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Speaker 3: of one skill less peace.
Speaker 1: One Detroit story.
Speaker 4: I've been dying to know that I haven't asked anyone
Speaker 4: well versed in sports or from the area, is where
Speaker 4: were you on November nineteen, two thousand and four.
Speaker 1: Malice at the Palace.
Speaker 5: Malice at the Palace? Oh man, I knew you were
Speaker 5: going here. I was like, it's gonna probably be about
Speaker 5: malice for the Palace.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there is no sports besides Jordan Highlight real.
Speaker 1: Films on YouTube.
Speaker 4: I watched that religiously, like I know every frame of
Speaker 4: that brawl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so Malice at the Palace? What was this?
Speaker 5: So Malice at the Palace was? It was a scrap
Speaker 5: like you know, now call the NBA fight something you like?
Speaker 5: These just too motherfucker's backpler Like, no, Malice at the
Speaker 5: Palace is why you don't see scraps in the NBA anymore?
Speaker 2: Have you seen I've never seen it. I didn't know
Speaker 2: what it was.
Speaker 5: I don't know if they show it.
Speaker 4: It is by far the worst fight I've ever seen
Speaker 4: an NBA history.
Speaker 6: It's magical.
Speaker 5: You'll have to text in the footage because it's like
Speaker 5: completely magical.
Speaker 4: It's it's going to be its own thirty for thirty episode.
Speaker 1: I feel it.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't think it will the only reason something like, well,
Speaker 5: something I learned at ESPN is that the NBA is
Speaker 5: extremely strict about you. It's a reason you don't see
Speaker 5: malice from the Palace footage like ever, like you see
Speaker 5: it in the Pistons dock.
Speaker 6: I think you saw it, like the Bad Boys. I
Speaker 6: feel like I think it might.
Speaker 5: Be in it might have been in there, but like
Speaker 5: you don't really see it because the NBA does not
Speaker 5: allow clearance of the footage of that. Because I remember
Speaker 5: when I was, yeah, when I was at the when
Speaker 5: I was at ESPN, it was the five year anniversary,
Speaker 5: and it was some things I wanted to do with
Speaker 5: talking about the fight, and I couldn't do them because
Speaker 5: the NBA would not give ESPN permission to do this.
Speaker 6: So they tried to like this did not happen.
Speaker 5: Thomas like Pistons, Like no, no, this was this was
Speaker 5: the Pistons era with Rip Hamilton and Ben Wallace, uh
Speaker 5: Tayshaun Prince Rashe Wallace. Oh yeah, so what happened was
Speaker 5: this It's like Indiana at this point, because I know
Speaker 5: it's hard to look at the Pistons now because we're
Speaker 5: so shitty, but yes, we actually used to be a
Speaker 5: very good basketball team in the early two thousand when
Speaker 5: Martin was sorry that I was like.
Speaker 1: That year they were they won the championship in two
Speaker 1: thousand and three.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we won the championship at oh four. What happened
Speaker 5: was is that Indiana and Detroit were rivals. You know,
Speaker 5: the Pistons went to six straight Eastern Conference finals. Indiana
Speaker 5: was the other team jockey and for the position and basically,
Speaker 5: you know, the the Pacers had kind of had a
Speaker 5: very statement win. It was on national TV statement win
Speaker 5: at the Palace, whipped the Pistons whole entire ass like
Speaker 5: beat they ass and the last maybe minute of the game,
Speaker 5: it might have been maybe like the last thirty seconds
Speaker 5: run our tests decides he he is gonna not only
Speaker 5: have a statement win, he like, we're gonna win the
Speaker 5: game and the fight. So so he has been egging
Speaker 5: on being Wallace this entire game. You know Bill Wallace
Speaker 5: raady defensive player of the year. He one of them
Speaker 5: country strong brothers, Like this year is unbelievable.
Speaker 6: So went to McNee state like he he.
Speaker 5: With the bullshit, right, So, so you know, he had
Speaker 5: been needling them the whole game and being is like
Speaker 5: got a quiet demeanor. He had enough, so he just
Speaker 5: he shoved round our tests and run our test. Decides
Speaker 5: to go over, you know, because that's what he does.
Speaker 5: He agitates people run our tests. You know, they teend
Speaker 5: up being you know, players getting the faces. But no,
Speaker 5: Biggie Rodard Test goes over to the scores table and
Speaker 5: decides to lay down, just lay down flat across the.
Speaker 6: On the scores table, right.
Speaker 5: And so he's laying down on the scores table and
Speaker 5: out of the stands comes a beer that hits him
Speaker 5: while he's on the scores table.
Speaker 6: And round our test.
Speaker 5: It took him about zero point five seconds before he
Speaker 5: got up, charging to the stands and beat the ship
Speaker 5: out the wrong fan.
Speaker 6: He didn't beat the shit.
Speaker 5: Out of the dude, the right one that through the beer,
Speaker 5: because he didn't get to him.
Speaker 2: He got to this one dude.
Speaker 5: And then next thing, you know, the fans jump in,
Speaker 5: they jumping him. Then the players from the pacers they
Speaker 5: go into the stands and Stephen Jackson goes right up
Speaker 5: into the Because Stephen Jackson was was Ron our Test's teammate.
Speaker 5: So y'all know how Stephen Jackson, Captain jack get down.
Speaker 2: He does not fuck around either.
Speaker 5: Like it was a whole bunch of people from the
Speaker 5: not fucking a Round crew on two teams and that's why.
Speaker 5: So they in the stands fighting the stands. Meanwhile fans
Speaker 5: decide to come on to the floor. And I'm sure
Speaker 5: this is probably Quest's favorite part. This one thing came
Speaker 5: up to the store and I swear to god, Jermaine
Speaker 5: O'Neil almost ended his life.
Speaker 2: He all about five for five.
Speaker 5: He gonna roll up on six eleven, Jermaine O'Neill, and
Speaker 5: he got the two piece, the biscuit, the sides, and
Speaker 5: a large orange.
Speaker 2: He got old down.
Speaker 6: To make sure he cleansed his palate. He got all
Speaker 6: of that.
Speaker 5: So you are just seeing pockets of ass whoopings happened
Speaker 5: all around the arena. So when you go back and
Speaker 5: watch the footage, you could literally watch a different ass
Speaker 5: whooping every time.
Speaker 6: It's just unbelievable. They removed it from YouTube, y'all.
Speaker 5: They might have because the NBA is again very protective
Speaker 5: about this footage. So they showed this on the Jordan
Speaker 5: the last day. So really what happened was that wine
Speaker 5: that wound up honestly ruining uh, the the pacers domination
Speaker 5: at the time, you know, because they handed out rod
Speaker 5: our tests got the largest suspension, non drug suspension in
Speaker 5: NBA history. You know, he was gone for the rest
Speaker 5: of the season. Jermaine O'Neill. They gave him like sixty games.
Speaker 5: He might as well have been gone for the season.
Speaker 5: It completely tore apart their entire team. So, yeah, to
Speaker 5: answer you a question about where I was, I actually
Speaker 5: I was a sports reporter then, but I was covering
Speaker 5: college football and basketball.
Speaker 6: I was in Happy Valley. I was at Penn State
Speaker 6: because I State.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was at pan State and we were watching
Speaker 5: at the bar, and I'm sitting there watching like, what
Speaker 5: the hell just happened? And not surprisingly, people use this
Speaker 5: as an opportunity to take a lot of shots at
Speaker 5: Detroit because clearly we have a reputation for being a
Speaker 5: violent city, much like a lot of major urban cities.
Speaker 5: But what I had to constantly remind people and what
Speaker 5: they didn't say, the Palace of Auburn Hills, what this
Speaker 5: happened is a good hour from Detroit. It's in the
Speaker 5: richest county in Michigan. Black folks were not going to
Speaker 5: like all the people you see getting they ass whooped.
Speaker 6: The only person who got.
Speaker 5: Their asswhipped that was black iness was Fred Jones, who
Speaker 5: was on the Indiana Pacers. His brother got his ass
Speaker 5: beat down by Bill Wallace's brother, Black on black crime
Speaker 5: at his finest, like, that's not only black people. You
Speaker 5: just see no black people running up on Ron our Tests.
Speaker 5: You did see the black people. Didn't know black people
Speaker 5: throw shit. We ain't douce shit. That was not our shit, Okay.
Speaker 5: That was some white folks acting a food okay, and
Speaker 5: they were about to get exactly now, I will say this,
Speaker 5: I am thankful it did happen at the Palace, which
Speaker 5: again is in a very zat suburban because if that
Speaker 5: had happened at the city, it would.
Speaker 7: Have been people waiting outside.
Speaker 5: This you got to understand how we do it in
Speaker 5: the d Now, that ship might have been something else, Okay,
Speaker 5: that would have been a tragedy and not just that
Speaker 5: ass whip it because like, we don't play that shit.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I knew Ron our Tests was a
Speaker 3: different dude when like I did. I'm not I wasn't
Speaker 3: a sports fan at all. I knew Ron was a
Speaker 3: different nigga when I heard his Michael Jackson tribute song. Okay,
Speaker 3: Michael Michael, Michael.
Speaker 2: My nigga, you make this up. I'm not making this up.
Speaker 3: Google, ron Or Tests Michael Jackson's tribute Now you released
Speaker 3: it like the day after Michael Jackson died, and it
Speaker 3: was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Michael Michael, Michael, you my nigga. I'm not lying about Test. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I thought you would have knew this to me, the
Speaker 3: way you like to play like.
Speaker 2: He just found it. Oh god, oh wow, Michael Michael, Michael,
Speaker 2: you my nigga.
Speaker 6: And the fact that you know the course is ending
Speaker 6: right now, that's.
Speaker 2: How I know Ron Tests.
Speaker 3: I mean I knew when he became Metal World peace
Speaker 3: right that's name.
Speaker 1: Now Well.
Speaker 4: M w well what I was leading to, Well, your
Speaker 4: one was where were you at when it happened? But
Speaker 4: Detroit has such I know, like, yes, the Philadelphia that
Speaker 4: always had to face Boston. Yes, I can attest to
Speaker 4: the fact that many a racial moment at the hands
Speaker 4: of Boston fans have occurred, and you know I've seen it.
Speaker 1: But I'll say that Detroit probably.
Speaker 4: Has the second most intense fan base next to Philadelphia,
Speaker 4: which Philadelphia is yeah, no, but it's well, okay, maybe
Speaker 4: as a team, not the fans. We are the worst
Speaker 4: fans of all time. But is it necessary for you
Speaker 4: guys to always be like the bad boys of whatever?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's in basketball.
Speaker 5: It is something we wear with honor because understand that
Speaker 5: when the bad Boys were winning, we interrupted a narrative
Speaker 5: that was going on in the NBA at that time.
Speaker 5: It was supposed to be Magic and Larry Bird. That
Speaker 5: was the error, right, that was the rivalry. And then
Speaker 5: here comes Isaiah Thomas out of nowhere having a nerve
Speaker 5: to win back to back titles. And because of the
Speaker 5: brand of basketball that Detroit was playing, and let's not
Speaker 5: get it twisted, people act like I seen many eclipse
Speaker 5: where Kevin McHale was lumping motherfuckers up.
Speaker 6: I saw media clips Robert Parrish.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know he he's sitting up there just
Speaker 5: almost damn near Macho May and Randy Savage and people
Speaker 5: like all the time. But we were the ones who
Speaker 5: got the reputation because I think it went hand in
Speaker 5: hand to generally what people thought of the city. You know,
Speaker 5: Detroit has always had this reputation of being not just
Speaker 5: a violent city, but a city that nobody gives a fuck.
Speaker 6: About, Like Detroit. People just don't deserve nice things.
Speaker 5: That's just been the general attitude, like we're not cool
Speaker 5: like Chicago. You know what I'm saying, Like we're not
Speaker 5: cool like Chicago. We're not cool like New York. We're
Speaker 5: not cool like La. They murder rates to look like ours.
Speaker 5: But people love these cities because they think they're so
Speaker 5: cool and trendy. And it with Detroit, we're treated like
Speaker 5: a stain on this country. And yeah, I mean, even
Speaker 5: though Motown obviously gave you, you know, one of the
Speaker 5: greatest black empires of all time, the reality is that
Speaker 5: that's always been our lot in life. And because of
Speaker 5: that disrespect, I think our general conditioning tells us, Okay,
Speaker 5: oh y'all think we ain't shit, well, we're gonna act
Speaker 5: as eight shit as possible. And so that was always,
Speaker 5: you know, kind of the thing with the bad boys.
Speaker 5: They were taking on very much the character of the
Speaker 5: city like a hard, scrappy.
Speaker 1: We'll show you crazy, yes.
Speaker 5: Exactly, like you think we're bad boys. Okay, let's see what.
Speaker 5: We'll show you what we're about. And we knew that,
Speaker 5: you know, truly, the campaign starting to Detroit, Detroit versus
Speaker 5: everybody that's our mentality, and that translated to a lot
Speaker 5: of our sports teams, but the Pistons in particular, because
Speaker 5: you know, the black identity is kind of tied up
Speaker 5: in that mindset that we all we got c M B,
Speaker 5: we all we got So because of that, that's why
Speaker 5: you'll find that a lot of Detroiters take an unusually
Speaker 5: high amount of almost delusional pride in the city.
Speaker 6: When you run into anybody.
Speaker 5: From Detroit, you're like, damn, don't like, Yes, that's how
Speaker 5: we are, you know, and so and for that, you know,
Speaker 5: I think the way that that city having that character
Speaker 5: certainly is something that whenever I've run into obstacles or whatever,
Speaker 5: it's that character that was that was kind of infused
Speaker 5: in me early being from this city that has really
Speaker 5: helped me whether a lot of different things in my life.
Speaker 6: It's like, you know, we just tough, We just we
Speaker 6: just built different.
Speaker 3: Now, y'all got a chip. So I'm a production part
Speaker 3: of ZOUL. He's Detroit and talk to him. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: is Detroit. Yeah, the DMV know he's been there for
Speaker 3: like the past, you know, twelve thirteen years, have a
Speaker 3: long but not Detroit is home for him.
Speaker 2: But in being around him.
Speaker 3: He just explained to me, I kind of got that
Speaker 3: mentality like everything you say, Jamil, just out Detroiters. You
Speaker 3: just kind of have that chip on your shoulder, like
Speaker 3: it's just that eternal chip that you know you're gonna
Speaker 3: go harder.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show you like it's that thing.
Speaker 3: And it's and it's even different than like a Chicago
Speaker 3: kind of hip, Like it's a different it's a different thing.
Speaker 2: It's but yeah, but all my the thing I always
Speaker 2: like about Detroiters is that.
Speaker 3: You know what it is with them. There's no ambiguity.
Speaker 3: They either love you or they hate you, and you
Speaker 3: know what it is. And I appreciate that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we I mean we ride for our folks.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, anybody from the d or just
Speaker 5: people that we love that show us love. You know,
Speaker 5: Isaiah Thomas is from Chicago, but you know he can
Speaker 5: do no wrong in Detroit ever, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: because that's our dude. And it's the same any of
Speaker 5: those pistons in O four that got into Mallas in
Speaker 5: the Palace when the whole nation.
Speaker 6: Was just just.
Speaker 5: Throwing shots at Detroit about oh this is what you
Speaker 5: expect from a violent city. We're like fucking the happy
Speaker 5: at Aubury Hills. That ain't even us, but we'll claim it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's us, now, what you know. So it's it's been
Speaker 5: a it's a badge honor.
Speaker 6: Definitely.
Speaker 4: Question Barry Sanders, did you ever get to meet him,
Speaker 4: watch him play, interview him, or.
Speaker 1: Anything like that.
Speaker 6: Like I said, I'm ten thousand years old even so.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So here here's the the unusualness about my my Detroit fandom.
Speaker 5: The one team I'm not a fan of is the
Speaker 5: Lions because Lions it was.
Speaker 6: So damn shitty.
Speaker 5: Like you, if you can see in my background, you
Speaker 5: see this little mini helmet here. That's my husband's he
Speaker 5: alliance fan. Please pray for him because he's from Detroit too.
Speaker 2: I'm a forty nine ers.
Speaker 5: Yes, the big helmet is mine because we actually win things,
Speaker 5: unlike the Lions. So to answer your point, though, I mean,
Speaker 5: you know Barry during that time we talk in late eighties,
Speaker 5: you know, early nineties. I mean, he was some of
Speaker 5: the for the Lions on some of the best teams
Speaker 5: they've ever had. The thing about Barry is when you
Speaker 5: meet him, like he's a very soft spoken very quiet,
Speaker 5: you know, kind of person. But I don't know if
Speaker 5: I've seen too many players rupture more Achilles and tare
Speaker 5: Mour knees than Barry. Standers did trying to tackle that. Dude,
Speaker 5: asked Rod Woodson, still looking for his kneecap because of Barry,
Speaker 5: saying okay, you know, and he could make he I mean,
Speaker 5: he's the only running back probably in history that could
Speaker 5: make a one yard loss look like the most incredible
Speaker 5: play you have ever seen in your life. And it
Speaker 5: was an exciting time for Lions fans then because he
Speaker 5: was such a superstar, somebody who was committed to the city.
Speaker 5: Barry still lives in Detroit, and that's yeah, he still
Speaker 5: lives there. I mean that's you know, and very beloved.
Speaker 5: And that's the people we that gives us a special
Speaker 5: kind of pride with. It's people that are not even
Speaker 5: from there, people that as soon as they're done playing,
Speaker 5: that could leave and they still stay there anyway.
Speaker 6: I mean that's just love.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yo, Okay, that reminds me speaking of Detroit, because
Speaker 3: I don't think me and you never talked about this
Speaker 3: on your show.
Speaker 2: What is your Detroit take? On? Kwame?
Speaker 5: I was about to ask in the middle, I was
Speaker 5: talking about they ain't breaking and they spelled.
Speaker 7: I was like, well, that nigga cme definitely made it.
Speaker 5: I mean that might be the most that might be
Speaker 5: the most detroit nigga. Ever, I ain't gonna lie like
Speaker 5: that is what? What is he in prison?
Speaker 3: They was talking about it for a minute and then
Speaker 3: they stopped it. Your Christine she ended up was on
Speaker 3: like a show or something that.
Speaker 5: Was about It was about women who, like they they
Speaker 5: basically tried to pick up their lives and put it
Speaker 5: back together after something happened. And I mean, it's a
Speaker 5: long story, but it's such as the women involve will
Speaker 5: call me is like what y'all talking about? Yes, it's
Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's what I mean. That's that's what
Speaker 5: I remember. I remember texting, texting, it's been so long.
Speaker 6: It's just such a his story.
Speaker 5: And I was there when when all of it unfolding,
Speaker 5: and working at the newspaper that I want a Pulitzer
Speaker 5: for for essentially taking him down, you know.
Speaker 6: So Kwame.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if y'all remember this, but Kwame
Speaker 5: was built. He was on the conversary Mayor.
Speaker 2: Is over here we go in five.
Speaker 5: Out there in nine button suits, the Steve Harvey Specials
Speaker 5: Steve collection.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: He proposed of this and uh so he it's a
Speaker 5: different look. He got an ear ring in his ear.
Speaker 5: He in his early thirties. He the mayor of Detroit,
Speaker 5: you know, one of the blackest cities in the country.
Speaker 5: All that ship is a recipe for disaster because because
Speaker 5: you know, when you're mayor, obviously you have you know,
Speaker 5: you have power, you have a security detail, access, you
Speaker 5: have access, you got you got a city credit card,
Speaker 5: you got all these other things. He went to DC
Speaker 5: about the borrow out. We can't we had the mayor
Speaker 5: that was doing stuff like that. It was just it
Speaker 5: was just like it was just so like he would
Speaker 5: give you a professionalism with some hood and it's just
Speaker 5: like what like I swear.
Speaker 1: To guy, every every addressed with or like.
Speaker 5: But he did have on I mean, I'm sure you guys,
Speaker 5: as musicians, at some point you probably had to do
Speaker 5: an interview or do something with w JLB at Detroit,
Speaker 5: which is like the big earthen station in the v
Speaker 5: and he he had a weekly segment on JAILB talking
Speaker 5: about called how at the mayor.
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, that was the That was the original podcast.
Speaker 5: So uh, the movie had a State with Chris Rock
Speaker 5: was partly based off Kame Kirkpatrick, like if this dude
Speaker 5: could like that's what.
Speaker 6: He was a good mayor or No, it.
Speaker 5: Was just about the fact that what happens when you
Speaker 5: just take an address abject negro dem to a political
Speaker 5: office and the shenanigans that can shoot. Because it's a
Speaker 5: lost story short, this is ultimately the downfall of Kwame
Speaker 5: Kilpatrick and it's based off one of the most infamous
Speaker 5: yet unproven Steell stories about what happened during his regime.
Speaker 5: So the urban tale is that and how this all
Speaker 5: kick started him going down for investing city.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, because of course yes. Oh no, it's a
Speaker 6: whole thing.
Speaker 5: So the Minogian Mansion is the mayoral mansion in Detroit.
Speaker 5: The urban legend is that Kwame Kilpatrick threw a party there,
Speaker 5: a huge party that you talked to anybody from Detroit,
Speaker 5: they swear they was there, but nobody knows shit, but
Speaker 5: they all.
Speaker 2: Said they was there.
Speaker 6: He threw this party. Wife, he goes out of town.
Speaker 5: Wife, he circles back to the party because I don't know,
Speaker 5: I guess it was like something just ay right or whatever. Right,
Speaker 5: So she circles back, supposedly comes back, and the urban
Speaker 5: legend is Kwame was there. It was strippers, his boys,
Speaker 5: party out of control. She beat up the stripper who
Speaker 5: uh who later wound up who was later murdered, like
Speaker 5: very shortly after this happened, she was murdered execution style
Speaker 5: on the street of Detroit.
Speaker 6: What it's still unsolved. It's still unsolved, right.
Speaker 5: So then you know this party like people spent I
Speaker 5: mean investigative reports really tried to uncover like did this
Speaker 5: party take place?
Speaker 7: Did not?
Speaker 5: Whatever happened, long story short is that, uh, he was
Speaker 5: also having an affair with his with his deputy, who
Speaker 5: was Christine Beatty, who is talking about on the I
Speaker 5: think she was like his deputies. Now she wasn't deputy mayor.
Speaker 5: I don't know if she was press secretary. She was
Speaker 5: one of those positions.
Speaker 2: Kids used to call him uncle because and he.
Speaker 6: Was best friends with her, friends with her husband. Now
Speaker 6: this is all on the record.
Speaker 5: So he had an affair with Christine Beatty, and what
Speaker 5: happened is dirty macket.
Speaker 6: It was just a dirty mackett.
Speaker 5: Is that he used city money to continue his dirty,
Speaker 5: dirty the dirty Mackett. So he some of his security
Speaker 5: detail figured out that they were having an affair and
Speaker 5: he was trying to get them to lie for him
Speaker 5: and do all you know, like you can't do that, right,
Speaker 5: and so uh, they he fired one of them. The
Speaker 5: dude that he fired wound up suing him and all
Speaker 5: these part of the evidence was all these text messages.
Speaker 6: So I'm just trying to figure out how.
Speaker 2: Let's clear all these text messages on company phone phones,
Speaker 2: on the city phones.
Speaker 5: Here's a little uh, here's a little tip pro tip
Speaker 5: that people may not know. We have something called the
Speaker 5: the uh.
Speaker 2: Freedom of right.
Speaker 5: It's called foy For sure, any public official and government
Speaker 5: of office, you can put in a Fourier requests and
Speaker 5: get everything they've written on city whatever, every all the
Speaker 5: text messages, anything, because anything you're governor local government does
Speaker 5: it is public information. It's still a lot they may
Speaker 5: have to sue to get it because some people try
Speaker 5: to block it, but it's all public information. Like you
Speaker 5: could go down right now and ask for the like,
Speaker 5: you know, the mayor's contract or the city contract with
Speaker 5: the police department. They have to give it to you
Speaker 5: because it's all public information. So this is reporters. We
Speaker 5: use this all the time to our advantage. So long
Speaker 5: story short, these text messages, the free press gets them,
Speaker 5: and their text messages not only to Kwame and Christine Beatty,
Speaker 5: proven that they did indeed have this affair, proven that
Speaker 5: he did fire this main person in his security detail
Speaker 5: because he did it out of vindictiveness and vengeance, because
Speaker 5: he wanted him to try to cover up his affair,
Speaker 5: and he wouldn't do it till he fired him. And
Speaker 5: he wound up suing the city for eleven million dollars.
Speaker 5: And it was like a whole thing. These text messages
Speaker 5: were pure gold. I mean pure gold.
Speaker 2: Yes, we were climing player.
Speaker 5: Actually, I think we used to read him out loud
Speaker 5: on the radio, like do a dramatic interpretation. They're so
Speaker 5: unbelievable and you come to find out, you know, it
Speaker 5: wasn't just Christy Beattie, Like the mayor was out there
Speaker 5: doing his just told him I'm mac you know, he
Speaker 5: was out there doing his.
Speaker 7: First song to hit me at this time.
Speaker 5: I would just like to shout out to all the
Speaker 5: young black mayors who are doing their thing. Asia Brown,
Speaker 5: I see you in Compton and Michael Tubbs and California Stockton,
Speaker 5: I see you as well.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and the new mayor of Ferguson first black man.
Speaker 5: Wait, she's not my Black Lives Matter sister though, right,
Speaker 5: it's that's.
Speaker 6: The one who is.
Speaker 5: She won the primary and it's poised to to win
Speaker 5: a representative seat. But no, I mean so it was
Speaker 5: just abject foolishness. And on top of all the things
Speaker 5: he was doing, he put his daddy on a city
Speaker 5: contract that.
Speaker 6: Like he never made it on. It was just foolish man.
Speaker 5: His boy, uh, he allowed him he had he had
Speaker 5: done some reckless and he allowed him to report to
Speaker 5: jail on the weekends. And it turned out he wasn't
Speaker 5: even report to jail on the weekends. It was like
Speaker 5: it was just every time he could possibly steal he
Speaker 5: figured out a way to try to steal it.
Speaker 3: But so basically he was the blueprint for Trump pretty much.
Speaker 2: I mean pretty much.
Speaker 5: I mean he he hooked up his family in a
Speaker 5: very similar fashion. And you know, Detroit already a broke city,
Speaker 5: so it's like we ain't even got shipped, and you
Speaker 5: just so you have just stolen everything that wasn't nailed down.
Speaker 6: So gentrification yet hell yeah, we got it now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not back then.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I mean there were some uh
Speaker 5: you know Detroit that's just like every like any city.
Speaker 5: You know, it's right off the waterfront in Canada's our neighbor.
Speaker 5: So all that all that stuff was, you know, they
Speaker 5: basically waited on property values to be depressed. And now
Speaker 5: I go downtown, they got a Lululemon and a Whole
Speaker 5: Foods and I can't believe it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a bunch of white people.
Speaker 5: Like now you go downtown Detroit, you going the restaurant,
Speaker 5: you might the only black person in there, which is
Speaker 5: crazy to me.
Speaker 4: Before the lockdown, I went to Detroit, and I meant,
Speaker 4: you know, I still considered, especially when Dylan was here
Speaker 4: with us. I mean, I made a line share of
Speaker 4: a lot of albums I'm known for in the city
Speaker 4: of Detroit, and it is.
Speaker 1: Night and day.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 4: I know a lot of that has to do with gentrification.
Speaker 4: I mean they're white, is okay?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I was.
Speaker 4: Going to say, like, how do you feel about how
Speaker 4: Detroit has transformed? Because now things that I've never seen
Speaker 4: twenty years ago, like farmed the table restaurants.
Speaker 6: And yeah, they call South Toronto now luxury.
Speaker 4: Yeah, luxury, luxury like hotels that were former firehouses or banks.
Speaker 5: And yes, I know exactly where you stay if you
Speaker 5: stayed that that converted all the time.
Speaker 4: Yo, it's so luxurious or is that? Or is that
Speaker 4: a flim flam for tourists that just come to downtown
Speaker 4: Detroit Meanwhile the other miles five, six, seven, eight, not whatever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, gentrification stops at a certain point. So for me
Speaker 5: it is Yeah, I'll be blunt. I don't like it.
Speaker 5: And the reason I don't like it is not because
Speaker 5: I don't want to see Detroit step into a progression,
Speaker 5: and it's not that I don't want my city to
Speaker 5: do well. I don't like it because for years and
Speaker 5: years and years, there was a lot of black people,
Speaker 5: a lot of black business owners who poured their sweat
Speaker 5: equity into the city of Detroit, into downtown Detroit when
Speaker 5: we wasn't fashionable to fuck with us, and they got
Speaker 5: pushed out because there's there's not a lot of black
Speaker 5: businesses down there. You brought up Dila his donut spot
Speaker 5: is one of the few black businesses that were down there.
Speaker 5: I think it may have closed since, but the donuts
Speaker 5: were really good at any rate. So that's the part
Speaker 5: that I think not just in Detroit, but Oakland, you
Speaker 5: go to most of the major cities. That's the part
Speaker 5: that doesn't sit well is that as soon as they
Speaker 5: able to flip the complexion of what the place looks like,
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden, grocery stores. I mean when
Speaker 5: I when I was growing up, the last department store
Speaker 5: Detroit closed and it wasn't one downtown for years, years
Speaker 5: and years and years. And now to see like under Armour,
Speaker 5: Nike all these places correct, it's like now you got these,
Speaker 5: you know, million dollar condos and swinging lofts and all
Speaker 5: that other stuff, which is which is great, But I
Speaker 5: look at who's in these buildings, who owns these buildings,
Speaker 5: and who's really benefiting off the sweat equity that people
Speaker 5: who are real Detroit just put into that place for years,
Speaker 5: and it's not us. So it's it's it's a little
Speaker 5: hurtful to see.
Speaker 1: Is the Anthemium still up the Atheneum?
Speaker 6: Yep, it's still there. My problem was at the Atheneum.
Speaker 4: I gotta say that I believe I think the Anthemium
Speaker 4: opened in ninety seven.
Speaker 1: I believe either ninety six or ninety seven.
Speaker 5: I think it opened before then because my prom was
Speaker 5: there and I enjoyed it in ninety three, so well.
Speaker 4: They did they did something where they did to repurpose right,
Speaker 4: and we were like one of the first people stay there.
Speaker 4: So it was like a brand new condo. Like it
Speaker 4: was like a touch of elegance. And then twenty years later,
Speaker 4: not quite say it's like a two star hotel.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, but they got better.
Speaker 5: I mean they got a lot of great places now,
Speaker 5: like you mentioned the converted firehouse, and then they got
Speaker 5: a new joy, the Shinola Hotel, which is like, yeah, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, say there too. Yeah, did you ever go to
Speaker 1: the hip hop shop in your teen years? The spots
Speaker 1: that Maurice Malone Like, yeah.
Speaker 6: I never went there.
Speaker 5: A lot of my friends were there, but that's obviously
Speaker 5: a very legendary place to go into Detroit, much like St. Andrew's,
Speaker 5: which Fonte brought up earlier, like that those were like
Speaker 5: kind of classic enclaves. I mean I've seen so many
Speaker 5: underground you know, folks at Saint Andrews and even people
Speaker 5: who became you know, a really big deal like I
Speaker 5: saw the first time I saw Jill Scott was at
Speaker 5: Saint Andrews, you know, and she was there in the
Speaker 5: middle of a blizzard, and I was like, this woman
Speaker 5: is incredible and I think getting it away had wasn't
Speaker 5: even that hot yet. But the person I was dating
Speaker 5: at the time was like, oh, you should check her out,
Speaker 5: like she's dope, and he took me to the concert
Speaker 5: and I was like, oh yeah, I fuck with her absolutely.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, it's the are the folks like
Speaker 5: it seems like there's a nice collective of Detroit folks
Speaker 5: that I've done well for themselves and still are connected
Speaker 5: to the city.
Speaker 7: I like, I know, Big Sean definitely do a lot
Speaker 7: for Detroit.
Speaker 5: Royce, the five nine, Yeah, I mean these are all people.
Speaker 7: Want to ask you. How connected are folks?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, you know, I've I've connected.
Speaker 5: I did a podcast with Royce which was great, Like
Speaker 5: Royce is just a real dude, Like love that dude.
Speaker 5: Very underrated lyricists. Uh, he's great. Days is great, Big
Speaker 5: Sean Like when back Black Panthers came where I was like,
Speaker 5: what's I don't know, because I mean and it felt
Speaker 5: like they were it was some image.
Speaker 6: Changing that was happening, Like, yeah, definitely felt like that
Speaker 6: was underway.
Speaker 5: So I'm wondering if this is them trying to craft
Speaker 5: her into something has stunned the growth just to just
Speaker 5: I don't know about it, but just based on hop.
Speaker 6: That's how it looks. So when Black.
Speaker 5: Panther came out, Me Day's Loaf, Big Sean, we all
Speaker 5: collaborated to to get kids in Detroit to send to
Speaker 5: go see the movie. So it's just like, you know,
Speaker 5: all we do got to do is throw up a
Speaker 5: who do you who?
Speaker 2: Call that?
Speaker 5: We all it's Eminem a big part of that collective
Speaker 5: of kind of giving back up. So I know Eminem
Speaker 5: and Royce are tight. I've never had any interaction with Eminem,
Speaker 5: but it's I mean, he's got like, he's got a
Speaker 5: really good reputation in the city. Not a person that
Speaker 5: who you know is from the d who was kind
Speaker 5: of harder to funk with for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 7: Is right, I forgot.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's all I gotta say about that. For him,
Speaker 6: it's still in Detroit to right Detroit area.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm just I'm still trying to figure
Speaker 5: out how dude that grew up outside of Detroit is
Speaker 5: suddenly the foremost bar of the Confederate flag.
Speaker 6: But I digress.
Speaker 4: His thing is he has a black son, and you
Speaker 4: know that's his past.
Speaker 1: So he sister not the.
Speaker 5: Okay, first of all, I didn't know it was Jody
Speaker 5: Whitley's sister.
Speaker 2: I had no idea.
Speaker 5: But yeah, but he's got a black Everybody knew that
Speaker 5: he that he has a black son. So like, so
Speaker 5: him waving that Confederate flag or just him trying to
Speaker 5: flip the script like in college. When I was in college,
Speaker 5: like k Rock was calling our college newspaper all the
Speaker 5: time to try to get us to review his CD,
Speaker 5: you know, because he was a hip hop artist.
Speaker 4: Then, like you know, you spend your formative years trying
Speaker 4: to be down and then you know, when you're forty,
Speaker 4: you just morphed back into what you really.
Speaker 7: Are, like you lose your revolution.
Speaker 4: Like absolutely, I'm sorry, I'm the only one here actually
Speaker 4: like sports.
Speaker 7: That is actually a lie. But go ahead and ask
Speaker 7: question a.
Speaker 1: Couple of quick questions. Who's your favorite Detroit Tiger of
Speaker 1: all time?
Speaker 6: Uh oh, that's such a good question. I'm going to say.
Speaker 6: I'm going to say Kirk Gibson.
Speaker 1: Okay, and what made you nine Ers fan?
Speaker 5: So it's a very boring, ridiculous story. I know you're like,
Speaker 5: how is something boring or ridiculous?
Speaker 6: It was like this.
Speaker 5: So my mother was she was seventeen years old or
Speaker 5: eighteen years old, I think she turned eighteen. She moved
Speaker 5: out to the Bay Area with my father, and I
Speaker 5: was not in the picture quite yet, but I became
Speaker 5: in the picture when they moved out to.
Speaker 6: The Bay Area.
Speaker 5: The sight of my conception is in the Bay and
Speaker 5: so so yeah, my mother while she was out there,
Speaker 5: I wasn't born after I was born in Detroit, but
Speaker 5: she loved the forty nine ers and she really liked
Speaker 5: the team in it and as they got better, and
Speaker 5: then they drafted a young fellow named Joe Montana. She
Speaker 5: was a really big fan of Joe Montana's and so
Speaker 5: she would always talk about the forty nine ers. And
Speaker 5: she was still a Lions fan as well. But the
Speaker 5: Lions were dreadful. They were so shitty when I was
Speaker 5: coming up that I was like, why would I care
Speaker 5: about this team that doesn't w and they're all, you know,
Speaker 5: the franchise seems to be completely incompetent, Like, why would
Speaker 5: I root for the Lions, like who cares?
Speaker 6: Like they suck?
Speaker 5: So taking the part of the forty nine ers from her,
Speaker 5: I just started watching the forty nine ers and they
Speaker 5: just became my team.
Speaker 6: And so hints the helmet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good timing too. The Lions have never won right now.
Speaker 6: They're they're they're in.
Speaker 5: I think it's the Lions in Cleveland are the only
Speaker 5: two NFL teams who have not been to a modern
Speaker 5: day Super Bowl. Oh, for shit, they need to get
Speaker 5: to that motherfucker.
Speaker 6: They can't even sniff it. What But I do tell.
Speaker 5: People that, you know, for as much as the Lions
Speaker 5: have lost the dedication, the fans there are horribly dedicated.
Speaker 6: I live with one, so I know.
Speaker 5: And if they ever went to a Super Bowl, they
Speaker 5: ain't even got a window, bitch. If they ever got there,
Speaker 5: it just get there. It'd be the biggest sports story,
Speaker 5: arguably in Michigan history.
Speaker 1: What's the number one reason why the Lions can't can't
Speaker 1: get there or haven't gotten there?
Speaker 5: Well, you know, as they say, attitude reflect leadership. The
Speaker 5: Ford family has I got that from remember the Titans.
Speaker 5: I'm not a genius, Yeah it was.
Speaker 6: So, you know, the thing is like I believe a
Speaker 6: wood Hare said it.
Speaker 5: So the thing about the Lions is like they've been
Speaker 5: the one constant has been the Ford family ownership. And
Speaker 5: to me, it's like you keep changing coaches, You've changed
Speaker 5: many a quarterback, you've changed offenses. The one constant is
Speaker 5: the leadership up top has not changed. It's been in
Speaker 5: the Ford family for years and will probably be there forever.
Speaker 5: I think, you know, they are just not good football people.
Speaker 5: And you know, right now they're trying to copy a
Speaker 5: blueprint for the Patriots because like other teams have done,
Speaker 5: Like they hired Matt Patricia, who's was the defensive coordinator
Speaker 5: for the Patriots. They have a whole lot of Patriots
Speaker 5: folks in the building loing the GM is somebody from
Speaker 5: the Patriots organization. And what's so funny about that formula
Speaker 5: is that it's not really a formula. The formula was
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick and Tom Brady.
Speaker 7: I say, I thought, OK, unless you.
Speaker 5: Have one of them, then you know, notice none of
Speaker 5: like Bill Belichick's coaching tree is actually terrible. Like the
Speaker 5: best coaching the best person that came from his coaching
Speaker 5: tree is Nick Saban. Everybody else has been bad, you know,
Speaker 5: it's not like Tonyee. Tony Dungee has an incredible coaching tree,
Speaker 5: Bill Walsh incredible coaching tree. Bill Belichick is whack because
Speaker 5: again all of them did not have Tom Brady. So
Speaker 5: unless you can create a Tom Brady, then.
Speaker 2: Good luck Belichick.
Speaker 1: He's part of the Parcels coaching tree.
Speaker 5: And that's my correct So like Bill Parcell's great coaching tree,
Speaker 5: you know. And so at any rate, the Lions they
Speaker 5: just have been They've had just really incompetent front offices,
Speaker 5: just dreadful coaches. I mean, it's just, uh, it just
Speaker 5: hasn't been in the card for cards for them. Look,
Speaker 5: I don't have anything against the lines. I want them
Speaker 5: to do well because I know what it means for
Speaker 5: the city and I want to protect my husband's mental health.
Speaker 5: So now I want them to do y'all think that
Speaker 5: the South will ever get football teams or what?
Speaker 7: Will? They just continue to depend on college football.
Speaker 5: They do have some football teams. They call it the
Speaker 5: SEC pretty much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we got the Panthers.
Speaker 5: Right my trip and I just came to Panthers's But.
Speaker 6: But you and no, probably not.
Speaker 5: And I don't think they want pro sports like they're
Speaker 5: that Like to them, Alabama football is a pro sport.
Speaker 6: I mean, and it is, I mean for real, so
Speaker 6: like it ain't no big deal to them.
Speaker 5: I just came into the enlightenment of why they get
Speaker 5: so hype about college sports.
Speaker 7: I was like, oh my god, there really it's.
Speaker 3: Not a lot of but even here, it's just college
Speaker 3: football in the South is just a different animal relation
Speaker 3: sports panal correct, general, Like I mean the ACC.
Speaker 2: Tournament down here, like when I mean when.
Speaker 3: The world was open, Like our teachers used to roll
Speaker 3: the damn cart in the classroom, you know what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like doing the a SEC tournament. Man, we ain't
Speaker 2: do in school that dope. We watched the joint But.
Speaker 4: It is the point, not isn't the point to support
Speaker 4: that particular player and then watch them going to greatness?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, they wouldn't want a professional football team want.
Speaker 7: To make money?
Speaker 2: Well they don't think they don't want to make money, right?
Speaker 1: Do you think they will ever play college players? Ever?
Speaker 5: I think a reckoning is coming because at some point
Speaker 5: they will not be able to hold back the inevitable.
Speaker 5: And what this pandemic has exposed is how their greed
Speaker 5: has honestly put them in this position because here's the thing.
Speaker 5: If they were actually paying the players, people would have
Speaker 5: less of a problem with them playing during this pandemic.
Speaker 5: Like the pros, to play is one thing because they're pros,
Speaker 5: they're paid, they all have unions. If college players were
Speaker 5: actually paid, there would not be a lot of handwringing
Speaker 5: about whether or not they should be playing. You wouldn't
Speaker 5: have to worry about the optics of having players on
Speaker 5: campus but not regular students, which sends the message that
Speaker 5: it's okay to say, we have to sacrifice your lives
Speaker 5: and your health and your safety because we built an
Speaker 5: entire free economy off your free labor.
Speaker 2: Off this. Yeah, seen thousand people watching Nigga solve a
Speaker 2: math problems, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So that that's what's being exposed.
Speaker 5: I mean it's always been that way, but I think
Speaker 5: it's become especially obvious during this pandemic is that you
Speaker 5: have you know, you have people who have seven figure salaries.
Speaker 5: You know, those college towns in Alabama. Think about what
Speaker 5: happens to Tuscaloosa with no Alabama football.
Speaker 6: So it's no shock that the.
Speaker 5: SEC has decided to continue to play because they have
Speaker 5: built an entire economy around these players.
Speaker 2: It's a whole ecosystem.
Speaker 5: It's a whole ecosystem exactly, Nick sab but it's making
Speaker 5: eight nine million dollars a year. You think that's the
Speaker 5: question about the pros being in some of these towns,
Speaker 5: because I'm like, well, if they had a pro team,
Speaker 5: may be able to kind of balance out a little bit.
Speaker 7: I mean, it was right. I guess you're right.
Speaker 6: And not only that the Southern states.
Speaker 5: I mean, not that this has stopped anybody from putting
Speaker 5: sports ahead of the welfare of their constituents, but Southern
Speaker 5: states are are generally the poor states in the nation.
Speaker 5: So it's like there's also you know, here's why I
Speaker 5: love it when these conservatives always got they always got
Speaker 5: heat for Chicago and Democratic cities.
Speaker 6: I'm like, have you seen Mississippi?
Speaker 2: Motherfucker?
Speaker 5: Like all the Republican governors are in the worst states.
Speaker 5: It's just like, all right, okay, y'all, ain't got no
Speaker 5: room for talking.
Speaker 7: Just make one one question about the last dance.
Speaker 5: I to have a Michael George question, because you was
Speaker 5: talking about activism, were talking about the NBA and it's
Speaker 5: lack and that was picking back up with Lebron.
Speaker 7: What can't we blame your boy a little bit?
Speaker 2: You know we can't.
Speaker 3: But I have a very North Carolina take on this.
Speaker 3: But I'm curious for you.
Speaker 6: I'm kidding, I would say this.
Speaker 5: I think that we need to look at Jordan's off
Speaker 5: the field or off the court contributions in a different way.
Speaker 5: So here's what we have to recognize. What Jordan did
Speaker 5: do for black athletes. He gave them a blueprint for
Speaker 5: generational wealth, for global success.
Speaker 6: He also proved to.
Speaker 5: The business community that you can make a black man,
Speaker 5: a dark skinned black man, the face of a company
Speaker 5: and you could be a commercial, international success.
Speaker 2: That's what revolution is to him. Like that's him, I
Speaker 2: mean to him.
Speaker 3: So it's like so for me, like when I look
Speaker 3: at it, it's like, you know, there was a piece
Speaker 3: that was written I wanted.
Speaker 2: I think the writer was right Thompson.
Speaker 3: But there's like a piece that was written on Jordan,
Speaker 3: like a couple of months ago that was better than
Speaker 3: the last dance.
Speaker 5: I mean, the ship was amazing piece, because that's like
Speaker 5: the best piece I've ever read on Michael Jordan's.
Speaker 2: That ship is amazing and it breaks down just as
Speaker 2: a Carolina Nigga.
Speaker 3: That ship spoke to my soul. So it just breaks down,
Speaker 3: like his coming up in Wilmington and like the racist
Speaker 3: ship that went down in Wilmington.
Speaker 5: Like everything, I apologize, I'm a North No, it still
Speaker 5: it just gives context.
Speaker 3: And so it just shows like for him for people
Speaker 3: on the outside, like why didn't he speak out? Why
Speaker 3: didn't he do this? For someone like him that literally
Speaker 3: came up on a dirt fucking road, like you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, and like saw all these atrocities and
Speaker 3: you know, from his family and like all this shit,
Speaker 3: the success that was revolution to him, to him is
Speaker 3: just yo, I'm just here to do my fucking job,
Speaker 3: and my job and the work I do on the
Speaker 3: court that's gonna speak for me and speak more for
Speaker 3: my people more than me making a speech ever fucking would.
Speaker 7: And then I'm charge dollars and more for they shoot
Speaker 7: these shoes and they're gonna be all right.
Speaker 5: They might kill each other, fight each other over, but
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna say shit, I'm just gonna let it happen,
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna charge more than this.
Speaker 7: This is gonna be five hundred.
Speaker 3: Dollars because that's what it is I mean, listen, I
Speaker 3: mean if you go to the I mean if you
Speaker 3: look at like Starberry when he tried to do his shoe,
Speaker 3: you know, twenty five dollars shoes right in.
Speaker 7: The middle there got that show was but no.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying it showed that that was price point
Speaker 2: is not an issue for the people that want those shoes,
Speaker 2: Like it's not. Now he's saying niggas need to be
Speaker 2: killing and shooting and ship like that.
Speaker 3: But it was just you know, I don't think all
Speaker 3: that should lay at the feet of Jordan, like niggas
Speaker 3: is gonna do whatever to get them shoes.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't, but I would say I would not lay
Speaker 5: all that there. As the years have gone by, I
Speaker 5: tended to see his his level or brand of activism
Speaker 5: in a different way. That being said, though he had
Speaker 5: opportunities on the most basic shoot all I'm saying like
Speaker 5: him not supporting Harvey Gan against Jesse. It's like dog
Speaker 5: like this is a layup, Like this is al Jordan, Like this.
Speaker 1: Is a literal.
Speaker 5: Literally it was it's gonna be the nineties, it's gonna
Speaker 5: be the two thousands. But the other thing too, I
Speaker 5: think Jordan's you know, he provided a blueprint. The problem
Speaker 5: was within that that in decoding how he was able
Speaker 5: to gain such success is that players started to take
Speaker 5: on to an extreme level this idea that they wanted
Speaker 5: to be as politically or as a political as possible.
Speaker 5: And because that's I mean, ultimately, what Jordan was able
Speaker 5: to successfully do is he allowed himself to be such
Speaker 5: an every man that you you didn't know how he
Speaker 5: felt about anything, whatever beliefs you thought he had, or
Speaker 5: you maybe project your own beliefs onto him and be like, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm sure he thinks like this, because that's what made
Speaker 5: him quote Ico transcended, That's like people were.
Speaker 2: So surprised when they saw he was listening to Ken
Speaker 2: what that is? That's my that is my uncle, like
Speaker 2: my uncle, my uncle Brod.
Speaker 3: I love my uncle the death like and he was
Speaker 3: like a big musical influence from me.
Speaker 2: And you know he was listening to pe Funk and
Speaker 2: all that stuff. But hip hop just wasn't his thing.
Speaker 3: So it's like certain men like born in the South, Yeah,
Speaker 3: like that just wasn't them.
Speaker 2: I mean, we love him blackness.
Speaker 5: I can tell by the black and white of his
Speaker 5: eyes today that he's black as Hell, I'm just saying,
Speaker 5: you tell.
Speaker 3: Them jeans shout out to ever created what the fuck
Speaker 3: is Michael Jordan wearing?
Speaker 6: But the thing is Jordan was still rock that ship
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 2: That's yes.
Speaker 5: So today today, like he ain't even got to the
Speaker 5: poort where he upgraded to be a time joiner cruise fresh, Like,
Speaker 5: he ain't even there yet.
Speaker 2: You can't tell him ship.
Speaker 4: I'd be throwing off if he wore like a good
Speaker 4: tapered suit, and I'd be throwing off if he had
Speaker 4: something fitted.
Speaker 5: Yeah, despite the fact he has like he should be
Speaker 5: wearing euro cut with the slender Physicah, he should.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I agree that he could have been less a political
Speaker 3: but I also understand the times under which when that
Speaker 3: shit went down, And I also understand for someone like
Speaker 3: him from his generation where he's from, I understood his
Speaker 3: definition of success and revolution and standing up for his
Speaker 3: people looks very different than what it looks like to
Speaker 3: people now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard. It's hardly a Kanye.
Speaker 6: No, No, he's not. He never.
Speaker 5: He always embraced being black, like there was never any
Speaker 5: question he was that he was not this. But the
Speaker 5: problem I think is that I think there's some degree
Speaker 5: his miscalculation, although it has obviously led to him attaining
Speaker 5: unbelievable wealth and being the only black NBA owner in
Speaker 5: the NBA, his miscalculation, and sometimes this is many people
Speaker 5: in his position have done this that are black, is
Speaker 5: that they want to practice capitalism act. And I'm not
Speaker 5: sure if those two things were meant to be in
Speaker 5: the same sentence.
Speaker 6: As I said, charity does not.
Speaker 5: Fix structural inequality or institutional racism. It doesn't because you're
Speaker 5: dependent on charity to fix structural issues that were not
Speaker 5: created by the people giving this charity. Like, as great
Speaker 5: as it is that Lebron has started his own school
Speaker 5: and he is changing lives, it can't do anything to
Speaker 5: fix Ultimately, what's the real problem in acron is underfunded
Speaker 5: historically underfunded children, Black children in particular. You know, as
Speaker 5: great as it is that him for it, but this
Speaker 5: idea that I think in our community, and this is
Speaker 5: why I encourage us to not to be really very
Speaker 5: informed about how politics works, because I hear a lot
Speaker 5: of us saying like, I don't really, I don't, I
Speaker 5: don't do politics. No, you have to do politics to
Speaker 5: make this work, because the only way the structural inequality
Speaker 5: is gonna fixed is through politics because Lebron can't start
Speaker 5: one hundred schools to fix education in America.
Speaker 6: He can't.
Speaker 5: That can only come from policy. So we have to
Speaker 5: be involved on that level and understand that a lot
Speaker 5: of us give back to the community, a lot of
Speaker 5: us come back and try to buy buildings and bly
Speaker 5: to block it's still not fixing gentrification and red light
Speaker 5: It's still not fixing that.
Speaker 2: So we have to.
Speaker 5: It's a right start, but to start somewhere fix all
Speaker 5: this ship No, But that's why you can't have one
Speaker 5: without the other. Like we can't continue to to disengage
Speaker 5: ourselves from the political process because you.
Speaker 6: Know, we we we.
Speaker 5: Think it's too hard or we don't want to fight
Speaker 5: that that fight. But it's like, no, the best thing
Speaker 5: that we could see happen is like we were talking
Speaker 5: earlier about Corey Bush, who you know is soon to
Speaker 5: be it looks like for sure she'll be Representative District
Speaker 5: one in in Missouri in St.
Speaker 6: Louis.
Speaker 5: This is a woman who started who was a Ferguson
Speaker 5: activist when Michael Brown was killed, and for her to
Speaker 5: go from that to get to being a representative in
Speaker 5: Congress is huge. That's how you fix structural inequality because
Speaker 5: you have somebody there who understands the issues on the ground,
Speaker 5: somebody who is a single mother, homeless, domestic assault survivor,
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, domestic violence survivor, sexual assault survivor, somebody who
Speaker 5: understands at a basic level what it's like not to
Speaker 5: have and has and is in a position now to
Speaker 5: sit on committees, impact policy, change neighborhood.
Speaker 6: You gotta that's what you gotta have.
Speaker 5: Like, it's like, you gotta have that because if you don't,
Speaker 5: it's like the charitable stuff will come will be depending
Speaker 5: on somebody in our community attaining generational wealth, which is
Speaker 5: not easy to do to.
Speaker 2: Fix some shit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a crapshoot.
Speaker 5: So it's like we gotta like even you don't even
Speaker 5: have to become a rep. If you just sit on
Speaker 5: a school board, you be shocked. You can change yo,
Speaker 5: go to a PA, run your PTA. See what happened,
Speaker 5: start ap PTA.
Speaker 3: We're going through this shit right now with all the
Speaker 3: schools you know where everything going on, virtual going online,
Speaker 3: and nah, we're going through it.
Speaker 2: This shit is insane. This is insane.
Speaker 5: Now more than ever is the time where we need
Speaker 5: to retake a lot of our local political structures because they're.
Speaker 6: There to be had.
Speaker 5: You know, if somebody asked me, what's how would you
Speaker 5: how would you summarize twenty twenty and I said I
Speaker 5: would summarize it. My only takeaway or the biggest takeaway
Speaker 5: we need to think about for twenty twenty is district
Speaker 5: attorneys are elected positions.
Speaker 6: That's what we need to take away from this.
Speaker 5: Understand, most DA's run unopposed, most of them do, and
Speaker 5: so most of us do not vote in local elections.
Speaker 5: And that is how because we have who the president
Speaker 5: is is powerful, not saying that, but who your mayory.
Speaker 2: Is, who's on the police, your judges, all.
Speaker 5: That judges like you gotta vote in those elections because
Speaker 5: you can really change your city, Like just by voting,
Speaker 5: you could truly change it. You could get in the
Speaker 5: people who understand systemic racism and criminal justice reform, who
Speaker 5: understand because das have so much influence about what cases
Speaker 5: to prosecute. If you have a DA that is not
Speaker 5: holding the police accountable, vote them out, vote them out.
Speaker 5: You could put somebody on the ballot who will carry
Speaker 5: justice the way it deserves to be carried.
Speaker 6: In our communities.
Speaker 5: And that's why I said, like, we got to stop
Speaker 5: this conversation about feeling like it's a badge of honor
Speaker 5: to not be politically engaged. We can't afford to do that.
Speaker 5: We will fail our communities and act like just because
Speaker 5: you don't like both the candidate is one hundred percent
Speaker 5: that you just I don't like them.
Speaker 6: You know how you change that?
Speaker 7: It's like you change that.
Speaker 5: But being involved from the start, like what we have
Speaker 5: right now, that's on the ticket, however you feel about
Speaker 5: it didn't have to be that way. We have plenty
Speaker 5: of opportunities to make sure there was different people on
Speaker 5: the ticket.
Speaker 7: It didn't right primary exactly.
Speaker 5: Hey, as long as our young people and if they
Speaker 5: as long as they continue to not vote, you keep.
Speaker 6: Doing what you're doing. You're gonna keep getting what you're getting,
Speaker 6: all right.
Speaker 4: We are quasi noted for being a music podcast. We're
Speaker 4: all things to all podcasts.
Speaker 6: I will podcast matter, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: Well no, we're not all.
Speaker 4: So I will ask you, uh, and you cannot include
Speaker 4: any greatest sets or box sets compilations.
Speaker 6: Okay, that's important distinction.
Speaker 1: You're right, we're in the second wave of quarantining for
Speaker 1: two years straight.
Speaker 4: What five physical albums are you allowed to listen to
Speaker 4: for that duration.
Speaker 1: Of two years?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 1: Records.
Speaker 5: So because I ask people this all the time, I've
Speaker 5: always prepared for this answer for the most part, and
Speaker 5: because I prefer to ask people, I call it the
Speaker 5: Desert Island question. I prefer to ask him that as
Speaker 5: opposed to like five mcs, like you got to go
Speaker 5: with the things that mean something to you.
Speaker 2: So for I used to.
Speaker 4: Do on this show gun to the Head, but they
Speaker 4: said it's too violent. So without gun to the head,
Speaker 4: I'll just say quarantine.
Speaker 5: Quarantine five five albums Songs in the Key of Life, okay,
Speaker 5: h for sure, Ready to.
Speaker 6: Die, Biggie.
Speaker 1: Number four Okay, yep.
Speaker 5: I'm also I mean because I'm gonna make sure I
Speaker 5: get this album Mary Jay is.
Speaker 1: My Life, Okay, number three, I'm.
Speaker 6: Gonna take the roots. Do you want more?
Speaker 5: And I'm not I'm not to say that just because,
Speaker 5: like you know, I think about like literally like life
Speaker 5: changing album.
Speaker 7: Just go ahead, finish your.
Speaker 5: List, and I think I'm gonna take because I want
Speaker 5: to say and I'm not. I'm just trying to think,
Speaker 5: you know what, No Anita Baker Compositions.
Speaker 2: Oh you go, compositions, okay, dress, that's my love.
Speaker 5: Compositions, Compositions. I've gotten the many argument about Compositions being
Speaker 5: her best album. That's no shade any of her work.
Speaker 5: But I'm telling you Compositions is flawless.
Speaker 2: Top now that run, that rapture, giving you the best
Speaker 2: that I got in Compositions that.
Speaker 4: If she would let her catalog extreme, I could actually
Speaker 4: wait in opinion, Wow, I.
Speaker 7: Never even checked for It's.
Speaker 1: Only on title you could be.
Speaker 4: You can barely find the angel anywhere else, Like there
Speaker 4: is no meet I need a Baker on Spotify or that's.
Speaker 7: Why you got Laylan and got her in the.
Speaker 1: Clinch, her and Her and d.
Speaker 2: Her cover of Analiah. Yeah, her cover of records.
Speaker 5: You can only get a none but the number unfortunately,
Speaker 5: but you black was it one in a billion?
Speaker 2: Because that's a million? No, this is nothing.
Speaker 3: All the black Ground ships are like Tank first two albums.
Speaker 3: I think, yep, all that ship on Blackground is Nothing's.
Speaker 5: His name Barry Hankerson, right, he holding all that ship hostage,
Speaker 5: Uncle Barry, especially a Leada ship like you just I'm
Speaker 5: so I'm glad I had her CDs like I have
Speaker 5: a needed ship because I got all.
Speaker 7: Ships away because I thought.
Speaker 2: Get them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well I have the CDs, but I also put
Speaker 5: them on a on a hard drive, so I had
Speaker 5: the hard drive with I was like, oh no, I
Speaker 5: love that.
Speaker 2: So you're sorry, choices you have very Yeah, I'm surprised.
Speaker 2: Ain't Mic make it in that No, MJ I thought.
Speaker 2: I thought.
Speaker 5: I thought about it as well because I was struggling
Speaker 5: between his first album, because I still you know, I think, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, Off the Wall is better than Thriller. I think, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I think I struggle with with picking a Michael Jackson
Speaker 5: album or a Prints album. The problem is with both
Speaker 5: of them they have so much. I mean not that
Speaker 5: Stevie Wonder doesn't, but like to me, songs in the
Speaker 5: Kia Life is like literally a perfect album. So yeah, no,
Speaker 5: I just thought to think about the things that I
Speaker 5: have on like constant repeat, and as much as I
Speaker 5: love those artists, it's like, I mean, I was listening
Speaker 5: to My Life like literally a couple of days ago,
Speaker 5: that Joy from top to bottom.
Speaker 6: It's a banger.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say that, you know, I'm saying it's a
Speaker 4: curious choice. Because I think if actually in that situation,
Speaker 4: I don't listen to not the albums that I like,
Speaker 4: but like, it would be easy to stay off the wall.
Speaker 1: But I think I would get tired of off the
Speaker 1: wall after.
Speaker 6: Ye after a certain amount of spans two.
Speaker 4: Months of that, so I you know, I would actually
Speaker 4: pick like Blood on the.
Speaker 1: No Yo, I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you something I got.
Speaker 4: I got caught in a Michael Jackson rabbit hole, and
Speaker 4: I decided I was going to teach myself to accept
Speaker 4: or like and invincible, Yes, joint that.
Speaker 2: Joints the ones that hit hit on invents Butterfly.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna be in so much trouble when
Speaker 4: we get to the writing Jerkins episode.
Speaker 3: No You, the Jerkins joints wasn't the ones that went
Speaker 3: off on that album, the ones that he it was
Speaker 3: it was Rocked My World. Well, I did like rock
Speaker 3: My World. That was him break it an Butterflies weight.
Speaker 6: Listen. It's like.
Speaker 5: It may not have I mean to think about Michael
Speaker 5: Jackson is like you get so spoiled, Like the fact
Speaker 5: that that people at the time considered bad to be
Speaker 5: a disappointment and that's like.
Speaker 7: Garrett, like see what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: It's like, but his highs were so high that if
Speaker 5: Michael on a on a twelve a twelve song album,
Speaker 5: if only four or five of them joints are bankers,
Speaker 5: You're like, this is a disappointment.
Speaker 2: You're like, what you know? You know?
Speaker 3: I always say, also think it's something too, it has
Speaker 3: to be something racist at work. I always thought it
Speaker 3: was something crazy that the Eagles always got the record for,
Speaker 3: like the.
Speaker 2: Album go Higher and hire this is the greatest hit.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, that's bullshit, Like you.
Speaker 3: Matther fuckers had to compile all y'all best ship on
Speaker 3: one album to have smoke for a nigga that made
Speaker 3: an album of all his that ship.
Speaker 2: Like, get the funk out of here. I didn't make it, y'all.
Speaker 3: Niggas need the greatest his album to funk with the
Speaker 3: nine jams I just did and smashing all y'all ship,
Speaker 3: I don't think should be the more.
Speaker 2: That's the biggest Eagle song.
Speaker 4: California Hotel, California, best of My Love and you kid
Speaker 4: in Town, I said.
Speaker 7: Like Crossing, that's only one I knew that ship.
Speaker 1: That's like the one sure version.
Speaker 2: I know that's a fact.
Speaker 6: Ship, that's a fact.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 1: It was, but you know we did a i'l be
Speaker 1: sure episode was episode.
Speaker 4: But the day that I got private times in the
Speaker 4: whole nine.
Speaker 2: Ship Mannie, that was.
Speaker 3: That was on the sixty Versus album.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 5: And by the way, Chris, uh, what what blood sacrifice
Speaker 5: do I have to make to get you.
Speaker 1: To make it happen? Let's let's make it happen.
Speaker 7: Will make it.
Speaker 5: Happen because deep dive into how you possibly don't like
Speaker 5: Bad Boys too.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go deep dive.
Speaker 5: But by the way, when you when you said the
Speaker 5: Tyler Perry rabbit hole, did you watch Fall from Grace?
Speaker 2: Is that what happened?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 2: Did I watch it?
Speaker 5: But first of all, is okay.
Speaker 4: How I came up was the debate on Bad Boys
Speaker 4: got so bad? Then I was like, well, I might
Speaker 4: as well throw this grenade into the argument. Can you
Speaker 4: guys differentiate what what's the When we determined that Bad
Speaker 4: Boys was a classic.
Speaker 2: Film, that but that wasn't a good movie.
Speaker 1: That wasn't a good movie.
Speaker 8: Then I just wanted some suggestions on what do we
Speaker 8: consider like what til Perry works are that, and I
Speaker 8: think I.
Speaker 2: Want Yeah, I said good deeds, good deeds for me?
Speaker 5: I was like, good deeds was all right? And you
Speaker 5: know what family that praise was.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna say that's Kathy Baits, right, Yep, that's Cathy Baits.
Speaker 2: That was ran together.
Speaker 9: But I'm telling you the Fall from Grace.
Speaker 2: Yea fall Grace was just incoherent.
Speaker 5: It was like, it's the greatest bad ship you've ever seen,
Speaker 5: Like it, Oh my.
Speaker 7: God, it's amazing how you do that?
Speaker 5: But I mean, you got bad wigs, you got you know,
Speaker 5: Tyler Perry he filmed as a tire movie in three hours, like.
Speaker 3: Unbelieve right, just two hours more than it took him
Speaker 3: to write it, like icon and this, You're like, how
Speaker 3: did you get?
Speaker 7: He gets her everything?
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 9: It's so much happening and I mean that I don't
Speaker 9: know if you.
Speaker 5: Agree with this, uhlo, But they plot twas actually went bad.
Speaker 2: It know, the plot was horrible because it was just.
Speaker 7: The only two people in this world.
Speaker 3: I don't want to spoil that, but it was I
Speaker 3: can't say it without spoiling.
Speaker 2: But it was just the end part which bad film.
Speaker 9: That's that's a fair question.
Speaker 2: Even know, and I'm gonna be real.
Speaker 3: Even though I walk into a Tyler Perry movie, I
Speaker 3: know what I'm getting. I'm not expecting, you know what,
Speaker 3: even by Tyler Perry senters.
Speaker 2: So this was just bad.
Speaker 7: It was disrespectful to the craft.
Speaker 9: But you get to watch it.
Speaker 4: Wait where does where does it like compared to uh,
Speaker 4: what's this series?
Speaker 9: Oh, sisters, I've never seen it.
Speaker 2: I heard that I haven't have not. She swears I
Speaker 2: haven't have not.
Speaker 9: I watched one episode. Have y'all watched that oval off
Speaker 9: and ship?
Speaker 7: I can't, Honestly, I can't.
Speaker 5: I've ever seen ever put on television ever, and it's
Speaker 5: not close.
Speaker 9: There's no way that had Notts is as bad as this.
Speaker 7: There's no way.
Speaker 9: I refuse to believe that.
Speaker 5: I was just like what I mean, it's fuckery, it's coterie,
Speaker 5: it's fuckery, it's all of that.
Speaker 7: Like it is. I got through an episode that, yes,
Speaker 7: the old it was.
Speaker 9: I know it's back for another season.
Speaker 7: Y'all saw the think.
Speaker 5: I saw the think about how Tyler period to basically
Speaker 5: feel about sixty two movies during COVID.
Speaker 7: Somehow he got the COVID test, like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he built like he built like housing for
Speaker 3: people like to stay on his like a state and
Speaker 3: ship looking.
Speaker 7: Forward in two years. The stories about this ship.
Speaker 9: That's the Tyler period formula. Is he only paying one
Speaker 9: person per movie?
Speaker 5: Like, it's just it's only he getting one You're only
Speaker 5: paying one person. Okay, shout out to Doragi Hinton because
Speaker 5: he got had some checks.
Speaker 7: But she's gonna be the only what did that movie
Speaker 7: gets paid?
Speaker 2: Shot shouting girl shout?
Speaker 7: I think her and.
Speaker 5: It might have been the only two people who got
Speaker 5: paid to every No way, everybody else had to do
Speaker 5: that for free. That Oh wait, hold up another one, dude,
Speaker 5: did you see acrobody.
Speaker 2: Man achroon it? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I watched it on the plane once and then halfway
Speaker 4: through had to take it off because I didn't want
Speaker 4: the people behind me judging me. You know, like when
Speaker 4: you're watching a really bad film on the plane and
Speaker 4: someone might be behind you judging you.
Speaker 1: That's how I felt about Acrimony.
Speaker 7: I'm still trying to figure out how you got on
Speaker 7: the gat. I'm still trying to figure this out. I'm like,
Speaker 7: did she fly? Like? Oh that okay?
Speaker 3: They have like it's just big plot holes. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 3: this is it's just incoherent.
Speaker 7: It's like the long It's a lot of them, so
Speaker 7: I'm just okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the n Alon one, Yeah, that was going on affair,
Speaker 3: fatal affair.
Speaker 9: Wait, that was that one?
Speaker 2: Yes, that was what that was. But it's in the
Speaker 2: same it's in the same neighborhood.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And if you actually look at Fatal Affair as a
Speaker 3: sequel to Juice, it is tracked like but if you
Speaker 3: look at.
Speaker 1: The Juice, it wasn't.
Speaker 7: It wasn't.
Speaker 5: It wasn't.
Speaker 4: It wasn't, but he is.
Speaker 3: You look at it as a you with me with
Speaker 3: you with me with the vision.
Speaker 5: No, you gotta watch it like it's it's we In college,
Speaker 5: we used to have bad black movie nights, so we
Speaker 5: saw all the master piece movies like because I.
Speaker 3: Want something about it the other night after the again,
Speaker 3: because we had it on tape, like me and my
Speaker 3: boy we had it. We had the vhs, like in
Speaker 3: the dorm watching that ship. Now twenty plus years later.
Speaker 3: Oh man, it's a fucking masterpiece.
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, that's a masterpiece of the Bad Boys.
Speaker 3: Ain't exactly and I stand on it right, but.
Speaker 2: It is on.
Speaker 1: The you know what's weird? All right?
Speaker 4: So I have these conversations with and she swears up
Speaker 4: and down that Black Night with Martin Lawrence is a masterpiece.
Speaker 2: She lion, I gotta hear, we gotta get him on
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: She got it.
Speaker 7: She got to stand on that.
Speaker 1: She even talk to me unless I watch it completely.
Speaker 7: Have you watched it?
Speaker 2: A look on his face like fadal Affair, y'all gotta
Speaker 2: watch fal Affair that moving night.
Speaker 1: She don't.
Speaker 2: She don't fuck with the better.
Speaker 1: She dude, she no mans, She'll kill me.
Speaker 7: Damn.
Speaker 1: I can't bring no bulls into the table. What I
Speaker 1: can't bring any bullshit to.
Speaker 5: The table, not fun bullshit, Like that's like fedal Fairs
Speaker 5: is fun bullshit.
Speaker 1: Yeah she can, like if it's not bettering in her life.
Speaker 8: She's like, oh man, yeah, I can't.
Speaker 7: That's what you know that.
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Speaker 3: ever want to know the I mean, you want to
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Speaker 7: What exact remember and Cuckoo Cow? Why does sound faigiar
Speaker 7: to me?
Speaker 3: Because he had that once on my projects? In my project,
Speaker 3: he has a documentary narrated.
Speaker 5: By Cuckoo Caw and he hit his own narration, I'm in,
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Speaker 1: Cow Yo. I'm stopping this episode right now. It's like
Speaker 1: a watch it. Yes, Jamiel, we thank you very much
Speaker 1: for you on this episode. We're gonna watch Cuckoo Cow
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 4: When we have a fun a little sugar Steve unpaid bill. Yeah, Jamil,
Speaker 4: We thank you so much for being on the show.
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