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Speaker 1: and Gibson. She's an Emmy nominating creative visionary, choreographer, director, producer,
Speaker 1: and entrepreneur. Her new book is Dance Your Dance. Eight
Speaker 1: Steps to leash your passion and live your dreams. The
Speaker 1: book was packed with personal antidotes and messages of empowerment.
Speaker 1: Dance Your Dance highlights Gibson's evolution from a young dancer
Speaker 1: training in New York City to a well respected, in
Speaker 1: demand industry leader with an eye for cultivating music artists
Speaker 1: from the ground up. The book unveils the ultimate blueprint
Speaker 1: to achieving your dreams, a blueprint she's implemented to develop
Speaker 1: some of the world's greatest superstars, including Lady Gaga, Nicki Minaj,
Speaker 1: Katie Perry, and the Jonas Brothers, among others. Please walking
Speaker 1: the Money Making Conversation for the very second time. She's
Speaker 1: a good friend of mine to have on this show
Speaker 1: and I'm happy to promote her new book. Laurie Anne Gibson,
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Ms Gibson, Hi, You're fantastic. Thank
Speaker 1: you for having well. First of all, you know, welcome
Speaker 1: to my new studio. I want them to happen because
Speaker 1: last time we did to be a podcast and we
Speaker 1: didn't get to see each other, but you know, life
Speaker 1: is changing a good way, and a lot of success
Speaker 1: that you've had in despite the COVID nineteen, How did
Speaker 1: they det affect your life or the COVID nineteen the pandemic,
Speaker 1: and how did that impact you in and pro motivated
Speaker 1: you for well? The interesting thing is I was told
Speaker 1: when it was first happening that creatives would excel, and
Speaker 1: I kept hearing this and I kept saying to myself,
Speaker 1: I think, I think, I think that's right. You know,
Speaker 1: when everything shuts down, when people's idea of what it
Speaker 1: takes to make it shifts, that's when we do excel.
Speaker 1: And I have the opportunity to really dig into the
Speaker 1: book and understand the purpose in the book. So I
Speaker 1: was able to take more time to really flush out
Speaker 1: my methodology that I used in helping big superstars becoming
Speaker 1: their very best, and I was able to inspire it
Speaker 1: in eight steps to unleash your passion and live your dream.
Speaker 1: So for me, COVID was a blessing. There was an
Speaker 1: opportunity to shift and shift and be prepared for what's
Speaker 1: ahead of us, and a part of that is shifting
Speaker 1: the narrative and creating inspiration and actual transformation and how
Speaker 1: people dance their dance and no one else's well, you know,
Speaker 1: I definitely want to I want to walk you through
Speaker 1: you telling your story. Right. I read the book, enjoyed
Speaker 1: the book. I read a lot of motivational book, a
Speaker 1: lot of books, said uh, but each book and fascinating.
Speaker 1: Read your book because you have to share personal personal angles,
Speaker 1: and sometimes you're not happy to share those angles, like
Speaker 1: your relationship we had with the the Greek restaurant owner
Speaker 1: as a young girl. You you know, you share it
Speaker 1: and laid on you realize you's the food. But that's
Speaker 1: part of the process. It didn't destroy you. And and
Speaker 1: one of the big things that you say, life is
Speaker 1: a dance, and I bring that moment up that was
Speaker 1: emotionally dark for you. But life is a dance. Explain
Speaker 1: why you say life is a dance in your book.
Speaker 1: Life is a dance because it's about different rhythms, it's
Speaker 1: about different steps that you have to take. And again,
Speaker 1: I believe greatness is in the process. It's not overnight,
Speaker 1: it's not an insta it's in the process of becoming,
Speaker 1: of shedding and receiving and building. So for me. It
Speaker 1: was dark, but I was faced with the opportunity to
Speaker 1: overcome insecurities. I talked about step four staying in there yet,
Speaker 1: so that means to me when I faced the adversity,
Speaker 1: when I faced the feeling of being in a position
Speaker 1: where I was vulnerable in the relationship with the restaurant owner,
Speaker 1: he did approach me in a sexual manner, and I
Speaker 1: was uncomfortable that I wasn't ready to receive it. It
Speaker 1: didn't align itself with the feeling of my dream, and
Speaker 1: I talked about that being a flag, something that redirects
Speaker 1: you to what will help cultivate your dance and create
Speaker 1: the confidence that you need to sustain what it is
Speaker 1: you have to endure in order to live the dream.
Speaker 1: Um So it was difficult. When I did the audio
Speaker 1: book and I heard myself speaking the experience, I was like,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're gonna find out things about me,
Speaker 1: and for a moment I was like, did I write
Speaker 1: this and is this really coming out? Very quickly, I
Speaker 1: understood that my passion to connect directly with entrepreneurs and
Speaker 1: visionaries as a result of what I went through. It
Speaker 1: gave me revelation to write the steps in order for
Speaker 1: them to not only be inspirational, but effective that you
Speaker 1: could go back to a step when you were faced
Speaker 1: with the challenge that would take you out of your dance,
Speaker 1: out of your rhythm, and ultimately making it longer for
Speaker 1: you to achieve that goal. So it was worth it
Speaker 1: in the end because I was able to write a
Speaker 1: book that would be effective for visionaries. Of the thing
Speaker 1: about it is that it's effective in a lot of
Speaker 1: ways because you have to be honest with these books.
Speaker 1: I always I hate reading books to tell you how
Speaker 1: to be wealthy, but they don't have money in the bank,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so you can't tell
Speaker 1: somebody how to be successful if you can't tell them
Speaker 1: how you came out of a dark moment or you
Speaker 1: came down from the basis of the mountain to climb
Speaker 1: that mountain. And that's what your book is. But throughout
Speaker 1: the book, you know, you talk about your dad was Electrician.
Speaker 1: You've born in Canada Ja Jamaican immigrants. You know your
Speaker 1: mom worked at Zeros, but that wasn't her passion, you know.
Speaker 1: And the thing I like about it is that like
Speaker 1: your mom's passion was to be a fashion design and
Speaker 1: her mom said, no, that just an impossibility. And then
Speaker 1: Mr Christopher and dance school, you talk about those dream
Speaker 1: killers when and and like you you might hear. Always
Speaker 1: tell people you know that leave with your gifts. Don't
Speaker 1: let your friends, family members, or your age stop you
Speaker 1: from living your dreams or planning your life. I say
Speaker 1: that all the time. And that's basically the mantra for
Speaker 1: your book. And I love it because of the fact
Speaker 1: that a dream killer tried to stop you as a
Speaker 1: young dancer because you didn't fit the structure or the
Speaker 1: physical structure of a ballerina. Talk about dream killers because
Speaker 1: we encountered them, and guess what, they are clothed in
Speaker 1: so many different disguises, as loved ones, as children, as
Speaker 1: as religious leaders. That's what this book. I got excited
Speaker 1: when I started reading that part of because I said,
Speaker 1: she gets it, and she's telling the truth exactly. And
Speaker 1: I'm very humbled by the fact that you do get it,
Speaker 1: because that's very special to me, because that is the goal,
Speaker 1: that is the intention, and I think too many people
Speaker 1: are afraid to talk about the process, and they're afraid
Speaker 1: to let you know that there will be a fight.
Speaker 1: There are dream killers, and there is a fight, and
Speaker 1: through the fight, once you persevere and you hang onto
Speaker 1: the feeling of your dream, it will produce what you
Speaker 1: need to endure the time that you need to become
Speaker 1: the dream. So a lot of people don't talk about
Speaker 1: the dream Killers because there is a lack of conversation
Speaker 1: about the fight and about the process. Here's a book
Speaker 1: that is unafraid to talk to you while you're in
Speaker 1: the process, to celebrate you while you're in the process,
Speaker 1: to inspire you to dance your dance and not someone else's,
Speaker 1: and that the fight will be there. But it's the
Speaker 1: fact that I had to get back up, that I
Speaker 1: had to bob and we've dodge and turn, and through
Speaker 1: dancing my dance, it created a confidence, a clarity, a
Speaker 1: level of perseverance, and a level of clarity that would
Speaker 1: enable me to stand strong now at the best and
Speaker 1: biggest time of my career. And I think some people
Speaker 1: like to just talk about the glossiness. They're afraid to say.
Speaker 1: I was curled up in a ball after I got,
Speaker 1: you know, in a big fight with Boffy I'm making
Speaker 1: the band. I was curled up in the ball after
Speaker 1: I left my pop star at the biggest moment in
Speaker 1: her career. But it's those moments where I had to
Speaker 1: hang on to the feeling of the dream and define
Speaker 1: myself by staying in my yes. And so if you're
Speaker 1: at the position and the business doesn't look like it's
Speaker 1: about to prosper, but you have this feeling of the dream,
Speaker 1: then you have to take the opportunity to stay in
Speaker 1: your yes and hang onto that dream and go through
Speaker 1: the pain, get back up, choose to fight, choose to
Speaker 1: train again, choose to take another route. But refused to
Speaker 1: give up, refuse to give up. I want the narratives
Speaker 1: to change. Refused to give up. Well, Lorien, how do
Speaker 1: I do that? I'm facing eviction. Face it. Once you
Speaker 1: face it and you acknowledge that your dream is bigger
Speaker 1: than the eviction, that the feeling of the dream is
Speaker 1: bigger than the eviction. Notice, then you will find a
Speaker 1: way out because you've chosen your dance over somebody else's dance,
Speaker 1: and so the dream killers are there to force you
Speaker 1: to dance your dance. Get it from the visionary perspective.
Speaker 1: Why am I facing this? Why did the door close?
Speaker 1: It closed? Because that is not in alignment with the
Speaker 1: feeling of my dream. That door ultimately wasn't going to
Speaker 1: create the greatness in me or produce the greatness in me. Wow.
Speaker 1: You know the thing about greatness is a word that's
Speaker 1: used a lot now because of the pandemic, the word pivot.
Speaker 1: And when you'll read this book, you the queen of pivoting.
Speaker 1: You know you are. When you got on that bus
Speaker 1: with your teen thousand plus dollars and thirteen thousand was
Speaker 1: going to your tuition at an a Lee, you know,
Speaker 1: and the rest was going to you don't know where.
Speaker 1: That was your pivoting moment because there was no destiny.
Speaker 1: But when you got there, you you balanced to pivoty.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying is that, you know, I laugh
Speaker 1: at my life because I a lot of terms that
Speaker 1: I just naturally did it did in my life. They
Speaker 1: are common terms, not branding. Pivoting. You were you know,
Speaker 1: uh dream book boards and stuff that people put on
Speaker 1: that's you. But you did it naturally. Talker walk us
Speaker 1: through those steps, you know, even till the discovering the
Speaker 1: world of hip hop, that was a pivot moment for
Speaker 1: you. You You didn't come to New York to be a
Speaker 1: hipop dancer and so so talk about the power of
Speaker 1: pivoty naturally before it became a term that people use
Speaker 1: like it's something that was discovered overnight. They just well,
Speaker 1: pivoty you when you did it? In this book tells
Speaker 1: you how you did it. There weren't at the time
Speaker 1: when you were pivoting, they were not. You were doing
Speaker 1: it by yourself as a young lady in New York City.
Speaker 1: I lived in New York City in eighty nine. I
Speaker 1: was there in a D eight. I lived And when
Speaker 1: you talk about the railroad apartment, I lived in the
Speaker 1: apartment where guess what I looked at the window. The
Speaker 1: garbage truck stopped every night, woke me up at three am.
Speaker 1: I got right below my window got killed. I can
Speaker 1: go shower with ten other people because guess whether there
Speaker 1: was a giant shower. So I know exactly the struggle
Speaker 1: when you talk about pivoty, you have to do some
Speaker 1: things that guess what, dude, you tell the story because
Speaker 1: goof what God has allowed you with your faith to
Speaker 1: be able to tell this story. But let's talk about
Speaker 1: pivoty when it was not something you could read in
Speaker 1: the book, that you had to go just on your faith,
Speaker 1: your belief in your dreams. Oh my god, that's so
Speaker 1: beautiful what you just said, because basically you said it
Speaker 1: for me, and I'm so grateful that you have felt
Speaker 1: the purpose of the book Evening is a dance moved.
Speaker 1: It is changing the direction and headed into a better flow.
Speaker 1: I start out in the book talking about step one,
Speaker 1: dare to dream. And I used the word dare because
Speaker 1: when you're producing something that hasn't been done before, you
Speaker 1: won't see it in the world. You won't see the
Speaker 1: reflection because you are the very thing that you're looking for.
Speaker 1: It's in you. So there isn't dare. There isn't a
Speaker 1: risk to dream. But I talked about it early so
Speaker 1: we can get it out the way, and so you
Speaker 1: can establish a confidence in the passion and in the dream,
Speaker 1: so that you can hang onto that feeling when a
Speaker 1: pivot hits you. So when I went to New York
Speaker 1: and I thought I was studying at alban Elly, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden I went to a hip hop
Speaker 1: audition and I began to feel something more and there
Speaker 1: was a pivot. But yet I was like, how can
Speaker 1: I do hip hop? When I was studying technical dancer,
Speaker 1: I thought I was supposed to be at alban Elly.
Speaker 1: But in trusting the feeling of the dream, I realized
Speaker 1: that I had to pivot because it wasn't just about
Speaker 1: dancing his great works. It was about being inspired by
Speaker 1: Alvan Elly, J Famis and Katherine Dunham. It was the
Speaker 1: fact that when I first saw Ailie, I saw a
Speaker 1: man who spoke about tribulation and oppression through dance. I
Speaker 1: realized that his work as a visionary was what was
Speaker 1: speaking to my purpose, to my soul. It was moving
Speaker 1: me towards me understanding how to create movement and artists
Speaker 1: that would speak to the circumstance. So the pivot was necessary.
Speaker 1: And so the fact that we're even talking about the
Speaker 1: pivot from a real place like it's gonna feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: There will be a moment where you're out there and
Speaker 1: you have no confirmation that the pivot is right. But
Speaker 1: what you do know is where you were didn't feel
Speaker 1: like all you could be, which is why you have
Speaker 1: to hang onto the feeling of the dream, because it's
Speaker 1: in the pivot that there will be a moment where
Speaker 1: you're sustaining evidence of that dream and you're becoming it.
Speaker 1: And so to be able to pick up a book
Speaker 1: that will give you strength during your pivot or while
Speaker 1: you're pivoting. Is key because God gives each enevy, one
Speaker 1: of us a different dreams so that we can help
Speaker 1: each other to further empower each other, so that we
Speaker 1: could live our perfect dreams are individual dreams. So I
Speaker 1: think the pivot is not something that's just to be
Speaker 1: taken lightly. Oh it's easy. Go ahead and pivot and
Speaker 1: don't feel nervous. Go have it and pivot and don't
Speaker 1: feel sick in your stomach when you're walking away from
Speaker 1: your nine to five to open your own business. No,
Speaker 1: understand that those are all flags that are directing you
Speaker 1: directly into the dream. And it is scary. You do
Speaker 1: have to dare to dream, but you already established that
Speaker 1: in step one. So continue to dance because the next
Speaker 1: step will present itself. You'll get confident in the idea
Speaker 1: that pivoting needs to write the evidence of what you
Speaker 1: will become, and it will get easier to dance those pivots. Then,
Speaker 1: the thing about it is interesting about your book. I
Speaker 1: I I turned Mr Christopher. Every time a dream killer
Speaker 1: came in your life, it was Mr Christopher. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying so too, So be patient with me.
Speaker 1: Like the Mr Christopher started way in your life and
Speaker 1: you ignored him, and I called the restaurant owner. He's
Speaker 1: a Mr Christopher, Okay, the person who who basically parted
Speaker 1: you and you missed out on that opportunity in the
Speaker 1: Malcolm X movie, that was a Mr Christopher. How do
Speaker 1: we recognize the Mr Christopher's in our world because your
Speaker 1: book talks about them. We call him dream killers. There
Speaker 1: are individuals, these dream killers, and they are people that
Speaker 1: sometimes you don't recognize them, but they came into your life.
Speaker 1: You didn't let them win. They call emotionals. They were
Speaker 1: never physical setbacks because you have your health. They were
Speaker 1: emotional moments. Say, but you learn from you talk about
Speaker 1: how you learned. But the thing I like consistently about
Speaker 1: your book, hard work was never something you ran away
Speaker 1: from you. You admitted your thoughts, you admitted your errors,
Speaker 1: and you were responsible towards correcting them in another situation.
Speaker 1: And just talk about that because I think that's important
Speaker 1: because a lot of people, when they make mistakes, Your
Speaker 1: book discusses how to overcome or not let that mistake win,
Speaker 1: because it's a mistake that we all can make talk
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, I call them mishaps. You know, you
Speaker 1: follow out the dance, you follow out the eight cap,
Speaker 1: but as a result of the falling, something in you
Speaker 1: gets louder. The voice of the dream, the feeling of
Speaker 1: the dream. Now you're able to hear it because you're
Speaker 1: in a misstep. So now you're like, Okay, I'm acknowledging
Speaker 1: it as a misstep because I don't feel good making
Speaker 1: that decision. I didn't feel good being late. I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like what was inside of me was aligning itself
Speaker 1: with what Mr Christopher said. He said I couldn't be
Speaker 1: a ballerina. My feet were too flat, my back was arched.
Speaker 1: He literally said that I wouldn't be a great dancer.
Speaker 1: But my dream told me different. The feeling inside of
Speaker 1: me told me different, and I hung on to that feeling,
Speaker 1: and as a result of me being obedient to that feeling,
Speaker 1: I wasn't afraid of the work that I needed to
Speaker 1: develop that level of ability. I talked about training to
Speaker 1: sustain getting as much information as you need to be
Speaker 1: able to persevere through a dream killer. It's the raining,
Speaker 1: it's the work you put into becoming that sustains you.
Speaker 1: When someone doesn't see what it is you're meant to
Speaker 1: become because you're the one of the ones. You're a prototype.
Speaker 1: So how how was Mr Christopher supposed me? He never
Speaker 1: saw a young black girl with that much belief, power
Speaker 1: and authority when she danced. He was in a very
Speaker 1: ignorant phase of his dance. So I tell those people too,
Speaker 1: that our dream killers to get out of their period
Speaker 1: of oppression and rejection to the greatness and others, because
Speaker 1: they're ruining their own greatness in themselves. But the most
Speaker 1: important thing as a visionary is to understand that you
Speaker 1: must do the work, you must train get as much
Speaker 1: knowledge to sustain the dream killers, because what you carry
Speaker 1: maybe something original. You may be a prototype, and in
Speaker 1: most cases, everyone's dream is unique to themselves, and we
Speaker 1: are all prototypes. We have something you neique to offer,
Speaker 1: and in understanding that philosophy and that methodology, you will
Speaker 1: be less inclined to design yourself by what someone else
Speaker 1: does and begin to embrace the conversation that I'm a prototype.
Speaker 1: I gotta dance my dance because what I have to
Speaker 1: do hasn't been done the way I'm going to do
Speaker 1: it right, right, you know? That you know this this
Speaker 1: is no time wherever, time limit here. But I want
Speaker 1: to ask you one more question. It's a couple of
Speaker 1: things I wish I saw that I had sat a
Speaker 1: picture of you and you go with black old cowboy
Speaker 1: boots because I'm a Texas boy. So I fell in
Speaker 1: love when you went out and thought you had to
Speaker 1: help a pair of black cowboy boots. And when you
Speaker 1: went for that audition and heavy d and did in
Speaker 1: how you change and walk down hip hop se There's
Speaker 1: a lot of things that I love about this book.
Speaker 1: And the thing I love about this book the most
Speaker 1: is that see, fear stops a lot of people. I
Speaker 1: always tell people they don't want to change jobs or
Speaker 1: they don't want to end relationships. You know, fear could
Speaker 1: have stopped you with Lady God God, they keeping nags
Speaker 1: to call you, got with Michael Michael Jackson, you was
Speaker 1: working with Brandy. These are not these are not trivial
Speaker 1: names that are thrown around in the book. They're just
Speaker 1: examples to let you let people know that that you
Speaker 1: had to make decisions and you couldn't be afraid when
Speaker 1: you was making these decisions. And before I wrapped this interview,
Speaker 1: I like to if you can just explain to people, yes,
Speaker 1: you are afraid, your fear was in you, but faith
Speaker 1: got you through that. But talk about that whole process
Speaker 1: because a lot of people are stuck at jobs right
Speaker 1: now that you quit their relationships they could walk away
Speaker 1: from They're living in conditions that they can do better,
Speaker 1: like you said, but they refused to figure out a plan.
Speaker 1: This book is about a plan and they if they
Speaker 1: follow this plan. They realized that this book might have
Speaker 1: a lot of famous names in it. Just remove the
Speaker 1: famous names and write their names, and the people that
Speaker 1: are blocking them are helping them there in this book.
Speaker 1: That's why I love this book, miss Gibson, and I
Speaker 1: want to thank you for writing it. But before I leave,
Speaker 1: if you can expound on overcoming fear when great opportunities
Speaker 1: are presenting themselves but you don't know the expectations of
Speaker 1: what could happen. You're so awesome. I really am grateful
Speaker 1: for you and your guidance and helping me express the
Speaker 1: power of this book. So thank you so much for
Speaker 1: dancing your dance, but most importantly for being your great self,
Speaker 1: because it is blowing me away how much you're helping
Speaker 1: people to understand the power of this book. So I'm
Speaker 1: so humbled by that. Thank you. I believe and I
Speaker 1: know that I wrote this book for the very reason
Speaker 1: that if I can speak to your dream, I can
Speaker 1: speak to your circumstance. So I know that fear did
Speaker 1: not live in me. It lived around me, but faith
Speaker 1: lived in me. Once you dare to dream, then the
Speaker 1: possibilities of the beautiful power of that dream is about faith,
Speaker 1: and faith is in the dream. So very early I
Speaker 1: realized that faith was something that was around me, that
Speaker 1: was something that was being projected towards me, and that
Speaker 1: if I gave it life, if I said yes to it,
Speaker 1: then that would actually become something I had to then
Speaker 1: experience versus staying in my yes, which is an important
Speaker 1: step four. It's a hard step to work because you
Speaker 1: have to stay in something that you cannot see. You
Speaker 1: have to stay in something that is deeply rooted in
Speaker 1: the passion that you feel when you think about your dream,
Speaker 1: and in doing so, you choose your dream over the fear.
Speaker 1: And now you're saying to life, unfold according to God's plan, Unfold,
Speaker 1: according to the plan of my dream, my purpose, and
Speaker 1: my destiny unfold according to my dance unfold according to
Speaker 1: who I am, And again you choose the dream over
Speaker 1: the fear, and suddenly what starts to rise in you
Speaker 1: is confirmation and the faith gets you to the next step.
Speaker 1: Suddenly the phone rings, You pick up the phone, and
Speaker 1: it reflects you staying in your yes and not the
Speaker 1: fear of losing, but the faith of winning. So it
Speaker 1: is about working the steps. It's not about expecting something
Speaker 1: to happen magically overnight. No, it's about understanding when you're
Speaker 1: facing it and you refuse to choose it, it's to come.
Speaker 1: When when when I had to pay that bill and
Speaker 1: I didn't have a job and my grand was due,
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, God, where am I? When I
Speaker 1: was going to the foreign officer, she was like, you
Speaker 1: have to go home. I was in that bathroom on
Speaker 1: my knees, like you gave me this dream. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need you to help me understand what I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to say when I go downstairs and they want me
Speaker 1: to produce this paper that I don't have. And as
Speaker 1: soon as I went downstairs to test me on this
Speaker 1: foot path, I got your foot. Okay. I was the
Speaker 1: very woman that he expected me to produce a paper
Speaker 1: that I did not have, a paper that would send
Speaker 1: me home. Got fired. Yes, yes, and they were like, look,
Speaker 1: miss Wanton is not here. I need you to go
Speaker 1: back to your class. And what did that do? It
Speaker 1: brought me time to do what I needed to do
Speaker 1: to stay in my dreams. So I talk about these
Speaker 1: situations to support another dreamer at that particular junction where
Speaker 1: they need evidence of the yes, evidence of someone staying
Speaker 1: in there. Yes, not just the celebrating materialistically being bold,
Speaker 1: being like braggadocious about what you have. This is not
Speaker 1: what this book is about. This is about the coming
Speaker 1: which you are. And at certain times I have to
Speaker 1: talk about what I don't have and what I didn't have,
Speaker 1: so that you can understand the power of staying in
Speaker 1: your yes, the power of your dream. So I'm so grateful,
Speaker 1: but it is really important, especially now that I speak
Speaker 1: to fear being around you, not in you, so that
Speaker 1: you can understand how to stay in your yes, which
Speaker 1: completely produces the faith and the confidence and the perseverance
Speaker 1: you need to get to what you already are. Geez,
Speaker 1: Laurie and Gibson dance your dance. She shares numerous inspirational
Speaker 1: stories and antidotes, including coming up with dancing with Jenni Loaf,
Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez, first time meeting Lady Gaga, working with the
Speaker 1: late Michael Jackson, the early days of bringing Nicki Minaje
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Speaker 1: My nixt guest is Ryan Sir Hand. He's a coach
Speaker 1: star Bravo's hit show Million Dollars Listing New York and
Speaker 1: the author of the national bestseller Sell It Like Sir Hand.
Speaker 1: Ryan May just nine thousand dollars. He talked about it
Speaker 1: in this book The first Year in the business twelve years.
Speaker 1: Lady averages the billion dollars in sales every year, making
Speaker 1: him one of the most successful real estate brokers in
Speaker 1: the world. His social media platforms gets the combined average
Speaker 1: of three million eyeballs. His real estate company, which launched
Speaker 1: in and is the most followed real estate brand in
Speaker 1: the world. He was discussing this new book b m E.
Speaker 1: Big Money Energy, How to Rule It, Work, Dominated life
Speaker 1: and make millions. People who possess b EMMY, which is
Speaker 1: big money Energy, get that way because they are committed
Speaker 1: to making their vision for themselves and reality, and their
Speaker 1: vision is big b I G. Please working to money
Speaker 1: Making conversation. He is b m E himself, Ryan, Sir Hud,
Speaker 1: How you doing, sir? Pretty good? Let's talk about this
Speaker 1: book man. You know, Uh, In some ways I felt
Speaker 1: it was like a refresher course for me, which is
Speaker 1: really good because sometimes we could get how to be successful,
Speaker 1: we could get the journeys and a book like this.
Speaker 1: If you don't know, you learned. If you do know,
Speaker 1: it really forces the path that you've taken is the
Speaker 1: right path? Correct? Correct? You know? I came to New
Speaker 1: York City, uh in two thousand six after I graduated school,
Speaker 1: and the one thing I always wanted to do was theater.
Speaker 1: I wasn't good at too much else. I wasn't good
Speaker 1: at school. I wasn't good at sports. My parents really
Speaker 1: really pushed me to do both of those things, take
Speaker 1: as many different courses as it could, uh, play every
Speaker 1: single sport imaginable. But the only thing that I was
Speaker 1: kind of okay at was theater. And so I've always
Speaker 1: believed that I rather regret the things I did and
Speaker 1: the things I never tried. And so I moved to
Speaker 1: New York City and gave myself two years. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been working odd jobs in the summers and after
Speaker 1: school since I was like seven years old. Um. And
Speaker 1: so I had a little and the money saved up,
Speaker 1: and that was my New York City money, um. And
Speaker 1: it lasted me a couple of years. And at that
Speaker 1: point I ran out of money in the summer of
Speaker 1: two thousand eight, and it was get a job or
Speaker 1: move home. Uh. And when I decided to become a
Speaker 1: real estate agent, I realized I had no competence as
Speaker 1: a real estate agent. Who who Who's going to buy
Speaker 1: or rent an apartment from me? I'm not from here.
Speaker 1: I was born in Houston, Texas. I grew up a
Speaker 1: little bit in Long Island outside Boston. You know, I
Speaker 1: bounced around eight times before fourth grade. Um, uh. You know,
Speaker 1: I had very, very very low self esteem. Um. And
Speaker 1: when you come to a city like New York, you know,
Speaker 1: New York is run by New Yorkers, and I definitely
Speaker 1: was not a New Yorker. I wasn't I didn't go
Speaker 1: to the schools here and I grew up here. Um.
Speaker 1: But I saw all these people walking around on the
Speaker 1: streets and events who carried themselves with a certain level
Speaker 1: of confidence that just proved that they were successful. You know,
Speaker 1: the type of person that would walk into a room
Speaker 1: and everyone would gravitate towards them. You know, they had
Speaker 1: this big magnetic energy and I wanted that. Um uh.
Speaker 1: And that's really what this book is. Big Money Energy
Speaker 1: is all about how to become the person you want
Speaker 1: to become. If you're the type of person who looks
Speaker 1: at other people's success and says, why not me? That
Speaker 1: was me? That was me? And I used to say
Speaker 1: the same thing, and then I figured out how to
Speaker 1: get there, and so I put it all into the book. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, the thing about the book is that this
Speaker 1: is what I really liked. I like the book in
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways. Like I've told you, I
Speaker 1: love chapter five when you talk about dominating the look
Speaker 1: of dominant look. It's important, don't trivia lize to look
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about we first sale was tied
Speaker 1: to the look and how you know, how you used
Speaker 1: as a manifestation to who you are to day brand
Speaker 1: selling you look great? Look at you, you look beautiful.
Speaker 1: I cannot read chapter five and not come on an
Speaker 1: interview any other way but that this, this had to be.
Speaker 1: This is my dominated look. Now I'm gon dominator to
Speaker 1: day interviewing you into my dominating style. Now, I love it.
Speaker 1: The reason I liked your book was that a lot
Speaker 1: of books I read they talk about entrepreneurship, they talk
Speaker 1: about small business owner. You're talking about everyday people, how
Speaker 1: they can rule it work, how they can rule in
Speaker 1: a regular forty all week job. How also they can
Speaker 1: turn around by just changing their attitude, by changing their look,
Speaker 1: which in turn means they can dominate in life and
Speaker 1: make millions. But so many people look at that forty
Speaker 1: all week job and treat that that's all they can be,
Speaker 1: and not looking at the nuances of what they can
Speaker 1: change in their life to be successful. That's why this
Speaker 1: book is really a must read book for just everyday
Speaker 1: people as well as entrepreneurs. Correct, yeah, no, it's it's
Speaker 1: not just for entrepreneurs. Um. And entrepreneurs are people who
Speaker 1: don't have forty error a week jobs. They don't have
Speaker 1: jobs at all. You know. I I am an entrepreneur,
Speaker 1: but I am unemployed. You know, I make money if
Speaker 1: I sell a house. That's it. You know, there's no
Speaker 1: no one pays me hourly. I don't. I don't have
Speaker 1: a monthly retainer. I don't have salaries. Are better fits
Speaker 1: for everyone. If I sell a house, I get a
Speaker 1: small percentage of that house sale and that's it. Um.
Speaker 1: If you have a job that is paying you by
Speaker 1: the hour, or you have a salary, you're one step
Speaker 1: above any entrepreneur. To be an entrepreneur, you have to
Speaker 1: be a little bit crazy because you're basically cutting out
Speaker 1: the net. That's the only way I know how to live.
Speaker 1: I need to have my back up against a wall
Speaker 1: an order for for me to really really fight and
Speaker 1: to get as much I want to add a life
Speaker 1: as possible. But if you are working that forty hour week, UM,
Speaker 1: just know that any of your superior's positions are possible
Speaker 1: for you too, you know. And that's what having big
Speaker 1: money energy is really really all about is having that
Speaker 1: big confident energy to start being the role before you
Speaker 1: are the role. Okay, start assuming that position before someone
Speaker 1: even has to give it to you. I think so
Speaker 1: many people sit and wait and say, well, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to do that. I'm not going to know. That's
Speaker 1: not my job. That's not my job. That's not my job.
Speaker 1: That's if you're the type of person who says that
Speaker 1: it's not my job, then then you're not going to
Speaker 1: go anywhere anyway. Like I still to this day. If
Speaker 1: I got to, I'll go paint and apartments. I'll paint
Speaker 1: all our place in microwave. Because nothing is above me.
Speaker 1: My job is to get the job done, regardless of
Speaker 1: who's doing it. Now. Ideally other people do it, but
Speaker 1: if they don't, I'm going to do it. Um So
Speaker 1: you can look at the people that are above you
Speaker 1: at work, either the better sales people or your manager
Speaker 1: or the boss, and know that it's possible for you
Speaker 1: to be in that position. You just have to want it,
Speaker 1: and then you have to work for it, and then
Speaker 1: you have to work into it. We know. The thing
Speaker 1: about it is that a lot of people are in
Speaker 1: your business the real estate business. But I've never seen
Speaker 1: the social media favor that you get in social media
Speaker 1: because they're all my guests. I always look at the
Speaker 1: social media at the traction follow their feeds. Why do
Speaker 1: you think that your followers are so engaged with your brain?
Speaker 1: Is because your youth, because of your your tone, your style,
Speaker 1: You're confident, you care, you got a swagger about let's
Speaker 1: go and right, let's go in bed. You have a
Speaker 1: swagger about you and there's a fun swagger. Is that
Speaker 1: tied to the fact that you wanted to be an
Speaker 1: actor and you and U just like play act in
Speaker 1: the world at the success and that's why bame works
Speaker 1: for you big money and talk about that. Why why
Speaker 1: are you so popularly in social media? Oh man, Well,
Speaker 1: I think that's for one. People like real estate. They
Speaker 1: like looking at beautiful houses, they like seeing inside wealthy
Speaker 1: people's homes, So people follow me for the real estate.
Speaker 1: I think to one of the reasons million are listing
Speaker 1: works so well as a show is because it is
Speaker 1: such a crazy career. Like the fact that you could
Speaker 1: live in New York City and sell these insane homes
Speaker 1: and deal with these crazy people. That's a that's a
Speaker 1: wild job. And so there's like this voyeuristic thing about
Speaker 1: following me. You know, what is my life like? My
Speaker 1: life is not normal whatsoever, between the filming, the books,
Speaker 1: the showing the apartments to houses, the flying around, all
Speaker 1: the craziness um. And so I think people like that.
Speaker 1: They like being able to take a step back and
Speaker 1: and seeing what what what our lifestyles are like. And
Speaker 1: I think that I also try to have fun with things.
Speaker 1: I don't take myself too seriously. I don't care how
Speaker 1: much I sell. Life is way too short. Well that's
Speaker 1: what I love about you, you know, because you you
Speaker 1: don't take yourself serious, but you're you're shark. You know
Speaker 1: that you know how to close. And uh, let's talk
Speaker 1: about that whole start, because I want to give away
Speaker 1: the book. But this book is kind of like a
Speaker 1: journey from you know, becoming a novice who didn't understand
Speaker 1: its value and understood and then just a gift from
Speaker 1: God fell into your lap and you adjusted to it
Speaker 1: and you rose to the occasion. And you kind of
Speaker 1: mentioned that earlier. A lot of people who who tend
Speaker 1: to say I will do that, or is that's not
Speaker 1: my cup of tea or nobody, Nobody put that as
Speaker 1: my work schedule or my opportunity. That is what you
Speaker 1: didn't do. And that's what this book is telling people.
Speaker 1: When the opportunity comes to you, don't push it this side,
Speaker 1: challenge yourself. This book is a challenge yourself book. And
Speaker 1: I am I reading it correctly, Oh yes, thousand percent.
Speaker 1: The book is not for people that are going to
Speaker 1: read it and then go back to life the same
Speaker 1: way they were they were doing it yesterday, right. The
Speaker 1: book is for anybody that wants to do better, get
Speaker 1: to a place tomorrow that they otherwise wouldn't be today. Right.
Speaker 1: The whole idea is, how do you become the person
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in ten years tomorrow? How do you
Speaker 1: start becoming future you? I think about Ryan all the time.
Speaker 1: That's the person who motivates me. That's the person I
Speaker 1: look up to is myself, because look at what happened.
Speaker 1: We can't control anything, right, we can't predict anything in
Speaker 1: life is so so so delicate. I want to make
Speaker 1: sure that whatever I do today, it's going to make
Speaker 1: my life in nine years awesome, So that that guy
Speaker 1: is so successful that he can buy a time machine
Speaker 1: go back in time and pat me on the back
Speaker 1: today and I'll be like, what's going on? Oh wow,
Speaker 1: that's me in the future, so much older now, Like
Speaker 1: that's what I want, right, more than anything, you want
Speaker 1: to be future year, right, you want that knowledge. But
Speaker 1: also when I'm reading your book, here's this's This's the
Speaker 1: cool thing about reading your book is that I like
Speaker 1: to believe I'm a successful person. Okay, and because of
Speaker 1: that success, then I've learned some tricks of the trade.
Speaker 1: And to see it written out somebody who follows that
Speaker 1: same path, because you're a successful person and a very
Speaker 1: successful person by the way, it follows those paths. What
Speaker 1: made you say, you know some I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: reveal this path to millions who could potentially buy this book.
Speaker 1: What made you say I want to reveal I want
Speaker 1: to help people. Is that part of your DNA? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't think it was um. But over
Speaker 1: the past couple of years it has become that. You know,
Speaker 1: we were we were quarantined, like all of us. I
Speaker 1: was in New Hampshire in the woods in the snow,
Speaker 1: talking to our our course members. We do a big
Speaker 1: online sales course. Talking to my team members, all the
Speaker 1: people that work with me UM and talking to fans
Speaker 1: and people all over the world, and everyone was so scared.
Speaker 1: People were nervous. No one had any idea what the
Speaker 1: answers were. We were all in limbo um and people
Speaker 1: were being fired and people are being furloughed, and so
Speaker 1: many people were connecting their self worth to their income
Speaker 1: or lack thereof, to their level of income. And I
Speaker 1: remember thinking that way until I stopped thinking that way,
Speaker 1: and so I just started writing. You know, with my
Speaker 1: first book that kind of happened to say went, and
Speaker 1: so I just started writing. And out of those experiences
Speaker 1: and those conversations and those talks came big money energy
Speaker 1: And how many different ways can there be that I
Speaker 1: get back? To get back with money, I get back
Speaker 1: with time. I am only successful because New York allows
Speaker 1: me to be successful. I'm only successful because I've been
Speaker 1: super fortunate. It's super lucky, and I completely understand that.
Speaker 1: And so what I know is also another way that
Speaker 1: I can get back. It's like, okay, let me put
Speaker 1: what I know about how to be successful. Let me
Speaker 1: put in a book so people can copy it. Like,
Speaker 1: go ahead, just do exactly what I did. Top me
Speaker 1: worked for me. It could possibly work for you too.
Speaker 1: But if it doesn't, take take the best and leave
Speaker 1: the rest right. And you did that, let's talk about
Speaker 1: starting the business in which is the pandemic. A lot
Speaker 1: of people ran to the wolves, a lot of people
Speaker 1: felt sorry for themselves, a lot of people were afraid
Speaker 1: to come out of their homes. I know. That's why
Speaker 1: I say I love your book because I bought a
Speaker 1: building during the pandemic. I'm bet on myself. And like
Speaker 1: I said, your book. You know, I don't want to
Speaker 1: act like I'm just saying things to make you feel good,
Speaker 1: but your book really alliance with a lot of my
Speaker 1: easton I bet on myself, And you talk about betting
Speaker 1: on yourself, trusting your instincts. And I bought up building
Speaker 1: and I had a plan and it has been a
Speaker 1: plan that has led me to a tremendous amount of
Speaker 1: momentum and led to this new studio that I built
Speaker 1: out for myself because I have a plan. And so
Speaker 1: talk about betting on yourself, because this book starts out
Speaker 1: when you was only making nine thousand dollars a year,
Speaker 1: and you start betting yourself, you start taking risks, you
Speaker 1: start ignoring what other people said you should do and
Speaker 1: did the things you felt you wanted to do, and
Speaker 1: someone them surprised you. Yeah, yes, yeah, My whole life
Speaker 1: has been a bunch of a bunch of surprises. Um,
Speaker 1: good surprises, Ryan good surprises. Okay, yes, good surprises. It's
Speaker 1: one of the most important things about finding success, especially
Speaker 1: when you don't think that success is for you, because
Speaker 1: you think success is reserved for everybody else good looking,
Speaker 1: that educated, the well connected, etcetera. Right, understand that that's
Speaker 1: all You just have to become an opportunist. You cannot
Speaker 1: wait for opportunity. You can't wait for the future. You
Speaker 1: need to make the future now. You need to start
Speaker 1: creating situations that will create opportunities. You need to start
Speaker 1: riding the waves of all your little individual successes and
Speaker 1: shouting them from the mountaintops. Remember that people who are
Speaker 1: successful only work with other successful people because there's there's
Speaker 1: too much risk in working with anyone else. So the
Speaker 1: reason I work now with billionaires, helping them buy and
Speaker 1: sell property all over the world is because they know
Speaker 1: that I've helped other billionaires. They don't even talk to
Speaker 1: anyone else now. They just call me because they know
Speaker 1: all right, he's been able to figure it out. Other
Speaker 1: people have used him. That that's good enough for me, Ryan,
Speaker 1: I need there's any dat you know. And so it's
Speaker 1: it's that level of just sort of betting on my
Speaker 1: own abilities, um and being able to play the game.
Speaker 1: Like you already have the money in your pocket, right,
Speaker 1: like you already you already want any time you go
Speaker 1: into a meeting, any time you go into work, you
Speaker 1: already want. You already won the day, right, you've already
Speaker 1: been paid. What else can you do? What's gonna separate
Speaker 1: you from everybody else? But you know the thing about
Speaker 1: it is there now hear what you're saying. And then
Speaker 1: you talk about in the book because you play the game,
Speaker 1: but you better have your facts together, you better do
Speaker 1: your homework. I remember when you, Steve Harvey. I was
Speaker 1: sitting down in the meeting in l A and we
Speaker 1: met Janet. She's a billionaire, and we were talking about
Speaker 1: some deals. And I've always had that gift of being
Speaker 1: able to I guess b asked my way up to
Speaker 1: a point, and guess what. She called me on it,
Speaker 1: and she said, you're telling it, but I know what
Speaker 1: you're doing. Stop it. Stop it. At that point on
Speaker 1: when I realized and that's that's that moment you have
Speaker 1: in your book that you discussed when you got called
Speaker 1: on it, when you came in with those generic responses,
Speaker 1: you thought you would get away, and he kept digging
Speaker 1: into you, going he don't know, he don't know. Talk
Speaker 1: about that moment because I don't want people. That's what
Speaker 1: I don't want people take away from this book, big
Speaker 1: money energy. That you can address a certain way and
Speaker 1: you can win. That you can be as your way
Speaker 1: with a personality and you can win. That is none
Speaker 1: of Ryan's skills. This is a person who does his work.
Speaker 1: He's willing to put forth the effort to accomplish the task.
Speaker 1: He knows a look, if you're gonna if you're gonna
Speaker 1: play with billionaires, don't walk up there like you're about
Speaker 1: to cut their yard. That's what he's saying in this book.
Speaker 1: And so I remember when when I was reading that
Speaker 1: portion of your book about your encounter, it flashed back
Speaker 1: to my encounter because all I'm saying, Ryan, is that
Speaker 1: in your book, my man, you're hitting so many home
Speaker 1: runs with relatable information that people like me and people
Speaker 1: who aren't's successful like me. People wh aren't imploying in
Speaker 1: for the all week job will take this information and
Speaker 1: win with it. And that's all you're saying. Yes, a
Speaker 1: thousand percent, everything takes work, but if you put the
Speaker 1: work in, the work will take care of you. The
Speaker 1: work will make you money, will make you more money,
Speaker 1: will allow you to lead a better lifestyle. But you
Speaker 1: cannot fake it. This isn't fake it till you make it.
Speaker 1: This is why not me. This is being future you. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a very, very very big difference between the two.
Speaker 1: Faking it till you make it is what you were
Speaker 1: just talking about that I did that once. I sold
Speaker 1: one apartment, one home one for just over two million dollars,
Speaker 1: and I thought I was the man. I thought I
Speaker 1: was the best. I just sold this apart all I do.
Speaker 1: I did it with a Chinese investor, buying an apartment
Speaker 1: for a baby that wasn't even born yet. I am
Speaker 1: the man. And so I got a meeting with a
Speaker 1: big developer who sows buildings all over the city. I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, dude, I'm it's me. Okay, I just
Speaker 1: sold that apartment. I'm gonna go meet with this developer.
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm just gonna get this. And I went
Speaker 1: in there prepared to crush it, and he started asking
Speaker 1: me all these questions about the market, the history of
Speaker 1: New York City, what I thought about this developer, that developer, this,
Speaker 1: and I froze. I had no idea what he was
Speaker 1: talking about. I just thought, you know, he wanted to
Speaker 1: meet me, and that, like I was that I didn't
Speaker 1: have to do any work. That I was just gonna
Speaker 1: go in and use canna say, Ryan, we've got this building.
Speaker 1: You know you're a star broker. You just sold that
Speaker 1: apartment so that Chinese and pstor you know, what do
Speaker 1: you think about our building? Would you like to sell it?
Speaker 1: I can't believe that I was so naive, but that
Speaker 1: was that was bullet money energy. That was a BS
Speaker 1: money energy. Um uh. That that carried me into that meeting.
Speaker 1: And when I left, the feedback I got from the
Speaker 1: friend who connected us was he basically just said Ryan's
Speaker 1: got a lot to learn. Nice kid, though, And that
Speaker 1: that was that moment where I was like, Okay, you
Speaker 1: know I just messed that up big time. I gotta
Speaker 1: fix this going forward. It's all about what you know,
Speaker 1: It's all about what you know, you do your homework,
Speaker 1: your preparation. That's where the confidence comes from because then
Speaker 1: you don't need the experience if you know more than
Speaker 1: the next guy. And that's how you're better than the internet,
Speaker 1: right for all of us that are selling against the
Speaker 1: Internet all day long. Really interesting that that was a
Speaker 1: that was a tough meeting for It was a tough meeting,
Speaker 1: but that was a meaning that woke you up because
Speaker 1: it was two things I took away from that meeting. One,
Speaker 1: you didn't you do your homework, but to close your
Speaker 1: first deal with Joan, who was pregnant at the time,
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Speaker 1: guests are Many Boom, well known director, and Solomon Onneita Jr.
Speaker 1: Bennie Boone is one of the executive producers of Tasmanian Devil,
Speaker 1: and Solomon Noneia Junior is the writer and director of
Speaker 1: Tasmanian Devil. Here's a little history of my man, Benni Boom.
Speaker 1: He's a member of Appli Phi Apple As it Is. Solomon,
Speaker 1: he directed a much anticipated two pop cool bio pick out,
Speaker 1: All Eyes on Me. He has dominated the television and
Speaker 1: streaming platforms. Benny's directed episodes of n c I, s
Speaker 1: l A, Black Lightning and All American The Quad and
Speaker 1: Tales at bt Lee Daniels Empire on Fox Now. In
Speaker 1: August twenty the Tasan Tasmanian Devil earned Solomon Onneita Jr.
Speaker 1: The inaugural John Singleton Director Award for the Best First
Speaker 1: Feature at the tw twenty American Black Film Festival. Tasmanian
Speaker 1: Devil was streaming on all platforms, especially Amazon, iTunes and fandego.
Speaker 1: Please welcome to My Man to money making Conversations Bennie
Speaker 1: Boone and Solomon Oneita Junior. How you doing, fellas? Are
Speaker 1: you doing? Man? I got a couple of apples on
Speaker 1: the call right here. I think that's important to say
Speaker 1: this because we're talking about the more by pledging and
Speaker 1: and if they you know, I've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: different versions. Uh, I know, I was fortunate. Uh I
Speaker 1: should do sitcoms and I used to. I wrote an
Speaker 1: episode with Sister Sister when it was on the air
Speaker 1: and we did. Uh my man, Brian McKnight, he was
Speaker 1: a starter in the sitcom and we and you know,
Speaker 1: when you start talking about fraternitys and sororities, and if
Speaker 1: you if you make anybody walking the straight line or
Speaker 1: anybody to do something against their will, then no national
Speaker 1: branch for turning to mess with you, because that's hazy.
Speaker 1: That's you know, if you said walking the straight line,
Speaker 1: if they bied out to you and they say yes, sir,
Speaker 1: that is a form of hazing. I just want to
Speaker 1: explain to people, well why they didn't use a f
Speaker 1: I and you can't. That's hazing. And if you acknowledge
Speaker 1: that use in a movie, then they can come and
Speaker 1: can come back and bite them into some form of
Speaker 1: a lawsuit because they can use that where you acknowledge
Speaker 1: this portrayal in the movie here. So that's why even
Speaker 1: though they members of A five, they can't use it
Speaker 1: because guess what the images that they're portraying in this movie,
Speaker 1: which are very realistic by the way. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying anything negative because guess what it happened to me
Speaker 1: when I pledged to make a fire. In fact, it
Speaker 1: was pretty much worse in certain situation. But you know
Speaker 1: I have nothing negative about that, Benny and Solomon when
Speaker 1: I talk about this, because I will tell you this
Speaker 1: pledge it to makea sat fire. As you probably say,
Speaker 1: pledge in A five, It changed my life, how about you, guys? Uh?
Speaker 1: For me, a hundred percent changed my life. I pledged
Speaker 1: spring one at Temple at University Piro. I was a
Speaker 1: solo pledge, so it was a very very very difficult
Speaker 1: or deal for me and UM, it definitely changed me
Speaker 1: from a boy to a man. I was nineteen years
Speaker 1: old and I had UH, I was a freshman, you
Speaker 1: know a lot of those things you know that I
Speaker 1: was grappling with as a young man. I was molded
Speaker 1: and guided by by my bros, you know, the big
Speaker 1: bros at the time, and so it really changed life,
Speaker 1: guided me, matured me really quickly, and I appreciated every
Speaker 1: single day. You know what I was, what I went
Speaker 1: through when I was able to make it through. How
Speaker 1: about you, Solomon? For me, I had a very similar
Speaker 1: experience with with pledging Alpha fi offa. UM. What I
Speaker 1: showed in the film is not necessarily my exact experience,
Speaker 1: you know. I made it a fixtionalized version for entertainment purposes.
Speaker 1: But the lessons and the values that these organizations UH
Speaker 1: give young men is what I was trying to depict
Speaker 1: through film. UM. And so the journey that my lead
Speaker 1: character takes throughout Tasman and Devil, it's something similar that
Speaker 1: I experienced, you know, gaining self confidence, gaining that brotherhood
Speaker 1: factor that UH that you know, really propels you to
Speaker 1: that next phase of your life, especially as a young man.
Speaker 1: We know, it's interesting Benny, you said you played you
Speaker 1: when you was a freshman. I was a senior when
Speaker 1: I played So you know, they hit me hard. Why
Speaker 1: you wat you long? Why you long? Oh dude, trying
Speaker 1: to pledge all these young people. And but and I
Speaker 1: say that because I was lost, man, And that's what
Speaker 1: I see in this movie. Tasmanian Devil was a young
Speaker 1: man who's loss, trying to find himself. He's from a
Speaker 1: foreign he's from another country. His mom is back in
Speaker 1: the country where he's coming from. His dad. I guess
Speaker 1: it's a disconnect because his dad wasn't with him as
Speaker 1: he grew up and became a man. And so he
Speaker 1: comes over here, and the manhood he receives is really
Speaker 1: from the relationship he creates with these young men in
Speaker 1: the in the in the fraternity. He's trying to pledge,
Speaker 1: and I am I reading it right, that's um, that's
Speaker 1: exactly right. I think that the one thing for me
Speaker 1: when I read the script. You know, Solomon Uh, Solomon's producer,
Speaker 1: Trisia Woodard, got the script to me and and my
Speaker 1: company and we're looking for um producers and financing and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And so when I read the script,
Speaker 1: I was so familiar with the pledge process that that
Speaker 1: wasn't the first thing that jumped out of me. The
Speaker 1: first thing that really jumped out of me was the relationship,
Speaker 1: the father's son relationship in the film, and I felt
Speaker 1: like reading that script. You know, whenever you read a
Speaker 1: piece of material, UM, you try to find the commonality
Speaker 1: of the story that that you think everyone can relate to.
Speaker 1: So everybody can relate to for pledging or hazing, or
Speaker 1: the Black week life or black colleges, but everybody can
Speaker 1: relate to their own relationship or dynamic with their mother
Speaker 1: or father. And to me, that is the strength and
Speaker 1: the foundation of this film, Um, that relationship that you know,
Speaker 1: um where where where Diode comes to America thinking that
Speaker 1: you know, he looked as his dad as a god,
Speaker 1: you know, and he comes to America and he's falls
Speaker 1: very short of that. You know, you're also talking about
Speaker 1: in the film. He's a man of God, he's a
Speaker 1: missionary and a pastor, and so we have that dynamic
Speaker 1: of faith um in the film, which is also something
Speaker 1: that uh, you know, I I'd like to talk about
Speaker 1: in the film because I think it's an important factor
Speaker 1: when when in this story, well you know, it was
Speaker 1: important to me because you know, here's a guy he
Speaker 1: left his family, right, he left his wife. His wife
Speaker 1: had to raise a young man, and we all know
Speaker 1: the dynamics of it importance the men in the boy's life,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't there in those important formative years. And
Speaker 1: basically he was the only reason he came to him.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell the story. It was. It was
Speaker 1: it was kind of like happens that that he actually
Speaker 1: was in the States to be with his father. But
Speaker 1: his father explaining me, Solomon, what were you trying to
Speaker 1: achieve in the in the in the ark of the
Speaker 1: character with the father, because you're the writer and the director,
Speaker 1: what were you achieving in that relationship? Because I hear
Speaker 1: what Benny said, and I'm agreeing with what you're saying, Benny,
Speaker 1: And because my father was a disconnect with me, you know,
Speaker 1: even I loved him to death, you know, and uh,
Speaker 1: but we were not that type father some relationship. Uh.
Speaker 1: For me, when it came to the father of Tasmane
Speaker 1: in Devil, Uh, it kind of mirrored my relationship with
Speaker 1: my father. My my dad is also in the ministry
Speaker 1: and often and often he would leave to Nigeria to
Speaker 1: other countries on missionary trips to uh you know, because
Speaker 1: he he works in um and like radio broadcast and
Speaker 1: in order to kind of you know, spread the message
Speaker 1: of Christ. And so I was looking at that when
Speaker 1: I was when I was growing up, and I was thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, he's leaving his family in order to push
Speaker 1: the gospel, and so you know, his his attention is
Speaker 1: being carried away from things that I thought he should have,
Speaker 1: you know, been at home trying to nurture us as
Speaker 1: we were coming up, but he was instead doing other things.
Speaker 1: So for me, it's like that was the most interesting
Speaker 1: part of of of the character for me, because I
Speaker 1: thought the art there was he puts more value in
Speaker 1: this out is in this external system of religion versus
Speaker 1: his own family, and that's what I was trying to portray. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, we're not being you know, you know, I
Speaker 1: mentioned a different channel as she shows, you've done success
Speaker 1: in the film industry and then you get a project
Speaker 1: that comes to your production company, Tasmanian Devil. You know,
Speaker 1: is it is it the character structure or is the
Speaker 1: content of what the script brought to the table that
Speaker 1: really excited you the most? Or we're just the favorite
Speaker 1: meter ority of the background because you are remember I'm
Speaker 1: aphro firephon. Well, it was a combination of things. I
Speaker 1: think part of um, part of our responsibility as uh
Speaker 1: in these fraternities is something that's important, and I think
Speaker 1: over the years it has gotten lost on on all
Speaker 1: of us, you know, not just alpha's, not just cues.
Speaker 1: All of us we've we've sort of we've taken a
Speaker 1: back seat to what we're supposed to be doing. And
Speaker 1: what we're supposed to be doing is giving back to
Speaker 1: the community. UM, we're supposed to reach back and bring
Speaker 1: other people up. Regardless of what I mean, I would
Speaker 1: have had this film come to me Solomon not been
Speaker 1: an alpha and he was you know, a queue or
Speaker 1: new I would have been involved in the same way
Speaker 1: because that that wasn't the reason why I UM. What
Speaker 1: I wanted to do was to be able to help
Speaker 1: a young man who wanted to be or who is
Speaker 1: a filmmaker tell his story and not be held back
Speaker 1: by what happens when you make a studio movie. When
Speaker 1: producers who've never made a movie before, or never directed
Speaker 1: or never written have all these notes and ideas and
Speaker 1: thoughts and all this stuff and it goes against what
Speaker 1: you want to do creatively, right, So what I what
Speaker 1: I wanted to do was help shepherd him in this
Speaker 1: into this industry in a way where his full vision
Speaker 1: can be achieved. The way he thought about the scenes,
Speaker 1: the way he wrote the scenes, the way he directed
Speaker 1: the scenes, or his vision. At the same time, because
Speaker 1: of the experience I had, I wanted to give him
Speaker 1: some notes and some ideas, But never was I in
Speaker 1: a position where I said, Yo, you gotta take these
Speaker 1: notes or it's gonna be whacked. No. I would offer
Speaker 1: my ideas to him, some he took something he didn't,
Speaker 1: and I respected the respect of them both the same way. Um,
Speaker 1: Because the point of the matter is when you make
Speaker 1: a film, you have to as the director and writer,
Speaker 1: you have to live and die by that film. So
Speaker 1: I was I just wanted him to make sure that
Speaker 1: he was solid and stood solid on the ground and
Speaker 1: the decisions that he made. And my whole goal was
Speaker 1: to be here to support him. And I think it's
Speaker 1: really important to Solomon that you did have someone who
Speaker 1: had the fraternal experience, the pledge experience, because I would
Speaker 1: tell you so Man really enjoyed the movie. I was.
Speaker 1: I smiled because it brought back memories, you know, Zomba trying.
Speaker 1: You know when it was past, you know, when it
Speaker 1: was greed. It was like, you know I was going through,
Speaker 1: if I was going through, see it through, I was
Speaker 1: going it was like you can keep your heading all
Speaker 1: about your losing theirs and blame it wing you. I'm
Speaker 1: going who you know, it was like it was. It
Speaker 1: was the reason I'm excited about it. I wanted to
Speaker 1: highly recommend this movie is because you know it's a
Speaker 1: collegiate journey, because you know that people on the outside
Speaker 1: saw what we experience and then you have the people
Speaker 1: who experienced it and can share that that that firm believed.
Speaker 1: But this is why I feel it was important that
Speaker 1: Benny was part of this, this this bootoo seen in
Speaker 1: uh process because it didn't go over the top. Nothing
Speaker 1: in this movie. I went, that's some crap, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? And we were never do that, dude. It
Speaker 1: stayed on the level plane field. It didn't go to
Speaker 1: the extreme because you know where it can go. But
Speaker 1: it was not nobody's jumping out of a plane, somebody
Speaker 1: dumping out of a call, somebody robbing the store because
Speaker 1: they're trying to get something. Everything that was asked in
Speaker 1: this movie by the young man actually happened to me,
Speaker 1: or I asked somebody to do it for me when
Speaker 1: I became a big brother. That's important, Solomon, and I
Speaker 1: believe it. What's your what's your thoughts on that? Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I just wanted to show almost like a standard view
Speaker 1: of what hazen is. I mean a lot of people
Speaker 1: have seen hazen from other black films like Stump the
Speaker 1: Yard and Spike Lees movie, so we have a knowledge
Speaker 1: of hazing already. I didn't want to get too deep into,
Speaker 1: you know, what different organizations do, because that's not what
Speaker 1: this is about. You know, I created it. I created
Speaker 1: a film that's outside of m P a C. So
Speaker 1: I just wanted to show a generic hazing process or
Speaker 1: pledging process, to use that as a vehicle to to
Speaker 1: show what it's like to to enter this organization and
Speaker 1: then uh comparing, comparing, contrast that to the religious aspects
Speaker 1: of it and to the you know him trying to
Speaker 1: assimilate to American culture. Uh So that's why I kept
Speaker 1: a very surface level. I just showed stuff that people
Speaker 1: probably already know about hazing or pledging. Well, are you
Speaker 1: doing someone? I don't want to. I don't sell yourself short. Um,
Speaker 1: it's about an experience. And and you know as a person,
Speaker 1: and you both you growth air players, you have any
Speaker 1: players by myself, I played with three other brothers. I
Speaker 1: players with a fifth one. But we're going to run.
Speaker 1: And he jumped out of the car while I was
Speaker 1: still moving. So we went down the flour So that's
Speaker 1: how extreme pledging can beat, you know. And then ran
Speaker 1: back to the door when he wasn't gonna get out
Speaker 1: of his bed. I quit. I quit, I'm done. And
Speaker 1: I know the first day, just sharing some experience. I
Speaker 1: did get hit on the first day that were the board.
Speaker 1: I got paddled, you know, because my my, my lyon
Speaker 1: brothers knew. I didn't know them. We're just all pleasure.
Speaker 1: At the same time we're playing cards. They said, look
Speaker 1: look at me, serious now, however many points y'all lose by,
Speaker 1: that's a man time, we're gonna hit him. They were
Speaker 1: really okay. They just the points kept totally. And in
Speaker 1: my mind, I'm going, are they seriously up a hundred
Speaker 1: points here? Damn? You know what I'm saying. And and
Speaker 1: then all real it was a hundred and eighty four
Speaker 1: points they lost. Come on, Come On Down. And I
Speaker 1: got hit a hundred and eighty four times on my
Speaker 1: first day. And I'm not saying that's a badge of courage.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that in that point of life,
Speaker 1: you make decisions. And I think that that's what this
Speaker 1: movie is about. It's a decision making movie. It's a
Speaker 1: decision about relationships. It's a decision about his dad, this
Speaker 1: decision to come over there, it's decision how people look
Speaker 1: at you. When he finally stood up, the homeboard that
Speaker 1: told him he know started calling him names, and he
Speaker 1: stood up for him the first time because he found
Speaker 1: he was soft, because he had a soft tone and
Speaker 1: he wasn't aggressive. This is a really great movie, Solomon.
Speaker 1: And it's not about the levels that you deliver. It's
Speaker 1: the story that you're telling. Man. And Viney, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you played a major role, and I'm and I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to undersell it. I'm just selling it right. Man.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed. I would watch it again because I watched
Speaker 1: it this morning. Whenever I do interviews like this, I
Speaker 1: don't want like to watch a movie three days or
Speaker 1: four day. I like to watch it the day of.
Speaker 1: So I got up at four o'clock this morning and
Speaker 1: I watched the movie and it's entire to the one
Speaker 1: hour and fifty nine minutes. I know. I watched it
Speaker 1: and I enjoyed, and I went, wow, this is really
Speaker 1: good because and the lead character is amazing. That plays
Speaker 1: d He's amazing. Abraham. Yeah, you know one thing too.
Speaker 1: I want to say, the culture of the cultural aspects
Speaker 1: of this film are important. And you know when when
Speaker 1: we made this movie, we didn't. You know, this was
Speaker 1: pre pandemic, this was pre George Floyd and all these things.
Speaker 1: And I think one interesting factor about it is that
Speaker 1: um as as Africans in this diaspora of America, we
Speaker 1: we are finally, I think now, have finally come together
Speaker 1: as one unit where we can look at each other
Speaker 1: as real brothers. And I mean, you know, um Russia.
Speaker 1: You know, we were probably not that far in age,
Speaker 1: and we grew up in a time where, you know,
Speaker 1: if you was African or Haitian or Jamaican or something
Speaker 1: like that, Southern Southern brothers and brother people that grew up.
Speaker 1: I grew up in Philly, but my parents, my father's
Speaker 1: from the South, you know, from Virginia, and my mother's
Speaker 1: from Philly, but she's her parents are from Virginia, North Carolina,
Speaker 1: so southern roots. And we always looked at Africans or
Speaker 1: blacks coming from other places and a little weird, a
Speaker 1: little weird way the way they sounded, the food they
Speaker 1: ate and all these things. And so this is this
Speaker 1: film showed. It showed a little bit of that, but
Speaker 1: it showed the respect factor too. He was like, you're
Speaker 1: from Africa, right, and he says, you got a four
Speaker 1: point oh. And I think that right there showed a
Speaker 1: lot because it changed that little scene changed the dynamic
Speaker 1: of what African Americans think of Afrikaans, right. And I
Speaker 1: think that's important given what we are all going through
Speaker 1: uh in this country right now. And in terms of
Speaker 1: you know, when when that policeman stopped you, he's not
Speaker 1: asking you if your parents are from Nigeria or Houston
Speaker 1: or or Charlotte or you know, or Southfield, Virginia, He's
Speaker 1: they're looking at the black skin. And I think, now
Speaker 1: we we uh at a point in in in this um,
Speaker 1: you know, in this journey of of African people that
Speaker 1: we all together now you know, we could look at
Speaker 1: each other and respect each other. It takes a Lloyd
Speaker 1: took a long time for that, but now we probably
Speaker 1: you know, we can respect each other when we see
Speaker 1: each other, you know. Not when I think about this
Speaker 1: when at four, I remember that scene because they mentioned
Speaker 1: that four point four point or great point that like
Speaker 1: three times in the movie. When I took away from that,
Speaker 1: Solomon and being a would always tell people when you
Speaker 1: have value, when you create value, then there's a need
Speaker 1: or want for you, you know, because people wants to
Speaker 1: be a millionaire, but what's your value? Everybody wants to
Speaker 1: be active? Can you act? And with more basketball? Can
Speaker 1: you dribble? You know? Can you show up for practice
Speaker 1: on time? And to me, that was a strong moment
Speaker 1: for me, for for just young black people in general,
Speaker 1: especially black men. If you create value, then there's a want.
Speaker 1: You create want, then there's a desire to make you
Speaker 1: part of I'll make you a whole part of something
Speaker 1: that's bigger. And that's the whole thing about the tas
Speaker 1: Medon and day of experiences that you know, being our
Speaker 1: players to make as fire. You know, we had the
Speaker 1: cute pearls and all that's all these different layers the
Speaker 1: A K s and all that stuff. I remember the
Speaker 1: scene when there was at the UC Center. We all
Speaker 1: know Wednesday. I don't care what campus you on in America,
Speaker 1: Wednesday noon, Brother, on the campus, that's where you got
Speaker 1: to be on any camps black, h B, c U, White,
Speaker 1: Wednesday noon, not Tusday, Thursday, but Wednesday New So I
Speaker 1: had so many flashbacks in this movie, but it was
Speaker 1: tied to the realism and the portrayal of the college experience,
Speaker 1: because you really gave me the college experience, not only
Speaker 1: from his point of view, for the other young men
Speaker 1: who wanted to fit in. Because you can agree with this, Ben,
Speaker 1: and you went to Temple. I went to the University
Speaker 1: of Houston. So even though it was like we thought
Speaker 1: it was a lot of black people on campus, it
Speaker 1: was only liked of us, right, you know what you
Speaker 1: thought it was. You thought we was like of the campus.
Speaker 1: You know, do you realize it? Thirty five thousand white
Speaker 1: people on this campus. We only and but but that's
Speaker 1: the black experience. But also I remember I became vice
Speaker 1: president's student body and that was because of the black
Speaker 1: sperience allowed me to experience that. But truly, I'm talking
Speaker 1: to you saw the black experience, just talking about what's
Speaker 1: happened in and seeing what happened to Georgian Floyd, George Floyd,
Speaker 1: and watching black men talk you know, used in word
Speaker 1: like they're supposed to us in word on the streets,
Speaker 1: you know, being comfortable in using that. What was your
Speaker 1: whole ultimate goal besides being a personal story that you
Speaker 1: can relate to use a fternity. Remember your dad was
Speaker 1: in the ministry, did radio some form of entertainment. What
Speaker 1: was the ultimate journey for the movie Tasmanian Devil, Um
Speaker 1: with Tasmanian Devil, and also hopefully as I progressed in
Speaker 1: my career, my goal is to show Black people ask
Speaker 1: who we truly are. Um, there's a lot of like
Speaker 1: most of the stuff that that depicts African American culture
Speaker 1: and film is us having to overcome some type of
Speaker 1: system or like racism or slavery. Something that is uh,
Speaker 1: that's something that to fight against. But I just wanted
Speaker 1: to us living our lives, like doing things that we do.
Speaker 1: You know. That's that's that's my voice as a filmmaker.
Speaker 1: That's that's my contribution. I want to make films for
Speaker 1: black people that that that that's just us existing in
Speaker 1: our everyday lives and showing the different things we can do,
Speaker 1: not just having to overcome a white system or being
Speaker 1: inferior to some other kind of race or something like that.
Speaker 1: So with Tasmanian Devil, that's what I was going for
Speaker 1: as I created, As I continue to make films, that's
Speaker 1: what I'll continue to do. So I'm glad that you
Speaker 1: saw that in Tasmanian Devil, because I hope to do
Speaker 1: more of it. Hey, man, I believe me. I saw
Speaker 1: that and more. I saw a talented young man, and
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that, Benny, you're doing that. You know,
Speaker 1: Basically I created money making conversation because so many people
Speaker 1: would ask me to mentor it, you know, and I
Speaker 1: just can't mentor everybody. So I kind of like use
Speaker 1: these interviews I'm doing with you guys as a form
Speaker 1: of mentory. People listened an interview, they grab your experience
Speaker 1: being they grab your experience Solomon, and it becomes a
Speaker 1: possibility those nuggage that you guys dropped doing end you
Speaker 1: Now you talked about script to come your way. You
Speaker 1: created a production company with a fellow fra trading brother,
Speaker 1: Benny talk tell us about your production company. Well, we
Speaker 1: have Groundwork Studios, and it's uh, we created myself and
Speaker 1: Gerald Rawls, who's brother alpha brother from my chapter who
Speaker 1: I pledged, and we you know, from day one, we
Speaker 1: always um said that we we have you know, we
Speaker 1: know that there's something greater that can be done in entertainment.
Speaker 1: So while I was directing videos and having the opportunity
Speaker 1: to do movies and television, I'm also uh opening myself
Speaker 1: up to the next voices and the important It's interesting
Speaker 1: to hear Solomon say that because it's it's funny. This
Speaker 1: is the first time I'm actually hearing his mission statement
Speaker 1: funny enough of what he of what he sees himself
Speaker 1: as a filmmaker, which I think is great because you know,
Speaker 1: when I was trying to come up and make you know,
Speaker 1: from transition from music videos to film, the knock was
Speaker 1: that we didn't want to do anything that was black
Speaker 1: sub jack matter because it really wasn't popular then, right,
Speaker 1: So we were trying to fit in, get in somewhere.
Speaker 1: Um that didn't really happen for me. So the first
Speaker 1: film I did was Next Day Air, which was the
Speaker 1: first feature of Mike's Mike EPs and Wood Harris and
Speaker 1: Ormary Hardwick, which is a very black, very very funny,
Speaker 1: dark comedy. You know that that kind of dealt with
Speaker 1: the drug subject matter, and it was very relatable to
Speaker 1: my life growing up in West Philly in a way. Um.
Speaker 1: And so that although you know, the film is funny
Speaker 1: and people talk about it, you know, had I made
Speaker 1: that film in this climate, it probably would have been
Speaker 1: received more or better or bigger, you know, something like that,
Speaker 1: had more interest in it. But it was just very
Speaker 1: hard at that time to get people interested in black movies.
Speaker 1: And I'm just so glad that I'm able to sit
Speaker 1: here now, um, you know, some fifteen years later from
Speaker 1: that movie almost and be able to help a young
Speaker 1: filmmaker tell his story the way that he wants to
Speaker 1: tell it to too, and give it to the world,
Speaker 1: and and the other great thing. Um, and it's not great,
Speaker 1: But something that's come out of COVID is that we
Speaker 1: don't we don't have to be hampered by the idea
Speaker 1: of um of what you call on theaters of theatrical release.
Speaker 1: And so we can put this film out and give
Speaker 1: it to the audience without having to go through the
Speaker 1: trades and say, oh man, we only made you know,
Speaker 1: three million the first weekend or two million the first
Speaker 1: week those kind of things. That is which I'm really
Speaker 1: happy about. We can actually actually service the audience with
Speaker 1: a great movie and not be worried about, um, what
Speaker 1: the perception is of it based on how many people
Speaker 1: saw it the first weekend. Well, you know exactly what
Speaker 1: it was. What I'm saying, we said all eyes on me.
Speaker 1: It was considered a black movie. It was only basically
Speaker 1: domestically released. It was limited released into foreign selected markets
Speaker 1: maybe England, the Caribbean, maybe South Africa, or Africa in general.
Speaker 1: Where this movie when it's released February nine, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be on the entire it's worldwide release. That's that's what
Speaker 1: I really love about streaming. I'm glad you brought that
Speaker 1: up because our champions streaming, especially when it comes to
Speaker 1: black products, because we're not limited to what somebody says
Speaker 1: we should be seen by only these people really want
Speaker 1: to see your movie. Now. People are everybody seeing your movies.
Speaker 1: And that's important because it's premiering on Amazon, it's premiering
Speaker 1: on that tune and these are international platform Fandango, Google
Speaker 1: Play Off the Horizon. That is the beauty of why
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure I was a part of
Speaker 1: this interview. You know, I'm gonna put it all my
Speaker 1: social media, I'm gonna put it in my newsletter because
Speaker 1: my man, you know, like Bennie said, you are our future.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying being and not ready to die.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that solid okay, but you are our future.
Speaker 1: And it's important that we let you understand. Man. Look,
Speaker 1: it's a whole different game out there because he's right.
Speaker 1: You know, Next Day are funny boy. That ended, but
Speaker 1: they were shooting up everybody that ended, you know, how
Speaker 1: something the movie it's so, but it was, it was,
Speaker 1: it was. It was funny Mike Ebs, that's my boy, Harvard, Harvard,
Speaker 1: all these things, and so it's all about timing. But
Speaker 1: guess what if that moving back there was released domestically,
Speaker 1: if every movie is released right now, the options of
Speaker 1: being able to say I don't like that deal, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take that deal over here because I want my
Speaker 1: product to see be seen by everybody, China, uh, Russia, England, Germany,
Speaker 1: all of Africa, Italy, you know, Brazil. That's what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen to your project. That's why I like your project,
Speaker 1: because you're telling the story to me that's very honest
Speaker 1: and very relatable. And I just want to say congratulations
Speaker 1: Mr Writer, Mr Director, and I'm glad you had an
Speaker 1: EP like Mr Bennie Boone to show you the state
Speaker 1: truth in your story because your story related was relatable
Speaker 1: to me, even at my age. You made me smile.
Speaker 1: That's great. Cool well by, I wanna thank you for
Speaker 1: coming on the show, Solomon or Nita Jr. I'm sure
Speaker 1: here you do in the future. Brother, you'll start on
Speaker 1: the rise. Man, don't stop, man, I appreciate you are
Speaker 1: coming on some money making conversations. Thank you, Rush. I
Speaker 1: appreciate the sign. Man, Thank you so much. Hey man,
Speaker 1: many you know. I know you're gonna have projects in
Speaker 1: the future. I always know you can come to me. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate that. Man. All right there, appa
Speaker 1: appa omega man. We all fraternity to brothers. Okay, Alrighty'll
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Speaker 1: The Juice cair definitions. When life gives you lemons, you
Speaker 1: make lemonade or in this case, you get to juicing.
Speaker 1: She's a food blogger and created eating Anonymous that allows
Speaker 1: her to review restaurants, and she is a serial entrepreneur.
Speaker 1: She started up and off now she's down in the South.
Speaker 1: The Juice Girl business offered the variety of products and
Speaker 1: energize you, boost your immune system, reduced risk of sickness,
Speaker 1: and increase your fruit and vegetable intake. They all ingredient,
Speaker 1: all natural ingredient, rich envitamins, minerals and antioxidants. Please welcome
Speaker 1: to money making Conversation. Brittany Nicholson pickings. Yes, I loved
Speaker 1: that intro. Well, you know I was struggling for some reason.
Speaker 1: I'm gon struggling day. I don't know why, but I've
Speaker 1: I've gotten through the intros. So make sure I have
Speaker 1: a great interview with you. So I'm looking at this
Speaker 1: fantastic I'll see some I'm assuming those are juices in
Speaker 1: front of you. Four tax of juices. I'm asuming right there,
Speaker 1: what type of juices are they? So, okay, let's just
Speaker 1: go through it. Okay, consider the wanted all pack. Okay,
Speaker 1: this one in all pack. I always suggest everybody to
Speaker 1: take if they want to start um detoxing. That's the
Speaker 1: first step on detoxing is the water off. Let's stop
Speaker 1: right there. What's exactly a detoxic detoxing? Basically, it's just
Speaker 1: gonna cleanse your body, take all the toxins out. So
Speaker 1: a lot of times we use natural juices. It just
Speaker 1: right away, like right if your body is not used
Speaker 1: to eating, help, So it basically flushes your system out,
Speaker 1: system out. Just I'm talking about shot mcdonaldad because sometimes
Speaker 1: I feel a little bloated, Like after I came out
Speaker 1: of Thanksgiving weekend, I felt a little bloated, detoxed. Okay, cool, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: okay cool. Definitlybe the times. So let me just go
Speaker 1: through what we have here. So this is the Green Goddess.
Speaker 1: This has five fruits and vegetables. It has kale, kiwi, cucumber, lemon,
Speaker 1: and pineapple. You know, it sounds a little nasty because
Speaker 1: it has a lot in it, but it tastes very
Speaker 1: very good. This is the Carrot Paradise. So the care
Speaker 1: Paradise has pineapple, lemon, and carrots in it. It has
Speaker 1: the beat berry. The beat berry is a little bit
Speaker 1: hard to drink because it has ginger in it. It's
Speaker 1: just it means you're a little harder to drink because
Speaker 1: it has ginger. And what does gender? What does ginger
Speaker 1: doing to make it harder to drink? Is it tangy
Speaker 1: or is it u? Ginger is very strong, especially to
Speaker 1: ginger that I use. But it has like I think
Speaker 1: it's ninety two minerals, vitamins and minerals in it. Um
Speaker 1: it's very very good for your immune system. I love gender.
Speaker 1: So like this is like one of the ginger shops
Speaker 1: that I I always that I suggest. It's called of
Speaker 1: Boost Me Up. Basically has the honey, the lemon, and
Speaker 1: it also has the ginger in awesome the wheat grass.
Speaker 1: So the wheat grass has wheat grass and ginger. I've
Speaker 1: been here about wheat grass, you know, for I remember
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey used to always drink way back in two
Speaker 1: thousands when everything wheat grass. Okay, I've tried the wheat grass.
Speaker 1: Now what exactly does the wheat grass do for you?
Speaker 1: Uh So, basically what a reat grass do for you
Speaker 1: is it has a lot of vitamin and middles as well,
Speaker 1: and it definitely helps boost your immune system. A lot
Speaker 1: of things green cleans you out. Like immediately here is
Speaker 1: the Kickstar. So this one is a little tangy. So
Speaker 1: if you like citrus, which is oranges which has vitamin C,
Speaker 1: really like this one. You would like this one. And
Speaker 1: it has oranges, lemons and then also pineapple juice in
Speaker 1: it fresh pineapple, um fresh. I use a lot of
Speaker 1: fresh pineapple, you know people. So one thing about my
Speaker 1: business is I customize your juices. So I want pineapple,
Speaker 1: I won't put pineapple if you do not want If
Speaker 1: you want more ginger, just say in the notes I
Speaker 1: want more ginger. You just let me know and I'll
Speaker 1: make it how you are. Okay. So if I wanted
Speaker 1: just so, you show me four juices. If I wanted
Speaker 1: juice number one and juice number four of what you
Speaker 1: presented to us, I can just order those. Yes, so
Speaker 1: everything you can order one of one M minimum order
Speaker 1: for delivery. So I out here in Atlanta, I have
Speaker 1: a delivery service. Okay. I make sure I come to
Speaker 1: your door and I drop off your juices. UM. Minimum
Speaker 1: to juices per order. Most likely a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Usually these are my top sellers. Artists and the Care
Speaker 1: Paradise are my top sellers. Um. A lot of people
Speaker 1: think they're the top sellers. Why do you think there's
Speaker 1: two of the top sellers, and remind people what they
Speaker 1: have in them that makes them the top sellers. Um.
Speaker 1: I think it's because they taste really good and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of benefits. So this one has five roots
Speaker 1: and vegetables, and then this one has three, but both
Speaker 1: of these together. A lot of the time, if people
Speaker 1: buy them as their detoxing, and they buy them in
Speaker 1: the gallon. I sell them in the gallon as well.
Speaker 1: Now there's one detox does that is that considered weight
Speaker 1: loss when you detox. So also with detoxing is weight loss.
Speaker 1: So you can lose a few inches to your stomach. Okay,
Speaker 1: I can always do with that. I'll just let you
Speaker 1: know that. So if I have to go through the process,
Speaker 1: how much is each bottle? And if I bought more
Speaker 1: than one bottle, are there any discounts? So there there
Speaker 1: aren't any discounts. Some times I do like I'll add
Speaker 1: it like I should drink shot time. So each juice
Speaker 1: cost twelve dollars, and when I sell the gallon, the
Speaker 1: gallon is seventy dollars. So the gallon is like a
Speaker 1: huge gallon of juice. And it's usually you can you
Speaker 1: can detox for about a week or two with the GAG.
Speaker 1: The shelf life is three to five days. So you
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to get a you wouldn't want to like
Speaker 1: to get like fifteen bolls. You want to bottom like
Speaker 1: on a weekly or two week basis right by. So
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna start within the new year is I'm
Speaker 1: going to do a membership program where everyone can because
Speaker 1: they can't described and every week they will get a
Speaker 1: delivery of juicing. Wow, that's pretty hot. That's pretty hardy.
Speaker 1: So let's let's talk about Let's go back down. We
Speaker 1: know you got the product. How did all this get started?
Speaker 1: I'm talking to the Brittany. You know, she's the founder.
Speaker 1: She is the juice girl. She has a fantastic poster
Speaker 1: of her in the background. She has these roses in
Speaker 1: front of her. She has four fantastic popular juice drinks
Speaker 1: in front of her. The first two that she talked about.
Speaker 1: It just reminded of her popular ones in the Atlanta area.
Speaker 1: That's where you based. You can deliver that. Okay? What
Speaker 1: is each bottle? The cost of each bottle? The cost
Speaker 1: of these fallows swall dollars? Okay, cool? Okay cool. So
Speaker 1: I if Rushane McDonald said, hey, I finued this interview,
Speaker 1: I said, look, I want to order two bottles. I
Speaker 1: can get them delivered to my office today. Yes, you
Speaker 1: can get them to that. Well, you'll be hearing from
Speaker 1: me after this call. Perfect. I mean then I also
Speaker 1: have on my website. I don't want to forget those.
Speaker 1: I have two other drinks pineapple ginger. And then I
Speaker 1: also have a it's called a sunrise, was it? Why
Speaker 1: don't I forget it? A Paradise Sunrise basically has pineapples
Speaker 1: and strawberry. I use that more so as a refreshing drink.
Speaker 1: So you can add alcohol if you want to to
Speaker 1: that one, because a lot of people lying fresh juice,
Speaker 1: they go healthy and drunk. Healthy drunkness. That's what you
Speaker 1: picture right there. Brittany on peaches, So I also had peach.
Speaker 1: It was it was delicious. So like for certain events
Speaker 1: where they want my juices, I usually add Georgia peach
Speaker 1: basically had fresh peaches hair, and then it had peach rock.
Speaker 1: And then you did an Apple crisp and it had
Speaker 1: fresh apples pineapple in apple's rock. So I do go
Speaker 1: for like a special of it. Okay, cool. Now I
Speaker 1: want to come back to the question. I kind of
Speaker 1: like stumbled over it and was asking how did all
Speaker 1: this get started? You know, well, you're working a full
Speaker 1: time job and you quit your four time job talking
Speaker 1: about what you're doing in part time developments while you're
Speaker 1: working four times Because I want to tell people, don't
Speaker 1: quit your four time job. Do you have an option
Speaker 1: that the job you're going through the opportunity to go
Speaker 1: into it's real. So talking about hot just let's go
Speaker 1: through the history of how Juice Girl got started. Okay,
Speaker 1: So when Juice Carl got started. UM, so background story.
Speaker 1: In February, my mother passed away. I'm sorry to hear
Speaker 1: that my mother passed away. And I was working a
Speaker 1: full time job as executive assistant for a CEO of
Speaker 1: a global manufacturing company. Looking in corporate. I've been working
Speaker 1: in corporate for about fifteen years, and I all of
Speaker 1: a sudden decided what am I here in New York for, Like,
Speaker 1: I need to start a new life. I want to move.
Speaker 1: So I decided to move to Atlanta. I feel like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of opportunities out here in Atlanta and
Speaker 1: it's more progressive for you know us and um and
Speaker 1: I love to see I just love to see so
Speaker 1: many black entrepreneurs and like, let's let's just go and
Speaker 1: only child. I don't have any kids, so I said,
Speaker 1: let's go. So I moved to Atlanta in July and
Speaker 1: I started the Juice Girl literally in July or more
Speaker 1: towards August, and I was just like, okay, let's go.
Speaker 1: So I've already did always did the food blogging for
Speaker 1: the longest on my charge for food blocks. On my blog,
Speaker 1: it's called Eating Underscore Anonymous, and basically I travel around
Speaker 1: different cities and give you a real reactions for reviews
Speaker 1: to different restaurants and what's good in their on their
Speaker 1: menu and stuff like that. So then I just said, hey,
Speaker 1: we're in during a pandemic. One thing, I realized a
Speaker 1: lot of restaurants were closed. The only thing that I
Speaker 1: really see that was open were juice places. I was
Speaker 1: just like, this is something we need to boost our
Speaker 1: immune system. Is mainly boosting your immune system with a
Speaker 1: lot of fruit and vegetable intake. All my juices have
Speaker 1: all fruits, all vegetables, no water added. A lot of
Speaker 1: businesses put water in their juices and they're not a natural.
Speaker 1: A lot of business don't you put sea moss and
Speaker 1: their juices. All my juices have sea moss. That's why
Speaker 1: the prices at twelve dollars. So I just I just
Speaker 1: started it and I just decided let's go with it.
Speaker 1: And it's actually been going and I'm excited. They're just
Speaker 1: starting your kitchen. You start in a lab. How did
Speaker 1: this just start in my kitchen. I started actually in
Speaker 1: this kitchen. Actually I started in this kitchen and then
Speaker 1: now I just brand a space in a shared kitchen
Speaker 1: to make all my juices. Okay, so you make your juices,
Speaker 1: are you you've not gotten to a distributor yet or
Speaker 1: the trash. The next step within the new year is
Speaker 1: UM I have a manufacturing working on my UM ingredients
Speaker 1: to perfect my juices. Because what the next step is.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be in Hopefoods, So I'm going to
Speaker 1: change the label and everything like that and hopefully within
Speaker 1: January Febora and hopefully. Let's just so not that's about
Speaker 1: that's about marketing in Brandon, getting up your volume of
Speaker 1: sales and things like that. But it's something you're saying.
Speaker 1: It's very important. We all know when the COVID right now,
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen and it a virtually affects overtly affects the
Speaker 1: African American community of people of color. And you you
Speaker 1: decided to launch Okay, what made you? I know your
Speaker 1: fact you, Sery Shane. I saw juice places open up
Speaker 1: there and it's good for your immune system. But that's
Speaker 1: a degree of fear. That's a degree of unknown. What
Speaker 1: made you the step path, the fear and the unknown.
Speaker 1: I'm fearless. One of those people is like, let's just
Speaker 1: let's just go and I know what's you know? So
Speaker 1: a lot of the times, a lot of one thing,
Speaker 1: I've realized a lot of people aren't. You don't know
Speaker 1: about juicing. They don't know the benefits. They don't know
Speaker 1: about sea moss, they don't know about ginger, they don't
Speaker 1: know about health. You know, it's important, not even just
Speaker 1: boosting your immune system is important to start eating right.
Speaker 1: Once we get a certain age, we have to change
Speaker 1: our eating habits. We really have to eat differently. These
Speaker 1: you won't even think. This green juice right here can
Speaker 1: make clean out your system, get rid of the toxins,
Speaker 1: and just make you feel a lot better. So if
Speaker 1: you drink this juice, you take a vitamin daily vitamin
Speaker 1: they has mass in it. You should you should be okay.
Speaker 1: You know, the COVID thing is very very serious. It's
Speaker 1: it's not it's not even a game. Um. Getting a
Speaker 1: cold or getting the flu is serious, very serious as well,
Speaker 1: because then it changed, it goes into pneumonia. It's just
Speaker 1: like all these different steps we need to you know,
Speaker 1: chop out. You know, we avoid, we need to void.
Speaker 1: So it's really important to really just really realize, Hey,
Speaker 1: this this is real. We need to boostar immune systems.
Speaker 1: We need to either if taking sea moss every day
Speaker 1: if you don't want to juice. So another thing is there.
Speaker 1: In the new year, I'm going to have like a
Speaker 1: twenty dollar subscription. Every week, I'm gonna come out with
Speaker 1: a new juice, the new ingredient. I'm gonna show everybody
Speaker 1: how to juice because a lot of people are like,
Speaker 1: they don't think it's a necessity. They don't think it's important.
Speaker 1: So they're like, oh, I have a juice at home.
Speaker 1: I could juice. Yeah, I juice. A lot of people go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I juice. I choose, but then they try my juice
Speaker 1: and they're like, wait, this is good. I'm like, but
Speaker 1: what did you put in it? I'm like, hey, hold on.
Speaker 1: In the year, I'm going to have a system where
Speaker 1: you guys can subscribe and I can show you how
Speaker 1: to juice. I'm gonna give you the tools of juicing.
Speaker 1: Because you're not giving away any secrets, Like McDonald didn't
Speaker 1: give away these secret songs. You know, so you know
Speaker 1: it's this is good, this is different because I have
Speaker 1: a juicer. Look at it, it's brand new. Your boy
Speaker 1: has never juiced. Okay, in theory, that's why I told you.
Speaker 1: We we finished his interview, I will be calling you
Speaker 1: because I I like to, because I immediately when ran
Speaker 1: through my mind was I need to I need to
Speaker 1: free the toxins in my body. You know, I felt bloated.
Speaker 1: I actually picked up five pounds over the over the
Speaker 1: thanks to even holidays, and so I didn't know what
Speaker 1: to do and so but I also knew that I
Speaker 1: wanted to flush my system basically what I'm doing with
Speaker 1: the toxin. And so again, tell everybody again because I
Speaker 1: want people. Every year, a lot of people hear stuff.
Speaker 1: In the beginning, they want to, then they forget. They
Speaker 1: subscribe each one of the four juices that you have
Speaker 1: on display in your store online. Okay, so everything is
Speaker 1: based off online. Um. So basically, here is the Cara Paradise.
Speaker 1: So the care Paradise has carrots, clemming in pineapple. Here
Speaker 1: is the Green Goddess. The Green Goddess has kal kiwi, cucumber,
Speaker 1: lemon and pineapple. That's a little bitter than the first
Speaker 1: one right from a thing the good. They're both good
Speaker 1: because kale and q comba okay, sale is very bitter,
Speaker 1: but the pineapple over a pineapple and the lemon just
Speaker 1: cover it over. You're not even gonna know that. Okay,
Speaker 1: And those first two you just mentioned are your most
Speaker 1: popular brands. Most popular, um, A lot of people bodies
Speaker 1: in the gallon for de tap so the de tacting
Speaker 1: so basically they can drink the green for breakfast, the
Speaker 1: orange the carrot for for lunch, and they have like
Speaker 1: a light sound, have an oatmeal for breakfast. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just certain things, you know. I even started eating
Speaker 1: veggie burgers. I don't eat I eat less meat. I
Speaker 1: love steak though, but I love start eating more like
Speaker 1: vegetarian plant based pace. But I love the steak, so
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta cut it down. Like I love
Speaker 1: Coca Cola, I don't anymore. I use it as I
Speaker 1: consider it as actual. So when I stay for Christmas,
Speaker 1: I'm having a Coca Polar just to look in ask
Speaker 1: and you know, not too much, but I love the
Speaker 1: taste of it tastes with steak. But now we have
Speaker 1: the beat berries has freshly pressed beef and it has ginger.
Speaker 1: And then it also has blueberries and strawberries. You can't
Speaker 1: take the brulberries and strawberries more so on the beatberry,
Speaker 1: we just taste strong ginger. This is the only drink
Speaker 1: that has well. This drink and the ginger pineapple have
Speaker 1: ginger in it. And I'm gonna tell you a funny
Speaker 1: story right after this. So then also we have the Kickstart.
Speaker 1: The Kickstart has it's more the citrus dividing and seed.
Speaker 1: It has the oranges, the lemon, and the pineapple. So
Speaker 1: and then the weak Crash that sounds like my favorite
Speaker 1: right there with the oranges, the lemons and the pineapple.
Speaker 1: That sounds like my favorite right there, Brittany. It's very
Speaker 1: very tangy because this this freshly pressed oranges is so
Speaker 1: like like it wakes me up. So I always tell
Speaker 1: everybody drink this in the morning as a morning bra.
Speaker 1: I think I would want that one for sure, for
Speaker 1: sure that that was because I love oranges, I love pineapples,
Speaker 1: and I know lemon that's acidic, Like I said that
Speaker 1: that's acidic right there. That would knock down that sweetness
Speaker 1: in there. But that's uh, you got three out of four,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm all over, I got I gotta punch. I
Speaker 1: want to buy a button of this is considered the
Speaker 1: one and all past. So this is a three to
Speaker 1: four day detox. So I always tell everybody the first
Speaker 1: two days of us trying to detox a body and
Speaker 1: tell them I want you to drink a juice and
Speaker 1: a shot all. So basically, once you do your purchase,
Speaker 1: I give you guys, I send you guys a message
Speaker 1: telling you exactly what I want you. So, so you
Speaker 1: gotta send me not only a juice but also a shot. Yes,
Speaker 1: well you did. Now you got some extra stuff coming
Speaker 1: on the side here. So I get a juice in
Speaker 1: the shop per day with this want wanted all pack,
Speaker 1: you get too shots and you get four juices. Okay, cool?
Speaker 1: So this shop talking very serious here because I want
Speaker 1: to get our to day is Monday, okay, so I
Speaker 1: have I'll be able to do a Tuesday win is
Speaker 1: the Thursday Friday of this week? Correct, So on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: I get my package today. Okay, what would I do
Speaker 1: when I wake up in the morning. So when you
Speaker 1: wake in the morning, the first juice I want you
Speaker 1: to drink is the green Okay, I want you to
Speaker 1: do a green juice, and I want you to do
Speaker 1: the boost Me up shot because I want us to
Speaker 1: get your body ready for what's next. So then the
Speaker 1: second day, I always say the care of Paradise and
Speaker 1: the weak Grass shot, right okay. Then the third day
Speaker 1: I always say, in the morning, I want you to
Speaker 1: drink the Beats. You cannot drink the Beats. You would
Speaker 1: drink the Bet for breakfast or the Beat for lunch.
Speaker 1: I do not want you to drink the Beats at
Speaker 1: night because it will keep you up, okay, but I
Speaker 1: can still eat normal food. You can still eat normal food.
Speaker 1: That ginger is very strong. So every so after you're
Speaker 1: doing that, the fourth day, I want you to drink
Speaker 1: the Kickstar. Right in between of all the drinking the juice.
Speaker 1: In the morning, I want you to drink water. I
Speaker 1: prefer essentia water because it's alkaline. You don't have to
Speaker 1: have essentia per se, but I want you to drink
Speaker 1: alkaline water because alkaline helps flesh your body. So so
Speaker 1: this normal bottom water wouldn't do it. I like alkaline
Speaker 1: is the piece diff Your pa is different. I'm trust
Speaker 1: me your pea and cleaning out your kidneys is so
Speaker 1: much different when you start drinking alkaline water. The only
Speaker 1: water I drink is either core or essential. Now I
Speaker 1: drink a lot of water period. I love drinking water,
Speaker 1: you know. That's a big thing with me, drinking water.
Speaker 1: And so when I'm looking at this plan you have
Speaker 1: in place, you know, you got a product. How did
Speaker 1: you get to the point that you can mix all
Speaker 1: these together though? And realize that you you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you know. I got to ask these questions, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know, just a regular person walking around and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you got an idea and you're
Speaker 1: mixing juices and you got a product line. How did
Speaker 1: the product line get started? Did you experiment idea? Okay,
Speaker 1: I was an idea, and then I took myself to
Speaker 1: the farmer's market. I said, okay, let's buy a bunch
Speaker 1: of fruits. What goes with what? So at first, when
Speaker 1: I first it was so funny. It was the construction
Speaker 1: workers outside of my building. He see me all these
Speaker 1: bottles and he said, what are you doing? I said,
Speaker 1: I'm the juice girl. Mind you, I didn't even start
Speaker 1: the juice girl. I didn't even start it, but I
Speaker 1: knew once I said it. He said, oh yeah, well
Speaker 1: when did you juice? When are you ready? I said, Monday,
Speaker 1: mind you. I didn't have any idea on what was
Speaker 1: going with what, but I had a plan. So on Monday.
Speaker 1: So on Sunday I got all these fruits. I started
Speaker 1: mixing all these fruits. I had all these jugs with
Speaker 1: different fruits in them. So then I'm like, okay, let's
Speaker 1: put this with this. Put up one cup. I have
Speaker 1: muddering cups and everything. I'm measuring everything. I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what goes with what. So the first
Speaker 1: round I put ginger in everything. Obviously, by the way
Speaker 1: you said that, that wasn't a good move. That wasn't
Speaker 1: a good move. So then I realized, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: hold on, we cannot put ginger in everything because it
Speaker 1: burns like it's burning like it's just it's it's automatically
Speaker 1: making you go to bathroom. So this is not gonna work. Um,
Speaker 1: So now I started again. I said, okay, round two,
Speaker 1: let's try it again. So then I just started mixing
Speaker 1: with So for me, pineapple is like my natural sugar,
Speaker 1: so that we'll just take take away the taste for
Speaker 1: the care and the green and make it taste much better.
Speaker 1: They mean, it's just something that needs to be basically everything. Okay,
Speaker 1: because like this boost me up. Shot, if you have
Speaker 1: a cold, this ginger lemon and honey is going to
Speaker 1: knock that cold out. You're not You're no longer going
Speaker 1: to have a cold. So like two or three days
Speaker 1: of this to three days of a ginger pineapple juice,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be okay, you know. I mean it's all natural.
Speaker 1: You have to really start going into the more of
Speaker 1: the natural route instead it's depending on medicine, you know, absolutely,
Speaker 1: Now you have to I want to transition a little
Speaker 1: bit because I know before a wrapper for any of
Speaker 1: you are we missed. We talked about you being a
Speaker 1: blogger food blogger, and we talked about that. We all
Speaker 1: know you're serial entrepreneur out there making juices in your kitchen.
Speaker 1: Now you also have a uh all purpose seasonal. Rob,
Speaker 1: tell us about that and how that got started? How
Speaker 1: did I bring it? Hold on, I gotta gonna get it.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Okay, Now she's got
Speaker 1: an all purpose to see, Rob, there's really popular. And
Speaker 1: now she didn't know I was gonna bring it up
Speaker 1: obviously now because I'm a I'm a big cook guy,
Speaker 1: and so I love rubes. I love seasonal. When you
Speaker 1: p your water all pat, I'll make sure I'll playing
Speaker 1: a pre person. Let's talk about this all season in row.
Speaker 1: How did they get started? Oh my god. So I'm
Speaker 1: a foodie. I love to eat um. I always like
Speaker 1: seasoning on my food. I like who that has it
Speaker 1: taste to it. I like to see the seasoning. So
Speaker 1: that's why I like steak because like during the quarantine
Speaker 1: on Sundays, I always used to have steak on the
Speaker 1: groom like it was like my thing, are you are
Speaker 1: your medium or what type of level of steak person
Speaker 1: are you? I like it, Christie, so just do me
Speaker 1: me and well you know you're you're a well done person.
Speaker 1: I like it burn like burn. Some people get mad
Speaker 1: at you. You go in the steakhoumes, they get mad
Speaker 1: at you. They always mad at me when I go
Speaker 1: to steakhouse. My lamb chops because I like the bird.
Speaker 1: But I just like the seasoning. I like I like
Speaker 1: when there's burn and it tastes fresh women on there.
Speaker 1: So my of purpose seasoning rug basically had a little
Speaker 1: bit of everything. So every I sold almost eighty bottles
Speaker 1: already of this. It sells for twenty dollars um. It
Speaker 1: literally has fresh cilantro garlic. The list goes on and
Speaker 1: on everything that's in here. I think it's about twenty
Speaker 1: three ingredients that are in here. Um. I basically came
Speaker 1: up with this because I said, Hey, I have a
Speaker 1: food blog. I love to eat. I love steak, I
Speaker 1: love fish, I love lamb chop, birch steak, birch steak. Okay,
Speaker 1: every time I'm like, excuse me to make sure burn
Speaker 1: like that. I work at Burger King, and the people
Speaker 1: will come through there, they go, okay, run it through that.
Speaker 1: They've patty through the through a little grillo. No, run
Speaker 1: it through again. They asked me to run it through
Speaker 1: four times. They wanted burn, they wanted like crispy, I
Speaker 1: mean charred, and then she because I just get people
Speaker 1: a background on steaks. Now you go to a steak place,
Speaker 1: they really want you to do rare are are a medium.
Speaker 1: Once you start going past medium, they start frowning on you.
Speaker 1: When you start using the word well done. They go,
Speaker 1: while you come here, while you come you just use
Speaker 1: just cooking all the juices and the flavor out of
Speaker 1: the meat. So what she says she wants well or
Speaker 1: done a charge. They look, they go back in the kitchen,
Speaker 1: go got another one out there? Why she here? Because
Speaker 1: it just drives all the juices. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with what she does, because you buy, you
Speaker 1: buy your you have your flavor, you're paying for you
Speaker 1: get what you want. But that's what they want to steakhouse.
Speaker 1: They want you to have a rare selection or a
Speaker 1: medium selection. Once you get past that, they started telling
Speaker 1: you in the sense that you're you're you're drying the
Speaker 1: steak out. You you're losing all the juices out of it,
Speaker 1: and your meat is gonna be dark. And once you
Speaker 1: get to a dark meat, then you have nothing but
Speaker 1: just tough meat. And so but you love that every time.
Speaker 1: I hear it every time. But I just say cool.
Speaker 1: Before we get on, let's wrap it up, juice girl.
Speaker 1: We're talking about talking to Brittany about her wonderful success
Speaker 1: and starting to the kitchen. She moved from up North.
Speaker 1: Now she's in the Atlanta tearing it up. If you're
Speaker 1: in the Atlanta area, she can deliver this. If you're
Speaker 1: buy at least two bottles, bottles of twelve, nine and
Speaker 1: nine each, right, and we discussed twelve each and then
Speaker 1: she says a little shot. If you buy the four pack,
Speaker 1: you get two shots, allow you to She has a
Speaker 1: system in place that you can win with. I myself,
Speaker 1: ra Sean McDonald will be investing in her four pack
Speaker 1: so I can get by two shots. She's gonna throw
Speaker 1: in a little free ball com from her battle of Rub,
Speaker 1: so I'm winning twice. She had to go off camera
Speaker 1: to get the rub to come back on fourteen kitchen
Speaker 1: start that big, so she got back real quick. Thank
Speaker 1: you coming on the show. You have a website, Tell
Speaker 1: us about your website and your social media. So my
Speaker 1: website on social media is ww dot the Juice Girl
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