Speaker 1: Ho ho. Hello everyone. I'm Devin Simone and I am.
Speaker 2: Davon Rogers and this is MTV's official challenge podcast, Tens
Speaker 2: the season. People, ten tis the.
Speaker 1: Season to watch the Challenge. Paula La La La.
Speaker 3: Okay, this episode Day and I are a little crunk.
Speaker 3: I don't actually know why, but we are. And because
Speaker 3: there was a lot. There was a lot. I haven't
Speaker 3: even had any today, but I should. There's this pumpkin
Speaker 3: spice when you guys that I found. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: it is it is problematically good.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: A lot happened in this episode, so much we're going
Speaker 3: to get into an episode breakdown, but there was like
Speaker 3: a story within the story, some of which we had
Speaker 3: touched on previously, but we're gonna come back to it
Speaker 3: because it was all up in our face. First of all,
Speaker 3: did you guys catch that the name of this episode
Speaker 3: is what is it?
Speaker 1: Day?
Speaker 2: It is split? Bananas or bananas are split?
Speaker 1: Something about bananas and now you got it wrong, girl,
Speaker 1: it's you have one job.
Speaker 3: It's banana split. Banana split is the name of this episode.
Speaker 1: Producers.
Speaker 3: But also we've got to talk about it because we
Speaker 3: see our girl Tory, our other podcast sister and queen
Speaker 3: show up doing her dang thing, looking fabulous as usual.
Speaker 3: We'll get into that later, and she calls out Mariah,
Speaker 3: did you guys gasp when she did that?
Speaker 1: Were you?
Speaker 3: I wonder if she thought production like that they wouldn't
Speaker 3: air that part, or if she was like, nope, I
Speaker 3: want the whole world to know.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 2: Well, no, I think she didn't think it was gonna air,
Speaker 2: because even when she was saying that, she was kind
Speaker 2: of whispering and trying to mould it to her, so
Speaker 2: it wasn't like a TV moment. I don't think Tory
Speaker 2: did it for a TV moment. I definitely think she
Speaker 2: was just letting her know and right, you in hot water,
Speaker 2: miss mayam right? And yeah, definitely, And I actually respect
Speaker 2: so much, And I've talked about this before a little
Speaker 2: bit like I respect her calling out Mariah like that,
Speaker 2: because look, the Challenge it is is dysfunctional, all these things,
Speaker 2: but especially when you've been in the Challenge family for
Speaker 2: so long, or as long as Tory has, or as
Speaker 2: long as you have her I have, there is this
Speaker 2: sort of you know, if you've ever been mad at
Speaker 2: a sibling, right, and you can go in on your sibling.
Speaker 3: You can be so mad at yourself. We can like, oh,
Speaker 3: they get on your nerves. But if somebody that's not
Speaker 3: quite in the family tries to talk about your sibling
Speaker 3: or come at your sibling or hurt your sibling, you
Speaker 3: gotta be the first one to square up, right, You're
Speaker 3: gonna be like, nope, don't We're not over here. I
Speaker 3: feel like the Challenge family is like that, would you agree.
Speaker 2: Day that, like degree, yeah, it's one of the equations,
Speaker 2: Like you said, I can fight my brother, but you
Speaker 2: can't fight my brother.
Speaker 3: Right, and so yeah, and Mariah's newer into the Challenge world,
Speaker 3: and so Tory is like, hey, you know, you're messing
Speaker 3: with bananas, like not cool. He's really hurt And I
Speaker 3: respect her for doing that. And then clearly for all
Speaker 3: those people saying that, you know, Mariah shouldn't be upset,
Speaker 3: we had Narisa here saying that, like Mariah felt differently
Speaker 3: about James, which side We're gonna get into the James thing.
Speaker 3: Lord girl, if there ever was a walking red flag.
Speaker 3: But uh, clearly Mariah feels guilty because she's so emotional
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well I don't know because she said, it's
Speaker 2: my makeup messed up, and that took me out. That's
Speaker 2: helped me.
Speaker 3: Out, took me out with James being like, I don't know, girl, Like,
Speaker 3: like I'm.
Speaker 2: Genuinely having any emotion or a feeling. I'm not worried
Speaker 2: about my makeup. I'm in my feelings. And so she's like,
Speaker 2: is my makeup messed up? I said, oh, baby, which
Speaker 2: one are you really worried about?
Speaker 1: Which right? Are you really about it?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like I might wonder if my
Speaker 3: eyeliner had gone down, but I know that.
Speaker 2: This ugly crying, if I'm in my feeling ugly, is
Speaker 2: just going to be ugly. I also want to command Tory.
Speaker 2: And here's another reason why I don't think it was
Speaker 2: a TV moment because after the elimination, she looked back
Speaker 2: at Mariah and said, hey, get your head in the game.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I don't. I don't think she did
Speaker 2: it like I'm calling you out. I think she did
Speaker 2: it in a situation like what.
Speaker 1: Are you doing? I agree? I agree.
Speaker 3: I think it was one hundred percent authentic, And like,
Speaker 3: let's get into this little bit because there's been speculation
Speaker 3: online around timelines right, Yeah, Okay, so I did some
Speaker 3: because as a journalist, it's only I want to make
Speaker 3: sure I have the facts. We were talking about the
Speaker 3: timelines around how Civillains and the Challenge thirty nine and
Speaker 3: this whole thing. So as the real challengers know, Mariah
Speaker 3: and Bananas have been talking for a while, right since
Speaker 3: back in ride Er Dies Days, They've been talking for
Speaker 3: a while, kind of off and on. If you were
Speaker 3: called day, you were the one who actually pointed this out.
Speaker 3: Around Valentine's Day, Mariah had actually posted that she was
Speaker 3: single right on her social media, right, we had pulled
Speaker 3: it up. Mariah posted that she was single. Well, if
Speaker 3: you look into it, which I have done. That was
Speaker 3: around the same time how Civilians was filming, okay, and
Speaker 3: how Civilians didn't have the same restrictions the Challenge do
Speaker 3: regarding communicating with family, right or like just communicating.
Speaker 1: To the outside world.
Speaker 3: So basically when that was published, when she posted that,
Speaker 3: there were even news outlets I think trying to like
Speaker 3: get the scoop on that. Basically it was it was
Speaker 3: the post heard around the world. A lot of people
Speaker 3: heard about it, including people in house. Civilains heard about
Speaker 3: that post. So basically, it seems like they both were
Speaker 3: single during House Villains.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 2: He went to the house as a single man, or
Speaker 2: because he had access to his phone. He became single
Speaker 2: when he saw that post.
Speaker 3: So look, word on the street is because we know
Speaker 3: it's rocky. First of all, this was a toxic relations
Speaker 3: from the jump. I'm pretty sure I called that out
Speaker 3: in the podcast a year ago or whenever we did it.
Speaker 3: So let's just with a lot of hills, ups and downs.
Speaker 3: Word on the street is, they weren't really talking. They
Speaker 3: weren't together, they weren't a part, they weren't talking in general. Right,
Speaker 3: And then that post was made and then uh huh,
Speaker 3: and it was made while filming House Civilians.
Speaker 1: So then that there you go.
Speaker 3: I would I would, there you go. So then out
Speaker 3: of the House of Villains again. This relationship has been
Speaker 3: up and up and down this whole time. Uh, they're
Speaker 3: back up again, right they decide to I don't know,
Speaker 3: but I don't speak toxic very well, but you know whatever,
Speaker 3: they're like, Yeah, this is after House of Villains. They're
Speaker 3: kind of like back on whatever, feeling it out. And
Speaker 3: because I do think they both cared about each other
Speaker 3: and I think they, but they both just don't really know.
Speaker 1: It's just not anyway.
Speaker 3: So now we're going into Challenge House, and I think
Speaker 3: she said on previous episodes. I'm pretty sure we heard
Speaker 3: in previous episode her saying that she hung out with
Speaker 3: Banana's like, when we initially get introduced to Mariah and
Speaker 3: the James things, she said she hung out with Bananas
Speaker 3: a few days before going in part of Challenge House. Right,
Speaker 3: She's like, we hung out before, so clearly they're back
Speaker 3: on now, right, so they're back on. They hung out
Speaker 3: right before going into Challenge House. Well, then now here
Speaker 3: we are hurting James. So so no, she wasn't doing
Speaker 3: it because of House of Villains and if they weren't
Speaker 3: really a thing and it wasn't serious. Look back in
Speaker 3: my single single days, you know, I believe in a roster.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's necessarily bad. But I wasn't crying
Speaker 3: over a roster because everyone on said roster knew it
Speaker 3: was a roster, and therefore I didn't have to feel
Speaker 3: guilty around hurting someone's feelings. And I think Mariah does
Speaker 3: have a heart at decore, at least just what it seems.
Speaker 3: And I think that's why she's so emotionally upset because
Speaker 3: she knows.
Speaker 2: So let's for the viewers and for me just to
Speaker 2: kind of catch up. So Mariah did the post, Johnny
Speaker 2: saw the post. They weren't together when he went into
Speaker 2: the House of Villains. It wrapped he cut ties with Colleen.
Speaker 2: I think is that her name k K?
Speaker 1: Because that was never a real thing.
Speaker 3: If you watch House of Villains, which I'm I am
Speaker 3: late on some episodes now, but I will say this
Speaker 3: to me, everything Johnny does in House of Villains is
Speaker 3: so classic old school challenged Johnny as that makes.
Speaker 1: Sense, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like so like, yes he's flirting with yes he's whatever,
Speaker 3: But to me, it also strategy doesn't come across as
Speaker 3: like I want to be like not the same way
Speaker 3: it was when he was trying to court Mariah on
Speaker 3: Ride or Die, you know, where he's like cooking her
Speaker 3: breakfast and like making and like massaging her feet and
Speaker 3: singing her Like, Yeah, it doesn't.
Speaker 2: It doesn't to me, But you're saying by by watching
Speaker 2: No Shade, but it kind of gave rebound.
Speaker 3: Well, it gave rebound, It gave rebound and game strategy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: person Okay, okay, So so game politicking boom.
Speaker 2: So he Cutskrene off and then him and Mariah, we're
Speaker 2: gonna assume, because we don't know, we assumed they had
Speaker 2: a conversation, and then they decide to rekindle, right, And
Speaker 2: this is before she goes into the Challenge house.
Speaker 3: Right, and whether or not again, because we don't know
Speaker 3: exactly what was said, whether or not, it's like, we
Speaker 3: rekindle and we're officially girl from boyfriend.
Speaker 1: We rekindled, and we're.
Speaker 2: Like, there was a conversation talking again.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like you know, because you know, people also don't like
Speaker 3: label definition. You don't like labels and definitions, but you
Speaker 3: you knew are important for a reason. They're important for
Speaker 3: a reason. But I'm saying having those labels efinition are
Speaker 3: important for a reason. But that's a whole separate conversation.
Speaker 3: So whether or not how together they were, who knows,
Speaker 3: But clearly they were together enough that they had feelings
Speaker 3: for each other. They were seeing each other again, and
Speaker 3: they were hanging out with each other in the days
Speaker 3: leading up to Mariah leaving for the Challenge in a
Speaker 3: romantic capacity.
Speaker 2: So that explains why I'm torn between the two because
Speaker 2: you had this conversation. Girl, you shouldn't have had the
Speaker 2: conversation before going in this house. Allegedly. Oh oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: we gotta get her on the podcast.
Speaker 1: We gotta get her. You got it, We got to
Speaker 1: get on the podcast.
Speaker 3: But now I look journalistic integrity, all right, I'm trying
Speaker 3: to I want everybody to have. If I'm going to
Speaker 3: talk on something, I want to have as much context
Speaker 3: as possible. So I did some digging, and no, no
Speaker 3: one's telling me to say anything. I was looking up
Speaker 3: articles and dates and matching and trying and doing all
Speaker 3: the things. But there is the clearest timeline I can
Speaker 3: put together.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: And that is why I think Mariah feels so bad
Speaker 3: about it. And I do think Johnny was genuinely hurt
Speaker 3: by it. I do, And the fact that Tory even
Speaker 3: said what she said, and the fact, like I really look,
Speaker 3: I know Banana's been a fuck way in his past
Speaker 3: and still has some residue event he does.
Speaker 1: But I also know.
Speaker 3: And I think people who really know Bananas would say,
Speaker 3: at his core too, he's like he's he's grown a
Speaker 3: little bit and cares. And I think he cared about Mariah.
Speaker 3: Just the way he even treated her in the beginning
Speaker 3: I thought was very different than what we had seen
Speaker 3: from other these other you know, every situation shay. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he like pursued her in a way that I was like,
Speaker 3: who is this person interesting?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think he was genuinely hurt. So there
Speaker 1: he go. That is the banana split.
Speaker 2: We are following the trail and Dafney are on it.
Speaker 1: Totally agree. All right, So a lot was going on.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about gold stars and timeout nominations and winners.
Speaker 1: Let's start with you day.
Speaker 3: Who is your nominee or who are your nominees for
Speaker 3: Time Out of the week?
Speaker 2: Okay, so time out? I have two timeouts and it's
Speaker 2: so crazy because Mariah has never been one of my timeouts.
Speaker 2: I don't think if I'm lying then you know, whatever
Speaker 2: it is, I don't think she has and so I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get her my time out today. It's between her
Speaker 2: and e Manual because Emanuel, one, what are you doing
Speaker 2: with these women?
Speaker 5: Baby?
Speaker 2: What are you doing with these women? And the woman
Speaker 2: you got at home? Like it's a problem. You got
Speaker 2: Colleen out here in the trenches. Okay, she is out
Speaker 2: here drowning, okay, because you done stepped up and did
Speaker 2: all this playary around her, and I don't like it
Speaker 2: at all one bit. However, it takes two to tango,
Speaker 2: So Colleen, you might be in time out too, because
Speaker 2: what you're doing, man, and you're in the interviews, you're
Speaker 2: in your confessionals saying he has a girlfriend at home,
Speaker 2: so you know, yeah, you are fully aware of what
Speaker 2: you're doing. So I'm gonna put you in the hot
Speaker 2: seat too. Maybe y'all can share a chair, okay. And
Speaker 2: then also, I'm gonna get it because baby, I can't
Speaker 2: get past the Oh I'm so, I'm on an emotional
Speaker 2: roller coaster. I'm so hurt. But how does my makeup look?
Speaker 2: I cannot get past that. I cannot. It's giving Meryl Streep,
Speaker 2: it's giving give me my award.
Speaker 4: Nah.
Speaker 2: Now, now you want to talk about things that don't
Speaker 2: get shown. I don't think she thought that was gonna
Speaker 2: get shown, right.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, production was all over it. They were showing everything.
Speaker 1: They were showing everything.
Speaker 3: I'd say that my I have four nominees for Time
Speaker 3: Out of the Week this week. You've named some of them. First,
Speaker 3: one is Emanuel What in the Sister Wives is happening.
Speaker 3: All of it is terrill, and you have a girlfriend
Speaker 3: at home. I just don't see it. Then, Colleen, also
Speaker 3: because like you said, Colleen dismissively says. She says, I
Speaker 3: have bad taste in boys, clearly, and then she says, oh,
Speaker 3: he has a girlfriend. But now I'm mad he's slirting
Speaker 3: with all these other girls. And he told you he
Speaker 3: wanted to hook up specifically off camera so that his
Speaker 3: girlfriend didn't know. And you are surprised that he is
Speaker 3: the biggest f boy. Really really no, come on, absolutely
Speaker 3: not there. Someone else that I want to give a
Speaker 3: nomination for a time out would be Mariah for obvious reasons.
Speaker 3: We talked about it the Hoop and Anna Split thing,
Speaker 3: even her saying I'm going to stick with you know,
Speaker 3: I've kind of like I've already made my mess, so
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna keep being messy.
Speaker 1: Like girl, give him a call. You know that he
Speaker 1: already knows.
Speaker 3: You're saying you don't want to like let him break
Speaker 3: his heart on a phone call yet You're just gonna
Speaker 3: let him stew in it for weeks or however long
Speaker 3: and then contact him and be like, oh, by the way,
Speaker 3: he clearly already knows, so hit him up and stop
Speaker 3: being weird. And then the last one is, actually, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna get the nominee is us. And this is why
Speaker 3: Being You Dad podcast be guys. So you know, day
Speaker 3: lives in the Twitter streets. I see the signs occasionally,
Speaker 3: but we've had some great guests on and I love
Speaker 3: all of our guests you've come on. We talked to Corey,
Speaker 3: who showed he was a bit remorseful and that he
Speaker 3: can get defensive when backed into a corner, but he's
Speaker 3: trying to.
Speaker 1: Grow through it.
Speaker 3: We talked to Nourice, who spoke about her anger management
Speaker 3: and how she's like working to get better.
Speaker 1: But then on the Twitter streets after we've.
Speaker 3: Had these interviews, we see Corey doubling down on behavior
Speaker 3: and we see Nourice talking about how she just got
Speaker 3: off probation for beating someone's behind and that's why she
Speaker 3: was in anchor management. It doesn't so we have been bamboo,
Speaker 3: we hoodwink we were hoodwinked, and we were fire festivals
Speaker 3: on our own podcast, And therefore I have to put
Speaker 3: us in the nominations category for Time out of the
Speaker 3: Week because not these folks trying to act like they've
Speaker 3: taken accountability, but then they hitting the returns real quick.
Speaker 1: As soon as they get off the podcast. Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: It does not count as growth if it was court mandated. Okay.
Speaker 3: The real time out of the week though, is definitely
Speaker 3: gonna go to e Manuel. It's just like a hot mess,
Speaker 3: and thank you to production for showing that night time
Speaker 3: camera footage.
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, when was I flirt with the livy?
Speaker 1: And then we show them cuddled.
Speaker 3: Up and the fact that Raven's on one arm and
Speaker 3: Olivia's on another watching movie night. He can't possibly spell
Speaker 3: that good. There's not enough cologne and deodorant or body
Speaker 3: spray in the world for you men want to be
Speaker 3: cuddled up with another man while he has his arm
Speaker 3: around somebody else.
Speaker 1: But hey, that's just me. Who's your nominations for gold Star?
Speaker 2: Well, since you don't put us in time out, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna put us in the gold star department because shout
Speaker 2: out to our hearts for giving people grace, okay, for
Speaker 2: allowing people to come on here and tell their truth.
Speaker 2: And we don't judge them, we don't hold it against them.
Speaker 2: They hoodwinked us. They did but I'm not thankful that
Speaker 2: we have a heart of giving people grace. So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna give us a star because I don't think anybody
Speaker 2: in an episode was actually worthy of the star. Oh Toy,
Speaker 2: maybe toy for coming in, you know and home down
Speaker 2: the fort.
Speaker 3: But other than that, I don't you know. So I'm gonna
Speaker 3: give it to us, my nominees for gold You give
Speaker 3: it to us. My dominees for gold Star would go
Speaker 3: to production. Everything from the naming of this episode Banana Split,
Speaker 3: to them them labeling Kylan and Michelle event won losers.
Speaker 1: Now I know that.
Speaker 3: Technically that is like what was that put them showing
Speaker 3: that at the screen while Kylin Michelle were running like
Speaker 3: back to the thing. Something about that to me just
Speaker 3: felt so petty and hilarious. Also them showing that night
Speaker 3: vision camera. Also them showing those soundbites that clearly people
Speaker 3: thought weren't gonna make the edit, like producers get a
Speaker 3: nomination for gold Star. I thought that was beautifully done Tory,
Speaker 3: because she came in like a graceful mercenary, like came in,
Speaker 3: got it done so brilliant, so smart. Even the way
Speaker 3: she hugged Melissa was like I'm so sorry when she
Speaker 3: pulled miss name, which I feel like is both so
Speaker 3: sweet but also like the ultimate flex because she was
Speaker 3: kind of like it was almost.
Speaker 1: Like assumed you're going home, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like this is literally when she just pulled Melissa's name,
Speaker 3: she was like she hugged and she's like, I'm so sorry,
Speaker 3: which I don't know. I just found that to be
Speaker 3: like a funny flex but a good one. Also, TJ's wardrobe,
Speaker 3: it has to go in. I like the aviator glasses
Speaker 3: during the challenge with that jacket baby, and the hair brushback.
Speaker 1: TJ.
Speaker 3: Yes on all fronts, But I think the gold Star
Speaker 3: is gonna go to production this week because that.
Speaker 1: Was all well done. The produces definitely gonna go to us.
Speaker 2: I think we collectively forgot a time out.
Speaker 1: Who a soft because maybe anybody thought about your mama.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody talking about your mama?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just he needs to work on his listening comprehensions.
Speaker 3: And I love that Kylon stepped up. I love it
Speaker 3: and was like, no, let's check it, and as if
Speaker 3: had the audacity.
Speaker 1: Supermatic Corey a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2: But then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you're doing it to Colleen like, I don't.
Speaker 3: I feel like he's a little he's a little extra
Speaker 3: confident without having backed it up. Baby, this is your
Speaker 3: first win and you didn't get on your own.
Speaker 2: So like maybe PTSD because somebody made a parent pack
Speaker 2: to me and then crossed me too. So Melissa own
Speaker 2: this one. I'm gonna ride with you cause what you're
Speaker 2: doing don't make no parent pack with me because you
Speaker 2: could have just left it where it was friend.
Speaker 3: So I I mean, I completely, I completely agree, but
Speaker 3: we just had so many pressing timeouts that that's why
Speaker 3: he he was like an honorable mention and didn't make
Speaker 3: the top. But okay, so I know we had to
Speaker 3: get through. We had the trudge. There was a lot
Speaker 3: we had to talk about it. Yes, but you guys,
Speaker 3: the interview that we have for you.
Speaker 1: Is gonna be pure.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be can we are in our chaos since
Speaker 3: in this episode, okay, it's gonna match.
Speaker 1: We have the drink thrower, which we don't condone by
Speaker 1: the way.
Speaker 3: We have the spicy of Melissa on but it's actually
Speaker 3: a two for one special whoo today.
Speaker 2: The best friend duo, the best friend duo.
Speaker 1: But you got us.
Speaker 2: We the duo, and then we got another powerhouse duo
Speaker 2: coming on.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: One of these duos Canada politics far better than the
Speaker 3: other duo.
Speaker 1: Just to be clear, one of them can.
Speaker 3: Do much better, but the other duo might arguably be
Speaker 3: just more fun or a lot of fun. So we're
Speaker 3: gonna have them on and their fabulous accents. You can
Speaker 3: guess who our special guest is going to be. But
Speaker 3: you're not gonna want to go anywhere, So get your snacks,
Speaker 3: get comfy, ho ho ho, and all that jazz, and
Speaker 3: we will be right back with a fabulous interview with
Speaker 3: our girl Melissa and the ever fabulous fifty. Alright, you guys,
Speaker 3: because we couldn't get enough of this dynamic duo, I
Speaker 3: am so excited to introduce our guests for this episode.
Speaker 1: Of the podcast.
Speaker 3: We have the fabulous Melissa and her other half, Big Tea.
Speaker 5: Hey try everyone.
Speaker 1: I love this welcome.
Speaker 3: Okay, wait, you guys just came from dinner? Is that
Speaker 3: correct when we were texting?
Speaker 1: Were you guys?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: We are currently in a hotel. We decided to have
Speaker 5: nice girls tonight. We've got a lovely room with a
Speaker 5: beautiful view, a nice bath, so we've got with being
Speaker 5: for dinner. We've got a bottle of wine. We're gonna
Speaker 5: get a bubble bath together. We sound like a couple,
Speaker 5: you guys.
Speaker 1: Really that's nice, we're not. I love it. I love
Speaker 1: that kind of friendship. That is so great. And we love.
Speaker 3: On the podcast. I know, well, we have to be
Speaker 3: in the same city day first, we were filling our.
Speaker 5: Podcasts and we better have the same at the same time. Literally,
Speaker 5: I think things like I'll sit and I'll be thinking,
Speaker 5: I really feel like Indian food, and she'll look at
Speaker 5: me and she goes, we're not having Indian to night.
Speaker 5: I'm like, get out of my head.
Speaker 1: That is hilarious.
Speaker 5: Crazy.
Speaker 1: You guys are like soul mates literally.
Speaker 5: Film and auto and podcast. And then we booked a
Speaker 5: ticket and.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: I love that so good.
Speaker 3: What I didn't love was losing you this episode, Melissa.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna talk about this the game and and
Speaker 3: Big T.
Speaker 1: I know that you've already.
Speaker 3: Left us so far, but we just so much to
Speaker 3: get into, so let's talk a little bit first.
Speaker 1: Also, there's like drama in the Twitter street so much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a lot.
Speaker 3: So let's start with this week's uh episode, right, you guys,
Speaker 3: get put into teams. You you were playing doom Sticks
Speaker 3: and ultimately a soft Raven and Zara are the winners.
Speaker 1: Melissa, how did.
Speaker 3: You feel when you saw I mean it looked like
Speaker 3: you were feeling pretty confident that he won because you thought.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so basically right. My initial reactions to a SAFF
Speaker 5: Raven and Zara being and a team was to sabotage them.
Speaker 5: Now I was team with James, and James convinced me
Speaker 5: not to because he was like, I've spoke to Zara
Speaker 5: and Raven, They've agreed not to put you in ASAF
Speaker 5: this entire time, told me that he'd have my back.
Speaker 5: Being a fellow parents parents are he used to come
Speaker 5: to me. He cried to me about his child and
Speaker 5: which he missed his child, and I cried to him
Speaker 5: about how much on his mind he used the fact
Speaker 5: that I was a parent against me to pull my
Speaker 5: heart rings. Now, I am all about creating alliances, even
Speaker 5: seeing alliances and do what you do when it comes
Speaker 5: to being a parent. Don't be that right, but in
Speaker 5: my opinion, because you know, I would have had a
Speaker 5: SAF act. So when he did say my name, I
Speaker 5: was genuinely upset and from how I looked at it
Speaker 5: was like, imagine your girlfriend of staff was in my position.
Speaker 5: I am a mother and I don't have another. I
Speaker 5: am a single mother. My daughter's father hasn't seen her
Speaker 5: since she was two years old. She's almost four, so
Speaker 5: she only has Masa. For me to leave her and
Speaker 5: on the show for the first time and then for
Speaker 5: you to pull on my heart things and me to
Speaker 5: appreciate what you're coming through and used it against me
Speaker 5: in a way. I just thought that is just mean,
Speaker 5: and that's really so angry. And you know, there's been
Speaker 5: a lot of Twitter beef and things like that since,
Speaker 5: and I feel like Asaf as well as other cast
Speaker 5: members are kind of jumping on this trend of causing
Speaker 5: drama with those on Twitter.
Speaker 4: Okay, we did back his game player like to play
Speaker 4: on the parent card and you use it to plate someone.
Speaker 4: I think it's a bit too fah go to a
Speaker 4: single mom and like pulling her heart stringers like that
Speaker 4: because he knows what it feels like to miss your child.
Speaker 5: And actually, so I left.
Speaker 4: I actually wanted to say to look after Nellie for me,
Speaker 4: because I know she was missing Vienna, and he was
Speaker 4: coming up to me crying and I missed my child love.
Speaker 4: I was like, well, listen to someone that can look
Speaker 4: after my friend and understand what she's going through.
Speaker 5: And I'm start very in the back my initial being
Speaker 5: teamed with I was seeing with James, and you know,
Speaker 5: obviously with Raven being in that team of three, I
Speaker 5: said to James, I'm sabotaged in them, and James was
Speaker 5: like a promise she now spoke to them all. Raven
Speaker 5: wants to make a truth.
Speaker 1: And what made me believe James true.
Speaker 5: I'm just in the UK, in the UK stupidly enough,
Speaker 5: Like I trusted Zara before and she said she wouldn't
Speaker 5: say name. She said it again, like.
Speaker 4: Certainly before I left. The last thing I said to
Speaker 4: you was, do not trust Zara.
Speaker 5: I know, I think it's not sabotage in them, because
Speaker 5: it might be me being competitive because I think with
Speaker 5: those racing, I think we kicked me and James came
Speaker 5: close second to that team and being competitive wanting to
Speaker 5: actually win the challenge itself. But I wish I just
Speaker 5: sabotaged it, because.
Speaker 3: I will say Zara did actually fight try what she
Speaker 3: tried to fight, and Raven was like absolutely not, Like
Speaker 3: you saw a side of Raven. I feel like we
Speaker 3: haven't seen on the show yet until now of her
Speaker 3: just kind of stonewalling and being like I've picked Melissa,
Speaker 3: and that is it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Although can you to be fair, can you blame her?
Speaker 1: You did, yeah, you did throw a drink on her.
Speaker 5: Now and she didn't vote me in, I think less
Speaker 5: of I'm not superd like, I know the repercussions and
Speaker 5: things like that, but when you got two people that
Speaker 5: are saying nothing on your side, you genuinely think maybe.
Speaker 5: And you know, Zara was in the position a couple
Speaker 5: of times where she could have defended me, and if
Speaker 5: she's tried, I pre shape out but probably hurt me.
Speaker 5: Not because he's just promised me, because he used my
Speaker 5: daughter against you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he rolled quickly. I mean he rolled over
Speaker 1: like a puppy dog seeing a treat.
Speaker 3: I think if Asaf had held it down a little bit,
Speaker 3: then I think he and Zara may have been able
Speaker 3: to pull it out, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: two against one, but a soft rolled so fast that
Speaker 3: it was basically Czar on her own against Raven.
Speaker 1: And then and Raven was like, yeah, Melissa.
Speaker 2: I love that you brought up repercussions for your actions.
Speaker 2: I have been very vocal on this podcast about you
Speaker 2: and your feet and kicking nourice. She deserves that, and so, ma'am, no, ma'am,
Speaker 2: I want to know if you have any regrets about
Speaker 2: putting your feet on her, because honestly, honestly, the game
Speaker 2: was out of play, so you guys weren't even like
Speaker 2: still in the challenge of it, and you kicked her.
Speaker 2: You don't feel no remorse for that.
Speaker 5: She held my head on the wall to the point
Speaker 5: where I had mud in my teeth, like I actually
Speaker 5: had more. I was flustered without my teeth, with my
Speaker 5: extensions because she actually her head in the wall in
Speaker 5: the mud, and that's why I was so angry. So
Speaker 5: by the time I got up and someone got the ball,
Speaker 5: the game was over. So when I kicked here, that
Speaker 5: was my only chance to be like f you and
Speaker 5: kick her back because I was pissed off.
Speaker 2: Okay, see, and that's why the pod cast is so important.
Speaker 5: I didn't know it in the challenge itself. If I
Speaker 5: physically could have done something during the challenge, I would have.
Speaker 5: When you're just eating mud and like, you know, your
Speaker 5: face deepeness, and it smelt like horse poop. I couldn't
Speaker 5: do anything, and she had she had me face in
Speaker 5: the mouth, and it was like, honestly, actually use my
Speaker 5: own hair to floss mored doubt because I.
Speaker 1: Was like, that's actually very like resourceful of you. I
Speaker 1: never would have thought I would have to fly if
Speaker 1: you could put something out. But like in a pinch,
Speaker 1: not my wig.
Speaker 4: Everybody knows when you have Melissa in a mob pit,
Speaker 4: she's gonna kick you.
Speaker 5: No, she should have seen it coming. I'll do it.
Speaker 5: You're a challenge. But at that point it was just that.
Speaker 5: And I heard her saying I'll hold her hair down
Speaker 5: while she got the ball. So by the time it
Speaker 5: was over and the other team got the ball and
Speaker 5: she let me go, I still though, was like, fuck
Speaker 5: you kick because why wouldn't.
Speaker 3: You Okay, so it sounds like you would take back
Speaker 3: to throwing the drink, but you wouldn't take back kicking Maurice.
Speaker 1: Is that correct?
Speaker 5: Probably? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so we have clarity. We have clarity on that.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: We like to put no no more than I mean
Speaker 3: have it. Look, everybody gets mad, and I think at
Speaker 3: least owning up to some of your stuff is good.
Speaker 3: So if you recognize the drink thing, like, and I
Speaker 3: understand being mad when you and Raven were going at it,
Speaker 3: but it's like if no one's throwing a drink, no
Speaker 3: one throws you know, like you you sort of take
Speaker 3: a step back. I see Big T open around. Big
Speaker 3: T wants to defend you so bad, Big T. We
Speaker 3: do not enable bad behavior. But yes, what do you
Speaker 3: want to say today?
Speaker 4: Like Melissa, isn't some maniac that goes around like attacking
Speaker 4: people during time?
Speaker 5: Just reason? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: So I feel like every action has a reaction. So
Speaker 4: within Narie situation, she was provoked and said that fool,
Speaker 4: That's why she did kick. And then obviously with the
Speaker 4: Raven situation, she has recognizing yeah.
Speaker 5: I recognize that the drink. Like with the whole Raven thing,
Speaker 5: I think it got to the point where they were used.
Speaker 5: They were saying that everyone everyone was saying that me
Speaker 5: and Big Tall basically one person to whatever she did
Speaker 5: came up. Yes, one thing I found when speaking to Raven,
Speaker 5: I defined it frustrated because she just didn't.
Speaker 3: Say that, say Melissa, say don't overthink, we just overshare.
Speaker 3: Big Tier we're gonna have to kick you off of
Speaker 3: this episode.
Speaker 4: And she's gonna say that Raven is not the most
Speaker 4: intelligent person.
Speaker 5: It's like, have you ever seen Nemo?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: You know Dory? Yes, well Raven is story.
Speaker 2: Well, we're just gonna keep on swimming to the next question,
Speaker 2: straight and hair. So I'm talking to her and trying
Speaker 2: to get through to her.
Speaker 5: I just lost it. I was like, yeah, yeah, okay, whatever, Okay.
Speaker 1: We like that. We appreciate the honesty, we appreciate.
Speaker 5: The beautiful girl. I don't dislike care. I just find
Speaker 5: really frustrating to have a conversation with that.
Speaker 2: You guys, up until this point have been the biggest
Speaker 2: target of the season and an athlete. You have j
Speaker 2: and Michelle in there, you have a lot of there
Speaker 2: are a lot of payers in there, right, Why do
Speaker 2: you two believe that you guys were targeted the heaviest
Speaker 2: up until this point.
Speaker 4: I think people started to realize how loyal we are
Speaker 4: to each other, that this is a true friendship, and
Speaker 4: the fact that, like so going into the elimination ground,
Speaker 4: there was a point where I said to TJ, please
Speaker 4: pick me. I offered myself and said, Melissa.
Speaker 1: Yes, we did see that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think from that point people were really like, oh wow,
Speaker 4: these are really ridled eyes. These are even as the
Speaker 4: smallest alliance, sometimes the smallest alliance can be the strongest alliance.
Speaker 5: I think that had something to do with it.
Speaker 4: I also think that people actually he wanted to come
Speaker 4: for me and Melissa happened to be classical damage.
Speaker 5: I can't get and told by people, if T goes,
Speaker 5: you'll be okay, and then they sent you down any.
Speaker 2: Alliance.
Speaker 5: I got people trying to convince me to let T
Speaker 5: take the hip for me, to keep me in, and
Speaker 5: I was like, absolutely not. Why I'm sorry. If she's going,
Speaker 5: I'm going with that. And I didn't think it was
Speaker 5: because we were right or guys. I think it was
Speaker 5: more because we just had the smaller alliance and we
Speaker 5: didn't have the numbers. But the thing is we were
Speaker 5: the only people that it was like a whole cast
Speaker 5: of alliance.
Speaker 4: And then it's like everybody from Teamy, let's say, or
Speaker 4: had massive emails sent out to each other preseason and
Speaker 4: they all had this plan going in and we weren't
Speaker 4: contracted and so we were on the outs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they flew over together, right because we heard
Speaker 3: that the USA people all were on that long flight
Speaker 3: flying together, so they had time to kind of connect
Speaker 3: and talk, you know, talk and establish alliances.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was.
Speaker 4: Quite tricky actually because obviously I don't think that's the
Speaker 4: most best move to do politically, because if your the
Speaker 4: whole house is an alliance apart from right, you're gonna
Speaker 4: have to start turning on each other or something. People
Speaker 4: like us the floating numbers to actually back you up
Speaker 4: because at the end of the day, sometimes it takes
Speaker 4: just one vote.
Speaker 5: One thing I will say that it's obviously going in
Speaker 5: the house is that huge alliance. Now, any of them
Speaker 5: cast members that do do future seasons, we'll just look
Speaker 5: on one thing you will see about me an tie
Speaker 5: when I am your friend and I become close with you,
Speaker 5: and that going to the take for Kyle even like Banion, Honest,
Speaker 5: I've become so close with these people that in seasons
Speaker 5: I will have your back regardlessly. And that's one thing
Speaker 5: that we've found hard of like the likes of Corey
Speaker 5: saying that we're sneaking and sneaky and we use people. Wait,
Speaker 5: we don't, he was, We are very loyal, Like, look,
Speaker 5: we met on Total Madness. Yeah, and this is the
Speaker 5: thing you've moved on together since we are completely loyal.
Speaker 5: Meet me on Total Madness with like Kyle, I was
Speaker 5: did you see me argue with Josh? I'm the most
Speaker 5: little pissed and when you've got Melissa's the biggest steak
Speaker 5: in the season, I'm like, make it make sense if
Speaker 5: you want to sweet Yeah, yeah, I'm said, because I
Speaker 5: am not a snake.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that people are just deflecting my theory,
Speaker 3: which could be wrong, but my theory is one. I
Speaker 3: think they underestimated both of you, and so I think
Speaker 3: they thought you guys would be easy out to you
Speaker 3: Big Tea in particular, and when you weren't, then I
Speaker 3: think they started to recognize how smart you guys are,
Speaker 3: particularly you Big Tea. Not that you aren't Melissa, but
Speaker 3: it's been said that Big T is very good at
Speaker 3: kind of bringing people together and connecting and all of
Speaker 3: that stuff and sort of recognizing like the.
Speaker 1: Bigger scale of things. So I think they started to
Speaker 1: get worried.
Speaker 3: And also we know that the pattern is once you
Speaker 3: sort of target a person or a group, it's easier
Speaker 3: to kind of keep doing that over and over and
Speaker 3: I don't think it was fair to you guys at all.
Speaker 3: I think you guys so far were like the sweethearts
Speaker 3: of the season Sands, the kicking and the drink throwing Melissa.
Speaker 3: But we'll put an asterisk next. I think you guys
Speaker 3: are the sweethearts of the season.
Speaker 5: Was Na. The drink's thriving was like the last strul.
Speaker 1: It was like, I am, yeah, yeah, you're better than that.
Speaker 3: I think it's because we see you, We see so
Speaker 3: much potential in you. It's like, ultimately you're better than
Speaker 3: having to stoop to that level, like you can communicate
Speaker 3: whatever it is. It's like frustrating you or not even
Speaker 3: engage with them and recognizing that it's not worth your
Speaker 3: effort and time. I would say our one like friend
Speaker 3: to friend recommendation is next time we've got to work
Speaker 3: on like your prepoliticking. Because watching you guys each week
Speaker 3: when it came down to like your name's potentially being
Speaker 3: and watching you guys go around and Big T offer
Speaker 3: bribes or Melissa you go and be like why don't
Speaker 3: you vote in TJ was hilarious, Like it was hilarious
Speaker 3: watching you guys try and do this, Like last ditch
Speaker 3: effort politicing every single week, and it clearly never worked
Speaker 3: every single.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: It was funny to watch it, but it was also
Speaker 2: heartbreaking because I was like, damn, nobody has back, Like
Speaker 2: nobody is gonna ride for them, not one person. And
Speaker 2: even even after Big T left, right at the top
Speaker 2: of this episode, big T is gone and Melissa, I
Speaker 2: see you being comforted by Michelle and Mariah. For a
Speaker 2: split moment, I thought, oh, Michelle is going to try
Speaker 2: to pull her in because Melissa is now a lone wolf,
Speaker 2: and I was like, Okay, Melissa's finally gonna have somebody.
Speaker 2: But that wasn't the case at all. Did you feel
Speaker 2: that way?
Speaker 5: After Big T left, Urice tried to put me and
Speaker 5: the rest a conversation with me, and she said, I
Speaker 5: can I can like basically allow you in this allions
Speaker 5: now big T is gone, we have the targets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what did you say? What was your response?
Speaker 5: I was just like, cool, yeah, I'll except I've got
Speaker 5: any alliance And then obviously you told me the moment
Speaker 5: she came home.
Speaker 1: I was like, so, Melissa, did you join the alliance?
Speaker 5: Then you didn't really join it? Well, like they were
Speaker 5: going to allow me and which would have went and
Speaker 5: come on, I need I need I winning. I'm sorry
Speaker 5: if you be paid off. I just know what I am.
Speaker 5: That's me so much that I obviously we've not got
Speaker 5: to the elimination yet, and I could kick myself off
Speaker 5: the elimination, which I'll get into, but I feel like
Speaker 5: if I did win that elimination, I don't think I
Speaker 5: will be the main target going back. I think my
Speaker 5: maybe in a target was Raven, and I do feel
Speaker 5: like I in my line when I could have got
Speaker 5: Raven out before me.
Speaker 4: The thing was with Melissa's nice, Like people are scared
Speaker 4: of Melissa and not me, So I feel as if
Speaker 4: that's probably why Reese was like, oh yeah.
Speaker 5: Let's get Milissa. But that could have just been because
Speaker 5: of that also helpsart.
Speaker 2: Everybody we saw defend you by the way, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we saw Kylon defend you against Esaf.
Speaker 1: How are you feeling that? Were you like, yes, this
Speaker 1: hunk of man.
Speaker 5: Thiland was next to me when a staff was approaching
Speaker 5: me with these conversations and been a parent, and Kyland's
Speaker 5: very even when I was fighting with Bend and everyone
Speaker 5: Maurice rape you know, whether else fight with Caylen didn't
Speaker 5: get involved, but with the SAF he'd seen what a
Speaker 5: Sath was saying and how he was acting and how
Speaker 5: manipulative he'd been, and even him was like, he was like, no,
Speaker 5: that's not right. And he stood up and he was like,
Speaker 5: you know, what would you do if someone did that
Speaker 5: to your baby mom? And then Seth was like, don't
Speaker 5: you talk about my baby mama?
Speaker 2: Like that they got the baby, but I thought he
Speaker 2: was saying, don't talk about my mom. He was saying
Speaker 2: baby mam.
Speaker 5: Caylum meant was baby mom, and Asath took it as
Speaker 5: mom because obviously there's a language, but that situation there
Speaker 5: because Kylon was like like kyl and saidn't put your
Speaker 5: like your child's mother.
Speaker 1: In this situation. Yeah, and if.
Speaker 5: Someone had pulled on hair hard chings and said she'd
Speaker 5: have your back and blah blah blah, like you know,
Speaker 5: just toss the tables a little bit. So that's where
Speaker 5: they got into it, and they did like make up
Speaker 5: and stuff. But you know, I appreciate carl and getting
Speaker 5: into that with for me because it just re annoys me.
Speaker 4: How as I was calling you a snake when he
Speaker 4: voted you and all of this stuff. Like I said,
Speaker 4: it's actually.
Speaker 5: Making me really angry thinking so annoying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does come across is really annoying this episode.
Speaker 3: It's all right, he does come across as a little.
Speaker 5: And who's like making out with Nanny the whole time.
Speaker 4: So we all loved him, but I realized like he
Speaker 4: had his tongue down Nanny's throat and not using it
Speaker 4: just speaks And now finally he speaks.
Speaker 2: Oh my, what We're just gonna keep swimming.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I do want to know where do you and Kylen
Speaker 2: stand today?
Speaker 4: Yes? Girl?
Speaker 1: Oh she's smiling big.
Speaker 3: That what happened? And she just drank a glass of champagne?
Speaker 3: What's happening?
Speaker 5: What's you?
Speaker 1: Tell the truth?
Speaker 3: Tell the truth, Tell the truth? Say kind of Bill,
Speaker 3: don't overthink you overthinking? You don't think you over there?
Speaker 1: Baby? We were? Yeah, bay you big tea. Cut it out?
Speaker 5: Okay, Kyland has.
Speaker 1: Has what both to say?
Speaker 5: England?
Speaker 1: Yay? We love that. I mean, I'm assuming he's coming
Speaker 1: to see you.
Speaker 5: But then what happened?
Speaker 1: Oh say that, yes, what happened?
Speaker 2: Yes you can't what happened?
Speaker 5: I canceled?
Speaker 1: You did?
Speaker 2: Oh my list.
Speaker 5: We're gonna rearray.
Speaker 1: Yees, wait, but why did you cancel?
Speaker 5: Okay, I can't get a babysitter.
Speaker 2: Girl, I'm not a feeling.
Speaker 5: I'm busy.
Speaker 1: Watch what about?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I bring the mail? Oh good bye.
Speaker 3: And now we found out how deep the loyalty lies
Speaker 3: and stops right there babysitting duties.
Speaker 1: That clearly the.
Speaker 5: Situation is as Tea is staying with me. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: callen and don't get along and I never why because
Speaker 5: Kylin was encouraging Melissa.
Speaker 4: He's trying to tell her gat the tee to throw
Speaker 4: herself in all of the stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that you can.
Speaker 4: Basically, Kyle has been trying to like timeinister against me
Speaker 4: and you don't turn family against family. Comes to the
Speaker 4: UK and then the baby saiter, I'm not gonna help
Speaker 4: because Kylin, I'm not on your.
Speaker 3: Side, Like when have you and Kylin spoken about this
Speaker 3: since the show?
Speaker 5: Me kylaime? But she she gives a middle finger and
Speaker 5: now she's taught Vienna my three yet to do that.
Speaker 5: That's where she.
Speaker 4: Learned.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she learned it from you.
Speaker 2: So so there is okay, Okay, so let's let's let's
Speaker 2: let's stick to this because we can see and you
Speaker 2: have said Melissa is your family, right, so if you
Speaker 2: see that your family is big. I mean cheeks was
Speaker 2: high as hell when we brought up Kylin's name. Yes,
Speaker 2: she begs her have this big smile. Is it worth
Speaker 2: you having a conversation with Kylin to try to get
Speaker 2: past that for the benefit of your family, because, I mean,
Speaker 2: the girl she's changing big.
Speaker 4: I will conversations with there we go people that progress
Speaker 4: without the middle finger involved, big t, no middle finger involved.
Speaker 5: I'm so busy on Monday, I will have a conversation.
Speaker 2: She's gonna schedule me in.
Speaker 3: So it sounds like you and Kylind though, are still
Speaker 3: a thing. Are you guys, like exclusively a couple? Are
Speaker 3: you guys just talking but just talking?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's cute and at least on it they
Speaker 2: put something on.
Speaker 1: It, right, Maria, that's what I'm dating.
Speaker 5: I don't know myself down to one guy who like
Speaker 5: I'm single, challenge.
Speaker 4: They live in different continents, like you know at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, like Carland has been watching Melissa
Speaker 4: on the show, and also.
Speaker 5: He's a shan of Melissa and anyway.
Speaker 2: And then you also you're a mom and mom to mom.
Speaker 2: Everybody can be around the baby. Everybody can be around baby,
Speaker 2: so you gotta be careful.
Speaker 5: But not only that. I want the beingion to happen.
Speaker 5: To see what happened between him and Raven. Oh, we
Speaker 5: need to get what That's why I have an issue
Speaker 5: with him.
Speaker 1: Okay, what happened.
Speaker 4: I've heard from several cast members same like three seven anyway,
Speaker 4: which he said after Melissa left Kyland was massage and raising,
Speaker 4: and he went to them and said, Melissa doesn't mind
Speaker 4: if I massage or hook up with somebody after I leave.
Speaker 5: We had a deal and our it showed my show.
Speaker 5: So then I tell Melissa this, and then Kylin's like, oh,
Speaker 5: big tea.
Speaker 4: Hears things differently and she's lying, and thank god I taxed.
Speaker 4: Some cast members are like, no, me an X heard it,
Speaker 4: and I showed her the RECEI obviously believe me. Anyways,
Speaker 4: when I'm trying to the friend, my best friend, then
Speaker 4: you're like lying, gaslighting her, calling somebody who loves her
Speaker 4: more than.
Speaker 5: You do their fans a liar. It's just that's why
Speaker 5: I have an issue.
Speaker 1: That's why you're unavailable to babysit. On Monday, got it.
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, you know, do you want to talk?
Speaker 5: And I was like, talk about what?
Speaker 2: So there you have something to talk about.
Speaker 1: Damn it.
Speaker 3: I mean at this point in the episode, Raven's cuddled
Speaker 3: up under Emain Well, and so is Olivia and so
Speaker 3: is Colleen.
Speaker 1: So, by the way, Big Tea, I saw the tweet
Speaker 1: that you put out.
Speaker 3: If you want to speak to that at all about
Speaker 3: Ima and Well and his girlfriend, Okay, I'm not.
Speaker 4: Gonna lie like my back is up against the wall.
Speaker 4: Yesterday was a big day. Corey Lay had tweeted private photographs,
Speaker 4: taking screenshots of Melissa and I in secret, and she
Speaker 4: didn't have.
Speaker 5: A wake on or makeup. Can you imagine someone screenshot
Speaker 5: you without your wake or makeup. I'm hosting it online.
Speaker 4: I thought it was a private conversation with my face
Speaker 4: there when I'm looking horrendous.
Speaker 1: Out now you're beautiful.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Corey was wrong for that, But just no, Big Tea,
Speaker 3: and we have seen you without your wig. We saw
Speaker 3: you take him off in a couple of the challenges
Speaker 3: this season, which I was I gave you a shout
Speaker 3: out for, by the way, in earlier episodes, but it
Speaker 3: was not just that, like I was.
Speaker 4: In a very vulnerable situation, and I think that I
Speaker 4: thought was like a private conversation. And it's not just that,
Speaker 4: like he's done a screenshot of it.
Speaker 5: And a lie a caption. If you're gonna do a screenshot, at.
Speaker 4: Least how the truth, right, Like Okay, I hold my
Speaker 4: hands up, you got me. But he loves and so
Speaker 4: therefore I went absolutely wild. I was really really upset.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 4: Then I see this tweet about Emmanuel coming for me
Speaker 4: and saying that I had faked tears when it came
Speaker 4: to the whole core related situation. So I thought he
Speaker 4: was mocking me about something very traumatic and very diff
Speaker 4: So I.
Speaker 5: Was just like, screw you all, Like I'm just gonna
Speaker 5: tell the truth about you. I know what happened in
Speaker 5: the bathroom.
Speaker 4: Manuel and people did, and yeah, stuff did go down
Speaker 4: in the bathroom with a man Annual. He has a
Speaker 4: message to me today saying that his ex I didn't
Speaker 4: there's an ex or not knows everything. And I was
Speaker 4: just like, okay, good, I'm glad that she knows. I
Speaker 4: don't really care.
Speaker 1: All fine, Vikti are you just messy? In the Challenge house, they.
Speaker 4: Wait the way that they treatd me this season like
Speaker 4: I literally am like this is two point?
Speaker 1: Is this your villain origin story sent to me?
Speaker 4: I will be loyaled, your secrets gone, whatever, But if
Speaker 4: you're going to make me feel prependous, spread rumors about me,
Speaker 4: be nasty on a personal level. Not a game, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I will play, and you know what, I think that's
Speaker 4: the thing and correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: I think that's the thing with you ladies and Corey.
Speaker 2: At this point, we're past the game. We're past the
Speaker 2: game and now it's it's the social media and it's
Speaker 2: the blow welling.
Speaker 3: He came on the podcast and he apologies, acknowledged that
Speaker 3: he was wrong, and he showed remorse in said he
Speaker 3: hasn't aired yet. Side note that episode hasn't aired yet,
Speaker 3: but he's come on the podcast and apodcast.
Speaker 5: Wait that does he does he apologize about tweets or
Speaker 5: about out.
Speaker 3: He apologizes about the way he like went for you
Speaker 3: guys and criticized you guys, and the way that he
Speaker 3: like talked about you guys. He said, he, you know,
Speaker 3: handled it wrong, and he was trying to fit in
Speaker 3: and he's trying to do better and he hopes that
Speaker 3: he you guys eventually will forgive.
Speaker 1: He like what he said.
Speaker 2: He says he wants to have a conversation with you
Speaker 2: guys and wash everything.
Speaker 1: This was a few weeks ago.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to go now because this is why
Speaker 5: we went on Instagram because it was like the day
Speaker 5: of the deliberation where he went for me and baby
Speaker 5: Ty And there's a time he spoke to both of
Speaker 5: us and we knew his name was going around and
Speaker 5: we were literally the only two people that was not
Speaker 5: going to say his name. Wow. So because this guy's
Speaker 5: elimination not gales, guys. And then he outdoors and says
Speaker 5: I'm abusing you both blah blah blah blah, which makes
Speaker 5: no sense at all because he got no information out
Speaker 5: was we both went stupid enough to say anything to him.
Speaker 5: We wouldn't like it. It made no sense, and his
Speaker 5: alliance trusted him even.
Speaker 1: Less because yeah, it was a stupid movie.
Speaker 5: Stupid and I said this. Two of my said, you
Speaker 5: know what you've messed yourself for for this season and
Speaker 5: the future season because you will never be trusted again anyway.
Speaker 5: Right after that deliberation, he comes up to me and
Speaker 5: he's like, Melissa, I'm so sorry, Like, you know, I
Speaker 5: know we've got along so well, but you know, imagine
Speaker 5: I've known Qurey for longer. Yeah, and you know the
Speaker 5: thing I'd like to say, you've seen me. I've got
Speaker 5: a short term argument at that point when Corey said,
Speaker 5: did I pop off?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 5: No, I was here, and I actually like shed tear,
Speaker 5: like the ice creen fucking cry that hair. What hurted
Speaker 5: me was this girl is my sister and she just
Speaker 5: come out, she just had this party in Corey had
Speaker 5: been there for her. He can be there for her
Speaker 5: in a way that I can't be. You know, obviously
Speaker 5: black guy, she's black guy, she's I can't be there
Speaker 5: for her in that way. I'm not gay, I'm not black.
Speaker 5: I like, I can't. I can be never heard of
Speaker 5: a friend, but I can't relate in that, you know,
Speaker 5: I can't. I can't say I know what you go
Speaker 5: with you because I don't. And he was and I
Speaker 5: sat next to him and Hair and he told us
Speaker 5: his story and he was there for her, and I thought,
Speaker 5: this guy, he's so nice. I think it's amazing. I
Speaker 5: love it, and I like having my friend bees of
Speaker 5: coursed by someone in a situation where I can support her,
Speaker 5: I can't relate and for hours later for him to
Speaker 5: then out in that deliberation at how we did, that's
Speaker 5: what hit me so much. So he took me.
Speaker 4: He took me three days to apologize to me from
Speaker 4: Melissa who apologized to found So if.
Speaker 5: We's a liberation and he called to me straight away,
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm so sorry about that. You know
Speaker 5: it is what it is. My lines Wren trusted to me,
Speaker 5: and I was like, Cory, you treated it was like
Speaker 5: we were in our Humans.
Speaker 4: And in season thirty seven, my first season, Corey, he
Speaker 4: started yelling at me for no reason, but also what
Speaker 4: you want to know about this whole Cory thing. He
Speaker 4: was like, this, this deliberation is big tea. You walk
Speaker 4: around the house. He owned the house. I've already been
Speaker 4: sent down to her elimination several times.
Speaker 5: I already have like maybe I came into the house
Speaker 5: like yeah, already now.
Speaker 4: I'm not like a cocky or whatever person like, and
Speaker 4: I was feeling very already like and I was like
Speaker 4: going into my shell. So it felt like he was
Speaker 4: packing and happy feel smaller than reason. He touched me
Speaker 4: more than Melissa exactly.
Speaker 5: And do you.
Speaker 2: Think though that's probably why it's like a longer to
Speaker 2: come to you. Do you think it was hard for
Speaker 2: him to face you?
Speaker 5: No, because then I got my apology from him.
Speaker 4: It was the fakest thing, apologizing I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5: And she was like I kept saying to the long
Speaker 5: early with the boys, little gat and I kept saying
Speaker 5: to him, you know it's he basically made out what
Speaker 5: he apologized to get on his line to side and apologize,
Speaker 5: because it's.
Speaker 4: Apologize to me. I heard him say to someone because
Speaker 4: I was just like, do you know what? Because the
Speaker 4: mood in the house and the party was weird because
Speaker 4: I was very down. I'm very happy person and literally
Speaker 4: I went so into my shell even and production were
Speaker 4: like you're not your And then to make him feel
Speaker 4: better and the house feel better, I just like I
Speaker 4: was like, I forgive you because and I heard him
Speaker 4: go to someone, Oh, I feel so much better now,
Speaker 4: and I was just like, wow, I don't have.
Speaker 2: He apologized to you outside of the show.
Speaker 5: I put it. I put it out on Twitter.
Speaker 4: I contacted him first, being like, why do you hate me?
Speaker 5: Why do you hate me?
Speaker 4: And then we did have and then he like was like,
Speaker 4: you didn't even apologize.
Speaker 5: That was the biggest thing. He goes.
Speaker 4: It was Jaye and Michelle who made me act in
Speaker 4: this way. They manipulated me against it. He all and
Speaker 4: Ja and Michelle and took no accountability. I was like, wow,
Speaker 4: this is and this is why I'm like, he might
Speaker 4: stay in the podcast. I want to have a chat
Speaker 4: with big T this and this for me, for me
Speaker 4: once shame on me.
Speaker 5: Right right, I can't do it.
Speaker 1: Three Yes, then you're ready? No, you were? You are
Speaker 1: well with Wow, you're right.
Speaker 2: Well listen, we have to take a quick break, but
Speaker 2: we'll be right back after this. Here we go.
Speaker 3: What are you all thoughts about the Mariah and Banana's situation?
Speaker 1: Oh they both fell off the bed. What is that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm interested to hear your perspective, specifically Melissa.
Speaker 5: Yeah, talk to Melissa. It's hard, you know, because but
Speaker 5: so my first season I did wait, he spoke about
Speaker 5: this in our podcast, you know, just when you started
Speaker 5: the season, and the rookies and the better completely separate
Speaker 5: categories and the vestic cookies the best. My first season,
Speaker 5: the rookies hated me and the best like me mm
Speaker 5: hm because the drama. I was pausing. I don't know
Speaker 5: what it was, but anyway, that's what I cliped with bananas.
Speaker 5: We became a really good friend my first season ideas
Speaker 5: I got back at got brought back as a mercenary
Speaker 5: for the final, which was like a special thing, and
Speaker 5: came back with bananas, and you know, it's a big
Speaker 5: privilege to do that. So me Bana's connected and we
Speaker 5: became close, and so throughout that time, even on it
Speaker 5: has become closer. We have been friends and stuff. And
Speaker 5: then when obviously we went on the show, we got
Speaker 5: to know Mariah. Now, Mariah was one of the only people,
Speaker 5: if not the only person friends we became friends with.
Speaker 5: I do like Mariah a lot, and I really do
Speaker 5: like so when she was telling us it's not that
Speaker 5: serious and stuff, It's like, Okay, it wasn't our place
Speaker 5: to comment. But I don't want to see Johnny guy
Speaker 5: because he is my friend ultimately and I've known him
Speaker 5: for longer, and Johnny someone I could just FaceTime Johnny
Speaker 5: out and be like and talk to. So I don't
Speaker 5: I have been wits about me, but we went like friends.
Speaker 5: Is in like if a big ta's boyfriendly cheating I
Speaker 5: don't know or something.
Speaker 3: But do you feel like Mariah was cheating on Banana? Like,
Speaker 3: what are you guys the energy in the house, because
Speaker 3: it seems like she's trying to play two different sides.
Speaker 3: People on Twitter are trying to put together a bit
Speaker 3: of a timeline, especially because he was doing another show.
Speaker 3: But do you feel like she was actually playing to
Speaker 3: you guys? What do you feel like you know that
Speaker 3: wasn't a thing? And also, what do you think about
Speaker 3: Tory calling out Mariah like that? Right when we see
Speaker 3: the elimination come and it's it's Tori and she.
Speaker 1: Calls out Mariah. What were your thoughts there?
Speaker 4: I think that's completely valid for Tory, And I think
Speaker 4: that's absolutely right because Bananas is her friend and she's
Speaker 4: been here and outside because Bananas being like, my God
Speaker 4: is cheating on me. So but Tori to do that,
Speaker 4: I think it's absolutely fabulous. And if I was, if
Speaker 4: I was in a Bananas situation, and I would want
Speaker 4: a friend to do that to me. However, it comes
Speaker 4: to the semantics and the timeline of things when you
Speaker 4: look at.
Speaker 5: It now, so that I would say at the time,
Speaker 5: looking back, it was like, Okay, this is the situation
Speaker 5: ship between Mariah and Johnny was more serious than Mariah
Speaker 5: made out. Both looking at the season that Johnny she's
Speaker 5: doing in the time, what was he doing the same?
Speaker 5: So after I.
Speaker 4: Leave the season, obviously I leave a Casey. I tell
Speaker 4: Casey everything that's going on in the house. Casey might
Speaker 4: tell somebody who I don't get to travel whatever, because
Speaker 4: they're a good friend of mine, and they tell Johnny
Speaker 4: because there was a song going around the house saying
Speaker 4: bananas and all this stuff.
Speaker 5: So then I.
Speaker 1: Started the song. So now now what is the lyrics?
Speaker 1: Like who who started that?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Who made it into a song?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 5: J Okay?
Speaker 4: So then I get this call from Bananas and I
Speaker 4: think he's just calling me just to be like, hey,
Speaker 4: how is the season.
Speaker 5: He's t what's going on with Mariah? I was like,
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 4: Absolutely terrified, and I lied. I was like, I didn't
Speaker 4: know what's going on. But then this person, obviously he
Speaker 4: knows every story I've told. He goes, so Mariah isn't
Speaker 4: kissing some guy in a pool and sleeping in bed
Speaker 4: with him. I was just like, oh, and there isn't
Speaker 4: a song about me.
Speaker 5: This petty sing a song to me? He said that
Speaker 5: to me.
Speaker 1: I like totally. So did you sing it and sing
Speaker 1: a song? Okay, sing this song? What is the songs?
Speaker 5: Because that's a song. That's a song, you know, Johnny,
Speaker 5: that's a song. I was like that, I've been eliminated.
Speaker 4: I've been back in the UK for like four hours.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to like relax and get a thing called
Speaker 4: like that. It's like I'm still in the drama.
Speaker 2: Do you think this situation and I don't because I
Speaker 2: don't think that, No Shade, I don't, But I don't
Speaker 2: think Mariah holds that much weight. No Shade, Again, I
Speaker 2: don't think she holds them much weight. But do you
Speaker 2: think this situation may be tarnishing his name in any way?
Speaker 5: No, No, I don't think so.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's probably hair more than his yea,
Speaker 4: his name anyway, because you know, some people might look
Speaker 4: at it and say, well, she's playing the player.
Speaker 2: She played the player air quotes.
Speaker 4: I don't know she's playing the player because from what
Speaker 4: I have, she was very much in the relationship with her.
Speaker 5: She may sound like it wasn't serious so that we
Speaker 5: became more friendly with her. Like I like Mariah. I'm
Speaker 5: not going to say was not going to dis that
Speaker 5: I like her. I think he's a nice person. She
Speaker 5: said it wasn't that serious. We came out. It turns
Speaker 5: out it was more serious, which isn't great. I'm still
Speaker 5: on both sides. I still speak to both of them.
Speaker 5: It's not our business to get into it's their relationship.
Speaker 5: And I love both of them. But if I had
Speaker 5: to choose, but honest is my guy.
Speaker 2: Every single person was saying that she's willing to throw
Speaker 2: her game away for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people acknowledging she isolated herself so far.
Speaker 5: I didn't believe that. I believe with Mariah she likes
Speaker 5: people for who they are. She went, she went in
Speaker 5: with the lions, and she liked me a big tea
Speaker 5: as well. And even the fact that she became close
Speaker 5: to us. Hair Alliance didn't like the fact she became
Speaker 5: close to old. So I don't think if she's strogling
Speaker 5: game away for him. I think she's a genuine Pierson.
Speaker 5: I don't want to continue to be fake with Hair Alliance.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, And whether she.
Speaker 5: Was like close to but she's like close to Bananas
Speaker 5: or what like, She's obviously gone in there. She's like
Speaker 5: James and she's followed her heart. Yeah, and that's another thing,
Speaker 5: actually follows her heart.
Speaker 4: Because this is why, like some people might be like,
Speaker 4: why am Melissa and Big Tea putting off so much
Speaker 4: on social media? We have to explain, like we were
Speaker 4: isolated so much in the game to the point where like, okay,
Speaker 4: now we're on the subject from Mario and our podcast
Speaker 4: wouldn't say.
Speaker 5: It was, but here we are now, yeah, glasses of point.
Speaker 4: And she came to us and she was like, t
Speaker 4: I feel comfortable hanging out with you so much because
Speaker 4: my alliance are not happy with me because they're not
Speaker 4: trusting me as much.
Speaker 5: Because I'm hanging out with you and I want to
Speaker 5: be your friend.
Speaker 4: I want to be close to you, but my lines
Speaker 4: are basically telling me off for that.
Speaker 5: I was like, what.
Speaker 1: That's hair?
Speaker 5: Don't start like communicating people.
Speaker 4: This is not like century where yeah, yeah, I don't
Speaker 4: have let or something human.
Speaker 5: I need to have human interaction. I need to tell
Speaker 5: about the situation. Yeah, well we would. There was two
Speaker 5: benches when in dinner, like two like fifth, like twenty,
Speaker 5: I mean it on one, and then when everyone else
Speaker 5: is going for dinner, everybody else would squeeze something sweeze.
Speaker 4: As in like p have like one body on the
Speaker 4: stool and then me and Milliss would be like one.
Speaker 5: Results didn't sit with us.
Speaker 4: I felt like I was in mean God, like I
Speaker 4: had like my little dinner train, Like what can I say,
Speaker 4: I go to my room.
Speaker 3: Does sound a little It does sound a little mob,
Speaker 3: which is is just not cool.
Speaker 1: At all, like at all. Let's talk about before we go.
Speaker 3: We want to talk about the elimination and what it
Speaker 3: was like competing against the legend that is Tory. What
Speaker 3: were your thoughts when you saw it was going to
Speaker 3: be her and what was it like going against her?
Speaker 5: So you know what I feel like the fact that
Speaker 5: I was going against Tory got in my head a
Speaker 5: lot more than it and that was one of the
Speaker 5: reasons why I didn't do it as well as I
Speaker 5: feel I could have. And because toy is like a legend.
Speaker 5: And finally when you were not that I don't know
Speaker 5: what it is it and one of you you've got child,
Speaker 5: haven't you. Yeah, I'm scared of more things. Yeah, Like
Speaker 5: I know now if I die it matters somebody.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So we had challenges where we had to swim on
Speaker 5: the waters with the life fest or not that and
Speaker 5: pull ourselves down on rope and when you felt like
Speaker 5: you couldn't breathe. I will panic when we go hidebo water,
Speaker 5: I will panic because I think if.
Speaker 2: I die's gonna take care of my baby exactly.
Speaker 5: So, like you know, like this elimination was just like
Speaker 5: a big tank of water and swimming and doing a
Speaker 5: puzzle and stuff going on under water to face face
Speaker 5: and just panicking the thought of being on I don't
Speaker 5: know what it was, but this is the challenge in general.
Speaker 5: I was more scared of things than I usually am.
Speaker 5: And it was when I look back and I think back,
Speaker 5: I'm so pissed with myself because I'm like, I know
Speaker 5: I could have done better, and I just feel like
Speaker 5: I got in my head. The fact it was Torri,
Speaker 5: the fact she's been the challenge for so long, she's
Speaker 5: done so well. The fact that I know I'm like
Speaker 5: the challenges we've done and I've gone to dive into water,
Speaker 5: I've gotten scared and I've panicked, and I've gotten I
Speaker 5: get cashovobia. It's so bad now for some reason, like
Speaker 5: everything I've been more scared of. Yeah, So I feel
Speaker 5: like I got in my head so much that I
Speaker 5: just panicked, and looking back, I feel like it was
Speaker 5: such a simple elimination. I could have done better, and
Speaker 5: it's completely mental. And I do feel like the challenges
Speaker 5: and the eliminations of mind. I've had sleepless nights and everything.
Speaker 5: I'm like, he could have done so much better. But
Speaker 5: then I also thinking, well, even if I did do
Speaker 5: better than I would, I probably would have been put
Speaker 5: in anyway. It's when that day I cried because I
Speaker 5: was like, I've left my dogs and now for like
Speaker 5: months of the time, and I've like.
Speaker 1: This, You're doing the best thing and you could do,
Speaker 1: and you are looking fighting for.
Speaker 3: Her, and she's gonna look back on this one day
Speaker 3: and be proud of the strong woman that you are.
Speaker 1: Let me the girl.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you from experience mom to mom. Leaving
Speaker 2: my daughter and I've done what almost six or seven
Speaker 2: shows right, Leaving my daughter for long periods of time
Speaker 2: is the hardest thing I ever have to do. But
Speaker 2: while I'm there, I have to constantly tell myself I'm
Speaker 2: here for her, I'm not here for me. I don't
Speaker 2: want to be on TV. TV is whack, like all
Speaker 2: the things that come from being on TV sucks. I'm
Speaker 2: not here for television. I'm here for my kids. But
Speaker 2: when my baby watches me on TV, and sometimes I'll
Speaker 2: hear her when I'm picking her off from school, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: my mom's on TV. My mom, those are the moments
Speaker 2: that I live for. Those are the moments that make
Speaker 2: me excited. So just always remember at the end of
Speaker 2: the day when she looks, Mommy's on the TV. Fast
Speaker 2: forward past the kicking and stuff, but Mommy's on the TV.
Speaker 2: Those moments are gonna make you feel so good because
Speaker 2: it's for her and you are a single parent. So
Speaker 2: don't ever mom guilt is real, and I think a
Speaker 2: lot of people don't understand that mom guilt is real.
Speaker 2: And so when you have to leave her and you
Speaker 2: have to do these things, don't ever make anybody make
Speaker 2: you feel bad for doing what you have to do
Speaker 2: for your child, Because who gonna.
Speaker 1: Send you a check?
Speaker 2: The tell a person that got something to say, send
Speaker 2: me some money.
Speaker 5: Do you know how much I've been told for leaving
Speaker 5: my dogs? They're like, oh, your absence parents, that was
Speaker 5: the one doing that. But I see.
Speaker 2: Tea can leave and Tony can leave, and the dads
Speaker 2: can leave and do the show and nobody work and.
Speaker 5: Who's prett your baby, but amongos, it's just.
Speaker 2: Go, you do what you have to do for your baby.
Speaker 4: I just say, like, my favorite thing obviously related this
Speaker 4: my favorite thing is basically kind of half.
Speaker 5: Lived, minister.
Speaker 4: We watched the episodes of Vienna and Melissa's baby. That's mommy, tea,
Speaker 4: that's mommy, every scene everything, and when we picked Biana
Speaker 4: prominent and she goes to her all of her teacher,
Speaker 4: she goes, that's santy tea, that's anti take, and she
Speaker 4: doesn't speak.
Speaker 1: Tea.
Speaker 5: Vienna leaves me out, won't speaks to me, and listen
Speaker 5: to the hair. They get back together, they sleep together.
Speaker 5: It's I love it. I love it. It's the best
Speaker 5: braid hair. I get her for my sleep. I get
Speaker 5: cakes in the I get a shower. Both like Na,
Speaker 5: she's thinking about ten hours a week, so she's like
Speaker 5: she told her to snatch a wig, which, oh that's hilarious, honest,
Speaker 5: and obviously she's like this little tiny, like two foot
Speaker 5: even trun with this massively so happy.
Speaker 2: Oh that makes me so happy. We have final questions
Speaker 2: and then we are going to let you ladies get
Speaker 2: back to your Ladies Weekend. Okay, who do you each
Speaker 2: want to win?
Speaker 1: Top three?
Speaker 5: Do you know what I had it? Okay, let me
Speaker 5: think of the cars. Who's leftover?
Speaker 4: James because I think he's a good heart. I think
Speaker 4: he's a good person for the guys and for the girls. Mariah,
Speaker 4: good heart, good person.
Speaker 2: So James and Mariah?
Speaker 5: What about you?
Speaker 2: Melissa?
Speaker 5: No one, nobody?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Then do you want to see eliminated next?
Speaker 3: Let's go to up three people you want to see
Speaker 3: eliminated next?
Speaker 5: Saf Zara, Zara left and everybody honestly like James to
Speaker 5: win eliminated. I'd like to see Raven.
Speaker 4: Jay Jay because he's playing everybody like James Jay's game.
Speaker 5: I have Jay in the hotel, he said, we were
Speaker 5: walking with him and then man, we've got filming. He
Speaker 5: forgot that. So no, Jay, I want you to go.
Speaker 1: And for those who want to stay in wait, what
Speaker 1: about Corey?
Speaker 5: Want you guys? I even forgot it existed them.
Speaker 3: Oh the pettiness for those who want to follow you
Speaker 3: guys for all the fun stuff on social and some
Speaker 3: of the petty where can they find you?
Speaker 1: Let's start with you, Melissa.
Speaker 5: Okay, so all my handles are at dage Email reaps,
Speaker 5: and we also have our podcast which is at Fresh
Speaker 5: Cushion Pad, Fresh.
Speaker 1: And Big T where they find you me.
Speaker 5: Don't follow me on percent because I'm a toxic mess on.
Speaker 2: That right now.
Speaker 4: Stay my Instagram ram positive given myself to stay to
Speaker 4: Big T pas on Instagram, and I badly post on
Speaker 4: TikTok even though both of you haven't come my TikTok lines.
Speaker 5: Since last time I confronted you about this.
Speaker 2: Let me let me, let me get into the TikTok.
Speaker 1: What about your TikTok I.
Speaker 5: Last podcast together, I told you you need to call
Speaker 5: a line.
Speaker 1: Can but Melissa just said she's never even seen them.
Speaker 5: Now how I love doing TikTok lives.
Speaker 3: Advertise it more, right, Big T, or just hit us
Speaker 3: up and then we'll come on. It doesn't count if
Speaker 3: they're in your head, Big T. They've got to actually
Speaker 3: be out. We've got to know about them.
Speaker 2: We have you guys are so before we leave, sorry,
Speaker 2: I know we wrap it up, but before we leave,
Speaker 2: I do want to congratulate you for coming out and
Speaker 2: being absolutely amaz and having that whole moment like, oh
Speaker 2: my goodness, Bigsie, like we celebrate you so much. And
Speaker 2: I don't know if you listen to the podcast or not,
Speaker 2: but we celebrate you so much and we're so proud
Speaker 2: of you for doing that publicly, and we are so so,
Speaker 2: so so proud of you, and I want to say
Speaker 2: that befobably let you, ladies go appreciate that.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: It means the world to me, like your whole point,
Speaker 4: as well as to give somebody in our community, because
Speaker 4: it can be very hard as it was for me
Speaker 4: to have the bravery to come out and honestly, my
Speaker 4: family did find out at the same time, and what
Speaker 4: was the reaction was so shocked.
Speaker 5: Love love, love, love love.
Speaker 1: Oh great, that's great to hear.
Speaker 5: I was not expecting that. That makes me so happy,
Speaker 5: but so far, so good. That's good.
Speaker 3: Always supporting you and so appreciative of you guys. Spending
Speaker 3: girls night with us today.
Speaker 5: Such a pleasure falling to both of you guys.
Speaker 2: Likewise, bye, lady bie guys. That was such a great interview.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, we have the girls out with the
Speaker 2: t Okay. Yes, I'm so excited that they came and
Speaker 2: decided to hang out with us for this episode. Devin
Speaker 2: tell the people where they can find you on the
Speaker 2: social of the media.
Speaker 3: Well, you guys can find me on my website. That's
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Speaker 3: Scroll to the bottom and you will see my social
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Speaker 3: can just find me on like Instagram. It's Devin with
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Speaker 3: my storefront. Click follow and then say hi, I had
Speaker 3: anger yesterday, say hi and the chat and gave them
Speaker 3: a shout out, so that could be you too.
Speaker 1: Now day where can they find you?
Speaker 2: You can find me in these Twitter streets at day
Speaker 2: Davion Underscore or on the land of Instagram. You can
Speaker 2: find me at Davon Diane Underscore, slowly creeping my way
Speaker 2: back into these YouTube playgrounds.
Speaker 1: I knew she was gonna say, you already knew. I
Speaker 1: knew it was coming. And you can find me there.
Speaker 2: As a vine Dyanne and yeah on the TikTok maybe
Speaker 2: tiktoking on the TikTok at Day die In. But most importantly,
Speaker 2: you can find me here on this podcast with my girl.
Speaker 3: Right oh right, And thank you all of course for
Speaker 3: joining us for another episode of MTV's official Challenge Podcast.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Big T for bringing the tea