Speaker 1: Edge Martinez in Real Life podcast. I mean it's a
Speaker 1: leader kid.
Speaker 2: What is this space?
Speaker 1: Welcome to my space today, Welcome to the podcast. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you my Little I r L Podcast. I love it.
Speaker 2: I love talking to you. I love your energy everything,
Speaker 2: your energy, that's the that's something that's so special. So yes,
Speaker 2: I do love it and congratulate.
Speaker 1: Thank you, baby, congratulations to you. First of all, we're
Speaker 1: gonna start with you. I am excited about my podcast.
Speaker 1: But first and foremost, last night, m I wish there
Speaker 1: was somebody in the room who could just testify to
Speaker 1: what I saw last night, Which is your new Well?
Speaker 1: What are you the executive producer play? What is it?
Speaker 2: What is the First of all, it's a musical.
Speaker 1: That's a musical.
Speaker 2: I would be the lead producer for the musical that
Speaker 2: also be the composer, and I'd also be the conceptualizer
Speaker 2: of this and subject correct it is it is? It
Speaker 2: is loosely based on my experiences growing up in New York.
Speaker 1: The whole thing is so good. I can't I want
Speaker 1: to talk about it more and more like specific, but
Speaker 1: it took me immediately to little Baby, Young Alicia. A
Speaker 1: diary is on twenty years on twenty year anniversary. My
Speaker 1: son is twenty. This is nuts. So it's like, Diary
Speaker 1: is in college right now, Diary is going to college.
Speaker 1: Oh it's been in college thirty year in college. Diary
Speaker 1: is graduating college next year. Whoa I know? Are you
Speaker 1: like a whole different person from them?
Speaker 2: Definitely, I'm a new person, of course. Of course I've
Speaker 2: grown so much. I know so much. I was for
Speaker 2: sure a baby. I was so I was definitely entering
Speaker 2: my beginnings of my womanhood. But I was still so insecure,
Speaker 2: so vulnerable were you?
Speaker 1: You never gave that.
Speaker 2: You always showed up like that was my trick. Yeah
Speaker 2: that was wasn't it yours?
Speaker 1: It still is what I mean, I still show up
Speaker 1: when I mean, I am more centered and I do
Speaker 1: have more sense of purpose. So that gives you confidence,
Speaker 1: and that gives you you know, and so I can
Speaker 1: block out noise better. But I still have moments of like,
Speaker 1: you know, totally thousand, you got to still show We
Speaker 1: know how to show up, but we need to show up.
Speaker 1: We still have moments. Yes, you all the way got
Speaker 1: it together.
Speaker 2: No, nobody all the way has it together. And every
Speaker 2: day is different, you know what I mean? But I
Speaker 2: definitely have it together more than I had it together. Yes,
Speaker 2: so thank god, please we need to grow somehow.
Speaker 1: What do you think the biggest difference is, though?
Speaker 2: What do you think the biggest difference is that at
Speaker 2: that time, I really felt like I had to be
Speaker 2: validated by people. I felt like I had to be accepted,
Speaker 2: you know, people had to agree with me or I
Speaker 2: had to people had to accept what I thought for
Speaker 2: it to be good. And now I don't, you know, you.
Speaker 1: Look for opinions from everybody.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, I was the union seekert.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 2: Do you like it? Do you like it? Do you
Speaker 2: like it? Do you like it? Do you like it?
Speaker 2: Do you like it? And if they didn't, if enough
Speaker 2: people liked it, I liked it. If enough people didn't
Speaker 2: like it, I also didn't like it, you know. And
Speaker 2: it's like at some point you got to like, think
Speaker 2: what you think and feel how you feel, and you
Speaker 2: got to stand behind it and stand for it. And
Speaker 2: you know, so that's well, that's what I think is
Speaker 2: the biggest difference for me now.
Speaker 1: Was there's ever some amazing song that everybody didn't like
Speaker 1: and you knew it was great and you never put
Speaker 1: it out and left us in the it's still sitting
Speaker 1: in a vault somewhere.
Speaker 2: I would no, I don't know. I mean maybe, but
Speaker 2: people did feel that way about falling, believe it or not.
Speaker 2: What do you mean people didn't understand falling at first?
Speaker 2: These people which people I'm just saying, where I'm telling.
Speaker 1: These people, these people, where are they? Can we call
Speaker 1: them now? Put them on the screen and see, didn't
Speaker 1: you like label people are like friends or what?
Speaker 2: I think that. I think probably I would if I
Speaker 2: would bring it back to it, I would definitely say
Speaker 2: it was more on the label side or on the
Speaker 2: business side. You know, it was a it was a
Speaker 2: risk if you think, if you think about it, falling
Speaker 2: was actually a risk. It didn't fit into the style
Speaker 2: of music that was happening at the time, and it
Speaker 2: was it was different. I mean most of my music
Speaker 2: is always different. With Diary Realisia Keys, it was you
Speaker 2: don't know my name. That was a risk. You don't
Speaker 2: know my name wasn't like the sound at the time.
Speaker 1: It was was the sound at the time. I don't
Speaker 1: remember the like a I don't know, I don't even.
Speaker 2: Know what was that. But the point is is you know,
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of times, you know, people
Speaker 2: like to do and encourage you to do what's already
Speaker 2: been done. M It's like rare that people will tell you, hey,
Speaker 2: take a take a chance, try something new, try something different.
Speaker 2: It's very rare that people get behind that mentality. But
Speaker 2: but I'm glad that I was never you know, I
Speaker 2: always went with what felt good in my heart, and
Speaker 2: that's always been my guiding.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, thank god. Some opinions are everywhere.
Speaker 2: Wow, especially now I'm more than ever. I don't even
Speaker 2: know how kids function today.
Speaker 1: I wondered that for you, cause you still are very
Speaker 1: active and you very like even in socials and stuff,
Speaker 1: you engage. You share, right, share a lot. Yes, your
Speaker 1: family is Swiss. Swiss is always sharing something.
Speaker 2: The sharer of all sharers.
Speaker 1: I feel like he probably pushes you to share more
Speaker 1: than you would have had you, guys not been a couple.
Speaker 2: I think he's he's actually really good at it, you know.
Speaker 2: I think that the way that he does it and
Speaker 2: the way that he shares is so genuine, and he
Speaker 2: shares like what feels right, and it really does feel right,
Speaker 2: and it feels unique and it feels like special. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so he's really good at it. Yeah. I hit him
Speaker 2: a lot, like, d what do you think about this?
Speaker 2: He'd like, nah, not that. I was like, Okay, he
Speaker 2: was there last night at the Hell's Kitchen.
Speaker 1: He was so proud of you, and Genesis was there.
Speaker 1: He loves the git, just the musical.
Speaker 2: This was the first time Genesis saw the show, and
Speaker 2: you know, he's so upset that I have to go,
Speaker 2: and you know it's in New York and to make
Speaker 2: to travel and to always be there to make sure
Speaker 2: it's perfect. And so one day he was like, you
Speaker 2: don't even want to spend time with your kids. All
Speaker 2: you want to do is go to your stupid play.
Speaker 2: And I was like, hey, that's not nice, man. I
Speaker 2: don't call any of your things stupid. And so he
Speaker 2: was like, well, that's all you want to do, And
Speaker 2: I said, I know that you just miss me. I
Speaker 2: know that's what that means. You want me to stay
Speaker 2: and I want to stay too, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But I'm really proud of what I'm working on and
Speaker 2: you'll see, you'll see how much you're gonna like it.
Speaker 2: So when he came yesterday, it was the first time
Speaker 2: that he saw it after feeling, you know that the
Speaker 2: normal feelings that a kid feels when you have to
Speaker 2: let your parents go. You know, it's hard. And when
Speaker 2: he was there and just rivet in and just looking
Speaker 2: at every question, mam, when's the mother coming back? Ma,
Speaker 2: when's the He had thousands of questions. Swiss was like,
Speaker 2: if he don't be quiet, came to him to be
Speaker 2: quiet because he's loud.
Speaker 1: He's so in to you though, like I saw a
Speaker 1: little video of him protecting you at the concert, your security.
Speaker 1: And then there was another one. Well, he didn't want
Speaker 1: you to show too much boob, and that's pretty good
Speaker 1: that Your favorite was, I do this? Mom?
Speaker 2: What's what's wrong? The heart? It's cool? So everybody can
Speaker 2: see your boots? Can't your heart? I've never seen somebody
Speaker 2: do that. Well, you're only eight. The worst is gonna
Speaker 2: be a tiss.
Speaker 1: Okay, how about we do this? How well we do this?
Speaker 2: You do the time? It's boos everyone has.
Speaker 1: Pretty so much because I'm pasty and You're like, it's
Speaker 1: just a boob.
Speaker 2: I was like, it's okay. He's like, ma, are we.
Speaker 1: Really gonna do this?
Speaker 2: Mom? Are we doing this?
Speaker 1: What is that? Who is that? That's what who is history.
Speaker 2: He's not protecting. Dad always says you protect the mom, right.
Speaker 2: He takes it serious clearly.
Speaker 1: So cute.
Speaker 2: It's such a cute kid.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you're like a great mom. So how
Speaker 1: is that like we should talk about the parenting? Part
Speaker 1: of that is that I know we've talked since you've
Speaker 1: been a mom, but now you're like a seasoned mom.
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, you have two ever a
Speaker 2: you know, I think are you ever a seasoned mom?
Speaker 2: You definitely have more experience, for sure, But I feel
Speaker 2: like it's constantly a conundrum, don't you. It's like constantly
Speaker 2: something that you're bumping up against, something you haven't quite
Speaker 2: been with before. And even if I've been through it
Speaker 2: with Egypt, I haven't like Genesis way of expressing. It's
Speaker 2: so different. And even all the kids, like I've always
Speaker 2: felt blessed because together we have five kids, and so
Speaker 2: I have like older kids that I've experienced what it's
Speaker 2: gonna be like, Okay, this is how sixteen's gonna be
Speaker 2: or this is what thirteen is gonna be like Now
Speaker 2: Egypt's thirteen, and it's a little different. So I don't
Speaker 2: know if you're ever a seasoned, but I do feel
Speaker 2: a lot more. I just feel a lot more like
Speaker 2: aware of how I want to talk with them and
Speaker 2: express with them and things like that.
Speaker 1: No, and then also, they're not the same person who
Speaker 1: they are two years from now. So you think you
Speaker 1: got them down, you know how to manage them, and
Speaker 1: then they become somebody else in a couple of years
Speaker 1: and you have to kind of.
Speaker 2: Read learn and then so are you like I'm also
Speaker 2: another person.
Speaker 1: Because mothers are actually pain so human. We are also
Speaker 1: people evolving. This is absolutely true.
Speaker 2: So to kind of put that all together is it's amazing.
Speaker 2: And I mean sometimes there's so much going on and
Speaker 2: I need bed at a certain time and I need
Speaker 2: to make sure the homework is at this time, and
Speaker 2: then we're there. They're sitting there doing something and they're
Speaker 2: cracking up laughing, and I'm like, I need you, And
Speaker 2: I look back on it and I'm like, why didn't
Speaker 2: I just laugh too? Could I just have laughed too?
Speaker 2: And then we'd have just got on with it like
Speaker 2: I made it. They almost took take longer to just
Speaker 2: so it's like, y, yeah, I think you kind of
Speaker 2: look at yourself too, and you realize how you can
Speaker 2: kind of let certain things go or whatever you need
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: Do you let your kids see you vulnerable? Like I
Speaker 1: had this who was it?
Speaker 2: Uh? Oh?
Speaker 1: We had Kelly uh Clarkson on the show and she
Speaker 1: went through a divorce and she was talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: she went through a really hard time and she let
Speaker 1: her kids, she let sh not too much, but just
Speaker 1: enough so that she would explain, mommy sad. And yeah,
Speaker 1: she operates on the some some parents don't. Some parents
Speaker 1: believe in like shielding shielding. Yeah, and there's like a
Speaker 1: fine line, I guess, but are you, like, how are
Speaker 1: you with these seems like you would be leaning towards vulnerable.
Speaker 2: Feel like it's really important to be able to learn
Speaker 2: how to have relationships with your emotions, you know. And
Speaker 2: I think especially as boys, we a lot of times
Speaker 2: we make boys have to be so like teflon and
Speaker 2: and we think that that's what how a man expresses
Speaker 2: or how a boy expresses. And I do think that
Speaker 2: for all of us, cause I think as women as well,
Speaker 2: we also feel like we have to be tough. Alon,
Speaker 2: we gotta put on the armor and no, let's not
Speaker 2: get penetrated. And I think that that develops a unhealthy
Speaker 2: relationship with our emotions. We can't access them. And I
Speaker 2: personally went through that. I experience that way. I just
Speaker 2: could not access my emotions. I did not know how
Speaker 2: to share what I actually felt truly. I knew how
Speaker 2: to share the like version of it, that was the words,
Speaker 2: you know, but I couldn't properly truly express it in
Speaker 2: a way that felt as raw as I felt it
Speaker 2: on the inside. And I thought that that I had
Speaker 2: to learn how to practice to put to words my
Speaker 2: real feelings as opposed to holding the men. And so
Speaker 2: I really feel like getting having a relationship with your
Speaker 2: emotions is important. Yeah, I'm not overly emotional, so you know,
Speaker 2: I think that's just natural balance that I have. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but the other day I did I boohooed in the
Speaker 2: Carbon Genesis. He looked at me like you had to
Speaker 2: see his face. He was like, I'm sorry that I
Speaker 2: didn't do another and I should have been more. And
Speaker 2: I really apologized for and he instantly. And I was
Speaker 2: not doing that for him to feel bad or to
Speaker 2: have to apologize to me, But it just was how
Speaker 2: I felt, and it just was like I was overwhelmed
Speaker 2: at the moment he was like, I never saw you
Speaker 2: cry like that before, man, And next ten days after
Speaker 2: my remer, when you just started crying, like I never
Speaker 2: saw you cry like that before. It and it and
Speaker 2: it touched him, and I think that, you know, that's
Speaker 2: a part of that's a part of just irl my
Speaker 2: real life and it happens.
Speaker 1: What could trigger something like that, is that a bad day?
Speaker 1: Is that some is that I.
Speaker 2: Was personally overwhelmed. Actually for him, I felt like there
Speaker 2: was a lot of things going on that I was
Speaker 2: just needing to come to terms with, like with school
Speaker 2: and some different things, and I just felt like I
Speaker 2: was uncomfortable with where it was circling and I felt
Speaker 2: out of control. I felt like I was not able
Speaker 2: to have a handle on it to the way that
Speaker 2: I wanted to. And to see him feel uncomfortable about
Speaker 2: certain things made me uncomfortable. And when I couldn't kind
Speaker 2: of get it under control, it just like I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't have control of this. Yeah, And it just
Speaker 2: kind of like felt, you know, overwhelming in that way,
Speaker 2: and I just I don't know, it just came out,
Speaker 2: oh you know what I mean, It just came out.
Speaker 1: And he just adores you too. So he was probably like,
Speaker 1: what it's happening.
Speaker 2: He was like, whoa hoo, whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa.
Speaker 2: But and then man, it's crazy how the emotions that
Speaker 2: we feel for them. Wow, like you never know, it's
Speaker 2: super wild.
Speaker 1: I was just talking about that, and I was telling
Speaker 1: you this before. You're not ready for when they have
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 2: Mmm, I'm not ready.
Speaker 1: Have you prepared at all?
Speaker 2: I'm not ready. It's okay, Sorry, I'm not ready. Tell
Speaker 2: me how it goes.
Speaker 1: I'm to tell you how it goes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how does it go?
Speaker 1: I was fully depressed for six months before he left
Speaker 1: for college because I was preparing mentally, preparing myself to
Speaker 1: be like I just was so sad, you know, it
Speaker 1: was just him and I for a while. Then I
Speaker 1: my bonus baby came in and we have I have
Speaker 1: two there, but the idea of like my first born,
Speaker 1: my baby, like leaving was traumatic for me. So for
Speaker 1: six months I was super depressed before he left. And
Speaker 1: then I was telling my girlfriend. I think it was
Speaker 1: you know, Shaka pill Girl. I was telling Shaka I
Speaker 1: was like, oh god, he's I got to take him
Speaker 1: to school. I'm going to be a mess. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: cry when I drop him off. She was like, no,
Speaker 1: you're not. I was like, what do you mean, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not, Yes, i am. I'm very emotional about this.
Speaker 1: She was like, imagine how for him, like going into
Speaker 1: a new space, new school, all this about how challenging
Speaker 1: that is for him. Why do you want to make
Speaker 1: that more dramatic? And I was like, oh, you're right.
Speaker 1: He was not a good friend. And so then I
Speaker 1: just kind of held myself together. I went there, we
Speaker 1: set him up, we set the room, and I left
Speaker 1: and I realized though, so after that, I realized, they
Speaker 1: don't leave you. They're still there.
Speaker 2: All the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he's still.
Speaker 2: Asking you for a thousand things all the time.
Speaker 1: It's cool, it's fine, No, they don't. There's still your children.
Speaker 1: But so maybe you won't be sad for six months,
Speaker 1: maybe yours will be three months now, two months, knowing
Speaker 1: that it'll be okay. On the other side, I.
Speaker 2: Do know it'll be okay. But it's a big change. Man.
Speaker 2: It's like you literally hold them. They can't do anything
Speaker 2: without you. You have to. You plan your entire existence,
Speaker 2: every move you make around them being good. And then
Speaker 2: they don't need you, and it's kind of kind of crazy,
Speaker 2: it's kind of fucked, it's kind of crazy. But they
Speaker 2: do need you know.
Speaker 1: They always do know, they always do it, and I.
Speaker 2: Think whatever, they need to call you and make sure
Speaker 2: you know and just like, yeah, the mama, there's only
Speaker 2: one mama.
Speaker 1: People don't talking up about too, Like the partner you
Speaker 1: choose and how you parent together. Did you have any
Speaker 1: challenges with that or are you just kind of in
Speaker 1: line with that or how do you guys manage that?
Speaker 2: I feel like we do really well. We're really we're
Speaker 2: really in a beautiful sink just naturally, like our flow
Speaker 2: has a good sink. And I think that on the
Speaker 2: parenting side, he's really good at you know, he definitely
Speaker 2: knows when it's time to step in because he's like, mm,
Speaker 2: you know what, they need some dad energy. Sometimes you
Speaker 2: need dad energy. Yes, But he's really good at, like
Speaker 2: at being we are really good at being kind of
Speaker 2: a a good flow, like what's gonna work best for
Speaker 2: this particular inner, this child, cause each one's so different,
Speaker 2: so you can't just like do the same thing all
Speaker 2: the time for sure. So I think we're good at
Speaker 2: kind of that flow. And I think he's he knows
Speaker 2: that I have great instincts there too, and so he's like, well,
Speaker 2: what do you what do you think? And if I
Speaker 2: say listen, I re I know your your normal instinct
Speaker 2: would be this, the less approach like this, yeah, and
Speaker 2: he'll be open for it.
Speaker 1: Do you ever bump pets? Do you ever disagree I'm parenting?
Speaker 1: And how do you manage that?
Speaker 2: Everybody does?
Speaker 1: So you can't tell me you don't we we?
Speaker 2: I was trying to think of, like, how ah ah
Speaker 2: a time? Yeah, I think we definitely. I think it's
Speaker 2: more about communicating about our own needs, cause I think
Speaker 2: sometimes you spend so much time making sure the kids
Speaker 2: needs are met that you do have to make sure
Speaker 2: that the relationship between the kids and the parents don't
Speaker 2: eliminate the parents' needs, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 2: so I think in those ways are the ways that
Speaker 2: we're communicative. And it's like, I'm noticing this pattern and
Speaker 2: it's starting to feel uncomfortable. Mm, what should we what
Speaker 2: should we do?
Speaker 1: How did you learn to do that? You grew up
Speaker 1: in it w with just your mom? Yeah, so who
Speaker 1: taught you that?
Speaker 2: Right? What did your therapy? I honestly haven't really. Uh
Speaker 2: I did like a life coach thing that was helpful, helpful.
Speaker 1: Okay, what's the biggest yes, whatever, It's.
Speaker 2: Like I might be a life I feel like I
Speaker 2: could be a life function in some way. But but yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I think that I think that. Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think maybe just just recognizing how when you can
Speaker 2: express Again, I think it comes back to me not
Speaker 2: having a great connection with my own emotions. And so
Speaker 2: when I started to realize how toxic that could be.
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: Exactly? Like what is it?
Speaker 2: So what I was saying was thank you. Remember I
Speaker 2: was talking before, and I was saying like I was
Speaker 2: such a pleaser that I was disconnected to how I
Speaker 2: actually felt. And so I would be so like, well,
Speaker 2: what do they like? What do they think? Is this
Speaker 2: good for you know, whatever choice I'm making in my career.
Speaker 2: Oh they approve of that.
Speaker 1: Oh they like.
Speaker 2: The thing I did, the thing I wore, the thing
Speaker 2: I said, or whatever. And I would be so outwardly
Speaker 2: that I noticed that that became toxic because I didn't
Speaker 2: have a relationship with myself to be able to say, no,
Speaker 2: here's what I feel, here's what I actually feel. Just
Speaker 2: this is what I feel. I don't know. You might
Speaker 2: hate what I feel, but I feel this and to
Speaker 2: actually be able to verbalize and say that wasn't so
Speaker 2: easy for me. So I started to practice that more.
Speaker 2: And because of that practice, that's what starts to make
Speaker 2: I think Swiss and I even more able to communicate
Speaker 2: better because I was able to say, no, this is
Speaker 2: how I feel, and I know it's important. If I
Speaker 2: don't tell you how I feel, and if you don't
Speaker 2: tell me how you feel, that's when it doesn't It
Speaker 2: just goes wrong. So that part, I think God has
Speaker 2: to be able to communicate.
Speaker 1: That's dope because a lot of people do that. I
Speaker 1: think that's a pretty common thing to do, is like
Speaker 1: bury how you feel and have confidence in it and
Speaker 1: also feeling like you trust somebody to give them all
Speaker 1: of that. But what is the practice of that? How
Speaker 1: do you snap out of that?
Speaker 2: For me? I think the practice because this is what
Speaker 2: I think. For me, that's what happened. I don't know
Speaker 2: it happens. I don't know how it goes for you,
Speaker 2: but like I might find myself in a conversation. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and everyone's different. Some people react right away, some people
Speaker 2: need to digest things. You know, everybody's different, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I find myself whatever the case, I find myself in
Speaker 2: a conversation, someone says something to me and my stomach goes.
Speaker 1: M oh, I don't like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and something I'm like, ooh, whatever the way they
Speaker 2: said that like that? That didn't feel right for me?
Speaker 2: What did that mean? But why would they have said
Speaker 2: it like that? Why did it feel like they referenced
Speaker 2: back something old that we already said, but it came
Speaker 2: back whatever it might be now in that moment, maybe
Speaker 2: I don't bring it up. Maybe I'm just like listening
Speaker 2: or I felt it, but I didn't wanna make it
Speaker 2: a big deal. We're at a thing whatever. But if
Speaker 2: I have felt that that that zing, then I make
Speaker 2: it a point to come back to that m and
Speaker 2: I will say, hey can I can I talk with
Speaker 2: you? You know, we were talking the other day and you
Speaker 2: you said and it just felt like you were like
Speaker 2: coming at me and it didn't feel right, And I
Speaker 2: just wanted to ask you, like, what did you mean?
Speaker 2: Because maybe I read it wrong. I don't wanna take
Speaker 2: it out of context. How what did what made you
Speaker 2: say that? And then they can have a place to
Speaker 2: speak to me about it, and I give a place
Speaker 2: to But I found in the past I would just
Speaker 2: hold it, feel it, and then you know, create potential
Speaker 2: resentment or whatever. Yeah, over something that I don't even
Speaker 2: know if that's exactly what they meant.
Speaker 1: That's so good, I think sometimes I I think I
Speaker 1: do that sometimes. But I think sometimes what happens is I,
Speaker 1: like you say, I hold I might not do it
Speaker 1: right there, but then I'm over it, and so then
Speaker 1: I don't say anything, which is not always good either.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I just kind of blow past things. And I
Speaker 1: think you're right. I think you have to get to it.
Speaker 2: And obviously it depends on who is that, like joh
Speaker 2: okay whatever, who cares exactly have to pay attention to
Speaker 2: that we can move on. But if it's somebody who
Speaker 2: like really plays an important part in your life, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I think it's that. So that's the type
Speaker 2: of practice I started to do. That started to get
Speaker 2: me more comfortable with being able to share.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. That's that's a good practice, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's healthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I free the same thing because I kind
Speaker 2: of I can let things roll off my back. I'm
Speaker 2: not very like I don't hold on this stuff and
Speaker 2: hard and stuff. So I think, but then time's coming.
Speaker 2: You realize stuff is coming up for you and you're like, ooh,
Speaker 2: I'm mad. But I didn't think I was like mad.
Speaker 2: I thought it was fine, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1: I'm mad because I left that thing irritated. I'm pestering.
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 1: What's super inspiring to me as we're talking about this
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking about the musical last night, I had
Speaker 1: heard that it took you like ten years, well Swiss,
Speaker 1: but that to me last night Sos was like, she's
Speaker 1: been working on this for like fifteen years? Is that true?
Speaker 2: It's exaggerated somewhere between ten and thirteen.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's good. That's a long time.
Speaker 2: It's a long time.
Speaker 1: That was inspiring to me because sometimes I start a
Speaker 1: project or I have an idea and it'll sit or
Speaker 1: it'll I don't know, I just can't get it across
Speaker 1: the finish line. And then I always wondered did I
Speaker 1: miss did I miss the moment on it, or did
Speaker 1: I miss the you know, because I heard one time
Speaker 1: too Oprah so id always finished what you start. But
Speaker 1: then also sometimes I feel like you start something if
Speaker 1: it's not working for you. Yeah you had yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I had to be here, but you believed
Speaker 1: in it. You took it all the way. You came
Speaker 1: back to it. I'm sure left it came back.
Speaker 2: I think the thing about the this world, this theater world.
Speaker 2: You know, my mother left Toledo, Ohio to come to
Speaker 2: study at NYU, and she she is that that New
Speaker 2: York story, you know, she is that one that came
Speaker 2: from somewhere else with a dream to do a thing.
Speaker 2: And in a lot of ways, I always felt like
Speaker 2: she s had to sacrifice that part of her life
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 1: Mm.
Speaker 2: You know. So when I am able to kind of
Speaker 2: create these creative endeavors and and do them, I think
Speaker 2: about the fact that sh it's her dream too.
Speaker 1: Mm.
Speaker 2: You know I I her dream and my dream are intertwined,
Speaker 2: you know. And so when I think about particularly in
Speaker 2: the theater, because she took me as a kid to tktks,
Speaker 2: the super cheap tickets so we could buy tickets or
Speaker 2: whatever show and watch it together. Mm. You know what
Speaker 2: I mean, I think about this, and now when we've
Speaker 2: been able to create Health's Kitchen, you know, this is
Speaker 2: in a way the accumulation of this dream that she
Speaker 2: had at nineteen. So it really makes me very emotional
Speaker 2: and it makes me really like a you know, it
Speaker 2: makes this so much worth it. You really see through
Speaker 2: Hell's Kitchen that it ultimately as a love storageing a
Speaker 2: mother and a daughter. And you know, I.
Speaker 1: Your mother must have been emotional wreck the first time
Speaker 1: she saw it.
Speaker 2: I know, I me too too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you learn? Like, what what did you
Speaker 1: heal from that?
Speaker 2: I think one of the things that I really have
Speaker 2: seen my personal growth, it was it came up yesterday,
Speaker 2: is that I, you know, my father and I, although
Speaker 2: my mother raised me, you know, my father and I
Speaker 2: had a a journey to get through to really find
Speaker 2: our way to our own relationship that had to happen
Speaker 2: in its own time. And I'm very proud of seeing
Speaker 2: the way that we have been able to m meet
Speaker 2: each other where we are. And so you do get
Speaker 2: a glimpse of in the in Hell's Kitchen, of the
Speaker 2: relationship between Ali and her mother and and her mother
Speaker 2: and Ali and her father, And for me, you can
Speaker 2: see the growth of that relationship personally. Yeah, And I
Speaker 2: feel really really I'm proud of that, and I feel
Speaker 2: like that's something that's important for people to know that
Speaker 2: there is ways to grow through things that may have
Speaker 2: been challenging.
Speaker 1: How did you get how did what is the key
Speaker 1: to that? To mending a relationship like that? Or is
Speaker 1: it mending even or is just you said meeting each.
Speaker 2: Other where we are? Yeah, I think that. I think
Speaker 2: that's part of it kind of. I think the first
Speaker 2: part for me was like really being able to. We
Speaker 2: think relationships are supposed to be a certain way. You
Speaker 2: think of a father and daughter relationship, and you think
Speaker 2: of a certain relationship. That person's supposed to have raised you,
Speaker 2: they're supposed to have lived with you, maybe they married
Speaker 2: they they married the parent, the other parent, there was
Speaker 2: some type of long standing thing and that This is
Speaker 2: how we see it. But every relationship is not the same.
Speaker 2: So I think at a certain point we have I
Speaker 2: we have in our head the way a s relationship
Speaker 2: is supposed to play out, and if it doesn't look
Speaker 2: like that in our lives, we somehow feel bad about it.
Speaker 2: We feel like that it s something has been something
Speaker 2: has gone wrong. Now, there are plenty of things that
Speaker 2: maybe could have been better, for sure, m but just
Speaker 2: because he didn't raise me doesn't mean that we can't
Speaker 2: have our own relationship. I wasn't ready for that at
Speaker 2: a certain point, you know what I mean. But and
Speaker 2: he was either. But then when you realize, okay, so
Speaker 2: maybe he's not daddy, Okay, I c I could, I
Speaker 2: could admit, but we could be We can be friends,
Speaker 2: like we can get to know each other. We can
Speaker 2: actually have a relationship, our own relationship that we define
Speaker 2: in our own way. He is my father, It's the truth,
Speaker 2: and I would like to have a a good relationship
Speaker 2: with him. So I think taking out the expectations of
Speaker 2: what it supposed to be and meaning it where it
Speaker 2: actually is. If you can. If you can't, then don't
Speaker 2: you shouldn't. And I did that too, I said, noy,
Speaker 2: know what, I'm not ready to me to hear. I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not able to do that. That happened too. But when
Speaker 2: I was, and it was able to be natural and genuine,
Speaker 2: and I was able to be open hearted enough, and
Speaker 2: so is he. And then we communicate, you know, then
Speaker 2: you then you find wow, I do understand that. Oh,
Speaker 2: I can see that.
Speaker 1: It's probably so freeing too, right, Wow?
Speaker 2: It l it takes a load off mm takes a
Speaker 2: big load off, cause I think a lot of times
Speaker 2: we hold all this anger and expectation for things and people.
Speaker 2: But who's who's feeling that anger? You? Who's being affected
Speaker 2: by that anger? You? Who's who's crumbling under that anger? You?
Speaker 2: The other person don't even have a damn clue what
Speaker 2: you feel. They go off living their life great as ever,
Speaker 2: but you are crushed under this anger and pain that
Speaker 2: you're holding on too. So I think when we can
Speaker 2: let that go and kind of say again, we don't,
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that we have to. It's valid. These
Speaker 2: things come from a place. They deserve to be rectified,
Speaker 2: you know. But if you could let it go, then
Speaker 2: maybe you can start from a new place. So that's
Speaker 2: why I think, because.
Speaker 1: We always hear that you gotta let it go, you
Speaker 1: can't hold on to anger. We hear terms like that,
Speaker 1: but literally how to do that is where people get
Speaker 1: tripped up. Tripped up, yes, because it's emotional. I don't
Speaker 1: know how to do that. But I love what you
Speaker 1: said about just meeting people where they are like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is our story, so here we are.
Speaker 2: It's you know, right.
Speaker 1: I think that's a good tool and just a good
Speaker 1: kind of understanding of getting there. It's so good for you.
Speaker 1: By the way, the actors are unbelievable. Yes, now that
Speaker 1: you've done this like you have done it, You've done it. Bag.
Speaker 1: You are a household name, my friend, you really are.
Speaker 1: You never think of like you're a household name. There's
Speaker 1: nobody that I could say at Lasia Keys is on
Speaker 1: my podcast and they go, who is she? Nobody that
Speaker 1: does that like you've done. It's wow, it's crazy. And
Speaker 1: you're still regular to me. I don't know, maybe just
Speaker 1: because we have a relationship, but I don't you.
Speaker 2: Don't seem to you know me.
Speaker 1: I know you seem to manage that level of fame
Speaker 1: at least from the outside really well, like you seem
Speaker 1: to have a good core group. I guess family probably
Speaker 1: helps with that, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I think family, you know. I think
Speaker 2: it's also like where I came from that also instilled
Speaker 2: that in me. And by you know, not to mention
Speaker 2: the fact that if you know my mother, you know she.
Speaker 1: Will has she ever done that? Has she ever said
Speaker 1: to you like you are feeling yourself?
Speaker 2: She will like you need you know, just good feel
Speaker 2: just keep you humble, like how to keep you.
Speaker 1: Humble, And she's right, you want to be humble, you do?
Speaker 2: You do have to kind of like keep things into perspective.
Speaker 1: And do you ever be in your bag?
Speaker 2: Sometimes that doesn't mean that I can't be on my ship.
Speaker 2: I can still be on my ship.
Speaker 1: And what what lifts you up? What do you most
Speaker 1: feel like you're in your bag? What is the circumstances
Speaker 1: that would you know?
Speaker 2: I feel like what I'm recognizing is I can I
Speaker 2: can really be in my bag when I have a
Speaker 2: really strong team. M I feel like I feel the
Speaker 2: most in my bag, Like you know, just recently this summer,
Speaker 2: I did the Keys to the Summer tour and I
Speaker 2: felt like I reunited with one of my favorite directors
Speaker 2: named Diane Martel. She did the thing got You video,
Speaker 2: she did the like You'll never see me again video,
Speaker 2: and we connected, you know, to to create the stage
Speaker 2: show for Keys to the Summer and I just felt
Speaker 2: like she's so understood a side of me, and she
Speaker 2: has such a strength in herself that it allowed me
Speaker 2: to be in my bag because the team that I
Speaker 2: was assembling just felt like strong. That's the same way
Speaker 2: I feel with Hell's Kitchen. I feel that same way.
Speaker 2: It's a strong team. Everyone holds their weight, and so
Speaker 2: I can be in my bag. We can all be
Speaker 2: in our bag because there's like equal sharing of the responsibility.
Speaker 2: That's what I can That's when I feel the most
Speaker 2: in my bag. Sometimes when you have to carry all
Speaker 2: the weight and do all the on that you're like
Speaker 2: you can't quite get in your bag because you got
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: Or speaking to my soul right now. Just clear, she's
Speaker 1: not speaking to our soul. We've been trying to. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I just have all these ideas and things I want
Speaker 1: to do and I don't have the resources, so I
Speaker 1: pile it on myself or you know, I have like
Speaker 1: a small team, very small team, and so sometimes you
Speaker 1: over extend yourself and there's no way to deliver or
Speaker 1: to be, like you say, in your bag when you're
Speaker 1: like spread them like that is hard at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, and I've been there many times. I mean,
Speaker 2: my team will understand too, where we're pretty small as well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there was came a time where we were like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we have to say no. We have to say more no.
Speaker 1: Talk to me about no. Okay, when do you say no?
Speaker 2: You know, well, first of all, I've realized because you're ambitious,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: To balance. I try to balance though I am ambitious.
Speaker 2: And that's a blessing because you have ideas, you have things,
Speaker 2: You're motivated, you're inspired, you have on so many levels,
Speaker 2: which is such a blessing. But then you have to realize,
Speaker 2: if I can't execute this in the manner that I
Speaker 2: would expect of myself, you know, then I have to
Speaker 2: say no. And if I'm putting too much on my team,
Speaker 2: because now we're we've already said yes to far too
Speaker 2: many things, you know, we have to say no. So
Speaker 2: we have started a practice where we were like, okay,
Speaker 2: this is this has to be a no because it
Speaker 2: just it's gonna takes it.
Speaker 1: Ever break your heart. Have you ever made a mistake?
Speaker 1: And no, have you ever ever something you're like, ah,
Speaker 1: I should have did it?
Speaker 2: No, But I felt many times when I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have did it.
Speaker 1: More more regret.
Speaker 2: When you do regret, I'm like I knew, I sh
Speaker 2: I knew this wasn't it and my spirit said don't
Speaker 2: do it. And now here I am doing it and
Speaker 2: I'm mad. I'm not feel I'm not in my joy
Speaker 2: like I feel frustrated, you know, so I do feel
Speaker 2: like the nose are y. As part of the relationship
Speaker 2: of practicing to speak my truth, I have learned to
Speaker 2: also trust my gut. And I know what yes feels like.
Speaker 2: I know what yes feels like mm. I'm very clear
Speaker 2: about what yes feels like. And I know how it
Speaker 2: feels when it's a maybe mm. And I know what
Speaker 2: it feels like when it's like it's not really a no,
Speaker 2: but I think that it's gonna make a few people happy,
Speaker 2: so I make it turn into a yes because I
Speaker 2: think that it's gonna be nice for those people. But
Speaker 2: it's not a yes, it's no. It wasn't a yes,
Speaker 2: it was a maybe. And so if it's not a yes,
Speaker 2: then it's a no.
Speaker 1: I don't know, w I I whatever you just said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put in a little clipper and put it
Speaker 1: for remind myself like this when I'm saying yes to
Speaker 1: too many things and gonna that's gonna be like remind
Speaker 1: my reminder. I can't repeat it exactly what you said,
Speaker 1: but I know it was important. I know I need
Speaker 1: to hear that again. I know I need to rewind
Speaker 1: that and press play on that mm, but the nose
Speaker 1: and the maybes and the yes.
Speaker 2: It's right. So but I feel you, man, Let's talk
Speaker 2: about it's a holiday season.
Speaker 1: People are dealing with all types of family holiday season
Speaker 1: vibes and they're home. Some people get very excited and
Speaker 1: very holiday ish. Yes, some people stresses them out. I
Speaker 1: just wonder what your family dying because you from the gram,
Speaker 1: I mean I know you personally, but like from the gram,
Speaker 1: your family looks like they have the greatest time ever
Speaker 1: at every occasion.
Speaker 2: What else? Right, It's just just tricky, right, it's the
Speaker 2: highlight tricky thing about you know, any social media?
Speaker 1: What is the family dynamic of the Alicia Keys holiday season?
Speaker 1: And well, first of allah, break it down, list let.
Speaker 2: Me family situation. What you need to do is get
Speaker 2: this diary Alicia Keys twenty vinyl. Oh yes, per playing
Speaker 2: in the back at your function. It will fix whatever's wrong,
Speaker 2: whatever's going on, whatever stress you might be feeling, whatever
Speaker 2: like uncertainty. It's just going wide it away. You're gonna
Speaker 2: be good. And if you don't know what to get
Speaker 2: somebody as a gift, oh look at that, so look
Speaker 2: at that. Just saying that the house that's at our house.
Speaker 2: It's awesome. I think it's I think it's really cool.
Speaker 2: We we have a really big family, m as.
Speaker 1: You know, I know you have a blended family.
Speaker 2: You have a big, blended, awesome family. Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: and I gotta say all of us. It's kind of
Speaker 2: like a all of us kind of pass through. We
Speaker 2: have different moments that we're together. I love we do
Speaker 2: this pre I'm big into rituals.
Speaker 1: Tell me about your rituals. Give us one or two.
Speaker 2: We do this pre Christmas ritual, mkay. And it happens
Speaker 2: the it happens on Christmas Eve, and we make each
Speaker 2: other handmade gifts. Now everybody wants to kill me cause
Speaker 2: they're like, honestly, we gotta do this again this year.
Speaker 2: And I say, yes, we have to do it because
Speaker 2: it's special. And every time we do it, it does
Speaker 2: bring up something unique, and we gather together and we
Speaker 2: all have to kind of present what we made. And
Speaker 2: you know, you pull the name and sometimes you know
Speaker 2: that person really well. Sometimes you don't, h and that's
Speaker 2: kind of cool cause you're like, Okay, well what would
Speaker 2: this person like and how could I get to know
Speaker 2: them a little bit better? And what can I damn
Speaker 2: make with my own hands that will not be stupid.
Speaker 1: And then the person might enjoy. Give me an example,
Speaker 1: what is something you made, like when did you kill it?
Speaker 2: Alright, I'll tell you when I kill ki.
Speaker 1: Okay, good telling.
Speaker 2: But maybe it's something as simple as like you have
Speaker 2: a beautiful printed picture and you put it into a
Speaker 2: frame that you kind of decorated with something. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: So maybe it's something like that.
Speaker 1: Kay.
Speaker 2: The time that I killed it, it was for Genesis.
Speaker 2: I got Genesis MM and I decided to make this
Speaker 2: kind of sculpture of this this anime that they love,
Speaker 2: and I created the tree so that he could have
Speaker 2: his like characters and he could play in the in
Speaker 2: the this this main tree. I think it was either
Speaker 2: one piece or Hunter ex Hunter or one of them.
Speaker 2: So I made the tree and it was ill. I
Speaker 2: made the whole base of it, and I had to
Speaker 2: paint it, and there's like a whole uh see around it.
Speaker 2: So we did this whole technique with kind of like
Speaker 2: the stones and the thing and the sea.
Speaker 1: You're making at cards with your hands, you know, you
Speaker 1: make it like a hole.
Speaker 2: It was a treat in the sea that was the
Speaker 2: that was the animate that he could play his his
Speaker 2: little toys in and I was like, oh I I
Speaker 2: one body killed this. Of course I ain't never see
Speaker 2: him pay with it, no want like not like all
Speaker 2: eyes in the corner.
Speaker 1: It doesn't take away from the fact that.
Speaker 2: You killed it. I did kill it.
Speaker 1: Killed it. That's what is the greatest lesson you've learned
Speaker 1: in marriage about yourself? Mm? What does marriage taught you
Speaker 1: about yourself?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, cause really it's that's what they say it is.
Speaker 2: It's a mirror.
Speaker 1: It's a mirror, right, It's like nothing makes you work
Speaker 1: on yourself more than living a life with somebody else.
Speaker 2: Right now, It's so good. This question is really good.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I definitely know that I am. I'm an
Speaker 2: organizer and I enjoy that. I really like to create
Speaker 2: the space for the time that we need. And I
Speaker 2: learned that I'm really good at that and I have
Speaker 2: to constantly not let that go.
Speaker 1: Mm.
Speaker 2: Like that's a really important thing that I'm good at,
Speaker 2: and that I think it really flourished it. It helps
Speaker 2: us to flourish. M you know, because it's easy to
Speaker 2: be so busy, it's easy to be distracted, it's easy
Speaker 2: to be working hard, so to me is like, that's
Speaker 2: just the Aromonts and that's and that's it's something I'm
Speaker 2: good at. Yeah, we're good at it, but I'm really
Speaker 2: good at Like, w is there.
Speaker 1: Anything you had to fix about yourself? Cause I feel
Speaker 1: like that is a thing. Like for me, one of
Speaker 1: the things in my relationship I learned about myself is
Speaker 1: that I would internalize you know, I'm a empathetic person,
Speaker 1: right like I my friends, I wanna you know, I
Speaker 1: wanna help them if I can, and I would carry
Speaker 1: it m and then bring it home. And I never
Speaker 1: knew that about myself until somebody had he had to
Speaker 1: point it out to me. You know, somebody close to
Speaker 1: you teaches you something about yourself or just and so
Speaker 1: I realized that and it's actually been really helpful in
Speaker 1: my life to be able to be there, still be
Speaker 1: there and be empathetic but let it kind of almost
Speaker 1: things go through me as opposed to like holding everybody's.
Speaker 2: Energy issues things. Yes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's like for me, that was one thing.
Speaker 1: I just wonder if you have any of those experience
Speaker 1: where he put like a mirror to you, like, hey,
Speaker 1: maybe you want to work on this.
Speaker 2: I think I have to continue to work on. And
Speaker 2: I've seen that I have to work on being just
Speaker 2: better at being a little more still like I'm a
Speaker 2: do or I'm a getter, or I'm a thinger, I'm
Speaker 2: a fixer, I'm an organizer, a thing I'm gonna go,
Speaker 2: or I'm love And I think that I have to
Speaker 2: get I've seen that I have to get better at
Speaker 2: being like it's okay that you're just like but he's
Speaker 2: the same way. He's definitely the same.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you that you're not.
Speaker 2: He's the same.
Speaker 1: He's more I think more than you.
Speaker 2: Or But I think he's good at like when he's home,
Speaker 2: he's good at kind of like being able to be easy.
Speaker 2: He can like sleep in the bed, He'll rest until
Speaker 2: ten eleven twelve. Me, I'm like six am.
Speaker 1: I rest bum bong bong.
Speaker 2: He's like, we gonna need a little like give me.
Speaker 1: Up till a twelve PM. I need it like at
Speaker 1: least till twelve.
Speaker 2: And I need it too, m you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I think that being able to just kind of
Speaker 2: like still like be still, not not actually activate and
Speaker 2: execute all the things, just kind of like be still
Speaker 2: in the space together it's really nice. And that's something
Speaker 2: that I I always have to be like, wait, stop
Speaker 2: trying to do all the things I'm trying to plan,
Speaker 2: all the things I'm trying to do.
Speaker 1: With cam your red down. How happy are you on
Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten today?
Speaker 2: Today? I'm definitely I I'm not a fucking.
Speaker 1: Ten, really, I am? That is that? Is that all
Speaker 1: the time for you?
Speaker 2: Most all the time?
Speaker 1: No, that's not all the no, I know, but it's
Speaker 1: had a common thing. Some people say they have never
Speaker 1: got to a tech. Some people like, uh, keep a
Speaker 1: tend reserved. I was gonna go eight nine, Okay, I was.
Speaker 2: That was my first thing, honest, first reason gotta be
Speaker 2: honest was like eight nine and I and I felt
Speaker 2: like when I checked in with myself, I felt that
Speaker 2: I was not honoring my joy and I I think
Speaker 2: that it is very important that when we're feeling joyful, mm,
Speaker 2: that we can say we're feeling joyful. I think it's
Speaker 2: so easy to say this is not good and I'm
Speaker 2: not happy and this is not going well, and that
Speaker 2: happens too. And there's plenty of that too that I
Speaker 2: could pull out and be like, well, this isn't that good.
Speaker 2: But I'm feeling joyful. I'm feeling grateful. I was thinking
Speaker 2: about this, celebrating this milestone with diary. I was thinking
Speaker 2: about launching something that I've been working on so long,
Speaker 2: with Hell's Kitchen. I was thinking about the love I
Speaker 2: have for my family and my husband, my son being
Speaker 2: there with me, my hubby being here with me, and
Speaker 2: I feel healthy. I'm sitting with my friends. He's actually here.
Speaker 2: He might be happy right now, but he was. I'm
Speaker 2: sitting here with my friends. We're talking, We're we're together,
Speaker 2: We're well, our minds are intact, our spirits are good.
Speaker 1: In real life? What do you pray for most me?
Speaker 2: I prayed for clarity.
Speaker 1: That's mine. I hate being confused. I hate not knowing
Speaker 1: and not I It's like, if I know, I can
Speaker 1: figure out a plan of action, or I could I
Speaker 1: know how to show up. If I don't have clarity,
Speaker 1: I feel it's crazy.
Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: That's a great prayer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, clarity, clarity and and peace. Safety. It's good.
Speaker 1: Mm moost are good in real life. What are you
Speaker 1: most proud of about yourself?
Speaker 2: In real life? I am most proud that I am
Speaker 2: a normal human me, I don't know, most proud and
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I feel like people can meet me,
Speaker 2: seeing me, talk to me, bill with me. They're gonna
Speaker 2: know that I am their sister. I am just I
Speaker 2: am that same energy. I have not shifted that energy.
Speaker 2: That energy will always be there. I am very proud
Speaker 2: of that. I think that's easy to lose.
Speaker 1: Yes, you are a household name. You know.
Speaker 2: You reminded me you could easily be your there's some
Speaker 2: big headed, annoying human and I'm not with it. I'm
Speaker 2: just not even with it at all.
Speaker 1: That would not be good for anyone.
Speaker 2: No, and real life.
Speaker 1: How important is money to you?
Speaker 2: Mm? Obviously you know money does help a lot of things.
Speaker 2: But for me, that's not where wealth is. To me,
Speaker 2: that's not wealth, that's not that's not rich to me.
Speaker 2: Like your your sanity is where your wealth is. Your health, man,
Speaker 2: there's nothing more important than you being able to be healthy.
Speaker 2: You know, that is your wealth to be able to
Speaker 2: you know, wake up and have all your wits about
Speaker 2: you and love, like real love, genuine that thing that's real,
Speaker 2: not based on something that you have or gonna get
Speaker 2: for something that who you just are on a Wednesday
Speaker 2: in your pajamas with nothing, you know, those are those
Speaker 2: are the thing that's that's like, that's the wealth, that's
Speaker 2: that's being rich. So I really I'm very clear about
Speaker 2: that in real life.
Speaker 1: What are your triggers or your pet peeves? Like, what
Speaker 1: is something that would take you that number ten?
Speaker 2: I mean some of my pet peeves hm on one
Speaker 2: of mine I don't like.
Speaker 1: I don't like people trying to manipulate me. Yeah, way, oh,
Speaker 1: somebody tell me half the story, cause they trying to
Speaker 1: make me do I I could cause I see you
Speaker 1: from up the block. Yeah, you could have just asked
Speaker 1: me for what you needed me to do. Cause nine
Speaker 1: times out of ten, if I can, I would. But
Speaker 1: when you try to, I don't know why. That's just triggered.
Speaker 1: I probably you would figure that out. But it's for
Speaker 1: sure trigger for me will literally make me not like someone.
Speaker 1: It's not okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can go.
Speaker 1: From like, oh they seem like a nice person to
Speaker 1: I don't like that.
Speaker 2: That's a good one.
Speaker 1: That's a real one for me.
Speaker 2: That's a right one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, what's one of my triggers? So it's probably knows
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like one of My triggers
Speaker 2: are like I need you to do what you said
Speaker 2: you're gonna do. Mmm, Like I do what I say
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do. So when people can't meet me where
Speaker 2: I meet them, that triggers me. And like you said
Speaker 2: you were gonna do that, you should do what you
Speaker 2: say you're gonna do. You know that's a big one
Speaker 2: for me. Or don't say it. Just don't say something
Speaker 2: that you can't do. If you can't do it, don't
Speaker 2: don't don't say you can do it.
Speaker 1: I just thought of Little Alley in the play and
Speaker 1: her dad saying she's coming to the thing. That's probably
Speaker 1: what that's rue.
Speaker 2: I think it might come a little bit from there
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 1: And then in real life, what do you I don't know.
Speaker 1: What do you hope people take from your story and
Speaker 1: what you put out in the world, like mm or
Speaker 1: even this conversation today, like when you make things eks
Speaker 1: wh where where do you hope they land?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, I hope that they land in people's hearts.
Speaker 2: I feel like I just want people to feel the genuineness,
Speaker 2: the the care, and the pure energy that goes into it,
Speaker 2: because I think that we're receiving a lot of messages
Speaker 2: that are filled with like not pure intention. Mm you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And so I would love for
Speaker 2: people to just take away that there is that genuineness,
Speaker 2: there is that authentic energy that we can be. We
Speaker 2: can be who we actually are. We don't have to
Speaker 2: put on a bunch of acts and phony and fake
Speaker 2: it down and up. We can just be You are special,
Speaker 2: just how you are. And so I would love that
Speaker 2: my comfort in who I am uh reminds somebody that
Speaker 2: they are are incredible exactly how they are, and we
Speaker 2: can respect and love each other and like applaud and
Speaker 2: uplift each other, cause I think that would change a lot.
Speaker 2: I love that, and I love this and with you
Speaker 2: me too, this platform. Thank you for this natural conversation,
Speaker 2: and thank you for just being such a supporter of
Speaker 2: me and the art and so adore you. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Alicia Keys, everybody, Hey, how so dame here
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