Speaker 1: Course Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic
Speaker 1: episode was produced by the team at Pandora.
Speaker 2: What y'all is, Laiya and this QLs classic is taking
Speaker 2: us back to October nineteen, twenty sixteen. Imagine it Ruth's Picnic,
Speaker 2: New York City. Two days well, myself and Team Supreme
Speaker 2: decided we would hold up in a hotel across the
Speaker 2: street from the Ruth Picnic and interview as many of
Speaker 2: those artists as possible. Yeah, the first and the last
Speaker 2: time we did this, but check it out. This is
Speaker 2: the episode that features appearances from ex Ambassador Stretching, Barbido,
Speaker 2: and Lady Leisure.
Speaker 3: It's a good one. I hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 1: What's up, y'all? Welcome to a very special edition of
Speaker 1: Course Love Supreme once again. This is a road trip, well,
Speaker 1: non exactly a road trip. We're kind of up the
Speaker 1: block from Bryant Park in New York City. I'll say
Speaker 1: that twenty years ago, when the Roots were first formed,
Speaker 1: we made and cut our teeth on the festival circuit.
Speaker 1: And festivals are like now a thing in America. Back
Speaker 1: in the early nineties, it was like really unheard of
Speaker 1: to have different genres together under one roof, like doing
Speaker 1: a festival. We always said that we had enough pool
Speaker 1: and of course enough finances, we were going to bring
Speaker 1: a festival to whatever city that we chose to do.
Speaker 1: And of course, I guess most of you guys are
Speaker 1: familiar with the Roots Picnic. That's our Philadelphia homegrown festival event.
Speaker 1: So this year we decided to take the Roots Picnic
Speaker 1: to Bryant Park in New York City and entertained over
Speaker 1: twenty thousand people for two days. So many acts played
Speaker 1: the picnic. David Byrne, Wu Tang, Clan di'angelo, John Mayer,
Speaker 1: even Alicia Keys, Dave Chappelle, Common of course the Roots
Speaker 1: performed as well. We even Adnle, Rogers and Chic. That's
Speaker 1: a lot of lineup. Anyway, we recorded these special episodes
Speaker 1: of Quest Love Supreme live during the Roots Picnic. I
Speaker 1: was running around quite a bit too. I popped up
Speaker 1: in the show occasionally when I had a minute, but
Speaker 1: I was basically rehearsing. But don't worry, the team Supreme
Speaker 1: held it down and they really did an amazing job
Speaker 1: running the show with my absence. That's right, we got
Speaker 1: Fante Boss Bill still there, unpaid bills there, Sugar, Steve
Speaker 1: is there, Lai is there, and a whole cast to others.
Speaker 1: This particular episode, you're gonna hear some really really great
Speaker 1: interviews with DJ Mohma who else. We got the ex
Speaker 1: Ambassadors to Shiman Chill Moody Smashing Hearts. We got the
Speaker 1: legendary New York hip hop radio DJ Stretching Barbido, some
Speaker 1: of my favorites. I want to be them when I
Speaker 1: grow up, and all the way from the UK, we
Speaker 1: got Lady Lashure. I really hope you enjoyed the show.
Speaker 1: This is part one of the Roots Picnic New York edition.
Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme, Let's Go Soma.
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Speaker 1: Roll called bill. Yeah, y'all don't know. Yeah, Roots Picnic, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: My name is Steve. Yeah, I'm so tired.
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Speaker 10: My name is MoMA. Yeah, I'm a music man. Yeah,
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Speaker 11: Welcome to quest Love Supreme, our faithful and righteous cult leader,
Speaker 11: our furor quest Love.
Speaker 1: Is not here today. He's a little busy. He's a
Speaker 1: little busy. He's a little busy actually doing his job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one of his jobs, of one of his nineteen jobs,
Speaker 1: one of his jobs.
Speaker 11: He's actually working today on the roots picnic. So we
Speaker 11: holding it down in his absence. I'm Fante fun Tika
Speaker 11: Newicticulo a k A Gully Blanche a k A hacks On,
Speaker 11: Jim Thu a k A Young Player, Underwood aka wood
Speaker 11: Fang flowers ak that's.
Speaker 3: Enough aka album in stores, album in stores.
Speaker 1: I always got album in stores somewhere.
Speaker 11: Uh yeah, holding down fun Tickelow to my left is
Speaker 11: the lovely miss. I ain't gonna do it to you
Speaker 11: because he, of course love came up with a great
Speaker 11: nickname for you, Margaret louder.
Speaker 2: Loud.
Speaker 10: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Okay, that's fine, that's I.
Speaker 1: Love you anyway. We love you, We love you, We
Speaker 1: love you.
Speaker 2: All.
Speaker 7: Good to be here today, Hello fellas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, also joining us. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: My brother, my man's my millow, My man's unpaid, Bill
Speaker 9: Bill Sherman, who is although I just I just found
Speaker 9: out he is now paid.
Speaker 1: He found he found out be a text message. Did
Speaker 1: track yet got it? He got a big da big day.
Speaker 9: We got that.
Speaker 11: PayPal notifications so unpaid Bill Bill Sherman. He's in the
Speaker 11: building direct deposit though, Sugar Steve like that, Sugar Steve,
Speaker 11: your hardest working Interindy and show business. How how many
Speaker 11: hours have you been up?
Speaker 1: Like completely all of them? I don't know.
Speaker 8: The last last two nights. Have just gotten a couple
Speaker 8: of hours of sleep.
Speaker 7: So we're gonna get all into that.
Speaker 3: I wanted.
Speaker 1: You're a little delirious today every day. Yeah, a little
Speaker 1: more than news. We get medicine. Go ge him. We
Speaker 1: won't call it we I don't think we can do that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we're recording the show. Uh yeah, well we're we're
Speaker 8: I have many jobs like quest also.
Speaker 12: Listen, Yeah go ahead.
Speaker 8: I work at the supervisor at McDonald's.
Speaker 1: You got promoted not watching let Us was let I
Speaker 1: was watching Lettus.
Speaker 8: No, we're simultaneously recording the picnic multi truck recording of
Speaker 8: the picnic, and we're set up at S A R
Speaker 8: for rehearsals over the next two days as well, and
Speaker 8: we're recording those. And we're recording these. So I got
Speaker 8: like three pro tools riggs.
Speaker 1: All around town. Steve's busy. Steve is the fucking.
Speaker 12: Man doing much.
Speaker 8: I have an assistant who's doing much.
Speaker 1: That's what's I got to get to that level. I
Speaker 1: can get me an assistant. If it ain't now, I
Speaker 1: don't know when.
Speaker 10: I don't know.
Speaker 11: I just I think I have a problem letting people
Speaker 11: in my life in that way.
Speaker 1: That just got really personal.
Speaker 9: Really at least you're not talking about, you know, writing
Speaker 9: stuff on the toilet.
Speaker 1: So what would you do with an the system? Like, Man,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 11: I just because you gotta let you gotta really trust
Speaker 11: in your assistant. Like that's somebody they got the passwords
Speaker 11: of your ship. You know what I'm saying. If you
Speaker 11: got a side piece, they gotta know.
Speaker 7: Arrangements, arrangements, travel arrangements.
Speaker 11: It's like so yeah, man, I don't know. Man, that's
Speaker 11: just someone else in your life that you that could
Speaker 11: just write a book about you later on. I don't
Speaker 11: know if I trust.
Speaker 9: That can end up as a guest on question Love
Speaker 9: Supreme after you die, After you died, be.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, was doing all the coke? Nigga? I don't
Speaker 1: want to. I can't. I can't fuck with that ship.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 9: So I don't I get through that. Maybe some counsel
Speaker 9: and all that I can get through that. But fuck
Speaker 9: my problem.
Speaker 11: The man we got right here, my man, right here,
Speaker 11: this brother, I will let him talk about himself, but
Speaker 11: allow me to.
Speaker 1: Introduce uh this brother.
Speaker 11: He is the lead, the head DJ every Day People,
Speaker 11: every Day People, which is Chef ro Blade.
Speaker 10: That's chef ro Black and oh.
Speaker 1: Awesome party as long has pretty been around.
Speaker 10: This is like the end of the fourth season.
Speaker 11: Oh wow, okay, yeah, I was just funny. I was
Speaker 11: actually supposed to do one of them in Charlotte, right
Speaker 11: I was. I ended up having to go. I think
Speaker 11: we had a tour day or something, so I missed it.
Speaker 11: I was like, damn, I missed it. But anyway, ladies
Speaker 11: and gentlemen, the man of the hour, the man with
Speaker 11: the plan, with the sound, all that flash it, ladies, gentermen,
Speaker 11: giving up a DJ moment.
Speaker 1: That's up man.
Speaker 11: Thank you for doing this, man, thank you for coming
Speaker 11: here and getting up early in the morning. This is
Speaker 11: early for like musician hours and ship so.
Speaker 1: Pretty much it's new. Yeah, noon is thirty. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: still kind of early.
Speaker 10: I biked hair so I could wake up, Did you really?
Speaker 1: Oh shit.
Speaker 10: I live in the city though, so I'm not like
Speaker 10: no hair.
Speaker 1: Biked over.
Speaker 2: But y'all, wow, you've been doing a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: this week, this past week, right because you filled in
Speaker 2: for a quest.
Speaker 10: Feeling for quests at Brooklyn Bowl and also did a
Speaker 10: closing event for Summer Stage with you Now Mone in
Speaker 10: Central Park. So it's been it's been a fun week,
Speaker 10: you know. And we got Roots Picnic tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Today, today, shoot today.
Speaker 11: Yeah up, man, real, So tell me a little bit
Speaker 11: about your your style. Man, I was looking through your Unfortunately,
Speaker 11: like I said, I didn't get to come to the party,
Speaker 11: so I missed. I miss actually seeing you do your thing.
Speaker 11: But we had you send over just some tracks you
Speaker 11: know before, and I was just reading the tracks. I
Speaker 11: was like, Yo, this motherfucker is in my iTunes, like
Speaker 11: like some of the Jones just being like the Greg
Speaker 11: Reporter nineteen sixty but Donald bird Love has come around
Speaker 11: like just I was like, oh my god, Like this
Speaker 11: dude is is like me.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean my style, you know, it covers a
Speaker 10: lot from like really like esoteric mixtape radio show stuff
Speaker 10: to like more mainstream generic And you know, when I
Speaker 10: first started djaying, I was in a place where I
Speaker 10: was either in like in a bar in Brooklyn, playing
Speaker 10: like Roy Airs Vinyl and Weldon Irving or whatever. Or
Speaker 10: I was in Manhattan playing like Britney Spears and justin Timberlating,
Speaker 10: And you know, obviously one of those two was a
Speaker 10: struggle for me, but I was getting it done because
Speaker 10: it was a check And I think, you know, after
Speaker 10: like twelve to thirteen years of djaying, I've been able
Speaker 10: to kind of like reconcile everything in the middle where
Speaker 10: I've just found that happy medium where in one of
Speaker 10: my parties you may hear like a soulful joint, but
Speaker 10: you're probably you're also gonna hear Drake in the future.
Speaker 10: And I've been able to kind of like eliminate all
Speaker 10: like the real disposable pop shit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 10: So in terms of my style, I would say it's
Speaker 10: basically like the best of black music that I love,
Speaker 10: you know, hip hop, R and B, Soca House.
Speaker 1: Coman. He's in New York, Oh way in New York.
Speaker 2: You got to yeah, you got to man said Africa,
Speaker 2: What part of what the are you're from?
Speaker 10: Part I'm from Sudan?
Speaker 13: Oh wow?
Speaker 1: Oh wow?
Speaker 7: So how does that? How does I mean?
Speaker 2: Because most people don't know the musical influence of Sudan
Speaker 2: do you is it any do you ever play anything.
Speaker 10: Or you know, we don't have that big of a
Speaker 10: Sudanese community in New York, So if I were to
Speaker 10: drop a track in my bomb, but I'm also like
Speaker 10: part ever trying and the whole like East African connects.
Speaker 7: That's what.
Speaker 10: There's a lot of like Ethiopians and Era trains that
Speaker 10: come through to my events. And so I got that
Speaker 10: music on deck and when I do drop it, it's
Speaker 10: a riot. You know. You have people who are not
Speaker 10: familiar with it, like what the hell is going on?
Speaker 1: But the ones that are from me, they lose their mind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: totally got you.
Speaker 10: I mean I do that late night, not in the
Speaker 10: middle of prime time.
Speaker 11: So if it bombs, this is okay, got my manly,
Speaker 11: I don't know if you're he's that's my homie, Okay.
Speaker 1: He's from Sudan as well.
Speaker 11: Odyssey UH producer Emcuh was based out of DC. I
Speaker 11: think he's here now. But incredible incredible artists. Your start,
Speaker 11: like what leads a person to want to be a DJ?
Speaker 11: Like what is the you know people have some people
Speaker 11: want to be MC some people want to be producers,
Speaker 11: what is it that drove you to say I want
Speaker 11: to select the sounds for people.
Speaker 10: I don't know. I think it was maybe the easiest
Speaker 10: way for me to touch music, being that I just
Speaker 10: don't play instruments and I don't sing. When when I
Speaker 10: was in high school in college, I used to rap.
Speaker 10: You know you're being We all did. Yeah, you had your.
Speaker 1: Little you you did? You know I did not. I
Speaker 1: did not. Have you heard me rap before I have,
Speaker 1: but you just did it exactly.
Speaker 11: Everybody wrapped in high school, Like, I mean, that was
Speaker 11: like a rite of passage, I.
Speaker 10: Think, right. And I think the Roots used to do
Speaker 10: something called black Lilies. Yeah, yeah, I even like I
Speaker 10: got on stage on that's one of the MC's that
Speaker 10: went up during the open mic, and that was like,
Speaker 10: that was my hip hop career, highlight of my life.
Speaker 10: I don't remember what year. This was, late nineties, early
Speaker 10: two thousands, you know, I don't recall, but around that time,
Speaker 10: you know, I became like really disenchanted with hip hop.
Speaker 10: It was super jiggy, and I just kind of fell out.
Speaker 1: Of love with it.
Speaker 10: So I started researching all the samples behind the music.
Speaker 10: And that's when I started collecting vinyl, and you know,
Speaker 10: to go back to your question, I don't think a
Speaker 10: lot of us who started djaying in maybe late nineties
Speaker 10: or before that. I don't think anybody starts djaying with
Speaker 10: the goal of becoming a DJ. You just love music,
Speaker 10: you collect vinyl, and after a certain amount of time,
Speaker 10: you have enough music and you have enough experience that
Speaker 10: you could actually rock a party, which is kind of
Speaker 10: different than the way it is today.
Speaker 11: There was never anything where you said, Okay, I want
Speaker 11: to get paid for this. It was like you didn't
Speaker 11: start off with the intention of hay now, because.
Speaker 10: I was working a full time job. You know, I
Speaker 10: went to college for electrical engineering, and so I came
Speaker 10: out of school. I was working a full time job,
Speaker 10: which I actually held for, like, you know, over ten years,
Speaker 10: and I was doing both at the same time, you know,
Speaker 10: living in Manhattan, working in Manhattan, uh, DJing in Manhattan.
Speaker 10: So I never really have to worry about getting paid
Speaker 10: for DJing. So I just kept like honing my skills
Speaker 10: and like refining my craft, and ultimately, you know, I
Speaker 10: became so good that I didn't have to work anymore.
Speaker 11: It's interesting you say that I had a talk with
Speaker 11: a friend of mine. A couple of days ago, he
Speaker 11: was asking me about like, Okay, when do you make
Speaker 11: the leap from your hobby to your real from your
Speaker 11: real job.
Speaker 10: Your hobby to your jobby job, hobby to your job.
Speaker 11: And my my, I said, almost verbating with you, listen,
Speaker 11: as long as you got something that's paying you that
Speaker 11: steady check, stay with that ship.
Speaker 1: Don't walk away from that fucking check. The fuck is
Speaker 1: wrong with you.
Speaker 2: Better get that money, get fired, you get that unemployment first, Yeah.
Speaker 11: Because you never want after, just like you never want desperation.
Speaker 11: A few of your artistic decisions.
Speaker 1: Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 11: You can't focus on being a great DJ when you
Speaker 11: ain't got no fucking roof.
Speaker 10: So and that job can finance your craft. If you
Speaker 10: buy turntables, you want to buy pro tools, you want
Speaker 10: to buy mac you want to like.
Speaker 11: Getting what so making that transition going from the jobby
Speaker 11: to the hobby, Like, what was that like? When did
Speaker 11: you know like, Okay, officially I can do this full
Speaker 11: time and I'm good.
Speaker 1: What was that like for you?
Speaker 10: I just think it came at a point where I
Speaker 10: became feeling miserable. This is like, honestly, I was going
Speaker 10: back and forth from the corporate life because I'm like,
Speaker 10: you know what, I got enough money, I'm about to
Speaker 10: DJ and trial for a year or two. Now I'm like,
Speaker 10: oh shit, I'm broke. We go back and I think
Speaker 10: the last time I just like, you know, cut off
Speaker 10: the umbilical cord was twenty fourteen. Oh wow, yeah, so
Speaker 10: not that long ago. But I just started to feel miserable.
Speaker 10: There was such a huge difference between how I felt
Speaker 10: at the office and you know, I really like engineering.
Speaker 10: It's it's a great job. You're like really building things
Speaker 10: and it's problem solving all day long. But I just
Speaker 10: start to feel miserable versus you know, the high that
Speaker 10: I would get when I'm out DJing, you know, doing
Speaker 10: day parties with three hundre to my friends. I was like,
Speaker 10: all right, I'm not at the point where I can
Speaker 10: make up that income, but I think having my time
Speaker 10: and my life back was probably worth like six figures
Speaker 10: to me at that point. So I was like, fuck it,
Speaker 10: I start from the bottom and build it back up,
Speaker 10: and you know, it happened pretty fast.
Speaker 1: That's dope, man, It's really dope.
Speaker 11: I'm sitting here with the man of the hour DJ
Speaker 11: MoMA everyday people uh were sitting here. So this is
Speaker 11: Rooth's picnic. So I want to talk picnic stuff. What
Speaker 11: is when you.
Speaker 1: Got this gig?
Speaker 11: Like what was your what was your mind state in
Speaker 11: terms of saying it's like setting up your crate or
Speaker 11: your playlist or whatever, Like what was what was that
Speaker 11: like for this kind of crowd? Like how would you
Speaker 11: rock this this kind of crowd?
Speaker 10: Well, I had I had gotten the nod for Roots
Speaker 10: Picnic in Philly, Okay, So that that gave me like
Speaker 10: a good introduction. And then when when Quest told me
Speaker 10: about Roots Picnic New York, I was like, oh man,
Speaker 10: that's like a home game. That's it's going to be
Speaker 10: so easy, truth be told. I haven't even thought about
Speaker 10: it yet. It's going to be in a few hours,
Speaker 10: but it's it's not that long a set, forty five minutes.
Speaker 10: It's gonna be so easy. I'm just gonna do a
Speaker 10: mixture of like you know, like some hip hop hits,
Speaker 10: but also like some some more like global danceable stuff.
Speaker 10: I'm thinking Brazilian vibes, African vibes, try to bring something different.
Speaker 1: Try to warm it up out there.
Speaker 10: It's cool, Yes, yeah, ticket take you guys to the tropics.
Speaker 1: So you don't you don't pre plan your sets at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of question.
Speaker 10: Yeah I did. I did the Red Bull three style
Speaker 10: the same way I pulled up to It was at
Speaker 10: South Paul and I was just chilling in the green
Speaker 10: room and I started looking at some crates, you know,
Speaker 10: because when you've DJ enough, you have all these micro
Speaker 10: sets that are in your head. So sometimes it's a
Speaker 10: matter of piecing the right micro sets together and having
Speaker 10: the right transition records to go from one genre to
Speaker 10: the other. I don't think I've ever done a set
Speaker 10: where I've gone song by song because maybe song number
Speaker 10: seven didn't hit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, maybe my
Speaker 10: intuition is like, nah, don't play this right now.
Speaker 11: So yeah, I was gonna ask you. So a lot
Speaker 11: of it is definitely you have to read the crowd.
Speaker 11: I mean, you can have something in your mind, but
Speaker 11: it's like, I don't think that's.
Speaker 10: One hundred percent. I think I think that's basically like
Speaker 10: my main attribute. I'm not necessarily like a turntable list
Speaker 10: or I don't talk on the mic too much. It's
Speaker 10: mostly selection, mixing and timing, so selection's key.
Speaker 1: If you hear some noise, it's just me and the boys,
Speaker 1: goddamn symbol.
Speaker 11: Now we're a live on location. We're at the Roof's picnic.
Speaker 11: And so if you hear any kind of booming or
Speaker 11: any kind of just heard coffins, unpaid Bill in his inmphasema,
Speaker 11: or or if you're any kind of drums or anything,
Speaker 11: it's probably our boss man Qus Love playing nearby. So
Speaker 11: it may be some sounds from the picnic that you
Speaker 11: guys here.
Speaker 1: But I think I think they got the picture. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right them. You know what I'm saying, like, it's authenticity.
Speaker 9: Fuck it, ladies, gentlemen, we are we are proud once again,
Speaker 9: we're here.
Speaker 1: We're happy.
Speaker 11: Uh, these brothers took time on a show day to
Speaker 11: enjoy us because it really it really means a lot
Speaker 11: for them to come here.
Speaker 14: Uh.
Speaker 11: These brothers are based out of Brooklyn. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 11: please give a big, warm, quest love supreme round of
Speaker 11: applause for the ex ambassadors up.
Speaker 1: Fellas, fellas, how y'all feel.
Speaker 15: What feeling good?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 16: Feeling great to be back in New York. It's funny,
Speaker 16: you know we uh, we actually all I know this
Speaker 16: is gonna create some groans. We all just relocated to
Speaker 16: l Ah. My god, I'm telling you. Just like getting
Speaker 16: off the plane, it's it's like seeing this gray sky
Speaker 16: and it's like a little it's like low sixties. I'm
Speaker 16: feeling it, man, I'm so in it.
Speaker 11: How long have you guys been out in l A
Speaker 11: about it?
Speaker 17: I mean, yeah, you've been there a year. We've been
Speaker 17: on tour. So he moved there a year ago, but
Speaker 17: he hasn't been there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 18: I moved like two months ago.
Speaker 15: I moved there last September.
Speaker 16: I spent I've spent maybe like four weeks there total
Speaker 16: since I moved.
Speaker 1: Wow, You're not a douchebag yet, not yet.
Speaker 15: But I've had some avocado toast.
Speaker 13: That was what.
Speaker 15: Let's it hits your lips, It's so good.
Speaker 1: There's not much avocado toast. You're not up on that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm in so much of this is true? Okay,
Speaker 1: so what okay? So you got to break this down.
Speaker 1: So is it toast spread?
Speaker 18: It's just it's simple.
Speaker 16: It's just avocado kind of smeared on on some toast,
Speaker 16: so it's still got the smear.
Speaker 1: The Jewish New Yorker rights like it's like a boogie peanut.
Speaker 6: But California just gentrified California cream is exactly.
Speaker 11: California is gentrified cream cheese.
Speaker 1: I got all good, Okay, well, thank you for coming through.
Speaker 15: Oh my god, pleasure man.
Speaker 11: So we got with us today just so everyone can
Speaker 11: hear and qualify. So we got Casey Harris on keyboards
Speaker 11: and then lead vocal Sam Harris and then on drums
Speaker 11: Adam Levigne or Adam Adam Levin.
Speaker 16: I didn't know how you can take no, no, no
Speaker 16: listen because because it's so funny every airport we're at,
Speaker 16: every time, like someone calls his name to the to
Speaker 16: the desk, the ladies like Adam Levi.
Speaker 18: Looking around.
Speaker 17: Is what it really is is the guy holding like
Speaker 17: the sign and the so there's like kids crowding around him.
Speaker 17: He like spells my name wrong, so it says Adam
Speaker 17: Levine and then there's like kids standing around him with
Speaker 17: cameras ready. But then I get there and say it
Speaker 17: to me.
Speaker 12: And everyone's just like a disappointment.
Speaker 1: Have you ever played to it, though, Like, have you
Speaker 1: ever actually like went with it?
Speaker 17: One time I was in Mexico about a month ago
Speaker 17: and I was trying to go to this really fancy
Speaker 17: restaurant and I put my name down and I got
Speaker 17: there super late, and I guess Adam Levine had gotten
Speaker 17: married at this restaurant.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 17: And so I got there and they were like, oh,
Speaker 17: we thought it was going to be Adam Levine And
Speaker 17: I smoozed him a little bit. So not it didn't
Speaker 17: truly like work in my favorite but I did get
Speaker 17: to sit you guys, I still got a little something.
Speaker 17: Mostly it's just disappointment.
Speaker 9: This actually reminds me of something I read in the
Speaker 9: New York Post the other day about man in Manhattan.
Speaker 1: His name was Denzel Washington.
Speaker 3: Yeah he was.
Speaker 9: He was arrested for strangling a woman by the name
Speaker 9: of Aretha Franklin.
Speaker 1: Washington. Ultimate clickbait. Perfect, it was perfect.
Speaker 15: Only the post Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah paper, they know their headline.
Speaker 18: Yeah, slow news day.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's hilarious.
Speaker 11: I want to talk a little bit about how you
Speaker 11: guys first started and just you know, what turns you
Speaker 11: on to music, Like what made you, you know, want
Speaker 11: to pick up that instrument or start writing songs?
Speaker 1: What was the beginning for you guys.
Speaker 16: So, Casey and I grew up in college town, upstate Ithaca,
Speaker 16: New York, and we uh, we always kind of have
Speaker 16: been playing music together since we're kids.
Speaker 15: My mom's actually here.
Speaker 16: On the couch, and my mom is a singer growing up,
Speaker 16: so there's music in the household all the time. And
Speaker 16: we used to we used to sometimes accompany her at
Speaker 16: her shows. We'd like we'd be the guest the guest stars.
Speaker 16: This is like when I was maybe like eight or
Speaker 16: nine and uh in case he was ten and uh yeah,
Speaker 16: we started first band in middle school and and just
Speaker 16: kind of played music all throughout middle school and high
Speaker 16: school and then uh moved to New York and uh,
Speaker 16: you know, we we've been a band. We met Adam
Speaker 16: first year of school at New School University in the
Speaker 16: freshman dorms and uh.
Speaker 1: What year was this?
Speaker 11: Yeah doesn't Oh my god, I think y'all were there
Speaker 11: around the same time. I played one of my first
Speaker 11: gigs there. Oh yeah, where my first group of Little
Speaker 11: brother we played. Uh, we played New School University album
Speaker 11: around the time we released album The Mistters Show, and
Speaker 11: it was around that time.
Speaker 1: But New School always showed us love.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's a great place and it was a nice chip.
Speaker 16: Oh remember, oh man, come on the first But you
Speaker 16: know what, here's here's the funny thing. So for us,
Speaker 16: we we have for many, many years kind of based
Speaker 16: we can always judge and this is not always true.
Speaker 15: It's not always true, but.
Speaker 16: Back in the day, at least especially with college shows,
Speaker 16: we'd always judge like, Okay, if we're getting a lot
Speaker 16: of money for the show, it's gonna suck.
Speaker 15: The more money, it's like the worst of the show.
Speaker 16: So the first show we played out of college, that
Speaker 16: was like the biggest check.
Speaker 15: It was like two thousand dollars or something, and we're stoked.
Speaker 15: We never made that.
Speaker 16: We never made that kind of money at a show,
Speaker 16: and we drove it was it was outside of Philly
Speaker 16: and it was at this Uh it was like on
Speaker 16: a Tuesday night in like the student lounge in the
Speaker 16: rec room at like ten pm and there's nobody there
Speaker 16: except the promoter and one guy playing pinball on the
Speaker 16: very back. The promoter left a guy who was playing.
Speaker 16: It turned into just a rehearsal that we got, very
Speaker 16: anti climact, very ante. Not bad that our highest paid gig,
Speaker 16: but I digressed. Sorry, We've been in a band for
Speaker 16: about like ten years now, and uh yeah, we we
Speaker 16: love it.
Speaker 1: Man, That's what's up. Man.
Speaker 11: You guys know your music, like you have a lot
Speaker 11: of hip hop references, and like you use like interludes
Speaker 11: on your records.
Speaker 15: Yeah, and you.
Speaker 11: Know the interlude is like a staple.
Speaker 15: H h staple.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 11: You could always judge your albums, you know it was
Speaker 11: the music was the music, But so many classic skits,
Speaker 11: so many albums have been defined by.
Speaker 16: You remember the Carnival that White Records. Oh my god,
Speaker 16: you but folks changed my life, changed my life shop,
Speaker 16: Oh my god, the greatest and so so we grew
Speaker 16: up listening to records like that, like you know, like
Speaker 16: it even you know, even the skits on thirty six Chambers,
Speaker 16: so samples you know, Killop yeah and uh and like
Speaker 16: Sanconia Score.
Speaker 11: What are some of your favorite hip hop Like, let's
Speaker 11: re enact some of your favorite God this this.
Speaker 9: Is like one of mine is maybe like you can
Speaker 9: help me with kimm and Cookie from Come.
Speaker 16: On Ring, Oh my god, hollout Word Records the other
Speaker 16: day she got it on vinyl. It's like one of
Speaker 16: my that's that's one of my top five.
Speaker 11: My mine is definitely, uh Red red Man Muddy Waters
Speaker 11: that I gotta soda buscuit on the on on Tyrese
Speaker 11: and he's picking on the Tyresse commercial. That might have
Speaker 11: been like before, but that ships hilarious. The carnival definitely
Speaker 11: is all though.
Speaker 15: Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 7: I still a I I still like ghost. I'm stuck on.
Speaker 14: Those.
Speaker 11: These are all classes kits from hip hop albums. That
Speaker 11: was the ghost we were represent That's from a O
Speaker 11: Y Bionics.
Speaker 15: Yes time, man, it was that like I love that.
Speaker 1: It was when when everyone was crushing the inters. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know what.
Speaker 14: It was about that, and it seemed like all the
Speaker 14: best albums had at least a few.
Speaker 16: Skits in the and we really wanted to kind of
Speaker 16: incorporate and incorporate that into our our sound too, you
Speaker 16: know them. The whole album itself is a kind of
Speaker 16: a throwback to to all of our influences.
Speaker 1: So that's dope, man.
Speaker 11: With you guys playing this gig today, this is something that,
Speaker 11: I mean.
Speaker 15: The greatest show that we.
Speaker 16: Like, So okay talking about bands that influenced us growing up.
Speaker 16: The roots were everything to me. They were everything to me.
Speaker 16: What was it, I don't know. I mean the fact
Speaker 16: that well, First of all, I loved hip hop, uh
Speaker 16: you know, ever since I was in like elementary school.
Speaker 16: The first time I heard hip hop, I was like,
Speaker 16: this is the music that I'm going to listen to
Speaker 16: for the rest of my And they were also a band.
Speaker 15: They played, I mean, they played their instruments and they
Speaker 15: were so good. I was such a fan. I even
Speaker 15: saw that Remember that movie that Black Thought. I saw
Speaker 15: that movie.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Brooklyn, I wasted ninety minutes of my life.
Speaker 16: It was actually I think was graating it though, Like
Speaker 16: I mean.
Speaker 1: It was okay, it was. I think it was just
Speaker 1: a yeah story. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 16: Just like that Romeo and Juliet kind of yeah.
Speaker 11: But it just didn't have It didn't talk at my
Speaker 11: heart strings like an interracial little story. I need more
Speaker 11: passion from the Black and Jewish love.
Speaker 1: I need to sell them a little more, dude. It
Speaker 1: was it was. It wasn't convincing. It wasn't convincing at all.
Speaker 15: It wasn't fair enough.
Speaker 1: When we have Tarika on the show, we have to
Speaker 1: ask him about we will we were all about that.
Speaker 11: So with you guys playing this gig, is there a
Speaker 11: different kind of preparation that goes into it because oh, well,
Speaker 11: first off, what is it like to play for it?
Speaker 11: Because I've been in this situation before, so I want
Speaker 11: to hear from you guys, what is it like to
Speaker 11: play for quote unquote your heroes?
Speaker 1: Like, what is that like? Is there a different kind
Speaker 1: of preparation?
Speaker 13: Terrifying? It's terrifying.
Speaker 16: But also you know that the lucky thing for us
Speaker 16: is that we have been again, we've been a band
Speaker 16: for so long that we've had a lot of preparation time.
Speaker 16: So you know, like at the end of the day,
Speaker 16: like I think, as as nervous as we might get,
Speaker 16: you know, playing in front of our heroes or playing
Speaker 16: for some of our heroes, I think I think we
Speaker 16: can bring it.
Speaker 14: I feel like it's when when the time comes, it's
Speaker 14: almost easier this way. This I'm pretty confident playing you know,
Speaker 14: our set. I have to admit that when we jammed
Speaker 14: with the Roots during south By, I was shitting my pants.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 15: Yeah, So we sat in with them.
Speaker 16: They did the whole thing south By Southwest this year
Speaker 16: where they invited some of the musicians playing to play, and.
Speaker 1: We were lucky enough to.
Speaker 16: To sit in and play with them, and that was
Speaker 16: the craziest craziest.
Speaker 14: You know, it's one thing to play like you know,
Speaker 14: you're set the music that you you know, have written
Speaker 14: and know you know, like the back of your hand,
Speaker 14: and it's not that to just you know, go into
Speaker 14: a live jam situation, you know where you've you've had
Speaker 14: maybe one quick rehearsal and and you know the you know,
Speaker 14: the roots of pros.
Speaker 15: He was such a tight ship out there.
Speaker 1: It doesn't so cool.
Speaker 2: We wouldn't but talk about that real quick because the
Speaker 2: way that like throws his cues at the same time
Speaker 2: while he's playing drums like he's music director.
Speaker 14: Just you know, I'm sure they've run through the songs,
Speaker 14: you know, a couple of times. I don't think so
Speaker 14: they may just have Yeah, it's amazing. He'll just say
Speaker 14: you like, you know, all right, slow down, or give
Speaker 14: me give me four hits or you know, just you know,
Speaker 14: we're ending, you know, two bars, you know, and just
Speaker 14: and they do it like it like it was you know,
Speaker 14: practice a million times.
Speaker 1: Very Prince, Yeah, yeah, exactly. I read that. Prince was
Speaker 1: a big influence.
Speaker 15: Yeah, man, he was a huge influence.
Speaker 14: You know.
Speaker 16: I would say that my two pillars that I always
Speaker 16: go to with anything that I ever have written, or
Speaker 16: write or will write in the future or do. Just
Speaker 16: in general, it's like there's always there's Bruce Springsteen and
Speaker 16: this Prince.
Speaker 1: What about those two? What about Well?
Speaker 16: I feel like if I do anything that I that
Speaker 16: I could see maybe being in line with either of them,
Speaker 16: then it's then I'm on the right track. You know,
Speaker 16: Like Prince was just the consummate entertainer and performer, and
Speaker 16: he just I mean, he's like so many people can
Speaker 16: speak way more eloquently on the man, the myth, the
Speaker 16: legend that was Prince, you know, than I can. But
Speaker 16: he was just a huge, huge influence on everything that
Speaker 16: I do, and such a great performer and sing a musician.
Speaker 16: And Springsteen is is storytelling is what gets me. And
Speaker 16: his his just authenticity and he's so generous.
Speaker 14: You know.
Speaker 15: I just saw him play at Barclay's recently, and.
Speaker 16: The way have you guys seen his his show, I
Speaker 16: mean it's like a yeah, Well, what he does is
Speaker 16: like he starts his show off and the house lights
Speaker 16: are up in the arena and he just walks on stage.
Speaker 15: Wo the house lights stay up for the first three songs.
Speaker 16: So it's just like a wedding band is there playing
Speaker 16: for an arena, but it's Bruce and his whole band,
Speaker 16: And then the lights go down. He does the show
Speaker 16: and it gets more theatrical at the end. Lights come
Speaker 16: back up. In the last like six songs of the set.
Speaker 16: After he's played for what like three hours or something,
Speaker 16: he's he's, you know, taking requests from the audience, he's
Speaker 16: bringing people up on stage.
Speaker 15: He's just so he's so good with.
Speaker 16: His fans and with his people that I, you know,
Speaker 16: I just like I really admire that.
Speaker 1: What's it like to have your songs everywhere?
Speaker 19: I think, like, like like I was in the Supermark
Speaker 19: the other day and Unsteady came on, and I feel like,
Speaker 19: you're like, it's like it's it's surreal to me to
Speaker 19: think that, like you're in your house one day, right, it's.
Speaker 15: Surreal to me because I never hear it anywhere.
Speaker 16: Always just like I hear it everywhere, But it's like, ah,
Speaker 16: what world do you live in?
Speaker 15: Because I don't hear it ever.
Speaker 19: Like I have I have small kids, listen to pop
Speaker 19: radio all day and it's one of the one of
Speaker 19: those sick songs that like every twenty minutes you hear
Speaker 19: it again and again, it's wonderful.
Speaker 15: It's just it's that's good to hear.
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's I mean, it's good to hear you say
Speaker 14: it's wonderful, because I was about to say.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where it's it's really flattering.
Speaker 14: But I'm also always nervous that it gets obnoxious for people.
Speaker 14: You know, I don't want our songs to become the
Speaker 14: that annoying song. Oh god, that's on again.
Speaker 18: Man, that's the children are annoying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my children are.
Speaker 15: And share their angels.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, total, So they just flap around. Yeah, daddy, daddy,
Speaker 1: that's how I go.
Speaker 11: Yeah, young lady, we have in the house right now.
Speaker 11: I first became familiar with her opening for Jill Scott
Speaker 11: back twenty fifteen, and I was just like, man, like,
Speaker 11: she's fucking dope.
Speaker 1: I just keep it real simple, dope.
Speaker 11: Some of you may have know if you're up on
Speaker 11: TOI dollar Sign shot him my man, tie dollar Sign,
Speaker 11: his record, Horses in the Stable off for free TC.
Speaker 11: She wrote that record.
Speaker 1: Yeah we Don't Talk, We Don't Talk about.
Speaker 11: Also wrote for Diddy every Day. She was in the
Speaker 11: movie shytrack which I Want to Talk about I actually
Speaker 11: saw that one, and I want to talk to her
Speaker 11: about something that's very important and near and there to
Speaker 11: my heart.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about her. Got him ribs?
Speaker 11: That's really what I that's the focus episode.
Speaker 13: It's saying, my real game is crazy.
Speaker 11: Ladies, gentlemen, give a big question love Supreme riperhtplause.
Speaker 13: For y'all's guys.
Speaker 11: To the show man, thank you, thank you for taking
Speaker 11: this time on the show day to do this with us.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 13: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Okay, so listen, all right, yes.
Speaker 9: Okay, So what's your I don't want to give away
Speaker 9: your you don't give away your your formula, But what
Speaker 9: do you do? You do you smoke? Are you a
Speaker 9: what's your what's your what's your preferred mythic charcoal gas?
Speaker 9: Break it down for the people, Sweet baby Ras, let's
Speaker 9: let's let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it.
Speaker 13: Well, first I gotta get some really nice pork They
Speaker 13: have to be pork ribs. Of course it's not. It's
Speaker 13: not saying out. It's like it's cool, but it ain't
Speaker 13: the same. You know, you got to get the pork ribs,
Speaker 13: you know, get a nice rack rip season These ribs overnight.
Speaker 13: Not get a rib rub, you know. You know I
Speaker 13: get a Lorry's rib rub. You know, I rubbed down.
Speaker 13: You know, I've massaged it into the rip. It's all
Speaker 13: about the massaging. You can't just like pour it on it.
Speaker 13: You gotta massage it in, you know, flip it over,
Speaker 13: turn it, massage. You gotta get involved. So I'm rubbing
Speaker 13: the ribs right now, with the with the with the
Speaker 13: with the the rib rub. Now, I take a little
Speaker 13: a little nutmeg and a little cinnamon, and I get
Speaker 13: that in there and I crack that aver. I'm rubbing
Speaker 13: these things in and now I'm like, all right, baby,
Speaker 13: I'm gonna put it in the fridge. You know what
Speaker 13: I'm saying. It's gonna stay in the fridge now. Yeah,
Speaker 13: Because you know I'm loving this rib. You gotta make
Speaker 13: sure the drip got lots of love. When I cook,
Speaker 13: I cooked with love. I don't cook every day, but
Speaker 13: anybody who knows me knows when I cook I cook
Speaker 13: with love.
Speaker 18: I go all out.
Speaker 13: So you know, the rib go in there now minimum
Speaker 13: of three hours, but I've done it overnight.
Speaker 1: Thing.
Speaker 13: It depends on how soon I want to eat these ribs.
Speaker 13: What I'm saying. So I let them sit in there
Speaker 13: for a couple of hours. Then I come back, put
Speaker 13: on a big pot of boiling water, and I put
Speaker 13: nutmeg in that water, cinnamon in that water, a lot
Speaker 13: of ground pepper. You know what I'm saying. I'm trying
Speaker 13: to told you like this is like I just the process.
Speaker 13: It's the it's my one dish hotly.
Speaker 19: It's like.
Speaker 13: My mac and cheese is hit he men. Sometimes it's dry.
Speaker 13: Last time I made it, I messed it up, you
Speaker 13: know what I'm saying. So so I'm not gonna say
Speaker 13: that I got mad, but this one I got, you know,
Speaker 13: I got and my salad game is on too. Okay,
Speaker 13: So let's get back to the So I put them
Speaker 13: in the water. You know what I'm saying. The ribs
Speaker 13: are in the water. They're boiling. They're boiling on a
Speaker 13: nice medium fire. I leave them to do what they
Speaker 13: do with the water. They're boiling. They got the nutmeg.
Speaker 13: Everything's happening. I'm gonna smell the aroma in the air.
Speaker 13: It's like you smell the sweet smell of cinnamon and
Speaker 13: nutmegs in the air. Now it's like, oh snap. So
Speaker 13: now you know what I'm saying, after like two hours
Speaker 13: of boiling them, I think they've already. You know, they
Speaker 13: gotta be falling off. You gotta see little meat bits,
Speaker 13: you know, foam at the top. That's when you know
Speaker 13: you like the foam? Is this, yes, now draining out
Speaker 13: the foam, draining out of the water. And I'm taking
Speaker 13: this nice succulent cooked meat already that's all marinated in
Speaker 13: this greatness, and I'm taking the Sweet Baby Race out now.
Speaker 11: Sweet Baby Race, for those of you who may be listening,
Speaker 11: is one of the top barbecue and black household.
Speaker 9: Yes, it comes in several varieties. It has a sweet
Speaker 9: and spicy, it has like it. It's a lot they're
Speaker 9: coming for, they do. I wouldn't you want to stick
Speaker 9: with the sweet and spicy. They coming for Jack Daniels
Speaker 9: Mass like they coming for their corners. That's that's what
Speaker 9: they're doing, you know what.
Speaker 13: I stick with the original, the original sweet Baby, because
Speaker 13: you know, that is what I know. And I jazz
Speaker 13: it up though I don't just pour that on this. See,
Speaker 13: that's not what we stop. First, sweet Baby rais and
Speaker 13: I grab a little honey. Then I go grab the
Speaker 13: nutmeg and cinnamon. Once more we got to I didn't
Speaker 13: even know that was cust. I try to name the tyrone.
Speaker 13: That's crusty, baby, I said, I'll see the sticks now, okay,
Speaker 13: but yeah, so yeah, yeah, we're gonna cook you up crusty.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 13: So you know what I'm saying. Now we done got
Speaker 13: the Oh shoot, well, crust lay down. Now we don't
Speaker 13: got the you know what I'm saying, We got the
Speaker 13: We gotta sprinkle that on. So now I pour the
Speaker 13: honey on top first, because that's gonna give it the
Speaker 13: stickiest part. You put that on once and now I'm
Speaker 13: turning this thing over about three or four times before
Speaker 13: I'm serving us first and doing this over and over.
Speaker 13: The first layer is honey, boom. Then I go pour
Speaker 13: some of cinnamon nut man, because it's gonna stick to
Speaker 13: the honey. I get my little brush painted on boom, boom,
Speaker 13: and then I poured sweet baby rays a little bit
Speaker 13: of a time on top. Then I cout another cook
Speaker 13: it for fifteen minutes, flip it over, do it again it,
Speaker 13: flip it, flip it, flip it, flip and flip it
Speaker 13: until I'm tired of flipping it. I don't really have
Speaker 13: no until I'm hungry and look good, and I just
Speaker 13: keep doing it. And by the man, I'm talking about
Speaker 13: like you got the rib, you got the thick layer
Speaker 13: of like glaze barbecue, and it's not it's not like
Speaker 13: all like too much juice. It's just like right on
Speaker 13: the rip. And then the rib's just falling off. Hey,
Speaker 13: you know, I gotta do it again. I have a
Speaker 13: million ribs in a minute.
Speaker 9: But yes, ladies and gentlemen, with the award winning and
Speaker 9: as far as I'm hearing, I'm done.
Speaker 11: Just from listening to that recipe.
Speaker 7: Oh wait, she singing and she rhyme too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna get to the We're gonna get to
Speaker 1: the music. But first ribs important.
Speaker 13: I just landed at six am because I just was thinking.
Speaker 13: I was like, if I would have known it was
Speaker 13: in my ribs like that, man, I could have hooked
Speaker 13: that up real quick.
Speaker 11: Man, you gotta show I got you show that. Yeah,
Speaker 11: you got way more important things.
Speaker 7: Your first roots picnic performance.
Speaker 13: Right, yes, no, no, no, no, no, I've done the
Speaker 13: Ruse picnic. I did Ruths Picnic in Philly, but it's
Speaker 13: the first Rust Picnic in New York period. So I'm
Speaker 13: so glad to be a part of that.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 11: I listened to your music, and I hear in a
Speaker 11: fantastic way, not in the the riveted at all. I'm
Speaker 11: definitely hearing some Lauren. I hear Missy, talk to me
Speaker 11: about your influences, like what uh, what kind of stuff
Speaker 11: did you grow up? Listening to you sing and rap
Speaker 11: like equally as well, which is very rare because like
Speaker 11: some cats can either do one or the other.
Speaker 1: You should know.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, you know, I tried every now and again,
Speaker 11: I get it right, but no, you have raw talent,
Speaker 11: and so talk to us about just honing that.
Speaker 1: Like what you listen to coming up? What was your start?
Speaker 13: I really loved music a lot so well. When I
Speaker 13: was very young, my mom had me singing under a
Speaker 13: little a little light with her. I was like six,
Speaker 13: and we used to sing like all kinds of different
Speaker 13: old school songs because that's what my mother plays. So
Speaker 13: she had me singing Frankie Liman, you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 13: she she was all about that life. So she had
Speaker 13: me on the Frankie Liman. She had my sister singing
Speaker 13: Whitney Houston's the Greatest Love of All I sung Dianna
Speaker 13: Warwick's that's what friends are food?
Speaker 1: Do you have to sing?
Speaker 11: Because I think it was the rite of fastage in
Speaker 11: every black like entertainer singing the Greatest Love of All
Speaker 11: at a talent show.
Speaker 1: Did you have to do that?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 13: You know at the time. See, that's what led me
Speaker 13: into rap because at the time, my sister could sing that,
Speaker 13: and I never got the chance because they my mom
Speaker 13: would be like, oh, you ain't got the chaps for that.
Speaker 13: You're gonna sing you know what you sing good, You're
Speaker 13: gonna sing Dion woll And I was like, and I
Speaker 13: would be like, cool, no disrespect to Leon, She's a
Speaker 13: legend and amazing. But I was like, this is not
Speaker 13: that hard. That's what the friends are, you know. I
Speaker 13: and my sister's getting to go. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 13: She's getting all the moments. I'm like, man. So I
Speaker 13: got into rap after that because I was getting tired
Speaker 13: of like told to saying this or that, and I
Speaker 13: was like, man, my sister could sing, Man, I don't
Speaker 13: need that.
Speaker 1: What was your first rap? What was your early hip hop? Shoot?
Speaker 13: Like my brother really because like, honestly, in my neighborhood,
Speaker 13: everybody rapped like that was just the way it was,
Speaker 13: like we hang out rap and my brothers were older,
Speaker 13: like my brother's a few years older than me, and
Speaker 13: his friends were older. But for some reason, we we
Speaker 13: all wanted up hanging out all the time. Like it
Speaker 13: was kind of strange, like it was.
Speaker 2: Shoot.
Speaker 13: I mean, you know, ninety three, oh wow, you know, yeah,
Speaker 13: so we was rapping, that's what was popping like. So
Speaker 13: you know, it was interesting though because I was probably
Speaker 13: about ten, and you know, but I was hanging out.
Speaker 13: Ever ever was hanging out, and it was just like
Speaker 13: lots going on. You know, we were like little adults
Speaker 13: and we were rapping and that body wrap. My brother
Speaker 13: rapped and everybody. I remember the first time I seen
Speaker 13: him rap and he was just like I don't know
Speaker 13: what he was saying, but I remember the word was
Speaker 13: like get off my ballsack.
Speaker 1: And everybody's like.
Speaker 20: I was like.
Speaker 13: Fishbowl and I was like, yo, that was dope, and
Speaker 13: I started like, actually I wanted to rap, and he
Speaker 13: started writing my wraps for me.
Speaker 1: My brother.
Speaker 13: He wrote me like two or three raps and they
Speaker 13: were dope and I would spit them and then people
Speaker 13: were like that sound good, but your brother wrote it
Speaker 13: and I was like, do.
Speaker 1: You remember any of those?
Speaker 9: Nah?
Speaker 13: Man, I mean I remember my early raps that I
Speaker 13: began to write, Like I think I don't remember anything
Speaker 13: he wrote because I was too young. But I quickly
Speaker 13: got out of that. I just started stealing his raps
Speaker 13: what I was permission and like rewriting him, like you
Speaker 13: know what I'm saying, because that's how I was getting
Speaker 13: my templates. And then I moved to a better neighborhood
Speaker 13: because it was real violent in that neighborhood. So it
Speaker 13: was like shooting all the time at robberies and everybody
Speaker 13: was fighting. I had so many fights, Like by that time,
Speaker 13: it was crazy.
Speaker 1: This is the Bronx.
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, this is the Bronx. So it was just
Speaker 13: a crazy time. So my mom was just trying to
Speaker 13: like get us away from there, so she moved us
Speaker 13: uptown to the Bronx. But it was a little bit better.
Speaker 13: These kids weren't as wild as the kids I grew
Speaker 13: up with earlier, the little adults that when we were with,
Speaker 13: These were actual children. Their parents really like were in
Speaker 13: there and like, so when I moved uptown, wasn't nobody
Speaker 13: really rapping like that? So I kind of like just chilled.
Speaker 13: I was like twelve, and I was just like trying
Speaker 13: to focus on like school, but I started writing like songs.
Speaker 1: Okay, and these were singing songs now yeah, yeah.
Speaker 13: Yeah, because because Montel Jordan came out with this is
Speaker 13: how We do It. And when it came out, I
Speaker 13: just got transferred to this new school. So you know,
Speaker 13: I didn't know anybody really in my class, and I'm
Speaker 13: sitting there and I remember hearing the song and I
Speaker 13: just was in this class, and I go, this is
Speaker 13: all we do. And the thing that everybody loved the
Speaker 13: best was out of there shine. And everybody in class
Speaker 13: was like yo, and I was saying every.
Speaker 21: Day that was.
Speaker 13: So after a while, I was just like I became
Speaker 13: that musical person. Everybody's like, yo, you funny musical. So
Speaker 13: they just called me Biggie.
Speaker 1: They yeah, man, why Biggie?
Speaker 13: Because I would rapping class and sing. And it got
Speaker 13: to a point like after the start of singing, I
Speaker 13: start being popular, you know. So I started loosening up.
Speaker 13: Just not the lunch when you come to lunch with
Speaker 13: we see me, like you know what I'm saying. We're
Speaker 13: all telling Everybody's like, oh oh, like Biggie Biggie and
Speaker 13: it was just like it was like and I was
Speaker 13: and you know what, honestly, I was young. I was
Speaker 13: in an awkward stage. My hair was really weird and
Speaker 13: like I was kind of fat. Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 13: I'm chummy, said yeah, okay, so I sounded like biggie.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 11: So I was reading you know you have you know,
Speaker 11: been working out and you dropped more than forty pounds.
Speaker 13: I dropped seventy five pounds.
Speaker 10: O pounds.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you are like.
Speaker 11: Tweeting talking about my life right now because that is
Speaker 11: my struggle because like I won't lose seventy five.
Speaker 1: Pounds, but I love real talk talk talk us through.
Speaker 9: This is a very good question that process, like how
Speaker 9: do you negotiate Well, first of all, congratulations on amazing,
Speaker 9: thank you, And how does that, you know, being in
Speaker 9: better shape working out, how do you work that into
Speaker 9: your creative time?
Speaker 1: Like recording does it do your creative time? Like how
Speaker 1: does that?
Speaker 13: Oh my wake gir out every morning. Every morning I
Speaker 13: wake up and I go to the gym. It's just
Speaker 13: at this point it's part of my life. I mean,
Speaker 13: I think what happens is this. You know, when you
Speaker 13: were young, you can eat whatever you want and it
Speaker 13: doesn't affect you. You can drop pounds really easy and
Speaker 13: it doesn't affect you. So as you get into your twenties,
Speaker 13: you begin to you still think this way, and it's
Speaker 13: not really necessarily that way all the time. You absolutely
Speaker 13: slows down. And I had gotten into a relationship and
Speaker 13: my partner can cook, and she was just like she
Speaker 13: was cooking and cooking. It was like she's putting sugar
Speaker 13: in my water. I was getting so fat. I blew up.
Speaker 1: I blew up.
Speaker 13: No, it was like she pushed a lot. It's like
Speaker 13: it's like I blew. I blew up like a tech,
Speaker 13: you know what I'm saying. I was so fat. I
Speaker 13: got to two hundred and forty pounds, you feel me.
Speaker 13: And and before that I wasn't really that big. I
Speaker 13: went through phases like blow up. I was at skinny,
Speaker 13: awkward fat stage at twelve. Then at sixteen I got hot.
Speaker 13: I thought I was a shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 13: I stayed this shit until like twenty four, and then
Speaker 13: I got a relationship, got chubby again, and I just
Speaker 13: kind of went back. I got the mortgage business. When
Speaker 13: I was there, I kind of got fat. But what
Speaker 13: what ultimately led It was just just coming to an
Speaker 13: understanding that a I wanted to be able to perform,
Speaker 13: and that was the main thing, Like I really love
Speaker 13: to perform, and I wanted to be able to move,
Speaker 13: and I wanted to feel good, and I wanted to
Speaker 13: fit clothes. I wanted to fit jeans. I wanted to
Speaker 13: fit designer jeans. That was really the main thing. I
Speaker 13: was like, I have to they don't. No, they don't
Speaker 13: make if anyway us. No, you know, like you would
Speaker 13: think that you know, I could fit a man's pants.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, they just like they don't make them. So
Speaker 13: I was like, you know what, I want to be
Speaker 13: able to perform, I want to look great. I want
Speaker 13: to buy clothes. I wasn't buying clothes. I was just
Speaker 13: like buying T shirts and stuff. And I wanted to
Speaker 13: just feel good. And it's the best antidepressant that there is,
Speaker 13: you know, like they're just working when you know you
Speaker 13: feel good and you're healthy, like nothing can get you down.
Speaker 13: You don't even have the money, but you feel good
Speaker 13: about yourself. It was just a dedication and what the
Speaker 13: first thing you have to realize when it comes to
Speaker 13: losing weight is that it's a lifestyle change, but it's
Speaker 13: only like hard for a period of time. So like
Speaker 13: it took me six months to lose forty pounds to
Speaker 13: look good enough to be like, damn, I'm there to
Speaker 13: keep me going right. And from that point on, I
Speaker 13: was no longer to struggle to even go to the
Speaker 13: gym because I felt I seen the results. I want
Speaker 13: to see more.
Speaker 1: Seeing those results, was that how you got over the
Speaker 1: to keep it or to make it a more permanent
Speaker 1: part of you.
Speaker 13: No, it was permanent. From the moment I decided to
Speaker 13: do it, I was like, that's it. I'm going on
Speaker 13: a diet. I went on a diet intense, died of
Speaker 13: four ounces, meet four ounces vegetables three times a day,
Speaker 13: broth and freaking two crackers a gallon of water. And
Speaker 13: that's what I had to do. And I was hungry,
Speaker 13: and I had to sit behind home sometimes a lot
Speaker 13: of the time and not drink. And I went to
Speaker 13: the gym three times a day, and I went to
Speaker 13: hiking at the same under saying very.
Speaker 1: Strong will like to be Yeah, you ain't doing anything.
Speaker 13: If you want to, if you really think about it,
Speaker 13: you only had I only had to do that for
Speaker 13: like six months to a year, and then now it's
Speaker 13: like I told through I would go based out on
Speaker 13: the milk I gained. I gave twenty pounds in the left.
Speaker 13: You know what I'm saying. But when I twenty pound
Speaker 13: I come home, I gonna skin like, damn, you messed up.
Speaker 13: Come on, all right, now it's salad. It's a salad.
Speaker 13: It's easier to go back. So it's just like it's
Speaker 13: like it's like a small period of time for you
Speaker 13: to change your whole entire life. But once you do
Speaker 13: it for one year, six months, one year, you're done,
Speaker 13: Like with the hardest part, you know how to do it.
Speaker 13: You're done, and you know what's healthy. You even like
Speaker 13: it honestly because you start to like, you like feeling like,
Speaker 13: all right, I'm not eating nothing too heavy.
Speaker 1: I can't even make it this week. Let's look, I'm
Speaker 1: sitting down, man, I'm wearing back gym visit.
Speaker 13: You know what I'm saying. Three gym visits a week
Speaker 13: from being what you want. It's not about food for
Speaker 13: you really, because you're small. It's just like when you're bigger,
Speaker 13: you're trying to lose weight. So it's like kind of
Speaker 13: a little bit more of a struggle and what you
Speaker 13: know what, that's what they say. But you know what,
Speaker 13: as a woman, I will tell you it is not
Speaker 13: it's not talk.
Speaker 7: Wait a minute, come on. They say that men shed
Speaker 7: weight much faster.
Speaker 13: They do shed weight faster with less. We just have
Speaker 13: to do the max and we'll shed the same. So
Speaker 13: basically like because they can because they got more tustostone
Speaker 13: and the muscle some of the things, that it will
Speaker 13: go to the right places. We have water and it
Speaker 13: just goes to the wrong places. So that just means
Speaker 13: that we don't cheat and we it will succeed. It's
Speaker 13: just you can't cheat. Men can cheat a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't think the water can go to a wrong
Speaker 1: place anywhere. On a woman, I like some problem with
Speaker 1: none of that.
Speaker 13: I don't mind.
Speaker 1: You know, if you got the tiger stripes, got a
Speaker 1: little hell damage, you know, a.
Speaker 13: Couple of stretch mosses or whatever. You know, it's like,
Speaker 13: no one's perfect, and honestly, there's not the wrong stretch
Speaker 13: masses like whatever. But it's just more about how you feel.
Speaker 13: And really, honestly, you only get one body, and the
Speaker 13: older you get the more you need that body to
Speaker 13: work the way you want it to. And if you
Speaker 13: don't work it out and you don't take care of
Speaker 13: it now, it will affect you at some points. So
Speaker 13: it's either an hour or later. The harder it gets
Speaker 13: is the older you get, it harder it gets. So anytime,
Speaker 13: the time is.
Speaker 9: Now, as this conversation is so right on time, because
Speaker 9: I've been trying to get my ass back into them,
Speaker 9: and like I just kind of needed that push.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 13: We just hard.
Speaker 2: Es.
Speaker 1: I know we should do a quest Team Supreme Fit Challenge, like, so, well,
Speaker 1: see if we do this, then I actually have to
Speaker 1: follow through. We got to hold each other count.
Speaker 13: Think about it. You lose three pounds a week on
Speaker 13: a good diet, like literally drinking a gallon of water
Speaker 13: a day, eating three four ounces of chicken, four ounces
Speaker 13: of vegetable or lean meat and vegetable three times a day.
Speaker 13: And when you get hungry sometimes it's not hungry, you're thirsty.
Speaker 13: Body process is the same, And if you honestly drink
Speaker 13: a fucking bottle of water before you eat your meal,
Speaker 13: you'll be so full by the time you're like, you
Speaker 13: just gotta eat slow. It's like all mental, bro, your
Speaker 13: stomach does not. You don't need that much to survive.
Speaker 13: You don't, and it's just healthy for you.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 13: It is good for you, and honestly it takes you
Speaker 13: can if you want to lose twenty pounds right three
Speaker 13: nine twelve. You know what I say?
Speaker 7: Yeah, y'all doing really I was.
Speaker 1: Just this in two months.
Speaker 13: But you feel what I'm saying, like, are you really
Speaker 13: really look at it? Like boom boom boom. I swear
Speaker 13: you're just it is just changing.
Speaker 1: We're sitting here with Tish. Yeah, what I'm saying.
Speaker 11: Tish itrible rapper, singer, rib Cooker, extraordinary motivational speaker. She
Speaker 11: is like doing all kinds of ministry right now. This
Speaker 11: is prest Love Supreme Opendor with broadcasting live from the roots.
Speaker 11: Picnic Uh, I wan't talk about your newest project dedication
Speaker 11: dedicated to?
Speaker 1: Yes, who is this project dedicated to?
Speaker 13: Dedicated to? Is dedicated to anyone who's ever felt like,
Speaker 13: because of where they're from or their circumstances, that they
Speaker 13: could not do more or they were in a bad place.
Speaker 13: And I'm also dedicated to letting these people and everyone
Speaker 13: know that no matter what it is, you want to
Speaker 13: do with your life.
Speaker 1: You can do it.
Speaker 13: You just have to be dedicated to and you know,
Speaker 13: it's just a lot about the story. For me, the
Speaker 13: story just is is inspirational because I've been through so
Speaker 13: many things and I've still managed to be happy and
Speaker 13: be a nice person and continue to do what I love.
Speaker 13: So I hope that inspires people.
Speaker 11: What are some of the things that you've been through
Speaker 11: that you felt woof?
Speaker 13: I mean, you know, well, first I was in a
Speaker 13: foster home when I was a kid for a few
Speaker 13: years and that sucked very badly. Lots of incidents in there,
Speaker 13: you know, lost a lot of friends to just different
Speaker 13: depths of violence, uh, drug abuse, accidents, jail, uh, my
Speaker 13: cousin got killed, and just lots of stuff happens in life.
Speaker 13: I'm sure everybody has their own hardships, but sometimes when
Speaker 13: these things happen to you, you feel like you're defeated
Speaker 13: and you think that it's over, but it's really not.
Speaker 13: So my whole point is like, one bad day doesn't
Speaker 13: make a bad month, one bad month doesn't make a
Speaker 13: bad life. It's just like to stay happy and stay
Speaker 13: dedicated to being happy because it's free, honestly, and Uh,
Speaker 13: it's it's the one thing that really can't no one
Speaker 13: take away from you, so you can give that to yourself.
Speaker 11: Do you ever feel, uh sometimes like being a person
Speaker 11: that like made it out of that, you know, that
Speaker 11: situation that neyti me. Do you ever sometimes feel like
Speaker 11: you know survivor's guild or do you feel like the
Speaker 11: one that made Like? What is cause I have those feelings,
Speaker 11: you know for me sometimes, But what is that like
Speaker 11: for you to know that you're one of the few,
Speaker 11: if not the only, you need to escape that hardship?
Speaker 13: Well, it is definitely difficult though, and I definitely ha
Speaker 13: have felt that feeling. I guess more in the beginning
Speaker 13: of coming into any successes. When I was in the
Speaker 13: mortgage business and I was making money and and I
Speaker 13: was helping everybody, it still had it. It came with
Speaker 13: its feeling of damn, I wish that they were just
Speaker 13: good without me. Or and I moved to California and
Speaker 13: I've been there for five years, you know, getting the
Speaker 13: news from home that's not always feel pleasant. Yeah, but
Speaker 13: you know, ultimately everyone's life is in their hands. I
Speaker 13: have to come to terms of that. And also I'm
Speaker 13: not giving anything. I'm working so hard to achieve the
Speaker 13: things that I want and I always have, and I
Speaker 13: think that that's the only thing that can get a
Speaker 13: person where they want to be. So ultimately, no, I
Speaker 13: feel like when I get these people that have things
Speaker 13: going on, or I feel these feelings, or people make
Speaker 13: me feel this way, I make them feel like, well,
Speaker 13: I can help you do something. But if you're not
Speaker 13: willing to do something, and then this is on you exactly,
Speaker 13: you know, and it's not, it's not, it's it's never.
Speaker 13: It's nothing to do with me.
Speaker 11: When you say you're working so hard, what is your
Speaker 11: average day like, what does in terms of your creative processes,
Speaker 11: it's something you do every day.
Speaker 1: What is just a day in the life of tissue?
Speaker 13: Well, they very surry. It's been, it's been through cycles.
Speaker 13: So when I first got to LA, every day I
Speaker 13: was in studio sessions about three or four day I
Speaker 13: was recording no me and time met I hop Oh random,
Speaker 13: you know, me and Jill Scott mad at a party,
Speaker 13: you know, just hanging out by the pool freestyling for
Speaker 13: ten hours, So just random stuff. LA is very small,
Speaker 13: the in the street. But when I first got there,
Speaker 13: I didn't know anyone. I wasn't published. I needed to
Speaker 13: make money or figure something out. So I just went
Speaker 13: to as many sessions as I could. I worked so
Speaker 13: much I would sometimes not even be able to speak,
Speaker 13: but I could sing, and I would just go record.
Speaker 13: So that was the first two years, and then the
Speaker 13: third year I spent recording this album, and days were like, uh,
Speaker 13: those days were actu. Actually I was going through a
Speaker 13: lot of financial strain and I was trying to put
Speaker 13: together the record. I was still very overweight, and I
Speaker 13: was not I wasn't managed, and I was just trying
Speaker 13: to figure it out. I did three or four records
Speaker 13: every three or four months. Wow, you know, So it
Speaker 13: was interesting that period. And in twenty fourteen, I spent
Speaker 13: touring a bit and like performing much more and started
Speaker 13: spreading awareness about the album, you know, and it's just
Speaker 13: been kind of like it just changes. But right now,
Speaker 13: my daily day consists of I wake up in the morning,
Speaker 13: I go to the gym first thing. As soon as
Speaker 13: I wake up, I go to gym, spend about an
Speaker 13: hour there, come home and walk the dogs, and you know,
Speaker 13: just start working on the phones, you know, finding out
Speaker 13: what I have to do for the day. Right now
Speaker 13: I'm recording a new album, so I'm doing a lot
Speaker 13: of that and then bouncing around to performances.
Speaker 1: When you record, are you record yourself? Do you have engineers?
Speaker 13: Yeah, I have enginet. I record at Universal Studios, my publisher,
Speaker 13: and they are very supportive. They're the best publisher in
Speaker 13: the world. I think they've been great to me and
Speaker 13: they have always been behind me. So I used their
Speaker 13: studio and I have an engineer, and I have my
Speaker 13: producer friends kind of just all hang out power on
Speaker 13: the studio and I usually have ideas that I have
Speaker 13: already before I come to the studio, okay, so that
Speaker 13: we can kind of work on. And this album is
Speaker 13: just so awesome because I got dedicated to out the way.
Speaker 13: Dedicated to is the autobiography. Basically, this album is more
Speaker 13: about like what I'm doing in la or like or
Speaker 13: like love. It's gonna be much more sexual. There's a
Speaker 13: lot more going on on the second album, so I'm
Speaker 13: very excited about it.
Speaker 1: To Yeah, good to hear.
Speaker 13: I wanted to tell people the beginning. I feel like, uh,
Speaker 13: people skip steps and I don't wanna skip any So
Speaker 13: although I I was dedicated to is about how I
Speaker 13: felt from birth to maybe like in you know, early twenties.
Speaker 13: Now I'm in a whole nother place mentally, but I
Speaker 13: felt the need to make people sure people understood, like, Yo,
Speaker 13: this did not calm without God.
Speaker 3: This.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's so good to hear you say that.
Speaker 11: I have a son, My youngest w oldest son is fifteen,
Speaker 11: and he wants to do music, and I have to
Speaker 11: explain to him that I think for kids coming up
Speaker 11: now on social media, pretty much all they're seeing is
Speaker 11: like a highlight reel, and it's trying to get them
Speaker 11: to understand that, like you're seeing a very carefully curated
Speaker 11: selection of shots from a person's life. So you'll see
Speaker 11: you know, Rick Ross, Drake, whoever on the jet, but
Speaker 11: you don't see what it took for them to get
Speaker 11: that jet, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So for you to hear you say that, you take
Speaker 1: people through the whole journey and not just.
Speaker 13: Yeah and still building. There's a lot of glamorizing that
Speaker 13: happens outside of the industry. How I try not to.
Speaker 13: It's not like I'm trying to deglamorize it, but I
Speaker 13: try to be a little bit more real realistic about
Speaker 13: it because I don't want to. I don't like that
Speaker 13: all kids want to be artists and all kids want
Speaker 13: to be basketball players and all. Because when I was
Speaker 13: a kid, you know, there was various fucking professions people
Speaker 13: said about. I'm gonna be a doctor, I mean, a lawyer,
Speaker 13: a fucking secretary, I mean fucking president. You know what
Speaker 13: I'm saying. Now it's like, I'm be a rapper. I'm
Speaker 13: be a trapper. I'm gonna be a rapper. It's like
Speaker 13: and it's ridiculous, and it's like, so for me, I
Speaker 13: try to tell them, like, look, before you get all
Speaker 13: those tattoos on your face and think that you're just
Speaker 13: gonna come in here rap about nothing and you're gonna
Speaker 13: make it, Yeah, you might want to think about it
Speaker 13: because there's not any money and unless you're trying to
Speaker 13: like really like these rappers, I'm not how they getting
Speaker 13: these changes. I guess they're getting them for freak. I
Speaker 13: don't know. But there's no freaking real money right now
Speaker 13: unless you really, really really are doing something. Now, there's
Speaker 13: a few that they pop up, and you know, you
Speaker 13: get your time, But if you're spending all your money
Speaker 13: foolishly then you're you're getta be right back. And now
Speaker 13: and nowadays, with the drugs being so heavily promoted in music,
Speaker 13: that's a big campaign. I'm running now on my on
Speaker 13: my Instagram and social networks. I'm fighting lean. I hate Lean.
Speaker 13: I think it's I know it's synthetic heroin, and I
Speaker 13: know that it's being marketed in our communities and to
Speaker 13: our children via rap music. And I know it's no
Speaker 13: different that when crack was put on our corners in
Speaker 13: the eighties.
Speaker 1: No different whatsoever.
Speaker 13: Yeah, and it's so much worse than the eighties because
Speaker 13: at least in the eighties, no one knew. I mean,
Speaker 13: I guess it's the scene, but I guess crack was
Speaker 13: just so fucked By the nineties, you're like, don't do crack.
Speaker 13: It's like so obvious. But now it's like lead.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it was different, Like I think in the eighties
Speaker 11: and in nineties rap we celebrated the drug dealer, which
Speaker 11: I mean had its own set of dysfunctions. Anyway, that's
Speaker 11: probably as well. We celebrate the drug dealer, but now
Speaker 11: we celebrate the drug user. And I'm like, how the
Speaker 11: fuck did we get here?
Speaker 13: I mean, even then in the eighties if you really
Speaker 13: think about it, like the biggies and the drug rappers,
Speaker 13: right they said in retrospective points points of view, like
Speaker 13: I used to sell this, now I'm doing that, and
Speaker 13: now I used to do it the eve motherfucker's like
Speaker 13: I'm shooting niggas to day.
Speaker 7: Right now, right now, y'all gotta break down because I'm a.
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, horrible Okay, we.
Speaker 1: Gonn break that Lean.
Speaker 11: Okay for some people who made are culturally unaware listeners.
Speaker 13: Look, it's like it's horrible, okay.
Speaker 9: Lean its sizeling is a synthetic, fucking uhod substance.
Speaker 1: It's like spam.
Speaker 13: I'm glad somebody knew what ciceling was. I was like,
Speaker 13: is that Jamaican for sizzling?
Speaker 11: No, No, that's okay. So Lean is a substance. It
Speaker 11: is like coding mixed was promotouzine. It's promotzine and people
Speaker 11: will miss it.
Speaker 1: Mix it with so like this future. Yeah no, I know,
Speaker 1: I listen.
Speaker 13: It's in the music and promoting it to children that
Speaker 13: are fourteen and fifteen. Let's just be clear. It's fucking heroin.
Speaker 13: They put it in a soda with some candy and
Speaker 13: they stir it up. They look like damn assholes, and
Speaker 13: they make people think that that's cool. It's horrible. It's
Speaker 13: fucking horrible.
Speaker 11: Shout out whocame his exactly. Oh he dropped the gut.
Speaker 11: He is like vegetables and now, and you know what
Speaker 11: he is.
Speaker 13: That's his past right in front of him. That's his
Speaker 13: past right in front of him. I fucking love Gucci
Speaker 13: Man because you know what, I didn't even listen to
Speaker 13: his music. I only knew when Gucci Man's song was
Speaker 13: a very freaky girl.
Speaker 1: You know, scuse me.
Speaker 13: I always was missed on a lot of that era.
Speaker 13: So you know when I seen Gucci Man come out
Speaker 13: of jail and like, just be this amazing example of
Speaker 13: what not wanting to be in prison can do to you,
Speaker 13: because I'm not gonna say what prison can do to you.
Speaker 13: It's not wanting to be in prison that does this
Speaker 13: to you. It's like, oh, ship, I don't want to
Speaker 13: be here, and like I'm like, thank you, and I
Speaker 13: just hope and pray that he will make music that
Speaker 13: reflects his new behavior and his new train of thought,
Speaker 13: which I think he will. And not only that, but
Speaker 13: he's also a very respective man in the business and
Speaker 13: in the street. And I hope that this will bring
Speaker 13: some light to the shit, because this shit is killing
Speaker 13: these kids. Man, they fucked up. They walking around here
Speaker 13: looking like the zombies. And I've seen it. I've seen
Speaker 13: it too many times. I'm tired.
Speaker 9: We're broadcasting live today from the Roots Picnic in New
Speaker 9: York City.
Speaker 11: It's going down. I joined by three young men today.
Speaker 11: These brothers, Uh, their sound to me, it like belies
Speaker 11: their age. I listened to it, and they sound extremely polished,
Speaker 11: you know what I'm saying for their ages, way more
Speaker 11: polished than I was at fucking eighteen. My demo's eighteen
Speaker 11: didn't sound shit like what they were. My shit was
Speaker 11: actually really fucking bad. But uh, you guys are adult.
Speaker 11: Dylan Martin and Jaden, ladies, gentlemen, give a big quest
Speaker 11: love supreme round of applause.
Speaker 1: For the smashing hearts. Yeah, yeah, how y'all brother's feeling
Speaker 1: the day?
Speaker 14: Man? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Alright?
Speaker 14: So is it so?
Speaker 1: Have y'all? Have they performed performed yet? Yeah?
Speaker 10: We just got off stage.
Speaker 1: How did it go? How was it? It's crazy, like
Speaker 1: like the.
Speaker 20: Vibe of the crowd and everything like that was awesome
Speaker 20: and especially playing like for the first time at.
Speaker 1: The Roots Festival in New York. What was that so
Speaker 1: on on stage? What's the set up? Who does what?
Speaker 21: Since I I was played keys and I sing and
Speaker 21: I playing guitar and you have organ up on stage?
Speaker 12: Yeah, I had an organ today. That was the B three,
Speaker 12: said the.
Speaker 1: Good old him B three.
Speaker 9: What the preachers ring out and it's time to take collection,
Speaker 9: you know, it's time to get that money to the
Speaker 9: B three.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what's up.
Speaker 11: Okay, So I think it's you Dylan, Yeah, uh that
Speaker 11: I can clearly see.
Speaker 1: The son of Dwayne Wiggins.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's both many brothers. Okay, away, I want to
Speaker 11: talk about you guys a sound.
Speaker 1: Listen to the EP.
Speaker 11: I was pulling it up, like I said, I mean,
Speaker 11: just stuff that sounds really really polished, and it sounds
Speaker 11: very very focused.
Speaker 9: Then it just has a lot of I don't know,
Speaker 9: it's just a lot of maturity way beyond you guys's ages.
Speaker 14: You know.
Speaker 11: It just sounds very very you know, on point, and
Speaker 11: just way more focused than I was at eighteen. Uh,
Speaker 11: tell me that, you know, being that you know your
Speaker 11: father was who is for those for the listeners.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 11: Their father, Uh, Dylan and Jayden's father.
Speaker 9: Uh is Dwayne Wiggins from Tony Tony Tony, an incredible
Speaker 9: H R and B soul group from Oakland.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Okay, I'm thinking Oakland Stroke
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I don't want to up demohamma right Domenhamma.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: And that's right.
Speaker 9: So big ups, the big ups to them. So being uh,
Speaker 9: did you guys growing up like, what was that like?
Speaker 9: Was being around the music?
Speaker 14: Like?
Speaker 1: What did that play in influence? Yeah?
Speaker 20: Definitely, of course, you know, where you grow up and
Speaker 20: how you grow up definitely plays an influence of what
Speaker 20: you're gonna do. So the fact that our dad and
Speaker 20: his dad before that was in the music played guitar
Speaker 20: bluesh player was obviously you know we're gonna We're gonna
Speaker 20: be musicians no matter what.
Speaker 9: Wow.
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean not like forcing, but it's just like
Speaker 20: it just came to us naturally. It's what we wanted
Speaker 20: to do.
Speaker 1: So when did you guys start playing what?
Speaker 12: They just I don't remember not playing.
Speaker 21: Yeah, and then we started getting lessons probably when we're
Speaker 21: like seven five.
Speaker 7: Dwayne Wig is your father rail your uncle? Were they
Speaker 7: harder on y'all.
Speaker 21: Honestly, I didn't even really know that there was a
Speaker 21: Tony Tony Tony until like maybe around fifteen fourteen. I
Speaker 21: went to a public school and everybody.
Speaker 1: Was like, do you know where your dad is?
Speaker 10: You know your I was like, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 11: But that's I mean, but that's interesting though, I you know,
Speaker 11: I was like, I said, I have a son name
Speaker 11: name Dylan, and it's it's very similar. You know your
Speaker 11: your kids, don't I mean, because you know, growing up
Speaker 11: it's just dad, Like you don't really know. I think
Speaker 11: it was the same thing my kids were younger, and
Speaker 11: it was just Okay, Daddy's going somewhere and he comes.
Speaker 1: Back with money for food and that's just the extent
Speaker 1: of it. But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 11: But then as you get older and people see it,
Speaker 11: it's like, oh, ship your dad is, it's on so
Speaker 11: and so. Were initially were they supportive of you guys
Speaker 11: like going into music?
Speaker 10: Definitely?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 21: I wanted to be a basketball player though at first,
Speaker 21: Oh yeah, they were supporting me doing that too, like
Speaker 21: coming to all the games and like we go out
Speaker 21: to the state to do games and ship.
Speaker 1: This what's up? You guys ages. Jayden, I'm eighteen.
Speaker 21: Eighteen as well, Martin, I'm twenty.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, eighteen eighteen and twenty, Dylan twenty.
Speaker 12: What am I doing with.
Speaker 1: Y'all making me questions about right now?
Speaker 14: So?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, aged eighteen and twenty.
Speaker 11: And for what I understand you, Dylan, I have already
Speaker 11: your like the musical advisor or the for Insecure, I
Speaker 11: wish I.
Speaker 21: Was the advisor, but okay, I'm the scoring assistant, so
Speaker 21: like coming up with the scores behind certain scenes and
Speaker 21: like change an emotion with the score.
Speaker 1: That's what I do. And that is for for for
Speaker 1: the listeners.
Speaker 11: That is for HBO's news show Insecure, featuring Easter ray
Speaker 11: of Awkward Black Girl fame from the Internet. She has
Speaker 11: a new show entitled Insecure that is out now, and
Speaker 11: he what was the exact title?
Speaker 15: The scoring that's what it's labeled as.
Speaker 21: I don't even know. Yeah, that whole process is pretty easy,
Speaker 21: like because you you know how much work goes into it,
Speaker 21: and then when it comes on the screen, it just
Speaker 21: looks like so effortless, like even though a lot of
Speaker 21: things were like timed up and like we versed out
Speaker 21: and all this kind of stuff. So that's dope to
Speaker 21: see that happen. And then we got a song in
Speaker 21: there too. We have a song called Girls that we
Speaker 21: haven't released that's gonna be on the show. So it's
Speaker 21: not in the first it's not in the first episode.
Speaker 21: It's gonna be in the season though.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, it's in the season. Yeah, okay, got you,
Speaker 1: got you, got you. That's it's really dope.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 11: So being that y'all have accomplished more in eighteen years
Speaker 11: and most people have.
Speaker 9: What we're looking at you, Bill, I've accomplished some ship
Speaker 9: that the situation, No, it was it helps from him.
Speaker 9: That was you have the G, the E, the T,
Speaker 9: the films.
Speaker 1: It's hard and.
Speaker 14: Hard.
Speaker 19: It looks like you're like you said, like that ship
Speaker 19: comes easy.
Speaker 1: That's just not easy.
Speaker 19: It's very mathematical and very precise and and time.
Speaker 7: But he could do it.
Speaker 1: He has How much time do you guys spend on
Speaker 1: an episode? Would you say a week? A week?
Speaker 21: Yeah, But there's a lot of changes that go into it, right,
Speaker 21: like little changes, and so then if they want to
Speaker 21: change one thing, we gotta rush back to the studio change.
Speaker 12: It before the day.
Speaker 1: Wow, before the day. Wow.
Speaker 11: Yeah, man, so I guess. So my question where do
Speaker 11: you go from here? Like, what do you guys see
Speaker 11: yourselves on the next cause, I mean, honestly, what you're
Speaker 11: doing now is generally thought of, I mean, just working
Speaker 11: the music.
Speaker 1: That's goals, and that's like kind of like.
Speaker 9: The form and grill of most musicians, Like they hope
Speaker 9: to get to the point where you're doing now.
Speaker 1: So what is the next step for you? Guys?
Speaker 21: We're gonna keep taking it day by day. It's like,
Speaker 21: cause everything we've done so far we haven't really planned out.
Speaker 21: It's just like we've been following what we wanna do
Speaker 21: and it just happened. So we just gonna keep following
Speaker 21: that and see what happens.
Speaker 11: Has has your dad is he giving you any advice
Speaker 11: in terms of okay, so let me tell you what
Speaker 11: not to do?
Speaker 1: Like what what has that been?
Speaker 12: Sometimes?
Speaker 21: Yeah, they're like my Ray, I mean my dad and
Speaker 21: Uncle Ray are both like they give their opinions a
Speaker 21: lot and they have no no filter, no.
Speaker 15: Sounds sloppy.
Speaker 11: So what they I mean, as much as you get shipped,
Speaker 11: you know, without like what what what's some of the
Speaker 11: Uncle Ray and and Pops.
Speaker 20: Well, Ray called Martin the weakest link of our band.
Speaker 18: You could say, a bunch of ships.
Speaker 7: Said the whole time.
Speaker 1: I had to call him out.
Speaker 21: He said that on the first week, like when we
Speaker 21: started rehearsing at his studio, and then now he's like,
Speaker 21: Martin tearing that ship up.
Speaker 1: The baby was just trying to lot to fire. That's
Speaker 1: what it was.
Speaker 12: That's what he said. He was like, watch him come back.
Speaker 7: But but Martin, you're the drummer, right, so like do
Speaker 7: you what are you? Who are some of your drummer influences?
Speaker 7: I mean, you don't have to say that.
Speaker 8: That's what I don't know.
Speaker 18: Everybody was ask that.
Speaker 1: Just listen to so many people.
Speaker 21: It's kind of hard like everybody from like are blaky
Speaker 21: like back in the day to like Thomas Pridging.
Speaker 18: You feel me like like a lot of people.
Speaker 1: That's dope, man, that's dope. Nope, you passed that test.
Speaker 7: Love, don't worry.
Speaker 11: He won't he won't be mad. He won't be mad
Speaker 11: at all. Well, brothers, thank you so much for coming by,
Speaker 11: Thank you for your time.
Speaker 1: I know these things.
Speaker 11: Doing this on a show day is like not the
Speaker 11: most fun thing to do, but you know, I'm in
Speaker 11: I'm into your music, and please just stay keep doing
Speaker 11: what you're doing, man, keep doing what you're doing. Being
Speaker 11: blessed to have people in your corner that like kind
Speaker 11: of can guide you and hopefully can keep you from
Speaker 11: making a lot of mistakes that a lot of young
Speaker 11: artists make. And keep working, keep refinding your sound. And
Speaker 11: you guys are talented.
Speaker 1: Man. Thank you really appreciate that. Hey, what's up? You
Speaker 1: always question Love?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: And you're listening to a special roots picnic addition of
Speaker 1: the Question Love Supreme Show. We're an hour number two
Speaker 1: of the show, and I just wanted to jump in
Speaker 1: there because I wanted to make sure you guys really
Speaker 1: understood how important these two dudes coming up next are
Speaker 1: to the world of hip hop. Stretching Barbido Stretch Armstrong
Speaker 1: Babido Garcia. They hosted a radio show in New York
Speaker 1: in the nineties that fundamentally changed hip hop in our
Speaker 1: lives forever. What they would do is feature exclusive demo
Speaker 1: tapes and in studio freestyles for many unsign hip hop
Speaker 1: artists and gave them a chance to be discovered. Look,
Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking. Unsign hip hop artists are
Speaker 1: on a radio show. Big deal, but you know it
Speaker 1: was a big deal and there was a turning point
Speaker 1: for many artists. Here's the short list of some of
Speaker 1: the acts that were featured on the show before anyone
Speaker 1: knew who their names were, Nas Big Pun, jay Z, Busta, Rohms,
Speaker 1: Fat Joe, Cameron, dmx Wu Tang Clan, the Fujis, Teleib Kwali,
Speaker 1: Big l, Notorious, Big Stretching, Barbido. Really really changed the
Speaker 1: game forever with the radio show, and it really had
Speaker 1: a huge impact on the roots and they were important
Speaker 1: to me and any kid that loved hip hop. Uh So,
Speaker 1: I really wanted to make sure anyone listening knew how
Speaker 1: important these dudes were to hip hop. Oh and their
Speaker 1: documentary is really, really, really amazing. Check it out. Now
Speaker 1: back to the show.
Speaker 9: We're gathered here today with two luminaries, special luminaris, gentlemen.
Speaker 1: But question, I'm like, I'm like Charlie Brown, I'm not
Speaker 1: even the star of my own Christmas.
Speaker 11: Special, the man of a million one jobs. He was
Speaker 11: able to step away from the drum kit and come in.
Speaker 1: And so it's always because our special guest are here
Speaker 1: without without without without these two literally I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean there, I don't know if they are the
Speaker 1: Padlof's Bell of hip hop or not.
Speaker 18: But that's a new one.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, you know, way back in even
Speaker 1: back before we got signed, I remember one of the
Speaker 1: first like the most exciting international things that ever happened
Speaker 1: to the Square Roots, back when we were still busking
Speaker 1: on South Street, was the fact that we got invited
Speaker 1: to play an event for Barbido, who I guess you
Speaker 1: just recently left his def Jam post your job at
Speaker 1: Jeff Jam and you were just about to start the
Speaker 1: show up at Columbia, and so that was like a
Speaker 1: big deal, like super big deal. Anyway, I think, did
Speaker 1: I just take over this introduction? Ladies and gentlemen, please
Speaker 1: welcome to the show stretch and Bob Yeah, wait as
Speaker 1: we need it, you got it. You make it official.
Speaker 21: Thank you.
Speaker 11: I just want to I just want to start off
Speaker 11: by saying that it is one of my life goals.
Speaker 11: It's one of my life goals to be as happy
Speaker 11: one day in my life, to be as happy as Babido.
Speaker 1: Was doing the ad libs at the end and at the.
Speaker 2: End of.
Speaker 9: Really Puss and I get and I get lost man.
Speaker 18: We recorded that in my credit h M F.
Speaker 22: Doom brought his sampler, and you know, there was a
Speaker 22: lot of producers at the time who used to come
Speaker 22: by stress the same thing. We you know, we both
Speaker 22: have a ton of stories of cats coming to our
Speaker 22: credit Ball Records. But dude was like, y'all, I'm going
Speaker 22: to Ball Record and I'm gonna bring my sampler and
Speaker 22: and you know, he recorded. He looped it up there
Speaker 22: and he brought the mic and he was like, yo,
Speaker 22: just say some stuff at the at the end, I
Speaker 22: was like, all right, Wow, I was thinking about you
Speaker 22: know that death jam song from eighty five Russell Rush.
Speaker 1: Y yeah, cold rock stuff.
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, I was thinking about that too when I
Speaker 18: was like doing my little.
Speaker 1: Cold rock stuff Russell Rush, Did y'all do that whole
Speaker 1: record in your at your crib?
Speaker 14: No?
Speaker 18: No, no, no, just that just the rhymes like down man, y'all.
Speaker 11: Want to talk about particularly Fondalum Records, which was one
Speaker 11: of the most uniquely named.
Speaker 12: Yes, I still it was a subsidiary of Squeeze Him.
Speaker 1: Fondalum Records.
Speaker 11: Yeah, much like what a mirror I was saying, and
Speaker 11: what you guys did for his band uh, well, my
Speaker 11: first group, Little Brother.
Speaker 1: I remember when ab B Bennie B.
Speaker 11: I remember him telling us that y'all were playing our.
Speaker 9: Stuff, and I was like, holy ship, that was we
Speaker 9: had a ride to us like stretching Bobles playing.
Speaker 1: That's like that was little. Did you know?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 12: What was your arrival back then? Was nearly a memory?
Speaker 22: Let me let me backtrack a little bit, just to
Speaker 22: revise quest Love's history. So the relationship between the Roots
Speaker 22: and Me and Stretches radio show actually dates back to
Speaker 22: a cat I don't remember his name right now, but
Speaker 22: he had a hip hop.
Speaker 18: Show, Aj aj sh That was my former managers, yeah,
Speaker 18: on Drexel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, aj was the Stretching Babido of Philadelphia, and I used.
Speaker 22: To send them records and so from eighty nine to
Speaker 22: ninety three, I was promotions rep at Deaf Jam. So
Speaker 22: he sent me Organics CD when it was pre released
Speaker 22: and brought it up to the show. Me and Stretch
Speaker 22: played that this is like probably I guess ninety three, yeah,
Speaker 22: ninety three. And then so we had started on the
Speaker 22: radioho in nineteen ninety had been given love to plenty
Speaker 22: Philly artists that was like nothing brand new.
Speaker 18: I mean three times dough. Yeah, I mean all all
Speaker 18: all them.
Speaker 22: But but then I was I was also hosting unsigned
Speaker 22: art the showcases at the New Yorkan Poets Cafe. Prior
Speaker 22: to that, I was doing them at the Village Gate.
Speaker 22: It was a jazz meats hip hop showcase called Bebop,
Speaker 22: which eventually became All That, and the Roots played that
Speaker 22: pre to Geffen signing. So there's a lot of organic,
Speaker 22: you know, messing of the two stretching Bob and the
Speaker 22: Roots from early early on and then you know, as
Speaker 22: it goes on and black Dog comes up solo, I.
Speaker 1: Was, I was going to add that that actual show,
Speaker 1: even though I physically wasn't there because Roselle was beatboxing.
Speaker 1: I was, I was stuck on a gospel tour, but
Speaker 1: it was it wasn't like you know, Ralph the Box
Speaker 1: of God just named Lelo Thomas. No, it wasn't that
Speaker 1: type of gospel tour like uh uh. Our bass player
Speaker 1: at Hub had a friend who did gospel music that
Speaker 1: basically toured churches like we toured nightclubs. So I just
Speaker 1: happened to you know, it was like extra money, which
Speaker 1: it's one of five hundred bucks for like two weeks
Speaker 1: of work, so I wasn't there, so Rozelle they got
Speaker 1: Rozelle to beat box the drums instead. And so I
Speaker 1: was in Oberland, Kansas and in the cornfields and listening
Speaker 1: to them on long distance like like so you're on
Speaker 1: the phone, I'm on the phone, and uh one of
Speaker 1: my managers, Richard, was on a pay phone playing playing
Speaker 1: the and and then and they were playing I know
Speaker 1: the roots were live, like oh, this was live on
Speaker 1: the show and you. But it was that show that
Speaker 1: the an r that eventually he signed us to Geffen Well,
Speaker 1: Wendy Well, Derek Jackson, and uh the late friend France.
Speaker 1: She just passed away, Franny. Uh, it's escaping me right now.
Speaker 7: Not the heart.
Speaker 1: Yes, she's still in my min Spira, thank you for
Speaker 1: saying that. I don't know why the head not the art,
Speaker 1: I mean thinking of Francesca spirit. But yeah, Francesco Spira
Speaker 1: passed away, like uh like they used to work brush, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she passed away like like three months ago.
Speaker 18: Yeah, we used to work together when I was Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Her and Derek Jackson. Because I always I always have
Speaker 1: a tendency to kill the mood.
Speaker 7: I was like a mere announce another death a total hashtags.
Speaker 1: It's thanks for coming. I'm doing so well. Sorry, we're
Speaker 1: gonna read it anyway. It was it was that show
Speaker 1: that that stretching up.
Speaker 23: Although coincidentally, coincidentally, that show was broadcast from a church
Speaker 23: really Wow, for when they were redoing the station we
Speaker 23: were wk.
Speaker 12: C R was in Riverside church.
Speaker 1: Matter. Yeah, so I was I was going to say that.
Speaker 1: I think that the first time that we came there,
Speaker 1: So that was a church I was coming to the
Speaker 1: whole time.
Speaker 22: It was the old w r v R jazz station
Speaker 22: that we that we lived in for like just two years.
Speaker 22: Wow bugged out a little little side fact.
Speaker 12: Talk about taboos sacrilegious on a weekly basis.
Speaker 23: Guaranteed if they knew, if if if the cloth knew
Speaker 23: what was going on in their building, I don't think
Speaker 23: we would have lasted.
Speaker 1: Wait this, this is what I would always want to
Speaker 1: know from you guys. How often would you guys, because
Speaker 1: I never saw muscle at your at your radio station,
Speaker 1: Like when I would go to death Jam, there was
Speaker 1: always muscle. There's always a big security guy and and plexiglass,
Speaker 1: and you know that's but how often would you guys
Speaker 1: have to say the word no to certain people.
Speaker 23: And luckily, because I was, I was DJing for four
Speaker 23: hours though we didn't have commercial breaks nothing, I was,
Speaker 23: I was DJing the show.
Speaker 1: So this guy, damn Freddy Fox, I don't hear the
Speaker 1: phone ring? How does that work? No?
Speaker 22: I mean, you know, the muscle was the brilliance of
Speaker 22: our show. So luckily, like n of the cats in
Speaker 22: the world like so much respect for us and didn't
Speaker 22: want to cross us, you know. But there was definitely
Speaker 22: some incidences of defacing property at the station when when
Speaker 22: I was at the door and were like, yo, I'm sorry,
Speaker 22: I can't let all thirty of you in the studio
Speaker 22: because we don't know you and we've never.
Speaker 10: Heard of you.
Speaker 22: And we had quality control about who will get on
Speaker 22: the mic, so you know, everyone wants to be on
Speaker 22: because they knew that death could be the step to
Speaker 22: get and signed or to getting you know, if you're
Speaker 22: assigned to step to get in love and recond sales
Speaker 22: and all that.
Speaker 1: But one time it's a group on step Son Bill
Speaker 1: Stephanie's label.
Speaker 18: And they had like teers no, it was like no
Speaker 18: that soul but oh.
Speaker 1: They had stop it. No trouble man. One time they
Speaker 1: came to Philly to a j shin showed like fifty deep,
Speaker 1: like five van loads deep, and I was like, how
Speaker 1: does per diem work in that situation? So yeah, like
Speaker 1: who had the biggest crew that would show up? Well?
Speaker 22: Actually, so little little background history for those who have
Speaker 22: seen Me and Stretches documentary title Stretch the by Beat
Speaker 22: the Radio to Change Lives. There's a moment in the
Speaker 22: film where we're discussing the Wou Tang moment, the wolf
Speaker 22: Tang incident where they showed up thirty deep.
Speaker 1: To I never knew she worked there. She worked there,
Speaker 1: I knew as the vibe better there that did not
Speaker 1: like the roots.
Speaker 12: You got to see the movie.
Speaker 1: I've seen the movie. It's not even so so stop
Speaker 1: stop stop it. I got over it. I saw the movie.
Speaker 1: But I'm a little salty that you know.
Speaker 22: See.
Speaker 1: The thing was me and tu Rika held to show
Speaker 1: up such a high honor that we thought that everybody
Speaker 1: that came on that show freestyle their ass off. We
Speaker 1: didn't know they were doing deep cuts the album, so
Speaker 1: our standard was like, yo, we have to be as
Speaker 1: good as so that's why would just train himself like
Speaker 1: a boxer freestyle and so to find out that it
Speaker 1: wasn't that that it wasn't there.
Speaker 7: No, I just you know, that's what you had to
Speaker 7: get over to see.
Speaker 1: For some reason, the communication was down. We you know,
Speaker 1: I'm in like every music documentary. Yeah, and for the stretching.
Speaker 18: And you you were invited. We can we can show proof.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 1: Why didn't you Why didn't you make I gave Zarah
Speaker 1: a week off. Blame it on the assistant.
Speaker 7: That's why she's not in here right now.
Speaker 1: She ran out. Anyway, My point was that, yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't know that Meme Valdez actually worked.
Speaker 18: Out uh uh sistation.
Speaker 22: So anyway, So so going back, there's a little trick
Speaker 22: in filmmaking that. So there's a lot of moments in
Speaker 22: our film where we had no video footage of, including
Speaker 22: the Wu Tang moment. So we actually used footage of
Speaker 22: the Trouble Neck brothers walking through.
Speaker 18: The entrance as the b roll.
Speaker 1: And cut that with with.
Speaker 22: Footage of the artifacts showing up to the station door
Speaker 22: and the b rope because you could just see silhouettes
Speaker 22: of people.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing.
Speaker 18: But Trouble Mike get to get to vote for for
Speaker 18: biggest crew.
Speaker 1: Yes, I can tested that they were large building surrounded.
Speaker 1: I think they're still trying to do you out.
Speaker 22: That brothers and artifacts in the tank scene, I didn't
Speaker 22: yet cheating.
Speaker 18: I knew.
Speaker 12: I knew was artifacts.
Speaker 2: I see you walking in can I interviewer question? Okay,
Speaker 2: who was the artist that came to see y'all? Who
Speaker 2: you You appreciate their presence, you respected them, But the
Speaker 2: interview process was kind of like.
Speaker 1: Ah, it's watch be rock him?
Speaker 12: No, are you going to answer that? Really?
Speaker 1: You want to know?
Speaker 12: I'm just surprised that you would so, mister Positive, you know, well.
Speaker 18: No, I mean the thing is that we didn't really interview.
Speaker 1: I mean, who was not four loquacious?
Speaker 12: Like you know, I'm saying, who is disappointed?
Speaker 18: We didn't do interviews? So we artists came up to
Speaker 18: our show.
Speaker 22: We had kind of like a high standard for people ramen,
Speaker 22: so when MCS arrived, they knew that they were there
Speaker 22: for one reason. If we wound up talking, snapping whatever,
Speaker 22: that was great on top of that, but the main
Speaker 22: thing was like, okay, yo, the mic is open. You know,
Speaker 22: kick your verse and and and stretch, would you know
Speaker 22: be doing the beats and everything.
Speaker 23: So there's nobody that we really were excited about. Let
Speaker 23: us down.
Speaker 12: Really, I mean there were you know, there were people
Speaker 12: that surprised. Can't even remember you have a doctor Dre story,
Speaker 12: Doctor j did he was there. Yeah, he can't keep
Speaker 12: him up.
Speaker 23: That was that was lackluster when he didn't really this
Speaker 23: is probably ninety five right, it was.
Speaker 18: So he can't kill us.
Speaker 23: Steve Rifkin brought him up, right, and you know, Drey
Speaker 23: even then was larger than life, right, and the post
Speaker 23: n W a chronic like that Doctor Dre and he
Speaker 23: didn't really know what he was doing there. Somehow Steve,
Speaker 23: I guess, convinced him to come up and he kind
Speaker 23: of was just looking around like what is this did
Speaker 23: I don't think he really knew. I don't think he
Speaker 23: you know, he just he always you know, just he
Speaker 23: just circumvented the underground. You know, he didn't really he
Speaker 23: really did, and he was he was kind of stuff.
Speaker 18: Yeah, he didn't. He didn't really joke around with us.
Speaker 1: It's like when D'Angelo showed up to our show. No seriously,
Speaker 1: he said he said three words and went out for
Speaker 1: a cigarette break and then lost bet. Yeah, so episode
Speaker 1: one I promised them two thousand dollars if I could
Speaker 1: get D'Angel, very reclusive, extremely late all the time to
Speaker 1: show up to the show. And yeah, yeah, and the
Speaker 1: Angel just accidentally just came in the shat down for
Speaker 1: a bit, technically said three words, it's more R and B.
Speaker 7: He was like, here the headphone and.
Speaker 9: Those are the three words he said, it's more R
Speaker 9: and B. He said smoke and his sister in family
Speaker 9: matters hashtag a band the room.
Speaker 1: And never came back. That was it. Yeah, so grand, Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: no money for you.
Speaker 23: Steve Rifkin also brought up Quincy Jones, who, by the way, completely.
Speaker 12: Got what was going on and was and sat with
Speaker 12: us for an hour.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, did he always like what?
Speaker 14: What?
Speaker 1: What? Was he loquacious? Did he talk a lot?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Yeah, he was great. He had attitude. People were trying
Speaker 12: to snap on him on the phone and he was
Speaker 12: telling people to sit down.
Speaker 1: He handled it to sit down, be a phone. You
Speaker 1: know what this reminds me? I think the night the
Speaker 1: night I mastered Iladulf half Life? Did you not have
Speaker 1: back on the show once? Nor was it either? Did
Speaker 1: Mike de called the show and y'all either spoke about that,
Speaker 1: Like I turned on the radio was like five in
Speaker 1: the morning.
Speaker 12: Mike never called when when I was there, I don't
Speaker 12: recall that.
Speaker 22: It was Maybe m c A because m c A
Speaker 22: used to hang out at that may have happened. M
Speaker 22: used to hang out on our crib. But also the
Speaker 22: b c's sampled our show.
Speaker 1: Yeh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my ship. I'm sorry. So
Speaker 1: that was you that that beatboxing?
Speaker 11: You tell him?
Speaker 1: What was what song was that off the BCS? It
Speaker 1: was before on Hello Nasty uh on Bill, that's what
Speaker 1: you're here for. This is more fun that you.
Speaker 12: Right now album Now I have to yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello the Beastie Boys. Guy? Is that what I'm here?
Speaker 12: I'm happy. I'm happy to think you are because because
Speaker 12: I get that and I'm not house.
Speaker 1: Paying in b people with knowledge. Oh wow, Stereo, you're
Speaker 1: here for Richard Field and you're here for t.
Speaker 22: Yo Fonte and quest Love. I want to flip this around.
Speaker 22: I want to ask y'all a question because this happens
Speaker 22: to me and Stretch. This happens to me and Stretch
Speaker 22: all the time for twenty five years, and it happens
Speaker 22: between me Legs and Tony Touch as well all the time.
Speaker 22: And I don't think I look anything like Stretch, and
Speaker 22: me and Legs don't look nothing alike except that we
Speaker 22: both bought Igua. But Yo, does it happen to you
Speaker 22: where people be like Yo, ninth wonder like Yo, the
Speaker 22: other day I'm in Harlem and this kid recognized Yo.
Speaker 22: I listen to radio show, Yo, be I just I
Speaker 22: just saw the film on showtime. Yo, It's crazy your
Speaker 22: word up Beat gave me a pound of hug with
Speaker 22: my son, Like, YO, good look at Beat.
Speaker 24: He's like, all right, Stretch. Later, I'm like in Hall
Speaker 24: and come on, got white Downtown, you know uptown Stretch,
Speaker 24: Stretch has Caroline, Stretch.
Speaker 1: Has the more exciting name, like you see Stretch of
Speaker 1: Arms songs in that sort of DC Comics front or
Speaker 1: that Marvel front. Maybe that just occasionally, yeah, because people
Speaker 1: occasionally will say your black thought black Stretches is beadle like,
Speaker 1: because people naturally think that I'm the leader of the reach,
Speaker 1: not the guy in the background. So but last week
Speaker 1: with nine at the opening.
Speaker 2: Of the Museum National American History and Culture, that's what
Speaker 2: you're here for.
Speaker 7: The National Museum.
Speaker 2: Excuse me the National Museum of African American and History
Speaker 2: and Culture.
Speaker 1: Say that one more time.
Speaker 7: African American.
Speaker 1: Was that that would be about.
Speaker 12: Yo. You know this is like say, can you can
Speaker 12: you do that quick?
Speaker 1: Quicker and quicker?
Speaker 12: Pretend it's pass over?
Speaker 13: Can we turn the air on it?
Speaker 1: It's some hot Wow. I've never I've never gotten knife before.
Speaker 1: I've never got got big knife.
Speaker 25: Got most like gets most night was chilling with me,
Speaker 25: and some people just naturally thought it was like, what's
Speaker 25: not the most death here he.
Speaker 11: Is, He's very angry and Knife looks like also he
Speaker 11: gets uh. Well, we would joke on him God David
Speaker 11: from Beach Street, he looks like double k.
Speaker 1: That's too obscure reference.
Speaker 14: That was like.
Speaker 1: Making the beach in the balance. What's the big deal
Speaker 1: about me?
Speaker 12: Real?
Speaker 18: Yeah?
Speaker 25: He's Wait, who in this lifetime would be that deep
Speaker 25: for you to know that that reference?
Speaker 1: You have to know your hip hop? Yeah yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that was like inside me. We would joke him
Speaker 1: about that ship. But I gotten knife.
Speaker 9: I've never gotten I've never getten knife, I've got big pool,
Speaker 9: I've got said entertainer before, I've gotten sid entertainer.
Speaker 1: When you do, I got said entertained. And my latest
Speaker 1: and greatest uh misnomer is Wendell Pierce that.
Speaker 7: Don't say that you are You're I mean not sexy,
Speaker 7: but you got.
Speaker 1: That boom, you know, make it work for Craig Robinson
Speaker 1: once told me and showed me proof of the joys
Speaker 1: of him being quest loved whenever he goes like Canada.
Speaker 1: So I can say on record that Craig Robinson has
Speaker 1: enjoy being quest love more than.
Speaker 13: I ever had.
Speaker 7: That is a different thro It's just a little bit
Speaker 7: more Harvey.
Speaker 1: It's like all looks same dot com man. It's just
Speaker 1: he's up in Northern Canada, you know. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: if you're in Northern Canada, if you're in Northern Canada, like,
Speaker 1: how would you not know the office and no quest love?
Speaker 18: Can you tell the er on him?
Speaker 16: Wild hot?
Speaker 7: But you guys because you laughing so hard, it is
Speaker 7: it is.
Speaker 18: Can I share something again?
Speaker 1: Yes? And we keep into the Stuarts. We're new with this.
Speaker 22: This is like, no yo, fante, It's a pleasure to
Speaker 22: meet you, hey because your friends with Zoe wife Sidney
Speaker 22: from d C and bus How yo, I'm never I
Speaker 22: never knew what you look like.
Speaker 1: Now you know what I'm gonna be.
Speaker 18: I've met a bunch of times, right, but yeah, I'm
Speaker 18: a vinyl dude.
Speaker 22: So when the records were coming out A B B,
Speaker 22: there was no artwork, and then you on Donnie's album, which.
Speaker 18: I love, Oh my god, yeah.
Speaker 7: After the color sections.
Speaker 18: I mean, you know, Foreign Exchange and you know all that.
Speaker 18: I've never knew what you look like. No photos of
Speaker 18: you on Foreign Exchange albums either.
Speaker 13: Yeah really yeah, so what did you think?
Speaker 1: And it's weird that him and didn't even know what
Speaker 1: they looked like.
Speaker 12: I don't know what your what your preconceived picture was.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 18: I don't think I ever had a no, I never
Speaker 18: even had a conception of what you look like. I
Speaker 18: just my wife were telling me that you sent her
Speaker 18: funny videos off of YouTube.
Speaker 1: And her with like, all ship, yeah, we would just
Speaker 1: be like we would just have threads. I can remember.
Speaker 11: It was just like it's so cold and to be
Speaker 11: that's one I feel bad about that. I was wanted
Speaker 11: people to help break that video you did. Yeah, you
Speaker 11: did a bad that I released that scourge upon America,
Speaker 11: but fucking it was it was worth it. But nah, yeah,
Speaker 11: I was very surprised, you know, Zoe he was telling me.
Speaker 11: He was like, man, Bob like loves my record, and
Speaker 11: so I just didn't know. And I kind of want
Speaker 11: to ask you guys about that. As much as you are,
Speaker 11: as much as y'all known for, like hip hop and
Speaker 11: you know, like playing all that you guys, you know,
Speaker 11: house soul like funk, I mean, where does where did
Speaker 11: all that influence come from?
Speaker 1: Like how did you guys get into that?
Speaker 18: We're getting serious?
Speaker 11: I mean, we got to keep it serious, but like
Speaker 11: I was just when I heard, I mean, when Zoe
Speaker 11: called me, he was like, yo, man, He's like Bob
Speaker 11: love Sunstorm. I was like, are you serious he was
Speaker 11: he was like yeah, he was like man Bob.
Speaker 1: He was hitting me up. And then when he put
Speaker 1: out Man Made, he was like, yo, Zoe is for
Speaker 1: the listener.
Speaker 11: Zoe is the musical director of Foreign Exchange and our
Speaker 11: touring band keyboard player.
Speaker 1: We're in the Jefferson's Apartmentelo.
Speaker 11: Yeah, some say three more words, but Noah, he was.
Speaker 11: He was just always saying, how big of a supporter?
Speaker 18: Now, my dude, I'm gonna keep it one hundred with you.
Speaker 22: Like during the nine months of my wife's pregnancy, we
Speaker 22: used to listen to Man Made Wow, And even the
Speaker 22: night that she went into labor, we were listening.
Speaker 1: To right now. I'm just first not hearing this.
Speaker 22: No no, No, told Ois we were listening to the
Speaker 22: album as a means to, you know, just get like
Speaker 22: the Beyonce and the environment positive in the house one
Speaker 22: much loved.
Speaker 1: That is amazing.
Speaker 12: Are you going to share what what your son was
Speaker 12: conceived to? Was that the Angelo?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Percy Miracle's greatest is there?
Speaker 14: It is?
Speaker 22: But no, I mean, you know, for me, my dad
Speaker 22: was a Latin jazz musician and my mom was just
Speaker 22: heavy into all the great vocalists of the fifties and sixties.
Speaker 22: So you know, I'm born in sixty six, study piano
Speaker 22: for ten years. Uh, played drums, played drums in college.
Speaker 12: I'm just thinking about the movie where a lot of people.
Speaker 18: Don't know that I was horrible. Show a photo of
Speaker 18: me playing, and you know, it's just music is music.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 18: We got known around the world for hip hop.
Speaker 22: But even during the nineties when we were breaking Nas
Speaker 22: and Biggie and Wu Tang and you know all the
Speaker 22: you know, at the crib, we were just listening to
Speaker 22: you know everything. Probably like in any era of my life,
Speaker 22: I probably have always listened to hip hop the least
Speaker 22: of any genre. But that's not you know, in the nineties,
Speaker 22: that's not what we were known for. But if you
Speaker 22: read my Vibe magazine con that's where all the other
Speaker 22: love for you know, other music came spilled out and
Speaker 22: people like, oh wow, you know, and then when.
Speaker 1: People yes, that's our version of.
Speaker 18: Stretch, I mean, you know, he's a I mean, he
Speaker 18: can speak for himself.
Speaker 23: Well, I mean I grew up in the house with
Speaker 23: a father that was like a classical music nut, and
Speaker 23: I was just not feeling it at all. He played violin,
Speaker 23: he made violins, but he did a lot of he
Speaker 23: he played semi pro basketball. He's a pro tennis player,
Speaker 23: like a unique renaissance man. But wait, but your uncle
Speaker 23: was uncle was a conductor. But I have another, uh
Speaker 23: second cousin, Mike Lipskin, who's like an incredible jazz pianist.
Speaker 12: So music's in the blood.
Speaker 23: But just in New York, I had a older sister
Speaker 23: that was into disco, and but I had parents that
Speaker 23: were just super liberal and open like whatever. Like I mean,
Speaker 23: they dropped me off at the Pier when I was like,
Speaker 23: I couldn't have been more than thirteen years old to
Speaker 23: go see the clash and and uh we Curtis blow
Speaker 23: open for them, and I'm like thirteen, like completely, and
Speaker 23: I look back now and I actually I've seen pictures
Speaker 23: of that show and the type of people that were
Speaker 23: hanging out outside, and I'm wondering, were my parents good parents.
Speaker 12: To drop me off there because it was it was bananas.
Speaker 23: But I mean, I'm lucky that that they were like that.
Speaker 23: But I look back and I got a question like
Speaker 23: where my parents saying yeah, but definitely having an older
Speaker 23: sister that you know, she became like a she became
Speaker 23: a punk skinhead, so like she was bringing reggae reggae.
Speaker 12: Records home and that's all I did. So the trickle down, yeah,
Speaker 12: because she was she was only a year and a
Speaker 12: half older.
Speaker 23: But as a as a female, she matured a lot
Speaker 23: faster and she was wilding out, going to clubs and
Speaker 23: coming home like she was hanging out with the Beastie
Speaker 23: boys Rick Rubin, like and I'm just like soaking it all,
Speaker 23: trying to get out of the house so I can
Speaker 23: just get downtown and be in.
Speaker 1: That I was going to say that post uh the
Speaker 1: post the post radio show period. Haven't seen you guys
Speaker 1: DJing a lot in New York like ninety eight ninety nine.
Speaker 1: That really opened me to the idea of breaking a
Speaker 1: lot of rules that I didn't know, I guess, the
Speaker 1: idea of open format d.
Speaker 12: Jan I mean before before it was called that now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like there was one night where you
Speaker 1: just started playing just some obscure heavy metal song I
Speaker 1: never heard before. So this is before the days of
Speaker 1: sus Am so Hi, Sarah, how you doing? We were
Speaker 1: talking about you, Sarah. This is the reason why I'm
Speaker 1: not in the movie. But anyway, anyway, yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that, yes, I know you guys' knowledge is is crazy.
Speaker 1: For those of y'all just joining, we're broadcasting line from
Speaker 1: the Roots picnic in New York City. We really want
Speaker 1: to thank you guys for everything that you've done hip
Speaker 1: hop culture for real.
Speaker 12: Thank you.
Speaker 11: You guys have really been ambassadors just for the world,
Speaker 11: the lawge, just for for good music all the way around,
Speaker 11: and just you know, to know that y'all a fans
Speaker 11: still look the music we do.
Speaker 9: Uh yeah, I can't thank you guys enough. For what
Speaker 9: you've done, siously or you as a former college radio DJ.
Speaker 9: I just want to say that basically every college radio
Speaker 9: DJ copied you guys. That's basically, you guys were the
Speaker 9: blueprint for every read everything that came after.
Speaker 18: Thank you, Thank you, yo, well Yo.
Speaker 22: Being here makes me remember, makes me reminisce about our
Speaker 22: own show, gud y'all having mad fun. So thanks for
Speaker 22: having us as a guest, and thank you for all
Speaker 22: those out there. The film is called Stretching Babido Radio
Speaker 22: That Change Lives. It's available on Showtime. It's about to
Speaker 22: kick off on Netflix Public now No not really, but whatever.
Speaker 18: We ain't gonna be ont on iTunes. It's on iTunes, Vimeo, YouTube, Amazon.
Speaker 22: You could download it directly from our website Stretching Bobido
Speaker 22: dot com.
Speaker 1: It's on DVD at local barbershops to the bootleg version.
Speaker 11: Right here, I'm sitting in front of a young brother
Speaker 11: who I feel is uh not just EMC is a
Speaker 11: dopa just coming out of Philly. I think he simplifies, uh,
Speaker 11: the things that I look for in an MC. When
Speaker 11: I'm listening to an MC, I'm looking for wordplay. I'm
Speaker 11: looking for a command of the microphone. You know, you
Speaker 11: want charisma, you want some engagement, and you want a
Speaker 11: cat that really sounds like he's living what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: You want a guy that walks it like he talks it.
Speaker 11: And uh, this young brother certainly sympathies all those things
Speaker 11: lazy and gentlemen.
Speaker 7: And he's a and he like.
Speaker 1: Has his hands on a lot of superneur.
Speaker 9: Entrepreneurial like a motherfuckerlemen, Let's give it up one time
Speaker 9: for my brother, Chill Moody.
Speaker 10: What up?
Speaker 1: That means a lot?
Speaker 3: It means a lot in my top five mcs. That
Speaker 3: really means a whole lot. That you said that I
Speaker 3: was trying not to tear up.
Speaker 1: Crying in your bear.
Speaker 7: You gotta you gotta tell you. I know you're tired
Speaker 7: to meet saying this to you, but they are new
Speaker 7: to they don't know.
Speaker 14: You.
Speaker 7: Gotta tell you the story of your Roots Picnic evolution.
Speaker 2: So how you got to this stage because you are
Speaker 2: an unsigned artist still and you come from philadelph but
Speaker 2: now you're doing this New York.
Speaker 3: This is my third Roots Picnic that I've performed at.
Speaker 3: I meant to ask quest when I seen him as
Speaker 3: it like a law that you can't do it more
Speaker 3: than once, because I don't know nobody. I don't know
Speaker 3: nobody that's done it more than once other than me
Speaker 3: and litl Uzi now because he did the one earlier
Speaker 3: this year. But I went from like legit, sneaking into
Speaker 3: the roots picnic, sneaking backstage, to you know, one year
Speaker 3: at least, getting like a general mission ticket and sneaking
Speaker 3: back stage again, meeting I ran into actually one year
Speaker 3: you were in the crowd watch it. Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: Red and Meth was on stage at that time, and
Speaker 3: I got to meet method Man that day. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: just went from from that to performing. We did the
Speaker 3: joint the two day the first time they tried to
Speaker 3: do the two day joint, and I went on right
Speaker 3: before rock Cam and it was like a hurricane, like legit,
Speaker 3: like the craziest torrential downpour you have ever seen. And
Speaker 3: I was performing. That's when we had the tent. Everybody
Speaker 3: flooded into the tent because of the rain, and you know,
Speaker 3: escaped the rain. So I went from at that point,
Speaker 3: which was a crowd of like let's say like two thousand,
Speaker 3: to like five like that quick in the middle of
Speaker 3: my set. That and I'm just looking like, yo, this
Speaker 3: is crazy, Like bill Board wrote about me and hot
Speaker 3: as hell that tips really hot. But Billboard Magazine wrote
Speaker 3: about and I'm like, I'm not I wasn't even selling
Speaker 3: music at that.
Speaker 1: Point that when the tent flooded.
Speaker 7: Oh, I don't know. That's the Daylight year.
Speaker 3: No, that was the the year Kit Cuddy didn't come
Speaker 3: the two day train with rock him and Kid Cuddy.
Speaker 3: I think I think Major Laser went on and then
Speaker 3: Diplo went on in the intent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I do remember. Yeah, they called it right, yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: Diplo body.
Speaker 3: And then from there did the the first year they
Speaker 3: had the ping pong and stages. I think Bronson was
Speaker 3: on that year with me on Channelle Monday, I believe.
Speaker 3: So it was like, what's this twenty sixteen? So I
Speaker 3: did twenty twelve, twenty fourteen, and now twenty seven two years.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Man, So with all that you've gotten into, we're going
Speaker 11: to get into that. So you know with your beer
Speaker 11: that you're drinking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and thank you.
Speaker 7: By the way, nobody brought anything, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9: Mama, my mama told me right, she did you come
Speaker 9: into a picnic, you gotta bring something you gotta bring
Speaker 9: something and not cups.
Speaker 1: Ice, bring ice, bring utensils like you people who raised you.
Speaker 1: I was I was broke, man, I was broke. Will
Speaker 1: excuse you, boss Bill. You keep it, you keep it together,
Speaker 1: so we'll excuse you for breaking cups.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 11: So with all that you have going on, you know,
Speaker 11: with the with your with your beer, Doc Street, nice things.
Speaker 11: I p a and this man has he's the Prince Beer.
Speaker 1: When I say he has, he has his own beer.
Speaker 1: You gotta check that it's delicious too. I have.
Speaker 11: So with with the hands, with everything that you know,
Speaker 11: you have your hands in. Is it even worth signing.
Speaker 1: A deal for you? Do you weigh that out at all?
Speaker 3: I mean, if somebody's listening wants to sign, it's definitely.
Speaker 1: Worth because you on your own way more than some people.
Speaker 1: Very true, very true.
Speaker 3: I don't know nobody else a rapper with a beer
Speaker 3: like like I made this beer. It's not like I'm
Speaker 3: not endorsed. I didn't get signed to some rock and
Speaker 3: you know produced, I mean endorse it or whatever. It's
Speaker 3: like I made this. I went and sat Doc Street
Speaker 3: probably like four months straight, twice a week, maybe just
Speaker 3: rigorous hours of drinking but I'm talking like from like
Speaker 3: twelve to like five, like just drinking.
Speaker 12: The restaurant.
Speaker 3: They put a white board up and they teaching me
Speaker 3: about you know. So I learned a lot about beer too.
Speaker 3: So like I really like got into it and got
Speaker 3: heavy into the Philly Beerson We got like a crazy
Speaker 3: bear scene in Philly right now.
Speaker 1: Made you want to get into that.
Speaker 3: I mean, beer is good, really good. It's lucrative, is
Speaker 3: moving right now in the city. And I had hosted
Speaker 3: a couple events for Philly Beers scene. I did the
Speaker 3: presented award the Philly Beers Scene Awards, and they have
Speaker 3: a band of brewers or Battle with Brewers where every
Speaker 3: brewery somehow and it's city for some reason, all these
Speaker 3: guys play music and so they do a battle of
Speaker 3: the bands, but you have to work at the brewery.
Speaker 10: And they did that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy. They did a World Cafe live
Speaker 3: and it was popping. So I hosted that and like
Speaker 3: every after every band performed, I brought a couch onto
Speaker 3: the stage and I said, and I interviewed you know
Speaker 3: the band, what do you.
Speaker 1: Think about your performance? Whatever? Whatever?
Speaker 3: What beers you'll got coming up whateverever? So doing more
Speaker 3: stuff with the with the beers scene. I kept getting
Speaker 3: into it, and I'm like looking around, like hip hop's
Speaker 3: not here, Like there's no hip hop here. It's not
Speaker 3: a bunch of brown in the room either, but it's
Speaker 3: really like no hip hop. I'm like, all right, I'm
Speaker 3: all about putting hip hop and places that it hasn't been,
Speaker 3: Like I'm the first artist to perform at City Hall,
Speaker 3: first hip hop artists perform at City Hall in Philly.
Speaker 3: It's been a couple since then, but I can honestly
Speaker 3: say I opened the door for that to happen. Like
Speaker 3: my mom is hyped that I can be able to
Speaker 3: say shit like that, stuff like that, but I can
Speaker 3: say it, but I can't say ship and my mom.
Speaker 3: I was apologizing to my mom.
Speaker 18: But yeah, so I forgot your question.
Speaker 1: And what be taste good?
Speaker 26: That was a very simple answers good, And that's and
Speaker 26: that's good to damn all right, keep it simple, hell,
Speaker 26: don't don't make it calculus when it's arithmetic is good.
Speaker 1: Don't make it calculus when it's arithmetic. Is that it original?
Speaker 1: That's original? You know, I have every now and again,
Speaker 1: I get it right every now and then.
Speaker 11: So Uh so talking about in terms of coming up
Speaker 11: in Philly just as a as an outsider, Uh, you know,
Speaker 11: coming up in the South, I didn't really get into
Speaker 11: the geography of rappers until I really, you know, kind
Speaker 11: of started rapping myself. So to me, everybody's from New York,
Speaker 11: Like y'all all had accents like I couldn't imrientiate like
Speaker 11: rock him and three times and cool See and like
Speaker 11: it was all just like New York with chains on
Speaker 11: and I just love this ship that was that was
Speaker 11: just it was just one big kind of blur coming
Speaker 11: out of Philly.
Speaker 1: What was that like for you coming up? And who
Speaker 1: were your influences? Like who were you looking up to
Speaker 1: by the time you came along.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of different different answers like coming up, Uh,
Speaker 3: you know, Cool Sea lived around the corner from me.
Speaker 3: I remember Cool Sea pulled up in the in the
Speaker 3: G Wagon. No, it's like one of G Money joints,
Speaker 3: like the G Money g with the with the whole
Speaker 3: everything off told everything he hopped out and I'm actually.
Speaker 1: Cocaine for your face New Jack City modern Negro classic.
Speaker 3: I'm grabbing my mom some mom some saying like one
Speaker 3: hundreds from the from the Chinese story and I'll come
Speaker 3: out in cool seas right there. I'm like, oh, that's dope,
Speaker 3: Like can you sign these like this pack for me?
Speaker 3: Like this, like seeing how like he hopped out with
Speaker 3: chained on and everything, like just running in the store
Speaker 3: to get probably something drinks, I don't know, but just
Speaker 3: seeing that he was just still in the hood, just
Speaker 3: doing things like chilling, like it was like, oh, I
Speaker 3: could be I could be that. And then as I
Speaker 3: got into that, and I'm like, all right, I could
Speaker 3: be more than that. Like I don't want to just
Speaker 3: be a Philly celebrity neighborhood superstar. I can be more
Speaker 3: than that. So I start seeing, you know, stuff that
Speaker 3: the Ruce was doing. You see the stuff that right
Speaker 3: now I'm admiring stuff that like Kevin Hart's doing taking
Speaker 3: out of Philly. You see stuff like like that fifty
Speaker 3: always did he these people all did more than just
Speaker 3: the music. They I always say, hip hop got me here.
Speaker 3: So the music got them there, but then they expanded
Speaker 3: into something else, like Queen Latifa and Will Smith again,
Speaker 3: like just just watching them, I'm like, I want I
Speaker 3: want to be more. I want to do more than
Speaker 3: just rap. But you know, I'm good at this, So
Speaker 3: I'm gonna use this to get me, you know, every yeah,
Speaker 3: and get everything else.
Speaker 1: I gotta get you remember like your first rhymes that
Speaker 1: you remember?
Speaker 3: Yes, my first first raps was in like third grade.
Speaker 3: We won this third grade talent show and then it
Speaker 3: turned into like a weekly talent show we used to
Speaker 3: have in Doctor Mason class. We had a residence and
Speaker 3: so we want every week, me and my guy a
Speaker 3: little s martial shout out a little marshall.
Speaker 1: My rap.
Speaker 3: But it was like I had like three bars. It
Speaker 3: was like, yo, back in the days, I used to
Speaker 3: hate my teachers and everybody said I used to wear
Speaker 3: crummy sneakers.
Speaker 13: That was it.
Speaker 3: That was it, and that was third grade, and then
Speaker 3: it was something then and that was it.
Speaker 18: Nigga.
Speaker 1: You took a couplet and stretched it into a residence.
Speaker 1: That's amazing.
Speaker 3: And I'm saying back in the days, I'm in the
Speaker 3: third grade, like a lot happened before grade.
Speaker 1: It was popping. Oh man.
Speaker 9: So from those from Bristol's early you know, back in
Speaker 9: the days, my sneakers all that, from that couplet.
Speaker 11: How did you go into building songs? I know, for
Speaker 11: a lot of MC's A lot of times, you know.
Speaker 11: You know when I was coming up, it was we
Speaker 11: just wanted to rap, you know, were just like bars,
Speaker 11: right and bars and bars and raps, but rap because
Speaker 11: I'm rapping.
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna wrap.
Speaker 3: Like after a while, you're rapping about rapping, so like
Speaker 3: it's like, all right, let's make some some music. So
Speaker 3: what happened was when I started college, City Bank or something. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I did finish.
Speaker 1: When did you when you come out of colleg where'd
Speaker 1: you graduate from?
Speaker 3: Millersville University? I graduated in two thousand and Who went
Speaker 3: to Miller's Bill? Yeah exactly, Sean G. Who else went
Speaker 3: up to the league? What was your public public relations?
Speaker 1: Speech?
Speaker 3: Communications?
Speaker 7: Of course?
Speaker 3: So originally it was psychology. I went with I had
Speaker 3: a full academic scholarship, drank that away.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 3: It had changed my major like junior year to it
Speaker 3: was it was psych and then I switched to pr
Speaker 3: because I'm like, yo, you only need like one hundred
Speaker 3: and seventeen credits to finishes. Let me just get out
Speaker 3: of here. But uh, when I started college, you know
Speaker 3: freshman orientation, these credit card people is out there, Yo,
Speaker 3: you need you need to.
Speaker 1: Discover got me.
Speaker 3: So City Bank got me on two joints.
Speaker 1: One of their free T shirt, didn't he Yo, that's
Speaker 1: what it was said.
Speaker 13: College.
Speaker 3: I'm not lying, no, I know, I know college a
Speaker 3: free T shirt you can do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can get anything out of collegehoot if
Speaker 1: you offer them a free T shirt. I got shirts.
Speaker 13: Bet.
Speaker 3: I went in studio equipment with the with the credit
Speaker 3: card went you know, but the mic boo like Q base,
Speaker 3: cool edit and a bunch of stuff, and I I
Speaker 3: don't know any of this stuff. I'm not like musically inclined,
Speaker 3: like you know, I'm not an engine. I don't know.
Speaker 3: But I just start recording stuff and I'm like, all right,
Speaker 3: let's make songs, making records or whatever. And just seeing
Speaker 3: my family is huge, so all of them, Like I
Speaker 3: started wrap to fitting with my bigger cousins, my older cousins,
Speaker 3: like they introduced me to Woo Tang and nas and
Speaker 3: all of that like early on, so I wanted to
Speaker 3: wrap the fit in with them. But growing up at
Speaker 3: Philly at that time when I started rapping, it was
Speaker 3: the figures was out state property.
Speaker 10: So I was happening.
Speaker 3: I bought some nonsense like I'm like I said, I
Speaker 3: had a full academic scholarship, but I'm I shot everything
Speaker 3: and killed everybody. I did all kind of stuff and.
Speaker 18: Right right.
Speaker 3: So my cousins was like, yo, it's lyrical, it's there,
Speaker 3: but that's not you tell your story. And that came with,
Speaker 3: you know, rapping as my like I had rap names.
Speaker 3: And then it was like, yo, your name's chill, like
Speaker 3: why not just be chill? Like I was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: soill is I've been chilled since I was six months.
Speaker 3: I've never heard nobody call me nothing. I mean I've
Speaker 3: heard people say that, but like my father's never called
Speaker 3: me nothing different. Teachers always called me chill or they
Speaker 3: called me moody. Mood is my real last names. So
Speaker 3: I've always been chill Moody. But I had like I
Speaker 3: was tagged. I was young chilled a block captain spelled.
Speaker 27: Young Yo, I'm spelled if it was y U n
Speaker 27: G of course C H I T H A B
Speaker 27: L O kk C A P C A P t
Speaker 27: apostrophe and do not forget my posture.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 1: That is so like that were you were like Emerson
Speaker 1: Pop before you were the boers.
Speaker 3: Called Street cleaning, like I was young child the block
Speaker 3: and I had street cleaning, and then I had the
Speaker 3: neighborhood watch, and then I had the neighborhood watch too,
Speaker 3: and then I was like, yo, I'm.
Speaker 9: It's so interesting that you had that name because that's
Speaker 9: such like a nineties because because the nineties rap template
Speaker 9: name was like name the.
Speaker 1: Adjut, the damage head, pudgy, the fat that's right right.
Speaker 9: Right, herald the bilateral metaphor, I had to have like
Speaker 9: this is me and I am the adjective, this is
Speaker 9: how I do it.
Speaker 1: And then this is my time.
Speaker 9: JT, the bigger JT, the bigger, just the figure, the
Speaker 9: bigger I'm the bigger fie the larger one, greater statue
Speaker 9: than yours.
Speaker 3: Wow, but that's real though, when you made that shift
Speaker 3: from you know, I made that shift and also made
Speaker 3: the shift in the lyrics like all right, let me
Speaker 3: tell my story. This is shill movie, this is who
Speaker 3: I am. I'm a Philly guy. Let's let's you know.
Speaker 1: How was that? What was what was that story? What
Speaker 1: did you what did you want to come up?
Speaker 3: What did you want to above all those It's like, yo,
Speaker 3: I wraped like better than your like I just want
Speaker 3: to like it, like express that and like really be
Speaker 3: like on my you know, this is me and you
Speaker 3: know it's lyrical, like I ain't got a lie and
Speaker 3: be lyrical like it's lyrical at first, but it's like no,
Speaker 3: like I can, I can just tell my story. So
Speaker 3: it's like big family oriented guy. Like I said, my
Speaker 3: family is huge. I can walk to like probably like
Speaker 3: twelve family members houses from from outside. Yeah we're all
Speaker 3: from yeah, shout.
Speaker 1: At school my guy.
Speaker 11: Yeah schoolly D. We had an interesting, uh interesting night
Speaker 11: with him one time playing the group show.
Speaker 1: It was I think it was interesting. Bring the fell
Speaker 1: did he bring the He didn't bring the feather board?
Speaker 1: He he it was boy boy. This was like man,
Speaker 1: he like you know, this was got five.
Speaker 11: Something I can't remember and he was doing a mirror
Speaker 11: was playing I'll never forget this, and just to see
Speaker 11: the sheer look of terror on a mirror's face when
Speaker 11: schooly wouldn't leave the stage.
Speaker 1: Man, that is hilarious.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's one person in music that doesn't
Speaker 3: have a schooly D story like that. Guy is epic,
Speaker 3: like and then his stories are even more epic than
Speaker 3: anything you could say like he like, so it was me, Prince,
Speaker 3: what's the story?
Speaker 10: Told us.
Speaker 13: Donald was there?
Speaker 3: But anyway, let me he's telling me about like the
Speaker 3: sneakers he had on that's the point of the story.
Speaker 3: Like but yeah, so Prince is over there, he doing
Speaker 3: his ship whatever, but the sneakers like like, but you're
Speaker 3: just gonna buy press the fact that Prince with Donald's
Speaker 3: over there, like yeah, they always stay with whatever, like school,
Speaker 3: he's a homie. He been to the house like he
Speaker 3: like come to the cookouts and stuff, my mom graving stuff.
Speaker 7: But another MC. I'm always fascinated by mcs who take
Speaker 7: and then do other great things with them cartoon adult
Speaker 7: swim carts.
Speaker 3: He painting now, like or he got back into the art.
Speaker 3: He just did these converts like the what's the first
Speaker 3: album s? Not Saturda Night?
Speaker 1: You know the album he.
Speaker 3: Drew is the Yellow And yeah he did some converse
Speaker 3: that like it's just the artwork, but he's drawn, like
Speaker 3: doing them himself and like just selling them like just
Speaker 3: really like going old school.
Speaker 14: Ye.
Speaker 11: From listening to you man, you sound, one of the
Speaker 11: things that I find very refreshing is that you seem
Speaker 11: to God damn that you got a whole jug.
Speaker 1: I'm about to ask for some more on the Doc
Speaker 1: Street Brewery.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 1: This this nigga pulled out the prohibition.
Speaker 3: Grounds.
Speaker 1: This is the moon shine that it comes to that
Speaker 1: kind of in the house. It's there a pineapple situation. Yes, Yes,
Speaker 1: is that like a thing?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is that what I was telling I was trying to.
Speaker 19: That when you went to like beer beer class and
Speaker 19: you sat there for six years, learned all about beer
Speaker 19: and brood it with your own goddamn head.
Speaker 1: You learned all about the ship, and.
Speaker 19: Then you took the fucking cut up the pineapples.
Speaker 3: We really cut the pineapples up, like we really like.
Speaker 3: He actually cut a couple of pineapples up. My attorney
Speaker 3: and put and put a couple of Jason there.
Speaker 1: You got your lawyer cutting up plane. You performed already.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you earlier too, crazy, complying crazy.
Speaker 1: My family.
Speaker 3: I got a lot of family up here in New
Speaker 3: York too, So a couple of them came through and
Speaker 3: like my mom my sisters, my sister's birthday. So they're
Speaker 3: there and in the middle of it, or towards the
Speaker 3: end of the set, I see the guy say you
Speaker 3: got five minutes left, and I'm like, all right, I
Speaker 3: got one song left and then on like three, so
Speaker 3: I'm like, I can probably just get acapella off real quick,
Speaker 3: and I just start rhyming. And then as I'm rhyming,
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, yeah, that's the first time rapping right now.
Speaker 3: So like I just start. I just went off and
Speaker 3: in the verse, I shout out my mom, I shot
Speaker 3: out my sister and talk about some things that we
Speaker 3: you know, got going with the family and you know, whatever, whatever,
Speaker 3: and no bullshit, it's tears.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, wow, what works.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a verse, just just a verse. But
Speaker 3: I you know, I said this LP that I'm working on,
Speaker 3: I might call it Mom, you ain't gotta work no more.
Speaker 3: Tell my big sister she ain't got to hurt no more.
Speaker 3: That's all I'm working towards. And then everybody just hugged
Speaker 3: each other. I was like, oh, suld have done it.
Speaker 1: Na, that's that's a great moment.
Speaker 13: It just kept good.
Speaker 1: I just I could never that was always hard for me.
Speaker 11: I mind people that can do that, Like I always
Speaker 11: would tell my family never to come to my gigs.
Speaker 11: Really yeah, I was like, y'all stay with that because
Speaker 11: it just kind.
Speaker 9: Of it just adds unnecessary not pressure, it's pressure, and
Speaker 9: it's just.
Speaker 1: Like it's almost like just for me.
Speaker 11: I mean, it almost feels like you're undressing in front
Speaker 11: of your family, Like that is the most vulnerable really.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't really like having my family. My
Speaker 1: kids told me played for the first time last night.
Speaker 1: Take some four. They came to the show. Did they
Speaker 1: enjoy it? They just kept on waving to me.
Speaker 19: Yeah. I felt like, yeah, show yo, yo, it's sold
Speaker 19: out in six seconds.
Speaker 1: What we played the Grammercy Theater last night. Oh it
Speaker 1: was fun.
Speaker 7: Be talented and Bill I.
Speaker 1: Got ship to do. I got he's got that oscar
Speaker 1: to work on. He got that, he got the g T.
Speaker 1: We got to give him to win an oscar whenever
Speaker 1: you want to do that.
Speaker 3: My first couple of shoes, Like having a family there
Speaker 3: was the most vital part because they like thirty deep,
Speaker 3: so all his family comes to that. That helped fill
Speaker 3: the crowd up, like they thirty deep. Everybody bring one
Speaker 3: friend and it's a small little I got sixty people
Speaker 3: in there right now. I was like, so that's how
Speaker 3: that's really how the buzz started in the city because
Speaker 3: you know when the family leaves, everybody goes back to
Speaker 3: a different spot and they telling more people and more
Speaker 3: people and all it all just worked up brilliant.
Speaker 1: That's dope, man.
Speaker 3: So I'm happy when I when I look out in
Speaker 3: the front my mom right in the front row every time.
Speaker 11: Like listen, man chill man, brother, thank you so much.
Speaker 11: Thank you for taking his time, for coming out and
Speaker 11: and for doing.
Speaker 1: This on a show that bring bringing up. Thank you
Speaker 1: for showing up. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 11: It's Fante Fantigolo holding it down for the boss Man
Speaker 11: and our coat leader quest Love, who is busy working.
Speaker 11: Today we were broadcasting Live from the Roots Picnic in
Speaker 11: New York in New York, New York City, the city
Speaker 11: and the state. We got uh, we got lovely unpaid
Speaker 11: Bill Sherman, my Man Sugar, Steve my Man, Scott yea Yo.
Speaker 11: This young lady is one of the new voices and
Speaker 11: one of the more prominent voices of the grime hip
Speaker 11: hop movement coming out of the UK, and she has
Speaker 11: been very patient with us after coming out of her
Speaker 11: performance today Uh from the Roof's Picnic and waiting for us,
Speaker 11: and she showed up with some liquor and.
Speaker 1: To get to people's heart, ladies and gentlemen, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna and I'm.
Speaker 11: Gonna say and I'm gonna say her name, and then
Speaker 11: after I'm gonna take your sip, and that ships gonna
Speaker 11: sound got like that, ladies and gentlemen, give it up
Speaker 11: for Lady Lasia.
Speaker 18: I told you that.
Speaker 7: First picnic performance.
Speaker 13: Yes, yes, how was it?
Speaker 28: It was amazing?
Speaker 29: You know, I didn't think I was gonna get that reaction,
Speaker 29: but a lot of them out that knew he was already.
Speaker 28: It was incredible.
Speaker 11: One of the things I think is so fascinating about
Speaker 11: mcs from the UK is that we speak the same language.
Speaker 11: I mean, we're both speaking English, but that right almost
Speaker 11: the dialect.
Speaker 1: It's just something.
Speaker 28: It's the accent really, that's that's.
Speaker 11: Well, the accent to me, I can, I can, you know,
Speaker 11: listen to the accent and I can. The accent doesn't
Speaker 11: get in the way of me understanding what you got
Speaker 11: to say. A lot of times it's just the I
Speaker 11: guess most of the dialect is how you just will
Speaker 11: have certain terms from words that we just you know,
Speaker 11: we just don't use or even like the way. Another
Speaker 11: one of my favorite singers from you came my man
Speaker 11: Doring It, who is incredible. He does the same thing
Speaker 11: I noticed you do. Will you guys use f's for
Speaker 11: th h. So it's the I don't even know if
Speaker 11: he knows it. But like you don't say think you say,
Speaker 11: think yeah, I say, think you said.
Speaker 1: You said or was it? She didn't say the F? No,
Speaker 1: she said think she said think she did.
Speaker 3: Something with the F.
Speaker 1: She said that.
Speaker 29: You know what it is is because I'm actually from
Speaker 29: Birmingham and maybe he's from London. Because London accent and
Speaker 29: sound and dialect is completely different to anyone from up
Speaker 29: north in the UK. We have like a lot of
Speaker 29: melody and our you know what I mean, and they're
Speaker 29: very monotone.
Speaker 1: Do you think that comes from like there's that like
Speaker 1: the kind of Caribbean influence.
Speaker 21: No, I don't.
Speaker 28: I don't think it's that.
Speaker 29: I think I think it's just basically, you know, you
Speaker 29: have Birmingham, not in Manchester. They're north and they have
Speaker 29: a different sound, a different vibe and energy to Londoners.
Speaker 29: Londoners they just laugh at us when we speak, you know,
Speaker 29: because it sounds like we're singing that They say, we're
Speaker 29: singing basically when we're talking, and yeah, some things they
Speaker 29: say that we don't say in something.
Speaker 28: So they say.
Speaker 29: Glass pass fast, we say glass past fast. Is there
Speaker 29: in fast and past? You know it's it's glass. It's
Speaker 29: not glass, it's glass. So that's what we do, that's
Speaker 29: what we say. We pronounce things properly. What Londoners you know,
Speaker 29: they always win because the biggest.
Speaker 11: City, you know, that's where ours comes from. The RS
Speaker 11: that's yeah, that's extra, so many extra fucking continents.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 11: So, so in doing your performance today, do you notice
Speaker 11: the difference between performing for crowds in London versus here
Speaker 11: or are there any adjustments you have to make?
Speaker 1: Uh in performing in the U in the US?
Speaker 29: Yeah, I feel like in the UK they get it
Speaker 29: straight away because the music I make is grime, and
Speaker 29: that's straight from the UK. That's gritted, that's that's us,
Speaker 29: that's what we've created. And when you try to take
Speaker 29: another jumble of music that people might not have heard
Speaker 29: of to another another state, another area, they might not
Speaker 29: take to it as well as the original place it
Speaker 29: was created in. So in America, I mean, I'm not
Speaker 29: gonna lie. I think it's incredible when they actually when
Speaker 29: they're nodding their head and they're listening and they're vibes
Speaker 29: into the music because it's it's UK music, you know,
Speaker 29: and I respect that. But at the same time, what
Speaker 29: I try to do whenever I come and do is
Speaker 29: showing America, is I try to merge American beat or
Speaker 29: I try to connect with the crowd by you know,
Speaker 29: today I play Biggie you know that's it's New York
Speaker 29: and I got New York on.
Speaker 28: But I wear these all the time.
Speaker 13: This isn't just.
Speaker 29: I just didn't fake it today, But yeah, man, I
Speaker 29: tried to connect with the crowd as much as possible
Speaker 29: and and yeah, and try to show them that I'm
Speaker 29: British as well as being able to understand and relate
Speaker 29: to them as well. So it goes, it goes down
Speaker 29: of it, it depends.
Speaker 2: Actually, the Americans are kind of assholes when it comes
Speaker 2: to like listening, like music, appreciating music. I felt like
Speaker 2: that when it comes to America comparing them to the UK. Yes,
Speaker 2: I feel like you guys are way more open minded
Speaker 2: and accepting.
Speaker 7: That's why a lot of groups wilsta Europe But that's
Speaker 7: why a lot of brooks here like he I think
Speaker 7: of the Roots, you know what I mean? Like the
Speaker 7: Roots were touring three hundred days a year in Europe.
Speaker 7: They can do that here.
Speaker 1: Let me used to be I think that used to
Speaker 1: be the case.
Speaker 11: I think more so now I think the Internet is
Speaker 11: kind of the great equalizer, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 11: I think back in the day, like maybe tweeny years
Speaker 11: ago or so or whatever, like the UK and like
Speaker 11: Europe was kind of seen as the Promised Land.
Speaker 1: So it's like, if you were fucking.
Speaker 11: Bricking over here, you could go to Europe and you
Speaker 11: could be the.
Speaker 1: Guy right now.
Speaker 9: If you're bricking here, you're fucking bricking everywhere, you know
Speaker 9: what I'm saying, Like, no one.
Speaker 11: Like the jig is up because you're just a Google
Speaker 11: search away. And if you're whacking New York, you're whacking London, Birmingham, Manchester, England, England, everywhere.
Speaker 1: I don't nobody want to hear that shit.
Speaker 11: So it's not I don't think that's the case anymore.
Speaker 11: In terms of your music, how did you get started
Speaker 11: and what were some of your earliest recordings?
Speaker 1: What were they like?
Speaker 29: Okay, so I wrote my first lea week when I
Speaker 29: was six years old, and that.
Speaker 1: Was just like a lot of young writers.
Speaker 29: Yes, six eight A voicemail for my mom on that phone,
Speaker 29: so whenever anyone would phone, it would go straight to
Speaker 29: and that was over a reggae track, sister Nancy Bamba. Yeah,
Speaker 29: So everywhere I go, I have to perform that. I
Speaker 29: don't care if people don't even know about it or reggae.
Speaker 29: That's something I have to do for myself. And then
Speaker 29: at the age of twelve, I discovered Eminem and I
Speaker 29: was just totally in love with him, and I knew
Speaker 29: from that point I wanted to be a rapper. There
Speaker 29: was nothing else for me. Like you know when you
Speaker 29: just feel like you know, you're certain of something. I
Speaker 29: knew that I didn't want to do anything but rap.
Speaker 29: So from the age of twelve to fourteen, I learned
Speaker 29: how to mix and master my own stuff, produce DJ rap,
Speaker 29: sing at dance. I was trying to do everything, you
Speaker 29: know what I mean, and at a young age, and
Speaker 29: I had the experience, you know, to be who I
Speaker 29: am now, you know, and to perfect on my craft.
Speaker 29: So I've been working for so long. I had my
Speaker 29: first show when I was fifteen, and because I'm Caribbean,
Speaker 29: and I watch a lot of like dance hall shows
Speaker 29: and stuff. The way they they've got the crowd, put
Speaker 29: the flag in the air, all that stuff. I learned
Speaker 29: that from early, so I'm not I'm not scared to
Speaker 29: to put myself out there when I'm on the stage.
Speaker 29: Even if the crowd doesn't react to me, I don't
Speaker 29: care because I'm in my zone and I've learned from
Speaker 29: the best.
Speaker 1: You know, So who are your teachers?
Speaker 29: Eminem Lil Wayne, He's just He's one of my biggest teachers.
Speaker 29: A little bit of Missy Elliott as far as just
Speaker 29: having fun and not came what people think and the
Speaker 29: crazy visuals, Buster Rhymes saying with the visuals, Ludacris with
Speaker 29: the visuals and the flow. But there's a few UK
Speaker 29: artists I used to listen to as well. So there's Cano.
Speaker 29: I don't know if you've heard a Cano.
Speaker 1: Was he so solid?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 28: No, he wasn't so solid.
Speaker 29: Crue He he was in a crew called the Movement,
Speaker 29: but then they were all doing their saying that their
Speaker 29: their own thing. So there was scorch Air, Cano, Ghetto
Speaker 29: and Deviling in this crew and Ghetto is like he
Speaker 29: so amazing I think he would do great here.
Speaker 28: I think the UK don't get him. He's so he's
Speaker 28: like eminem like, he's.
Speaker 29: So articulate, he's crazy with the flow, and because of that,
Speaker 29: I don't think the UK get him, and I think
Speaker 29: he'd be amazing here, like people would respect him on here.
Speaker 29: But Gets was a big part of my career, like
Speaker 29: as far as like flow and technique and content and
Speaker 29: syllables and trying to hit every pocket.
Speaker 9: He was that guy in terms of listening being in
Speaker 9: the UK and hearing American music, were there some parts
Speaker 9: of our music that just did not translate over there,
Speaker 9: or were there some parts that culturally it was kind
Speaker 9: of like, Okay, I like the music, but what exactly
Speaker 9: are they talking about?
Speaker 14: Not at all.
Speaker 29: I think for a very long time England and UK
Speaker 29: have worshiped American music. We've even me growing up, I thought,
Speaker 29: you know, to be a rapper, you had to be American.
Speaker 29: So when I was younger, I was speaking in an
Speaker 29: American accent because I just thought that was it that
Speaker 29: you know, I'm not going to make it with a
Speaker 29: British accent, especially from Birmingham, that's a completely different accent.
Speaker 11: What does you rap like in an American accent, Like
Speaker 11: what does that sound like?
Speaker 14: Or not?
Speaker 11: Just like talk in an American accent? What does that
Speaker 11: sound like?
Speaker 29: Oh my gosh, got bars Son, You know, I really
Speaker 29: do this. I don't know what this accent is from.
Speaker 29: I don't know what city, what area, New York.
Speaker 28: Okay, I got the New Era on the New York
Speaker 28: you know, we got this.
Speaker 13: I'm in sad with pandormic.
Speaker 29: Seriously, like literally, I do this so with this time,
Speaker 29: like when I'm on Snatchat, I always do the American access.
Speaker 28: So I love it.
Speaker 29: I actually love America, Like I just think you guys.
Speaker 29: At the time, at the time when I started rapping
Speaker 29: and stuff, I thought that was the only way to
Speaker 29: make it. But I think after like a decade, things
Speaker 29: of change now and and a lot of the American
Speaker 29: artists are looking at the UK, and it's it's refreshing
Speaker 29: to see that there they're finally reaching out to us.
Speaker 29: Like Chris Brown has worked with a few UK artists.
Speaker 29: Draker's Co signed a.
Speaker 1: Few UK arts usually like with Skeptic.
Speaker 29: Yeah, and hence Skeptic has been doing it for so long,
Speaker 29: you know, and it's just good to see that finally
Speaker 29: something that the UK has created, which is grime. It's
Speaker 29: finally getting seen on really big platforms.
Speaker 7: Can you break that down?
Speaker 11: Grime is like over there, grime.
Speaker 29: Is one forty b pm, so it's quite fast. It's like,
Speaker 29: it's quite fast. It's a slower than drum and bass.
Speaker 29: I don't know if you've heard. It's slower than drum
Speaker 29: and bass. But it's very it's very it's very raw,
Speaker 29: it's street, it's it's just us, you know. It's you
Speaker 29: can tell a grime beat from a hip hop beat.
Speaker 29: And whenever an American artist goes on a grind beat,
Speaker 29: they always hit it in a different way to a
Speaker 29: grime EMC.
Speaker 28: You know, we're hitting with.
Speaker 29: The speed flows like, and then American artists would be like,
Speaker 29: you know what I mean, So we have we have that,
Speaker 29: we have our own sound, you know what I mean,
Speaker 29: and we hit it. It's very aggressive, it's very hard hitting,
Speaker 29: it's powerful, it's energic, SOMNISSI man, it's it's.
Speaker 7: It's we haven't tried to feel it.
Speaker 2: From you yet.
Speaker 7: Has come over and.
Speaker 1: A couple of years don't speak to.
Speaker 7: So after they leave the count in Africa, they'll be back.
Speaker 11: In terms of like, because I also saw that you're
Speaker 11: a singer as well, like you sing as well.
Speaker 28: Well, I tried to sing, I'm not singer, but let's
Speaker 28: swiftly move on singer, guys, I actually not that. I
Speaker 28: just know how I used to.
Speaker 29: I grew up in a church, like I used to
Speaker 29: be in choirs and stuff like that. So I know
Speaker 29: about melodies and about harmonies and stuff like that.
Speaker 23: But I.
Speaker 29: Think she, I think she can actually sing with me.
Speaker 29: I need I need a lot of work. I need
Speaker 29: a lot of melody, and.
Speaker 28: I need a lot of auto tune.
Speaker 29: I need a lot of that because I know, I
Speaker 29: know I can't hit those notes that Maria carry hitch,
Speaker 29: you know what I mean.
Speaker 28: So I saw her, but I performed at New Orleans
Speaker 28: Essence Festival.
Speaker 1: Because that's a very black experience. Okay, that was very
Speaker 1: African American.
Speaker 2: That is specifically it's put on by Essence magazine, Black
Speaker 2: Woman's magazine.
Speaker 29: Just you know what I feel like, Because I'm British,
Speaker 29: they straight away that just they're lucked in because they
Speaker 29: hear a different accent. It's refreshing for them, it's unique,
Speaker 29: it's new. So I didn't really have to do so
Speaker 29: much to win the crowd over there was just like, wow,
Speaker 29: you know is it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 28: But I saw Mariah Carey at this this festival.
Speaker 29: And she performed every song live except for Heartbreaker, and
Speaker 29: she managed to hit that. I can't even do it,
Speaker 29: but you know what that that she does, she managed
Speaker 29: to hit that. And I always just like, Okay, you've
Speaker 29: still got in you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So that's dope, yo.
Speaker 11: That the voice is something that is very It's an
Speaker 11: instrument that's very delicate. I mean, you have to really
Speaker 11: treat it like it's an instrument and it's something that
Speaker 11: you know. One of the greatest tips I received was
Speaker 11: from a guy who was telling me. I was asking
Speaker 11: about care and stuff, and he was saying, you know,
Speaker 11: you have to treat if you look at what all
Speaker 11: the other players do at the end of the night,
Speaker 11: they put the instrument in the case. So you gotta
Speaker 11: do the same thing with your voice, you know, at
Speaker 11: the end of the night, put it in the case and.
Speaker 10: A little bit.
Speaker 1: Get those real that that that real grit.
Speaker 11: Of course you've been saying in them holes where you
Speaker 11: want to remember, it'll get you there. So we're here now,
Speaker 11: So where are you at now in your creative process
Speaker 11: in terms of what you're working on, you know, in
Speaker 11: terms of records, what is your what is your creative process?
Speaker 14: Like?
Speaker 29: Okay, so at the moment, I'm working on my album,
Speaker 29: Queen the Listine, which will be out next year, and
Speaker 29: my process is quite weird because if I'm not in
Speaker 29: a good place, I can't make good music. I know
Speaker 29: that sounds as easy as as I've said it, but
Speaker 29: it isn't that. Mentally, I have to be in the
Speaker 29: right place to make fun music, which is what the
Speaker 29: Queen Speech project was all about. So if I'm in
Speaker 29: a happy place and I'm in a good place, I
Speaker 29: can make happy, funny, good music. If I feel sad
Speaker 29: one day, I'm going to make Drake music.
Speaker 2: You know that, you know.
Speaker 15: Music?
Speaker 13: You know?
Speaker 1: Is it is it that you prefer to do like
Speaker 1: happy stuff or in the dark snus do?
Speaker 29: I do prefer to do happy stuff because I just
Speaker 29: love to see people laugh. Man, That's That's what I'm about.
Speaker 29: Like my personality off Mike as Militia because that's what
Speaker 29: Miami is. I just love to see people laugh, make
Speaker 29: people laugh, and just you know, have a good time
Speaker 29: with my people. So that's that's the only reason why
Speaker 29: I thought of doing a project that is funny and
Speaker 29: relatable and can connect to any common man around the world,
Speaker 29: you know what I mean, Like Queen's speech. The things
Speaker 29: that I say in that are things that people can
Speaker 29: be like. Oh yeah, I know someone who does that.
Speaker 29: I know someone with Christy Bacon lips. I know someone
Speaker 29: who don't change their planeties.
Speaker 7: I know someone someone you know.
Speaker 28: You know some people do that.
Speaker 29: You know, some people just wake up, they've got their
Speaker 29: parties an't already, they've slept in their planeties, and they
Speaker 29: just they boss out.
Speaker 28: They go, they go work, they go, they go to
Speaker 28: their friend's house.
Speaker 7: The base.
Speaker 11: Say, there are some men, now I don't okay, yeah,
Speaker 11: some men did like a little twang on that thing,
Speaker 11: you know.
Speaker 13: You know, one.
Speaker 1: Can't blame.
Speaker 28: Wait, I'm going to ask you guys a question. Ever
Speaker 28: left the house without watching underneath?
Speaker 1: You don't want to question I do. That's why we
Speaker 1: want to not by choice, not by choice. It depends, Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: it depends. Okay, here's the thing.
Speaker 11: Right, If I'm just in the house, just in my
Speaker 11: natural just whatever, then yeah, I mean, it may not
Speaker 11: be necessary for me to shower if I'm just running
Speaker 11: the store because I haven't been like sweating. But like
Speaker 11: if I didn't left the gym, I'm not going to
Speaker 11: go to the gym, then hot my ass in the
Speaker 11: bed and then get I'm pretty sure they are like
Speaker 11: laws and doing that.
Speaker 29: There are so no but noah, but okay, So have
Speaker 29: you ever came out your house without washing? But you've
Speaker 29: gone to a club as well? You accidentally just ended up.
Speaker 1: That's that's happened.
Speaker 30: That's happened. Ain't no shame, because listen.
Speaker 9: If we were there's been times back in the days,
Speaker 9: you know, back before I was covered by the blood
Speaker 9: of Jesus.
Speaker 1: Back when I was out there in the world. There
Speaker 1: was a time in my life. Well I will go
Speaker 1: to the club, go to the club. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 11: You sleep, you know, you come home, you crash like
Speaker 11: two three in the morning, wake up, you know what
Speaker 11: I'm saying, and then you realize, oh shit, I'm hungry.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 11: So then you make your way to like the hop
Speaker 11: or whatever, and you still.
Speaker 1: Are in your club.
Speaker 29: So what happens when you're you're in the club and
Speaker 29: you meet a beautiful woman and then you connect and
Speaker 29: then she's like, Okay, I'll come home with you and
Speaker 29: then I So what happens Then the whole.
Speaker 1: Time you're praying that until the next time you run
Speaker 1: into it. Well, well, I mean, listen, man, let me,
Speaker 1: let me, let me, let me say something.
Speaker 12: You can record.
Speaker 1: He's covered in the blood of Jesus. Let me play something.
Speaker 11: Let me say Okay, listen. I personally like a woman's
Speaker 11: natural firm. So for me, I'm the type of guy's like.
Speaker 9: Listen, if you go to the gym and you and
Speaker 9: your spind class or whatever when you come back, so
Speaker 9: it's like, I don't want you to.
Speaker 1: Watch that off just yet.
Speaker 30: Okay, swing around.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 13: I like some twang on that thing, so you know
Speaker 13: what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's at flavor, it's at a presence. I need
Speaker 1: to know it's there, Like I know, it's like it's
Speaker 1: that let me know what.
Speaker 29: Yeah, yeah, you know, real woman doesn't need that. I
Speaker 29: did an ingredients. You know, we have that old record.
Speaker 1: It's about me, lady. I got a lady in my life.
Speaker 1: This is not new she except last but you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, there's just things that I ever said.
Speaker 11: So yeah, So for me, if I felt if answer
Speaker 11: your question, if we're in the club and it's been
Speaker 11: a night and it's been a little must or whatever,
Speaker 11: you know, I might want to freshen up or whatever.
Speaker 9: But for her, hold on, if you're in the club,
Speaker 9: everybody is a little musk stinky, and and that's what
Speaker 9: drives it mean equalizer.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that we're all funky. So let's be from we're drunk.
Speaker 11: Let's go we're drunk and funky, we're drunk. It's a
Speaker 11: it's a combination. So so yeah, so that's the thing.
Speaker 11: But okay, so now let's get off women's hea. She
Speaker 11: took the conversation.
Speaker 13: I respect.
Speaker 14: With you.
Speaker 9: So working on working on a new record. If you
Speaker 9: need an interlude talking about that and feel.
Speaker 1: Free, you can drop that.
Speaker 28: I'm gonna need you for that.
Speaker 15: I got you.
Speaker 1: I drop it all this.
Speaker 11: So you working on it on the new record be
Speaker 11: out next year. In the meantime, what are you.
Speaker 29: Just touring the e P Yeah, so I'm just touring
Speaker 29: at the moment. A lot of shows, a few special features. Yeah, man,
Speaker 29: I'm just here and there and tomorrow or flight to
Speaker 29: Atlanta for.
Speaker 28: A C three. I see a free see a C
Speaker 28: three Get yeah, a C three. So yeah, I'm just
Speaker 28: I'm just all over the place.
Speaker 9: Man, enjoy it, enjoy Are you still do you still
Speaker 9: have your your clothing line? The freaking out line.
Speaker 29: No, it's so crazy when people say that to me,
Speaker 29: because I just didn't think people will be researching to
Speaker 29: see that, you know what I mean. That was just
Speaker 29: a little thing I was doing on the side of music.
Speaker 29: But at the moment, I'm just it's our Yeah, that
Speaker 29: could do UK. It's got all the you know, the
Speaker 29: little the relatable quotes. I say, my queen's beeches like
Speaker 29: crispy bacon, bushy teeth, change your panties, you know, all
Speaker 29: that fat one eye and your man fit you up.
Speaker 29: Little little things there, you know what I mean. Because
Speaker 29: I knew, I knew people would want at least some
Speaker 29: type of merchandise. I've got the tooth bushes with the
Speaker 29: bushy teeth on my logo. I've got the crispy bacon
Speaker 29: lip balm.
Speaker 28: I wish I brought something you guys saying you need
Speaker 28: it bacon.
Speaker 29: No, it doesn't actually actually tastes like cherry. It's actually nice.
Speaker 28: It's actually nice.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: It's okay, you brought brown around.
Speaker 28: Yeah next time and have to have to hook you
Speaker 28: up with some some stuff.
Speaker 11: All right, well, lady, thank you for probably one of
Speaker 11: the most open quest Love Supreme. And you know what
Speaker 11: I'm saying. We wish you much love and much success
Speaker 11: on your on your journey and on your tour. You know,
Speaker 11: be saved, good luck at h you see, and just
Speaker 11: thank you for being a part.
Speaker 1: Thank you for taking time your day and waiting and
Speaker 1: just you know, I know how it is.
Speaker 11: So ladies and gentlemen, Lady on question screen, Lady Lake
Speaker 11: shop Lady.
Speaker 9: It's a song by Johnny gil called Lady du Jour
Speaker 9: and I just in Johnny Gill is in my brain
Speaker 9: right now.
Speaker 13: I'm hit me up.
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