Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to another exciting episode of Let's Talk About Myths. Baby.
Speaker 1: This is the podcast where a giant nerd about mythology,
Speaker 1: amongst many other things, tells you stories of ancient Greek
Speaker 1: and in this case, Roman myths. It's educational and it's entertaining.
Speaker 1: I'm the whole package, my friends. This is our third
Speaker 1: and final part of the story of Cupid and Psyche,
Speaker 1: my favorite myth of all time, that which resides in
Speaker 1: my heart forever. I hope you're enjoying some nice, full
Speaker 1: weather and ideally not having to deal with the many
Speaker 1: terrifying natural disasters currently befalling our beautiful planet. Or I
Speaker 1: guess spring weather for Australia, is that right anywhere? Today's
Speaker 1: podcast is a day late because this weekend was Canadian
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and I was tired and didn't write or recorded
Speaker 1: on times such as Life Now, and I have a
Speaker 1: lot of American listeners, and I feel the urge to
Speaker 1: tell you a bit about Canadian Thanksgiving, notably that it
Speaker 1: takes place in October, when the weather is still nice
Speaker 1: and warm and the leaves are still on the trees,
Speaker 1: just when that crisp fall air is starting to come around.
Speaker 1: It's really quite lovely, and sometimes I feel it it's
Speaker 1: sad that the other Thanksgiving is all the way in November.
Speaker 1: Isn't it too close to the winter holidays? Isn't it
Speaker 1: too cold? Don't they just blend into one another? Anyway,
Speaker 1: Welcome American friends and enjoy a post Canadian Thanksgiving episode.
Speaker 1: You'll recall from the last two episodes all the excitement
Speaker 1: and madness that we've covered when it comes to old
Speaker 1: Cupid and Psyche. But for the sake of all your memories,
Speaker 1: I'm going to provide a recap. So Psyche is super beautiful,
Speaker 1: just mega hot. She's so hot that the people ever
Speaker 1: village start comparing her to Venus and eventually neglecting their
Speaker 1: worship of Venus because they're so goddamn obsessed with Psyche. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it's pretty weird. Her parents want her married off because
Speaker 1: that's just how this bullshit went, and so her father
Speaker 1: went to the oracle to figure out how to make
Speaker 1: that happen. Meanwhile, Venus was so angry that the villagers
Speaker 1: of Psyche's town were neglecting her that she called upon
Speaker 1: her son, Cupid, who has all the characteristics of the
Speaker 1: famous Valentine's Day Cupid, but who was importantly an adult Venus,
Speaker 1: called on Cupid to prick Psyche with one of his
Speaker 1: love arrows when she was strategically placed in front of
Speaker 1: some monster person, so that she would fall in love
Speaker 1: with that monster person and therefore be off the market,
Speaker 1: leaving those villagers to go back to worshiping Venus. But
Speaker 1: what we now know is that Cupid was super into
Speaker 1: Psyche when he went down with the intention of sucking
Speaker 1: up her life, and a combination of his attraction to
Speaker 1: her and pricking himself with his own love arrow, which
Speaker 1: was pretty stupid, meant that Cupid was now in love
Speaker 1: with Psyche himself, so instead of ruining her life, he
Speaker 1: came up with a plan. But sy He's dad had
Speaker 1: of course already gone to the oracle, which is always
Speaker 1: a good idea and never ends badly. The oracle gave
Speaker 1: some prophecy and Psyche ended up abandoned on a mound
Speaker 1: for a crazy monster to get her, but instead she
Speaker 1: was whisked away to a palace that Cupid had set up,
Speaker 1: and they got married and eventually she got pregnant, except
Speaker 1: Psyche didn't know who he was. She knew she was
Speaker 1: being visited by a mystery husband every night whose face
Speaker 1: she couldn't see, but she didn't know who he was.
Speaker 1: Her sisters ended up visiting and their bitches and tried
Speaker 1: to convince her to kill Cupid in the night, but
Speaker 1: instead she found out who he was and accidentally burned
Speaker 1: him with hot oil and made him mad, and he
Speaker 1: left her, and he went up to Mount Olympus to
Speaker 1: hide away with what was apparently a super dangerous burn.
Speaker 1: It's like he got revenge in her sisters and eventually
Speaker 1: went to see Venus to see what she could do
Speaker 1: about fixing the goddamn mess she was in. Venus gets
Speaker 1: real worked up, says some nasty style, and then threatens
Speaker 1: the life of the baby hold up in Psyche's womb.
Speaker 1: That great, and we're caught up few. This is episode
Speaker 1: twelve Ancient Cinderella, but with less singing and more violence.
Speaker 1: Cupid and Psyche Part three. So here we are. Psyche
Speaker 1: is on Venus's territory and Venus is not psyched. We
Speaker 1: hear that Cupid is in the same place too, but
Speaker 1: they haven't seen each other yet. He is, of course,
Speaker 1: still deathly ill from his oil burn, which I'll say again,
Speaker 1: sounds pretty benign, but what can you do. Maybe gods
Speaker 1: are immortal until they're burned with a little hot oil
Speaker 1: and then everything goes to ship and it's all over.
Speaker 1: So as further punishment for Psyche for you know, generally
Speaker 1: just being beautiful, but also for injuring cupid, Venus grabs
Speaker 1: a whole slew of produce or produce whichever. She grabs
Speaker 1: hundreds of seeds and chickpeas and lentils and beans and
Speaker 1: basically all forms of tiny vegetables and legumes, and she
Speaker 1: throws them all together in a bag and shakes it
Speaker 1: around like a giant, pliable morocca. Venus then tells Psyche
Speaker 1: that she must take all these little pieces and sort
Speaker 1: them out again into their various types, totally normal and
Speaker 1: not at all insane and super bizarre punishment. Then Venus
Speaker 1: leaves to attend a wedding as you do. Psyche, though,
Speaker 1: just stares at this bag of veggies and legumes and
Speaker 1: is basically just like, what the fuck is wrong with you, lady?
Speaker 1: But it turns out it's like he's got friends. She's
Speaker 1: basically ancient cinder fucking rella and nearby aunt, Yes, the
Speaker 1: bug notices her plight and takes pity on her. Plus part,
Speaker 1: told he's a fan of Cupid. Cupid's got a number
Speaker 1: of fans, as it seems, Little Aunt Dude calls together
Speaker 1: all his hundreds of aunt pals and they take to
Speaker 1: the task. They sort everything into neat piles, and then
Speaker 1: they piece out easy peasy, what were you worried about? Psyche?
Speaker 1: Of course, later that night, Venus shows up. She's just
Speaker 1: been at a wedding, so she's totally wasted, and she
Speaker 1: sees that the task is done. Immediately she knows it
Speaker 1: wasn't Psyche who did it, but instead of thinking maybe
Speaker 1: it was hundreds of tiny insects, she assumes Cupid had
Speaker 1: come along and magically helped Psyche, so she chooses to
Speaker 1: blame her injured son instead of bugs. Cupid is, of course,
Speaker 1: still locked up in his room. He couldn't have left anyway.
Speaker 1: He's hidden away garden so he can't get out and
Speaker 1: see Psyche. They're both magically in love in addition to
Speaker 1: having been together quite a while and having created a
Speaker 1: baby and everything, so kind of real love, so you know,
Speaker 1: they're both kind of into seeing each other again. But
Speaker 1: Venus won't have any of that. So the next morning,
Speaker 1: Venus summons Psyche to see her again. She's got another
Speaker 1: totally insane punishment to dole out. She leads Psyche to
Speaker 1: somewhere fancy on Mount Olympus. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: Mount Olympus wherever Venus lives permanently. Who's to say whether
Speaker 1: it's magical or not. Anyway, that's where they are. Did
Speaker 1: I say Mount Olympus last week? Anyway? They look out
Speaker 1: on a field, and Venus says, so down they were
Speaker 1: a ton of sheep. They just hang out and graze,
Speaker 1: totally chill. But here's the trick. They have golden fucking fleece.
Speaker 1: They just grow gold on themselves, you know, as you do. Now, Psyche,
Speaker 1: go down there and steal it. Tough to their gold,
Speaker 1: will you. Now, if you've heard of a myth specific
Speaker 1: to golden fleece, this is not it. That's Jason, because
Speaker 1: they're probably the same sheep. I don't know. All I'm
Speaker 1: saying is this isn't the myth you're looking for. Psyche agree,
Speaker 1: but not because she wanted to complete this task. No,
Speaker 1: she just thinks it would be a good way to
Speaker 1: kill herself and end it all. But what do we
Speaker 1: learn last time? It's super hard to kill yourself when
Speaker 1: you have personified or anthropomorphized beings there to stop you. See,
Speaker 1: in this case, a read like the plant that's in
Speaker 1: the nearby river stop Psyche from killing herself. On top
Speaker 1: of that, that read also tells Psyche that she doesn't
Speaker 1: want to try to get the tuft of gold from
Speaker 1: the sheep. Now, no, they're in a bad mood because
Speaker 1: it's hot and they're cranky, and they'll deaf kill you
Speaker 1: if you try. Now, the retail Psyche to wait until
Speaker 1: the sheep have calmed down and hide in a tree,
Speaker 1: and then shake the branches of that tree, and she'll
Speaker 1: find all the tufts of gold she needs. So Psyche does,
Speaker 1: and she brings the gold back to Venus, who is
Speaker 1: once again not super thrilled that this punishment didn't either
Speaker 1: drive Psyche crazy or straight up kill her. Venus has goals.
Speaker 1: If you haven't caught on, we're told quote, the goddess
Speaker 1: scrunched up her eyebrows and said, with a bitter smile,
Speaker 1: you too, don't fool me. That degenerate did this for
Speaker 1: you as well. So once again she blames her son.
Speaker 1: I think Venus is kind of losing it. Honestly, didn't
Speaker 1: this start because she loved her son so damn much.
Speaker 1: Now it seems like she's just blaming him for everything,
Speaker 1: even though she's the one who said he's near death.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't make any sense. Venus not to be
Speaker 1: outdone by herself, Venus has yet another crazy punishment slash
Speaker 1: task for Psyche to perform. She points to a mountain
Speaker 1: nearby with the river coming from it, that river being
Speaker 1: you know, the River Sticks, the famous river of the underworld.
Speaker 1: She tells Psyche to go get some water from that
Speaker 1: river and return with it. She hands her little crystal
Speaker 1: container to put it in, and off goes Psyche. Psyche,
Speaker 1: of course, immediately thought of how she could just use
Speaker 1: this task to kill herself, something I wish she would
Speaker 1: stop doing, because frankly, it's getting a little tired. But
Speaker 1: turns out this mountain and the river are bananas, just terrifying.
Speaker 1: The mountain is craggy, with all these sharp cliffs and
Speaker 1: protuberances a word in the book You're Welcome, and the
Speaker 1: river is literally described as belching, and it's basically all
Speaker 1: just terrifying. I mean, it's belching, and I guess for
Speaker 1: this reason, it's like he gives up trying to kill herself.
Speaker 1: But at the mouth of the river she does encounter
Speaker 1: a bunch of unmoving serpents who start heckling her. That's right.
Speaker 1: They're like in the mountain but also scary, so I
Speaker 1: guess they can do damage. They're not totally unmoving anyway.
Speaker 1: They say, quote, get out, what do you think you're doing? Hey,
Speaker 1: what are you up to? You better watch it, beat it.
Speaker 1: This is as much as your life is worth. That
Speaker 1: last one seems a little over the top to me,
Speaker 1: but what do I know it. Psyche's a bit overwhelmed
Speaker 1: by this, and she is basically just useless in fear.
Speaker 1: She's kind of just standing there. I mean, one of
Speaker 1: them did tell her that this as much as her
Speaker 1: life is worth. That's a low blow. But then old
Speaker 1: Jupiter decides to jump in. And yes, I did write
Speaker 1: Zeus there and have to correct it mid sentence. There's
Speaker 1: my cat. His name's Lupin by the way. Anyway, Jupiter
Speaker 1: comes down in his eagle form, something he sometimes does
Speaker 1: for a purpose other than to rape, which is nice
Speaker 1: of him, and it kind of heckels Psyche, first bugging
Speaker 1: her for not being great at this whole thing. He
Speaker 1: tells her that actually everyone is so afraid of this
Speaker 1: water that even the gods wouldn't dare to try to
Speaker 1: steal over any of it. Then he grabs the jar
Speaker 1: from her, and he gets past the weird serpent guys
Speaker 1: with the judgmental tones, and he steals some of the water,
Speaker 1: and then in a weird lie, he tells Psyche that
Speaker 1: he was there on order of Venus. Psyche brings it
Speaker 1: back to Venus, and in another surprise turn of events,
Speaker 1: Venus is not thrilled, but Psyche succeeded. She says she
Speaker 1: has yet another task for Psyche to perform. This time
Speaker 1: she's to go into the underworld yep, straight up into
Speaker 1: the world of the dead, which basically no one ever
Speaker 1: goes into because you know, death, and she has to
Speaker 1: find the queen of the underworld, Proserpina, you know her
Speaker 1: as Persephone in the Greek and she's to ask Proserpina
Speaker 1: for some of her loveliness because Venus wants it. Venus says,
Speaker 1: to ask for some of the loveliness because Venus needs it.
Speaker 1: Having run out caring for her six son. Bullshit, guys.
Speaker 1: I won't try to sugarcoat it. Psyche tries to kill
Speaker 1: herself again. Just like, give it up, Psyche, you have
Speaker 1: stuff to live for. Just you know, take a breath,
Speaker 1: maybe see a psychiatrist. Anyway, she decides to launch herself
Speaker 1: off the top of a tower. This is the tower
Speaker 1: she's been staying in, but the tower itself, of all things,
Speaker 1: tells her not to kill herself. Weirdly, the tower also
Speaker 1: seems to have incredibly detailed instructions as to how to
Speaker 1: enter the underworld, like really detailed instructions where to go,
Speaker 1: who you'll encounter, the fact that when you're in a
Speaker 1: boat crossing the river there will be a deceased senior
Speaker 1: swimming by who wants to get in, but you can't
Speaker 1: let him. I'm picturing Harry and Dumbledore trying to get
Speaker 1: the locket in the cave, just bodies everywhere, magic and fire. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Psychic received eaves these incredibly detailed instructions, which I won't
Speaker 1: try to explain here. There's a lot of talk of
Speaker 1: going to Lack of Daimon, which is also called Sparta
Speaker 1: you might know it, and finding a whole where she
Speaker 1: should enter and all this craziness. The underworld is not
Speaker 1: a nice place to be, not at all. It's smelly
Speaker 1: and dark and full of monsters and guards and obviously
Speaker 1: hella dead people. The Tower even tells Psyche about old
Speaker 1: Cerberus Fluffy, the three headed dog. The guards the entrance
Speaker 1: to proser Pina's mentioned. Give him some food, she's told,
Speaker 1: and she can get right by, because apparently it's very
Speaker 1: easy to get past a massive dog with three heads.
Speaker 1: Just throw at a raw steak, for God's sake. So
Speaker 1: Psyche listens to these instructions and gets to Proserpina and
Speaker 1: asks for some of her loveliness. Oh and she's also
Speaker 1: explicitly told by the Tower not to look inside and
Speaker 1: examine the contents of whatever Proserpina gives her. So she
Speaker 1: follows every instruction down to the letter. She handles everything perfectly,
Speaker 1: no mess ups at all. It's really quite incredible, until, obviously,
Speaker 1: she decides she will look inside the jar that Proserpina
Speaker 1: gave her, because curiosity and cats and all that. Of course,
Speaker 1: when she opens it, there's nothing inside, very mysterious, well,
Speaker 1: nothing except an infernal sleep straight from the river sticks,
Speaker 1: and so immediately Psyche falls asleep and is basically dead
Speaker 1: to the world. Unwake up herble, you might say, if
Speaker 1: you wanted to make up words now, up to this point,
Speaker 1: you might have thought, you know, this story is actually
Speaker 1: pretty incredible when it comes to females. I mean, sure,
Speaker 1: Psyche tries to kill herself like a hundred times, but
Speaker 1: you know, mental health is a real problem, so it's
Speaker 1: not criticized. Thankfully, she was saved, but otherwise she's pretty
Speaker 1: bad ass. You know, she's completing all these tasks, she's
Speaker 1: trying to save herself and her marriage. You know, she's
Speaker 1: not running and hiding, she's standing up for herself. But
Speaker 1: let me stop you right there and reminds you that
Speaker 1: basically everything in the ancient world came from the mouths
Speaker 1: of men. So while all of that is true and
Speaker 1: Psyche was a badass, be kicking ass. In this moment
Speaker 1: that Psyche has fallen asleep, Cupid realizes that his burne
Speaker 1: is all healed. How very lucky. So of course he
Speaker 1: goes looking for her and immediately finds her and immediately
Speaker 1: fixes things. Now, as much as I want to think
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, here's another story of a man saving
Speaker 1: a woman, even after she did lots of other stuff
Speaker 1: herself up until this very moment that she needed saving.
Speaker 1: As much as I want to say that, this moment
Speaker 1: is what is captured by Antonio Canova, the artist whose
Speaker 1: work on Instagram last week. Just go back and look
Speaker 1: at the post, Okay, And I'm going to talk about
Speaker 1: it more at the end, because in this moment, Cupid
Speaker 1: find Psyche and he wipes the sleep off her and
Speaker 1: back into the container, and he tells her to finish
Speaker 1: her task and deliver it to his mother. He's got
Speaker 1: some things to handle. Cupid heads straight up to Mount
Speaker 1: Olympus and he goes to talk to our friend Jupiter
Speaker 1: Zeus all powerful dipshit. Jupiter, in his defense, has a
Speaker 1: pretty fun speech to give to Cupid. Cupid, of course,
Speaker 1: asks Jupiter to intervene to stop Venus from causing Psyche
Speaker 1: so much grief and to just let them be married.
Speaker 1: In this translation, you know the one, he calls Cupid
Speaker 1: sunny Boss and accuses him of all sorts of exciting things,
Speaker 1: including quote, in violation of public order, you have contrived
Speaker 1: disgusting adulteries, damaging my standing and reputation. My countenance should
Speaker 1: remain cloudless and above it all, but you have given
Speaker 1: it the low forms of wild animals and birds and
Speaker 1: chattel of the herds. So essentially, he's blaming Cupid for
Speaker 1: all the times he's been a super creepy asshole. Then
Speaker 1: he has Mercury call a meeting of all the gods
Speaker 1: and goddesses. They convene to discuss the trouble that is Cupid. Quote.
Speaker 1: We've had enough scandal with these daily stories of his adulteries, seductions, corruptions,
Speaker 1: et cetera. We must eliminate any opportunity for more and
Speaker 1: bind his boyish friskiness with the hobbles of matrimony. Poetic,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you say? Then Jupiter turns to Venus and he
Speaker 1: tells her she can cool it, that her family reputation
Speaker 1: is intact. It's all good. Then he tells Mercury to
Speaker 1: go get Psyche. Mercury brings Psyche up to Mount Olympus,
Speaker 1: and Jupiter tells her to drink the ambrosia, the drink
Speaker 1: of the gods that I haven't really covered yet but
Speaker 1: is a thing. He tells her to drink and in drinking,
Speaker 1: become immortal a goddess. She does and then a wedding
Speaker 1: is held for them on Mount Olympus, all very decadent
Speaker 1: and exciting. It's attended by everyone, and there's lots of
Speaker 1: details of the contributions by some of the minor deities.
Speaker 1: But what I feel must be shared is that the
Speaker 1: hours quote empurpled everything with roses and flowers. That's right, empurpled,
Speaker 1: as in made purple purple. I guess I should say
Speaker 1: that purple was like the royal color in ancient Rome,
Speaker 1: but still empurpled. God, I love it well, my friends.
Speaker 1: That is the story of Cupid and Psyche, and it
Speaker 1: only took three parts. In the future, I'll likely be
Speaker 1: doing multiple part episodes often because there's this little thing
Speaker 1: called the Trojan War and the preceding and resulting madness
Speaker 1: that will likely take up quite a few episodes. If
Speaker 1: you have any suggestions as to how I can make
Speaker 1: multi part episodes easier on you, the listener, let me know.
Speaker 1: Or if you just straight up and joined multi parts,
Speaker 1: let me know too, because that would make me feel good. Now,
Speaker 1: as I mentioned the pieces of art by Antonio Canova,
Speaker 1: so they're amazing, but also there's a they Now I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna go ahead and talk about this as they
Speaker 1: relate to my own life, because I'm just that into myself.
Speaker 1: I first went to the Loop when I was like sixteen,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if i'd seen the piece before
Speaker 1: in pictures. I think I had, But anyway, I see
Speaker 1: his most famous piece, a more a psyche, the perfect
Speaker 1: marble and the stunning features. It's incredible, It's stunning. It
Speaker 1: makes my heart leap even now. I've been obsessed with
Speaker 1: it ever since, and went a role when I was
Speaker 1: like twenty and there I bought a tiny figurine version.
Speaker 1: Cuban's face is kind of weird in it, put man,
Speaker 1: do I love it? Anyway? Later I discovered that there
Speaker 1: was a version that was painted, a painting of the
Speaker 1: same piece, but with color and a background and more details.
Speaker 1: I lost it then. Even more years later, when I
Speaker 1: was like twenty four, I went to New York and
Speaker 1: visited the Met and frankly, I was a bit crazy
Speaker 1: and spent my visit in the Greek and Roman antiquity section.
Speaker 1: Big surprise, And I guess I should say here that
Speaker 1: Antonio Canova was much much later. I think it was
Speaker 1: either during the Renaissance or even a few centuries later
Speaker 1: than that, maybe it. Anyway, Finally I leave that, I
Speaker 1: leave that section and I race around where my family
Speaker 1: is because you know, they've seen the rest of the museum,
Speaker 1: and I try to see the classics that you're supposed
Speaker 1: to see at the met Monai's water Lilies, the van
Speaker 1: Go collection, and I'm searching for those. When I turn
Speaker 1: a corner and there it is. I feel like you
Speaker 1: might think I'm dramatizing how this moment went, and I'm not.
Speaker 1: I lost my ship. There was yet another version of
Speaker 1: a Mori Psyche. It's kind of a draft version. I
Speaker 1: guess it's not done in marble, and it looks unfinished.
Speaker 1: It's rough and just rugged looking. Anyway, I'm examining it
Speaker 1: and losing my mind. And then I noticed that in
Speaker 1: this version Psyche has wings. She has wings, you guys,
Speaker 1: butterfly wings. Anyway, this is not new. There are many
Speaker 1: versions of art and maybe versions of the story where
Speaker 1: at some point Psyche has butterfly wings. I've never quite
Speaker 1: understood it. There's even a very famous painting of two cherubs,
Speaker 1: little chubby babies, one with cupid wings and one with
Speaker 1: butterf my wings. Minutes baby Cupid and Psyche and it's adorable.
Speaker 1: But anyway, the surprise for me was one that a
Speaker 1: draft version of this statue existed at all, because it
Speaker 1: was truly my favorite thing for like a straight decade,
Speaker 1: and I never knew there was all this other, all
Speaker 1: this other, all these other versions. Can't speak. I'm too excited. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it was a big deal and I was like, call
Speaker 1: it func. She has wings and I'm like looking around
Speaker 1: and I didn't notice someone. Then there they were. It's
Speaker 1: all good, I'm fine. Anyway. To close off this rant,
Speaker 1: this story gets a bonus recommendation because old C. S.
Speaker 1: Lewis of Narnia fame actually wrote a novel retelling the
Speaker 1: story of Cuban and Psyche. It's in a different world
Speaker 1: and everyone has different names, and those names are kind
Speaker 1: of weird, but otherwise it's basically exact and it's really
Speaker 1: fascinating and good. It's super not like Narnia at all.
Speaker 1: It's called Till We Have Faces, and I nearly lost
Speaker 1: my mind when I learned it existed. As usual, I'd
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