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Speaker 1: My guest today.
Speaker 3: Is Amy Award winning sportscaster Brian custom well dressed.
Speaker 1: He joined ESPN in July twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3: Is an acre for a sports center and they played
Speaker 3: by play commentator for college football and basketball.
Speaker 1: He also has a.
Speaker 3: Keen eye for fashion and his distinct love for picking
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Speaker 3: realis man is an avid watch collector, sneaker head and
Speaker 3: co enthusiasts. Customer holds a degree in Broadcast Journalism from
Speaker 3: HBCU as they see the real h Hampton University. A
Speaker 3: cancer survivor, he's a sposed person for the pro State
Speaker 3: Prostate Cancer Foundation. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations master Class.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna get him a hard time because he
Speaker 3: ain't well dressed, y'all.
Speaker 1: Brian Custer.
Speaker 4: Very very well dressed because I got the colors on.
Speaker 1: I love it man. How you doing, sir man.
Speaker 5: It's a pleasure to be on the show.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I'm glad we was able to connect me because I
Speaker 3: am a fan and uh you know when I when
Speaker 3: I when we look at life man, because life as
Speaker 3: a young person.
Speaker 1: You don't see thirty. Sometimes you don't see forty.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about when your team and then twenty years old,
Speaker 3: and then and then as you.
Speaker 1: Go through Let's go back to your early years.
Speaker 3: Because you came out of high off of the state
Speaker 3: of Ohio, Okay, and you went to Hampton. How did
Speaker 3: that translate your mind from Ohio to Hampton?
Speaker 4: Well, I think like any youngster who was born in Columbus, Ohio,
Speaker 4: that's all you eat, live and breathe. Ohio State, love
Speaker 4: Ohio State football, love Ohio State basketball.
Speaker 5: And for me, it was.
Speaker 4: Always a goal to want to play basketball at Ohio State,
Speaker 4: you know, going through high school. And I knew that,
Speaker 4: Hey look, you know I'm only six two, so I
Speaker 4: wouldn't getting any taller.
Speaker 5: I had dream of playing basketball at Ohio State.
Speaker 4: Kind of vanished, and then it was like, Okay, where
Speaker 4: else can I go to play? Am I going to
Speaker 4: go to like a Division two school in Ohio?
Speaker 5: You know what am I going to do? And you
Speaker 5: know this is how? This is how the Lord speaks
Speaker 5: to you? Was that?
Speaker 4: So I went to church one Sunday and the guest
Speaker 4: speaker was the chaplain from Hampton and he was talking
Speaker 4: about how Hampton was this and how all of the
Speaker 4: best young black men come out of Hampton University. And
Speaker 4: it was almost like, you know what, maybe I ought
Speaker 4: to just give up this dream of playing basketball and
Speaker 4: just go to then HBCU. And sure enough, I went
Speaker 4: down after service talked to Michael Battle, who eventually became
Speaker 4: the president of Virginia State. And I went down there
Speaker 4: and talked to him and I said, man, Hampton sounds great,
Speaker 4: you know, And he said, you know, I hear you're
Speaker 4: a good basketball player. I hear your grades are good.
Speaker 4: Doc tells me a lot about you. And he said,
Speaker 4: what are your grades? Like, I said, I got a
Speaker 4: three six? He said, you got a three six Sidney
Speaker 4: your transcript. Wow, I'll make sure you get into Hampton.
Speaker 4: And that's what I did, and he did. He got
Speaker 4: me into Hampton, and I just gave up basketball, the
Speaker 4: dream of playing basketball in college and to him, university.
Speaker 3: Now, let letters this was your initial dream. Now you articulate,
Speaker 3: have a nice voce tone, winted. The whole idea of
Speaker 3: being in television from from in front of the camera
Speaker 3: site start creeping into your mind because it says journalism
Speaker 3: but then all of a sudden, now you're in broadcast.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean for me, I knew what I wann't
Speaker 5: to do when I was five.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know, I was raised primarily by my mother and
Speaker 4: my grandmother, and we lived with my grandmother and she
Speaker 4: was one of those who watched Walter Kronkrite CBS Evening News,
Speaker 4: and so I would sit right next to her and
Speaker 4: that's what we watched every night.
Speaker 5: At six thirty booms, she turned it on and we
Speaker 5: would watch that.
Speaker 4: And as I got older, I would say, like seventh
Speaker 4: eighth grade and you may remember this with Sean kids
Speaker 4: now don't remember, you know, listen they had MTV, you
Speaker 4: know when we were.
Speaker 5: In college and think that. But before that, on Friday nights,
Speaker 5: it was something called Friday Night Video.
Speaker 1: Absolutely do you remember that?
Speaker 4: And so I remember at Friday nights, I will be
Speaker 4: watching Friday Night Videos. But before that came on, my
Speaker 4: grandmother used to always watch the show Nightline and Ted
Speaker 4: Copple was the host of Nightline and I thought he
Speaker 4: had Wow. It was just his voice. It just threw
Speaker 4: me in and the way he interviewed people. He could
Speaker 4: interview people of all races, all religions, and he just
Speaker 4: the way he conducted his interviews. I was enthralled, I
Speaker 4: was captivated, and I was in seventh eighth grade. At
Speaker 4: that point, I knew I wanted to do television. And
Speaker 4: as I got even older, because I loved sports so much,
Speaker 4: I knew I wanted to get into sports broadcast.
Speaker 3: You know when I was talking to Steve. I talked
Speaker 3: to Steve Eismith all the time, and he said that,
Speaker 3: like you, he was watching TV and he was inspired.
Speaker 1: He was inspired by Howard Cosell.
Speaker 3: And now you know, one of the people inspires him today,
Speaker 3: of course is Brian Gumbele. From an African Americans perspective,
Speaker 3: who did you have as an inspiration?
Speaker 5: So again from watching sports all the time, one of.
Speaker 4: The guys who I loved was IRV Cross because I
Speaker 4: would oh, yes, CBS, CBS man football right before that,
Speaker 4: you know, the football games on.
Speaker 5: So as a kid, that's who I saw. I thought
Speaker 5: IRV Cross, uh.
Speaker 4: Was the guy, And and then it became James Brown
Speaker 4: for me. You know, James Brown was a guy who
Speaker 4: I just I just loved his professionalism, the way he
Speaker 4: conducted himself, the way he used his words, his vocabulary.
Speaker 5: I mean, and and for him and me and him
Speaker 5: have become great friends.
Speaker 4: He's becoenna. He's been a great mentor for me. I
Speaker 4: you text him, call him for any advice. It's you know,
Speaker 4: that's That's the one thing I love about this this
Speaker 4: business is that when you've idolized and looked up to
Speaker 4: someone and then they become a friend, a mentor.
Speaker 5: Uh, there's nothing better. So for me from an African American,
Speaker 5: there there were.
Speaker 4: A couple of people earth cross obviously because I would
Speaker 4: watch sports all time, James Brown, Uh.
Speaker 5: And then on the female side, right, if you remember
Speaker 5: on ABC News Carol Simpson.
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, God, I just I mean it was like
Speaker 4: for me, it was like the first time seeing a
Speaker 4: black woman on network television.
Speaker 5: So those to me, those are.
Speaker 4: Like icons Mount Rushmore type people when it comes to broadcasting.
Speaker 1: That conversation we got to talk about.
Speaker 3: You know you over at Hampton you you know, you
Speaker 3: got all these great fraternities.
Speaker 1: On campus, all right, all of them.
Speaker 3: You know, you know, I'm a I'm a Vega man
Speaker 3: and you're a camp aple side knew Kine Walker.
Speaker 1: What inspired you to go that way? Because it's all good.
Speaker 3: I'm playing with you because because the bottom line about
Speaker 3: black fraternity is about uplift community, you gotta have a
Speaker 3: GPA to get in. And a lot of times people
Speaker 3: forget that because all they hear about is just just
Speaker 3: to step in, and they hear the word party in
Speaker 3: and that is such a low level of why we
Speaker 3: are part of lifetime members of these fraternities.
Speaker 1: What inspired you to become a member of camp aside, well.
Speaker 4: Listen, you know you you're influenced by your environment. My
Speaker 4: older brother was a kappa, my younger brother is a kapa.
Speaker 4: My neighbor growing up was a kappa. Uh, so you know,
Speaker 4: obviously that was really for me. That's what I knew.
Speaker 4: And you know when I went to Hampton if you
Speaker 4: you know, and and for people who know about Hampton University,
Speaker 4: it was run by q's I mean doctor Harvey, big
Speaker 4: time q uh doctor Khalan who was in charge of
Speaker 4: UH punishment and things of that nature. Q. I mean
Speaker 4: all the administration were q. Some of my best friends
Speaker 4: are cused. But for me, all I knew Waskapa Alpha
Speaker 4: said when I got there, Kappas were suspended and uh.
Speaker 4: But there were a few noops on the on the
Speaker 4: yard and they were just great and befriended a couple
Speaker 4: of them. Uh, and I just knew. I mean, for me,
Speaker 4: there was no other way uh to go. It's it's
Speaker 4: almost like Rashaan, you know, the only thing I could
Speaker 4: tell you is now, I don't know what you've been told,
Speaker 4: but the streets of having our purple of gold the
Speaker 4: world appeared to me in a dream, and he said,
Speaker 4: the streets are having are crimson and creams.
Speaker 1: Okay, I ain't gonna go ahead on you. I let
Speaker 1: you just lie.
Speaker 3: Oh oh mag yeah, oh oh mag, god baby.
Speaker 1: Oh oh mad. Somebody trying to sneak in a frat.
Speaker 1: I can't finish it on my podcast direction. But you know,
Speaker 1: my brother, you know it's great man.
Speaker 3: You know when we think about our lives and our youth,
Speaker 3: because that's that's the part of our life.
Speaker 1: Where we feel invincible.
Speaker 3: You know, we just see the future, the possibilities, and
Speaker 3: sometimes you can't see the possibility because it's so far away.
Speaker 1: And when you still you start seeing people thirty and forty,
Speaker 1: you can't even imagine that.
Speaker 3: Brian, So when did this start coming into play, that
Speaker 3: this career it was a possibility for you?
Speaker 4: Well, you know when I when I was in high school,
Speaker 4: you know, obviously playing sports and doing a lot of things.
Speaker 4: The principal at my high school, you know, really he
Speaker 4: took a liking to me, and he always said, hey,
Speaker 4: look I need.
Speaker 5: You in a leadership role.
Speaker 4: And I went to a school called Westernville North High
Speaker 4: School in Westernville, Ohio. It's a suburb of Columbus, and uh,
Speaker 4: he said, you know, I need you to take a
Speaker 4: leadership role. Especially in my junior senior year. One of
Speaker 4: the things we did was we produced a video for
Speaker 4: our school, and he went, I had I got to
Speaker 4: help like narrate it and do that.
Speaker 5: I was out kind of out front when they shot it.
Speaker 4: So I did those kinds of things, and he gave
Speaker 4: me an internship. I got into an internship program that
Speaker 4: was for high school and it was about placing you
Speaker 4: in a professional setting in a obviously in a job
Speaker 4: that you're interested in. So I wanted to be sports,
Speaker 4: a sports anchor, and they placed me with the sports
Speaker 4: anchor at NBC. And so I would go there every
Speaker 4: weekend and I was like an intern man. I did
Speaker 4: whatever he wanted me to do, and I did that
Speaker 4: basically my senior year. When I wasn't in season playing basketball,
Speaker 4: I would go, and then when it was over, I
Speaker 4: still went and I would just go and hang out
Speaker 4: with Doug.
Speaker 5: I remember the sports taker guy named Douglas Cells.
Speaker 4: And I would just go there and still go and
Speaker 4: help out even when the internship was over. When I
Speaker 4: was in college, when I would come home from Hampton,
Speaker 4: I would still go up to the station and go
Speaker 4: help him out.
Speaker 5: And I just knew this was what I want to do.
Speaker 5: And I was at Hampton, I mean.
Speaker 4: You know, I got the opportunity to call football game,
Speaker 4: I called minor league baseball game, all kinds of stuff,
Speaker 4: and I just knew that this was going to be
Speaker 4: my calling. And I was lucky enough that when I
Speaker 4: graduated from Hampton, my first job was in radio. I
Speaker 4: got a job back in Columbus, Ohio at the news
Speaker 4: radio station. And this is what you know, kids, they
Speaker 4: wanted like this these days. But my first job, man
Speaker 4: was that uh news radio station. I worked from midnight
Speaker 4: to eight and at the top of the hour, I
Speaker 4: came on and I delivered the newscast for five minutes, right,
Speaker 4: And that's what I did man, from midnight to eight o'clock.
Speaker 5: In the morning.
Speaker 4: And I worked that job chund for like a year
Speaker 4: and a half and and and then uh, they they
Speaker 4: promoted me and they said, Okay, what we're gonna do
Speaker 4: is now you're gonna, uh, you're gonna come in and
Speaker 4: they said, we're gonna shave your hours where you can
Speaker 4: work just just halfway.
Speaker 5: You'll work from uh six o'clock to ten o'clock.
Speaker 4: You're gonna come in and do do the newscast top
Speaker 4: of the hour, and then we're gonna have you work
Speaker 4: another four hours from like it was from four to eight.
Speaker 4: You're gonna we're gonna send you out and report. And
Speaker 4: then I had to like cover the school board, city hall,
Speaker 4: all kinds of stuff like that. I was like, I
Speaker 4: can't do sports, and they were like, nah, I and
Speaker 4: so but I did it. And the crazy thing was,
Speaker 4: and you know this all of like the news directors
Speaker 4: in town, you know, their radios were set to that
Speaker 4: news radio stage. That's what they got up to, and
Speaker 4: so they would hear my voice at the top of
Speaker 4: the hour. And the news director at the ABC station,
Speaker 4: he thought I was a white guy, right, and he
Speaker 4: ended up calling me and right out of the state,
Speaker 4: said hey, look, I'd like to meet you for dinner.
Speaker 5: I ended up.
Speaker 4: I'm twenty three, twenty four years old. I ended up
Speaker 4: meeting this guy at Chili's. I'll never forget it in
Speaker 4: Columbus for dinner one night and I pulled in heat
Speaker 4: and the look on his face and I never did it.
Speaker 5: Mike Kevio, nice guy.
Speaker 4: He just said, you certainly don't look the way he
Speaker 4: told me.
Speaker 5: That's what he said. You certainly don't look the way
Speaker 5: you sound. I thought you were much older.
Speaker 4: And quite and you gotta admit you gotta remember see,
Speaker 4: people don't realize this too.
Speaker 5: We're shon. This was in the nineties. People can they talked.
Speaker 5: We talked much different in the nine gus than we
Speaker 5: talked today.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And he said that you look you look much different,
Speaker 4: and he goes, I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 5: You're you're darker than.
Speaker 4: I thought you were light and h That's how I
Speaker 4: got my first job in Tellis. He offered me a
Speaker 4: news reporter job.
Speaker 3: You know, you know, I know we always said that,
Speaker 3: you know, the kids that they don't want to work hard, well,
Speaker 3: in some way they don't have to with the way
Speaker 3: social media allows them to grow these brands and jump
Speaker 3: out on TikTok and jump out on Instagram and especially YouTube.
Speaker 3: They're millionaires and thousandaires just tied to their subscriber base
Speaker 3: as influencers. It's really incredible how that game has changed
Speaker 3: and allow people I call them innovators. I don't I
Speaker 3: don't really jump down too hard on because if I
Speaker 3: had that technology, no telling what I would be doing.
Speaker 3: Because I'm using technology now to be able to produce
Speaker 3: this and feel like I'm in a studio and it's
Speaker 3: really just in my office building. So technology allows us
Speaker 3: to like bridge some gaps.
Speaker 1: But as you as you.
Speaker 3: Go through these journeys, you know you and I share
Speaker 3: a story. When I say share a story, it's tied
Speaker 3: to cancer, and I just want to share a little
Speaker 3: bit of my story because I want to hear your
Speaker 3: entire story because it's important. And one of the reasons
Speaker 3: I brought you on the show, Brian, not the fact
Speaker 3: that you are successful. And I feel that everybody wants
Speaker 3: to be And I say everybody because everybodys sitting at
Speaker 3: home want to be a play by play who watching
Speaker 3: watching football, baseball, basketball, soccer, They want to do play
Speaker 3: by play. But when I was diagnosed with tyrod cancer
Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen. I can remember, just like today, when
Speaker 3: they said the word cancer.
Speaker 1: You know, I heard.
Speaker 3: It, and then they said something that we can. Then
Speaker 3: they just use the word treaty. We can, probably we can.
Speaker 3: We called it early, sir, we could treat it. But
Speaker 3: I just stayed on the word cancer because all I
Speaker 3: all I all I heard was Wow, who survives cancer?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: How can I live? How could I tell my family?
Speaker 3: How can I go public with this and tell people
Speaker 3: that I work with? How would that affect how they
Speaker 3: look at me? It really started resonating with me in
Speaker 3: such a powerful way that it scared me.
Speaker 1: And it also allowed me to put.
Speaker 3: My life in perspective because I didn't tell my wife
Speaker 3: immediately because I wanted to find out where I was
Speaker 3: at mentally.
Speaker 1: And when I.
Speaker 3: Looked at it, it's all about where you at in life.
Speaker 3: And at that point, and I still today, I felt
Speaker 3: that I was good if it was going to go
Speaker 3: that way. I was good because I'd accomplished the things
Speaker 3: that I've always wanted to do in my life.
Speaker 1: I felt I was a good person.
Speaker 3: I felt I had enabled other people to be successful
Speaker 3: tied to the talents that God gave me, and I
Speaker 3: was cool with it, but it still was a moment
Speaker 3: in my life where time did stand still.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I tell you, Rachelle, I don't know if you
Speaker 4: could see my arm and that hair is standing up,
Speaker 4: because it's almost like everything you said happened to me,
Speaker 4: because you know it look like you.
Speaker 5: It was basically ten years ago.
Speaker 4: Ten years ago in August was when I got diagnosed
Speaker 4: with prostate cancer. Like even like today, I feel like
Speaker 4: I'm in the best shape of my life. Even then,
Speaker 4: I was a forty two year old man, strong this
Speaker 4: and that, doing martial arts, boxing, playing who doing all
Speaker 4: kinds of crazy. But the one thing about it was
Speaker 4: I'm probably the only person in my family who goes
Speaker 4: to the doctor and gets an annual checkup every year.
Speaker 5: Religious the only person in my family who would do that.
Speaker 4: And just went to my regular checkup and the doctor
Speaker 4: was telling me like, hey, man, you know if we
Speaker 4: need to do your PSA, you know, because you're forty.
Speaker 5: Now, and da da da da da.
Speaker 4: And at the time, I was like, what's the PSA
Speaker 4: for proste I didn't even know what my prostate was.
Speaker 5: I know what my prostate did and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: for what.
Speaker 4: And they were like, yeah, well, you know it's something
Speaker 4: that is affecting men of color and you should, you know,
Speaker 4: we should, you know, take this. It's just a blood test.
Speaker 4: And then I've got to do a digital rector exam.
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, all I thought was that
Speaker 4: movie Flesh. I don't know about this doctor right, And
Speaker 4: it was that kind of that stigma, like I don't know,
Speaker 4: and he was like, look, we need to do it.
Speaker 4: And we did it. And just to be to be
Speaker 4: full full disclosure this, I really got it. When I
Speaker 4: was forty we did it, and in any the following
Speaker 4: year when I went to my physical, he wanted to
Speaker 4: do it again to give me the PSA one I
Speaker 4: was giving my face and I was like.
Speaker 5: Look, we did that last year.
Speaker 4: The results came back, I was good, and we ain't
Speaker 4: got to do that and we blew it off. And
Speaker 4: then when I was forty two went to back and
Speaker 4: get my physical, He's like.
Speaker 5: Oh, let's do your PSA. I was like, ah, we
Speaker 5: did it last year. I wouldn't again, stigma. I wouldn't
Speaker 5: have him trying to stick his finger up. I was
Speaker 5: like that absolutely not down with that, and so he
Speaker 5: was like, no, I.
Speaker 4: Think we need to do it because we didn't do
Speaker 4: it last year.
Speaker 5: You didn't want to do it. And luckily, you know what,
Speaker 5: we did it.
Speaker 4: And when he gave me the digital rectord exam, he
Speaker 4: felt the bump on my prostat and he said, look,
Speaker 4: when the results come back, if they're above a four,
Speaker 4: then you know we got to talk. If not, then
Speaker 4: you know, maybe it's just a calcium deposit or something.
Speaker 4: But I'm a little worried about that bump. Results did
Speaker 4: come back and they were a five point four. Wow,
Speaker 4: And in my mind I was trying to justify it.
Speaker 4: So I was like, oh, that's not that high. Over
Speaker 4: a four, maybe it's pretty good.
Speaker 5: You know. I just put the results away and didn't
Speaker 5: even think about it.
Speaker 4: And then maybe two weeks later I ended up calling him,
Speaker 4: left him a voicemail and he was like, yeah, it
Speaker 4: means we need to you know, you need to come
Speaker 4: back in and we need to do another one. Did
Speaker 4: another PSA test, bump was still there, results were still high,
Speaker 4: and then we had the biopsy, and at this time
Speaker 4: he was kind of like you. He was like, look,
Speaker 4: we're not gonna say don't say nothing to your family,
Speaker 4: don't say nothing to nobody, because I think we ought
Speaker 4: to know what it is before we go forward, and
Speaker 4: we don't want to scare anybody because it really could
Speaker 4: just be a spike, It could be a calcium deposit.
Speaker 5: And so I was not saying to anybody. Man. And
Speaker 5: I had that biopsy, man, and you know that, as
Speaker 5: you know, it was horrible and uh.
Speaker 4: And I just remember driving into work into the city
Speaker 4: in New York City one time and I looked on
Speaker 4: my phone and it was two one two, so I
Speaker 4: knew it was the doctor. And I called and I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, yeah, I'm about to go into the work,
Speaker 4: into the job right now.
Speaker 5: You can just give me the results. And he was like, nah,
Speaker 5: I think you ought to come to the office. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And at that point.
Speaker 1: Which was basically was giving you the results. Yes.
Speaker 4: I made a five block walk to his office, and
Speaker 4: I felt like that movie Dead Man walking because I
Speaker 4: knew something was going down and it was kind of
Speaker 4: like you. As soon as I walked in the office,
Speaker 4: the assistant was like, Brian Custer's.
Speaker 5: Here, He's ready for you. And I walked right into
Speaker 5: his office.
Speaker 4: He was sitting there and I'll never forget every time
Speaker 4: he said, listen, man, there's there's never any way to
Speaker 4: tell you this. You know, you got cancer. It's aggressive,
Speaker 4: it's looking around, and he said, I gotta be honest,
Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta find somebody, a specialist and get
Speaker 4: you into surgery.
Speaker 5: Like now, he said.
Speaker 4: And at that time, all I saw when he all
Speaker 4: I saw, all I heard was cancer.
Speaker 3: How did you dance that moment of being confident comfortable
Speaker 3: to talk about that?
Speaker 4: And so here's here's the thing again, I'm going back
Speaker 4: to what you is. This is in twenty thirteen, so
Speaker 4: the times now again are a little bit different. My
Speaker 4: whole aspect at that point was I don't want nobody
Speaker 4: to know.
Speaker 5: First of all, I was like many other guys. I'm like,
Speaker 5: I'm forty two. I got prosta. This is an old
Speaker 5: man's disease.
Speaker 4: All I used to hear about was your grandfather and
Speaker 4: this and that got prostate cancer, not a forty two
Speaker 4: year old man.
Speaker 5: And I'm not trying to.
Speaker 4: Tell anybody this and tell anybody I got cancer because
Speaker 4: now people don't think I'm gonna be dead. And I
Speaker 4: remember the doc was like, you know, look, we'll keep
Speaker 4: it to ourselves, you're gonna we're gonna, we're gonna get
Speaker 4: you into surgery and you're gonna be okay. And so
Speaker 4: I remember going to the network and I had to
Speaker 4: talk to our president. Our president. Our president was in
Speaker 4: the room, the vice president of the network was in
Speaker 4: the room, and so was the PR guy. I told
Speaker 4: him what I had. You know, obviously I was very emotional.
Speaker 4: They were like, look, we're gonna keep it quiet. We're
Speaker 4: just gonna say that you're going off on vacation and
Speaker 4: then you know, we'll address it. We will address it
Speaker 4: after you have surgery and we know everything is okay
Speaker 4: at that point, then we'll let people know. But until
Speaker 4: that time, Brian, what do you want to do? And
Speaker 4: I said, well, I'm gonna keep working and I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna say anything. And they were like, look, we're not
Speaker 4: gonna say And I didn't say anything to anybody until
Speaker 4: the day I had surgery. Was the day I made
Speaker 4: it public that I had prost tact cancer. And the
Speaker 4: only reason why was because my doctor he referred to
Speaker 4: a specialist who is the guy named David Somati here
Speaker 4: in New York who does who does surgeries on prostact
Speaker 4: can great urologists. And I remember he's saying, I'm the best, Brian,
Speaker 4: You're gonna be great. I know it's aggressive, but we're
Speaker 4: gonna go in there. We're gonna get your prostate and
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take care of you. And he said, I'm
Speaker 4: only going to ask one thing of you, and he said,
Speaker 4: I need you to use your platform to help men
Speaker 4: of color about this disease, because he says it is
Speaker 4: ravaging your men of color and they need somebody to face,
Speaker 4: a young face like you to see that look, it's okay,
Speaker 4: I have it too, and it's all right, it's not
Speaker 4: don't be shameful about it and be honest about it, Brian.
Speaker 4: He goes, that's the only thing I'm going to ask
Speaker 4: of you, and at that point I was like, doctor,
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to tell nobody. He said, that's the
Speaker 4: only thing I can ask. And after discussing it with
Speaker 4: my family and everything, I said, okay, you know, obviously
Speaker 4: I have it for a reason, and God put me.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know, And it's important.
Speaker 3: He said that because of the fact that when I
Speaker 3: talk sometimes a cancer I always tell people I know
Speaker 3: I don't look like a cancer survivor because people stereotype
Speaker 3: of the cancer survivor look like gray hair, come poorly
Speaker 3: out of shape, you know, down on they love you, know,
Speaker 3: they kind of like stigmatize them the look a certain way,
Speaker 3: so it can't ever be me, when it will definitely
Speaker 3: be you because of the possibility of your lack of knowledge,
Speaker 3: lack of education, lack of resistance, like you resisted of
Speaker 3: years of getting these checkups and and and it only
Speaker 3: just got words to think about cancer. Cancer don't go
Speaker 3: away without help. It's gonna just keep winning until you
Speaker 3: step in and realize that you have to be honest
Speaker 3: with your body. Listen to your body, because your body
Speaker 3: is telling you, is talking to you, is telling you
Speaker 3: these things are not comfortable, that it's not right. And
Speaker 3: when you ignore because of manhood, you ignoring because of rumors,
Speaker 3: You're ignoring because of stereotypes, that can cost you and
Speaker 3: your family and your friends. A great person gets who
Speaker 3: that great person is you, So it's good to remember that.
Speaker 5: Yep, absolutely, I.
Speaker 1: Know you know.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just tell you this now. You know we're
Speaker 3: about twenty six minutes. Man, we've been talking. But before
Speaker 3: we go, man, I know you covered this fight this weekend.
Speaker 3: I'll call it a fight, Brian. But uh, it was
Speaker 3: going good. They were looking good, Tattoo Sweaton. Then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, my man, my man came right under
Speaker 3: his ribs and my man back to the collar and squatted.
Speaker 4: Anybody knows who's fought you take a shot to the liver,
Speaker 4: it's a rat.
Speaker 5: And I think for for Ryan Garcia, that liver shot
Speaker 5: had a lot to do with it.
Speaker 4: And too, you know, look he looked down, and I
Speaker 4: think Tank even said it. He said when he took
Speaker 4: that shot and he took that knee, he said, he
Speaker 4: looked up. He saw Tank, Sir said, and he told
Speaker 4: him he said, he looked at it. His said, in
Speaker 4: other words.
Speaker 5: Don't get up.
Speaker 4: If you get up, I'm gonna really put these hands
Speaker 4: on you.
Speaker 5: And Ryan's a good looking young man. I think that
Speaker 5: was a bit this decision too.
Speaker 1: Hey, good good kid.
Speaker 4: And I'm hurting this dude's about to rearrange my faith
Speaker 4: and I'm too.
Speaker 6: Crazy right now to have some damage done to this face.
Speaker 6: So he said, you know what, Nate, not just go
Speaker 6: ahead and get to ten. Yeah, all right, now I
Speaker 6: get up and the fight was over. Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you something. I'm a big fan, Brian,
Speaker 6: and thank you. I'm gonna tell you something for us.
Speaker 3: I have this comfortable conversation this journey and it's almost
Speaker 3: thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: It really tells us we have a relationship.
Speaker 3: And I say that to say that anytime you need me,
Speaker 3: anytime you I got something.
Speaker 1: I want to promote or get out there.
Speaker 3: You know, I definitely want to be a sponsor for you,
Speaker 3: a big brother to you because I am older than
Speaker 3: you and I've done this all my life and again, man,
Speaker 3: and even more, a more closer relationship like my boy
Speaker 3: Steven as my boy. You know, that's my little brother.
Speaker 3: It's my best friend. And so now I'm gonna throw you.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna lump you in there too, okay, Brian.
Speaker 4: Why I love that because I've been I've been such
Speaker 4: a fan of everything you do.
Speaker 5: When you look at look, I think people underestimate your
Speaker 5: resume and what you had done.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're a freaking legend dude in this business. Man,
Speaker 4: and listen, I love working alongside with Steven. I mean,
Speaker 4: Stephen has just done great things at the network. You're know,
Speaker 4: with the face, you're at you're at the worldwide leader
Speaker 4: and we got a black man h black man HBCU
Speaker 4: and that to me, that's what I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Brian. We're gonna talk to my brother.