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Speaker 1: When she started trading stocks nine years ago, she initially
Speaker 1: saw this as an opportunity to simply supplement her income
Speaker 1: elected world supplement her income. However, she was so successful
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Speaker 1: non profit and then it became supplemental income. Then it
Speaker 1: became a side hustle. Then in twenty seven team she
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Speaker 1: hustle now travel the world and begin trading stock full time. Investing.
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Speaker 1: Making Conversation Terry, e G. Thank you so much. First
Speaker 1: of all, I just got to go back to that intro,
Speaker 1: you know, education to know our profit. Then it became,
Speaker 1: you know, just a simple way to supplement my income.
Speaker 1: Then it became a side hustle, and then you decided
Speaker 1: just to quit. Okay, walk us through all those steps,
Speaker 1: because that's a journey that allows us to talk about
Speaker 1: what you're doing today with invest with Terry, it was
Speaker 1: it was a journey, and you know what I would say,
Speaker 1: I think it was actually a mindset journey because I
Speaker 1: learned about investing in high school and I learned about
Speaker 1: it like the year that Google I p o. So
Speaker 1: if you can just imagine me learning about stocks and
Speaker 1: then Google ipo it eighty three dollars and what it
Speaker 1: would have done for me if I had invested back then.
Speaker 1: But nobody in my family knew anything about stock, so
Speaker 1: we yeah, I knew it was a good thing, but
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to do it. And so going
Speaker 1: into college, I went to M I T. And studied
Speaker 1: on Wall Street because I'm still interested in what is
Speaker 1: the called stock thing? So you just blew past in
Speaker 1: my tea like that, you know, or junior college I
Speaker 1: went to in my tea. Okay, now that's what you're
Speaker 1: not gonna do with my show, Terry, it's come on
Speaker 1: my show and act like I can't hear success. I
Speaker 1: can't hear significant things when they're said to me. You
Speaker 1: keep talking, but I'm gonna interrupt you if you say
Speaker 1: anything else like that and not slow down. You know
Speaker 1: you're supposed to. Went and I went to M I T.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yes I'm kind of smart, but yes. So
Speaker 1: I went to M I T. And they kind of
Speaker 1: funneled us into two paths. You neither go to Wall
Speaker 1: Street or you do consulting, because you know, they think, okay,
Speaker 1: use that mind to problem solved. And so I went
Speaker 1: to Wall Street and again I was expelled to this
Speaker 1: whole world of investing. But this is the mindset part
Speaker 1: in my mind because where I had grown up, like
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up with money. I had always associated
Speaker 1: people on Wall Street with like, you know, arrogantness. Um,
Speaker 1: they're just not good this, this is not a good industry.
Speaker 1: So even though I had this great opportunity, I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna go into consulting.
Speaker 1: And then one of my clients with education. So I
Speaker 1: went into this whole education route because I felt like, well,
Speaker 1: that's where the heroes are. That what I had seen.
Speaker 1: The heroes are in education, the heroes are in ministry.
Speaker 1: And so I think a lot of our communities, like
Speaker 1: we have that mindset. There's like this a version to
Speaker 1: big money, but money or not realizing that a lot
Speaker 1: of people are living successful lives doing this, you know,
Speaker 1: because we we we see the we see, you know,
Speaker 1: with a warm buff for the Bill Gates and all
Speaker 1: these people out there. They are our new celebrities now
Speaker 1: where previously with just athletes and just entertainers, but now
Speaker 1: the tech world has created this whole world of just
Speaker 1: celebrities in the stock world. And so to me, it
Speaker 1: always felt like it was like they were there, but
Speaker 1: it seems like they were ghosts. They were unattainable because
Speaker 1: of the knowledge, you feel me because of the fact
Speaker 1: that that's how that's how we deny ourselves on a
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities because we feel I can't do that,
Speaker 1: that's not me. I can't live in that neighborhood, or
Speaker 1: I never live in that neighborhood, or I'll never be
Speaker 1: associated with those type of people. And that's what you
Speaker 1: were saying earlier, were talking about the mindset. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and I don't and we do that so much even
Speaker 1: when I think, so I have a school now, um,
Speaker 1: and I know we're fast forwarding, jumping, but jump back.
Speaker 1: You jump past the quick to your job. You jumped
Speaker 1: past the side hustle, you jump you jumped past to
Speaker 1: travel the world. I don't know. Are you trying to
Speaker 1: take all my interview? You know? Uh? I need I
Speaker 1: need to be here. Let's go back to the side. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we'll go to Yes, Okay, we have so much
Speaker 1: I want to tell you. Oh but so Yes. What
Speaker 1: happened was I had this knowledge from Wall Street, but
Speaker 1: I went into education around for about ten years. But
Speaker 1: because I still knew how to invest, I started using
Speaker 1: it as a side hustle to supplement my income. And
Speaker 1: the big thing for me was I didn't need a
Speaker 1: lot because as an educator, my salary wasn't that big.
Speaker 1: So for me to even replace my whole salary was
Speaker 1: just three hundred dollars a day. So yeah, So when
Speaker 1: I decided that I'm actually gonna I'm not happy here, like,
Speaker 1: I got really stressed out. I wasn't having a good
Speaker 1: time to my job, and I needed an extra strategy.
Speaker 1: When I decided that you know what, I need to leave.
Speaker 1: It was really just okay, what is my freedom number? Well,
Speaker 1: my freedom numbers just three hundred dollars a day. If
Speaker 1: I could just make three hundred dollars a day, I'll
Speaker 1: be good. And I started learning how to do that
Speaker 1: with stocks and I worked myself up. At first, it
Speaker 1: was okay, let me just be positive. Then it was okay,
Speaker 1: let me make a hundred dollars a day, two hundred
Speaker 1: and then when I started hitting that three hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm out of here. You started
Speaker 1: walking a little different, Like I went, y'all want to
Speaker 1: say something crazy to me today? Because I can leave? Hey, Terry, Terry,
Speaker 1: how's that? How's that? How's that? Walking a little different?
Speaker 1: Look if the people noticed you were walking different in
Speaker 1: the break room with different sets of food and everything
Speaker 1: we did, and you thought, what's crazy is? I think
Speaker 1: my bosses could tell that I was walking different. I
Speaker 1: even had a meeting one time and it was like
Speaker 1: four of my bosses. I don't know why I had
Speaker 1: so many bosses in education, but it was. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: And they even asked me in a meeting, like are
Speaker 1: you thinking about leaving and like the whole like their
Speaker 1: holds a mean towards me chained. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they started trying to like hold me down. Crazy how
Speaker 1: people will not uplift you when they see you can
Speaker 1: do better, you know, but they'll tell you but they're
Speaker 1: cool with you as long as they feel that you
Speaker 1: they're equal. But when they see you in a position
Speaker 1: to do better, then they want to hold you back
Speaker 1: or contradict you, a question your motives as to why
Speaker 1: you're still at this job, and going to start damping
Speaker 1: your start, you know, start damaging your reputation. It's really
Speaker 1: sad what people will do. I remember when I quit IBM,
Speaker 1: I thought I was the greatest employee ever at IBM.
Speaker 1: I really did. I thought. I thought when I left,
Speaker 1: IBM was shut down. I thought I was that great.
Speaker 1: When I told my supervisor that I was resigning to
Speaker 1: go tell do stand up comedy, he said, wait right here.
Speaker 1: He when he got security, he when he got scary,
Speaker 1: walked me out. Don't go. Don't go near your desk.
Speaker 1: Don't go near your desk. We'll we'll send you your stuff.
Speaker 1: Because that's how life is. That's why I tell people,
Speaker 1: follow your dreams follow you because what you may think
Speaker 1: there is and there's nothing negative. All companies do that.
Speaker 1: I do that to my company. You gotta protect your secrets.
Speaker 1: You You just can't have an employee who doesn't have
Speaker 1: respect for what you're doing. Just walk around the office
Speaker 1: and just start picking up stuff, because they might pick
Speaker 1: up the wrong thing. It might take a take something
Speaker 1: with you that you probably need to have to bring
Speaker 1: them back in and ask for it. So so I
Speaker 1: know exactly what you were talking about. And when I
Speaker 1: tell that story, it's just a story I gotta tell
Speaker 1: to everybody to know that. You know your value can
Speaker 1: be perceived based on what they need from you. That's anybody, yea.
Speaker 1: And so you start doing better now these four people
Speaker 1: standing that you're talking about m M yep. And I
Speaker 1: wanted to actually go take an invest in class like
Speaker 1: it during while I was assistant principle. I'm still doing
Speaker 1: my job like They couldn't even deny that yet. You're
Speaker 1: meeting all the objectives on your resume. But when I
Speaker 1: asked them, can I just take off a few days
Speaker 1: to go take this investing class? Do you know? One
Speaker 1: of the bosses came to my office and he said, look, Terry,
Speaker 1: I just need to let you know if you go
Speaker 1: and take that class, they will fire you. And I
Speaker 1: was like, what because you would think like being able
Speaker 1: to advance that problem solving, that's being able to make
Speaker 1: quick decisions like these are skill set that I could
Speaker 1: be helping my company, but it's building the skill sets.
Speaker 1: But no, they were threatened by it, right, which was
Speaker 1: really really sad, right because of the fact that you
Speaker 1: were engaging in an opportunity that they couldn't participate in.
Speaker 1: And what were saying is, believe me, they're good people
Speaker 1: that she's talking about, but they're just caught up in
Speaker 1: their their dreams. You can't let their dreams become your dreams.
Speaker 1: And that's what was happening in your life. You are
Speaker 1: you had a mindset that you know you couldn't do
Speaker 1: the Wall Street theme, so you settled back. But you
Speaker 1: always above them. You are always above them, Terry. And
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand that that you know,
Speaker 1: you can walk a lifestyle, but it cannot be your
Speaker 1: lifestyle if you're not committed. And after that, but that's
Speaker 1: what started to happen. You know you're going you know
Speaker 1: somebody could do better. And then when people start seeing
Speaker 1: you do better, they start in your commitment. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm about to say. Then that's when we had to
Speaker 1: exit right there. That's when we started traveling the world,
Speaker 1: beginning full time investment, and Terry becomes an education and
Speaker 1: coaching on how to invest in the stock markets. I'm
Speaker 1: fast forward you now. I'm moving your forward now because
Speaker 1: we got the reality of what I needed. The people
Speaker 1: on my shoulder here is that you gotta change your mindset.
Speaker 1: You gotta believe in yourself. And when you start believing yourself,
Speaker 1: people will question you or challenge your motivation for change
Speaker 1: personal change. You gotta look past that those challenges and
Speaker 1: stick with your plan. And then she went, you know something,
Speaker 1: I'm making three hundred dollars a day. That's what I
Speaker 1: make here walking around with these four people staring at
Speaker 1: me every day. I'm just gonna take my little, my
Speaker 1: little three hundred plus because she she's a little bit
Speaker 1: above the three hundred days, because she hugging as long
Speaker 1: as she could. Just what I did. I told jokes
Speaker 1: as long as I could I be. Then I relize,
Speaker 1: you know something, I can't do this no more. I
Speaker 1: gotta go little my dreams. So where did you go
Speaker 1: first when you start traveling the world, Terry, So I'll
Speaker 1: quit and then onto South Korea. Then I went to Timeline,
Speaker 1: then Vietnam, and I stayed in all these places like
Speaker 1: a month at a time, just living my best fight.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, this is wonderful. So so Terry, tell
Speaker 1: us what you're involved in right now. So now I have,
Speaker 1: of course that teaches people how to trade, and our
Speaker 1: goal is to help when thousand people to make a
Speaker 1: thousand dollars in a day. So we call it the
Speaker 1: million dollars a Day campaign because we're just thinking, if
Speaker 1: we teach a thousand people to make a thousand dollars
Speaker 1: in a day, that's a million dollars a day, and
Speaker 1: then that's in our communities. Like what kind of impact
Speaker 1: could we have if we're generating a million dollars a day?
Speaker 1: Like we could change so many things, from the school
Speaker 1: system to healthcare to mental health, Like so many things
Speaker 1: could be impacted by us learning how to generate our
Speaker 1: own income. So that's what we're doing right now in
Speaker 1: our trade and travel programs. Okay, when you say the
Speaker 1: word US, I'm just talking to you. Who is us?
Speaker 1: Well me, but I think of all the people that like,
Speaker 1: all of my students as my family. So I'm thinking
Speaker 1: us like we have or we have over eleven hundred
Speaker 1: students down and they're they're everywhere. They're doctor's, lawyer's principle.
Speaker 1: And so I'm teaching them how to make a thousand
Speaker 1: dollars in a day, and they're doing it like they
Speaker 1: are killing the game. Like even right now with the
Speaker 1: market following, they're making money. Like literally they're sending me
Speaker 1: texting us to do even today. That's like Harry, in
Speaker 1: the first thirty minutes of the market, I made my
Speaker 1: two thousand, I'm done for the week. I'm like, they're
Speaker 1: they are killing the game. So that's what that's what
Speaker 1: I'm working on right now, just changing the narrative by
Speaker 1: helping us generat income for ourselves. Okay, how do I
Speaker 1: reshow my dollars? Because I'm gonna tell you something, I
Speaker 1: could never have enough money, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I need I'll just Shan mcdong, oh, somebody like with y'all, Oh,
Speaker 1: somebody not like with Shan mcconna get involved with your program,
Speaker 1: because it tells me, here, you have four main topics, right, yes,
Speaker 1: so be so. In my program is in trade and travel.
Speaker 1: There's four big areas. The first one is you gotta
Speaker 1: learn how to pick good companies, and like that's crucial.
Speaker 1: What I see a lot of people doing is they say, well,
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of money, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go pick up penny stock. That is the worst thing
Speaker 1: you can ever do. If you're really wanting to make
Speaker 1: good income, you have to pick value companies that are healthy,
Speaker 1: that you know will be around for a while. So
Speaker 1: like we really really want to go with healthy companies.
Speaker 1: Then we go into risk management, like one of one.
Speaker 1: I've been trading for a long time now, but in
Speaker 1: my first six years I would make a little bit
Speaker 1: and then lose a lot and then make a little bit.
Speaker 1: So you can't you can't be successful like that. You
Speaker 1: have to have some type of racing management planning to
Speaker 1: protect yourself from moving. And there's so many ways to
Speaker 1: do that. We just don't know. No one's taught us.
Speaker 1: Like there's order types, stop block orders, and there's ways
Speaker 1: to calculate your quantity side. Like sometimes we get so
Speaker 1: we think that our our trade is gonna make us
Speaker 1: rich tomorrow, so we just buy all the shares and
Speaker 1: then it's like, wait, it didn't work out. Now I'm broke.
Speaker 1: That's all. That's part of risk management. So we teach
Speaker 1: risk management. And then the next thing I teach is
Speaker 1: in charting. So in order to figure out the best
Speaker 1: time to get in or out of a stock, you
Speaker 1: have to learn how to read a chart. That's another
Speaker 1: thing that I see. Novice investors like skipping, so they'll
Speaker 1: find a company they like and then they'll get in
Speaker 1: at any price. But then they realize that, oh man,
Speaker 1: I just got in at the highs and now it's
Speaker 1: going against me and I'm losing money. Knowing what price
Speaker 1: to get into a stock is determined by reading charts.
Speaker 1: So I teach people how to read a stock chart,
Speaker 1: and then we go into a trading plan, because in
Speaker 1: order to have consistency, you need a consistent plan. Like
Speaker 1: every time I take a trade, at these seven steps,
Speaker 1: and that's what I teach. I teach my seven steps strategy.
Speaker 1: If you do those seven steps every time, you can
Speaker 1: get consistency. Like that's how I made it three hundred
Speaker 1: dollars a day. That's how I've now grown to Oh well,
Speaker 1: I've grown over a hundred thousand dollars in a day,
Speaker 1: but I grew to a thousand dollars in a day
Speaker 1: and then continue. Now, one thing I hear because say
Speaker 1: Rushan McDonald wants to jump in, I can't jump in
Speaker 1: with a part time mentality. This has to be a commitment.
Speaker 1: Correct it does. Now let me let me make one correction.
Speaker 1: Though some people feel like I'm just gonna be staring
Speaker 1: in front of a screen and it takes all day.
Speaker 1: It does not take all day, like you can trade
Speaker 1: within two to four hours a day, Like you don't
Speaker 1: need all day to make your money. Um. And and
Speaker 1: what makes that less time is a chart. When you
Speaker 1: learn how to read the charts, it takes less time.
Speaker 1: But yes, it should be something that you're committed to.
Speaker 1: You don't want to have like one ft in and
Speaker 1: one foot out. If you really want to make you
Speaker 1: gotta be able. Yeah saying is that? Is that? Okay?
Speaker 1: The worst part about a person like me or a
Speaker 1: person who here's your story. Oh, I want to make
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars a day. Okay, Okay, Now there's homework,
Speaker 1: Like you said, there are steps. You gotta learn how
Speaker 1: to read your charts so you can't come back screaming
Speaker 1: the terror going. It didn't work for me. Okay, what
Speaker 1: kind of work did you put in though? Did you
Speaker 1: think this was just gonna be Because a lot of
Speaker 1: people want to have that lottery mentality. They want to
Speaker 1: put their pick their numbers and win. And I always
Speaker 1: tell people all the time, people who were in the lottery,
Speaker 1: they put in a lottery a lot they were just
Speaker 1: walking there on the data numbers high and everybody's standing
Speaker 1: in the line to get it. These people play all
Speaker 1: the time. And so it's the same thing with stock.
Speaker 1: You have to be committed all the time. Now, how
Speaker 1: much time you give it is up to you, but
Speaker 1: you still have to be consistent with it. And that's
Speaker 1: the story you're telling on my show today. Correct. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's like learning a new language. You don't just all
Speaker 1: of a sudden the confluent like, no, you gotta learn
Speaker 1: the alphabet, you have the arn sentences, practice. It takes
Speaker 1: time and practice, and then you become fluent. It's just
Speaker 1: the same way learning to trade. I compare it to
Speaker 1: like learning a new language. And then once you know
Speaker 1: the language, you don't have to use it all the time.
Speaker 1: You can pick and choose when you decide to trade,
Speaker 1: but at least you know the skill set and you
Speaker 1: can have that forever, which is nice, Which is really funny.
Speaker 1: I really love the fact that when I'm talking to you,
Speaker 1: there's an energy in your voice, which means they're you're
Speaker 1: still enthusied about providing this information to people and making
Speaker 1: them successful. That's really that's It's that the education is
Speaker 1: that the education part of you just still hanging in there.
Speaker 1: You know, you're right, Like sometimes being an entrepreneur in
Speaker 1: general can be kind of training. Like we all know,
Speaker 1: like it takes a lot to a lot of effort,
Speaker 1: a lot of energy to be able to just provide
Speaker 1: any service. But I just get excited by my students,
Speaker 1: like waking up today knowing that they can provide for
Speaker 1: their families even during layoffs and and coronavirus time because
Speaker 1: they have this feel set or they're not worried and
Speaker 1: like they don't feel helpless when the market falls because
Speaker 1: they don't how to control their bundy. Like knowing that
Speaker 1: that kind of life changing like transformations are happening gets
Speaker 1: me excited. I still I still love what I do. Well.
Speaker 1: I can tell in your voice, and that's important that
Speaker 1: I make that translation obvious to everybody who's listeners, that
Speaker 1: you really want to be in people who who will
Speaker 1: give you information and they have passion tied to it,
Speaker 1: and they have love tied to it, and they have enthusiasm.
Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of people out that they give
Speaker 1: you information, but it's just a job to them, it's
Speaker 1: just a job. They just they want you to invest
Speaker 1: in their idea and then they want to get that
Speaker 1: little money that you used to invest in their idea,
Speaker 1: and that's it. And I hear a certain, a certain
Speaker 1: youthfulness in being able to say, you know something, you
Speaker 1: can be me and that and it's not impossible. See,
Speaker 1: I know I can't be warm Buffett. I know I
Speaker 1: can't do that person. He's so far ahead of the
Speaker 1: food change is ridiculous. But I can be Terry em
Speaker 1: If you can, you can. And I want you to
Speaker 1: like that's the key, Like I want other people to
Speaker 1: be like me. I want you to be able to
Speaker 1: have freedom even if you don't want to quit your job,
Speaker 1: but at least you have the money on the side
Speaker 1: that you know that no one else thinks control. You know,
Speaker 1: if you don't want to travel that's cool, but you
Speaker 1: know you could if you wanted to, Like you can
Speaker 1: pay off your student loans. I've paid off my student loans,
Speaker 1: I've paid off my mortgage, like all these things like
Speaker 1: that kind of reality and freedom you can get from
Speaker 1: trading stocks, and I think that's the key. I want
Speaker 1: to just change the narrative. So many people think it's
Speaker 1: just like a long term wait till I retired, But no,
Speaker 1: you could use the money right now to do whatever
Speaker 1: you want to do. Okay, before we I know the
Speaker 1: interview is gonna come to the end, I want you
Speaker 1: to go over this webinar series called Power one Million,
Speaker 1: and you're currently hosting a thousand dollars in the Day
Speaker 1: campaign and those four main parts again and also how
Speaker 1: they can be a part of it. Sure, So first,
Speaker 1: if anybody wants to learn how I make a thousand
Speaker 1: dollars in a day, the best website is I Trade
Speaker 1: in Travel dot com. So that's I Trade and Travel
Speaker 1: dot com and there's free webinar there you can learn
Speaker 1: like my four key points that I talked about today,
Speaker 1: So go to I Trade and Travel dot com and
Speaker 1: check out the webinar. But the campaign, the million dollars
Speaker 1: a day. Campaign is we're teaching a thousand people to
Speaker 1: make a thousand dollars in a day. And there's three
Speaker 1: ways you can get involved. Like one, join my course
Speaker 1: and learn for yourself so that you're one of the thousands.
Speaker 1: So learn how to make your own money. And and
Speaker 1: the key is how much money you make will be
Speaker 1: determined to how much you're investing. So I don't want
Speaker 1: everyone to think, like, well, I'm gonna start with five
Speaker 1: hundred dollars and then just make um a thousand, because
Speaker 1: like my goal actually is for you to make one
Speaker 1: percent of your cash amount a day. So even if
Speaker 1: that you're investing with two thousand dollars and you make
Speaker 1: your twention dollars a day, that's still good money. That's
Speaker 1: a hundred extra dollars that we four hundred dollars a month.
Speaker 1: That's twenty percent in return, which is better than the market. Right,
Speaker 1: So we're taking we're doing small, small chunk, small attainable goals.
Speaker 1: So like that's our goals. The first you can join
Speaker 1: the course, you can learn how to make your money
Speaker 1: work for you yourself. The second thing you could do
Speaker 1: to be part of a million dollars a day is
Speaker 1: tell someone else. So if maybe you don't want to invest,
Speaker 1: but you know your son does, or your deshew or
Speaker 1: someone that like women, I'm of course I'm a woman,
Speaker 1: so I'm always gonna be advocating your your wife, your sister,
Speaker 1: your daughter, your aunt, um like, make sure they like
Speaker 1: you can also buy the course for them so they
Speaker 1: can learn how to trade. And then the last thing
Speaker 1: is sponsor a student. So one of the things that
Speaker 1: I absolutely love about my course is that any age
Speaker 1: group can take it. They'd either like I have people
Speaker 1: in retirement getting ready to retire, they're learning to trade
Speaker 1: so that they can retire. People in their like thirties
Speaker 1: and forties, they're like me with the side of who
Speaker 1: just want to do so I'm different they have up
Speaker 1: some savings in their account. Or you could go to
Speaker 1: the high school and college. Remember I was in high
Speaker 1: school when I first learned, and I just I wish
Speaker 1: that someone knew how to do it back then, to
Speaker 1: sponsor someone. But those are some ways to get involved
Speaker 1: with a million dollar a thing. Well, you know the
Speaker 1: thing about it is that I, you know, two thousand
Speaker 1: I invested into stock. I you know, I was and
Speaker 1: I went with the theory of go for your shop.
Speaker 1: And I went to home. I shopped at home Depot,
Speaker 1: I shopped at I bought Microsoft, I bought Intail. You know,
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Speaker 1: we all know that wasn't a good bye. But but
Speaker 1: the good pretty good. You know, I was rocking now,
Speaker 1: I was rocking now, you know. But but but that
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Speaker 1: a lot of times if you if you're supporting it,
Speaker 1: then that's a good idea that you maybe that might
Speaker 1: be where you should put your money. So so when
Speaker 1: you look at your course, how does your course do
Speaker 1: for from other investing courses Terry. So there's yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a couple of things. One, so I agree with you
Speaker 1: that it's good to invest in companies that are that
Speaker 1: you're familiar with. But a lot of times that's called
Speaker 1: trend trading. A trend trader will just get into a
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Speaker 1: stock was not a good stock to invest in. So
Speaker 1: the difference is like learning how to do that technical
Speaker 1: analysis piece, learning how to actually time your trades correctly,
Speaker 1: learning that risk management piece. Those are key things that
Speaker 1: are different in my course than other courses. Wow and
Speaker 1: then yeah now now, so so that's the I'm doing
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Speaker 1: you eat, invest on where your shop, invest on where
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Speaker 1: T e R dot ai Fan Club. My next guest
Speaker 1: is on the phone. Want to thank you for calling
Speaker 1: in the show today. She's an entrepreneur, inventor, influencer social
Speaker 1: media wise as well, and former American TV personality. It
Speaker 1: is her passion for style. You need for comfort. You
Speaker 1: hear me, ladies, You hear Matt. Need for comfort that
Speaker 1: inspires shoe Gummy, the world's first out of soul pad
Speaker 1: and the only out of soul proven to prevent foot discomfort.
Speaker 1: Called by high Heels, please work on the money making conversation.
Speaker 1: The CEO and founder of shoe Gammy Chantel Jackson. Good morning, Seantel.
Speaker 1: Did I leat you out there? I put you at
Speaker 1: that pedalst you're supposed to be at for this interview. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm you're doing a lot of women right out there,
Speaker 1: but these high heels, because that is a fashion trend
Speaker 1: that has been around for ages, for years forever. It's
Speaker 1: not going anywhere, and so you are a person that
Speaker 1: that that possessed that style. Where are you based at?
Speaker 1: I am based in California right now? Okay, so you say,
Speaker 1: right now, where were you previously based? Umlass And I
Speaker 1: am from Miami. Okay, okay, okay, So you're saying Miami,
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, Los Angeles, So you were just making your
Speaker 1: way to the West coast. Yeah, okay, cool. Now let's
Speaker 1: talk about They sent me a series of questions that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask and and some questions I'm gonna add too,
Speaker 1: because I'm just a naturally curious person when I talk
Speaker 1: about people who are being success. One of the first
Speaker 1: questions they sent to me was when did the entrepreneurship
Speaker 1: bug bite you? Um? You know what, I was honestly
Speaker 1: at a point in my life where, um, certain things
Speaker 1: wasn't working out for me. I acting, I was going
Speaker 1: to act in class acting school, and I was just
Speaker 1: at a certain point and I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my all into this product and i
Speaker 1: want this to be my a plan and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with this and I want to give it a
Speaker 1: hundred percent. And that's what I did. Now, where were
Speaker 1: you at because we mentioned three cities we men to Miami,
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, and Los Angeles. When you were becoming frustrated
Speaker 1: and you had this idea, what city were you in?
Speaker 1: Uh l A, Los Angeles. I'm being a guy who
Speaker 1: pursued an acting career. I know the frustrations. You go
Speaker 1: to acting classes, you go to auditions, they tell you know,
Speaker 1: you don't know why they Why are they telling you know?
Speaker 1: You don't know if you deliver the line right? Did
Speaker 1: you do the commercial auditions as well as the theatrical
Speaker 1: auditions as well? Um? Yeah, I was doing both. But
Speaker 1: then I was also at a stage in my life
Speaker 1: where honestly just got a got out of a breakup.
Speaker 1: I was going through a lot and just acting it.
Speaker 1: I wasn't fit with that bug anymore. And I had
Speaker 1: this product and I knew how it worked for myself.
Speaker 1: So it was just that a ha moment, like you
Speaker 1: know what, this is what I need to go with
Speaker 1: right now. Now, this is really interesting because of the
Speaker 1: fact that you have this all hard moment, you have
Speaker 1: this product. This is what's really interesting about our conversation
Speaker 1: is that how did the product come about and how
Speaker 1: did you realize that it was It's a hard moment,
Speaker 1: can be functional and everybody else would want to participate
Speaker 1: in this a hard moment idea. So, just to be
Speaker 1: really honest, being obsessed with high heels, that is that
Speaker 1: was my inspiration behind shoes. Gut me wearing and being
Speaker 1: in shoes for over eight nins ten hours in a day. Um, honestly,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what a pair of sneakers were or
Speaker 1: a pair of flashes into the world unless I was
Speaker 1: working out. So high heels was my thing is my thing,
Speaker 1: and I just had to come up with the way
Speaker 1: for it to be more comfortable and shoot me with
Speaker 1: it now. So it was a lifestyle invention, a lifestyle
Speaker 1: invention to make your life more comfortable. Now, I'm a guy,
Speaker 1: so please explain helping y'all know the women already know
Speaker 1: we got these high heels. The ladies look fantastic in
Speaker 1: these high heels. What are they? What is the what
Speaker 1: is the pain that comes with wearing high heels. So
Speaker 1: just with being in high heels, your foot is in
Speaker 1: an unnatural position. Um, two, three, four or five inches
Speaker 1: If that's that's not a position for your foot, and
Speaker 1: then the weight bearing down in that position is what
Speaker 1: really kills you on the balls of your feet. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm in my studio. You know, I'm on my
Speaker 1: little tippy toes. I'm trying to I'm trying to feel
Speaker 1: your pain here, chan tell Okay, so I'm on my
Speaker 1: tippy toes and you're saying, imagine standing like this for
Speaker 1: eight hours a day. That's what you're saying, right exactly,
Speaker 1: or some women can't even stand the being the pair
Speaker 1: of hills an hour or two hours. And just imagine
Speaker 1: you're in that position and overt right over. Sevent of
Speaker 1: your body weight is on the balls of your feet
Speaker 1: for hours. Right now, let imasgine this what stops your
Speaker 1: foot from just sliding right on out? Um of the
Speaker 1: high yell one. If you have a closed toe shoe,
Speaker 1: then your foot's not gonna slide out, but it can
Speaker 1: slide and be crunched in the front, right, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Yeah, Um, if you have an open
Speaker 1: toes too. You have that little piece of that little
Speaker 1: strap in the front that helps. But a lot of
Speaker 1: women's feet because of the arch or the steepness in
Speaker 1: the shoe, do still slide forward. And shoe got me
Speaker 1: helps with that as well, right, so it stops their
Speaker 1: toes from going over to the edge on the edge
Speaker 1: of the shoe, right that you talk about. Okay, to
Speaker 1: have six sisters, so I've watched them do this high
Speaker 1: heel walking um dance for many years. Well, but I
Speaker 1: gotta play like I don't know to get more information. Okay,
Speaker 1: I can sit on this phone act like I know
Speaker 1: everything because you won't tell many things because the artists
Speaker 1: are walking away. Go. Well, I didn't learn anything for
Speaker 1: the interview because of the fact that this you you
Speaker 1: invented something and I was on my toes and I'm
Speaker 1: just to be honest with you, Rachean McDonald would not
Speaker 1: have stood there long. I would have been out of
Speaker 1: little shoes a long time ago because that just wasn't so.
Speaker 1: So you have let me just help help me out here.
Speaker 1: Because I've heard words like high heels, I've heard words
Speaker 1: like pumps. Now pumps are lower version of high heels correct. Um, No,
Speaker 1: not necessarily like UM, open toe shoe a pump. Those
Speaker 1: can be in the range of a two inch, three
Speaker 1: inchield four inch five and pump. A pump is a
Speaker 1: closed toe shoe, whether it's round at the front or appointed. Wow.
Speaker 1: So now we we we we got the experience. So
Speaker 1: you're saying that, hey, I'm gonna put this acting thing
Speaker 1: is not really doing it for me. I have this idea.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go all in. This is gonna be my
Speaker 1: plan A. How do you go to plan a with
Speaker 1: this idea? Because it's still just an idea? Do you
Speaker 1: do samples? Did you go to somebody, did you start
Speaker 1: telling them at flea markets or pop up boots? How
Speaker 1: did you get started? So? Um? Before I figured this
Speaker 1: is gonna be my plan a, I have been wearing
Speaker 1: my product for years already. Um. One day I was
Speaker 1: sitting and I thought, looking at my shoes, honestly, how
Speaker 1: can I make this more comfortable? I went to my
Speaker 1: shoe repair guy UM at the time, and I asked him,
Speaker 1: what is an amount of rubber that I can put
Speaker 1: on the bottom of my shoe? Um, and I can
Speaker 1: still walk in it safely and comfortable. So, uh, we
Speaker 1: came up with in size or an amount of rubber.
Speaker 1: I picked up the shoe about a week later, and
Speaker 1: I wore that shoe, and I kid you not, I
Speaker 1: was taking my shoes twenty and thirty pair at a
Speaker 1: time for him to put this extra rubber on the
Speaker 1: bottom of my shoe. M m hmm. So it was
Speaker 1: just like an idea. It's really it's really amazing that
Speaker 1: you were able to not saying that you care, not
Speaker 1: incapable of so many women out there probably feeling the
Speaker 1: same pain, and then you decided to just to take
Speaker 1: action on it. And when you took action on it,
Speaker 1: it enabled you to create a business. Now, how do
Speaker 1: you get into the business aspect of what you're doing?
Speaker 1: That's the that's the that's the key. Now you know
Speaker 1: you you went from a person who are wanted to
Speaker 1: be an actress. You got this idea, now you're putting
Speaker 1: it in action. How do we get into a business
Speaker 1: mode with it? So before anything, I thought, you know what,
Speaker 1: let me see if this is even a thing anywhere
Speaker 1: else or whatnot? What went to your girlfriends or you
Speaker 1: just went to your family members? Who did you go to? Um? No?
Speaker 1: I immediately went to a patent lawyer. I'm sorry, Richla,
Speaker 1: I was a little bit of pro I've been. I'm
Speaker 1: past that. I went to a patent lawyer. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I went to a patent lawyer, and we had
Speaker 1: to do what is called a patent research, which searches
Speaker 1: the database first to see if there's anything else in
Speaker 1: the US patent database. That is what shotgun me is
Speaker 1: and we've seen that it was not, and that where
Speaker 1: we moved forward. Had to get all the terminology, the
Speaker 1: lane going together to start to create my patent application. Wow.
Speaker 1: Now on your website said it took two and a
Speaker 1: half years for your patent to go through. Okay, now,
Speaker 1: were you're afraid that somebody will still your idea? What
Speaker 1: was going what was running through your mind in a
Speaker 1: two and a half of your period? Let me ask you.
Speaker 1: Let me back up. Were you selling your product at
Speaker 1: all at that time or you have to shut it
Speaker 1: down and just wait for your pattern to come through? No? No, honestly,
Speaker 1: at that point I wasn't selling products. I was still
Speaker 1: in research development phase, like the start start. So as
Speaker 1: soon as I winning got a patent attorney, I went
Speaker 1: and found a company that did cat designing and product
Speaker 1: development to help me start to get my shoe gummy
Speaker 1: uh designed together to make it a consumer product. Okay,
Speaker 1: and so so now two and a half years that period,
Speaker 1: you just just preparing because you feel very confident that
Speaker 1: you're gonna get through. You just don't know when that
Speaker 1: date's going to happen. You're still in Los Angeles right now,
Speaker 1: are you gathering are you gathering momentum work working on designs?
Speaker 1: Because I'm on your website and your use are amazing.
Speaker 1: By the way, are those your shoes or these are
Speaker 1: your shoes? You can just put the inserts in on
Speaker 1: your website. Uh, those are my shoes. Wow, when I
Speaker 1: say I'm a shoe set, these shoes are fantastic. Oh
Speaker 1: tell you. So these shoes off the chain right here,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this shoot on your home page. These
Speaker 1: the red, the yellow, that black. Oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I call it. That's my good bad habit. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll keep it up, keep this good habit going because
Speaker 1: of the fact that I'm just saying. You know, the
Speaker 1: thing about it is, we all know that as you
Speaker 1: look through life, as you deal with different situations, you
Speaker 1: have to be a believer in yourself. You have to
Speaker 1: have the right people around you. The fact that you
Speaker 1: came up with an idea basically to find comfort for
Speaker 1: your personal lifestyle, and then now you're able to use
Speaker 1: it to for financial benefit, it's pretty amazing. Chantel Jackson,
Speaker 1: you're the CEO, the founder of shoe got me, shoot,
Speaker 1: gut me. Now, let's let's I gotta at least find
Speaker 1: out where the title came from the name of the brand.
Speaker 1: Gum me. You know what I I I can't honestly
Speaker 1: tell you where it came from. It. It was just
Speaker 1: like I was writing down name and that one just
Speaker 1: came across my mind and it stuck out better than
Speaker 1: anything else, and so I kept it. And honestly, I've
Speaker 1: been told to change it is not right. Um, it
Speaker 1: sounds like something you eat. But I was like, this
Speaker 1: is what I want to go with, and that's what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. What crazy person told you to change it?
Speaker 1: What crazy person told you to change that? We won't
Speaker 1: say no. Just soon listened to him because the fact
Speaker 1: that you know, I don't know what Google means. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I don't know what Google means.
Speaker 1: Apple that's a computer company. Apple is fruit. So when
Speaker 1: people you have to go with it. What inspires you.
Speaker 1: That's a story behind everything that you do. You know.
Speaker 1: And when I heard the word names, you got me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you how I found you. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram. I'm I'm rolling through and now I
Speaker 1: see I come to you. You know, you got over
Speaker 1: a million followers. You're a social media influence. I just
Speaker 1: got my little, my little thirty seven thousand followers on Instagram.
Speaker 1: I'm big on Facebook now, don't don't know shut me
Speaker 1: down yet. I'm big on Facebook. But on Instagram, iBook,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to build my Facebook up. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: it's really hard because your Twitter is like ridiculous. Twitter
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Now, so you're you're you are a queen
Speaker 1: baller on Instagram and so and so. I bring this
Speaker 1: up because you're an entrepreneur and you're an attractive entrepreneur.
Speaker 1: Does that help you or hurt you when you're trying
Speaker 1: to get your brand out because as a brand, your
Speaker 1: great model for your brand. Just talk about that for
Speaker 1: a little bit, because you know, we're in me two
Speaker 1: generations where where people could look at an attractive woman
Speaker 1: and just have miss misdeed ideas in their head versus
Speaker 1: the business aspect of what you're trying to create. Talk
Speaker 1: about that balance that you have to create being an
Speaker 1: attractive woman in a male dominated business. Well, you know, honestly,
Speaker 1: with shoegunning in general, it's dominated by women. Were high
Speaker 1: you so, and it doesn't hurt for me to be
Speaker 1: attractive and be my own spokeswoman. I am on the
Speaker 1: box of my product. You know. Um, this is something
Speaker 1: I do day in and day out. I wear heels,
Speaker 1: I'm sexy. I want to be in my heels. I
Speaker 1: want to be comfortable. I don't want my my my
Speaker 1: I don't want to be at an event and I'm thinking, um, oh,
Speaker 1: I gotta leave because my eat hurt. Like this is
Speaker 1: what I right, right, right, right right, So it comes
Speaker 1: naturally and just with this it's generated towards women. So
Speaker 1: it's it is easy or easier. Now, tell me do
Speaker 1: you go to conventions? Do you go to do you
Speaker 1: pop up? How is your brand soul? Is it majority
Speaker 1: online that your product is sold? Or do you do
Speaker 1: conventions and conferences and women are like essence or you
Speaker 1: know the celebration of sisters and uh circular sisters in
Speaker 1: New York City large scale female conventions. How do you
Speaker 1: promote your brand because you have such a tremendous following.
Speaker 1: So as of right now, it's my own online based
Speaker 1: sales which have been doing tremendously honestly, because of what's
Speaker 1: going on right now in the world, things have ow
Speaker 1: down a lot, but I am blessed with still getting
Speaker 1: customers here and there. But it's not stopping um my show,
Speaker 1: and I still have to continue on. You know, I
Speaker 1: have other things too to produce and work on. Still, well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about those other things. You know they say
Speaker 1: that you have other products, uh that you want to
Speaker 1: talk about. Let's talk about some of your future ideas
Speaker 1: fancy goods. Uh so fancy goods. Honestly, let me kind
Speaker 1: of take it back a little bit. O. Shoe gut
Speaker 1: me has been primarily my thing for like five and
Speaker 1: a half years now. Congratulations here and a half, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. It's been a long time coming. And when
Speaker 1: I say a long time, just with so much uh
Speaker 1: wanting to quit heartache with why can't this just be
Speaker 1: something easy? Like have no idea? But WHI shoes got me?
Speaker 1: About a year ago. Um, I was like, uh, this
Speaker 1: is just stagnant right now, I have to do something.
Speaker 1: So I came up with Fancy Goods and I just
Speaker 1: went out on a whim and produced an eyelash company. Um,
Speaker 1: that's something something else that I'm obsessed, obsessed with. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to the website. See if I see some applight,
Speaker 1: I see the eye lashes, I definitely see that. Okay, cool? Continue? Um,
Speaker 1: So which I love you know I love about you
Speaker 1: Sean tell you are your brand? Yes, yes, very true.
Speaker 1: You know if you got about the shoes, you got them.
Speaker 1: Now you said you know some eyelashes. That's me and
Speaker 1: so it's nothing phony about what you're saying in this interview.
Speaker 1: You you sell the lifestyle that you live, which means
Speaker 1: that you're authentic. That's awesome, yes, which honestly makes it
Speaker 1: easy Like and just to create content for myself, Like
Speaker 1: you know what if I'm getting up, um, getting dressed,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put on my own lashes. I get free
Speaker 1: content videos, all that to continue to post and all
Speaker 1: that good stuff. It just comes easy. But with starting
Speaker 1: Fancy Goods, I was like, you know what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take this amount of money and I'm gonna see I
Speaker 1: can flip it. We all know, like, well some people
Speaker 1: know eyelashes is a real saturated market. But I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna take this. I'm gonna see
Speaker 1: what it does. And in about three months, I had
Speaker 1: this company up and running from getting samples from vendors,
Speaker 1: taking pictures, building the website on my own. And honestly,
Speaker 1: it's almost coming up on a year of launching fancy
Speaker 1: goods and it's doing pretty well. So it so you're
Speaker 1: like a little you've becoming a little, a little mogul
Speaker 1: over there in the beauty beauty brand business. Correct, because
Speaker 1: now you got the shoes, You got the shoe, got
Speaker 1: me things happening and shoes, and now you have the
Speaker 1: lush lashes. Yes, okay, cool Now you didn't you didn't
Speaker 1: have to deal with any patent issues with the lush lashes. Correct? No, No, okay,
Speaker 1: cool now issues? Okay, cool. Now we're going to the
Speaker 1: skin care products. Now you have naturally beautiful skin, and
Speaker 1: just talk about chic with a cheep beaute or chip
Speaker 1: beautae beauty cheep beauty Okay. Coop uh So, a former
Speaker 1: agent of mind. She came to me with an idea
Speaker 1: about a sponge, and she knows how I pride myself
Speaker 1: in skincare and all of that stuff, so she brought
Speaker 1: this idea to me. She asked about certain types of
Speaker 1: phones and things like that, so I pointed her in
Speaker 1: the right direction. Uh. She's also a steamstress, so she
Speaker 1: had all these industrial machines too, So together the sponges
Speaker 1: and all that good stuff. So we got the We
Speaker 1: got the right home. We put it together for a year,
Speaker 1: a year and a half, tested it out ourselves, and
Speaker 1: I just thought it was time to go with it.
Speaker 1: And so maybe not even a month ago, we launched that.
Speaker 1: I built the website for us, and we are active. Honestly.
Speaker 1: It's come at a time where things are so slow
Speaker 1: right now. But if you don't put that, if you
Speaker 1: don't put that foot forward out there, then you don't
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. Absolutely, we know the thing
Speaker 1: about I just we all know why it's slow. We
Speaker 1: all understand that people people don't you know, people right
Speaker 1: down struggling to find out how to put their foot
Speaker 1: forward in anything right now. The thing I like about
Speaker 1: you is that you're not letting conditions stop you from
Speaker 1: moving forward. Because I tell people, I tell people all
Speaker 1: the time, this is a good time to catch up.
Speaker 1: It's a good time to plan. You see, right now,
Speaker 1: I'm planning for the third and the fourth quarter right now,
Speaker 1: because I know right now this country, this country is
Speaker 1: gonna get back on his feet. And when it gets
Speaker 1: back on his feet, it's not going gonna be walking fat.
Speaker 1: It's gonna start running. And what you don't want to
Speaker 1: do is sit on your rear, end on your behind,
Speaker 1: or mope around and talking about, oh man, what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do. No, you're planning, You're thinking and thought this
Speaker 1: whole interview, Chantelle, that's all. That's My biggest takeaway from
Speaker 1: you is that you're not a person that sits around
Speaker 1: in mopes. You're not a person to go if it's
Speaker 1: not happening over here, oh always me, I just is
Speaker 1: not gonna happen for me, you go. What's playing a
Speaker 1: over here that I can build on? Is that? Is
Speaker 1: that something that came from your parents? It's something that
Speaker 1: just a natural quality in you. Um. I would definitely
Speaker 1: say my parents have helped with that, especially my dad.
Speaker 1: My dad owns a pest control service. In Florida. So um,
Speaker 1: he's an entrepreneur himself, so I have taken those good
Speaker 1: qualities from him. Well, also my mom like he's a
Speaker 1: very hard worker, still go to school and she's uh
Speaker 1: sixty three years old. I believe I love it, love it,
Speaker 1: love it. I would tell people, don't let age determine
Speaker 1: your dream. Don't let age tell you can stop being
Speaker 1: something that everybody else tells you shouldn't be. I always
Speaker 1: look at people at my age. I go you to
Speaker 1: my same age, I'm really shocked because I know I
Speaker 1: don't look like you. It is when people will decide
Speaker 1: that they need to retire in life, is when age
Speaker 1: jumps on their back. Chantell, I don't think age is
Speaker 1: ever gonna jump on your high heel, Wind Lush Wind
Speaker 1: skin tone product self at all. You're gonna be in
Speaker 1: front of the curve. You're gonna like it's it's a
Speaker 1: whole lot of people. By the time you're making the
Speaker 1: A RP. You're gonna have a whole lot of shoes
Speaker 1: and gummies and our last is for that group of people.
Speaker 1: See that's what I love about you. You are You're
Speaker 1: not gonna stop. So Donty could your tone kind of
Speaker 1: drop down a little bit. We said, well, it's kind
Speaker 1: of slow right now. Don't worry about that. Oh no,
Speaker 1: for sure, honestly, like, I still have some like you said,
Speaker 1: work to catch up on names that I was pooping
Speaker 1: off that now I have more times to do. Um. Um,
Speaker 1: it's definitely a blessing that my my manufacturers in Maine
Speaker 1: and they're still open. So I'm working on color samples.
Speaker 1: Um getting different coloring in place. Um. I have a
Speaker 1: larger and a smaller size for me that I'm working
Speaker 1: to get cooling cut for. Are you still popping euro
Speaker 1: well again, I wanted. I got six sisters. I love
Speaker 1: them to death. We'll talk later. I would I got
Speaker 1: a twenty two year daughter. I would love for get
Speaker 1: her right, Get her right, because she's not wearing nothing
Speaker 1: you have on your website, and she's five ft nine
Speaker 1: inches all beautiful, young lady, beautiful, young, very smart on
Speaker 1: a student studying to be game design at the University
Speaker 1: of Houston right now their online But you know she's
Speaker 1: been an honor student for the last four semesters in
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Speaker 1: pair of your shoegummies and your stylish high heels and
Speaker 1: your lush lashes. I think will be a great birthday
Speaker 1: president because her birthday president, her birthday is in June,
Speaker 1: so I might surprise that was with your with your
Speaker 1: with a whole lineout from you, with a picture of
Speaker 1: you in the box. I go, I know her, you know,
Speaker 1: you know. I love like tell people. I know famous people.
Speaker 1: See shot Tell is famous. And so I said, she said,
Speaker 1: she said, she said, daddy, you know her absolutely less. Mcgirl.
Speaker 1: I lost Angeles by way of Vegas and Miami. Her daddy,
Speaker 1: you know, made pesticide business. That's where he came from.
Speaker 1: Mama's still in school, she's doing nothing. I want to
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the show. I really want
Speaker 1: to appreciate you, and I want to tell you an inspiration.
Speaker 1: I want to tell you that they'll change. I wanta
Speaker 1: tell you that you're an entrepreneur and you're you're changing
Speaker 1: the game for a lot of young women out there.
Speaker 1: My daughter, she's just twenty two, and I want her
Speaker 1: to know that you are an inspiration to her. And
Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking the time to coming on money
Speaker 1: on money making conversations. Thank you, chantell oh no, thank
Speaker 1: you I appreciate the opportunity and we'll talk soon. Okay.
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Speaker 1: My next guest is the co founder and CEO of
Speaker 1: Miss Jesse LLC, the company behind the premium hair care
Speaker 1: product line. You know I'm ball headed, so you know
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about hair care, but won't be offended
Speaker 1: by they all. Miss Jesse exclusively caters to the diverse
Speaker 1: spectrum of all curly hair types. I used to have
Speaker 1: curly hair type. I used to be back in the day,
Speaker 1: was out in the college. You would you you you
Speaker 1: couldn't say tell me nothing at all, Please work on
Speaker 1: the money making conversation, Ko Branch Nicole. I'd have no company.
Speaker 1: I'd have little comments about you know, you're talking about
Speaker 1: curly hand you know, fine looking hair care, and you
Speaker 1: know I got some hair, but I don't think I
Speaker 1: can find it as quickly as I used to find
Speaker 1: the NKO. You know that's okay. We know you have curls.
Speaker 1: Good good. I love the respect. I love the respect.
Speaker 1: We'll walk up to money making conversation. Nico. How are
Speaker 1: you are you are you doing? And said you founded
Speaker 1: the company with your sister, right, yeah, just so good
Speaker 1: to be here, Rashan, so good to speak to you.
Speaker 1: And yes, I started the company with my late great sister,
Speaker 1: speaking branch and we started our business and our brownstone
Speaker 1: light of our kitchen table. Okay, wow, okay, first of all,
Speaker 1: thank you for that, for being happy to be on
Speaker 1: my show. Where are you calling from right now? So
Speaker 1: right now I'm calling you talk Florida, Miami. I'm what
Speaker 1: I was able to get here. Yeah, Miami. The good
Speaker 1: food down there. I went to a restaurant called hif
Speaker 1: Havannah eighteen fifty seven, very good restaurant. I went down
Speaker 1: there when I was down there from January. So I
Speaker 1: love with Miami. I love being down there now on
Speaker 1: your kitchen table. Now see that that's that's really a
Speaker 1: dream to say you started at the at some place
Speaker 1: where you would eat breakfast, launcher dinner and that's what
Speaker 1: that's that's what the idea of the concept of and
Speaker 1: of of what you what you has become a successful
Speaker 1: brand and a trusted brand among women of color. Correct. Correct.
Speaker 1: I think our humble beginnings UM was really a nice
Speaker 1: way to connect with our customers. Luckily were Sister Tip
Speaker 1: and our able to make products that really worked. And
Speaker 1: when we started sharing the products from Talan Home stay
Speaker 1: On really really caught fire. And uh we even marketing
Speaker 1: and making products for people who had similar here to
Speaker 1: The interesting thing about it because that's what that's what
Speaker 1: makes it is authentic because you use it, because you
Speaker 1: made a product that you use. It's almost like what
Speaker 1: happened to Madam C. J. Walker, you know, back in
Speaker 1: the day, and it's your journey is is fast forward.
Speaker 1: There's still no difference. You know, she was an inspirational
Speaker 1: woman who had an idea, saw a need for African
Speaker 1: American women and also for so need that can make
Speaker 1: them look good about themselves. Isn't that the bottom line
Speaker 1: about your product is about making women feel good about themselves,
Speaker 1: Making women feel that that that they're that what they's
Speaker 1: been given to him them by God. They don't have
Speaker 1: to straighten it. They don't have to do all these
Speaker 1: different things. They can actually just live this lifestyle and
Speaker 1: be comfortable correct cut. That is the bottom line is
Speaker 1: shown that. But the bottom line is being able to succeed.
Speaker 1: Products that are helpful is not you know, just not
Speaker 1: limited to women. It's for for everyone, including them, including
Speaker 1: little boys. Um. Anyone who's had texture wants the solution
Speaker 1: is jesse as really and you know, to make make
Speaker 1: things that worked and uh and making that work. So
Speaker 1: now when I was, when I was, when I was
Speaker 1: doing research on you and you was talking about the
Speaker 1: diverse curly hair types they named you know, you know
Speaker 1: the whole thing is that you named the product after
Speaker 1: your paternal grandmother, jesse May Branch. So so this whole brand,
Speaker 1: it seems so natural, so authentic, because you go, where
Speaker 1: do you get that name from? Well, that's my paternal grandmother.
Speaker 1: So what what what was the inspirational instincts that she
Speaker 1: had that that said, you know something we're gonna put
Speaker 1: We're gonna put her name on our product. M h.
Speaker 1: Our grandmother, jesse Um played such a huge role in
Speaker 1: our in our family and particularly in the lives of
Speaker 1: me and my sister teachings. You know, we spent a
Speaker 1: lot of summaries and a lot of times sitting on
Speaker 1: there my grandmother is kitching table, and you know, she
Speaker 1: happened to be a great cook. But if you sat
Speaker 1: around Jessie me grand you couldn't just sit there. You
Speaker 1: had to be a very very good helper. So it
Speaker 1: wasn't uncommon for TP and I to mix the measure
Speaker 1: to stir the poor a little disney. Know that that
Speaker 1: experience of being a wonderful helper to our grandmother would
Speaker 1: be the speed for us to create sus that work.
Speaker 1: But you know, outside of her, you know are seeing
Speaker 1: great health is and her being a wonderful cook. She
Speaker 1: was also the first CEO we've ever seen, the first
Speaker 1: female CEO we've ever seen, and that that woman ruled
Speaker 1: our family from her kitchen table. So uh, TP and
Speaker 1: I did not go to business school, so when it
Speaker 1: came time for us to make decisions in our own business,
Speaker 1: we often tapped into what would yes you do. It's
Speaker 1: really amazing because you know, we all know the times
Speaker 1: that we are living in and guess what they're not
Speaker 1: gonna change. It's because to change the way we wear clothes,
Speaker 1: the way we interact, where we where we shake hands
Speaker 1: or whether we greet people and social distancing. You are
Speaker 1: in a business where hair salons very intimate environments. How
Speaker 1: is that affecting right now? You know a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of states are on lockdown. We know they're
Speaker 1: gonna get out of that pretty soon, I believe in
Speaker 1: the MONTHA made you know, especially with them ordering mask
Speaker 1: to be worn now and things of that nature, how
Speaker 1: is that affecting it? Because one of your questions about
Speaker 1: how you're navigating this whole period that now doing the
Speaker 1: outbreak and practice and safe social distancing. Talk to us
Speaker 1: about that. So when they say that God works in
Speaker 1: amazing ways, you know he truly does. You know, UM
Speaker 1: over a decade ago and more than a decade ago,
Speaker 1: when Keeping and I first started making products, we really
Speaker 1: focused on the customer and giving her the information to
Speaker 1: on her is how to give us here is how
Speaker 1: to do all these things at home. It was less
Speaker 1: about arm in the style is, but more about teaching
Speaker 1: us how to do our own hair. So fast forward
Speaker 1: to what'll happening now and all of the UM social
Speaker 1: distancing and everything that's going on, the good believes is
Speaker 1: that through the natural hair movement. Many of us have
Speaker 1: had a head to start on how to take products
Speaker 1: like Miss Jesse, bring them home and to be able
Speaker 1: to care for our hair. You know. So in times
Speaker 1: like this I don't worry a lot about us because
Speaker 1: I know that we're very We're very good at what
Speaker 1: we do. We have the dexterity we have to know
Speaker 1: how and we've been trained. When I say we, I
Speaker 1: include myself as a customer. We've been trained on how
Speaker 1: to do our hair all along. So at this point,
Speaker 1: you know, many people know and love Miss Jesse to
Speaker 1: know how to use it, so in these times they're
Speaker 1: actually using it more, you know. So God has just
Speaker 1: been so good and that he's taught us. He's taught
Speaker 1: peeping out how to share in the nation. But He's
Speaker 1: also are many of us that want to do in
Speaker 1: a case like this, and many of us the self sufficient.
Speaker 1: Now I was had social media played the role and
Speaker 1: some of the things have you done like do it
Speaker 1: yourself videos and things like that on YouTube? How How
Speaker 1: how's your presence been? You know, you're the you know,
Speaker 1: the matriarchy, the voice, you the founder, one of the
Speaker 1: founders of this company. How how has your role changed
Speaker 1: during this time period and in the future, you know
Speaker 1: you've done my role. You know, it's it's changed in
Speaker 1: some ways, but it's also remained the same way. Before
Speaker 1: social media. There's even a thing teaching. And I spoke
Speaker 1: to our customer on ours the landslore thank god for
Speaker 1: the Internet, and that at the time in the chat
Speaker 1: room when women were talking and thank god you maybe
Speaker 1: you're making products that work, and each one told one
Speaker 1: about this job curl Magic. It was clearly putting at
Speaker 1: the time, and it was groundbreaking because there was nothing
Speaker 1: like it in the market. And that was express fire.
Speaker 1: Jessie was being mixed at the kitchen table Rashaan before
Speaker 1: they were going Viral was the word, right right, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: way before social media. So now social media is a
Speaker 1: more interactive way how to get the good world out. Um,
Speaker 1: but social media is just an additional platform. Was being
Speaker 1: able to connect with our customers and to give her
Speaker 1: all of the information that you need so she can
Speaker 1: continue to do all the great things for her here
Speaker 1: and us the right product. We know, it's really interesting
Speaker 1: you say that because I know when I was managing
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey, you know, we were remember two thousand seven.
Speaker 1: That's when social media started a peak on every appear
Speaker 1: on everybody's radar. You look on TV and you see
Speaker 1: the Twitter, Twitter little tag or the host names and
Speaker 1: ambulance names and things like that. But we had our
Speaker 1: little fan club. We had like eight hundred thousand fan
Speaker 1: club members, and so we knew when we said out
Speaker 1: a fan club to that they wanted us. They signed
Speaker 1: up for that. But like you're saying, you use, you're
Speaker 1: balancing both. You're balancing what you how you built your
Speaker 1: brand with this new technique, but not leaving the technique
Speaker 1: that started you. And that's really important because as we
Speaker 1: all know, it's like you know, it's like if you
Speaker 1: live and if you live your life and only know
Speaker 1: how to live your life through electricity, what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: when you lose electricity? And that's what you're saying here.
Speaker 1: If you if you built the foundation, and that's what
Speaker 1: we're talking about right now. We're talking about building the
Speaker 1: foundation that started at your kitchen table, just started on
Speaker 1: the internet, that started with fan club, just started with emails,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, this this this social
Speaker 1: media that has taken over the world. You go, that's
Speaker 1: just a blessing right there, because we're not gonna stop
Speaker 1: doing what we're doing. We're just gonna add that to
Speaker 1: the blessing. The opportunity training that really really betimes inspirational.
Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing that on my show. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: just being able to create that foundation. And the key was,
Speaker 1: you know, making egging conducts truly work. You know during
Speaker 1: these times there are no tricks, there is no social
Speaker 1: media marketing. Again, it's it's truly just the foundation um
Speaker 1: to be able to be built on with social media,
Speaker 1: with people in music, to spread the good word about
Speaker 1: Miss Jess. Now, when we were talking about what role
Speaker 1: did did your paternal grandmother played in your life? That
Speaker 1: that sounded like some paternal grandmother information that you just
Speaker 1: broke off on us on the show before we went
Speaker 1: to break right, Nicole, Yes, yes, yes, you know what
Speaker 1: it's called. It's called love and if you're able to
Speaker 1: spead love, everybody be able to receive it in the
Speaker 1: right way, no gimmicks, just the real thing. Cool. Now,
Speaker 1: before I left, I did a little you know, a
Speaker 1: little tease and everything about what we're about to talk about.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about some of the Miss Jesse's signature
Speaker 1: product lines educated not only with Sean mcgone, but my
Speaker 1: listeners because we know it's on the store shelves. You know,
Speaker 1: I going, I going wall rings, the cvs, UH different targets,
Speaker 1: stores and things like that. And you know, mostly in
Speaker 1: in the CVS and the walk when they have an
Speaker 1: UH Minority highcare or African American hair care products section,
Speaker 1: that's where your product will be found correct there and
Speaker 1: and there, and it's kind of other places, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 1: And so let's talk about some of your signature product lines. Well,
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell the Miss Jestice's story proper if I
Speaker 1: didn't even create our first product, which was curly putting.
Speaker 1: Curly putting with the ground breaker, the game changer. It
Speaker 1: was curly. It's the pudding that's purple. It did everything
Speaker 1: it said it was going to do, returned your fizzy
Speaker 1: flows into curly cues and people just loved it. And
Speaker 1: then you know, Miss Jesse's were innovators. So later on
Speaker 1: we will come out with Pelesft Curl. We were able
Speaker 1: to marry hairkit technology with fabriage ship technology and it
Speaker 1: gives such a soft and nice, touchable um curl. But
Speaker 1: that there's also products like jelly Salt curls. Jelly Soft
Speaker 1: curls is another innovator, and that it's to jail, but
Speaker 1: it's so soft for sean. You know, anyone can use it,
Speaker 1: whether you're a man, if you want to create your waves,
Speaker 1: or whether you want to just you know, do curls.
Speaker 1: Anyone's music. And of course we have new products. Now
Speaker 1: we have our new so free Harmony not you can
Speaker 1: get it in CVS. It's gonna too um. It's the
Speaker 1: one is for gentile but so soft, selfish state shampool
Speaker 1: and everyone is really loving it. Right now. You want
Speaker 1: me to go on, I'm on the website. I'm on
Speaker 1: the website, the Miss Jesse website. You know, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at stylars for wavy hair, products for curly hair, tight
Speaker 1: curly stylers for kinky hair. Then you come down here
Speaker 1: you got the you know, the curl collection. See see
Speaker 1: the wavy, the curly, the kinky, the transitioners or come on,
Speaker 1: now you got something for everybody, the multicultural curls god
Speaker 1: tag Miss Jesse. I love it. I love it. You
Speaker 1: are than everybody, everybody, It's true, and we just got
Speaker 1: the news in today. I'm Kanye West, like Kin Kardashian
Speaker 1: Um was just posted some on the lower magazines by
Speaker 1: Celebrity here songs on Andrews six centers and he loves
Speaker 1: miss Jessie and we were just so excited to see
Speaker 1: if he needs Miss jesse hold me down on kicks
Speaker 1: Dashians baby there. So we truly are coming up something
Speaker 1: We'll just tell you, you know. You know, that's like
Speaker 1: that that's like the blessing of the year right there,
Speaker 1: because the Kardashes don't play around what they follow us.
Speaker 1: They follow us are crazy good and loyal. That's like
Speaker 1: you can't buy that when when you have somebody that
Speaker 1: for a post, somebody has to pay a half million
Speaker 1: dollars to post, you know, they brand how how their
Speaker 1: engagement and when they tell people to go in a
Speaker 1: certain direction, what that means for your brand? And that's
Speaker 1: like I said, if you just keep telling your story.
Speaker 1: And like I said, when we when you started talking,
Speaker 1: you know, I get curious, So I said, let's see
Speaker 1: what she's talking about. What she's talking about now with
Speaker 1: just a website, you're not just kidding you. You've done
Speaker 1: your research. You know. We may have started on the
Speaker 1: kitchen table, but you're not on the kitchen table no more,
Speaker 1: not in the two thousand and four when you start
Speaker 1: in mind, you know you in Miami, you way above
Speaker 1: the lane. So what what made you believe that you
Speaker 1: needed all this? And I'm just asking a general question
Speaker 1: because out of curiosity, you know a lot of people
Speaker 1: want stand the lane. But you got the wavy hair,
Speaker 1: the curly hair, the tight curly, the kiky hair, which
Speaker 1: lets you know the research that all curly hair is
Speaker 1: not alike, so you have to have so you have
Speaker 1: to have, you know, a hair care for that particular style.
Speaker 1: That's what it is that I am I saying the
Speaker 1: right things. Well, I'll put this way. You know, whether
Speaker 1: you curly kick away, there's something for you. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not uncommon Russian for two people, you know, to
Speaker 1: use the same products. And that's the thing about clearly
Speaker 1: here is it had a way or dealing with texts here.
Speaker 1: Miss Steptin's had a wonderful way of speaking to many
Speaker 1: different um cultures, many different ethnicities because there was a
Speaker 1: common ground. And that's what I love so much about
Speaker 1: what we do. We're not just talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: the little girl. We're not just talking about we're not
Speaker 1: just talking to women, We're talking to men. Whether you're
Speaker 1: African American, whether you're Latina, whether you're you know, we
Speaker 1: we have something for you. And I think we're all
Speaker 1: looking for solutions and it has no color, you know,
Speaker 1: So I think being helpful as the key. So just
Speaker 1: as you know, we were stay focused on that and
Speaker 1: we were able to build our products line based on
Speaker 1: we're just trying to come up with a solution to
Speaker 1: be helpful. And you're doing and you do a lot
Speaker 1: of people. I interview a lot of people on this
Speaker 1: show and I didn't bless to interview a lot of
Speaker 1: people in the hair care business. And my number one
Speaker 1: takeaway is that you provide information. You provide more information
Speaker 1: about hairstyles than I've ever interviewed anybody on this show.
Speaker 1: Because when I go to this one page, well, you
Speaker 1: get a description. You actually get a description of what
Speaker 1: a waving hair is. You get a description of what
Speaker 1: the curly hair is, you get a description of what
Speaker 1: a kinky hairstyle is. A transitioners whether the what the
Speaker 1: what type of hairstyle is. In other words, if you
Speaker 1: don't know, now you know when you come to Miss
Speaker 1: Jesse and that to me is that that type of
Speaker 1: detail tells me why you are who you are. You
Speaker 1: leave no doubt. One thing I've learned is information is
Speaker 1: what makes people successful. Information and communication is key to success.
Speaker 1: You know, you sat down and not only launched a
Speaker 1: new product, but you said, I'm gonna educate people about
Speaker 1: our product and also tell them how our product works
Speaker 1: for them. You you took out, You took all of
Speaker 1: the all of the was and what they say, doubt
Speaker 1: are the questions out of the servant because you're covering
Speaker 1: every hairstyle here, every hairstyle. So my question to you,
Speaker 1: my question to you is this. And I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk too much because this is your show, this
Speaker 1: is your moment, and I'm just excited because I'm being
Speaker 1: you know, all this great differmat I'm an information guy.
Speaker 1: When I started getting information, I'm being educated because I
Speaker 1: started off the show with the little jokes about me
Speaker 1: being bald headed and they ain't got no hair and
Speaker 1: all that. Now now I'm like, wow, wow, Miss Jesse
Speaker 1: is the bomb. She's the original, she's the queen, she's
Speaker 1: the beast, she's the mover in the shape you and
Speaker 1: I am. I am I putting too much up on you. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think ros Sean, I think less.
Speaker 1: You know, for me, it's just hard for me to
Speaker 1: not stay focused on our mention and what we're trying
Speaker 1: to do. And I just nearly stay focused on coming
Speaker 1: up with those solutions because I know people they want
Speaker 1: to be their best and I think for many years,
Speaker 1: many of us, particularly the person with the tighter coil curl,
Speaker 1: we have been straightened our hair for so many years.
Speaker 1: So information was the key. She needed to know that
Speaker 1: her hair is beautiful. She needed to know that her
Speaker 1: hair is special, and she needed to be lined up
Speaker 1: with the right products that are gonna make her hair
Speaker 1: do all the wonderful things that it can do. And
Speaker 1: I think that's why information was so key. You know,
Speaker 1: my sister and I spent a lot of time in
Speaker 1: our kitchen table mixing, and we're also hairstylus. But we
Speaker 1: realized that our work was not finished and that we
Speaker 1: did had to we did have to educate and just
Speaker 1: take it, you know, rewind and just start from scratch
Speaker 1: and just kind of let people know or let them
Speaker 1: know that this is what we were working with and
Speaker 1: you have this kind of hair and here are the
Speaker 1: products that work. That's with that. And I think that
Speaker 1: that communication that you spoke about was really it was
Speaker 1: it was the foundation for the relationship between Miss Jesse's
Speaker 1: and our customers. Okay, then you know I'm playing with
Speaker 1: your website, right, So I'm just going around just clicking
Speaker 1: the navigation and everything, just reading about your story and
Speaker 1: just talking about your story to the public and that
Speaker 1: everybody know. I'm in all of Miko Branch and the
Speaker 1: Miss jesse original brand. Then I came across the curl Bar,
Speaker 1: Miss Jesse's curl Bar. What is that? That looks so cool?
Speaker 1: Boot By Appointment down in fourth Lawida there, Florida. See,
Speaker 1: that wasn't on none of my questions. That sounds so
Speaker 1: that sounds hot right there. Tell me about the Miss
Speaker 1: jesse curl Bar that's down there. I'm assuming it's the
Speaker 1: only location is down in fourth Lawida, Florida. Correct, Well,
Speaker 1: ra Sean, Mis Jessy's Curlbar was born out of Miss
Speaker 1: Jesse's Salon and MS Salon was actually created and our
Speaker 1: brownstone in the best of Cybus and section of Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: which at the time was known as the hood where
Speaker 1: we built our business. Yes, that is where we built
Speaker 1: our business and that became our R and D in
Speaker 1: our testing ground or products that work out here in
Speaker 1: the market. So part of this Jestine's heritage is the salon.
Speaker 1: It's where we connected with our customer and it's where
Speaker 1: we figure out what products are necessary to be put
Speaker 1: out here. We don't. We try our best not to
Speaker 1: come out with products just to put them on shelves
Speaker 1: to make money. Although we are in the business to
Speaker 1: ultimately make money, we use that salon to really really
Speaker 1: understand what's needed. So, whether we're in brook the New York,
Speaker 1: whether we're in our soho in New York, or whether
Speaker 1: we're in Florida, Miss Jessie's always loved having a place
Speaker 1: for someone can come in if they hear done, if
Speaker 1: they want you. So now we're in Fort Lauda Dale,
Speaker 1: so it is by appointment only. If you wanted to
Speaker 1: come and get your hair done, you can. But right
Speaker 1: now most of the states and now in Steed in Florida,
Speaker 1: due to what's going on, absolutely absolutely a little break. Well.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you again again that's why you're successful. See,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this. If this if rus Sean
Speaker 1: McDonald sounds like he's bragging on Nicole Branch. I am.
Speaker 1: I am because here she's telling you right now, the
Speaker 1: salon allows her to find out if what they're delivering
Speaker 1: is the real deal. Right there. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: companies out They just put stuff on the shelf. They
Speaker 1: don't know if it's working. They don't know if if
Speaker 1: a customers say, oh, that birds my hair, but there's
Speaker 1: nothing for my hair. They know for a fact, they
Speaker 1: know they understand their brand. And before we get off
Speaker 1: the call, I want to know, because you are a
Speaker 1: brand master, you are a trend setter over the last
Speaker 1: few years. What have you noticed the beauty hair care
Speaker 1: industry trends and changes over the last years. Minko, Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not just saying it because I'm
Speaker 1: miss Jesse's. But you know now he is preferred. You
Speaker 1: could brag on my show. You could brag on my show.
Speaker 1: I've already been bragging on you for two breaks. See it.
Speaker 1: You see it on Olfra, you see it on Michelle Obama,
Speaker 1: you see it everywhere Nashville. Here, curly here is preferred.
Speaker 1: It's how people want to express themselves. It's no longer
Speaker 1: you know, a beauty idea to wear straight. Here we're
Speaker 1: embracing all that God gave us naturally, and that is
Speaker 1: the trend, and that trend is here. It's not a trend,
Speaker 1: it's actually here to stay. And people are just really
Speaker 1: becoming more and more pleased with what God gave them naturally.
Speaker 1: And Miss Jesse is just so happy to be a
Speaker 1: part of it all. There you go. See, I knew,
Speaker 1: I knew I could just turn that key jets right
Speaker 1: and you just start RadCasting the person that you are.
Speaker 1: I would let you talk like that any time you
Speaker 1: come on my show. Understand you are a blessing. You
Speaker 1: are a visionary. You are what we need to hear,
Speaker 1: both men and women in this world, all diverse colors
Speaker 1: and races that we have about that. You need to
Speaker 1: understand that through hard work, believing in the dream, committed
Speaker 1: to information, doing the work, and willing to test your
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Speaker 1: My next guest is on the phone. She is an actress.
Speaker 1: You have seen her in the following movies. I'm leaving
Speaker 1: out a few, but I just want to mention these
Speaker 1: movies House Party, Skin, Deep, Think, Oil, Sister Acting, Baby Boy.
Speaker 1: She's a TV producer, life coach, fitness guru. I need
Speaker 1: that conversation, Philanthis. She's an HBCU grad with a psychology
Speaker 1: and chemistry degree from Spellman College right in Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 1: She is currently appearing on the UMC series Stuck with You,
Speaker 1: Please work on the moneymaking Conversation. A J. Johnson, Hi,
Speaker 1: Hasan how are you? Thank you for having me? Well?
Speaker 1: Thank you. I knew that bringing you on the show
Speaker 1: you were gonna come with the energy you know you
Speaker 1: can't have you can't be a fitness gree and be
Speaker 1: laid back. You know that that wouldn't work. Well, well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you mean. Some people are some
Speaker 1: people have a very way back approach to fitness. I
Speaker 1: think I'm just fueled with my passionately just reached from
Speaker 1: my better self, and every day is another opportunity to
Speaker 1: do that. So I'm listening. I'm excited with my eyes
Speaker 1: pop open. And you get me. First thing in the morning,
Speaker 1: you get me fresh good. No, no afternoon energy, no
Speaker 1: late afternoon energy. The day is beating you up. I'm
Speaker 1: getting your earl. That's that's great, agent, And let's just
Speaker 1: go back about you. Like I mentioned in your credits
Speaker 1: about being an HBCU grant and I'm always promoting HBCUs
Speaker 1: on my I do a big event in Wilmington, Della
Speaker 1: in a HBCU week and I'm gonna do a lot
Speaker 1: of more things and twenty one and bo because I
Speaker 1: feel the brand of HBCUs are just just not recognized
Speaker 1: for the contributions that they make incorporate. They get recognized
Speaker 1: for the athlete, and you get recognized for the mauching bands.
Speaker 1: Was the impact of Spellman had on you, has has
Speaker 1: had on your carein is having on your life. Oh man, listen,
Speaker 1: and you know we've just celebrated our hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: ninth UH anniversary. Founder's Day was this past weekend, and I,
Speaker 1: you know, I I did an interview with them as
Speaker 1: part of our virtual celebration, and I even, it's funny
Speaker 1: you asked me that, because the first thing I said was,
Speaker 1: you know, Spellman actually became the most valuable for me
Speaker 1: once I left, because I had no you know, I
Speaker 1: had no idea that what I was embarking on was
Speaker 1: not only an amazing education, but it was a global,
Speaker 1: lifelong network. Um oh yeah, yeah. I mean I've been
Speaker 1: blessed to travel the world and I have been no
Speaker 1: place where there's not been somebody affiliated, an alumni, something
Speaker 1: wanting to go a future student with Spellman. And it's
Speaker 1: a built in sisterhood. It's a sorority on its own,
Speaker 1: so you know, and it's never it's never ending. You know,
Speaker 1: we've got all the alumni from from all those years ago,
Speaker 1: but then every year, we know, Spewman takes in at
Speaker 1: least another plast of five dynamic women. So the sisterhood
Speaker 1: continues to grow. And you know when you when you
Speaker 1: get to Spellman freshman year, literally freshman week, um in
Speaker 1: the freshman welcome, the the advisors and the staff say,
Speaker 1: you know, choosing Spellman is choosing to change the world.
Speaker 1: And so for me that has been a life mantra,
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of what can I do to
Speaker 1: make it different? And and and that's that's my whole passion.
Speaker 1: It's part of my self purpose and so that comes
Speaker 1: from Spellman. Now, unfortunately lost my mom my, my literally
Speaker 1: the first two months of my freshman year, and so
Speaker 1: Spellman also raised me. You know, I was there the
Speaker 1: early the early part of my adulthood. So the morals
Speaker 1: and values of Spellman again, the sisterhood, the appreciation and
Speaker 1: um and uh and value of education and what it
Speaker 1: can do for you in society, I mean, all of it.
Speaker 1: I can't speak enough. And that continues to go. It's
Speaker 1: not just like I went to Spellman and I'm I'm
Speaker 1: an alumni. I mean I talked about someone all the time.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I may be doing a motivational speech,
Speaker 1: or working for a corporation or on a movie set
Speaker 1: or in Ghana, Africa, or philanthromy You know, every walk,
Speaker 1: every lane of my life, I constantly speak about and
Speaker 1: have a conversation about the amazingness that spellment is well.
Speaker 1: I love that the tone. That's that's the key because
Speaker 1: whenever I go through our interview, I've been fortunate on
Speaker 1: this show, the interview over five hundred people since I
Speaker 1: launched the show, and I know, and I always go
Speaker 1: through the resumes of the bios and when I see
Speaker 1: the HPCU, I pull it out because that's a nugget.
Speaker 1: I gotta live and pull that nugget out. And so
Speaker 1: so because people write because a lot of schools take
Speaker 1: credit for your success because they're all Amgatan sing that
Speaker 1: you might have went to a white institution or a
Speaker 1: traditional institution that's non HPCU. Because Hollywood is dominant. I know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm based in Hollywood. I've been in Hollywood's namely two.
Speaker 1: I know the amount of executives, amount of writers, the
Speaker 1: amount of producers, the amount of actors and actresses that
Speaker 1: are really dominating the landscape, just like you and the
Speaker 1: entertainment arena. And that goes over into music or your
Speaker 1: rap or your music producer. It's really amazing what HBCUs
Speaker 1: are doing. And I always like to point that out
Speaker 1: and let people know that how inspired and how how
Speaker 1: just you just just you, I just like I just
Speaker 1: turned on the waterfalls and you started talking. Boom. I know,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you. I'm glad you mentioned all those different
Speaker 1: avenues because I think not just Spellman or more House
Speaker 1: or the a U Center, but any one of the HBCU.
Speaker 1: What I think happens is because all of them are
Speaker 1: such an intimate environment. Um, I think you get another
Speaker 1: level of attention and guidance then you would at any
Speaker 1: other institutional university or even an IVY league. You know,
Speaker 1: absolutely right, and got accepted to Princeton, Yale, Harvard. But
Speaker 1: I just you know, I was drawn to the intimacy
Speaker 1: and the level of special that someone was showing me
Speaker 1: they weren't and wanted to help me be. You can't
Speaker 1: beat that, you know, you can't beat that awesome. I'm
Speaker 1: talking to a J. Johnson TV producers, film Star Life coach,
Speaker 1: fitness guru. Uh, let's talk about that fitness guru because
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, you know, a couple of
Speaker 1: years I had Morris chest out on the show and yeah,
Speaker 1: the book of the show, and uh, and he had
Speaker 1: a fitness book out and weight lost book out, and
Speaker 1: I you know me, I try to invest into my
Speaker 1: guests if they give a book, I'm gonna read your book.
Speaker 1: Agent when if you ever have a book come out,
Speaker 1: he sent you Rushan McDonald. Rushan will read your book
Speaker 1: before he interviews you. None of that what is about?
Speaker 1: None of that vague question stuff. So nine pounds, he said,
Speaker 1: it was the ten pounds and ten days. I lost
Speaker 1: seven days, I lost nine pounds and in seven days
Speaker 1: and and so I, um, excuse me, ten days, excuse me,
Speaker 1: I apologize. Ten days I lost nine pounds and I
Speaker 1: have lost sixteen pounds total since then. And it has
Speaker 1: changed my life, and it's changed my clothes. You know,
Speaker 1: my waistline thirty three and a half. I can brag
Speaker 1: about that now, especially when I talk to my friends.
Speaker 1: I'm bragging. I'm bragg I'm not I'm not not a
Speaker 1: j I'm just I'm not you. Now, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: to you in these apps in a minute. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: not you. But your boy can say he's thirty three
Speaker 1: and a half waistline. So how important you know? Because
Speaker 1: we see you what the what the pandemic and how
Speaker 1: it's impacting you know, the African American community and I
Speaker 1: die it so you know I died comes up again.
Speaker 1: How we're impacted about when when crisis, especially a medical
Speaker 1: crisis come out. How what is your role as be
Speaker 1: of being a fitness gruel when it comes not only
Speaker 1: just to you, to everybody in general, but also for
Speaker 1: the African American community. I you know, I believe that
Speaker 1: the reason why I was given the business because I
Speaker 1: didn't pursue a business that I didn't pursue creating the
Speaker 1: aj Zone as a business entity. At first, I believe
Speaker 1: I was called to to share my knowledge. You know.
Speaker 1: When I first came into the game as an actress,
Speaker 1: um A a degree from an HBCU wasn't part of
Speaker 1: the qualification, but who I was as a result of
Speaker 1: my degrees and my science interest was a big part
Speaker 1: of me. And so when I spoke to going to
Speaker 1: sleep as I pursued acting, I said, you know, I've
Speaker 1: got to do something. There's no reason why I have
Speaker 1: all this knowledge. I'm now living what I've learned. It's
Speaker 1: caused a major difference in my life. My like you said,
Speaker 1: my appearance, my life, my energy, my attitude. I've got
Speaker 1: to you know, I've got to share what I know.
Speaker 1: And so, you know, again after losing parents to one
Speaker 1: of the big diseases, I feel like it's it's it's
Speaker 1: my purpose, passion and calling to share information to save
Speaker 1: other people. You know, my dad said, literally, my dad
Speaker 1: said before he passed, like you you've got to share
Speaker 1: what you know. He's like, you know, you may not
Speaker 1: be able to save me, but there's so many people
Speaker 1: who will benefit from what you know and who you are,
Speaker 1: and know that you're an example of living in it's
Speaker 1: not many we had. You have to continue to be
Speaker 1: an example. And unfortunately I lost him, but after I
Speaker 1: did Baby Boy in two thousand two, but his words
Speaker 1: stuck with me and so for me, you know, it
Speaker 1: needs everything and even now you know the fact that
Speaker 1: we are we are a quarantine because of this, the
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen and as an African American culture and African culture,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm very involved. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this whole
Speaker 1: high blood pressure, diabetes, um asthma, obesity. You know, it's
Speaker 1: it's not anything new. You know a lot of people
Speaker 1: are receiving the high numbers of African Americans suffering and
Speaker 1: dying because of our health risks. As this is some
Speaker 1: type of new thing. It's not. This was inevitable because
Speaker 1: we have not yet taken seriously our health prospective. And
Speaker 1: that's not a fingerpoint. That just means I have more
Speaker 1: work to do, you understand. Absolutely. That's why I actual
Speaker 1: when I hear those all those those news articles coming out,
Speaker 1: it's almost like false hype to me, because because the
Speaker 1: reality is, we have not changed our diet. We're not
Speaker 1: making an effort. We all over obeast. You know, cholestero.
Speaker 1: You could throw cholesterol in there too, along with the hyby,
Speaker 1: the diabetes, the poor eating fried foods, greasy foods, you know,
Speaker 1: just just just just so, when I see that pop
Speaker 1: on the screen, it's like, Okay, if you just took
Speaker 1: away this pandemic, we still will be dying on the
Speaker 1: great Oh my gosh, I'm so glad you said that,
Speaker 1: because I want to be able to say that, and
Speaker 1: I want to shout until every mountaintop I get take
Speaker 1: away the pandemic. The pandemic just got added on to
Speaker 1: letting us know and and re renewing our understanding of
Speaker 1: the position we're in. Because, like you said, take it away,
Speaker 1: we still are at a higher risk of illness and
Speaker 1: death because of all of those pre existing health conditions that,
Speaker 1: mind you, a lot of them can be reversed. Doctors
Speaker 1: have told many people I I consult um thirty minutes
Speaker 1: for thirty dollars available at the ajon dot com and
Speaker 1: our store. So I do consultations across the globe all day,
Speaker 1: every day, and all I'm hearing is, well, the doctor
Speaker 1: told me to walk a little bit more every day,
Speaker 1: and I may not need this half a pill I'm taking.
Speaker 1: Or the doctor told me to decrease my processed food,
Speaker 1: or the doctor told me to drink more water, and
Speaker 1: I probably don't even need medication. And I can't tell you, embarrassingly,
Speaker 1: how many people don't even listen to those little changes,
Speaker 1: you know. Scary. I did pastor John Gray on book
Speaker 1: of John Gray's show on own and he was in
Speaker 1: the hospital two weeks later. He didn't even need insulin
Speaker 1: for his diabetes. And all I did was changes food.
Speaker 1: All I did was pumped law suits and vegetables through
Speaker 1: protein shake smoothie. I've changed a lot of his nutritional
Speaker 1: lifestyle and in two weeks, not only was he out
Speaker 1: of the hospital, but he was also insiling. It's doable
Speaker 1: and people need to believe. People need to believe you
Speaker 1: can survive these diseases. You can put putt, get less
Speaker 1: medication for high blood pressure. You can lower your A
Speaker 1: one C if you're diabetic. It is possible. And if
Speaker 1: we're going to change our statistics across the world, we
Speaker 1: have to change how we live. Awesome. You are incredible.
Speaker 1: That is why I built the only show Good Morning.
Speaker 1: Like I tell you, you came with the energy a
Speaker 1: j zone dot com. She's preaching from a j zone
Speaker 1: dot Com. We'll be back to more. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about Ghana. I gotta talk about two V show on
Speaker 1: U mc more with incredibly fit, the incredibly passionate, the
Speaker 1: incredibly amazing A J. Johnson. Hi, Just Rashan McDonald and
Speaker 1: you're listening to money making conversations. My guest today is
Speaker 1: A J. Johnson. Um this talented, uh fair passion that
Speaker 1: she's a TV producer, she's a life coach. You go
Speaker 1: to a J zone dot com and you can get consultation,
Speaker 1: thirty mini consultations, fitness, Gurule, philanthropists and uh We talked
Speaker 1: very heavily about her HBCU background with Spellman College in Atlanta, Georgia,
Speaker 1: but she cannot get away from what she's been known
Speaker 1: and has brought us international and national and domestic recognition
Speaker 1: About your abilities acting A J. Johnson, How you know,
Speaker 1: how did you get into acting? You know, because your
Speaker 1: degree is psychology and chemistry. Well, I've always been whatever.
Speaker 1: First of all, there was a long part well because
Speaker 1: there's so many different directions that I was trying to
Speaker 1: figure out which what I was going to go in. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and we're all the time things. I mean
Speaker 1: we were in general. I would tell you the whole
Speaker 1: big but you know the quick, the quick version of it,
Speaker 1: if that. Um, I've always been passionate about performing in
Speaker 1: the arts. I mean, I grew up performing Arefa Franklin
Speaker 1: songs at our our Eastern dinners, you know, our Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: and so that led to my parents putting me in
Speaker 1: um performing classes, dancing, acting, modeling, and I loved it.
Speaker 1: And even though I grew up in an academic household,
Speaker 1: you know, my parents went to HBCUs. My dad was
Speaker 1: to Howard, my mom went to Chainey, my brothers went
Speaker 1: to went to higher education. Institutions. I knew that that
Speaker 1: was the first thing I knew I was never gonna
Speaker 1: be able to just go into a career of the arts.
Speaker 1: And I'm so glad my parents didn't allow it because
Speaker 1: again because of my experience of Spellman, the confidence it
Speaker 1: built in me. Um, you know, the the other dynamic
Speaker 1: of my life. I wouldn't have the level of a
Speaker 1: healthy living business like the AJ Zone had I not
Speaker 1: gone to school. Um just but not not because of passion,
Speaker 1: but just because it gives me the credibility that a
Speaker 1: lot of other people in healthy living and fitness do
Speaker 1: not have. And so I just believe that acting was
Speaker 1: something I thought I was going to try. Even my
Speaker 1: dad said, go to l A, get it out of
Speaker 1: your system, go dance in some music videos, go get shift,
Speaker 1: and get your butt back to med school. And literally
Speaker 1: in the first yeah, in the first thirty days of
Speaker 1: landing in Hollywood, I started working. I was doing bit roles,
Speaker 1: guest starring Jamie Fox um Fresh Prince. At the time
Speaker 1: I ran into Keena and I VWA and that run
Speaker 1: in landed me the choreography job for a Living Color
Speaker 1: as a fly girl, I mean, And then of course
Speaker 1: that landed me the role and even being considered for
Speaker 1: house party, So you know, it was something that I
Speaker 1: was exploring of. You know, don't be afraid check all
Speaker 1: your options, fuel your passions. As just something that happened
Speaker 1: to hit and I loved it. So it's really a story.
Speaker 1: I mean, the bottom line is for for anyone listening,
Speaker 1: I feel like the real true story is don't tuck
Speaker 1: yourself out of what you love, even if it's a
Speaker 1: completely different lane than what you feel like you've been
Speaker 1: prepared for. I was supposed to go to med school.
Speaker 1: I studied at an amazing four year institution to go
Speaker 1: to as premy but I had another passion, and here
Speaker 1: we are, Yes, you are what My degree is in mathematics.
Speaker 1: I work for IBM before I decided to pursue a
Speaker 1: career as a stand up comedian. And so I totally
Speaker 1: agree because sometimes you can always tell people you know,
Speaker 1: people will point you in the right direction, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you have to live that point, live that
Speaker 1: direction they're pointing. You have to wake up one day
Speaker 1: and say, what is it making me happy? What is
Speaker 1: motivating me to get out of bed? The reason you
Speaker 1: enthuseda this morning and talking so strong because you you
Speaker 1: like your life. You're doing what you want to do
Speaker 1: in your life, and a lot of people don't do that.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't do that. And let me
Speaker 1: just add this, if you think about it, you know,
Speaker 1: being an entertainment or even just loving that degree of entertainment,
Speaker 1: but also being armed with my degrees and my passion
Speaker 1: for science, it helps me create a whole different, perfect
Speaker 1: for me if I can say that, um perfect for
Speaker 1: me brand of healthy living. You know, I could be
Speaker 1: a typical doctor in a white lab coat or a researcher.
Speaker 1: But you know, I decide that that there was a
Speaker 1: way that I wanted to and possibly could do this
Speaker 1: this medicine thing. And so my lane is just different
Speaker 1: than the way somebody else does. But but interestingly enough,
Speaker 1: I still have friends that are at CDC. I have
Speaker 1: friends that are at the World Health Organization. You know,
Speaker 1: I still have friends in the scientists. So when something
Speaker 1: like this happens, like this pandemic, I have friends to
Speaker 1: go to get the real information. I'm not just sitting
Speaker 1: around watching TELEVI right right, like me, like me, let's
Speaker 1: get on and even sharing that information. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I've been put in position that I think is amazing, right, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and I respected and I appreciate the Irban Movie Channel
Speaker 1: the show Stuck with You, the relationship show. First of all,
Speaker 1: the title is stuck with You. I love you know
Speaker 1: because it has you know, you know it's because we've
Speaker 1: said that it can like lead you to believe that
Speaker 1: it's just the best I'm gonna do. Uh, do you
Speaker 1: have any other options? You're stuck. I'm stuck with you.
Speaker 1: So that title, first of all attracted me to it.
Speaker 1: What attracted you to the series and to get into
Speaker 1: the characters and have made it. But first of all,
Speaker 1: it's all about you A. J. Johnson. You know, nobody
Speaker 1: else stuff with you, chel, it's all about you MC channel.
Speaker 1: Well I was. I was attracted to the same thing, honestly,
Speaker 1: And you know, going a little bit deeper into what
Speaker 1: the story is, it's exactly that, like what happens behind
Speaker 1: the scene and these high profile celebrity relationships that may
Speaker 1: not be based in foundation and love, honor and cherished
Speaker 1: for death thy part. And so it may be a
Speaker 1: career move, it may be what's holding the bank account together?
Speaker 1: And if so, what are the choices that have to
Speaker 1: be made in living that lifestyle, and so Stuff with
Speaker 1: You kind of does a nice romantic comedy perspective and
Speaker 1: view intimately into a few relationships that are in that position.
Speaker 1: You know, does it work? How does it work? As
Speaker 1: you continue in a relationship that seems to be on
Speaker 1: the outside so avazing and hashtag relationship goals, as we
Speaker 1: say on social media, but when it's really not that
Speaker 1: on the inside. What is that about? So their character's
Speaker 1: name is Stephanie, right, Yes, I love Stephanie. I love
Speaker 1: and Stephanie Stefanie. Stephanie is the best friend of Candice,
Speaker 1: who was the lead actress who's in the relationships to
Speaker 1: best friends, as well as the publicist for UM and
Speaker 1: it's Tammy Townsend does an amazing job with Candice, and uh,
Speaker 1: all the actors are amazing, But Stephanie is the publicist
Speaker 1: and best friend of the lead couple. UM, so that
Speaker 1: that wasn't a stretch, you know, publicist, you know you
Speaker 1: wouldn't that that was a world you live in on
Speaker 1: a daily basis. Marketing and Brandon, so they really didn't
Speaker 1: have to think too much about being a publicist. Well
Speaker 1: that's true, but because I've never actually played one on FELM.
Speaker 1: I actually had a great time using my marketing center.
Speaker 1: The business savvy, yeah you know, and even just you know,
Speaker 1: I have a great publicist, you know, um sheth Armstrong
Speaker 1: of pr work and you know she amazing, And so
Speaker 1: I patterned Stephanie after a lot of Patrisa's no nonsense.
Speaker 1: She spells it out. Here's what we're gonna do. I mean,
Speaker 1: Katrinsas we're ever telling me what I don't want to
Speaker 1: do something, she's saying, no, let me tell you why
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. That from the employed, that kind
Speaker 1: of attitude and energy and expertise in the Stephanie and
Speaker 1: we had a blast which I which plays out in
Speaker 1: the in the show on the loan basis. Now, when
Speaker 1: you when you do a show like this, it's called
Speaker 1: I would tell I always talking about living a balanced
Speaker 1: life on this show because I feel that you can
Speaker 1: focus on your career. Because right now we're talking about
Speaker 1: we talked about the fitness, we talked about we're talking
Speaker 1: about the acting, but the philanthropy side of you, which
Speaker 1: is so strong, and it's called return to Ghana. Tell
Speaker 1: us about your involvement there, tell us about the importance
Speaker 1: of your participation and what is the purpose? You know.
Speaker 1: I've got to tell you that I'm really excited about
Speaker 1: adding philanthropists onto my resume. And it's coming pretty late
Speaker 1: in my life. But it's not that I've never done
Speaker 1: Sharon will work. I always have been involved and have
Speaker 1: been of service. Um Fellman preachers that I'm a member
Speaker 1: of dult statement data so already incorporated. Come on, just
Speaker 1: cute talking to you. Come on, Oh my goodness, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know the life of servants. He was sliding that
Speaker 1: information in a j UK slide. No information. I'm a
Speaker 1: member of Death the Statement, thetus. Yeah you know. I
Speaker 1: mean then you know more than anything, you know. That's
Speaker 1: so so when I went to Ghana. I went to
Speaker 1: Ghana just because at first I had never been to
Speaker 1: the continent. Um Full Circle Festival. A group of Hollywood
Speaker 1: personality that were Ghani and American were going, and so
Speaker 1: I said, listen, you know, the best way for me
Speaker 1: to expore Africa is with people I know, you know,
Speaker 1: on the level of travel that I love, and let
Speaker 1: me see what happens. I had no idea that Ghanna
Speaker 1: was going to embrace me and I would embrace Ghana
Speaker 1: like it like it happened in two thousand nineteen. It
Speaker 1: was the Year of Return. And when I realized that
Speaker 1: returning to Africa in the Year of Return had to
Speaker 1: mean something special, I started praying and asking God what
Speaker 1: was the job he would have me do? Because I
Speaker 1: already live on a on a space of nothing's random,
Speaker 1: nothing's coincident. And so I started working with the Bord
Speaker 1: of Tourism. I started connecting and doing projects with the
Speaker 1: President's office. And now excuse me, now I'm connected to
Speaker 1: and I'm doing projects with the U. S. Embassy and Ghana.
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, I was all my way to
Speaker 1: Ghana when this quarantine hit. I can't wait for my
Speaker 1: work to be to be rescheduled. I'm sitting here staring
Speaker 1: at my Ghana suitcases right now. I never oh Gaki,
Speaker 1: I got two big old suitcases staring at me right
Speaker 1: now in my living world, but I refused to unpack.
Speaker 1: I was literally days away from my trip, and I
Speaker 1: know that when this pandemic quarantine is over, I'm getting
Speaker 1: on a plane that I'm out of here. But you know,
Speaker 1: I also a shot off for Ghana because they're they're
Speaker 1: doing an amazing job with this whole pandemic. Um, but
Speaker 1: you know that there's still a third wall country and
Speaker 1: they need help from their brothers and sisters, you know,
Speaker 1: across the world. But I love you know, I've got
Speaker 1: a project that I created car I and my Sister's
Speaker 1: Keeper where I'm connecting successful women with some of the
Speaker 1: Astracan female teenagers just to be you know, um mentors
Speaker 1: Global mentors. Mentoring is very important, isn't that a lot
Speaker 1: of people are just understands that. But it's so important,
Speaker 1: and I hear it so strong because I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just stop you all this. You know, you said, Hey, Richard,
Speaker 1: I'm really I got into being a philanthropy late in life.
Speaker 1: But your voice and I know about your background, okay,
Speaker 1: you have in the mentoring to me is another form
Speaker 1: of being a philanthropist, you know, helping people, reaching back,
Speaker 1: you know, health wise. See it, don't let that title
Speaker 1: stop you from being the brand and the machine you've
Speaker 1: been all your life, a motivator and a life changer,
Speaker 1: giving people advice on how to live the right life,
Speaker 1: the best life, the better life. And so Ghana has
Speaker 1: just embraced you with a bigger country now. So but
Speaker 1: you've been you don't just walk into being doing what
Speaker 1: you're doing in Ghana. That has been inceded in you
Speaker 1: by your parents and then spell when nurtured it, and
Speaker 1: when you walked out into the real world, you didn't
Speaker 1: allow you didn't lose balance, and you maintain that balance.
Speaker 1: And so Ghana's kind of like a part of the
Speaker 1: legacy that you've always been building on. That's all I
Speaker 1: gotta say about that. I don't, I can't, I can't
Speaker 1: I bring you. One of the reasons I brought your
Speaker 1: own the show was because you do live a three
Speaker 1: sixty life, and because you live a three secrets and
Speaker 1: you've always lived a three sixty life. It's important people
Speaker 1: to understand how and how you've been impacting the them
Speaker 1: domestically and now the world well that you know, and I,
Speaker 1: like I said, I feel like it's all on purpose,
Speaker 1: you know, even so so so okay, So now we
Speaker 1: add Banna and a whole another continent and country. You know.
Speaker 1: Even this past holiday, I went to Ivy Coast. I
Speaker 1: planned to see Senegal before this year's over. So I'm
Speaker 1: expanding my existence on the continent and learning more and
Speaker 1: more what what help I can be. But I just
Speaker 1: think that it's also awesome speaking a three sixty now entrepreneurially,
Speaker 1: I'm acting again with you step be four. But but
Speaker 1: the way that I want to do it, you know,
Speaker 1: now it's no longer the thing. It's a thing in
Speaker 1: my life and that and that's what I wanted, not
Speaker 1: even knowing to call it that, I wanted it to
Speaker 1: be less stressful. I wanted it to be more fun. Um, Hollywood,
Speaker 1: it's filled with a lot of pressures. People don't People
Speaker 1: see the light camera action to finished products, products, and
Speaker 1: they don't realize that we go through to even land
Speaker 1: the job, do the job, you know, hopefully still you know,
Speaker 1: not get edited out of the job. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of stress and pressures. But now it's turned
Speaker 1: into fund for me as my travel world doing everything
Speaker 1: else I'm doing. So I like what you said. I've
Speaker 1: never said that way before. I like a three sixty
Speaker 1: life that I'm doing back from you and give you
Speaker 1: credit for j Please please leave this about what you're
Speaker 1: accomplishing in life, what you have accomplished in life. You know,
Speaker 1: I always tell people look back into your team, look
Speaker 1: back in your early twenties, that life that was being
Speaker 1: shaped for you. There is the life that you will
Speaker 1: live and make money with in your forties, fifties and sixties,
Speaker 1: and that's what you're doing. So we we get so
Speaker 1: focused on the immediacy that the president, the current what's
Speaker 1: happening was putting that check in your bank account. But life,
Speaker 1: it's about how you feel when you wake up. Your
Speaker 1: energy as a blessing for my show, it's a blessing
Speaker 1: for my listeners, you know. And I just wanted to
Speaker 1: share that information on the show. The aj AJ Zone
Speaker 1: dot com. Please go there, you know, on the UMC
Speaker 1: channels with just which she's starting and stuck with you
Speaker 1: as a J. Let me just let me just shape
Speaker 1: that out. You know. We have the a J Zone
Speaker 1: which is fitness, We got the acting which is just
Speaker 1: stuck with you on the UMC channel, and then we
Speaker 1: have the philanthropy side of returning to Ghana. That's what
Speaker 1: I call the three sixty. My friend, I love it
Speaker 1: and everybody can follow at the azhone on Twitter and Instagram.
Speaker 1: I'm also starting one of one of my poyeffs with
Speaker 1: the efforts that's called the Bridge to Better If you're
Speaker 1: interested in going to Ghana and working with me in
Speaker 1: some of these projects, let's go. I plan to take
Speaker 1: you know, I was. I was actually gonna do that
Speaker 1: in March, but now that God is kind of delayed us,
Speaker 1: We're still going to take a trip this year, so
Speaker 1: follow along. Oh, my friend, thank you for taking the
Speaker 1: time to come on Money Making Conversation. No, you are
Speaker 1: a friend and you can always have fine strong support
Speaker 1: in the platform and Money Making Conversation and of course
Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald, thank you for coming on the show. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Let's continue to change the world, brother, we will. If
Speaker 1: you want to hear more money Making Conversation interviews, go
Speaker 1: to money Making Conversation dot com. I'm Rashan McDonald. In
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