went home
Speaker 4: and somebody stand in was put into wardrobe to shoot
Speaker 4: the overs, and it's very obvious if you watch the
Speaker 4: footage on YouTube, so and the and the cut is
Speaker 4: like messy, you can tell it's like because they were
Speaker 4: like what do we do.
Speaker 1: Like sometimes to make it?
Speaker 2: I was completely forgotten about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so do you remember who it was?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, which made it all the more funny. When I
Speaker 4: was told in the life, I was like, really, I
Speaker 4: wonder why they keep.
Speaker 2: That, and like you know, like rumors spreading, like we're
Speaker 2: all talking to different departments and I'm like, hold on
Speaker 2: and I'm like getting up talk.
Speaker 1: To like wait, yes, oh my god.
Speaker 4: And I'm you know, so I couldn't be greener. So
Speaker 4: like I'm like, I'm like, I don't maybe this I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I mean I think it's tough for like
Speaker 2: someone like you coming into that position. You had such
Speaker 2: a big part of that episode too, like you were
Speaker 2: integraled to the entire episode, and the wheels had truly
Speaker 2: fallen off because that season it was just, you know,
Speaker 2: more is more. We were doing a lot of numbers.
Speaker 1: People.
Speaker 4: I did a show for nine years. I know what
Speaker 4: it's like where It's like there's seasons or stretches of
Speaker 4: seasons where we're like, what's going on?
Speaker 2: People are people are I think like and Ryan, Like
Speaker 2: we talked to Ryan about this, but by the time
Speaker 2: we did Bad, and I feel like Bad was the
Speaker 2: perfect example of the state of the.
Speaker 1: Show a thousand.
Speaker 2: Like, well, we were in a parking garage.
Speaker 4: There was the night before Christmas break Yep, it.
Speaker 2: Was nothing was choreographed, nothing was planned. It was cold,
Speaker 2: there was no.
Speaker 1: Safe the slushy, the rocks and everything.
Speaker 4: That was the last thing we did. Yes, I was
Speaker 4: very I don't want to reveal too much on this spot,
Speaker 4: like I know this is called that's what you're really
Speaker 4: in this, But I had another moment that's like stuck
Speaker 4: with me for years from that night where I was
Speaker 4: another moment of like I was just shitting myself, Like
Speaker 4: I had already been around for a minute and I
Speaker 4: had to throw that slushy I remember remember. And it
Speaker 4: was like probably legitimately like three or four am at
Speaker 4: that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: It was really cold. I mean we were standing on
Speaker 4: pavement in a parking garage, so like your feet are freezing,
Speaker 4: like your it's like so your whole body is cold
Speaker 4: because you're just standing on cold pavement. And and yeah,
Speaker 4: there was some added pressure to getting the slushy right
Speaker 4: in that moment that was given to me right before
Speaker 4: I threw the sion.
Speaker 2: Hod you practice it before?
Speaker 4: No? I can't.
Speaker 2: Well so because they used to have people like use
Speaker 2: they have like this dummy thing in practice throwing it
Speaker 2: at them.
Speaker 4: No, that makes sense, Yeah that would that would have
Speaker 4: been nice. No, because that was because it's true now
Speaker 4: I know, Like now the remark that was made to me,
Speaker 4: I understand differently after doing TV for so long now
Speaker 4: where it's like it was the end of the day.
Speaker 4: It was like, look, if this isn't if we don't
Speaker 4: get this, we need a full wardrobe, makeup, hair reset,
Speaker 4: and we got to do it again. And like in
Speaker 4: hindsight now looking back, I'm like fair, But like when
Speaker 4: it was said to me right before I did.
Speaker 1: It, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2: That's it's not fair to you though, That's not fair
Speaker 2: to put that on you. Ryan also was I don't
Speaker 2: know if he just doesn't remember because he's done a
Speaker 2: billion things since, but he's like I didn't He's like,
Speaker 2: I don't have any memory of like that happening, Like
Speaker 2: that shouldn't have been that whole what do you mean
Speaker 2: thing of us shooting in the garage till five in
Speaker 2: the morning. Yeah, like the whole system like broke, Like
Speaker 2: we shouldn't have been doing any of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But it's also that's like what Flash was like if
Speaker 4: I knew, because it was an action based superhero show,
Speaker 4: So like, yeah, you got I mean like Glee. I
Speaker 4: always say, like when Glee when people are like what
Speaker 4: was harder Glee or Flash, It's like, well, I wasn't
Speaker 4: really on Glee, Like I know, I had a taste
Speaker 4: of what that show was like, but like they're completely
Speaker 4: different and you can't compare the two.
Speaker 2: And in so many ways, Flash like you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's different because it's like I'm in the suit,
Speaker 4: which is like a whole other thing. And every Thursday
Speaker 4: and Friday night basically like there was always an action
Speaker 4: sequence in Flash that generally took place at night, which
Speaker 4: meant and it was usually it was usually like the
Speaker 4: last ten pages of a script, which meant like Thursday
Speaker 4: and Friday night, back to back nights, you were shooting
Speaker 4: like all of our night shoots from like five pm
Speaker 4: to five am, like literally every week, so that I
Speaker 4: got really used to that and I actually like wasn't
Speaker 4: bothered by it at all, But it's til we were finishing.
Speaker 4: But then, like Glee was like the schedule you guys
Speaker 4: were on in the machine of it all were like shoot,
Speaker 4: recording the music, rehearsing numbers, You're shooting it the next
Speaker 4: day and it never stops. And you went on tour
Speaker 4: and then you came back and you did it again
Speaker 4: with like a two week break. Like those first few seasons.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you guys even like survived.
Speaker 3: Had we were young.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like obviously not sustainable. It's like crazy how
Speaker 4: hard that show probably was for you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Flash also seems like that was extremely
Speaker 2: which is difficult. Like I remember I was in Vancouver
Speaker 2: a couple of times, like working on something else, and
Speaker 2: you were like, I don't even know what day it is,
Speaker 2: Like I don't know what.
Speaker 4: No, I didn't see anybody for like nine years, Like
Speaker 4: I don't know. People would tell me I was they
Speaker 4: were in town. I was like I can't, Yeah, I don't,
Speaker 4: I didn't do Yeah. I just like I love work too, though,
Speaker 4: and I and I get I can get obsessive, like
Speaker 4: probably to a fault, and like knew that I and
Speaker 4: I am super serious about like being very very off book,
Speaker 4: you know, and not having to call for a line
Speaker 4: and not. You know, I think that's like the theater
Speaker 4: where it's like you're you're just preparation is important and
Speaker 4: you shot prepared and I'm not like memorizing lines in
Speaker 4: a makeup trailer typically, So I was just like, look,
Speaker 4: I shoot all day and then I'm coming home and
Speaker 4: I'm memorizing and I'm doing it again, and then you know,
Speaker 4: especially and then later on when I was in a group,
Speaker 4: it was like, well, now I've I've got a kid
Speaker 4: at home and the time is you have literally no
Speaker 4: free time. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also I mean you were like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, you were the lead of that shows you're
Speaker 2: setting the tone. It's irresponsibility. It's like a whole different things.
Speaker 2: So I think that's makes sense that you don't take
Speaker 2: it that seriously. Then you know the problem.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then sometimes like I think I would could
Speaker 4: go too far with it where it's like I would
Speaker 4: just put way too much stress on myself, which could
Speaker 4: then result in me just being like way to run
Speaker 4: down and like, you know, I've talked about a lot
Speaker 4: over the years, so like it, I didn't know what
Speaker 4: I was getting into when I started it, and I
Speaker 4: had and I was twenty three and I'm thirty. I
Speaker 4: was thirty three when it finished, and I had a
Speaker 4: lot of growing up to do over the you know,
Speaker 4: like I made a lot of just mistakes, just like
Speaker 4: being too stressed and letting it get to me and
Speaker 4: like having to figure out how to deal with my
Speaker 4: own stress so didn't affect other people, and just like
Speaker 4: had a lot of grown up to do through over
Speaker 4: the course.
Speaker 2: It's just so much hostibility. You have nothing to compare
Speaker 2: it to. You're like, okay, here we go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's just and then you realize quickly too,
Speaker 4: like comic book fans are like, you know, they care
Speaker 4: harry about what the yeah, and it's hard not to
Speaker 4: get caught up in it all, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of pressure, a lot of things
Speaker 1: to live up to.
Speaker 2: And it was my favorite thing and that show started.
Speaker 1: I love that, we loved.
Speaker 2: We would order these gluten free Domino's pieces. I don't
Speaker 2: know why.
Speaker 3: Watch the Flash.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would sit down the TV and like I'm
Speaker 2: gonna watch Grant now for the next hour.
Speaker 3: I'd watch it on take it to work. It's so great.
Speaker 3: It was really great, so nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a support yours. You became family so quickly,
Speaker 2: Like I remember, like when you came on the show,
Speaker 2: we were just like this is our straight boyfriend, Grant.
Speaker 4: I mean I had literally not literally moved to LA
Speaker 4: for the show, as we said, like I had been
Speaker 4: I landed in l A and like twelve hours later
Speaker 4: it was on set, so like I didn't know anybody
Speaker 4: in LA.
Speaker 1: So wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like you guys were like a lifeline
Speaker 4: for me. I mean every time I got invited to
Speaker 4: go to like somewhere with you guys, like someone's house
Speaker 4: for a party or like you know whatever.
Speaker 2: Like someone last night asked me if i'd ever met
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift and I was like, yeah, I have.
Speaker 4: I forgot about that until recently until she's been like
Speaker 4: everywhere right now because you know her concert but than
Speaker 4: just the Travis Kelsey stuff. And I was at a
Speaker 4: party one time.
Speaker 3: It was our birthday. It was a shared birthday party.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was that was like Diana was right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was mine and Diana's birthdays and obviously were joint,
Speaker 1: but you know, she always loved to throw a good party.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, that was really I did not meet her
Speaker 2: though you didn't You didn't meet her, No, I just never.
Speaker 4: Being like and I honestly like I didn't at the time.
Speaker 4: I mean, she was already like huge at the time,
Speaker 4: but like, yeah, I don't remember being like I remember
Speaker 4: seeing her, Like I wasn't like I didn't like, it
Speaker 4: wasn't a moment for me to be like I need.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah she's around.
Speaker 2: Yeah she was there. I felt a similar way where
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, Grant and I went together. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: I don't know a lot of these people will just
Speaker 2: stick together.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well she also met like like Swifty was also there,
Speaker 1: but she had also been around some of the other
Speaker 1: cast and we had seen her Choice Awards and yeah
Speaker 1: things like that too show.
Speaker 3: She was still doing that circuit.
Speaker 2: But I completely I completely forgot about it. And last
Speaker 2: night I was like, yeah, but like.
Speaker 4: That's the type of thing that like could happen with
Speaker 4: you guys, because like it was, you know, such a
Speaker 4: moment the show and like and I what I was
Speaker 4: going to say was like I just remember thinking every
Speaker 4: time I was invited somewhere, like my first instinct was
Speaker 4: like my gol, Like I was so scared, but I
Speaker 4: was also like I want I want friends. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: want these people to like me.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: I still feel like that though, Yeah, every time I'm
Speaker 4: invited anything. Yeah, I mean, you guys are really were
Speaker 4: the best. Yeah, I know, you guys really made me
Speaker 4: feel welcomed.
Speaker 2: I think we looked out in that way, and like
Speaker 2: every time you bring we brought new people on, like
Speaker 2: knowing how difficult that could be, but having sort of
Speaker 2: a trial run with Darren and Cord and like how
Speaker 2: it works so well, and like we loved them. We're
Speaker 2: like okay, like we can trust that they're selecting good people.
Speaker 2: Robert I think has a great instinct for that and
Speaker 2: finding people who like work with all of us in
Speaker 2: a really great way, because there were times also it's
Speaker 2: like every time you get somebody on the show who
Speaker 2: is great and you become genuine friends with, then it
Speaker 2: does set a precedent for when people do come on
Speaker 2: later on and they're not necessarily the same thing, and
Speaker 2: you're like, well that's a bummer. It didn't happen often,
Speaker 2: it really did. It only happened like maybe two or
Speaker 2: three times. Yeah, but seven times it wasn't a big deal.
Speaker 2: But we were just like, oh God, okay, great, he's
Speaker 2: like talented and this is wonderful. So like we felt lucky.
Speaker 2: It also helped us, I think, maintain our heads a
Speaker 2: bit when you got some like new people around and
Speaker 2: we're fine.
Speaker 1: Cool, stuck in our own little bubble.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: We spent a lot of time.
Speaker 4: Much nice to see like you know, unfamous poor folk
Speaker 4: come onto the show.
Speaker 2: You have like you know, Gwyneth coming on the ship.
Speaker 2: I don't have to.
Speaker 4: Speak this kidding, no, I mean something, you know. I
Speaker 4: mean Flash was very.
Speaker 2: Differently like incredible people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. I mean Glee
Speaker 4: was just like such I mean like Glee was like
Speaker 4: a moment in TV history, you know, and well the
Speaker 4: Greater Error Verse was like what Greg Burlanty did with
Speaker 4: that was like had never been done and it will
Speaker 4: be I think looking back, like a moment in TV
Speaker 4: history was like, wow, they're really did all those superheroes
Speaker 4: crossing over? You know? But yeah, we had like Mark Hamill,
Speaker 4: you know, came on with Skywalker and like all like
Speaker 4: all kinds of crazy people that you're like I want
Speaker 4: to be friends with you, but like I know I'm
Speaker 4: going to be weird with you, so like I know
Speaker 4: we're not going to be friends because like I am
Speaker 4: too starstruck by you.
Speaker 2: Like I remember that Mark, like watching that and being like, wow,
Speaker 2: was he how was he doing right now? Like crazy?
Speaker 2: That's really great?
Speaker 4: And he was. He was. It was like not what
Speaker 4: I expected to where he's first of all, like very
Speaker 4: warm and nice and not that I'd expected him to
Speaker 4: not be that, but the part that was like he
Speaker 4: was like a very serious actor and like didn't talk
Speaker 4: a lot in between because he was like he was
Speaker 4: kind of playing like he was playing the tricks there,
Speaker 4: which is like kind of like Joker, and he was
Speaker 4: just like this like fucked up like you know, kind
Speaker 4: of serial killer villain type guy, and so like he
Speaker 4: stayed in this weird like in between scenes he sat
Speaker 4: in this like crossed like a position that I don't
Speaker 4: even know how he did it, and was just like
Speaker 4: he was like the first time I worked yeah, like
Speaker 4: in a really cool way. He was like creepy the
Speaker 4: first time I worked with him.
Speaker 1: Cool, Yeah, but.
Speaker 4: He knew also like Jesse Jesse al Martin that was
Speaker 4: on the show was like, Jesse is not a mad person.
Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, an icon and like told, you know,
Speaker 4: gush to Mark about Star Wars and all kinds of
Speaker 4: stuff and and I can't remember if he brought if
Speaker 4: Jesse brought this lightsaber or if Mark got it, but
Speaker 4: like he's signed it for Jesse, like made a force
Speaker 4: be with you, your friend Mark, And.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so so you guys did a musical episode
Speaker 1: of The Flash forgive me. I don't think I saw that,
Speaker 1: But what was that like? And was that anything like
Speaker 1: Glee because obviously you've done both.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it did end up being sim alert because
Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys know this. Well, first
Speaker 4: of all, Melissa's in the episode and we had never
Speaker 4: worked together on Glee, I don't think, but we were
Speaker 4: able to like, you know, share Glee stories while on set.
Speaker 4: And then Darren comes up and is in the episode.
Speaker 4: That's so funny, So that was bizarre. And then even crazier,
Speaker 4: Zach Woodley came up for us.
Speaker 2: So it was.
Speaker 4: It was clear like our producers like showrunners, because that
Speaker 4: was a crossover that was like a Supergirl flash crossover episode,
Speaker 4: and they did not know what they were getting them.
Speaker 4: So it was not like Glee in the sense that
Speaker 4: like there was no machine aspect to it where it
Speaker 4: was like where we can pump this out. It was
Speaker 4: like a very challenging episode.
Speaker 2: That took us a long time to get into a rhythm. Course,
Speaker 2: it took like maybe a whole season to figure it out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, of course, so it was and we were
Speaker 4: conceptually it was like a dream episode I think for us,
Speaker 4: and it was just like a weird like episode obviously
Speaker 4: for us to get to a point where we're doing
Speaker 4: with the musical episode. I think actually I noticed like
Speaker 4: a little bit ago, like right there or my like
Speaker 4: tap shoes from that episode. I've got, I'm gonna grab them.
Speaker 4: I've got, I've got they made. They're like dress shoes
Speaker 4: that we just play taps on and then right next
Speaker 4: to these or like this was like the coolest moment
Speaker 4: of my early career. They made you for west Side Story,
Speaker 4: like this is what we would dance and for West
Speaker 4: Side Story, and like when you got your first like
Speaker 4: I put right and left on my shoes as a
Speaker 4: character decision because I thought it was funny. But yeah,
Speaker 4: these were my little Disio tap somewhere tress shoes the episode. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so this is the last time I wore tattooes actually,
Speaker 4: and it was the first time I'd woren tap stooes
Speaker 4: and like, I don't know a minute eight years when
Speaker 4: I put them on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is there tapping in waterf relevance?
Speaker 4: No, not that I know of. I don't even know
Speaker 4: if I have like if I move at all or
Speaker 4: I don't know. We start rehearsal January second, so.
Speaker 2: Wow, whoa, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, physically I have no idea. I have the scripts
Speaker 4: and I have music, but other than that, like no
Speaker 4: idea what staging.
Speaker 1: I mean, based on a lot of the images and stuff,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of you know, circus trickery and but
Speaker 1: for you yes, right, yeah.
Speaker 4: There's real circus performers in the show that are incredible
Speaker 4: but cool. I don't know, yeah, what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: Wow, very exciting.
Speaker 2: Should we ask some of these fanquies and.
Speaker 1: Let's do it before we let you go? No?
Speaker 6: No, no, oh my god, Well this is one so
Speaker 6: like these were screened, yes, screened, and some of them
Speaker 6: we've actually answered throughout this episode, So okay, quick, Alexa
Speaker 6: wants to ask on behalf of the Dodgers fans everywhere,
Speaker 6: do you think k K has ever seen Glee?
Speaker 4: I can ask him. I don't. I can.
Speaker 1: Probably. Yeah, you're freaking out right now.
Speaker 4: So that's who I'm like. Athletes are generally who I'm also,
Speaker 4: I'm athletes were actors. Yeah, he's very cool and normal though. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: let's keep asking. I'm legitimately gonna right now. Well, we'll
Speaker 4: see if we can find out this podcast is over
Speaker 4: that just any episode of Glee. That's what I'm asking him.
Speaker 2: And why is already his favorite character?
Speaker 1: Stop?
Speaker 2: Don't you dare?
Speaker 1: Alex wanted to know what you felt, how you felt
Speaker 1: about them cutting I want you back, but we already.
Speaker 3: Devastated, devastated.
Speaker 2: Why did Sebastian have sexual at tension with almost every
Speaker 2: character on the show.
Speaker 4: I think it was like in my way of trying
Speaker 4: to manipulate my way onto a more consistent appearances on
Speaker 4: the show, Like this thing with you know, Blaine doesn't
Speaker 4: work out, like they're gonna, they will put me with somebody,
Speaker 4: he said, can't say I have? He said, I have
Speaker 4: with the emoji of the monkey.
Speaker 3: Kevin, it's never too late to start. Well, thank you
Speaker 3: for answering.
Speaker 2: I believe, Thank you, Kevinick. He is really quick.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's import what really great?
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: I like it and I send each other. She would
Speaker 2: go to Red Sox games and would send me pictures
Speaker 2: of KK and then when he came back to the Dodgers,
Speaker 2: then I would go to the Dodgers and send and
Speaker 2: like post them on Twitter, like.
Speaker 4: Of just taking pictures of k Oh my gosh, she's
Speaker 4: an attractive man.
Speaker 2: A second part to that question or answer is that
Speaker 2: we were also all obsessed with Grant, so we maybe
Speaker 2: it were happy that. Yeah, yeah, it could have been us, Yes,
Speaker 2: flirt with us and every scene yeah, yeahous.
Speaker 4: Because looking back to like, I think I think I've
Speaker 4: seen fans speculate all this too. I think Sebastian was
Speaker 4: probably by you know, so I was like, I was
Speaker 4: definitely like down, smooth criminal. I mean, we had a
Speaker 4: lot of sexual attention. He's definitely attracted to her. He's
Speaker 4: definitely attracted to like even like Kurt I liked to
Speaker 4: try to like flirt with when he was mad at me.
Speaker 4: I was like, how do I make this fight like
Speaker 4: kind of flirty, like, oh.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: Apparently, well, Emily mcclu said, was Sebastian really supposed to
Speaker 1: be Blaine's love interest in season six? Do you know
Speaker 1: anything about this?
Speaker 4: No? I have. I don't even know. Was I even
Speaker 4: in season six?
Speaker 3: No, but the phantom was saying it. But I think
Speaker 3: you were doing Flash already.
Speaker 1: But apparently the phantom had said that there was talk
Speaker 1: about Sebastian coming back to be Blaine's love interest, but
Speaker 1: that your schedule didn't work out. So I don't know.
Speaker 4: It was used to me. What year was that? Do
Speaker 4: you remember what year you were shooting?
Speaker 3: Twenty fifteen fourteen.
Speaker 4: So I was already I was already doing Flush, So
Speaker 4: let's just say, yeah, that's what thing I planned. But
Speaker 4: no one had told me if that was the case.
Speaker 2: So I know this was eighty years ago. But do
Speaker 2: you have a favorite Sebastian line you can remember?
Speaker 1: Remember Tina line? So let's be fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember any of my lines.
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, there was like a scene the only time
Speaker 4: I think I'm in a scene with all of you
Speaker 4: guys at the line of Bean and it was like
Speaker 4: a tracking shot where we were basically like y'all were
Speaker 4: all sitting like in a U and I was over
Speaker 4: here and a camera was like in a full three
Speaker 4: sixty track kind of going around looking at everybody and
Speaker 4: coming to me, and I know I said something. It
Speaker 4: was like talking about like me and Blaine had been
Speaker 4: on the phone the night before or something, and Kurt
Speaker 4: was getting sassy about it, and I was talking about
Speaker 4: something of steaming. There's something about a blazer. And I
Speaker 4: don't remember. I couldn't tell you for the life of
Speaker 4: me what I said on that, but I remember there
Speaker 4: was like a couple good one liners in that scene.
Speaker 1: We'll have to wait for it. I remember that, I remember.
Speaker 4: And I remember Naya coming at me in that scene too.
Speaker 4: I think I had a good one at Naya.
Speaker 2: In that scene too.
Speaker 4: That probably like actually borderline like offensive.
Speaker 3: Like no, probably not even.
Speaker 2: Yeah, both of you were spewing horrible things.
Speaker 1: Yeaheah like not yeah, has not aged.
Speaker 4: Well, there's stuff that it's like the Office, like the
Speaker 4: best show ever, but it's like couldn't be done today,
Speaker 4: like maybe not, Like.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, there's other ways to write jokes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: some of the things don't work yeah anymore. Yeah, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Mean because I mean, you guys would have like, you know,
Speaker 4: the the comedy did feel like personal at times. Well
Speaker 4: I remember him then, like Kurt referred to me as
Speaker 4: like horse teeth and like things that are like physical
Speaker 4: aspects of yourself that you're like, that's real. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: we're really making fun of my action. Like the writers
Speaker 4: looked at dailies and we're like, what can we make
Speaker 4: fun of about this actor? Like oh wow, so then
Speaker 4: you just have a complex for years about the size.
Speaker 2: Of your teeth.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize I said like a muppet until Jane
Speaker 2: said it to me in a scene. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they called.
Speaker 4: It like I think at one point he referred to
Speaker 4: my cub you hair too, and like a year later,
Speaker 4: a month yeah, pre flash.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's buddy, that's easy. Oh my god. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: we won't keep you. No, this was yeah, I was
Speaker 1: the only Yeah, answered a bunch of them.
Speaker 2: Was there a Kurt duet that you recorded that never
Speaker 2: made it on?
Speaker 3: They said, what happened to the Kurt Bastian duets?
Speaker 4: No, yeah, we didn't know, not that I remember.
Speaker 1: Oh, here's one, here's one you mentioned having created a
Speaker 1: backstory for Sebastian, What was it I know you touched.
Speaker 2: On that I did.
Speaker 1: Like in this interview like no before.
Speaker 3: This is from a fan, Oh, another interview.
Speaker 4: I'm sure I did to some degree, like talk about
Speaker 4: I also think that some of the interview like I'll
Speaker 4: like see a quote on like IMDb or something of
Speaker 4: like you know the section on IMDb that's like quotes, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, and like something I said in an interview
Speaker 4: like for like Glee when I was like twenty twenty one,
Speaker 4: and like it was just like what so nervous and
Speaker 4: like what do I say? Like just like making ship
Speaker 4: up and like talking like saying things that I'm so
Speaker 4: embarrassed of now when I look back at the like
Speaker 4: you know, faux pas or just think that I said,
Speaker 4: I'm like I didn't even think that. Why did I
Speaker 4: say that? Or you know, but no, I'm sure as
Speaker 4: an actor, I had some kind of back story thing
Speaker 4: that I you know, I don't remember now though that's fair.
Speaker 1: I don't know that's fair.
Speaker 4: I think he wasn't he like, isn't there like a
Speaker 4: reference in like my first or second episode that I've
Speaker 4: got like lacrosse practice to go to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that you lived in like Paris or something,
Speaker 2: and you drank glassier with your.
Speaker 4: Mother mother's milk.
Speaker 2: Yes, Like Sebastian's a wild, wild person.
Speaker 4: I did believe that a lot of the stuff he
Speaker 4: said was like bullshit about himself. Like I I feel
Speaker 4: like he probably lived at home in a small apartment
Speaker 4: with like just his mom and was able to go
Speaker 4: to Dalton because of like a different her dad like
Speaker 4: paid him to go. Like I don't even think he
Speaker 4: had like money or a nice family life, you know.
Speaker 2: That's like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I don't think he was like this spoiled
Speaker 4: yeah right, I mean maybe, I mean you can sometimes
Speaker 4: just be like, you know, spoiled and like so entitled.
Speaker 4: But I think he was more trying to be who
Speaker 4: he thought he was supposed to be, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 1: M h m hmm.
Speaker 2: I mean that is sort of it with the fan questions,
Speaker 2: because literally everything was about smooth criminal. Literally everything else
Speaker 2: is about Yeah.
Speaker 4: It really was like the kind of like the least
Speaker 4: interesting filming day I had, and like also like the
Speaker 4: most exciting, but then when it was over, it was
Speaker 4: like I don't know what we just got, you know,
Speaker 4: Like I don't know it was cool because I was
Speaker 4: very like intimidated by Nyer and like thought she was
Speaker 4: like really cool and really talented, and couldn't believe I
Speaker 4: got to do that duet with her, And so it
Speaker 4: was almost like more than a lot of other days,
Speaker 4: like an out of body experience a little bit, because
Speaker 4: there was no rehearsal. So when it was over, I
Speaker 4: was like, I literally don't know what just happened or
Speaker 4: what that's going to look like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes that's the brilliance of it.
Speaker 2: And we were intimidated being in a scene with her
Speaker 2: because even though we had known her and we're so
Speaker 2: close to that, because she's so good, like effortlessly so good.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, she had like an energy, like intense.
Speaker 2: Energy, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could be scared of her. You could be
Speaker 1: you know, we could be a lot of things for her.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like scared, but also didn't want to not
Speaker 2: be around her.
Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, no, like yeah, infatuated, Like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, that's the word. Let me use eighteen words to
Speaker 2: describe that.
Speaker 1: That word. Thanks for that, Thank you, that.
Speaker 2: Idiot.
Speaker 1: It's really good to see you and chat with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming.
Speaker 4: On, guys.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy I've run into you a couple of
Speaker 2: times this year.
Speaker 1: I'm jealous.
Speaker 2: Yeah you should be. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The last one was really I thought I was going
Speaker 4: to see you again and then I didn't see you again. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like stormed him on a red carpet the other
Speaker 2: day because I have no tact at all. He was
Speaker 2: like in the middle, I'm.
Speaker 4: Like hi, and we were done, but we were just
Speaker 4: standing there and then yeah, and there you were, and
Speaker 4: I hate My brother in law had just been telling
Speaker 4: me about this, you know, running with you.
Speaker 2: But here I am you like.
Speaker 4: Like you had no idea. You had spend like a
Speaker 4: full day and a half.
Speaker 2: Around, yes, a full weekend, realize hotel opening and pomp strings.
Speaker 2: Actually I'm using the water bottle they gave me. And
Speaker 2: then he comes out on like the last day and
Speaker 2: I'm like sitting by the pool. He's like hey. I'm
Speaker 2: like hey, and I recognized him because I'd seen him
Speaker 2: like walking around and he was like the head chef
Speaker 2: of this place.
Speaker 4: Here goes, here we go. And then.
Speaker 2: He'said, you know my brother in law. I'm like, I'm like,
Speaker 2: who's like Grant Gustin's her brother was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: I was like lucky you, and then I was like,
Speaker 2: you have a great brother in law. I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't know the relationship. What am I doing? What
Speaker 2: if they hate each other?
Speaker 4: He's actually he's going to drive across country with me
Speaker 4: to New York.
Speaker 2: But you guys definitely don't have a good relationship then yeah.
Speaker 4: No, I mean he's like a brother now, so like
Speaker 4: and yeah, just because dogs and baby stuff were there
Speaker 4: for so long, we're gonna drive, so he's doing that.
Speaker 2: It's so sweet. He was very nice and he's a
Speaker 2: great chef, and he is a great chef. I couldn't
Speaker 2: believe it. I was like, this is hilarious. It was
Speaker 2: also like such a weird weekend for a number of reasons.
Speaker 2: Then he came like, of course this is happening now,
Speaker 2: of course you related to Grant. Yeah, this feels right. Well,
Speaker 2: it's so good to see you. Thank you for spending
Speaker 2: so much time with us, And honestly, I'm just so
Speaker 2: happy and proud of you and absolutely going to come
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's going to be awesome.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Well there you have it. The Flash himself so crazy.
Speaker 1: He came on the show and then went off to
Speaker 1: do all the amazing things that he's done ten nine
Speaker 1: years of another TV show being the name of the show.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy, what a huge responsibility.
Speaker 2: Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
Speaker 1: Love the Flash.
Speaker 2: I ran into Greg brilanty years ago in the middle
Speaker 2: of the Flash and I was just like, you know,
Speaker 2: big fan, well obviously a big fan of Greg Borlante.
Speaker 2: I was like, you did the right thing choosing Grant.
Speaker 1: He's like, thank you, Kevin, thank you for that.
Speaker 2: I know you needed to hear that from me, mister Berlante.
Speaker 2: But with your eighty shows on television.
Speaker 1: Well thanks Grant for coming on and taking all the time.
Speaker 1: You're a busy, busy man, and you're very We're very
Speaker 1: excited for your next adventure.
Speaker 3: We hope you guys enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Grant, And if you're in New York next year, go
Speaker 2: see him and Water for Elephants, because I mean, that's
Speaker 2: gonna be so good.
Speaker 1: Can't wait. It looks so beautiful.
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