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Speaker 1: This is the Season with Peter Schrager. We're recording this
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday morning after Championship weekend, going into the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl bye week. I'm with Aaron wan Kauffman. I'm
Speaker 1: with Jason English, folks from the iHeart media team. I'm
Speaker 1: always saddened this week. I know that sounds crazy. We'
Speaker 1: supposed to hyped up. It saddened because I know once
Speaker 1: the games end, Aaron, it's an abyss Now. I love
Speaker 1: the draft, I love free agency, but like I love
Speaker 1: the games. I love talking about the games. And boy
Speaker 1: do I have some thoughts on the games that we
Speaker 1: just watched. Before we turn the page and go to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Let me take you through my weekend.
Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon, I take my son to the New York's
Speaker 1: Knicks game. Okay, they play the Miami Heat. It's three
Speaker 1: PM and I'm asking Mel, I'm like, do you want
Speaker 1: to go to the AFC Championship game tomorrow in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: You have to understand he loves the Ravens. He watched
Speaker 1: the entire Texans Ravens game. He was a nervous wreck
Speaker 1: the first half, like cried at one point through a
Speaker 1: hissy fit at one point during the first half because
Speaker 1: like what are the Ravens doing? And then when they
Speaker 1: want I've never seen such joy in this child's eyes, Like,
Speaker 1: do you want to go tomorrow? We're going to this
Speaker 1: basketball game. Now you're enjoying this moment. You're at a
Speaker 1: live sporting event. Do you want to go? Because we
Speaker 1: will get on a train and we all stand in
Speaker 1: the rain and it'll be a twelve hour day. But
Speaker 1: I do think there's a significance to being a kid
Speaker 1: and being at one of these amazing, amazing sporting events
Speaker 1: like an AFC Championship game in person. And the fact
Speaker 1: that the Baltimore Ravens have not hosted an AFC championsh
Speaker 1: game since nineteen seventy was like swirling in my brain.
Speaker 1: Mel's gonna be a Ravens fan. He is a Ravens fan,
Speaker 1: his mom is a Ravens fan, his father in law
Speaker 1: is a Ravens fan, his grandfather, my father in law,
Speaker 1: his uncle, the whole thing. As I've mentioned on other podcasts,
Speaker 1: and I think I mentioned here last year last week.
Speaker 1: My father in law, David is hardcore Baltimore sports fan.
Speaker 1: He was in every Ravens home game, I think until
Speaker 1: recent years he's gone to every one of them. He
Speaker 1: travels once a year to go to a road game
Speaker 1: with my brother in law. They're hardcore. Every Baltimore super
Speaker 1: Bowl ever he has been at. That includes the Miami
Speaker 1: you know Joe Namath Guarantee super Bowl three. It includes
Speaker 1: the win over the Colts, win over the Cowboys, it
Speaker 1: includes Ravens Super Bowl victory over the Giants. It includes
Speaker 1: Ravens Super Bowl victory over the forty nine ers in
Speaker 1: New Orleans. He's been to all of them. So they're
Speaker 1: Baltimore people. My son's gonna so I was like, I
Speaker 1: think you should want to go. However, Aaron, he had
Speaker 1: a youth basketball game the next morning. Oh. He loves
Speaker 1: playing for those Gonzaga Bulldogs at the Brooklyn Basketball Academy.
Speaker 1: Seven years old. He scored a basket last week. He's
Speaker 1: feeling good. It is so rare that I am off
Speaker 1: on the weekends, which I was because Fox didn't have
Speaker 1: a pregame show in the early window that I could
Speaker 1: actually attend one of his basketball games on the weekend.
Speaker 1: I've never been able to do it. I went to
Speaker 1: one a couple of weeks ago. It was amazing. These
Speaker 1: games though last like thirty minutes. You know you're in
Speaker 1: your out. The final score is like eight to six.
Speaker 2: It's like a soccer match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mel loves his basketball team, loves his basketat So
Speaker 1: it's this moment it's like, do you want to go
Speaker 1: or do you not want to go? And he looked
Speaker 1: at me and he's like, I don't know, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: do I have to make this decision? My wife is like,
Speaker 1: if it's raining, I think we pull the plug. If
Speaker 1: it looks like it's clear skies, I kind of want
Speaker 1: to go too. I kind of want to be there.
Speaker 1: She's been to all these big games also. So at
Speaker 1: seven am we woke up on Sunday morning, we check
Speaker 1: the weather and it said the rain is passing through
Speaker 1: Baltimore at around eleven am. By three pm, kickoff, no rain,
Speaker 1: and off we went. We go to Penn Station. This
Speaker 1: place is Hummin' Chiefs fans Ravens fans. New York City
Speaker 1: has a good collection of both those fan bases. We
Speaker 1: get on the train, Northeast Regional, going from the lovely
Speaker 1: New York Penn Station New Monahan Hall. We're going down
Speaker 1: there and we're going to Baltimore. Three hour ride. We're
Speaker 1: sitting there. Everyone on the train is hype for football.
Speaker 1: It's a football train. It was so cool. It's a
Speaker 1: great way to prepare for a game. Hours in advance.
Speaker 1: From nine am to noon, it's all just Ravens fans
Speaker 1: and Flacco jerseys and Ogden jerseys and Sugs jerseys. We
Speaker 1: get to the train station, a flood of just purple
Speaker 1: and red, a lot of Chiefs fans, so much respect
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs fans. They travel to this thing too.
Speaker 1: We leave Penn Station. I call an uber to go
Speaker 1: to the stadium because I want to get there early.
Speaker 1: My wife's like, I don't need to be there for
Speaker 1: three hours. We'll go separately. I'll go to my brother's place,
Speaker 1: which is nearby. She takes an uber. I take an over.
Speaker 1: We'll get in the uber. I get my solo uber.
Speaker 1: I'm dressed with, you know, big raincoat on just in case,
Speaker 1: and I've got my phone, my portable phone charger because
Speaker 1: i know I'm not going to be sitting by an outlet,
Speaker 1: and it is traffic wall to wall from the train
Speaker 1: station to the stadium. I say, get me out of
Speaker 1: this uber. I walk about fifteen blocks. Ooh, and it's
Speaker 1: not New York City blocks too, so Baltimore blocks. And
Speaker 1: as you're walking, the anticipation is building build, and no
Speaker 1: one recognizes me. At first, you know, five blocks, I'm
Speaker 1: just a random guy walking. Then ten blocks, it's all
Speaker 1: Ravens fans. It's all Chiefs fans. I get about, you know,
Speaker 1: probably a half mile from the stadium, and suddenly it's
Speaker 1: like Shreger, Schreger. I'm like, yes, okay, I love the recognition.
Speaker 3: You picked against us.
Speaker 1: Ravens fans respectful, but also not so thrilled that they
Speaker 1: know my family is Baltimore. And I still picked the
Speaker 1: Chiefs before this thing. And the walk was electric. I
Speaker 1: was so hyped. We get to the stadium, I do
Speaker 1: a round on the stadium, I walk a lap. Awesome experience.
Speaker 1: I'm with Jason McCarty, the Ravens PR staff cool enough
Speaker 1: to say, you know, well, credentially, if you want to
Speaker 1: sit in the press box, come on in whatever. So
Speaker 1: I get to go there beforehand, I see Jason McCarty,
Speaker 1: who's doing the radio. I see Devin McCarty. We walk
Speaker 1: U Coast on the field. Travis Kelsey's there. I'm talking
Speaker 1: to Travis Kelsey before the game. He was dialed in.
Speaker 1: You saw the thing with Justin Tucker, like he was
Speaker 1: not there to do small talk. He was not there
Speaker 1: for nonsense. Respectful as always, but like dialed in. I
Speaker 1: see Mahomes give him a pound. He's dialed in. I
Speaker 1: talked to some of the chiefs executives there, dialed in Ravenside.
Speaker 1: Jack Harbaugh's there, Jim Harbaugh was there, John Harbaugh, you know,
Speaker 1: dialed in. This felt like a Monsters game because it
Speaker 1: was get to the seats. My son is a nervous wreck.
Speaker 1: I could tell. I've never seen him like this. Like
Speaker 1: he doesn't take tests, he doesn't have homework. Yet this
Speaker 1: is where he's a nervous wreck. He's super you know,
Speaker 1: in his own thoughts about whether this is gonna be
Speaker 1: the day, and I'm like, just dude, no matter what,
Speaker 1: you're here, you're gonna have a story. You got to
Speaker 1: experience it, like just enjoy it. Out comes Michael Phelps, No,
Speaker 1: mel this is a world champion, swimmer. Why is he here? Well,
Speaker 1: he likes the Ravens, Yes, but why is a swimmer here? Yes,
Speaker 1: he's from Baltimore. And he's like he's a big Ravens fan. Yes,
Speaker 1: but is he swimming. No, he's not swimming. It's just
Speaker 1: he likes the Ravens. So he's like, Okay. Ed Reid
Speaker 1: comes out all right. That guy's one of the best
Speaker 1: safeties to ever play, if not the best safety. Ravens
Speaker 1: legend won a Super Bowl awesome. Ray Lewis comes out
Speaker 1: dunt dun so hot, he comes out, does his whole
Speaker 1: ray Lewis dance my son time to day. I'm like
Speaker 1: two Super Bowls, probably the greatest player ever to wear
Speaker 1: the Ravens uniform. To do the toss Chiefs staffer and
Speaker 1: they're like, we're gonna get the Ravens ball. Place is
Speaker 1: fired up, places nuts, Ravens come out three and out.
Speaker 1: Chiefs come out rocking stadium, places going wild, fourth and two,
Speaker 1: first down, third and four, first down, third and five,
Speaker 1: first down, third and three, first down, And they do
Speaker 1: this thing at that Ravens stadium where they where they like,
Speaker 1: they go to the big speel like make some noise
Speaker 1: every third down, or it's like third down, we need
Speaker 1: the decibel meter higher fans, and you're like right, And
Speaker 1: by the fourth or fifth one, I could see these
Speaker 1: fans being like this, Mahomes is pretty good. Touchdown, Place
Speaker 1: is dead. Ravens come back, say Flowers amazing. Touchdown seven
Speaker 1: to seven, Place going bonkers. I look next week, my
Speaker 1: son is in tears. Aaron. I'm like, Melt, this is
Speaker 1: the what what he goes? I missed the fun everyone
Speaker 1: was jumping up and down. I didn't get to see it. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's like so heartbroken, and I'm like, looking at my wife,
Speaker 1: I'm like we should have watched him the couch, like
Speaker 1: this isn't worth it, Like he's not even excited for
Speaker 1: like the good moment. So he was crying after they scored,
Speaker 1: and then sure enough, the Chiefs are just dominant throughout
Speaker 1: the first half. We go to halftime. This is why
Speaker 1: my wife is my wife, and Erica is smart and
Speaker 1: why we give her all the credit in the world.
Speaker 1: We get to halftime, I take Melt to the bathroom
Speaker 1: Forever Long Line. We're in a funk. He's in a funk.
Speaker 1: He had just been crying. The Ravens are losing all
Speaker 1: this stuff. This is before the day Flowers thing. My
Speaker 1: wife disappears for about five minutes. I'm like, where'd she go?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Whatever. We come back to the seat, simplest thing, some
Speaker 1: cotton candy, smiling, sun is shining. Now, sun comes up,
Speaker 1: rain goes away, Ravens are driving, say Flowers, big play,
Speaker 1: taunting penalty. All right, that hurts, but let's go back.
Speaker 1: They get another big play. Dave Flowers about to score,
Speaker 1: punched the ball, loose fumble. That was the game. I
Speaker 1: know it is this one score game. That was the game,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, the next six hours
Speaker 1: are going to suck. I'll tell you this. That was
Speaker 1: a good sport. He was a good sport. I said, look,
Speaker 1: that's football. Just when you think it's your ear, just
Speaker 1: when you put all this time and effort, that can happen.
Speaker 1: Do you see what happened with Mommy's Michigan Wolverines, Because
Speaker 1: my wife's a Michigan over Like, that's one side of it.
Speaker 1: You can go all the way and you can win,
Speaker 1: and it's the best dealing in the world and you
Speaker 1: could be on cloud nine. But there's also this side
Speaker 1: of it. Only one team can advance in every game
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and in this case, if not. The
Speaker 1: Ravens took the train back. He thought it was so
Speaker 1: cool that he was up late. We didn't get back
Speaker 1: until like eleven o'clock. We watched the entire NFC Championship
Speaker 1: game on my phone on NFL Plus. He was into it.
Speaker 1: He got to stay up late, woke up Monday morning,
Speaker 1: was in the best moody at a great weekend. He
Speaker 1: got to go to the game. But some parenting stuff
Speaker 1: right there. It was touch and go for a moment.
Speaker 1: But sometimes a simple bribery or simple pleasure of cotton
Speaker 1: candy can do the trick.
Speaker 2: You don't want to be watching your team lose and
Speaker 2: be hungry. I mean, if you can get something, you
Speaker 2: know that.
Speaker 1: I think that's a not only hungry like the forbidden fruit. Yes, kids, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this kid don't eat much cotton candy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not gonna be at home on the couchwashing
Speaker 2: the game getting cotton candy, I would assume.
Speaker 1: So I might takeaways from that game, I've been saying
Speaker 1: him on Good Morning Football. The defense was so good
Speaker 1: and if anything, we take for granted what Steve Spagnolo's
Speaker 1: defense has done. What I read is they ran six
Speaker 1: different defensive schemes and they rotated those defensive schemes. Lamar
Speaker 1: could not solve it. Todd Munkin abandoned the run game.
Speaker 1: There was only six times in the game that are
Speaker 1: running back carried the ball. The first time Gus Edwards
Speaker 1: went for fifteen yards and they just like abandon it.
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cooke didn't get a touch. He looked pretty good
Speaker 1: in his couple of opportunities last week, and Lamar didn't
Speaker 1: look like Lamar. So the Ravens go back to the
Speaker 1: drawing board and for the Chiefs they go on and
Speaker 1: obviously it's Mahomes and Kelsey and Kelsey had eleven catches
Speaker 1: on eleven targets. That's insane. He also touched the ball
Speaker 1: and a different like a different play, like just amazing.
Speaker 1: But the defense is really really good and that defense
Speaker 1: is what rose above. So to me, they look like
Speaker 1: just one of those old battled war horses that like
Speaker 1: you cannot put down. Those last two wins in Buffalo
Speaker 1: and in Kansas City, said on Good Morning Football, Rudy
Speaker 1: Tom Johonovitch has a great quote, never underestimate the heart
Speaker 1: of a champion. I ain't underestimating the heart of these champions.
Speaker 1: You know who I have winning. I got the Chiefs
Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl. We'll talk about it all next
Speaker 1: week they play the Niners, which had a cool story
Speaker 1: in itself. Which team do you think had a tougher
Speaker 1: pull to swallow on Monday morning? Aaron? Do you think
Speaker 1: the Lions fan who is up seventeen points and has
Speaker 1: multiple opportunities to make it a three score game and
Speaker 1: ops to go for it on fourth down and then
Speaker 1: to seize the slip in between their hands? Or do
Speaker 1: you think it's the Ravens fan that just feels like
Speaker 1: that was such an anomaly compared to the rest of
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 2: I think a Lions fan, I think the pain of
Speaker 2: knowing you were in the lead and for the first half,
Speaker 2: I mean, it looked like a one sided game. It was,
Speaker 2: you know, it was a completely different thing. Whereas the
Speaker 2: Ravens fan, you were catched up the whole time. Even
Speaker 2: that on the Zay Flowers touchdown, that was like not
Speaker 2: a Hail Mary, but that was a miracle play that
Speaker 2: that worked. And there was never a point when I
Speaker 2: felt like the Ravens were in control, whereas with the Lions,
Speaker 2: I thought I thought that was over. I was like,
Speaker 2: what happened to San Francisco? And then here they came back.
Speaker 2: So the Lions feel like they lost it from within
Speaker 2: their grasp and the Ravens just they had a bad day.
Speaker 1: A couple thoughts on that this was an interesting moment
Speaker 1: in time where like for years on parallel paths, the
Speaker 1: PFF guys and the numbers guys and the Twitter people
Speaker 1: who always hearn such who advocate for fourth down being
Speaker 1: aggressive and here's how it's done, have been working. And
Speaker 1: then on the other half has been a silent majority.
Speaker 1: I think of traditional football fans who understand that the
Speaker 1: analytics and the numbers have a major role in the
Speaker 1: game right now, and it has helped the game for
Speaker 1: the better and has helped coaches manage situations in different ways,
Speaker 1: and they've traditionally done but they've been quiet, biting their tongues.
Speaker 1: I think this was impossible to watch as a traditional fan,
Speaker 1: knowing that a three score lead is so hard to
Speaker 1: come back from, but if you give them an opportunity
Speaker 1: to keep on opening the door, they will. In this case,
Speaker 1: I think the thing that's missing in a lot of
Speaker 1: these analytics, and I don't want to take on the
Speaker 1: analytics community, and I don't even call it analytics. I
Speaker 1: want to call it probability. In this case, I think
Speaker 1: one of the things that's missing is the nuance of
Speaker 1: situations such as the fact that, oh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's in San Francisco and that crowd as much as
Speaker 1: Honolulu Blue as you saw that crowd like was completely
Speaker 1: given a second life and then a third life and
Speaker 1: then a fourth life and was in a absolute tizzy
Speaker 1: after the seventeen point comeback. We saw the journey performance
Speaker 1: and then like coming out of commercial, you know, Olsen
Speaker 1: and Burkhart just laid out and they were so beautifully
Speaker 1: attuned to it. They're like, let's not let's not talk,
Speaker 1: Let's just let the crowd noise take the story, Like
Speaker 1: that's a big deal. I also think the know with
Speaker 1: the no haul and like the wherewithal of like, hey,
Speaker 1: these Niners have been in some huge games over the years,
Speaker 1: like don't don't let them hang around, and even last
Speaker 1: week against the Packers like don't let them hang around.
Speaker 1: That makes two straight weeks of Kyle Shanahan, who notoriously
Speaker 1: is known for giving up major leads. In the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter of the Super Bowl, of course twenty eight to three,
Speaker 1: but also in a Super Bowl to the Chiefs, they
Speaker 1: were up ten in the fourth quarter. In the NFC
Speaker 1: Championship game to the Rams, they were up ten in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Here we go back to back weeks
Speaker 1: after Fox shows of graphics saying Kyle Shanahan's oh to
Speaker 1: thirty in the fourth quarter when down five points or more,
Speaker 1: they come back and beat the Packers and in this case,
Speaker 1: come back from a seventeen point deficit at halftime to
Speaker 1: beat a very good Lions team, and the Lions go
Speaker 1: back to the drawing board. But I think the analytics
Speaker 1: community has been kind of feeling itself a little bit.
Speaker 1: Every team has an analytics department, and I think some
Speaker 1: of the old school football guys roll their eyes and
Speaker 1: want of stuff that talk into a locker, but they
Speaker 1: go along with it. What's the conundrum here is that
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell is this old school of football guy as
Speaker 1: there is, and he leaned into the analytics so much
Speaker 1: I don't even call it analytics. I mentioned that because
Speaker 1: like Sean Payton did this, Bill Parcells did this, Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick does this. It's not numbers in the sense that
Speaker 1: it's math wizards. It's there's football guys and football men
Speaker 1: who do it. Also, it's just a different way than
Speaker 1: the traditional Hey, punt the ball away and trust your defense.
Speaker 1: I do feel Lions fans this week though, if they're hurting,
Speaker 1: because as much as we could break down the new,
Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is intricacies and nuances and
Speaker 1: drops by Josh Reynolds and drops by Aman Ross, Saint
Speaker 1: Brown and whatever else. Yeah, it's just we're not going
Speaker 1: to Super Bowl and it ends and it's over. So
Speaker 1: it all came together and we could do percentage points
Speaker 1: all we want. But I say this was sadness for
Speaker 1: Lions fans. But the Niners advance, So it's Chiefs Niners.
Speaker 1: Real quick. On some coaching stuff. As we're recording this,
Speaker 1: all but two jobs are filled. I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: fill Seattle and Washington over the next few days. Three
Speaker 1: names to watch Ben Johnson, Mike McDonald, and then Aaron Glenn,
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator of the Detroit Lions. I think his name
Speaker 1: is being batted around quite a bit. And then of
Speaker 1: course Dan Quinn, who felt like he was the clubhouse
Speaker 1: leader all along for Seattle, but that hasn't happened yet,
Speaker 1: which leads me to think they want to still meet
Speaker 1: with some other guys. One note on Quinn, I don't
Speaker 1: know the numbers. We've had him on the podcast. Everyone
Speaker 1: was surprised that he took his name out of all
Speaker 1: the runnings last year. Like, dan Quinn makes a lot
Speaker 1: of money to be the Cowboys defensive coordinator. He's got
Speaker 1: a really good gig down there. He's really really well respected,
Speaker 1: and his defense continues to perform. The thought with Quinn
Speaker 1: if he doesn't take Seattle, or he isn't offered Seattle,
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, Mike McCarthy has one more year.
Speaker 1: If that doesn't work, is it dan Quin's turn. I
Speaker 1: just know he's well compensated. He's got a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Money's not going to be the factor for dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: He was the coach of the Falcons for many years,
Speaker 1: made multiple contracts, and he has as highly paid as
Speaker 1: any coordinator in the league. So Seattle might feel like
Speaker 1: call him. It might be right, he might really want that.
Speaker 1: If he doesn't get it, that's it's a bit of
Speaker 1: a surprise. But I think as the days go by
Speaker 1: it's less and less dan Quinn's job based on the
Speaker 1: fact that, oh, I don't know, they could have hired
Speaker 1: him already. As I say that, he could be hired
Speaker 1: by noon, and we'll go from there. As you're listening
Speaker 1: to this offensive coordinator stuff around the league, a couple
Speaker 1: of things that keep an eye eye out on. You
Speaker 1: saw Kellen Moore got the Eagles one that's a big deal.
Speaker 1: You saw your former offensive coordinator in Buffalo, Aaron ken
Speaker 1: Dorsey got the Buffalo, got the Cleveland job. Two spots
Speaker 1: that are interesting. New England's is interesting. Does Nick Kyley,
Speaker 1: who was the tight ends coach of the Rams, take
Speaker 1: that job? That sounds like a possibility. Tennessee is fascinating.
Speaker 1: Brian Callahan is the offensive coordinator. There's a guy named
Speaker 1: Nick Holes who I've known for quite some time, who
Speaker 1: coach with the Raiders for years, but also coach with
Speaker 1: the Jaguars the past year with Trevor Lawrence. Really hot
Speaker 1: name Nick. And now you're gonna say it's, well, it's
Speaker 1: just cronyism, but he actually went to high school with
Speaker 1: Brian Callahan. Those guys know each other very well, have
Speaker 1: not coached together in many years, but they knew each
Speaker 1: other very well, and then I believe overlapped in Oakland
Speaker 1: when they were together working with Derek car I think
Speaker 1: he's a name, Eric Studsville another name to mention for
Speaker 1: that position. And then Vegas, which right now no offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: no quarterback. I can't imagine Jimmy's gonna be the guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you say Aidan O'Connell is like
Speaker 1: that feels like Sam Howell to me, like you might
Speaker 1: want to. But they had the thirteenth pick. That's the
Speaker 1: one that I think makes sense for Cliff Kingsbury if
Speaker 1: it goes that way. I've actually spoken to Cliff after
Speaker 1: his Eagles interview. He thought that went pretty well. It
Speaker 1: wasn't sure it was the right fit. They went with
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. I think that was kind of a mutual
Speaker 1: deal where whatever it was, that wasn't going to be
Speaker 1: the place for Cliff this time around. But there's only
Speaker 1: so many seats on the carousel with these offensive coordinator jobs,
Speaker 1: they are being filled up offully quickly. I look to Vegas.
Speaker 1: I think that would be a good fit if Cliff
Speaker 1: can bring his guys with him and they kind of
Speaker 1: work with Antonio Pierce, who's the defensive guy who has
Speaker 1: not been an NFL head coach. Maybe Cliff can be
Speaker 1: kind of that shoulder to lean on. So that's some
Speaker 1: thoughts on the coaching stuff. We'll find out more this week.
Speaker 1: I think those all those spots would likely be filled
Speaker 1: in the next couple of days, but we do have
Speaker 1: to turn the page to Super Bowl, which is not
Speaker 1: this weekend but the following one. And for our guests,
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring in somebody interesting who might have
Speaker 1: a sports business slant to this. And they're saying this
Speaker 1: is the hardest ticket, most expensive ticket super Bowl history.
Speaker 1: So I brought on someone who knows that world very well.
Speaker 1: His name is Brian Baslow. I'll explain who he is
Speaker 1: and we'll get him on after this, all right, For
Speaker 1: this week's guest, I wanted to bring on someone who
Speaker 1: is in the sports business world and the business of
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I thought it was really interesting. We've
Speaker 1: done coaches, we've done gms, we've done owners, we've done
Speaker 1: celebrity fans, we've done the gamut here, but we haven't
Speaker 1: had someone who's got this vantage point on the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And I wanted to bring in Brian Baslow. Brian is
Speaker 1: the CEO of Concierge Live, which is a ticketing company.
Speaker 1: We'll get into the business of it, but before this,
Speaker 1: Brian was the EVP of ticketing at the Brooklyn Nets.
Speaker 1: Ryan's got a real grasp on ticket sales, ticket trends
Speaker 1: and all of that. And Brian, I wanted to welcome
Speaker 1: you on the season with Peter Schreger. What's up, buddy, Peter.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun, no doubt. So as this thing
Speaker 1: was shaking out, I'm watching the AFC Championship game in person,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, so Chiefs are going, which
Speaker 1: is probably more glamorous for the Super Bowl then Baltimore.
Speaker 1: But then you had Lamar, and I'm doing the storylines
Speaker 1: on my head and I'm like, I personally love the
Speaker 1: Lamar storyline, but I guess there's other things with the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: with dynasty and Taylor Swift and all that. And then
Speaker 1: when I see the Niners whin, I'm like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: Detroit's the better story because of Detroit not going, So
Speaker 1: I would imagine those tickets would flow the market, but
Speaker 1: it's a West coast trip, so it's easy. You could
Speaker 1: do it in a day. So I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: you who knows ticketing inside and out and has devoted
Speaker 1: a career to it. I saw a headline saying it's
Speaker 1: the most expensive, hardest to get ticket in Super Bowl history.
Speaker 1: Take it away, Brian, explain why and how it shook
Speaker 1: out that way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Peter, that's a great lead, and this game is
Speaker 3: an absolute monster. I mean, simply put, it is the
Speaker 3: most expensive ticket in the history of the Super Bowl
Speaker 3: so far. And I'm just doing I was doing those
Speaker 3: same machinations as you sort of what's going to drive
Speaker 3: the super Bowl. You'd think with Kansas City there be
Speaker 3: a little bit of a been there, done that fast. Sure,
Speaker 3: been there four times in the last five years. But no, man,
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a confluence of factors. But simply put,
Speaker 3: it's the most expensive ticket the gain in ticket, Peter,
Speaker 3: the least expensive ticket on the first day of sales
Speaker 3: was nine thousand dollars, nine thousand dollars to get in
Speaker 3: the game. I mean the average price right now even
Speaker 3: is around twelve thousand dollars. And there are a couple
Speaker 3: I mean, there are a couple of tickets in excess
Speaker 3: of fifty thousand dollars per ticket.
Speaker 1: Okay, and you think that's all right, Let's start with
Speaker 1: the Taylor Swift factor. Is that the casual fan saying, look,
Speaker 1: I want to go anyway, it's a cheat and if
Speaker 1: I'm ever going to go, it's the year Taylor Swift?
Speaker 1: Or is it the Hey, this Chief thing might be
Speaker 1: might be ending, and this might be the last time,
Speaker 1: and I want to be there when Mahomes gets his
Speaker 1: third and we win second straight. Like, if you're weighing
Speaker 1: out the factors, is it Mahomes and Kelsey and that
Speaker 1: or is it Taylor Swift is in the building and
Speaker 1: it's kind of cool to be there. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: an event that everyone's gonna be watching.
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, Peter, this Taylor Swift effect is real, man.
Speaker 3: I mean we've seen it through the regular season and
Speaker 3: the beginning parts of the playoffs. Tickets are typically probably
Speaker 3: twenty to fifty percent more expensive just because she's gonna
Speaker 3: be in the building. I mean, she's not a good performance,
Speaker 3: she's just there. And I think that is the differentiating
Speaker 3: factor on the Chief side. One of the biggest driving
Speaker 3: factors also is just like San Francisco. That Niner team
Speaker 3: is huge there. Following is amazing. Probably twenty six percent
Speaker 3: of the tickets that are sold right now have been
Speaker 3: from San Francisco. And you see it. You see it
Speaker 3: when you're on the road anytime San Francisco is traveling.
Speaker 3: I mean there's a sea of red. That team travels
Speaker 3: as well as anybody.
Speaker 1: Well, it's also a national fan base, I think in
Speaker 1: the eighties where a lot of these fans that have
Speaker 1: now the money to go buy tickets and travel to
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. They were born and they grew up with
Speaker 1: Montana and young. So now that generation's in their thirties
Speaker 1: and forties and then oh yeah, in between, you've had
Speaker 1: some great runs with Alex Smith and Harbaugh, some great
Speaker 1: run with Kaepernick, and then these last five years have
Speaker 1: been just success. So to finally see those Niners hoist
Speaker 1: of Lombardi first time, I think in twenty nine years
Speaker 1: it'll be or twenty three years, I think that matters.
Speaker 1: But you're right, Niners fans they do that. You know,
Speaker 1: bang bang Niner gang. They are everywhere in Philly. Last
Speaker 1: year at NFCY Championship, there was a sea of red
Speaker 1: and that's Philly fans who do not sell their tickets
Speaker 1: to opposing.
Speaker 3: Fans exactly exactly. Also, most of those fans that were
Speaker 3: in the eighties that grew up with Montana, many of
Speaker 3: them have started tech companies, so they drive the price
Speaker 3: up as well. So but yeah, man, it's huge.
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that? Another thing? It's like, who's spending
Speaker 1: nine thousand dollars for just a general admission, like a
Speaker 1: regular ticket in a stadium, other than someone who's got
Speaker 1: the money to spend it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean the other thing, Peter, that we haven't
Speaker 3: talked about is the Vegas factor. Man. It is a
Speaker 3: it is a real factor. So the Raiders and you'll
Speaker 3: enjoy this. I mean the Raiders. Just in the regular season,
Speaker 3: the average ticket price for a Raiders game is a
Speaker 3: little over one thousand dollars. That's one hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: percent more than the average ticket in the NFL. And
Speaker 3: I don't think it was because of the Raiders, like
Speaker 3: hot you know, play on the field. It is you know,
Speaker 3: particularly road teams. Those fans love to travel to Vegas
Speaker 3: to see their team play. Now both teams, you know,
Speaker 3: and now you have both markets going to and then
Speaker 3: as you know, you know, the super Bowl's never been
Speaker 3: in Vegas. I can't even frankly like fathom the idea
Speaker 3: of Super Bowl weekend in Las Vegas kind of breaks
Speaker 3: my brain thinking about like what it's going to be,
Speaker 3: Like it will probably be good for your sponsor betterhelp,
Speaker 3: Like I like, it's it's gonna be a big weekend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the TV ratings will be through the roof.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be you know, Mega maybe the
Speaker 1: highest traded ever. And again the swift thing is real.
Speaker 1: But also these are the two probably the best teams
Speaker 1: of the last five years, if you want to say it,
Speaker 1: like who gets the furthest in the playoffs? Niners have
Speaker 1: lost multiple NFC you know, playoff games in recent years,
Speaker 1: but of course have been to the super Bowl and
Speaker 1: want to redeem themselves buying a super Bowl ticket Like
Speaker 1: it sounds so naive from me, and it sounds like
Speaker 1: an arrogant media guy who would never have to, you know,
Speaker 1: go in these waters because I'm there with the credential.
Speaker 1: But like, if I wanted to buy a ticket, like,
Speaker 1: how is that done? To the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, the only sort of official way
Speaker 3: is a company called On Location Experiences. I used to
Speaker 3: work there. It's a portfolio company of the NFL and
Speaker 3: then partnership and the owners and endeavor. So that's the
Speaker 3: official way. And then listen, there are lots of different
Speaker 3: you know, sort of secondary markets that that where people
Speaker 3: can source tickets, and you know, there's lots of different ways,
Speaker 3: but the main sort of official way is that company
Speaker 3: on Location Experiences.
Speaker 1: Okay, now, your company, Concierge Live, you're not a ticket broker,
Speaker 1: you are a ticket provider for I love your your
Speaker 1: concept here because we've talked about it. Can you tell
Speaker 1: the listeners what your company does and how you know,
Speaker 1: how you look at that market from a strategic of
Speaker 1: vantage point, but also looking at it from almost like
Speaker 1: a mathematical way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much for asking. So, like our
Speaker 3: core business, we are a software for sports sponsors to
Speaker 3: manage their tickets. We're like a CRM system for sponsors
Speaker 3: to manage their tickets. That is our core business. But
Speaker 3: our clients also say, hey, listen, it's not in our
Speaker 3: regular tickets, but we're looking to go to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Can you help us source these tickets? So that's where
Speaker 3: sort of the interest and keeping an eye on these
Speaker 3: things comes from Yeah.
Speaker 1: So give an example. Say you're you know, you have
Speaker 1: a client and it's like, let's just say it's Morgan
Speaker 1: Stanley or Goldman Sachs and they come to your company
Speaker 1: and they say, we want to go forget the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: we want to go to to Nix versus Heat. Where
Speaker 1: do you go from there?
Speaker 3: So they say, we want to go to Knicks versus Heat,
Speaker 3: and we we ask them different questions as far as
Speaker 3: like where they want to sit, who they're taking, what
Speaker 3: part of the produce. It's not just the ticket all
Speaker 3: the time. Sometimes they need sort of a whole run
Speaker 3: of show. So we'll we'll take that information, we'll go
Speaker 3: source the tickets, we'll give them prices, and then we
Speaker 3: can actually just shepherd them the entire time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So do you feel like this this crowd
Speaker 1: is gonna be a mix of mostly corporate or do
Speaker 1: you think this is the Chiefs fans. They're like, we're
Speaker 1: coming and the Niners fans are coming. I said it
Speaker 1: last week walking around the AFC Championship game. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I love the Super Bowl and it is awesome in
Speaker 1: the building and it is one of my favorite things
Speaker 1: to be at, especially in the opening kickoff and the
Speaker 1: lights go out. I'm like, put this element of looking
Speaker 1: into the crowd and seeing a sea of purple and
Speaker 1: a sea of red, and knowing every single person that's
Speaker 1: here is here because they freaking love their team. It's
Speaker 1: a little different than the super Bowl, which is still
Speaker 1: amazing in its own way, and it's the biggest stage.
Speaker 1: What do you anticipate because these two fan bases are
Speaker 1: very good.
Speaker 3: It's a new listen. That's a great question. And I
Speaker 3: think historically and the super Bowl has gotten a little
Speaker 3: bit of a bad rap of being a corporate scene
Speaker 3: I have personally seen, and I don't know if you agree, Peter.
Speaker 3: I think the last couple of years, fans have really
Speaker 3: stepped up totally and it's been more fan engaged. Being
Speaker 3: in the building has a much better energy than it
Speaker 3: had maybe five or ten years ago. I think these
Speaker 3: teams are gonna show out. I think it's gonna show
Speaker 3: up in a big way. I also think because it's
Speaker 3: a rematch, because both these teams are probably the best
Speaker 3: two teams in the league as predicted by you a
Speaker 3: year in advance, which is also incredible. I think it's
Speaker 3: gonna I think it's gonna be a fan based thing,
Speaker 3: and I think it's gonna be a really exciting crowd.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too. I think the Bengals Rams one
Speaker 1: was interesting because it was in Los Angeles, so I
Speaker 1: assumed would be all Rams fans. That place was flooded
Speaker 1: with orange and black and white, and like Bengals fans
Speaker 1: knew we hadn't been to the super Bowl since nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty nine, like we're coming. This one's a little different,
Speaker 1: and yet I feel like both fan bases will show out.
Speaker 1: Do you have any idea where Swift will be seated
Speaker 1: in that Las Vegas super Bowl?
Speaker 3: That one?
Speaker 1: Not yet?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm likely she'll be in a sweet but
Speaker 3: I'd be happy to sort of follow up with you
Speaker 3: on that one. How does any other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how does that even work? Like? Does she does? CBS?
Speaker 1: Like do they take care of that and say we
Speaker 1: want the best vantage point for when our cameras come
Speaker 1: or is it Travis Kelcey suite? Like I think it's
Speaker 1: interesting tell them about because this is the story I
Speaker 1: heard that the super Bowl is in Los Angeles and
Speaker 1: like all year long, whether it be Kelly Stafford and
Speaker 1: Matthew Safford like some people or maybe the coaches, maybe McVeigh.
Speaker 1: I forget what it was. Those guys in their contracts
Speaker 1: have suites for games, but then once the Super Bowl happens,
Speaker 1: that goes to the league, like because I think it
Speaker 1: was interesting, Like it became a different conversation. Nothing bad.
Speaker 1: I think Kelly Safford was it was very happy to
Speaker 1: be celebrating Super Bowl in a suite. It wasn't an issue.
Speaker 1: But I think that was a unique one in the
Speaker 1: Tampa one was because those were in their buildings. But
Speaker 1: who owns the suites? Because is it the Raiders handle
Speaker 1: it or the league handles it.
Speaker 3: It's a great question. At the top of the pyramid,
Speaker 3: it's the league, so the league will be working all
Speaker 3: that out. Also, I'm the Taylor Swift macker. Have you
Speaker 3: been following this? By the way, the internet is like
Speaker 3: trying to solve the mystery of how to get Taylor
Speaker 3: to the game. She has a show in Japan the beforehand,
Speaker 3: she has a show right after in Australia. The internet
Speaker 3: is trying to solve the mystery of how to get
Speaker 3: her there. There's a one hundred hour.
Speaker 1: Yeah, solving for you a massive private jet. That's how
Speaker 1: there's the internet mystery. Now, in all seriousness, I was
Speaker 1: on Simmons and I was like, do you think she'll
Speaker 1: be there? He's like yes. Then I asked my co host,
Speaker 1: Aaron wan Kaufman. Months ago, we talked about this and
Speaker 1: we kind of came out not realizing the show was
Speaker 1: the night before. I thought it was the night of
Speaker 1: that she had a show. It sounds like she's got
Speaker 1: four nights in a row and the last night ends,
Speaker 1: and then the super Bowl is after that and then
Speaker 1: it's Australia that she can make it all work. But
Speaker 1: if it was the same day, you know, you work
Speaker 1: in ticketing, what kind of disaster would that be for
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift if she just canceled a show in Japan?
Speaker 3: She can't do that, right, Listen, We're in uncharted waters
Speaker 3: at this point. But I think at this point Taylor
Speaker 3: Swift can do sort of whatever whatever she wants to do.
Speaker 3: And I'm feeling, come hell or high water, she'd be
Speaker 3: at the.
Speaker 1: Game and get up here on the mic, because I
Speaker 1: think we had we had the debate and we said
Speaker 1: what she could do is if she was to cancel,
Speaker 1: it's all, what if sounds like she's going to be there.
Speaker 1: If she canceled, she can give back like two nights
Speaker 1: and have two more nights later on for all the
Speaker 1: people who she canceled on. Does that sound like a
Speaker 1: nice compromise in the ticketing world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think if she rescheduled that show
Speaker 2: and added an additional date, more people get to see her.
Speaker 2: I think fans would be in general very happy with that.
Speaker 1: Brian, your thoughts.
Speaker 3: You're offering a two for one tailor. Hey, sorry, mister,
Speaker 3: now you can go to two shows.
Speaker 1: That's a nice compensation, right, That's kind of nice.
Speaker 3: Man. I like what you're doing here is the hell
Speaker 3: of a business plan.
Speaker 1: That's what That's what I would do, all right? So
Speaker 1: super Bowl big picture, because you do all sporting events,
Speaker 1: is that the hardest ticket to get in sports? Or
Speaker 1: am I often it's like some random tennis match or something.
Speaker 3: No, you're hunter, right, So super Bowl typically has been
Speaker 3: the most expensive by a factor of a lot. The
Speaker 3: one thing kind of creeping up on it has been
Speaker 3: F one. F one has been like a craze in America.
Speaker 3: Two years ago. The one in Miami just just really
Speaker 3: set some records but super Bowl is in a category
Speaker 3: it's all the.
Speaker 1: Time, and that's always been the case, and since you've
Speaker 1: been doing this professionally, or is it like is that
Speaker 1: the last decade where super Bowl just took on a
Speaker 1: different demand to be there.
Speaker 3: It's it's always been the case, but the different like
Speaker 3: the factor at which it's the highest, and just sort
Speaker 3: of the professionalization of on both sides of it, the
Speaker 3: supply side and the demand side. Super Bowl is the biggest,
Speaker 3: but it gets more and more and more expensive and
Speaker 3: the market gets more more efficient every single year, even
Speaker 3: last year. I thought so last year with Philly cuming
Speaker 3: that's a huge market, again, very wealthy market, a much
Speaker 3: bigger city than San Francisco. That was a monster game.
Speaker 3: And this is Peter, this is double double the initial.
Speaker 1: Pres I think you hit it with the location. I
Speaker 1: think Vegas brings a different glamor and glitz and excitement
Speaker 1: level than perhaps Arizona, which has had many Super Bowls
Speaker 1: and is a bit sleepy. If you will, if you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm coming with my boys, I'm already like Vegas. I
Speaker 1: feel like already had this amazing aura around it for
Speaker 1: a celebration and a party and now you add the
Speaker 1: biggest game, and I keep on mentioning swift. I think
Speaker 1: it's real.
Speaker 3: It is real. I mean it's like statistic really real
Speaker 3: that Uh, it's it's just gonna be It's gonna be
Speaker 3: a huge weekend.
Speaker 1: Okay. And before we let you go, my last My
Speaker 1: last thing is when you go to the super Bowl
Speaker 1: and it's the average fans buying the ticket, what else
Speaker 1: do you get in that if you just get a
Speaker 1: super Bowl ticket, is it just access to the game,
Speaker 1: or are there ways that you can also in that
Speaker 1: journey you package it with. I'm gonna get to go
Speaker 1: to an exclusive party, I'm gonna see t Paine perform.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna end up seeing Zach Bryan perform. Like I
Speaker 1: know the NFL has on location and they have events,
Speaker 1: but is it a la carte? How is that all handled?
Speaker 1: If I'm Johnny Niners fan and screw it, I just
Speaker 1: hit the lottery, or I just had a really good
Speaker 1: year financially, I'm taking my kids to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Is it just we got the game, we gotta find
Speaker 1: our own hotel, or like, how's it all done?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question. I mean, on location experiences again,
Speaker 3: they do tickets, hotels, they sponsored their own events.
Speaker 1: Then that's called on location experiences if you're looking like
Speaker 1: that's what that company is called, correct.
Speaker 3: So they specifically have it and they have their own
Speaker 3: proprietary pregame event. But there are every hospitality vendor in
Speaker 3: the world has some pop up going on that weekend. Also,
Speaker 3: as you know, there are some of the best parties
Speaker 3: throughout that weekend that Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night
Speaker 3: Sports Illustrated as a party fanatics and Michael Rubin has
Speaker 3: a secret VIP party that everybody tries to get into.
Speaker 3: There's some pretty fun events that weekend.
Speaker 1: I went to the Michael Ruben party last year. Were
Speaker 1: you there, Brian?
Speaker 3: I was not. I'm hoping this podcast will help me
Speaker 3: in the go forward.
Speaker 1: I went there last year. It was in Arizona. It
Speaker 1: was really fun. I have never even thought to be
Speaker 1: invited to the July fourth thing. That's not my world.
Speaker 1: They don't want the disgusting me coming in there with
Speaker 1: my stained white T shirt and old navy white pants.
Speaker 1: But I did go to the Super Bowl and I
Speaker 1: was happy enough to go. And I will tell you, uh,
Speaker 1: I saw Bryce Young talked to him for a while,
Speaker 1: saw Michael Parsons talk to him for a while, and
Speaker 1: then I saw at that party David Tepper, Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: Mark Davis, Bob Kraft like that. That party is a
Speaker 1: party to be at, and yet I think it's nearly
Speaker 1: impossible to get in unless you know someone who knows
Speaker 1: someone who knows someone who. In last year's case, I did.
Speaker 3: Listen, you're with someone I know. Listen, you know next time,
Speaker 3: go for go for a plus one.
Speaker 1: I'm a bill, you could come, We could do it.
Speaker 1: We could do it, all right, super Bowl. That's in, Brian,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it real quick. Tell us about your company,
Speaker 1: where we can find it, and if there's a website
Speaker 1: we can we can use to use your services.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Contiers Live, contierslive dot com. Any sports sponsors, please
Speaker 3: reach out. We'd love to help you.
Speaker 1: Okay, when you say sports sponsors, just real quick, what
Speaker 1: does that mean? Because I'm I'm thinking of like, Okay,
Speaker 1: Doritos spawned, there's a you know, a Super Bowl party.
Speaker 1: But when you say sports sponsors for tickets, what's that mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, it just mean usually when you're a sponsor,
Speaker 3: when you're sponsor of a league, or a team or
Speaker 3: a venue. With those sponsorship come a lot of tickets.
Speaker 3: And that's where our company comes in when you when
Speaker 3: you need to manage those tickets on a day to
Speaker 3: day basis. We're sort of the CRM system for you
Speaker 3: to manage all those tickets.
Speaker 1: Got it? And it's a software that I can log
Speaker 1: in and not have to use a middleman. I could
Speaker 1: just kind of go in and see and it could
Speaker 1: be like, all right, well you could give these tickets
Speaker 1: to these people, and this is how we do that.
Speaker 1: We divvy it up amongst employees, whatever else.
Speaker 3: Totally. If you work for Chase Bank and you're an
Speaker 3: employee and you're saying, hey, how do I accest the
Speaker 3: company tickets, we're the portal for you to be.
Speaker 1: Able to do that's great. I love it. Smart. If
Speaker 1: the NFL has free tickets line around you, let me know.
Speaker 1: I'd love to hit that part. Maybe I could. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're a client, but maybe I can
Speaker 1: help you make that introduction as well. All right, Brian Baslow,
Speaker 1: awesome stuff. Thank you. The hottest ticket of all time?
Speaker 1: It sounds like the Super Bowl fifty eight in Las Vegas. Dude,
Speaker 1: I appreciate your time.
Speaker 3: Thanks so much.
Speaker 1: Being that was pretty interesting. I knew it would be.
Speaker 1: I always I also thought for some reason, like that
Speaker 1: the Detroit factor would be overriding as far as ticket
Speaker 1: sales go, that every single person who's ever rooted for
Speaker 1: the Lions would find a way nine thousand dollars, fifteen
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, like my mortgage, my house would put it
Speaker 1: on sale, like, so I can go. But I guess
Speaker 1: San Francisco. He's right, it's a. It's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's a combination for those fans of like, yes, they
Speaker 1: might have some tech money there, but also we've been
Speaker 1: knocking on the door for so long, and it's in Vegas.
Speaker 1: It's a short flight. You're not spending on the flight.
Speaker 1: You could even come in the day of and do
Speaker 1: one night, or even fly in day of and maybe
Speaker 1: get a flight out back to San Francisco. Aaron, were
Speaker 1: you surprised that this is the hottest ticket in the
Speaker 1: history of the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. I mean, I think, like you said, two
Speaker 2: dynasties that have both been very good the last five years,
Speaker 2: So you have of as cynical as this is, you
Speaker 2: have like true lifelong fans. And then you also have
Speaker 2: people who maybe just got into the NFL in the
Speaker 2: past five years, have loved Mahomes the whole time, and
Speaker 2: they're like all on board. And then there's Taylor Swift,
Speaker 2: and then it's Vegas. I think there's it's a perfect
Speaker 2: storm of everything going right.
Speaker 1: The Taylor Swift thing is interesting. So I have a friend,
Speaker 1: Aaron Luber, who's been on this show many times, and
Speaker 1: he said his wife has never watched down a football,
Speaker 1: his daughter never watched down a football, and they're upsessed
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs because of Taylor Swift. And I think
Speaker 1: that sounds very simple, like football man's wife is now
Speaker 1: into it. It sounds almost cliche, but they really root for
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. They're on this ride. I don't think they're alone.
Speaker 1: But how does that translate to wanting to be at
Speaker 1: the game because she's there, you're not gonna guarantee yourself
Speaker 1: an interaction. I'm surprised that her being at the game
Speaker 1: has played a role into ticket sales viewership.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. That's a great question because
Speaker 2: he said he.
Speaker 1: Said twenty percent that the thy percent higher in the
Speaker 1: games that she's at. Is it just the idea of
Speaker 1: being around a celebrity like that, she's in the building.
Speaker 2: I'm in the building, I guess, and like you're there
Speaker 2: when she's kind of there as a casual real person
Speaker 2: because she's just there watching Travis play. She's not there performing.
Speaker 2: It's not like I don't know. I don't understand that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: You and I have talked about Taylor Swift on this
Speaker 2: show more times than anyone would have expected. I think
Speaker 2: twelve part of the story it.
Speaker 1: Is, if you were to tell me the story of
Speaker 1: this NFL season, I'm coming to a blank when I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think about, like we could talk about Lamar
Speaker 1: and the amazing seasons that the Browns and Lions had
Speaker 1: from out of nowhere and what Demko Ryans did, but
Speaker 1: you better believe it's been this Chiefs team. And then
Speaker 1: how this Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey deal has taken pop
Speaker 1: culture by storm too.
Speaker 2: I have a lukewarm take that I haven't voiced at all.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm in the mood for that
Speaker 1: this week go.
Speaker 2: On, did does the Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey relationship overshadow
Speaker 2: that Kelsey just had an incredible game it was his
Speaker 2: best game any thing.
Speaker 1: If anything, it puts more of a spotlight. He eleven
Speaker 1: catches on eleven targets. He was amazing. And then afterwards
Speaker 1: kind of sweet guy who has a new girlfriend are
Speaker 1: embracing and kissing and not scared to show their affection,
Speaker 1: and she says on the mic, up, I'm so proud
Speaker 1: of you. You don't even know, like it's hard to
Speaker 1: be cynic man.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. So, as I mentioned to you off Mike,
Speaker 1: I thought we'd wrap the podcast with a little something. Okay,
Speaker 1: I did a segment on Good Morning Football. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: bring it back. It's gonna be recycling content, if that's okay.
Speaker 1: The segment was five media ideas that I have for
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick for next season. And it looks like he's
Speaker 1: not gonna be a head coach. He could still be
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator somewhere. I can still coach across somewhere.
Speaker 1: I can still coach college. He could be an executive somewhere.
Speaker 1: That's all possible if he goes into meeting. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think the standard ideas are he'll be in a booth,
Speaker 1: he'll be in a studio show, he'll have a podcast,
Speaker 1: I listed five ideas. I'm gonna bounce him off with you, Aaron,
Speaker 1: and you tell me your thoughts Number five. One of
Speaker 1: the greatest clips of Bill Belichick is when Randy Moss
Speaker 1: comes in in a twenty eleven documentary that he did
Speaker 1: for NFL Films where they were tracking the twenty eleven Patriots,
Speaker 1: and Randy Moss comes in and he just gives Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick the heads up, we're having a Halloween party tonight.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be had a roller skating rink. We'd love
Speaker 1: for you to come, you know, bring Linda, who is
Speaker 1: his girlfriend at the time, Like, we'd love for you
Speaker 1: to but we're just giving your heads up. We're having
Speaker 1: a party. I don't want you to be surprised by it.
Speaker 1: And then the next clip is Bill Belichick dresses a
Speaker 1: pirate doing laps in roller skates and everyone loving it,
Speaker 1: and the relationship between Belichick and Moss is real. I
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever told this story, but
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Super Bowl, which happened to be Patriots versus Eagles,
Speaker 1: I think yeah, Patriots Minnesota super Bowl, Randy Moss had
Speaker 1: a birthday party. I want to say this was fortieth
Speaker 1: day party. I had worked with Randy at Fox. We
Speaker 1: had a really strong relationship with the time. We're still friendly.
Speaker 1: I still text with him, but this was like we
Speaker 1: would talk often we worked together, and Randy had just
Speaker 1: started at ESPN, and he invited me to his fortieth
Speaker 1: birthday party and Gary Owen did the comedy and performed
Speaker 1: that like Gary Allan, I'm if you're a fan or
Speaker 1: if you know his work, and I get there and
Speaker 1: I was amazed to see the week of the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: I think it was the Thursday night. Bill Belichick was
Speaker 1: there to celebrate Randy Moss's birthday party, and so was
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan, and so were so many other teammates of
Speaker 1: Randy's and it was just a really cool room. But
Speaker 1: I think my idea is pairing Randy Moss's passion and
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's knowledge. And I think Belichick's also a man
Speaker 1: of the sea, obviously his Navy background and his love
Speaker 1: for Nantucket a phishing show. Bill Belichick and Randy Moss,
Speaker 1: your thoughts, I love it.
Speaker 2: I can just I mean, everyone always talks about the
Speaker 2: viral clip of Bill, you know, in a press conference
Speaker 2: after the game. He's never happy and then someone asks
Speaker 2: him about a long snapper, and he goes on twelve minutes.
Speaker 2: I can just imagine that two of them sitting on
Speaker 2: the dock or the back of the boat a port
Speaker 2: or starboard, whatever the back is, and Bill taught like
Speaker 2: Randy calling out some fish that they're trying to catch.
Speaker 2: And Bill goes on a fifteen minute soliloquy about how
Speaker 2: much he loves this one particular, the skip back tuna,
Speaker 2: because it's, you know, like the way that they travel
Speaker 2: in school. I would love it a plus.
Speaker 1: All in amazing. I love it that it would be
Speaker 1: those two guys who have been so guarded from the
Speaker 1: media for so many years. Just Uncut. Number four a
Speaker 1: Patriots focused podcast with noted Patriots fan Bill Burr.
Speaker 2: O have have Burr and Belichick done? They corected it all.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I'm sure Burr is known by Belichick.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah uh.
Speaker 1: Burr obviously one of the greatest comedians, one of the
Speaker 1: most candid and unfiltered people in our world. Also huge
Speaker 1: Patriots fan, huge Patriot. It's fan. Interesting one. Number three
Speaker 1: The Coach Cast with Nick Saban and Pete Carroll, So
Speaker 1: you know, the Manning Cast, and I say, the Manning
Speaker 1: cast works because you get the football insights, but you
Speaker 1: also get the crosstalk and the conversation. Nick Saban currently
Speaker 1: not employed, Pete Carroll currently not employed. I don't know
Speaker 1: what they plan on doing in the future, Saban. I'm
Speaker 1: sure we'll have some advisory role with Alabama. Carol can
Speaker 1: have the same with Seattle. Until then, every let's pick
Speaker 1: a how about Amazon picks them up for every Thursday night,
Speaker 1: these guys break down the game on a second alternative
Speaker 1: telecast your thoughts.
Speaker 2: Oh, I would love that because, I mean one of
Speaker 2: our favorite things about your coworker, Greg Olsen, like Greg
Speaker 2: when he's sitting there in the booth breaking down the
Speaker 2: plays as they're happening and predicting what's going to happen
Speaker 2: and like unfolding each team strategy in real time. Imagine
Speaker 2: having three of the best coaches doing that at the
Speaker 2: same time. I mean, that would be great.
Speaker 1: I'd love that. And I can't imagine Belichick busting chops
Speaker 1: with Carol Saban, Like that'd be fun. I think he
Speaker 1: respects both those guys. Yes, all right. Number two A
Speaker 1: show called Eighties and Nineties Giant Stuff, and it's with
Speaker 1: Bill Parcells, Phil Sims, and Lawrence Taylor and they just
Speaker 1: go back and watch all Giants games and talk about them.
Speaker 2: So this is like, uh, like every every sitcom has
Speaker 2: a rewatch podcast, and this would be Bill hosting it.
Speaker 1: Scrubs going back watching episode.
Speaker 2: And they bring in a guest each week who you know,
Speaker 2: Like this week it's the it's you know, the wide Receiver,
Speaker 2: and this week it's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's the Office ladies, it's Jenni Fisher
Speaker 1: or not jennif Fisher, Angela, Yes, Angela Kinsei who play
Speaker 1: Pam and Angela from the Office. They go through every episode. Now,
Speaker 1: I personally got sucked into the Sopranos one with our
Speaker 1: guy Sharipa and Michael Imperioli when they watched every single
Speaker 1: episode and did a recap. But to your point, they
Speaker 1: brought on again, it'd be like here's the guy who
Speaker 1: played cousin Veto and like he's gonna talk about it,
Speaker 1: and here's the guy who played Angelo. So in this case,
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties Giants stuff. I think the Giants have
Speaker 1: a huge fan base. Jason English are our buddy from
Speaker 1: my iHeart is in here, and I know he is
Speaker 1: a hardcore Giants head of this era. You're in for it,
Speaker 1: all right. The number one though that I thought would
Speaker 1: be fun. Number one idea drum Rope co host the
Speaker 1: NFL Red Zone with Scott Hanson every Sunday.
Speaker 2: What two different levels of acargy? Which would be Which
Speaker 2: would be great?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: The I Also I think back to my favorite I
Speaker 2: don't know favorite is the right word, but one of
Speaker 2: the most memorable moments from Red Zone this year, of course,
Speaker 2: is the fire alarms going off. Can you imagine Scott
Speaker 2: and Bill, Like I can just see Bill totally unfazed.
Speaker 1: Scott, Yeah, Scott, don't panic. That's why that's the fire department.
Speaker 1: They'll do their job. That's what they're there for. Also,
Speaker 1: like in the moment there's five games going on, fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: you hear Belichick in the corner and be like, oh, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: what is Belichick into it? And he's watching some random
Speaker 1: Bear Saints game that the game's like a twenty point
Speaker 1: game and it's not significant, but it's like a punt.
Speaker 2: Also, I would love, you know, Scott is there. Witching
Speaker 2: Hour is Scott's thing. He's so excited for that one moment.
Speaker 2: Maybe Bill gets a moment in the second slate of
Speaker 2: games when his dog Nike shows up and just like
Speaker 2: sits on his lap for a couple of plays and
Speaker 2: then leaves like that would be good too.
Speaker 1: Totally. Those are my five ideas. If you have any others,
Speaker 1: please send him our way. Let's do the Uber sponsorship
Speaker 1: at the end here? Is that still a sponsor?
Speaker 3: Aaron?
Speaker 1: We're still with those guys?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I'm we got to start thinking about
Speaker 2: what food. I actually already made some grocery orders for
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, so I have, you know, big bags of
Speaker 2: chips to eat during the game.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be the first Super Bowl in many
Speaker 1: years that I will not be attending, and maybe I
Speaker 1: should use some Uber eats. Is that the Uber eats
Speaker 1: is because it's almost almost anything that we can get.
Speaker 1: Maybe they can make me some guacamole and some chips
Speaker 1: and we'll go down there.
Speaker 2: What about cotton candy? You think Uber eats could get
Speaker 2: you some? Can'ty?
Speaker 1: Do you think they could? They get almost almost anything
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Speaker 1: This week, I want to shout out brock Purty as
Speaker 1: our individual who purely delivered in the biggest moments. Party
Speaker 1: down seventeen. I think he went five of seventeen with
Speaker 1: a pick in the first half. And I said it
Speaker 1: on air on Good Morning Football. I had friends in
Speaker 1: my mentions in a text chain, I'm on saying time
Speaker 1: to go to Donald What are we doing here? Like
Speaker 1: even now they still don't believe in Party, even all
Speaker 1: of you, that's still gonna be Let's go to Donald. Well,
Speaker 1: Party turned it around, had some amazing drives, had some
Speaker 1: key passes to Juwan Jennings, and some key plays to Deebo,
Speaker 1: Samuel and Kittle, and of course the little toe tap
Speaker 1: from us Check which was so impressive and so good.
Speaker 1: Brock Purty delivered results. And now it just this his
Speaker 1: second year in the NFL, he will be playing in
Speaker 1: a super Bowl against the greatest quarterback of his generation.
Speaker 1: I say that without maybe saying possibly or anything contingent
Speaker 1: on anything. It is Brady and it is now Mahomes.
Speaker 1: When you're talking about the last twenty years of NFL
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and the guys who win the games, brock perty
Speaker 1: is going to try to dethrow mahomes in this one.
Speaker 1: In about ten days from now, I was delivering results
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Speaker 1: thank you for joining me. Jason, thank you for joining me.
Speaker 1: Enjoy the next two days. I'm gonna go down to Mobile,
Speaker 1: Alabama for Friday afternoon. I'm going to check out the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Oo.
Speaker 2: Any players you're particularly excited to see, yeah, all of them.
Speaker 1: I haven't done the research yet. I've got to dig in.
Speaker 1: Our NFL networks doing a good job. They got all
Speaker 1: the guys down there. I'll start digging in, but I
Speaker 1: like to get my feet on the ground a little bit,
Speaker 1: touch the grass if you will, and I'll have some
Speaker 1: stories I'm sure, hopefully not any travel stories. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: connecting through Atlanta and a little puddle jumper to a
Speaker 1: mobile all should go well with that. Thanks for listening, everybody.
Speaker 1: Thank you to all the folks in LA who help
Speaker 1: with us together as well as of course Aaron, Jason
Speaker 1: and all the producers from the iHeart Side. Please keep
Speaker 1: on listening. Tell your friends we will have some great
Speaker 1: guests over the off season. Of course, but it's the
Speaker 1: biggest week at sports. Next week we'll definitely have a
Speaker 1: good episode till then, enjoy the super Bowl bye week.
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