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Speaker 1: life will present to you. My next guest is Kevin Blood,
Speaker 1: so we go all the way back to the Hoodie
Speaker 1: Awards in Los Angeles, California, before he opened Blood Cells
Speaker 1: Ball in Q on Lobrea, which I've been too many
Speaker 1: times in Los Angeles. Kevin's is a chef, television personality
Speaker 1: and two times Steve Harvey Hoodie Award winner. In two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight he opened Blood Souls by b b
Speaker 1: Q and it's since grown into an international empire. Hear
Speaker 1: me when I said international from Compton to international with
Speaker 1: Blood Souls, Ball and Q, which I talked about earlier.
Speaker 1: It is right there on Librea, right there, man, you
Speaker 1: got valet parking, everything, great food. Every time I go there, man,
Speaker 1: it's just a beautiful, uh display of food, people in
Speaker 1: their cross sectional people. Uh. Concession stand at the l
Speaker 1: A f C Soccer Stadium, a location in Proud Bird
Speaker 1: right there at l A been there many times, catering
Speaker 1: and a sprawling restaurant and ball called sant Antone by
Speaker 1: Blood so BBQ in the crowd Casino and Melbourne him meant,
Speaker 1: y'all your born Australia. That's where the International Park comes
Speaker 1: from the legend of Blood. So BBQ begins, of course
Speaker 1: the counter of Texas. That's right south of Dallas, Texas.
Speaker 1: The reason I know. I'm from Houston, Texas, so I
Speaker 1: passed through Colt Towner many times. I get up to Dallas.
Speaker 1: Come on now where the Blood Show family has been
Speaker 1: perfecting the craft of slow, slow smoked meats for five generations.
Speaker 1: But while his family roots for Lady in Texas, Kevin
Speaker 1: himself was born and raised in Compton, California. That's where
Speaker 1: I met him. Now he is a television star. Like
Speaker 1: I said earlier, he big time television star, sitting up.
Speaker 1: That man got make up in anything land on. You
Speaker 1: can catch him judging on Netflix the American Barbecue Showdown.
Speaker 1: I've seen every episode. I'll also seen him on the
Speaker 1: Food Chanleler Cookie Network. I've seen him on the bar Rescue.
Speaker 1: I've seen this brother everywhere. Please working the money making conversations.
Speaker 1: I want to call him a dear friend and a
Speaker 1: guy I feel so blessed to talk to right now
Speaker 1: on my show today, my man and Kevin Blood too.
Speaker 1: How you doing, sir man? I am good. After that
Speaker 1: in the duct interview over, I'm good smiling. Well, I
Speaker 1: had to because I see you post let on the
Speaker 1: on the on social media. You're gonna be talking to
Speaker 1: the legend on Thursday. That's my Let me just let me.
Speaker 1: Let me make it perfectly clear. I would not be
Speaker 1: doing probably none of this extra stuff if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for winning that first Hoodie award. Man, I would never
Speaker 1: forget that. I remember talking to you backstage was so
Speaker 1: cool and it was like I always knew you and
Speaker 1: Steed too, but with me and you holler backstage and man,
Speaker 1: you came and gave me the hug. I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: have I manhill be false? Just say, man and I
Speaker 1: have like and I mean, you told me something that
Speaker 1: night and I don't know if you remember, but you
Speaker 1: said you're gonna be all right. I always look out
Speaker 1: for your folks. You remember you told me that absolutely
Speaker 1: absolutely believe that that man. You know, And I just
Speaker 1: want to say, Man, I appreciate you. I appreciate everything
Speaker 1: you guys have done for me. Man, and I really
Speaker 1: really missed the Hoodie Awards. I really do because win
Speaker 1: a little it was so much fun. Man. How y'all
Speaker 1: take normal folks from the neighborhood and made us feel
Speaker 1: incredible every time for those three and Podas Man, I
Speaker 1: just always wanted to thank you guys. Man. It was
Speaker 1: an incredible time. It was an incredible ride. And even
Speaker 1: because I think I went to like sixth straight or
Speaker 1: absolutely remember we had those little those little meeting greets
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Remember, yeah, man, the little the
Speaker 1: great room in there, because don't forget Kevin, get the
Speaker 1: red carpet and to get my first one for what
Speaker 1: was Sally Richard and uh Bernie mack and he was
Speaker 1: not Bernie mack up George Wallace clowning for thirty minutes
Speaker 1: and and my pants falling down and everything and memories, man,
Speaker 1: I chaired the Shine real though. You know some I
Speaker 1: have the video of of your winn I don't know
Speaker 1: if you have that. I'm gonna send it to you.
Speaker 1: Please don't show that, man, Please gona send it to you.
Speaker 1: I got them all, my got that time history of
Speaker 1: the hoodia Wars slash Neighborhood of Wars. I got it.
Speaker 1: But but you know something Kevin is is is the
Speaker 1: thing about it is that that's what it was all about.
Speaker 1: It's always been about the people. It's always recognizing the
Speaker 1: regular people, because you know, we get so we get
Speaker 1: become like unknown we can we be get burdened, like
Speaker 1: we're not even delivering a contributing And that's why I
Speaker 1: was telling you about to take care of your people.
Speaker 1: Because what we didn't know, you know, Steve Harry Now
Speaker 1: didn't know at the time, was that well, you know,
Speaker 1: I started this in Houston, Texas in nineteen eighties seven,
Speaker 1: just as I was a sidekick on the radio show.
Speaker 1: And then what happened when Steve came we got the
Speaker 1: radio gig in l A. He said, Rill, Sean, did
Speaker 1: you should do that goodie war thing? I think I
Speaker 1: have told be big. You know, I would never as
Speaker 1: a as an individual, I could never just go to
Speaker 1: the radio stage. But Steve was big enough to say,
Speaker 1: let's do this, let's do that. I gotta give credit
Speaker 1: with credits do and they weren't know and they sold it,
Speaker 1: and we sold the idea. We went to Vegas several
Speaker 1: times with the Forum several times, and then we went
Speaker 1: back to Vegas and so it was what was when
Speaker 1: you when you talk about it, you know, because what
Speaker 1: I didn't see coming was how it affected the business.
Speaker 1: How enabled you can talk about how the Hood Awards
Speaker 1: affected you guys with all that promotion, Steve holling it
Speaker 1: out on them. Here's the nominees, here's the nominees. Here's
Speaker 1: the top four. Here's the top four. Talk about that,
Speaker 1: I mean, the pride that it. I mean, it's like
Speaker 1: people still to this day just talking about when it
Speaker 1: was time to vote, the first vote and the second vote,
Speaker 1: and and and how genius it was the way y'all
Speaker 1: put that together that had the first vote in the
Speaker 1: second vote. But the pride of bringing people together and
Speaker 1: people just wanted to be part of that, and then
Speaker 1: when you win and and bringing home. Man, it's like
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood, it's like, you know, winning the national championship.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody want to come, and so many people
Speaker 1: would wait to hear if you want. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: we had customers cry when we lost, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And uh, it's that I mean because like
Speaker 1: I said, you don't have that much Like I said,
Speaker 1: you you don't have that many shows that do that. Especially,
Speaker 1: I mean, we barely got enough for real celebrities that
Speaker 1: they give problems to, so to have you know, the
Speaker 1: normal hard work and people trying to run their businesses
Speaker 1: and all that doing their thing to getting a ward
Speaker 1: and and and like I said, getting the award from
Speaker 1: Sally Sally Richards and and and George Wallace and and
Speaker 1: the people I met backstage and just the whole thing. Man,
Speaker 1: It's incredible, man, I mean, it was a it was
Speaker 1: a real beautiful time man. And it's just the pride
Speaker 1: that it brings. And then the customers that you get.
Speaker 1: If you notice everything that I do, every show that
Speaker 1: I say that I do, they say about winning the
Speaker 1: Hoodie Award, no matter what they always say in Canada,
Speaker 1: Australia and whatever. Like the lady told the body, I said,
Speaker 1: it's the hoodie you know all over always get a
Speaker 1: problem man, Because like I said, that was just a
Speaker 1: real exciting time, man. Was it was real fun, you know.
Speaker 1: And and and I thank you, you know, because of
Speaker 1: the fact that the whole idea man, was to celebrate
Speaker 1: the real stars of the community. That was the basis
Speaker 1: of the video Awards in the Neighborhood a Wars. Because
Speaker 1: of the fact that and my whole thought was that, Okay,
Speaker 1: instead of have the celebrities being recognized for un let's
Speaker 1: use the celebrities as almost like props to get people there,
Speaker 1: because you know, if we said that we were just
Speaker 1: gonna be doing best bybecue best high school, would nobody
Speaker 1: show up. But you got Steven Holt, you got the salary,
Speaker 1: just just Sali Richardson's on stage, you got the George
Speaker 1: Wallace stage, you got Scoop Dog Ice Q showed up
Speaker 1: one year, Magic Jonawson showed up. When you get all
Speaker 1: these people, people going whoa, whoa, what's going on here?
Speaker 1: What's going on here? And then it allows us to
Speaker 1: be back like like in the green like before the
Speaker 1: Wars and in the green room with him, you know,
Speaker 1: having cocktails, but just like and everybody interacting. Man, it
Speaker 1: was incredible. And like I said to even the walker
Speaker 1: to the not just the red carpet, when we walked
Speaker 1: through the casino or whatever, going inside getting ready to
Speaker 1: call in and walking inside that arena, man, that was like.
Speaker 1: That was that was cool. That was that was a major.
Speaker 1: That was that was majing because you know the thing
Speaker 1: about it I would not share, No, I was people
Speaker 1: come in and go, man, this is produced better than
Speaker 1: the Emmies, Dude, this is better than it because I
Speaker 1: because I had to do that the worst thing in
Speaker 1: the world, man, is for us as black people, you know,
Speaker 1: to say you're gonna do something good for us and
Speaker 1: then do it half. I didn't do it, slopper, And
Speaker 1: that's what that was my greatest love, man, because to
Speaker 1: see the look on y'all faces because y'all didn't believe it. Okay,
Speaker 1: this was always chipped me out, man. Was those acceptance species.
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for that, Kevin. So I wasn't ready
Speaker 1: for because I I told Steve Irris, look, man, I
Speaker 1: got the fact we're gonna nominate them. I got the
Speaker 1: fact we're gonna vote. Vote. I said, I don't know
Speaker 1: what they're gonna say when they get up there. Man.
Speaker 1: Y'all got up there, man, and it was like if
Speaker 1: they brought me to tears many times, man, because I
Speaker 1: didn't realize the impact of a community award. That's what
Speaker 1: it was. It was a community award and how it
Speaker 1: affected and you know what I because I always like,
Speaker 1: you know, because I was reading the guy Steve is
Speaker 1: still the start, you know, way back there. But I
Speaker 1: could go to a restaurant and I went by your
Speaker 1: place one time back in the hood. And then when
Speaker 1: and then and then I found out my girl Candy,
Speaker 1: who should do my backstage celebrity streaming? She said, Kevin
Speaker 1: is on Libraya. I said, he got a spot on Libra.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know Kevin. I didn't even know you
Speaker 1: had that. She was so candy, so cool after my
Speaker 1: baby sister. Now, man, she is so cool, always so professional, man,
Speaker 1: and just and incredible, you know. I mean, your whole
Speaker 1: staff was just like you know, man, I mean, and
Speaker 1: I mean when you guys came out and did the
Speaker 1: video of me, uh, and I was still in compliment, man,
Speaker 1: And I don't even know what you know. Candy, don't
Speaker 1: give no information. You know. I used to find up
Speaker 1: to see that. Boy. You think I'm losing my job
Speaker 1: over you know that? So she said about the video.
Speaker 1: When y'all did the video, she said, well, well, I
Speaker 1: don't want to say she like, but she lies, like,
Speaker 1: oh we do this with all the contestants. People don't
Speaker 1: get on the video. And at the lunch and then
Speaker 1: I was on the luncheon. I don't even know until
Speaker 1: I got did you know. I mean, everything y'all did
Speaker 1: was it was just it was it was for even
Speaker 1: like the waiting like like like in that first time.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm nervous. I'm sweating like a brother
Speaker 1: of clan with the white woman. You know what. I'm
Speaker 1: sweating that nervous. But I said, man, I ain't been
Speaker 1: this nervous since football days. And it was just uh
Speaker 1: and and I'm not even putting too much on it. Man.
Speaker 1: It was other contestants that I met, and then the
Speaker 1: friendships the people that I met from other businesses that
Speaker 1: we are still good friends to this day. Man. That's
Speaker 1: what that's what it's all about. Man. I mean, I
Speaker 1: hear like the morning show sometimes and I get nervous
Speaker 1: because I remember during the time when it's voting time,
Speaker 1: because you know, we are burthen Coast got us about
Speaker 1: a few obvious and they don't already started. But I
Speaker 1: just remember that one year, it was six forty five,
Speaker 1: they was about to go off the air and uh
Speaker 1: and it was just correct. Tommy said he was doing
Speaker 1: the top three or whatever, the top four, and we
Speaker 1: was number three already in time. But Steve said, now
Speaker 1: that's now, that don't make no sense. Bless those number
Speaker 1: three and number brothers in l A. That's right. So listen,
Speaker 1: let me explain to everybody. See what happened was from
Speaker 1: two thousand one to two thousand five, we were l
Speaker 1: A was l A based radio station. Steve Art name
Speaker 1: two three and and Kevin and all everybody was in
Speaker 1: other l A. So in two thousand and five were
Speaker 1: left and went to New York. Were based in New
Speaker 1: York for two years. So for one year we took
Speaker 1: a year off. Two thousand and six, we didn't even
Speaker 1: do it. We didn't even do it, and we're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what we had to do with our
Speaker 1: own career. We were struggling and trying to come up
Speaker 1: after that run. And then two thousand seven we brought
Speaker 1: it back, and so we're freaking me and Steve I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, they in l A and so you know,
Speaker 1: you guys, and like you said, y'all were three hours difference,
Speaker 1: and y'all were voting. Y'all were seriously voting Kevin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had him. We had everybody, every old college people, everywhere,
Speaker 1: everybody we knew, all over the uh United States. We
Speaker 1: had them going. Man. But like I said, and you'd
Speaker 1: be surprised. I mean, people still come and tell me
Speaker 1: how much they missed that. And I missed those weeks
Speaker 1: of the hoodie was and so many people when you win,
Speaker 1: it would go and I remember being, you know, like
Speaker 1: I said, it's it's starting in l A. You did,
Speaker 1: you did, But I remember being and I member, you
Speaker 1: know a couple of times bloss was the only one
Speaker 1: in I mean one time we were the one. My
Speaker 1: first year we wanted and crash shall High wanted and
Speaker 1: after that it got so big it was people don't
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to money making Conversations. I'm your host, Sean McDonald. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, because you're absolutely right, because
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, that's when
Speaker 1: you know it became really national because we started out
Speaker 1: syndicating to all these walking with New York, Chicago, Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: you know, a good Charlotte or Miami, all these different
Speaker 1: market dollars and so it wasn't just l A anymore.
Speaker 1: That's why I steer trip that you guys were able
Speaker 1: to win before it really explode, And when it really explode,
Speaker 1: it was like, wow, this is something that was just
Speaker 1: a just a cool idea that's become worldwide. But that
Speaker 1: but that kind of like prepared you for what you're
Speaker 1: doing now. As as as as they said international brand,
Speaker 1: talk about the stuff we were talking about. This is
Speaker 1: we talked about coming out of Comptom. You know, open
Speaker 1: up your shop. You got this beautiful restaurant. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just tell you about the food. Okay, and uh blood
Speaker 1: so ball and cute ball and Q that's on Labraya.
Speaker 1: I swear to you guys, every time I go to
Speaker 1: l A. You know, the COVID has kept me out,
Speaker 1: but I will go there. And you know, I'm tell
Speaker 1: you I'm gon typing by Candy Candy Candy. She goes
Speaker 1: by Kendy Marina because I represent her as an actress
Speaker 1: and and uh talk and producer. She took me at
Speaker 1: the first time, she said, and then she said, Kevin
Speaker 1: said he got you on this with Shan. I said,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't like that. I don't like that,
Speaker 1: and said I don't like ahead and so and so. So.
Speaker 1: You know, every time I go in there, I don't
Speaker 1: tell nobody. I don't go I've taken the air Force
Speaker 1: in there. Air force in there because I had a
Speaker 1: big contract the Air Force. And then I was doing
Speaker 1: a base like two hours away and uh and in
Speaker 1: the month of March, two hours away, and I told him,
Speaker 1: I said, I want you all to go to l
Speaker 1: A and Or and get and pick up this barbecue run.
Speaker 1: They said, Rushan really Asa yes, blood so or libreya.
Speaker 1: I said, the Colin Green's gonna kill you. Then we
Speaker 1: mess you up. Now, I said, Colin Queen's gonna mess
Speaker 1: you up. And they said when they two hours down
Speaker 1: two hours back, was nobody disappointed. They went, Wow, let's
Speaker 1: see why you went. That's how powerful I believe in
Speaker 1: your brand. That's how good your brand is. Tell everybody
Speaker 1: about the menu that you have, the type of food
Speaker 1: that you serve on your menu. Kevin, like I always
Speaker 1: say that we do it right, low and slow, like
Speaker 1: a six vote. You know what I'm saying. Take that
Speaker 1: time to brisket is fifteen hours. The ribs it's four
Speaker 1: to five hours. You know, we we You know, I'm
Speaker 1: a firm believer. It's ain't broke, don't don't fix it.
Speaker 1: You know, I still do it the way Willie May
Speaker 1: feels you should do it. When I was coming up
Speaker 1: spend my summers and of course in Canada, you know,
Speaker 1: she would take her time and do it right, you know.
Speaker 1: And I just try to I just try to keep
Speaker 1: that going at every spot that we got, you know.
Speaker 1: Um and like I said, just knowing incredible people like
Speaker 1: you and and and and and it's so funny you
Speaker 1: bring up because I had a discussion about that with
Speaker 1: a younger guy who just opened up a spot, and
Speaker 1: he was saying, you know, say, you know, uh, sometimes
Speaker 1: celebrities come in and and uh this and that this
Speaker 1: and that said, let me just tell you one thing.
Speaker 1: I don't care who they are, whatever, whatever, you give
Speaker 1: them that option, because celebrities are different. Some of them
Speaker 1: are just like you, who's like I want to pay
Speaker 1: Some of them don't, you know, but you being you
Speaker 1: need you need them more than they need you. And
Speaker 1: like on any field, you got cool people and you
Speaker 1: got uh, you know, people who are tripping or whatever whatever.
Speaker 1: But that's on you to understand that. But a celebrity
Speaker 1: coming in there, it's gonna look out for your business.
Speaker 1: But you have to respect just like they respect your
Speaker 1: work as a chef and they come to your spot,
Speaker 1: you have to respect they work. Like these people don't
Speaker 1: want to deal with people sometimes, but they take the
Speaker 1: time to come come to you and come to your spot,
Speaker 1: and sometimes us as business owners have to really quick
Speaker 1: speaking on people's pocket books and all that one tweet
Speaker 1: or some of the like when you talk about free
Speaker 1: advertisement or some of the stuff that you do. I
Speaker 1: can never pay for that because I posted every time
Speaker 1: I posted a couple of last months and I hadn't
Speaker 1: even been there, and I act like I was there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And That's what I'm saying. But I can't. And how
Speaker 1: I respect that, And I love that so much. And
Speaker 1: I try to tell younger brothers and sisters who open up,
Speaker 1: get that mentality. They at the time, they're gonna pay,
Speaker 1: but make sure you give them the respect that they deserve,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, we got all huge celebrities coming
Speaker 1: there and do the same thing with all of them,
Speaker 1: all of them. You know, I'm not gonna drop no names,
Speaker 1: but I'm coming about foods. You know. Some of the
Speaker 1: best artists we ever had too, from the Titanic and
Speaker 1: everything come in that spot and they all look out.
Speaker 1: But you better give them, you know, take care of man,
Speaker 1: because these people are gonna do. You need that. It
Speaker 1: wasn't for that and the Hoodie Awards and getting to
Speaker 1: know that. I mean, there was so many celebrities that
Speaker 1: come to the Hoodie Awards that came to the restaurant
Speaker 1: after word, I gotta come see what this is about.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, and that's that's called community. But the thing
Speaker 1: about it, let me just tell you, I'm telling some
Speaker 1: real talk here. Every time I've been I've been there
Speaker 1: over a dozen times. Okay, I brought people with me.
Speaker 1: I went in there by myself and just got the
Speaker 1: vegetable spread. Because when you get the vegetable spread and
Speaker 1: the me, it's just too much. And I'm always traveling
Speaker 1: and I don't really I'm in a hotel, so I
Speaker 1: can't do it to go okay, And so so sometimes
Speaker 1: I come in there and give me some corn bread
Speaker 1: and then I give me the the you know, some
Speaker 1: colar greens, some beans, and and so I just break
Speaker 1: it up like that. Or sometimes you come in and
Speaker 1: get me a sandwich. And but every time I go
Speaker 1: in there, the service is always on point. Kevin. The
Speaker 1: meal looks exactly the same of quality separation, I mean, picture,
Speaker 1: I take pictures of your food, and then people do
Speaker 1: people go okay, looking like that. I said all the time,
Speaker 1: all the time. I remember when I brought the National
Speaker 1: Guarden there. You know, we was we were standing way
Speaker 1: in Long Beach for for conference. I said, they said,
Speaker 1: it's what we're gonna eat. I said, we're going to
Speaker 1: uh bloodsoe bar and Q it's where it's l A.
Speaker 1: He said, all we on that. I said, yes, We're
Speaker 1: gonna go over there, went up in there. Man, they
Speaker 1: went wow after because because the beauty about the beat,
Speaker 1: the thing about coming to this place, like when you
Speaker 1: get your meal, you get that double meat, triple mea
Speaker 1: the order. Because I'm a kind of guy man, people,
Speaker 1: I was saying, man, you're small. You know that food. Hey,
Speaker 1: stay off my plate, Stay off my plate. Stay we
Speaker 1: need we need to. And so what happens when you
Speaker 1: have by five people at the table okay, and all
Speaker 1: that food come to the table. You get attention man,
Speaker 1: because it looks so beautiful because every one of the
Speaker 1: plates is look immaculate as far as we won'ta say
Speaker 1: you work is immaculate. Everything's nothing running off the sides,
Speaker 1: nothing too small. The portions are good. That's why I
Speaker 1: just love what I what I eat. That's why when
Speaker 1: I kind of sneak in because Chang. I'm gonna tell Kevin,
Speaker 1: you know, you ain't what problem problem because it's about
Speaker 1: of respect. That's why I started the Hoodie Awards, man,
Speaker 1: because it's about showing love. Man. The fact that you guys,
Speaker 1: you still believe in it just excites me even more. Man.
Speaker 1: And and and the fact that the fact that you
Speaker 1: you're doing so well and you your TV so talk
Speaker 1: about how did the television stuff start for you? And
Speaker 1: how would you how would you were you nervous? Did
Speaker 1: you know? What? Did you? Did you play it off?
Speaker 1: How did it all kick off for you? Kevin? What
Speaker 1: my first one? And it's so funny, my niece, because
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just like, shoot, this is maybe two thousand ten, Kevin.
Speaker 1: I'm uh, I'm still knee deep in the compter location.
Speaker 1: So uh uh. This producer called and said, hey, we
Speaker 1: really want to get you know, Kevin Bluss. He happened
Speaker 1: to be at the restaurant. I didn't know who he was,
Speaker 1: you know, in the restaurant, in the kitchen, we clowned
Speaker 1: in the back, We clowned and cracked jokes in bag.
Speaker 1: So the dude heard me back there clowning. So I've
Speaker 1: never even seen it, didn't know who he was, and uh,
Speaker 1: he kept calling and he kept always he got my
Speaker 1: niece itself on him met his calls and she's like, um,
Speaker 1: this guy wants you for for a TV show. And
Speaker 1: I was like what TV show? Bar Rescue? And I
Speaker 1: never heard of it, you know, never heard of the show.
Speaker 1: And that just and that he kept calling, and then
Speaker 1: one day she said, look, this dude need a video.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to your house and do this video.
Speaker 1: So we we went to the house and started the
Speaker 1: video of just you know, me interviewing and whatever whatever.
Speaker 1: But before the thing was even set up, it's me
Speaker 1: cussing her out and like, God, I ain't got my time.
Speaker 1: She's my name. Who he's throwing souls is and this man.
Speaker 1: So when she sent it, she sent the whole thing
Speaker 1: and John Taffery's seen anything. Now, I gotta have this dude,
Speaker 1: I gotta have the bam bam bam. Uh and I
Speaker 1: got into funny story. I'm gonna keep the shore. But
Speaker 1: for my first episode was in Kansas City. Uh, I
Speaker 1: think it was called Boondocks or whatever. The show never
Speaker 1: was supposed to air because so we saved this boar.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking this dude is. That's when I learned to
Speaker 1: between like, oh southern racist are Southern rocker? This dude
Speaker 1: was a Southern rocket. We we actually are good friends
Speaker 1: now and you know Southern rocket they like rapp and
Speaker 1: country and on thinking he was a racist. But anyway,
Speaker 1: we get into it on the show. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put hands on this food and all on
Speaker 1: the show. But he didn't have no reverse. He didn't
Speaker 1: have no reverse, so he wasn't no pump you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get you
Speaker 1: are you gonna get? But anyway, so it's so crazy,
Speaker 1: So it takes about a couple of months for them
Speaker 1: to do it. So the night before the show was
Speaker 1: supposed to hear, which was Thanksgiving weekend that year, I
Speaker 1: can't think of in that the exact year, he was
Speaker 1: having a party at his bar and got I was
Speaker 1: smoking a big time country singer at his bar and
Speaker 1: they got into it, had a fight to do kind
Speaker 1: of got the best and Chris Chris Shotton killed them
Speaker 1: the night before the show was supposed to so they
Speaker 1: had to pull up the show. But the show accidentally
Speaker 1: aired on the replay later on that night. And it's
Speaker 1: a big old thing and all that, but I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm getting into this food. This food go to. He
Speaker 1: could have went to the back and out of gun
Speaker 1: on me, you know, but that was my first episode,
Speaker 1: my first job. Then John Tapper is like huge in
Speaker 1: my life, like you guys. So, I mean, this dude
Speaker 1: is as far as business and bars and the things
Speaker 1: that he knows. And like I said, the teen episodes later, Man,
Speaker 1: he keeps me busy. In fact, he called me the
Speaker 1: other day to congratulate me because the Netflix show is
Speaker 1: doing so good. Number one after last week is the
Speaker 1: number one unscripted show on Netflix and it's doing well. Man.
Speaker 1: First of all, that we're talking about the American Barbecue showdown, okay,
Speaker 1: and they got some characters on there. And your girl
Speaker 1: up from Mississippi. She's the real deal who cooks the
Speaker 1: whole hall. Did you know ever? Photo show are just
Speaker 1: new off I knew ever. If I knew ever, that
Speaker 1: was our first time meeting. And uh, she's incredible. I
Speaker 1: mean she's a legend. She's a legend, and uh, and
Speaker 1: you'd be surprised some of those Cooks to be first time.
Speaker 1: I mean, they did such a good job of getting
Speaker 1: that cast together. I mean, we're hoping for a season two,
Speaker 1: but you've got some of the producers might not even
Speaker 1: want to do a season two because he said, some
Speaker 1: things just need to be left untouching. To get that
Speaker 1: the cast of uh, the pit masses that they had,
Speaker 1: and the attitudes and the personalities, it's hard to you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it's hard to strike gold twice,
Speaker 1: you know, and you're part of well, you know you,
Speaker 1: I know you'll be back because it's part of your brain,
Speaker 1: it's part of you. It's just part of what you do.
Speaker 1: That that like, you know, when I put the press
Speaker 1: relead that police out, you know, they said, I said
Speaker 1: with Kevin's name first, Kevin Bloss's name first on the
Speaker 1: press release. That press release was reached a hundred million people. Wow.
Speaker 1: Picked when you start talking about audience picked up our
Speaker 1: different websites and they started putting that numbing together a
Speaker 1: hundred million people. And that's what relationships do, Kevin. And
Speaker 1: that's what you're talking about this whole conversation is that
Speaker 1: you respect the process, you understand the process. Just drop
Speaker 1: just drop some jewels on people about the value of relationships, Kevin.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like I said when you when you
Speaker 1: say look at look out, I would not be here
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for people looking out for me. And
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I always say, uh, Russia's uh.
Speaker 1: I don't give to be blessed. I'm blessed, so I
Speaker 1: give you know, it's not no secret recipe that this
Speaker 1: you know, it has to come from your heart. Like
Speaker 1: I try to tell people, love to to talk about
Speaker 1: all the funerals and stuff we paid for um, you
Speaker 1: know with blood cells. Okay, let's also talk about the
Speaker 1: scholarships and how many kids we put through college to
Speaker 1: more of the good things that outweigh the bad things.
Speaker 1: And God has put me in position to help like that.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying, and and it it it
Speaker 1: comes that, That's what it's It's like, it's so weird,
Speaker 1: it's just And I try to tell people it has
Speaker 1: to come from your heart and it's natural. The blessing
Speaker 1: is gonna keep ringing in if you do what you're
Speaker 1: posted to do. And how was you raised? You was
Speaker 1: raised to give you know me us as black posting.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, coming up, what we had, all
Speaker 1: we had was food and and love and hugs and
Speaker 1: all that, and like we gotta we gotta go back
Speaker 1: to that, man, we gotta we gotta go back to that.
Speaker 1: And you gotta want to put the work in. It's
Speaker 1: hard work. Like people want to get a business. I know,
Speaker 1: you know, a business is gonna be the hardest job
Speaker 1: you ever had in your life. Right and if you
Speaker 1: don't have that mint that's why everybody can't do with
Speaker 1: a business is gonna be the hardest job in your
Speaker 1: I mean, I said it due something. I want to
Speaker 1: be like you. I want to you know, be able
Speaker 1: to live in Texas and this and not this and that.
Speaker 1: I said, okay, well you ready to go eight years
Speaker 1: without off day? You know what I mean, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: post that all the motivational card, Kevin, don't put that
Speaker 1: on my way. Are you ready to give eight years
Speaker 1: date when open up? Let me tell you when I
Speaker 1: first opened up blood Shoes, I was still d Jane,
Speaker 1: so I would have I would I would get to
Speaker 1: blood Tows at uh four o'clock on a Saturday morning
Speaker 1: and uh be there until seven o'clock. Home at night,
Speaker 1: go home, take a shower, pack my gig up, and
Speaker 1: go do a DJ gig. Get back about two three
Speaker 1: in the morning, take a shower, and go up to
Speaker 1: blood shows to take briskuts off and get ready for
Speaker 1: the day. Two hours straight. And that went on for
Speaker 1: the first almost year and a half of my business
Speaker 1: because I was at one time, I was just DJ
Speaker 1: and and catering. So I was bucked, you know, But
Speaker 1: I had to do what I had to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: my daughter wrote wanted to car wish I had it.
Speaker 1: She said, my daddy, if you knew the work my daddy,
Speaker 1: it was called my Daddy's not overnight success. My daddy
Speaker 1: would come in at three in the morning. I would
Speaker 1: just hope my father got at least one hour of sleep,
Speaker 1: and I know he didn't. My Daddy's not an overnight success.
Speaker 1: And they got to know everybody's path. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: be that way, you know, but it's tough, especially when
Speaker 1: you and I would and I know you know, when
Speaker 1: you know money making conversations. I would tell anybody, if
Speaker 1: you can, please have the money and the backing to start,
Speaker 1: because when you start on a shoestring budget, that's why
Speaker 1: a lot of them don't make it because you need that.
Speaker 1: And us as a community, that's why we need our
Speaker 1: own banks and we need because we can't these younger
Speaker 1: they can't get the loans. You know. They want you
Speaker 1: to to be experienced to get a small business man
Speaker 1: a loan. But you you need the small business man
Speaker 1: only get going, you know, and they and they and
Speaker 1: they have to understand that. Then as you grow, get
Speaker 1: get you know, get with a good team. I have
Speaker 1: a good team behind me. There's no way I could
Speaker 1: do what I'm doing if I didn't have the team
Speaker 1: that uh I have working you know with with you know,
Speaker 1: the blood shows, LLC. The people that we have, the
Speaker 1: things that have been done, the doors that have opened,
Speaker 1: to get tied straight, to get on the bread, to
Speaker 1: get in those conversations that we need to be in
Speaker 1: so we can have a voice, you know. And that's
Speaker 1: the whole thing. You have to have a good team, man,
Speaker 1: And then you got to trust the team. You might
Speaker 1: be the quarterback, but you need some good receivers, line,
Speaker 1: running backs, coaches, you know, on the sidelines, cheering your
Speaker 1: own cheerleaders, all that stuff, man. And more importantly, you
Speaker 1: need fans in the stands. That's called customers people and
Speaker 1: how you keep them by putting out a good product. Absolutely, Kevin,
Speaker 1: I just want to thank you, man, and uh look,
Speaker 1: don't hang up, come and wrap up this show. I
Speaker 1: want to get the number and so we can stay
Speaker 1: in touch. But uh, I just love you, man, I
Speaker 1: just love you, man. Man, I got so much love
Speaker 1: and respect for you. Bro, it's like it's it's unwavery
Speaker 1: man real talk. You know, because of the fact that
Speaker 1: I know where you came from. I know, I know,
Speaker 1: and I know that what I've been doing all my
Speaker 1: life and two people, I've been doing this since all
Speaker 1: the eighteen years old. For some reason, God just just
Speaker 1: said this is what you do. You uplift people. You
Speaker 1: you don't somebody's behind you. You don't run off and
Speaker 1: leave them. You extend their own or our hand. And
Speaker 1: that's where the Neighborhood Awards and that's what the Hoodie
Speaker 1: Awards was. And to see you have such a reaction
Speaker 1: in it, and there's a lot of people like that. Man.
Speaker 1: I'll be in DC. People to come on that you
Speaker 1: ain't gonna bring it back, Come on that stop. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about barber shops I'm talking about high school churches, Detroit, Atlanta,
Speaker 1: all over this country. Stopped me for real, man, for real,
Speaker 1: I said, look, thinking about it. Well, we're thinking about it, man,
Speaker 1: I got something else, Gona, we're gonna jump off. But
Speaker 1: we're talking about her brother because I understand exactly what's
Speaker 1: going off, what's going on in life, and I know
Speaker 1: its need, especially during these times or the pandemic and
Speaker 1: black unrest, because you know, somebody messed up with this
Speaker 1: pregnantlated to date, had their knee on her, the police,
Speaker 1: and that it's not gonna stop, man. And we gotta
Speaker 1: go out there and vote. We gotta register the vote.
Speaker 1: And I'm voting in person, my friend, I am voting
Speaker 1: in person. I'm not messing around with no mail in ballot.
Speaker 1: I'm not messing around with that. I wanted somebody to go,
Speaker 1: here's your card. Sure you've officially voted, because I want
Speaker 1: to people understand that if you want something to life,
Speaker 1: no matter what it is, a business, you want to graduate,
Speaker 1: you want to be in a relationship for a long time,
Speaker 1: it's hard work. It's hard work, and voting it is hard.
Speaker 1: If he got stand in that line, if it's raining,
Speaker 1: if it's storming standing that line, because if I don't
Speaker 1: make a change, it's gonna be uh four more years
Speaker 1: of a life that would never be good, especially for
Speaker 1: people you aren't making it. And I'm just talking about
Speaker 1: you know, we we we've crossed a little line there, Kevin.
Speaker 1: We could survive the ignorance. I'm not. But again, if
Speaker 1: I'm making it and my people ain't making it, then
Speaker 1: I'm not making That's right. You ain't making it, because
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a burden, you know. And I always
Speaker 1: take you too, And I know we're wrapping. But it
Speaker 1: wasn't that long ago when we talk about standing the lines.
Speaker 1: I meant my son was at a play football at
Speaker 1: Utah and he called me one day and he was
Speaker 1: just upset and he was like that he was wing
Speaker 1: a sixty five. I said, yeah, Mark. He said, the
Speaker 1: Voters Act was made uh June or whatever six, So yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever was he said, So when you was born, black
Speaker 1: people couldn't vote. So he said, my granting them couldn't vote?
Speaker 1: I said no, And if if it hit home with him,
Speaker 1: like he knows people, he couldn't believe that he knew
Speaker 1: black people that couldn't vote at the time. And if
Speaker 1: people don't think certain things can happen again. Like I
Speaker 1: tell people all the time, I'm not a conspiracy theorist,
Speaker 1: theory of sporist or whatever I said. But when they came,
Speaker 1: when got the brothers from Africa for slavery, said they
Speaker 1: were living normal life, normal life. I said, please look
Speaker 1: at the big picture on everything. Please look at people
Speaker 1: trying to line up with with Russia and things like that.
Speaker 1: Just always look at the big picture, man, and get
Speaker 1: out there and vote. Man, it's just this. I never
Speaker 1: thought we would be to this time again, and we are.
Speaker 1: And if this don't bring us all together, and like
Speaker 1: I said, you can't say certain things aren't different, because
Speaker 1: I mean, I was in l A for the ninety
Speaker 1: two rides. You know what I mean. You brothers and
Speaker 1: Hispanics out there, But now look at who's out there now.
Speaker 1: It's white, black, Hispanic together. And like I said, maybe
Speaker 1: not in a lifetime, but I feel like once you
Speaker 1: have kids, ain't it's about maybe in a lifetime and
Speaker 1: a lifetime after that, racism might not exist no more,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's what I try
Speaker 1: to work towards. Man. But we gotta do it. You know, Yes, Kevin,
Speaker 1: I would appreciate you coming on money making conversations with
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Speaker 1: graduating class the Bishop College and don't know my sister
Speaker 1: went to school Bishop College. I know what you're talking about. Man.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host Sean McDonald. My next guest. Randy Williams
Speaker 1: is the president of Tally and Twining, a company that
Speaker 1: designs and manufactures luxury watches and necessaries. Since starting the
Speaker 1: company of fourteen, ranting this game national media attention with
Speaker 1: Features and Men's Health, Black Enterprise, Huffing and Post Essence,
Speaker 1: Blavety New York, New York Magazine, and Cosmopolitan. The company
Speaker 1: names comes from an intersection that was formerly the center
Speaker 1: of a notorious crime ready neighborhood in Virginia and reason.
Speaker 1: In recent years, the neighborhood has been completely revitalized and
Speaker 1: those same families now have the opportunity to own a
Speaker 1: place where the dark past now has a bright future.
Speaker 1: Talian Twine represents the future. It's not about how you start,
Speaker 1: is about how you finish. Please welcome to money making Conversations.
Speaker 1: The Owner, Founder, CEO, all the titles to go with
Speaker 1: the leader of the pack, my man, Randy Williams, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for having me great intro. Well you
Speaker 1: submit that that you got Stephen A. Smith doing your intro.
Speaker 1: That's legendary. Man. I love that. Hey man, the first
Speaker 1: of all, I love when people recognize his voice. That's
Speaker 1: my man, man, and he lays it as only Stephen A.
Speaker 1: Smith concern I'm not broke, that's true. Well, this is
Speaker 1: just what this show is about, talking to people who
Speaker 1: are trying to gain their footh haul and in the
Speaker 1: financial community, especially people of color. They have kind of
Speaker 1: like been left out over the years. We haven't been
Speaker 1: giving a blueprint or had the necessary means to figure
Speaker 1: out figured out. You know, they tell us to go
Speaker 1: to school, we get an education, but that that'sn't a
Speaker 1: blueprint for success. That's to tell you how to become
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. Tell us how I got started for you, Randy,
Speaker 1: a lot of trial and error and you know, like
Speaker 1: you said, there isn't a blueprint. But if you want
Speaker 1: to become an entrepreneur, you gotta go out and try
Speaker 1: a few different things and kind of learned along the way.
Speaker 1: So you know, fail feel that business a lot, and
Speaker 1: all you need to be right is one time, right now,
Speaker 1: be right now. You're an HBCU. Grat Okay, Why why
Speaker 1: an HBCU for your education? Yeah, well it's not a
Speaker 1: deep answer for me. They're the ones who accepted me.
Speaker 1: You know, it was close to the whole. It was affordable.
Speaker 1: You know, as a as a young man being raised
Speaker 1: by my grandmother, we can't have a whole lot of
Speaker 1: money saved up for me to attend college. So I
Speaker 1: was less enough to have a decent g p A.
Speaker 1: And you get in the Albany State University man, so
Speaker 1: I had to. Um. I was thankful for that opportunity.
Speaker 1: It gave me a great cultural experience, you know. Um
Speaker 1: I actually didn't recognize the value of hbc US until
Speaker 1: I attended one man. But it was a great experience.
Speaker 1: When you said the value, what does that mean when
Speaker 1: it's the value of an HBCU until you attended it.
Speaker 1: So basically, like I said, they let you in, you
Speaker 1: were thankful, you can continue education, but you usually understand
Speaker 1: the other things that it brought to the table able
Speaker 1: that now you see as a benefit. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a huge cultural experience. You know, it's a celebration of blackness,
Speaker 1: and it's an environment where instructors and professors make you
Speaker 1: feel seen, and that's something that's missing in corporate America.
Speaker 1: It's they're kind of like UM an incubator, Like they
Speaker 1: have business incubators for businesses that kind of give you
Speaker 1: a great push to start. That's what it does for
Speaker 1: Black American man HBCU as an incubator to prepare you
Speaker 1: for the corporate environment that you're gonna face after graduation.
Speaker 1: And now that's called life after college, which we were
Speaker 1: talking about now now and one of your questions that said,
Speaker 1: you had previous businesses that have failed. Can you talk
Speaker 1: about those before we got into the success story of
Speaker 1: Italian Twine? Yeah? Sure, Um. The biggest failure I had,
Speaker 1: I guess in terms of money was you know, trying
Speaker 1: to get into real estate and right at two thousand
Speaker 1: seven and two thousand eight, UM and right where you
Speaker 1: are in Atlanta and losing my shirt. You know. So
Speaker 1: that was one of the biggest lessons, is you know,
Speaker 1: hopping into stuff without taking the time to properly educate
Speaker 1: yourself on how to do it. So basically you saw
Speaker 1: an opportunity, didn't do your research like you said, and
Speaker 1: that that that famous year two thousand and eight, and
Speaker 1: when everything went from success to horror, I mean from
Speaker 1: a nightmare was find Nobody could explain it because they
Speaker 1: had already the system had already had kind of like
Speaker 1: pushed this limit on loans, pushed this limit on corporations
Speaker 1: and needed bailout, and the stock market was the bubble burst,
Speaker 1: and you part of that. I was part of America,
Speaker 1: was part of that. Nobody was left, you know, you
Speaker 1: were by Oprah. However, value just dropped and all these
Speaker 1: major players in the tech game started suffering, and all
Speaker 1: that those those levels of income that they thought were
Speaker 1: gonna be there forever went away went away. Tally Entwine, Now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this, We're not not trying to
Speaker 1: be negative or anything. I just I and Wining watches
Speaker 1: it all I had in my mind. Um, I just
Speaker 1: didn't wear I watched. I stopped warting to watch, probably
Speaker 1: about inighties six, I stopped wearing to watch and uh,
Speaker 1: and then um because somebodw I can always find the time.
Speaker 1: You know, you have a phones, you have I'm very
Speaker 1: good at knowing my time where I'm at, And so
Speaker 1: that's where I would perceived watches to be time. Now.
Speaker 1: I look at watches now as accessories, as as part
Speaker 1: of the as part of your style, part of my
Speaker 1: culture now. And so a friend of mine, uh, she
Speaker 1: executive producer a family few, as a birthday president, president,
Speaker 1: she Christmas friends. He brought me a watch and I
Speaker 1: let it sat there that I was determined just to
Speaker 1: hold true to Rushan. I'm not gonna wear watching I
Speaker 1: bought all these years watching I wear watching that, and
Speaker 1: I and I and I realized that sometimes you have
Speaker 1: you have to change goals to be successful, you have
Speaker 1: to change your the way you do business. And putting
Speaker 1: on that watch really changed the way I I did
Speaker 1: business and how I approached myself became more flexible. And
Speaker 1: so I I used that as a as a lead
Speaker 1: into the conversation that sometimes people who might say, what
Speaker 1: does the watch bringing to the why I did the
Speaker 1: where I watched where a watch changed the way I
Speaker 1: approach life, Randy, and and if it allowed me to
Speaker 1: be flexible, it allowed me to be fashionable because I
Speaker 1: got like three different ones, you know, and I've just
Speaker 1: found about your brand. So I'm out to perch me
Speaker 1: a couple of your brand. That's how I've gotten that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And uh and so so
Speaker 1: let's talk about you. You've heard my story and how
Speaker 1: the impact of who the watch can have. It made me. Uh,
Speaker 1: I felt it made me made me because I wear
Speaker 1: suits all the times. Tailor made suits, so it made
Speaker 1: my my my my clothing balanced. I felt because I
Speaker 1: didn't have anything, because if you don't have anything on
Speaker 1: your wrist, it's just naked there. It's just it's just
Speaker 1: it's just skin. Now I have this watch, and I
Speaker 1: can't tell you. Sometimes your people see me as I
Speaker 1: I like your watch, and I don't even know because
Speaker 1: I because I'm a guy who pointed out them. Very
Speaker 1: active with my hands and then on my other I'm
Speaker 1: a cancer survivor. So I have this little chain on
Speaker 1: my right hand, on my right hand where reminds me
Speaker 1: and asked me about it. I always tell them about surviving.
Speaker 1: And so I have a watch that is on my
Speaker 1: left which talks about my culture, my balance, and my
Speaker 1: watching them all right, I got a risk chain that
Speaker 1: talks about survival. And so when I when I, when I,
Speaker 1: when the opportunity came about to interview you, I just
Speaker 1: really wanted to know what was the driving legacy of
Speaker 1: watches for you and the unpacking can have them a
Speaker 1: person like me. Yeah, most of our customers have that
Speaker 1: same story as you have. Somebody got it for him
Speaker 1: gifts as a gift and they weren't really into him,
Speaker 1: but once they started wearing, it's kind of one of
Speaker 1: those things where you feel like, man, I don't want
Speaker 1: to go out without one now. And my personal story
Speaker 1: is during our senior trip in high school when on
Speaker 1: the cruise went to the Bahamas, I went in to
Speaker 1: one of these little local shops and they had a
Speaker 1: fifty dollar guests watching there and I had never won
Speaker 1: a watch before, but buying that, I spent my last
Speaker 1: little money that I had. I bought that watch and
Speaker 1: to bring it back home. That was the first time
Speaker 1: I felt like a grown man, you know. I felt
Speaker 1: like I have become a man and now I can
Speaker 1: go on to college and face the world. And that
Speaker 1: kind of was coinciding with me going to college. At
Speaker 1: the same time I got my first watch, and so
Speaker 1: that it became important to me for that reason, you know.
Speaker 1: So again, just like you, I was a business major
Speaker 1: and we wore a lot of suits, and I felt
Speaker 1: like that watch really in hand that and gave me
Speaker 1: that professional polish that I was looking for. And um,
Speaker 1: how did you get in the watch business? You know,
Speaker 1: like I said, you know people couldn't You know that
Speaker 1: doesn't the first African American? Okay, and you you're getting
Speaker 1: into the watch business and talk about that step because
Speaker 1: of course, you know, it's this natural conversation to you.
Speaker 1: We're all money making conversations. So I'm trying to walk
Speaker 1: people through the steps of how you can get to
Speaker 1: your dream. And it's not normal because you just can't
Speaker 1: go to the next door and just talk to somebody.
Speaker 1: I want to store. I want to get in to
Speaker 1: watch it. They look at you like, Okay, now you
Speaker 1: talk about the Bahama trip. Okay, that's a long ways
Speaker 1: from what We're a long ways from Bahamas. Because of
Speaker 1: the fact that you know Italian and Twine we talked
Speaker 1: about how that is from from a street name in
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, Like my business is thirty and fifteen media,
Speaker 1: thirty and fifteen media. The number thirty fifteen is from
Speaker 1: the home that I was born in that was in
Speaker 1: the hood and uh and it was six bed room.
Speaker 1: It was will six bear was six, six sisters and
Speaker 1: two brothers. My both my parents who lived in a
Speaker 1: two bedrooms shotgun house. So when I read that, Tali
Speaker 1: and Trying, it's a lot of thing that you're doing
Speaker 1: in your life that's very relatable to what I do
Speaker 1: and what I what I stand for. And that's why
Speaker 1: I feel that I always want to keep you in
Speaker 1: my life because I feel that we have a certain kinship.
Speaker 1: But again, you young man, wanted to do go into
Speaker 1: the watch business. How does one get into the watch business? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Through um so, through a lot of trial and error
Speaker 1: and other businesses. You realize that in order for a
Speaker 1: business to be successful, you have to fulfill a need,
Speaker 1: fulfill a gap. So there's something missing or there's a
Speaker 1: market that's not being served that could benefit from what
Speaker 1: you have to offer. And so, as a consumer of watches,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of our people should really
Speaker 1: take note of that is a lot of things that
Speaker 1: you consume um represent an opportunity for you. And so
Speaker 1: I was collecting a lot of watches, but I figured
Speaker 1: out something. Most of the brands that were affordable, meaning
Speaker 1: under a thousand dollars, they were just mimicking the more
Speaker 1: expensive brand. So it was a lot of repetition in
Speaker 1: the market. And I wanted to wear something different, you know,
Speaker 1: I said, if I had a watch, I would change this,
Speaker 1: I would change that, my band would look like this.
Speaker 1: And after while, I realized that that represented a huge,
Speaker 1: huge opportunity for me to get into business and designed
Speaker 1: my own watch. Now how I was gonna do that,
Speaker 1: I had no idea, and so that's when I went
Speaker 1: to YouTube and Google university and kind of figure out
Speaker 1: the steps to step by step. I started with a
Speaker 1: sketch and then I eventually contacted the manufacturer. UH. They
Speaker 1: helped me bring that to life, order some samples, and
Speaker 1: once I got the samples the way that I wanted them,
Speaker 1: you know, over the course of about a year year
Speaker 1: and a half, that's when I decided to launch, and
Speaker 1: we launched via the crowdfunding site kickstarter to raise money
Speaker 1: for our first shipment. So you went out there. I've
Speaker 1: heard people say Kickstarted, what what engaged people want to
Speaker 1: contribute to your brain? What did you do? What was it?
Speaker 1: What was your platform? What was your what made them
Speaker 1: want to go, wow, I want to I want to
Speaker 1: contribute to this. And how does kick started work when
Speaker 1: someone contributes to it? Do they are they part owners?
Speaker 1: They have a little percentage of your brand? How does
Speaker 1: that work? M um? Well, my platform was just what
Speaker 1: I told you, So here's something new for the market.
Speaker 1: Here's something that is not going to be a replica
Speaker 1: of all the other watches that are out. So that
Speaker 1: was my main platform. And then also I started with
Speaker 1: the interchangeable band, so I have these canvas bands that
Speaker 1: we can change. You can give your watching completely different looks.
Speaker 1: So those are my two platforms. And then the way
Speaker 1: kicks Started works is it's basically a pre order system.
Speaker 1: So in order to get your products early, people will
Speaker 1: pay um ahead of time and they will get a
Speaker 1: discount off of the retail price. Right, So let's say
Speaker 1: my goal was to raise and so I knew I
Speaker 1: needed I think maybe a hundred and hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: backers to pre order the Watch, who believe in what
Speaker 1: we were doing, who believed that we would be able
Speaker 1: to get the main manufacturing process done to go ahead
Speaker 1: and pre order and an exchange. They were able to
Speaker 1: get a steep discount off of the initial watch. But no,
Speaker 1: they are not part owners, so they just they basically
Speaker 1: we just ordered their product at a discount. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: Some crowd fund the platforms at work like that where
Speaker 1: you do get ownership. But I didn't do that. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you didn't thankful for it, aren't you? You know, because
Speaker 1: we all have dreams. The thing about when the dream
Speaker 1: that comes successful and then people look around tapping you
Speaker 1: on the show talking about what my chick it's about
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty of them? Ready, that that gets
Speaker 1: pretty hugly real fast man, Well hundred, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: where my check at. You know. Look, man, look, let
Speaker 1: me give you back your two dollars. Okay, you can
Speaker 1: go about your business all right? Sorry, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's not what my contracts say. My contracts saying I
Speaker 1: owned some of this and I want my share. Man.
Speaker 1: You be here for screaming up and down now when
Speaker 1: I'm looking at these bands. Man, you know, because on
Speaker 1: your site right, and the different look it's what you know,
Speaker 1: the large face is, they're very clean. Your you're watches,
Speaker 1: uh don't have numbers on them? Was what that was?
Speaker 1: That the look that you were seeking. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: look that I was seeking, because again, I wanted to
Speaker 1: do something that wasn't traditional. And you said it earlier.
Speaker 1: We don't really use our watches for telling time now.
Speaker 1: It's more of a fast accessor, and so I wanted
Speaker 1: to give it a unique look. So we only have
Speaker 1: the number seven on all of our watching and why
Speaker 1: is that? Well, the number seven represents completion. So I
Speaker 1: told myself when I started talenting Twine, I was gonna
Speaker 1: finish what I started. You know, you know a lot
Speaker 1: of times as entrepreneurs we started stuff and thinking of stuff.
Speaker 1: Don't I love you boy? I number seven? You know,
Speaker 1: you know seven days in the week. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, You gotta complete your prod. That's right. And
Speaker 1: then there's also something very recognizable. Man. I imagine people
Speaker 1: being out in the store looking over at somebody's wrists
Speaker 1: and seeing that up and say, hey, is that a
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Speaker 1: or they go why just or creature conversation, you know,
Speaker 1: or as a conversation exactly what type of watching? Because
Speaker 1: that in the end, man, that's really all you're trying
Speaker 1: to create. Like I said, you know, people try to
Speaker 1: create ice breakers. And first of all, it's a beautiful watch,
Speaker 1: and then that number seven on it. You know, if
Speaker 1: somebody is is just or seven, then you explain it.
Speaker 1: Then you get to a conversation with somebody and now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden there's a great ice breaker. But
Speaker 1: the but the look in the fashion is really so
Speaker 1: this is really I think a very timely watch. So
Speaker 1: what with the official launch date for this watch, Randy,
Speaker 1: We launched in November two thousand, November, right before Christmas,
Speaker 1: smart move, right before christ Okay, so everything's online, correct, Yes, sir?
Speaker 1: We sell directed consumer. Um, we don't do any retail
Speaker 1: right now. Okay. So COVID hit, the pandemic hits, the
Speaker 1: country shuts down. What does that do for your brain?
Speaker 1: We saw increase in sales, you know, because people were
Speaker 1: at home. Um, and unfortunately the social unrest also added
Speaker 1: a boost to our business. You know, as people begin
Speaker 1: to seek out black owned businesses, you know, so you know,
Speaker 1: it kind of validated my thinking from the beginning was that,
Speaker 1: you know, eventually traditional retails gonna continue to continue to
Speaker 1: slow down and people are gonna want to owner their
Speaker 1: products online. They're not gonna want to put up with
Speaker 1: the higher prices at retail, They're not gonna put up
Speaker 1: with the bad customer service. They get a retail um
Speaker 1: and so I kind of pushed all my chip to
Speaker 1: the table to be saying that we're gonna do directly
Speaker 1: consumer and sell online only. We actually turned out so
Speaker 1: some major contracts from some traditional retailers to keep our
Speaker 1: brand intact. When you say that, what do you mean
Speaker 1: you you to keep your brand intact? What does that mean? Yeah? Meaning, um,
Speaker 1: let's say we we got a um A purchase order
Speaker 1: from from North from Fly and we chose not to
Speaker 1: do it. Because when you shop at North from your
Speaker 1: northroom's customer, they control the social they control the customer service.
Speaker 1: They can talk to you how they want to, they
Speaker 1: can ship in whatever time frame they want to, and
Speaker 1: ultimately you become their customer. As a direct and consumer business,
Speaker 1: you maintain the connection with all of your customers. So
Speaker 1: I can say, hey, Mr Williams, thank you for your
Speaker 1: purchase last month. You want to know if you'll be
Speaker 1: interested in one of our leather bands to accompany the
Speaker 1: watch that you purchase, or I can send you a
Speaker 1: card on your birthday, or I can send you a
Speaker 1: free gift in the mail prior to the holidays. And ultimately,
Speaker 1: the value in today's market is having that customer base.
Speaker 1: There's no need to give it away to somebody just
Speaker 1: because you know their name and they've been around for
Speaker 1: a while, because you're ultimately providing the value. Wow, I'm
Speaker 1: talking to Randy Williams. He's the president of Italian Twine, accompaniate,
Speaker 1: the designs and manufacturer luxury watches and accessories. He started
Speaker 1: November fourteen. And you're really good at getting UM media
Speaker 1: to look at your brand. How you're accomplishing that task,
Speaker 1: because that's the number one talk that people talk a
Speaker 1: he man, I I can I get promotion I can
Speaker 1: get from I can get all the cole written on
Speaker 1: my product. First of all, out to have a good
Speaker 1: looking product. But you're you when I look when I
Speaker 1: when I'm doing this interview, you have a very interesting
Speaker 1: personality with interesting meaning is good because you have a plan,
Speaker 1: you have a conversation. You know, you're you have all
Speaker 1: the right things to say about who you are and
Speaker 1: why you're doing this. You know, like that number seven
Speaker 1: is really slick. You know, interchangeable watches, you know. I
Speaker 1: know when I was marketing Steve Harvey's first book, they
Speaker 1: always put out a little phrases out of the book
Speaker 1: so you can when you go to an interview. These
Speaker 1: are buzzwords and people jump on them. So what is
Speaker 1: your degree in randy market My degree is that marketing.
Speaker 1: So all listen, this is all part of the big plan. Really,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Part of the big plan
Speaker 1: it because everything you do is like not I won't
Speaker 1: say marketing one on one, but guess what. You have
Speaker 1: all the right little layers and buzzes and statements to
Speaker 1: be able to say, I'm an interesting guy. You can
Speaker 1: put me on TV, I can talk if you write
Speaker 1: about me. Guess where I got stuff to put in print?
Speaker 1: And it all comes back to a product that looks outstanding. Man,
Speaker 1: Thank you man. I'll tell you what, Sean, it's like this, Um,
Speaker 1: I think I like it to I attributed to self awareness.
Speaker 1: So it's just like when you go from being a
Speaker 1: young man to an older man, you understand who you
Speaker 1: are more and you understand why you're doing what you're doing.
Speaker 1: You're not just doing something to make money or you're
Speaker 1: not just doing something for attention. And I wanted Italians
Speaker 1: wanting to be a brand like that that understood it,
Speaker 1: so that had these principles and these values that were
Speaker 1: built into the brand, and we weren't kind of following
Speaker 1: the trends and following was popular. And so that's how
Speaker 1: I think about it. And to answer your question about
Speaker 1: how we got the media, I have no idea. We
Speaker 1: have never had a pr agency. We don't reach out
Speaker 1: to media outlets. Somehow we get UH coverage and I
Speaker 1: just consider it a blessing. I just say that that's
Speaker 1: God's grace. And I really don't have a strategy for
Speaker 1: that one. But I go to the website. I see everybody,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I see I see the strategy.
Speaker 1: You know, from the marketing standpoint, I see Men's Health,
Speaker 1: Black Enterprise, he poses Plavity, Mashable. They not New York
Speaker 1: cost Bottom Ebony. That right there. Let everybody know, we'll
Speaker 1: brand is being recognized by all the top media outlets.
Speaker 1: That means that you are you're very much aware of
Speaker 1: who you are and the story you're trying to tell.
Speaker 1: Now you have a men's line and you have a
Speaker 1: women's line. Okay, I'm assuming you started with the men's
Speaker 1: line first. Correct, Yes, sir? When did you get smart?
Speaker 1: Got to bring it on the women because they're the
Speaker 1: one they're they're the ones who really they're the ones
Speaker 1: who buy two or three things. You know, they got
Speaker 1: a dress for this, they got a dressed for that.
Speaker 1: You know when when when did that pop up? Realize
Speaker 1: that the women? I'm assuming that the women are the
Speaker 1: biggest buyers. Correct, it's about yeah, so, which which I
Speaker 1: like because that means that you have a pretty much established,
Speaker 1: especially on the men's side, a certain dollar value customer. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say so. I think two years in I started,
Speaker 1: I couldn't resist it anymore because I wanted tally trying
Speaker 1: to be men's brand, because that's who I knew how
Speaker 1: to market too. I was so afraid of trying to
Speaker 1: market the women. I didn't want to mess up in
Speaker 1: the way that I was communicating with them. But after
Speaker 1: a while, man, after get email and email and call
Speaker 1: and call, it was women buying gifts for men as
Speaker 1: much as there were men shopping on our site, and
Speaker 1: so it just represented a no brain I mean, the
Speaker 1: people actor and they wanted, uh, a watch that match
Speaker 1: their husbands. They wanted to give set and so I
Speaker 1: just kind of took that feedback and you know, I
Speaker 1: had to slap myself against the head. It's like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? You know, why aren't you selling women's
Speaker 1: watching or so we rolled that out and you know,
Speaker 1: it instantly wasn't hit. And what I love about having
Speaker 1: female customers is when they love a product, they are
Speaker 1: going to talk about it, They're going to discuss it,
Speaker 1: they're going to share it. And that's really one of
Speaker 1: the things that has allowed us to grow. You know.
Speaker 1: The thing that I really like about what I'm seeing
Speaker 1: here in on your line is that, man, these watches
Speaker 1: look sexy. Man, you know, because you know, I I
Speaker 1: here's a guy like I said, what intoen I put
Speaker 1: a watch back on my body, okay, And so I'm
Speaker 1: watching these watches. Man. You who's ever taking these photos? Man?
Speaker 1: They really know how to make these watches look man,
Speaker 1: I want that to watch with my risk. Man, I
Speaker 1: mean these are I mean, these are some attractive looking
Speaker 1: photos that look so are you involved in the selection,
Speaker 1: you know, like when looking for Let's go back when
Speaker 1: you have had this Playball magazine? You know he went
Speaker 1: through all the pictures, He's made all final selection on
Speaker 1: the photos that went on into the magazine. How involved
Speaker 1: in you? Because I'm just telling you, man, this is
Speaker 1: the These these photos with the watch, it almost like, Man,
Speaker 1: I can put that watch on my all right there
Speaker 1: with that shirt. I put that watch with my blue suit.
Speaker 1: This is what you're selling. You're selling is not. I
Speaker 1: don't need to see the full body. I just need
Speaker 1: to see high looks on my wrist. And that's what
Speaker 1: you're doing. Somewhere along the line, Randy, You've tapped into something, man,
Speaker 1: And uh and I'm just trying to m and this.
Speaker 1: I know it's I know over time I figured out.
Speaker 1: But his interview. You're special, dude, You're special and understanding
Speaker 1: what excites people. What what You're making a watch value
Speaker 1: to me? You're making me want to buy your watch
Speaker 1: when I go through this website. You're making me want
Speaker 1: to like, not just one watch, I want to try
Speaker 1: a couple of them, you know, two or three, because
Speaker 1: you know black goes are black or gray, brown goes blue.
Speaker 1: You know browns can go with great. So you can't
Speaker 1: just put a watch on with everything. I've learned that
Speaker 1: you know you when you have a value customer, Like
Speaker 1: I said, you go in my house. I got like
Speaker 1: four or five watches because I got my silver, my platinum,
Speaker 1: because different suits I put on, I have to look
Speaker 1: a certain way. Now. My two favorite colors are my
Speaker 1: black and my brown wrist bands. But one of the
Speaker 1: big sellers for your watches that you can interchange bands, correct, yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 1: So let's go back to the selection of these photos
Speaker 1: and start. I forgot about that. No, I didn't forget
Speaker 1: about that. How did these pictures get on your website?
Speaker 1: Because they are they're like making me want to like
Speaker 1: put out my American Express to start dying. And right now,
Speaker 1: I mean, you're making me sick right now, Randy, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, man, brother, I got I will be buying
Speaker 1: a couple of these watches. Brother. Well, it's a it's
Speaker 1: an important part of the process. So like you know,
Speaker 1: you're like custom suits and you go in and you
Speaker 1: get greeted by someone. They measure you, they ask you questions,
Speaker 1: they find out about just a really personal experience. And
Speaker 1: so as an online business, we don't have that person
Speaker 1: to person touchpoint. So we have to try to make
Speaker 1: the website as attractive as possible so that people can
Speaker 1: understand the real value of the watch that they're going
Speaker 1: to be getting. So we try to photograph it from
Speaker 1: all angles. We try to photograph have photographs of people
Speaker 1: wearing it in their element so that we can really
Speaker 1: tell that story without having that one on one contact.
Speaker 1: So that's one of the hurdles that we have to
Speaker 1: get open. So that means our website has got to
Speaker 1: be ten times better and more attractive than it would
Speaker 1: be if you had that in story experience. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm really involved there today with the marketing and the
Speaker 1: photography and video selection, and I really enjoyed that part
Speaker 1: of my busines the business. It is actually my favorite part,
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely. So what is the warranty I buy to watch?
Speaker 1: You know a couple of watches that I really like,
Speaker 1: the sold sold out, the ALREADYO top of so what
Speaker 1: just just what do you select to watch? What's the
Speaker 1: window and what's the warranty on your watches. We have
Speaker 1: a two year warranty on our watches to the big
Speaker 1: thing happens, get it, get replaced, which is unprecedented in
Speaker 1: our pride. That's incredible. Two years year warranted. And also
Speaker 1: you can return a product and definitely you know, if
Speaker 1: you got it and you haven't used it, as long
Speaker 1: as something used, will always be able to refund you
Speaker 1: or exchange it for you. So we have a very
Speaker 1: generous return policy because we really believe in our product.
Speaker 1: Now this this this black metal band, the one that
Speaker 1: sold out, you know, of course it will be you know,
Speaker 1: you know I would pick the one that sold out,
Speaker 1: you know, crazy like that that that charcoal band on it.
Speaker 1: That's cold right there, man. I just love the women,
Speaker 1: the women lines, man, I love that that that that
Speaker 1: pink band, that blue band. Man, you know you you're
Speaker 1: just making a killing of that pink watch right here. Man,
Speaker 1: the pink leather band. That's outstanding. There's a pre order
Speaker 1: shipping by octob wards. That mean pre order shipping by
Speaker 1: October fifteen. The roles go, what does that mean? When
Speaker 1: I see that? Well, um, we were expecting to be
Speaker 1: a hundred percent improvement over what we did last year
Speaker 1: in terms of sale. But somewhere in the first three
Speaker 1: months of the year, we that catapulted over year and
Speaker 1: uh we sold out everything man, so um, we had
Speaker 1: to start making them available for pre order. UM. So
Speaker 1: we'll be shipping those pre orders are actually within the
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks, UM, and then after that hopefully
Speaker 1: we can have them stopped and we'll be shipping directly
Speaker 1: from the site. We know on this shipping two to
Speaker 1: three business days. But you know, the man has been
Speaker 1: so strong this year that we've had to switch over
Speaker 1: the pre orders. Well, Randy, all I gotta say, man,
Speaker 1: all right, if you don't mind, I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put you in my news letter goes out there thousand subscribers. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on my shopping thank You uh,
Speaker 1: which is on my Money Making Conversation and also on
Speaker 1: my um Money Making Conversation as well as on my
Speaker 1: um my HBCU Awards UH website that just launched this month.
Speaker 1: And my whole thing is that you have a great business.
Speaker 1: I am a customer and you my name will pop
Speaker 1: up on your site as a as a buyer because
Speaker 1: of the fact that, uh, you're special, man, not just
Speaker 1: a just special from a standpoint of the product. But
Speaker 1: if you have unique qualities and a unique understanding of
Speaker 1: how you want to be viewed, It's not about to check.
Speaker 1: It's about the brand. I always tell people, always tell
Speaker 1: people this. You know, I don't really chase money. I
Speaker 1: changed relationships and I changed and I control my brand.
Speaker 1: And if you do all those things, then you will
Speaker 1: make money and you'll be able to control your destiny
Speaker 1: and your future. But if you start giving away your
Speaker 1: brand for a check, then gets what you have to
Speaker 1: cater to them. And you're absolutely right. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like I always always go back to what I's to
Speaker 1: do with uh with with Krispy Kreme. Krispy Kreme, man,
Speaker 1: when that little sign came home, you stopped and you
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Speaker 1: next guest. Rhodesia Howardtons were several hats in the entrepreneur
Speaker 1: lifestyle space. She currently serves as owner and CEO of
Speaker 1: Credit Medics LLC. She's co founder or Go Get Crown,
Speaker 1: nonprofit organization for women empowerment, and co owner of Get
Speaker 1: Well Urgent Care medical Facility. Come from a poverty, strict
Speaker 1: and neighborhood and have an escaped the statistics, Howardton has
Speaker 1: found her purpose and passion, which is encouraging others and
Speaker 1: helping tom to reach their fullest potential and cheering them
Speaker 1: on to the finish line. Please walk on to Money
Speaker 1: Making Conversation. Rhodisha Howardton's good morning, good morning, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much. Well. First of all,
Speaker 1: you know when I when I hear the word thank
Speaker 1: you for coming on the show Money Making Conversation. Uh.
Speaker 1: I appreciate all guests who will take the time to
Speaker 1: deliver nuggets or inspirational information or define information that you
Speaker 1: can use to make themselves successful. Because I have women
Speaker 1: dominate my listenership by sixty percent of my audience women. Uh,
Speaker 1: eight percent of my audience is under the age of
Speaker 1: forty four, and so that means that they have an
Speaker 1: entrepreneurial mindset and they want to they want to be
Speaker 1: information that will help them win. Why did you look?
Speaker 1: I mentioned three organizations in your credit Let's start out
Speaker 1: with credit Medics in the in the middle of pandemic
Speaker 1: and financial Uh, the average person financial sitter rich, is
Speaker 1: in disarray. Does credit Medics help them or can be
Speaker 1: a role to play? They try to get them through this?
Speaker 1: Uh these difficult times. Well, absolutely, before the pandemic we
Speaker 1: have we have really changed thousands and thousands of our
Speaker 1: clients lives by just educating them or financial literacy. You'll
Speaker 1: be surprised. You know, I come from you know, an
Speaker 1: urban community, and you'd be surprised how many of us
Speaker 1: are never taught about credit. America has ran on credit
Speaker 1: and at these times, you you literally can use credit
Speaker 1: to survive, you know, if you got laid off, if
Speaker 1: you know they cut back when your hours. There are
Speaker 1: lines of credit that you would have access to if
Speaker 1: you were able to qualify for these lines of credit.
Speaker 1: You could use these lines of credit to survive until
Speaker 1: your income picks stack up and the bates have given
Speaker 1: me personally, on my on my personal line, I have
Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars um as the next on my
Speaker 1: line personally, and I have a few of those. So
Speaker 1: if I was to fall on hard times, that could
Speaker 1: carry me until I can figure it out, until I
Speaker 1: create could create another strain line and income or just
Speaker 1: to be able to survive. So credit is super duper
Speaker 1: important to be able to leverage, to be able to leverage,
Speaker 1: not just even during these times, you know, to be
Speaker 1: able to leverage to create generational wealth for you and
Speaker 1: your children. So it's very important and credit metics has
Speaker 1: assisted thousands and thousands of clients. I'm talking about home ownership,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about personal credit. I'm talking about business credit.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about establishing new businesses. I'm talking about expansion.
Speaker 1: All of that we know. Thank you for the energy
Speaker 1: and thank you for the points um about credit and
Speaker 1: about your credit score. When need credit? When did that?
Speaker 1: When I in your bio. Can you when when I
Speaker 1: when I read the statement poverty stricten neighborhood, what is that?
Speaker 1: What is that type of environment? And how long did
Speaker 1: you live in that? And how did that motivate you
Speaker 1: to who you are today? That coming in and being
Speaker 1: raised in that type of environment. So honestly, when I
Speaker 1: say poverty stritching, I was raising what we were called
Speaker 1: the hood. You know, a lot of inner city urban
Speaker 1: can n of these are you know, cause the hood
Speaker 1: we're living in poverty, very low income, you know, lack
Speaker 1: of education, A lot of the things that I have
Speaker 1: seen I should not have seen as a child. But
Speaker 1: I never used that as a crutch. I never used
Speaker 1: that as um a source of discouragement for me. I
Speaker 1: used that as encouragement for me. I used that as
Speaker 1: an example of I did not want to be like that,
Speaker 1: and I knew as a child. UM. The fortunate part
Speaker 1: of my childhood was I was able to travel a
Speaker 1: lot and my my dad who raised me because I
Speaker 1: was raising a single parent household and usually you hear
Speaker 1: you know the mother was a single mind, but it
Speaker 1: was my dad and we didn't have a lot of money.
Speaker 1: But my dad saw the importance of connecting us with
Speaker 1: people who could offer resources that he could not. So
Speaker 1: we traveled a lot, and me being able to travel
Speaker 1: outside of that environment, I was able to see that, Hey,
Speaker 1: life is bigger than this. Life is bigger than living
Speaker 1: in poverty and being content with being poor and not
Speaker 1: being able to have access the resources and not being
Speaker 1: able to live a great life growing up. Excuse my friend,
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of rich white people on TV.
Speaker 1: But when I begin to travel, I saw that white
Speaker 1: people weren't the only people that were able to be successful.
Speaker 1: Black people could be too. So that for me was
Speaker 1: the eye opener, and that for me challenged me to
Speaker 1: think bigger. You know, um, first of all, what you're
Speaker 1: sending is absolutely correct, is about getting out and seeing
Speaker 1: a bigger world because when you re reports and I
Speaker 1: I've been able to do a lot of social work
Speaker 1: and a lot of environmental My minor is in sociology
Speaker 1: and uh a lot of black people within the intern city.
Speaker 1: I grew up in inter city fifth Ward if it's
Speaker 1: just used in Texas, so I know exactly when you
Speaker 1: say the hood. I was born and raised in the
Speaker 1: hood fearth Ward and so and so the average black
Speaker 1: person who lives in the environment, don't really get out
Speaker 1: of that environment. In fact, they live, they and they
Speaker 1: work or if they want to call it work, and
Speaker 1: they can die, and that can munity and never know
Speaker 1: there's a downtown. Never know there are other layers of
Speaker 1: life outside their movie theaters. They can go to their restaurants,
Speaker 1: they can they can participate in a fine dining and
Speaker 1: all these things because of the fact they've never been
Speaker 1: exposed to that. And I really, I really like when
Speaker 1: you said that because a lot of people they take
Speaker 1: that for granted, who have been exposed. They think that's normal,
Speaker 1: and it's not normal in the Inn city. It's not
Speaker 1: normally at all. Right, That exposure is so important, you know,
Speaker 1: because you're only going to go as far as you
Speaker 1: think you can go, or see yourself going. So when
Speaker 1: you see other people. That's why a lot of people,
Speaker 1: you know, speak down about social media. But one of
Speaker 1: the things I like about it is it gives us,
Speaker 1: gives us a lot of access to see a lot
Speaker 1: of young black people, right, believable, and it's believable. So
Speaker 1: it's you look like me and I and I looked
Speaker 1: like you, and you're saying, hey, I came from the hood,
Speaker 1: and I see you doing really well. You're running your
Speaker 1: successful break own business, and you're you're living a beautiful
Speaker 1: home and your children, you're raising your children. You know
Speaker 1: more with more world I use, and you know to
Speaker 1: be good, upstanding citizens. And I see driving nice cards
Speaker 1: and you're traveling the world. That will be inspiring to me,
Speaker 1: and most importantly, it would make me realize that I
Speaker 1: can obtain that too. And that is so true. I
Speaker 1: always tell people I love to having an individual like
Speaker 1: you who talk about credit. And I tell people that
Speaker 1: when I was eighteen years old, Ms. Howardton, for some reason,
Speaker 1: I understood I had to have good credit. I was
Speaker 1: I wanted to protect my credit. I wanted credit. When
Speaker 1: somebody told me the credit establishes you a better life
Speaker 1: for you, I knew that, Okay, I'm gonna get good credit.
Speaker 1: I got and I got my my They're closed and
Speaker 1: I had my Montgomery Wards card back then, my Serious
Speaker 1: card back then. Then I finally upgrade and got my
Speaker 1: my American Exprest Green card. A big deal. I would this.
Speaker 1: I would dank this. That Serious card back in the
Speaker 1: day was bigger than the American Express back in the
Speaker 1: day because you got your serious car, you were you
Speaker 1: were the bar right there. So when I got that
Speaker 1: serious card, I knew my credit was hit in the
Speaker 1: right direction. What age were you when you realized the
Speaker 1: importance of credit? You you want to hear something funny,
Speaker 1: So I told you. I was raised by my dad.
Speaker 1: My dad was horrible with bills, horrible. I remember coming home,
Speaker 1: let me cut off. I'm like, Dad, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I flicked the sweats. Now we ain't got an electric
Speaker 1: over here. But it was because he just wasn't um.
Speaker 1: He wasn't conscious of just making payments on time, and
Speaker 1: it was sometimes we didn't have it, and you know,
Speaker 1: he did what he had to do to make it work.
Speaker 1: But then it was times when he did have it,
Speaker 1: and he just would forget. So I didn't learn that
Speaker 1: from my dad. I remember when I turned eight, team
Speaker 1: and a lot of we were graduating high school and
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends were going to get store
Speaker 1: cards because they were so easy to get. So they
Speaker 1: were getting like structure and Dad and m expressing all
Speaker 1: these cards, and I remember us going shopping and them
Speaker 1: just you melt max the part out and I would
Speaker 1: be very very very conscious, like, oh no, I don't
Speaker 1: want to get too much because I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want to not be able to afford the payments.
Speaker 1: So I was already thinking like that. I don't know
Speaker 1: where it came from, but I was already responsible was
Speaker 1: my finances at eight team. So now when my friends
Speaker 1: those accounts want into collection status. I continued to build
Speaker 1: and I continued to build, and at the age of
Speaker 1: twenty one, my dad gifted me a duplex. So I
Speaker 1: had a duplex at twenty one where I lived in
Speaker 1: one unit and then I've rented the other unit out,
Speaker 1: and then when I moved from there, both units were
Speaker 1: rented out and it became a source of income for me.
Speaker 1: But I always looked at finances and money and credit differently,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't even I guess it just was self taught.
Speaker 1: It was just natural for me. But it was so
Speaker 1: important to get that at that age, it really was.
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Rhodesia Howarton. She's the owner and founder
Speaker 1: of Credit Medics LLC, which is a leading national credit
Speaker 1: and business counsel consulting firm located in Philip off your
Speaker 1: p A. This is one of two comp three companies.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to her about but I wanted to
Speaker 1: expand on this because we, like she said, she was
Speaker 1: doing this before the pandemic, and it wasn't something that
Speaker 1: she just started last week. And she's been changing lives
Speaker 1: and improving credit scores and making people understand the value
Speaker 1: of credit and why credit is so important to you.
Speaker 1: But we are in the middle of the pandemic and
Speaker 1: people's credit scores are being damaged, and like you said,
Speaker 1: your dad he didn't understand the value what that meant
Speaker 1: to his credit score, but it didn't stop him from
Speaker 1: being successful. It made me just a little bit more harder.
Speaker 1: How serious should you take your credit scores? You should
Speaker 1: take your credit score is very serious. Any um credit
Speaker 1: or any line of credit that you are trying to
Speaker 1: apply for to get an approval, they are going to
Speaker 1: review your credit scores. They're going to inquire about you,
Speaker 1: which is what we call an inquiry. So anytime you
Speaker 1: apply for a line of credit, whatever that whoever that
Speaker 1: creditor is, they are going to inquire about you. What
Speaker 1: you need to understand, and it's simplest form is your
Speaker 1: credit scores and your credit report is your financial portfolio.
Speaker 1: So that is even gonna tell a credit creditor one
Speaker 1: that you are credit worthy and trustworthy enough for me
Speaker 1: to go ahead and lend you this credit based off
Speaker 1: of your existing payment history. So if you already have debt,
Speaker 1: and what do we call debt your card now, okay,
Speaker 1: if you have a cardinal, you have student loan debt,
Speaker 1: if you have a mortgage, um, if you have personal loans,
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. If you have credit cards,
Speaker 1: if you are currently late on your existing debt, and
Speaker 1: a creditor goes to pull your credit and they see that,
Speaker 1: why would they want to lend you new debt? They
Speaker 1: will not. So it's so important because that's going to
Speaker 1: determine if you get approved in that based off of
Speaker 1: your existing payment history. And the other thing would be
Speaker 1: your credit utilization, which pertains to revolving credit. So you
Speaker 1: know you mentioned early SAAR Serious card, so serious card.
Speaker 1: What would be considered as a revolving credit card. It's
Speaker 1: a retail card on dells may seez wal Mart Target.
Speaker 1: Those are considered as revolving retail store cards. And then
Speaker 1: you have your major credit cards in American Expressed master Card,
Speaker 1: Visa Discover, which is another form of revolving credit You
Speaker 1: don't want to have large balances on these credit cards.
Speaker 1: You should only be using thirty percent at max of
Speaker 1: your credit list. When you see that, you're going to
Speaker 1: see a drastic decline in your scores. So that's another
Speaker 1: thing that lenders look at to determine if they feel
Speaker 1: like they can trust you. So just imagine if you
Speaker 1: have a friend, Okay, well, let's say Rasshan, I said
Speaker 1: the correctly, Rushian Shane Rashan, Rashan. If you lent me money, right,
Speaker 1: you say, okay, I come to you, say, Rashan, can
Speaker 1: I borrow you know, a hundred dollars until next month
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna pay you back? And you say, you
Speaker 1: know what runs You're sure I'm gonna give it to you.
Speaker 1: So then I borrow the money from you. Next month comes,
Speaker 1: you don't hear from me, right, So then another month go,
Speaker 1: you don't have from me. So now you start to
Speaker 1: get word. You say, listen out of game. Wright needs
Speaker 1: your money off a good face, and he's supposed to
Speaker 1: She's supposed to give me my money back. So now
Speaker 1: our friends Sean, who is also you know, a mutual friend.
Speaker 1: I go to him and I say, Sean, can I
Speaker 1: want a hundred dollars til next month? And Sean is like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I remember Rashan telling me that I
Speaker 1: need your brow money. Let me go ask him. And
Speaker 1: Sean comes to ask you, Hey, RO needs you to
Speaker 1: tell you many. You say, man, don't you learn RO
Speaker 1: needs you no money? I don't wait three months. I
Speaker 1: ain't gotta dime yet. So that's the same way that
Speaker 1: a lender looks at your payment habit and your utilization
Speaker 1: habit to determine if they're more likely to get paid
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to money making conversations. I'm your host, Sean
Speaker 1: McDonald ll. You know I love it because that is
Speaker 1: a straight street talk right there, that street talk one
Speaker 1: on one, street talk one on one right there. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, man, and don't and don't show up and
Speaker 1: don't show up. She got some new shoes on. Don't
Speaker 1: show off. Some seafood, eat some seafood that come. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know you got some strip on your plate, you know,
Speaker 1: a pile of strip, and you owe me a hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Don't do that to me because I love that you
Speaker 1: would I wouldn't love that you were natural. That's what
Speaker 1: you're so successful because sometimes you got to talk to
Speaker 1: people in the natural form so they can understand what
Speaker 1: And that's what I do. I speak the language of
Speaker 1: my people, yes, and break it down as simple as
Speaker 1: I can. Well, okay, now, no, not right now. Our
Speaker 1: people they're struggling and during this pandemic, and then you know,
Speaker 1: the credit scores are being damaged. And we all know
Speaker 1: when you hear that word thirty percent. And sometimes I
Speaker 1: suggest people take a cash advance and you part of
Speaker 1: that canshervance to make your minialment monthly payment so your
Speaker 1: cred school don't go messed up. You put yourself on
Speaker 1: automatic payment on the minimum of my mouth, okay, and
Speaker 1: that way you you part of that advantage that you took,
Speaker 1: said it aside, so you make those minimum one payments
Speaker 1: doing this pandemic run that were your credit scores like you,
Speaker 1: you agree with you, you cannot allow your credit score
Speaker 1: to get damaged. It get damaged. You just you just
Speaker 1: defaulted into a worse situation for yourself. But how can
Speaker 1: these people survive? And when I say this, people of color,
Speaker 1: minorities you know people who are already struggling. And you know,
Speaker 1: the first of all, they gave us the twel hunt
Speaker 1: and all stimulus check, and then they gave us a
Speaker 1: six weekly check that they did July thirty one. And
Speaker 1: now that they told us that the CDC can suspend evictions.
Speaker 1: But then at the end of the year, you owe
Speaker 1: that money for the rent you didn't pay. How can
Speaker 1: we get around? You know, amagine getting caught up after
Speaker 1: you already behind right and you don't have no income.
Speaker 1: Now how crazy is that? You know how? I agree
Speaker 1: with what you said, you know that cash advance. But
Speaker 1: once again that goes back to see, here's the thing
Speaker 1: I tell people to already be prepared. One of the
Speaker 1: things that I have been blessed and fortunate to do
Speaker 1: is to always stay prepared financially, because even when things
Speaker 1: are good, I still don't go crazy. I have I
Speaker 1: have very great discipline with my finances. So although I
Speaker 1: would be you know what you would call I'm successful
Speaker 1: and I have money, I still don't spend like I
Speaker 1: have money. I don't. And I'm realizing that as I
Speaker 1: begin to hang around people who are who have their finances,
Speaker 1: their finances are stable. I'm realizing that a lot of
Speaker 1: them don't make unnecessary purchases, so you have to be prepared.
Speaker 1: But now we're in a situation so a lot of people,
Speaker 1: and I know some of my associates, they have taken
Speaker 1: that twelve hundred dollars and just blew it. They have
Speaker 1: taken the unemployment checks and I've known, I know people
Speaker 1: who have gotten ten thousand dollars and twenty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you got that money, I'm like, what
Speaker 1: are you going to do with it? And it's scoring already,
Speaker 1: but that could have helped them over just by making
Speaker 1: the minimum payment. It will hold you over so that
Speaker 1: you won't ask any late payments reporting That will decline
Speaker 1: your score. Your scores will drop anywhere between thirty to
Speaker 1: seventy points from one late payment. Wow, And can you
Speaker 1: tell them how those how those those scores are reported? Uh,
Speaker 1: not trying to complicate the conversation, but people need to
Speaker 1: know that, you know, electronically in that world, then people
Speaker 1: track you. They track you, and they track your main rabbit. Always.
Speaker 1: It always amazes me, Rhodesia when I put my credit
Speaker 1: card in and I mean, like seconds, I needs seconds
Speaker 1: later it say has approved that that even today that
Speaker 1: boggles me God that the model of computer forces tied
Speaker 1: to that is incredible that because i know, at the
Speaker 1: same same time, obtenously, I'm sure hundreds of thousand people
Speaker 1: are pushing their card in that same type of machine
Speaker 1: or card card reader and time obtainionsly and it's hitting
Speaker 1: the word approved immediately. All rejection depended on where you are.
Speaker 1: Is data. All of it is is data, and it's
Speaker 1: and it's like you said, it's tracking. Their tracking your payments,
Speaker 1: they're tracking your utilization. They're tracking even down to where
Speaker 1: you live at. You know, anytime you put on an application.
Speaker 1: I don't know if people are aware of when you
Speaker 1: pull your credit every address that you have lived at
Speaker 1: that you used to apply for something shows up on
Speaker 1: your credit report. So it's definitely attracting system. But the
Speaker 1: credit bureaus are nothing but data companies, a billion dollar industry.
Speaker 1: They get paid to collect data, to report your behalf
Speaker 1: to then sell to the bigger banks and financial institutions.
Speaker 1: That's all it is. Now one of your favorite are
Speaker 1: I could say nonprofits that you are tied to are
Speaker 1: associated with our creators called go Get crowned, tell us
Speaker 1: about why you start that work not. I have my
Speaker 1: points about actually, actually it's queening now. I changed it
Speaker 1: to queening um and I do. I do a mentorship
Speaker 1: program for young girls between the q r Q you
Speaker 1: E E N I N G yes. And I also
Speaker 1: wrote a book called Queening on Amazon. So so Queening
Speaker 1: is a non practic organization for young black women okay
Speaker 1: from the ages of fourteen to twenty one. And it's
Speaker 1: basically me giving them all of the life skills that
Speaker 1: I have acquired over the years. I'm talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: teaching them how to see money as a tool and
Speaker 1: not as just this tangible thing to just spend spend
Speaker 1: since since spend teaching them how to invest. I'm also
Speaker 1: a real estate investor, and I have several female friends
Speaker 1: that are real estate investors. I bring them in to
Speaker 1: talk to my girl so that they can see other
Speaker 1: young black success for women or minority women who because
Speaker 1: we have some Latinos also who looked like them and
Speaker 1: curse from communities where they come from, so they can
Speaker 1: see the example. I also bring in my other entrepreneur
Speaker 1: friends from different industries. So some of my girls and
Speaker 1: the start of the program will ask them, you know,
Speaker 1: what interests you do you have an idea of where
Speaker 1: you want your life to go or where you seeing yourself,
Speaker 1: where you see yourself in the next five to fifteen years.
Speaker 1: So whatever that industry is that they choose, I try
Speaker 1: to get somebody to come in from that industry to
Speaker 1: UM talk about their experience, the ups and the downs,
Speaker 1: the highs and the lows, and then also ask them
Speaker 1: if they with my mentoring my girls based off of
Speaker 1: the industry that they choose, because I feel that that's
Speaker 1: super important to to have a mentor UM. A lot
Speaker 1: of things could be prevented a lot of trial and
Speaker 1: error if you have a mentor who can help you
Speaker 1: and assist you that you have access to along your journey.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's very important. So we teach you
Speaker 1: home ownership, We talk about, you know, self esteem. We
Speaker 1: talk about African culture and the beauty of being Africans
Speaker 1: and celebrating our feature is and celebrating our culture. We
Speaker 1: talk about money management, we talk about it. That's when
Speaker 1: we talk about all different types of life things that
Speaker 1: could actually enriching you know, their lives. I'm tell you, Nicia,
Speaker 1: you're one of my favorite people. You know, we you know,
Speaker 1: you know we we we we we. We didn't connect
Speaker 1: originally on our original set time. I would maybe she
Speaker 1: don't want to talk to maybe maybe maybe you don't
Speaker 1: want to talk to Rachelle McDonald the money maker. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you got it going on, queen, Come on that you
Speaker 1: know I'm talking about Nisha Howardtons. Okay, we've already talked about.
Speaker 1: You know, one of the businesses which is a CEO.
Speaker 1: She's a CEO found up Credit Medics now the nonprofit
Speaker 1: which is mentoring. The reason I said you're one of
Speaker 1: my favorite people because that's why I established Money Making
Speaker 1: Conversation for mentoring, because I can't mentor a lot of people.
Speaker 1: People always approaching me. So I just said, I mentor
Speaker 1: you by providing you with free information. Because that's what happens.
Speaker 1: You can upload. I upload these interviews on my YouTube
Speaker 1: channel for free, upload on my website for free. All
Speaker 1: people have to do is just search and you can
Speaker 1: you can hear an incredible person like you telling them
Speaker 1: why they have to protect their credit, tell them how
Speaker 1: they can protect themselves. And also the other side of
Speaker 1: the table, they can find out about you and go
Speaker 1: to you and take advantage of your services, take advantage
Speaker 1: of what you're trying, how you're trying to change lives
Speaker 1: with this mentorship program and letting people know the empowerment
Speaker 1: of looking in the mirror, recognizing that the face that
Speaker 1: they see, the color that they see, can be successful,
Speaker 1: is beautiful, is worth standing strong, don't let the negative
Speaker 1: pull you down. And that's what you're saying with the
Speaker 1: Queenan program correctly, absolutely, absolutely, And I love the interaction
Speaker 1: with these the young women. And then so it's so
Speaker 1: it's so crazy because the mentorship that I did um
Speaker 1: three years ago. My girls in that class, two of
Speaker 1: them I have hired and they work for me. And
Speaker 1: just to see the progress in the confidence and the
Speaker 1: self esteem, by itself touches my heart. It touches my part.
Speaker 1: And just to have them up under me. One of
Speaker 1: my one of my men took min tees Um came
Speaker 1: to me. She said, miss meech, I'm ready to buy
Speaker 1: a duplex. I said, whatever I gotta do to make
Speaker 1: it happy for you, Let's do it. You know. She
Speaker 1: could say, hey, missie, I want to go buy a
Speaker 1: channel back. But this time, miss me, I want to
Speaker 1: get to but you know what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 1: touching to me. Putting that, putting that crown on your head.
Speaker 1: You know what, you got your black I'll checking you
Speaker 1: know miss credit Man, you know good that girl the
Speaker 1: queen and I like that Thilano queen e. But before
Speaker 1: we wrap up, a queen and I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about to get well urgent care, which is like a
Speaker 1: medical facility. Is that it's that part of the franchises
Speaker 1: or this an individual location that you are Actually that
Speaker 1: was just that was just an investment that came um
Speaker 1: that came up. Somebody asked me, did would I'd be
Speaker 1: interested in investing in the urgent care clinic? And at
Speaker 1: the time I didn't know anything about it, right, I
Speaker 1: honestly did not. I started to do my own research,
Speaker 1: and of course, with any of the investment, it's risky.
Speaker 1: You know. I always tell people, don't you know, invest
Speaker 1: money that you're expecting to get back, it's really a risk.
Speaker 1: Rather I mean real estate is the risk is you
Speaker 1: know less less, But in any investment is going to
Speaker 1: be risky. So I didn't know anything about it at
Speaker 1: the time, and I just felt like, hey, let me
Speaker 1: just shoot my shot. And I did it, and it
Speaker 1: was one of my friends. Her husband was actually a doctor,
Speaker 1: and he was even as a doctor, you're still an employee.
Speaker 1: And he was working for UM I think it was
Speaker 1: Pimont Medical Facility facility and what he was. He decided that,
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't want to be an employee anymore.
Speaker 1: He said, you know, I'm overseeing five of these urgent
Speaker 1: care clinics and I'm seeing these invoices. I'm seeing these
Speaker 1: invoices that I'm like, no, people, you're looking at his
Speaker 1: check n check look at that, and it's breaking down.
Speaker 1: Youre he's looking at the white folks running around here. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: making all this good money. Okay. He said, oh, they're
Speaker 1: making this, making this women, and I'm making this. So
Speaker 1: he started, you know, started women. So he decided that
Speaker 1: he wanted to do his own urgent care and he
Speaker 1: was looking for investors. And his wife was a friend
Speaker 1: of mine, and she you know, brought the opportunity to me.
Speaker 1: She said, you know, would you be willing to invest? UM.
Speaker 1: I did my research, and I just went ahead and
Speaker 1: just you know, and some of his own faiths too,
Speaker 1: you know, because you can do all the research, you want,
Speaker 1: but some of it, you know, like I said, you
Speaker 1: have to you have to sit down and go toothless
Speaker 1: tools for now. What I'm talking about this is when
Speaker 1: you say, let's let's talk about get well urgent care.
Speaker 1: First of all, it's medical and we all know, okay,
Speaker 1: people gonna die. People don't get sick. Okay, that's that's
Speaker 1: the fact of life, okay. Now, And so with that,
Speaker 1: and so the investment part of ability possibilities like ore,
Speaker 1: where are they putting it at? That's all you have
Speaker 1: to worry about. Who's running it and where are they
Speaker 1: gonna put it at? Because I've seen these urgent cares
Speaker 1: and they and they always got cars park out in
Speaker 1: front of them, okay, And that means that people need
Speaker 1: that service. And so so from a standpoint of your research, you,
Speaker 1: like you said, you're riding on the statement that I
Speaker 1: just said, people are gonna die and people are going
Speaker 1: to get sick. Okay. So with that being said, how
Speaker 1: do you participate? Are you do you go buy your facility?
Speaker 1: You're an investor? Do you check on it? Do you
Speaker 1: have board meetings or what? How do you do? I
Speaker 1: sit on the board and I'm really just a silent investor.
Speaker 1: So of course I get you know, quarterly checks based
Speaker 1: off of my sacility of equity in the company. Right
Speaker 1: now that is here. Or do we see more franchises
Speaker 1: that you will be associated with or you said rou Sean,
Speaker 1: we're gonna see how this plays out for the next
Speaker 1: one or to actual league. Um, I'm probably not going
Speaker 1: to do any more business with them right there, right there?
Speaker 1: See did I tell you? Did I she's one of
Speaker 1: my top people now because seem you cannot win being fake,
Speaker 1: you can win right there right But what I am
Speaker 1: working on, it's free times in my million dollar business,
Speaker 1: Credit Medics. Cool. Cool, that's what I'm doing. Cool. And
Speaker 1: in the process of doing that right now, trying to
Speaker 1: um create a software to make it very very very
Speaker 1: um manageable and um very easy to navigate through and
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So that's the only piece
Speaker 1: that's missing to Credit Medics, and then I will franchise
Speaker 1: my business. Well, my friend, I want to let you know, uh,
Speaker 1: I got a newsletter that goes out to my fans
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Speaker 1: I want to put you all Credit Medics in there,
Speaker 1: because like I said, you move to the top of
Speaker 1: the food chain with me because you keep read, keep
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Speaker 1: say that is that we have a lot of relatable
Speaker 1: values that I come from the inner city and and
Speaker 1: I realized that, you know, when I was exposed to
Speaker 1: information outside of the inner city, I am the person
Speaker 1: I am today. So I'm always a proponent. And also
Speaker 1: I give back. I give back in so many different ways.
Speaker 1: And like said, money, money and conversations. Just wanted the format,
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Speaker 1: is that you have a friend in Rashaan McDonald. I'm
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Speaker 1: to actually have it's like a conference area, a seminar.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Sean McDonald. My next guest, Glenn Robinson.
Speaker 1: The third is an NBA basketball player. That's what you
Speaker 1: know when you see somebody, But that's all you think.
Speaker 1: But life is more than just being an NBA basketball player.
Speaker 1: His A r I Foundation, which stands for Angels Are
Speaker 1: Really Indeed, as a nonprofit organization aimed at empowering fathers
Speaker 1: and helping create deeper bonds between fathers and their children.
Speaker 1: They're also they also provide resources to help elevate fatherless
Speaker 1: children and families. Glenn was inspired to launch his initiative
Speaker 1: after the birth of his daughter Ariana Arianna help him
Speaker 1: super saying it correctly, and wanted to shine a light
Speaker 1: on the importance of the relationship between children and their fathers.
Speaker 1: Glenn highlights fathers and their stories on his Instagram page
Speaker 1: and wants to shine and light on someday amazing work
Speaker 1: they're doing. Please work with the money making conversation, my man,
Speaker 1: Glenn Robinson, the third are you doing today? I had
Speaker 1: to get a lot out there live before I spoke
Speaker 1: to you, man, A lot, a lot, because you know
Speaker 1: the thing about it. First of all, Uh, what are you?
Speaker 1: What are you calling it from right now? I'm calling
Speaker 1: it from Indiana, Indiana, Indiana, Indiana. So I'm based in Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 1: Syndicate nationally on podcasts and all that good this series XM.
Speaker 1: The beauty of bringing an individual or what I wanted
Speaker 1: to talk to you about first of all was why
Speaker 1: they why was their need for you to do a
Speaker 1: foundation like this. I think that is uh a need
Speaker 1: you know in our community, especially our Black communities, to
Speaker 1: feel that that that for us fathers you know, first off,
Speaker 1: and to feel that fatherhood role if the father is
Speaker 1: not around, you know what, meaning just stepping up and
Speaker 1: empowering other parents, other fathers, UM doing what you can
Speaker 1: to help um. You know, our young kids grow up
Speaker 1: in today's society, I think they need all a mentorship
Speaker 1: and all the help that they need. And having a
Speaker 1: daughter myself and going through this process, you know, I
Speaker 1: just know how much my daughter means to me, and
Speaker 1: as she grows every day is important, you know. So
Speaker 1: if I'm able to help other people and just have
Speaker 1: that same type of impact in their lives and spread
Speaker 1: that that that knowledge you know, around, I think that
Speaker 1: we can we can start to have more successful communities
Speaker 1: and more successful children in our communities. That's really important
Speaker 1: that you say that. Really, I I have a daughter,
Speaker 1: uh she's only child, and just having a child in general,
Speaker 1: giving life really changed my perspective because in a way,
Speaker 1: you know, we all live a selfish life. We just
Speaker 1: want to do what's what's best for us, what's what
Speaker 1: we gotta do to get what we want. And when
Speaker 1: you have a child, that changes your value system. Talk
Speaker 1: about how to change your value system, Glenn. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: hangs a lot, you know. I think being a professional athlete,
Speaker 1: you know, I just finished my six season. Uh, I
Speaker 1: finished with the Philadelphia has haventy six is this year, um,
Speaker 1: and I'm now a free agent. But looking at how
Speaker 1: I was as a rookie and then now after six years,
Speaker 1: and you know, I have a daughter who's to um,
Speaker 1: you know, my time management changed, you know, my responsibilities
Speaker 1: obviously change, you know. UM obviously my finances and what
Speaker 1: I'm doing with my money, UM changed a lot. You know.
Speaker 1: So it matures you, and it makes you grow up,
Speaker 1: um in several different ways, you know. And I think
Speaker 1: that if it wasn't for my daughter, UM, you know,
Speaker 1: I just see how far you know back that you
Speaker 1: tend to be and you think that you know everything,
Speaker 1: but you really don't, you know, And and and you
Speaker 1: know it's funny how how that how that comes out.
Speaker 1: It really is amazing. I know that. Uh, I would
Speaker 1: tell people the the best time I have with my daughter,
Speaker 1: wouldn't she when you know, when she was about gets
Speaker 1: up to about eight months, that's when she wasn't able
Speaker 1: to push off. Then they started pushing off. Then also
Speaker 1: they think they ruled the world. But when she was
Speaker 1: just falling asleep on my chests and you know, laying
Speaker 1: next to me and just just barely you know you
Speaker 1: use proper upland and then they leaned on one side
Speaker 1: because they didn't I mean also control to me, man,
Speaker 1: those those memories stick with me. Man, that all the
Speaker 1: memories stick with me, but that memory of it just
Speaker 1: being able to fall asleep on my chest and and
Speaker 1: lay next to me, and just realizing that how much
Speaker 1: power I have, and shaping a mind, how much power
Speaker 1: I have, and delivering a good person to this world.
Speaker 1: I'm sure when I read your intro and I read
Speaker 1: the research on you, it really almost messed you up
Speaker 1: a little in a good way. The responsibility. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah it did. Uh. You know, first off, I thought
Speaker 1: I was, you know, obviously being a basketball player. You know,
Speaker 1: I thought my first kid was gonna be a boy.
Speaker 1: You know, we were gonna play basketball. You know, I
Speaker 1: thought that it was gonna be all my way, you know,
Speaker 1: and and and and God and life got a funny
Speaker 1: sense of humor and you know how you really expected
Speaker 1: and you know, and and my biggest blessing in my life,
Speaker 1: that's been my daughter, I think, just because of the
Speaker 1: alleys that I've been able to create, you know, surrounding her.
Speaker 1: And that's the reason why I started the foundation is um,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't have a boy, you know, my
Speaker 1: last name in a sense, you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: men tend to worry about that, you know, And I
Speaker 1: think that I just wanted to show her my genuine
Speaker 1: love and create something that she'll see and look back
Speaker 1: one day and she'll pick up this foundation because it's
Speaker 1: named after her already, and she'll she'll realize, you know,
Speaker 1: what we've created, and how many people that we've helped,
Speaker 1: you know, and growing up and and as she grows, Um,
Speaker 1: I do have that influence on her life. And I think,
Speaker 1: like you said, that's the biggest thing that we can
Speaker 1: control as parents, is you know, we we do have
Speaker 1: a lot of influence in their lives. As they tend
Speaker 1: to get older, you know, so that, um, they're going
Speaker 1: in the right path, you know, whether that's racism, whether
Speaker 1: that's schooling and education, whether that's you know, career paths,
Speaker 1: whatever that is. I think that they contend to kind
Speaker 1: of put put themselves on a decent past if they
Speaker 1: have that influence around me. We know, we're talking about
Speaker 1: changing people's lives. We're talking about controlling destiny. And you
Speaker 1: know this season you played for the Philadelphia seventy sixers
Speaker 1: and you got to experience the bubble down in Orlando, Florida,
Speaker 1: and basically you didn't have control of your life anymore
Speaker 1: at that point, I believe. Can you tell everybody I
Speaker 1: had cg Color alone that last week and he had
Speaker 1: me laughing just talking about how I was from your perspective,
Speaker 1: and tell us that this walk us through the steps
Speaker 1: of how controlled the testing process of living life in
Speaker 1: the bubble. If there was some good thing, tell us
Speaker 1: about it, the annoying things you can tell about, tell
Speaker 1: us about it, because you had no control of your
Speaker 1: life at that point. Glenn. Yeah, you know, I think
Speaker 1: the hardest decision was, you know, they gave us a choice,
Speaker 1: do we want to go or not? You know, do
Speaker 1: you want to receive your paycheck and go to this bubble.
Speaker 1: And we didn't know anything much about the virus at
Speaker 1: that point, and we didn't know anything what this bubble
Speaker 1: was gonna be like. So I had to make the
Speaker 1: decision to lead my two year old daughter, which was hard,
Speaker 1: but you know, I didn't want to leave my teammates down. Um.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go do my job. I want to
Speaker 1: go try to win a championship. And then my main
Speaker 1: concern concern was just staying. Say, you know, so if
Speaker 1: we had to test every day, that's what we had
Speaker 1: to do, even though, like you said, it wasn'tnoying, but um,
Speaker 1: we test literally every day for the coronavirus um. And
Speaker 1: they would stick the Q tip up your nose, um,
Speaker 1: and they would swab us mouth and and nose every
Speaker 1: single day. Um. You know, the first two days there
Speaker 1: we were in quarantine. You couldn't leave your rooms, and
Speaker 1: they would bang on your door and just drop your food,
Speaker 1: you know, at your door, and you will open it.
Speaker 1: Nobody would be there. You grab your door and close it.
Speaker 1: You grab your food and close the door and then
Speaker 1: open you up your box lunch or boxes dinner, you know.
Speaker 1: And that was the first two days they sprinting down
Speaker 1: the hall you COVID natine not even on the hallway
Speaker 1: no more. If it was there, That's that's funny, man,
Speaker 1: you know. But my overall experience, I think it was
Speaker 1: a lot better than I thought it was gonna be. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, the food got better. They started opening up
Speaker 1: things for us such, you know, such with Gough, Um
Speaker 1: we could go. You know, they had a pool for us,
Speaker 1: you know, allowance for us, um, a bar for us.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a lot of different things, a barbershop. Um,
Speaker 1: so there was. Life started to get a little bit
Speaker 1: better after day probably thirty year around there. But I
Speaker 1: was I was trapped in there for forty five days
Speaker 1: before we lost and and and we exited out and
Speaker 1: came home. M But that was an experience that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell my daughter about my grandkids about. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot a lot of people won't be able to
Speaker 1: experience that. And I'm just thankful that I came out
Speaker 1: of it healthy and and and still you know, remain
Speaker 1: the same and so so and so far, no one's
Speaker 1: tested positive for COVID eighteen at the NBA bubble. They haven't,
Speaker 1: you know, And I think that that's the only way
Speaker 1: that you can do is if you're gonna have sports,
Speaker 1: you have to do it in the forum that they did,
Speaker 1: and it was hard to do. It was strict, and
Speaker 1: they spent a lot of money, I think a hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty million to keep us safe. But I think
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do it, you have to do it
Speaker 1: like that. If you want to keep people safe, well,
Speaker 1: the more important thing is that just like me, Glenn,
Speaker 1: I'm speaking to Glenn Robinson, the third UH. He's plays
Speaker 1: currently for the Philadelphia seventy sixers. The name sounds familiar.
Speaker 1: He has a father father, University of Mixican shop shooting dad.
Speaker 1: I remember their run. I remember that run. Man, oh boy,
Speaker 1: I tell when they run and then it came to NBA. Man,
Speaker 1: I just hate that shot, man, I hate it. And
Speaker 1: it's like Steph Curry shot, you know when it goes
Speaker 1: up and like how could he miss? Type shot? And
Speaker 1: that was your father's gift and you followed your father
Speaker 1: was It wasn't an option that Glenn to not play basketball.
Speaker 1: Can you play tennis? Can you play for my wide receiver?
Speaker 1: Been the next Julius Joe Julian June well, I can
Speaker 1: think of his name right there, being a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: What were your options there? Brother? He he just looked
Speaker 1: at you put a ball in your hand when you
Speaker 1: can basketball in your hand. That was it, what was apting.
Speaker 1: It's funny I tell people story of the time I
Speaker 1: was born premature. So I was born three months early,
Speaker 1: and I was months in the incubator, and my dad
Speaker 1: and mom put a little produced you know, they put
Speaker 1: a little mini basketball and my incubator when I was young.
Speaker 1: So I like to tell everybody, I've been playing ball
Speaker 1: since I was since I was an incubator six months.
Speaker 1: But no, you know, that was one of the things
Speaker 1: I was always grateful for my mom and dad, especially
Speaker 1: my dad being a number one pick um, you know,
Speaker 1: in ninety four and really being a man that in
Speaker 1: that air. Um. He never forced it on me. You know,
Speaker 1: I played football growing up. I played other sports growing up,
Speaker 1: but I fell in love with basketball, and I followed
Speaker 1: his footsteps in that sense. But you know, um, I
Speaker 1: think that I've always tried to remain you know, a
Speaker 1: different person, you know, and not just follow his footsteps,
Speaker 1: but create different paths, you know, throughout my career to
Speaker 1: kind of separate me. And you know, he never had
Speaker 1: a foundation, Um, but he did give back to the
Speaker 1: kids again Indiana where we're from, and what holds a
Speaker 1: free basketball camp every year. Um. So I continue to
Speaker 1: do that, that same thing, and on top of that,
Speaker 1: I'm doing my foundation. Angels are real indeed who were
Speaker 1: helping empower other father So I try to take what
Speaker 1: he's done and model his example, but also continue to
Speaker 1: make it better and elevate it even more and reach
Speaker 1: even more people, because, um, the more people we can reach,
Speaker 1: even if it's just a few kids, who knows how
Speaker 1: their lives will change. You know, I'm glad. Uh, I'm
Speaker 1: enjoying this interview with you. Your your very unique voice,
Speaker 1: and and you just happen to be able to dribble
Speaker 1: a little basketball, okay, and and I respect. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you I'm one of the little You know,
Speaker 1: everybody thinks they can play bad, but I can really
Speaker 1: play ball. But I was one of them hard headed people.
Speaker 1: I thought the coach is gonna eventually come to a
Speaker 1: neighborhood park see me and tell me I can start.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go out there practice they were
Speaker 1: I was that arrogant you know, I was as I was,
Speaker 1: as the neighbor would say, I was all Park gLing,
Speaker 1: I was all Park. I was a bad boy and
Speaker 1: uh and so. But you know, when I look at
Speaker 1: the NBA and I look at the ability to play
Speaker 1: an NBA, man, that's special man. You know, that's that's
Speaker 1: a unique talent. What does it take to be uh
Speaker 1: uh NBA player? Because I from a mindset standpoint, from
Speaker 1: a physical standpoint, I knew what I could do. But
Speaker 1: I know I didn't have the ability because first of all,
Speaker 1: I didn't have the discipline to be an NBA player
Speaker 1: because I wouldn't even I wouldn't even audition or going
Speaker 1: for the basketball practice because I thought I was better
Speaker 1: than everybody else. So what does it take to be
Speaker 1: an NBA player? Yeah, I think the biggest things that
Speaker 1: I've noticed, and like we talked about, I just finished
Speaker 1: my sixth season in the NBA. So you know, for
Speaker 1: whatever it's worth, you know, I've been able to stick
Speaker 1: in this league after seeing a lot of people come
Speaker 1: in and out the league. I was drafted second I
Speaker 1: was drafted second round, and it's only a small percentage
Speaker 1: of players that I'm gonna tell you something when you
Speaker 1: went pro. I was mad at you. I was mad
Speaker 1: at you. I was like, what is he doing? What
Speaker 1: is't he was a good busio team too? What do
Speaker 1: you continue with? I just want to get that out years.
Speaker 1: I was young, you know, I had just turned twenties,
Speaker 1: you know, but and I had no idea about the
Speaker 1: whole business. But um, you know, I think after being
Speaker 1: around now for a few years, Um, what really separates
Speaker 1: you know, NBA players and a lot of players that
Speaker 1: I've seen, and um, discipline and all those things that
Speaker 1: you've said. But just to break it down to simple terms,
Speaker 1: is whatever you got going on in your life, whether
Speaker 1: as women, whether that's finance issues, its family issues, kids,
Speaker 1: whatever that's going on in your life, you have to
Speaker 1: find some way. When you were able to come onto
Speaker 1: the court everything that happens in those lines, you're able
Speaker 1: to take your discipline and your hard work and you're
Speaker 1: able to turn it into success by focusing and locking in.
Speaker 1: You know, when when when this distractions out there and
Speaker 1: you're not able to focus your mind, um, it can
Speaker 1: really mess you up. You know. And NBA players and
Speaker 1: athletes in general, we already got a lot going on
Speaker 1: the money that's thrown at us people. That's thrown at us. Um.
Speaker 1: And and that discipline is what you have to have. Well,
Speaker 1: you know I've been uh, but I participate in the
Speaker 1: high level, as we say, in the entertainment game. So
Speaker 1: I know discipline is important because it does come to you.
Speaker 1: It always amazes me how I'm financially able to do
Speaker 1: a lot of things, but I get free meals, I
Speaker 1: can get discount on my clothes, and my wife just
Speaker 1: looks at me to go, really, really, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be fu and uh. And because I always make a
Speaker 1: point of now I got you, I gotta I paid
Speaker 1: when I go in because it's because I'm an entrepreneur.
Speaker 1: So I know being an entrepreneur, you know you have
Speaker 1: to be with respect people and and tell them that
Speaker 1: their brain has value. And so when I look at
Speaker 1: you and and and this conversation the first time we
Speaker 1: ever talked. But I as a as a person who
Speaker 1: talks to a lot of people, Glenn, Um, I'm a
Speaker 1: fan just just this conversation, and I want to maintain
Speaker 1: a relationship with you because your your your your success
Speaker 1: and your your your brand is beyond the court. It's
Speaker 1: beyond the court. Man. I don't know if anybody told
Speaker 1: you that, but just hearing how you talk, you know
Speaker 1: you God just gave you the gift, your gift at
Speaker 1: someplace else, brother, and you just need to find it
Speaker 1: and hold on to it and get the right people
Speaker 1: around you. And I'm not telling you to quick the NBA.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you this. This foundation, you know, uh
Speaker 1: that you started. The mission is to empower fathers with
Speaker 1: their central resources that will allow them to be the
Speaker 1: best dads they can be. We will also provide assistance
Speaker 1: to fatherless children and families. Tell us about that part,
Speaker 1: providing assistance to fatherless children and families. How does that work?
Speaker 1: Glenn Robinson the third Yeah, when I first, you know,
Speaker 1: started my foundation, Uh, I was playing for the Warriors
Speaker 1: at the beginning of this year, and uh, there was
Speaker 1: a there was a family in my building who had
Speaker 1: just one day they placed off a lottery. Uh. They
Speaker 1: didn't have, you know, very much money. Uh they they
Speaker 1: they you know, income wasn't very high. What paint for
Speaker 1: rent was very low because they wanted to do a lottery. Um,
Speaker 1: but she couldn't get in the door. I was just
Speaker 1: moving in as well, and myself and my brother here
Speaker 1: you're younger than me three hundred pounds, big dude. You
Speaker 1: know he he actually played football, I hope. So, so
Speaker 1: we helped this lady out. Her name was miss c
Speaker 1: C and um, she broke down to the front desk, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, thank you to Glenn and Jelyn for for
Speaker 1: the help, and would love to cook for them one day. Um.
Speaker 1: So we ended up going in and to her spot
Speaker 1: and she cooked us food, fried chicken mac and cheese.
Speaker 1: I hadn't had a home, couldn't meal in a while,
Speaker 1: you know, I wrote a lot. That's a meal, you
Speaker 1: fried chicken mac and you're already starting at the at
Speaker 1: the at the they said that the at the core
Speaker 1: of good home cook meal right there, brother exactly. So
Speaker 1: so we were getting ready to eat, and my brother
Speaker 1: and I we sit down and she just had two chairs. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, to to just patio picnic chairs. Um, and
Speaker 1: you know we ate. And after that, my brother lived
Speaker 1: at me and he was like, you know, you've been
Speaker 1: talking about this foundation. I think the first family. I
Speaker 1: think the perfect opportunity would be to help them. Um,
Speaker 1: you gotta get them a table at least. And I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, you're right, and we went.
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks later. I surprised her, told her
Speaker 1: that we were gonna help get lunch. I was gonna
Speaker 1: take her out. Um. She does her husband, she's actually
Speaker 1: been involved in you know, domestic violence. She has two children, UM,
Speaker 1: no father involved in the house. And she's worked two
Speaker 1: or three jobs her you know, their whole lives. Um.
Speaker 1: And spend her last thirty dollars to prepare that meal
Speaker 1: for my brother. Not because we watched her hitting the house. UM,
Speaker 1: and I told her we were gonna go get some lunch. UM.
Speaker 1: I furnished her whole apartment twenty six pieces of furniture.
Speaker 1: And they were sleeping on the ground, all three of them.
Speaker 1: And they now got bed to sleep on that night. UM.
Speaker 1: And she she just called me the other day. And
Speaker 1: her son just became a father, and she's now a grandmother.
Speaker 1: And I still maintain that relationship. And UM, those are
Speaker 1: the type of families, UM, that we that we help
Speaker 1: when we talk about fatherless children, and and and and
Speaker 1: her son. UM actually told me that I'm the reason
Speaker 1: why he wanted to get a job. He went and
Speaker 1: got h He just started as an electrician. Um. He's
Speaker 1: on a path of success and as a father. So
Speaker 1: those those stories and those type of things that we
Speaker 1: do that mean a lot more than, like you said,
Speaker 1: anything that I can do on the basketball court. I'm
Speaker 1: able to help that family take them basically from off
Speaker 1: the streets. And now that because I spent a couple
Speaker 1: of thousand dollars, you know, on them, not even a
Speaker 1: lot of money, but to get them in a decent
Speaker 1: bed at night. That's what it's about. You're listening to
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Speaker 1: you know it's really interesting, man, because I've been fortunate
Speaker 1: to change people's lives, you know, with with emotional assistance,
Speaker 1: physical assistance, financial assistance. And people just want to let
Speaker 1: you know that they're human, that's all. And once you
Speaker 1: can remove, uh, you know, a layer of embarrassment, and
Speaker 1: that's sleeping on the floor of the lawyer embarrassment. Uh
Speaker 1: old gona close that you got to wear the school,
Speaker 1: the wear of the work or a lawyer of embarrassment.
Speaker 1: It allows you to focus on who you really are
Speaker 1: and can be. And that's what you did for them.
Speaker 1: But you know, you allow them to walk into that
Speaker 1: apartment not stressed, to walk out feeling good because they
Speaker 1: felt like humans again. And and that that's why, that's
Speaker 1: why I was just when I when I when this
Speaker 1: interview with scheduled. You know, they they you know, we
Speaker 1: have a meeting all the time, Glenn, who who are
Speaker 1: gonna bring? What? What did he do? Because I'm not
Speaker 1: just gonna bring black basketball players on my show. And
Speaker 1: they that did my research and I went wow wow,
Speaker 1: But what what is impressing me more is you? Though?
Speaker 1: Is you? What? What's what's what's the driving force of you?
Speaker 1: Because a foundation is what it is. But the success
Speaker 1: of the foundation is the the is the leader, the founder,
Speaker 1: the person who wakes up thing. Anybody go to sleep
Speaker 1: thinking about trying to make it big or try to
Speaker 1: try to try to save more people than sometimes you
Speaker 1: umtually you know, you can only put your arms around
Speaker 1: so many people at one time. Sometimes we try to
Speaker 1: trying to try to expand and hurt your back. So
Speaker 1: before you hurt your back, man, tell us about you. Man,
Speaker 1: tell us about you. Man. Yeah, I mean, I uh,
Speaker 1: you know everything that I got, you know, I've seen, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, my dad was successful. He had you know,
Speaker 1: money and cars and things like that, But that never
Speaker 1: was my purpose or what drove me because I've seen
Speaker 1: that and I was fortunate enough to see that with him.
Speaker 1: But I grew up in the house with my mom
Speaker 1: and my grandma. My grandma's from Mississippi, you know, my
Speaker 1: mama and grandma. Currently they still live, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: close to Gary, Indiana. So we met West people and
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they care about who
Speaker 1: are you as a person rather than whatever else that's
Speaker 1: going on. Is at the end of the day, when
Speaker 1: I look at myself in the mirror, what have I done?
Speaker 1: Who am I as a person? And I feel and
Speaker 1: as I walked through just finding my purpose, I know
Speaker 1: that I don't know my I don't I feel like
Speaker 1: I don't know my exact purpose or mission yet, but
Speaker 1: it's coming and through this foundation, like you said, Um,
Speaker 1: I've realized that, you know, it's about helping the masses
Speaker 1: of amount of people. From what I do as a
Speaker 1: professional athlete. You know, I'm able to take you know,
Speaker 1: my six years experience as an athlete and able to
Speaker 1: talk to kids, able to help fathers, you know, different
Speaker 1: alleys of people that I can reach. Um, and affecting
Speaker 1: people's lives. That's just who I am in and since
Speaker 1: I was first in the league, you know, I would
Speaker 1: find kids to kind of help out here and there,
Speaker 1: or go to the hospital and visit the sick kids
Speaker 1: and play video games with them. It's just been who
Speaker 1: I am. And I found a way to create a
Speaker 1: team around my foundation and we meet weekly on different
Speaker 1: ideas that I have a different you know, suggestions that
Speaker 1: they might have a families to help. So I put
Speaker 1: a real structure around this because I know that I
Speaker 1: take from being a father and having my daughter and
Speaker 1: um me just being in her life as a blessing.
Speaker 1: So you know, I want to be able to take
Speaker 1: that and help others to just be that role and
Speaker 1: kind of model figure for them, because you know, they
Speaker 1: look at professional athletes and a lot of people do
Speaker 1: at superheroes and this and that. But like you said,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we're the same as you.
Speaker 1: We put our pants on, the same thing as everybody else.
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Speaker 1: I get to beat you man, I'm going like this
Speaker 1: brother here, man, if this brother like because I'm trying
Speaker 1: to this is how this is how I think. Man,
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Speaker 1: When I was managing Steve Harvey, uh never you know,
Speaker 1: and uh you know he's to spend his money. He
Speaker 1: he's a brag about it. I spend my money on
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Speaker 1: if you want to give myself number. Anytime you have
Speaker 1: a good or bad thought, you called me. Okay, this
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Speaker 1: you don't even know who I am, google me. Brother.
Speaker 1: All I do is make people famous. All I do
Speaker 1: is make corporations a lot of money. Because I think
Speaker 1: that's my skill. That's you know, when I was eighteen
Speaker 1: years old, I realized that was my gift. I just
Speaker 1: didn't then't understand it until I was in my authorities.
Speaker 1: I just always used word like I'm just at the
Speaker 1: right place at the right time. I'm just lucky like that.
Speaker 1: And then I realized, you know, that's what you do.
Speaker 1: You know, that's what you that's your gift. You're able
Speaker 1: to look at things and evaluate people and really push
Speaker 1: them to lenings and give a clear understanding of what
Speaker 1: they can do with their lives because so many people don't,
Speaker 1: you know, because you know, they've been told what they're
Speaker 1: supposed to do. Like and I was, I was told
Speaker 1: to go to college. I got to college, which was
Speaker 1: truly a blessing for me. But I realized that wasn't
Speaker 1: what and my degree is in mathematics, and I went
Speaker 1: to work like I was told. I went to work
Speaker 1: for IBM. Then I realized, this ain't what I want
Speaker 1: to do. This ain't what I want to do. And
Speaker 1: so so I'm listening to you. You're successful as NBA player.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you right now. I don't during how
Speaker 1: many teams you've been on because you're in the n
Speaker 1: b A. You played in the n b A. I
Speaker 1: know how hard it is. The D league is full
Speaker 1: of people want to be you, you know, and so
Speaker 1: and so so. But then what is bigger than that?
Speaker 1: You know. Look, as great as Lebron is what he
Speaker 1: does away for the league, I respect way more, way
Speaker 1: more because I know God gave him the ability to dribble,
Speaker 1: to dunk, the i Q, to be able to be
Speaker 1: the best basketball player in the world. But everything else,
Speaker 1: he's thinking about everything else you're thinking about, Glenn, that
Speaker 1: wasn't part of the equation when people were telling you
Speaker 1: what you were supposed to do, telling you what you
Speaker 1: were capable of doing. This is something that you have
Speaker 1: matriculated through life and said this is who I want
Speaker 1: to be, This is what I want to represent this
Speaker 1: and and it was borne out by the birth of
Speaker 1: your daughter. Man, I'm telling him, I'm inspired talking to you, brother,
Speaker 1: and believe me, I've done a lot for you to
Speaker 1: be inspiring me. Appreciate that's here and I appreciate you
Speaker 1: having me here today. Well, the thing is is that
Speaker 1: man to be successful, Glenn, And that's what money making
Speaker 1: conversations all about. His creating relationships people here this and
Speaker 1: and then hear our conversation and your fan bras who
Speaker 1: hopefully great some more followers. But more importantly, it's creating
Speaker 1: relationships and creating a brain awareness of who is exactly
Speaker 1: is Glenn Robinson the third beyond basketball and beyond basketball,
Speaker 1: you're a person who cares about making other people's lives
Speaker 1: better that are not directly tied to you. They're not
Speaker 1: your cousins, ain't your aunt, nature sustain your brother, ain't
Speaker 1: your child or your girlfriend or your wife. They're just
Speaker 1: people that you know need a helping hand. And we
Speaker 1: were at the University of Michigan, my brother, there are
Speaker 1: a lot of people over there with that can help
Speaker 1: you with this because it's it's phenomenal and you are
Speaker 1: very articulate man. And you can talk. Brother. I don't
Speaker 1: know if anybody told you, but you can talk. Man.
Speaker 1: You know you just need to go and realize what
Speaker 1: I just told you and just keep talking. Glynn, Just
Speaker 1: keep talking, brother, I'm keep talking. Brother. I'm telling you, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm way impressed with you. Brother, I do so if
Speaker 1: you don't have to drill another basketball, if you keep talking,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be making way more money just because your
Speaker 1: ability to talk than your ability to drible. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna tell you that, believe that bleed up the passion
Speaker 1: that I hear and the ability to articulate who you
Speaker 1: could be in life. You are impressive. Man. I I
Speaker 1: can I can only say that to you verbally because
Speaker 1: of the fact that you have to believe that yourself.
Speaker 1: You have to wow man. Man, I tell you I
Speaker 1: love this show. I love I love I love reading
Speaker 1: what they said A diamond and the rough. You see
Speaker 1: your diamond and the rough? Brother. I just look. No,
Speaker 1: You'll be walking around and you see something just sparkle
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Speaker 1: I love you, Man, I love your brother. Angels are real, indeed,
Speaker 1: man helping fathers become barrel in fatherhood and helping families
Speaker 1: without one. Founded by Glenn Robinson the Third Glenn, my man,
Speaker 1: I'm telling your brother, as God is my witness, You're
Speaker 1: gonna make way more money talking than drippling in your
Speaker 1: life because you care about people and you want to
Speaker 1: make a difference in people's lives. And it all starts
Speaker 1: with your ability to think and articulate. And you do
Speaker 1: it very well. You just haven't accepted it yet. Accepted. Man,
Speaker 1: Gonna go for it, brother, gonna go for it. You
Speaker 1: walk on that damn University music camping with a with
Speaker 1: an E p K and a sizzle real and walk
Speaker 1: out of there with several millions of dollars. Brother, No
Speaker 1: more spending your money, no more, no more, no more,
Speaker 1: no more, no more. Let's stay in touch. We appreciate
Speaker 1: everything and it's a pleasure. Okay. Man, Again, I didn't,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't just utter those words so I
Speaker 1: can just sweat on on the microphone these words so
Speaker 1: you can give it. Alright, Brother, I want to thank
Speaker 1: you for coming on this show, Glenn, and we were
Speaker 1: will be in touch man, because like I tell you, man,
Speaker 1: to hear somebody like you talk and you're young because
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't figure out, because I didn't figure
Speaker 1: out my my success path until I was in my forties.
Speaker 1: And believe me, I had a lot of Mercedes bends
Speaker 1: and a lot of big houses along the way, a
Speaker 1: lot of good times and a lot of times I
Speaker 1: wish I wouldn't have participated in. But they were all
Speaker 1: good memories right now, because when you get old, all
Speaker 1: you can live off your memories. Okay, but uh, but again,
Speaker 1: my brother, thank you for coming on money making conversations. Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: thanks a lot. I appreciate some time. Yeah, get my
Speaker 1: contact information we can hook up. But but again, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put you your whole or your whole squag in
Speaker 1: my not this week's but next Wednesday's newsletter. And uh,
Speaker 1: just to get the word out, man, I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: Glenn Robin the third fan. We're gonna get these angels
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Speaker 1: the way, it's outstanding. We're gonna get it off. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be on fire. Man. I'm just telling me, you're
Speaker 1: walking around two many millionaires. Brother, be spending your own money. Now,
Speaker 1: stop that. Stop that today. Okay, we're good, brother. We
Speaker 1: talked soon. Man, go bye. Okay. If you want to
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