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Speaker 1: the phone are the co founders of Moms as Entrepreneurs,
Speaker 1: mission to remove the stigma that moms are unwilling to
Speaker 1: risks are assumed the pressures of being a mom and
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. Through their struggles of both motherhood and entrepreneurship,
Speaker 1: they knew exactly what was needed to have service a
Speaker 1: community that most didn't think of mothers. Since seventeen, they
Speaker 1: have launched over a hundred and ten mom owned businesses.
Speaker 1: Please walk on the Money Making Conversation. Dr Tamira Lucas
Speaker 1: and Miss Jasmine Sam's thank you for having us. We
Speaker 1: are well you know, you know, I'm a guy. I
Speaker 1: really uh around a lot to shows about entrepreneurship, and
Speaker 1: I know that you know, women are exploding in entrepreneurship,
Speaker 1: especially African American women are exploding that. I like get
Speaker 1: a response from each one of you about why do
Speaker 1: you think that is so? Starting with you, Dr Lucas. So,
Speaker 1: women are exploding in entrepreneurship because we build businesses based
Speaker 1: off of fastasies from outside, um that we need every
Speaker 1: single day. And I know that these things like very
Speaker 1: cliche of like, well everybody builds a business also necessity,
Speaker 1: but women are those as you take go back to
Speaker 1: our history, Um, you know, we were creating solutions to
Speaker 1: problems within our household because women were the ones that were,
Speaker 1: you know, mainly taking care of the households by the
Speaker 1: male work. And those things kind of exploded from hey,
Speaker 1: this is a necessity that I need for my family
Speaker 1: and my children. UM, and we kind of think a
Speaker 1: little bit differently. We're always thinking strategically, were always thinking
Speaker 1: innovatively because we need these things right now. UM. And
Speaker 1: right now it is the year I know here in Maryland.
Speaker 1: Were located in Maryland and the governor has um said
Speaker 1: that is me or the women, UM, and we are
Speaker 1: really stepping up to the plate to grow businesses. But
Speaker 1: gentlemen and I want to make sure that we're not
Speaker 1: just starting businesses, but we're growing and scaling those businesses
Speaker 1: so that we can be uh, the next multimillions of
Speaker 1: those individuals or those women and moms could be the
Speaker 1: next multipmillion dollars businesses that our country. Um. Are birthdays cool?
Speaker 1: And the reason you think differently, that's why I wanted
Speaker 1: UH seems to have a response because you know, I
Speaker 1: always tell people you're successful by thinking differently, but you're
Speaker 1: even greater, which is greater heights of success when you
Speaker 1: can operate as a team. And that's what you're doing now. MS.
Speaker 1: Sam's your response on why women, especially African American women
Speaker 1: are just exploding in the entrepreneurship fields. So not only
Speaker 1: do we see needs that are immediate, but We've always
Speaker 1: warned so many heads in our families and in our communities,
Speaker 1: and so we have so many talents and most of
Speaker 1: those coming in form of hobbies or you know, things
Speaker 1: you do offer to provide our families and the people
Speaker 1: around that. And so people like Tenere and uh, you
Speaker 1: see that and our neighborhoods, and we see it was
Speaker 1: time to take their hobbies and turn it into money
Speaker 1: making activities for them in their communities. So and then
Speaker 1: coupled with more of our women are going to school
Speaker 1: to get the education that can help them actually pursue
Speaker 1: those goals. And then we have more resources that we
Speaker 1: can go online and look at the information we need,
Speaker 1: or we have different programs, webinars, seminars that we can
Speaker 1: go to to get the information we need to actually
Speaker 1: turn these hobbies into businesses. So it's allowing us to
Speaker 1: cataport ourselves beyond where we were able to go before.
Speaker 1: So the Mirror said, and then all together, well, I
Speaker 1: didn't know the thing about it is that, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a curious guy. You know, I'm going through Black Enterprise.
Speaker 1: I come across this nice article about the two of you,
Speaker 1: and I have six sisters, none of them have out all,
Speaker 1: uh follow in the entrepreneur lane that YouTube are striving
Speaker 1: for women to pursue. But there, you know, but they're
Speaker 1: they're my sisters. You know, they're African Americans. And when
Speaker 1: I see women stepping beyond the norm, the norm is
Speaker 1: when I say that not to stay at home mom.
Speaker 1: The normals not just a forty hour week job that
Speaker 1: may include over time, but saying hey, I trust my
Speaker 1: natural instinct, I have a plan of action. I can
Speaker 1: go out there, I can get Alan. I won't get
Speaker 1: me Alan. I'm gonna figure out a way to pursue
Speaker 1: my dreams and aspirations and build this brand. That's a
Speaker 1: lot of work. Why and when I read it, since
Speaker 1: seen YouTube have been responsible for over fifty six mom
Speaker 1: owned businesses lunch, talk to me about that. That's a
Speaker 1: that's a that's that's a a champion right there, that's
Speaker 1: a champion talking about a champion of the community. Ladies, Well,
Speaker 1: we need to statistic a little bit because it's been
Speaker 1: over ab Okay, all getting stuff from my buff people
Speaker 1: send me stuff, I pull it out, I put it
Speaker 1: on here. Okay, So what you're not gonna do jas
Speaker 1: what you a't gonna do is come on my show
Speaker 1: and I's like, I'm just selling bad information. Now if
Speaker 1: you say it's over a hundred earlier, say at the
Speaker 1: first time and beat your your and you gonna go.
Speaker 1: I gotta stop this brother. His brother spread bad news
Speaker 1: about you know, you worked too hard to build us,
Speaker 1: you know, So how many of that number right there?
Speaker 1: So I can repromote that what's that number? Is not
Speaker 1: fifty six? What is it? I heard over and ten
Speaker 1: one more row? Okay, see hours is remarkable by myself,
Speaker 1: but we've been able to take it even for almost
Speaker 1: double it because we were able to be running baking
Speaker 1: A kid to me, we thought it was one. Let
Speaker 1: me fix this says they have launched over a hundred
Speaker 1: and ten mom owned businesses. Please walk on the Money
Speaker 1: Making Conversation. Dr Tamira Lucas and it's jazz Sas. See.
Speaker 1: That's how we're doing on money making conversation. That's that's
Speaker 1: how we're doing the money make conversation. We're in the
Speaker 1: business of being accurate, being right, you know. So when
Speaker 1: this when this ads on podcasts and all my platforms,
Speaker 1: we're gonna promote exactly the success story that you guys
Speaker 1: are putting out there now. The interesting thing about all
Speaker 1: I do is go on your I go on your website.
Speaker 1: I pulled information that says Dr Lucas your trailblazer among
Speaker 1: professionals and a powerful boarce for moms teaching business balance
Speaker 1: and babies. Co found up the Cue Cowork, Maryland's first
Speaker 1: and only coworking space that provides babysitting services. Then this
Speaker 1: Sam's salon consultant, industry expert with over twelve years of
Speaker 1: beauty and hospitality experience. Am I is that correct? Just
Speaker 1: want to make sure that is correct exact. I can
Speaker 1: handle one of you guys on me, But do y'all
Speaker 1: we're gonna get this straight moving forward. So let's talk
Speaker 1: about this as a co found of the Cube co
Speaker 1: work because the thing about is going on with the pandemic,
Speaker 1: you know, the the you know states have been shut down,
Speaker 1: they're starting to reopen, and guess what, some people are
Speaker 1: gonna go back to reopen to no jobs. And then
Speaker 1: and then some people are being called back to work
Speaker 1: and childcare centers are not even open or they're starting
Speaker 1: to reopen. So how can you go back to work
Speaker 1: and you can have no place to deliver your child
Speaker 1: to be taken care of. Why are you're working? So
Speaker 1: when you talk about the q CO work, tell me
Speaker 1: how it's been effective now effective now affective now with
Speaker 1: the pandemic, and how does it actually work. So we
Speaker 1: created the que co workus there myself as a space
Speaker 1: jasmine and our train these moms. We will come to
Speaker 1: contact with other mom entrepreneurs that started but they couldn't
Speaker 1: They were struggling with balancing their families and and their kids.
Speaker 1: And coworking is a cool um industry to be in.
Speaker 1: It's a cool um idea, innovative ideas working in the
Speaker 1: space with complete strangers, but being able to do network
Speaker 1: and grow which we all need to grow out businesses.
Speaker 1: But when you add when you think about childcare, cause
Speaker 1: you can buy a Toyota at least the Toyota Corolla
Speaker 1: every single year for the amount that you'll pay in childcare,
Speaker 1: keyes right, So we had to think about, well, how
Speaker 1: are these moms go are living a little the poverty
Speaker 1: levels starting businesses gonna be able to afford childcare? And
Speaker 1: I created the coworking space that has babysitting services inside
Speaker 1: of it so that one moms or dad because we
Speaker 1: have both parents, UM can focus on their work. But
Speaker 1: not only can they focus on their work, but they
Speaker 1: can also not have the burden of high childcare costs
Speaker 1: because of how our feed structure. Now, before we were
Speaker 1: fully UM we had our membership was pretty much full
Speaker 1: because of the baby Sydney s that UM that it
Speaker 1: was a pretty quickly. However, UM there you know, there
Speaker 1: was still a lot of businesses that were working inside
Speaker 1: of their traditional office space. Well, places like Facebook and Twitter.
Speaker 1: These companies are now getting an option for for parents,
Speaker 1: I mean for their workers to work from home, and
Speaker 1: I feel that this will be the trend in the
Speaker 1: in the industry of UM those type of companies or
Speaker 1: companies periods saying hey you can work from home, and
Speaker 1: now that childcare part is going to be UM critical.
Speaker 1: So working in a in a space where you can
Speaker 1: come in and get four hours of uninterrupted or three
Speaker 1: hours of uninterrupted work done and then you can like
Speaker 1: do whatever else you need to do for the rest
Speaker 1: of the day is going to be kind of ideal.
Speaker 1: So right now, although we're not open and physically, we
Speaker 1: created a model that will help us the same over
Speaker 1: time hopefully, but we can anticipate that we're going to
Speaker 1: have a large number of people knockingbol parents, knocking at
Speaker 1: outdoor to utilize our services because we know that business
Speaker 1: is not going to be as usual once everything we
Speaker 1: finally reopen. Absolutely that this pandemic has shown, like Twitter
Speaker 1: made an announcement that hey, stay at home, work at
Speaker 1: work remote, which is going to have our effect on
Speaker 1: real estate office real estate in the future, because that's
Speaker 1: the one industry that has a lot of uncertainty. But
Speaker 1: when we come back on our next break, I gotta
Speaker 1: go to ah, Miss Jasmine SAMs. You know, she's a
Speaker 1: salon expert, and we know what's going on with the
Speaker 1: beauty and Barbara industry right now. When you come back,
Speaker 1: I want to kick off with the question, how what
Speaker 1: advice are you given to I got. I got a brother,
Speaker 1: younger brother. He has a four Beauty and Barbara salons
Speaker 1: in the in the DC Maryland area. So and we've
Speaker 1: been talking and I've been consulting to him. But I
Speaker 1: don't have the title as an expert. So she's an expert.
Speaker 1: So we come back, we'll talk about expert more from
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Speaker 1: ten mom owned businesses they have started in seventeen. I
Speaker 1: gotta get it right moms as entrepreneurs. How this ra
Speaker 1: Sean McDonald And you're listening to money making conversations I
Speaker 1: have on the phone, Doctor Tamara Lucas and Miss Jason Sims.
Speaker 1: As you as we spoke about moms as entrepreneurs, UM
Speaker 1: an area of growth that's exploding out there in the
Speaker 1: entrepreneur world. That's one of the reasons why I'm motivated
Speaker 1: to start. For the reason I was motivated to start
Speaker 1: money Making Conversation just to provide information, free information and
Speaker 1: bring what I feel in individuals like uh DR Lucas
Speaker 1: and Ms sam Is on the show just to share
Speaker 1: their stories and hopefully they can you can you can
Speaker 1: get some nuggets of information on how they're doing and
Speaker 1: how they're applying their the lanes. Because when you when
Speaker 1: you're an entrepreneur, there are no consistent days of saying
Speaker 1: it's gonna be done this way. Every day. It changes
Speaker 1: every day. You have to be prepared for that change
Speaker 1: and you cannot be frustrated it by that change. What
Speaker 1: you can do is plan for change, and as you
Speaker 1: plan for change, then you can overcome the obstacles that
Speaker 1: may frustrate you. UM on the focus, Miss Jasmine sam
Speaker 1: uh I read earlier. Sal Salon consultant, industry expert in
Speaker 1: the beauty arena. Whe over twelve years of experience and
Speaker 1: the beauty and the hospitality experience, we know what's enduring
Speaker 1: what's happened in this country or with the pandemic, especially
Speaker 1: in the African American community where we are overtly affected
Speaker 1: by the COVID nineteen virus. How is the in the
Speaker 1: Maryland area, how's it being happened? And people coming to
Speaker 1: you advice or what advice are you giving them? Um
Speaker 1: my advice? You know everyone so ready to eiven, reopen
Speaker 1: or just to go through their hair and nails done,
Speaker 1: and you know they are ways to take care of
Speaker 1: those things yourself at home and the many times the
Speaker 1: health of your here, the health of you and the
Speaker 1: health of your nails is most important, but also the
Speaker 1: health of you as an individual, because if you are dead,
Speaker 1: you cannot get your hand and nails run again unless
Speaker 1: he's buy more atticitions. So stay in the mouth, follow
Speaker 1: your state regulations or your county regulations, and follow your
Speaker 1: state board of costology or your barber's board. Follow the regulations.
Speaker 1: So you're saying that, don't put beauty ahead of safety, No,
Speaker 1: don't do that. A lot of people like I said,
Speaker 1: I talked to my my younger brother here. He showed
Speaker 1: me photos, he showed me a video showing how he's
Speaker 1: had to put shower curtains, clear shower curtains between each
Speaker 1: stall in his barber salon. He's removed all the chairs
Speaker 1: out of his barber salon and everything's about plumbing. Only
Speaker 1: he's had to go out and by he's bought goggles,
Speaker 1: he's bought mad of course he has and sanitizer his
Speaker 1: lights home spray. And the problem with that is that
Speaker 1: that was not part of his budget. That has suddenly
Speaker 1: become part of his budget. And so when you have
Speaker 1: in this pandemic world that we're living in and you
Speaker 1: have women or moms trying to break into the entrepreneurial space,
Speaker 1: it's a different model now, correct, right it is. You know,
Speaker 1: when when we got noticed that the city and the
Speaker 1: state was starting to shut down, he had to begin
Speaker 1: to get creative. So in our business, I have a
Speaker 1: hands on an emails on we begin to sell off
Speaker 1: the inventory that we haven't started to create at home
Speaker 1: kits to sell to our clients. So that was one
Speaker 1: way to continue ce revenue generation, right right right so,
Speaker 1: and and also we are membership based, so that was
Speaker 1: another way to make sure that when things are slow
Speaker 1: or like this happened, we have a way to kind
Speaker 1: of maintain our brand and keep ourselves in the fullfront
Speaker 1: either when you know we may not be able to operate,
Speaker 1: then she keeps us alive during this time as well,
Speaker 1: right right, so, as as as zoom, as the as,
Speaker 1: the as the social media world be important during this
Speaker 1: time and how do you use the social media to
Speaker 1: promote your brand? You know, Mom as Entrepreneurs and Dr
Speaker 1: Lucas could be you miss Jazz and spill. It could
Speaker 1: be you responding and both you guys can respond because
Speaker 1: the whole thing is that I know this is a
Speaker 1: joint effort to you know, guys use y'all different ways
Speaker 1: of thinking, like you stated earlier, which makes this, uh,
Speaker 1: this partnership work and uh I go with you first,
Speaker 1: Dr Lucas. So Jasmine and I have definitely gotten very
Speaker 1: creative collectively and individually for our businesses and ensuring that
Speaker 1: all of our brands that we have, whether it's Mom's
Speaker 1: Entrepreneurs or our personal braves are are continues to be alive.
Speaker 1: But we really utilize those platforms to really tell the
Speaker 1: story but also share the resources and the things that
Speaker 1: we knew that most entrepreneurs needed at the time. So
Speaker 1: within a week of UM COVID nineteen hitting M Desmond
Speaker 1: were immediately sharing UM advice, resources and anything anything that
Speaker 1: we that we were able to access or even have
Speaker 1: a knowledge of. We was immediately using UM those platforms
Speaker 1: to share that information. So I know, I strongly I
Speaker 1: had so many beauty experts. As a business consultant, I
Speaker 1: worked with all types of entrepreneurs and I had a
Speaker 1: lot of UM beauty and beauty entrepreneurs in the beauty industry.
Speaker 1: A lot of my entrepreneurs in the beauty industry reach
Speaker 1: old and say well what am I supposed to do
Speaker 1: and quickly, you know, giving them advice on how to
Speaker 1: pivot and their business so that they can stay because
Speaker 1: a lot of times, well the resources that were the
Speaker 1: funding the release programs that originally went out for COVID
Speaker 1: nineteens did not support those type of entrepreneurs. They didn't
Speaker 1: support the duty industry entrepreneurs that may not be taking
Speaker 1: a pay checks or have contractors and do not have employees.
Speaker 1: So giving them education and support on how to pivot
Speaker 1: their business so that they're still generating some type of
Speaker 1: income UM was extremely important. And also what did we
Speaker 1: have available UM from a mom's as entrepreneurs prestructive, so
Speaker 1: we immediately our workshops. While academy is normally face to face,
Speaker 1: that we do that UM specifically face to face so
Speaker 1: that we can have the sole attention of the parents,
Speaker 1: I mean of the mom as they're working towards starting
Speaker 1: their business. We had to pivot that online UM. That
Speaker 1: online virtual academy started March. I mean, I'm sorry, May eighteen, UM.
Speaker 1: And then we also created this fun because we knew
Speaker 1: that a lot of mym entrepreneurs, a lot of black
Speaker 1: mom entrepreneurs, were pushed out of the relief efforts. So
Speaker 1: we knew that, Okay, we don't have millions of dollars,
Speaker 1: but we know that we have a network that could
Speaker 1: possibly donate into a fund to help us support the
Speaker 1: mom owned businesses that are across the country that are
Speaker 1: suffering every day. We're always overlooked, We're always grouped into
Speaker 1: women owned businesses. We are women, but we are moms
Speaker 1: and that's totally different. The the the investment that I
Speaker 1: make is solely contingent on the impact that is going
Speaker 1: to have on my child or on my family. And
Speaker 1: if you are if you are a woman without kids,
Speaker 1: you can take a much greater rest in starting something
Speaker 1: or investing this stuff, because you only have yourself to
Speaker 1: worry about. So that was on the forefront of Jasmine
Speaker 1: and our mind of like, how do we support these moms.
Speaker 1: We're moms, UM, we have a great support system. We
Speaker 1: support one and now that we have a really good
Speaker 1: support system, UM, I would say collectively. But that's not
Speaker 1: the case for a lot of moms, especially in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: We're in Baltimore where most of the households are ran
Speaker 1: by single mothers. So if we want to continue to
Speaker 1: keep crime down, if we want to continue to UM
Speaker 1: had our economy operating UM and a decent faster, we
Speaker 1: need to make sure that these moms have what they
Speaker 1: need financially the same businesses. I know, either the two
Speaker 1: who can talk. Now, Dr lucas you talk, you almost
Speaker 1: ate up all the pol jasmus time she's cleaned all
Speaker 1: into the beauty side of the conversation that you were
Speaker 1: rocking the roll. And then I was like, hey, she
Speaker 1: got right down when our credits is motivational speaker because
Speaker 1: she can speak. That is all right, I know that's right.
Speaker 1: But let's let's talk a little bit about miss Jasmine.
Speaker 1: What's just the most rewarding part about being a philanthropist
Speaker 1: because I do see the on the cover of your website.
Speaker 1: I went there and it talks about you know, you
Speaker 1: have twenty six contributors Moms Give Life, Moms Give Community,
Speaker 1: hashtag Giving Tuesdays. You know, over a thousand dollars been
Speaker 1: raised so far. I'm an contribute to that. So my
Speaker 1: name pop up in there this week. Um what I
Speaker 1: love to be able to do. I have a newsletter.
Speaker 1: It goes out every Friday on time and at uh
Speaker 1: nine am to ninety thousand fan club members. I'd love
Speaker 1: to put this video or some type of banner in
Speaker 1: telling your story, your your organizational story, moms and entrepreneurs,
Speaker 1: and see if we can get some more contributions. Is
Speaker 1: that cool? We loveatful beautiful. It's just beautiful, just beautiful, Jasmine.
Speaker 1: You know, I know you don't how much time left
Speaker 1: because you know your business partner can talk. You know
Speaker 1: if my mom say talking, talk her head off of
Speaker 1: a dog. You know what I'm saying. You know where
Speaker 1: they go. Well, you know Dr Lucas was talking. Well,
Speaker 1: I would say the most rewarding things about being philanthropic
Speaker 1: is just the success that we get to see from
Speaker 1: the minds that we support and ultimately thanky thanky going
Speaker 1: when when we cant calling in my business or and
Speaker 1: the things that I'm doing, I can't. I can't quit
Speaker 1: because I have this team of other women who have
Speaker 1: looked up to me in tam Era and have said,
Speaker 1: you know, if they can do it, I can do it.
Speaker 1: So if I quit or Tamara just as to quit,
Speaker 1: does that mean it's okay for them the quit and
Speaker 1: we don't believe that. So for me, this seeing that
Speaker 1: the work they're able to put in, the self motivation
Speaker 1: that they've they've been able to develop because I'm lot
Speaker 1: of them stought out, very discouraged and believing that this
Speaker 1: is not something that they can do. But someone told
Speaker 1: them about the school man and said, maybe you should
Speaker 1: give it a shot. You're very talented, you're very still
Speaker 1: it's sounds for you to put that emotion. And so
Speaker 1: just seeing these women just grow and build their businesses
Speaker 1: and become successful, that's the most people in part we know.
Speaker 1: I've seen organizations like one hundred Black men um you
Speaker 1: know in a c p H National Urban League, you know,
Speaker 1: started one location and then become in affiliates or throughout
Speaker 1: this country. What what just the future of your organization
Speaker 1: UM Moms as entrepreneurs as far as a national platform.
Speaker 1: So it's funny because COVID has allowed us that opportunity
Speaker 1: to go national as we always UM engngeing to do so.
Speaker 1: So now that we have this UM fun it's not
Speaker 1: just a fund for Moms and Baltimore to access. For
Speaker 1: this a fund that anyone, any moment and you at
Speaker 1: the States could access. And also our virtual academy. So
Speaker 1: it pushed us to really step out there and get
Speaker 1: out to the world, into the United States. Until now
Speaker 1: we are a manal organization. That's a beautiful thing. I'm
Speaker 1: speaking to my friends. I'm calling my friends now. You know,
Speaker 1: we've laughed, if I've been corrected on the air, you
Speaker 1: know on my own show. You know that's what you're
Speaker 1: not gonna do is run over these two moms. Okay,
Speaker 1: that'll be polite, but they're gonna pull you to the side.
Speaker 1: But see they couldn't pull me to the side on
Speaker 1: the ready. You gotta tell us about it. That's wrong, right,
Speaker 1: that's wrong, not what's wrong right there. We have launched
Speaker 1: over one hundred and ten mom owned businesses since we
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen we launched Moms since entrepreneurs, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: thank Dr Tamara Lucas and Mrs jasminth SEMs were coming
Speaker 1: on this show, and I want to thank you. Know,
Speaker 1: like I said, when I saw the article in the
Speaker 1: Black Enterprise, I was motivated to contact you too, and
Speaker 1: I was thank you for taking the time. I gonna
Speaker 1: come on Money Making Conversations and share part of your story. Again.
Speaker 1: I want to reach out to you, Samantha, my executive
Speaker 1: producer of the show, to get some banners who we
Speaker 1: can put in the newsletter because you have a cause
Speaker 1: of trying to generate revenue. I went through the payroll
Speaker 1: protection program and it's not set up for an independent
Speaker 1: um and uh entrepreneurs, it's not you know. Uh that's
Speaker 1: the reason why the average loan and the second go
Speaker 1: round is only seven and seventy nine thousand loans distributed
Speaker 1: versus the first go round when you were just passing
Speaker 1: that checks like it was free money. So again, thank
Speaker 1: you for coming on the show and we were stay
Speaker 1: in touch with that good. Yeah, AT appreciate. If you
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