Speaker 1: Quess Love Supreme is a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: Ladies and Gentlemen, Welcome to another addition Brand Imperial. Another wait,
Speaker 1: I don't feel too encourage when you guys are sneakering
Speaker 1: behind my back. You know that's that's words rappers say,
Speaker 1: you know the professors. No, Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to
Speaker 1: another episode of Coesse Love Supreme. My name is Coess Love.
Speaker 1: We have Team Supreme with us uh snicker and laya.
Speaker 1: You know that makes me sound like the person that
Speaker 1: leads our world with his weak ass uh him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know exactly. I'm doing good contrary to the world.
Speaker 1: I'm doing No, actually, no, I'm doing I'm doing good.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good about about life and whatnot. That's cool.
Speaker 1: I'm talking to you also, yes, I know this is
Speaker 1: this is the highlight of you know, I I look
Speaker 1: forward to these conversations with my friends. Never now, Sugar Steve,
Speaker 1: how you doing, Hey, quests, Hey, Team Supreme? Are you Steve?
Speaker 1: I'm feeling real good right now. You know, it's been
Speaker 1: a long time since we asked you about your sugar network.
Speaker 1: What's what's the HAPs of the Sugar networks? Since funny
Speaker 1: you should ask. We just ended season three and began
Speaker 1: season We just started season four, which is the Blueberrious Network, Blueberries.
Speaker 1: You're gonna pretend after three years you don't know how
Speaker 1: the Sugar Network works, Like, I'm sorry, Yes, everybody gets
Speaker 1: a season. I'm sorry, yes, season we're on season four,
Speaker 1: but we've only been around for like two and a
Speaker 1: half years. But we're already on season four and the
Speaker 1: new founder is Blueberrius, so you can find him at Blueberrius.
Speaker 1: It's the Blueberrious Network for season four. Thank you for
Speaker 1: you're still the executive producer, right, Yeah, I'm the original
Speaker 1: founder Sugar Steve. It's yeah, it's named after I've seen
Speaker 1: that and take I'm good, brother, I'm good downth Cacollact.
Speaker 1: It's cool man. Um. I think the governor said that
Speaker 1: they're about to do um a phase what they call
Speaker 1: a phase two point five or something, so like now
Speaker 1: they're starting to open some gems, so like gyms can
Speaker 1: open it like thirty percent capacity. Um, I think restaurants
Speaker 1: can open it like something crazy. My asses to in
Speaker 1: the house, so this ship needs nothing to me, but
Speaker 1: but the gems out here doing the little outside things,
Speaker 1: like they're going into the parking lot too. Yes, some
Speaker 1: of them, yeah, yeah, some of them were. They were
Speaker 1: actually actually my gym for a minute. They were kind
Speaker 1: of doing it outside, but I don't know, I think
Speaker 1: it kind of fell off. But I don't know. Just
Speaker 1: being around a bunch of people just breathing hard and
Speaker 1: sweating like that not seem like a good life planing.
Speaker 1: So um, yes, I've just been sticking to my old
Speaker 1: man walks in the evening and uh old man walks. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: just I hit my walk. Brother, Still getting your tenth
Speaker 1: That's that's what's up, man, Yeah, I'm morning. Still are
Speaker 1: you still every morning? Six o'clock? Rick Ruben put me
Speaker 1: up to the task, and I'm still doing it ten
Speaker 1: thousand a day. That's great, man. That's I'm trying to
Speaker 1: unleash my inner strict Uh grown a bug, and I'm
Speaker 1: actually gonna get on the plane. Really did you coming
Speaker 1: back to your people? See your mom my mom is
Speaker 1: turning seventy, and I'm like, ain't missed that? So I'm man,
Speaker 1: s I actually flew from l A. She she did
Speaker 1: that flaight, She flew from l A to d C.
Speaker 1: And she said it was actually it ain't it ain't
Speaker 1: that bad like it was. No, it's all good. I'm
Speaker 1: make sure I eat everything I need to eat for
Speaker 1: I get on the plane, don't drink nothing. And you know,
Speaker 1: and if I do, I got mclarx whites. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have my gloves, I'm gonna have my mask, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have my shield, and I'm gone. No, I'm probably do do.
Speaker 1: My Mama's my Mama's Career United, the one that has
Speaker 1: you know, housed and fed me for four day something years.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Yeah, I forgot. I forgot that. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that this particular
Speaker 1: episode of course Left Supreme is being brought to you
Speaker 1: by Mazda. Um. I gotta say shout out to Mazda
Speaker 1: for letting me test drive their c X thirty. I
Speaker 1: gotta say it's my first grown man car that I
Speaker 1: personally enjoyed myself. Well, that's like one of those cuvs, right,
Speaker 1: like they got they had SUVs, but now they got
Speaker 1: the crossover. The crossover kind of that. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: like when I get in it, like my driving experience
Speaker 1: doesn't warrant a turnaround, Like what's that I've never for
Speaker 1: cars that I drive, you know what I'm saying. Most
Speaker 1: cars that I drive are Yeah, it's really like the playhoufs.
Speaker 1: But I gotta say this, this is kind of official.
Speaker 1: I enjoy driving it and good luck and trying to
Speaker 1: get this card back from me. App It's comfortable and plus,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm on I'm on the farm, driving two
Speaker 1: hours every day to the city, and you know, this
Speaker 1: is where I listened to all my favorite podcasts and
Speaker 1: my audio books and my meditation and stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 1: this this came right in time. I appreciate on Spotify
Speaker 1: and I saw you listening to, like some some meditation something.
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell is this the Mirrort
Speaker 1: playing I was listening to. I forgot that Spotify actually
Speaker 1: snitches on what I listened to right now, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: follow me, You don't, don't see mean this is nothing
Speaker 1: but the brand album for them. Ever forgot the world
Speaker 1: can see what I'm listening to because all I'm listening
Speaker 1: to is the meditation and stuff. Yeah, but it'll be
Speaker 1: the time too, so it'll be it's not you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, it'll be like damn two o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: It'd be late and so I see, I'll say that
Speaker 1: from midnight till like eleven in the morning, that's my
Speaker 1: meditation hours. So you gotta get to the change this
Speaker 1: picture though they got your Philadelphia Experiment picture. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what that person is. Yeah, not not you
Speaker 1: follow my see people follow always look for quest love.
Speaker 1: Now you gotta follow my my my, Oh your government
Speaker 1: government name? Shoot? All right, Neil kay Thompson, it's right there.
Speaker 1: You are so right. Yeah, I mean I don't think
Speaker 1: people know this, because that's why your listeners are different.
Speaker 1: You got no yeah, like only only for certain people now, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's on the Cuban link nigas because exactly only for
Speaker 1: certain for certain nis. That's exactly why I did that, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's good to hear that you're you're facing your fears.
Speaker 1: I too, am going to get on the plane tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Ain't you been getting on the plane. Don't play me
Speaker 1: play loto. No, I've not been on the plane since
Speaker 1: so you drove because you'all drove to I've been driving
Speaker 1: to Ohio since that time period. I have questions about
Speaker 1: what y'all doing up there. Y'all doing something productive out there?
Speaker 1: I am you mean, what do you want to know?
Speaker 1: Not just you. I was just curious. I didn't know
Speaker 1: how I had to ask that. I see all the
Speaker 1: pictures posted, and I see you know, all the social celebrities,
Speaker 1: and I'm just wondering, since we know we're in an
Speaker 1: entrance the state of the world, are y'all like actually
Speaker 1: talking about things that could help, you know, since you
Speaker 1: all the powerful individuals. Well, I mean it's not G thirteen,
Speaker 1: but I will say that a good four to five
Speaker 1: hours is pretty much. Um. I don't know when these
Speaker 1: episodes are coming to be or I don't know if
Speaker 1: it belongs to quality or Dave owns the content, but dude, um,
Speaker 1: it's about Yeah, it's at this rate I think he
Speaker 1: has I know, Lie, I think there's about forty hours
Speaker 1: of content. Yo, Nicol, we're releasing Dave Chappelle. It was
Speaker 1: so that No, I'm just saying, oh man, I'm just saying, well,
Speaker 1: it's not that's the thing. I don't think Dave has
Speaker 1: a platform. But this is going to go somewhere someday.
Speaker 1: But um, the last time I did it, last time,
Speaker 1: it was really good episode like most like basically each
Speaker 1: episode is most quality Dave, like they're the anchors, those
Speaker 1: three of the anchors, and then me, um and whatever,
Speaker 1: comedian Kevin Hart, Uh sometimes uh Kevin Hart, Bill Bird
Speaker 1: was last time before that was Jon ham Common, Tiffany
Speaker 1: Hattish and uh, you know, but I will say that, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's not just uh what I won't say. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's not just us. I don't want to say fluffing. No,
Speaker 1: it's it's not um it's us, Yeah, it's not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's actually us holding people's feet to the fire. Like
Speaker 1: everything that including an hour about you know, quality situation
Speaker 1: would be with social media and all that stuff like
Speaker 1: she got real. So I don't know when or where
Speaker 1: it's coming or how it's coming or whatever, but I mean, um,
Speaker 1: I mean besides that, um Dave. Actually he's taken over
Speaker 1: his town. I gotta commend him, like he has the
Speaker 1: resources and the governor's blessing too. You know, Ohio is
Speaker 1: very Important's another and you know there's another is that
Speaker 1: I was asking, especially in the election. Very important. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's yeah, he's you know, he has medical people
Speaker 1: don't standby. He's testing, testing his audience, testing his guests.
Speaker 1: And then once you do that. I mean you just yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's rather incredible. Well that is nice for me
Speaker 1: to go back a third time. But I also do
Speaker 1: hope that you'll figure out some other things to do,
Speaker 1: like some things like similar to what Lebron is doing.
Speaker 1: I know everybody doesn't have Lebron money, but on some
Speaker 1: levels of opening up stadiums and figuring out how we're
Speaker 1: going to get people out to vote and whatnot, comfortable
Speaker 1: places and say spaces, anything that could help the cause.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying outside of just some good conversation,
Speaker 1: but I appreciate the conversation as well. Well. All I
Speaker 1: can do online and is raise money. So I tell
Speaker 1: you, you you tell them and then you know, working out.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I'm certain that that's on his mind. I
Speaker 1: mean that that's been discussed. I don't know what his
Speaker 1: direct plans are for November, but yeah, right now, I'm
Speaker 1: a member of team. When we all vote, we're registering
Speaker 1: about thirty seven thousand people every night. Um yeah, just
Speaker 1: trying to we can win as long as our heads
Speaker 1: to the sky. This whole renewed sense of optimism is
Speaker 1: what I feel. Yes, No, I do have optimism. What
Speaker 1: I'm what I'm more worried about. Um. I mean, I'd
Speaker 1: be lying if I didn't say that I was. I
Speaker 1: wasn't worried about the transition period like November. Actually I'm
Speaker 1: actually getting out from November January win or lose, Like
Speaker 1: you know he wins, Yeah, November to January's help for
Speaker 1: the next four years as hell, Um, but lose you know,
Speaker 1: who knows what that transition will be like for those
Speaker 1: three months, Um borderline hoping that he I predict that
Speaker 1: he's going to. I realized you can lose the presidency
Speaker 1: if you remove the goal posts of the election day.
Speaker 1: So if he moves the election day, then instantly um
Speaker 1: Pelosi becomes president. And so I think in his head
Speaker 1: it's like I'd rather be removed than lose, right, So
Speaker 1: that's gonna be another that's another theory. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's saying that he yeah, he'll plan it as the
Speaker 1: Democrats forced me out. D da da da da, like,
Speaker 1: so that's what I'm hoping for. But you know, of
Speaker 1: course that they followed the law, but they've been low
Speaker 1: of the time, so yet why not. Yeah, y'all getting it,
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying I ain't getting the mailers like
Speaker 1: I used to exactly I got I actually got my
Speaker 1: meal today. My mail has been running pretty smooth. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, this is nuts. So let's get to our episode. Uh,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Today our Steam guests is a is
Speaker 1: a G. That's right. He's a multi Grammy Award winning
Speaker 1: and Emmy Award winning not I'm sorry, not ghetto, but
Speaker 1: your your g have a soul Trend award that going
Speaker 1: there somewhere that doesn't count SOUTRA award. I have a
Speaker 1: social award. I'm jealous yo, from the last and that
Speaker 1: was still alive when I got it. I got a
Speaker 1: real one. You mayor that intro lad Robert, Yes, I
Speaker 1: love it. Whatever got on? Brot one man, I got
Speaker 1: a one month old of a girl nothing you know quarantine? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that do the math. That's a coming season. Wow one
Speaker 1: old man. Congratulations bro bro, thank you man. What's up? Steve? Congratulations? Right?
Speaker 1: How you doing? I'm good? Kick and play and play. Wait,
Speaker 1: let me alight. Let's let our listeners know for those
Speaker 1: who don't know, because it will be a bunch of
Speaker 1: inside jokes and you know, so literally. Yeah, our our
Speaker 1: guest today is uh, He's literally worked with the best
Speaker 1: of them, name him uh Tip Uh, Cello, Stella, I do, Jill, Scott, Jez.
Speaker 1: Have we worked work together? My fault? We did, y'all did,
Speaker 1: y'all did? Hey and way way to circle back speaking.
Speaker 1: Our our theme today is having renewed sense of optimism,
Speaker 1: and our guests actually covered sounds of slackness immortal classic
Speaker 1: optimistic with Brandy right now, Yes with Brandy and August
Speaker 1: Green featuring Common and Kareem riggans Um and probably one
Speaker 1: of the craziest, funniest people I know. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: welcome Robert finally, but can we just for the people
Speaker 1: that's listening, we should tell them the only reason it's
Speaker 1: taking as long as because Amir always wanted to be
Speaker 1: in the studio, in a really banging as studio with Robin,
Speaker 1: and that we haven't made this happen because lady somewhere
Speaker 1: exactly when we thought we had like hopes and dreams
Speaker 1: of like jam sessions and whatnot. Yeah, I kept looking,
Speaker 1: I kept looking at my resume, like God, damn it,
Speaker 1: am I good enough to be friends? I don't show
Speaker 1: Robert wait time out? Okay, So I just I pulled
Speaker 1: up your Wikipedia page. Have you seen your Wikipedia page lately?
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. What's with this photo? The photo
Speaker 1: that they got for you, is it with the dress?
Speaker 1: It's like his Sears Roebuck catalog pose. It's the Ray
Speaker 1: Kuan you know when Ray Kwan puts the temple is
Speaker 1: uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not proud of that.
Speaker 1: I'm not proud of I think we all have one
Speaker 1: of those poles that picture with that pose, because when
Speaker 1: you're deep, that's exact what you do. Right. I was
Speaker 1: doing my time where I was really fighting against taking
Speaker 1: photos at the piano because every time it's like photos
Speaker 1: at the piano. I was like, that's corny. I want
Speaker 1: to be away for the piano. And that was during
Speaker 1: the time where I was like no, I wanted to
Speaker 1: do other stuff and I didn't know what to do,
Speaker 1: and it was weird. This is this what I was like,
Speaker 1: This is that one photographers suggested the piano to you
Speaker 1: is like photographers telling the routes, we gotta go out
Speaker 1: to the forest to take photos. I have an idea
Speaker 1: to go up to the forest or put shackles on
Speaker 1: your feet one of the two roots exactly next to
Speaker 1: Alex Haley. Where are you right now, Robert? I'm in
Speaker 1: l A. I'm at the l A Spot of us.
Speaker 1: Now you live out in l A right now? Yep? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well I've always had an l A Spot in New
Speaker 1: York spot. But now I'm just here in l A
Speaker 1: for a long period of time, So I'm pretty much
Speaker 1: I'm pretty much here. I think I'm gonna call this home.
Speaker 1: How long have you lived out there? I had this
Speaker 1: place here for about four years, but I've never really
Speaker 1: spent you know, you just come in for a week
Speaker 1: here and you know, but now I'm like staying here,
Speaker 1: you know. So See, I always thought I always thought
Speaker 1: there was a stigma. Well, you know, you are a
Speaker 1: serious musician, and I always thought that l A had
Speaker 1: a a stigma um on serious musicians. Like there's always
Speaker 1: been this this this cloud of sort of pretentiousness with
Speaker 1: with l A session musicians and l A jazz musicians,
Speaker 1: at least in the sixties, seventies, eighties, and nineties. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's still has held over or not,
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean, I don't when I'm out here,
Speaker 1: I'm not being a musician. Okay, when I'm out here,
Speaker 1: I'm producing, I'm being a film film I'm scoring films,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I always say, New
Speaker 1: York is where you learn how to play, and then
Speaker 1: l A is where you make money. So that's why
Speaker 1: I got here. You know, I'm actually long overdue being
Speaker 1: here in l A. Really, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I should have been here ten years ago. Yeah, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: just for the opportunities of what I want to do,
Speaker 1: because I'm not trying to be the best jazz piano
Speaker 1: player in the world anymore. That's what I've moved to
Speaker 1: New York to do. And as the high school, I said,
Speaker 1: I'm going to New York, I'm gonna be the best
Speaker 1: jazz piano player. And it was all about that, all
Speaker 1: about bigging musician years who were there already. I'm over that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to work I want to work out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But that's why it's supposed to be though, That's how
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be. I had like an og
Speaker 1: tell me, like, you know, the first part of your
Speaker 1: career it's about becoming the best, right, But then after
Speaker 1: a while, it's like Nick, I gotta put myself in
Speaker 1: a position to make the most money boom as a fan.
Speaker 1: Does that mean that you've done everything you want to
Speaker 1: do musically? Like are your music goals or or oh no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no. I put myself in a position where
Speaker 1: I can always go back and do that. You know,
Speaker 1: I can always make records. I don't have to do
Speaker 1: the New York grind anymore. I have to be in
Speaker 1: New York and be play the clubs and play the gigs,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I can go to New
Speaker 1: York and play my show when I want to play
Speaker 1: my shows and stuff like that while I'm out here
Speaker 1: also doing film scores and and all that that stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, that's why you strategize and did those those
Speaker 1: that you had a whole residency in New York right
Speaker 1: before you left, right that that worked? Yeah, it worked out.
Speaker 1: So that's all I gotta do. Every year. I go
Speaker 1: to New York and stay one month and do all
Speaker 1: my shows New York, all your shows, your quara, get
Speaker 1: your quarter done, and then I'm out. I'm out. I've
Speaker 1: seen my son, My son's in New York, so I
Speaker 1: go there. I get You know, the only reason I
Speaker 1: just keep my New York spot is so I can
Speaker 1: go back and see my son all the time, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But you know, other than that,
Speaker 1: it's it's by by New York. We have as had
Speaker 1: a chance. Has your son had a chance to meet
Speaker 1: his sister yet? Yeah? She's one month out now yet
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's just whatever, that's it. You know, your
Speaker 1: son of hilarious, how dangerous as a musician? Now yo, Now, dude,
Speaker 1: Now he there's not a deal of joint he doesn't know.
Speaker 1: And he there's not a deal of joint that he
Speaker 1: doesn't know how it's made. Like he's producing beats. Him
Speaker 1: and Kareem Riggins Sundries are making the EP together, glasper
Speaker 1: Reem glasper Riggins Like yeah, because he first of all,
Speaker 1: Kareem Son is crazy with the have you heard his beats?
Speaker 1: He's like maybe thirteen first of all is gonna kill
Speaker 1: me yore first of all drums, he's crazy. Like I
Speaker 1: hired him right now for a hip hop get not
Speaker 1: even joking. We jammed, and we jammed a few times
Speaker 1: here in l A. But then his beach are his beat?
Speaker 1: Your stupid? So him and Riley open my son right.
Speaker 1: They always played Fortnite. They're always on the playing Fortnite
Speaker 1: ship and then they started making beats and going back
Speaker 1: and forth with the beats and ship. So now they
Speaker 1: make and yeah, they're about Yeah, he's literally that's what
Speaker 1: he's on now, that's literally what he's on. Now, these
Speaker 1: kids with Swiss Beats Son and oh my god, Jill
Speaker 1: scott her Son making beats too. Yeah, now they have
Speaker 1: access to the tools that we didn't like. I mean
Speaker 1: the technology is so I mean, you can make beats
Speaker 1: on your damn phone, now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But Riley was like hed me yesterday that that can
Speaker 1: you give me an NPC one. I was like, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know that you working on right now? Uh
Speaker 1: you just released the project with uh ninth correct? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so an album called We Get an album called Dinner Party.
Speaker 1: Um yeah me Terre Smart and MASSI and Knife and
Speaker 1: uh yeah, sox Felix Felix and Dope Felix is really dope.
Speaker 1: This beats a dough too. He make Dope Beach too.
Speaker 1: Made tracks, Ok, yeah, stupid tracks. Yeah, I need to
Speaker 1: making tracks. Everybody making tracks. Everybody makes tracks. I know
Speaker 1: I've never been a track. I've never been I've never
Speaker 1: wanted to make tracks. I gotta make some beach right exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like I know all the dopeest musicians. This is
Speaker 1: getting the room and make the dope ship. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm always like that, like pluck that. But yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta make tracks. But but yeah, So we just did
Speaker 1: Dinner Party right now. We're just we're just finishing up
Speaker 1: Dinner Party kind of remix, kind of situation where we
Speaker 1: took all the songs where we put guests on them. Um,
Speaker 1: so we got Corday and Snoop and a few other
Speaker 1: artists allow on there and a few other artists on
Speaker 1: those actual songs. Tank from taking the Bengas. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's dope. I love her. Man she's done. Uh so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I finish it up that that should be done in
Speaker 1: a few days actually, and then, um, I'm still in
Speaker 1: the middle of working on Black Radio three as well.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, So wait all right, can't we just
Speaker 1: real quick? Don't you don't know I'm working on Black
Speaker 1: Radio three. No, no, no, no, you don't know. Listen.
Speaker 1: I know, I just forgot. I just forgot it was group.
Speaker 1: So I forgot that was coming. That means that Radio
Speaker 1: three you're supposed to be I was supposed to be.
Speaker 1: I maybe like, here's the thing I'm not playing. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you, let me first what it happened. Was happened.
Speaker 1: Hey man, you can't put me on BLANSK but you
Speaker 1: don't want to say myself, So let me set the straight. Look,
Speaker 1: we in a goddamn pandemic. I don't feel like doing shit.
Speaker 1: I have to learn to let me look who, I'm
Speaker 1: in a space where I have to learn. The first
Speaker 1: like three or four months of this ship was just
Speaker 1: like what the fuck right? So I had to learn
Speaker 1: how to create in this space. I knew how to
Speaker 1: create in the old world when we was out tourn
Speaker 1: and moving around and bumping in each other and all
Speaker 1: that ship. I know how to feel that creative tank.
Speaker 1: I had to learn how to feel that creative tank
Speaker 1: in the space where we can't go no fuckingwhere. So
Speaker 1: now I'm waking up again. I'm kind of finding it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm kind of finding my
Speaker 1: voice again. So now to everyone, to Robert Glass and everyone, now, yes,
Speaker 1: there's a big possibility I would probably be on black
Speaker 1: Radio now because I know how to create. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of finding my voice now. But at the time when
Speaker 1: you leached out to me. He was like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I got this joint send it. I'm like, Nick, I
Speaker 1: just watched my aunt that on zoom Nigga Like what yeah, literally,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I had to log into an app to
Speaker 1: watch the funeral right now, like fatime, Yeah, yeah, might
Speaker 1: be there. What's up? Okay, this might be my old age,
Speaker 1: but I'm under the impression that you actually invented or
Speaker 1: pioneered d I wideness when it comes to know you
Speaker 1: have an Apple on your phone that you do the
Speaker 1: vocals on, then you'd just be sending it to motherfucker's
Speaker 1: well yeah, I mean when me and Nick did for
Speaker 1: in exchange, Yeah, that was kind of the first, you know,
Speaker 1: in terms of I mean it was us doing it,
Speaker 1: and then I think before that it was the postal
Speaker 1: service with your boy from death Cab, but they were
Speaker 1: actually sending it through the mail. We were sending it
Speaker 1: just through I Am. But even within I mean, that
Speaker 1: was still at the time where you know, the world
Speaker 1: was open, like we were going out, I was going
Speaker 1: to doing shows and whatever. So the thing about now
Speaker 1: is just creating in this part where I think people
Speaker 1: are having most of the artists, my homies I talked
Speaker 1: to the thing that the kind of prevalent feeling is
Speaker 1: that we're still being held accountable or we're still being
Speaker 1: held we're still accountable for the same we're still under
Speaker 1: the same pressure, but we no longer have those things
Speaker 1: we were able to do to release that pressure. So
Speaker 1: it's like your mothercker still won't meet to day and
Speaker 1: rapidy rap rapidly saying and do all this ship, But
Speaker 1: I can't go to the gym, right, Where's where's the release?
Speaker 1: Like I can't I can't go to the gym, I
Speaker 1: can't go to the movies. You know what I'm saying, Like, well,
Speaker 1: I apologize and I appreciate you for having this moment
Speaker 1: because there's so many people that feeling the same way.
Speaker 1: You right, you're right, you yeah, but I'm coming. But
Speaker 1: you know now, like I'm figuring out like I got
Speaker 1: I'm me and Poob been working on ship like I
Speaker 1: got ship coming, so so now I mean I'm waking
Speaker 1: up now like now I figured out so so now
Speaker 1: blast for like with joints like us being black ready
Speaker 1: to three Yet that more than like will happened because
Speaker 1: it's always and I have a studio to Robert I
Speaker 1: there too. I don't gonna hit you, but I had
Speaker 1: a whole idea I want we'll figure that out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll do it. If if Fante doesn't do it, I'll
Speaker 1: do it. You can see that, little brother you do.
Speaker 1: I'm just joking, but I'm more curious about who else
Speaker 1: is because I was just curious because I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: you gotta I know people becoming at you when you
Speaker 1: do these black radio albums, like yeah, well I haven't
Speaker 1: even I haven't even said it out loud that I
Speaker 1: was doing it until I released a single um a
Speaker 1: few days ago, one of the singles off the record
Speaker 1: with the song I did called Better Than I Imagine
Speaker 1: and with her with her and Michelle dail Cello. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's that's something I was holding for Black Radio three.
Speaker 1: But I was like, funk it, yeah, you know, because
Speaker 1: I can still go on the record correct, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: But I was like, I don't want to hold it
Speaker 1: any longer. I'll put this one out, you know, just
Speaker 1: to just put it out there because I need to
Speaker 1: put some music. I just out like I want to
Speaker 1: put something out and this is a good time for it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And you know. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got to December to finish it, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go come next year. What have you been doing the
Speaker 1: last six months? Have you been working at home or
Speaker 1: just like doing nothing? Well? No, I learned how to
Speaker 1: do logic pretty good. I got better. That's what I do.
Speaker 1: That's all. That's where I got. I got better at logic.
Speaker 1: And actually I'm building a mea terrorist building a studio
Speaker 1: right behind my house right here, like literally ten steps away.
Speaker 1: There's a one apartment behind my crib and my landlord
Speaker 1: moved out of there and we took it over and
Speaker 1: made it the studio. So we'll be finished with that
Speaker 1: and like two or three weeks, so that would be
Speaker 1: a place where we can really go work, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And so we've been doing that. And
Speaker 1: about the noise, no, you can't even they can't. It's separate.
Speaker 1: It's just no neighbor. The way it is. My lanlord
Speaker 1: had it. My landlord had it built by and people
Speaker 1: from our church. It's like all cement and it stands
Speaker 1: on its own. It's like isolated. Is dope. It's really dope.
Speaker 1: So you're in Okay, Okay, that's curious. Yeah, yeah, Wood yeah,
Speaker 1: you know this is we've we've known each other for
Speaker 1: the longest, but we really haven't never had an in
Speaker 1: depth conversation. And what I no, no, But the thing
Speaker 1: I was always curious about was that I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a same way that Philadelphia had its renaissance and
Speaker 1: two thousand Yeah, you know, I felt that Houston had
Speaker 1: that same renaissance in two thousand and six, two thou seven.
Speaker 1: You know, with all these musicians who at the time,
Speaker 1: like what was going on in your high school? With
Speaker 1: with all these musicians that were thinking left a center,
Speaker 1: like what was what was in the air, what was
Speaker 1: going on? The cool thing about my high school, which
Speaker 1: you know art high schools, because you went to one
Speaker 1: of the best ones in Philly, so you went to
Speaker 1: I want to perform in out of high school in
Speaker 1: Houston High School for performing arts. And the cool thing
Speaker 1: about my high school, which I think we might be
Speaker 1: the only high school that did this. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: or maybe not. You can tell me if y'all did this.
Speaker 1: My jazz director and not even just the jazz director,
Speaker 1: and all the art areas they hired teachers that didn't
Speaker 1: have degrees. Wow, so our jazz cats that were teachers
Speaker 1: were just cats. They didn't have degrees. They did this
Speaker 1: by design on purpose or yes, because the motherfuckers that
Speaker 1: have to degrees most of the time, you know. But
Speaker 1: the cats that the cats, they're just playing. They out
Speaker 1: there playing. So they was coming to the school showing
Speaker 1: us was hit right now because they're out there playing
Speaker 1: right now. So the cats that was over our our jazz,
Speaker 1: our jazz classes are our jazz professor. Dr Morgan had
Speaker 1: a degree, but he made it so he would just
Speaker 1: hire different and sometimes we can see one dude for
Speaker 1: three months and never see him again, but he was done.
Speaker 1: But it was And what the one of the cool
Speaker 1: things about us school also is we had a class
Speaker 1: period called listening. You didn't play. You came in and
Speaker 1: we had a CD player and everybody in the class
Speaker 1: could bring anything they wanted to and you just sat
Speaker 1: there and listened. Damn. And part of the problem with
Speaker 1: a lot of musicians is they don't listen, and they
Speaker 1: don't know what to listen to, and they just don't listen,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And our our jazz rector
Speaker 1: made a class called listen, so I would brief stuff.
Speaker 1: It could be gospel. It could be anything and and
Speaker 1: and all the kinds to bring stuff. You know, every
Speaker 1: Mark Kelly, that's Mark about it. So it was would
Speaker 1: you go to school with? Like with in my class?
Speaker 1: In my I went to school with Mark Kelly. I
Speaker 1: went to school with Kendrick Scott uh drummer, really guitar player,
Speaker 1: Mike Moreno, um Beyonce, she was there for one year. Um. Brian,
Speaker 1: Brian Cox, he was my best friend. Yeah, I met Yeah,
Speaker 1: I met Brian grad and he told me to come there.
Speaker 1: We met at a talent competition because the Sammy David's
Speaker 1: Junior Awards, and I was playing I was playing piano
Speaker 1: with a gospel group and he was singing with an
Speaker 1: R and B group called Business or Pleasure. Oh that
Speaker 1: was that was like that was two yeah, please tell
Speaker 1: please tell me, Please tell me. Pleasure was spelled with
Speaker 1: a Z, right it might have got so. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: so Brian we met at that competition. He's like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: you gotta come to p b A where you were
Speaker 1: all all the cats playing this. But I was like,
Speaker 1: what's that? You know? But so he told me about it,
Speaker 1: and I didn't go with my freshman year because I
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna be a basketball player, so I
Speaker 1: was like, nah, I want to play basketball. So I
Speaker 1: wasn't even serious about piano yet. Yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: play basketball. I wasn't serious. How old were you when
Speaker 1: you got serious about piano? When I got serious, uh,
Speaker 1: I was in like ten grade when I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, good night, But I was playing the church
Speaker 1: or stuff I was playing. I started playing the church.
Speaker 1: I really started playing piano. My mom was My mom
Speaker 1: was the musica director at church, and she sang in
Speaker 1: clubs all to the week, like clubs like R and
Speaker 1: B gigs and stuff like that. She was literally like
Speaker 1: Whoopi Goldberg and sister at all that. And then on
Speaker 1: Sundays did she have a group. Yes, her and my
Speaker 1: stepdad had a group. They were literally like seafist and received.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely hilarious early eighties, the curls, the colors, so
Speaker 1: for real. But but but on Sundays, my mom was
Speaker 1: a mister music. I have a small church, you know,
Speaker 1: so they allowed me to play the little or broad
Speaker 1: Gass Oregon that was in the corner. So I used
Speaker 1: to play every Sunday that passed. Whose birthday is it?
Speaker 1: And when I was eleven, I was playing with one finger.
Speaker 1: Happy Birthday. I figured out how to have a birthday
Speaker 1: of one finger. And then they just let me every Sunday,
Speaker 1: they just let me sit there and figure the the
Speaker 1: service out. I started playing with the band songs with
Speaker 1: one finger because my dad played with the banche off
Speaker 1: to the house every day all the time. So I
Speaker 1: was learning all that kind of songs and just and
Speaker 1: then I just I really talked. I really taught myself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I just you know, and then at age like, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe age fourteen, that's when I know what's te tenth grade,
Speaker 1: I don't know tenh grade is whatever you say. I
Speaker 1: auditioned with. I auditioned with three gospel songs because I
Speaker 1: don't know need Jason's. So there was no wait. But
Speaker 1: from beginnings of church to the fifteen there was nobody,
Speaker 1: got no guidance, nobody to say, but this is how
Speaker 1: you really do this? But I see, my mom had
Speaker 1: a band and in the band there was a piano
Speaker 1: piano player nam Alan Mosley that nobody knows, one of
Speaker 1: them cats from your hometown. That was drunk, but it
Speaker 1: was really good. And no, you know, he's a legend.
Speaker 1: You never see him. So I used to sit next
Speaker 1: to him at the piano bench and they would have
Speaker 1: rehearsals because we have rehearsales at our career. We had
Speaker 1: pianos and answers have a heards of the cris. So
Speaker 1: I would sit there and watch him. So the only
Speaker 1: song I played at my audition that was jazzy was
Speaker 1: he taught me how to play the Spider Man theme
Speaker 1: in the in the in the form of a c
Speaker 1: mind of blues. So he told me how to walk
Speaker 1: a baseline boo boo boom boom boom boom boo boo boo. Well,
Speaker 1: so that's what I did that, and I did three
Speaker 1: gospel songs and then I got in wait speaking Robert,
Speaker 1: you remember the time I bet you that you wouldn't
Speaker 1: h man. This this is the most the most devastating
Speaker 1: gig of my life was Robert as a joke, you know,
Speaker 1: I think Robert says, I'm gonna sneak the Smurts theme
Speaker 1: into this jay Z song, all right, So it was
Speaker 1: one of them, just one of them, It was all right.
Speaker 1: So me and Robert Glasper were we were like paying
Speaker 1: tribute to jay Z at one of these like you
Speaker 1: know tho dollar plate, banquet spots and uh. At the
Speaker 1: last minute, I told Glass when I said, yo, like,
Speaker 1: you know, do do something like really uh, you know,
Speaker 1: high class for these people, like you know, to make
Speaker 1: it sound like classical stuff. And he gets at the
Speaker 1: piano and starts off like you know, you know, like
Speaker 1: Alicia Keys first came out playing for at least you
Speaker 1: think like some deep ship. So Robert goes ringing and
Speaker 1: the audience like Mariah carry Yoka Owner. Everyone's looking and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, this is Motherucker's I was playing
Speaker 1: the sperson I love you. My communication Michael Phone, I
Speaker 1: was like, what are you playing the smurst right now?
Speaker 1: But then we'll be stag. It went downhill from there
Speaker 1: because then Taik forgot all jay Z's lyrics in front
Speaker 1: of jay Z. Yes, Yo, man, worst ever. But I
Speaker 1: remember when we gotta stage, y'all go on the wh
Speaker 1: for ruing on your shoe. She came. She just threw
Speaker 1: up and just fell on me and like a hug
Speaker 1: and fell up on it. She was like Yoga owner
Speaker 1: or her sister threw up on somebody's shoes, And yo,
Speaker 1: that's like, y' that's like a George Clayton story. Y'all
Speaker 1: make sure remember that James just signed to the Leave.
Speaker 1: I thought he was about to get dropped, calling me like,
Speaker 1: how could you guys forget his music? Everyone knows this song? Right?
Speaker 1: Were you always this person? Like in school too? Were
Speaker 1: like were you always funny and like, you know, outgoing
Speaker 1: or whatnot? Were that is that the same you always? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was the kid that I would had to sit
Speaker 1: out in the hallway like, yeah, I was. That was me.
Speaker 1: That was me the whole all the time. Yeah. Literally
Speaker 1: I ran into a girl, dude. Maybe in January, I know, December.
Speaker 1: I was in Houston, went to a went to a
Speaker 1: Bars of Noble, ran into an elementary school friend of
Speaker 1: mine I met. We were in the same play. We
Speaker 1: played Hucky Huckey Berry Finn play. I played Huckey Berry Fan.
Speaker 1: Oh wow. In fifth grade. That was my debut on stage.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing I've ever done acting Tom Sawyer.
Speaker 1: Tom Sawyer was an Indian dude. We're we're ahead of
Speaker 1: our time. We were out there the first of all.
Speaker 1: Look and I meant that I saw this girl. She
Speaker 1: looked at me. Oh my god, Robert, So I saw her.
Speaker 1: I was like the pig, That's what I said. She
Speaker 1: was the pig and the play. She looked exactly the same, exactly,
Speaker 1: and she was like, oh my god, you still haven't
Speaker 1: changed since you're in fourth grade. This is so crazy.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, I have I literally haven't. Great question,
Speaker 1: was Chris at your school as well? Chris Dave? I
Speaker 1: don't know how old Chris is Chris, but he's Chris.
Speaker 1: He's supposed to be as good as as he's a
Speaker 1: hundred thirteen Chris God, damn Like, no, Chris went. Chris
Speaker 1: graduated from p b A in nineteen nine. What Chris
Speaker 1: is my age? Chris is like Chris is like forty?
Speaker 1: Is he is God? Yo? Because his voice make you
Speaker 1: think that he's he keeps bringing prodigy because you keep
Speaker 1: thinking he's the little kid. It's old as fuck. You're like,
Speaker 1: this is a thirteen year olds amazing, How do you
Speaker 1: do that? No, so Chris win, No so Chris. That
Speaker 1: was a drummer named Mark sim Is before you. Did
Speaker 1: you know Mark Mark Simmons? No, okay, so Mark Simmons
Speaker 1: was probably the beginning. Before Mark Simmons. There was something
Speaker 1: going to the lineage of drummers at the school. There
Speaker 1: was what's the fucking dude that played with Tyra Power
Speaker 1: anyway for Ta Power grummans um Uh, fucking Dave Gibraldi. No,
Speaker 1: not the famous one, the other guy. Maybe he did
Speaker 1: some tourists never mind. Yeah, maybe after that there was
Speaker 1: Mark Simmons. Mark Simmons if you ever saw in the
Speaker 1: last twenty years or whatever Al Jaro or fucking George Benson,
Speaker 1: he was on drums. He's the guy that was like
Speaker 1: maybe a year or two older than Chris that made
Speaker 1: Chris like really shad because he did something to Chris
Speaker 1: in high school really bad. So Chris was mad at him.
Speaker 1: He had a vendetta against him the whole time. So
Speaker 1: Chris that fire under Chris. That's what little fire have
Speaker 1: to do with the girl that made Chris go in
Speaker 1: the practice room and never come out. That's the story.
Speaker 1: All my friends are around that time, tell that story.
Speaker 1: They're like, yo, he went to practice with the come
Speaker 1: on practice room. So it was. And there was Eric
Speaker 1: Harlan after Chris. They went together around the same time.
Speaker 1: Maybe Chris is a senior, maybe Eric was, you know,
Speaker 1: a sophomore or something, or a freshman. Uh. After that,
Speaker 1: then it was Kendrick Scott and then Jamaya you know,
Speaker 1: Jamiah Williams, Jameyer. Yeah. Um, they're still putting out some
Speaker 1: great motherfucker. James Francis, you know he's he's a Francis
Speaker 1: Francis from his parents used to drop him off when
Speaker 1: I would do gigs in Houston. James used to do
Speaker 1: his parents us to drop him off in my sound
Speaker 1: checks so he could watch a sound check because he
Speaker 1: was too young to come for the show. So I
Speaker 1: used to let him sit like right by me and
Speaker 1: stuff and watching my sound checks because he wasn't Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when he got to New York. Yeah, when he
Speaker 1: got to New York, I told I called poison. I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, okay, I see yeah. Yeah. So when whenever,
Speaker 1: whenever James or Ray Angry or Kamal, I can't do
Speaker 1: the Tonight show. That uh James Francis. I mean he
Speaker 1: was a young boy back then. But now you know
Speaker 1: he's one of his own gigs at Blue Note. You
Speaker 1: know that's the thing. I used to think him in
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Bowl. Now you know, I need a daughter to say,
Speaker 1: like I went to school with like these young lions.
Speaker 1: Like when I was in school, like my third day
Speaker 1: of school, Di Francisco is getting pulled out by Miles
Speaker 1: Davis because like it'll be like, who was Miles and
Speaker 1: keyboard playing? Was it Kenny Kirkland? No? Uh before he
Speaker 1: passed away like eighty six during the two tube era
Speaker 1: one of those guys. Definitely Kner. Okay, I forget it was,
Speaker 1: but you know, I'll be like, yo, where are you going?
Speaker 1: And he's like, now it's sucking up against some miles
Speaker 1: and send them for me. I mean, they was the
Speaker 1: typical of that, like Christian you know, Elis Marcella's come
Speaker 1: and take Christian own school for two weeks, you know,
Speaker 1: so like basically they were. They were the young lions
Speaker 1: of my generation. But the thing was is that they
Speaker 1: were following traditional jazz. And obviously, I guess my introduction
Speaker 1: to your world was via Blau And you know, in
Speaker 1: hearing Bloud break every rule of of what song structure
Speaker 1: was m and I'm wondering, well, okay, and I asked,
Speaker 1: I was like, well, who's the who's the music version
Speaker 1: of you? Like who else is breaking the rules? And
Speaker 1: then I met all of you guys in a month
Speaker 1: or so, and I just never seen because I knew
Speaker 1: you guys were seeing as jazz musicians, but I was
Speaker 1: always wondering if whether or not you get embraced by
Speaker 1: the jazz community, Like would they let you play in
Speaker 1: reindeer games? Because you guys were looking at the rule
Speaker 1: books and sort of just throwing it out the window,
Speaker 1: like did you have to master it? Like did you
Speaker 1: have to sneak in the house first and sort of
Speaker 1: talk their language and da da da da, and then
Speaker 1: hold them hostage once you had your power? Like about
Speaker 1: that process? Ibute Cloud and you too that. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you why. I'll tell you why because when I got
Speaker 1: to the New school and I need nineties seven for college. Um,
Speaker 1: I met below the first day of school and we
Speaker 1: were like one of eight black people at the school,
Speaker 1: at the new school, at the new schools, like in
Speaker 1: the jazz program. Yeah, what a lot of black people.
Speaker 1: Maybe exaggerating, maybe they were fifteen. Honestly, everybody is black. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so check it out. Though they put out a freshman
Speaker 1: in the room and they called you at random to
Speaker 1: come on the stage. They called me a blow on
Speaker 1: stage at random together to play a song together. Don't
Speaker 1: tell you what to play is just whatever, y'all. You
Speaker 1: go there with a cat. They called on drum songs
Speaker 1: on piano, Robot, glass room vocal, Balou Oliver, I'm doing
Speaker 1: a little uh. We get to play the song. We
Speaker 1: got off the stage and we look at each other like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well they did they give you a fake book at
Speaker 1: least they're like, what do you know? You just called him? Nope,
Speaker 1: call two years supposed to know it? Yeah, or you
Speaker 1: talk to each other and like you know this now
Speaker 1: you know this, I don't know kind of you know,
Speaker 1: just like like could do at a dat club now
Speaker 1: because you know so and so I think, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: you figure it out. But whatever, we think remember what
Speaker 1: it was. I have no idea what it was. But
Speaker 1: when we got off and we we were you know,
Speaker 1: you couldn't separate us after that because it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, he actually all spoke a different language immediately,
Speaker 1: and so we began working on stuff together and one
Speaker 1: of the president of the school at the time, Arnie Lawrence,
Speaker 1: he passed away. He saw us and was like, you
Speaker 1: two have something, y'all should go in and work on
Speaker 1: the demo for Balad and we were like okay. So
Speaker 1: he said, my friend has a studio around the corner,
Speaker 1: y'all can I talked to him already, y'all can go
Speaker 1: over there and kind of come up with some stuff.
Speaker 1: And his boy was Aaron Comus doctors spend doctors, so
Speaker 1: men believed this story when Balau told me, I'm like,
Speaker 1: who we're doing this here and Coma and I was like, uh, yeah.
Speaker 1: So we were going over there after school every day
Speaker 1: just writing songs and yeah, a bunch of just jazz
Speaker 1: music is are on the album because we didn't know
Speaker 1: anybody that played anything else. We just knew the cats
Speaker 1: from the school. So that was Queen of Sanity the demo. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and y'all came just about you and James came in
Speaker 1: there and redid it. Yeah, we had liked the drums. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was essentially when I when I heard that demo, man,
Speaker 1: I you know again, I'm I'm happy to say that
Speaker 1: my my, my record of the six demos I ever
Speaker 1: heard and listened to and became fans of, like they
Speaker 1: all became like something in the world. Of course, you know,
Speaker 1: little brother Jill Scott, Slum Village Um. But hearing that
Speaker 1: Bellowed demo, I don't know how it came across. I
Speaker 1: don't know who played it for me whatever, but I
Speaker 1: just I thought, this person, I remember you being hyplamir
Speaker 1: about those Yeah, much much to my detriment. If there's
Speaker 1: ever a recapping of the kind of Black Lily Roots
Speaker 1: jam session story, like an oral history or whatever, uh,
Speaker 1: my enthusiasm for wanting to work with Bilal definitely made
Speaker 1: one of just feel a certain way because I mean
Speaker 1: basically every everyone had a job at this thing, and
Speaker 1: it was more like, Okay, I'm the money from you know,
Speaker 1: like so tour money back to the jam sesn't back
Speaker 1: to the you know. And I would make appearances every
Speaker 1: now and then, but it's like after working on you know,
Speaker 1: the stuff at Electric Lady and then coming back to
Speaker 1: do Roots stuff, Like I wasn't trying to like also
Speaker 1: do five hours at these jam sessions, but here in
Speaker 1: Blo sing Man, and I was just like alright, I'll
Speaker 1: come yeah, so you know, just ye and those those
Speaker 1: jam sessions so blow. So we started working on the
Speaker 1: demo whatever, and but me and him used to get
Speaker 1: on the bus from school and go down to Philly
Speaker 1: on Monday Monday nights to the five tuesdays used to
Speaker 1: go the bus and go we go stay at his
Speaker 1: mom's house in Germantown. That was my first times. We're
Speaker 1: ever going to Philly just a week and go to
Speaker 1: those jam sessions. And then y'all started coming to doing
Speaker 1: the ones at Lake Street. Yeah on uh uh what's
Speaker 1: the name is? Uh? Wetlands Wetlands. So seeing y'all play live,
Speaker 1: but I was always trying to get me to understand
Speaker 1: how to play y'all ship, and I didn't understand what
Speaker 1: the funk he was talking about. He's like, you know, like,
Speaker 1: you know, like play, don't play it on? Play it off?
Speaker 1: What play like? You know how to play, but you
Speaker 1: don't know how to play? What the fun you talk of?
Speaker 1: The about? No? N like like? And then I saw
Speaker 1: y'all live and I saw James Poyser. I was like,
Speaker 1: so that made me. I kept going back. Then he
Speaker 1: would let me sit in with you or yo, you
Speaker 1: would let me sit in you know. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was a jazz friend and I would sit in
Speaker 1: with you all. And because of sitting in with you
Speaker 1: with the roots, that's how I learned how to play
Speaker 1: that ship. I didn't I never heard it. I didn't
Speaker 1: understand what it was so weird to me because in
Speaker 1: my mind you and all your Houstonians just have another
Speaker 1: relationship with time, with with meter and time that is
Speaker 1: beyond anything I've done or you know, dare say at
Speaker 1: Dila or whatever like I I just I've never seen.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like watching the animaniacs running the water tower,
Speaker 1: like you know, when you see them running and help
Speaker 1: the smooth. That's a crazy analogy. We all know it
Speaker 1: or the like. That's what I mean. Like, but what
Speaker 1: I want to know is how did you force the
Speaker 1: jazz world to your will? Because I don't think that's
Speaker 1: I don't think that's an easy it's not task like
Speaker 1: That's here's the thing. I always knew that I had
Speaker 1: to make sure that I could play jazz with the
Speaker 1: best stuff and before I decided to do anything else,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I had to Like when
Speaker 1: Herbie played with Miles put his first few albums out,
Speaker 1: there was no you couldn't question her about ship, about
Speaker 1: canny play, that all that that was already solidified. There's
Speaker 1: no argument there. So when he did Headhunters, you cannot
Speaker 1: like it if you want to, but you can't dispute
Speaker 1: him as a jazz artist, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: as a jazz piano player, especially being black, they're so
Speaker 1: quick to want to call you a hip hop piano
Speaker 1: player or R and B pian third, they're really quick
Speaker 1: to not want to give you the title of that.
Speaker 1: So it was it was in my mind I was like, well, no,
Speaker 1: even when I before I got signed, I said, in
Speaker 1: my mind I knew I was, I want to do
Speaker 1: a few jazz albums first, to ship these motherfucker's up
Speaker 1: who are gonna be talking, and then I want to
Speaker 1: do my other ship, you know what, Like you reminded
Speaker 1: me of like the like Donald Bird. That's how I
Speaker 1: always kind of saw your career as like Donald Bird.
Speaker 1: But then you know, he did his thing. But then
Speaker 1: when he got with Mazelle Brothers, yep, it just became
Speaker 1: you know something, yeah, for sure, exactly exactly, and that's
Speaker 1: my thing. I wanted to make sure. So then when
Speaker 1: that happened, my thing was just grabbing all the young
Speaker 1: people because I felt like jazz whether for young people anymore.
Speaker 1: And what made what made me get into jazz with
Speaker 1: Roy Roy came to my Roy Roy came to my school,
Speaker 1: and when I was in eleventh grade. I never forget it.
Speaker 1: He went there too, right, No, he went to the
Speaker 1: one in Dallas with Erica. He went to the went
Speaker 1: to the book of Team Washington. Yeah, Nora Jones and
Speaker 1: the whole thing. So that was our rival. We rivaled
Speaker 1: them off time for all state jazz competitions. And so
Speaker 1: when Roy came to our school when I was in
Speaker 1: eleventh grade, he was already real heart growth the albums
Speaker 1: that he came to the school and he had on
Speaker 1: like overalls and Tim's you know, and his band was black.
Speaker 1: I've never seen that. I've never seen five young black
Speaker 1: guys that looked like me, dressed like me, talk like
Speaker 1: me up there playing jazz. That's never You've never seen that,
Speaker 1: because when you're at school to the pictures of jazz
Speaker 1: is what they give you, and it's all in black
Speaker 1: and white, and it's everybody has in the suit and
Speaker 1: it's not you know, it's nothing, it's nothing that has
Speaker 1: anything to do with you right now, you know, So Roy,
Speaker 1: maybe he completely changed my whole ship. So that's literally
Speaker 1: why I am the way I am now, because I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm killing the stereotype, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I feel like when people look at me, a lot
Speaker 1: of times they don't know. They don't know what the
Speaker 1: funk I did, you know what I mean. And when
Speaker 1: I was, you know, selling out the Blue Note and
Speaker 1: the Vanguard and all these places, white people will walk
Speaker 1: by me. I would be outside hang on my friend.
Speaker 1: They walked by me looking at me like what are
Speaker 1: you doing here? You know? But the people on the bust,
Speaker 1: a lot of that is like, you know, they don't know.
Speaker 1: They come to New York and get on the bus
Speaker 1: and they take you to where somebody famous is playing.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. But they look at me
Speaker 1: and my jeans and my T shirt and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we if I was walking down the street, you think
Speaker 1: I'm a rapper or you think I'm whatever. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You don't think I'm about this here
Speaker 1: and play stell Up by Starlight or actually play this
Speaker 1: piano the way I do, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And that's where I got literally got that from Roy
Speaker 1: and that's what made kids. He inspired me so much
Speaker 1: because he looked like me. So I was like, that's
Speaker 1: what I want to do, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I want to inspire the young cats. So I think
Speaker 1: when it came to the jazz world, I just ignored
Speaker 1: them and really went for the young people, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, by still keeping the integrity of jazz,
Speaker 1: but making it to something where they could identify with,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And that's a wow. The
Speaker 1: jazz world couldn't deny it anymore. They try to. I
Speaker 1: think you have to do that though, because I think,
Speaker 1: you know, even like in all forms of music, you
Speaker 1: have to kind of, if not necessarily, appeal to the
Speaker 1: young people. You at least have to know how to
Speaker 1: communicate with them because they're the ones that's coming next.
Speaker 1: So if you want your thing to live on, you
Speaker 1: gotta get the young uns so they can carry it on,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Bradford in that conversation, you
Speaker 1: like in a way with like his projects, like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, I was gonna ask when the
Speaker 1: jazz there was the jazz police of like when Marcellus
Speaker 1: all those cats, Um, is there such thing as the
Speaker 1: jazz police? Like there's still people himself that's okay, jazz
Speaker 1: at the agent took Grand Jazz Police that. Oh y'all
Speaker 1: didn't see it. Y'all didn't y'all didn't see it right
Speaker 1: that years ago Branford, turn on you hold on, Branford,
Speaker 1: put put me out. Look, this happened maybe two years
Speaker 1: two years ago, maybe three years ago. Two years ago
Speaker 1: he did a uh he did an interview for one
Speaker 1: of them, jazz magazine, maybe Downbeat or something like that,
Speaker 1: and in the middle of interview, they were like, so, Brandford,
Speaker 1: what do you think about what people like Robert Glassper
Speaker 1: and Macy Washington are doing. You know, you did Buckshot
Speaker 1: La Funk. What do you think about Robert glasp was doing?
Speaker 1: He said, well, you know, Jack commosity, he's not a
Speaker 1: jazz he's not a jazz saxophone player. Just to him
Speaker 1: all the way over. Then he said, and Robert, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm glad he's doing what he's doing because he's he
Speaker 1: has the limited jazz vicca but vocabulary also And then
Speaker 1: you ask him, he'll tell you the same thing. Those
Speaker 1: were literally his words. So, Robert, do you have a
Speaker 1: jaz like what who? I'm heartbroken? What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Do you not know who
Speaker 1: you are? So so far the listener, if you have
Speaker 1: a limited jazzer cavalery who has an unlimited jazzer caval
Speaker 1: Who is that? Yeah? That was like, come on, bro,
Speaker 1: like that's now you're now that was that was just
Speaker 1: like that's reckless, that's reckless. That's like you know he
Speaker 1: they didn't even ask him that. That wasn't even the question.
Speaker 1: He didn't add do you think they're jazz musicians or
Speaker 1: do you think what they're doing the jazz? They said,
Speaker 1: you did bus shot la funk. So they were literally
Speaker 1: speaking to crossing over and he took that time, took
Speaker 1: that little platform to put us down instead of being like,
Speaker 1: oh well ship Robert Glass and Black Radio that's doing
Speaker 1: That's great. I'm happy, but something you don't use that
Speaker 1: platform the shoot down on the two top black instrumental
Speaker 1: jazz musicians that you know what I mean, why why
Speaker 1: would you do that? Come on, bro, like what do
Speaker 1: you think it's required? I mean, you know every genre
Speaker 1: has there and they were disrespecting Brantford. You know, just
Speaker 1: there's always the grumpy will go out Branford. Just know
Speaker 1: he did that. I love him. If y'all have you
Speaker 1: have you seen him? Y'all ran into each other? No,
Speaker 1: but before he said that, I ran into him at
Speaker 1: the club but we had dreams he was playing. I
Speaker 1: went to see him play. I had had a night
Speaker 1: off in Seattle. He was playing. Me and Chris and
Speaker 1: a few other people went down there hung out. I
Speaker 1: always showed brand for love. He's always actually show him.
Speaker 1: We've been cool every time I see him, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But I just felt like he was
Speaker 1: gonna say that. You could have said that to my face.
Speaker 1: You could have been said that to my face. Bro No.
Speaker 1: In fact, I saw him at International Jazz Day. I
Speaker 1: saw him International Jazz Day in Russia maybe two years
Speaker 1: ago something, and that old you know what, and we
Speaker 1: had a little uh, you know, it's all coming in
Speaker 1: bad jazz, you know. You know that. It's like they
Speaker 1: bring in a bunch of jazz musicians and and and
Speaker 1: then they put it. They put you in a different
Speaker 1: country every year and to promote jazz, you know, and
Speaker 1: you do a concert together and they break you up
Speaker 1: a little groups and you do like one song. So
Speaker 1: we did the Jazz Day thing and me and Bradford
Speaker 1: backstage and somebody came up and was like, so, um,
Speaker 1: what do y'all think? What makes jazz jazz? And we're
Speaker 1: talking about it you know, and and Bradford said the
Speaker 1: space between the quarter notes. Okay. I was like, what
Speaker 1: before it sounds what do you mean the space between
Speaker 1: the like literally the space between the corter notes, like
Speaker 1: the space between the so I was like, the space
Speaker 1: between the course. So literally it's a mathematical thing, like
Speaker 1: if you do this space with this spaci recording those,
Speaker 1: that's jazz. We kind of got into a think about
Speaker 1: it because the answer he gave was like, come on, bro,
Speaker 1: like it sounds it sounded like witten, I mean, no
Speaker 1: one has the two and like there, no, we don't.
Speaker 1: But there's nerds like me that wanted a scientific definition,
Speaker 1: and there's creatives like you that you know that will
Speaker 1: never have the right answer or whatever, Like I don't
Speaker 1: think any creative truly knows what the definition of what
Speaker 1: makes their art form tick. You know. Yeah. Right. But
Speaker 1: then but we're having to just a discussion and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: we start talking about tunes. I said, so because this
Speaker 1: is not swing, we're talking about talk about right symbol everything.
Speaker 1: And it was like, so you're you're you're now defining
Speaker 1: a whole genre by a rhythm. So because it doesn't
Speaker 1: intend to thing it's not jazz, So what's Red play?
Speaker 1: And he was like, not Jack, right, I said, so
Speaker 1: Red Clay's not Clay jazz Nick. So this is this
Speaker 1: is trapped versus real hip hop. I get this is
Speaker 1: us so long argument. I get it for somebody, but
Speaker 1: for somebody who made but something the funk, I just
Speaker 1: suspected something different. I expected different answer, different answer. But
Speaker 1: that was but again, that was twenty six years ago.
Speaker 1: That was me. Look even on Winton went and innovated
Speaker 1: the music and then stopped. He did Black Codes and
Speaker 1: then stopped. Black Code is such an innovative record, you know,
Speaker 1: Black Codes from the Underground, Black Holes from the Underground. Bro.
Speaker 1: It's like absolutely fucking incredible, you know, and one of
Speaker 1: my favorite records. Absolutely absolutely you know. Uh something went
Speaker 1: and called me go ahead, oh wait, go ahead, go
Speaker 1: back to that because he called you a whole another round.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to step into because
Speaker 1: because it was because of the Lord Hill stuff, only
Speaker 1: go in, come on, come on with the smoke. No
Speaker 1: went and called me. I was in Japan and never
Speaker 1: forget it. He called. He texted me and it was like,
Speaker 1: yo is this Robert Glass. I was like yeah, who's this?
Speaker 1: It's like this went and I was like, oh, Ship,
Speaker 1: what's up? How you doing? Man? It's like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you know I just wanted to call and tell you,
Speaker 1: you know, let this Lauren hillship go. And I was like,
Speaker 1: that's his first words to you ever, yes, you whatever?
Speaker 1: On the phone. We don't talk on the phone. I
Speaker 1: don't talk to Win on the phone. You know you
Speaker 1: text me this ship is costing me extra money? You
Speaker 1: facing my dad to talk me like this ship. He's like,
Speaker 1: let this Lauren Hill should go. First of all, I
Speaker 1: never drugging arm. I said I think that ready interview
Speaker 1: and I never posted about it. I never said anything
Speaker 1: about it there again online. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I did that that ready to interview posted and I
Speaker 1: didn't put ship on my I G. I didn't even
Speaker 1: put that ready when on my face. But nothing. So
Speaker 1: he hit me with that let this go. And I
Speaker 1: was like, well, I'm not doing anything, but you know,
Speaker 1: the truth is the truth. I don't really know what
Speaker 1: you want me to do. He was just like, man,
Speaker 1: you know she's got all these followers and stuff, and
Speaker 1: you know you're not gonna win that battle. And I
Speaker 1: just think it's best if you just a battle. I'm
Speaker 1: not battling. I'm not Wait, you were missing the most
Speaker 1: important part. When Marcellus knows who learned, who is what? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he has as a whole another level too, you yourself,
Speaker 1: seven million albums, niggas know who the definitely dude dude
Speaker 1: first of all, Yeah, this if I never thought when
Speaker 1: you left this jazz bubble. I know, I know, but
Speaker 1: things to bring up, that's crazy. That's what he texts
Speaker 1: me about our first text and only texts to this day.
Speaker 1: You know your word movie what I told him? I said,
Speaker 1: but every time I saw him, every time I see
Speaker 1: him in person, and honestly, when I go see him play,
Speaker 1: he invites me up to play, He calls me up
Speaker 1: on stage and ship, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I don't have a beef with no real beef and win.
Speaker 1: You know, some things he says, like come on, bro,
Speaker 1: you know, but it's fine. It's fine. And he's never
Speaker 1: thrown me under the bus in some interview or you know,
Speaker 1: or try to do anything malicious, but you know, so
Speaker 1: we were texting about that and then finally I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: don't every time I see himself I'm gonna get you
Speaker 1: on some hip hop ship. He was like, oh, bro,
Speaker 1: you know I'm I'm gonna just deal with the swing.
Speaker 1: I ain't down with the bitches and the niggas. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I said that, That's what I said.
Speaker 1: I say, brom, all hip hop isn't like that. That's
Speaker 1: one little second. Different styles of jazz, there's different kinds.
Speaker 1: And I say, if you ever checked out anything I've done,
Speaker 1: you don't hear that? He was like, you know, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll well, we'll see. But he always
Speaker 1: says that every time I see I'm not the grades,
Speaker 1: It's like, come on, bro, that's not Yeah, it's so
Speaker 1: crazy when at one point you was a young dude
Speaker 1: like and Jack. Jazz beats are so funny to me.
Speaker 1: They've been happening for like, it's just the beginning. Have
Speaker 1: have you? Have you? And have you and Lauren ever
Speaker 1: talked after that? Since posting back radio? You know you
Speaker 1: know what are you doing? Look? But look hold on
Speaker 1: and let me on that song so I can also
Speaker 1: olive Branch that moment too too. Yeah, you got you
Speaker 1: gotta men. You helped feed the fire. Robert Glasses, but
Speaker 1: bet Patty Beat, Patty Chef, you change your Twitter, your
Speaker 1: Twitter handle to Robert glasses Beat Patty Chefs. No healing,
Speaker 1: It's no healing, It's man The Shockers of with Marcel
Speaker 1: No Lauren Hills. Lauren Hill, no social media Twitter. This
Speaker 1: is a great day. Look, I'm must saw her at
Speaker 1: atu what is it? North c Jazz Festival just right.
Speaker 1: I literally was sitting outside and a bust up and
Speaker 1: it was her tour bus and all the cats came
Speaker 1: off like yo, rab blah blah. They were like, well,
Speaker 1: Lauren just got off at the other place. So there
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, cool, that would have been amazing
Speaker 1: if I'm sorry, I haven't seen that since then. But
Speaker 1: my thing is my thing is that you saw her
Speaker 1: statement she wrote after that, right, it was in it
Speaker 1: and honestly, and I didn't know it was the twenty
Speaker 1: when I did that interview. I didn't know what the
Speaker 1: twenties anniversary of Sucking that the album Miseducation where the
Speaker 1: guy and I've never talked that my Lauren situation happen
Speaker 1: in two thousand seven. We did this interview and what
Speaker 1: two thousand six, I've never said it out loud on
Speaker 1: the interview. They asked me, what's the worst musical experience
Speaker 1: we've ever had? And that is the first thing that's
Speaker 1: the first one that ever comes to mind is working
Speaker 1: with Lauren. It was terrible. A lot of people texted me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of people texted me like thank you, you know,
Speaker 1: thank you. Ship. We can't I can't say that ship,
Speaker 1: but thank you. A lot of cats was like good looks,
Speaker 1: you know, because some of them casts, you can't. They can't.
Speaker 1: You know, I can say that ship. I'm gonna fuck
Speaker 1: you know, but you know, and other cats that she
Speaker 1: uses in that way don't have the platform say ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I felt like for
Speaker 1: the power sation and my it wasn't me purposely coming
Speaker 1: at her. It was just that's what it was, and
Speaker 1: that everything was truth, everything was fat, and everything's still happening,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's like, you a
Speaker 1: whole gift to jazz in so many ways you have.
Speaker 1: But look, I'm here, I'm serious. I thought about this
Speaker 1: the other day. I was like, wouldn't it be? I
Speaker 1: thought about that though, what if what if we got
Speaker 1: her on black Readio three? Look? Man, it's and we're
Speaker 1: running out of space on our Bingo cards. You produced.
Speaker 1: What happened? You produce it? Lets that would be crazy.
Speaker 1: What it was y'all come up with? It was your idea.
Speaker 1: I'm doing for you in a silly way, in a silly,
Speaker 1: weird way. I feel like there's a possibility it could
Speaker 1: possibly happen. I think it'll be dope. So because as
Speaker 1: an artist, I have nothing against her, She's sucking incredible.
Speaker 1: You might have to extend your due date, but I
Speaker 1: think it could happen. Yeah, it'll definitely. It probably won't
Speaker 1: come out to a black Badio nineteen, but he'll be
Speaker 1: back to the theme of the show and renewed optimism.
Speaker 1: Now it's gonna get done. No one mirror, It's gonna
Speaker 1: get done. Listen, as as a president believes in manifesting
Speaker 1: positive energy and whatnot, Yes, we're gonna make it happen.
Speaker 1: I would love it, I will say, Lauren Hill, we
Speaker 1: are officially putting out the Olive Bridge. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: better the world will work better with our artistic contributions.
Speaker 1: It's needed in the world right now. So actually, really
Speaker 1: really all right, So questions while we on optimism the
Speaker 1: Lauren Jail. Yeah, oh I mean, if I'm still alowed,
Speaker 1: I got six teams for you. Okay, yeah, about this question, Brandy,
Speaker 1: and I want to ask you specifically, what is it
Speaker 1: like tracking her in the studio, tracking her vocals? Probably
Speaker 1: Brandy might be the illest tracker I've ever seen. It's incredible, bro,
Speaker 1: I've never seen nobody phase themselves out. I was gonna
Speaker 1: ask you about that. I saw another interview three times
Speaker 1: in one and in the in the middle of doing
Speaker 1: up the mystic, she phased herself out three times. That's
Speaker 1: how how on top of her vocal she is with
Speaker 1: with That's how her vocals she is when she stacks
Speaker 1: her ship is so exactly alike that she faces the
Speaker 1: computer out and it makes you think you're doing the
Speaker 1: same the track again or some ship. You're not really,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because most people, when you
Speaker 1: read do when you sing something else and you sing
Speaker 1: it again, sing it again, a stack it, there's always
Speaker 1: something different. It's always something and something. She's so dead
Speaker 1: on that ship, phase the funk out three times from
Speaker 1: the breath, from the briefing, from when she cut it off,
Speaker 1: where did my brother Will stopped? Like everything? It's incredible
Speaker 1: and she don't leave the booth to the fucking ship's
Speaker 1: done it, Like she come out and listen and vibe.
Speaker 1: She's like no, and she won't stop with the ideas.
Speaker 1: You have to stop her. No Brandy, no more vocal,
Speaker 1: no more stacks, no harmony. Yeah, and she wants to
Speaker 1: get it. She's so enthusiastic about getting it right and
Speaker 1: just that's wanting to try more and more ideas. She's
Speaker 1: not a lazy singer at all, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: it's incredible work with her. Man, she has to be
Speaker 1: one of the nicest too, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like even when I did when she was on my
Speaker 1: Black Radio album before that, she paid for the studio
Speaker 1: time because she was lait the other time or something
Speaker 1: like that. She couldn't make it, and she was like, yo,
Speaker 1: and she paid for the studio time and she you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I don't even know we're back there,
Speaker 1: you know, She's just this is such a nice a
Speaker 1: really really nice person Black Radio on Black Radio two. Man,
Speaker 1: you had a record, um it was. It was a
Speaker 1: lot of records on the album I love. I really
Speaker 1: loved the Emily Son send joint that. Yeah, I love.
Speaker 1: That's just a great song. Just the lyrics. She wrote
Speaker 1: that in twenty minutes. Are you serious that song? That song?
Speaker 1: Originally Mary j Blocks was supposed to sing it, and whoa.
Speaker 1: I had lyrics and everything already done, but getting with
Speaker 1: Mary just always kept, you know, we couldn't make it happen.
Speaker 1: So I had the lyrics in the song. I even
Speaker 1: had the song sung by somebody else to you know.
Speaker 1: Emily was in town and she came by the studio.
Speaker 1: I played her the song and she was like, I
Speaker 1: love it. I love it. She's like, do you mind
Speaker 1: if I changed the lyrics. I was like, no, dude,
Speaker 1: you feel she gotta pain? And pad out walked around,
Speaker 1: wrote that joint like twenty minutes bro wow literally and
Speaker 1: put that ship down The great Great gat to be
Speaker 1: premier some ship. Yeah, the record you did with um
Speaker 1: the Nora record that Mossino. Yeah, I love that joint. Man,
Speaker 1: How did job do you Assino? Like? Seeing the shot?
Speaker 1: That's yeah, y'all's cover of God Rest You Married gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I need you to send me that. I
Speaker 1: love it. For years, I kept doing I would do
Speaker 1: that with different artists every year. I was I would
Speaker 1: just pick the artist hit him up like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: went to a Christmas song together, you know, And I'll
Speaker 1: send them to music and then put some ship on
Speaker 1: it and we put it out. I think it with
Speaker 1: Dooby Powell, think with Kimberber did it with her a
Speaker 1: few different people. Just throw it out, throw it out
Speaker 1: there for you know, for fun. But that joint, the
Speaker 1: Nora Jones joint. So me and Nora went to jazz
Speaker 1: camp together in high school in eleventh grade. A matter
Speaker 1: of fact, I'm here, you have something to do with
Speaker 1: this too. I'm a connector. You're a connector. You don't
Speaker 1: even know it. So, uh, Me and Nora went to
Speaker 1: high school to jazz camp together in eleventh grade. So
Speaker 1: that's where I knew her from then. When I got
Speaker 1: to New York, I saw her maybe my freshman year
Speaker 1: at she was at college in the practice room at
Speaker 1: my college at the piano. I looked in there. I
Speaker 1: was like, Nora. I walked in there, was like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? She's like, She's like, oh, I'm working
Speaker 1: on the demo. I was like, oh dope. Next time
Speaker 1: I saw her was on TV when you damn Grammys.
Speaker 1: After that, After that, I sat in with the roots
Speaker 1: at Radio City. Remember you did the two nights at
Speaker 1: Radio City. Oh crap, I forgot. Yeah, yeah, dude, that
Speaker 1: was one of the when people ask me some of
Speaker 1: my top moments being on stage of crazy shit. That's right,
Speaker 1: and remember Yeah showed up. He didn't know that he
Speaker 1: could play Radio City musical dude, never forget that where yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'll never forget in the in is you like
Speaker 1: jay Z is here and we did up? We did up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we started playing it. He walked out and had back
Speaker 1: to the audience of the hoodie and the lights is off.
Speaker 1: We started playing that and no one knew he was
Speaker 1: coming when we started playing that. After the flying the
Speaker 1: lights flash, he pulled his hoodie up like this, still
Speaker 1: with his back to the audience and then uh, dude,
Speaker 1: when they when he turned to dude, the amount of
Speaker 1: like it was so crazy, bro, Like, I'll never forget
Speaker 1: that moment. I'll never forget that moment. And that's where
Speaker 1: I met Dave. That's where I met Chapelle too. I
Speaker 1: get piano listening back stage at that show. Oh so
Speaker 1: you're the one that taught him. After midnight, he's still
Speaker 1: playing that, still playing that ship he played he did
Speaker 1: a solo piano at My Blue residency last October. He
Speaker 1: went on stage by himself and played Round Midnight on
Speaker 1: my piano by himself and thank you and walked off
Speaker 1: playing that for like Twitter. He played that at the
Speaker 1: party like he's but anyway at that show and we're
Speaker 1: gonna see the show after it that after party thing
Speaker 1: upstairs or something like that. And I'm sitting on I'm
Speaker 1: sitting on next to you, talking on next somebody next
Speaker 1: to you, let me be one or two people over
Speaker 1: from you, and I reached for some ice and Nora
Speaker 1: was on the other side of you, and she reached
Speaker 1: for some ice. And that's what we were. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh ship, And then we got in. We changed numbers
Speaker 1: and that's how we just kept kept in connection, you know,
Speaker 1: from that that you know, but she killed that joint. Man.
Speaker 1: I love Nora. I love hearing Nora and other situations.
Speaker 1: Her voice is so dope, you know, really dope. Let
Speaker 1: it ride. Yeah, And Massino was sick. She didn't want
Speaker 1: to write it. I said it to Messina and I said,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know who was gonna sing it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I wrote the song and I was like
Speaker 1: I need some lyrics, and I sent him, said, hey,
Speaker 1: write something this and I need I need to get
Speaker 1: it done by this week. I was hoping to sing it,
Speaker 1: but write it, and she was like, I'm really sick.
Speaker 1: I don't feel I said, write the damn song. We'll see.
Speaker 1: She's like okay, and wrote that joint and send it
Speaker 1: to me the next day. Who have you yet to uh?
Speaker 1: I guess for phil bucket list wise? I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's everybody, but what close cause have you had
Speaker 1: with your projects that you didn't get a chance to
Speaker 1: work with it? Don't say her name. As I was
Speaker 1: asking this question, I'm like, oh god, no anything. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, oh you don't remember the Oh yeah, Mail
Speaker 1: l Aruf stop what she before? Salons Solans came through
Speaker 1: like a champ and so she was gonna do that
Speaker 1: the Little Dragon cover. Yeah, wow, what's she doing with
Speaker 1: the mail? We tried to make it. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't really work out for us, Okay, So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: look I have a song in my computer. I did
Speaker 1: a song to the Baker. Was yo? Was it for
Speaker 1: the Blue Note album that like never came Yes? Because yeah,
Speaker 1: she did a cover of Lately by Tyrese, which on
Speaker 1: paper sounds in wait what bro you never Anita Baker
Speaker 1: covered Lately by Tyrese and it is fucking amazing. Nigga,
Speaker 1: she bodied that ship. Oh, It's like it's the only
Speaker 1: it's like one of her only song if it's still
Speaker 1: on because you're a none of her ship on streaming.
Speaker 1: It's like one of the only joints of hers that's
Speaker 1: like on streaming services that came out. That song came out,
Speaker 1: that song came out, that came out. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: she bodied that ship. Bro. I like, I was like
Speaker 1: Lately she covered Lately, Yeah, no, I was. It happened
Speaker 1: because we're both on Blue at the same time and
Speaker 1: Don Was was trying to hook us up because like
Speaker 1: he also hooked me up with Shaka Khan. I was,
Speaker 1: I produced a half of record, have four songs on Shaka.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a whole We went into do a
Speaker 1: whole album because he gave her Black Radio. It was like,
Speaker 1: just check this guy out to do your album because
Speaker 1: she was gonna do a record Blue Note, So she's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I love it. I met up with
Speaker 1: her Boom boom. We went and did a week in
Speaker 1: l A and did like four or five songs, and
Speaker 1: then her deal with Blue Note went some went left,
Speaker 1: So I got five songs of Shock in my computer
Speaker 1: that I don't know I was ever gonna come out.
Speaker 1: But with Anita Um, she was working finishing that album.
Speaker 1: She was finishing it up, and I tweeted I was
Speaker 1: landing in l A. I'll never forget it. I tweeted,
Speaker 1: I'm in l A. Blah blah blah blah. She tweeted me, Oh,
Speaker 1: come by the studio. I was like, what I did.
Speaker 1: They're like, I need, like, yeah, come by the studio
Speaker 1: and listen to some of the stuff I've been doing.
Speaker 1: Her son is a DJ. He goes to he at
Speaker 1: the time. He's like going to Berkeley. He's a big
Speaker 1: fan of mine. So you know that helps, you know,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I went by the studio.
Speaker 1: She played me the album and she's like, what do
Speaker 1: you think? And I even fixed some stuff for keyboard
Speaker 1: parts and some stuff. She's like, you know, did some
Speaker 1: things on there. She was like, Man, if I would
Speaker 1: have known you were coming to town, I would have
Speaker 1: did a song with you. I said, don't play. I
Speaker 1: saw I write a song right now, right now, right now.
Speaker 1: She was like, I mean, but I gotta turn in
Speaker 1: this album in two day. I was like, I need yeah. Bro. Look,
Speaker 1: first of all, when I walked to the studio, she
Speaker 1: was making ribs. Let's just talk about this for a second.
Speaker 1: The blackness units, the vocal booth was next to the kitchen.
Speaker 1: It's the same studio, same studio, same studio. She did
Speaker 1: Angel Lynn, same studio, all of the same one. Because
Speaker 1: that's that's what that's well back then when I did
Speaker 1: that song, that was three years ago. When I did
Speaker 1: that song. When I did that, yes, so she had
Speaker 1: an oven miss and everything. You're hungry. I'm I'm making
Speaker 1: some ribs. I'm like, what ribs? Does it get me better?
Speaker 1: I need? The Baker offered me ribs in the studio
Speaker 1: she did angel I'm good so anyway, uh, but she
Speaker 1: said that. I was like, Nina, I'm gonna write something
Speaker 1: for you right now. I literally went to the piano.
Speaker 1: I swear the guy. I wrote some ship like I
Speaker 1: live and breathe me. The Baker like, giving you the
Speaker 1: best that I got. It's one reason. That's one reason
Speaker 1: between give me you the best that I got. Between
Speaker 1: that my moms people. Look. I mean it was like thrillers.
Speaker 1: So it's like you can't even you need the fans.
Speaker 1: I always want to outdo someone by letting you know
Speaker 1: that compositions is your record. That's the one man ship.
Speaker 1: That was a motherfucker. Look between that and and Luther
Speaker 1: Van Drass albums nottt Adelaide Jr. Those were those sounds.
Speaker 1: Maybe want to play piano period like, because that's all
Speaker 1: we heard. I heard that in the house a lot. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I wrote the song like ten minutes. I went over
Speaker 1: Andre Harris's crib. I said, yo, I need you to
Speaker 1: put some ship on. Here's ford the baker. Dre was
Speaker 1: like cool, put drums, bass, guitar, did that. About the
Speaker 1: hour we called sir over. Sir came over to the
Speaker 1: crib and did his own ship and wrote the song,
Speaker 1: saying it down we can know. Heard the song that night.
Speaker 1: She learned it that night, came to the studio, sang
Speaker 1: it down to one take wow, and then said then
Speaker 1: said this to me. She said, only in my life
Speaker 1: three times has a song fit me like a tour
Speaker 1: a dress. This is the third dress. I don't know
Speaker 1: what that was was, Oh alright, oh, Houston represents. Yeah,
Speaker 1: anybody she likes that. I was like, so exactly that
Speaker 1: shoot popa to know that that um but yeah, she
Speaker 1: said that. She was like there was a thing that
Speaker 1: George Duke did for her, some kind of arrangement of something,
Speaker 1: and then I forget the other song, but she was like,
Speaker 1: this is the third she do. She literally sung it
Speaker 1: down one take. But what is out? Where is it now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: In my computer, in that computer and you're talking to
Speaker 1: us on computer. I'm talking that computer computer with Gmail
Speaker 1: on it, and that computer trying to think triangle six
Speaker 1: hours with my air drop. Okay, my dream I wanted.
Speaker 1: I'm going to hit it up because I wanted to.
Speaker 1: I want to see if I can use it for
Speaker 1: Black Radio three. That's what I wanted. Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to do it so bad. That's my hopes for George.
Speaker 1: You mentioned George do did you if you before he
Speaker 1: died at y'alliver hook up or dude opened up for
Speaker 1: George for like nine shows in Europe. He never remembered
Speaker 1: me after any of the shows. You know, people like
Speaker 1: that they off to that, you know, and this was
Speaker 1: back in like I don't know, oh oh, eight oh nine.
Speaker 1: You know, I was at like three years, so you know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't ship really, you know, so I'm not tripping
Speaker 1: because he's yours, do you know what I mean? But
Speaker 1: after each show in different cities, I'd be like, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: musr do, how are you doing? Man? He's like, hey,
Speaker 1: with that face you and I'll be like, I'm a
Speaker 1: robb I played key um Key's earlier, earlier before you
Speaker 1: start everything, and every every night, every night. But you
Speaker 1: know he ain't coming to the sound, you know, to
Speaker 1: the the shows before him, so you know. But then
Speaker 1: we finally got to connect in the real way at
Speaker 1: International Jazz Day, not that one I talked about, but
Speaker 1: before and it was in um Turkey and meet him
Speaker 1: and Herbie like got a chance to hang out and
Speaker 1: sit down and talk and you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: chop it up in that And that's in that situation
Speaker 1: he passed. He literally pass I'm not the period of them,
Speaker 1: but he literally passed a few bucks. Name that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know, I'm play keys. He knew I'm
Speaker 1: playing keys. That's the first I got. But then he
Speaker 1: passed a few a few days a few months later
Speaker 1: after that. All right, So who who is the the
Speaker 1: hero figure? All right, there you go. You know what
Speaker 1: you gonna say, or you're gonna say, Herbie comes to mind, Herbie,
Speaker 1: it's about to ask you what is it like? Because
Speaker 1: I mean the last show I went to yours, you
Speaker 1: did this whole thing. He was like, Oh, I'm about
Speaker 1: to go take a bathroom break, and he was I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have somebody feeling for me real quick. And it
Speaker 1: was Herbie hand talking. I was like, what does that
Speaker 1: feel like to be you and have that relationship with
Speaker 1: that man? Man, he's so awesome and he loves to
Speaker 1: he loves to be around because he you know, he
Speaker 1: got that from Miles. I think, you know, just like
Speaker 1: you know, want to soak up the younger energy and
Speaker 1: just be around that. Even that was him, that was
Speaker 1: always Sam. So yeah, that's my dude, man, Like I
Speaker 1: love Herbie. He's so open and cool. And he just
Speaker 1: pulls up like he always pulls up, pulls up to
Speaker 1: the shows, pulls up to my last record. He's on
Speaker 1: my last record, fuck your feelings, because I was. He
Speaker 1: just heard I was in the studio and just pulled up.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh ship, you know, okay, cool? And
Speaker 1: he pulled up into a fucking Hinson and I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: don't you hear you wanna no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know, pante just speaking to your point. Me and
Speaker 1: Herbie talked maybe two three weeks ago. He said, this
Speaker 1: is the longest time he's ever gone without touching his piano. Wow,
Speaker 1: he said, He's in the same funk. He was like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm not even I don't feel like you know, He's like,
Speaker 1: I've never gone seven months whereever longs a bit when
Speaker 1: I'm touching my piano. He's like, it's just sitting there.
Speaker 1: He's like he's just it's just sitting there, you know.
Speaker 1: You know, so like you gotta take a break, you
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta take a break and then come back
Speaker 1: to it. I was gonna to ask, I think it's
Speaker 1: different for keyboard players now because of the the advanced
Speaker 1: way that technology moves in your world. Were as at
Speaker 1: least with me personally, like I'm not too interested in
Speaker 1: you know, like new drums, and you know that the
Speaker 1: company always be like, you know, these are special trees
Speaker 1: that we used in Japan to make it, you know,
Speaker 1: And I always tell them like give me the trashy
Speaker 1: you need the high school set. It's all in your anyway.
Speaker 1: It's anyway right. So as far as being a are
Speaker 1: you a gear head or are you just using the
Speaker 1: same I am not. You know what, because when people
Speaker 1: were doing gear ship, I was just practicing being really
Speaker 1: good at the piano. You know what I'm saying. I've
Speaker 1: never because my whole thing was always acoustic piano. So
Speaker 1: that's been my thing for a social long time. You know,
Speaker 1: when I got signed a blue Note piano trio ship
Speaker 1: acoustic piano, it wasn't even a keyboard yet. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even using keyboards for a while. They're putting piano acoustic
Speaker 1: pianos and clubs for me because I didn't want to
Speaker 1: play jazz clubs anymore. I want to play cool ship,
Speaker 1: hip hop venues and ship like that. And I was
Speaker 1: trying to get pianos in there. So Stein would put
Speaker 1: pianos in there for me and ship, but a lot
Speaker 1: of times that sound would be sucked up. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: sound good, you know what I mean. And so I like, okay,
Speaker 1: let me get the key let me do the keyboard thing.
Speaker 1: But I've never really been a gearhead at all. People
Speaker 1: think I am for some reason. But to me it
Speaker 1: always seemed like I think that's the gearhead thing is
Speaker 1: more so for people who think of themselves as producers first,
Speaker 1: or you always kind of seem like a player, you know, primarily, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we need strings. I know a string player that can
Speaker 1: do the like what we did when we sucking did
Speaker 1: the twice you know, I'm here. Wasn't like y'all pull
Speaker 1: up some string sounds he called some cellos and violence,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, we know those guys.
Speaker 1: We don't need the patch. I know them. I'm always that,
Speaker 1: you know, and all the patches they're like, but it
Speaker 1: sounds real. This one sounds realer than that one. I
Speaker 1: was like, I know real people. Yeah, I know, I
Speaker 1: would imagine employed. That's dope. Yeah, And obviously obviously you
Speaker 1: got to tap into it a little bit because as
Speaker 1: you can't just get musicians like this anymore, especially now.
Speaker 1: So that's why now I've been even tap into it,
Speaker 1: tapping into just sounds and getting all the plug ins
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, even if even if it's for
Speaker 1: demo demo's sake, you know what I mean, I'll do
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But I'm just such a live person.
Speaker 1: That's just my thing, you know. I would imagine, like
Speaker 1: you know, I'll say, like maybe what Steve. Like once
Speaker 1: every four months, the rolling guy comes in with new
Speaker 1: toys and whatnot, and we're like, oh, it's just like
Speaker 1: Christmas all over again. Like I'm certain that every board
Speaker 1: making from Yamaha, like all these guys are, I wasn't
Speaker 1: try our product. Well here here's the thing though. I
Speaker 1: was on Yamaha for a long time, but they wasn't
Speaker 1: giving me that love you were talking about. I'm just
Speaker 1: like heya too, yeah, because I'm like, yo, why am
Speaker 1: I having to call the mdeed Icia keys to get
Speaker 1: to the head of Yamaha Keyboards. I'm actually a keyboard player,
Speaker 1: but I have R and B Grammys and hip I'm
Speaker 1: Grammy's this ship. I'm here. Hey, this works for you guys,
Speaker 1: you know. But the m d s of the people
Speaker 1: get those people get those looks, and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: but I'm an actual panel player, like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like I should get those looks, and I
Speaker 1: wasn't getting them. So I left and and I, like
Speaker 1: you said before, everybody else is like yo, for for
Speaker 1: years wanted me. So I'm on cork now, you know,
Speaker 1: and they treat me, they they're great. I have to
Speaker 1: stop them from giving me ship. You're right, I do, yeah,
Speaker 1: how many? Well, the thing is is that when keyboards
Speaker 1: are manufactured and they put all those patches inside of
Speaker 1: one thing, like does it matter how much product they make? Like,
Speaker 1: isn't it just the same version of basically? But for me,
Speaker 1: what interests interested me and keyboards initially two was because
Speaker 1: I started needing to use a keyboard on the road
Speaker 1: when I was playing my shows, and I needed something
Speaker 1: that felt good, that felt close to a piano as possible,
Speaker 1: and that sounded as close to the piano as possible.
Speaker 1: So that's what I became interested in plug ins and
Speaker 1: interested in different keyboards because you know, but so the
Speaker 1: one I have now, the one I used now, the Chronos,
Speaker 1: feels the best when it comes to have me having
Speaker 1: to get around like that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like really get around. So for me, it was always
Speaker 1: that what felt the best, you know, because in my
Speaker 1: my shows, Yeah, I use the piano when I was
Speaker 1: have a friend the Rhodes, and then I have something
Speaker 1: on top, you know, kind of like I have a
Speaker 1: smaller Chronos on top for my extra those sounds here
Speaker 1: and now. For for years I didn't have to do
Speaker 1: a lot of sounds because I had Casey Benjamin here
Speaker 1: a million sounds and this ship right right right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember we did that gig. It was a ruge.
Speaker 1: It wasn't Rugeles going he was I think you were
Speaker 1: playing you were you playing the lead, the Nord lead,
Speaker 1: the little red keyton Yeah, I think you're playing that
Speaker 1: at night and Casey had yeah, all yeah, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not really interested in a lot of sounds.
Speaker 1: I like piano. I like roads, like a few leads
Speaker 1: and a pattern right now and then. But I like
Speaker 1: to you know, I know those guys who are great
Speaker 1: at those sounds, and not even hire those guys to
Speaker 1: come through sounds. Hey, you want to make some sounds,
Speaker 1: you do that. It frees me up. It frees me
Speaker 1: up to just do what I want to do. You know, Hey,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask you about the Miles project
Speaker 1: that I was like honored fucking to be on, Like
Speaker 1: just to log into my ass cap and see a
Speaker 1: song and it's fine. Take COVID Miles Davis, like nigga,
Speaker 1: what know what I'm saying like for like, for real,
Speaker 1: for real, like so yeah, I mean I've told you
Speaker 1: this is a billion times. I just want saying for everybody, brother,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for sure. But um but now, man,
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, like, so when they give
Speaker 1: you just carte blanche and say all right, do whatever,
Speaker 1: how I guess how much of an undertaking is that
Speaker 1: and how involved is his family in that? And you
Speaker 1: know kind of you know, making sure that you know
Speaker 1: that ship has done tastefully or whatever, Like what was
Speaker 1: that process? Like, man, just doing that everything album? It
Speaker 1: actually was a nephew, right, yeah, that it was Vince,
Speaker 1: his nephew. And I've been on Vince for years and
Speaker 1: he's always he's a fan of the music, and he
Speaker 1: you know, he knows that I'm I shadow a lot
Speaker 1: of what Miles already did and I think like that
Speaker 1: and I look see what you know. So he hit
Speaker 1: me up about it. First. I was already doing the
Speaker 1: score for the movie. I was in the middle of that.
Speaker 1: I was already in the middle of the movie. And
Speaker 1: then Sony hit me up about doing that doing the
Speaker 1: because it was about to be his ninety birthday or something.
Speaker 1: I think at that time it's gonna be his ninetieth birthday.
Speaker 1: And they were like, want do a remix album, blah blah,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'll only do it if it's
Speaker 1: I don't want to do a remix album, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not interested in putting some Miles trumpets over hip hoppie,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like that's been done. I
Speaker 1: want to do that. I said, the only way I'll
Speaker 1: do it is if you let me in the vault
Speaker 1: and let me take what I want. And they were
Speaker 1: like okay, so they gave me eight hours was in
Speaker 1: the vault. Eight hours in the vault. I thought, you've
Speaker 1: been eight hours to do the album. I was like, God, damn, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: gave me eight hours at the vault. That's way too little,
Speaker 1: way too little. I took as much as I possibly
Speaker 1: could in that time because they didn't want to let
Speaker 1: me in the vaul originally you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But it was like a back and forth from my
Speaker 1: people there. People. Then if find like, okay, we'll give
Speaker 1: you eight hours, you know how much I'm unreleased. Miles
Speaker 1: was in there. I have a lot of ship What
Speaker 1: were they what? What? What were you taking right, How
Speaker 1: you doing well? What? What? What were you taking MP
Speaker 1: three's tapes? What are you talking about? No? MP three Ship?
Speaker 1: Yeah I did. I brought my hard drive in and
Speaker 1: they were just like, take what you want? What do
Speaker 1: you want to pull up? Now? What? I'll be gonna
Speaker 1: pull up now? But you know something, some stuff digitized yea.
Speaker 1: Some stuff was to track what you can't do much with.
Speaker 1: But then they had ship that was like eight tracks
Speaker 1: and person out teal. I got so much. I got yeah,
Speaker 1: I got that, got him turn right, I got him
Speaker 1: talking ship cussing out talking to Ron Carter when he
Speaker 1: was trying to learn from them jazz dance. I wait,
Speaker 1: did I share this previously? On another I found out
Speaker 1: something that I don't think the jazz world is aware of.
Speaker 1: I was recently told by a lot of JA I
Speaker 1: had to ask at least six of them. I did
Speaker 1: not realize that Ron Carter does not know how to
Speaker 1: solo good. So someone someone brought this up to me
Speaker 1: when I was asking my, my, my, other, my older
Speaker 1: jazz heads about stuff, and to them, they're baffled that
Speaker 1: one of the most iconic hip hop samples and they're
Speaker 1: referencing um the McCoy tyner um sample for the Choices
Speaker 1: Yours with Ron Carter and Ron Carters on base doing that,
Speaker 1: and I guess the the whole thing is that they're
Speaker 1: laughing at the irony that the world's worst soloists. And
Speaker 1: I was like, blasphemy right now, They're like, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Ron's a perfect foundation for music. But if you notice
Speaker 1: he Miles never gave him a solo or any of
Speaker 1: his records. And I was like, I don't believe it's ship.
Speaker 1: And then I went back and for a whole month
Speaker 1: listen to every one Miles Davis. Couldn't find one. There's anything.
Speaker 1: It was just just walking. So if there was one,
Speaker 1: it was just like he was there just as foundations.
Speaker 1: And then when I was like, wait a minute, why
Speaker 1: is that so? Because Ron Carter is just like he's like, no,
Speaker 1: this is y'all fault is, that's tribes, fault y'all may
Speaker 1: y'all may be worst and Miles staveens Arsenal King and
Speaker 1: I'm like this is for me. But I didn't realize,
Speaker 1: like how do you judge? Maybe I don't know, Like
Speaker 1: how do you know if a cat is real or not?
Speaker 1: Well that's it depends on the instrument, because the reality
Speaker 1: is no, most people don't want to hear based solo anyway,
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you well McBride. You went to school
Speaker 1: with the most incredible based soloists in the history of
Speaker 1: jazz music, so you have a different outlook on it,
Speaker 1: but most people don't want That's when you go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom, man all that that's the joke. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I acknowed. I believe that Chris is I mean next
Speaker 1: to Mingus Like, I feel like Chris is the god
Speaker 1: of jazz base. So maybe I'm spoiled, but period, there
Speaker 1: has no never been a soloist like Christian McBride. That's
Speaker 1: not even that's not even up for debate. There's not
Speaker 1: one person that's even close to it. Jazz based soloists
Speaker 1: like McBride is. No one gets around like that. No
Speaker 1: bass player makes other instruments scared to play after them.
Speaker 1: Christian McBride when they solo. I've had this conversation with
Speaker 1: all everybody. He's the only bass player that when he solos,
Speaker 1: you're like, funk, what I'm about? What am I gonna play?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like most based most basicists
Speaker 1: stay in their base range and they don't have vocabulary.
Speaker 1: Because you don't, you don't get to work out as much,
Speaker 1: you don't get the sold as much. You have the
Speaker 1: one based solo in a set at best. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. For everybody else, that's what you do.
Speaker 1: You just so without you, without you throwing your contemporaries
Speaker 1: under or your idols under. Yeah, but I always want
Speaker 1: to like and this is where because comedians have a
Speaker 1: whole another standard. I guess I have a you know,
Speaker 1: like when I criticize Kanye's patches, yeah, you know, his
Speaker 1: drum patches or whatever. And even Kanye him something now
Speaker 1: I feel like the optimistic he'll tell you. But it's
Speaker 1: just like you know, I hear people just dismiss it
Speaker 1: as like, oh you have like dog withinsile ears, like
Speaker 1: you hear something that we can't hear. But you know,
Speaker 1: like when I hear a producer, I could tell like
Speaker 1: based on there, you know, the way they they chopped
Speaker 1: their their patches and what they're using their arrangement and
Speaker 1: their tone and all that stuff. You know, stuff that
Speaker 1: I can hear that the average person can't hear. But yeah,
Speaker 1: how do you know, like my dad would know how
Speaker 1: good a musician was based on how they play ballot.
Speaker 1: He bade them play a ballot, and he was like,
Speaker 1: I can instantly tell who is good and who's not
Speaker 1: good when you play when you give them the easiest
Speaker 1: ship in the world to play and they fall apart
Speaker 1: in front of me. So yeah, I know that's that's
Speaker 1: a good one too, Especially the piano player. When you
Speaker 1: play a ballot, you're exposed because that's it's really about
Speaker 1: your touch and then space there. So what how much
Speaker 1: knowledge do you have to fill up that space? What
Speaker 1: what can you do to fill up that space? A
Speaker 1: lot of people feel like and be tasteful about it.
Speaker 1: A lot of people feel like, especially piano players, they
Speaker 1: feel like when I go to ship like nam or
Speaker 1: stuff like, that's a million piano players. Everybody's trying to play.
Speaker 1: I went on. I went twice in my life. I
Speaker 1: had to go over last I did a thing for
Speaker 1: cored just read recently. I did a show there for
Speaker 1: cored and so it's, yeah, you already know. Anyway, everybody
Speaker 1: wants to play the fastest thing they possibly can, giant
Speaker 1: steps or something like that. And then when you play
Speaker 1: fast you don't have to have touch. It's not about touch.
Speaker 1: It's not about this, not about that, and they go
Speaker 1: by so fashion. I paying attention. But with piano players,
Speaker 1: you can, like I can sit down, I can see
Speaker 1: a piano players sit down and in five seconds I
Speaker 1: can know what I'm about to hear. Sometimes I can
Speaker 1: do it just by your posture and what you how
Speaker 1: you hold your hands. A lot of times I can tell, okay,
Speaker 1: you actually don't play jazz. You have to play church organ,
Speaker 1: but you're playing piano today. Like for instance, you see
Speaker 1: me play Oregan, you think I don't play keys because
Speaker 1: I suck at Oregon. I know real order. I know
Speaker 1: Sudrick Mitchell, of Corey Henry and James Poison, these kind
Speaker 1: of cats. I'm not an Oregon players in the technique.
Speaker 1: So that Corey does like that, you would have to
Speaker 1: practice a lot to get to that. When he plays chords,
Speaker 1: not lines is different like lines and on Oregon are
Speaker 1: easy because the keys the plastic and there's no weight.
Speaker 1: A real piano has weight, so you can when you
Speaker 1: can tell somebody's real chops when the play a piano,
Speaker 1: because that's when the weights there. You know what I mean, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're slow on Oregan, you're I can't help you
Speaker 1: because it's a plastic key. You're just supposed to be fast,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But Corey, Yeah, any Oregon
Speaker 1: player that's really good moving from chord to chord. It's
Speaker 1: a fucking spider technique. Like everything has to be connected,
Speaker 1: and you voice things different because you're used to having
Speaker 1: bass pedals, so your voicing is up here are different.
Speaker 1: Piano players are not used to having bass pedals with
Speaker 1: the bass here, so our our voices are different. To
Speaker 1: make it full, because we have to make a fool here.
Speaker 1: Oregan players have the pedals, so they're they're just there.
Speaker 1: The chords, the structure of the cord and stuff be
Speaker 1: like what the hell you know? So immediately you can
Speaker 1: tell what that somebody plays by like sitting sitting down,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And yeah, and the vocat
Speaker 1: there is super easy to tell immediately. You know that
Speaker 1: players is another thing too, like I know, like that's
Speaker 1: a whole another thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody that plays
Speaker 1: piano can't play roles and vice versa, and like all
Speaker 1: those different touches and different vibes and like, so what's
Speaker 1: your accordion game like I'm crazy on the courting. I'm
Speaker 1: crazy on the courting, depends on what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Gotta play. I do know one that's amazing though. I
Speaker 1: used to see him with Jeff Tain Watts on Monday
Speaker 1: Nights at the Z Bar years ago. Really according and tame.
Speaker 1: He was smashing bro Wait a minute for the guy,
Speaker 1: how did How does it feel to be the person
Speaker 1: that got Malcolm and Jamarro Warner his first gram? What's funny?
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy about that? Though? That wasn't supposed
Speaker 1: to have Most of my stuff in Black Radio. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you everybody all the time. It's like, whenever I
Speaker 1: make an album, the universe is always a co producer
Speaker 1: because it never goes how I wanted to go all
Speaker 1: the way. And I know that. I know that going
Speaker 1: in and I'm okay with it because great things, better things,
Speaker 1: because have happened, because the universe is like, look, nigga,
Speaker 1: this is what's gonna happen, So sure this can't do
Speaker 1: it about it? So when I did the song that
Speaker 1: Jesus Chris of America, it was it was in and
Speaker 1: and Oh to the Children of the Sandy Hi tragedy.
Speaker 1: That morning of the actual tragedy, I was doing it
Speaker 1: Stevie Tribute I Believe I'm here. You came and sat in.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that moment that day or the next day, we
Speaker 1: did two nights at Harlem stage of a Stevie won
Speaker 1: the tribute. Damn man, I needs you around just to
Speaker 1: remind me of Ship. Yes, yes, and you can and
Speaker 1: and I mere came by. It might have been those
Speaker 1: two nights. The first night was of that day that
Speaker 1: that tragedy happened, and another night and you came. One
Speaker 1: of those nights, I can't remember which one. And that
Speaker 1: was my first time doing that arrangement of Jesus Chrisen
Speaker 1: of America with Laila for for for for Them. And
Speaker 1: it was that that day that happened. I woke up
Speaker 1: and my good friend Jimmy, Jimmy Green, his daughter was
Speaker 1: killed in that m was the first Jimmy. She was
Speaker 1: the first grade on the show a few times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was the first grade. And so that sucked me
Speaker 1: up because I have at this point, I have a son,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like, oh, Ship, she
Speaker 1: hits you harder when you have kids. Things that happened
Speaker 1: with kids. If you don't have kids, it's one thing.
Speaker 1: We Once you have a kid, it's oh no, I
Speaker 1: can't even watch movies the same. You know, when you
Speaker 1: have a kid, everything different, like oh ship. So anyway,
Speaker 1: fast forward, when black Radio time came around, I told Layla, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to do Jesus was in America. You know.
Speaker 1: She's like okay. She came in and as usual as
Speaker 1: she did for the shaw Day song Cherish today was
Speaker 1: one take. She was reading the lyrics on her phone.
Speaker 1: It was actually it was the sound check. She was
Speaker 1: right beforehand. She said Mike check one to Mike check
Speaker 1: one too. That's why I faded it in because right
Speaker 1: before that she was checking the mic and that take
Speaker 1: you here is the sound check. So when she finished,
Speaker 1: she was like, okay, I'm ready. I was like, thanks,
Speaker 1: We're good. No, that was it. That was it. She
Speaker 1: had the same thing for Judicus. She's in America. Jesus
Speaker 1: chose in America. She came in, did that ship one time,
Speaker 1: one take. I don't have bonus tracks of Laila. I
Speaker 1: don't have bonus because she just doesn't want to take
Speaker 1: and I'm good, and I'm like, I'm good. And anyway,
Speaker 1: we did the song, and in my mind, I was
Speaker 1: gonna get Jimmy Green to do a poem for his
Speaker 1: daughter in that song, you know, in the actual song.
Speaker 1: And so I was reaching out to him and and
Speaker 1: you know, trying to see if you want to do it.
Speaker 1: And my other friend who was really close to the otis,
Speaker 1: was like, man, there's not a good time for Jimmy,
Speaker 1: you know, blah blah blah. So he couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: Malcolm and hit me and like, yo, I want to
Speaker 1: come hang out at the studio next time to the studio.
Speaker 1: So I hit Malcolm like, yo, well come hang out
Speaker 1: the studio. I'm doing some mixing some songs. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And we started mixing Jesus to in America. And I
Speaker 1: told him I was I was trying to get a
Speaker 1: poem on here. He was like, dude, I'm a poet.
Speaker 1: I was like, I forgot about that. He was like,
Speaker 1: he was like, bro, give me a stab at it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'll go rack something right now. Give me
Speaker 1: stab You don't have to use it if you don't
Speaker 1: want it. He went to the We're in We're in
Speaker 1: the Westlake. He went upstairs, took it like an hour,
Speaker 1: wrote it, came down, spit it, and then that was it.
Speaker 1: That was it. Surprise Yeah, yeah, bro, But a lot
Speaker 1: of those things were black Radio. That's how black radio
Speaker 1: actually album, the actual album. I canceled it like four
Speaker 1: times because it was too hard to make because nobody's
Speaker 1: schedule was lightning up. So I literally said, fuck it,
Speaker 1: we'll do it next year or something. Ship four times
Speaker 1: and then out of the blue, my manager hit me,
Speaker 1: I was on tour. I was a tour of my band,
Speaker 1: and my manager hit me like, I don't know what happened,
Speaker 1: but every guest is available next week in l A.
Speaker 1: And this is two one one. You know, everybody's available,
Speaker 1: And yeah, I was like, oh Ship, yeah, might have been.
Speaker 1: It might have been. It might have been everybody was
Speaker 1: februaries where you catch all year. Yeah. So I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: s okay. So I canceled my tour and I flew
Speaker 1: I flew in, and I flew right and I went
Speaker 1: right to, uh, what's the girl King's house? That was
Speaker 1: when when they had a little and irror you were
Speaker 1: like talking about King and Erica. My friend Megan, she
Speaker 1: was happy to kind of be managing them at the time,
Speaker 1: and she was, and I told her. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I want to get them on the record. I think
Speaker 1: that'd be dope. They got some fire now talking to
Speaker 1: the house moved up, and I went to their house
Speaker 1: and I to to meet them and to write the song.
Speaker 1: And they happen to have a washer and dryer, and
Speaker 1: I had just came from Europe. I would stretching the career.
Speaker 1: I got laundry. I was like, nigger. I wrote some
Speaker 1: cords and I said, okay, y'all finish it. I went
Speaker 1: to the laundry room and did laundry while they were
Speaker 1: writing a song. And in the middle of that, I
Speaker 1: had Loupe come over to their house to meet up
Speaker 1: with him to give him the idea I had for
Speaker 1: him to do what he's gonna do for the record.
Speaker 1: And then I had Most come over a little bit later.
Speaker 1: So they were freaking out. They're like, what, oh my god.
Speaker 1: You know, Most came over a little bit later so
Speaker 1: I can tell him, Hey, this is what I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about doing tomorrow when you come too, you know, blah blah.
Speaker 1: But that's and then literally that's just how that happened.
Speaker 1: That that that process was Black Radio one was a
Speaker 1: five was five days of recording, and then Black Radio
Speaker 1: two was like six days of recording. You know, man
Speaker 1: on Black Radio two, we have to ask a guest
Speaker 1: that we had earlier, but it wasn't music. Lord Jesus
Speaker 1: does music like oh yeah, oh, because well that's a
Speaker 1: real you don't like it what he says. So he
Speaker 1: has a he has a very complex relationship with his
Speaker 1: back catalog. When we had him on the show, we
Speaker 1: didn't specifically ask him about this song. So no, he
Speaker 1: didn't slander. No we didn't ask. But no, that ship
Speaker 1: as hard as fun. But like what was the was
Speaker 1: with like recording that did he into it or what
Speaker 1: was it he loved a matter of fact, the last
Speaker 1: time I saw him live, I just happened to be
Speaker 1: in Oakland and I saw he was at YO She's.
Speaker 1: I just walked in and he was playing all yeah,
Speaker 1: he was saying, so like he like like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's another universe. That's another universe thing. Because I flew
Speaker 1: to Atlanta. I did the music already. I flew to
Speaker 1: Atlanta so he could um write the song and we
Speaker 1: went to the studio and that's why he liked it.
Speaker 1: The first night, the first night we were in the studio,
Speaker 1: he came up with the hook and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: We had another night. So the next day, a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, you have something to do with this Fonte.
Speaker 1: We never talked about this because I'm tired of I think,
Speaker 1: I know, I think I know what this is. If
Speaker 1: it's okay, go ahead. I was in Atlanta and the
Speaker 1: next day you, for Exchange, was having a show at
Speaker 1: some festival or something in Atlanta. Yo, that's right, because
Speaker 1: we hit you. Yeah. You came on stage and I
Speaker 1: came up with hell yeah that she was dope, remember,
Speaker 1: and Chris set Michelle was there, and I think she
Speaker 1: played after you. Yeah she did. I stopped the seven.
Speaker 1: I didn't say first of all Radio, I love All
Speaker 1: because that was that was shout out to Jodine on
Speaker 1: that Jodin hit me. Jody, she hit me. She me
Speaker 1: because at the time our keyboard player and m D Zoe, Um,
Speaker 1: he had like another gig, he has something to do.
Speaker 1: It's like the only FI gig you ever ever missed
Speaker 1: and um and she was like yo, um Joe name
Speaker 1: was like yo. So Robert, would you mind if he
Speaker 1: just come up. I was like, Rob, She's like glass.
Speaker 1: But I was like hell, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I tell him to come on. So from that is
Speaker 1: it from sitting in with you, Chrisette saw I mean,
Speaker 1: it was like I saw her after that. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's up? What she was like? She was like, I
Speaker 1: was going to fly back to New York but it
Speaker 1: was a storm in New York really best her Sandy Hurricane,
Speaker 1: and she was like, I can't fly back to New York.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be here nextterday. What are you doing?
Speaker 1: And I was like, Yo, I'm in the studio, Come
Speaker 1: hang out, come by. She came by the studio and
Speaker 1: I handed her a pan in the pad that was
Speaker 1: like right the second verse. So that's literally how oh yeah.
Speaker 1: I came about the two her being on it because
Speaker 1: originally just music, but literally came about because I came
Speaker 1: to sit in with you and Chrisette was there. Watch
Speaker 1: I'm Black Radio too. The Bill Witherston. Bill Withers came
Speaker 1: to the so for a random for some random reason,
Speaker 1: Casey when we set up at the studio was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: let's do Let's play a lovely day for the sound check.
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, we literally never played Lovely Day.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well the changes again, you showed me
Speaker 1: the change. I'm like cool. So we just took did
Speaker 1: one one take down Lovely Day? Boom. That's literally what
Speaker 1: you hear on the album on the on the extended version.
Speaker 1: There was a black radio too. Then that's extended. So anyway,
Speaker 1: one of the guys there was like, yo, I know Bill,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call h and tell him you did that.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, right, cool, all Bill, everybody didn't
Speaker 1: call Bill. He called Bill put put me on the
Speaker 1: phone with him. He was like, yeah, young man, I
Speaker 1: wish I could come and hear your song, but you know,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling a little sick or whatever. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: no problem, honor, honor that you even took the time
Speaker 1: to talk whatever. Cool. So fast forward the next day,
Speaker 1: Uh who's that? I was gonna comment and uh, Macy
Speaker 1: Gray I think the next day and Ross was right
Speaker 1: in his rhyme and he ended up having like a um,
Speaker 1: right is black in one part? So we're just upstairs
Speaker 1: chilling kind of talking or whatever, and walk up up
Speaker 1: the stairs build with his walk there what dude. He
Speaker 1: walks in and he's like, let me hear this song.
Speaker 1: Oh sh okay. So we go to the downstairs and
Speaker 1: studio playing the song. He's like, yeah, I like the song,
Speaker 1: like what y'all did with it, and then talk to
Speaker 1: us for three hours straight. Stories just stories and stories
Speaker 1: and stories got all video story and story story from that.
Speaker 1: Rashi was sitting behind him, were the pinioning the pad,
Speaker 1: writing some of what Bill was writing, dance sing. So
Speaker 1: Rash's second verse on I stand Alone from Black Better
Speaker 1: Too is a lot of Bill Wither's words. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen to the right Yeah, listen. I hate
Speaker 1: we never got a chance to get him for the past. So, Rob,
Speaker 1: are there any like, is there any uh? I mean
Speaker 1: besides the eventual collaboration now you'll do with your son yep?
Speaker 1: Are there any bucket list projects that you you have
Speaker 1: yet to you know, are you going to do a
Speaker 1: free into classical music? Will you? You know what? The
Speaker 1: guitar and I don't know, Like I would like to
Speaker 1: hear a Robert Glass for take on like a Brazilian
Speaker 1: love affair? What's funny though, Lady cover app not covering that,
Speaker 1: but you know something and that you know your own ship.
Speaker 1: But just that like the movie, like the movie, um
Speaker 1: my lady is Cuban. Okay, So I went to Cuba, hits,
Speaker 1: we have a kid. What Cuba? She took me. I
Speaker 1: be to the Cuba, but she took me the Cuba
Speaker 1: in November to to see the vibe and go to
Speaker 1: see the music of the clubs and everything. It was
Speaker 1: so fucking inspiring, bro, Like the musicians out there are
Speaker 1: fucking incredible. You got to see like the whole aprol Cuba,
Speaker 1: all of it, all of it. And I even got
Speaker 1: cool with Cho because that I've been to Chis carib
Speaker 1: and we hung out and play and you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like crazy. So I want to do like
Speaker 1: a I definitely want to do a like a project
Speaker 1: like my ship meeting Cuba, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like red Hot back in the day, you know red Hot? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely want to do something like that where it
Speaker 1: brings that that's that sound together because so many people
Speaker 1: take from Cuban musicians, but you don't see the musicians
Speaker 1: because the motherfuckers can't come over here, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? You know, for me, that part so it's like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I'm learning so much from her about the culture and everything,
Speaker 1: and so it's so deep and rich and so dope,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, but also I thought
Speaker 1: a resilient one too, bro, Like I want to do
Speaker 1: something just like you know the chords in Brazilian music.
Speaker 1: You just be like, oh, you know, just over the
Speaker 1: so many Yeah, yeah, I have so many. But I
Speaker 1: have so many projects in my mind. That one that
Speaker 1: I want to I want to get done, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But you know, I definitely want to.
Speaker 1: I want to do an official like some ship, an
Speaker 1: official thing with the roots, a real one, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I've sat in so many years, but
Speaker 1: I attribute a lot of people asking me, like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like where my where my sensibilities
Speaker 1: to come from? Playing hip hop and and things like that.
Speaker 1: How I got into it because I wasn't. I wasn't
Speaker 1: playing hip hop when I was in Houston. I just
Speaker 1: started playing hip hop until I got to New York.
Speaker 1: And but I'll start taking me to your jam sessions.
Speaker 1: And my first time playing hip hop with the band
Speaker 1: was with you, you know what I mean. Like, so
Speaker 1: I got a chance to play with the Roots a
Speaker 1: lot which trained me in that in that world and
Speaker 1: to sit there and watch James Poison and you know,
Speaker 1: and watch June. You know what I mean, play, You
Speaker 1: know what I mean like dumb cats and and and
Speaker 1: mirror that that really train. That's part of my part
Speaker 1: of my whole ship. You see nothing better word, Let's
Speaker 1: do it. And I'm gonna be looking out to Glass.
Speaker 1: I don't be hitting you up. We're in the process.
Speaker 1: I was putting the buggy ere now since your l A.
Speaker 1: We're trying to figure out somehow trying to write a
Speaker 1: sketch for season two a Sherman Showcase, and we want
Speaker 1: we want you to be we want you to play
Speaker 1: the Loneliest month. Yeah, I just readyse Yo. Can I
Speaker 1: just a little suggestion for the mirror Robert Glass for thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you recall, Robert, but there was
Speaker 1: a Roots picnic about what was that side six years
Speaker 1: ago that you perform that in the morning. Okay, So
Speaker 1: you remember telling me. I remember I was talking to
Speaker 1: you and Marcia and I asked you, like, you know, what,
Speaker 1: what would you like as far as the ruse p
Speaker 1: He was like, I would really like to perform when
Speaker 1: he gets dark outside people, I was really there. I
Speaker 1: was just like for you to also take this moment
Speaker 1: like when the Bruce Pickton did come back outside. Look
Speaker 1: they were setting up tables and ship like people forming
Speaker 1: for the food truck man like Robert even I don't
Speaker 1: attend the first Routes Picknic, Guy Retead. It was really
Speaker 1: it was yeah, no, none of the cant even gotten
Speaker 1: none of them. So let everybody seems me like, yo,
Speaker 1: you're playing. I was like I played nine hours earlier,
Speaker 1: poor baby, no matter all there on Front Street. Because
Speaker 1: I'm like in a way too, I don't know how
Speaker 1: much he gotten a real live, great Black radio lives.
Speaker 1: I was just saying, when if we could like recreate
Speaker 1: something most were you not part of the um the
Speaker 1: joint I did with um Esperanza or was that not you? Okay,
Speaker 1: because you confirmed it? That was probably right. See I
Speaker 1: had on a good path. So back to the bus show.
Speaker 1: This is no, no, we're doing some boding. Come on,
Speaker 1: build this picnic hill in the studio first, and then
Speaker 1: well the next roots picnic and then by the office,
Speaker 1: so that way we can have a roots picnic. Oh
Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, exactly there's that that part part
Speaker 1: all right, well it probably be twenty two, but yes, whatever,
Speaker 1: I just I want Robert class in the Roots. I
Speaker 1: was just saying, let's do it, let's go, yo, I'm here.
Speaker 1: Whatever happened to that? Did that thing ever come out
Speaker 1: that we did in Dallas with the orchestra? You know what? Um,
Speaker 1: you know it's weird shockers portion made it on YouTube.
Speaker 1: I don't your Your guess is as good as my.
Speaker 1: I think whoever like underwrote that like put it out
Speaker 1: for quarantine entertainment. But that's a good question. No, it
Speaker 1: hasn't officially come out, but that I think I did
Speaker 1: a piece with Erica. Yeah, we did Erica you soccocon
Speaker 1: the Roots in the Dallas Uh yeah, yeah, we did
Speaker 1: some amazing stuff together. So with you know Dog, you
Speaker 1: know you're my favorite. Absolutely we're gonna do together. Let's go.
Speaker 1: Let us go, yo, Rob, We thank you for doing
Speaker 1: You're in two parter um. Yeah, so on behalf of Sugar,
Speaker 1: Steve Laya Fontigelo and uh I'm paid build somewhere. We
Speaker 1: also like to give a shout out to our our
Speaker 1: pals at mazda um and they're glorious. C X dirty. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you very much, Rob, We appreciate it. Congratulations again
Speaker 1: on you on your daughter, Man I have what what's
Speaker 1: her name? Her name is Lola? Lola? Oh yeah, honest man,
Speaker 1: Riley going up for you exactly. Sure. Alright, this is
Speaker 1: Quest Love and we'll see you on the next go
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