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Speaker 1: of the top honors is you can get as a
Speaker 1: chef best known for his barrier breaking cuisine connecting the
Speaker 1: food ways of West Africa and Asia to the America's.
Speaker 1: My man hails from the cultural mecca of Harlem, New York.
Speaker 1: Is the host of Cleo's TV just Eats with Chef JJ,
Speaker 1: founder of Field Trip Restaurant in Harlem, creative BuzzFeed Tasty,
Speaker 1: and author Between Harlem and Helen. The second season of
Speaker 1: Just Eats with Chef JJ premiers on tv Ones network
Speaker 1: Cleo TV Saturday, February twenty second, at twelve pm noon
Speaker 1: Eastern Standard Time on TV Ones Again Cleo TV, Please
Speaker 1: welcome back to money making conversations, my man, Chef JJ,
Speaker 1: How are you pretty good? My man? You know he's
Speaker 1: you got so much going on. You have to be patient.
Speaker 1: You have to be patient. I mean, I I love
Speaker 1: each other from I'm from the Mecca, and you know
Speaker 1: I'm moving and shaking. I like those things. But the
Speaker 1: thing is, you know, I lived in New York. I
Speaker 1: know exactly what you are. The Harlem is it has
Speaker 1: changed because I first moved to New York and eight
Speaker 1: and then I moved back up there. You know, there's
Speaker 1: a many TV shows up there and the Deaf Company
Speaker 1: Jam and nanty two and I moved up there, Steve Harmon.
Speaker 1: I moved up to do It Radio showing WBLS one
Speaker 1: or seven point five in two thousand five. And that's
Speaker 1: when hard I started to change. You know that that's
Speaker 1: say change. I'm talking about the racial change and the
Speaker 1: building instruction change. You know, I'm trying to keep. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to I'm trying to be one of them. You know,
Speaker 1: we're a new business here on Harlem called Filter with
Speaker 1: Rights Bullshot between one fifteen, the one six season, Malcolm
Speaker 1: Ex Boulevard right in front of the two and the
Speaker 1: three trains. You know, my goal here is people to
Speaker 1: know that, you know, it's the black business and uh
Speaker 1: and we're in the Mecca and hopefully other black businesses
Speaker 1: were confidence to move into Bacon spaces. And that's why
Speaker 1: I feel like we keep the narrative going regards to
Speaker 1: moving to the neighborhood that has showed what our cultural
Speaker 1: excellence is. And that's that's correct, and that's you know
Speaker 1: when you let me ask you this, uh, you know
Speaker 1: you're New York guy, to hallm what what do you what?
Speaker 1: What is the brand of Halem? You know it's been
Speaker 1: so transitional, wanted to entertainment to play a big role.
Speaker 1: Has always been a place for style. What do you
Speaker 1: think harm is evolving into now? Jeff j J You
Speaker 1: know how you know that's a hard one. You know.
Speaker 1: I think Harlem, you know, as much as the people
Speaker 1: in the streets are changing, I think the people that
Speaker 1: are are are able to create the narrative or holding
Speaker 1: onto the narrative really well. Um, I think Harlem will
Speaker 1: always be a place for for excellence and for black people. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it'll be the mecca whe you'll find things. Um.
Speaker 1: I feel like fashion right now is big back in
Speaker 1: Harlem right now with Dapper Dan. You know, here's a
Speaker 1: couple of blocks away from the restaurant here, you know,
Speaker 1: celebs and people going into his affiliation and getting something fashionable. Um.
Speaker 1: So I feel like fashion is coming back to Harlem,
Speaker 1: and and he's in the forefront of that. Um. And
Speaker 1: then I think food culture, Uh, in many different ways,
Speaker 1: Harlem has always been that that community for you to
Speaker 1: be able to express yourself. We're seeing a lot of
Speaker 1: different culture and it's Indian food in Mexican or African
Speaker 1: American or global um starting to sprout up from Harlem
Speaker 1: because you know, the community really respects everybody, UM and
Speaker 1: it will always talk back. It really is interesting, Like
Speaker 1: before we get into the TV show and also the
Speaker 1: restaurant what what? What drives your passion? Because I'll see
Speaker 1: you on TV out seeing your post on social media
Speaker 1: and uh, you always seem happy. You always seem like
Speaker 1: there's a gleam in your eye when it comes to
Speaker 1: food and watching people eat your food and serving the
Speaker 1: product that you've made. I would tell people that my
Speaker 1: my definition of food is art, art that you can
Speaker 1: eat because it can look so beautiful and then it
Speaker 1: can be consumed. What is your what? What? What is
Speaker 1: your passion? What drives you to that that world? Because
Speaker 1: I'm a foodie, you know, just could just being able
Speaker 1: to connect people is really good. And knowing that they're
Speaker 1: connecting over the food that I'm making and I'm bringing
Speaker 1: a smile right right? Uh? Really great? And you know
Speaker 1: I just love to cook. Uh, He's really in my
Speaker 1: DNA and for me, cooking is a safe space. Right.
Speaker 1: You could be You could be anything and anybody. You
Speaker 1: could try to be somebody else. You could try to
Speaker 1: throw that flavor in the pan. Uh. You know, you
Speaker 1: could say bang boom, whatever you want. Um. And you know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you have the happiest
Speaker 1: moments around food, regardless if you're worth millions or you
Speaker 1: know you're struggling. Um. And that's why that's what really
Speaker 1: brings joy to me, knowing that, um, that I'm really
Speaker 1: able now to project my you know, my culinary some
Speaker 1: of my culinary plv on this the mainstream folks that
Speaker 1: I'm in their kitchens now, which is really uh exciting
Speaker 1: for me because as a young kids is one of
Speaker 1: things I've always dreamed about. Well, you know, it's really
Speaker 1: cool because I'm a I'm a baker. You know, the
Speaker 1: people have told Coast I'm an award winning baker. And
Speaker 1: I know that you told me that. I remember that,
Speaker 1: and so it relaxes me. You know, like I get
Speaker 1: up in the morning, I generally get up at foward
Speaker 1: and I make a couple of desserts, and uh, I
Speaker 1: want dessert and bring it to my staff because they're
Speaker 1: just a moment where my mind can't think about I
Speaker 1: can't think about anything, I can't do talk about deals
Speaker 1: in my mind, I can't think about other TV shows
Speaker 1: because you have to be focused when you when you
Speaker 1: are in the kitchen, because that's why mistakes happen. And
Speaker 1: sometimes especially when you bake. You can't fix a mistake.
Speaker 1: You gotta go away. Yeah, you can't know once you
Speaker 1: beg if you messed up, you gotta started all over
Speaker 1: the beginning. I think for me, music is that key
Speaker 1: right right right. Music. Music helps you block in and
Speaker 1: brings that vibe. It gives you that other emotion that
Speaker 1: you're looking for. So for me, when I'm in the kitchen,
Speaker 1: like in the test kitchen, like really working on recipes,
Speaker 1: kind of get something really right, I'm throwing on something
Speaker 1: that really um really bring me there to a focal
Speaker 1: focal point. I'm talking to Chef JJ. He has a
Speaker 1: show on Cleo TV, which is all part of these
Speaker 1: TV ones networking Coach just eats with Chef JJ. Yet
Speaker 1: season one and now I went to season two. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about season one, what you enjoyed about it, what
Speaker 1: you and then we're leading to the expectations of what
Speaker 1: we can expect from season two. Season one. You know
Speaker 1: that that was that's my that was my first show
Speaker 1: episode something. I'm not gonna lie on that, but it
Speaker 1: was great. You know, it was great getting to know
Speaker 1: some people that I didn't know before, really cooking and
Speaker 1: talking about some interesting things. Um. And you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited that you know, TV one and Cleo
Speaker 1: uh bringing Jesse's back to the season two means that
Speaker 1: people were watching. So I want to thank everybody. Uh,
Speaker 1: people like you were spreading the word for us. For me,
Speaker 1: I'm a fan. You know that, you know that I'm
Speaker 1: a fan. Thank you very much. So first season two.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about season two. I'm really bringing like
Speaker 1: really amazing flavors, some fabulous gas. You know, we're shaking
Speaker 1: and we're moving. Uh, we're in. We're my new beautiful kitchen.
Speaker 1: Uh and the conversation Okay, okay, a new kitchen now okay,
Speaker 1: now you you just can't slide that by, you know,
Speaker 1: and you used to word beautiful. Okay. I'm a kitchen
Speaker 1: guy now, Okay, so I know you used to work
Speaker 1: beautiful too. So because the kitchen was kind of tight
Speaker 1: in season one. Okay, so it was tight, you know,
Speaker 1: kitchen was a little tight. Yeah, correct, And that's luckily
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm a little I'm a swim guy, so
Speaker 1: it worked out right. Well. The great thing, you know,
Speaker 1: the interesting thing about you know, being a TV producer
Speaker 1: and watching the talent you are a talent, you know,
Speaker 1: watching you evolve, you know, watching how you because your
Speaker 1: number one skill is cooking, like you know, number one
Speaker 1: skill of anybody who who's a specialist. And then when
Speaker 1: you're starting to interact and keep those individuals who to
Speaker 1: be engaged, some of them you do know, some of
Speaker 1: you don't know. So that the evolution. I love watching
Speaker 1: you become the star, a TV star that you become
Speaker 1: to tell us about some of those steps that you
Speaker 1: had to go with and started, you know, make sure
Speaker 1: the meal came out right, but also make sure the
Speaker 1: people you had on your show stay engaged in the process. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know most TV shows that the shop doesn't really
Speaker 1: cook right, they just do a couple of things. You know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I guess a nervous because I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: Like this season I had to hear you on, like
Speaker 1: to hear he's about to eat this dish and did
Speaker 1: I put enough salt? Like I don't have enough time
Speaker 1: to taste and like re change like they're gonna she
Speaker 1: don't really judge me on this dish. So it really
Speaker 1: pushes me to a different mental limit of like cooking
Speaker 1: on television that I'm really cooking alongside of entertaining. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, my goal this season was really you know,
Speaker 1: listening to the to the fans and hearing what they
Speaker 1: wanted and really bringing them that through, bringing that through
Speaker 1: the TV screen. So you know, you'll see you'll see
Speaker 1: something like Kyla Green Lasagna, um that I'm doing a
Speaker 1: little bit of you know, uh you know cast I
Speaker 1: tier pork chops. I'm even working with the veggie with
Speaker 1: the veggie ground beef. It's the first time I ever
Speaker 1: worked with it that I'm doing it on the TV
Speaker 1: show and I make it chilly with it, uh you know.
Speaker 1: And and then on top of that, I have some
Speaker 1: really great guests like watch Jazzy the comedian. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna go hold that for the next break. We can
Speaker 1: hold that for the next prepare. The great thing about
Speaker 1: it is that you're You're amazing. I'm a fan and
Speaker 1: I want to start this year posting if you don't
Speaker 1: mind posting some of your stuff on my Facebook. I
Speaker 1: got like almost I want to do that because I
Speaker 1: want to support you, my man. You know, I've been
Speaker 1: up there to your restaurant at the previous location. I
Speaker 1: love the food. I sent people to that location. I
Speaker 1: want to I'll be in New York February ninth, which
Speaker 1: is a Sunday. I'm gonna see if I can drop
Speaker 1: by if I have time, just you, I to be there.
Speaker 1: I just love going into your place and supporting you.
Speaker 1: You know. So again, we'll be right back with more
Speaker 1: of my man. He has a hot new TV show
Speaker 1: going into his second season called Just Eats with Chef
Speaker 1: JJ on TV one's network, Cleo TV. Right back, We'll
Speaker 1: be right back with more from Marsan McDonald and money
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Speaker 1: it's time you stop thinking about your dreams and put
Speaker 1: some plans into action. Hi, just ra Sean McDonald and
Speaker 1: you're listening to Money Making Conversation. I'm the host. We're
Speaker 1: talking to my man, Chef JJ. He has a hot
Speaker 1: news show going into his second season on TV one's network,
Speaker 1: Cleo TV. It's called Just Eats with Chef JJ and
Speaker 1: it premiers Saturday, February twenty second and twelve noon on
Speaker 1: Cleo TV. Now Chef before we went to the break,
Speaker 1: he's about to dive into these gas and we know
Speaker 1: the gas can be just exciting. This is the meal
Speaker 1: that you're cooking, so talk about something that gas like
Speaker 1: I said, Raheem Divine, who was my man? He's the
Speaker 1: same right. Divine was on there and uh, he's turning up.
Speaker 1: He was on the episode. We watch Jazzy and you
Speaker 1: know they was having some intimate conversations, you know, those
Speaker 1: things happening around food. She's she's she's a funny individual.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know watch Jazzy, but she's
Speaker 1: hilariously improv Yes, Leela James, you know My food had
Speaker 1: her humming, which was really great. You know for me,
Speaker 1: she's a icon. So uh and then you know we
Speaker 1: had to hear it from Love and Hip Hop. We
Speaker 1: had an Influenzer Ray holiday and Graze has always been
Speaker 1: a supporter of mine. Um and then then also this season,
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring some like um, you know, some
Speaker 1: some young talent that's really crushing it, uh in different
Speaker 1: parts of the industry. So he brought in this young
Speaker 1: lady tell some healthcare, facial products and hair products on
Speaker 1: natural out of the DC area. That's that. That's a
Speaker 1: that's an immigrant, right, A big, big story of a
Speaker 1: conversation in America today. So you know, also as we
Speaker 1: have some of the big guests, you know, we have
Speaker 1: some of the smaller guests have some really good stories
Speaker 1: that I think could relate to people that are that
Speaker 1: are watching the show. Well, you know, the thing about
Speaker 1: it is that you're a good conversationalist and that because
Speaker 1: it was really making me laugh when he was talking
Speaker 1: about making food live and then then you actually cooking it,
Speaker 1: because I know I've done some episodes on TV where
Speaker 1: I've had the bake live. You know, something that just
Speaker 1: do you know and then all of a sudden, I go, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know you can do for some reason, you can
Speaker 1: like hit the point or did I do that? Did
Speaker 1: I do that right? Did that do that right? Because
Speaker 1: you know people at home, they're watched he forgot that,
Speaker 1: he forgot the vanilla extract. What are you doing? He
Speaker 1: forgot the vanilla extract and so that is pressure, you know,
Speaker 1: to make sure that you know because sometimes when you
Speaker 1: when you cook something, you add a little extra salt
Speaker 1: or extra pepper or extra kanyane. Just get it right.
Speaker 1: But you know, some people don't want you tasting food
Speaker 1: and then putting a spoon back into the food on TV,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, so you have to really play
Speaker 1: it by ear and then hope for the best. So
Speaker 1: so I commend you, my brother, because I see your eyes.
Speaker 1: I see you going okay, okay, this is good. So
Speaker 1: so that that helps you to be on point on
Speaker 1: your game when you take the show's correct. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's a different flow when you're taking the show
Speaker 1: and you're cooking. So uh, definitely mental pressure. So when
Speaker 1: you see me, do do it? Or look up into
Speaker 1: the sky. You know, judgment, I'm not judging you. I'm
Speaker 1: really relating to your pains at that point creatively because
Speaker 1: I know that you know perfection. I know you understand
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know you're listeners when they started watching
Speaker 1: the show. Make sure they don't be judging up. Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1: Now let's shift gears and go to field trip. You know,
Speaker 1: the community based dining experiences celebrates cultures through the shared
Speaker 1: experience of rice. Okay, that's first of all the name
Speaker 1: of the restaurant, field trip, and then sharing the experience
Speaker 1: through rice. Let's start with the name field trip, the
Speaker 1: field trip and votes fund field us for all the
Speaker 1: rice fields tripped off, all the trips I've taken uh
Speaker 1: in my career. UH cooked in place like India, Singapore,
Speaker 1: Ghana in those places you then see in the right
Speaker 1: bowls that then invoke the flavors of those places. Okay.
Speaker 1: Now when you when you talk about casual dyning and
Speaker 1: then you talk how how what does the seed in capacity?
Speaker 1: Can I ask that to see you after the wall
Speaker 1: field trip is twenty seeded and then four high top
Speaker 1: tables that you can stand at. The plenty of space
Speaker 1: for a large group, small groups. We we we we
Speaker 1: love to see everybody. It's a place you can bring
Speaker 1: your kids, wheelchair acceptability, all the above. Now, what is
Speaker 1: the hours of operation. We're open Tuesday to Sunday eleven
Speaker 1: and nine, eleven and nine. So Tuesday through Sunday, you say,
Speaker 1: see there, do Sunday eleven am to nine pm, so
Speaker 1: I might be able to it might see me February night,
Speaker 1: coming in and grab a hit off. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: like I told you, JJ, you don't have to be there.
Speaker 1: I'm coming in and grab me something to go and
Speaker 1: hit on up to the Gordian and well you took
Speaker 1: care of me last time and so and it wasn't.
Speaker 1: And my whole thing is that I'm a foodie and
Speaker 1: I love food. And as soon as I eat, soon
Speaker 1: as I eat, I'm sure I'm gonna put this in
Speaker 1: my rushawn eats recommendation of restaurants, and that's on my website,
Speaker 1: on my social media, and that's because that's where it
Speaker 1: really is. Because food to me is a it's a culture,
Speaker 1: it's a it's an experience. And and when you have
Speaker 1: a gifted person like you chef J J J, who
Speaker 1: out there just just laying it down, man landed that
Speaker 1: putting down the food right, you know, and then then
Speaker 1: you then you're you're happy doing it because a lot
Speaker 1: of people you can watch some people that look like
Speaker 1: it's a job, but it doesn't look like a job
Speaker 1: to you. Talk about that, you know, I mean, look
Speaker 1: in this time and era, a lot of people want
Speaker 1: to be cooking on television, and um, I'm mistankful for
Speaker 1: it every day It's not something that anybody can get.
Speaker 1: And I think the hard work really has got me
Speaker 1: the opportunity to to be uh friends and family of
Speaker 1: Cleo TV and TV run now with the second season
Speaker 1: coming up, and you know, I worked really hard on
Speaker 1: something that I was never trained to do. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't go to acting school. I didn't do any
Speaker 1: of that stuff. So, um, this is this is new
Speaker 1: and uh, I have to work a lot harder and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, the key is just making sure I have funds,
Speaker 1: be entertaining and gives you food that you want to
Speaker 1: cook at home. Cool. Here's a quick question before I
Speaker 1: get I'm talking to Chef JJ. Uh starve the hit.
Speaker 1: Um it's a cooking entertainment show called Just Eats with
Speaker 1: Chef JJ on TV once network Cleo TV. It premiers
Speaker 1: season two does Saturday February twenty two at twelve New
Speaker 1: and Eastern UM as an encore that plays a TEMPM
Speaker 1: on that same channel. Uh. The great thing about you
Speaker 1: coming on my show it was something that I missed
Speaker 1: last time. It was a good miss because but I
Speaker 1: found at this time they said that you are the
Speaker 1: creator a buzz feed tasty. Is that correct? Well, I'm
Speaker 1: not the creator. I am a creator. Okay, we're called
Speaker 1: tasty creators and you create videos on buds feed tasty channel.
Speaker 1: So if you go to buds Fee Tasty you can
Speaker 1: see some of my videos on there as as one
Speaker 1: of the bunch feed creators. I called my tough Budsfee talent.
Speaker 1: They like to call me a creator, but I wish
Speaker 1: I created a bunksfe Tasty. Well, you know it was
Speaker 1: gonna be another conversation now as Yeah, I mean, you
Speaker 1: know you talk about you know, from from from a
Speaker 1: business standpoint. You know, my goal is that I have restaurants.
Speaker 1: You know, I have a television show or shows hopefully,
Speaker 1: and you know, as a chef now you're able to potentially,
Speaker 1: you know, drive in revenue in different ways than back
Speaker 1: in the past. Well, you know, the interesting thing about
Speaker 1: it just about just a quick business question. The show
Speaker 1: is done in the professional kitchen. Why didn't you do
Speaker 1: the show at your restaurant? You know, you need to
Speaker 1: have the right lighting, the right touches. There's just certain
Speaker 1: things of what you want in a in a in
Speaker 1: the uh in in a certain kitchen feeling. Um, and
Speaker 1: if I wouldn't shot to show my restaurant, I would
Speaker 1: have to shut it down for ten days, which was
Speaker 1: displaced my customer base, the people that truly supported me
Speaker 1: on a day to day base, and I didn't want
Speaker 1: to do that. Well, I can understand that because of
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, I was talking to my nephew.
Speaker 1: Here's a barbecue place, barbecue a food truck trailer in Houston, Texas,
Speaker 1: and he and I got him to own Kelly Clarkson
Speaker 1: Show today, and so he shut down his Yeah. Great, yeah,
Speaker 1: and they got him over there and they came to Houston.
Speaker 1: He's based in Houston, and so he shut down his
Speaker 1: restaurant it's a lower street location to take it over
Speaker 1: to a show that called him and go did you
Speaker 1: shut it down? I said, no, no, No, you can't
Speaker 1: ever do that because your customers think that you close.
Speaker 1: That's the bad news travel faster than good news. So
Speaker 1: you're not being there. That's a lot of bad news.
Speaker 1: I say, if you ever shut down like that, just
Speaker 1: put your other trailer there and put a limited menu.
Speaker 1: At least you rather serve a limited menu. Didn't come
Speaker 1: by to the way he's taping the class, which builds
Speaker 1: your brain, so I know exactly what you're talking about,
Speaker 1: because yeah, you know, it's a hard thing because like
Speaker 1: that Kelly Clarkson shows like a one time in a lifetime, right,
Speaker 1: You're so excited for that, but then at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, you want to make sure that there's
Speaker 1: you either let putting a message out about the restaurant
Speaker 1: to let people know that they can't come today or not.
Speaker 1: You know, I've learned that through my career. I used
Speaker 1: to say before all people would come back. People won't
Speaker 1: come back because don't feel so offended that you've displaced them.
Speaker 1: So um, that's why I keep the restaurant closed on Mondays. Now,
Speaker 1: that's our day. If we're gonna do TV things in
Speaker 1: the restaurant or shoot um or if people do want
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Speaker 1: E R dot Ai. My next Us is a former
Speaker 1: senior Vice president marketing for Atlantic Records. Now he is
Speaker 1: the president of Will Packer Productions and is responsible for developing,
Speaker 1: overseeing productions on all film projects through the company's first
Speaker 1: Look deal with Universal as a producer. His films that
Speaker 1: grows more than eight hundred million dollars at the box office. Today,
Speaker 1: he's on the show to Day to talk about his
Speaker 1: career and his new movie, The Photograph. Please welcome the
Speaker 1: money Making Conversations, my man, James Lopez Mashan, thanks for
Speaker 1: having me, brother, Well, well, thank you. I know you're
Speaker 1: busy because this promotion week, another movie, another another line
Speaker 1: of promotion. This is great. Got no wheels out there,
Speaker 1: so I see you getting out there a lot more
Speaker 1: promoting projects. Is that part of the growth of James Lopez. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been told several times in the past
Speaker 1: that I need to get out there a little bit more.
Speaker 1: You know. You know me, brother, I'm when it comes
Speaker 1: to promoting and publicity and doing the press. I like
Speaker 1: to stay behind the scenes and be quiet. But I've
Speaker 1: been told that I need to let the people know
Speaker 1: what I do and and uh that I definitely have
Speaker 1: an inspiring story to tell, and that uh you know
Speaker 1: that I provided an example for some folks. So I
Speaker 1: kind of have decided not to be as selfish. They
Speaker 1: talk about my story a little bit because it might
Speaker 1: be helpful. It really is helpful. That's what the format
Speaker 1: of money making conversation is all about. I started in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, uh, and it was supposed to only last
Speaker 1: six weeks. And then I realized that through the conversations
Speaker 1: and bringing a different type of people I had on
Speaker 1: the show and verst it was just people I know.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, now it's just individuals
Speaker 1: in the industry to realize so to positive uh, you know,
Speaker 1: format that allow them to tell their story. And also
Speaker 1: it's really about helping people. And when we talk about
Speaker 1: helping people, you know, I have to talk about my
Speaker 1: relationship with you, and you know you you and when
Speaker 1: I was with Steve Harvey, you know, you broke it
Speaker 1: our first ring tone deal. And I gotta say that
Speaker 1: because you know that was that was a skill that
Speaker 1: you have and had, you know, because I didn't know you,
Speaker 1: but you had a lickability and use a professional And
Speaker 1: I remember when Steve said, should we sign this deal?
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, yeah, James, James a little bit. I
Speaker 1: trust him. And for me to say that, it's a
Speaker 1: lot because that means that you understand the value of
Speaker 1: communicating the honesty of the deal and also the value
Speaker 1: of a relationship. I'm sure you've been told that a
Speaker 1: lot over the years. Correct, James. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: I've been told that that I'm a kind of a
Speaker 1: no nonsense type of guy, and I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people take my load to me, my my quiet. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: he's quiet, y'all. He is quiet. They take my quiet
Speaker 1: demeanor as a sign that maybe that I might be
Speaker 1: angry or maybe I'm not really trying to mess with folks.
Speaker 1: It's not that at all. It's it's that I'm constantly thinking.
Speaker 1: I'm constantly observing the room. And you know, I believe
Speaker 1: that if you don't have something additive to say in
Speaker 1: the moment, just don't say it. But when you do
Speaker 1: have something to say, it carries more weight. So that's
Speaker 1: just the way I operate in life. Um, And I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I admitted, Rashan, I'm a little bit socially
Speaker 1: awkward to you. That's why I quiet. Well tell you something, man,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been around your lot, you know. And
Speaker 1: and then because you know it was in the music business,
Speaker 1: so yet always are all this that's how we connected.
Speaker 1: And uh and that's when you told me he Rashwan
Speaker 1: t I making a lot of money on these rain tongs.
Speaker 1: Y'all probably want to look into that, and so you
Speaker 1: understood that that rain tongs are popular. Back there, there
Speaker 1: was a lot of way that it was a quick
Speaker 1: way just using your force and ring tones, and people
Speaker 1: were buying them. And then but of course all things change,
Speaker 1: and all things you have to make a transition. And
Speaker 1: at the time you use the senior vice president marketing
Speaker 1: for Atlantic Records. What did that job entail? Well, back then,
Speaker 1: you know, I was largely responsible for the urban roster
Speaker 1: of artists signed to Atlantic Records. So artists like t
Speaker 1: I Chat, Joe Fabulous, Trick, Daddy Trenim, M c Elliott, Sean,
Speaker 1: Paul Naview's little brother, and the list goes on on.
Speaker 1: So I was responsible for the imaging, packaging and bringing
Speaker 1: to market those artists, whether it be album packaging, whether
Speaker 1: it be promotional touring, put it together their stage show,
Speaker 1: award show performances, all the way up to like you know,
Speaker 1: music video productions. I was kind of like, um, what
Speaker 1: a quarterback in to a football team is what I
Speaker 1: was in the building Atlantic Records when it came to
Speaker 1: that particular artists, kind of like an in house manager.
Speaker 1: Yes I wasn't the artist manager, but I was the
Speaker 1: person most involved in their life and in that project
Speaker 1: within the company. Um and kind of like leading the
Speaker 1: company's charged to bring that album or that artist to
Speaker 1: the marketplace. That's what I was absolutely so. Then in
Speaker 1: your intro, I make this statement as a producer. As
Speaker 1: a producer, his films about his career, during his career
Speaker 1: have exceeded eight hundred million dollars at the box office. Now,
Speaker 1: that's from music to film, which we know, I can't
Speaker 1: say they're similar because they're different because once visual, you know,
Speaker 1: even though you might say music videos or visual, but
Speaker 1: that's not a movie or film. That's a beginning, middle
Speaker 1: of the end. That's casting, that's being at the right publicity,
Speaker 1: being at the right moment. How did you make that transition,
Speaker 1: because I remember you made it. I told Steve at
Speaker 1: the time, I said, my boy doing films now. And
Speaker 1: I really was happy because I know that that that
Speaker 1: you know, music was changing, you know, record stores were
Speaker 1: dying out, you know, yeah, a lot of more independent
Speaker 1: thought process was being put into how you released labels.
Speaker 1: Did you make a decision looking at the industry, or
Speaker 1: you said, hey, I really want to do film. It
Speaker 1: was it was a combination of both. To be honest
Speaker 1: with you, I'd always had the passion for film and television,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Rashaan. Early on in my life,
Speaker 1: in my career, I just didn't think it was possible
Speaker 1: for brothers to be honest, you know, like coming and
Speaker 1: I'm a boy from Houston, Texas and so like to
Speaker 1: be involved in film intelligion. There was no examples for
Speaker 1: us going up in Houston that there was no one
Speaker 1: I could point to and said you could do that.
Speaker 1: Like I knew obviously, we all know of actors and directors,
Speaker 1: um you know, like the Spike Leaves and John Singleton
Speaker 1: and you know, being in college and watching those guys
Speaker 1: do their things. But I knew I wasn't gonna be bad.
Speaker 1: I had no idea what the producer did. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that there were people behind the scenes, predominantly caucases,
Speaker 1: that were behind the movies. So I just took the
Speaker 1: natural route into music because there were several examples, uh
Speaker 1: that that we as black man could point to and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: well Russell Simmons did it, and this one did it
Speaker 1: and that one did it. I could do that. I
Speaker 1: could do that. But once I got into the music business,
Speaker 1: and got in and was more immersed in the culture
Speaker 1: of entertainment and meeting different types of executives and then
Speaker 1: getting involved in soundtracks. In the music business. I started
Speaker 1: interacting with studio executives and producers, and then I started
Speaker 1: to get exposed to the possibilities of where where I
Speaker 1: wanted my life to go. So it was it was
Speaker 1: in the mid two thousands, I would say, two thousand
Speaker 1: and four, two thousand and five when I consciously made
Speaker 1: the decision that this is what I want to do next,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna work my tail off to get there.
Speaker 1: Let me district in there. I remember you started telling
Speaker 1: me you were writing scripts at that time. Well, I
Speaker 1: was coming up with pitches and decks for ideas and
Speaker 1: when I look when I look back at them, they
Speaker 1: were terrible. But you had energy. You had energy that
Speaker 1: had I had the energy and what I was doing
Speaker 1: with conceptualizing projects as well. And that's that's where my
Speaker 1: strength lies, is coming up with concepts or or discussing
Speaker 1: with other creatives concepts, concepts for movies and then bringing
Speaker 1: them to the marketplace, figuring it out, you know, finding writers,
Speaker 1: finding a director, starting starting projects from scripts. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I made that decision in two thousand five, and it
Speaker 1: took me five years. It took me five years of networking,
Speaker 1: of reading tons and tons of scripts and kind of
Speaker 1: building my chops so that when I got the opportunity,
Speaker 1: I was ready and until five years later. Correct, correct, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was hired by a gentleman name Quinn Colepepper who
Speaker 1: gave me a shot. I had done a soundtrack at
Speaker 1: Screen James when I was in Atlantic, and that's how
Speaker 1: I do with my relationship with him. And then I
Speaker 1: got even closer to him on the set of Takers.
Speaker 1: Uh p. I introduced me to Quint again on the
Speaker 1: set of Takers, and that is the evening that I
Speaker 1: met Will for the first time. My mouth producing party.
Speaker 1: Now eight hundred million dollars when I say that, what
Speaker 1: runs through your mind at the box office? Um? Eight
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. Now here's a lesson for your listening audience.
Speaker 1: Box office numbers are great if you have a piece
Speaker 1: of ownership. I don't have a piece of ownership at
Speaker 1: any of that eight million dollars. That's what my movies made.
Speaker 1: I didn't own those movies, and studios owner those movies.
Speaker 1: When you got brothers like Tyler who owned their films
Speaker 1: and they get a majority of that dollar that comes back.
Speaker 1: For every single dollar that goes out, he's getting a
Speaker 1: large percent of that money coming back. And that's what
Speaker 1: we got to strive as people to work towards as
Speaker 1: the ownership. We are formidable, we are based when it
Speaker 1: comes to create a content and providing entertainment for the audiences.
Speaker 1: We create culture, but we have to start having a
Speaker 1: stake and ownership in that culture. And right now that
Speaker 1: is what Will and I are striving towards, is more
Speaker 1: ownership of our catalogs UM but you know none. Nevertheless,
Speaker 1: it is impressive that so many people have enjoyed our films,
Speaker 1: but we and well you know where the company is
Speaker 1: headed and building up that library of titles ownership or
Speaker 1: that library is a goal and also diversifying what we do. UM.
Speaker 1: The movie that's coming out this weekend, it is our
Speaker 1: first drama like it is a romance drama. It's not
Speaker 1: a romantic comedy, it's not a comedy, it's not a thriller.
Speaker 1: Is a straight up adult black love romance and that's
Speaker 1: something new for us as a company. And we're working
Speaker 1: hard to make sure that we diversify the types of
Speaker 1: movies that we're making so that we're not just eating
Speaker 1: off of comedy but offer everything. Right, I tell you,
Speaker 1: I'm talking to James Lopez. He's the president of Will
Speaker 1: Packer Production. Has a new movie out this weekend called
Speaker 1: The Photograph. We'll come back. We get more details because
Speaker 1: and had a movie out here like this, like says
Speaker 1: love Jones Born Loren stay kneel long. That's what he's
Speaker 1: talking about. Money Making Conversation. Be right back with more
Speaker 1: from Marsa McDonald. The money Making Conversations don't touch that dog.
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations continues online at www dot money Making
Speaker 1: Conversations dot com and follow money Making Conversations on Facebook, Twitter,
Speaker 1: and Instagram. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time you stop thinking
Speaker 1: about your dreams and put some plans into action. Hi,
Speaker 1: just ra Sean McDonald. You're listening to money Making Conversations.
Speaker 1: I'm talking to James Lopez. Long time, long time gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Met him when he was senior vice president marketing for
Speaker 1: Atlantic Records. Now he's um breaking down information about my listeners,
Speaker 1: about about the aut of the deal and being a
Speaker 1: bigger player in the deal. More importantly, he's on the
Speaker 1: show to day to talk about his new movie. Like
Speaker 1: he told before we went to break, he said, they've
Speaker 1: diversifying the portfolio, moving out of the comedy laden drama
Speaker 1: where they had so much success in to a romantic drama.
Speaker 1: What really pushed this envelope beside a great script and
Speaker 1: opportunity to diverse diversify your portfolio, I think the reason
Speaker 1: why we sparked to the photographs. First of all, I
Speaker 1: started off, yes, with a great script like Sella McGhee wrote,
Speaker 1: a beautiful project. Um, she is also a director of
Speaker 1: This is a very personal project for her and we
Speaker 1: wanted to jump on boards and help her fulfill her
Speaker 1: vision and bring the screen. So we're very proud of
Speaker 1: being a part of this. But um, we just felt
Speaker 1: like it's been such a long time since the core
Speaker 1: African American audience has received a love story. Um, and
Speaker 1: you mentioned Love Jones. You know that was twenty plus
Speaker 1: years ago. So we loven okay seven and you know,
Speaker 1: we we just felt like it was time to make
Speaker 1: another black love story that wasn't based around trauma. You know. Unfortunately, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of great films that are
Speaker 1: created and cater to the African American audience. But when
Speaker 1: it comes to love, there's always a betrayal or out
Speaker 1: of wed like child or somebody got killed, stalker. You
Speaker 1: know this is straight just two black folks loving each
Speaker 1: other or trying to figure out love. I just say.
Speaker 1: But it also is about generations. It's about UM gets
Speaker 1: to raise character who has just lost her mother and
Speaker 1: through a series of letters, is finding out more about
Speaker 1: the woman her mother was and the mistakes and love
Speaker 1: that her mother may have made, and to make sure
Speaker 1: that she's not going to repeat the same mistakes her
Speaker 1: mother made. So we are watching When you watch the film,
Speaker 1: you're watching two stories separated by thirty years. So it's
Speaker 1: about generational love as well. And it's a very movie
Speaker 1: and touching. UM. And you know, I think, uh, I
Speaker 1: think folks will enjoy it. It's a great date night.
Speaker 1: It's a perfect, perfect date that the movie is coming
Speaker 1: out on Valentine's Day. It's a long weekend, so you know,
Speaker 1: everyone listening to take your special someone to go check
Speaker 1: this out because you're gonna love it. And the music
Speaker 1: is phenomenal. Absolutely, Um, it has to be another another
Speaker 1: fellow Houston Natives, Robert glasp Uh, the score awesome. Congratulations.
Speaker 1: You know we get not that spread that way. You know.
Speaker 1: The beauty of listening to you talk, James. First of all,
Speaker 1: you sound just the same. You sound just as uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you give our information. Uh. That's what always
Speaker 1: impressed me about you is that you're informative and you
Speaker 1: and you really know how to hit all of the
Speaker 1: right deal points of the conversation. But one thing I
Speaker 1: always liked a boy, Will because when I did the
Speaker 1: first movie with him, I think like im and he
Speaker 1: always knew how to select talent that was on the
Speaker 1: rise about the pop. He was always good at that.
Speaker 1: You look at his movies. He always gets that talent
Speaker 1: right when it's about to because he does that really well.
Speaker 1: And like in that case, it was it was Kevin Hard.
Speaker 1: I knew about Kevin Hard, and I know when we
Speaker 1: sold the movie Steve and Steve Harving, I sold the
Speaker 1: movie to screen. James was just Clint and he was
Speaker 1: because I told Will know. At first I said, no, Will,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do the movie with you. And then
Speaker 1: he brought in Clinton and they came down to Dallas
Speaker 1: and we rode around on Steve's property, convinced me and hey,
Speaker 1: this is the right people, We got the right idea. Well,
Speaker 1: we will make this, make this be a winner. And
Speaker 1: then he said, I said, who goes, Who's gonna do
Speaker 1: the lead? He said, Karen Hard. I said, Kevin Hard.
Speaker 1: He said, Sean, He's he's about to break. Man, He's
Speaker 1: he's about to break. He's about to do that. And
Speaker 1: so I turned on. I look over the two stars
Speaker 1: that are at the top of your list here Sa
Speaker 1: Ray and the Ki Stanfield. Yeah, okay, now Stanford, let's
Speaker 1: could go back a little bit the Atlantic series. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's when I first discovered him. And I went and
Speaker 1: I was telling my friends, I said, this do right here,
Speaker 1: this dude is talented, this dude this funny. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know mckith thought, you know, he wasn't get out
Speaker 1: as well. Um, he was in Uncut Gems with Adam
Speaker 1: Sandler that that had a nice run a couple of
Speaker 1: months ago. Keith been mckith has been working, I mean
Speaker 1: who he has been working? I mean, but but all
Speaker 1: platforms though, all platforms. Oh, yes, yes, he has been working.
Speaker 1: And obviously you know he's used to used to raise
Speaker 1: the Queen, like you know, creating the show Insecure for
Speaker 1: HBO and all the things that she's been doing. Um.
Speaker 1: But we yeah, we we take pride on on, you know,
Speaker 1: making sure that in every one of our movies we have,
Speaker 1: um people who are about to pop or or or
Speaker 1: or have have recently come on the scene. In this
Speaker 1: particular one, I think you guys are gonna really enjoy
Speaker 1: an actress by the name of Chante Adams. She played
Speaker 1: Ray's mother in the past thirty years in the past.
Speaker 1: And when I tell you this girl put his work,
Speaker 1: her performance is amazing. Um. Your listeners may or may
Speaker 1: not know her from a Netflix movie on the rapper
Speaker 1: Rocksman Shante. It was a Netflix movie called Rockman Roxtan.
Speaker 1: Remember that chant played the Roxanne in that movie in
Speaker 1: that Netflix. Um, and she is just an incredible performer
Speaker 1: and she does such a beautiful job of a rack
Speaker 1: in this film. So let me ask you this. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you this because your producer on the movie.
Speaker 1: What exactly does a producer do on this especially this
Speaker 1: particular movie with the photograph. Well, I'll tell you my
Speaker 1: role in this one. Um. When when Will and I
Speaker 1: first started producing together, Um, before I joined the company.
Speaker 1: He took the meeting with Star regarding this particular project.
Speaker 1: She had not written it yet, it was just a treatment.
Speaker 1: And um. When I joined the company, which was like
Speaker 1: a year later, she had written the script and it
Speaker 1: was floating around town and uh, I've read it, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, we need to be doing
Speaker 1: this movie. This this could be this generation. And I said,
Speaker 1: word for it. This could be this generations, love Jones.
Speaker 1: We should be making this movie. So I go to Will,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I read the photograph. I know you took
Speaker 1: a meeting with her about a year ago, but you
Speaker 1: should read this script. It's really good. He read it,
Speaker 1: He was I agree. I said, we need to take
Speaker 1: this in the universal and fight for it and set
Speaker 1: it up. So we did. They brought the script and
Speaker 1: we spent the next year and a half and two
Speaker 1: years developing it from several drafts and got it to
Speaker 1: the point where we got the studio of the Green
Speaker 1: like this now. Um. So during that process and producer
Speaker 1: and working with the writer to hone in on the script,
Speaker 1: get it to the you know, get it, get it,
Speaker 1: addressing notes, getting it ready to share with cast. We
Speaker 1: talked about cast who's available in the time frame that
Speaker 1: we want to shoot the film. You know, who, who
Speaker 1: do we think would have the best chemistry. You go
Speaker 1: through that process. You know, I'm you know, I'm hiring
Speaker 1: a line producer who comes up with the schedule and budget.
Speaker 1: We're making decisions about where we're gonna shoot the film.
Speaker 1: You know, the New York plays a character in the film,
Speaker 1: so we you know that it was a filmmaker's vision
Speaker 1: to shoot the film in New York. Not a lot
Speaker 1: of films shoots here, um, and you know, so we
Speaker 1: won that. Then then it's about putting the crew together.
Speaker 1: You know, who's going to be the director of photography,
Speaker 1: who's going to be the cost and designer. You know
Speaker 1: who's going to be the production designer, who's gonna help
Speaker 1: cast the movie? The casting direct there, so we you know,
Speaker 1: you put all those people together, get them approve, get
Speaker 1: them on on the team, and you start building your
Speaker 1: crew to execute the script all the time while you're
Speaker 1: sharing the script with agents and managers to get the
Speaker 1: cast one. As you get through all that, you go
Speaker 1: into pre production. Pre production on this film was eight weeks,
Speaker 1: and in that eight week time period, you're scouting your
Speaker 1: building sets if needed. You know, the costume designer is
Speaker 1: showing options for the characters. You have your director, photography,
Speaker 1: who building their crew, their camera operators. With the lighting
Speaker 1: is gonna look like your story boarding shot. Listening, so
Speaker 1: much goes into it before you start, and then you're
Speaker 1: on set. We shot this movie over seven weeks six
Speaker 1: which we're in uh New York in one week in museum,
Speaker 1: and then you go into post production, which is a
Speaker 1: twenty two week period where you're editing your sound mixing.
Speaker 1: During that time period, our director she had expressed, um
Speaker 1: the desire to have Robert Glass for score the film.
Speaker 1: So without her knowing, I went off and got Robert Glass.
Speaker 1: You know, I got a whole of them. We had
Speaker 1: a meeting. I'm like, look with you ashtown boys do this.
Speaker 1: I took him to the studio. Robert had never scored
Speaker 1: a movie. Um, so I convinced the studio, hey give
Speaker 1: this brother, uh um, he's the world of now jazz musician.
Speaker 1: He could score it, he could score his music. He
Speaker 1: could score this film with his ice clos um. And
Speaker 1: then I, you know, once the studio approved, and then
Speaker 1: I haven't sit down with Sella and they worked out
Speaker 1: the vision for what she wanted the sound to be
Speaker 1: in this movie. Um, and now we're here that is
Speaker 1: producing my Man. That's a journey A lot of people
Speaker 1: needed to hear for the first time on my show
Speaker 1: because the shooting period is just seven weeks. You know,
Speaker 1: free was a post pre was eight and then post
Speaker 1: was twenty two. That was thirty weeks, and then there
Speaker 1: was almost two and a half years to get it
Speaker 1: approved right and when you first when you first walked
Speaker 1: through was introduced to it. She didn't even have a script.
Speaker 1: She said, she had her treatment, our concept. So so
Speaker 1: there's a lot of trust in that process to get
Speaker 1: to the point that we see the movie photograph. But
Speaker 1: I don't want to link on the process. A couple
Speaker 1: of there's more people in this movie my man courting
Speaker 1: to be advances in this movie where I love and
Speaker 1: even though there was a drama, you got my man.
Speaker 1: Little Real, who everybody knows from get out, one of
Speaker 1: the funniest comics, one that has a specialized last November
Speaker 1: that was outstanding called Little Real my Man. He plays
Speaker 1: mckith brother in this movie, and then uh and then
Speaker 1: and Lookeith. He's funny too, and so then you have
Speaker 1: Issa Ray who I saw a little and I became
Speaker 1: a bigger fan. I actually became a bigger fan of
Speaker 1: her in the movie Little that you guys also did
Speaker 1: and did very well at the box office. I think
Speaker 1: last May and uh and it's playing right now. If
Speaker 1: you don't know, it just goes to it's on pay
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Speaker 1: you when you see a movie like this being put
Speaker 1: out there, you still have a little touch of I
Speaker 1: think that you know you can you can bring You're
Speaker 1: not trying to do a comedy movie, but you do
Speaker 1: have guys who can bring that comedy moment just to
Speaker 1: break the ice. Correct, Yeah, correct, there's moments where you know,
Speaker 1: the audience, we break the ices. It's not a drama
Speaker 1: all the way through. Um. So every every once in
Speaker 1: a while you'll get a chuckle, you'll get a laugh
Speaker 1: in the right places. Um, but it does tug at
Speaker 1: the heartstrings another after I want to bring up who's
Speaker 1: in there. There's two of them actually, Um, Calvin Harris Jr.
Speaker 1: Who the audience may not be familiar with the name,
Speaker 1: but you are familiar with the face. He This young
Speaker 1: brother is I say, I feel it's going to be
Speaker 1: up for Academy Award one day. He is. He's done
Speaker 1: phenomenal work in so many other movies this past two years.
Speaker 1: But he's working literally nonstuff. I believe the photograph was
Speaker 1: its fifth movie that he shot in twenty nine nineteen. Sorry, Um,
Speaker 1: he did five movies last year. Um. He was in
Speaker 1: a movie called Ways, He's in another movie called Rise,
Speaker 1: in a movie called Loose opposite. Uh, I tell you
Speaker 1: miss Spencer. But he's just a phenomenally young actor. He's
Speaker 1: in the movie Jasmine sessas Jones within the movie, and
Speaker 1: so is my boy Rob Morgan. Right, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I don't know if you've seen Just Mercy, but
Speaker 1: Rob if y'all seen it, Robber was the one that
Speaker 1: went to the electric chair. Oh yeah, oh yeah, when
Speaker 1: they when when you were clanking all the the let
Speaker 1: him know that they were with him, Let him know
Speaker 1: he wasn't he was not down there by himself. It's
Speaker 1: a very good movie. There was a powerful moment that movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that brother has some powerful moments in our movie. U
Speaker 1: reading emotional uh moment. Well, you know my biggest takeaway
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Speaker 1: And then this movie again, the photograph. I want to
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Speaker 1: I followed him and he's followed by my success. And
Speaker 1: we were on the phone that they just talk about
Speaker 1: another great moment, a great moment in our lives where
Speaker 1: we're about to, you know, set a different pattern for
Speaker 1: what the movie could be. I know that they always
Speaker 1: project have they put a projection on what the box office?
Speaker 1: Maybe this weekend. Yeah, I don't even like to talk
Speaker 1: about it now. Don't talk about don't talk about it,
Speaker 1: don't talk about that, don't talk don't all. I don't
Speaker 1: wanted to do well, and I want I want our
Speaker 1: folks to come out and support and really talk about
Speaker 1: this film. And I on them walking out with a
Speaker 1: greater sense of love for who they're with, who they
Speaker 1: want to be with. But also I think a lesson
Speaker 1: that's learned from this film is we learned how to
Speaker 1: love from our parents. And when you watch this film
Speaker 1: and you're watching the Parallel Stories thirty years apart um,
Speaker 1: you know, we pick up a lot of positive things
Speaker 1: from our parents as well as negative. And we learned
Speaker 1: how to love because we've watched them love and that's
Speaker 1: what this movie're talking about. That's a beautiful the statement
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Speaker 1: all you couples out there, for all you people who
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Speaker 1: He's reaching fans across R and B, hip hop, gospel,
Speaker 1: urban contemporary platforms. He's garner recognition from the Grammys with nominations,
Speaker 1: delivered powerful performances on numerous stages from the BT Awards
Speaker 1: to American Island. He's on the show today to talk
Speaker 1: about many of his ventures, including the release of his
Speaker 1: new single, let Go Please. Welcome to Money Making Conversation
Speaker 1: for the very first time, three times Grammy nominated Artists,
Speaker 1: Songwriter and musician Molly Music's been going, Man, hey, they
Speaker 1: got I have to set you up. Man. You know
Speaker 1: when when you're on my show for the first time,
Speaker 1: I let you know I got love, I got respect
Speaker 1: for you, and I'm about to catch the love from
Speaker 1: the free throw line, Like, hey man, how you doing that?
Speaker 1: I'm done really good right now where you where you're
Speaker 1: sitting there talking to me? Talking to me at I'm
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles right now, cooling off and getting my
Speaker 1: bones rested back up from shooting a video yesterday and
Speaker 1: now with Jonathan mc renolds. Awesome, awesome, ye'all. I was
Speaker 1: in the l A. In fact, I was in like Friday.
Speaker 1: You know that I said it was still mourning the
Speaker 1: passing of Kobe. You know that it it was crazy,
Speaker 1: you know, just left and left. You know, it just stays.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's really crazy. Because you know, the busses
Speaker 1: in front of them to say rest in peace, Kobe.
Speaker 1: When you drive by every every every billboard is available
Speaker 1: that hasn't been bought. It's been flipped out to some
Speaker 1: type of commentary about what this young man did. And
Speaker 1: then when I you know, I only only bring that
Speaker 1: up because you move your music, and because I listened
Speaker 1: to your new cut let go, and then and then
Speaker 1: I went back and I stepped back and listened to
Speaker 1: some of your earlier cuts. And you you're a storyteller,
Speaker 1: but your your story is also tap into emotions that
Speaker 1: anything is possible, you know, And where did that come from?
Speaker 1: Because I looked at your background, your your Phoenix boy.
Speaker 1: You're born in Phoenix. Okay, that's that's hot hot dessert
Speaker 1: over there. And then you grew up in the in
Speaker 1: the Southern South. Good food Savannah, Georgia. Talk to me
Speaker 1: about that. Well, yeah, my mom being in the military
Speaker 1: and before. It's just a pleasure to be on the show.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I'm already such a fan. And
Speaker 1: all the cultivation and the fertilizing that you're bringing into
Speaker 1: the young and old minds, I really appreciate it. I'm
Speaker 1: glad to be a part of this. Thank you. Um
Speaker 1: but yeah, Phoenix, Arizona, and you know that on a
Speaker 1: flight straightway to my grandmother, uh great grandmother Rose Lax.
Speaker 1: And she had a church name Loving Faith. She operated
Speaker 1: under the Apostolic which I didn't really understand the depth
Speaker 1: of until really later. You know, because you have preachers, pastors, teachers, healers,
Speaker 1: you have many different sextions inside of it. But it's
Speaker 1: a gift and a rare thing when somebody embodies many
Speaker 1: of them with humility. That was a lady who kind
Speaker 1: of raised me and also who kind of broke me in,
Speaker 1: so she saw the gift in me early. I'm I'll
Speaker 1: tell the story to my family all the time. I'm
Speaker 1: six or seven years old, shaking in front of her
Speaker 1: congregation by her commanded me to come up there, and
Speaker 1: I'm crying and my sisters and cousins getting tired of
Speaker 1: like boy, just come on, and I'll cry and I'm
Speaker 1: looking at her like can I get down? And She'll
Speaker 1: say no, just say no, and then she'll give me
Speaker 1: the like like you ready, And I'll go into this
Speaker 1: song and I'll saying I still have joy, I still
Speaker 1: have joy? I said all the things I've been too
Speaker 1: still have joy and you know, and then I'll get finished,
Speaker 1: thinking that she'll be proud of It's just say sing
Speaker 1: it one more time with feeling. And I think that
Speaker 1: that's kind of what changed it, because by the time
Speaker 1: I wouldn't finish singing it again, I would open up
Speaker 1: my eyes and it wouldn't be a dry in the room.
Speaker 1: Mom won't be crying. Mom my sisters and my my
Speaker 1: cousins would be paying attention and proud of me, and
Speaker 1: there was something that would come out. So she just
Speaker 1: always taught me to get over that fear and let
Speaker 1: me know that it wasn't real. It wasn't gonna do
Speaker 1: nothing but stop me, and uh and and me breaking
Speaker 1: through that and singing was really good. My mom identified
Speaker 1: that gift early, and they cultivated it and caught it,
Speaker 1: caught it quick, and I was able to get busy early. Man. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, it's really interesting because I had a very
Speaker 1: early church experience. I was seven years old, and you know,
Speaker 1: they called me to the front of the church. You know,
Speaker 1: I remember the church, Sunlight Baptist Church. That's the church
Speaker 1: right at the corner, you know, because it's like trauma
Speaker 1: you know, they called me up there and and I
Speaker 1: couldn't sing, so I can only talk. And I remember
Speaker 1: I told him that, I just said, I want to
Speaker 1: be a place where you can change my life, because
Speaker 1: if you change my life, I can make somebody else
Speaker 1: life better. And then they went did this come from
Speaker 1: a seven year old boy? All? I was just speaking.
Speaker 1: I was just speaking. I was just speaking. And uh.
Speaker 1: But but like you, I didn't have mentors that kept
Speaker 1: me straight. You know, I just went out into the
Speaker 1: world just learning on the fly. And I learned on
Speaker 1: the fly and and and nothing wrong with the path
Speaker 1: that I've taken, because I've done nothing wrong. But but
Speaker 1: what I hear is your storytelling is these mentors, These
Speaker 1: these people who these important values that females put into
Speaker 1: your life. It gave you a soul or suftness to
Speaker 1: be able to share with us do music. Absolutely, and
Speaker 1: it was also a lesson inside of it too. You
Speaker 1: say mentors, I say like gatekeepers. And these are people
Speaker 1: who kind of helped me through, like um, get through
Speaker 1: certain access points. You know, I'm on top of it.
Speaker 1: There was was a vicarious blessing inside of me that
Speaker 1: they didn't want to see tainted thwarted exploited are are
Speaker 1: used negatively, so there was kind of responsibility on people
Speaker 1: around me to protect me. Um I guess in them too,
Speaker 1: especially with me doing it young, so they kind of
Speaker 1: took it upon themselves. The hard part was getting over
Speaker 1: and passed when that, when that security and council and
Speaker 1: mentor ship was done, when I was actually at the
Speaker 1: at the end of that, and that the cusps and
Speaker 1: the precipice of what was actually supposed to happen with me.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like everybody, if they're blessed, you get
Speaker 1: reared from like you know, going into school and when
Speaker 1: you graduate to twelfth grade, but then when you go
Speaker 1: on your own that's actually the beginning of your responses life.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. So all the all the
Speaker 1: things that you were saying were really good, but I
Speaker 1: never got nothing done and I never actually made no
Speaker 1: real money because those were the people who were actually
Speaker 1: the minds over it. So they were kind of caught
Speaker 1: the fish right before it fell into my mouth, you
Speaker 1: get what I mean. And the only thing I was
Speaker 1: getting at that time is what was dispensed to me.
Speaker 1: That right there made me very eager to get out
Speaker 1: there and learn the things that I needed to myself.
Speaker 1: That taught me the contractual information that I needed to
Speaker 1: know to find out why they were so drifting to
Speaker 1: do what they were doing, and to make more we
Speaker 1: couldn't operate in fear. You know, it's really interesting just
Speaker 1: hearing your voice and hearing that tone. And you know,
Speaker 1: because I like to listen to music, especially artists I've
Speaker 1: never heard before in the dark room, because I was
Speaker 1: like just being a dark space, because I don't want
Speaker 1: visuals to interfere with the lyrics, because it really people
Speaker 1: do that. They realized that, you know, music is really powerful,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, and and it moves me to tears,
Speaker 1: you know, it can move me to laughter, it can
Speaker 1: move me to understand. And and then I then I
Speaker 1: then I started going to your bio and I'm going
Speaker 1: your influences, Sam Cooking, your influences, oldest reading. I'm going like,
Speaker 1: what this young board, nobody, this, what this young board
Speaker 1: nobody that Molly music? What you know about old this?
Speaker 1: Come on now saying well, I always loved music, and
Speaker 1: and I was blessed to come up in like a
Speaker 1: hip hop era and um and also I was like
Speaker 1: classically influence on piano. So there was a version of
Speaker 1: my piano playing when my soul was just happy, when
Speaker 1: I'm out there slapping doing what I loaned. And then
Speaker 1: that was a version that came when I would be
Speaker 1: able to implement and showpin and different things that would
Speaker 1: give me techniques that would bring class and flare. Then
Speaker 1: church runs will start to sending, the jazz runs, and
Speaker 1: then art tatum would start to come out of it,
Speaker 1: and then there will be these different tones like so
Speaker 1: if I would do things on the piano, the people
Speaker 1: that would hear it mentors before we say, boy, you
Speaker 1: need to listen to this, And that's how I got
Speaker 1: turned onto it. But one of the biggest things was,
Speaker 1: like I said, coming up in the hip hop era,
Speaker 1: all of these samples, everything was sample crazy like, and
Speaker 1: I would be the one that will look and want
Speaker 1: to hear the original song. So I would. So there
Speaker 1: would these type of artists that would get simple consistently,
Speaker 1: and those would be the ones that went. That's how
Speaker 1: I got really big on James Brown, really big on
Speaker 1: Ray Charles, really big on Aretha Mahellia, you know, and
Speaker 1: just started going back. And then as I would look
Speaker 1: and compare, there will be no black singers that would
Speaker 1: have that type of electrifying sect for people now, and
Speaker 1: I wanted to replicate that in what I did. Well,
Speaker 1: you know the thing I love about, you know, not
Speaker 1: only the music, but the business side of these individuals.
Speaker 1: Raych Hall, you know right right right when you read
Speaker 1: this story and how he contin that's why they had
Speaker 1: to take him out. You get what I mean. He
Speaker 1: was right at the beginning of what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: push forward. You get what I'm saying. I understand what
Speaker 1: was going on, but you know, man, because you know
Speaker 1: they were dealing with racism, strong open racism, and the
Speaker 1: year these brothers going in there saying I gotta have this,
Speaker 1: I want my rights, I want my I want all
Speaker 1: back to me or that percentage isn't enough because they
Speaker 1: know they could just stop playing your music right there.
Speaker 1: You know, that's when Paola was blatant back then and
Speaker 1: then and then and to hear you I just got
Speaker 1: and what it excites musicid Rihan, I know about that.
Speaker 1: It's music, but I also know the business side of
Speaker 1: what you're about to talk about. That that part of me.
Speaker 1: Our relationship just started. Mr Music. Mr Music, eminem M
Speaker 1: just started brother because because you know, because your culture.
Speaker 1: You know the thing about my show, money making Conversation.
Speaker 1: I gotta talk to you. I gotta talk to you
Speaker 1: because of the fact that I got forty five and
Speaker 1: up on Lockdown. You know what I'm saying. But you're
Speaker 1: my future. You're the next twenty years. You're gonna change
Speaker 1: the face of music. The way we walk and where
Speaker 1: we talk, clothing styles, all those things are being accepted.
Speaker 1: Now they're crossing over. You're growing up in the era
Speaker 1: where you look on TV you see yourself. When I
Speaker 1: grew up, I had to see I didn't see myself.
Speaker 1: You know, you see yourself and now you see yourself
Speaker 1: with with with with with cross racial relationships in commercials
Speaker 1: and and mixed couples and commercials and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: So there's a journey you're gonna take with your music
Speaker 1: that's incredible. On the phone, I'm talking to a man
Speaker 1: who's reaching across all platforms. R and B, hip hop,
Speaker 1: gospel and urban contemporary. We'll be back to talk about
Speaker 1: this new single, Let go my man. Don't you go nowhere,
Speaker 1: and y'all don't go into where money making conversations be
Speaker 1: right back with my man Molly music. We'll be right
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Speaker 1: know this is a money making conversation. I'm your host
Speaker 1: with Sean McDonald. It's really great to get an artist on.
Speaker 1: You know, he was birthen of the hot deserts like
Speaker 1: a phoenix, he rolls up and he took him on
Speaker 1: over to get that little like like a good gumbo.
Speaker 1: Took him to Savannah to know, put some shrimp in
Speaker 1: there with him, put some oakre in there with us,
Speaker 1: some corn and and and put some some some shrimping
Speaker 1: that some people chicken in there, pump people crab legs
Speaker 1: and there, and they shaped the young man who came
Speaker 1: out of here with this storytelling the ability put him
Speaker 1: in front of the church when he's younger, and they said, hey,
Speaker 1: that's not come on, don't worry about those people. Give
Speaker 1: us what God can can deliver out of you right there,
Speaker 1: and it's set stage for you who you are today.
Speaker 1: And I have on my show telling them his side
Speaker 1: of the story because I can only describe. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a visual communicator, but you have the
Speaker 1: emotional you have the journey. Mr Music talked to us
Speaker 1: about why did you do the song this song let Go?
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm really excited about the song let Go.
Speaker 1: I feel like it is a necessary part UM. My
Speaker 1: last album, the transition of the music that I was
Speaker 1: released the end of two thousands Things, and Um I
Speaker 1: was really I was wanting to release another album once.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to in the circumstances I was in
Speaker 1: at the time. I was with Sony the Way of
Speaker 1: by Storm, with the Mark Pitts and and those guys
Speaker 1: over there whoever to help me with the initial album
Speaker 1: Molly is Um. But there was some understanding issues, or
Speaker 1: some release issues, or just some conflictual things that was
Speaker 1: going on that I didn't want to destroy my career,
Speaker 1: on my future, on my opportunity. There was some love
Speaker 1: and some understanding there too, so we had to do
Speaker 1: some things I had to let go there That turned
Speaker 1: into a lot of business and you know, legal stuff
Speaker 1: that was going on. And as I was coming out UM,
Speaker 1: I recognized in order to get back into the groove,
Speaker 1: I needed to heal first. I needed to extract all
Speaker 1: the things that I had UM brought in to get
Speaker 1: where I us. For example, we may see a movie
Speaker 1: where there's a person who goes to war and and
Speaker 1: there's a mindset or a level of uh, just a
Speaker 1: heightened attention spand that they need for their own lives
Speaker 1: to keeping their head on the swivel in a sense.
Speaker 1: But once you come back to a place of peace,
Speaker 1: you have to relearn and readapt peace techniques and and
Speaker 1: you know, not not fixing your guard, not sharpening your sword,
Speaker 1: not looking over your shoulder recognizing that it's there. So
Speaker 1: the let go represents that Um, the fact that you know, Molly,
Speaker 1: you're out. You know you've made it. God has given
Speaker 1: you success. Don't be Um. You don't be a prisoner
Speaker 1: in your mind, even though you were casting into prison.
Speaker 1: You know, don't be um murderer in your mind, even
Speaker 1: though God gave you, you know, the head of your enemies.
Speaker 1: You know, for you to get to where you are.
Speaker 1: You know, don't be um. Anything negative inside of your
Speaker 1: mind got equipped you to get where you are now,
Speaker 1: assigning for you to shake those things off and stand
Speaker 1: as a king and champion and the representation that God
Speaker 1: will have me to be. In order to do that,
Speaker 1: I had to be honest about the things that I
Speaker 1: had accumulated going up. And it was just very candid
Speaker 1: and cool, like in the verse I say, it's just
Speaker 1: the force of the habit. It's right in my way,
Speaker 1: so I grab it. It's right in my way, so
Speaker 1: I passed. It's right at the boss saw a glass.
Speaker 1: It It's a classic attack, like an attic all of
Speaker 1: the time. I gotta have it. It's right in my
Speaker 1: way as I passed, you know, and I talked about
Speaker 1: all of the temptations and all of the reasons why
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to go forward. But it luckily and
Speaker 1: beautifully lands in the phrase right to the altar to
Speaker 1: cast it on the shoulders of my Lord. And like
Speaker 1: all things, that's where I find deliverance. And I believe
Speaker 1: that all people can get a chance to be set free,
Speaker 1: because you can't make any money making decisions with bad
Speaker 1: things on your mind, especially like guilt, anxiety, haste, I fear.
Speaker 1: Got to be clear headed. You know, it's really great
Speaker 1: here in your the honesty and of your tone. You know.
Speaker 1: I I'm you know, Steve Harry and I started to
Speaker 1: a radio hip hop and R and B in Houston, Houston,
Speaker 1: Los Angeles in two thousands and uh. We've met many
Speaker 1: artists over the years, and and so one of the
Speaker 1: key artists that we met early on was Anthony Hamilton.
Speaker 1: Another storytelling another story Charlene is one of my all
Speaker 1: time great songs, my one of my favorites absolutely, and
Speaker 1: then move forward and my money making conversation platform. I've
Speaker 1: come to be introduced to my man, Travis Green, and
Speaker 1: then my boy looked crazy, you know, so to see
Speaker 1: see see, that's that's you, my man, in the sense
Speaker 1: that y'all coming forward music that's taking the older generation
Speaker 1: and bringing us down, you know, bringing us down, you know,
Speaker 1: because what happens is we got to accept the fact
Speaker 1: we can't keep listening to old music. We can't listen
Speaker 1: to keep listening to old jay's and it's hard not
Speaker 1: to keep listening to Now this is what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: is that because they won't allow them make any new music.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Uh, you know they won't.
Speaker 1: They won't, they won't. The industry plays it like that,
Speaker 1: you know, they go, hey, you can't make no more
Speaker 1: music you want. They'll tell you don't know what, I
Speaker 1: want to listen to your music. We will keep playing
Speaker 1: your old music. And so so when we have tality
Speaker 1: individuals like yourself and I mentioned some earth but just
Speaker 1: interviewers about you know that your journey is important because
Speaker 1: it provides a support system for somebody like me to
Speaker 1: continue to enjoy new music, continue to be emotionally attached
Speaker 1: to something that can motivate me and get me out
Speaker 1: of my bed. M I think about UM to communicate
Speaker 1: to that as well. If there's somebody that's left out,
Speaker 1: then I don't know if you did a good enough
Speaker 1: job in the music. So there's a song on my
Speaker 1: album called Molly. On the album Molly is called heavy
Speaker 1: Love that really I feel resonates with all the generations,
Speaker 1: just from the first note, the first flap to the end.
Speaker 1: I feel, you know, from Age to Age of Gold
Speaker 1: is another song of that name, Beautiful, and I feel
Speaker 1: that's the same thing, and I look to do a
Speaker 1: lot of those um you know, tell those stories. It's
Speaker 1: a song on the transition of Molly name. You should
Speaker 1: sit down for this, which is what came out of
Speaker 1: me in the studio in London when I got the
Speaker 1: phone call that I lost my father from the doctor
Speaker 1: and it was a really cool moment and I was
Speaker 1: just linking with Anthony Hamilton's on Grammy Weeks. I went
Speaker 1: up to the c a a party has a difficulty
Speaker 1: at the door, and he the one that got me in,
Speaker 1: so you know, it's really cool that you would say that,
Speaker 1: and to speak to the honesty coming from coming from
Speaker 1: the church and coming from the heart of love. I
Speaker 1: always looked forward to meeting a person that probably would
Speaker 1: come at living for God like I'm doing now. I
Speaker 1: guess I always look to do it, but I never
Speaker 1: saw it. I always would see people take the responsibility
Speaker 1: to dress God up. They would take they would think
Speaker 1: that He would be not good, so they would put
Speaker 1: a tie on it or or put a wash rag
Speaker 1: on the things that I would want to see on
Speaker 1: them to be able to identify with them, which would
Speaker 1: give God more glory. So instead of going forward and
Speaker 1: living a double life, they the God categorized me as
Speaker 1: an R and B or hip hop or slash neo
Speaker 1: gospel somebody not just gospel, just because I will not
Speaker 1: succumb to leading mebons of people to believe that I
Speaker 1: live with life that I do not, or or that
Speaker 1: I'm interested in things that I am not or are
Speaker 1: not interested in things. So it's not about that. To
Speaker 1: God be the glory. And I trust that God is
Speaker 1: big enough to get the glory and he doesn't need
Speaker 1: me lying to get bold so his goodness, if it
Speaker 1: works on me, then it can work on other people.
Speaker 1: And his goodness, it's gonna work on my bad He's
Speaker 1: gonna fix my my my hurt. He's gonna he's gonna
Speaker 1: bring um, he's gonna heal my my pains, He's gonna
Speaker 1: heal my mind. In order faim to be the same
Speaker 1: instrumental God that he is in everyone else's life, I
Speaker 1: need to have my own version of anxiety, my own
Speaker 1: versions of fears, my own versions of hesitations. And once
Speaker 1: I bring them to him, and he can not only
Speaker 1: be a good God in my mouth, but a good
Speaker 1: God in my life. I can have receipts from the
Speaker 1: time for me yielding to him recently, like I just
Speaker 1: got off my knees about this and he answered it.
Speaker 1: That couple with wealth and success is unstoppable. Love it.
Speaker 1: Love it. Now you are. I'm on the phone with
Speaker 1: a man he's influenced by Sam Cook and others reading
Speaker 1: us three time Grammy nominated Artists, Songwriting Musician. And now
Speaker 1: let's talk about the because we kind of dipped in
Speaker 1: a little bit. We was talking about what Dame James
Speaker 1: Brown was doing and Sam Cook was down in Rachel
Speaker 1: and many other artists use the CEO of your own
Speaker 1: business or care Pass enterprises. Tell me why you started
Speaker 1: that and what is the focus of your business. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about care Food because it's a dream
Speaker 1: come true for me. I was the young boy getting
Speaker 1: in trouble at school for doodling my production company symbol
Speaker 1: when I'm supposed to be taking spelling class notes or something.
Speaker 1: So I always was anticipating being a house that could
Speaker 1: deliver a specific type of content to the world. As
Speaker 1: I was coming up, I had to recognize that I
Speaker 1: was willing to partner and move and negotiate things, and
Speaker 1: you know where, I would be lending portions of percentages
Speaker 1: of myself to partners and companies in order to get
Speaker 1: an opportunity to advance. But if you offer a good portion,
Speaker 1: it could be very difficult to get off of that. So, um,
Speaker 1: I never intended on being an artist, but I was
Speaker 1: glad to open up my mouth to be able to
Speaker 1: show my colleagues and other artists who were scared that
Speaker 1: it could actually happen. So I just kind of was
Speaker 1: the brave one when the more talented people were just
Speaker 1: more afraid. So I'm like, man, if you just do this,
Speaker 1: and I would do it and it will happen. So
Speaker 1: that so bravery and or just confidence you know that
Speaker 1: what you have is good is a is a big
Speaker 1: deal as well. But artists like my sister and KP
Speaker 1: and people who are come in contact with Christian Mason,
Speaker 1: Angelina a re Artists like Travis Green who who would
Speaker 1: be coming up under the two religit mentoring of what
Speaker 1: we would be doing in Savannah, Georgia as well, John
Speaker 1: Den mc reynolds as we would be touring in Chicago,
Speaker 1: Tousha Cobbs who would be connected with us in the
Speaker 1: of what we were doing. Dion Kipping who would be
Speaker 1: connected inside of the surge of what we're doing. He
Speaker 1: was the first person that traveled me from Savannah, Georgia
Speaker 1: and my full band up to his surprise birthday party
Speaker 1: in Connecticut, where I meant youthful praise and and those
Speaker 1: guys and I just started to trickle up to Hezekaya Walker,
Speaker 1: Donna Lawrence. My life just completely changed, you know, just
Speaker 1: from this honesty and this walk. So I'm excited about
Speaker 1: all of it and just really want to encourage everybody
Speaker 1: to get to that point of openness and forwardness inside
Speaker 1: of what they're doing. But there was only so much
Speaker 1: that I could do because I did not earn enough
Speaker 1: to be able to impact my own life to be
Speaker 1: able to help anyone else. So I had to find
Speaker 1: out where the money was going. Why was I are
Speaker 1: you able to companies? How did I accumulate wealth? And
Speaker 1: could I apply that to my own self? Once I
Speaker 1: recognized that I could, I needed to attain ownership a
Speaker 1: game of what it was that was achieving Landing was
Speaker 1: for me clear the name you know now, I put
Speaker 1: it inside of a house. That house as K Approved,
Speaker 1: I will be flagshipping as Molley Music. But it's not
Speaker 1: about me. It's proof that we can do it. And
Speaker 1: there's a way that my colleagues and partners and artists
Speaker 1: and creators can come that we can kind of shortcut
Speaker 1: a lot of the roundabout ways of searching for the
Speaker 1: right place. If it's urban, beautiful, inspired by God, spirit breathed,
Speaker 1: and you have a plan, we can do something with it.
Speaker 1: And that's why I built K Approved to be able
Speaker 1: to to create another developmental area where people could be
Speaker 1: uh recorded, put out, have an opportunity to make mistakes
Speaker 1: in the community of people of love that loved them,
Speaker 1: and we can create successful uh artists that do different
Speaker 1: types of music, creators that do different types of visuals,
Speaker 1: and photographers who shoot different types of pictures. I can't
Speaker 1: change the culture if I can't influence it, and I
Speaker 1: needed to influence it from my house that I owned awesome.
Speaker 1: All I know is this my friend. You're special. I got,
Speaker 1: like you said with Sean Gotta, I gotta do my homework.
Speaker 1: I gotta go back to Molly Is. I gotta listen
Speaker 1: to Beautiful, Gotta listen to Heavy Love, Gotta listen to
Speaker 1: Walking Shoes, Gotta listen to Yalty, gotta listen to Johnny
Speaker 1: and Donna. I gotta listen to I Believe because what
Speaker 1: you will not do to me Molly, Mr Molly Music.
Speaker 1: It's come on my show next time, and I can't
Speaker 1: break down some lyrics to you during the end. If
Speaker 1: you let you know I believe in you, and I
Speaker 1: let you know how much I believe in you. I
Speaker 1: said some names to you by artists that you just
Speaker 1: threw back at me, So I know that's how I
Speaker 1: know that it was right. Then the same flow let
Speaker 1: go is out all the digital streams Molly music, My man,
Speaker 1: I'm calling you my nephew, young and nephew. Whenever you
Speaker 1: need you come on my show because it's for real.
Speaker 1: It's for real about you. And don't you change? Don't you?
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Speaker 1: AD Council. My next guest is from Flint, Michigan. Yes,
Speaker 1: Sir Ree is a two time w BC super middleweight
Speaker 1: champion and activists of philanthropists, sports analysts with Fox Sports,
Speaker 1: and the epitome of a champion whether he is inside
Speaker 1: or outside of a boxing ring. They also tell me
Speaker 1: that he makes a mean sweep potato pie. Really okay,
Speaker 1: let's hear about that. He's talking to the baking expurp
Speaker 1: please walking to money making conversation, my man, Anthony Durrell.
Speaker 1: How you guys doing now? How they're gona how they're
Speaker 1: gonna put a mean sweepertato in your credit And I
Speaker 1: don't see those sweepertato in your I can do it.
Speaker 1: If you could do it, I got my grandma rest. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's all you can do is just to sweepertato pie.
Speaker 1: Can you do it? You know I can cook up.
Speaker 1: My mama raised me to be a uh independent guy. Okay.
Speaker 1: My mom and my grandfather. You know, I went to
Speaker 1: little with my grandfather when I was like thirteen. I
Speaker 1: think he took us over because my mom, you know,
Speaker 1: we had six we had I got five brothers and
Speaker 1: sisters and six kids for her was a lot lot.
Speaker 1: And I understood, you know why we did that. Just
Speaker 1: being around the ladies in my family, my grandmother, my
Speaker 1: my mom, sisters, hunts. You know, I learned, you know,
Speaker 1: all I gotta do is watch. If I watch, I
Speaker 1: can learn how to cook. My uncle can cook. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know a guy in my family that can't.
Speaker 1: So I cook it all. So I went, it's almost
Speaker 1: kind of like you know, you said, you know, you're
Speaker 1: kind of bragging here in front of me. We're nothing
Speaker 1: in your hands, like listen, I was, So I went
Speaker 1: to camp one time. It was Thanksgiving time, and like
Speaker 1: I wanted foods, so I cooked some sweet potatoes. The
Speaker 1: only thing I didn't cook with the turkey. You know
Speaker 1: I usually cook at turkey. I cooked the sweet potatoes,
Speaker 1: I cooked the greens. Yeah for sure I couldn't. So,
Speaker 1: you know, because I know a lot of people use
Speaker 1: that can stuff that ain't what I do. What kind
Speaker 1: of meat you put in that's just a smoked turkey.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a bacon guy. I mean, you know you
Speaker 1: can do that too. You know you can do that too,
Speaker 1: but that smoked turkey give it that smoke taste. So
Speaker 1: my mama told me that, like you said, you she
Speaker 1: shaped you to be an independent man. And but your
Speaker 1: whole life is tied to being independent, being yourself, following
Speaker 1: your voice. Tell me a little bit about who you are,
Speaker 1: Anthony Durrell. I'm a I'm a professional fighter. You know,
Speaker 1: that's not what I want to I want to be known.
Speaker 1: That's just the helper, you know, somebody that goes out
Speaker 1: there to help people, you know, especially before you is
Speaker 1: a professional fighter. I'm a boxer. I I've been doing
Speaker 1: this since I was nine years old, So that's really
Speaker 1: you know what people think, I just know, but I
Speaker 1: love boxing, boxing, what is my life? You know, that's
Speaker 1: how you know I got to the position that I'm
Speaker 1: in and I'm grateful for my grandfather got me in
Speaker 1: when I was like I say, nine, and I'm just
Speaker 1: so happy that to be in this position, I had
Speaker 1: to fight for everything. You know, when I lost the
Speaker 1: world tighter to when I got it back then just
Speaker 1: lost it again. But you know, good things and how
Speaker 1: do you deal with those highs and lows? As Because
Speaker 1: my show Money Making Conversation tells people about overcoming the
Speaker 1: odds that you know, you have to have a plan
Speaker 1: when you get knocked out and to come just sit
Speaker 1: back up or walk straight when people think you should
Speaker 1: be you're running. You just you just have to keep
Speaker 1: you have to believe it in your mind that you
Speaker 1: know you can keep moving forward. A loss is just
Speaker 1: something to get you to the next step. Everybody takes
Speaker 1: a loss. Of the grades took a loss, absolute Mohammed
Speaker 1: Ali took a loss. And that's not even it. If
Speaker 1: you look at the successful business owner, they took a
Speaker 1: loss and some time, but they still persevered and got
Speaker 1: past that that that hurdle, that was in front of
Speaker 1: them and then succeeded to be million or a billionaires.
Speaker 1: I only put boxing glows on one time in middle
Speaker 1: school when out there swinging, I did my forces for
Speaker 1: swings and my arm just dropped to my sides. I
Speaker 1: couldn't pull them up no more. That let me know
Speaker 1: that this is not what I what you can do.
Speaker 1: It's not easy. It's not easy, but but you you
Speaker 1: make it look easy. Is that just okay? Nine years old,
Speaker 1: you put on the gloves. How much did they weight?
Speaker 1: They were? Uh, that's that's pretty heavy because you're swinging,
Speaker 1: and I learned that when you miss, it takes a
Speaker 1: lot more out of you. It definitely does, definitely does.
Speaker 1: It's it's you know, I've been doing it for twenty
Speaker 1: six years, so since I was nine years old. Thirty
Speaker 1: five now, so twenty six years. It's it's a long time,
Speaker 1: specially give use of something. You know. I can't if
Speaker 1: I go play basketball, I can't compete with a guy
Speaker 1: who've been doing it twenty six years. I just you know,
Speaker 1: I'm picking. I know how to do it, but I'm
Speaker 1: not as good as that person. So when somebody perfect
Speaker 1: their craft, you know, it's it's tough to get them
Speaker 1: out or it's you know, it's easier for that guy
Speaker 1: too to keep going. Like I can go into the
Speaker 1: ring now me not throw a punch since my last
Speaker 1: fight and still go probably in rounds. Just knowing how
Speaker 1: to get through the process. The technique that too, and
Speaker 1: and you know, you gotta know how to conserve. You
Speaker 1: gotta make that fighter on the other side think that
Speaker 1: you're not tired or something that's coming if you come in.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just it's just stuff. Like it's just
Speaker 1: little things. If you do the little things, and this
Speaker 1: is not just boxing and anything, you can get fired.
Speaker 1: The little things matter. It's not the big things that
Speaker 1: everybody sees. The little thing. Well, it's really interesting because
Speaker 1: I'm talking to you and you know your you know
Speaker 1: your strength and weaknesses, and your opponent knows your strength
Speaker 1: and weakness, and I know somethime. Okay, good like that?
Speaker 1: Like that now, because and you use the analogy about
Speaker 1: business a lot too, and in your sports and about
Speaker 1: overcoming the odds, about knowing how to market yourself, knowing
Speaker 1: how to prepare, knowing how they and even business people
Speaker 1: make mistakes. Nobody has a perfect business No, Apple has
Speaker 1: not put out a product that walked off the stores.
Speaker 1: That's why they keep coming off phones every year. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: And so with that being said, you as an individual, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we all know with athleticism, is you know
Speaker 1: the biggest champion or that you have to fight this age?
Speaker 1: Does that? Does that work in your mind? I have
Speaker 1: that that that's setting your mind. That are You've already
Speaker 1: prepared to say, Hey, I'm going to do this. So
Speaker 1: I'm planning to do this with my life when I'm
Speaker 1: for the fifty sixty or whatever. So my plan when
Speaker 1: I when professional to retire at thirty five, I'm thirty five.
Speaker 1: Now I lost my I lost my last fight. But
Speaker 1: me being the competitor that I am, I can't go
Speaker 1: out on the loss and I have to I want
Speaker 1: another fight. If the championship fight comes this year, it comes,
Speaker 1: but after this year, I'm done. And I already have
Speaker 1: my mind made up of what I wanna do. I
Speaker 1: want to I want to start multiple business, not just one.
Speaker 1: And I want to push other people and motivate other
Speaker 1: people to do the same. You know, when they retire,
Speaker 1: like in athletics, in any sport, I think it should
Speaker 1: be mandatory that you take a class on how to
Speaker 1: manage your money because because there there there's no help
Speaker 1: like you give these kids. And I when I say kids,
Speaker 1: it's kids. It's nineteen and twenty year olds, millions and
Speaker 1: millions of dollars. They only can do one thing, but
Speaker 1: that's spending because they didn't go to school or don't
Speaker 1: have nobody with them to show them the correct way
Speaker 1: to go. If I can take if I can go
Speaker 1: back to my beginning of my career right now, I
Speaker 1: would invest in so much more than I am now
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't even need I wouldn't need to do
Speaker 1: nothing else for the rest of my life. And we
Speaker 1: have to admit we all and I was in I
Speaker 1: was a mortal, you know, and that I forty seemed
Speaker 1: so far away, you know, It's like it's not ridiculous
Speaker 1: how far away forty was that that number wouldn't even
Speaker 1: exist here, you know. So so we play on the
Speaker 1: on time because we see time as okay, I have
Speaker 1: end this time. We're thinking you're gonna do something forever
Speaker 1: and you're not right, and that's what that's what you've done.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get that next And with the athletes like
Speaker 1: you live like, oh, I got a meant to come back,
Speaker 1: but if you get hurt, that's gone. So you gotta
Speaker 1: have something to fall back on. And me being like
Speaker 1: you said, us being nineteen and twenty years so we
Speaker 1: didn't think of that then we thought we can get hurt,
Speaker 1: Oh we'll just come back. No, it's gonna you gotta
Speaker 1: put some money aside or rainy day. Yes, then that
Speaker 1: that's that's something that everybody can relate to who made
Speaker 1: a mistake or realize I should save that monem because
Speaker 1: it's as successful. That's I am. I would, man, I
Speaker 1: show I just started saving like that guy told me
Speaker 1: when I was twenty four, because he told me, he said, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: just fifty dollars every pai per and I kept saying
Speaker 1: fifty dollars, man, you know what I could do? I
Speaker 1: ain't got time for that. And if I don't just
Speaker 1: listen to him, that fifty dollars may have been a
Speaker 1: maybe an ib im stocked twenty times triple and guess
Speaker 1: what we would need to be talking right now. And
Speaker 1: I believe it. I believe, But that's where I think.
Speaker 1: You know, when you grow up, you learn so much
Speaker 1: more because you look back on the things that you
Speaker 1: did and reflect like if I would have did this,
Speaker 1: now I can do it, and I'm gonna go do
Speaker 1: it now, or give it to my kids or another
Speaker 1: kid that's coming up in the game, or just want
Speaker 1: to do the same thing that I'm doing. You know,
Speaker 1: you can teach them, you know, the correct way, if
Speaker 1: they listen or not, you can just put it in
Speaker 1: their ear. Well. You know the thing about it. One
Speaker 1: of the reason I wanted to bring us just like
Speaker 1: the third we kind of missed you came to town
Speaker 1: and because of the fact that you had setbacks in
Speaker 1: the early age and so and that's why I always
Speaker 1: tell people, you know, you don't know what your future.
Speaker 1: Even as a young person, you might seem like, hey,
Speaker 1: endless opportunities, but every every day you should feel an
Speaker 1: understand it's a blessing. Now I'm a cancer survivor. You know,
Speaker 1: I was diagnosed that I had cancer in my fifties
Speaker 1: and it was it was it was it was a
Speaker 1: major when they told me I had cancers, Like you know,
Speaker 1: it was. I'll tell people when somebody tell you have cancer,
Speaker 1: you you you don't understand what that word does to you.
Speaker 1: You know, you can walk around read about the newspaper.
Speaker 1: You can read about the statistics and people are surviving.
Speaker 1: But when they tell you you have it, that's a
Speaker 1: different conversation because you start thinking immediately death. You meediate,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't care what the stats are out
Speaker 1: there all you because for some reason, that's all you
Speaker 1: think about. Oh my god, it's all my loved ones.
Speaker 1: I want to live a long time. How did you
Speaker 1: react to it, Anthony? So when I had it, I
Speaker 1: was it was two thousand six, so I think I
Speaker 1: was twenty one. Uh. I didn't really know much about it,
Speaker 1: honestly true. And when I started reading up on it,
Speaker 1: that's when my I started getting down and down and down,
Speaker 1: because like you say, when you think of cancer, you
Speaker 1: think of death. I mean that's only that's true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's true. And when I went to the doctor,
Speaker 1: he said that it was a nine percent curable rate.
Speaker 1: Kind of brought me up, but that medicine still brought
Speaker 1: me down. Uh. It was. It was tough cancer. It's
Speaker 1: no joke, you know. I was talking to this. I've
Speaker 1: seen the kids smoking. Uh couldn't have been. I don't
Speaker 1: even think there was eighteen and I said, why you
Speaker 1: smoking because I know what cancer, I know what I
Speaker 1: know what chemo feels like. And they said it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna die. I was like, yeah, but that's not
Speaker 1: that's not it like when the chemo is just it's
Speaker 1: like it's just worse and death to me. And I
Speaker 1: don't even know what death feels like, but it just
Speaker 1: seemed like it's worse. It just had me just down
Speaker 1: the time. His body wasn't feeling right. It just had
Speaker 1: me going through things that that was a challenge. Then
Speaker 1: you recover correct and then motorcycle without the twilt. So
Speaker 1: at you the point in your life on what that
Speaker 1: what's going on here? You know what, when I did
Speaker 1: get into the motorcycle accident, the first thing I thought
Speaker 1: about was just me living or walking again, just to
Speaker 1: play with my kids. Uh, that was the first thing.
Speaker 1: But when I knew that it will be okay, like
Speaker 1: I will recover fully it Uh you know what was damage?
Speaker 1: So I broke my leg So this finger was here,
Speaker 1: this one was here. I mean you can still see it.
Speaker 1: So your finger moving it cut on your left hand, Yep,
Speaker 1: it could from this thing. You know, my index fingers
Speaker 1: where my thumb was my thumb is where my risk
Speaker 1: so and they didn't even know at the time. Oh no,
Speaker 1: they knew about my hand. They didn't know about my
Speaker 1: leg my leg. I had my bones. They got my
Speaker 1: leg and they didn't they say there's anything else. So
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, my leg is broke. They cut my
Speaker 1: pants and I went into I think I was in
Speaker 1: surgery four hours maybe, so they got a ride and
Speaker 1: my leg is still in with your hand and my
Speaker 1: leg is broken. So you just dealing with the pain
Speaker 1: at that time. Yeah, I said, y'all gotta give me something,
Speaker 1: and then they hit me with the more. I just
Speaker 1: went into heaven like I could, and I was literally
Speaker 1: like when they say your life flashed before your eyes
Speaker 1: before death. Honestly, my life literally I've seen everything, Like
Speaker 1: this is no joke, but right before I hit that car,
Speaker 1: I've seen everything. Just I mean, it was like a
Speaker 1: split second, but everything. You can see it clearly. Everything.
Speaker 1: And then I hit the car. But I got up.
Speaker 1: I never blanked out. I got up, but I fell
Speaker 1: back down and my leg was broke. I got back
Speaker 1: up again because I didn't know what was wrong, and
Speaker 1: I fell back down. They said stay down, your leg, bro,
Speaker 1: But my leg was twisted in the back, so my
Speaker 1: my front, my foot was in the backwards and I
Speaker 1: had to flick it back or whatnot. But yeah, it
Speaker 1: was It was bad. But I think everything happens for
Speaker 1: a reason. You know, was I supposed to get that?
Speaker 1: Should I have been on the motorcycle? Don't know? But
Speaker 1: I was. You know, everything happens for a reason. I
Speaker 1: think it just makes you a better person, you know it.
Speaker 1: It makes your story better or your story strong. And
Speaker 1: and if I could take something back that in my
Speaker 1: life that happened, I will take I would change nothing,
Speaker 1: because everything happens for a reason. It molded me into
Speaker 1: who I know. Because when I hear you talk and
Speaker 1: I'm talking to two times world middleweight champion, super middleweight, super,
Speaker 1: they just put world. I was super. I put super
Speaker 1: right there, super middle super middleweight champion, Anthony Durill. You
Speaker 1: know I talked about, you know, my lung collapse, you know,
Speaker 1: stay in hospital thirty days. I'll talk about you know,
Speaker 1: I'm telling tires I probably shouldn't have been driving a car.
Speaker 1: And I woke up and I'm going I'm five miles
Speaker 1: down the road. Don't remember the five miles and I
Speaker 1: did and I don't even drink, just doing stuff, pushing
Speaker 1: myself physically where I shouldn't have not have pushed myself.
Speaker 1: And so so that's those are the stories I have
Speaker 1: to tell people that, Okay, what I did was stupid
Speaker 1: and I'm alive to tell you it was stupid. So
Speaker 1: that's my role that I played. So when I listened
Speaker 1: to I'm asking you to tell your story because of
Speaker 1: the fact that as we as young people who listened
Speaker 1: to my show, we put a time long lying on
Speaker 1: I wait, I do that later, and you really don't
Speaker 1: know what later is or what later can bring you.
Speaker 1: So when people talk about saving money, people talk about
Speaker 1: get that education, people talk about living your life, pursuing
Speaker 1: opportunities to be given to you and not realizing that
Speaker 1: blessing because you think you can wait. Your experience is
Speaker 1: being chronicle right now for us on this show says
Speaker 1: do it now, right, You have to live every day
Speaker 1: in that moment. I don't think because tomorrow is not promising.
Speaker 1: You know. We see that from Kobe Bryant and and
Speaker 1: and rest in peace to her and Condos. This goes
Speaker 1: out to his family, but we see that in that,
Speaker 1: but you have to live for the day. You can't
Speaker 1: live for tomorrow. You can't live for the week. You
Speaker 1: have to live for the day. And and that's the
Speaker 1: big thing. That's the thing I don't think you know,
Speaker 1: younger people uh understand about about life. It's life. You
Speaker 1: have to you have to live it in I think
Speaker 1: you live it. You know how you want to live it.
Speaker 1: You know you you you you do things that you
Speaker 1: want to do. If you don't explore this world or
Speaker 1: get out and get out your comfort zone, sometime it
Speaker 1: would be I mean, it's just be. It would be that.
Speaker 1: I know some people you know, from my city, Flint, Michigan,
Speaker 1: who haven't left Flint. We want to talk about that
Speaker 1: in the next break, because that's really why we have
Speaker 1: you on the show, because I wanted to be a
Speaker 1: part of that. You know, I got a lot too
Speaker 1: many people surrounded me from Flint, you know, Mama Soul,
Speaker 1: that's my girl out there, you know, And so just
Speaker 1: let you know how deep I go up there. Okay, Uh,
Speaker 1: now you said your titler is really uh two times
Speaker 1: super World mill super middleweight champion Anthony Durrell. We're right back.
Speaker 1: He's flisted missing and ball. We will come back and
Speaker 1: we'll talk about some causes. He's a you know, he
Speaker 1: got his own day up there and everything every year
Speaker 1: come around. He got this day in the ram day.
Speaker 1: Everybody know him up there. He's a bad man. He's
Speaker 1: a bad man. Be right back with more money Make conversations.
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Speaker 1: I'm sitting next to two times super middleweight champion Anthony
Speaker 1: Durrell out of flat Michigan. You still stay in flat
Speaker 1: Grand blank on the oscar. I still stay in Michigan. Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'll move when it when something feels right,
Speaker 1: you don't want to change to your whether. So I
Speaker 1: lived in Chicago five years. So I got closed and
Speaker 1: I got clothes I can't wear nowhere else but in Chicago,
Speaker 1: because you know it hits some snow yesterday before. But
Speaker 1: I was ready. I was ready. I got from ready,
Speaker 1: come up and they got with your brother, and you
Speaker 1: might be a lot more colder than that, being it's
Speaker 1: all right, But so why do you stay up there?
Speaker 1: Why is Michigan part of your just part of your
Speaker 1: your lifestock because you have the money and the success
Speaker 1: to live anywhere while you're why are you staying in Michigan?
Speaker 1: Just it feels right. You know, when something feels right,
Speaker 1: you you kind of stay put. But I can go anywhere.
Speaker 1: You know, I can vacation any Uh. When it starts
Speaker 1: feeling wrong, that's when you know I'll have to pack
Speaker 1: my things and move. But until then, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm I'm from Flint, you know that's I'm from Michigan.
Speaker 1: So that's where you know I'll be for I think
Speaker 1: the remainder of my life. Like I said, I can go,
Speaker 1: I can travel anywhere, and I think just other places,
Speaker 1: just vacations. You know, home is home. No matter where
Speaker 1: you're at, You're always going to think of where you
Speaker 1: was born and where you grew up. It's it's home.
Speaker 1: Nothing can beat beat home. You this um oh boxing
Speaker 1: you have you know you have UFC out there now,
Speaker 1: you know, and then you have a wrastling is always
Speaker 1: out there because in the end, boxing, like any football
Speaker 1: about it's entertainment. Yeah, it's entertainment. It's entertainment. So so
Speaker 1: do you consider yourself an ambassador a boxing as you
Speaker 1: as you as your career transition because you're doing Fox
Speaker 1: Fox Sports. You know, what story are you trying to
Speaker 1: tell about why boxing is not only a good sport
Speaker 1: for young people to get involved in, but also why
Speaker 1: it should be a highly rated entertainment sports. I think
Speaker 1: you know when you got two competitors in their boxing
Speaker 1: risking their life to entertain millions. Uh. And for me,
Speaker 1: it's a it's adrenaline rush, It's it's something that I
Speaker 1: love to do. I've been doing it, like I said,
Speaker 1: since I was nine. And uh, it's just and plus
Speaker 1: your family member. Yeah, I mean my grandfather, boxer Muhammad Ali.
Speaker 1: You know he was friends with them. Uh that's where
Speaker 1: we got into boxing and my grandfather so for us
Speaker 1: to do it, and it's to make him proud. He
Speaker 1: loves seeing us when he loves seeing us happy. If
Speaker 1: if I can just make him happy, I give all
Speaker 1: this to him because without him there will be no
Speaker 1: You gotta have the talent, though you do, but he
Speaker 1: got that talent out of us. And if you don't
Speaker 1: have somebody pushing you and getting it out of you,
Speaker 1: it just I don't see it work. You gotta have
Speaker 1: a backbone, and you got that backbone, everything will float, right.
Speaker 1: I mean he told he told me and my brother
Speaker 1: at a young age when we kind of first started,
Speaker 1: that will become world champions. And I'm a two time
Speaker 1: world champions, so what he said was true. It's really
Speaker 1: I always tell people we got to have the relationships
Speaker 1: that breathe positivity, you know, not negativity, because you know
Speaker 1: there are people out there you can tell them say
Speaker 1: you go up you ten years old, eleven years old
Speaker 1: and say hey I want to be or excuse makers. Yes,
Speaker 1: I called him. I could complain the club, you know,
Speaker 1: because when you come up with excuses all the time
Speaker 1: and you're not trying to look for solutions, you will
Speaker 1: never make it. It was just like Patrick Mahomes. He
Speaker 1: wrote that little note saying, Hey, I wish I could
Speaker 1: say that I was I went to Digneityland. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying the world when he was with sixteen, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and so that's why I always tell people that.
Speaker 1: And I like the thing that really stands out to me,
Speaker 1: you're so positive and I and I'm a positive person,
Speaker 1: but I know crisis has been in your life. When
Speaker 1: you're going the ring, that's a crisis situation. And I
Speaker 1: know people who you know, I don't like. I I know,
Speaker 1: I knew one person who it's paralyzed, probably for fifty
Speaker 1: dollars just because he was in the boxing ring. But
Speaker 1: multiple people died, like I think it was six or
Speaker 1: seven people died in their boxing last year. So it's tough,
Speaker 1: you know. And this is my first time witness not witnessing,
Speaker 1: but knowing that people died in the ring. You know,
Speaker 1: since I've been boxed, I've never heard of it. And
Speaker 1: I you know, when I think I'm thinking, like what
Speaker 1: went wrong? What happened? They yeah, Like I I really
Speaker 1: don't understand because everybody is doing the same thing. Or
Speaker 1: maybe they're just getting hit more. I don't know. But
Speaker 1: boxing is something that you have to, uh really pay
Speaker 1: attention to your corner. You have to have a good
Speaker 1: team around trust. Yes, you have to. Like my so
Speaker 1: my last fight, I was cut big over my eye.
Speaker 1: I couldn't see blood out of my eye, and I
Speaker 1: got one of them and my basketball, and the guy
Speaker 1: was kind of getting off because I couldn't see. I
Speaker 1: was worried about the cutting, said to worry about him.
Speaker 1: D hurt me some. No, but my corner knew that
Speaker 1: I was at a disadvantage anyway because of my cut
Speaker 1: and I couldn't see, so he stopped the fighting. Not
Speaker 1: it was I mad. I know, I would never be
Speaker 1: mad at that looking now for me, you know, when
Speaker 1: people don't know about that cut, because I, like I said,
Speaker 1: I got I hear the guy's head when I was
Speaker 1: playing basketball, and it's nothing but bone here. So when
Speaker 1: you cut his skin, a very thin layer of skin
Speaker 1: hidden bone. As soon as that bad ball opens up,
Speaker 1: it's just yeah, it's just blood everywhere. And so like
Speaker 1: I said, it's uh, you have to trust, like you say,
Speaker 1: and I say, you have to trust in your team.
Speaker 1: If you can't trust in your team, I think you
Speaker 1: probably need to find a new team because that that's
Speaker 1: where all the foundation comes in. That because they're on
Speaker 1: the outside looking in, and you can kind of see
Speaker 1: more from the outside than you can you know, when
Speaker 1: you're in there. Let's talk about Flint. You know, a
Speaker 1: few years ago a lot of controversy about the drinking water.
Speaker 1: Um as an individual who cares because you can't save everybody.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the initial announcement, then the travesty that
Speaker 1: was that was information that was made available to everybody,
Speaker 1: and then what you're attempting to do now, it's just
Speaker 1: the announcement. You know, we had lead in the water.
Speaker 1: That was a travesty and own for us, for the
Speaker 1: governor of Michigan to change the water from like it
Speaker 1: was a Detroit water to Flint River water. And I
Speaker 1: think that was bad because if you look at the
Speaker 1: Flint River water, it's it's bad. And I know they've
Speaker 1: got chemicals and stuff to change it. But when have
Speaker 1: lead pipes, and that's I think anywhere in any city
Speaker 1: and you put some type of chemical in it, it
Speaker 1: starts to rust and start to you know, get lead
Speaker 1: in it, and not only lead, but changing the color
Speaker 1: of the water, right, And we had that in ours.
Speaker 1: So we had to change. And he still thought it
Speaker 1: was okay to drink, but it wasn't. So we're going
Speaker 1: through that and still going through it to to this day,
Speaker 1: to the day So it's been had going on since
Speaker 1: April fourteen, two thousand fourteen. So that's a long time
Speaker 1: to not have clean drinking water in a city. Uh
Speaker 1: in America? Still, okay, help me. So you're saying the
Speaker 1: situation is though, so they not too long ago. I
Speaker 1: think I was in camp for my last fight. They
Speaker 1: sold the people to boil the water again. But they
Speaker 1: what they don't understand is boiling water will not make
Speaker 1: leg go away. Lead don't go away. You can't even
Speaker 1: really get a filter to filter off the legs still
Speaker 1: going to be there. You need to change the pipes.
Speaker 1: And and this is what I understand. Why wouldn't they
Speaker 1: give volunteers to come in and fix the pipes. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know it's all around you as volunteers would come
Speaker 1: in and fix these pipes without like if you put
Speaker 1: one word out there. And that's why I don't get
Speaker 1: about the president either to uh both of Well, it
Speaker 1: was when they came and had the the debate in Flint,
Speaker 1: they said they will do this and do that for Flint,
Speaker 1: and nothing still is done. So I think that's where
Speaker 1: and what is the governor saying? I don't even watch politicism.
Speaker 1: I'm so sick of them, honestly am because I don't
Speaker 1: think you can trust them, Like they give you one
Speaker 1: thing and and they do another, and that's all the time.
Speaker 1: I don't uh, I don't agree with the way they
Speaker 1: get into office. They feed you this fairy tale and
Speaker 1: once they get in office, it's just flatlines. Well you
Speaker 1: know that. Here's the thing. I understand the frustration, But
Speaker 1: you are an influencer. Try to be no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you are an influence. That's why we're talking because I'm
Speaker 1: trying to see how I can get into your head.
Speaker 1: That's let you remind you of your power. If you
Speaker 1: just posted videos of people still poem ward out of
Speaker 1: these sinks and it's brown and talking about this this
Speaker 1: conversation of why you can't bawl away lead. You know
Speaker 1: that people think you can do that, you know, but
Speaker 1: that information that's where the power of social media comes
Speaker 1: into play. Anthony, and I have to remind you that
Speaker 1: there's no pressure on you, just letting you know that
Speaker 1: I don't care about President Trump or him not going
Speaker 1: and him not saying. But they can be reminded. They
Speaker 1: can go viral, it can you can you can always
Speaker 1: tell people social media is your individual press conference. And
Speaker 1: so here I am Russia mcdonaldown in Atlanta. George just
Speaker 1: also live in Houston, Texas. Thinking you guys are good
Speaker 1: and you're telling me, Richard, excuse me, excuse me, still
Speaker 1: not good. Problems is up there. So so what are
Speaker 1: you trying to do? Do you have any causes or
Speaker 1: any foundations set up? And I do have a foundation.
Speaker 1: I have a Derails Trance Foundation. It's my foundation is
Speaker 1: help to find a cure for cancer. That's one of them.
Speaker 1: I mean, with all the people up there with cancer
Speaker 1: and Flint, they still can't drink the water, and then
Speaker 1: their immune system are is so low that if they
Speaker 1: drink the water, they'll be sick for sure. So my
Speaker 1: foundation help find a cure for cancer, helpe boys and
Speaker 1: girls their education enter and out of city, and help
Speaker 1: stop bullying. But my foundation is helping that too. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to open the boys and Girls club. You know,
Speaker 1: it's in the in the heart of where the water
Speaker 1: crisis happen, that's on the north side of Flint. And
Speaker 1: the donation pages up, you know people want to donate,
Speaker 1: but just trying to put some positive there and you know,
Speaker 1: give the kids something to look forward to, because if
Speaker 1: if they have nothing, it's nothing to look for, it's
Speaker 1: nothing to smile about. But I'm trying to give everybody
Speaker 1: in the community something to smile about. And once I
Speaker 1: do it, maybe it's like a domino effect. What everybody
Speaker 1: else does, it does it, and it goes from there.
Speaker 1: It takes off from there. Do you do you're doing
Speaker 1: the galas you's in the events in the Flint area
Speaker 1: or the Michigan area to raise money, or it's just
Speaker 1: making people aware. You have these donations pages, making people
Speaker 1: aware of your causes using some of your money. I'm
Speaker 1: sure to move forward. These are these actions that I'm doing.
Speaker 1: I'm doing that. I'm in the process of doing everything.
Speaker 1: I want to do a golf auting to okay, knocking
Speaker 1: the mint in golf. That's like I said, I want
Speaker 1: to do a golf audience to raise money for that
Speaker 1: uh and for my foundation to like help people with that,
Speaker 1: with the situation that's going on in I want to
Speaker 1: do more events. I I give away turkeys when it's
Speaker 1: UH Thanksgiving. I giveaway gifts on Christmas, you know, on
Speaker 1: every Hoiday. I try to give people something to smile
Speaker 1: about because That's that's what it's about. You know, it's
Speaker 1: about making people happy. If you can't make anyone happy,
Speaker 1: it's it's like I'm doing nothing and I see everything,
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm just out here just trying to make it.
Speaker 1: Here's a beautiful thing about this conversation. You have a family,
Speaker 1: talk about your family, and you out there taking care
Speaker 1: of kids you don't even know. Talking about your families
Speaker 1: you don't even know they are important you as much
Speaker 1: as your family and how your family inspires you. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about your media family, wife, talk us about how
Speaker 1: they relate to actually push you to even further correct
Speaker 1: the wrongs that these young people are our families are facing. Yep.
Speaker 1: So I have ye, I have a wife, three boys.
Speaker 1: They're gonna know they they won't, they won't, they want
Speaker 1: and I told them that. One of them got mad
Speaker 1: at me. But I just I just think you know
Speaker 1: that and I understand that. But we risk our life
Speaker 1: in the ring for little of money. You know, it's
Speaker 1: only a few that get you know, I get paid.
Speaker 1: So in that case, you know, it's basketball players making more.
Speaker 1: They dribble the ball and they're making hundreds of millions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tennis I mean even golf, you know, but uh, I
Speaker 1: really don't want them doing like I say, the three boards.
Speaker 1: They can do anything, they can't do football. Football is no, no,
Speaker 1: no questions. Ye concussion because of the CT. I I
Speaker 1: try to brush up on my you know, whatever they
Speaker 1: want to do. No, I I get down and see
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's safe. But my wife helps me
Speaker 1: out tremendously. She she's a teacher, she teaches at a college.
Speaker 1: She's uh, she liked teaching, helping kids to also. So
Speaker 1: it's just me surrounding yourself around good people. And like
Speaker 1: I said, he goes the backbone thing. The foundation, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's a wonderful thing. And if you can you
Speaker 1: can have that stern foundation, you can make it well.
Speaker 1: You know. Um, I know we're wrapping up this interview,
Speaker 1: but if you I love to go out lunch and
Speaker 1: talk to you about just some ideas. That's us an
Speaker 1: influencer and I could help because I'm sadden that the Flint,
Speaker 1: Michigan situation, it's not even according to you, it's not
Speaker 1: even close to being It's like, I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: close because there's still trying. But I don't I still
Speaker 1: I don't even see nobody out there now, like even
Speaker 1: fixing pipes. But you know they're not gonna be out
Speaker 1: there in the wintertime. So but like I say, it's
Speaker 1: it's like we're a third world country, Uh, not having
Speaker 1: drinkable water. You can't you can't do anything with the water.
Speaker 1: But let it run right. We'll give out your foundation again,
Speaker 1: give out your social media information, and again thank you
Speaker 1: for coming on my show. Anthony Durrell, two times Super
Speaker 1: Time Super Middle eight champion. There you go, Flip Michigan.
Speaker 1: Give out your information. It's a Durrell trans Foundation. Uh.
Speaker 1: And my website is Athony Durrell dot com. My social
Speaker 1: media is Athony Durille on every platform. Okay, cool, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna donate a thousand dollars to your founding appreciated. Good,
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