Speaker 1: To with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamorra Judge.
Speaker 2: All Right, guys, welcome to another episode of to Teas
Speaker 2: and Pod with Myself Camp. And we are very excited
Speaker 2: because not only do we have Emily Simpson here, we
Speaker 2: have Cynthia Bailey and.
Speaker 3: The finest girl is in reality TV. But here's the
Speaker 3: thing we actually know what ag.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that you're.
Speaker 2: Going on no, but I think this is a pivotal
Speaker 2: podcast because soon Cynthia will be recapping Orange County with me,
Speaker 2: and you need to kind of grill them a little bit,
Speaker 2: not about what we're going to see on the show
Speaker 2: that they can't share with us, but anything that you
Speaker 2: thought about last year that you you may have said.
Speaker 4: Or don't break out you are one half whole moment
Speaker 4: and and I.
Speaker 1: One that really really triggered me. Okay, there was it
Speaker 1: was only one. The other stuff.
Speaker 4: I thought you just understood the assignment so bad.
Speaker 1: The napkin thing wore me out.
Speaker 4: That's just coming from someone who's been in the position
Speaker 4: where something like that could escalate to a bigger thing.
Speaker 5: Well, there was a chop, okay, But here's the thing.
Speaker 6: The culprit of the napkin. It wasn't going to escalate
Speaker 6: because she wasn't going to do anything back. If she
Speaker 6: threw a napkin in my face, it would have been.
Speaker 2: Absolutely Was you giving her a little kick the way
Speaker 2: that Cynthia gave Uh?
Speaker 4: Well, way you got to bring up old stuffs. I
Speaker 4: was protecting my space and I just would want to
Speaker 4: go on the record to say that I am immediate.
Speaker 1: I immediately felt horrible. Yeah, okay, like you immediately.
Speaker 5: When you get so frustrated that you can't use your
Speaker 5: big girl, but I gotta kicks.
Speaker 4: I literally could not risk. I almost was like, can
Speaker 4: you just come over and kick me back?
Speaker 5: She came after my marriage, you can after my marriage
Speaker 5: and my kids like that?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I have a question I have coming after
Speaker 2: her relationship at the same time, maybe.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, why okay?
Speaker 6: But when you when you have legitimate concerns about someone's relationship,
Speaker 6: I think that's okay. But when someone has a solid
Speaker 6: marriage and you come after that, and that's when you
Speaker 6: get pissed. Like if you're gonna come after me and Shane,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna get pissed.
Speaker 5: But did you how frustrated I was when she basically
Speaker 5: said like I think she was insinuated I had the
Speaker 5: hots for him. I mean I couldn't. I was either
Speaker 5: punching the throat or throw a napkin.
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, listen, if you're not turned on by
Speaker 2: those coats that Ryan wears, then I don't know.
Speaker 1: I still want one.
Speaker 4: By the way, No, No, the thing with you, Tam, Like,
Speaker 4: I get it, it's a show. You guys have to
Speaker 4: bring up the obvious things that are going on. Well, okay,
Speaker 4: and that's fine.
Speaker 1: I can respect that.
Speaker 4: It just was a point where I felt like you
Speaker 4: just needed to let it go, and you just wouldn't
Speaker 4: let it go.
Speaker 5: But what you did not see is I'm not the
Speaker 5: one that brought all that up. There was a bunch
Speaker 5: of people that brought that up, and we're pulling it
Speaker 5: out and I'm like, I was frustrated because I thought
Speaker 5: we were done.
Speaker 4: With it because I didn't really see that many other people.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I was not the one that brought it up at
Speaker 5: the table. I thought that me and Jen had put
Speaker 5: all this behind us, and then I think Gina was
Speaker 5: the one maybe throughout the it's really sim and then
Speaker 5: and then whatever it is, what it is.
Speaker 6: Or she was making references to you, like saying that
Speaker 6: Ryan was hot, or you wanted to take his shirt off,
Speaker 6: or that just like something like that.
Speaker 4: It's a hot person because I actually ever thought he
Speaker 4: was that hot, Like I mean, you guys made it
Speaker 4: seem like that guy was like like everybody in Orange County.
Speaker 1: One way.
Speaker 5: I will tell you when he's okay, he came to
Speaker 5: our gym, he would always wear a hat, okay, and
Speaker 5: so it covered.
Speaker 2: The I can say that any man and a hat
Speaker 2: and sunglasses can appear hot because.
Speaker 1: Everything's covered up. You can't actually mean you can't actually.
Speaker 5: Hoses on to we all are.
Speaker 3: The other night we were at No.
Speaker 5: But I will say I don't think he's an I
Speaker 5: don't think he's an ugly man.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: No no, not a bad looking guy. He's just not
Speaker 1: as hot as no.
Speaker 5: He would come to the gym, and he works he's
Speaker 5: a he works out hard, and I appreciate somebody that
Speaker 5: puts out much time and effort into their body. And
Speaker 5: you know, he he was charming actually when he came
Speaker 5: to our him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I thought I actually like this personality, like
Speaker 4: the kind Yeah, I thought it was very likable.
Speaker 3: Let's put you on the spot.
Speaker 1: Great, let's do it.
Speaker 2: If you had to pick one husband from lis of
Speaker 2: Orange County boy.
Speaker 3: To have a tryst with, who would it be?
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 3: And don't act like you're above this because we know.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, all right, I'm just gonna go with the one.
Speaker 4: Her name is Is it Shannon Bador? Is that the
Speaker 4: one that's married to the plastic surgeon guy.
Speaker 1: Shes Orange County? Okay, I know it's so much trouble.
Speaker 4: I guess I know it's the rich one with him,
Speaker 4: and that's like with there's a reason for him.
Speaker 3: What's the reason?
Speaker 1: Well, I can get off free work.
Speaker 4: I'm getting older, I'm about to celebrate my fifty.
Speaker 6: He's a really he's like a nice guy.
Speaker 4: He's a very nice He seems like he completely loves
Speaker 4: his wife.
Speaker 1: Agree.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I feel like I mean, I've gone through
Speaker 4: two marriages and two divorces and I can make it
Speaker 4: work with a guy like him.
Speaker 1: Hates he hates you. Oh I hope nobody can really
Speaker 1: hate you.
Speaker 2: I know, for our husbands to stay married, does they
Speaker 2: must really love us?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Heather seems like she has a great life. I
Speaker 1: would love to And you know, funny is Hilary funny.
Speaker 2: I wish they didn't dislike me so much so that
Speaker 2: I could get to know them.
Speaker 5: Well, I think you were an apology. I. Oh, she
Speaker 5: was at Bravokan and she had a few too many
Speaker 5: and she I don't even know if you remember.
Speaker 3: This, but when she made I'm sorry, Oh, she.
Speaker 5: Just doubled down with the Instagram story.
Speaker 3: Hold on, I'm going to back up here.
Speaker 2: The reason why I started with Heather du Brow was
Speaker 2: because I was having your back. Oh remember when you
Speaker 2: guys were having all of your issues, but you guys
Speaker 2: were fine at that moment.
Speaker 1: It's always Sammer's fault.
Speaker 3: Always.
Speaker 5: I just say, you just just I'm sorry for being
Speaker 5: so hard on you.
Speaker 3: Are you going to go and apologize to all?
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: At Bravo con, I said, let's squash the beef right now,
Speaker 2: let's be done with it, and she said sure, and
Speaker 2: then she changed her mind.
Speaker 5: Oh, we're not going to be talking about Heather to
Speaker 5: bro on my dime.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I already made Tamra hundred dollars bet that.
Speaker 3: I bet by the end of this season they're going
Speaker 3: to have a fight. No, I don't think so. I
Speaker 3: totally disagree with that. I know I don't pay on
Speaker 3: my bets.
Speaker 5: But she's the same girl that just said, do you
Speaker 5: think you and Gina are going to be at odds
Speaker 5: at the end of the season.
Speaker 3: I did know with me.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I didn't say do you think you're gonna be at odds?
Speaker 2: I said do you think there's ever anything that she
Speaker 2: could do to ever?
Speaker 1: Put?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: I feel like I have friendships that I was on
Speaker 3: and I was on the show for less than all
Speaker 3: of you guys.
Speaker 5: So when is Kyle going to stop talking to you?
Speaker 1: That's my point.
Speaker 2: I don't think there ever will be that point, because
Speaker 2: I don't think I will ever cross that line with
Speaker 2: her when I crossed that line.
Speaker 5: If you worked with her on the show, do you
Speaker 5: think you would cross that line?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Never see.
Speaker 6: I agree with that because I feel like you have to.
Speaker 6: I feel like I'm the kind of person who actually
Speaker 6: wants to be friends with people, and I want to
Speaker 6: have real friendships.
Speaker 3: And if you want to have a real friendship, you.
Speaker 1: Have to draw a line.
Speaker 6: So if Gina said to me, as a friend, I
Speaker 6: want to tell you something. I need your advice, but
Speaker 6: please don't ever bring this up on the show. I
Speaker 6: would never do it.
Speaker 1: I agree, never.
Speaker 6: Ground and I would get fired over it because at
Speaker 6: the end of the day, my personal integrity is worth
Speaker 6: more than the show.
Speaker 2: But the fake friendships where they say that they're close
Speaker 2: with you, but then once the show ends they never
Speaker 2: make any effort to ever talk to you again. They
Speaker 2: don't know your personal life, they don't know your kids.
Speaker 2: Then it's like, okay, yeah, I probably could easily go
Speaker 2: that friendship under the bus because I don't think it's
Speaker 2: an authentic friendship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I agree with it. I mean be clear,
Speaker 4: like when you're on a show with six different women.
Speaker 4: I mean, I've been off Atlanta for two years now.
Speaker 4: Obviously I saw all of those ladies a lot more
Speaker 4: when I work with them, because I only teve years.
Speaker 4: It feels like it feels like ten people like are
Speaker 4: you ready to come back?
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, you coming back? I just left. Do
Speaker 1: you know anything about.
Speaker 5: What's going and you can't say, but do you know
Speaker 5: anything that's going on with casting right now?
Speaker 1: I do not know what's going on with There's.
Speaker 2: We heard that Drew so and so who was the
Speaker 2: third person and Courtney were all budded. She was.
Speaker 4: I don't know, to be honest with you, but I
Speaker 4: don't think that that is entirely true. I don't think
Speaker 4: they've made a decision in my opinion, Well, how long
Speaker 4: ago they.
Speaker 3: Film the reunion? Normally they give contracts right after the reunion.
Speaker 1: Having a shakeup me.
Speaker 3: She hasn't heard anything.
Speaker 1: That's what everyone's telling me to the few people that
Speaker 1: I've talked to.
Speaker 3: Do you think there's a chance for Needi to ever
Speaker 3: come back?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I think want to come back.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think.
Speaker 1: That in my heart of hearts.
Speaker 4: And we just reconnected and Dubai and well Abbi Dabby
Speaker 4: and that was great because like, no matter what, like
Speaker 4: that was a real friendship for a really long time.
Speaker 4: The will always be there for her and I have
Speaker 4: zero interest in just being enemies with Lakes, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, especially because we were really really good friends.
Speaker 4: And I mean we're not even on the show. I'm
Speaker 4: not on the show. She's not on the show. So
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, so what what are we over here
Speaker 4: griping about? I felt like she was always great on
Speaker 4: the show. I came on the show my third season,
Speaker 4: season three on the show as Nini's friend, so I
Speaker 4: saw how she helped shape that show in so many ways.
Speaker 4: But I do believe as someone who's not on the
Speaker 4: show anymore, you know, I love when people kind of
Speaker 4: go in and out because sometimes you just need a break.
Speaker 5: Well, you know what I'm saying, you're a floating housewife
Speaker 5: at this point. You were on Let's just break it down.
Speaker 5: We saw you on Beverly Hills.
Speaker 4: Question fo a floating housewife. I was a consistent housewife
Speaker 4: Looly as a friend. I never floated.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, I'm talking about currently. We saw you're
Speaker 5: not on permanent on any housewife show. Well, you come
Speaker 5: on Orange County with us.
Speaker 1: I would love to go. You guys are always on both.
Speaker 5: Okay, So I'm thinking, as they traveling nurses, try not
Speaker 5: should be a position for certain iconic housewives that just
Speaker 5: show up to different parties and different franchises. Yeah, that's
Speaker 5: all I'm saying, just to make it, just make an appearance.
Speaker 4: It is so much fun for me after being on eleven,
Speaker 4: being on Atlanta for eleven years, to just kind of
Speaker 4: pop in and out. I mean, I feel like a
Speaker 4: certain sisterhood to all of you guys. Even this is
Speaker 4: my first time even meeting you, and I was like,
Speaker 4: I fell in love with you just from recapping with Teddy,
Speaker 4: But I've never really hung out with you before. Tamra,
Speaker 4: I'll only kind of wash you from as far as
Speaker 4: Bravo con but I feel like you guys are people.
Speaker 4: So yes, I love the idea of just being able
Speaker 4: to organically and authentically dentively be in a space with
Speaker 4: you guys.
Speaker 1: It's just real.
Speaker 4: So if I'm hanging out in Orange County and you
Speaker 4: guys are filming, sure I'll go on the.
Speaker 6: Boat d talk about the boat right pressure, no pressure,
Speaker 6: have fun.
Speaker 2: And before we get into our plastic surgery conversation, I.
Speaker 3: Do need to ask one additional thing.
Speaker 2: Oh God, do you think when it comes to housewive
Speaker 2: shows and when they're doing well or when they're not
Speaker 2: doing well, do you think that much heat really falls
Speaker 2: on the showrunner or it happens because of the relationships
Speaker 2: with the women.
Speaker 4: I think the show is all about, at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, the relationship with the women. After again,
Speaker 4: eleven years, I've seen showrunners come and go, and I've
Speaker 4: seen us have amazing seasons with a show a showrunner
Speaker 4: who wasn't there great, they just let us do what
Speaker 4: we do, which I think is the best way to
Speaker 4: let it go.
Speaker 5: Have you not over sh yes, and you felt like
Speaker 5: the show still and.
Speaker 1: We still did right because we had a great cast.
Speaker 1: Well I think that and we had great stories. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great friends.
Speaker 5: But I kind of feel like it's it's everything. I
Speaker 5: feel like this is the majority everybody that's working on
Speaker 5: it's the talent, it's a production company, it's a showrunner.
Speaker 4: Cast, a great show runner.
Speaker 1: If you have a bad cast.
Speaker 5: But what I have learned in my fourteen years of
Speaker 5: filming Housewives, we only have a show runner for two
Speaker 5: years and it's somebody new.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't like blaming production and showrunners for a
Speaker 4: bad season personally, because, like I said, I've seen us
Speaker 4: have you know production that you know they were okay
Speaker 4: and an okay showrunner still have a banging ass season.
Speaker 3: Well, how was Carlos King?
Speaker 1: Amazing? Amazing, amazing? So why do you like, can we
Speaker 1: just call him? I know it's called Carlos. Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call Okay, let's call Carlos. He just asked us
Speaker 1: to do his life and you can ask.
Speaker 4: Him why did it stop? Because I don't know what stopped.
Speaker 4: I just know that he was a great showrunner. He
Speaker 4: was Carlos was a sure runner. When I first know it.
Speaker 1: Was the second season that I came on. I can't remember.
Speaker 6: But how many different showrunners have you had in fourteen years?
Speaker 5: On every two years there's a new one.
Speaker 6: So you've had seven different ones? Yeah, at least, I
Speaker 6: mean I've had three different show runners.
Speaker 4: But just for the record, though, before we go into
Speaker 4: the call both tox and fillers, I have not completely
Speaker 4: closed the door to housewives. Like my answer is always
Speaker 4: going to be just not right now. And that's just
Speaker 4: the honest truth. Like I did it for a long time,
Speaker 4: and I am one hundred percent focused on my acting
Speaker 4: career and I just have a lot of other stuff
Speaker 4: going on, and I love that I can still get to,
Speaker 4: you know, popping in that one.
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, I'm going to do watch
Speaker 4: what Happens Live like in two weeks for like a
Speaker 4: show going on script. I still see everybody all the time.
Speaker 3: Who do you think that of the current cast that
Speaker 3: you're closest with?
Speaker 4: Oh that's you know what when you brought that up
Speaker 4: about like, once you leave a show, who you are
Speaker 4: still going to be friends with, who will still take
Speaker 4: your call or whatever. I actually wondered about that, like,
Speaker 4: once I start working with these ladies, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: now I'm going to see who really really is my
Speaker 4: friend friend and I have to say that everyone of
Speaker 4: those ladies on the cast all and you like the
Speaker 4: moment I hit down in Atlanta, I'm getting texts like, hey,
Speaker 4: are you in Atlanta, Let's go for drinks, let's go
Speaker 4: for dinner, and it's all off camera, and I just.
Speaker 1: Because need you back? No no, no, no, no no no no.
Speaker 3: In the room right now.
Speaker 5: I have Cynthia Bailey, I have Emily Simpson, and I
Speaker 5: have Teddy Joe right there.
Speaker 2: Carlos down, hold on, you have to put in.
Speaker 1: I feel like your phone is dirty.
Speaker 2: You need to say, Carlos, all right, talk loudly and
Speaker 2: don't move around.
Speaker 3: Okay, can you hear uside?
Speaker 7: Can you hear me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can hear you.
Speaker 2: We just had a quick question because we were just
Speaker 2: talking about how important showrunners are for these Real Housewives shows.
Speaker 2: If you can still have a good show without a
Speaker 2: good show runner, blah, blah blah, and and Cynthia said, yes,
Speaker 2: you can still have a good show if you have
Speaker 2: a great cast.
Speaker 3: However, Carlos King was the best of.
Speaker 4: The best, the King, but nobody did it better.
Speaker 1: But it's so sure that Carlos.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm always going to give you your flowers,
Speaker 4: and I always appreciate when you give them back.
Speaker 2: Okay, but my question for you is why did you
Speaker 2: leave Atlanta?
Speaker 7: Oh? Simply put two reasons. One, I was there for
Speaker 7: like eight nine years, and I felt like I've done
Speaker 7: everything I could with that show, and Cynthia can attest
Speaker 7: to that.
Speaker 3: Amen.
Speaker 7: And I wanted to like expand and start my own
Speaker 7: production company. So I moved to Los Angeles afterwards because
Speaker 7: I felt that there's nothing more I could do and
Speaker 7: I had to move on.
Speaker 2: Do you miss it, like when you see it struggling
Speaker 2: like this past season, Jesus, Like when you see that happening,
Speaker 2: you're like, say that you're in a safe space, just
Speaker 2: us and our million closest friends.
Speaker 7: I know, I know the number one podcast or a
Speaker 7: TV film, Go ahead, sister.
Speaker 2: But do you when you watch it, are you like shit?
Speaker 2: If that was me, I would do blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And my last question for you is what would you
Speaker 2: do right now to save Atlanta.
Speaker 7: Well, I think they would have to bring a brink
Speaker 7: truck for that answer, so I can't give that away
Speaker 7: for a free but I will say this as Cynthia
Speaker 7: I wanted to agree with me. When I look at Atlanta,
Speaker 7: it's easy to fix. And that's and that's the crazy part.
Speaker 7: When I look at it, I think it's so simple,
Speaker 7: authentic friendships.
Speaker 1: Who are you gonna fire? Well, you know when they ask.
Speaker 7: Me these questions from Patty Honey to me, to me,
Speaker 7: to me, to me to me, there's too many politics involved,
Speaker 7: and that's that's the issue.
Speaker 4: Well, when they asked me that question, Carlos, I said
Speaker 4: that because I don't like what's happening now with everything
Speaker 4: being the fault of the showrunner or production, Like, I
Speaker 4: don't like it falling and the blame going to them entirely,
Speaker 4: because I don't think that's necessarily true.
Speaker 1: When you were show.
Speaker 4: Running Atlanta for many, many years, which was amazing, amazing,
Speaker 4: no matter what was going on, the cast was what.
Speaker 1: Really helped keep that show together.
Speaker 4: If you had the right cast, no matter what was
Speaker 4: going on, we had a good show, true or not true.
Speaker 7: I will always say this, it's a collaborative effort, right,
Speaker 7: I say, I agree.
Speaker 4: But Carlos, you can have a great production team and
Speaker 4: a great showrunner. If you don't have the right cast,
Speaker 4: you're not going to have a good show.
Speaker 7: So I left to do another show because I was
Speaker 7: figed in my production company. I was bad to come
Speaker 7: back season eight to fix it because the showrunner who
Speaker 7: they hired just wasn't doing a good job. And Cynthia
Speaker 7: knows this. When I came back, we foilnd Cynthia's party,
Speaker 7: and that's when Chara almost threw a drink at Kenya.
Speaker 7: Because at the end of the day, it's a collaborative effort.
Speaker 7: So here I am. I'm inheriting the cast already, but
Speaker 7: nothing was happening. When I came in.
Speaker 2: Everything started to happen because they had a relationship with
Speaker 2: you and they trust you.
Speaker 3: But my last question is if you had.
Speaker 2: To boot to and bring two new people in, who
Speaker 2: would it be.
Speaker 3: It could be past people.
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna say boots.
Speaker 2: Fine, let's not say boot Let's say demote them to friends.
Speaker 3: Let's just say fire.
Speaker 7: I'll say this, I'll say this. I'll say this. I'll
Speaker 7: say this. I'll say this. The only thing I will
Speaker 7: say is the best cast in the world. In the
Speaker 7: world was.
Speaker 1: Season six And you're gonna say that.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So season six was Cynthia, charae Nini Portia, Sedra can
Speaker 2: Kenya Phaedra Am I missing anymore the best and.
Speaker 4: I think Marlo's was that was that? It Carlos Yeah,
Speaker 4: and Marlow is a friend.
Speaker 7: Yeah, was perfect.
Speaker 5: Oh hold on, hold on, Carlos, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 5: we have her right now, we have get in here.
Speaker 1: Sit your ass down. You get over her.
Speaker 5: Ji k we have one of the biggest housewife producer.
Speaker 8: Damn.
Speaker 1: Sit down.
Speaker 3: Oh you're in the hot seat right now.
Speaker 1: You didn't even get to like warm up.
Speaker 4: Guy.
Speaker 1: Oh this guy?
Speaker 5: Okay, So this is Carlos can Hi, Carlos.
Speaker 3: I love you, I think.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 8: Happy to answer that I didn't been against anyone. I'm
Speaker 8: going off my personal experience coming on the show with
Speaker 8: this woman thinking that she wanted to be my friend.
Speaker 8: First week of filming, she starts going around to each
Speaker 8: of the women. She starts talking about me, saying, my
Speaker 8: marriage is fake. Thank you. It's arranged that I'm a fraud,
Speaker 8: that I'm in the fucking organized crime, that I launder money,
Speaker 8: that my businesses are fake, that I'm bankrupt and broke.
Speaker 8: So all these things in week one of filming, all
Speaker 8: behind my back, all on camera, saying she doesn't like me.
Speaker 8: So now all this comes back to me. So the
Speaker 8: reunion is my opportunity to call her out, hold her
Speaker 8: accountable for saying all these things. I'm a loyal friend,
Speaker 8: and I came to the show to be myself, which
Speaker 8: is be loyal. She did a lot of damage to
Speaker 8: me personally, saying that my husband's basically like deceptive, leading
Speaker 8: two lives, and that my marriage is arranged. So I'm
Speaker 8: not banning against any one. I'm speaking on my personal experience.
Speaker 8: Don't worry. We're gonna change your mind by the end
Speaker 8: of this weekend. Oh god, what do you guys gonna do?
Speaker 8: You're gonna have to buy me. Would you admit? Would
Speaker 8: you admit?
Speaker 7: Would you admit that she brought eyeballs to the show
Speaker 7: courtesy of the dynamic?
Speaker 8: Okay, I can admit that one season for entertainment purposes
Speaker 8: and shock value, she has now lost trust of all
Speaker 8: the viewers. She well ninety nine point nine percent. She
Speaker 8: has lost trust of all the ladies. So next season,
Speaker 8: when she comes back and says, hey, Carlos, I heard
Speaker 8: your boyfriend is bending over some other guy in his office.
Speaker 8: Are you gonna look at her and say to you?
Speaker 8: Who's gonna believe a word? She says, right, who's gonna
Speaker 8: believe anything she says about the cast? Anything she says?
Speaker 8: She's She's lied. She's been exposed for being a liar
Speaker 8: and a trolled. She has zero credibility. How do you
Speaker 8: come back? How do you have another redo? It's over?
Speaker 8: In my opinion, Yes, has the.
Speaker 7: Ability line on producers and they gave.
Speaker 8: Her the black eye? Okay, okay, do you want are
Speaker 8: you do you want to ask you a question? Do
Speaker 8: you want me to?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah? Why is it? Why are you ladies upset
Speaker 7: with Monica not saying you shouldn't be, but you don't
Speaker 7: have that same any different to me had They're more
Speaker 7: dangerous because the production had to do an investigation due
Speaker 7: to Heather lying on production saying they could have an
Speaker 7: at the footage?
Speaker 2: Hit the footage?
Speaker 7: Could they have given her the black eye? All the while?
Speaker 7: Jen did it?
Speaker 8: Okay, go ahead? Have you ever met Jenshaw. No, okay,
Speaker 8: she is a woman that can walk in the room.
Speaker 8: She's charismatic. Everyone loves her, from the ninety year old
Speaker 8: to the librarian, to the dentist to the d.
Speaker 1: I didn't like her. I nine year olds loved jin
Speaker 1: No she no year old people she didn't.
Speaker 8: But listen, like, I have been with this woman and
Speaker 8: she's charismatic. She she had redeeming qualities right and until
Speaker 8: she pled guilty, we had to believe her right. So
Speaker 8: I have been in Heather's position at times with jen
Speaker 8: where there's a reason she was swindling people out of money.
Speaker 8: She is good at what she does. Like we were
Speaker 8: in love with a woman, you know.
Speaker 7: But Angie, this is the thing, though, Angie, I understand that.
Speaker 7: My thing is you, Colion say you don't remember.
Speaker 1: Why would you?
Speaker 7: Why would you lie and incriminate production who make minimum wage?
Speaker 7: They leave their family at home?
Speaker 8: My agent to go to Salt Lake City.
Speaker 7: Heather is Diabola calls she's a troublemaker. I'm more afraid
Speaker 7: of Heather than Monica.
Speaker 8: Okay, okay, let me answer that. In my personal experience
Speaker 8: with both of them. Heather she uses her humor and
Speaker 8: she admits that she used in the wrong way, like,
Speaker 8: oh well, maybe it's production. She was scirty around the issues.
Speaker 8: She admitted she should not have said that she was
Speaker 8: terrified and we've all been everything about it.
Speaker 3: You got in jail.
Speaker 8: Jen was already on the show for three years. This
Speaker 8: is different than Monica. Okay, because Jen was already on
Speaker 8: the show for three years. The women were stuck with her.
Speaker 8: There was no getting rid of her. It was like
Speaker 8: it was like a cast member or someone you work
Speaker 8: with that you just had to figure out the best
Speaker 8: way around staying on the show with this person and
Speaker 8: dealing with them. Okay, there was a lot of let
Speaker 8: me ask a question.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if she was really terrified of Jen, we all were.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But why wouldn't you.
Speaker 6: Go to production and say, I'm terrified of this woman.
Speaker 6: She gave me a black eye.
Speaker 8: I think it's because she wasn't you Wait, I'm gonna
Speaker 8: say one last thing, Heather. Heather blacks out when she drinks,
Speaker 8: and I don't think she really fully knew what the
Speaker 8: hell happened. She apologized. Matthew did not.
Speaker 7: Continue with the lie. Heather is duplicit it. She continue
Speaker 7: with the lie to sell books. She's not a bad morment,
Speaker 7: she's a bad person.
Speaker 8: Okay, wait, I will say one. I will say one
Speaker 8: last thing. That Heather had regrets and apologized Monica did
Speaker 8: not right, there would have been some redemption for Monica potential.
Speaker 7: Well, I will say this, Angie. I love you. By
Speaker 7: the way I said you are comedy relief. I do
Speaker 7: call you hurricane Angie because because you're like the forecast
Speaker 7: with the wind. But I will say this. I will
Speaker 7: say this. Yes, there was once a show called The
Speaker 7: Real Housewives of Dallas. The show got canceled when somebody
Speaker 7: was gone. There was a show called The Real house
Speaker 7: Wives of oc and Emily, Yes, you can attest to this.
Speaker 7: When was gone, it wasn't great.
Speaker 6: No, I agree with that.
Speaker 2: So Angie, K.
Speaker 7: Look at me girl and your and your expensive sunglasses.
Speaker 8: This is just because I've known.
Speaker 7: All I'm going to say is this, You guys are
Speaker 7: the talk of the town, just like Danielle Style did
Speaker 7: to New Jersey. At the end of the day, you
Speaker 7: always have to do what hammer judge does you put
Speaker 7: on your producer, Hannah, You say, I may feel this way,
Speaker 7: but what is best for the show. And at the
Speaker 7: end of the day I would have done this. Bring
Speaker 7: this bitch back so we can we can get we
Speaker 7: can get at her some more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Maybe you will continue on.
Speaker 1: Left.
Speaker 4: Okay, Oh, don't drag me into this man.
Speaker 2: Okay, guys, I know that that we got a lot.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Carlos King. We got a whoa
Speaker 2: and pop in another bottle. But we do have to
Speaker 2: wrap this episode. But we will bring an Angie K
Speaker 2: officially and not have Carlos King solely grill her. We
Speaker 2: will all do it. So please make sure to tune
Speaker 2: in to the next episode, where Angie will be giving
Speaker 2: us all her hot takes. But I'm also gonna put
Speaker 2: Angie up to a task.
Speaker 8: Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 2: In your response, you cannot use more than twelve words.
Speaker 8: I know, I'll land the plane. I'll keep it.
Speaker 3: That's the rule. If you can do it in twelve words,
Speaker 3: we'll believe you.
Speaker 2: All right, tune in, guys, thanks for joining us.