It's time for MacGeekGab, and listener Todd brings us our quick tip of the week
with copy in Finder file preview.
I do this all the time, but in case someone else does not know,
I often need to copy a value out of a PDF.
I click once on the PDF in the Finder, hit the space bar, double click on the
value or word, and Command-C to copy it.
It works like a charm and is very efficient. If the text in the PDF is not selectable,
I use TextSniper to OCR to the clipboard.
More quick tips like this, plus your questions answered on today's MacGeekGab
1023 for Monday, February 5th, 2024.
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in south dakota i'm adam christiansen and here
in new hampshire for those listening live happy groundhog
day it's pilot pete and for
those not listening live happy groundhog day happy groundhog
day this is how it repeats itself by recording it
and wishing everyone a happy groundhog day i knew we would
stumble on to this our time shifting of things has finally succeeded i love
it there you go uh in addition before we start let me be the first to wish everybody
a happy groundhog day sorry i couldn't help myself i'll stop now oh Welcome to spring, right?
They pulled that little rat out of the log and he said.
No shadow. Yeah, early spring. Yeah, that's right.
To celebrate early spring, we will have our next Mac Geekab Hangout,
but it's also a Mac Hangout.
Mac Geekab Hangout on Sunday, February 18th at 4 p.m. Eastern time.
If you are subscribed to MacGeekab.com slash calendar, this already is there.
In that calendar event will be the zoom details and passcode.
If you aren't subscribed to the calendar, join our discord for the zoom details
or the passcode, or make sure you're subscribed to our email list, uh, at Mac, he kept.com.
We will also send you the zoom details and the passcode there.
We just can't post the passcode on social media because we did that once.
And that hangout sucked. Yeah. Well, we had all the script kitties coming in.
They, Adam, you weren't there.
Like they were, they were like, I give them credit. They fooled us. They were clever.
They were clever. What they did was they would join and then change their name.
We've also changed the security on this. So no one can change their names,
but they would, they would join and then change their name to match someone else in the room. Right.
Like, you know, some actual real person.
And then they would post, then they would post the filthiest thing that they
could possibly imagine, uh, and quickly change their name to something else,
which would cause us to boot out a legitimate user.
And we played whack-a-mole like this for far too long one Sunday afternoon.
So, uh, we don't do that anymore. We enjoy the hangout.
This, the subject of this hangout, instead of it being whack-a-mole is going
to be talking Mac web browsers.
Now that, that is true. And we will talk Mac web browsers.
There was a discussion in discord about it and uh it seemed like the kind of thing where if we could.
A lot of people were saying well i like you know
somebody was like i like arc browser because i can
have you know side tabs on
the side instead of tabs at the top and several of
us asked can you show us that like i get what you're
saying and i understand it like mechanically but
i don't understand it experientially and seeing
some screenshots is like oh i see how that works so the idea
is with zoom we can all share our screens or any
of us that want to can share our screens and and kind of show each other how
we're using the features we like in our favorite web browsers and and even in
even if we all have the same favorite web browser my guess is we're all doing
slightly different things and it really makes a difference so that's the the
the stated topic of of our hangout,
but for anyone who's been to our hangout, go ahead, Adam. What's that?
I was going to say, if you're going to be sharing screens, it's a good thing
you got that security lock. Yeah. We figured that part out. Yes.
You don't need it becoming a big old chat roulette.
No, we don't need it becoming a chat roulette. I'm, I'm, I'm actually upset
that you even mentioned that term here on sullied Mac geek out with that right
up until this moment, we were happy that Adam joined and then, uh,
no, seriously, very happy. But, um.
But the conversation will devolve. I was going to say evolve.
It will devolve into whatever it is we want to talk about. I have no doubt that
we'll wind up talking a lot about Vision Pro and all of that good stuff because
people will have them in hand.
Speaking of, Adam, yours, we are recording this on Friday the 5th.
Sorry, it comes out on Friday the 5th. We're recording it on Groundhog Day on the 2nd.
And so yours is due to arrive after we've finished.
I have no doubt. by 9 p.m. tonight right
okay all right all right it'll be here sooner ups
usually gets here right after lunch so got it expect it sometime
right after lunch yeah yeah so you're pretty shot yeah
pretty solid exactly yeah i'm gonna be doing yeah yeah cool one of the one of
the reviews called it basically said it's like a drug i believe that like that's
the they said that's That's the most dangerous thing about it is like,
you know, and I see that and my family is super concerned about that, to be honest with you.
Well, because it, you're going to go into this thing and we're never going to see you ever again.
Well, they'll just see you through the thing. Like that's the,
yeah, it's a little, a little frightening. Yeah.
Dystopian. Yeah. I can see that.
I mean, the whole internet is like dystopian in that way.
Like we're, we're disconnected from one another. It's, you know,
it's a, it's a, yeah, but to draw a quick question, I think it's a.
It's a projection of your eyes, right? It's not translucent.
It's a projection of your eyes onto the screen in front of you.
So someone feels like they're looking at you.
Well, again, the reviews are that in person, it's actually really bad and low res.
And so like the marketing, they've done some nice adjustments on their marketing
videos and things where it looks a lot more transparent.
But apparently, like in real life and some of the YouTube videos,
when you see the eyes can get off a little bit and a little distorted and wonky.
They need to do some work on
that on that feature it sounds like it's not quite
ready for and the other thing is personas they're launching
as beta so that too so the whole persona thing which looks really great like
they they got the face down but a bunch of people pointed out joanna stern i
think her if you watch her video you'll see how bad it is especially for someone
who has longer hair or or wears more flowing clothes because you do the scan
and your face is animated,
but your hair is not. So you get like hair helmet.
And then if you're wearing jewelry and it's off to the side or you turn your
head, right. If you have normally hair that would flow, your hair doesn't move.
It's just like, Oh, right. Of course. Yeah.
It's like frozen in time. So, huh? Yeah.
They say it's beta. So hopefully, hopefully they can get some physics in there
at some point for air and clothing and stuff like that. I don't know how far
they can take it, but right, right. You know, that's, that's funny.
I mean, it takes some serious coding to make it look natural.
That's not just a, you know, computer, you know, can only do what you tell it to do. That's right.
Yeah. Yeah. But, but the face tracking is really excellent. And somebody pointed
out, I didn't think about this either is how are they doing them? The mouth.
Because there is no camera pointed at your mouth. There are the down-facing
cameras, so there must be some sort of combination of audio to get the lip movements
accurate. That would be my guess.
They're creating the lips that would match the sounds you're making with your mouth.
Apparently, it's really good. That's cool. All right. Okay.
Well, I have no doubt that we will talk about that on the next episode,
which is, you know, a special number for us nerds, which is MGG 1024.
We might have a special guest with us next week too for MGG 1024,
and we might do some other things, but we will almost certainly be talking about
your Vision Pro experience, you know, after a week or so with the device.
So I'm looking forward to that.
Shall we do some? Come in as my persona.
Yes, you will come in as your persona. If we can rig that up,
that'd be great. Oh, yeah. That'd be terrible. Dave, I have to ask before we get into it.
It's the dog bark. I can turn my mic to mute through most of this.
Not getting it. Okay. No. The gates.
Yeah. The audio magic is doing whatever it's doing. Yeah. The neighbor's dog
has decided that now is the time to go nuts.
I got to tell you, obviously we've been doing this show for almost 19 years
and not quite as long as Adam did Mac cast yet, but we, we, and we've been obsessed
with audio quality the whole time.
And used all the technology available to us to make it sound as good for you
and us as we possibly can.
The last couple of years with what we'll call AI, but it's really just machine
learning, pattern matching,
the engines that can use that in real time to clean up audio are absolutely fantastic.
Fantastic apple's got some the the
platform that we use to for our voice
and video connection is called stream yard it's got
some uh i've mostly we
we mostly leverage the one in stream yard uh and
then pete are you using anything on your end to do
that well i have audio hijack pros running i believe let me
see if i've got that one on it so yes so i've got speech denoise
audio hijack pro speech denoise okay yeah
okay because but when i turn on the au sound isolation which
is an apple filter yeah audio hijack it
it gets really hinky yeah yeah apple's speech
um yeah the au sound isolation plug-in
it works but when employed in
real time there's a slight lag that we notice uh which we don't get with um
the audio hijack speech isolation or the other one that i use here on my end
is is from izotope it's called rx10 which is rx is their suite of cleanup.
Tools and uh i'm just pulling the name up here it's called voice d noise rx10
voice d noise and that one works great in real time but it's just amazing like
if we had this capability.
Five years ago, we would have been, it would have changed things for the show. Like it's great.
Yeah. And you mentioned StreamYard and I'll say this for anyone wanting to do
a podcast that I was in Singapore last week when we recorded the show that's out this week.
And at one point I was missing probably 40% of the audio during the live stream.
The beauty of StreamYard is it takes your audio, puts it on your computer and
then uploads it. So the show sounds clean.
It's like I was there the whole time. They were there the whole time.
So it's really impressive technology that they, they take it all and upload
it as a file, as opposed to the digitization that I was getting when we were using it in real time.
This is for your, so there I was show, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
All right. Well, we've, um, we, we knew that we had lots and lots of stuff to go through.
And so now it's time for quick tips. Now it's time for just the quick tips. That's right. Yep.
Uh, Adam, you want to start us off?
Uh, sure. Sure, we got John giving us some additional details about Apple Vision
Pro and the lenses, the lens inserts.
He says, like Adam, I ordered the Vision Pro on launch day. One thing that caused
confusion was the dialogue about Zeiss inserts.
It asked whether I had an eyeglasses or contact prescription, to which I said both.
Then it asked which I use more, and I said contact lenses. lenses.
It then asked if my contact lenses were monovision, meaning that one was for
far away and one was for reading. And then I said, yes.
It then said I needed inserts, but I was confused because it did not ask which
eye is close and which is far.
And that information is not on my contact's prescription.
When I asked to upload, when I asked to upload, it was not clear if I should
upload my eyeglasses prescription or my contact lens prescription.
I talked to three different Apple reps about this. None of them knew anything.
None of them could answer this question about which prescription to upload and
how they were going to deal with the MonoVision issue without knowing which
eye was closer, which eye was far.
But I finally reached Zeiss support and got the answer.
With normal contacts, you don't need inserts. With MonoVision contacts,
Apple Vision Pro will display strangely with or without inserts.
So the only option is to use inserts without contact lenses,
and hence I should upload my my eyeglass prescription.
The other thing I learned is that uploading your prescription is not only mandatory,
but they won't accept it without the prescription showing your date of birth.
The date of your eye exam has to be within the past year. I thought it was two
years. I thought it was two years. I think it is two years. Yeah.
Signature of the doctor and the full prescription number. The ZEISS rep said
that many uploads were being rejected because one or more of these requirements was missing.
Anyway, I thought this clarification would be helpful to someone, to some
of your listeners who got tripped up in the onboarding process
so thanks john for that that's a lot of additional
detail and a lot of good things to know because it i would
imagine surprised we didn't hear more about this because i would imagine it
would have been very frustrating you know on you know pre-order day if a lot
of people were getting rejected on the well description i wonder if they were
rejected after the fact correct like right well but not on pre-order day like
you know in the in in the days following. I don't know. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're probably easier, easier to crack. So I would imagine
it's just a matter of you can get that corrected and they can still get the lenses in there.
I think they have a good supply of the lenses. It seems so bizarre to me.
That like I can go and order lenses from, you know, I buy direct or Zeni and
they ask for your prescription, but they just ask you to type in the numbers and put in the date.
Right. Like it's up to you as to whether your prescription is current or not.
They aren't being the prescription, the vision prescription police. Right. Right.
Exactly. Clearly, these companies like clearly someone at the FDA or whoever
might care about these things is aware of this by this point in time.
I mean, I buy direct and Zeni send, you know, send glasses, sell glasses all the time.
And so I'm just surprised that Apple is choosing to be the vision police here.
And I'd be curious to know why that is.
Like, is there something, like, do they want to play really extra special nice
with the FDA so that they can, like, I don't know.
Pick me. Pick me. You know, like, they don't have to. Pete, yes? Yeah.
Dave, you know this. You don't have to ask. It's the lawyers.
Yeah. Yeah. Right? And you know what they say about lawyers?
99% of them ruin it for the rest. I know. Okay, don't send me email,
guys. That's funny. I know. I know.
And thankfully, I've met the rest. Lawyer Jeff out there is amazing.
There you go. But why Apple's lawyers and not anybody else's lawyer?
This is the question I have. And I know this is rhetorical.
Hundreds of millions they spend on lawyers. Yeah. I'm going to come back in
my next life as an Apple lawyer.
I don't know that you want that job. I've had to talk to some Apple lawyers.
That's true. it's not yeah no that's that's like work
they expect results i think the
difference here is that glasses and
you know eyeglasses have been around for centuries yeah oh so we know eyeglasses
right we're talking about a brand new unproven technology that you are having
people put on their face for extended hours of time with displays you know this
close and lights shooting into your eyes and,
you know, like, I think they're a little more concerned,
like, you might have a better case for a lawsuit if you get damaged by this
thing, and if you have the wrong...
Lenses like that's really on probably on you but you're
gonna go after still yeah no yeah that's it that makes
perfect sense because this is not a pair of glasses you're absolutely
right i i think yeah i mean
no one no one knows what's gonna happen yeah no no no yeah of course all right
uh so back to the quick tips i discovered something this week i had to punt
on my network time machine backup because despite me having tons of room and
continuing to give it more room on my Synology disk station,
Time Machine kept telling me, you don't have enough room, you don't have enough
room. So I was like, all right, fine. It's time.
And so I wiped it out and then had to go in on my Mac in the office and tell
it, go, you know, choose this as a new Time Machine destination.
And it did. And it came up with the screen and it gave me the option to encrypt
my backup or not. And then below that was something I did not know existed.
It had an option for disk usage limit in time machine, at least for a network volume.
And it was defaulted to none or I could choose custom.
And then it showed me the full amount of space on the volume.
And I could drag a slider back and forth to set whatever quota I want.
So I set it to just shy of the full size of the quota that I had set on my Synology,
but it wouldn't have known that. It can't see that.
It just sees a volume of a certain size and that's it.
And so I set it to just shy of that. And now when I look in Time Machine,
it says that there is a 1.05 terabyte quota for that volume.
No amount of right-clicking or control-clicking or option-clicking or any other
type of clicking that I could come up with gave me the ability to edit that
after choosing it the first time. So choose wisely.
But, and I don't know if when it starts to get full, if it can't successfully
stay within the limits via its pruning, will it ask me, do you want to increase the quota, Dave?
My guess is it will not but uh
but anyway i i was shocked to see this i i don't know how long it's been there
but it it hasn't been that long it's either new with sonoma or or maybe you
know ventura right before it so but otherwise yeah because i because i this
happens once a year or something that i need to wipe out a backup so yeah i
know i was i was impressed.
Listener Joe brings us our next quick tip.
He says, I have a trip to Mexico planned next month. Same.
I was not planning to buy an international pass for his phone data as I won't
need data while I'm there.
And he's with Mint, which now has their Minter National Pass,
which is priced a little bit differently than things used to be.
He says, what will happen with text messages and phone calls, though?
In the past, I've always kept a small roaming balance so that any inbound.
This is really interesting. This is I will answer this question.
I screwed things up when I created this quick tip because this is a question from Joe.
And this is not the quick tip that Joe had sent in. But I will I will answer the question over here.
He says, in the past, I've always kept a small roaming balance so that any inbound
texts or calls will make it to me.
What will happen now? Now, what will happen now, Joe, is that you will not get
them if you are on cell data.
Mint, there is no, you used to be able to keep a roaming balance with Mint and
the, and it would just deduct, you know, five cents every time an SMS came in
or, you know, however many cents your phone call would have cost from that balance.
Those went away now and they gave you your money back. They put it into a thing
that you can use like for renewals or anything else you want to buy with mint.
So you didn't lose the money you had in your roaming balance.
But now if you don't have a mint or national plan, which is everything for a
short period of time, you get it for a day or seven days or whatever.
If you don't have that mint or national plan, texts and phone calls will not
come through to your phone unless you are on Wi-Fi calling, in which case they still will.
So that answers that question. question
and now joe has a quick tip for us did you
guys know that yeah i noticed that yeah about safari tabs
yeah he he notes that if uh
you choose to open a new
link in uh or a link in a new tab right you
know you can right click on a link and say open a new tab or or command click
on it if you have it set up that way so there's another quick tip
you can just have links open new tabs by command clicking if you
open a link in a new tab and then you click the back button it will close that
tab and go back to where you came from which is a nice little quick tip interesting
yeah yeah so thank you for that joe and uh thanks for the bonus question too,
we were i think we were going to answer that later in the episode but uh but you know there you go.
Yeah, I screwed up the workflow. I was it's it's because I don't know how to
manage my own clipboard. That's really what it comes down to, guys.
Let's see. Tannel points out an interesting thing with the iOS 17.4 beta that he has been using.
Siri, he says on my iPhone, is set to British English.
Since I live in Estonia, I get a lot a lot of messages in Estonian.
No surprises there. Siri tries to announce these messages, but obviously British
Siri cannot read Estonian.
American Siri cannot either, but British Siri is slightly better as it pronounces
vowels more similar to Estonian than American Siri does.
Yesterday, he says, I was surprised that while driving, Siri announced a message
that was sent in Estonian.
And then it said, if you want to reply, you can do it in English.
Naturally, I parked my car and checked the Siri settings and there it was.
In setting Syrian search messaging with Siri read messages Finnish slash Finland was selected.
So Siri assumed that I am getting messages in Finnish which makes sense as the
two languages are similar.
More importantly Finnish Siri can read Estonian with no problem.
Very interesting. That's I like to see. Yeah, that's something that would have
gone unnoticed had you not shared it with us.
That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So you know there we are that's uh
that's how we do it i got one more quick
tip left before we uh move on all right great uh ben
shares with us he says
uh in episode 997 you were talking about keyboard shortcuts
uh on the mac in messages he says
i just discovered that i can click an individual message on
the mac to select it and then press command t
for tap back command r for reply or
command e for edit if it's a message i just
recently sent when nothing is selected these shortcuts
act on the most recent message and
by the way these keyboard shortcuts also work when using
an external keyboard with iphone or ipad however
those devices don't support message selection in the
same way so i don't think you can use the keyboard for these
actions on an older message in a conversation and
he's right i immediately went and messed with
this when i saw the uh the note in our
discord but i also noticed that tap back and reply auto select the most recently
received message even if i've sent things since then so pete if you texted me
something like looking forward to the show tomorrow and i said great if i hit
command t it would choose your your message,
not mine, even though mine is the most recent. Right.
Yep. And, uh, and, but if I highlight my own sent message in,
in that scenario, then the settings, you know, then the commands would apply to that.
So I could tap back my own message or reply to my own message, but I have to select it.
It auto chooses the most recently received one. And I found that pretty interesting.
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All right, Adam, we got a question from Antony here.
He says he came over with you from MacCast and is loving things. I agree.
He says, if I take a photo on my iPhone 15 as a JPEG, then AirDrop it to my
MacBook Pro, open iCloud Photos in Safari, and drag and drop it into a new album
in iCloud, there's no issue. It uploads straight away.
However, if I then take a second photo, taken and saved in Apple's proprietary,
I don't think it's proprietary, but in Apple's HEIF image format,
it gives the following error.
There was a problem uploading one file. Only files in JPEG format can be uploaded.
Why would Apple do this? Any ideas, Adam?
Yep. Great question. And unfortunately, the answer is that according to Apple's
iCloud team, that specific answer could only come really from Apple's iCloud
team, I guess is what I'm trying to say.
But I can confirm via Apple's iCloud support documentation, which we will link
to, that you can only upload JPEG files via the web interface.
So, you know, that's just the way it is. And I can also confirm that HEIF is
not a proprietary Apple format.
As a matter of fact, most browsers are now supporting that format as a web developer.
I noticed this recently. so we use a bunch of services that'll auto convert
yeah uh you know to the fastest most efficient format for browsers and it used
to be webp and now i'm seeing things come across in,
atif oh interesting just kind of cool that is kind of cool yeah huh all right
all right cool all right um well i'm gonna call a little audible here because
i might as well um dean had a question. Adam, you want to take us to Dean?
Sure. Because I think it's kind of related. Dean says, I currently automatically
have my photos go to Google Photos where I grab weekly local backups, the 3-2-1 method.
They are organized by year and by month.
My question is, I'm looking for some software, please not Apple Photos,
that will let me view all folders and photos, thumbnails with an option to open,
and possibly even search for them if possible.
If I had to explain in short, looking for something like Google Photos feature
set, probably not nearly as feature rich, but local software,
I could point to my NAS where my photos are backed up.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Love your show. You guys rock.
Keep up the good work. I'm always listening. Thanks, Dean. We appreciate you always listening.
You know, if Apple Photos isn't your thing, there's something that we've talked
about on this show before, and I've kind of become aware of through some other
channels or reminded of through some other channels, too.
And it's called Melio Photos, M-Y-L-I-O.
And it's like Apple Photos Pro for nerds. It's more advanced than Apple Photos.
It's more complex than Apple Photos. But it is the tool that people who are
frustrated with the limitations of Apple Photos or the user interface of Apple Photos,
this is the one that you might really
like it's certainly worth checking out
and so uh it's at milio.com m-y-l-i-o.com which
of course we will put in the show notes but i i think this is i think it's worth
taking a look at and even if you're not sick of apple photos it might also be
taking worth taking a look at because it you know it does some it does some
things in a flexible way that only a third party could do, right? Like, so...
Have you used Melio? I played around with it.
I'm an Apple Photos guy. You know, iCloud Photo Library, I absolutely love,
and the new sharing features and stuff like that.
So I have no issues with that, but I'm all in on the Apple ecosystem.
Right. But I totally understand people who don't want to be,
and yeah, that was where my head immediately went, was that was the service
that I thought of. Yeah. What's the price point on that?
That's a great question, Pete. They have plans here.
Let's go to the compare plan screen. So there's Melio photos, which is free.
And, and you get price. Yep. You can import everything you want.
You can use their AI powered photo finder engine, photo editing,
sort and organize in, in different spaces that they call them family history, metadata.
And then there is for 10 bucks a month, Melio photos plus, which has all of that.
Plus, uh accessing your library from all of your devices so that cloud service uh dedupe feature,
security with their protection vaults semi-private
albums and sharing of spaces so you know it's it's the the freemium model here
yeah so 10 bucks a month if you want to the cloud features essentially and and
more right yeah thank you for asking that question i i would not have uh i did
not think to to share that.
All right, Pete, speaking of you, you want to take us to Jane?
I can do that. Jane wrote in, and some of it was long, so I'm parrying this
down a little bit, taking some editing license.
But I couldn't edit this first part out. This was a nice theme this week.
Hi, Dave, Pilot Pete, and Adam. Long-time listener, and I thoroughly enjoy your
podcast and all the excellent tips and questions answered.
Thank you, guys. You all work so well together and are a delight to listen to.
Aren't we just? Love it. Thank you. Those are great.
My audio on my Mac thinks we are not a delight to listen to today,
but you know, we'll edit that out for most of you.
Exactly. But we've gotten several emails this week with some nice compliments
and, boy, is it humbling. Thank you, everybody. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Very kind.
She writes, we've stolen some iPhones.
No. We have enabled stolen device protection and are happy it's now available.
However, we're having difficulty finding out why our home is not considered a trusted location.
I spent three hours with Apple Support Senior Advisor, and I have tried a multitude
of solutions, and sadly, none of them work.
Our Wi-Fi signal is good, and we have no issues with connectivity on any of our devices.
And then went through all the troubleshooting steps they tried. ride.
Some of the important ones are, uh, uh, multiple device restarts toggled off
and back on again in Safari and hide my IP and reset location and privacy, which I did.
And once you do that, you have to start re-enabling all the,
yes, let it know my location with every app you open going ahead.
Um, so after all that, the significant locations worked for us for only one
day and we were out and about doing errands, but if not.
Uh, tracked us at all since then, even when we've been out with our phones,
our contact info for our me cards is correct with our address.
I realized the benefits of stolen device protection far outweighs the one hour
way to make specific changes to our devices, like changing the passcode, that sort of thing.
But I'm hoping you can offer me some suggestions so that my home location is
accurate and allows changes to be done without the one hour wait. wait.
So I went in too. And Dave, the Walgreens here in town was a trusted location,
but my home was not, my work was not. And I'm like, oh, that's weird.
So I wiped all that out. What's the time you spend at Walgreens?
Are you recording from Walgreens right now, Pete?
One would think so apparently, because I had spent maybe 10 minutes there picking
up some stuff from my mother about two hours before I started this.
So not, I didn't spend two hours is there.
It had been two hours prior. So I don't know. Look, I went in,
I did all kinds of things.
I went into the system settings and looked, uh, other than Walgreens,
no significant locations were listed. So I cycled the phone off back on.
I opened the maps app. I scrolled down to the favorites and tapped add,
typed in my address, selected it, scrolled down, type, add my home, done all that stuff.
All the things. Yeah. Yeah. Um.
And long and short of it, I then found an article linked to by a gent named
Theo Joe, T-H-I-O-J-O-E on X says, guess what?
You don't get to pick your familiar locations.
You can't set your home or work or any other significant locations where it's safe to make changes.
And the article offers a particular solution. But basically what I've done is
I'm going to eat that hour. I've, I've turned it off and just said, you know what, I get it.
They don't want a thief to be able to, you know, take your phone and,
and, you know, go in the bathroom right there where you're at your place of
work or something like that.
And then make changes before you have a chance to fix it. Yeah.
You know, that, so, but I also said, uh, if Dave or Adam have a different experience,
you know, I'm sure we'll talk about it on the show.
So I don't, I don't know if you guys have, uh, specific locations on either
of your iOS devices or not, or.
I'm, I'm sure I do.
I've, I've seen them before, but. I thought I had two, but it was weird that
my phone and my work were not there.
Cause it always seems to recognize when I'm arriving at work or arriving at home. Yeah.
Location services, system services.
Hang on. Did we cover how to get there?
Yeah, we, it's, it's sorry. Yes. Yes, it's settings, privacy and security,
location services, system services, and then significant locations.
And it's on, I show 144 records and I don't get to see them.
The only thing I see as a recent record is actually my therapist's home slash
office. That's it. I don't have.
I haven't been there in several days. So that's cool.
Yeah, they used to show you, I thought they used to show you the list.
Like I have a similar thing. I've got 62 records. This is on my Mac.
I don't know if it's the same or different on my iOS devices. Yeah. Yeah.
Walmart, which is where I went to do my eye exam.
Right. Of course. As the most recent location. So I was there for, you know, a minute.
But 62 records between December 2023 and January 2024.
So it looks like it's doing about a year's worth of yeah i
know january 23 december of
2023 is last month yeah yeah month a month or
so stuff yeah yeah i i you used to be able to see it all of them you can't i
understand from someone who wrote in and forgive me i didn't log your name in
a way that i can easily refer to you during the show so thank you uh ios 17.4.
Adds more granularity to this
probably specifically because of
the issue that it causes with stolen device protection right you
know i don't want to i don't have to go see my therapist to
unlock my iphone right be a
really kind of funny thing um yeah can
you how does that make you feel exactly your iphone yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i
will say when this came up on the last show i haven't turned it on
yet and i expressed my concerns about this sort of
thing like how incredibly inconvenient
it could be if it didn't work properly yeah so i think
you might and i again i don't have all the details on this but i think 17.4
might not just show you more but also let you configure and set certain things
as significant locations but i i like take a look at it when When 17 four comes out, we will too.
And we'll, we'll talk about it on the show, but yeah. Yeah. I think,
I think one of them on 17 four.
Sorry. I'm sorry. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm pretty sure I'm on 17.4 beta.
And I, again, I hadn't gone anywhere with it. Yeah.
And. Okay. So you are on the beta. And if you go in there, you don't have any other options, right?
It looked like it was, the problem is I hadn't been anywhere after I reset it.
But, um, and of course now I'm using it as my camera, so I can't run it in there
and look, but the, uh, it looked like there was an option.
It was kind of grayed out to see significant locations.
Right right yeah yeah yeah okay well we'll find
out i'm curious to see what happens when you go in there uh a
little bit later real quick i was going to say one way you might be able to crib what your
current locations are is when i get
in the car i think that's what drives uh like your
maps so like if i'm drive away from my house and
i'm getting back in the car maps will suggest like home
if i'm close enough sure as like the place i'm going to
or like when i get in the car are here it's just a lot
of the recent places i've been to you know multiple times within
town so yeah it's always been weird it'll be like oh you
want to go here do you want to go here it's like yeah well i
go there a lot but yeah so yep yep all
right um ready shares a an interesting thing and asked a question in our discord
says um my neighbor who has an iphone and a mac sent sent me a text message yesterday at 1 p.m.
While I was at work away from home, which is where my Mac is.
I did not get that message on my phone though. Today, I logged into my Mac and
saw the notification there.
This happens from time to time and with slightly different circumstances.
My Mac and iPhone are both signed into iCloud under the same account and I only
have one iCloud account.
Are there any settings I can change so that anyone who sends me a text message
will go to all of my Apple devices?
And there was a fantastic conversation in Discord that transpired long before
I even got there, which I love.
And I believe, yeah,
it was Porthos John in Discord who pointed out and advised Ready to check that
the messages on your phone will be received at all the same phone numbers and
emails that are set in your Mac.
And so you do that by going into settings.
Messages which i swear i'll find on my phone eventually
i gotta get out of privacy and security here but uh
yeah go to settings messages and then
send and receive there and you will
see a list of all of presumably your phone
number and then all of the email addresses that are linked to your icloud account
and you can link new ones at icloud.com slash mail i believe Maybe it's just
in your in the sort of the top level of your iCloud account because it doesn't
have to just be the the your iCloud address.
It can like I have my Mac address in there and all of those things.
And you can choose whether or not you will receive messages sent to those email addresses.
And it turned out that ready had turned off all of the email addresses on his
phone. And for whatever reason, his neighbor had his email address as his iMessage
address to which he was sending things.
And so those things would only appear on his Mac where he had all of those things
selected. So it is important.
What's nice is you can, in that same thing, you can choose one of your addresses
to start new conversations from.
And you can choose that to be your phone number or not your phone number.
And there i don't know that there's any
one right answer for that i i
it defaults to your phone number uh so
that's what a lot of people use it's what i use
but i have noticed when i'm traveling internationally or
something it's like oh i wish i had sent it for people to use like my my you
know one of my email addresses although icloud's pretty smart and i'll get it
to your phone even if that That SIM is offline because it knows you're logged
into that iCloud account.
And so your phone number becomes this sort of representation of you,
not your actual, like you don't need that phone online.
So it gets a little weird. But like when my daughter moved to Italy and gave up her U.S.
Phone number and, you know, now she has an Italian phone number for her phone
and she pays $11 a month for 150 gigs of super high speed data,
which is awesome for her.
Maybe 11 euro, but it doesn't really matter. It's cheap.
But she had to teach people how to contact her again, because if you texted
her U.S. phone number or even iMessaged her U.S. phone number,
it would no longer get to her.
So that all needed to happen. So think about those things when you're making
your choice about what do you want to have to deal with in the future.
And just real quick if you're on the Mac the way to get there is you have to
open up messages go to settings and then click on the iMessage tab and then
there's a settings panel in there where you can see the same information yep.
Thank you. Cool. All right. Shall we go to, uh, should we, I mean,
hang on one second. I'm just going to knock on some wood here, Adam.
Yeah. Because, uh, it's been over 10 minutes since my audio has,
uh, reset itself and forced us to have a nice little lag and an edit point in the show.
So I knocked on the wood. Will you take us to Jan or Jan? I always forget Jan. I think it's Jan. Yeah.
We'll say both Jan. Jan says, uh, Does anyone know an iPhone home screen widget
or a shortcut that will allow me to see the Wi-Fi network I am connected to
without having to open up one of the settings apps?
Yeah. Open up the settings app. Yeah, this might be a geek challenge. I like this.
So, again, this came in our MacGeekUp Discord, and there was some discussion about it.
And Jim Has Fun said, you can get this via shortcuts.
Like you can there is a shortcut action for get Wi-Fi networks network name,
and then you can show that.
Right. So a shortcut could do this. And if you have an iPhone 15 pro with the
action button, you can assign that shortcut to the action button.
So all you got to do is hit the action button and it shows it to you.
But that's a little bit tedious. is you can also
save a shortcut to your iphone home
screen if you want to just tap it and do that you can
of course pull down from the right upper right
hand corner of your iphone to pull down control center
and see the wi-fi network
name because it's going to show it there but there's no
way to just have it displayed on your
phone that i have found although like
i i looked in widget smith the third-party app
that does a lot of cool things with widgets and if you
haven't checked out widget smith i highly recommend it but
um they they don't have a particular widget for
showing your wi-fi network name you could request it as a feature um but like
i feel like we're close to like you could run a shortcut every 10 minutes that
went and grabbed it and stuffed it into a variable somewhere and then you know
could you somehow update your like i i feel I feel like we're really close.
I don't know. What do you think, Adam? Do you have any thoughts on like how
we can get there with the data that we know we have?
No, but I mean, it sounds like something that somebody could probably quickly
write as a widget. Like, I don't know.
We need a developer to just make it. Yeah, but that's you!
Maybe it is me. I'm thinking about it now. It's like, oh, I've never tried to
make a widget. I wonder what's involved.
I might look into it. Yeah. Yeah, no. I mean, it seems like an obvious thing.
It'd be interesting that no one... It's interesting to me that no one's done
a Wi-Fi widget that would show Wi-Fi details on a widget. But maybe that's a
security thing. I don't know.
I'd have to do some research. Hang on.
Is there a Wi-Fi widget? Wi-Fi man adds iOS for this is from 2020,
an article I found at iMore.
Wi-Fi man adds iOS 14 widgets that show your Wi-Fi usage on your home screen.
Does it show you view usage data per SSID?
So maybe I don't know.
We'll put a link to Wi-Fi man in there to remind both us and you to to check that out.
Uh why why not have widget that shows your ssid what
you're connected to the data rates that
you're getting currently and like your ip your
ip address that would be amazing like i
i could see that being helpful sure right yeah
all right well while you were talking i muted my
mic and i said s lady what wi-fi network am i on and she goes i can't help you
with that on the apple watch i'm like because again my phone's being used as
a camera but i thought well you know because i was thinking you could set up
a shortcut where the action button on your watch ultra would bring that information
up let me try it and my apologies Siri what Wi-Fi network am I on.
Let's see it just shows me that I am connected to Wi-Fi and it would let me
turn it off but it does not like it pulls down a widget I've never seen before,
and that oh come on Siri that that just shows I can turn Wi-Fi on and off but
it doesn't show me any details so cool.
All right. Where are we on time and time? I think it's time to,
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And now let's go to some cool stuff found.
Adam, you want to tell us about this thing you got?
Yeah, a couple. It was like, oh, we're going to do that? Cool stuff found?
Yeah, we're going to do...
Were we going to do the cff uh oh yeah pick one arc field yeah it's all good,
it really doesn't matter i got thrown off and now the
air raid siren's going off so yeah so i
have had an apple watch for a long time and you know
more recently i started wanting to do the sleep tracking thing so i've been
sleeping with my apple watch but that means when i get up in the morning the
battery is about 20 25 usually um from the previous day And so I have a stand
next to my nightstand where I put my Apple Watch and things to charge,
but I'm not putting it there at night.
Get up in the morning and I would be in my office and sure enough,
my Apple Watch would go dead. So I wanted to get a little charging stand for my office.
And so I did some searching around on Amazon and I found the Spygen,
Spegen, however you say it, Arcfield watch stand. And it's a simple little watch stand.
It's integrated in terms of the little charging puck,
but it's 100% Apple Watch compatible so it's
like official a little more on the expensive side because
of that um and it's a nice little stand and it's
like perfect it comes with little uh risers depending upon
the size of your um apple watch that little
inserts you put in so it'll put it at the correct right angle it
sits horizontally so you get the cool you know like
the time displays as it's charging and you can press the nightstand mode
yeah the night nightstand mode so it works with that it does
have an integrated cable which is not always my favorite thing so like you know
the cable's non-detachable yep but in this case you don't really move it around
so that doesn't bother me as much you know I worry about the cable breaking
and then I gotta get a whole new thing sure that's maybe not the best part of it but yeah.
The other thing that happened was I was sitting here, and I had my AirPods,
and those needed to charge.
And I went, you know, I wonder if I could throw my AirPods on there, my AirPods Pro.
Sure enough, I put the charging case on there. It locked in with a magnet and
went ding, and started charging those too.
And I have the first gens, so I thought that was a second-gen version.
Yeah, we were talking about that pre-show.
I agree with you. I thought it was only the second gens that would charge on
the Watch Puck and not the first gens.
But evident you didn't replace your case right your
case is oh no yeah not at all yeah original case
so it all worked and it's a nice little compact stand it's nicely
weighted on the bottom so it's got good heavy weights
weight to it so when you lift things off it stuff doesn't
go flying um it i think the
price on the website was about 54 bucks i think i
paid less on amazon okay we'll find an
amazon link for that for sure okay yeah but maybe i
did you know again it's the official box so we were
talking about the licensing and all that that costs extra right so
all right well i will share the next thing here oh no
go ahead yeah go ahead sorry you were someone was sharing
the mag go yeah yeah that's the next thing i was going to
talk about here so i was prepping things and pete started pete
jumped the gun that's totally fine totally producing the
show too early early go go no so i i
have a an a an admission to make
uh i i must share because just
two weeks ago whatever the episode was that we
recorded right before ces somebody wrote in and said what's the
best travel charger three-way travel charger that i can use for my iphone and
watch and airpods while i'm traveling and put them all on the you know magsafe
and all that stuff And I sat here and said what I firmly believed in the moment,
and I still kind of believe.
Is that a cable is what I use when I travel because it's the best way to ensure
that you're not going to wake up with a dead phone in the morning. And then...
We started going and seeing all of the cool stuff at CES, and we ran into the
folks at Anchor early on in our journeys there.
And they had what they call the Anchor MagGo wireless charging station.
And they gave me one to experiment with while at CES.
And from that moment forward, every night at CES, this is the only thing I used.
And it is a three-in-one thing. thing
it's about the size like like two dimensions
of it are about the size of a credit card it is much thicker
than that it's about the thickness of two iphones when
it's all collapsed but it is foldable and
uh it it has the not magsafe
but chi 2 uh pad which
is essentially magsafe so it's got a chi 2 pad for your
phone it's got a chi pad
for your airpods kind of inside it when you
lift up the chi pad for your phone and then it's
got a little watch puck that sort of flips out the back
of it so you've got this really compact thing where
you can charge your watch your phone and your airpods all at
the same time it does have a detachable cable it's a usbc so
i just used the usbc cable that was right there that i already had on my uh
you know set up on my bedside table in the hotel room and i just plugged that
in and everything worked great and because it's chi 2 and not MagSafe,
it's a little bit cheaper than the 3-in-1s that you would pay for when it was
MagSafe because the 3-in-1, this is $110.
Which is not inexpensive.
But if it were MagSafe paying the Apple licensing fees and all of that,
you would be paying $150 for it like all the other MagSafe ones.
So yay, Chi-2, the price. I mean, you still have to pay for Chi-2 certification,
but at least it's slightly less. So there you go.
Dave, that's to be about the size of a deck of cards. About the size of a deck
of cards. That's really the right way to put it. A little thicker,
yeah. A little thicker. Deck and a half of cards.
Yeah, exactly. Close to the dimensions for sure. Yeah, that's a great way of saying it. Yep.
That's nice. Yeah, it's awesome. The question I had is that that picture shows
a USB-C cable and a wall wart.
Yep. Is that included or are they just showing that in the Amazon?
No it is included you get the the the
the deck of cards and the
usbc cable which theirs comes with a
little right angle on it which is nice and then of course
the um the wall wart that that powers it if you you can use it with any wall
wart obviously that's providing enough power but yeah but that's like i mean
i'm just thinking that's like another 30 bucks worth of stuff that's fair yeah
you're absolutely right the
price yeah yeah yeah yeah no that all comes Mine didn't come with that,
so I had to get another wall plug or whatever.
That's a really fair plug. $20, $30 for a cable. Yep. Yep.
All right, Pete, you got a cool stuff found to share with us for today?
I do. The Chipolo card, perfectly imperfect card.
It's about the size of a credit card, slightly thicker, and so fits in your
wallet and works with Apple Find My.
And boy, I got one at CES, and I stuck it in my wallet, and boy,
was I glad to have that. Because going through security in Mumbai,
India, you pull everything.
Did I say everything? I meant everything comes out of your bag.
Oh. Except for your clothes.
Anything with a wire, all the chargers, all the cables, all got to come out and go in the bucket.
So needless to say, that takes me a little bit of time since I travel with podcasting
equipment. Yeah, right.
So I'm rushing and I'm trying to get it all back. because there's people standing
behind me waiting for this idiot to get his stuff back in his bag and so i'm
trying to get it all in there and i just take i have this uh wallet that i have my.
Pilot's license my medical all the stuff that allows me to fly legally all over
the world and i then my passport goes in there too well i had stuck my passport
in my breast pocket because i I need to show that to walk through the security screener.
And I just quickly stuck the wallet into one of the pockets in my suitcase, which I never do.
I'm very, you know, I can wake up in the middle of the night and go find,
you know, a Tums. I know what pocket it's in.
I know I don't have to turn on the lights on. I can do all that.
Yeah, of course. Well, I could not find my wallet anywhere. And I'm like,
oh crap, did I leave it at security?
Yeah. And it's like, oh, I'm going to have to get off this airplane and go back
to security because I cannot legally fly. and I don't need to land in Singapore
and get ramp checked and not have my licenses and be hauled off to the hokey pokey.
Yeah, you don't want to do that. I've heard they might like lop your hand off
for that. Yeah, well, at least smack you with a cane a few times. Yeah.
So I'm like, oh my God. And then at the last minute I went, oh,
I've got the Chipolo card.
So I pulled up my phone and I ran and I heard it. I went, ah,
it's in my bag somewhere. I'm good to go. Sat down and, and.
Dug it out when we landed in Dubai. That's cool. And you mentioned that this
is the perfectly imperfect edition of what the product is called the Chipolo card spot.
It's a find my card as you just articulated.
The perfectly imperfect version or edition is because they had some manufacturing
errors that caused some cosmetic blemishes on these things.
And instead of throwing them away, they thought, well, let's just embrace it.
And they came up with this cool script logo of perfectly imperfect.
Perfect and uh they say it is almost black
i think that was one of the problems is it came out
more charcoal gray than uh than anyone anticipated
but instead of throwing them away they sell them
for 35 bucks on their website which is a little bit less than they were going
to sell them for otherwise so yeah yeah and then uh and that was it it was embrace
your imperfections yeah then actually at ces they had to say they had us write
our our imperfections on the board that's right Right. Yeah.
And someone had, I'm lazy.
And I wrote, I'm lazier. And someone said, well, they can come along and say
I'm laziest. I said, I would have written that, but it was too many letters.
That was fun. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll put that,
uh, we'll put that in the show notes, Adam.
I know we are running tight on time here, but this one I think is timely and important.
So you want to share what Bill shared with us?
Yeah. Bill sent me this this really cool thing. And unfortunately this was a
live event, missed it. Uh, it was Apple's insanely great Apple Mac at 40 event.
Cause recently the Apple Macintosh turned 40 and the computer history museum
held this event with a bunch of the original Mac team and did an interview and all that sort of stuff.
Um, it was live and we were going to talk about this.
It happened on January 24th, live streamed. I totally missed it.
I didn't have time to tune into it. And I was hoping it would show up on their
YouTube channel. And sure enough, now it has.
So you can go to youtube.com slash computer history.
And it is in their videos there on YouTube. So you can watch the whole thing
in its entirety. And that's really cool.
It's yeah, I have. I started watching it. I've actually got it.
I used the command line tool YT dash DLP to save that YouTube video to my iPad
to my Plex library, which now on my iPad so I can watch it on the plane to Mexico
in a few weeks. And that it's about two hours long.
So give yourself some time. But yeah, David Pogue hosted it.
A lot of the original Mac design team is there being interviewed.
Very similar, it seems on the surface anyway, to what we did 10 years ago at
the Mac 30th event, which was held at the Flint Center, which was cool.
The Macworld All-Star Band played at that event, and it was cool being on stage
with an original Mac on the little podium in the corner, just like it was when
it was first announced 40 years ago.
But yeah, I'm looking forward to watching this. There's also an exhibit at the
Computer History Museum that's on display for the next month.
So if you are in or around San Francisco, you can go to it. But if you can't
visit the website where they show some of the things and have some of the pictures
of some of the artifacts and that sort of thing, uh, right there on, uh, on the web for us.
So links to all of these things, including the YouTuber in the show notes. Yeah.
That book you just scrolled by is just amazing to the, um, which book,
how the Mac was made, how the Mac was made.
Oh, sorry. Revolution in the Valley. Yeah.
Yeah, that was Andy Hurt's film. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yep.
Great book. I have that in my library. I love that book. I don't know that I've ever read this book.
So we are putting a link to that in the show notes too, my friend.
It's a collection of short stories about different events.
There's a great piece about rounded rectangles about the day that Steve Jobs,
him and Steve Steve Jobs were walking down the street and Steve,
you know, talked about rounded rectangles.
And then he went back after that and then made rounded rectangles on everything on the Mac. Oh, yeah.
I think I've read some of these stories. Now, that one doesn't sound familiar, but yeah.
All right. There's also a podcast that he did or he allowed someone to do that
are those stories. It's like archive.org or something.
I think his site is archive.org, but there is a podcast that has them just like that read out. too.
Cool. Thank you for that. That's great. Thank you for that, Bill.
Thanks, everybody, for all of the great, cool stuff that you sent in,
all your great questions and your tips.
And thanks to the audio gods for only letting us have two instances of audio
death so far. Hang on. Knock on wood.
But we survived the audio death, so there you go. We got caught, Dave. We did get caught.
It's interesting. thing, it's where Core Audio just resets all the devices very
quickly on my Mac, but it causes a few things to just go haywire and need sort
of a manual nudge that takes all of about 30 or 40 seconds to do.
I've seen this happen before, never this frequently though, so I wish it would
happen in a sense more frequently so that I could troubleshoot it and figure out what's going on.
Until then, We just keep our fingers crossed. We knock on wood.
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Thanks for all your kind compliments and comments.
We lead charmed lives here. Absolutely. Pete, what's your shirt say?
Well, in English it says don't get caught. In German it says...
Lass dich nicht erwischen.
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Made on a Mac.
Who made it and we're out just in time oh my god it just went away,
like literally just went away can you guys hear me no yeah we can hear you okay
it it like something happened again but this time i didn't lose like logic didn't
get lost so yeah all right now we're really gonna leave.