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Speaker 1: We have done so much cool research over the years,
Speaker 1: and we make no secret that there's often a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff we don't get to in the course of
Speaker 1: one episode or another. But we're we're just sponges for
Speaker 1: all the ridiculous, strange stories of people, places and events
Speaker 1: throughout human history. So we we end up saving all
Speaker 1: of this. We hoard these weird stories, and we decided
Speaker 1: a while back that we're going to make a series
Speaker 1: of all the stuff that got left over in a
Speaker 1: burst of creativity. We call it the Stuff that Got
Speaker 1: left Over, And this is part two of that series.
Speaker 1: And Noel scrolling through our our research nibs, our odds.
Speaker 2: And snippets, so we keep all the snippets there we go.
Speaker 2: I think we we found some stuff that we just
Speaker 2: we just could not leave off the air. I don't
Speaker 2: know where should we begin. Oh, how about Stan huge
Speaker 2: Ol the last Shantiman. Yes, indeed, I don't know what
Speaker 2: a chancy mean. I'm assuming we're talking about sea shanty's
Speaker 2: or I don't know.
Speaker 3: We are, So I gotta jump in here real quick,
Speaker 3: because Stan hue Gill or I don't actually know how
Speaker 3: the last name is pronounced. I've been saying Hugh gill
Speaker 3: for years. He is someone I've been trying to do
Speaker 3: some sort of podcast episode about for forever. The problem
Speaker 3: is there's like a couple out of print works of his,
Speaker 3: and there's like a BBC obituary of him, and that's
Speaker 3: about it. But he's this interesting story where there is
Speaker 3: a chance that every sea shanty that we know today
Speaker 3: is because this guy kept track of him.
Speaker 2: I think I've mentioned before that I felt woefully excluded
Speaker 2: from the sea shanty trend, like I didn't find out
Speaker 2: about it until later. It's just one of those things
Speaker 2: that just sort of passed me by. I don't know why.
Speaker 2: But then we you know, we've talked about on the
Speaker 2: show multiple times that you and our buddy Matt Frederick
Speaker 2: had a nice sea shanty moments in southern California and
Speaker 2: we were traveling together. We all maybe were a few
Speaker 2: sheets to the wind, and we hung out on a
Speaker 2: corner and her mossa beach and sang what is it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Soon made the Willeman come awful.
Speaker 1: We called them, We decided to call them street shanties.
Speaker 1: I think that was back when when we were all
Speaker 1: three of us a bit more fond of tipples than
Speaker 1: we are presently, and we we had a wholesome time.
Speaker 1: It was oh boy did it was celebratory and uh,
Speaker 1: you know it being southern California, it was surprising to
Speaker 1: me how people passing by would give us kind of
Speaker 1: an improving nod. No one like, no one joined us
Speaker 1: to be sure, to be certain, but people could. I
Speaker 1: think our wholesome inner buzz energy was contagious. And it
Speaker 1: turns out, as our pal Max indicated earlier, that we
Speaker 1: owe a lot of this to a guy named Stan
Speaker 1: Hugil or Hugil. This topic started as one for a
Speaker 1: beautiful show that really shows us the potential of podcasting
Speaker 1: called Ephemeral, that Max and Alex and several other of
Speaker 1: our colleagues made available today. By the way you can listen,
Speaker 1: you'll hear all sorts of familiar voices popping in and
Speaker 1: out of various episodes. And like Max said, it's tough
Speaker 1: to find research on our pal Stan. There really isn't
Speaker 1: too much out there about him. Those out of print
Speaker 1: books are incredibly difficult to find. But we thought we'd
Speaker 1: give Stan his flowers or his his shanty credits. The
Speaker 1: shantyman shance be denied. Let's learn a little bit more cants.
Speaker 1: He can't can't, No, he can't be denied.
Speaker 2: Simon Moffatt is an expert on this fellow and wrote
Speaker 2: a really cool article for the BBC called The Last Shantyman,
Speaker 2: where he says it should come as no surprise that
Speaker 2: the king of the Sea Shanty, the legendary Stan Hugle,
Speaker 2: came from Merseyside. And you know, I saw Mercyside and
Speaker 2: it made me think of a popular I think music
Speaker 2: publication that ended up kind of becoming the name of
Speaker 2: a genre, mercy beat, which is kind of the proto
Speaker 2: sound of like bands like the Beatles. So mercy Beat
Speaker 2: was sort of this like folky kind of type of vibe,
Speaker 2: and it sort of evolved into you know what we
Speaker 2: know as some of the British invasion kind of sounds.
Speaker 2: But Mercy refers to the River Mercy, and Liverpool, of
Speaker 2: course is where the Beatles are from, is on the
Speaker 2: eastern side of the river's estuary.
Speaker 1: And this this idea of a sea shanty for anybody who,
Speaker 1: like us, missed the original wave of resurgence. I'm not
Speaker 1: taking it back. Let's explain what c shanties are. These
Speaker 1: are work songs. They have a lot in common with
Speaker 1: maybe songs that people would sing when they are doing
Speaker 1: agricultural work in fields or in prison labor, which is.
Speaker 2: Much more grizzled.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so what you would do is you'd be sailing
Speaker 1: in the eighteen hundreds or the early twentieth century, and
Speaker 1: you have a lot of hard, repetitive, difficult work involved
Speaker 1: just to keep a sailing vessel on the move. Liverpool
Speaker 1: figured prominently in a lot of these shanties, as are
Speaker 1: pal Moffatt tells us, because most of the crew of
Speaker 1: these ships either came from that city or passed through
Speaker 1: it at some point. Now, Stan who was born in
Speaker 1: Hoylake in nineteen oh six became the sort of.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say gatekeeper because I don't like
Speaker 2: that connotation, but he became the great aggregator, the great collector.
Speaker 1: Of this tradition. And who was that guy in the
Speaker 1: US who collected all those traditional songs in the world
Speaker 1: of folklore?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, you know who I'm talking about. It was
Speaker 2: brothers Lomax Yeah and his brother Yeah, brother as well.
Speaker 1: A free sea shanty, do you sir? Congratulations, Yes, the Lomaxes.
Speaker 1: So our buddy Stan first goes to see when he's
Speaker 1: just sixteen years old in nineteen twenty two. It's not
Speaker 1: uncommon to get involved in that industry at that age,
Speaker 1: even earlier. To be honest, he spent more than two
Speaker 1: decades working on the seas before he retired in nineteen
Speaker 1: forty five, and according to the experts, he is the
Speaker 1: last shantyman to sail on the last British commercial sailing ship,
Speaker 1: which was called the garth Pool. Ah, the garth Pool.
Speaker 2: But despite you know, you can take the man out
Speaker 2: of the sea, but you can't take the sea shanty
Speaker 2: out of the man. He is love of the sea,
Speaker 2: never wane for an instant, and he became sort of
Speaker 2: a like he said, ben like, kind of like a
Speaker 2: vanguard of this oral tradition. He became an instructor of
Speaker 2: an outward bound sea school and a marine artist and
Speaker 2: produced actually a lot of paintings as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he made Yeah, he made over two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty oil paintings of ships and sea landscapes or
Speaker 1: sea scapes. I should say. He also was a prolific author.
Speaker 1: He wrote five different books on sea shanties. Those are
Speaker 1: very specific books. And he made a lot of appearances
Speaker 1: on radio and television. He was also, to our earlier
Speaker 1: conversation about translations, he was also a polyglot. He was
Speaker 1: fluent in Spanish. Okay, good, that's an achievement. But he's
Speaker 1: even more impressive to note he was fluent in Japanese,
Speaker 1: and he spoke malte yeah, and Chinese and Maori because
Speaker 1: he was sailing around all the time, and you know,
Speaker 1: in at least some of those legs of work, his
Speaker 1: shipmates probably spoke these languages, which is the best way.
Speaker 2: To learn one. I was about to say, it just
Speaker 2: comes from being around it, being sort of steeped in
Speaker 2: it through his travels. He knew various dialects of Polynesian.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know that was a thing. But it
Speaker 2: is this sort of honorific of being the last shantyman
Speaker 2: that he will largely, you know, his legacy kind of
Speaker 2: rests on and this article, you know, kind of collects
Speaker 2: in the spirit of the oral tradition. A lot of folks,
Speaker 2: you know, who are kind of part of this community,
Speaker 2: you know, which is a little bit niche you know,
Speaker 2: this is the shanty community. And Jack Coots is one
Speaker 2: of them, who is originally from Dundee but now resides
Speaker 2: in Liverpool, and he sings with a group based out
Speaker 2: of Merseyside called Storm Along John. I'm really waiting for
Speaker 2: it to have and the something something, but it's okay.
Speaker 3: It's Hugh Gills and stuff.
Speaker 1: When Storm Along John and the Albatross Boys would be
Speaker 1: a gag reference. It's crazy because everybody in the sort
Speaker 1: of sea shanty uvou knows of Stan, and Jack says
Speaker 1: the following. He says, Stan was a legend. Literally he
Speaker 1: wrote the Bible as far as shanty singers are concerned,
Speaker 1: and Jack recalls he traveled to Krackau in Poland with
Speaker 1: Storm Along John and Stan when Stan was already in
Speaker 1: his eighties and he saw Stan the Man himself entertain
Speaker 1: an audience of more than a thousand people much younger
Speaker 1: than him, by the way, with his shanties, which apparently
Speaker 1: still slap to the point about the resurgence of Sea
Speaker 1: Shanty's a few years back, which which we relate to.
Speaker 1: I got to tell you, guys, my favorite parody shanty
Speaker 1: comes from the Trailer Park Boys, remember them, the Canadian.
Speaker 2: Huge fan I don't think I'm remembering a Sea Shanty episode,
Speaker 2: though I might have missed that one else.
Speaker 1: I think they just filmed it for kicks because they
Speaker 1: are out all actually friends outside of the show. And
Speaker 1: the guy with the coke bottle glass is Bubbles. Bubbles, Yeah,
Speaker 1: actually has a really good voice, singing voice, and they
Speaker 1: have a sea shanty entirely about kitties.
Speaker 2: You know. He loves the kiddies and Bubbles I forget
Speaker 2: the actor's name, He's just Bubbles to me, actually has
Speaker 2: a touring band called Bubbles and the Shit Rockers, and
Speaker 2: they are supposed to be coming to Atlanta. There's someone
Speaker 2: that I met through podcasting in the past who's Canadian,
Speaker 2: because they're Canadian, and he actually plays second guitar in
Speaker 2: the Shit Rockers. So I really hope to let you
Speaker 2: guys know when Bubbles and the Shit Rockers are coming
Speaker 2: through Atlanta. I mean, we can all go check it out.
Speaker 1: And back to our friend the legend stand. Stan sadly
Speaker 1: passed away in nineteen ninety two and Aberstwyth in Wales,
Speaker 1: and he was in his pretty humble abode to up
Speaker 1: to down cottage, two rooms on the upstairs, two rooms
Speaker 1: on downstairs, and by that point it had become a
Speaker 1: living museum for marine historians, shanty singers, and fans of
Speaker 1: shanty music. And you can still find some of his
Speaker 1: shanty books, but they are out of print. Just to
Speaker 1: be clear, most people will tell you that the majority
Speaker 1: of sea shanties, if not all, of the traditional sea
Speaker 1: shanties we know today, come to us thanks to Stan
Speaker 1: and his lifelong work preserving this bit of history.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense. I mean these would have kind
Speaker 2: of existed spontaneously in these very isolated, you know, kind
Speaker 2: of niche groups of folks. Unless he has someone making
Speaker 2: a conscious effort to preserve them, they probably would have
Speaker 2: just kind of, you know, be been ephemeral. You know,
Speaker 2: it's just sort of what their very nature was. And
Speaker 2: you also have to wonder too, like how many of
Speaker 2: these did he write? How many of these was he
Speaker 2: sort of tweaking based on versions of them that he'd heard,
Speaker 2: you know, here again, editing and translation kind of comes
Speaker 2: into the picture here because it's all about what was
Speaker 2: the spirit of the sea shanty? Did he take a
Speaker 2: little creative liberty with them? You know, I'm curious, but
Speaker 2: we'll probably never really know.
Speaker 3: Also, one other crazy fact I could not get any
Speaker 3: confirmation from this, So this is from the Wikipedia article
Speaker 3: about San Hugill. Once again, there's not that much right
Speaker 3: about it. He was a prisoner of war in World
Speaker 3: War two for four and a half years.
Speaker 2: Jesus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, there's only one sentence in the Wikipedia article
Speaker 3: about that too, so there's no more reference.
Speaker 2: But I did want to throw that in.
Speaker 1: You can understand why he might not want to talk
Speaker 1: about that too much, right, But there's this brings us
Speaker 1: to another another thing that got left over from previous episode.
Speaker 1: In August of twenty twenty two, we had a follow
Speaker 1: up conversation speaking niche interests. We were very taken at
Speaker 1: the time with presidential pets. We talked about how Abe Lincoln,
Speaker 1: most famous for being an amateur wrestler, of course loved.
Speaker 2: Cats, but got to go reach on it. Yeah he
Speaker 2: had the reach.
Speaker 1: But we didn't get to talk about William Howard Taft,
Speaker 1: who had some unusual pets. He really was into cows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mooy woolly, not to be confused with Wooly Bully,
Speaker 2: which is a sixties song. Yeah, with very deep lyrics
Speaker 2: watch He'll Get You So. Taft was as if you
Speaker 2: may or may not know the twenty seventh president of
Speaker 2: these United States. During his time in the White House,
Speaker 2: he was at a reputation, like you said, for having
Speaker 2: some kind of quirky pets around, specifically cows. He did
Speaker 2: have a more traditional pet than a dog, but he
Speaker 2: also had two cows that are regularly listed uh in
Speaker 2: the presidential account of his pets. We have Wooly Molly
Speaker 2: and Pauline. Yes, no, mooly wooly. See it's really easy
Speaker 2: to mix those up. Mooly mooly. Is it a molie
Speaker 2: It must be a move mooly wooly, or maybe is
Speaker 2: it mooly wooly. That's complicated, Moulli Wally Molly wooly. That's
Speaker 2: what we make goal. Why wool why they pronounce it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: of course the much more standard polly.
Speaker 1: So of course Taft has a first lady. It's his wife,
Speaker 1: Helen Taft, popularly known as Nelly. And when they go
Speaker 1: to the White House they take their children. They also
Speaker 1: take Moolly Wooly, and it's a bit controversial, but the
Speaker 1: boffins and the legislators look around and they say, hey,
Speaker 1: there are no ordinances against it. There are no laws,
Speaker 1: there are no local regulations. So they let let this
Speaker 1: cow out to graze on the south lawn of the
Speaker 1: White House.
Speaker 2: Also, as the president man, if he wants to have
Speaker 2: cows on the lawn, he's going to figure out a
Speaker 2: way to have cows on the lawn, you know, specifically
Speaker 2: the south lawn. Yeah, yeah, But also we'd be munched
Speaker 2: away at grass.
Speaker 1: We have to point out too that the there was
Speaker 1: definitely propaganda and political points scoring at this time, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't like the age of the internet now, you know,
Speaker 1: Now a president could get excoriated for wearing a suit
Speaker 1: that is seen as an inappropriate color. If a president
Speaker 1: now bought a cow to the White House, there would
Speaker 1: be a huge to do on social medium. It's a
Speaker 1: different time. But we have to go to some research
Speaker 1: by Molly Maijior Warethheimer in her book Inventing a Voice,
Speaker 1: The Rhetoric of American First Ladies of the twentieth century.
Speaker 1: She said that Nellie Taff played a big role in
Speaker 1: having cattle at the White House because she was trying
Speaker 1: to get the First Family out of the horse and
Speaker 1: buggy era. And yeah, so Nellie looks at the prices
Speaker 1: of automobiles and she says this through the roof, it's
Speaker 1: bad financial decision. And she goes, Okay, look, if you
Speaker 1: give us a discount, we will allow auto manufacturers to
Speaker 1: advertise at the White House. And she's still kind of
Speaker 1: troubled by the cost, so she looks for other ways
Speaker 1: to save money for the First Family and for the nation.
Speaker 1: And adding a cow was actually part of their plan
Speaker 1: to be thrifty because they could use Molly Wooli's milk
Speaker 1: and butter at the White House. So you know, this
Speaker 1: way before the farm to table movement, This was just
Speaker 1: when that was a legitimate reality.
Speaker 2: Well, not only is it thrifty, but it's delicious. You know,
Speaker 2: I can't beat the fresh stuff you really can't. But
Speaker 2: didn't she also allow the auto manufacturers to like advertise, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's at the White House. I don't understand what that
Speaker 2: consists of, like put a billboard. It's like, what are
Speaker 2: we talking. She just perhaps hosted events for them, or
Speaker 2: it could be a couple of things. It could be
Speaker 2: a lot, It could be up to hosting events. I mean,
Speaker 2: it wasn't something as tacky as a big banner in front,
Speaker 2: like at the front door.
Speaker 1: But you could also see advertising as access, like allowing
Speaker 1: auto manufacturers into into formal events where they can maybe
Speaker 1: talk about the American automobile and its advantages. That that's
Speaker 1: the kind of advertising that will be tremendously powerful. But
Speaker 1: the thing is thinking out of the box. Yes, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: It's part of American innovation. The problem was that Mooly
Speaker 1: Woolley apparently never quite made enough milk or you know,
Speaker 1: in the later butter to satisfy the needs of the family.
Speaker 1: At this point, without body shaming, we do have to
Speaker 1: we do have to mention that Molly ware Timer in
Speaker 1: her book says that Taft weighed around three hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty pounds, so he might have wanted more milk and butter.
Speaker 2: Than you mean more milk and butter. Yeah, I'm totally
Speaker 2: I could get out of this by myself exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a true story.
Speaker 3: But now they have a really large bathtub in the
Speaker 3: White House.
Speaker 2: See win win. And so what about Pauline the cow?
Speaker 2: Sources reports that Pauline was brought in to replace Mooly Wooly,
Speaker 2: but there are other sources that say the moe Wooly
Speaker 2: unfortunately passed away due to an overabundance of oats, overindulging
Speaker 2: in oats two years earlier, in nineteen ten, it tasted
Speaker 2: previous cow Mooly Wooly. This is the quote here, did
Speaker 2: in fact die after eating too many oats. She had
Speaker 2: never been instructed by experts that oats are for horses.
Speaker 2: Dang it, Mooly Wooly. If only someone had told you,
Speaker 2: I know this, I thought hey was for horses. Oh boy.
Speaker 1: Uh Well, the Washington Evening Star publishes something like you obituary,
Speaker 1: but it's a bit tongue in cheek and they say
Speaker 1: poor moly Wooly. But still a presidential pet is it
Speaker 1: is an accolade that most animals cannot attest. To and
Speaker 1: we can say confidently that these two cows probably had
Speaker 1: a better life than most of the other cows in
Speaker 1: America than and today.
Speaker 2: So let's pivot from from presidential cows to hot tubs,
Speaker 2: the flurry, flurry of activity, the bubbling waters, natural segue, right,
Speaker 2: those two these topics followed Actually yeah, October twentieth, there
Speaker 2: we got okay, yeah, good save No October twenty twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two. We talked about hot tubs. We talked about
Speaker 2: the history of hot tubs, and then we started talking
Speaker 2: about very cool, super posh or stunning hot tubs that
Speaker 2: none of your faithful correspondence it can afford to go to. Now,
Speaker 2: just to be honest with you, like we make our
Speaker 2: livy doing podcasting, and Nolan and I have various side gigs,
Speaker 2: but we're not quite in the echelon of people who
Speaker 2: go to hot tubs like the observatory at Alta Lakes
Speaker 2: and tell you Right, Colorado. They don't invite us to
Speaker 2: the hot tubs at Davos yet, you know, yeah, no, yet,
Speaker 2: tell you Ride does seem like a beautiful place. I've
Speaker 2: really never been to Colorado at all, but I have
Speaker 2: heard tell Your Right is beautiful and they have a
Speaker 2: film festival there called the Tell You Right Film Festival.
Speaker 2: But the Observe I mean, I'm sure this Observatory at
Speaker 2: Alta Lakes is highly trafficked by film festival goers of
Speaker 2: the upper echelons. The Observative tat Alta Lakes is a
Speaker 2: super posh lodge just outside tell of Yourrides ski boundary
Speaker 2: area that you can only get to by snowmobile or
Speaker 2: on skis because it's like Overlook Hotel in the winter style,
Speaker 2: you know, as no access via road because it just
Speaker 2: gets totally snowed over.
Speaker 1: And we also know that if you go there you
Speaker 1: will have some fantastic skiing opportunities right outside your door.
Speaker 1: You can also hire a guide from the local San
Speaker 1: Juan Outdoor Adventures company to show you the lay of
Speaker 1: the land. In summer, you can climb these thirteen thousand
Speaker 1: foot peaks. There are these amazing mountain bike trails right
Speaker 1: from the lodge. But the best part of it, as
Speaker 1: advertised often is the view of the San Juans from
Speaker 1: the decks outdoor hot tub.
Speaker 2: Now, I'll tell you you know what rich people love
Speaker 2: for vacation spots. What's that inaccessible places? God yeah, because
Speaker 2: you can only get there via snowmobile, a helicopter like
Speaker 2: jet pack.
Speaker 1: You can only you can only reach this exclusive grotto
Speaker 1: in a magic boat where you have to answer three
Speaker 1: questions from a gnome and then and they can only
Speaker 1: happen in like the eclipse times.
Speaker 2: How else are they going to keep the riff raff out?
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's it's understandable.
Speaker 1: I've been you know, you guys know I've been in
Speaker 1: those situations, and it's weird because once you get to
Speaker 1: those places. I'll be completely honest, Once you get to
Speaker 1: those places, a lot of it feels like people trying
Speaker 1: to justify why they're there and trying to make things
Speaker 1: feel maybe a little more fun than they are because
Speaker 1: you really are in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2: Well you know, we're sort of ragging on the super
Speaker 2: wealthy here a little bit. But this place, when you
Speaker 2: actually do the math, if you had enough pals not
Speaker 2: insane considering it's I think two thousand bucks a night
Speaker 2: and it will accommodate up to twelve guests. It's only
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty six bucks a night, you know,
Speaker 2: per guests. I mean that's hell. You can't get a
Speaker 2: holiday in for that price.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is not the only cool hot tub.
Speaker 1: We've got two others we wanted to mention. There's the
Speaker 1: Puma Lodge in Chile, and in twenty fifteen a company
Speaker 1: named Earth River Expeditions began offering lodge to lodge trips
Speaker 1: down Chile's legendary Futa Lufa River. You spend nine days
Speaker 1: rafting through some pretty intense whitewater Class four and Class five,
Speaker 1: and you sleep in these deluxe, primo accommodations each night.
Speaker 1: The remote Puma Lodge, which will be the home base
Speaker 1: for two nights, has a wood fired outdoor tub super high, sure, classy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: wood fire tub just seems so inconvenient, Like.
Speaker 2: It does a little bit. But I would assume that
Speaker 2: the the premises come with you know, servants or footmen
Speaker 2: to stoke the fires of the wood fire.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're asking people to keep an eye
Speaker 1: on the fire themselves, obviously.
Speaker 3: I don't know what would hope fires in the tub
Speaker 3: with you if you look at the photo, But I'm
Speaker 3: assuming somebody comes by every few minutes and puts a
Speaker 3: new piece in for you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that makes sense. But one thing I think
Speaker 2: we all appreciate it. On the original hot tub episode
Speaker 2: is when we sort of started venturing out past just
Speaker 2: like traditional hot tubs and more into like sauna culture,
Speaker 2: which is huge in Iceland. I think we even ended
Speaker 2: up talking about like how popular it is to like
Speaker 2: cook meats whilst taking us Schmitz.
Speaker 3: You knows Finland where they have the cutouts in the
Speaker 3: sauna put the meat in.
Speaker 2: Such war episode on News Expedition at All there you go.
Speaker 1: Also Finland, And one thing that I love about the
Speaker 1: apartments there, it's so weird what's considered basic accommodation from
Speaker 1: country to country. In Finland, it is considered basic accommodation
Speaker 1: for your apartment to have a sauna.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's is pretty neat. Well, you know, sauna culture
Speaker 2: is big in Iceland as well. In Holstvlore, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say hvolsvo umlaut llu r there's a place called the
Speaker 2: Hotel Ranga. Ah yes, yes, ah, yes, the Hotel Ranga.
Speaker 2: You can spot the Mount Hecla volcano from three outdoor
Speaker 2: riverside hot tubs at Hotel Rinka, located in a pastoral
Speaker 2: corner of South Iceland. Visit during the northern lights and
Speaker 2: you can request an Aurora alarm clock to make sure
Speaker 2: you catch a night skylit with color or stargaze from
Speaker 2: the hotel's standalone observatory, complete with retractable roof but's wing
Speaker 2: the suns up. You ask, well, you'll explore glacial caves,
Speaker 2: take a scenic flight over Mount Hecla, and fish for
Speaker 2: salmon in the east Mango biffo. He just reach in
Speaker 2: there and grab them with your hands. They're just lous
Speaker 2: them with salmon. Also cheaper than going to the restaurants
Speaker 2: in Iceland. To be honest, apparently everything is prohibited, and
Speaker 2: it makes sense because it's so remote, you know, it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, hard to get that. It's like, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you guys have been keeping up with the
Speaker 2: new season of True Detective where they're in allowed, but
Speaker 2: there's one really telling kind of not like particularly exciting detail,
Speaker 2: but like Oreos costs like twenty five dollars there because
Speaker 2: like it's the important export is getting the funians there.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a it's a it's a difficult proposition,
Speaker 2: it really is.
Speaker 1: And I know that show is quote unquote controversial to
Speaker 1: some folks.
Speaker 2: But I like it. I love it a new episode
Speaker 2: that came out yesterday I thought was a banger. No,
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see where it No. No, I'm really
Speaker 2: excited to see where it goes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's smart to keep it to
Speaker 1: six episodes there.
Speaker 2: It's leaning into the supernatural stuff, like one of them
Speaker 2: to season one. I think it's cool. I think they're
Speaker 2: doing a five know, I love it. Man. And and
Speaker 2: speaking of weird things, we have been doing that for
Speaker 2: the last thirty minutes or so. Shall we continue? Yeah,
Speaker 2: speaking of one thing before we move on.
Speaker 1: True Detective Night Country, I think a beautiful thing they
Speaker 1: did is so surreal is any of those moments that
Speaker 1: we see can be occurring at eleven am local time?
Speaker 2: And it's really disorienting even just watching the show and realizing,
Speaker 2: like what time was it supposed to be? Like are
Speaker 2: they are they going to bed late or early or
Speaker 2: like anyway, it's very very interesting. I highly recommend and
Speaker 2: put aside any preconceived notions about what you might think
Speaker 2: about the previous season. I think it's very well done.
Speaker 1: And do know, do be honest with yourself, folks, and
Speaker 1: realize that a lot of the criticism of that show
Speaker 1: is coming from the internet's love of misogyny.
Speaker 2: Just absolutely, just to be honest, because the showrunner used
Speaker 2: to be pretty manly man, you know, Nick Pittsilao, and
Speaker 2: now this season's helm by a woman, and I think
Speaker 2: a lot of people that kind of brokes him the
Speaker 2: wrong way. Yeah, Nick was acting out a little on
Speaker 2: his Instagram. Nick can say, you see he's he does that.
Speaker 2: I'm not a huge I'm not a huge fan of
Speaker 2: his vibes in that respect. So these people can dump
Speaker 2: a bucket of cold water on your head. That's all
Speaker 2: I've got to say. You know, no hot tough for them.
Speaker 2: You know what we are speaking of frozen things? Yeah right,
Speaker 2: we've got We've got double seguayes here.
Speaker 1: What we are fans of is weird commercials and food.
Speaker 1: And we thought, dating back to our November twenty fourth,
Speaker 1: twenty two and twenty twenty twenty two Keep It All
Speaker 1: in Max episode on How the there was a massive
Speaker 1: screw up on the part of Swanson that led to
Speaker 1: the dawn of Frozen TV Dinners. They actually they ordered
Speaker 1: way too much turkey that they thought they were gonna
Speaker 1: move move during the Thanksgiving season, and since they didn't
Speaker 1: sell the Turkey. They couldn't take a loss on it,
Speaker 1: so they made television dinners. We found we found a
Speaker 1: lot of weird, weird TV dinner commercials. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, what if we do know this was your idea.
Speaker 1: What if we do a little bit of a montage
Speaker 1: of TV dinners and then we'll just come back for
Speaker 1: the credits.
Speaker 2: You gotta have a montage.
Speaker 3: Hey, you gals think you're lucky you can get Swanson
Speaker 3: TV Turkey Dinners.
Speaker 2: But I say Swanson TV Turkey Dinners are a bigger
Speaker 2: break for husbands. Now you take me. I could be early,
Speaker 2: that can be late, that can bring pals to dinner anytime.
Speaker 3: I please.
Speaker 2: And get this, My wife never panics. She just takes
Speaker 2: Swanson TV Turkey Dinners from the freezing compartment of our
Speaker 2: refrigerator when I'm a little off schedule.
Speaker 3: And right you are, Jack, you a world away from
Speaker 3: the every day with the new Swanson International Dinners. Take
Speaker 3: you away from there every day to a world makes
Speaker 3: you want in from Swanson.
Speaker 2: A fine wine is a perfect balancing of taste. So
Speaker 2: is a fine dinner. You Le menuel Le menu frozen
Speaker 2: dinners from Swansen so extraordinary. You dares have them with
Speaker 2: a vintage wine. This is an ordinary man. Honey, come home,
Speaker 2: this is a baby today, your bodyslfusial. I'll starve it.
Speaker 2: What's for de I made your favorite.
Speaker 1: Hungry and there we go, big, big thanks to the
Speaker 1: super producer, the man, the myth legend, mister Max Williams
Speaker 1: for that lovely montage which I.
Speaker 2: Don't know about you. Noel left me a little famished. Yeah,
Speaker 2: specifically for some kind of weird meet and three with
Speaker 2: some brown gravy, uh gelatinous.
Speaker 3: Also, just to jump in to bring this fact back
Speaker 3: up for the original episode, they didn't have a place
Speaker 3: to store this stuff, but they had a train that
Speaker 3: as long as the train was moving, it would refrigerate.
Speaker 3: They've had a train going between like I think it was,
Speaker 3: Ohio and New.
Speaker 2: Jersey, back and forth. With all that back and forth.
Speaker 3: That was their solution was to just keep doing that.
Speaker 2: Because they were there. They were in desperate danger of
Speaker 2: having these things spoil because they had way too many
Speaker 2: of them, right.
Speaker 1: And they also uh, they also pulled off quite a
Speaker 1: coup because the American public in the beginning didn't bother
Speaker 1: to ask why the main entree for all of these
Speaker 1: was Turkey.
Speaker 2: Inevitably. Uh so rest is history though, you know, and
Speaker 2: as we experienced uh through the magic of editing. M
Speaker 2: h and uh speaking to Magic, Turkey's big shot out
Speaker 2: to the Quist Jonathan strick big big thanks A J.
Speaker 1: Jacobs the Puzzler, check it out, check it Uh. Noel's
Speaker 1: going to be on.
Speaker 2: His show at the Puzzler pretty soon. They just did
Speaker 2: a live show in New York. I sign that a
Speaker 2: lot of fun. Yeah, I really liked that guy, super cool.
Speaker 2: You know what, Let's let's let's drop the facade. We
Speaker 2: like Jonathan Strickland too. I'm gonna be the first one
Speaker 2: to say I said earlier episode. I know, I know,
Speaker 2: we we we always say we love you. Jonathan's huge
Speaker 2: thanks to Eves, Jeff Co, Chris frasciotis here in spirit,
Speaker 2: Alex Williams who composed this banging bippity bop that you're
Speaker 2: hearing in your ear holes right now, and big big
Speaker 2: thanks to you, Noel. Here's two more episodes in the future,
Speaker 2: and also with you. We'll see you next time, folks.
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