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Speaker 1: six years traveling around the country as a team chasing ghosts.
Speaker 1: You hear what I'm saying, ghosts Together. Now, the Ghost
Speaker 1: Brothers are coming together to bring you the first paranormal
Speaker 1: podcast from Discovery Plus called Urban Legends with the Ghost Brothers,
Speaker 1: which launched this mother as well. So we're catching it
Speaker 1: in the process because it's only gonna be ten episodes.
Speaker 1: Daylyn started this whole paranormal adventure after he had dreamed
Speaker 1: that he had dreamed about it and he should be
Speaker 1: exploring the unknown. So he convinced Juan that they should
Speaker 1: hunt ghost Now. I don't know how you wake a
Speaker 1: brother up and convey another black man convinced another black
Speaker 1: man they should be hunting ghosts. So you know, right there,
Speaker 1: there's some different black friends. They're different black men. You know,
Speaker 1: one brother he said yeah. But first of all, let's
Speaker 1: he said yeah. Then they brought in another black dude
Speaker 1: named Marcus. He said yeah too. On the show today,
Speaker 1: they would talk about the craziest myth and legends with
Speaker 1: the help of top paranormal investigative celebrities and friends. Please
Speaker 1: welcome to Money Making Conversations. The host of Urban Legends
Speaker 1: with the Ghost Brothers podcast Thinglas Spratt, Joan miss and
Speaker 1: Marcus Harvey. How you doing, fellas man less? You know,
Speaker 1: rarely do I mess up an intro like that, man,
Speaker 1: So I'm just excited to get to you guys, you know,
Speaker 1: especially off air when Marcus told me he does stand
Speaker 1: up comedy. Is that true, Marcus, Hey, google it. It's
Speaker 1: very easy to google. Okay, just daylad just pushed back
Speaker 1: when I said that day isn't for real. Listen, listen, man,
Speaker 1: I know follow Marcus all over the country going to
Speaker 1: his stand up shows. Man, I'll tell you he kills them.
Speaker 1: He kills it. And that's why we're good at the
Speaker 1: paranormal because I'm very I'm very solident knowing how to
Speaker 1: find people after I kill him. Oh my god. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me get off of this ability right now. What
Speaker 1: your Dylan is your is your jersey? That says so HBCU.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing that's credibility right now. After you
Speaker 1: just backed up Marcus Jawan, you want to talk on
Speaker 1: this before we move on about to standard commented career.
Speaker 1: He's the next Day of Chappelle. Man, Listen, he is
Speaker 1: the next Marcus Harvey, I'm telling you right now, my
Speaker 1: brother ain't out here explaining to himself because it's true.
Speaker 1: It's so his confidence is so silent. I've heard him.
Speaker 1: He's killing him with these jokes. Okay, cool, now, I
Speaker 1: will admit this fellas. You know, it's a trio. You guys.
Speaker 1: You know all they all met on the campus of
Speaker 1: Clark Atlanta University. Marcus couldn't have Jiwan and Dylan there
Speaker 1: was attending school. They attended school so long that they pledged,
Speaker 1: or I would say the great fraternity, consider the all
Speaker 1: black fraternity, these great calf Alpha side. You know you
Speaker 1: got the Alphas. I think, of course, I remember making
Speaker 1: side fire as well. I got the news that we're
Speaker 1: only talking about Queues and Cappus right now. The cap
Speaker 1: has got are going on because they got two brothers
Speaker 1: starring on the television show and discovery for us along
Speaker 1: with Marcus. Now, Marcus, I'm a part of the Cutters fraternity.
Speaker 1: I never say again again. Stop all that. You know.
Speaker 1: I'm about to give you some some humor you're talking
Speaker 1: about because if you watch the series, the Ghost Brothers series,
Speaker 1: the comedy relief always comes from you. Market I give
Speaker 1: you blessings on that. Brother. You are very entertaining and
Speaker 1: very funny in this series. Now, when I start breaking
Speaker 1: down characters, the analytical one always seems to be dayling
Speaker 1: your character and you wa. You sit back there like
Speaker 1: you like the world World War War slow down type? Brother?
Speaker 1: Am I right? And describing your personalities? I think that's
Speaker 1: pretty spot on, that spot on. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: if you wanted something up in five words. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: since we on this podcast and we get to use many,
Speaker 1: many words, we can give you a little bit more. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I apologize. I'll just tell from my perspective. Ghost Brothers. Okay, yeah, Marcus,
Speaker 1: describe your character on the show. Describe your character on
Speaker 1: the Ghost Brothers series. Marcus, Okay, I'll do this. I'll
Speaker 1: do you one better. I'll describe Juwan Jowan's approach to it.
Speaker 1: Juan brings um daring this to our show. He brings
Speaker 1: darinness to our investigations. He's never scared, but he does
Speaker 1: get startled, which is two different things. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's two different things. He just always is
Speaker 1: on alert so he can get started. He's always ready
Speaker 1: for something, but he's always ready to actually go into
Speaker 1: whatever we need to go into. Uh. Typically he's always
Speaker 1: down to go investigate. I mean this man probably go
Speaker 1: to the to the edge of hill to investigate something,
Speaker 1: to see something really happened, and and still keep us
Speaker 1: through and clean because he just don't do man. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you want brings to the show.
Speaker 1: You know, he's intelligent, he asked great questions, he's very thorough.
Speaker 1: He just dope. So Jawan, give me feedback on Marcus Man.
Speaker 1: He didn't lie, he didn't lie. I'll tell you that
Speaker 1: my man is gonna tell the truth and shame the devil.
Speaker 1: That's how Marcus be investigating. He's consistent in his uh,
Speaker 1: in his approach to the paranormal. Um, he's always there
Speaker 1: to offer uh that comedy relief as you said. But
Speaker 1: like Marcus is is like we we all have our names, right,
Speaker 1: I'm the paranormal poppy. Dylan is the bad boy of
Speaker 1: paranormal and Marcus is the soul brother, right Like he's
Speaker 1: the one that everybody kind of gravitates towards. He brings
Speaker 1: his comfort and and and comedy that that you need
Speaker 1: in these particular moments. Uh. And he's never afraid to
Speaker 1: be vulnerable. And he holds that that hat very well,
Speaker 1: very well. Now now Dayla, tell me about your character
Speaker 1: on the show. The ghost part of the series. Be
Speaker 1: we going into the podcast, right, So, I'm what they
Speaker 1: call the sex symbol of the group. I believe that.
Speaker 1: I believe every tree, every trio needs one. And that's
Speaker 1: from the camera. Boy, Hey, you know what you want
Speaker 1: When you start lying, you get close, you get close,
Speaker 1: you start lying. You ever know that you start lying,
Speaker 1: you get real close to people. You see lying? Man,
Speaker 1: that's number one sad when people started they get real close,
Speaker 1: you go, hey, man, back off, back off, brother, we
Speaker 1: got to be that close. He saw left it out.
Speaker 1: The bio left it out like I'm gonna go ahead,
Speaker 1: chake that. I'm gonna be the sex symple. Go. That's
Speaker 1: what happens when you chase too many ghosts. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you got that stuff. You know, some ghost has been
Speaker 1: talking to you in the wrong ear. You see, you're sexy.
Speaker 1: Come into this room, You're sexy. So some people called
Speaker 1: it to Beyonce of the group. I'm just trying to say,
Speaker 1: I'm killing I'm gonna be killing killing Kelly today I'm
Speaker 1: Kelly today. I love it. Now I'm going back to Jawan.
Speaker 1: Now that those names you said, you know, you said
Speaker 1: soul brother, you said he's the paring On Poppy and
Speaker 1: who is Daylan? The what do you wipe it off with? Baby?
Speaker 1: The bad? This is the this is the part. This
Speaker 1: the part that gonna disappoint me in the podcast because
Speaker 1: people don't get to see y'all crazy. But see, I
Speaker 1: love to see because see when I watched the show
Speaker 1: that's I enjoyed. I was dead on because what you said,
Speaker 1: use short description. I was dead on about each one
Speaker 1: of y'all. You the common relieve, uh, Captain Sexy up there.
Speaker 1: You know he always won't be up front, always going
Speaker 1: to go in the house real quick and you wanna
Speaker 1: always go, hey, man, hold up now, but we got
Speaker 1: the facts who died in there? Who he always wants
Speaker 1: to know, the movement, you know, Yeah, they're the one.
Speaker 1: Just open the door, walk in. He just want what's
Speaker 1: going on, y'all? Hold up, brother, we gotta know what
Speaker 1: what's happening on the other side of the door. Marcus,
Speaker 1: he outside, go we don't have to go in. I'm
Speaker 1: already I'm going through the window at that right, you're
Speaker 1: on the floor, he said, some tell us about the
Speaker 1: ghost Busters. Y'all, If they listen to Marcus, there would
Speaker 1: be no serious because Marcus don't ever want to go
Speaker 1: in the house. Marcus, he wants to investigate outside. He
Speaker 1: wouldn't investigate our right, So so they don't listen to
Speaker 1: Marcus when they start putting together the show. Not now
Speaker 1: they let get you killed. The Dayland will get you
Speaker 1: killed and you don't even know why you did. And
Speaker 1: so well we all know that arrived. I like that.
Speaker 1: But so now we moved on to the whole new
Speaker 1: platform and this podcast successful series. Uh, three black men
Speaker 1: chasing ghosts already, that's a reach, you know in the
Speaker 1: world of reality in the black community. You know, white
Speaker 1: both have been changing ghosts for years. You know that
Speaker 1: Black people, you know, we knew about voodoo, we know
Speaker 1: about Luigi Board, but we never really admitted to ghosts.
Speaker 1: How did y'all break that wall? And I can go
Speaker 1: with each one you guys going starwards, Juan, how did
Speaker 1: you break that wall? Because Dayla came with the idea
Speaker 1: that y'all could be successful, and y'all are very successful
Speaker 1: in this paranormal format. Yeah, honestly, we just we I
Speaker 1: think we leaned on the fact that we were ignorant,
Speaker 1: so like we really didn't know what we were getting into,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I think that allowed
Speaker 1: us to just continue through this journey and try out
Speaker 1: new things and then you learn along the way they're like, yo,
Speaker 1: you might not want to be playing with this, right.
Speaker 1: I think that like our like ignorance was bliss in
Speaker 1: that moment and it and it worked out for us.
Speaker 1: I also think that we um utilize each other in
Speaker 1: our relationships. Like I think we're extremely comfortable with each other,
Speaker 1: and we were already brothers, so it's easy for us
Speaker 1: to kind of be vulnerable in particular moments that you know,
Speaker 1: we weren't used to, so that allowed us to kind
Speaker 1: of like high the fact that we were kind of
Speaker 1: fearful or not knowing what we were doing. Absolutely now now, Dylan,
Speaker 1: the whole concept of ten episodes and each episode is
Speaker 1: tied to an urban legend or myth what built that
Speaker 1: concept out, which which is totally different from what you
Speaker 1: guys are doing on your series, But I love it.
Speaker 1: I love the fact that you're focused on one per episode.
Speaker 1: It's not all over the place, so when people come
Speaker 1: to the table, it's set up and you get people
Speaker 1: engage with the way you guys do your research and
Speaker 1: how you interview people, y'all really do do y'all do
Speaker 1: a fantastic job or the producers as well. I don't
Speaker 1: want to give you guys credit because you gotta have
Speaker 1: a team to get there of setting up their story
Speaker 1: and making it very entertaining. Talk about the whole process
Speaker 1: with your podcast. Yeah, man, it it's it's a different
Speaker 1: form of media with it just being just us talking,
Speaker 1: but it's dope because it's still in the same vein.
Speaker 1: So with us hunting ghosts, we literally go all over
Speaker 1: the country from state to state, chasing all these parents
Speaker 1: on the stories. But in doing so, we realize that
Speaker 1: literally every state has its own specific urban legend, which
Speaker 1: is cool, which is totally different from your typical ghost stories,
Speaker 1: right because now we're breaking into the ideas of things
Speaker 1: like Chooper Cabra or the cry Baby Bridge, or even
Speaker 1: like Jelly the New Jersey Devil or Candy Man, like
Speaker 1: literally all these wild claims that have been circulating around
Speaker 1: the country for years. We get to seriously just to explore,
Speaker 1: but from the comfort of a studio. It ain't no
Speaker 1: more late nights, ain't no more investigating on the houses,
Speaker 1: ain't no more meal, dude, they no more they know
Speaker 1: Count Danderus ain't none of that. It's it's literally just
Speaker 1: us exploring, like you said, all these dope things that
Speaker 1: we all heard about in our past, you know, bloody
Speaker 1: like you said, bloody Mary. And then we've had so
Speaker 1: many dope guests who come on. We have Roy Wood Jr.
Speaker 1: Roy Woods Jr. Who he's going to be appearing on
Speaker 1: one of the podcasts. We have several other dope are
Speaker 1: guests who are, you know, paranormal experts. Just a comedian
Speaker 1: you tell me he's paranormal it Nah, he has some experiences.
Speaker 1: Because what we do is we actually take calls from
Speaker 1: all of our fans and people who have actually had
Speaker 1: experience in some of these things, and they call us,
Speaker 1: call in and tell us about their experiences, and we
Speaker 1: just pretty much just review it and just really get
Speaker 1: deep down into these types of like uh, dope dope legends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: these are legends, you know. And then just to add
Speaker 1: with Juana was saying, Um, I think like you said, um,
Speaker 1: I would say that to add another word, I would add,
Speaker 1: we were very curious, um and you know what this
Speaker 1: could be because not only do we look at things
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Speaker 1: at the opportunity to break into something that nobody's ever
Speaker 1: done before, whether and because we've never even done it before,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So knowing that we were
Speaker 1: the only ones in the field who are African Americans
Speaker 1: who were seeing it from our perspective, who were going
Speaker 1: to bring the type of energy that we were gonna
Speaker 1: bring it, we knew that though you know, everybody in
Speaker 1: that field was Caucasian, you know, we could bring a
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Speaker 1: you know, the Caucasian, right. So that's why we kind
Speaker 1: of I think you've had our found our dopest rhythm,
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Speaker 1: Brothers Now Daylan, this was your idea from job from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of just a conception, you know, saying, man,
Speaker 1: I feel this is a reality, but not, you know,
Speaker 1: because it can easily become a joke. And I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna tell everybody it's a fantastically produced series. I enjoy
Speaker 1: it is coming from their point of view. And when
Speaker 1: I see that point of view, because I really do
Speaker 1: believe Marcus is scared. It's a scaredy cat. I really
Speaker 1: do believe he don't want to go in the house
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And he complains about the cold, he
Speaker 1: complains about doing it at night, he complains about everything.
Speaker 1: But it's all the reality of how you would think.
Speaker 1: That's why I like the serious because see, I don't
Speaker 1: tell people if you're saying something I'm thinking, then guess
Speaker 1: what you got me? And so so Marcus is that
Speaker 1: one guy that kind of like throws all that logic
Speaker 1: into the such situation. Did you have, Daylon, He's there,
Speaker 1: he said, intuitive guy he's that invest in your why
Speaker 1: we He wants to get to the truth. But Jawad's
Speaker 1: character is always tied to if you're gonna get you
Speaker 1: the truth, let's apply facts to it. Let's just some
Speaker 1: barge into the situation without understanding the full rapifications of
Speaker 1: the journey. Now Daylyn with me saying all that, was
Speaker 1: that the perspective that you wanted the serious to be about,
Speaker 1: or just developed that way, you know what, It's a
Speaker 1: little bit of both, to be honest, because we're genuinely
Speaker 1: all three really close friends. It's not like most reality
Speaker 1: television that are scripted and you bring it together a
Speaker 1: cast of people and you force these relationships. So we've
Speaker 1: been hanging around together for twenty years, so we each
Speaker 1: have our own distinct personalities, which you know, in effect
Speaker 1: makes us friends. So we kind of already fall into
Speaker 1: those separate categories just in our day to day friendships. Anyway,
Speaker 1: and when it was time to cast the show and
Speaker 1: put the show together, you know what I mean, those friendships,
Speaker 1: those levels of relationships just shine through with the cast,
Speaker 1: like we didn't even have to interview any more people,
Speaker 1: Like it was literally just us three and everybody who
Speaker 1: was like, oh well, Marcus is funny, you know, Dylan
Speaker 1: is daring, and ju One has that level of factual
Speaker 1: intelligence that we want and like we care about. It
Speaker 1: was like we all had the same you know, we
Speaker 1: have those three different personalities. And if you look at
Speaker 1: reality TV, like a lot of reality shows, it's all
Speaker 1: the same type of personality archetypes. It's only like ten
Speaker 1: or eleven that make it onto reality TV, and you
Speaker 1: just so happen, you know, we just so happen to
Speaker 1: fall into three of those category. Story Now, it's interesting
Speaker 1: thing because I know that you know, Marcus gave me
Speaker 1: the cliff Notes version of your podcast. You know, he
Speaker 1: threw out and celebrities and stopped, you know, didn't even
Speaker 1: let me interview nobody. You know, that's how he always does.
Speaker 1: He just jumps out and start talking. You know this,
Speaker 1: this whole podcast interview been over with five minutes messing
Speaker 1: with Marcus. You know, he threw out one celebrity, says
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of more. Okay, we're gonna be bathering.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go all over. You know, we're gonna do
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn, We're gonna do the New Jersey Devil. That's
Speaker 1: it watch listen, so let me slow it down. Mr
Speaker 1: Marcus allowed me to interview y'all. Okay, now, Joan, how
Speaker 1: did y'all come up with these ten different podcasts myths?
Speaker 1: So the ten it started with the honestly, we knew
Speaker 1: about a few of them, right, Like there's all there's
Speaker 1: there's something that are more notorious than others like candy Man.
Speaker 1: You have Bloody Mary, uh Trooper, Cobra, Craybaby Bridge, but
Speaker 1: then you have others like slender Man, moth Man that
Speaker 1: you we had to scour the internet and ask people
Speaker 1: like we we asked people to give us their interesting
Speaker 1: encounters with urban legends, right, and we allow them to
Speaker 1: be guests on the show. And then like we have
Speaker 1: our honest feedback from those particular subject matters. So we
Speaker 1: reached out to you know, the paranormal community and and
Speaker 1: and found some new information and did our research to
Speaker 1: kind of get some of these other these broad topics
Speaker 1: because I mean, in my honest opinion, I didn't know,
Speaker 1: Like there's a couple that I didn't know, right, and
Speaker 1: I had to really learn. I'm talking to the Ghost
Speaker 1: Brothers as Dalen, Joan and Marcus that have new podcast
Speaker 1: series that will have just ten episodes to talk about
Speaker 1: stories and what's exciting about the scary aspect of what
Speaker 1: listeners want to hear when it comes to this whole
Speaker 1: ghost Paranora world. That the episodes are available on apples, Spotify,
Speaker 1: or whether you can get your podcasts now. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I know about Candy Man, So I'm not gonna claim
Speaker 1: to be an expert, but I always knew about Candy Man.
Speaker 1: In fact, the movie just came out and was number
Speaker 1: one at the box office. But I always felt like
Speaker 1: I knew. You know, the Luigi board I grew up,
Speaker 1: you know, put your hands and fingers on the Wegia
Speaker 1: board and it's supposed to take you to each letter.
Speaker 1: And I'm at one time we said a where's our daddy?
Speaker 1: You know it's bearer board, black folks, that the Wegia board.
Speaker 1: I'm telling my fam we have no money, but we
Speaker 1: had that Wegia board. Okay. And so so when you
Speaker 1: talk about myths the Candy Man, you know, saying his name,
Speaker 1: isn't that the terror in it is or the fear
Speaker 1: is that it could actually happen? You know, you know
Speaker 1: it isn't that the real fear of Dayla that you know,
Speaker 1: I don't believe, but I'm not crazy enough to find
Speaker 1: if it's really gonna happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's
Speaker 1: exactly the like the whole heartedly true. Anytime there's horror involved,
Speaker 1: it's that small element of realism that drives people over
Speaker 1: the edge. And I think that's when a lot of
Speaker 1: like horror and scary paranormal stuff missed these days. That's
Speaker 1: the difference from like your old movies like Candy Man,
Speaker 1: or It's or like You and Me, all those great
Speaker 1: Jason's and there was always that small level of like
Speaker 1: realism or like or could it be couldn't this actually
Speaker 1: happen that actually pushes people over the edge. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we still live in that same level of curiosity,
Speaker 1: and that's what works. I'll be a changeing man. Fears,
Speaker 1: fear and darkness is like you don't want them to
Speaker 1: enter the room. At the same time, you know, you
Speaker 1: don't want to look under your bed, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because somebody might look up at you, look
Speaker 1: at you with eyeball. You want to look out of
Speaker 1: your bench, try looking back at you. You know you
Speaker 1: don't want to look in the car to your bedroom
Speaker 1: and it's just dark, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: you don't have no blanket you have. The blanket is
Speaker 1: like the ultimate protector when you're afraid. You know itally
Speaker 1: proven on Mars. Talk to us about that man, because
Speaker 1: I know m T did a study on blanket protection
Speaker 1: um duringing paranormal. It's a whole study. You guys gotta
Speaker 1: go see it. Go google it's hey. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: rule though, because the rule, the rule, what that is,
Speaker 1: as long as all of your body is covered, like no,
Speaker 1: you can't have any limbs exposed, no, told, But you
Speaker 1: can have your head. Don't you want to write your
Speaker 1: head right? No? No, no, everything that's to that's like
Speaker 1: next level because you gotta be able to move swiftly,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You can your head exposed
Speaker 1: to see something, but you gotta pull it back over
Speaker 1: your head if you don't want to get I can
Speaker 1: I can tell you I didn't. I can tell you
Speaker 1: I didn't read the study because the study said if
Speaker 1: you expose your head, yeah, and that's what it literally
Speaker 1: said that on the second paget. That's what that's what
Speaker 1: they problem is the only first page readings. Y'all cliffs
Speaker 1: to pot this. You knew what I read that you
Speaker 1: want to read, that you want to read, you want detail. Okay,
Speaker 1: see he lying Now he's gonna government trying to shut
Speaker 1: me down. Knowledge, he trying to put me off conation.
Speaker 1: I'm back with you, baby. I love it. You know
Speaker 1: I would tell y'all something about me, man, is that
Speaker 1: I love scary movies. I love them, but you know
Speaker 1: I am a scaredy cat. Okay, when a good scary
Speaker 1: movie come on, I will leave the lights one in
Speaker 1: the house. I'm not gonna lie to you. When a
Speaker 1: good scary movie hit me, right, I will sleep with
Speaker 1: that blanket covered. Now I do expose the head now,
Speaker 1: but everything that is I will not leave you were
Speaker 1: there like you over there, like waffle house swelling covered.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you. See see See that's why y'all
Speaker 1: come on the show, because I'll be honest about it.
Speaker 1: I'm afraid. See what y'all do attracts me because of
Speaker 1: the fact that I I want to say I don't believe,
Speaker 1: but I do believe. That's what that ten episode podcast.
Speaker 1: I think it's brilliant because you're gonna allow people to
Speaker 1: dive into each one of their fears, and then they're
Speaker 1: gonna learn some more fears that they didn't even know about.
Speaker 1: The next thing, you know, there's another series of ten y'all,
Speaker 1: just cante man. You ain't gonna stop. We ain't gonna stop.
Speaker 1: You can't stop, can't stop, won't stop. Take that. Get down?
Speaker 1: We get down good. So so, so what's next for
Speaker 1: the Ghost Brothers? You know, I know each one of
Speaker 1: you guys, you do this project together, but I know
Speaker 1: you've got individual projects. Start with what you want, what
Speaker 1: you got working on the table. Brother. I got a
Speaker 1: restaurant in Miami. Um yeah, yeah, it's on South Beach
Speaker 1: thirteenth in Washington. We opened the year of So now
Speaker 1: we're just kind of getting back rolling because we were right.
Speaker 1: We were kind of hard. But now I'll be out
Speaker 1: be in my mean January eighteen through the twenty for
Speaker 1: the NAPTI, so I make at a point of reach
Speaker 1: out and touch you just so I can drop by.
Speaker 1: I'll be down there for three days for National National
Speaker 1: Association Program Television Executive. I'll be down there for three days.
Speaker 1: So your restaurant, what's your name of it? It's called
Speaker 1: Heroes stripping Chicken. Uh, it's a fast, casual donning experience. Um,
Speaker 1: if you never heard of Herolds of staying from Chicago,
Speaker 1: as I live in Chicago five years, I know about
Speaker 1: Harold Chicken. You can stop, man, I'm a foodie dude.
Speaker 1: Not now, Dayla, what's happened in your world? I know,
Speaker 1: Dayla got my full five project. He can't stay, he
Speaker 1: can't he can't sit this but down for nothing now? So, uh,
Speaker 1: what's actually really dope? The Ghost Brothers are launching something
Speaker 1: in the next two to three weeks. So people always
Speaker 1: ask us, like, what is it like traveling on the
Speaker 1: road when we're filming our show? Can we tell people
Speaker 1: it's a lot of late nights and a lot of
Speaker 1: early mornings. And in doing so, man, anytime we get
Speaker 1: out from these investigations, we always go get something to eat. Right.
Speaker 1: We've literally had breakfasted all over this country and like so,
Speaker 1: we've had waffles and pancakes everywhere. So we thought it
Speaker 1: would be only befitting if we dropped our own gourmet
Speaker 1: waffle and pancake mix. So we have the Bros Gourmet,
Speaker 1: which is actually lunch. In about three weeks with our
Speaker 1: first waffle and pancake mixes, pumpkin spice for the holidays.
Speaker 1: But yeah, right after that, we come to you with
Speaker 1: red velvet and uh yeah, okay, you know, because you know,
Speaker 1: I got a show called Rushange Kitchen. You know, it's
Speaker 1: all the other part of my life is that I'm
Speaker 1: award winning baker. So give me some of that and
Speaker 1: I would put it on my social media every Tuesday
Speaker 1: and Friday, I post, I post some recipes. You can
Speaker 1: look at my recipe right there. I did, uh land
Speaker 1: the legs. They sent me free butter so I can
Speaker 1: make their biscuits all that stuff. I can free stuff
Speaker 1: all the time for my did that perfect? I'm seriously like,
Speaker 1: I just did some all some Punkin donuts that I
Speaker 1: did and I posted. It's like it's like a hidden
Speaker 1: flavor because a lot of black people here. Punking. There's
Speaker 1: folks Parking man is outstanding, dude, because they're so used
Speaker 1: to sweet potato pies, you know, but Punkin that's a
Speaker 1: great pancake. Parking Pancakes outstanding. Now. I always closed the
Speaker 1: show with the headline here, Marcus, what's happening. What's happening?
Speaker 1: The headline? Hey man, listen I want when you cook
Speaker 1: them pancakes, I want to be there because I want
Speaker 1: to get one of them plumpy pick. Because you talked
Speaker 1: about the listen, we got a lot going on. Rosecore
Speaker 1: May is gonna be amazing. Um, you guys can go
Speaker 1: follow my art gallery, the Mussilayer. It's in Atlanta, Georgia
Speaker 1: in keen Plow Art District. Uh that's th ch E Mussilayer.
Speaker 1: We have a barbershop full of like amazing groomers, massage therapists.
Speaker 1: We have a therapist, mental therapist on deck to my brother,
Speaker 1: he's a license therapist who's worked for Regview for many years.
Speaker 1: He's also he took his talents over to us. Uh. So, man,
Speaker 1: we're just really trying to do some great things to
Speaker 1: the community. We're gonna be do some giveaways or some
Speaker 1: haircuts for the holidays and so yeah, man, just tap in, man,
Speaker 1: and just keep keep keep posting, keep praying for the
Speaker 1: ghost bros. Man, we were out here trying to do
Speaker 1: great things for the community. We're trying to, you know,
Speaker 1: raise our beautiful kids. You know, Juwan, you're on the
Speaker 1: clock dot because they only got that baby gorgeous and no,
Speaker 1: we don't let them put that tresh pressure on you.
Speaker 1: Don't do like that, bro, No, no, non't take your time.
Speaker 1: But we're talking about when you do it, it better
Speaker 1: be a pretty baby, because that's that's that's all we
Speaker 1: as looking. Man. Let's he really goes ugly. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be hard now to have a little good looking time
Speaker 1: come out of draw not you don't know what love?
Speaker 1: That's what you want to think? Do we bring you
Speaker 1: no ugly babies to the ghost Brothers family'll sound like
Speaker 1: some bats. You know you me brother, you look like
Speaker 1: a good looking guy. Oh, y'all good looking guy, right,
Speaker 1: they're just gonna slap some ug me on your baby
Speaker 1: and the baby had need to here, yallaby, I don't
Speaker 1: you something, ghost brother ugliness are really something else? And
Speaker 1: come on, I refused to let the two of y'all
Speaker 1: hat on my boy and curse curse on this checkout
Speaker 1: would be like you wouldn't want nobody to speak no
Speaker 1: ugliness on the child that you hadn't had yet. No, no,
Speaker 1: we misinterpreted. I'm just saying there's pressure. If there is
Speaker 1: an ugly baby, the ugly baby won't be as close
Speaker 1: to the pretty babies. I'm just saying, if y'all have
Speaker 1: a mother, you better pray it's not ugly. They are
Speaker 1: the Ghost Brothers, Daily Jawan and Marcus. They were hosting
Speaker 1: a Discovery plus ten episodes only. You may have missed
Speaker 1: one already, but you can catch it all streaming Urban
Speaker 1: Legends with the Ghost Brothers. They have two of my
Speaker 1: most popular, three of my most popular guests. Every time
Speaker 1: they come on show, I might have to bring you
Speaker 1: all in my live show. I do Old Clark and
Speaker 1: lattin Campus every Tuesday from six to seven. I got
Speaker 1: bringing it. So do you want I owe your visit
Speaker 1: to your restaurant in Miami? You owe me some some
Speaker 1: pucking pancake flour, okay, And I gotta come by your
Speaker 1: barbershop to get that artwork. So I owe y'all three
Speaker 1: things and get that stuff to me, and I'll do
Speaker 1: what I do. Man. I love all three of you guys.
Speaker 1: Keep winning. Ghost Brothers. Appreciate appreciate that. We will be
Speaker 1: right back with more Money Making Conversation with Rashan McDonald.
Speaker 1: You are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations. Minute
Speaker 1: of Inspiration with Rashan McDonald's Hi, I am Rashan McDonald
Speaker 1: for Money Making Conversations with your Daily Minute of Inspiration.
Speaker 1: This week, I sat down with licensed tax professional, entrepreneur
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Speaker 1: to listen to this, full interview with Laura Foods is
Speaker 1: available on money Making Conversations dot com. Now let's return
Speaker 1: to money Making Conversation with Rashan McDonald. My next guest
Speaker 1: is Reggie rock Bitewood. He writes, directs, and serve as
Speaker 1: the showrunner of the New Apple Plus Swagger and his
Speaker 1: executive producer along time superstar NBA player Kevin Durant and
Speaker 1: super producer Brian Grazer. The Apple Plus series is inspired
Speaker 1: by Kevin Durant's life and basketball experiences. Swiggers for is
Speaker 1: the world of youth basketball and the players, the families
Speaker 1: and coaches who walk the fine line between dreams and ambitions,
Speaker 1: and the optimism and corruption that goes with sports off
Speaker 1: the court. To show reveals what it's like to grow
Speaker 1: up in America, especially Black America. Reggie's right, and he
Speaker 1: started way back with a different world. This comedy drama
Speaker 1: New York Undercover. Get on the bus, That's what I
Speaker 1: met him to Notorious. Just to name with you, this
Speaker 1: brother can write. The new series, Swagger will premier globally
Speaker 1: October twenty night one, with the first three episodes, followed
Speaker 1: by a new episode weekly every Friday day after on
Speaker 1: Apple Plus. Please work in the money making conversation. For
Speaker 1: a long time, I've been wanting to talk to this
Speaker 1: brother again. Reggie rock Bythewood, How are you doing, my friend,
Speaker 1: I'm really really great. Thank you thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: But first of all, man um, you know I'm a
Speaker 1: fan of Apple Plus, so I watched Ted Lasso ap
Speaker 1: Apple TV Plus Brother, Apple TV Plus, Apple TV Plus.
Speaker 1: I apologize Apple TV Plus. Let me get this straight
Speaker 1: TV Plus because you know when when you pay your
Speaker 1: money and I just see the Apple Plus. But Apple
Speaker 1: TV Plus okay? And um, this series? What brought it about?
Speaker 1: And uh? And what inspired you to do this series?
Speaker 1: I know Kevin Durant involved, which give us a whole
Speaker 1: lot of credibility to the background and the relations of
Speaker 1: the the authenticity for the series. But how did you
Speaker 1: get involved? Ritchie Um? So I got a call from
Speaker 1: um Imagine Entertainment, which is a company that that that
Speaker 1: Brian runs with Ron Howard a producing their name. Francy
Speaker 1: Calfol called me up and and and let me know
Speaker 1: that Brian and k D had a meeting and they
Speaker 1: talked about doing a series focus on or inspired by
Speaker 1: his youth basketball days. So they called me asked me
Speaker 1: to meet with him. I flew out At that time
Speaker 1: k D was in was in um it was in
Speaker 1: Golden State, you know. So I flew out to Oakland
Speaker 1: and met with him, and you know, I didn't really
Speaker 1: know what to what to to think, you know what,
Speaker 1: I like the guy? Would I not? But it was
Speaker 1: a really kind of inspiring conversation and and he was
Speaker 1: just very open and shared um a lot of his
Speaker 1: experiences with me, and I really just started to see
Speaker 1: this canvas, if you will, that would allow me to
Speaker 1: um take elements of his life and bringing other elements, um,
Speaker 1: some elements from my life, from my kids and sort
Speaker 1: of things we pulled into research and just just tell
Speaker 1: a story that we felt could be really meaningful, um,
Speaker 1: A story about not just basketball, but growing up in
Speaker 1: America or teen life in America, which is a brilliant
Speaker 1: portory by the actors that you brought into this, which
Speaker 1: really which were in the music that plays a major
Speaker 1: role in what you're doing here. Now let's talk about
Speaker 1: the young star Isaiah Isaiah, he'll correctly plays James Carson. Now,
Speaker 1: I've been fortunate to sit down with Kevin Durant and
Speaker 1: he has a this young man. You seem to have
Speaker 1: captured Kevin Durant's personality or temperament in this character. Am
Speaker 1: I wrong in saying that? But it really did kind
Speaker 1: of resonate to the personality of life sotock because Kevin
Speaker 1: was raised by a single mom in a basketball cynthric
Speaker 1: world is set in Washington, d C. What Kevin Durant
Speaker 1: is from talk about that. Yeah. I mean, look, I
Speaker 1: think there were a couple of things, you know, I
Speaker 1: was really looking for. And I mean this is such
Speaker 1: a complicated character. You know. Number one, the dude's gotta
Speaker 1: be athletic, and so we you know, we have this
Speaker 1: huge casting search and this kid comes in who's not
Speaker 1: just like Donking, like just tipping it in. He's like
Speaker 1: throwing it back and you know, slamming it. Um. But
Speaker 1: then the other thing too was you know, he was
Speaker 1: talented and and so we um really it was just
Speaker 1: like blown away to be able to find someone who
Speaker 1: has acting chops and basketball chops all in wine. It
Speaker 1: was was was a gift. And I think that you know, um,
Speaker 1: you know, k D felt challenged to prove that he was,
Speaker 1: you know, like this this top player that he that
Speaker 1: that that he was, and you know, all great athletes,
Speaker 1: you know, feel like they have something to prove, you know.
Speaker 1: The real life Isaiah felt that as well. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean he's played basketball, he understands those challenges, He's
Speaker 1: had his bumps, and so he I think he was
Speaker 1: just able to bring that forward and and when he
Speaker 1: played out you know lovely on screen, we're talked to
Speaker 1: an incredible writer, producers, show running of the new series
Speaker 1: on Apple TV plus Swagger. Uh, Reggie Rocket Bythewood. The
Speaker 1: series is an incredible force as far as teen drama, training, romance, Uh,
Speaker 1: coming of age. Uh. This young man we're talking about Isaiah,
Speaker 1: his character plays and he plays the character James Carson,
Speaker 1: the fourteen year old megastar. I could relate this a
Speaker 1: little bit of my personal life because my nephew, he
Speaker 1: had a couple of songs, and I remember he was
Speaker 1: we were tracking him at eighth grade, ninth grade. You know,
Speaker 1: his son was the top point guard in Texas, you know,
Speaker 1: And it's so the other song was a top small forward.
Speaker 1: So I know the reality of this, But that what
Speaker 1: I loved about it was how Reggie how is how
Speaker 1: are you incorporating how the world of social media something
Speaker 1: that the real Kevin Durant really didn't have to deal
Speaker 1: with that this kid has to deal with on a
Speaker 1: regular basis, incorporating that real lifestyle activity, how you can
Speaker 1: be how your life is changed by a poast? Correct? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean social media became his other director in our narrative,
Speaker 1: and and so I mean it's just authentic to the
Speaker 1: way um, people in this age group relate to each other.
Speaker 1: You know, yes, you know, and and as we know,
Speaker 1: they are great positives with it and great negatives with it.
Speaker 1: And and as you as you mentioned, like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is a drama that does focus a lot on teens,
Speaker 1: but it's also like really really aspiring to give a
Speaker 1: view from every seat in the house, you know, so
Speaker 1: that we deal with fatherhood, we deal with coaching, we
Speaker 1: deal with parent hood, and so I think that you know,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're a mom, if you're a coach,
Speaker 1: if you're a dad, um, if you're a child, like,
Speaker 1: there's something that's going to pull it you emotionally. We'll
Speaker 1: read here. First of all, I don't want to sell
Speaker 1: you serious short because I'm we gonna we got mill
Speaker 1: tankcause I'm gonna go to o'shean, I'm gonna talk to Gina,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to these characters breakdowns to have so
Speaker 1: much layers. But those kids what brought me in. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell how really was I I get
Speaker 1: up every day at four thirty am. All right, I
Speaker 1: saw five straight episodes because each episode kept me, kept
Speaker 1: me kept five My wife looked at me, said Rishan's
Speaker 1: one thirty in the morning. I said, okay, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to bed. I'm gonna go to bed. Let
Speaker 1: go to bed, because soon as I wrap up this interview,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna screen the rest of them. I noticed she
Speaker 1: was premieres October twenty nine. It will premiere with three
Speaker 1: episodes in a row, and when you get to that
Speaker 1: third episode, you will be hooked in this series. Please
Speaker 1: take the time to watch consecutively series and after that
Speaker 1: it will air every Friday. What Reggie has put together
Speaker 1: is um is uh you. Gina who plays the mom
Speaker 1: Jason's mom, Joanna who plays Jason's mom, very dominant character,
Speaker 1: very uh opinionated. She knows what she wants, she knows
Speaker 1: what she sees in the sun. Her expectations maybe over reaching,
Speaker 1: and her advice and to how he should play shouldn't
Speaker 1: be something he should be following. But that's what the
Speaker 1: comment of age part of the writing is all about,
Speaker 1: correct Reggie, Yeah, I mean, you know, and here's a
Speaker 1: crazy thing, right, Like it's like when you have a
Speaker 1: kid that talented. Yes, there's still a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: questions in terms of like, you know, where he or
Speaker 1: she is gonna go, and it really becomes like this
Speaker 1: coming of age for but the kid for the parents,
Speaker 1: Like it's just it's it's so complicated, it's so challenging
Speaker 1: to you know, you you sort of wish we all
Speaker 1: had a crystal ball and knew where their kid was
Speaker 1: was gonna go. But you know, on a whole other level, man,
Speaker 1: you know, um, a lot of times we pushed our kids. Yes,
Speaker 1: sometimes we have to. And you know, if we do
Speaker 1: it wrong, it's a negative, and if we do it right,
Speaker 1: it's a positive. Right. I know, my daughter was a
Speaker 1: tennis prodigy, you know, my my wife she was. She
Speaker 1: was really a lot more aggressive than I was, which
Speaker 1: is our role. We all play roles as parents, you know.
Speaker 1: And I always felt my daughter was talented at it
Speaker 1: what she did, but that wasn't what she wanted to do.
Speaker 1: Now she's in the typewando and and I told my wife,
Speaker 1: don't be disappointed if that's not what she wants to do,
Speaker 1: that's not her end game. You know, she blew out
Speaker 1: her knee when she was nateen and she asked me
Speaker 1: that she wanted to go to college, because you go
Speaker 1: to college, and yes, whoever your dreams are. And that's
Speaker 1: what this young man is learning and his and his
Speaker 1: best friend, who we see the relationship going. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about Crystal, and that's another storyline I'm not gonna get
Speaker 1: into any detail on because it should be seen and
Speaker 1: you should see the development of her character in the series.
Speaker 1: But also it's it's it's kind of a romance, but
Speaker 1: their friends their friends, they're die hard friends. And what
Speaker 1: you learned in this series, Reggie, if I could be
Speaker 1: so bold to say this, is that you learn to listen.
Speaker 1: You learn to listen with people are trying to talk
Speaker 1: to you. That was a big part of this whole
Speaker 1: first five episodes that I heard screaming at me people
Speaker 1: when they talk, take the time to hear and not talk,
Speaker 1: and so much talk about your problems. But other people
Speaker 1: have problems too, and you should learn to hear their problems,
Speaker 1: especially when they're coming to you to talk. That was
Speaker 1: strong language in this in this series so far. Well,
Speaker 1: but I mean it feels like that's a lost art
Speaker 1: in this country right now. Right Like listening, you know,
Speaker 1: like like like really listening, like really trying to understand
Speaker 1: where somebody else is coming from. You know, but I
Speaker 1: see other great thing about having a platform like this
Speaker 1: to be able to give insight, to to bring people
Speaker 1: into you know, various characters and and see and you
Speaker 1: know um so much. You know that the show's called swagger,
Speaker 1: you know. And and so you know, obviously on the
Speaker 1: surface that's like barbato and confidence, but really underneath all
Speaker 1: of that swaggers would having a cause bigger than yourself, right,
Speaker 1: And so whether you your causes, your people, your family,
Speaker 1: your team, having that cause bigger than yourself, um, really
Speaker 1: gives you that sense of purpose, that that grid, that
Speaker 1: determination to move closer to your your dreams and your calling.
Speaker 1: And I think that's why, you know, you know, in
Speaker 1: Jason's journey, you know, Jason's journey initially is himself, yes,
Speaker 1: you know, and as we go through the narrative, it
Speaker 1: expands as he expands. We know an interesting thing about
Speaker 1: it because now I'm going to go to Oce Jackson's character.
Speaker 1: You know, he plays icon, a character who didn't reach
Speaker 1: who had great basketball potential but didn't reach the potential.
Speaker 1: And when you staid reach the potential, the NBA is
Speaker 1: the goal. The NBA is the ultimate goal of anybody
Speaker 1: who puts on those sneakers and gets on that hard
Speaker 1: court and try to imagine they're the next Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: or the next Scareem Abdul Jabbard, or next Lebron James
Speaker 1: today or next KD. Because KD six and eleven and
Speaker 1: seven feet tall and dribbled like a six point six
Speaker 1: ft point guard and shoots like Steph Kurr on the
Speaker 1: even any given day, but dunk like Lebron. So that's
Speaker 1: to be to have a show about that, there had
Speaker 1: to be some additional pressure Reggie, knowing that you this
Speaker 1: is when the regular superstar. There wasn't a guy who
Speaker 1: who's a marginal player or just a good player. K
Speaker 1: D can probably go down in history is one of
Speaker 1: the all top five all time players. Here, you ain't
Speaker 1: having a room and to create a scripted series that
Speaker 1: has to retain a level of credibility, and you do,
Speaker 1: my friend, because we're gonna get into these action shots.
Speaker 1: Because I was like blown away by these these I'll
Speaker 1: tell you how something when you when you watch TV,
Speaker 1: watch Reggie do his work, his his his magic, and
Speaker 1: you see a shot that don't have jump cuts in him,
Speaker 1: and I'm going, okay, that's a real shot from the corner.
Speaker 1: When Nick Mindez hits his first three pointer at the
Speaker 1: top of the I go, that's a real shots. That's it.
Speaker 1: I said, I said, I said, I said, Reggie, Reggie,
Speaker 1: my boy has said, man, how how how you pulling
Speaker 1: that off? Bro? How many? First of all, you know,
Speaker 1: first of all, though you started talking about the pressure,
Speaker 1: we just say so creatively, what I wanted to do
Speaker 1: was have the basketball feel real. So it actually alleviated
Speaker 1: pressure as the network and everybody, yeah, we gotta be like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's gotta be real, it's gonna be kevin.
Speaker 1: So so we cast actors someone who had really played
Speaker 1: ball before. But we were able to, like, like you know,
Speaker 1: it's so rare to be able to cast somebody and
Speaker 1: give them like three months of training, like multiple days
Speaker 1: throughout the week, hours and hours upon a day to
Speaker 1: learn how to become a baller. And then we had
Speaker 1: our ballers who then had a lot of time to
Speaker 1: work with acting coaches. So just that alone, UM, it
Speaker 1: alleviated pressure because it allowed me to then have like
Speaker 1: a real process where everybody knew the basketball needed to
Speaker 1: me in a high level. UM. And you know, look
Speaker 1: there was choreography and training sessions, but I mean they
Speaker 1: just came and they and it was like, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it was a luxury, like like the kids
Speaker 1: wanted to do it, you know, like they were like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm in some of it. Some of it, you know,
Speaker 1: it was from them, a choreographer and a trainer, but
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Speaker 1: continue my conversation with the creator, writer, and executive producer
Speaker 1: of the new Apple TV Plus series Swagger, Reggie Rock Bitewood.
Speaker 1: How tall as uh as Asaiah Hello plays James Carson.
Speaker 1: I think he's like because he could leap man. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's six three six four six three or
Speaker 1: six three. That young man. He has some elevation now.
Speaker 1: He and his acting skills are on point. He has
Speaker 1: a career in this business. Good looking kid. Oh Shan
Speaker 1: Jackson icon Yeah, um, all the you know, Oh had
Speaker 1: multiple scenes where we were dunking, but he didn't make
Speaker 1: the cut. Well well, I know he didn't make up,
Speaker 1: but he could shoot. Let let's talk about his shooting though,
Speaker 1: because I was impressed. I was impressed. Hey, let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. In that game and a pilot where
Speaker 1: they're going one on each then wasn't supposed to make
Speaker 1: people shown off. I just kept the cameras and I
Speaker 1: was like, let him go. You're lying, dude, because I'm
Speaker 1: looking at saying what I said. Because I had these
Speaker 1: little checkpoints. I said, rim height, you see it's ten
Speaker 1: feet not nine. You said he made all the ships
Speaker 1: to tell I mean because there's a lot of basket
Speaker 1: Come on, there's a lot of basketball shows where you
Speaker 1: see somebody dunking and you know that's something eight foot
Speaker 1: nine ft. So that was really important for the We
Speaker 1: didn't want to do that, you know, we really wanted
Speaker 1: it to look and and some people would get vibe
Speaker 1: and there's people like you that you can smell it
Speaker 1: if it's not real. First of all, that's what it
Speaker 1: pressed me the most. I'm gonna tell you something. I
Speaker 1: loved my sleep when I get it. I don't like
Speaker 1: getting up at four thirty. So you know, Reggie, I
Speaker 1: love you. Don't Reid, I would love you that much.
Speaker 1: But when it's series, I'm looking at it because my
Speaker 1: wife was sitting right next to me. Excuse in factually
Speaker 1: she was cooking in the kitchen when we started, and
Speaker 1: next thing, by episode two, she was sitting right next
Speaker 1: to me, engaged in the series. Like I said, it's
Speaker 1: a series that, uh, they're a boy basketball so many
Speaker 1: layers about life, about parenting, about how you know she
Speaker 1: could relate to because our daughter, you know, it was
Speaker 1: a prodigy, like like Jase, like like the character being
Speaker 1: played out here, being pulled in so many directions going
Speaker 1: to private camps, were recruited, and so it was very
Speaker 1: relatable to what we deal with today because that's all
Speaker 1: you see nowadays and now with name likeness and imagery
Speaker 1: that that you can pay for and kids can get
Speaker 1: the money they used to hide to get nowadays. But
Speaker 1: the whole layers are putting all these characters together. That
Speaker 1: was a lot of work. How did you really start
Speaker 1: projecting each role? The nes, the sheol say, the the
Speaker 1: bad guys, the good guys, the the layers. A lot
Speaker 1: of hard work wind into this, Reggie, how did you
Speaker 1: pull it off? I mean, you know, I mean again
Speaker 1: having this mandate of you know this, this self imposed
Speaker 1: mandate of having a view from every seat in the house. Um,
Speaker 1: and a lot of research, spoke with a lot of people,
Speaker 1: and really, you know, much of my work and the
Speaker 1: writing process also starts with like really putting together a
Speaker 1: really great writer's room, you know, so um, you know,
Speaker 1: in particular, one of my writers, guy named George Dorman,
Speaker 1: wrote this book, really good book called um they Play
Speaker 1: their Hearts Out and it follows a youth basketball team. Um.
Speaker 1: It was very important for me to have some incredible
Speaker 1: black women in my writer's room. Um and and directing
Speaker 1: as well, right and directing as well, and and and
Speaker 1: directing as well Nigel and mean you haven't seen her,
Speaker 1: so when you go back, you're gonna see h Nigel
Speaker 1: is the one that Nigel is directed, which is one
Speaker 1: oh six, you know. And and so you know, when
Speaker 1: you have a room like that, it's really gray inspiring
Speaker 1: because we're challenging each other, we're challenging other people's points
Speaker 1: of view, we're bringing in our real life experiences. And
Speaker 1: in a room like that, like I never say, like,
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't create a room like that because
Speaker 1: it's politically correct. You create a room like that because
Speaker 1: it gives you the best product. Wow, I just want
Speaker 1: to say this about the show. The credibility of the
Speaker 1: show is amazing. The Meg's role, who plays his business partner,
Speaker 1: O'shan's business, cavil hood, his icon uh David, his role
Speaker 1: as the NBA star who made it, who Who's Who's
Speaker 1: Who's has an issue with icon, All these layers, like
Speaker 1: you were saying earlier, and that's what I wanna say.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to start with the kids because that's
Speaker 1: the core of this that's the that's the part that
Speaker 1: that's the innocence of the series. Are the children? Are
Speaker 1: the teenagers? Because you have all these adults who have
Speaker 1: agendas from his mother has an agenda, o'sha is in denial,
Speaker 1: but he has an agenda. Dave has an agenda. Uh,
Speaker 1: the guy from the glad Eators, he has an agenda.
Speaker 1: All tied back to the reality what you've you're showing us, Reggie,
Speaker 1: this is happening right now. This is real life. This
Speaker 1: is not something you're making up. And to be able
Speaker 1: to pull that off, and then it's almost tragic because
Speaker 1: how do we pull these kids out of it? Always
Speaker 1: there a train that we can't control anymore, and you
Speaker 1: just capturing it, put it on paper, allowing us to
Speaker 1: see a version of it. Well, you know, first of all,
Speaker 1: let me just say something. But what you talked about
Speaker 1: with innocence, right, so, you know, are most of our characters,
Speaker 1: most of these kids are fourteen years old, and so
Speaker 1: we know fourteen has some historical context, you know within
Speaker 1: the black community, right, Um, you know Matil fourteen years old, August.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm murdered, and you know that's still
Speaker 1: reverberates within our community. You know, I thought of these
Speaker 1: years later, right, um, and I saw this painting. But
Speaker 1: this amazing artist named Lisa Winnington, she did this painting
Speaker 1: called um there was about Emmett tail and it was
Speaker 1: called um. How let me see if I get the
Speaker 1: title right, Lisa. If I mess up the name of
Speaker 1: your art, I apologize. But it was how she sent
Speaker 1: him and how she got him back. And in this
Speaker 1: painting you see half of Emmett's face that's innocent and
Speaker 1: a vibrant and all these vibrant colors around them, like
Speaker 1: what we were calling our show, Emmet blue and Emmett yellow,
Speaker 1: and on the other side of his face it's mutilated.
Speaker 1: It's you know, with the you know, you know, the
Speaker 1: way the way the space was and he was beaten down.
Speaker 1: But we use her painting many ways. It's inspiration. And really,
Speaker 1: you know, when I would talk to everyone about what
Speaker 1: we're doing, we were like, this innocence is what we're
Speaker 1: fighting for for our characters. We want this sort of innocence.
Speaker 1: Our coaches they're fighting for our kids and maintain this innocence.
Speaker 1: And the flip side of it is that you're on
Speaker 1: the other side of it, you know, and so um,
Speaker 1: so much of the of the of the sister's work.
Speaker 1: You know, like I said, we you know it was
Speaker 1: it was actually a template for our color palette, you know,
Speaker 1: Emmon blue, Emmon yellow, like all these sort of colors
Speaker 1: and our artwork U inspired us. And so the innocence
Speaker 1: versus the other side of it was, it was something
Speaker 1: that we really spent a lot of time talking about
Speaker 1: my brother. Outstanding of talking to Reggie Rock Britewood Swagger.
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Speaker 1: you got the Yankee had on you know, uh and
Speaker 1: I don't you know Steven A. Smith. She was, Oh no,
Speaker 1: never bring to Stephen A. Smith. Okay, you know that's
Speaker 1: why that's what I'm managed. And he's a superstar Yankee fan,
Speaker 1: just like you. Well, the Yankees make a callback. I
Speaker 1: keep asking them when y'all come back, and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna wrap up the interview. I got one minute left.
Speaker 1: It's your it's your moment to say the Yankees, sir. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the Yankees have one championships, more
Speaker 1: championships than any other professional team. So what's your team? Brother, Oh,
Speaker 1: Houston Astros? Okay, um um, how how how are we
Speaker 1: gonna do this year? Werenna We're gonna play it honestly,
Speaker 1: this year. What we're gonna do, We're gonna try and
Speaker 1: win this year. What we what are we gonna do?
Speaker 1: Because you know, you know that they Now I see
Speaker 1: where the Yankee things come from. Because what y'all how
Speaker 1: to do to to beat the Yankees? I mean, we
Speaker 1: we really want to talk about that. But here's a complict,
Speaker 1: right because now who do I root for? A might
Speaker 1: rooting for the Astros? Are my rooting for the Red Sox.
Speaker 1: So you know, so that's that's that's that's a tough one.
Speaker 1: But I do like the Astros. But Yankees will always
Speaker 1: be back Man one championships recognized. Thank you, brother, you
Speaker 1: are a champion too. Thankful for this fantastics series Swagger
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Speaker 1: Rock Bythewood. Thank you, sir, appreciate you if you want
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