Speaker 1: As a late fifteen to ten touchdown Sacers.
Speaker 2: What a day. Welcome into a brand new episode of
Speaker 2: Chargers Weekly, as always, joined by Matt Mooney Smith, Taping
Speaker 2: this late Thursday night, hours after the Jim Harball introductory
Speaker 2: press conference. Buddy, it was a landmark day in Chargers history,
Speaker 2: specifically here in Los Angeles. With a personality as large
Speaker 2: as Jim Harball, you had to go big. The Charge
Speaker 2: went big at YouTube Theater and what a spectacle it
Speaker 2: was for an hour plus and I know you spoke
Speaker 2: to Jim on fetch you some money afterwards.
Speaker 1: We did, yeah, which is why we're doing this. Late
Speaker 1: had a three to seven radio show and Coach was
Speaker 1: kind enough to give us about fifteen minutes in the
Speaker 1: three o'clock hour, and he was great. And we used
Speaker 1: to talk to Coach quite regularly when he was at Stanford.
Speaker 1: He would come on a lot recognized and this is
Speaker 1: someone who understands availability and opportunity. And you know, we
Speaker 1: have a pretty popular show here in southern California, and
Speaker 1: he used us as a recruiting tool and we used,
Speaker 1: you know, him as an entertaining guest. And so thankfully
Speaker 1: it kind of I think remembered that and so to
Speaker 1: remember talking to us, We had a great time. And
Speaker 1: that's I think you saw that in the presser, you
Speaker 1: know that when John Spanos got up there and said
Speaker 1: he remembered a conversation they had twenty some years ago
Speaker 1: when coaches at San Diego, and I think that's there
Speaker 1: is something to that. There is something to recognizing, and
Speaker 1: we've talked about this, recognizing that there are so many
Speaker 1: opportunities around you and somebody's title or station in life
Speaker 1: may not represent the opportunity that they present to helping
Speaker 1: you better yourself or your situation. And certainly coach seems
Speaker 1: to be somebody that is very cognizant of that. Hence
Speaker 1: his recollection of John simply telling him that he thought
Speaker 1: he ran great practice and that that meant a lot
Speaker 1: to him, because nobody in the NFL or in the
Speaker 1: pro you know, circles, had ever said that to him.
Speaker 1: So I think that just one little moment spoke to
Speaker 1: kind of what, you know, how he's wired and why
Speaker 1: why players play so hard for him, and that's really
Speaker 1: what separates him from so many other coaches.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, money walking into that YouTube theater this morning,
Speaker 2: seeing the harboisms everywhere. It just felt like just something
Speaker 2: completely new and different and exciting for the Chargers organization
Speaker 2: and the fans. And there's so many moments throughout the
Speaker 2: press conference. I'm sure we can put our heads together
Speaker 2: and knock most of them out.
Speaker 1: There was just just.
Speaker 2: Funny, funny things, and I think things that get you
Speaker 2: hyped up. I especially thought that the Dean span Us,
Speaker 2: the owner Dean span Us, right from the beginning of
Speaker 2: explaining the process and why Jim Harbaugh is here today
Speaker 2: and how happy he is for Chargers fans and basically
Speaker 2: telling Jim, whatever you need, whatever resource that will require
Speaker 2: us to win, We're going to provide you. And you
Speaker 2: can tell that Jim has a personal connection with the Chargers.
Speaker 2: He mentioned all the stops that he's had and there's
Speaker 2: always been a personal connection. He referenced the Spanos. Obviously
Speaker 2: playing for the San Diego Chargers met a great deal
Speaker 2: to him, and it just seems like the stars aligned,
Speaker 2: and just throughout that hour press conference that you could
Speaker 2: feel his energy and he knows that he's in the
Speaker 2: right place for him to do what he ultimately wants
Speaker 2: to do, and that's bringing Lombardi to Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Look, the Chargers two most disappointing seasons in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: have produced superstars, you know, the one pretty justin Herbert
Speaker 1: with the sixth overall pick, and this five and twelve
Speaker 1: season produced you know, Jim Harbaugh, and you know a
Speaker 1: lot of times that's That's the thing about the NFL
Speaker 1: is sometimes you have to take your lunths, you have
Speaker 1: to fail in order to catch a break and turn
Speaker 1: things around. And I you know, I don't say I'm
Speaker 1: happy that Brandon Staley failed. You know, we would have
Speaker 1: all have liked to have had a successful season. The
Speaker 1: amount of money that the Spanos has spent, the amount
Speaker 1: of effort that the players put into it, oh much rather,
Speaker 1: you know, been talking about a playoff run and here
Speaker 1: we are, you know, maybe making a run at Super
Speaker 1: Bowl in Las Vegas. But the in terms of a
Speaker 1: long term solution you said it, it's like I've been
Speaker 1: I've been in this market doing radio since nineteen ninety four,
Speaker 1: and it's the most impressive press conference I've ever seen
Speaker 1: by a coach. There. There have been bigger you know,
Speaker 1: when when Shaq was was signed by Jerry, when Jerry
Speaker 1: West and Shack you know, took to the to the dais.
Speaker 1: That was pretty incredible because Jerry West is simply the
Speaker 1: greatest executive in the history of professional sports. And you know,
Speaker 1: Shaq was fun loving, you know, was the best player
Speaker 1: in basketball at the time, and I just remember how
Speaker 1: special that was. But for just a coach, you know,
Speaker 1: the Phil Jackson one was pretty impressive in ninety eight
Speaker 1: or in ninety nine, I believe it was the first
Speaker 1: time he was here. The second time was just marred
Speaker 1: with a lot of you know, you wrote this book
Speaker 1: and you trashed Kobe. There was a lot of that,
Speaker 1: and it just kind of gave it a little bit
Speaker 1: of an eg of tone. But I kind of set
Speaker 1: all that up with Jim Harba is a superstar. He
Speaker 1: is a coaching superstar. He is in the conversation. I
Speaker 1: know the championships don't number the same, But when Joe
Speaker 1: Tory was brought in by the Dodgers, when Phil Jackson
Speaker 1: was brought in by the Lakers, people didn't want Pete Carroll.
Speaker 1: It was panned as a higher When he was first
Speaker 1: high at USC, chip Kelly had already had incredible failures
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia and San Francisco. When he was brought to UCLA.
Speaker 1: So here is someone coming off a national championship who
Speaker 1: had wanted every stop, who, like you said, Chris has
Speaker 1: the ability to have these sayings, these harbiisms plastered all
Speaker 1: over the theater and carries weight and gravity when he
Speaker 1: walks into a room. And I thought it could not
Speaker 1: have gone any better. There was such a great balance
Speaker 1: of storytelling, of enthusiasm and inspiration, self deprecation, humility now
Speaker 1: you know, relatables, acknowledging his family and how important they've
Speaker 1: been through this whole process. There's just so much to
Speaker 1: it that really, I think almost anyone could connect with
Speaker 1: and feel really good about going forward, like, Wow, we're
Speaker 1: hitching our wagon to this, this is this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a fun ride.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the brand, right, He's the brand, and everybody's
Speaker 2: getting behind him. And it's not about just the quarterback
Speaker 2: or the star edge rusher or defensive player. It's about
Speaker 2: the team. And he stressed team, team, team, and you know, Buddy,
Speaker 2: I think one of my favorite parts was the beginning
Speaker 2: when him and Jim Hill were calling each other's legend
Speaker 2: for like six to ten seconds. It was hilarious, and
Speaker 2: that just kind of set the tone for what Jim
Speaker 2: Harball is going to provide to a city and a
Speaker 2: fan base. Like I swear, I felt like today was
Speaker 2: a game day, Like it was a one pm kickoff,
Speaker 2: but the kickoff was the Jim Harball press conference. Like
Speaker 2: fans were treating today like a game day, And I
Speaker 2: just I think it's so cool to see just kind
Speaker 2: of what this organization and what this fan base has
Speaker 2: has kind of morphed into and where this team is
Speaker 2: going under this head coach. Now, you know, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of answers that we didn't get today because there's
Speaker 2: staff and logistics and different things that are just going
Speaker 2: to have to sort themselves out over the next month.
Speaker 2: You know, you always kind of look for tells and
Speaker 2: things that you know, maybe you can kind of read
Speaker 2: between the lines. I'm like, how many players is he
Speaker 2: gonna mention on this current roster? Obviously? Justin he mentioned
Speaker 2: Derwin and Keenan. Last Sunday he mentioned him again. He
Speaker 2: mentioned Rashaun Slater. I think he said he met Trey
Speaker 2: Pipkins and his dad in the airport, which was cool,
Speaker 2: So like that those are the only players that I
Speaker 2: think that he mentioned. But he said he contacted everybody
Speaker 2: on the team or everybody that's probably expected to be
Speaker 2: on the team. So now here comes the staff questions.
Speaker 2: And Joe Rtiz, who I got to meet briefly, an
Speaker 2: awesome guy by all indications, and just the working relationship
Speaker 2: that he and Jim are going to have. Another one
Speaker 2: of my favorite sayings was just like, hey, during the
Speaker 2: off season, I'm Robin, Joe's batman, and then we're gonna
Speaker 2: flips what we talked about during the season. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be batman, He's gonna be Robin. And it seems like
Speaker 2: that's how it's gonna be. Uh, and it seems like
Speaker 2: that marriage is gonna work really really well when you
Speaker 2: consider the type of players that Ortiz has scouted based
Speaker 2: on what the Ravens do. And Uh, it's just it's
Speaker 2: another piece to this puzzle. We'll hear more from Joe
Speaker 2: on Tuesday, but today was Jim's day.
Speaker 1: Look, there's I don't know how much you want to
Speaker 1: take away. It's the one thing I did appreciate is
Speaker 1: it did seem like it was a little more stream
Speaker 1: of consciousness. It wasn't. It definitely was produced. It wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't I've got I've got my goals, and I've
Speaker 1: got my checklists, and you know it's it's look, it's
Speaker 1: the Tony Robbins school of motivational speaking that when you
Speaker 1: say someone's name back to them, they feel more important.
Speaker 1: And we see that regularly, and I find it to
Speaker 1: be a bit annoying and patronizing in the case it
Speaker 1: like it really sort of you know, it warmed your
Speaker 1: heart a little bit when he did it with Plashki
Speaker 1: and Jim, because they're the only two that deserve that.
Speaker 1: You know, they're the ones that have been here for
Speaker 1: forty years. And for someone who has spent his entire
Speaker 1: coaching career save with his alma mater, you're talking about
Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders, San Diego Torrero's, Stanford Cardinals, San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers and now Los Angeles Chargers. Played for
Speaker 1: the San Diego Chargers, Like he knows, like that's sincere,
Speaker 1: that's I And you know, you know how much he
Speaker 1: loves sports. You know you hear him talk about it,
Speaker 1: so you know, yes, he's watched Jim Hill on Channel two,
Speaker 1: He's been interviewed by Jay. He remembers those he's read
Speaker 1: Bill Plashki. He's been interviewed by Bill Plaski. He appreciates
Speaker 1: and I think you know they and that means a
Speaker 1: lot of those guys, because when you get to their
Speaker 1: age and you've been doing it this long to know that,
Speaker 1: you know, here's someone that just won the national championship.
Speaker 1: Tip his cap. It's cool, and it's it's it's and
Speaker 1: I think you know it kind of goes back to
Speaker 1: what I said a second ago. I'm trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what's what's the secret sauce? What is it? What? How?
Speaker 1: Why does it? You have to football players are tough?
Speaker 1: The idea when people are like, oh he's sawt No,
Speaker 1: you put that outfit on and you are tough because
Speaker 1: you are willing to subject yourself to a level of
Speaker 1: violence that ninety nine point nine percent of you know,
Speaker 1: humanity is not willing to do. We see what it
Speaker 1: looks like, it's a car crash after every game. We
Speaker 1: see how these guys are wrapped in ice and what
Speaker 1: theyir fingers look like. And you know, but somehow he
Speaker 1: gets them to play tougher, and it's how what is it?
Speaker 1: How does he do it? And I think you saw
Speaker 1: so much of that in the press conference today. I'm responsible.
Speaker 1: I need to be responsible for Justin Herbert. He's putting
Speaker 1: Derwin James is putting all this effort in. I owe
Speaker 1: it to him. I owe it to him because he's
Speaker 1: putting the work in to be the best coach I
Speaker 1: can be. And that's how it works. Now. It's like
Speaker 1: your parents, you know, like the worst you can get
Speaker 1: them yell at shit and you just roll your eyes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here it comes again. But when they say, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm really disappointed in you, like that crushes you. It
Speaker 1: tears your guts out. And I think that's that's what
Speaker 1: he's able to do. Hey, we're in this together. I'm
Speaker 1: in it with you, we're the coaches, you know, Ben Herbert,
Speaker 1: We're all in this. Let's go get it together and
Speaker 1: not let each other down. And I think that's somehow
Speaker 1: he's able to tap into that better than almost anyone
Speaker 1: else and get every last drop of effort out of
Speaker 1: these guys. And that's that's why you get almost every
Speaker 1: player reaching out to you, and Quintin Johnston saying I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have a breakout year. I can't wait, coach, can't
Speaker 1: wait to get to work like that's it's not someone
Speaker 1: who's hiding because he had a bit of a struggle
Speaker 1: in his first year and is hoping, Hey, let's just
Speaker 1: forget about it and I'll show up at you know,
Speaker 1: any camp and we'll get going. No reaching out. Hey man,
Speaker 1: let's go, let's get to work. I'm gonna have a
Speaker 1: breakout year. Let's get this thing going. And that's it's hard, man.
Speaker 1: It's hard to do because these guys make a lot
Speaker 1: of money and it's a hell of a way to
Speaker 1: make a living and to get them to push a
Speaker 1: little bit harder. Man, it just says a lot about
Speaker 1: leader that you know, the leader that you get.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we said, it starts with him, but you
Speaker 2: and I have discussed how much beyond it's just Jim Harball,
Speaker 2: right Like Ben Herbert, this name that you mentioned, JJ
Speaker 2: Watt was on Pat McAfee talking about him as his
Speaker 2: strength coach at Wisconsin and just like how he's a
Speaker 2: game changer to have somebody like that. We're hearing the
Speaker 2: name Jesse mint Er as a defensive coordinator. Potentially, these
Speaker 2: are guys that are proven commodities, you know, at least
Speaker 2: at the college level, and you know you're only as
Speaker 2: good as your staff. I mean, when you look around
Speaker 2: the league and you see like, oh, that guy got
Speaker 2: a head coaching job, well, you know what, they had
Speaker 2: confidence in the guy, but they also had confidence in
Speaker 2: the staff that he's going to bring along with them.
Speaker 2: And I think that's one of the things that we're
Speaker 2: really going to see take shape here over the next
Speaker 2: couple of weeks is what is Jim Harball's staff going
Speaker 2: to look like? And how will that dictate who they
Speaker 2: acquire in free agency, who do they let go because
Speaker 2: of cap issues, and who do they draft and just
Speaker 2: the whole Joe Hortiz element to this. We can dig
Speaker 2: into more next week after we hear from him. But
Speaker 2: you know, that's that's the other part for me. Money
Speaker 2: is just all the resources like this brand new practice
Speaker 2: facility like these are all winning edges that this organization
Speaker 2: has now that goes beyond just Jim.
Speaker 1: Harball, no doubt. When you mentioned he joined us, he
Speaker 1: gave us about fifteen minutes on Petros and money today
Speaker 1: and I brought up we brought up Ben Herbert and
Speaker 1: the JJ Watt thing, and of course, because he's just
Speaker 1: you know, so good, how he started out by saying,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that JJ came over to me and I
Speaker 1: got all excited. I was at the game and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh cool, JJ's gonna have a conversation with me.
Speaker 1: And all he said to me was, hey, coach, tell
Speaker 1: coach herb. I said, hey, guys, amazing. He's like, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's all I got from JJ. Really was humiliating and humbly.
Speaker 1: But then he said, the guy's incredible. He's like, he goes,
Speaker 1: I don't know how best I can put it into words,
Speaker 1: but if he if we walked out on the pier
Speaker 1: right now and there's shark infested waters, and he said, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm jumping in following me, I wouldn't hesitate. I jump in.
Speaker 1: He goes, there's something about that guy that that that
Speaker 1: people follow and they they they subscribe to his plan,
Speaker 1: and it's a hell of a plan. He said, I'd
Speaker 1: follow him to Helen back. So that's what you're getting
Speaker 1: in your strength and conditioning coach. You mentioned Minter, like
Speaker 1: you said, it's not official, but it sounds like that's
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. You know. He and he and
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald traded places and swap places and we're together
Speaker 1: here and you're here and I'm there, and and you
Speaker 1: saw what Mike McDonald did to that Chiefs offense in
Speaker 1: the second half, shut them out, shut them out. And
Speaker 1: that's the style of defense that that you're going to
Speaker 1: be playing. Got to have the players. When Baltimore's got
Speaker 1: the players. They got Roquan and Patrick Queen and Kyle
Speaker 1: Hamilton and you know, Mattabik and that whole crew. So
Speaker 1: they've they've got the horses, you know, whether or not.
Speaker 1: Like you said, there's going to be some staff and
Speaker 1: some player decisions that are going to have to be made.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that's going to look, but it's
Speaker 1: going to be an impressive staff. And like you said,
Speaker 1: it's the financial commitment. And you know, I think we
Speaker 1: brought this up on the pod, but you know, Ben
Speaker 1: Herbert's got a million dollar buyout, Jim Harbaugh's got a
Speaker 1: million and a half, and I think Jesse Mentor has
Speaker 1: eight hundred grand. It's gonna be three point three million
Speaker 1: dollars in a check written to Michigan just to take
Speaker 1: those guys. And you're talking about a quarter of a
Speaker 1: billion dollar facility. I don't know how much the shot
Speaker 1: back was that he had to pick up at home depot,
Speaker 1: maybe another eighty bucks. But I loved the name checked Fred.
Speaker 1: Cracks me up. That said, hey Fred, come on equipment.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, which is uh, which is great. And I
Speaker 1: think that's part of it. You know, that's part of
Speaker 1: why this was the job, Chris, is it's such a
Speaker 1: blank canvas. It's a brand new facility that he gets
Speaker 1: to build the weight room how he wants it, the
Speaker 1: training rooms, all that stuff. You know. It's like when
Speaker 1: you buy a model home and you get yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: here's the here's the structure, but you get to pick
Speaker 1: out the tile, the cabinets, the floor, you know, all
Speaker 1: the flooring, the fixtures. That's like, that's what he gets
Speaker 1: to do. He's he's going to He's like, we got
Speaker 1: to get this stuff ordered. Man, we got to go
Speaker 1: get this equipment ordered. And I and that's the like
Speaker 1: you said there, you know when you talked about about
Speaker 1: Dean Spanos, you know, and how he got the things started.
Speaker 1: You know, there were two things when it comes to
Speaker 1: to Dean that you out. One is when when Jim
Speaker 1: Harbaugh said, you know, I told him I'm hungry, and
Speaker 1: he said, I'm starving to get a win. So that's one,
Speaker 1: you know, and what do you do when you starve?
Speaker 1: You overeat? You know, you end up buying, you know,
Speaker 1: two different combo meals hit McDonald's. Next thing. You know,
Speaker 1: you got two cheeseburgers and a big mac in your
Speaker 1: belly because you haven't eaten all day. Like when you're starving,
Speaker 1: it's like, what do you need? Let's go, let's just
Speaker 1: And then I loved the line that he used to
Speaker 1: get it started when you know, Dean pointed out, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, we we got you know, it was snowing
Speaker 1: when I when I talked to you on the TOMMAC
Speaker 1: in Michigan, and it's it's you know, now we got
Speaker 1: a storm here. And he's like, now we're the storm.
Speaker 1: Like that's when you're like, okay, here we go, here
Speaker 1: we go. This is what we're talking about. So the
Speaker 1: idea of of we're not just hiring this guy, and
Speaker 1: you know, according to reports, he's the second highest paid
Speaker 1: head coach in the league, but you're hiring the guy
Speaker 1: that's bringing in the staff and all the other stuff
Speaker 1: that comes with it, and that number gets real big,
Speaker 1: real fast. If you want to commit to winning a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and it sounds like every buddy is in
Speaker 1: with both feet.
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Speaker 2: His track record of turning programs around early it's evident
Speaker 2: everywhere he's gone. Now. Yeah, obviously no promise is made
Speaker 2: because you know year one may have to reset at
Speaker 2: some different positions. You still have the Kansas City Chiefs
Speaker 2: in the division. It's a loaded AFC. But just the
Speaker 2: direction that they're going to put this thing and how
Speaker 2: quickly they're going to set it into motion, I think
Speaker 2: that's what has fans so excited. Money And you know,
Speaker 2: I was talking to somebody before the press conference just
Speaker 2: about sports in Los Angeles and you you and I
Speaker 2: both worked for the Lakers around the same time. I've
Speaker 2: always said this to folks, especially when I was on
Speaker 2: the partnership side. It's it's always going to be the
Speaker 2: Lakers and the Dodgers in Los Angeles. It's just how
Speaker 2: it is. Uh, they have the equity of winning and
Speaker 2: the longevity here. But think about all the stars in
Speaker 2: this town. Shoho Tani now with the Dodgers, Lebron James.
Speaker 2: You know, Sean McVeigh is probably a top three head
Speaker 2: coach in the NFL, USC Caleb Williams coming off a
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy, and Lincoln Riley trying to bring that that
Speaker 2: program back to prominence. You know, the U c l
Speaker 2: A and USC women's hoops teams. I mean, there's sports
Speaker 2: is at a premium in Los Angeles, but if you
Speaker 2: don't win, it doesn't matter very much. And the Chargers
Speaker 2: took just took the front page. You know, when you
Speaker 2: when you take Jim Harball, who just won a national championship,
Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna want to see this guy. Everybody's gonna want
Speaker 2: to hear what he has to say. So not only
Speaker 2: are you investing in a coach and a leader and
Speaker 2: a winner and somebody that you hope will bring you
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, but he's going to keep you relevant
Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty five days a year by what
Speaker 2: he says, by how he goes about his job. I
Speaker 2: guarantee you the primetime schedule in twenty twenty four is
Speaker 2: going to reflect that. It's just a lot of things
Speaker 2: that go beyond just winning that Jim Harball provides to
Speaker 2: this organization.
Speaker 1: Now, you know, I'll I know I've brought it up before,
Speaker 1: but I'll use to. I'll use to to create the
Speaker 1: parallel one where the city where I was born and
Speaker 1: lived in until I was seventeen, I've been here for
Speaker 1: thirty three years now. So in Chicago, Bro, you look
Speaker 1: by the way, you look thirty three money, Okay, you
Speaker 1: look fifty. So I've been here thirty three years. I
Speaker 1: was in Chicago for seventeen growing up there, it's a
Speaker 1: Bear's town. Now. The Bears won the Super Bowl when
Speaker 1: I was ten, but it's a Bear's town. It is.
Speaker 1: That's the team that makes the town go behind the Bears.
Speaker 1: You know, back then it was kind of the Cubs,
Speaker 1: you know, they were the lovable losers, and then after
Speaker 1: that you'd get the Blackhawks, maybe a little bit of
Speaker 1: White Sox, and the Chicago Bulls were the dregs, the
Speaker 1: absolute dregs. My you know, we grew up. We didn't
Speaker 1: have a lot of money. My uncle Frank did, and
Speaker 1: he would flip us he had the season tickets for
Speaker 1: the Blackhawks for the Bear you know, he was the
Speaker 1: one rich kind of brother in the family, and he
Speaker 1: would flip my mom that the Bulls tickets because nobody
Speaker 1: wanted them. And so my brother and I would every
Speaker 1: now and then, maybe three times a year, two three times,
Speaker 1: get to go to the Chicago Stadium and watch Dave
Speaker 1: Corzine trip over his own feet, cocaine quintin daily, running
Speaker 1: around like a psycho, you know, get excited about Orlando.
Speaker 1: Nobody cared. I mean when I say nobody cared, nobody
Speaker 1: those places were empty. The highlight of the game was
Speaker 1: making a napkin boat by getting a napkin and twirling
Speaker 1: the corners and then dropping it off the balcony and
Speaker 1: watching it float down. And so that's how we could
Speaker 1: entertain ourselves. Then what happens, you know, Michael Jordan gets
Speaker 1: drafted in eighty four and the rest is history. Becomes
Speaker 1: the number two team in town, and for a while
Speaker 1: they're number one team in town, ahead of the Bears.
Speaker 1: The other one is the Patriots. They were moving to
Speaker 1: Saint Louis. They were moving to Saint Louis. Victor Caiam
Speaker 1: had them sold to a group that was headed up
Speaker 1: by Walter Payton. It's why he retired early, and he
Speaker 1: was taking that team to replace the Cardinals after they
Speaker 1: left for Arizona. In Saint Louis. It was done. That
Speaker 1: is how much of an afterthought that franchise was in
Speaker 1: a Red Sox Celtics town. They could not survive, but
Speaker 1: clausing the contract allowed Robert Kraft to match any deal
Speaker 1: and Bajollette Stadium. He did it. He hires, you know,
Speaker 1: Bill Parcells, gets the Drew Bledsoe thing going. After that,
Speaker 1: he brings in Bill Belichick goes next, and even then
Speaker 1: they were like, eh, still the Patriots, you know, but
Speaker 1: then you get Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are where
Speaker 1: do they fit? You know, where are they? And you
Speaker 1: talk to Boston sports fans, I can promise you if
Speaker 1: they're under the age of thirty five, they're probably number one.
Speaker 1: It can happen. I know it's a Laker and a
Speaker 1: Dodger Ton. I totally know that. And it sounds foolish
Speaker 1: to think the Chargers could possibly dig into that type
Speaker 1: of fan base. Generational fan bases with so many championships.
Speaker 1: But like, that's why it was such a like that's
Speaker 1: one of the things about the pressor that was so
Speaker 1: impressive is he knows, like he gets it. He's not
Speaker 1: saying he's going to get a Super He's like, in
Speaker 1: this town, you got to win more than one. Like,
Speaker 1: we have to win multiple Super Bowls. He knows, he
Speaker 1: gets it. One's not gonna do it. We know it.
Speaker 1: Look at the Rams, they won one and people stopped
Speaker 1: caring the next year. No, you need to win multiple.
Speaker 1: You need to build a juggernaut. You need to build
Speaker 1: the Patriots, you know, to be able to crack and
Speaker 1: into what is an almost impenetrable wall that is the
Speaker 1: Lakers and Dodgers. And I think he recognizes that. He
Speaker 1: feels like he's got the horse to do it with,
Speaker 1: and justin Herbert and the ownership to back him up
Speaker 1: with everything they're they're you know, with all the stuff
Speaker 1: that they're investing in right now, and I think he
Speaker 1: sees that. I would be very surprised. He played for
Speaker 1: the Bears, you know, in the nineties, right at the
Speaker 1: peak of the Bulls. He was there right as their
Speaker 1: ascension began. He was the Bears quarterback in nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: ninety one when they when they won that first one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually I'm almost done with the Wickersham book.
Speaker 2: It's better to be feared about just the Patriots dynasty. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and how you alluded to the fact that that team
Speaker 2: a almost got moved and when Kraft bought the team,
Speaker 2: you know he had he brought in Pete Carroll. He
Speaker 2: really won a Belichick. He took a flyer on Belichick,
Speaker 2: who you know was like almost like radioactive in coaching
Speaker 2: circles because of what happened in Cleveland. And then you know,
Speaker 2: they draft Tom Brady and the and the rest is history.
Speaker 2: You win three super Bowls. Off the top, you have
Speaker 2: what I still think is the greatest team in NFL
Speaker 2: history of the team that lost to the Giants in
Speaker 2: Super Bowl forty two. I mean, but the fact that
Speaker 2: it can change with a coach and a quarterback, and
Speaker 2: that leads me to the quarterback who he called the
Speaker 2: crown Jewel, and I think the relationship that they have money.
Speaker 2: The biggest winner today was Justin Herbert. You know the
Speaker 2: fact that this guy is gonna be his head coach
Speaker 2: and Justin is not gonna have that pressure to just
Speaker 2: be the guy for everybody in this organization. It's gonna
Speaker 2: be that's gonna be on Jim Harbaugh's shoulders, and he
Speaker 2: wants it on his shoulders. What what Justin and Jim
Speaker 2: Harbaugh can do together and how he can protect Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2: He talked about a physical offensive line, protecting the quarterback,
Speaker 2: having a solid running game. I mean, these are things
Speaker 2: that we have not been used to seeing around the
Speaker 2: charges of the last few years. How they shape this offense,
Speaker 2: how they pack a running game, and how they i
Speaker 2: think develop a physical, tough offensive line. We're gonna probably
Speaker 2: see that take shape during free agency, obviously, the draft,
Speaker 2: and just further developing the guys on this roster.
Speaker 1: Man to yeah, to me, there's there's a few hints
Speaker 1: in there right for the upcoming draft and how you're
Speaker 1: gonna build this team. You know, He pointed out that
Speaker 1: it's the only position that everybody else is dependent on
Speaker 1: the offensive line. The offensive line can't protect your quarterback.
Speaker 1: Quarterback can't operate, running backs can't find holes to run through.
Speaker 1: Wide receivers aren't going to get into their routes and
Speaker 1: be able to you know, have a pass thrown their way.
Speaker 1: That's how the offensive line is that important. They make
Speaker 1: the entire thing go. And then he pointed out, and
Speaker 1: defense can't score, he can't win. So it's it's a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff that we alluded to, like, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: going to be some impressive wide receivers sitting there at
Speaker 1: five and brock Bowers is there, and you know, look,
Speaker 1: they may go that direction, but it wouldn't to me,
Speaker 1: like it's wouldn't surprise me if it's a tackle because
Speaker 1: that offensive line, like it's where he said, it's where
Speaker 1: it starts. We've got it. We got to protect that
Speaker 1: guy because he touches the ball every single play. He
Speaker 1: has got to be protected. Priority number one. Protect that guy.
Speaker 1: Run the ball, to protect wide receivers blocked so the
Speaker 1: running back can run the ball, so play action works
Speaker 1: and he's protected. Offensive line has got to protect him.
Speaker 1: So there's that and and defense, like I said, hey,
Speaker 1: what he say. He said, it's not offense defense, special teams,
Speaker 1: it's defense. That's what this is defense. And I think
Speaker 1: that to me that set the tone of yeah, there's
Speaker 1: some shiny toys there. There's brock Bauers, and there's roma Dunza,
Speaker 1: and there's Malik Neighbors. But if you can't protect that guy,
Speaker 1: you know, with Joe Alt or one of these other tackles,
Speaker 1: then it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, doesn't matter who
Speaker 1: the back is, who the wide receiver is, because he's
Speaker 1: not quarterbacks not protected. So that's where it all starts.
Speaker 1: And I think that was and look, that's that's how
Speaker 1: he won at Michigan, right, you know, by having the
Speaker 1: best offensive line in the nation, by having the best
Speaker 1: defense and then nation, and by wearing you down and
Speaker 1: winning games on toughness and watching attrition take hold of
Speaker 1: your opponent while you're able to thrive. It's it's excited.
Speaker 1: It's not. It's it's not Lincoln Riley, spread them out,
Speaker 1: throw it all over the place, score sixty points a game.
Speaker 1: It's not Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh. It's much different, much different.
Speaker 1: It is. It's submission, attrition, physicality. It's a it's I
Speaker 1: think that's and I think it's exciting that that he's
Speaker 1: gonna you know that that he sees justin and that's
Speaker 1: what his first thought is. It's not oh Wow, this
Speaker 1: dude's got an incredible arm. And we got Keenan Allen
Speaker 1: and all these toys and Quinton and I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: get a receiver at five and he's gonna throw. No
Speaker 1: guy needs to be protected. We got to protect that guy.
Speaker 1: And that's his first thought. And I think that sort
Speaker 1: of speaks to how he intends to play football.
Speaker 2: And having having the fifth overall pick, the possibilities are
Speaker 2: limitless in terms of trading back. You're hearing all the
Speaker 2: You're hearing all these teams that want to move up
Speaker 2: to get a quarterback. Right now, If if something happens
Speaker 2: where Marvin Harrison and you know, a Donsa or another
Speaker 2: player gets picked before five and there's a quarterback sitting
Speaker 2: there at five for a team, who's to say that
Speaker 2: this team doesn't trade back. Get that offensive lineman, get
Speaker 2: that tight end, you know, and then you know, just
Speaker 2: the player development aspect of this money with the guys
Speaker 2: that are currently on the roster, like here in Quintin Johnson,
Speaker 2: I kind of re energize going into his second year
Speaker 2: thinking he can have a breakout year under Jim Harball.
Speaker 2: I mean, those are the things that you want to
Speaker 2: see the guys who were drafted last year that you know,
Speaker 2: who knows if they were drafted for a specific type
Speaker 2: of defense or a specific type of offense that they
Speaker 2: that they were running under Brandon Staley can Jim Harball
Speaker 2: and Ben Herbert and whoever the DC or the o
Speaker 2: C is for this team can and they squeeze every
Speaker 2: bit of potential out of the guys that are currently
Speaker 2: on this roster. I think that that's something that you've
Speaker 2: seen throughout Jim Harball's coaching career. It's just getting the
Speaker 2: most out of the players on that roster. So, going
Speaker 2: beyond free agency in the draft, the players that are
Speaker 2: under contract here, the guys who were maybe undrafted free
Speaker 2: agents or late round picks over the last couple of years,
Speaker 2: can they develop into something that Jim Harball could be
Speaker 2: proud of on either side of the football. And I
Speaker 2: think the answer is yes.
Speaker 1: You know, he's done it. He's done it at Michigan.
Speaker 1: He did it at Stanford. You know, he put guys
Speaker 1: in the NFL at Stanford, you know, and he's putting
Speaker 1: a lot of guys into the NFL at Michigan. And look,
Speaker 1: it's Michigan. It's a blue blood. But that's why we've
Speaker 1: talked about Stanford so much. It's just one of the
Speaker 1: most incredible coaching jobs that you'll ever see because of
Speaker 1: the type of institution it is, the grades you have
Speaker 1: to have to get in there, the style of football
Speaker 1: they got those kids to play, who you know, aren't
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to survive and change the fortune of
Speaker 1: my family that that's you know, had generation after generation
Speaker 1: of you know, no education, and we've been stuck in
Speaker 1: this particular lot in life. And this is our opportunity
Speaker 1: and my opportunity to pull on. It's not a lot
Speaker 1: of those kids. It's four point five students that are
Speaker 1: getting engineered Andrew Luck getting an architecture degree and going
Speaker 1: out there and getting his head caved in on Saturdays
Speaker 1: and being willing to submit to that like that's what
Speaker 1: he created there. So like that's it's the developmental process
Speaker 1: and creating JJ, you know, and helping to develop JJ
Speaker 1: mccarthyen to a first round pick, Like it's that that's
Speaker 1: and I think that's what you're speaking to, right that
Speaker 1: just because you may have some preconceived notions about what
Speaker 1: these players are because of the last two or three
Speaker 1: years that they've been on this roster, that does not
Speaker 1: mean that a new coaching staff can't help, you know,
Speaker 1: turn players that had grades that saw them get drafted
Speaker 1: in the third round, and if the Chargers didn't take them,
Speaker 1: another team probably would. So much football is the ultimate
Speaker 1: circumstance sport that so much of your success is predicated
Speaker 1: on circumstance. What if Tom Brady wasn't drafted by the Patriots?
Speaker 1: What if he was drafted in the sixth round by
Speaker 1: another team that had no interest in giving him a
Speaker 1: right to an open competition and a chance to show
Speaker 1: that even though I got this sixth round grade and
Speaker 1: I'm not a very impressive, you know athlete, I'm still
Speaker 1: going to be the best quarterback in the history. Like
Speaker 1: it's circumstance. It's the fact that the Chargers were in
Speaker 1: the playoffs with a ten win team last year, had
Speaker 1: a twenty seven to zhing lead on the Jaguars blew
Speaker 1: it that led to a coach getting fired after an
Speaker 1: unthinkable sixty three point output by a Raiders offense that
Speaker 1: had scored zero the week before led to a firing,
Speaker 1: And now we're sitting here talking about Jim Harball, Like
Speaker 1: it's just it's such a weird sport that way that
Speaker 1: that that so much hinges on the right people being
Speaker 1: connected at the right time, and this just feels different.
Speaker 1: It feels it feels like it's all lined up. And
Speaker 1: what that means for Tuley and day On and who knows,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe Kenneth Murray even though they pick up his
Speaker 1: fifth year option and coach, you know, if it's jesse
Speaker 1: Minner saying, oh no, we can work with that, you know,
Speaker 1: and and maybe j T. Woods, you know, A Lowe's
Speaker 1: a free agent. Maybe there's something there. Guy had six
Speaker 1: interceptions in a season. Let's figure it out. But you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot to the look he said it right,
Speaker 1: He's like, we got a lot of work to do.
Speaker 1: We're going to be busy, and it's you know, starts
Speaker 1: with the staff and don't know what it's going to
Speaker 1: look like on the offensive side. Looks like defense is
Speaker 1: Jesse Minner, we know what strength and conditioning is, not
Speaker 1: sure about special teams. But that's you know, that's what's
Speaker 1: going to get sorted out here in the next week
Speaker 1: or two and and then next and you know, we'll
Speaker 1: be out at the combine the end of February getting
Speaker 1: excited about all those players as we get closer to
Speaker 1: the to the draft, and you know, and then you
Speaker 1: blink your eyes and it's it's April and we're in
Speaker 1: the draft.
Speaker 2: That's the thing, man, You know, Charges weekly, we do
Speaker 2: this every Thursday all year round. We're always engaged, but
Speaker 2: but this this part of the season just it means
Speaker 2: that much more for for the fans of the Chargers too,
Speaker 2: that you know, the combine when you have a top
Speaker 2: five pick, a brand new coach, and a brand new
Speaker 2: GM man, the combine is fun. Like it's the possibilities
Speaker 2: and the talk about the team and what they're gonna
Speaker 2: do with free agency and the possibilities at five or
Speaker 2: early in the second round. I mean, we're gonna be
Speaker 2: talking about so many things over the next couple of weeks,
Speaker 2: this staff coming together, some of the decisions that they're
Speaker 2: going to have to make from a cap perspective, you know,
Speaker 2: looking at the free agents after the franchise, get all
Speaker 2: hashed out, like who's a good fit for this defense,
Speaker 2: the offensive line. I mean, it's gonna make this off
Speaker 2: season so much fun, man, I know that. You know,
Speaker 2: Jim went an hour today and he had like so
Speaker 2: many fun little you know, anecdotes and stuff about his brother.
Speaker 2: He was talking about his daughter has a mantra. The
Speaker 2: whole Harball family has a matra.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: It was just it was fun to listen to him.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to touch on before
Speaker 2: we say? You know, we've done two pods this week.
Speaker 2: I think next week will be a big one in
Speaker 2: terms of just seeing the staff and really kind of
Speaker 2: digging in to what the identity is going to be
Speaker 2: offensively and defensively and kind of the history of some
Speaker 2: of the guys who are going to be on their staff.
Speaker 1: Well, here's all I'll do because we don't. We don't
Speaker 1: because typically I'm wrong about everything. Just to me the presser, Chris,
Speaker 1: I just feel like it it's sort of validated everything
Speaker 1: we've been talking about for the last month. You know,
Speaker 1: who are the Jim Harbaugh players there? The ones he mentioned,
Speaker 1: Rashaan Slater, Derwin James, Justin Herbert, Like it was so obvious.
Speaker 1: It's like that, you know, we talked about everybody's saying, oh,
Speaker 1: they're just gonna you know, Jim Harbaugh is gonna take
Speaker 1: control of everything and it's gonna end badly like Belichick.
Speaker 1: We said, no, it's probably gonna be Joe in the
Speaker 1: off season and Jim in the in the regular season.
Speaker 1: What do you say today, He'll be Batman, I'll be rob.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's there's that like we talked about, Yeah,
Speaker 1: enough with the conversation about the Spinals is not spending
Speaker 1: money and what did he say? He's like, yeah, they're
Speaker 1: they're in that. You don't you know, you don't. You
Speaker 1: don't hire Jim Harbaugh and then go cheap. It's not
Speaker 1: the way it works. You know, guy's gonna make reportedly
Speaker 1: sixteen million bucks a year and they're gonna spend a
Speaker 1: fortune on his staff and on whatever he needs. So
Speaker 1: it's kind of like all the all the things, all
Speaker 1: the shots that were taken just getting swatted away one
Speaker 1: after another. You know that That that's sort of the
Speaker 1: feeling that I got at that presser today. There's Look,
Speaker 1: there are there are older coaches that are taking on
Speaker 1: the job retirement, that are resting on their laurels, and
Speaker 1: they'll take that check and they don't care. They don't
Speaker 1: care if it negatively affects their record. It's like whatever,
Speaker 1: I'm making a ton of money and I'm going to
Speaker 1: get these last couple checks here because it's generational wealth.
Speaker 1: That is not Jim Harbaugh. This dude loves coaching football
Speaker 1: and he is the most competitive coach in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And now that he is back, and I just, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I think you felt that, you know it,
Speaker 1: Like you said, his daughter has the work together, win together.
Speaker 1: Like it's just in there.
Speaker 2: We got to put that on a shirt. Let's get
Speaker 2: that on a shirt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like he said, He's like, how lucky am
Speaker 1: I that I was born into this family. He's like,
Speaker 1: that's just luck that I'm a Harbaugh and I get
Speaker 1: and I get all of this, you know, And that's it.
Speaker 1: That's what that family is. Jack and Jackie, John and
Speaker 1: Jim and my god, I mean even their brother in
Speaker 1: law Tom Crean's a psycho competitor, you know, Like that's
Speaker 1: just what they are. And so we're the beneficiaries now,
Speaker 1: you know. Now we get to be the lucky ones.
Speaker 1: And look, is it going to result in multiple Super Bowls?
Speaker 1: I hope. So it's not easy. His brother John can
Speaker 1: tell you that been the most maybe consistent winner in
Speaker 1: the AFC for the last twenty years, and they got
Speaker 1: one Super Bowl appearance and win to show for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is not easy. You know, Patrick Mahomes and the
Speaker 1: Chiefs maybe lead you to believe that it is. It's not.
Speaker 1: What they're doing is incredible and really as great as
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and the Patriots were. This six year run
Speaker 1: has been insane that they are on and part of
Speaker 1: me is happy that they're back there instead of the Ravens,
Speaker 1: so Jim Harbaugh can end it, so it can be
Speaker 1: the Chargers in Harball that puts an end to it.
Speaker 1: So that's it. That's all.
Speaker 2: The foundation has now been laid, and I just think
Speaker 2: it's going to be a program that the entire fan
Speaker 2: base can get behind, win, losing, different tough times. You know,
Speaker 2: adversity is going to strike every team every year. There's
Speaker 2: going to be stuff. You know, we live in this
Speaker 2: prisoner of the moment twenty for our news cycle where
Speaker 2: it's like, man, you're only as good as your last
Speaker 2: win or your last week. But just to see everything
Speaker 2: that has been kind of poured into this and how
Speaker 2: hungry ownership of the fan base and I think the
Speaker 2: players too now like to have a guy buddy. There's
Speaker 2: just last thing for me is like there's just something
Speaker 2: to be said about a guy who played quarterback in
Speaker 2: the NFL, who has been through what the players go
Speaker 2: through on a on a weekly basis, on a daily basis,
Speaker 2: getting your body prepared to play the next week when
Speaker 2: you're leader. Has done that at a level that most
Speaker 2: people can only dream of being at. I mean, you
Speaker 2: got a guy that you can get behind, that you
Speaker 2: can you know, work hard for, and and it just
Speaker 2: goes beyond yourself. And again, like you said, it could
Speaker 2: be not motivational, sappy stuff. When he says all these
Speaker 2: things like man, you better believe that he believes it.
Speaker 2: Like he had one phrase too, He's like when people
Speaker 2: say have a nice day, I don't like that. No,
Speaker 2: make it a great day, make it right.
Speaker 1: I don't not.
Speaker 2: I don't want to leave the chance. I don't want
Speaker 2: to leave you. And you better believe. He says this
Speaker 2: to his team every single day, and he makes sure
Speaker 2: that the eye on the prize is the team. And
Speaker 2: and that's what I think just has given fans goosebumps
Speaker 2: like the last month thinking that this could be a possibility.
Speaker 2: And I'm just happy for all of our listeners of
Speaker 2: viewers watching this that they can go to bed tonight
Speaker 2: and feel good about their foototball team and just a
Speaker 2: fun off season ahead.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's perfectly put and I don't have
Speaker 1: much to add. I would just I would just say this,
Speaker 1: and I think it's kind of going back to what
Speaker 1: I said about the Ravens and how hard it is
Speaker 1: to win a championship in this league. But the one
Speaker 1: thing that I feel has been very frustrating for the
Speaker 1: fan base these last few years is I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think the best way to put this without you know,
Speaker 1: taking a shot. I'm not trying to do that, but
Speaker 1: you are, you know, very very common in coaching circles.
Speaker 1: You know, what is preached is the result is the result.
Speaker 1: You can't control that. Weird things happen. Don't get hung
Speaker 1: up on the result, get hung up on the process.
Speaker 1: You know, put yourself in a position to win the contest,
Speaker 1: whether that's a sporting contest or the game of life.
Speaker 1: But whatever it is that you are putting and pouring
Speaker 1: yourself into, respect and honor the process and give it
Speaker 1: everything you've got and then whatever the result may be,
Speaker 1: so be it. That's okay. Wins lost. You know what,
Speaker 1: we were in it, and we did everything we could
Speaker 1: to win that game. I feel like the last couple
Speaker 1: of years, that's not how the fans felt. I think
Speaker 1: you you would walk out of some of those games saying,
Speaker 1: how are how are we not ready for that? How
Speaker 1: did they let that team do that to them? How
Speaker 1: did you come out of halftime? And that's what you had? Like,
Speaker 1: I felt like there was too much of that that
Speaker 1: maybe that that that what that almost and not that
Speaker 1: you're cheating the system or that you think somehow, oh
Speaker 1: I stole the answer key and that's how we're going
Speaker 1: to win this. That that that hard work wasn't you know,
Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't mean to take I just
Speaker 1: feel like that's that was sort of that that level
Speaker 1: of frustration that came along with so many of those losses,
Speaker 1: the way games were lost, You felt like, ah, how
Speaker 1: did how did that happen? How did we not see
Speaker 1: that coming? And it was just repeatedly. DJ had the
Speaker 1: best line. He's like, this team gets hit by the
Speaker 1: right hand more than any in all of football. How
Speaker 1: do they keep getting How do they know the right
Speaker 1: hand's coming and they still get hit by it? And
Speaker 1: I think that's that's never gonna happen again. I can
Speaker 1: tell you that right now, not what this guy as
Speaker 1: head coach, It'll be a team that is ready for
Speaker 1: every contest, that fights their ass off in every contest,
Speaker 1: and the results, They're not gonna win every game. They
Speaker 1: may not win more games than they lose next year,
Speaker 1: depending on how they decide to approach this upcoming season
Speaker 1: with with you know, with players and salaries. But you
Speaker 1: know that when they take the field, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a it's gonna be a rock fight, and the other
Speaker 1: team is not gonna want to take by. They're going
Speaker 1: to loathe that they're about to take part in the
Speaker 1: next sixty minutes. And I think that's something you can
Speaker 1: get excited about and be proud to say, I'm a
Speaker 1: fan of this team and I'm excited about what's going
Speaker 1: to happen here today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well said man. We'll end it there, time to
Speaker 2: clock out for the night. We'll be back next week.
Speaker 2: I'm sure a ton to talk about. Joe Hortez's press
Speaker 2: conferences on Tuesday will dissect that, and I'm sure by
Speaker 2: this time next week money we'll know a lot more
Speaker 2: about maybe some of the staff and some of the
Speaker 2: other things going on around the league. That may affect
Speaker 2: the team, no doubt. Al Right, guys for money, I'm Chris.
Speaker 2: This has been charges weekly. Have a great night.