Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's to show that she
Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and
Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashaan McDonald. I will know he's giving me
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Speaker 1: You know, he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs and entrepreneurs and
Speaker 1: industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, it's
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host, Rashaan McDonald.
Speaker 1: I want to hear from you today. I recognize that
Speaker 1: we all have different definitions of success. For you, it
Speaker 1: may be the size of your paycheck. Mine has inspired
Speaker 1: you to accomplish your goals and live your very best life.
Speaker 1: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and
Speaker 1: start writing your own. People always talk about that purpose
Speaker 1: or gift. If you have a gift, lead with your
Speaker 1: gifts and don't let your friends, family, or co workers
Speaker 1: stop you from planning or living your dreams. We will
Speaker 1: be discussing how to overcome the in life. My guests
Speaker 1: on the show today represent people who did not let
Speaker 1: stereotypes stopped them from pursuing their dreams. One is a
Speaker 1: rising Hollywood actress on the hit comedy series Harlem. The
Speaker 1: show streams on the Amazon Prime network. And my other
Speaker 1: guests went from directing rap videos to now becoming a
Speaker 1: university professor. They're making a difference in Black Hollywood. Our
Speaker 1: theme today is that there is no perfect time to
Speaker 1: start following your dreams. We found him. He's here and
Speaker 1: this is an old friend, Greg Carter. I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: throw his name out now because this show also aris
Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas. Okay, so I say Greg cart in Houston, Texas.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are gonna come close to the radio. Oh,
Speaker 1: gred He's a native of Houston, a graduate of Texas
Speaker 1: and m So. He born in Bread which is school
Speaker 1: born there, went to college there. It also produces a
Speaker 1: very popular TV series in the city of Houston called
Speaker 1: Fifth Ward. The airs on the Urban Movie Channel. When
Speaker 1: I first met Gregg, he was one of the rising
Speaker 1: rap directors in the city of Houston, Texas. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's the early stage of rapper to get old
Speaker 1: boars out there, my mind playing tricks on you. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Bushwick Bill that was back in
Speaker 1: the day part. But life is about the justin and
Speaker 1: growing your brand. He is still directing movies and television
Speaker 1: series in Hollywood, but he's also teaching students at the
Speaker 1: University of Houston. Please working to Money Making Conversations Masterclass.
Speaker 1: Greg Carter, Greg, what's happening? Rich? Thank you for that introduction.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be part of the show and
Speaker 1: to be back again. And I just enjoy whenever we
Speaker 1: have a time to sit down and talk about what
Speaker 1: I'm doing and what's going on in the industry. So
Speaker 1: so glad to be on this car. Hey, Greg, I
Speaker 1: want to I want to. I knew we got to
Speaker 1: go to break in the minute, but before we go
Speaker 1: to break, I want to talk about the because we
Speaker 1: know when you and I met, I had a comedy club.
Speaker 1: I was a rising comedian back in the time this did.
Speaker 1: I just performed on Deaf Comedy Jam with Dave Chappelle
Speaker 1: and Martin Lawrence and all that stuff, and you was
Speaker 1: doing rap videos. That's all I remember. Greg Carter, Greg Carter,
Speaker 1: Greg Carter, but today, man, I'm looking at you know,
Speaker 1: take Off. He was just recently murdered in the city
Speaker 1: of Houston. Nipsey Nipsey Hustle. You know. The person who
Speaker 1: killed him, I think got sentenced to sixty years. And
Speaker 1: we can go further back in the Tupac and go
Speaker 1: back to a Biggie Small. But there has been a
Speaker 1: rash of hip hop violence and being a guy who
Speaker 1: who in the early nineties was right in the footprint
Speaker 1: of it, you know, out there late at nights seeing
Speaker 1: this lifestyle, or have you been able to conceptualize what
Speaker 1: was really going on or just you just you just
Speaker 1: throw your hands up and go, man, I don't know
Speaker 1: what's happening. Well, you know, it's funny because the stuff
Speaker 1: that happened back in the nineties is really about the
Speaker 1: things that were going down between the labels. I mean,
Speaker 1: the quote unquote violence black on black violence within the
Speaker 1: hip hop game was really between the East and West
Speaker 1: coast or south. You know, it was normally to find
Speaker 1: our region or record label that had to be for
Speaker 1: another label. Right. These random acts of violence, as you
Speaker 1: want to call it, are just really a lot of
Speaker 1: it is between people who are looking for cloud, because
Speaker 1: if I can shoot this rapper, if I can hurt
Speaker 1: this individual, it makes me seem like a bigger person.
Speaker 1: I have bigger stature. Uh. And there's still some things
Speaker 1: that happened between different artists are different camps and or defense.
Speaker 1: But you know, that's the thing. It seems like there
Speaker 1: has been we have kind of digressed a little bit
Speaker 1: about you know, when it comes to trying to lift
Speaker 1: each other up and trying to solve problems without necessarily
Speaker 1: those problems ending up in debt. I think it's uh.
Speaker 1: And it's not systemic to just hip hop too it.
Speaker 1: You know, the young brother at a at Alabama who
Speaker 1: playing basketball there the fact that he couldn't you know,
Speaker 1: he can't accept rejection from a young lady. He had
Speaker 1: to do something that was you know, crazy and commit murders.
Speaker 1: So these are these are the things that I think
Speaker 1: that I happen to be because you know, social media
Speaker 1: has made it so important that you keep an image
Speaker 1: more so than show character when it comes to being
Speaker 1: under fire and so uh, and we're all gonna be
Speaker 1: on the fire one way or another, and some things
Speaker 1: they're not going to go your way, but you have
Speaker 1: to be able to have the character to stand in
Speaker 1: yourself and not try to react with something that the
Speaker 1: shows shows that you you you you don't have control
Speaker 1: of your your faculties. And that's the real sad thing.
Speaker 1: We've lost a generation being in to control their faculties.
Speaker 1: You know, we would have you know, we'd have those
Speaker 1: situations where we get into a fight, but we wouldn't
Speaker 1: go think I got to go get a gun and
Speaker 1: sell it that way. Right, I'm talking to Great Carter,
Speaker 1: one of the top directors in Hollywood, Houston native. Like
Speaker 1: I said, our relationship goes back to the early nineties
Speaker 1: when he was doing hip hop videos and I was
Speaker 1: a rising starting the comedy scene. We'll were right back,
Speaker 1: talk about this filth Forwards series, which has been renewed,
Speaker 1: talk about his upcoming projects from movie projects. Also, he's
Speaker 1: a teacher. He's a teacher. He's also doing that at
Speaker 1: the Universe Houston. Guess who graduated from Universe using idea,
Speaker 1: Guess who graduated from Texas and m he did be
Speaker 1: right back when More Money to Make Conversations masterclass, you
Speaker 1: are now tuned into the money making conversations. Minute of
Speaker 1: Inspiration with Rashaan McDonald. Hi Rashan McDonald for Money Making Conversations, Masterclass,
Speaker 1: Weeacher Daily Minute of Inspiration. This week, I sat down
Speaker 1: with the host of the History Channel series Adams Eat
Speaker 1: the Eighties, food author and culinary entrepreneur Adam Richmond. He
Speaker 1: talks about the importance of getting familiar with success, but
Speaker 1: also getting familiar with the steps necessary to get there.
Speaker 1: Bill Maher once said, we live in a guitar hero
Speaker 1: culture where everybody wants to play the solo, but nobody
Speaker 1: wants to learn the chords. Yes, and I think that
Speaker 1: these are people that spend time in the trenches and
Speaker 1: you don't realize how much sweat equity. You know, people
Speaker 1: hear about the success, but they don't really pay attention
Speaker 1: to what it to to get there. And I think
Speaker 1: that that's that's the coolest part. If you want to
Speaker 1: listen to this full interview with Ada Richmond, it's available
Speaker 1: on Mortymaking Conversation dot com. Speaking to Greg Carter, a
Speaker 1: good friend, good friend, UM, knowing him in the business
Speaker 1: as a director known this the business, a writer, a producer. UM.
Speaker 1: A lot of your projects don't have the massive budgets
Speaker 1: tied to them, whether it's a television series or as
Speaker 1: a movie series. How do you sit down and and
Speaker 1: and apply budget to the project that you're trying to do?
Speaker 1: Greg Carter, Well, I think a lot of times what
Speaker 1: I try to do is coming from the standpoint of
Speaker 1: where can I get the biggest bang for my buck.
Speaker 1: I don't try to dial back on what I envisioned
Speaker 1: as part of the story, but I just try to
Speaker 1: find a place in people around me who can believe
Speaker 1: in what I'm trying to do and all the local
Speaker 1: locations where it works for the context of how much
Speaker 1: money we have to spend and push through from there.
Speaker 1: I've been very lucky and blessed that Houston is my hometown,
Speaker 1: and my hometown represents all the time when I'm looking
Speaker 1: for people to be in front of the camera, but
Speaker 1: also looking for people who are going to be behind
Speaker 1: the camera to help them make the movies and and
Speaker 1: and that's that's where I draw my put my my
Speaker 1: flag in the sand, which is, you know, trying to
Speaker 1: try to find a place where you're going to get
Speaker 1: the support and not all times you're going to find
Speaker 1: people who want to see your vision or where you do,
Speaker 1: but most importantly, if you can if you can find
Speaker 1: that place, that hometown where they got, where they got
Speaker 1: supporting love for you. That's a big part of making
Speaker 1: any budget work. But other than that, you know, you're
Speaker 1: trying to work within the confines of the of the
Speaker 1: unions like SAG and whatnot, and trying to figure out
Speaker 1: things to make it most cost effective. Maybe you you
Speaker 1: try to make sure your locations. Look, I have a fattist,
Speaker 1: but the script you want to shoot, you know, don't
Speaker 1: have a hundred locations in it right right? And also
Speaker 1: short the production window as well really helps out as well.
Speaker 1: Exactly when you look at what you're doing, like you
Speaker 1: have the fifth Ward series and then you have this
Speaker 1: hip hop Christmas series it comes about, and so that
Speaker 1: allows you to how has that affected your career? It
Speaker 1: made you feel take a deep breath because you have
Speaker 1: upcoming projects that you can count on, or it gives
Speaker 1: your resume that allows you to go out and get
Speaker 1: other projects. Well, I would say to any young person
Speaker 1: I teach. You mentioned that I teach at university. You
Speaker 1: see you're Alalatta, so I'm a professor there. I would
Speaker 1: say that the one thing that I try to do
Speaker 1: take my foot off the gas pedal always can continually
Speaker 1: feeling like, you know, I've got to be making sure
Speaker 1: that the job that I'm looking for is not one
Speaker 1: that I'm just dreaming about. But whatever I go wants
Speaker 1: to get to it and make it happen. I say
Speaker 1: to myself, I want to do Marvel movies. I say
Speaker 1: to myself, I want to you know, win an Oscar.
Speaker 1: But I also know that that saying it and having
Speaker 1: a dream is one thing. You have to have goals
Speaker 1: and try to work toward that. So I've been very
Speaker 1: blessed and lucky to work with my good friend at
Speaker 1: Torry Turner and Jamie Foxx movies with Vacom, CBS and
Speaker 1: to that extent MTV. I've had growing up for partnerships
Speaker 1: with people like uh Brett Dismuch and All Black, and
Speaker 1: you know, with my TV series fifth Ward, and you know,
Speaker 1: as I get ready to maybe move and do and
Speaker 1: do series do a season three and four that's come
Speaker 1: to fruition as well as as well as the other
Speaker 1: stuff I'm developing, I've worked very hard to have the
Speaker 1: opportunity to have a voice, a seat at the table,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what you hope to have. You know,
Speaker 1: nothing is guaranteed and show business. There's always an opportunity,
Speaker 1: but you have to really go and drill and do
Speaker 1: the work to make that opportunity to come to fruition.
Speaker 1: And So another project I've been wanting to do for
Speaker 1: a long time is people don't realize that slavery was
Speaker 1: abolished twice in the state of Texas. Abraham Abraham Lincoln
Speaker 1: aboliship but people don't realize that Texas had slavery abolished
Speaker 1: first by a black man. Texas was part of Mexico
Speaker 1: and Mexico Mexican president. He was the first black president
Speaker 1: in North America before Barack Obama. Limb was Vincenta Guerrero.
Speaker 1: He was president of Mexico and he was the second
Speaker 1: president of Mexico, and he basically abolished slavery in Mexico,
Speaker 1: which included at that time Texas. And that story was
Speaker 1: passed down to me by my relatives who lived in
Speaker 1: East Texas Cherokee County, East Texas, of how we had
Speaker 1: relatives who were made free and then they became slaves again,
Speaker 1: and then it was free again, uh, some almost forty
Speaker 1: years later with Lincoln. So these are things and I
Speaker 1: try that I relate to uh, that that have that
Speaker 1: speak to me that I want to be involved in
Speaker 1: and tell. And so for that it means that I've
Speaker 1: always I never take my foot off the gas pel,
Speaker 1: you know, before we are wraptors up and I you know,
Speaker 1: you're one of my favorite guests. And when you come
Speaker 1: on and you you articulate what I feel my audience
Speaker 1: needs to hear a degree of honesty because you've been there,
Speaker 1: done that when you're talking to students, and I think
Speaker 1: that's really a blessing that you know, you always want
Speaker 1: to stay relevant, you want to stay topical walking into
Speaker 1: classroom and then teaching. Does that help you as a producer,
Speaker 1: as a writer, as a director, being around young people,
Speaker 1: articulating conversation back and forth movement with these people, It
Speaker 1: certainly does, I would blessed. I'm one of those guys
Speaker 1: that started working on My Doctors seventeen years ago and
Speaker 1: it took me just until last year to finish. But
Speaker 1: I was working at You of Age starting at the
Speaker 1: beginning of around the beginning of the pandemic teaching, and
Speaker 1: so I just for me trying to show my journey
Speaker 1: has never been just about me. My journey has been
Speaker 1: about trying to help and up left others, whether it's
Speaker 1: people who work on my film set or in this case, students,
Speaker 1: and get them the real information they need to go
Speaker 1: out there and be successful. I told my students, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be satisfied until they can walk into
Speaker 1: any situation and know that they can handle it. Whether
Speaker 1: they're going to be a writer, director, or producer, they
Speaker 1: can have those skill sets. And I want to try
Speaker 1: to build a film program at the University of Houston
Speaker 1: that is on par with usc UCLA, a FI and
Speaker 1: to school back in New York. So these are the
Speaker 1: things that I you know, you know, what are the
Speaker 1: things that you do so masterfully, Rushan is that you
Speaker 1: paint your legacy so that the world can see it
Speaker 1: with all the things you've done and the brands that
Speaker 1: you've helped build. And I just hope to be able
Speaker 1: to do kind of like you to help build my
Speaker 1: legacy through through education and upliftic young folks. But also
Speaker 1: but I continue to make movies that and TV shows
Speaker 1: that enlightened and entertain So yeah, thank you great for calling.
Speaker 1: The end of day, we got to get you back
Speaker 1: because of the fact that you have so much to say,
Speaker 1: Greg Carter before we wrap up real quick, please kill
Speaker 1: them how they can reach out to you, Great Carter,
Speaker 1: And as we close out the show, yeah, please find
Speaker 1: You can find me on my Instagram, Greg Carter Nexus
Speaker 1: at Greg Carter Nexus and you can find me at
Speaker 1: the same hand on Facebook as well. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 1: We talked soon. I want to thank all the fans
Speaker 1: who call in on a regular basis of the ones
Speaker 1: who just listened to the show. This is rus Sean McDonald.
Speaker 1: Every Tuesday, we'll be here on Money Making Conversation, Domestic
Speaker 1: Lass and Greg Carter. Thank you for participating this week. Man.
Speaker 1: I always believe in Yeah, and I trust you deliver
Speaker 1: the information that my audience w to hear every time
Speaker 1: you call my show. We're talking soon, Okay, appreciate you.
Speaker 1: She's on the show to date because she's one of
Speaker 1: the stars of the Amazon series Hallom Shaniqua Sunday. She
Speaker 1: is a actress, singer, and up and coming fashion icon
Speaker 1: from the East Coast who has been graciously sweeping entertainment
Speaker 1: interest since she was three years old. Three years old,
Speaker 1: that's when she realized you wanted to be there, do
Speaker 1: this for a living. Shaniqua's character Angie on the show
Speaker 1: Harlem has a big, sexy personality and a fashion sense
Speaker 1: to matchup. I've known because I watched the first season
Speaker 1: and I've called up on this season, So I am
Speaker 1: a fan of the show Hallom and the show. Shaniqua's
Speaker 1: character is always worrying about the series of high fashion looks,
Speaker 1: who she's dating, whether whether it's the right man in
Speaker 1: her life. But she breaks these serial type because it's
Speaker 1: about fashion and love. The show hallms you're not familiar
Speaker 1: with it shines to spotlight on four girlfriends, Angie who
Speaker 1: all be interviewing an mini minute Camille played by making Good,
Speaker 1: Quinn played by Race Buyers, and Ty who plays the
Speaker 1: Who's played by Jerry Johnson, as they managed their careers
Speaker 1: and loved lives in New York City. Please welcome to
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations master Class for the very first time, Shaniqua, Sunday.
Speaker 1: How you doing this Sunday? Hey? I am wonderful, Thank you?
Speaker 1: How are you doing? First of all, where are you
Speaker 1: calling from? Just just get a base to you know,
Speaker 1: or you in a weather area that's really heavy snow
Speaker 1: or is it warm world yet? Right? Now, Shaniqua, I
Speaker 1: am in a bizarre weather area right now. I'm in
Speaker 1: LA and we are having a bit of a right
Speaker 1: but from snow I'm hearing in other parties as well.
Speaker 1: So global warming is real. Well you know that. There's
Speaker 1: the funny point about that. I lived in LA for
Speaker 1: fifteen years, so I never saw snow left living there
Speaker 1: from nineteen ninety to two thousand, two thousand and five,
Speaker 1: and so so when I heard that it was snowing,
Speaker 1: and then a friend of mine sent me some photos
Speaker 1: of actual snow in the valley and the valley it
Speaker 1: really is the hottest part of LA. I was like
Speaker 1: taking it back. So you really are experiencing that the
Speaker 1: temperatures in the twenties and all these days. Give us
Speaker 1: some give us your I'm in the bottom half of
Speaker 1: the valley. It literally maybe twenty minutes from me. If now, wow,
Speaker 1: because yeah, it's happening out here now. Now, where are
Speaker 1: you originally from? Shaniquam. I was born in New York
Speaker 1: and Harlan, but I grew up in Virginia. I grew
Speaker 1: up in Richmond, Virginia in the eight or four. Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: well I got I got my youngest brother. He's in
Speaker 1: the DC Virginia area of Maryland, DC area now and then,
Speaker 1: so so I traveled there a lot. But I want
Speaker 1: to get into your life, your story. I always like
Speaker 1: to slow it down. This is not a show where
Speaker 1: I get to I show where I wanted to try
Speaker 1: to ambush little Selasius question. That's not what you shows about.
Speaker 1: This shows about your career. How did you get started?
Speaker 1: And also if you can, if you can in part
Speaker 1: them inspiring, you know, tipbits to tips to people who
Speaker 1: are listening to my show. So I want to go
Speaker 1: all the way back to you wanting to be in
Speaker 1: be in this industry because I always admire people who
Speaker 1: get it at a young age and then pursue it
Speaker 1: as a dream. And in your bio I read that
Speaker 1: at the age of three, this is something that you considered.
Speaker 1: It was something that was inspiring or just motivated that
Speaker 1: you wanted to do. Is that correct? Absolutely. I grew
Speaker 1: up in a household with music and arts and my
Speaker 1: grand my grandmother is a writer, and we would sing
Speaker 1: home from the Wiz and Little Mermaid of course right
Speaker 1: all the time, all the time, And by three years old,
Speaker 1: I have sawlid in Love with the Tina turn of story,
Speaker 1: which I was too young to have been watching What's
Speaker 1: Love Got to Do with It? Way too young? But
Speaker 1: I performed Proud Mary in a Mall talent show at three. Um.
Speaker 1: So it's always been the artistry has been. It's the
Speaker 1: way I communicate. I've always been very very clear as
Speaker 1: to what I wanted. A dreamer. Somebody say, but we
Speaker 1: live in another streams now and still got someone to reach. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: artistry was always there, my my grandma, rights, my great grandpa.
Speaker 1: I played the heart of Monica. Um And I always
Speaker 1: knew there were other ways to express myself even if
Speaker 1: I didn't have words. Get something else for me to do,
Speaker 1: to help, to help stories and to say all that
Speaker 1: I'm feeling. And art became that. Well, you know, I
Speaker 1: have to smile to hear a three year old doing
Speaker 1: Proud Mary. You know, did you have the wig and
Speaker 1: everything back then? I did not. And I wish I
Speaker 1: had some video because I would love to see me
Speaker 1: screaming at three year because that's the one. At three
Speaker 1: it was full. I was screaming right right, right right,
Speaker 1: we screaming. I was doing this. But you are actually
Speaker 1: a talented singer. I read that in your body you
Speaker 1: have a song that you've just released. Talk about because like,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the fact that I'm trying to balance
Speaker 1: because obviously when you came into their business, it was
Speaker 1: based on your acting. And then when you say you
Speaker 1: want to do something like become a singer, what do
Speaker 1: people do? What do you management your agents or people
Speaker 1: around you. Do they question that or do they say
Speaker 1: go for it? Or I know you come from a
Speaker 1: family of talented people, but it's also an also world
Speaker 1: that you have to deal with people who say, stick
Speaker 1: to what you're doing, put all your efforts in one basket.
Speaker 1: Talk to me, that is very much what people say.
Speaker 1: And it's so surprising when we live in this like era,
Speaker 1: or at least within the industry, there's so much belief
Speaker 1: and so much and what you can't see. There's so
Speaker 1: much faith in a project that doesn't have a script
Speaker 1: yet and all of these things, and where we know
Speaker 1: everyone's an artists, where yet people want you to stick
Speaker 1: was working in what the paycheck. They know in the
Speaker 1: way that they recognize. And so you get a lot
Speaker 1: of people who are supportive, but also a lot of
Speaker 1: people are like, well, music won't take off until you're
Speaker 1: a certain place in acting and focus on what you
Speaker 1: don't want to be a jack of all trades and
Speaker 1: a master of none all of these other things. And
Speaker 1: I was like, well, what would I be if I
Speaker 1: limited what my belief? I would have stayed in Virginia
Speaker 1: and did something else. So why would I have as
Speaker 1: much faith in my music as I have in my
Speaker 1: acting when people said I wouldn't be able to do that?
Speaker 1: You know, And honestly, what's so crazy to me is
Speaker 1: that God wants me to be doing this and I
Speaker 1: say that, and I don't say that lightness. Literally every
Speaker 1: role that's taken in my acting career that it's like
Speaker 1: been pivotal in moving me forward, has been music related.
Speaker 1: So I can't ignore what is destined down to Harlamam
Speaker 1: playing us Anger the movie before that Body, I played
Speaker 1: a battle rapper that was produced by eminem And it's
Speaker 1: just like all of these things that these cookie crowns
Speaker 1: that God has been given me a bread crome that
Speaker 1: leads to so much more. And and what's another thing
Speaker 1: that's so interesting by people wanting to limit is that
Speaker 1: I don't know one artist who only does one thing
Speaker 1: right right now. You can't be an entrepreneur and only
Speaker 1: do one thing. But specifically with art, I don't know
Speaker 1: one person who says our own sing or I only right,
Speaker 1: our only act. Megan Good who directed my music video
Speaker 1: is also a director, you know, and Beyonce and everybody
Speaker 1: else or any then alto my friends, I don't know
Speaker 1: what a single artist who doesn't express themselves in more
Speaker 1: more than one way of the form. You know, that's important,
Speaker 1: that that's important that you have those examples. Those are
Speaker 1: important that you see people who are doing it and
Speaker 1: they are to in turn until you go forward. But
Speaker 1: I think because of social media, how does social media
Speaker 1: player role in your success? Now? The social media has
Speaker 1: been a very vanished official to me in a personal way. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: in the business of it all, you have access to
Speaker 1: people that you don't have access to. There's no gatekeepers.
Speaker 1: With social media. You can slide in open one free dams.
Speaker 1: I don't know if she would see them, but you can,
Speaker 1: you know, And so I love that right now, especially
Speaker 1: in a place where there's a little bit of eyes.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a social media allows the removal of gatekeepers.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to have someone's pub of
Speaker 1: publicist information or the agents information or managers. You can
Speaker 1: just literally reach out to them or build a rapport
Speaker 1: through commenting and connect in that aspect. On a personal where,
Speaker 1: I was blessed by social media because I've been working
Speaker 1: on taking up more space and I feel that I
Speaker 1: do that with fashion and I do that with my dreams.
Speaker 1: But I initially ran to acting because it was a
Speaker 1: there was a place to hide as and as far
Speaker 1: as like what I had to say, like my voice
Speaker 1: wasn't as identifiable when you can put on Shakespeare's writing,
Speaker 1: you know. And so what I like about social media
Speaker 1: is it allows for you to take up space digitally
Speaker 1: and to get into the practice of building the sales
Speaker 1: aspect of you, which is the share, the tail, the
Speaker 1: building relationships and those things. I really stretched those muscles
Speaker 1: with social media because it can be very hard for
Speaker 1: me to talk about what I've done and all of
Speaker 1: the things that like the bragging, things that steel like
Speaker 1: bragging but are influential in uniquing further business connections. You
Speaker 1: have to talk about it, you know. And I find
Speaker 1: that I'm strengthening that marketing and sales muscle with posting
Speaker 1: on Instagram and take our challenging myself to post on
Speaker 1: Instagram and take talking about I love it. I love
Speaker 1: it Well. I'm speaking to Shaniqua Shanda. She's one of
Speaker 1: the stars of the series, the streaming series called Harlem.
Speaker 1: It's a comedy. It's on Amazon Prime. That's the second season.
Speaker 1: It's just a new single out call something about you
Speaker 1: that you can get. But more importantly, it's about her character,
Speaker 1: her ability to overcome stereotypes. When I watch that character,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a very high energy character. And when
Speaker 1: we come back from break, I wanted to talk about that,
Speaker 1: but I also I wanted to talk about the fact
Speaker 1: that La Everybody knows that this original character was supposed
Speaker 1: to do nudity, and we're gonna discuss how Miss Shanday
Speaker 1: convinced them that that was not the path that she
Speaker 1: was going to go and obviously she's delivering because she's
Speaker 1: into the second season Harlem. We'll be right back with
Speaker 1: more with Miss Shaniqua Sunday and her career and a
Speaker 1: discussion of how she sees the future beyond television, beyond streaming,
Speaker 1: beyond music, more of a money making conversation hosted by
Speaker 1: Rushan McDonald Masterclass. We'll be right back with more Money
Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. You are now tuned
Speaker 1: into the Money Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rashaan McDonald.
Speaker 1: Hi and Rushan McDonald for Money Making Conversation Masterclass with
Speaker 1: your daily Minute of Inspiration. This week I sat down
Speaker 1: with counseling psychologists and sports mental health expert doctor T. M. Moseley.
Speaker 1: She talks about the importance of changing the conversation around
Speaker 1: mental health and getting rid of surrounding stigmas. Many of
Speaker 1: the aspects of mental health have been heavily stigmatized and
Speaker 1: for us, we want to change the game and change
Speaker 1: this conversation. We don't get to peak performance if we
Speaker 1: don't take care of ourselves or if we're going to
Speaker 1: do things to make sure our bodies are well, we
Speaker 1: have to do the same things for our minds. So
Speaker 1: there's a common misconception that when I say mental health,
Speaker 1: it's completed with mental illness or mental disorder, and that's
Speaker 1: not the case. Everybody has mental health like they have
Speaker 1: physical health, and we've got to do things to make
Speaker 1: sure that we check in. If you want to listen
Speaker 1: to this full interview with doctor TM Moosley. It's available
Speaker 1: on Moneymaking Conversation dot com. I'm speaking with Shaniqua Day.
Speaker 1: It's one of the stars of Harlem, which a strange
Speaker 1: right now in the second season. Very good, very good.
Speaker 1: It's about four ladies. Lead character is lead actress is
Speaker 1: making good in this series. When the opportunity is presented
Speaker 1: to you, shand to be one of the auditions for
Speaker 1: this role, NWY was one of the what they do
Speaker 1: these outsides and they tell you Sometimes these sides, they
Speaker 1: tell you what type of person they're looking for. They
Speaker 1: tell you, but they also tell you a certain certain things.
Speaker 1: They might want you to be athletic. They might ask you,
Speaker 1: do you know martial arts? He might ask you, or
Speaker 1: if you know poetry, if you can sing. These type
Speaker 1: of things come out insides, but also inside sometimes they
Speaker 1: tell you whether or not close or optional or they
Speaker 1: would expect new, new new partness. This would happen, this
Speaker 1: was presented to you. Correct, Yes, yes, there was. Um.
Speaker 1: I got the notification while I was at them all
Speaker 1: and we do I like so And because the response
Speaker 1: was just that quickly, of just that quick I saw,
Speaker 1: oh it's an Unsie didn't even have a name yet,
Speaker 1: it was untitled Tracy Oliver Project, and every black actress
Speaker 1: she just did Girls Trip was ready to work with
Speaker 1: her right. Um. And then I saw that the role
Speaker 1: required nudity. It's must do nudity, and immediately, well, um,
Speaker 1: I already have kind of like an understanding with my
Speaker 1: representation at the time that I don't even auditions for
Speaker 1: us type of the world because you fear. Don't tend
Speaker 1: it to me because I don't want to be tempted
Speaker 1: like all of those things. Um. And also to because
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're gonna get so much time. You're gonna
Speaker 1: get my tears, my vulnerability, you're gonna get my pain
Speaker 1: and fears. You don't gotta get me naked too, So
Speaker 1: you gotta get me naked. I'm gonna give you. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give your emotion. I'm gonna give you laughter, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you I'm gonna give you my smile, video
Speaker 1: all day lessons, lead all of it. But we nobody
Speaker 1: else has to get make it for their job. I'm
Speaker 1: not doing it for mine. Um. And then so but
Speaker 1: did you did you did you fear? But did you
Speaker 1: not fear? Losing the opportunity because it's Tracy Oliver. Tracy Oliver,
Speaker 1: I know she said go as Girls Trip. There was
Speaker 1: a YID movie Tiffany had. This really made her career?
Speaker 1: Was it made her the star she is today? Was
Speaker 1: that movie that was done with Will Packer Production? Huge?
Speaker 1: You get this call yeah, Tracy, she makes made a superstar?
Speaker 1: Mean traite. Tiffany was who she was, but the launching
Speaker 1: head and the show, the pedestal that was created around
Speaker 1: her with Girls Trip and just the amazingment of that
Speaker 1: film and First Wives Clubs and everything else. Until seeing
Speaker 1: First Wives Club and knowing that she shoots curvy body
Speaker 1: you see you know very well and loves us itself,
Speaker 1: it did feel like a big risk. Um. I had
Speaker 1: literally maybe a couple of months prior, just came across
Speaker 1: a message from another actress. She spoke at a church
Speaker 1: and I found a video like a Buena Finley I
Speaker 1: believe her name is, and she um talked about an
Speaker 1: opportunity where she booked the gig like actually had it
Speaker 1: was hers and then had to talk to the director
Speaker 1: about not wanting to do nudity, and I just believe, Okay,
Speaker 1: let me get you straight. So so another actress booked
Speaker 1: in the same role. No, no, No, This is another
Speaker 1: project she did a few years ago, and I came
Speaker 1: across the video and she talked about how she had
Speaker 1: to talk to the director about not wanting to do
Speaker 1: nudity after she had already booked a role, and I
Speaker 1: just it helped affirm me and give me permission to
Speaker 1: stand on my ground even more. And honestly, I feel
Speaker 1: like anything that is swarming is going to come to me.
Speaker 1: I don't have to push my moral adjust my morals
Speaker 1: for it. Um. I definitely don't have to adjust my
Speaker 1: beliefs for it. It's it's supposed to be mine. It's
Speaker 1: going to come in the way that I'm able to
Speaker 1: receive it, um. And if it's not, then bless the
Speaker 1: woman who gets it. But I'm so grateful to Tracy
Speaker 1: because literally within ten minutes or so, I was still
Speaker 1: in the same location, I got a message a call
Speaker 1: from my agents at the time, and they were saying,
Speaker 1: you know, she doesn't want you anyone to feel uncomfortable. Um,
Speaker 1: you don't have to do nudity. And it's like she
Speaker 1: doesn't even know me. I haven't even auditioned for she
Speaker 1: hasn't seen my work, she don't know my name from Adam,
Speaker 1: and would be willing to adjust the integrity of her
Speaker 1: character for someone she hasn't even seen read for. I
Speaker 1: was like, well, that's somebody I want to work with.
Speaker 1: You know, Well, here's the funny point about this character
Speaker 1: that she plays, because Angie hyper sext all she talks
Speaker 1: about is in jumping in and ill all the time,
Speaker 1: all the time, all the time, all the time. And
Speaker 1: she's the curvy member of the team. And I bring
Speaker 1: that up because we have so many stereotypes in Hollywood
Speaker 1: saying that they need to look at a certain place.
Speaker 1: And then I read this article about this, this quote
Speaker 1: that out of You're saying being a dark, skinny, curvy
Speaker 1: woman with a gap teeth kids are heart So I'm
Speaker 1: assuming as you, as as as a person who grew up,
Speaker 1: you had to deal with this look and maybe some bullying.
Speaker 1: Is that correct? Absolutely? Yeah, I was. I was traumatized
Speaker 1: of um. And it's like, you know, it's being curvy,
Speaker 1: it's being dark skinned, it's having a guy and also
Speaker 1: having the audacity to be who I am, which is
Speaker 1: someone who takes up space and so especially coming from
Speaker 1: the South, where we are told to be as small
Speaker 1: as possible, like that those beliefs are still in Virginia.
Speaker 1: The monuments of slave owners and civil Civil War leaders
Speaker 1: that we are still celebrated, which was just pulled down
Speaker 1: a year and a half ago, and that's because black
Speaker 1: young black activists did it in the city. So the
Speaker 1: through line of know your place is a big thing
Speaker 1: in Virginia. And I don't by those kind of rules.
Speaker 1: So I got tortured because of it constantly now. But
Speaker 1: that but I said, in knowing who you are, and
Speaker 1: because we've all I know, I couldn't have examples of
Speaker 1: me being bullied because when you are different and don't
Speaker 1: want to comply, people tend to want to personalize that
Speaker 1: by attacking you or trying to break you down. And
Speaker 1: when you look at Hollywood, you look at the character
Speaker 1: you play. Just give us your version of what your
Speaker 1: character is. Because I'm a viewer, I'm a I'm watching
Speaker 1: the show. But what do you like about your character
Speaker 1: Angie on Harlem? And then let's find out about that,
Speaker 1: and then let's talk about the relationship of the other characters.
Speaker 1: Did you interact on the show? What I love the
Speaker 1: mouth about Angie is HER's bravado. How she loves and
Speaker 1: values herself in spite of her circumstances, like nothing that
Speaker 1: you could say to her out what we nothing regarding
Speaker 1: her career, having seemingly nothing, being on her friend's couch,
Speaker 1: being unemployed, she still knows who she is completely and
Speaker 1: utterly and requires the world to respond to that level
Speaker 1: of herself. She's a superstar, whether she got a record
Speaker 1: deal or whether she's unemployed. And being in a time
Speaker 1: where we are so obsessed with looking at others, I
Speaker 1: think it's so beautiful to see a dark skinned, curvy,
Speaker 1: confident woman who feels her own tank and it does
Speaker 1: not um, It's not based on how other people see
Speaker 1: her at all. Okay, now that not explained to me
Speaker 1: the characters. Now you have your character and I'm just
Speaker 1: your character straight on the show, correct, Yes, Okay, then
Speaker 1: you have no, I'm not Actually, I'm like, do I know,
Speaker 1: I feel like there's been moments of shearing about Angie
Speaker 1: experimenting with women before, but I haven't seen it, right, right, right,
Speaker 1: But I'm just talking about from what we've seen on
Speaker 1: the show, and then you have Yeah, but I'm saying
Speaker 1: there's been conversations because you you know something, we won't
Speaker 1: get too detailed. We won't get too detailed because I
Speaker 1: was about to bring up some other topics on this show.
Speaker 1: We probably lose our license messing with you on this
Speaker 1: show to day and then and then Mega's character, a
Speaker 1: good character is bouncing between two guys. She's confused from
Speaker 1: a love perspective. And then m and then ties character
Speaker 1: she just divorced her husband and because she realized who
Speaker 1: she really is, that that was not the life that
Speaker 1: she wanted to live. And she's living her life as
Speaker 1: a queer, and so she's defining that now. The one
Speaker 1: character really is confused about is cute who is she
Speaker 1: que Queen's Gimmy Quinn Quinn's character, who is she? You know?
Speaker 1: Because the last episode that I saw, you know she
Speaker 1: found this guy? Did she realized that, Hey, I haven't
Speaker 1: found who I am? And and basically potentially she walked
Speaker 1: away from from the true love of her life. Where
Speaker 1: is she seeking love and who is she? And does
Speaker 1: she have a balance in her mind? Because her mom
Speaker 1: played by the amazing Jasmine Guy. By the way, Jasmine
Speaker 1: Guy is amazing, and that Whoopie Goldbert I can't get
Speaker 1: enough of her on this series. She's just fantastic and
Speaker 1: everything that she does with mega good, it's gold. If
Speaker 1: you if you just watched the episode just to see
Speaker 1: jas mcgoty pop in. She plays Quinn's mother on the show,
Speaker 1: and she just lets her know that it may be
Speaker 1: a mental issue because she let her know about her father.
Speaker 1: So these characters, with all these dynamic emotional threads, where
Speaker 1: is from an emotional standpoint in relationships, does Quinn stand?
Speaker 1: I think, like you, I think you said it. I
Speaker 1: think Quinn is standing to find a relationship with herself.
Speaker 1: I think so much of who she is has been
Speaker 1: determined by the boxes that she believes she needs to check.
Speaker 1: For her mother, it was for her family was being
Speaker 1: as successful as possible, and she did that enough in
Speaker 1: a financial industry and wasn't happy, and so she went
Speaker 1: to artistry and she's like, Okay, well, if I can
Speaker 1: check this box about love on that will make me happy.
Speaker 1: So she's been pursuing a partner as the way some
Speaker 1: people pursue a co rear and realizing and completely neglecting
Speaker 1: her own mental health and wellness. At the same time,
Speaker 1: she's the strong friend who is there to support everyone,
Speaker 1: to be your sounding board and your support system in
Speaker 1: place of encouragement, but doesn't quite have the voice to
Speaker 1: say when she needs someone. And I think you really
Speaker 1: get to see that in her battle with mental health
Speaker 1: this season and finally having the courage to ask for
Speaker 1: her friends and say she needs them. Ultimately, yeah, she
Speaker 1: found someone she loves, but it came at a time
Speaker 1: where she's really needing to take care of herself, and
Speaker 1: I don't think she would be it would benefit her
Speaker 1: as a human being at all, knowing that her cup
Speaker 1: is empty right now and that she's in such a
Speaker 1: space where I'm trying to become mentally stable to jump
Speaker 1: in relationship, and so I think it's actually very brave
Speaker 1: of her to say, especially since she's been choosing and
Speaker 1: wanting after men and wanting to be chosen so badly,
Speaker 1: to finally say, actually, the most important relationship that I
Speaker 1: have and can have is the one with myself. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the beauty of this show. Yeah, that's the beauty
Speaker 1: of this show because of the fact that therefore women,
Speaker 1: each one of you, each one of the characters, is
Speaker 1: definitely distinctively different than the other, each character the only
Speaker 1: emotional baggage or relationship baggage. But their girlfriends and their
Speaker 1: girlfriends who And I was just thinking back back when
Speaker 1: I was in college, you know, and I and you
Speaker 1: know some I had some boys that I ran like that.
Speaker 1: You know, we went out, we had each other's back,
Speaker 1: we talked, we had our guide conversation, and we lived
Speaker 1: that life. And so but this is a lifetime relationship
Speaker 1: that we see that's being presented out here. And the
Speaker 1: beauty of this last episode, I can't even reveal the
Speaker 1: cliffhanger that they put on this last episode. Y'all just
Speaker 1: gotta watch it. This clear finger they put on this
Speaker 1: last episode. I will not give that other way, Shaniqua.
Speaker 1: They just gotta watch this past episode to be prepared
Speaker 1: for the episode that comes out this week. But again,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for you in this series as we leave.
Speaker 1: What other projects are you working on? I'm working on
Speaker 1: music right now, dropping from new music. And you know what,
Speaker 1: I've always been very very bold with my my ask
Speaker 1: of God. I want an international action comedy rics. I
Speaker 1: want to be running through Morocco and Malan and laughing
Speaker 1: and doing press all over this world. I think, Um,
Speaker 1: I think it was really joyous and being able to
Speaker 1: experience some of that and this past season with the
Speaker 1: physicality of Angie Um, I want to do more of it.
Speaker 1: I want to ride more bikes, play with helicopters. Faull jumped. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be right if you can hold on. Men,
Speaker 1: I want to ask you one more question for we
Speaker 1: go after we come back from a break, because you've
Speaker 1: been a fantastic interview and the whole importance of this
Speaker 1: series is that I know there are a lot of women,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of teenagers who watch into my
Speaker 1: show because there's also airs on twenty one HBCU stations
Speaker 1: across the country. And I want you to just talk
Speaker 1: about the empowering when people are negative, when people are
Speaker 1: hitting you with stereotypes, how you react. So I just
Speaker 1: want to give you a few moments to just really
Speaker 1: think about how you'd like to respond, because it's important
Speaker 1: when people tell you what you can do, and you
Speaker 1: have to sometimes follow your dreams. I shouldn't say sometimes
Speaker 1: follow your dreams, but you got to do it with
Speaker 1: a support group. Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right
Speaker 1: back with more money making conversations masterclass. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you about the host of Money Making Conversations, Rushan McDonald.
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Speaker 1: hosted by Rushan McDonald. Racism is in Hollywood. Agism is
Speaker 1: in Hollywood. Stereotypes stereotyping is in Hollywood, and sexism most
Speaker 1: definitely it's in Hollywood. But this is a world that
Speaker 1: we have to that people want to participate in. I
Speaker 1: wanted to be a part of it, but I had
Speaker 1: to deal with the reality of it. But also when
Speaker 1: you look at reality. They're stereotyping. There are people who
Speaker 1: think that this is how this is what people want,
Speaker 1: This is what you should look like, this is what
Speaker 1: you should be. You should be this side, you should
Speaker 1: wear your hair color this color, you should you should
Speaker 1: be this skin tone. These are stereotypes that can force
Speaker 1: you to sometimes throw your hands up and walk away.
Speaker 1: On the call that I'm inter being a fantastic actor
Speaker 1: actress Shiniko Shande. She's one of the stars of Harlem,
Speaker 1: and as we wrap up this interview, I just wanted
Speaker 1: her to talk about, you know, the growth process, being
Speaker 1: able to come to overcome the art, to overcome the negativity,
Speaker 1: and being in a good position. Shiniquoa, I hope I
Speaker 1: didn't put you on the spot, but I know that
Speaker 1: you're a person who has a strong opinion and a
Speaker 1: person who's a survivor. A survivor and the fact that
Speaker 1: you know you're not gonna let anybody close adorn you,
Speaker 1: that you can actually open tell us about your experiences,
Speaker 1: are being able to overcome stereotypes in Hollywood as an
Speaker 1: everyday life as well. I keep my dreams close to me.
Speaker 1: I keep what I'm going for surrounding me and whether
Speaker 1: that is like watching films in case there's low days,
Speaker 1: watching films and music and things that are inspiring. I
Speaker 1: used to have a dream wall when I was in
Speaker 1: my teams and pointings, and people have a vision board.
Speaker 1: I had a whole entire wall. Where about the build
Speaker 1: again of just all of just keeping visuals of everything
Speaker 1: that I want in front of me and getting the
Speaker 1: muscle of faith as practiced and as strong as possible.
Speaker 1: I think it's unsounds silly, but I think we got it.
Speaker 1: Takes like believing in yourself the way Kanye belief for himself,
Speaker 1: which issues like not quite irrational, but maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit of that. You have to be so sure of
Speaker 1: what you can't see and what others can't see, and
Speaker 1: and they're gonna put all of their disbeliefs and fears
Speaker 1: on you. You have to be like folick with like
Speaker 1: the oil of self so that stuff can fall right
Speaker 1: off of you. And I'm realizing how much we are
Speaker 1: all used and connected in order to help someone else
Speaker 1: be used and be connected. And so I personally don't
Speaker 1: only do it for myself, but I do it for
Speaker 1: younger versions of people who love me. Of curvy chocolate,
Speaker 1: Other people who don't see themselves, people who feel other
Speaker 1: people who don't see see themselves when they see here
Speaker 1: the time, leading woman, leading man, as many places as
Speaker 1: I can be in as authentically as myself, taking up
Speaker 1: as much space as I can, it allows someone else
Speaker 1: to do the same, And so you can reach a
Speaker 1: down and help bring people up, and you can so
Speaker 1: be a vessel and a light while also in the
Speaker 1: moment as well, and so wanting people to see themselves,
Speaker 1: wanting people to feel represented, wanting people to feel empowered
Speaker 1: enough to turn their light on and shine as greatly
Speaker 1: as possible is one of my huge motivators, because when
Speaker 1: we can flood the gates, then we don't need gatekeepers.
Speaker 1: So ultimately it's really really really believing in yourself and
Speaker 1: post that dream all over place. Talk about it now, stop,
Speaker 1: do a pep talk as you must, because it's we're
Speaker 1: so used to operating in what we see that's like
Speaker 1: the reality. But where in order to conquer anything, you
Speaker 1: have to be a little bit outside of that reality.
Speaker 1: And so keeping your mind and your spirit in those
Speaker 1: places will help it come to fruition. And I believe, well,
Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting you're saying that, you know, I
Speaker 1: think about myself off and sometimes you know, the dream
Speaker 1: seems so far away. Yeah, because it's like college. You know,
Speaker 1: you go to as a freshman, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you go a freshman, sophomore, junior, seeing you can graduate.
Speaker 1: But when you in entertainment and it's like where's the
Speaker 1: end game? Because like you said earlier, like sometimes you
Speaker 1: can audition for a show, it gets picked up, and
Speaker 1: then you can get canceled. So so you really never
Speaker 1: have that comfort zone of I made it. You know,
Speaker 1: this is even with this show harlem me. You know,
Speaker 1: we're happy as on, but we don't know whether it's
Speaker 1: going to be four or five or six seasons. We
Speaker 1: don't know that. And so because the things can change,
Speaker 1: was Wanta bro. They were canceling shows that have been ordered.
Speaker 1: They didn't care, they were just kicking them out. We
Speaker 1: don't want to do these shows. And so so does
Speaker 1: that ever get from my name because we talked about
Speaker 1: mental health from a standpoint of I know, I was
Speaker 1: sitting in my room in LA and I still today,
Speaker 1: I'm not just because they're not in enlatenment, don't when
Speaker 1: you hit these little bumps in the road that make
Speaker 1: you work, worry about paying a bill, make you worried
Speaker 1: about it's just the right decision that you make. Because
Speaker 1: a person who deals with a job nine to five,
Speaker 1: they go to the job and go to work at eight,
Speaker 1: they get off at five o'clock. They know forty hours
Speaker 1: a week, they get paid. But into our business, entertainment business,
Speaker 1: and you know what we're talking about, it can be
Speaker 1: so surreal because you never know when to be happy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because even while I've had moments thankfully like settled and
Speaker 1: balanced and have done the perspectives and inner work so
Speaker 1: that I can appreciate these moments well, previously will be
Speaker 1: on the way to a red carpet in tears because
Speaker 1: everyone asks you where you're doing next, and you don't know,
Speaker 1: especially when it's a movie where you don't get the residuals,
Speaker 1: you know, And so wanting to did a lot of
Speaker 1: drastic work within myself because I want to be able
Speaker 1: to appreciate everything as it's happening. And guests have all
Speaker 1: of the dreams and have ambition, and I've been called
Speaker 1: ambitious all of my life. Be ambitious, but also be
Speaker 1: appreciative of the work that I did right now and
Speaker 1: the work that is showing right now, and grateful for
Speaker 1: this time and celebrate it because I got so used
Speaker 1: to not celebrate anything because my mom is constantly on
Speaker 1: the what's next, and you miss all of these beautiful
Speaker 1: opportunities that way, And what is the life that you
Speaker 1: live and you work so hard for it, but don't
Speaker 1: celebrate it because you're so scared of what might happen.
Speaker 1: And so definitely I had to practice mindfulness with that.
Speaker 1: I practice a spirit of gratitude. I journal it like
Speaker 1: I journal every day, ten things that I'm grateful for
Speaker 1: every night, ten things in that day that I was
Speaker 1: grateful for, because I don't want to get so caught
Speaker 1: up in the what's next, what's next? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I can't the things I can't roll and miss the
Speaker 1: blessing of my work. But to sell all of that,
Speaker 1: I always been very clear about what I want next
Speaker 1: and very able to bet on myself. And I think
Speaker 1: that's what's required. When you say, oh, I got to
Speaker 1: show out what's next music and I want my next movie.
Speaker 1: I don't have to have it right now. I don't
Speaker 1: have to be scared. I don't have to have it
Speaker 1: in order to know that I will, and I don't
Speaker 1: have to have the confirmation right now in order for
Speaker 1: me to be joyous about today. But I want an
Speaker 1: international action film next. And I say that with all
Speaker 1: the confidence that I hope everyone else says that they
Speaker 1: want that, they that they want next, and they're able
Speaker 1: to manifest it for themselves. But don't. I don't know
Speaker 1: how to say it, but to you, don't be fearful,
Speaker 1: because as long as you're doing work, as long as
Speaker 1: you are, because you're face without working, face without works
Speaker 1: is dead. So as long as you are doing the
Speaker 1: work and being very specific and intentional and sowing the
Speaker 1: seeds and going out and networking and creating the project
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