Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she
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Speaker 1: interview him. He is an NBA All Star tech investor
Speaker 1: and New York Times bestselling Arthur of the sixth Man.
Speaker 1: The swing Man was an All Star NBA All Star
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve and it's been named to the NBA
Speaker 1: All Defensive Team twice. He was the NBING Founders m
Speaker 1: v P. I remember that year Tara tarab And was
Speaker 1: a key component to the basketball basketball success then the
Speaker 1: world championship run of the Golden State Wars. Please welcome
Speaker 1: to money making conversation, Andre igu Dollar. How you doing, sir?
Speaker 1: I'm doing good? My friends? Are you you sound alert here? Andre?
Speaker 1: You know what what city? Or yeah? My friend? I
Speaker 1: mean Eli at the moment, getting a little UM work
Speaker 1: done on the body, listening a little bit and uh
Speaker 1: getting some PRP plasma replacement UH treatment for the body
Speaker 1: the uh you know, for the upcoming season, trying to
Speaker 1: get ready um and have another successful run of it. Well,
Speaker 1: you know the interesting thing about in part of your
Speaker 1: book you talk about, you know that the training, a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, the high tech ain'ting that you
Speaker 1: you really have to look at your body. You know,
Speaker 1: I've heard when I was reading about uh Lebron James,
Speaker 1: he spends over a million dollars here when he flies,
Speaker 1: his trainers fly with him. What exactly do do you?
Speaker 1: What exactly do? When? When did the mindset that you
Speaker 1: have to take care of your body start? Because I
Speaker 1: read your book which is called the Six Mans six
Speaker 1: the Sixth Man, and it started your journey, you know,
Speaker 1: in Springfield, Illinois, and then you go through high school.
Speaker 1: You know, we're really started elementary middle school. You're talking
Speaker 1: about your brother Frank, and then you get to College
Speaker 1: of Arizona. You almost went to Arkansas and then uh
Speaker 1: Nola Richards he resigned and so you changed your mind
Speaker 1: with Arizona. So when did you start taking care of
Speaker 1: your body? Uh? I say, you know, you start having
Speaker 1: those conversations early in the league. I mean the league
Speaker 1: tries to uh pact as much information into UM a
Speaker 1: week as they can, you know, because that's all the
Speaker 1: time they have. It's called the Rickie Transition program. And
Speaker 1: you hear that monor here. You know if you if
Speaker 1: you brought a ferrari would you put cheap gas in it?
Speaker 1: You start you start hearing out a lot. You can
Speaker 1: apply that to pretty much anything that you're doing, and say,
Speaker 1: you know, if you had a Ferrarie, how would you
Speaker 1: treat it. You know, how many times would you wash it?
Speaker 1: You handwash it, you would handwah it, or you know,
Speaker 1: you would make sure you didn't get a scratch, or
Speaker 1: you will put the right fluids into it. Um, you
Speaker 1: will put the right things in any part of the engine,
Speaker 1: and you will put top of the line products with it.
Speaker 1: You know, Uh, cleaning the tires, you're trying to use
Speaker 1: the best tire cleaner. So and in terms of just
Speaker 1: my body, UM, I start to watch other guys and
Speaker 1: see what they were doing. And it took me, uh
Speaker 1: some years to find kind of like my niche and
Speaker 1: kind of find what was optimal for me. And the
Speaker 1: big thing was just doing a lot of homework, doing
Speaker 1: my own study, and um, surrounding myself with people who
Speaker 1: we're sharing that knowledge. And it was about it was
Speaker 1: really when I started fixing my sleep and taking my
Speaker 1: behind the bed is when a lot of things change.
Speaker 1: And I said, okay, I'm not getting enough sleep. And
Speaker 1: I started studying sleep and saying, okay, you gotta get
Speaker 1: the eight hours a night and these are the things
Speaker 1: that are keeping you up, and these are the things
Speaker 1: that will help you go to sleep. Once you start
Speaker 1: with that layer, you get really in depth with one
Speaker 1: thing and it flows into a lot of other lifestyle
Speaker 1: things in terms of health, and from there, the the
Speaker 1: what I would started eating float into it. You know. UM,
Speaker 1: let's meet a lot like like you know, almost cut
Speaker 1: out meat, UH, dairy, UM, sugar. Trying to working on that,
Speaker 1: which is hard, really hard to do because it's just
Speaker 1: so accustomed to having those things in the American diet
Speaker 1: and really a lot of us going back to tracing
Speaker 1: my roots and seeing you know, what was beneficial to
Speaker 1: uh um, you know, generations and generations before me, and
Speaker 1: what their diets are like and how that affected their body.
Speaker 1: Read a book right now called The Sports Gene and
Speaker 1: talks in terms of you know what genus different cultures
Speaker 1: have and how that effects are performances in different sports.
Speaker 1: And you know why ep Opians and Kings are great
Speaker 1: at uh long distance, and how Jamaicans are great at sprinting,
Speaker 1: and you know how diets can help and hand you
Speaker 1: or how a diet can help you compete with the
Speaker 1: likes of those cultures. So um just really started to
Speaker 1: do my homework or anything UM involving you know, whether
Speaker 1: it be basketball, whether it be business and how I
Speaker 1: can be my optimal self. Now I ask you this, Um,
Speaker 1: we we're talking about your book The Sixth Man, But you,
Speaker 1: as a person, what what view or what perspective of
Speaker 1: person would you would want a person to have about
Speaker 1: you as a as a man, as a as a husband,
Speaker 1: as a father, as a as a business person? What what? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: What image do you want to project when people say
Speaker 1: your name or you walk into a room. I think
Speaker 1: I just want people to realize that, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: do my homework. You know, I'm very focused on process.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not necessarily about the end results or
Speaker 1: you know, the money or the fame. For me, it's
Speaker 1: about seeing a journey or seeing and go. And I
Speaker 1: really enjoy putting all the pieces together to build that
Speaker 1: ultimate puzzle, you know, whether that be on the championship
Speaker 1: team or helping the team be the best team that
Speaker 1: that they can be. You know, it may only be
Speaker 1: the team first round exited, but that we played our
Speaker 1: best basketball, We got the most out of every single
Speaker 1: person on the team. You know, that was a successful
Speaker 1: year for that particular team. You know, I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm trying to enhance anyone that I'm around. You know,
Speaker 1: to for friends that or to business people that that
Speaker 1: I get close to, or invest in companies. You know,
Speaker 1: when I invest in the company and they say, well, us,
Speaker 1: do you bring the table to the table besides you
Speaker 1: know the financial side or did the equity? And I say, however,
Speaker 1: I can help the company, and that may be putting
Speaker 1: you in touch with other companies that I invested in,
Speaker 1: or putting you in touch with UM power movers who
Speaker 1: can help you find a CFO or help you find
Speaker 1: the CMO. You know, I've tried to find a good
Speaker 1: network of people across the globe and UM just connecting
Speaker 1: people and UM building great products, building great companies, and
Speaker 1: it's been a great journey. It's sort of like being
Speaker 1: a GM on a basketball team. You know, you got
Speaker 1: to find the right coach right UM basketball development system
Speaker 1: to enhance the players, just bringing the best out of everybody.
Speaker 1: We know. The thing about when I was reading your book,
Speaker 1: the book is called the Sixth Band, I'm talking. I'm
Speaker 1: interviewing andre Iguadolla in the book and this New York
Speaker 1: Times best selling book. The thing that came across when
Speaker 1: you talk about your brother, who was an amazing athlete,
Speaker 1: you talked about Jeff Walker, You talked about different athletes
Speaker 1: who who came along your life. You took what they
Speaker 1: what you felt they never took to the next level
Speaker 1: like finishes you talk about. You know, you read newspapers.
Speaker 1: You know, people walking a room and go, why why
Speaker 1: are this young kid reading newspaper because they thought that
Speaker 1: was add but your but that was part of the house.
Speaker 1: You could read the newspapers your parents, your mom excuse me,
Speaker 1: your mom felt that was part of the growth process
Speaker 1: to know the world for real. I do that with
Speaker 1: my daughter. Always tell my daughter all my life, I said,
Speaker 1: sit down and look at the six o'clock news, so
Speaker 1: you won't to know what life. Look at the news.
Speaker 1: Don't look at those to that other stuff. But you
Speaker 1: gotta look at the news. And that was your mom's
Speaker 1: approach was the newspaper. My approach was the six o'clock news.
Speaker 1: And so when you look at the things that did
Speaker 1: you value and did you're growing? And we got like
Speaker 1: fifty seconds left in this, can you say real quick
Speaker 1: about what bothered you when you didn't see people with
Speaker 1: talent take advantage of it. Yeah, so I really we'll
Speaker 1: try to process that, especially at young age, and you've
Speaker 1: got people older than you, um, who you looked up to.
Speaker 1: And what I found was, you know, you can become
Speaker 1: a product in your environment where you know, folks didn't
Speaker 1: expect you, you know, they generalized you. They didn't expect
Speaker 1: you to have success in the classroom. They didn't expect
Speaker 1: you to you know, have a mind and be able
Speaker 1: to speak it and be able to articulate it. Um.
Speaker 1: So for me, it was that it was a challenge.
Speaker 1: You know, I made that a challenge. You know, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you that it's more than dribbling the ball.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna be able to have success in
Speaker 1: the classroom. I'm gonna be able to uh spark a
Speaker 1: debate and be able to articulate you know why I
Speaker 1: feel the way that I feel, And I'm gonna learn
Speaker 1: as much as I can to be able to have
Speaker 1: success in those conversations. So it was just it was
Speaker 1: a challenge that I tried to put on my self
Speaker 1: and you completed. Man, you know, just here and you talk,
Speaker 1: you know, just here, the strength in your tone, the
Speaker 1: knowledge um, your mom. You know, I'll be remissed if
Speaker 1: I don't bring her name up. Doing this conversation, just
Speaker 1: tell us the impact that she had in your life
Speaker 1: and and how are you caring that impact to affect
Speaker 1: other people positively. Yeah, my mom was very instrumental and
Speaker 1: you know everything that I did, you know, even in
Speaker 1: playing sports. Uh, she played a little bit of ball,
Speaker 1: but she understood the game. She watched the game, and
Speaker 1: she was very specific in terms of where her goals
Speaker 1: were and where she wanted us to be. Uh. We
Speaker 1: didn't have to be rich or or you know, we
Speaker 1: had She had her own definition of success, which was
Speaker 1: you know, experience in the world, you know, not being
Speaker 1: having a small town mindset, which a lot of the
Speaker 1: athletes where I come from, half they're always afraid to
Speaker 1: experience different. That's why they end up right back at
Speaker 1: home when they you know, after after a couple of
Speaker 1: months of college. You know, that was like the norm,
Speaker 1: you know, go to college for a couple of months
Speaker 1: and to end up right back home. I couldn't handle
Speaker 1: the pressures or you know, the you know, weren't astra
Speaker 1: mayor with that environment and couldn't handle it. So that
Speaker 1: was stuck in up my mind at a young age.
Speaker 1: You know, you're getting out, he's going forward and home
Speaker 1: as possible, and you're gonna see the world and you're
Speaker 1: gonna maximize your potentials. And she was very tough at times,
Speaker 1: but she was loving at the same time. You know,
Speaker 1: I was a mama's boy, so I was very attached
Speaker 1: to her um. So you know, it's just having somebody
Speaker 1: that had confidence in you were having somebody that held
Speaker 1: your accountable. And when you got the line out of line,
Speaker 1: she put you right back And how you going really sad? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't play no games, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: you knew somebody that had your back. You knew it
Speaker 1: came from a loving place, so you know, it actually
Speaker 1: made it easy. We know, when I got trouble by
Speaker 1: my mother, you know I would sit back and reflecting
Speaker 1: me like I was in the room. You know, most
Speaker 1: of us should be like on my mom did me wrong,
Speaker 1: my dad did me wrong, and I don't understand why
Speaker 1: they're doing this to me. But for me, it was
Speaker 1: like I don't know what it was. She this was
Speaker 1: such a great parent that I understood everything she was
Speaker 1: trying to love it to do or get across, and
Speaker 1: she just wanted me to be successful. My man NBA
Speaker 1: all start in twenty twelve, NBA All Start, All Defensive
Speaker 1: Team twice, NBA World Champion, Olympic Champion also should have
Speaker 1: been slam Junk Slam Dunk Champion, but that didn't happen
Speaker 1: because guess what, there's a bad job just sitting at
Speaker 1: the table. Y'all go out and buy his book. He's
Speaker 1: my man, Andre Equa Dollar, the sixth Man, getting excited
Speaker 1: to talk about that slam dunk. They should have gave you,
Speaker 1: my man. I appreciate you coming on the show, and
Speaker 1: if you ever need me, tell you PR people to
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Speaker 1: my social media so I can extend the opportunities to
Speaker 1: promoe out there. Man, you're great, dude. Do not change
Speaker 1: anything that you do about yourself. Okay, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We'll be right back from March McDonald.
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Speaker 1: the balance life. And the part of the balance life
Speaker 1: is giving back. It's something I've been doing all my life.
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Speaker 1: return into call of making sci fire and allowed me
Speaker 1: to give back to my community. That way gave me structure,
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Speaker 1: had out. My next guest is a philanthropist and co
Speaker 1: founder of Kershaw's Challenge. It is co founded in twenty
Speaker 1: It was co founded in Ellen and her husband, the
Speaker 1: eight time Major League Baseball All Star Clayton Kershaw. Today,
Speaker 1: the Kershaw's Challenge seeks to serve vulnerable and at ricks
Speaker 1: at risk children living in Los Angeles, Dallas, Zambia, and
Speaker 1: the Dominican Republic. The goal is to partner with organizations
Speaker 1: that are committed to this as well as and work
Speaker 1: alongside them on Pacific projects to make life better for children.
Speaker 1: One of their signature events is the upcoming seventh annual
Speaker 1: Ping Pong for Purpose, the Number four Purpose, being held
Speaker 1: at Dodger Stabnum on August eight. Please welcome to Money
Speaker 1: Making Conversations the very first time, and I'm proud to
Speaker 1: have them. Ellen Kershaw, Hi, thanks for having me. Excited
Speaker 1: to be here today to talk about Kershaw's challenge and
Speaker 1: our events are benefit saries and everything in between. Well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. Let's talk about the date says
Speaker 1: twenty level it was founded. Yeah, okay, obviously something was
Speaker 1: bothering you two in life. You're just seeing things and
Speaker 1: you're going because a lot of times you get frustrated.
Speaker 1: And I know that I participated in stuff because people
Speaker 1: have asked me to participate in it. I've lended, I've
Speaker 1: lent my name and my my dollars as well. So
Speaker 1: this is a program that you two decided to uh
Speaker 1: to engage as part of your brain. What drove that commitment?
Speaker 1: In You know, that's a great question. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know that we ever expected Kirkshaw's Challenge to be
Speaker 1: where it is today. We didn't. We didn't begin it
Speaker 1: hoping that it would flourish into what it is become.
Speaker 1: It honestly started with just this finding, this need that
Speaker 1: needed to be met right away. And I've been going
Speaker 1: to Zambia, Africa, my entire college um time, and and
Speaker 1: it was really important to me that Clayton would go
Speaker 1: with me right after we got married. That three weeks
Speaker 1: after we got married, we went to Africa and he
Speaker 1: got to meet this little orphan, the same hope who
Speaker 1: I had fallen in love with, and to be honest,
Speaker 1: the most critical nequish. She just needed a home. She
Speaker 1: needs a safe place to call home, a stable environment,
Speaker 1: and a family. And and that's where it began. We
Speaker 1: realized that Clayton's platform, the talent of baseball, gives us
Speaker 1: an incredible voice, an opportunity to raise money and awareness
Speaker 1: for this. And so it was on our plane flight
Speaker 1: back from that first trip to Zambia that we just
Speaker 1: decided we were gonna um start this mission and Clayton
Speaker 1: would donate money for every strikeout he made and and
Speaker 1: really start to use his platform to give back. So
Speaker 1: in essence, we didn't expect it to grow to where
Speaker 1: it is today. We honestly just went in thinking we've
Speaker 1: got to build this girl at home. We wanted to
Speaker 1: start with this children's home where orphans just like Hope
Speaker 1: would have a place to grow up in a family environment.
Speaker 1: So that's where it began, with just a singular focus,
Speaker 1: meat and passion, and gosh, it is snowballed and escalated
Speaker 1: and grown into something beyond. Our wildest dreams were dreams
Speaker 1: of what made this happen. It was an emotionally what
Speaker 1: made this happen. I'm speaking to Ellen Kershaw Um. We're
Speaker 1: discussing the foundation that she started with her husband, Clade Crowshaw.
Speaker 1: And there's some other cities. We started with Zambia and
Speaker 1: then but you have Los Angeles, you have Dallas, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the Dominican Republic. Los Angeles were
Speaker 1: your base. So I think that's a natural relationship that
Speaker 1: you walk out your front door, you see trouble, you
Speaker 1: want to fix it close to home. But Dallas, so
Speaker 1: Dallas is where Clayton and I are goes from We
Speaker 1: actually spend our off season there. We still very much
Speaker 1: consider that our home base. So um, even though we're
Speaker 1: in l A during the season, and that absolutely become
Speaker 1: a second home to us. We also spend a good
Speaker 1: amount of time in Dallas, and for a while we
Speaker 1: were only getting to go to Africa once a year
Speaker 1: during the off season, and UM, Clayton and I heart
Speaker 1: just continued to crave service and finding those kids who
Speaker 1: are vulnerable and in need, and um that we could
Speaker 1: be touching throughout the baseball season and during the off season.
Speaker 1: So that's how we began to include Los Angeles and Dallas.
Speaker 1: Are are two home bases to Curtius challenge. You have
Speaker 1: Arma Texas bar from Houston, Texas. So I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't know y'all with Texas. So this is kind
Speaker 1: says you got in most spec Now, now mean did
Speaker 1: your Dallas you know, you know you up in Dallas,
Speaker 1: you know you're used to really where it's happening. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just let you know that, Ellen, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: let you know. There's my show. I could say that,
Speaker 1: but you do some great cause. Now not a Dominican Republic,
Speaker 1: How did we get over there to the Dominican Republic.
Speaker 1: So that was really important to Clayton. That actually is
Speaker 1: where his passion really stemmed from. He has had so
Speaker 1: many teammates that have come from the d R, and
Speaker 1: you know, over there, baseball is value that kind of
Speaker 1: the most important. That for a lot of kids, the
Speaker 1: ticket off the island and they just kind of hold
Speaker 1: it with such reverence that sport. That Clayton really knew
Speaker 1: how powerful his voice and his platform would be over there.
Speaker 1: And and he's met so many baseball players that were
Speaker 1: once those honorable kids that really needed an extra boost
Speaker 1: and a helping hand to get them to where they
Speaker 1: are today. So that's where that's where we added on
Speaker 1: the Dominican Republic. Okay, cool. So you have like four locations.
Speaker 1: You have Dallas, Zambi Up, and Dominical Republic in each location.
Speaker 1: Is the responsibility of the purpose the same in each
Speaker 1: location or do they shift based on needs? You know,
Speaker 1: it does shift based on needs. But the essence of
Speaker 1: Kershaw's challenge is vulnerable and at rich children. Especially when
Speaker 1: Clayton and I became parents ourselves, it is unimaginable for
Speaker 1: us to think about kids out there who don't have
Speaker 1: a stable environment, a safe place to call home, as
Speaker 1: our kids do, and so really our heart reaches in
Speaker 1: a whole new capacity once he's become parents. I know
Speaker 1: that you know I'm a parent. I know exactly what
Speaker 1: I see um kids who are being abused, the kids
Speaker 1: that don't have what I think it's should be normal,
Speaker 1: it really is. It's really uh, it's unexplainable. So I
Speaker 1: find what you're saying very relatable. From an emotional standpoint,
Speaker 1: I find it amendable that you took your emotion and
Speaker 1: turned it into a passion. That passion became an idea
Speaker 1: and using Now now you know you say your husband
Speaker 1: Clayton Clayton and then you say, hey, Rashan, let me
Speaker 1: just get your straights. Zambia was was something I was
Speaker 1: involved in when I was in college. Now, how did
Speaker 1: y'all Brunette scope together and they formed this? This is
Speaker 1: now we're twenty eleven. Now you know you you got
Speaker 1: this passion. You know you you're making decisions that you
Speaker 1: have four four cities already in place, or did you
Speaker 1: start with one city and just started expanding. That's a
Speaker 1: great question. M Clayton and I actually started dating when
Speaker 1: we were in high school. We were just fourteen years
Speaker 1: old and best friends. And and then I actually went
Speaker 1: off to college at Texane m and I'm a university
Speaker 1: used in Cougar. Now you need to stop talking. Now
Speaker 1: you need to stop talking. Thanks gim. We have these
Speaker 1: four years where both of us really got to flourish
Speaker 1: on our own and we were still dating, but he
Speaker 1: was pursuing his dream of baseball, and meanwhile I was
Speaker 1: going to spending my college summers going to Africa, and
Speaker 1: so we almost were going down the two completely opposite past,
Speaker 1: both both pursuing our passions and dreams, and and part
Speaker 1: of us were a little it worried about like how
Speaker 1: can these actually ever intersect? How are we going to
Speaker 1: figure out how we suppose get to do what we
Speaker 1: are passionate about, and how there be any overlap. And
Speaker 1: that's kind of the beauty of Kershaw's challenge. It it it
Speaker 1: is the perfect culmination of my passion for Zambia and
Speaker 1: the orphans there, and Clayton getting to use his platform
Speaker 1: to rescue him to bring awareness to them, to raise
Speaker 1: a lot of money for them. And even though it
Speaker 1: began as my passion and my calling, I mean once
Speaker 1: Clayton went over there and thought from himself, you you
Speaker 1: can't help, but it becomes your passion and your calling
Speaker 1: to it. Just it changes who you are, and um,
Speaker 1: you leave a part of your heart over there that
Speaker 1: you never get back. Um, it's very much become a
Speaker 1: part of who he is as well. Never let's talk
Speaker 1: about this because I know when you do locations like this,
Speaker 1: you have to pardon with organizations that are already committed
Speaker 1: in this direction. How do you select it? Because that's
Speaker 1: a trust factor, because now you're putting your brand and
Speaker 1: your association and you know sometimes when you do good,
Speaker 1: if you do good with the wrong people, they can't
Speaker 1: come back with a negative back back lash. How do
Speaker 1: you selectly? You know, how do you how do you
Speaker 1: partner up with? How do you vent the organization that
Speaker 1: you're partnering up with? You know, we have a really
Speaker 1: extensive application and interview process and um, we ask for references,
Speaker 1: we do site visit, um arise Africa with who we
Speaker 1: partner with an Africa and we've actually Clinton and I
Speaker 1: got to be with them from the very beginning and
Speaker 1: so in essence we've a little bit gotten to help
Speaker 1: them grow and grows from the very beginning, and that's
Speaker 1: made a huge different set. What are some of the
Speaker 1: other upcoming projects that the Kershaw's Challenges doing this year
Speaker 1: and in the future. So locally in l A. Actually
Speaker 1: next week, we have this event. It's really special. It's
Speaker 1: called the Back to School Bash, and we partner with
Speaker 1: the Dream Center here in Los Angeles. We get to
Speaker 1: pack up pass out thousands and thousands of backpacks two
Speaker 1: kids who are about to start school and maybe you're
Speaker 1: going into the school, you're feeling very unprepared. Um. And
Speaker 1: so these families thing line up around the block starting
Speaker 1: at c a m. In the morning, just to make
Speaker 1: sure that their kid get a backpack filled with all
Speaker 1: of the school spots they'll needs that these parents can't
Speaker 1: provide themselves. And so once um, once the kids and
Speaker 1: the families enter the line starting at ten am, I
Speaker 1: mean they've now waited out there for seven hours hoping
Speaker 1: to be one of the first two lines. And Clayton
Speaker 1: and I get to stand at the front of the
Speaker 1: lines and and see the smiles on these kids faces,
Speaker 1: just feeling like they are now fully prepared and equipped
Speaker 1: to start school. But once they enter the Back to
Speaker 1: School Bash, it's pretty magical. Um. We get to do
Speaker 1: I exam physicals, UM, back to school shopping, we have
Speaker 1: racks of clothes, we do bike giveaways, haircut to start
Speaker 1: school off. Really just all the things that I grew
Speaker 1: up very much taking for granted. And these kids don't
Speaker 1: they realize what an opportunity this is. And um, they're
Speaker 1: just very thankful and it's incredible to get to witness
Speaker 1: first hand passing a backpack out to a kid that
Speaker 1: otherwise would not get that before school started. Awesome, before
Speaker 1: I go, uh, we've got a one mint enough. In
Speaker 1: this interview, I want to talk about how people can
Speaker 1: give back and find out more about challenge. So you
Speaker 1: can go to Kershaw's Challenge dot com that has all
Speaker 1: of the information that anybody would need. Ways to get involved.
Speaker 1: We have UM sometimes throughout the year we'll be selling
Speaker 1: T shirts. You can represent here different stories of people
Speaker 1: that are also giving back in their own unique ways.
Speaker 1: Here about all the beneficiaries that we're getting to raise
Speaker 1: money for this year. UM. That's where you can find
Speaker 1: all of the information, but also follow us on social media.
Speaker 1: We've got an Instagram account, of Facebook page, Twitter accounts,
Speaker 1: and daily we are posting updates on those so um
Speaker 1: we love our followers to follow along here the daily
Speaker 1: changes and impact. Well, I would tell you something not
Speaker 1: on the before a route on the back of school
Speaker 1: batches that open to everybody, or these family screened or
Speaker 1: can I post it on social media? It is open
Speaker 1: to It is open to everybody. They just need to
Speaker 1: look up the Dream Center in Los Angeles meet us there. Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on my show. You're amazing. Uh,
Speaker 1: what's continued success? I'm an Astro fan, but I wish
Speaker 1: continue says with the Dodges. Do they meet the astrod
Speaker 1: serial keep I'm a post as much as I can
Speaker 1: to promote everything that you do in the future. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you for calling. We'll be right back with more
Speaker 1: from McDonald of money making conversations. That we were having
Speaker 1: coffee and I asked Jen where we should go on vacation,
Speaker 1: and I said, with our bills, I don't see a
Speaker 1: vacation happening. Yeah, between our credit cards, a washer and
Speaker 1: stove we bought on credit, and that unexpected car repair, yeah,
Speaker 1: that wasn't in the budget anyway, we agreed to take
Speaker 1: the week to research choices for a fixed rate personal
Speaker 1: loan that would let us consolidate all our bills into
Speaker 1: one low monthly payment and maybe have some leftover for vacation.
Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is we both chose best egg
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Speaker 1: Affairs for their easy online loan app that takes about
Speaker 1: a minute and doesn't impact your credit score. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: we got approved in one business day for an amazing
Speaker 1: personal loan. We paid off all our cards and bills
Speaker 1: and still lowered our monthly payment. Yeah, and now we
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Speaker 1: best egg dot com slash Life. Best egg dot com
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Speaker 1: of money Making Conversations, Rashaan McDonald. He's a social media influencer.
Speaker 1: Of his seven hundred thousand plus social media followers are female.
Speaker 1: He's a two time Emmy Award winner, three time n
Speaker 1: double A CP Image Award winner, sitcom writer, stand up comic,
Speaker 1: former IBM executive, and has a degree in mathematics. More importantly,
Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald will use his business and celebrity relationships to
Speaker 1: empower small businesses with information to succeed. My next guest
Speaker 1: is one of those people and the entrepreneurship lane, but
Speaker 1: she's tied to education. So you're getting two things out
Speaker 1: of you. Get your life right from a from a
Speaker 1: business standpoint, and get your life right from an educational standpoint,
Speaker 1: because she's trying to make your life right after you
Speaker 1: got your degree, because a lot of times if you
Speaker 1: go to school, you can walk away. Was it dead?
Speaker 1: My next guest is the CEO of an award winning
Speaker 1: business called the Student Loan Doctor. The Student Loan Doctor
Speaker 1: is a student debt repayment company. She's considered the people's
Speaker 1: expert for all matters related to student loan debt repayment.
Speaker 1: She has over seven years of practical, higher education and
Speaker 1: financial aid experience. Please welcome to money making conversation. Son,
Speaker 1: your Lewis. Thank you so much for having me. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what that was. A that was an applause
Speaker 1: driven up. You gotta get some applause, Sam, you know,
Speaker 1: because I'm doing these applause Nowaday. You know, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm a I'm a performer. So usually
Speaker 1: when people introduced me on the stage, it's applause that
Speaker 1: carries me on the stage. So now I'm setting up
Speaker 1: to all these great introduces, introductions and individuals. I need
Speaker 1: a little paul. I'm not you know, it's something that
Speaker 1: I don't have to pay for. Mixture is a copy free, okay,
Speaker 1: trademark free. You know how you doing? Ms Lewis, I'm
Speaker 1: how are you today? I'm doing fine? And where are
Speaker 1: you based that right now? Calling from? Yeah? Okay, I've
Speaker 1: just talked to another good friend up there in the
Speaker 1: Philadelphy A area. I've been spent a lot of time
Speaker 1: up there in New York. I take to exhale the
Speaker 1: sale down from New York to d C. That's my
Speaker 1: favorite way. I don't jump on the plane. I just
Speaker 1: hop on that amtract train come on down. So I'm
Speaker 1: always passing through Philly and it's a great opportunity to
Speaker 1: get some good food. I just hang out and fairly
Speaker 1: a lot. When I was imagining, Steve Harvey was there
Speaker 1: at the Rich call to right downtown, that little area
Speaker 1: down there, right across from that bookstore down there, That's
Speaker 1: where I would hang out. So Philly area is good
Speaker 1: to me. Now you my friend started the student long doctor. Yes,
Speaker 1: because I was going through my own trials. In general,
Speaker 1: that usual gives your inspiration. That gives you inspiration when
Speaker 1: you're going through the problem. How do I fix this problem?
Speaker 1: Then you're fixing? You go you don't Maybe I can
Speaker 1: fix this for other people. So what was your problem?
Speaker 1: Give us your story about your dad that really traumatized
Speaker 1: you to the point that you you're inspired to fix
Speaker 1: other people's problems. Yeah. So I started getting help with
Speaker 1: my death because I really realized that I wasn't living
Speaker 1: the life that God had told me to live. So
Speaker 1: you can't be a good giver broke, and you can't
Speaker 1: motivate or be encouraging to anyone if you are down
Speaker 1: and dump yourself. And a lot of times I felt
Speaker 1: like our problems fell from finances, right, So I had
Speaker 1: to get me together. But if you're a good friend
Speaker 1: and you care about the people around you, you want
Speaker 1: to help them themselves together too. So I started to
Speaker 1: help my friends and family because I'm like, they don't
Speaker 1: know this information. I know they would have told me, right,
Speaker 1: So I started helping people, and then people at the
Speaker 1: church started to tell other people about the work we
Speaker 1: were doing on Sundays after church. And you know I've
Speaker 1: said Jesus saidn't say everybody had to be free. Now
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't hear that. I didn't see that
Speaker 1: in the scripture. So I started consulte when people want
Speaker 1: about their stead the loans, because it was this thing
Speaker 1: that everybody was coming to me for. Now. This is
Speaker 1: my professional background. UM. For over nine years, I've been
Speaker 1: doing this work UM for other colleges and universities. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, what would it look like to do
Speaker 1: it for yourself. So for the last three years, I've
Speaker 1: been in business, initially myself for a year, and then
Speaker 1: the last two I've hired a wonderful team to help
Speaker 1: me take on uh this one point five trillion dollars
Speaker 1: dead Now. I'm just gonna let you know. I was
Speaker 1: talking to my staff a stay off the camera afradio,
Speaker 1: excuse me, and we was talking about I was watching
Speaker 1: this special NBC and it was these students, a group
Speaker 1: of students out there who are in debt, and they're
Speaker 1: just saying, we're not paying it back, We're just refusing
Speaker 1: to pay. We're just gonna be it's comes out if
Speaker 1: they ain'tven got a hashtag we won't pay, And I'm
Speaker 1: going like, okay, how you how can you how? First
Speaker 1: of all, I was mad at him because you know,
Speaker 1: they just they were showing them shredding up their invoences.
Speaker 1: They were coming in and going like really really, so
Speaker 1: if you don't pay, who's gonna pay? So so, first
Speaker 1: of all, I'm reckoning, I'm burning his little face, you know,
Speaker 1: because they wouldn't reveal his name, you know, for some ready,
Speaker 1: but they just showing his face. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know how, I don't know what what education they got,
Speaker 1: But if I see your face, I'm eventually gonna know
Speaker 1: your name, especially if you're gonna want a job one day.
Speaker 1: So you have this group of students out there who
Speaker 1: are ignoring their responsibility. I'm gonna say, they've accepted the
Speaker 1: the financial aid to get a degree. Now they've left
Speaker 1: college and I'm not gonna pay. What do you say
Speaker 1: the individuals that are doing that out there? So that's
Speaker 1: not a good plan. Um, this is the only day
Speaker 1: in the United States of America that you don't have
Speaker 1: to be a part of for them to collect on.
Speaker 1: I know that people are frustrated I know that they
Speaker 1: are mad, but no one's trying to gun to these
Speaker 1: people's head in terms of borrowing. Right, So you knew
Speaker 1: when you were borrowing elected that there's the situation here
Speaker 1: where they may be incapable of being good borrowers and repayment.
Speaker 1: But other than that, you knew about this that, right,
Speaker 1: So shredding up the paper, that's fine because when they
Speaker 1: electronically go into that bank account or to that employer
Speaker 1: that is mandated to get fIF team per cent per check,
Speaker 1: it is not going to be a game anymore. So
Speaker 1: we don't we don't want to institute that plan. So
Speaker 1: uh so that was that was professionally stated, but very
Speaker 1: funny because I thought the same thing. Okay, I got
Speaker 1: a problem with you because guess what, nobody Nobody just
Speaker 1: stopped you. Now you want to stop the system from collecting. Now,
Speaker 1: let's we want to go through some of them, some
Speaker 1: some questions that were presented to me so I can
Speaker 1: make sure I get all the information that and people.
Speaker 1: First of all, how can people contact you. Let's get
Speaker 1: that out the way first, and we're gonna do now
Speaker 1: at the end of the ship. Yeah, the best play
Speaker 1: is doctor, please help me dot com doctor, please help
Speaker 1: me dot com um where they can call us. Uh,
Speaker 1: they can do that as well to six seven three
Speaker 1: eight six one one one six or I always say.
Speaker 1: The fun for us is on social media Instagram, particularly
Speaker 1: at the Student Loan Doctor. We post about all of
Speaker 1: our events, our webinars. We do a lot of free
Speaker 1: community education, so you don't have to ever buy anything
Speaker 1: from us. But we're going to continue every two weeks
Speaker 1: for the new webinar on a different area, different focus.
Speaker 1: About still alone debt. Okay, you know, because some people
Speaker 1: get all the way through med school, we have two
Speaker 1: hundred fifty dollars in debt. So when you get out, okay,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't cry about that because you knew
Speaker 1: that you went to school that far because you were
Speaker 1: trying to get a job. They're gonna pay you a
Speaker 1: lot of money. And then you now the government saying
Speaker 1: we're gonna know, we want to know about that debt
Speaker 1: before you try to buy a home, correct exactly, So
Speaker 1: they won't even allow you to buy a home. In
Speaker 1: the pre approval process, you're gonna be held up. So
Speaker 1: don't even get your credit check because you just need
Speaker 1: to know going into that's what you're listening today. Put
Speaker 1: your loans and repayments first. And we partner with so
Speaker 1: many potential home buyers because we have different lenders in
Speaker 1: different programs that if you owe over fifty thousand loans,
Speaker 1: you could still get a home, but we've got to
Speaker 1: be savvy about how we have to show up on
Speaker 1: your credit report, and we help. I would say close
Speaker 1: to three hundred potential buyers a month with this process,
Speaker 1: so we're very familiar with it. Three hundred potential buyers
Speaker 1: a month. Yes, this, I'm sure. I'm assuming this is
Speaker 1: country nationwide that you're getting these calls. Oh yeah, exactly
Speaker 1: what we were nationwide was client Jack. I think she
Speaker 1: said that, like us, do you know who you're talking to?
Speaker 1: We're not just statewide to say, we not wrapped into
Speaker 1: a zip code with nationwide. In fact, we worldwide. Sometimes
Speaker 1: when they die alone number we tell no, we don't
Speaker 1: do anything. You know, it's funny if we do have
Speaker 1: worldwide clients. But there us decision. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that there you go, there you go. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: what does consolidation of my loans mean? That was one
Speaker 1: of your questions. Yeah, I think we don't support and
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand consolidation, and then they
Speaker 1: get tricked and they think that the loan will go
Speaker 1: away or they paid you off the full. No, no,
Speaker 1: novalidation is just to some photo all your loans into
Speaker 1: one manageable payment with one lender. And in order to
Speaker 1: be eligible for home money and service forgiveness programs, you
Speaker 1: do need to consolidate your loans. It can change the
Speaker 1: terms of your repayments. So it could make your overall
Speaker 1: interest rate high because it's the some average of your
Speaker 1: all of your loans and they're just rate. So that's
Speaker 1: not fun. But a lot of lenders and again those
Speaker 1: public service don't forgive this program um that are real, right,
Speaker 1: they are inconsolidation. Well, you know, I want to tell everybody,
Speaker 1: like early on in my life or you know, I
Speaker 1: had multiple credit lines of credit that will open and
Speaker 1: I consolidated. One of the best moves I did was
Speaker 1: consolidated my loans into a single payment. But you have
Speaker 1: to remember that's a debt, so you don't just suddenly
Speaker 1: go out there those charges, those credit cards that you
Speaker 1: cleaned up, don't start using them until that single debt
Speaker 1: is paid up. And that's what people make a lot
Speaker 1: of mistakes. They go, Okay, a single single payment, Yes,
Speaker 1: but that single payment resolved some issues over here that
Speaker 1: you were having because you got out of hand on
Speaker 1: your spending. So pay off that single debt, live on
Speaker 1: the cash lifestyle, and that's that's I think it's important
Speaker 1: that people understand that because I do that problem. I
Speaker 1: do that in my credit cards because if I charge
Speaker 1: something that month, then I'm gonna pay it off at
Speaker 1: the end of the month. I do not overcharge. I
Speaker 1: do not charge anything I can't pay off in thirty days.
Speaker 1: I really don't. If I'm gonna charge it, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be paid off in thirty days. Do not ever charge
Speaker 1: anything that you go, well, I paid off down the line,
Speaker 1: because the interest rates will kill you and you can't
Speaker 1: write it off. You can't write it off. That's my
Speaker 1: little note about consolidate loans, like we won't talk about
Speaker 1: you can you kind of hit on this a little
Speaker 1: bit earlier how to resolve default a wage garnish loans. Yes,
Speaker 1: So this is a big challenge because so many people,
Speaker 1: like the example you gave by like I'm not paying it,
Speaker 1: rip it up right. So that's the group that we'll
Speaker 1: be hearing from in about nine months, two hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy business days. Right, So that's the group who want
Speaker 1: to see you know, they're not having pleasant days at
Speaker 1: work because they're checking sixteen percent smaller each pay period.
Speaker 1: Could could wage garnishment and the fault can be resolved. Right,
Speaker 1: you'd like to do it through consolidation. You might can
Speaker 1: do it through an affordable repayment plan. But when it
Speaker 1: gets to that point, that's when collection agencies take over.
Speaker 1: They take it over and they're not the nicest people.
Speaker 1: So we help people before or even once they're at
Speaker 1: that point because it's stressful. I mean literally, it's their
Speaker 1: job to make you not want to come to an agreement.
Speaker 1: Because if the collection agency can keep the loans that
Speaker 1: they were given to work on behalf of the lender,
Speaker 1: they get to add a six thousand dollar administration feed.
Speaker 1: So if you never own up to this or you
Speaker 1: start paying on it without a correct agreement, you just
Speaker 1: added six thousand dollars to your bill. And a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know that. It's at the top of
Speaker 1: the letter. But of course people don't read every detail.
Speaker 1: Everybody know about people don't let everybody know what garnish
Speaker 1: in your wages. You know, like you get you you
Speaker 1: get your check, let's say six, and the taxes come out.
Speaker 1: The tax is going to come out, the taxes, the
Speaker 1: taxes come out, and then that mouth is left. That's
Speaker 1: the part that's garnish. You know, they don't. They don't
Speaker 1: garnish the whole of my out before taxes, taxes come out.
Speaker 1: Uncle Sam gets his money. Then whenever you got left, god,
Speaker 1: well you got some some child support payments where you've
Speaker 1: really got problems, then you know, because they're gonna get
Speaker 1: their money, don't care whatever left, They're gonna get their money.
Speaker 1: And then it just keeps getting small and small and smaller. Ms. Lewis,
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on the show
Speaker 1: that you are just you are entertaining. Are you all?
Speaker 1: I know that down here and said you're you're very
Speaker 1: popular expert speaker across the country. You've shown it on
Speaker 1: this show. And can you tell everybody the phone number
Speaker 1: again as well as the website so they could be
Speaker 1: one of those three hundred callers that they call. They
Speaker 1: call you that number and they want to get support
Speaker 1: and help and maybe one of those international callers who
Speaker 1: got property stay side. Yes, So we're open today on
Speaker 1: the nine pm Eastern uh to six seven three six
Speaker 1: one one one six and then our website is doctor
Speaker 1: Please Help Me dot com and on Instagram you can
Speaker 1: follow my page at the Student Loans Doctor. So thank
Speaker 1: you so much for having us and I really appreciate
Speaker 1: your time today and making awareness to this issue. You're
Speaker 1: you're fantastic and we'll have you back. Thank you for
Speaker 1: coming on the show. This for Sean McDonald. You're listening
Speaker 1: to money making conversations. We were having coffee and I
Speaker 1: asked Jen where we should go on vacation, and I said,
Speaker 1: with our bills, I don't see a vacation happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: between our credit cards, a washer and stove we bought
Speaker 1: on credit, and that unexpected car repair, Yeah, that wasn't
Speaker 1: in the budget. Anyway, we agreed to take the week
Speaker 1: to research choices for a fixed rate personal loan that
Speaker 1: would let us consolidate all our bills into one low
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Speaker 1: Affairs for their easy online loan app that takes about
Speaker 1: a minute and doesn't impact your credit score. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: When you go out NBA and pH d, how do
Speaker 1: you do that? How? What? What motivation leads you to
Speaker 1: that next level of education. So that's a great question,
Speaker 1: and I have people say this to me all the time.
Speaker 1: I did not go back to get my doctor to
Speaker 1: be called doctor Rhodes. I went back to give me credibility.
Speaker 1: So when I was able to walk into a room
Speaker 1: and have a conversation, or walk into a room and
Speaker 1: have a seat at the table, that helped that. Because
Speaker 1: the one thing people can't take away from you are
Speaker 1: two things. They can't take away your experience and they
Speaker 1: can't take away your education. I agree with that. I
Speaker 1: always tell people, you can't repoll your degree. You cannot
Speaker 1: say page I'm getting long with her already. See, I
Speaker 1: can't teach good. It is my quote. You get that
Speaker 1: degree because they can't report once it goes on that wall.
Speaker 1: That's yours exactly. And so so education is important for you,
Speaker 1: I'm sure for your family. Talk about how you have
Speaker 1: you have sons, I do, I can talk about how
Speaker 1: that your educational influence has shaped their lives. Oh, that's
Speaker 1: a great question. And you know, I have to tell
Speaker 1: the story about the fact that my grandmother and my
Speaker 1: great aunt had their degree. So growing up as a
Speaker 1: little girl, my grandparents, my grandmother had a degree, and
Speaker 1: they were from Arkansas and a small town in Arkansas.
Speaker 1: But my parents have their masters. My dad is everything,
Speaker 1: but he's a b d. Everything but a dissertation. And
Speaker 1: so it was instilled in us. And by the way,
Speaker 1: they were all educators, so it was instilled in us
Speaker 1: that education was something you had to do in order
Speaker 1: for you to advance, in order for you to take
Speaker 1: care of your family. And so interestingly enough to me,
Speaker 1: the challenge and not the challenge, I think my sons
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to see me through my educational pursuit.
Speaker 1: The great thing for me is that they actually saw
Speaker 1: to get my doctorate, and so out of everything else
Speaker 1: had happened. I think that that helped them at least
Speaker 1: to view it and see it. We can talk about
Speaker 1: it all the time, but to really instill something and someone,
Speaker 1: they need to experience it. We know. It's always great
Speaker 1: to hear that because I always tell people about young
Speaker 1: people and people as they grow. It's amazing what what
Speaker 1: young minds will will will will register. That's why are
Speaker 1: always sensitive to abuse relationships, because these these young people
Speaker 1: are seeing things that you might say at one or
Speaker 1: two years old, it's not it's registered. It is registering
Speaker 1: for real. And so as they go, oh that it can.
Speaker 1: It can create an insecure kid, a confident kid, a
Speaker 1: kid all these different ways that you that you march
Speaker 1: and say, your your your children, your son saw you.
Speaker 1: That was a process was defining to them, that was
Speaker 1: an effort process, and that allows them when you say
Speaker 1: you can do it, they go, okay, mom did, and
Speaker 1: that's really important. And I wanted to get that out
Speaker 1: because I was important as we talked about what you
Speaker 1: are achieving as a as a professional, So talk about
Speaker 1: your position at their Lanta break sure and I absolutely
Speaker 1: love it. It's so funny. I've been doing human resources.
Speaker 1: I hate to say it over twenty years, and I've
Speaker 1: had before we get started, what exactly as human resources exactly?
Speaker 1: That's a great question. So I have this conversation all
Speaker 1: the time, but I always view as a human resources professional,
Speaker 1: your goal is to ensure the engagement and the enhancement
Speaker 1: of staff. And so the reality is that although we
Speaker 1: call it human resources, I always state that it's people capital.
Speaker 1: So when you think about the the balance sheet of
Speaker 1: any organization, the highest cost is your staff, absolutely, and
Speaker 1: so when you start thinking of it that way and
Speaker 1: understanding engagement as critical motivation is critical for you to
Speaker 1: get the best out of staff in yourself, that's what
Speaker 1: we do. Now. There are other components, of course that
Speaker 1: goes into that. So I just gave you a really
Speaker 1: broad view of is and it all comes down to
Speaker 1: talent acquisition, making sure that you bring in the right
Speaker 1: talent for the right roles, making sure once they're there.
Speaker 1: That's the talent management part of that, where you are
Speaker 1: really enhancing their experience. You are promoting them through the organization,
Speaker 1: You're teaching them, They're going through learning and development so
Speaker 1: that they cannot only grow themselves personally, professionally, but also
Speaker 1: for the organization and so that that component is very
Speaker 1: critical too, and then all the other aspects that are
Speaker 1: so important for people. So when you think about what's
Speaker 1: happening in the world of benefits, in the world of
Speaker 1: money matters for a one K pension, things of that nature,
Speaker 1: that's part of what we do to we create tools
Speaker 1: and we create systems for people to be able to
Speaker 1: thrive in an organization as opposed to just survive. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about this for a minute. I'll talk about the
Speaker 1: whole process of educating an employee. Yeah, yeah, I'm an employer.
Speaker 1: I'm an employee. I have a certain desire expectation that
Speaker 1: I should say, and so how do I, Okay, I
Speaker 1: hire somebody, Um, how do you enhance their value? Because
Speaker 1: that's the whole purpose of you hire somebody, not to
Speaker 1: be the person that you hire, but to increase value
Speaker 1: so they can be an asset for you accomplish your
Speaker 1: And a lot of times what you think about you're
Speaker 1: doing is that you are hiring people for their potential.
Speaker 1: So when you think about hiring people for their potential,
Speaker 1: you're looking at a piece of paper and you're discerning
Speaker 1: discerning their resume. But beyond that, it is first teaching
Speaker 1: them about the organization, have them go through the level
Speaker 1: of new higher orientation. It gives them an understanding of
Speaker 1: a culture. And then from there in their specific role,
Speaker 1: you're either growing them, enhancing them, are you're building them.
Speaker 1: And so there's a whole lot of ways you need
Speaker 1: to think about it. And so when I think about
Speaker 1: strategy around learning and development and taking an individual understanding
Speaker 1: what their raw skills right and then putting them and
Speaker 1: putting them in situations where they get you can get
Speaker 1: classroom learning, but for me, experiential learning is just as
Speaker 1: critical because going through an experience allows you to understand it. Now,
Speaker 1: it's really interesting when I watch your education because you know,
Speaker 1: Georgia than HBCU than Georgia. Let's let's talk about that journey,
Speaker 1: because I feel that it's important we talk about that
Speaker 1: because HBCUs don't get the credit oftentimes as an education opportunity,
Speaker 1: of valid education opportunities. You know, a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: Howard is like our Harvard that you know, everybody talks
Speaker 1: about Howard, but it's a spellment also talks about spell.
Speaker 1: But those those who two to really get that, uh,
Speaker 1: those to you your home running have a great alumni
Speaker 1: UH partnership. They passed up students. So talk about your
Speaker 1: experience of Georgia HBCU Georgia. I love tell a story
Speaker 1: because my parents both graduated from UM Arkansas, the Universe
Speaker 1: of Arkansas and pan BLA. So they both went to
Speaker 1: U A p B. And when I was getting ready
Speaker 1: to go to college, they were like, you need you
Speaker 1: can get into U A p B. And I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I am running as far as I can from an
Speaker 1: h B c U. I'm not doing that. So I
Speaker 1: did my undergraduate experience at the University of Georgia. Very
Speaker 1: rich experience, very amazing experience. But there was one thing
Speaker 1: I was missing. It was the community that I know
Speaker 1: my parents had. Yeah, that I and my grandmother they
Speaker 1: were telling because my grandmother went to U A p
Speaker 1: B two But all right, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I know this, I'm going to Georgia. The moment that
Speaker 1: I had the opportunity and knew that I was going
Speaker 1: to go back and get my m B A, I
Speaker 1: knew I was going to an HBCU and so the
Speaker 1: experience that I got from and again not taking anyway
Speaker 1: from a majority school, the experience I got at U
Speaker 1: A p B was absolutely amazing. Those people that I
Speaker 1: graduated with, it was sixty two of us. All of
Speaker 1: them were in my wedding. Two of them for them
Speaker 1: are very close friends of mine. We have forged relationships.
Speaker 1: And the other thing that I would say to you,
Speaker 1: my whole thought process around perseverance came from going to
Speaker 1: A two an HBCU and just the community that I
Speaker 1: built there. I can talk about Dr Kimbro, I can
Speaker 1: talk about Dr Davis like I can call these gentlemen
Speaker 1: still up to this day. And when I got ready
Speaker 1: to go back to get my doctorate, I did and
Speaker 1: they gave me a recommendation without a question, which is
Speaker 1: about relationship. That is exactly right. But a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't understand of value because I always tell people
Speaker 1: you can't stand by yourself and you can't climb by yourself.
Speaker 1: Relationship help you each step of the way, and when
Speaker 1: you fall back, they can be there with open arms
Speaker 1: to support you your your sudden come to motivate you
Speaker 1: to get back up. So, with that being said, what
Speaker 1: do you do on a daily basis? Got like a
Speaker 1: minute and a half left. We've been talking up a storm.
Speaker 1: What do you do over there with the Atlanta Braves.
Speaker 1: I've rattled off a lot of a lot of affiliate
Speaker 1: relationships over there. What do you do but day in
Speaker 1: the life of doctor, So it changes every day, because
Speaker 1: I will tell you, dealing with the human element changes
Speaker 1: every single time. And so the one thing that I
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to do is because it's an amazing brand.
Speaker 1: And the fact is is that my I feel like
Speaker 1: my role is just to enhance what was already there,
Speaker 1: and so that's what I think about doing every single day.
Speaker 1: What can we do more to teach and and to
Speaker 1: train and develop our staff? Well, you know the thing
Speaker 1: about it, I will tell you, and this is anybody
Speaker 1: who's uh, who's employee, anybody who's looking to open a
Speaker 1: small business, HR has to be the front of your conversation,
Speaker 1: has to be at the front of your conversation. Right
Speaker 1: after finances. HR better be right there because that will
Speaker 1: because you have to look at employees as capital. And
Speaker 1: if you don't look at them as money making capital,
Speaker 1: then guess what you already failed. And what you're trying
Speaker 1: to do is project success to your story. And you
Speaker 1: have to treat them like we would treat families. They
Speaker 1: have issues, you have issues. Learned to merge the two
Speaker 1: so you can have a positive relationship. That was pretty good.
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