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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host, Rashan McDonald.
Speaker 1: I want to hear from you today like I want
Speaker 1: to hear from you every day, because I recognize that
Speaker 1: we all have different definitions of success. For you, it
Speaker 1: may be decides of your paycheck. Mine has inspiring you
Speaker 1: to accomplish your goals and live your very best life.
Speaker 1: It's time to start reading other people's success stories and
Speaker 1: start living your own. People always talk about what you
Speaker 1: cannot do and what you should do, and don't let
Speaker 1: your friends, family, or co worker stop you from planning
Speaker 1: or living your dreams. This show is for you. So
Speaker 1: welcome to money Making Come Station master Class. My guests
Speaker 1: on the show is Bobby cart Right Junior, the executive
Speaker 1: producer of Gospel Superfest Live in Columbus, Ohio, Gospel Superfest, Holiday,
Speaker 1: Gospel Superfess Easter Jam. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations Masterclass.
Speaker 1: Bobby cart Right, Julia, how you doing, Bobby A. Rashan,
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Thanks for being platient with my
Speaker 1: technical simy to get on your today. I will spreading
Speaker 1: the word of the Lord. I got to be a
Speaker 1: singing the word of the Lord, a praise of the
Speaker 1: Word of the Lord. I have to be patient tell
Speaker 1: us about this upcoming event. But before we go there,
Speaker 1: I apologize. Talk about the history of those of these
Speaker 1: superfest events that you've been putting together for years. Well, well,
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight, I got a vision from the
Speaker 1: Lord in my sleep and the Lord showed me Gospel
Speaker 1: Superfessuh in a vision, and I was like, oh, Lord,
Speaker 1: this is too much work, and I could not sleep
Speaker 1: for days. I kept telling my wife the Lord's giving
Speaker 1: me something big. He's giving me something big, and she said, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's big. Just let me go to sleep please, you know,
Speaker 1: I said, no, you don't understand, honey, this is going
Speaker 1: to be big. And she said okay. And so I
Speaker 1: couldn't sleep until I started planning the first one. It
Speaker 1: was like a burning And so the Lord gave me
Speaker 1: the day. They gave me June ninth, tenth and eleven,
Speaker 1: the year two thousand. That was the year when the
Speaker 1: computers were going to crash, the Chinese were going to
Speaker 1: attack Y two K. We didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 1: We had never seen two zero zero anything. It was
Speaker 1: nineteen always nineteen something. And so I decided this was
Speaker 1: going to be the granddaddy of them all three day
Speaker 1: festival in Louisville, Kentucky, and we invited thirty something acts
Speaker 1: to come, and to my surprise, they all came. And
Speaker 1: I mean, we had the Who's Who's the Gospel back
Speaker 1: there twenty three years ago, and we did the first
Speaker 1: one and we almost lost our shirts since you in
Speaker 1: the first one. And then we did the second, when
Speaker 1: then we did the third, when then we did the fourth,
Speaker 1: and they kept going. And now we've just finished the
Speaker 1: twentieth Gospel Superfest and through that time period, we've been
Speaker 1: syndicated for twenty three consecutive years on domestic syndication, reaching
Speaker 1: eighty percent of the country with five one hour specials
Speaker 1: a quarter, actually five one hour specials a year. And
Speaker 1: on top of that, I was telling a gentleman the
Speaker 1: other day, a gospel superfest has played on every major
Speaker 1: black cable network in the United States, from b ET,
Speaker 1: the TV One to Bounce to Aspire to the Byron
Speaker 1: Allen's Agrio. In some form of fashion, we've delivered content
Speaker 1: to all of those black networks while simultaneously being in
Speaker 1: domestic syndication on ABC, NBC, and Fox affiliates around the country.
Speaker 1: But all of that comes as we were novices and
Speaker 1: just obeying, you know, the word of the Lord of
Speaker 1: Being what he told us to do, and we just,
Speaker 1: you know, year after year after year, compiled knowledge and
Speaker 1: year after year after year created relationships and now this
Speaker 1: particular year we've been picked up by b ET. So
Speaker 1: it's just a miracle really well, you know, it's a
Speaker 1: consistency because alone that ride how we met was when
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey and I were doing the BT Celebration of Gospel.
Speaker 1: Because that time, right after you started in two thousand
Speaker 1: and we did it for thirteen straight years and gets
Speaker 1: what you still doing it. So I commend you because
Speaker 1: the journey is about effort. A journey is about consistency.
Speaker 1: Now unity media, Which came first? Did the did the
Speaker 1: Gospel Superfest come first? Or did your production company started
Speaker 1: by you and your wife come first? Well, the production
Speaker 1: company come first. I'm glad that you asked that, because
Speaker 1: that's an interesting story. I was a station manager of
Speaker 1: a for AM radio station and then Cincinnati. I was
Speaker 1: the morning morning drift host to the janitor or the
Speaker 1: pd with it. When you got a little small daytimes
Speaker 1: day what you call the daytime, or where you can
Speaker 1: hear it in the day, you better can hear it
Speaker 1: in the night when the signal goes down. I was
Speaker 1: running a radio station in Cincinnati in the late nineties
Speaker 1: and so the manager of the owner, he wanted to
Speaker 1: get out of it, he wanted to sell, and he
Speaker 1: offered it to me, and I was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is too much work. I said that same thing again,
Speaker 1: AM station. I knew every pastor's cars, Mercedes, I got
Speaker 1: my business cards. What I'm trying to get him fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes of airtime selling, you know, AM Christian Radio, And
Speaker 1: I said, oh, you know, I want to get out
Speaker 1: of this. So I went home and I told my
Speaker 1: wife that John had offered me the station and I
Speaker 1: told him no, and she said, why did you tell
Speaker 1: him no? Go back and tell him we wanted. Well,
Speaker 1: she don't do no work at the state. I'm doing
Speaker 1: all the work. And so I went back to John
Speaker 1: and I told him, I said, okay, you know I
Speaker 1: talked to my wife. We want to try to give
Speaker 1: it a shot. Well, before we formed a company, Unity Media,
Speaker 1: we got an investor gave us a few things, you know,
Speaker 1: a few thousand dollars whatever, and we got to the
Speaker 1: point where we were getting ready to get the radio
Speaker 1: station and we got out bid. So somebody that was
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to get too in the
Speaker 1: weeds with someone who was under me at the station
Speaker 1: that I was their manager, ended up putting a group
Speaker 1: together and they outbid me. They got the station. So
Speaker 1: so I went back to my investors and I said, well,
Speaker 1: I gotta give you guys your money back because we
Speaker 1: didn't we lost the station. They said, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we weren't investing in the station. We were investing in you.
Speaker 1: So you figure it out. But we don't. We don't
Speaker 1: want our money back. And so then so we started consulting.
Speaker 1: So at that point we started, you know, picking up
Speaker 1: clients is just telling them how to run their stations.
Speaker 1: You know what consultants do. We supposedly know it all.
Speaker 1: And so so I changed it into a consultant firm
Speaker 1: and start consulting low power TV stations and a run
Speaker 1: across the station that was a black owned WB affiliate.
Speaker 1: You didn't remember Able the Frog and all of that,
Speaker 1: and these business guys bought this station but didn't know
Speaker 1: how to run it. So I basically talked my way
Speaker 1: into a job. I said, look, I've been doing radio.
Speaker 1: I said, there's really no difference when one spot's got
Speaker 1: pictures in one spot doesn't have pictures. I believe I
Speaker 1: can handle this for you. So I came in as
Speaker 1: a consultant slash general manager of a low power TV
Speaker 1: station that had cable carriage. And that was my first
Speaker 1: step into television. So as I was the general manager
Speaker 1: and all of that people were the syndicators like Don
Speaker 1: Cornelius and Byron Allen and all of those folks were
Speaker 1: trying to get our markets. So they would come to
Speaker 1: me to get Dayton, Ohio just Market fifty three at
Speaker 1: the time, and I would have to sign off on
Speaker 1: their contracts. So I was like, okay, I tell my secretary,
Speaker 1: I'll signed that contract, but make another copy of it
Speaker 1: and put it on my desk and I'll look at
Speaker 1: it later. So I started studying all of the syndicators
Speaker 1: and what they were doing and how they were syndicating
Speaker 1: their shows, and basically, to be completely honest with you,
Speaker 1: I duplicated that and then I took Gospel Superfast and
Speaker 1: modeled it after Soul Train. So if you remember, Soul
Speaker 1: Train was Soul Trained Awards, Soul Trained Weekly, Soul Trained Quick,
Speaker 1: Christmas Star, Soul Trained, Lady of Soul. You had Soul
Speaker 1: Trained as the umbrella title, and you had all of
Speaker 1: these subtitle shows that Don Cornelius and his genius had put,
Speaker 1: you know, put out in the marketplace. And so I said,
Speaker 1: this is a great idea. So we did Gospel Superfess,
Speaker 1: Holiday Gospel Superfess, Easter Jam Gospel Superfess, Black History Month Gospel.
Speaker 1: So it was really basically the second the Soul Train
Speaker 1: model flipped for Jesus. So that's how and that's how
Speaker 1: I syndicated a lot of people compared me with other
Speaker 1: gospel shows. But to be completely transparent, I just really
Speaker 1: co tell Don Cornelius and change the gospel, changed Soul
Speaker 1: Training to Gospel Superfess and put subtitles under it, and
Speaker 1: that's how we syndicated the Gospel Superfessor. Congratulations and congratulations
Speaker 1: for having a wife who every time you said something,
Speaker 1: Jeez went back to sleep or tell you to go
Speaker 1: go do it. And both of y'all because we were
Speaker 1: indicated on over twenty HBCU stations, and both of you
Speaker 1: guys at HBCU grads correct. We went to HBC's I
Speaker 1: got my I dropped out after two years. She got
Speaker 1: her degree from Howard. But we met at Kentucky State
Speaker 1: and so and that's another thread. But I left Kentucky
Speaker 1: State after my sophomore year. My schoolmates and classmates were
Speaker 1: all of the members of Midnight Stars and remember Midnight
Speaker 1: Star Wars from them on the campus of Kentucky State University.
Speaker 1: Were all friends to this day. We were all studying together.
Speaker 1: My wife was in biology, so she wanted to move on,
Speaker 1: so she moved over to Howard her junior year and
Speaker 1: finished at Howard. I didn't finish. Then I went on
Speaker 1: the road with the Ohio Players and M two May
Speaker 1: and Heat Waving a whole bunch of R and B
Speaker 1: groups because all I really wanted before I was saved
Speaker 1: our players, did you used to have to send my
Speaker 1: new women on an album Government in two Come On Night.
Speaker 1: When I was twenty one years old, I joined the
Speaker 1: Ohio Players as a stage technician. So a friend of
Speaker 1: mine was getting a job. The High Players had lost
Speaker 1: most of their road crew. I don't know why they did.
Speaker 1: People said, well, they weren't getting paid. They was upset.
Speaker 1: So all of their really strong tech people went with
Speaker 1: the Commodores and the Ohier Players didn't have any road crew.
Speaker 1: So a friend of mine named Kenny Thomas, who's deceased now.
Speaker 1: He kept coming over my house so, hey, man, we're
Speaker 1: going out in two weeks. You ought to come with us. Man,
Speaker 1: we're going out, and you're gonna going And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I'm trying to start my own group. I
Speaker 1: don't know. So he come around the next week, Man,
Speaker 1: we down to three people. We need three more people.
Speaker 1: And I said, my band started not making rehearsals. The
Speaker 1: singers was like, find babysitters and stuff like this, like, oh,
Speaker 1: this band ain't going nowhere, you know. So he came
Speaker 1: around again. He said, like, I got one position left.
Speaker 1: It's the violet position. You'll handle all the clothes and wardrobe.
Speaker 1: You need to come on and go out with us.
Speaker 1: So I looked at what the band was doing. The
Speaker 1: band was doing nothing, and so I disbanded the band
Speaker 1: and jumped on the hard player's crew and when I
Speaker 1: was twenty one years old, congratulate and went out went
Speaker 1: out with him for three years. What a great story.
Speaker 1: We're talking to Bobby Cartwright Junior. He's the executive producer
Speaker 1: and the founder of the Gospel Superfest. As he said,
Speaker 1: he just used his brain. He looked at what Dawn
Speaker 1: Conegius was doing and just did his own version. Instead
Speaker 1: of the R and B spin, it was a gospel spin.
Speaker 1: The Gospel super Fess Easter Jam will air on BT
Speaker 1: April night, five pm Eastern Standard Time. Please don't go anywhere,
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Speaker 1: to Bobby Cartwright Junior. As he said earlier prior to
Speaker 1: our break, Unity Media, a Christian based firm owned by
Speaker 1: her husband and wife. Bobby and reneed a cart Right.
Speaker 1: Everything starts with a dream, Everything starts with the idea
Speaker 1: we all have these opportunities. What do we do with
Speaker 1: these opportunities. He saw an opportunity presented to him to
Speaker 1: do a radio station. He didn't think he was capable
Speaker 1: of doing that. He didn't think he wanted to do
Speaker 1: the work. His wife looked at him, she knew she
Speaker 1: married to she knew what he could do. Pushed him
Speaker 1: right back out that door. And when she pushed him
Speaker 1: right back out that door, he realized the dream was
Speaker 1: superseded by somebody else. And then he found out it
Speaker 1: wasn't about the station. It was about him. And there's
Speaker 1: so many of us out there in the streets today
Speaker 1: don't understand our own personal value. And if you don't
Speaker 1: understand your personal value, then you will never have significant growth.
Speaker 1: That's what money Making Conversations Master Class is all about.
Speaker 1: Bringing people like Bobby Cartwright Junior on the show. Let
Speaker 1: you know, if you see it, you can do it.
Speaker 1: But you better be consistent, you better realize the amount
Speaker 1: of effort you got to put into it. And more importantly,
Speaker 1: you gotta surround yourself by someone or some people who
Speaker 1: believe in you. In your case, Bobby, it gotta be
Speaker 1: your wife. We needa talk of talk to us about it.
Speaker 1: It is. It definitely is her. I mean she is
Speaker 1: the perfect temperament for this because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: things that you know. I went very very fast with
Speaker 1: this interview. But around the second Gospel super Fast, actually
Speaker 1: the first Gospel super Fast, the people kept telling me
Speaker 1: because the tickets were so slow, and you know how
Speaker 1: Black concerts are, wait, wait till the last minute, and
Speaker 1: so there's three day event and tickets were slow, and
Speaker 1: the people kept coming up to me, aren't you going
Speaker 1: to council? Aren't you going to cancel? I'm like, no, no,
Speaker 1: the Lord told me not to do that, and the
Speaker 1: Lord told me to do this. I'm not canceling Rashawn
Speaker 1: Monday morning, those folks were wrapped around that at lunchtime
Speaker 1: where we were wrapped around that Colgey and buying these
Speaker 1: last minute tickets on Monday morning. The week of the
Speaker 1: show I had. The show was in June. I had
Speaker 1: been up on the air since February trying to push
Speaker 1: this concert and they didn't respond until a week before.
Speaker 1: And that week I said, Lord, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I have promoted stomach or not, because this is just ridiculous.
Speaker 1: But there was the last minute and I held faith.
Speaker 1: And we had a sponsor that year, and I can
Speaker 1: say it was Kmart and you know Kmar was in
Speaker 1: for a nice bundle. And the week of the show,
Speaker 1: Camar got into bankruptcy trouble or something was going on
Speaker 1: and they pulled out. So so on Monday morning, I
Speaker 1: had no sponsor, no major sponsor. That the tickets looked funny,
Speaker 1: but the lord said, this is what I want you
Speaker 1: to do. So you know, we kept. We kept we
Speaker 1: were supposed to do. We did it, and we were
Speaker 1: about eight graand short. And so I went to a
Speaker 1: banker and I took a second mortgage job of my
Speaker 1: house because I'm a man of integrity. If I say you,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay you. I'm gonna pay't hook a cook
Speaker 1: who I shouldn't say it like that, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pay you. So I went and got I took a
Speaker 1: second mortgage job of my house, and I've rung the
Speaker 1: paper some to my wife and I said, honey, I
Speaker 1: need you to sign right here. You see what the
Speaker 1: yellow sticker is. And he just said right here, and
Speaker 1: he just said right here. She said, what is it?
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it either. She said, well what I said,
Speaker 1: it's a second mortage. I need to pay the lighting department.
Speaker 1: Just sign right here. She's like, bhlah boy. So every
Speaker 1: time I made my house payment, I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: paying for Gospel Superfest. And it was just twenty something
Speaker 1: years ago. But that's the kind of wife I have.
Speaker 1: It's like she is in all in, you know. And
Speaker 1: so we second mortgaged our house, paid the lighting department off,
Speaker 1: kept our integrity, went on to the next year, and
Speaker 1: then we started making money. Paulay off year three or four.
Speaker 1: We didn't make any money in the first two or
Speaker 1: three years. It was you know, that's just the way
Speaker 1: some of these projects go. You have to end his
Speaker 1: ass and you have to believe in what you're doing. Well,
Speaker 1: you know the inconsistency. I'm speaking to Bobby card right.
Speaker 1: Gospel Superfest is uh, it's it's his dream, it's his
Speaker 1: brand that he's developed over the years. Like he said,
Speaker 1: over twenty years, he's been doing over twenty three years.
Speaker 1: Let me be correct. The next one that's airing a
Speaker 1: Gospel Easter jam is airing April ninth on b ET. Now,
Speaker 1: let me talk to you about you know you have
Speaker 1: you know, you have pop, you have pop music, you
Speaker 1: have rap music, you have R and B music, you
Speaker 1: have gospel. Now, there are different age groups that are
Speaker 1: attracted to those basic basic music genres. I'm just talking
Speaker 1: about black because I could mention rock, I could mention gospel.
Speaker 1: I mean our country, but I'm not gonna talk about
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about black people and these ranges of
Speaker 1: music they do. Now, does it frustrate you when you
Speaker 1: know that a rap artist with sale tickets like that,
Speaker 1: or a hot R and B artist with sale tickets
Speaker 1: like that, or crossover act like Weekend with sale tickets
Speaker 1: like that, when you see how even today the hottest
Speaker 1: gospel acts really don't move tickets as fast as the
Speaker 1: hottest rap act. Correct, that is true, That's definitely true.
Speaker 1: It's definitely an economic golf gap between the fact they
Speaker 1: used the word second. Definitely different economic dynamic to that.
Speaker 1: And I don't know a lot of time they expect
Speaker 1: the gospel people to travel and pay for you know,
Speaker 1: and and play for free, or preachers to come, but
Speaker 1: they have expenses that too. They've got over and things
Speaker 1: and families defeating the whole night just like anybody else does.
Speaker 1: So I don't know why there's such a gap there.
Speaker 1: The attractions might not be there, but some artists have
Speaker 1: garnered larger audiences than others down through the years. Absolutely, Bobby,
Speaker 1: let's talk about sponsors. What do you know, because what
Speaker 1: you're talking business might a making conversations mastercally. What does
Speaker 1: a sponsor who sponsors your events? What do they look for?
Speaker 1: Because people are always talking to me, I can need
Speaker 1: a sponsor for this, I need a sponsor for this.
Speaker 1: You see what you had to build, Like you said,
Speaker 1: your first concert, you had k Mark and they filed bankruptcy,
Speaker 1: they went away, but you still had smaller sponsors that
Speaker 1: what do you think it has been the magical hook
Speaker 1: for you to get sponsors and build your dollar on
Speaker 1: each sponsor over the years. Well, you know it's been,
Speaker 1: you know, to be what I feel personally, it's been
Speaker 1: an anointing that God has given me an ability to
Speaker 1: just create something that would appeal to corporate America because
Speaker 1: we have been we've been sponsored by Proctoring Gambles since
Speaker 1: two thousand and two, and we've been sponsored. We did
Speaker 1: an eight year. There's either eight years or nine year run.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you remember Rashan, but we
Speaker 1: were the All State Gospel Superfass right from two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine to two sixteen, so we did eight years
Speaker 1: six years. What is it that I got my math
Speaker 1: mess up? But as at least years eight years were
Speaker 1: uh and I know exactly it was eight years because
Speaker 1: it was the length and breadth of the Obama presidency
Speaker 1: that we were All State Gospel Superfest. So All State
Speaker 1: was our title sponsor. Procting Gamble has been our presenting
Speaker 1: sponsor or in some form or fashion. And you know
Speaker 1: African American eyeballs or African American eyeballs. And what you
Speaker 1: have to do if you were selling a gospel show
Speaker 1: or something like that, you have to make your case
Speaker 1: and you have to make your case based on the
Speaker 1: reach that you're able to provide to your client, you know,
Speaker 1: to your potential client. It's all about numbers. It's all
Speaker 1: about reaching demographics. Are you reaching women? Are you reaching men?
Speaker 1: Is it eighteen to forty nine, twenty five to fifty four?
Speaker 1: Whatever that you know that demographic that you're you're pitching.
Speaker 1: You have to bring the numbers, and one of the
Speaker 1: things that I did because there were other gospel shows
Speaker 1: that preceded me in the business, and I knew I
Speaker 1: was going into territory that the folks were already buying
Speaker 1: those shows, and so I never sold against another show.
Speaker 1: It was always, you know, if you can find a
Speaker 1: little piece of the pine for us, or I thought
Speaker 1: it was a biblical phrase, it was crumbs from the
Speaker 1: master's table. I was like, but I would never go
Speaker 1: in there and sell against doctor Bobby Jones or anybody
Speaker 1: like that. I was always saying, I know you've already
Speaker 1: been in these shows. We're just asking you if you
Speaker 1: could find a little place for us in your budget.
Speaker 1: And I always kept my integrity when I would get
Speaker 1: in front of corporate American front front of clients. I
Speaker 1: can sleep at night because I never had to cut
Speaker 1: somebody's throat and never had to go in all underhandedly
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. Our people say, all
Speaker 1: these you know how people are. Let me just ask
Speaker 1: you this because I got to say this, and that's
Speaker 1: what because I respect that the integrity part. Where it
Speaker 1: disappoints me is the fact that you know, they got
Speaker 1: a big budget for pop. They got a big budget
Speaker 1: for country, they got big budget for rock, and you
Speaker 1: don't have to go in there and the crab and
Speaker 1: the barrel type thing. When he into black entertained Black events,
Speaker 1: you know, because that's because they just section off and
Speaker 1: said where we're We're just gonna reach that audience. When
Speaker 1: we know the power of the black dollar, we know
Speaker 1: the power of the black consumer. Because we also know
Speaker 1: that women are probably about seventy of the gospel audience.
Speaker 1: And we also know that black women are the decision
Speaker 1: makers and buying household and so when I look at that,
Speaker 1: you know me, man, I get to know because I've
Speaker 1: had to battle the same conversation you have, trying to
Speaker 1: get sponsors, trying to convince them that these same black
Speaker 1: people who they know by cars, by computers, you know,
Speaker 1: by by by homes, by groceries, they have to say.
Speaker 1: They questioned it when you when you walk in the
Speaker 1: room and go I can put you in front of
Speaker 1: five thousand people, I can put you in front of
Speaker 1: ten thousand people, I can put you on the network.
Speaker 1: Thing like that, that frustration is, do I understand you
Speaker 1: go through? And that's why I wanted to bring you
Speaker 1: on my show just letting people hear your story because
Speaker 1: to get to where you've gotten what the gospels super
Speaker 1: fast is a testament. Don't know you who you are,
Speaker 1: but also who who your wife is as well. Well,
Speaker 1: she's a definitely woman, a woman of integrat and she's
Speaker 1: the prayer warrior of the household. That's for sure. Um,
Speaker 1: people ask me, you know, how did this the holiness
Speaker 1: woman married this colonel brother? You know, well, you know,
Speaker 1: m Jimmy. Now you're out there with a midnight star,
Speaker 1: You're out there with a higher player. I can only
Speaker 1: imagine the higher player tour. That's I'll just stopped right
Speaker 1: there because I ain't gonna miss up your ain't gonna
Speaker 1: miss up your history. I've been I've been born a
Speaker 1: gatting drug free since eighty seven, but before eighty seven,
Speaker 1: you know it was, but I love it. Hey, Boba,
Speaker 1: tell us what I know. You got another event coming
Speaker 1: up in Jacksonville, Florida. The Gospel Superfest is coming in
Speaker 1: September and Jacksonville, Florida. But more importantly, tell everybody why
Speaker 1: they should watch the episode Gospel Superfest Easter Jam that's
Speaker 1: coming up April ninth on BT