Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back. My name is Quest Love.
Speaker 1: Last week we had this long overdue talk with our friend,
Speaker 1: our love, Jill Scott. Coming up without further ado, Part
Speaker 1: two of our exciting interview on Quest Love Supreme, the
Speaker 1: One and Only Miss Jill Scott. It's like our first
Speaker 1: real extended conversation is lasted more than an hour in
Speaker 1: our twenty years of knowing each other. Now I understand
Speaker 1: why she ended up working with Jesse Jail. And because
Speaker 1: I was trying, I called. I called James Poyser because
Speaker 1: I knew him from the Jam sessions. I called every
Speaker 1: producer that I knew of, every studio that I knew of,
Speaker 1: to find out if they needed a writer or a singer.
Speaker 1: And for six months, nobody said anything. And then one day, um,
Speaker 1: I saw Jazzy Jeff on the street talking to Rich
Speaker 1: Medina and I was like, what's up. I'm just annoyed,
Speaker 1: you know, heading to the theater, go sweep floors and
Speaker 1: clean toward us. And I walked away and Jeff was like,
Speaker 1: who's that and and Rich told him that's Joe Scott.
Speaker 1: He was like that's Jill Scott. She calls my studio
Speaker 1: every day. And then um, they called me in to
Speaker 1: see if I could write a song, but I, you know,
Speaker 1: still lying. I was like, yeah, yeah, write song. And
Speaker 1: I tried it and it worked out. It just and
Speaker 1: it kept working out, and it just until album happened.
Speaker 1: What was the first song that you wrote? The first
Speaker 1: song I had a touch of jazz? The first song
Speaker 1: that I ever wrote. Well, the hook I ever wrote
Speaker 1: was you got me? Wait a minute, dog, That's what
Speaker 1: she said. She I know that, but I still was
Speaker 1: hoping to get clearing the that my song wasn't your
Speaker 1: first got but ess that's what you get. Are you serious?
Speaker 1: I am for all listening to this episode. That's a
Speaker 1: life lesson. You stepped into some ship, into an opportunity.
Speaker 1: I would have thought that by that point you, I mean,
Speaker 1: you handled it like you've been doing this ship for
Speaker 1: seven eight years. You I've never once heard you say
Speaker 1: this is the first song I ever wrote. Wait, doesn't
Speaker 1: feel to be Drake famous? Did you like your shout out? Yeah?
Speaker 1: This is this is his second one? Oh yeah wait
Speaker 1: we got to to Drake icons on a lot. What
Speaker 1: what did he say to you. I missed it. He
Speaker 1: talked about his question on Jill Scott on this new album. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen to that. All the kids are listening
Speaker 1: to it. It's very sweet, yo. But Joe once, you
Speaker 1: one of the one of the rare artists that actually
Speaker 1: got the whole touch of jazz involved in your record,
Speaker 1: because it's not like too many artists that have ever
Speaker 1: Everybody right, Yeah, what was it like at the point
Speaker 1: where they were together like magic magic? I missed that,
Speaker 1: I think. I mean, that's the thing I missed the most.
Speaker 1: We had so much fun. And every room they were working,
Speaker 1: every room, five rooms, four rooms or whatever it was
Speaker 1: at the time. You just walk out of one and
Speaker 1: go into the next a totally different energy, and then
Speaker 1: you go in the next room and laugh hysterically. The Doll,
Speaker 1: of course, was hilarious and still is. And Andre is
Speaker 1: learning how to play the guitar at the time, and
Speaker 1: Keith is straight out of church, so all of his
Speaker 1: stuff everything, and he puts his fingers to on the keys.
Speaker 1: It just feels like like old soul because his the
Speaker 1: church that he was in his father as a pastor,
Speaker 1: and it just felt old and enrich and everything. It was.
Speaker 1: We had fun. We didn't have any money. We shared
Speaker 1: cheese steaks, we cut out, cut out the McDonald's bags
Speaker 1: to to go to great not great adventures all road.
Speaker 1: In Drey's car it had a hole in the floor
Speaker 1: if he sat in the front seat, not fall asleep
Speaker 1: and let your feet fall in the hole because it
Speaker 1: was a wrap wrap. We were broke and it was
Speaker 1: fun and it was probably still the best time I
Speaker 1: ever had work. You were working on the album or
Speaker 1: what would become the album. This was before Hidden Beach
Speaker 1: even came into the picture. Yeah. I had been calling
Speaker 1: Jeff and finally he'd seen me and he said, okay,
Speaker 1: you can come in. I called again and said why
Speaker 1: did you come down? And none of the guys wanted
Speaker 1: to give me any music, So I kind of hung around,
Speaker 1: stood around, hung around us. Well do you have anything
Speaker 1: that you you know, that I could take? And they
Speaker 1: were like, oh no, no, we're working with Will Smooth,
Speaker 1: you know. And I was like, uh, well, the studio.
Speaker 1: I gotta find a way to come back here. You know,
Speaker 1: the lobby, the wood is exposed. Can I staying in
Speaker 1: polyer thing the lobby? So to look very serious, and
Speaker 1: Jeff was like, oh, that would look nice, and I said, well,
Speaker 1: you know, can I do it? And he was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll give you. You know, I'll give you
Speaker 1: money for supplies. And I stayed in polyer thing the
Speaker 1: lobby and was going on in the other rooms, and
Speaker 1: you know, they would come out and lead a door
Speaker 1: open and let me hear sometimes or I would you know,
Speaker 1: go in for a minute and to sell I like that.
Speaker 1: And then eventually they gave me a tape and they
Speaker 1: had seven songs on them, and those seven songs ended
Speaker 1: up being on who is Jill Scott? And the Rain
Speaker 1: was after that? Right, I'm sorry, you said, Will Smith.
Speaker 1: So I just automatically went to the rain. It happened
Speaker 1: later after after they let's start letting me right and
Speaker 1: then uh sing because I had to let him know.
Speaker 1: I wasn't planning on singing, but I had to let
Speaker 1: him know how it went. And they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: that was that was good? Wait minute you sing? I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, Joe was be ready in one of
Speaker 1: them seven songs. Um, be ready came later? Okay, be
Speaker 1: Ready came later. I love that song. But that's the
Speaker 1: most amazing story I've ever heard one thing we never
Speaker 1: um thought about, like your voice? How did you develop
Speaker 1: your voice? You said you didn't like really sing in
Speaker 1: choirs or church or whatever. How did you develop your style?
Speaker 1: I did sing um it at girls High, but we
Speaker 1: sang classical music primarily, and that just it just felt
Speaker 1: nice to me. And then they sent me on some
Speaker 1: school trip and I saw Kathleen Battle sing and was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I didn't even know there was a
Speaker 1: such thing as a black opera singer, like this is dope.
Speaker 1: And then mostly honestly, I just started being a mimic.
Speaker 1: I mimicked uh Anita Baker, I mimicked Phillis him in
Speaker 1: Kathleen Battle, mimic her that, I think. I think that's
Speaker 1: just where it started. You know, I didn't have any
Speaker 1: plans to to sing at all. I'm still amazed. I'm
Speaker 1: still like, what do you want me to? What? Al Right? Okay?
Speaker 1: So yeah, Jeffy he said the same thing about He said,
Speaker 1: like when y'all first started working that, and you can,
Speaker 1: you know, tell me if it's He was saying that
Speaker 1: they kind of had to convince you, I guess, to sing,
Speaker 1: like you know, they were more so interested in doing
Speaker 1: the poetry, but he was like, yo, what the hell, Like, no,
Speaker 1: you need to do that ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He was kind of pushing you to do it. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He was definitely a motivating for us. And then I
Speaker 1: think when I when I started singing in front of people,
Speaker 1: this was before that. I mean yeah, this was before
Speaker 1: hit a Touch of Jazz or Hidden Beatch or any
Speaker 1: of that. Richmond, Dina and I we were sitting outside
Speaker 1: my house in Norcelly and things had gone real bad.
Speaker 1: I knew all the drunk there was a knew all
Speaker 1: the crack kids. Nobody ever bothered me. You know, somebody
Speaker 1: would like try to run up on me or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then they've seen me like oh hey hey, hey
Speaker 1: hey Jill. And if they were real hot to be
Speaker 1: like Jill, Jill, you know right, you know, they gut
Speaker 1: to give you a double do. That's right, right, what's
Speaker 1: up here? Mirror? Then some guy pulled up on us
Speaker 1: and tried to rob us sitting in front of my
Speaker 1: house and shot at us. Actually Richard pulled off and
Speaker 1: the guy shot at us, and everything I think was different.
Speaker 1: We had a poetry reading the next day and I
Speaker 1: went to it in my pajamas because I couldn't figure
Speaker 1: out how to put clothes on. Like, my safety was gone.
Speaker 1: Everything I knew that was my own, this is my hood,
Speaker 1: these are my crack kids, this is my drug dealers,
Speaker 1: this is my block. You know, I'm safe was gone.
Speaker 1: And I instead of writing or reciting the poem I
Speaker 1: had written, I just started singing. And that was That
Speaker 1: was the beginning. Must have been too, No, couldn't have
Speaker 1: been two thousand, probably nine, eight nineties, yeah, probably, And
Speaker 1: that's when I was like, I think I could do this.
Speaker 1: You know, I probably could do this. I'll just try
Speaker 1: to be a writer because Lord knows, I don't want
Speaker 1: to be famous. Wow. And so what was that like? Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, there's a question I had about your plot.
Speaker 1: The house that the video to long walk is connected to.
Speaker 1: Is that your childhood home? Yes, And the same house
Speaker 1: is getting in the way you're just sitting in front.
Speaker 1: The one that I came out of for for getting
Speaker 1: in the way is across the street from my house.
Speaker 1: I passed my house right and the one um that
Speaker 1: I was sitting on the steps for a long walk,
Speaker 1: that's a neighbor's I gotta say uh, the intro to
Speaker 1: Long Walk not fully strong. The intro well, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: I don't even mean the video. Of course the video
Speaker 1: too because you're smiling all that stuff, but that that
Speaker 1: the ten seconds, the first fifteen seconds of long Walk,
Speaker 1: the song, it's probably like I have like my top
Speaker 1: five half the adrenaline moments, like things I have to
Speaker 1: hear if I need to like get any mood of
Speaker 1: happiness or whatever. Long Walk and Herb Albert's Route one
Speaker 1: on one or those two songs, which is we don't
Speaker 1: look up Herb Albert's. People associated that with the Dentist
Speaker 1: Office happy song. But yeah, man, it's something that like,
Speaker 1: do you ever get tired of people's fandom of because
Speaker 1: I feel as though they don't give your entire catalog
Speaker 1: a fair shot, only because I think that sort of
Speaker 1: like your association with Whiz, I think the cinema, the
Speaker 1: sentimental attachment to discovering you as an artist, as a fan,
Speaker 1: discovering you as an artist, and what the soundtrack of
Speaker 1: that album for everyone in two thousand, like it was
Speaker 1: perfect because no one saw it coming, and nobody saw
Speaker 1: it coming like literally on I will say the soundtrack
Speaker 1: to the Voodoo tour was like just playing it every
Speaker 1: seven if I'm not playing it, Anthony Hamilton's playing in
Speaker 1: the back even the and you know, D'Angel is still retro,
Speaker 1: like he wouldn't dare listen to anything older than like
Speaker 1: thirty years Like even he's rocking that ship because no
Speaker 1: one is expecting it. Like how how was it the
Speaker 1: first go around in your taste of celebrity and your
Speaker 1: relationship with your family, your relationship with your friends, and
Speaker 1: I might have to move out of this neighborhood like separation?
Speaker 1: Can you come back? Is? What's Thanksgiving? Like? In Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: two thousand and one? Like what was it? What was
Speaker 1: it like the first year and a half that after
Speaker 1: that album came out? Well it, Um, I could say
Speaker 1: there were a lot more people at the family union
Speaker 1: then never showed up for sure. Who yeah, man, Um,
Speaker 1: I didn't expect anything, So I got way more than
Speaker 1: I expected because I wasn't expecting anything. But um, lizel
Speaker 1: and I were living together and uh and our little
Speaker 1: second floor walk up and people were riding by playing
Speaker 1: the music at three or four o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 1: you know, just the highest capacity, just so loud. And
Speaker 1: I first Honestly, I was blown I just was blown away.
Speaker 1: I didn't expect anything, so I was really um. I
Speaker 1: didn't know how to take it, didn't didn't know what
Speaker 1: to feel about it either. Oh, it just started to
Speaker 1: hurt and went way because people there were the presumption
Speaker 1: that they knew everything about me or who I was
Speaker 1: instead of just meeting me, and that hurt. It hurt me,
Speaker 1: like I've got I know her from this that she's
Speaker 1: like this. So she was like that, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm still growing, I'm still figuring it out. I I
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm out here trying to live and
Speaker 1: you still have And they gave you the earthy label too,
Speaker 1: which for us at black radio trying to play your radio,
Speaker 1: play your song, we've been trying to make people understand
Speaker 1: the difference in earthy and neo soul people and regular
Speaker 1: old folks, and the fact that they were regular old folks.
Speaker 1: She wrote a song about beating up bit as like
Speaker 1: why can't she be there's nothing conscious about this, but
Speaker 1: they put you in that bubble. Bubbles happened, you know.
Speaker 1: I didn't like that either. I just didn't like the
Speaker 1: world thinking that they knew who or what or why
Speaker 1: I was even here before I did. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: still figuring it out twenty years later. You know, who
Speaker 1: is Jill Scott? So much has changed, you know, it's
Speaker 1: way different than it was last year. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: a mother of a eleven year old. Now that's way
Speaker 1: different from chin. I don't care who you talk to.
Speaker 1: You taught, now, aren't you? They have to? You know,
Speaker 1: we're in the middle of a pandemic. What does that mean? Who? Who?
Speaker 1: Who do I become in the middle of a pandemic?
Speaker 1: Or who does anybody become? You know, I'm I still
Speaker 1: like simple things, no matter how fancy my life may appear.
Speaker 1: I still hug trees. I think they're the bomb. I
Speaker 1: do argument about you being earthy, but that's fine, that's
Speaker 1: what them. You know. I'm still very very simple in
Speaker 1: these ways, and I I treasured that about myself and
Speaker 1: I just take it all with with a grain of
Speaker 1: salt all the time, all the time. I don't need
Speaker 1: I don't I don't need the athlete so much. What
Speaker 1: I need is to be able to pay all my bills,
Speaker 1: and I need to be able to go on vacations
Speaker 1: and enjoy them. I need to be able to help
Speaker 1: my people where I can. I need to be able
Speaker 1: to not worry that I'm headed back where it came from,
Speaker 1: because I don't want to go. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be shot at. I don't I don't want to have
Speaker 1: to send off, you know, crackheads trying to shoot at me.
Speaker 1: I don't want that life. So you have nightmares of
Speaker 1: one day this could be over and I'll be back
Speaker 1: at blah blah blah. I have nightmares of not having
Speaker 1: food in the pantry. That is That's a big one.
Speaker 1: It comes from um quite some time, where neighbors Jehovah's
Speaker 1: witnesses particularly, we're coming by dropping off baskets of food
Speaker 1: because we didn't have any. And you know, it's not
Speaker 1: like I'm really pulling out of violin for sad songs.
Speaker 1: This is my existence, this is my life, and these
Speaker 1: are the things that keep me grounded. I know that
Speaker 1: it only takes one wrong phrase or one wrong song,
Speaker 1: or one wrong role or you know, to have to
Speaker 1: have a society cancel you or or or shoot you
Speaker 1: away and not value you know, what you bring to
Speaker 1: the table. I don't think that I'm the greatest singer.
Speaker 1: I think that I offer a lot of spirit. I
Speaker 1: think that would ever, Uh, if it's passion or lust,
Speaker 1: if it's if it's fear, or um, pain or or happiness, um,
Speaker 1: simple joys, whatever they may be, thought process. When I sing,
Speaker 1: you can hear that. And that's my gift. I'm able
Speaker 1: to convey emotions well. And I'm aware now you you
Speaker 1: do that well and you, um, I always want to
Speaker 1: tell you this, like you really played a big role,
Speaker 1: probably annoyingly um for me. I was doing a session
Speaker 1: with Jeff like some years ago, and um it was
Speaker 1: a little brother song and me pooh. We were driving
Speaker 1: up the Delaware and we had in our mind, okay,
Speaker 1: it's wrap the rap rap time. We're about to damn
Speaker 1: wrap this nig under the table, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And so we're just like, all right, just wrap the
Speaker 1: rap rap And so we get to the to the
Speaker 1: spot and Jeff is just playing like all these kind
Speaker 1: of R and B records, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and they were dope. I mean, the ship was dope,
Speaker 1: but it was not what we expected, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And so we ended up doing a song
Speaker 1: where pooh rhyme and I mean I ended up singing
Speaker 1: on it, and so I was just singing because Jeff
Speaker 1: had to flight and stuff, and so I'm just kind
Speaker 1: of cutting vocals, not really thinking about it. And so
Speaker 1: I came out the booth and I was like, Jeff
Speaker 1: had this look on his face. I thought I funked up.
Speaker 1: I said, man, what's wrong? He was like, man, you
Speaker 1: need to be singing all this time. You need to
Speaker 1: be singing. I was like, Jeff, Dude, I just kind
Speaker 1: of did it because that's what we had. I don't
Speaker 1: really want to do it. He was like, man, you
Speaker 1: know who the same you know who else said that?
Speaker 1: You know who else said that same ship. I was like,
Speaker 1: who he said? Jill? And I was like, damn, like
Speaker 1: word and he said at that time that he told me.
Speaker 1: He said, man, sometimes people can see things in you
Speaker 1: that you don't see in yourself. He was like, bro,
Speaker 1: you got something keep doing. And that's something that I
Speaker 1: always um. I always just want to share that with you.
Speaker 1: You know you really when I when I heard when
Speaker 1: when he heard when I heard him say that Jill
Speaker 1: Scott didn't think she was a good singer, I said,
Speaker 1: with nigga, God, damn, everybody musta say their voice then,
Speaker 1: because I love your voice, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: But that was that was really that was really inspiring
Speaker 1: to me. Jill. What is your preparation for acting and
Speaker 1: how different how does it differ to your preparation for
Speaker 1: singing and songwriting? Like what's your creative process? Are you meditation?
Speaker 1: Is it? Like? What's what's your creative approach to it?
Speaker 1: Probably terror is the first step for me, Like I
Speaker 1: just don't want to look up so bad. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be the weak link in the room. I
Speaker 1: don't that that's I just don't want that. What was
Speaker 1: the first one? Jail? Was it? Why did I get married? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And the first TV show was Girlfriends and Marv mar
Speaker 1: Brock i kill gave me an arc. She had never
Speaker 1: even seen me act before and gave me an ARC.
Speaker 1: And I was like, come on, God, like I'm just
Speaker 1: like out here blessed like crazy and just like ridiculous
Speaker 1: goodness gracious anyway, Um, how do I prepare like versus
Speaker 1: is terror? And then there's homework because so I could
Speaker 1: be prepared, I study a lot, a lot. I try
Speaker 1: to take walks where I can and be still where
Speaker 1: I can. And then I need to um move my body,
Speaker 1: you know, so that I could feel that person you
Speaker 1: know in me around me and then um, the famous
Speaker 1: line is to be that guy. That's it. Be that
Speaker 1: guy at all costs, whatever that means. Who challenge you
Speaker 1: the most in this acting journey? Like as far as
Speaker 1: like direction, Anthony Manuela he was he Um he directed
Speaker 1: the challenge and Mr ripley, okay, I think in the
Speaker 1: piano lesson Cold Mountain HBO serious correct. Yes. He auditioned
Speaker 1: me six times, yes, for hours. It was the most
Speaker 1: gruesome experience. At some point I was like, fuck you
Speaker 1: either you want me or you don't, Like I can't
Speaker 1: keep coming here, or I need you to come tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Come to New York tomorrow, dude, Like I have other
Speaker 1: things that I have to do. Seriously, you gotta know
Speaker 1: by now if you want me or not. And his
Speaker 1: auditions were brutal. Okay, say the lines, and now your
Speaker 1: your left rib is cracked. Okay say the lines, and
Speaker 1: now you have something stuck in your right eyelash. Go
Speaker 1: now say the lines and you'r you can't stop um,
Speaker 1: you can't stop drooling. Go. Wow, that sounds It was
Speaker 1: obstacle after obstacle after challenge after m I don't know
Speaker 1: what he was doing, but being Anthony Macguela, the man
Speaker 1: won like eight oscars exactly. And you were the first
Speaker 1: black woman to help to lead a HBO series. So ship, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna be Yeah, welcome in Front. I was.
Speaker 1: I was really hurt when I didn't win an in
Speaker 1: double a CP Image Award for that role. I was
Speaker 1: really hurt because I shot that ship. I was. I
Speaker 1: left there seven months pregnant. We worked in a hundred
Speaker 1: and seventeen degrees casually and on location in Botswana for
Speaker 1: seven months and yeah, three months the first time, four
Speaker 1: months the next time. And I was just like, I
Speaker 1: shot a show about Africa, you know, even though it's
Speaker 1: a fictional in Africa and you live at every birthday
Speaker 1: and now you're playing them where they usually play us exactly. Well,
Speaker 1: if they get the opportunity, which is a real trish
Speaker 1: to have that accent comfortably, we they I had was
Speaker 1: studying an hour day every day for two months and
Speaker 1: then um, when I got there, it was all wrong.
Speaker 1: They gave me a zim accent and not a Motswana accent.
Speaker 1: So I had to everything unlearned everything and relearn it
Speaker 1: real fast. And the Motowanna women, the elder women would
Speaker 1: sit around and if I got something wrong, they go yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's not the sound I wanted
Speaker 1: to hear. I did not want to let them down
Speaker 1: in any way. And then when I got stuff right,
Speaker 1: you hear them go my gang, you're a live for
Speaker 1: my gag. What happened? What happened with the show? Why
Speaker 1: did they do? Yes? He did? Yes, he did. I
Speaker 1: he was he was so brilliant, and I thought that
Speaker 1: he was a flirt. I didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 1: He's so touchy, like stop touching me all the time.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. And I smacked him because I
Speaker 1: was like, it's too much. I don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: And then his wife came and I had an opportunity
Speaker 1: to see them together and I realized, oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's not flirting. He's Italian. He's just he's just he's
Speaker 1: just loving an Italian. And then after that our relationship just,
Speaker 1: you know, flew. You know. He was brilliant. And it
Speaker 1: was Sydney Pollock who was the executive producer, and Harvey
Speaker 1: Weinstein was Tadi yeah, so, um, Sydney passed away first
Speaker 1: and then Anthony passed soon after. You know, I tried
Speaker 1: to get the show to continue, but um, nobody was
Speaker 1: really interested. I don't know. I thought it was because
Speaker 1: the show was too positive. You know, there wasn't a
Speaker 1: bunch of disease and and murder and um you know,
Speaker 1: war and and aids. You know, it's just people being
Speaker 1: people in Africa, you know what I'm saying. Like it was,
Speaker 1: it wasn't enough death and destruction, so you know, the
Speaker 1: sweethearted show couldn't continue. Are there any ideas that you
Speaker 1: would like to develop for future projects? Oh? Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: one like those. Um, but I've had my finger on
Speaker 1: one for quite some time after a few times trying
Speaker 1: to get somebody to pick it up. But it looks
Speaker 1: like I'm going to have to make a phone call
Speaker 1: to Yo ask and I'm I'm working on it now,
Speaker 1: and I'm it's the right thing to do with all
Speaker 1: my heart. It's the right thing to do. Wonderful story.
Speaker 1: How is it? What inlved me? She told me it's
Speaker 1: involving you. Because I'm going to call you and ask
Speaker 1: you for some money. I'm also going to call you
Speaker 1: and ask you for some insight. You know, she ain't
Speaker 1: calling me. I didn't know I started some trust for
Speaker 1: money or something like right now. I don't think I
Speaker 1: trust for my money. She wouldn't. It would be a
Speaker 1: special severs like, I don't know. It's a very special project.
Speaker 1: And I know that I'm going to um have to
Speaker 1: put in a lot of guts, a lot of guts.
Speaker 1: Mirror is ready? Is this? Is it TV? Is it movie? Like?
Speaker 1: What what kind of project? It's a film? It's film
Speaker 1: the film. Yeah, a mirror is ready. He's receiving well
Speaker 1: to these days. Look at he owes you for keeping
Speaker 1: you in Paris in the hotel leaving he left standing
Speaker 1: in a halfway house. They they was at the Rich
Speaker 1: Call and they had you in a looking to the ship.
Speaker 1: And you know he called for a year after that.
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm trying to tell you I was
Speaker 1: so scared. I was so scared. I was like, oh
Speaker 1: they for what he did to the cohone crush. It
Speaker 1: all works out. It really does. One thing I always
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you. Some of my favorite songs of
Speaker 1: yours are always just your short kind of interlude songs
Speaker 1: like Crown royal here my hear my call. I think
Speaker 1: it's the right. I just those are just gorgeous, sucking songs,
Speaker 1: like what's your thought process and just making them short
Speaker 1: versus like full you know, I guess verse, chorus, bridge,
Speaker 1: whatever kind of songs. I think when it's done is done.
Speaker 1: I just I just feel that way, like when it's done,
Speaker 1: it's done. Keep I could, you know, keep forcing the issue.
Speaker 1: But you know, when you bust a nuts, you didn't
Speaker 1: know you know necessary, you don't necessarily have to go
Speaker 1: back for more. It should be like that's what it was.
Speaker 1: Is it all right? Can I ask for hear my
Speaker 1: call specifically? Oh? Is yeah? That was you? That was
Speaker 1: your idea? Oh he was starting for critic? Ah, I
Speaker 1: get it. Is it still draining an emotional for you
Speaker 1: to sing it? Or do you have a she's out
Speaker 1: of my life relationship with it now where it's like
Speaker 1: you can phone it in if you want to, Like
Speaker 1: what if there's a night where you're just not in
Speaker 1: the mood to rock that song, but you know that
Speaker 1: there's expectations to or I've just never seen a song
Speaker 1: in which people are boo who crying anytime? And I'm
Speaker 1: seeing you probably like seven times yeah, in contact yea,
Speaker 1: and mostly in the back room now because I'm sorry
Speaker 1: about that. Sure that somehow they placed me like dead
Speaker 1: row front row center, like Jill's first Philly show. That's horrible.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, i'se No, I'm just saying I won't do
Speaker 1: that to you. I try to make sure that no. No.
Speaker 1: I went to the back road because it was like,
Speaker 1: you don't want to be in the front row center
Speaker 1: in front of you, and I was like, oh god,
Speaker 1: My point is, yeah, the reason why you're such an
Speaker 1: amazing performers because it's it's it's heartfelt, and it's believable
Speaker 1: and it's authentic. That song in particular, breaks people's hearts
Speaker 1: so much every time they hear it. Are there times
Speaker 1: where you're just like, Nope, no more, I'm not doing
Speaker 1: this anymore. Like smells like teen Spirit. They well, the
Speaker 1: audiences in Europe, they typically won't leave until I see it.
Speaker 1: They will not leave what I say, no matter how
Speaker 1: many lights come on, they will not waiting for it.
Speaker 1: And I did ridiculously. I could barely finish the damn
Speaker 1: you know, I go to the twy Why did you?
Speaker 1: Why did you write there? Why did you say that?
Speaker 1: Why damn it? And then record it and have the
Speaker 1: audacity to to put it on a project so other
Speaker 1: people can hear it. But I feel like that's the work.
Speaker 1: You know. You want people to smile randomly or you know,
Speaker 1: flirt or or be or feeling love, feel it, you know,
Speaker 1: and if you need to to to mourn something, there
Speaker 1: should be music for that too. There's music for cooking,
Speaker 1: this music for cleaning. You know, there's there's all this
Speaker 1: good music luckily for us. You know, humanity and music
Speaker 1: we're so connected. And I struggle with that. You know,
Speaker 1: I typically sobbed myself and then you know, it's a
Speaker 1: whole audience for tears and it just says what it is.
Speaker 1: And you know that means there's hugs to be given
Speaker 1: because I need to feel better and so to you.
Speaker 1: So you know, I typically come out and then you know,
Speaker 1: before COVID, you know we have each other. It's it's just,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not my favorite to do the sad songs,
Speaker 1: but I'm here for it. And apparently the audience came
Speaker 1: forward to man, I think it's well written. I have
Speaker 1: to give myself some credit on that. I think that
Speaker 1: my pen definitely poured out my heart at that time.
Speaker 1: Can you only sing your songs? You? You think I
Speaker 1: can't sing everybody's songs? No, I mean that song written
Speaker 1: by someone else. Yeah, I can sing a song written
Speaker 1: by somebody else for me if it's for you. Yeah, Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I I have a question. Okay, first, let me give
Speaker 1: your flowers for Rolling Hills. I love that song me
Speaker 1: to I hope that's one. Maybe it'll be one of
Speaker 1: the ones for versus you. Well, we'll see, but I
Speaker 1: love I love that song. I love that. It's so
Speaker 1: hard to choose because they're you know, they're asking me
Speaker 1: for twenty of my favorite songs, and I'm like, my
Speaker 1: my favorites are kind of obscure. You were like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, don't go on the danger zone, the danger zone,
Speaker 1: just the danger zone when when the artist picks out
Speaker 1: all these songs and don't realize that these have nothing
Speaker 1: to do with people love but the people, And then
Speaker 1: you realize the reason for the record label, you go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't have one of those. I'm just saying you
Speaker 1: and I all my masters are masters masters. Wow, dope,
Speaker 1: the question I had so hate on me Yeah, Forgod,
Speaker 1: shut up. We have confirmation, not at all the turmoil
Speaker 1: and danger I've brought to your life. Man, I'm not sorry.
Speaker 1: It's not true. It's not true at all. That was
Speaker 1: sing you that would be hilarious. It was if he's
Speaker 1: such a mild like no Seaton version, that would be hilarious,
Speaker 1: surviving weird Tom. I'm just I'm just joking. What was
Speaker 1: her guitar player's name? Were he? That was? Don't Dan
Speaker 1: was the guitar player? Wait, you're telling me she married Dan.
Speaker 1: She's just not married Dan. I believe you. Right now?
Speaker 1: Is in uh Brighton, Brighton, England. Last time I spoke
Speaker 1: to her, she was dating um. All right, who's saying
Speaker 1: that duet with Nana Cherry seven seconds? Uh? The African
Speaker 1: singer like Nina Cherry's last big hit in uh Uh
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying. Yeah, that was your character, your moaning.
Speaker 1: I didn't know you're speaking of tugs. That was amazing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was used to it. Yeah, she was
Speaker 1: dating him. I don't. I don't know. Like the last
Speaker 1: I heard, she was doing something with Spike, maybe a
Speaker 1: commercial with Spike. But I don't care who she's dating.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard from I haven't heard from New probably
Speaker 1: since Rich died. I talked to her. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: where's the Black Lily will out there? Now? Loved her?
Speaker 1: You know we need one. That was a great experience.
Speaker 1: Black Lily was awesome. Why are you saying we could
Speaker 1: black Lily. You don't just need to sign that says
Speaker 1: all egos at the door. All ego at the door
Speaker 1: saying can say everything and all egosine it'd be great, dude.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I fucking Tracy and New Tracy
Speaker 1: Mercedes like I see him all the time. It could happen,
Speaker 1: just so great. There's some Lilyites that, oh you know,
Speaker 1: they might wrap and now saying okay, all right, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'll just be throwing names out there. I'm
Speaker 1: a stop. Yeah, okay, Jasmine down though, I don't know
Speaker 1: so good. But we're talking about Black Lily. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Jasmine's Black Lily Asian
Speaker 1: for teen that's what black Lily Asian performing the Black Lie.
Speaker 1: They yeah, they would have once the like by the
Speaker 1: time the first draft of Black Lily went on to
Speaker 1: like get record deals and stuff, they were like the
Speaker 1: they were like it was like toy story. They were
Speaker 1: the broken toys left behind and they all grouped up
Speaker 1: superpowered and then became a monster. And I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: what the funk happened? Like they started kicking our ass.
Speaker 1: They were who you look forward to singing every week
Speaker 1: and next thing, you know, you're amazing. Yeah. They just
Speaker 1: to Kindred the family song. They're amazing. And they went
Speaker 1: to Hidden Beach they did I forgot. Yeah, So what
Speaker 1: happened with Hidden from your perspective, because just from a
Speaker 1: consumer side, they had you and like we were like, yes, Jill,
Speaker 1: like that was it was all Jilja Jill. Then they
Speaker 1: did the it was Brenda Russell they did that. They
Speaker 1: did Yeah, it was Paris Rain and then Valium yeah
Speaker 1: one through eight. Yeah, So like, what was your experience
Speaker 1: with them? How that relationship I guess kind of deteriorated
Speaker 1: on your side? I I did. I thought that they
Speaker 1: had some really good artists on their Hidden Kendred being
Speaker 1: one of them. They you know that's Kendred and they're
Speaker 1: so talented and the songwriting is so good and their
Speaker 1: stage performance is so amazing. Like you need to put
Speaker 1: more money into Kendred, but I didn't have a say
Speaker 1: in what Hidden Beach did because they're the label. I'm
Speaker 1: not the label, and um, I didn't like that. I
Speaker 1: didn't like that, and it doesn't feel good to me
Speaker 1: that I couldn't be of service in that way, you know.
Speaker 1: I I watched them sign a lot of artists and
Speaker 1: I was like, what are you doing? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: And I thought I thought that we had a friendship.
Speaker 1: I thought that we had this this family thing that
Speaker 1: was happening. So when I realized it was just business,
Speaker 1: you know, I was really disappointed. And then President Obama
Speaker 1: was working on being in office and everything was about
Speaker 1: the election, and they weren't being supportive and I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like they were helping me at all with radio UM.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize until later on how much, um, everything
Speaker 1: that occurred had to do with my effort. So, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm coming up with the album, I'm working out the images,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, handing out flaggers, I'm you know, I
Speaker 1: did a lot, coming up with every idea. I designed
Speaker 1: the videos. The first you know, three videos, I was like,
Speaker 1: this ain't what I did. I'm tired cause somebody else,
Speaker 1: you know, like I can't, I can't do it all
Speaker 1: and then you know, go to these I had pneumonia
Speaker 1: I think like three times in two years because I
Speaker 1: toured the first two years um without balance. That's one
Speaker 1: of the things like with young artists. I'm like, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: go out there and do the hustle, but you have
Speaker 1: to have a balance or you will lose your mind
Speaker 1: and you will lose your health. And the goal is longevity.
Speaker 1: It's Frankie Beverly, that Middler longevity out here, and that's
Speaker 1: what That's what I'm saying. That's what I want, that's
Speaker 1: what I want. And I thought I was killing myself
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, make it work for the label.
Speaker 1: And I was like, ah, so I left and you
Speaker 1: know that. I think the last number was like they
Speaker 1: tried to sing for like Rankunion, what under? On what
Speaker 1: grounds that I left that I was leaving and I
Speaker 1: had a couple of records to let the left on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I was like family, huh yeah, because I
Speaker 1: saw Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, Nico, let's talk about it. Okay,
Speaker 1: So that ship they put out the jail Scott when
Speaker 1: they starts and yeah, like what was I mean that
Speaker 1: felt kind of just as a fan, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: this feeling a little shady. But what was the story
Speaker 1: behind it? The albums that they put out, the Hidden
Speaker 1: Beach Records that they put out. It certainly didn't feel
Speaker 1: good to me. And it wasn't like I had any
Speaker 1: thing to say, you know, I had no say so
Speaker 1: in them, you know, so you know, moving on. So
Speaker 1: technically I'm just saying I just want to know I'm
Speaker 1: doing this right. So technically, if I'm a real Jill
Speaker 1: Scott fan, I buy up until the live album and
Speaker 1: then the rest of them. Okay, all right, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I like anyway, I like, like, yeah, Jail Hudson, that's
Speaker 1: my nigger, Like he's dope. Yes, you're talking about Crown,
Speaker 1: Royal Ground, Royal Imagination. I love that song and the
Speaker 1: song I did with George Benson. Whenever you're around. I
Speaker 1: love that. Like I'm gonna need somebody to call me
Speaker 1: because I just love what I love. I can help you.
Speaker 1: I can help you now, I can do I do.
Speaker 1: This is what I do. I mean, it's just battle wrap,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So you do? What about
Speaker 1: the four hero song? You all think she should include
Speaker 1: that in there because I do. I love that song.
Speaker 1: I was about to ask you about that because Mark
Speaker 1: Mac that's my nigga, But I love that song. I
Speaker 1: love that man. I think that the way you plan
Speaker 1: your verses is, first off, you gotta think of what
Speaker 1: the other artist's biggest songs are and think you're going
Speaker 1: to counter that with what you're gonna counter it with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how you Okay. So if you already know her Haymakers.
Speaker 1: If you already know her Haymakers, then you know then
Speaker 1: what's what I can do? And you gotta think of
Speaker 1: your songs that you can use to own hay Maker
Speaker 1: to get her to drop some bullshit. But you gotta
Speaker 1: understand that I I'm thinking about the my audience, like
Speaker 1: the people that come to my shows, like they know ship,
Speaker 1: they oh ship and can't wait for that moment. But
Speaker 1: you but this though, you can't think about your audience.
Speaker 1: You kind of gotta almost think of the demographic that's
Speaker 1: gonna be on I G Live and that may or
Speaker 1: may not be the same people. So it's like you
Speaker 1: gotta think about it from the standpoint of like I
Speaker 1: because I was talking about this on Twitter the other
Speaker 1: day it's like who picking a winner? And I put
Speaker 1: that in very loose quotation marks because I mean, we
Speaker 1: love both of y'all, and so there's no thank you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. No, no one loses. I
Speaker 1: mean this is a celebration, you know what it's for
Speaker 1: the culture. Yeah. I love the way the Riz and
Speaker 1: DJ Premier did this. I think that was my favorite one,
Speaker 1: not being Teddy Riley at Jill right now, it's all
Speaker 1: about nothing. And so what I want to say to
Speaker 1: Jill because I don't know if she's aware, but you
Speaker 1: do know that Erica is up on her tech ship
Speaker 1: right now, right like, she's got her own streaming service.
Speaker 1: She's performing in bubbles and ship like that and way
Speaker 1: wait wait, the energy you bringing right now is like instigating. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is I love both of them. I love both.
Speaker 1: I means my sister, but I love both of the music.
Speaker 1: Whatever what I'm saying is that I just want her
Speaker 1: to understand who she's playing against, because I don't know
Speaker 1: she's been, you know, playing attention, She's been in her
Speaker 1: COVID world. So I'm just saying that Erica is gonna
Speaker 1: come with technology, and do you think Amir Fonte, Bill
Speaker 1: Steve that Jill should fight back with the simplicit No. Yeah, listen,
Speaker 1: all you have to do, Jill, listen, here's the thing
Speaker 1: about versus. All right, here's the mentality of versus and
Speaker 1: this is all right. Yeah, here's here's an unsolicited corner.
Speaker 1: We're your corner, people, you need to come Okay, So listen,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. The thing that makes versus work. Versus
Speaker 1: is all about Yo. These rich niggas are stuck in
Speaker 1: their crib looking at their phone, just like us. That's
Speaker 1: what makes it work. Like, that's the draw. The draw
Speaker 1: is we're looking at celebrities and people who have done
Speaker 1: all these great things. They're stuck inside their homes and
Speaker 1: this is entertainment for us just as it is for them.
Speaker 1: I'm not fucking famous. I'm just I'm regular. But anyway,
Speaker 1: So so that's the thing, so hold on, well I
Speaker 1: certainly will. So. The thing is you can take it
Speaker 1: to your car, like you can play records in your
Speaker 1: car if you want to. Anything that makes it look
Speaker 1: more intimate and makes it feel more like the audience.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, mountaintop, So do it in your kitchen
Speaker 1: and that ship is gonna be like, why are you
Speaker 1: in the bubble on the mountaintop? I have I have
Speaker 1: another thing to add to it, sensing you might need
Speaker 1: a quasi haymaker that isn't below the belt, I would
Speaker 1: actually have this is bad. I say that when she
Speaker 1: hits you, I think when she hits you, she has
Speaker 1: three haymakers. Tyrone's one of them. I feel like one
Speaker 1: is one of them. An other side of the game, now, okay,
Speaker 1: I would say, I don't think the other side. I
Speaker 1: think other side is one. I would say more so
Speaker 1: next lifetime, like that's probably the clot So my thing
Speaker 1: is when she hits with Tyrone, whatever you play next,
Speaker 1: I wish you had a TV track version of it
Speaker 1: and you sang it live. Here you go. It's too much,
Speaker 1: too much technical elements. You're doing too much paper paper.
Speaker 1: This is do what you're doing too much. People just
Speaker 1: want to see you drop the jams. They want to
Speaker 1: see you drop the jam. Don't say if you pick
Speaker 1: up your Teddy roddy guitar and just start saying doing
Speaker 1: things with your voice outside of adding technical thing, because yeah,
Speaker 1: but you woke, Jill, that's a fucking haymaker. Your voice
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but that's the thing. If she just whatever device,
Speaker 1: if there's Fender Road, if there's a Fender Offender Roads
Speaker 1: version of He Loves Me and she does that ship live,
Speaker 1: you think I will throw my phone. No, because that's
Speaker 1: the thing, Like, because when I was doing I've kind
Speaker 1: of been doing like cards for all these battles. The
Speaker 1: thing with Erica, Okay, Erica has to survive Jill's first
Speaker 1: If she can survive Jill's first album and Golden, she
Speaker 1: might have a chance. The only problem is that Jill,
Speaker 1: your first album, and I said it's on Twitter. Your
Speaker 1: first album is a fucking mind field. Anything you can drop,
Speaker 1: You can drop something off that ship. She can drop
Speaker 1: the entire album strategically, you can drop Honey my lab
Speaker 1: asses and just be like, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like for real, for real, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So the thing is like the big ones, you would
Speaker 1: have to worry about Erica. Yeah, A mirror is right.
Speaker 1: Tyrone is her hay maker. Uh Tyron. I think Tyron
Speaker 1: will be that on and on that slight time and
Speaker 1: Badu is M as much as Body is M is
Speaker 1: a classic and I love it and I still you know,
Speaker 1: is m is very top heavy. All the smokers on
Speaker 1: Saturday side b is I mean, it's it's nothing bad
Speaker 1: on it and it's remember no nigga Saturday. That's where
Speaker 1: all the smoker is. That's where I'm smoking at. But
Speaker 1: who is your scott like nigga? That album Nigga for
Speaker 1: one to goddamn slowly surely it ain't not one miss
Speaker 1: on that whole. So she does about them. Let me
Speaker 1: a mirror. Let me ask you this, what are the
Speaker 1: outside of album cuts that Jill should be including in
Speaker 1: the verse? Make it nah fun? No, don't don't they dream? No,
Speaker 1: don't they dream? Because because that because to the audience
Speaker 1: one that wasn't like I mean, it wasn't a big record.
Speaker 1: Like so it's like this, you got jams. I'm listening
Speaker 1: to the best work best best to stay out of
Speaker 1: all of this and in the thick of it, oh
Speaker 1: you're going you're not jam all right, listen, you better
Speaker 1: hit them niggs. That got them crying Royal because because
Speaker 1: the thing is here, my hear my call. That could
Speaker 1: be a hate maker for you. Like I think if
Speaker 1: we're talking to hay makers like Golden, I think it's
Speaker 1: probably like the hay make like you ain't getting up
Speaker 1: from that whenever you dropped that, because that's just that
Speaker 1: was a monster rector. Don't waste Colden, don't know, don't
Speaker 1: waste it. No, no, no, So you gotta go hear
Speaker 1: my call. You got Crown Royal, you got Rolling Hills,
Speaker 1: you got damn um what's on the second album? Um Golden?
Speaker 1: I like, no, no no, but it's another. What's the one? Um?
Speaker 1: I like spring summer feeling. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: would you whenever? I like that one? Whenever? Um My
Speaker 1: love is sweet there tighter like yeah, nigga, yeah you
Speaker 1: got that better at home? Don't sleep on bed at home?
Speaker 1: I didn't like that terrible so sweet sweet summer feeling
Speaker 1: about your music right now? Okay? Really um so, because
Speaker 1: here's the thing, here's the breakdown, and you can just
Speaker 1: use this information I have you. This is the thing
Speaker 1: with between like Erica and Jill Battle. So like Erica
Speaker 1: is more so like your your career jail. You've kind
Speaker 1: of leaned more into like the adult like contemporary what
Speaker 1: would be like urban a c kind of lane Erica's
Speaker 1: records over the last couple of years, her last few
Speaker 1: records she's kind of gone deeper more just in the
Speaker 1: hip hop and kind of being I think a little
Speaker 1: more experimental. But the thing with that is it just
Speaker 1: kind of depends on demographic So to the contingent of
Speaker 1: people that I referred to as the Ascot battalion, there
Speaker 1: is Erica's the last two albums, Yeah, the Rolling Mark,
Speaker 1: like the Boulet Niggas. Erica's last two records didn't really
Speaker 1: connect with them, like they don't know, they don't know,
Speaker 1: like New America the video they know just what But
Speaker 1: that's it. But that's it. There's a lot of people
Speaker 1: in the world. There's a lot of people listening period.
Speaker 1: You don't know who's what, don't But for versus, that's
Speaker 1: the thing, right, it's the it's one thing. If we're fighting,
Speaker 1: it's Nick. Yeah, I'm gonna say, Jill, it's Nick. Even
Speaker 1: Steve doesn't make an attempt, so I anyway, that's that's
Speaker 1: unsolicited advice. We will give Erica the same advice to
Speaker 1: just to be equal. Yeah, because you because you like
Speaker 1: your catalog, you got I think you have more in
Speaker 1: the tank than she is. And if you can get
Speaker 1: her to play her big cards early, I think you're
Speaker 1: just gonna win just off being able to go to
Speaker 1: the distance alone. I think Eric would actually try to
Speaker 1: play her centric cards. I don't think she'll play the
Speaker 1: obvious cards. I bet you on and On won't even
Speaker 1: come until like Layton Laton, Yeah, that would be smart.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, but but then, but what's she
Speaker 1: gonna play before that? I mean, like she's gonna play
Speaker 1: Gone Baby, Don't Be Long, which I love that song.
Speaker 1: But I mean what I'm saying about, you're talking about
Speaker 1: one of my favorite artists, and it appears to be
Speaker 1: the case. That's how listen, this is the right attitude.
Speaker 1: I don't we don't want to we don't even want
Speaker 1: to apply that we're leaning one way or the other. No,
Speaker 1: it's not a catfight. I don't want to tell you
Speaker 1: want to be equal playing field is all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. That's what I'm It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a great We're here to celebrate both of y'all. If
Speaker 1: you start to singing live and ships when I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna do. But the thing is, you know me, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm really organic about all the stuff that I do.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like I want to be honest,
Speaker 1: and if it comes to that and I feel like
Speaker 1: I feel like singing, then that's what's gonna happen. Feels
Speaker 1: like singing, Yes, that's right. Oh, I feel ever, you know,
Speaker 1: really be dirty? You know, really, you know, really dirty?
Speaker 1: You singing Erica song? Oh? Which one? I mean? I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think you think Erica would ever play the
Speaker 1: next lifetime? She wouldn't. If she's smart, she will, she'd
Speaker 1: better play that ship certainly, certainly, Oh you think, Jill
Speaker 1: seing certainly because that technically so you can certainly it
Speaker 1: is not her song? Not just meant certainly isn't. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I don't know you can you can't. I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm just I think that's I'm in a house with
Speaker 1: with with beams. What Grace saying when you said you
Speaker 1: made that suggestion? Did she look at you crazy? Y'all
Speaker 1: looking for a war? She's speaking for a celebration. I
Speaker 1: want to be clear, we're celebrating, you're not. You're to
Speaker 1: treat right exactly. You hugging the treat right now? You
Speaker 1: help putting your playlist together, Jill, hit me up. I
Speaker 1: will gladly curate help you whatever, like just as a
Speaker 1: because because we all need it, like as a fan,
Speaker 1: as an artist, like we have our favorites, but then
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, what resonated with the people, and sometimes
Speaker 1: it may not be the same thing. So if you
Speaker 1: just need an outside perspective, I gladly offer my services
Speaker 1: as can just. I know that y'all of friends and
Speaker 1: sistems and whatnot, but that don't I don't mean that
Speaker 1: in this battle. We gotta be like sister, I love you, girl.
Speaker 1: I love you too, girl, I love you girl, I
Speaker 1: love Oh my god, please don't love me to call
Speaker 1: it a battle, Oh my god. We we just want
Speaker 1: one round of mutual respect. That's the baby face, baby face,
Speaker 1: Jill baby face. I don't do baby face with He's
Speaker 1: shady face. He had all the shade, all right. So
Speaker 1: that's that's it for our unsolicited advice. Yes, thanks, and
Speaker 1: we only do it because we love you and we
Speaker 1: don't need That's not a bat. It's a celebration, you said,
Speaker 1: one one, one round of mutual and then war. And
Speaker 1: you know, make sure make sure no one has their
Speaker 1: phones on using your WiFi when you do this. Make
Speaker 1: sure everyone goes in the airport mode so that you're
Speaker 1: the only person using What about that that sound bite
Speaker 1: of the black Party when it goes Jill, Are you
Speaker 1: christ all right? Jill? No, I Jill, I'm glad that
Speaker 1: we had you know what, you know what, it's weird.
Speaker 1: I wish you did have a new album coming out
Speaker 1: twenty years later called I Am Jill Scott. I can't
Speaker 1: say enough how much you've literally changed my life and around.
Speaker 1: That was your first attempt. I'm never going to get
Speaker 1: over that, like I have a whole respect. I just oh,
Speaker 1: I just the fact is I need you. I couldn't
Speaker 1: remember the second song. The fact is I need you
Speaker 1: because you said staying in probably your thing you start
Speaker 1: with that, Yes, well that was that. That was a
Speaker 1: hard hitting hole right there. Car that I didn't even
Speaker 1: have a baby. Now, well yeah, you was doing things
Speaker 1: that make them. Yeah. Anyway, the one in Paris is
Speaker 1: my favorite. Live in Paris, risul in Paris, that's my favorite. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love there, I love I wanted. I wanted to
Speaker 1: go to Paris so bad at a residency there and
Speaker 1: at the Australian Opera House. It was it was happening.
Speaker 1: I was so excited. Damn covid. Yeah, that's what you
Speaker 1: was going to do. What about movies? You know, were
Speaker 1: you gonna he was in the process of I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a there was plenty of things. This is a
Speaker 1: good working year. We'll see what we'll see what happens later.
Speaker 1: But you know, on the other side of that coin,
Speaker 1: this is refreshment. You know, there's a chance to refresh
Speaker 1: and get our creativity back and and and rest. It's
Speaker 1: a big reset man. Connect. Yeah, I want to ask you,
Speaker 1: um your we didn't talk about your role in the
Speaker 1: James rob movie. Um, get on up. What about it?
Speaker 1: Was it? Was it a positive experience? Was it in
Speaker 1: terms of your growth as an actress? Like, did you
Speaker 1: feel that it was something that you, you know, you
Speaker 1: had to rise to the challenger? Did it kind of
Speaker 1: feel like put his hands on you? Yeah, you didn't
Speaker 1: see it though, I didn't see he didn't actually touch
Speaker 1: He didn't see him touch me. I just made you
Speaker 1: think he did. But um, damn that that that movie? Actually?
Speaker 1: Is this the one I wish I could do over?
Speaker 1: I wish I could do that one over. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: learned after what I should have done, and I'm disappointed
Speaker 1: by that, What do you think you did wrong? I
Speaker 1: should have punched him in his mouth. I should have
Speaker 1: fought him. I should have fist fought him. Is that
Speaker 1: what she did? Um? Yeah, damn. I went with I
Speaker 1: went with what was written and instead I should have
Speaker 1: I should have fought him, And I'm disappointed, Like, I
Speaker 1: really wish I could go back to do that over.
Speaker 1: So I learned again about homework and how important it
Speaker 1: is to to do the home work. You know, so
Speaker 1: even if nobody else understands it, well, you want everybody
Speaker 1: to understand it, but you have to be uh, be
Speaker 1: that guy if that's the generals, Be that guy. I
Speaker 1: don't think I was that guy as much as I
Speaker 1: would want to be. So that's the only role I've
Speaker 1: had as farted. Like disappoints me. Did you think that
Speaker 1: not hitting him? Do you think that made the character
Speaker 1: look weaker or like? What was your what was your
Speaker 1: reason behind it? Um? I thought that she was so
Speaker 1: in love with him. In fact, Dede Brown is still
Speaker 1: in love with James Brown today. She was so overwhelmingly
Speaker 1: in love with him that, Um, you know, that's the
Speaker 1: part that I highlighted. She was just almost obsessed with him,
Speaker 1: but she did have some spunk and some fighting her
Speaker 1: and I wish she had punched him in the mouth.
Speaker 1: I wish I had allowed her, you know in the
Speaker 1: film the punch him in the mouth. He deserved it
Speaker 1: and it would have represented her a little better than
Speaker 1: than what I did. So so you talked to interview
Speaker 1: you with her and got to know her as to develop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: beforehand and encouragement of the director in the production. That
Speaker 1: was that was on my own. Um I there was
Speaker 1: a young man working on set. I can't remember what
Speaker 1: he did, but he told me that that was his grandmother,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you gotta you gotta get me
Speaker 1: in touch with your grandma, you know, because they were
Speaker 1: on the newly web game together, so I got a
Speaker 1: chance to see her ways, but I didn't get a
Speaker 1: chance to it's on it's online, it's on YouTube. I think, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were real cute, They're real cute. They absolutely enjoyed
Speaker 1: each other. But they fought. They definitely fought, and he
Speaker 1: was whooping ass and I get I got it, like
Speaker 1: I got it. You could. I could see how someone
Speaker 1: could totally totally be like in love with this guy
Speaker 1: and enjoyably suppressed He's powerful. It's powerful, man. I ain't
Speaker 1: for me to that. I'm bush in your sleep for you.
Speaker 1: Any thoughts of writing your memoir? I think about it often.
Speaker 1: I think people would be completely surprised how I got
Speaker 1: here and how I am able to stay here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think about it often. There's a lot good. Do
Speaker 1: you feel like the journey still happening for you to
Speaker 1: even start writing your memoir. If I just wrote the
Speaker 1: first fifteen years, if I just remember being in the world,
Speaker 1: if I, if I could be right, I remember being
Speaker 1: in the wall. If I wrote the first fifteen years
Speaker 1: of this existence, it would be crazy. People would not
Speaker 1: leave any of it. It's it's half mythology and folklore
Speaker 1: with these brilliant sprinkles of simple is crazy. My existence
Speaker 1: has been you gotta do? You have to do it?
Speaker 1: Like James Taylor. James Taylor worked backwards, so he just
Speaker 1: released his life between birth and like maybe two months ago,
Speaker 1: but you know, started with the end of his life.
Speaker 1: Once he like rehabbed himself and got his life together.
Speaker 1: Then the project before is like the hell he went
Speaker 1: through as James Taylor, and then the real hell he
Speaker 1: went through from childhood to twenty one that got him
Speaker 1: to be a heroin Addict and all that stuff, like
Speaker 1: him telling the story backwards almost it's cinematically maybe telling
Speaker 1: your story backwards in that way from zero to one
Speaker 1: or I because I think people feel like they need
Speaker 1: to release their entire life story in one mean I
Speaker 1: could do it. I could do it like may Angelo. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you been some pieces at the stay some pieces
Speaker 1: at the time. It's funny we're having that conversation when
Speaker 1: we try to get like somebody's whole life story and
Speaker 1: like an hour and start. So but Jill, I thank
Speaker 1: you for doing us, and thank you for having me
Speaker 1: your artistry, and we don't even have to call Jill
Speaker 1: anymore for I still think she needs to do like
Speaker 1: a drunk Hollywood. I'm trying to say holiday episode or
Speaker 1: something like in person. I just a drunk holiday. So
Speaker 1: we do those. Oh Christmas, Jill Man, listen crettes. I
Speaker 1: no more drunk, no more drunk. I don't want no
Speaker 1: more drunk, you know whatever. Yeah, that's what we do
Speaker 1: to that Christmas turned upside down. I just last music question, Jill. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a shame record that a group, yes, or is
Speaker 1: that you under an Alias or that. Another group of
Speaker 1: singers it was. Aren't they amazing? Um? Oh god, I
Speaker 1: can't remember everybody's name, it's been so long. I know
Speaker 1: one was Keisha shit, I feel bad. Um the a
Speaker 1: group They were singers that sang together all the time
Speaker 1: and uh Keisha renee um. And I heard them. I
Speaker 1: was like, would you mind playing with me? And they did?
Speaker 1: They were I just loved them. They were incredible. I
Speaker 1: can't believe I've forgotten all of their names. It'll hit
Speaker 1: me later. In three of them. Yeah, they they just
Speaker 1: were amazing. They reminded me very much of the the
Speaker 1: emotions and it's like, yes, and Asa Franklin's background singers.
Speaker 1: You know that they had that which I needed. Sponsor
Speaker 1: circle back to shame. I just want to say, you
Speaker 1: and Eve, do y'all ever circle back and have these
Speaker 1: conversations of how y'all are so connected? How the roots? Okay?
Speaker 1: I would just we did okay, okay, we did. We
Speaker 1: We shot with this ring together with Regina Halls and
Speaker 1: Brooklyn South Dono, and we had a chance to just
Speaker 1: kick it on, you know, kick it every day. So
Speaker 1: we talked about it how that song changed our lives
Speaker 1: and here we are these years. That's what I was inferring.
Speaker 1: But our mayor changes lives. That's what Look, that's what
Speaker 1: the roots do. I mean the without your guidance, I mean,
Speaker 1: stop stop, take this compliment, Take this compliment, Take this compliment.
Speaker 1: Put that came down with Without your guidance and your vision.
Speaker 1: You know, so many artists wouldn't have a career right now,
Speaker 1: and you picked artists that all have longevity and Josh,
Speaker 1: including yourself. Well, when she did the video that was
Speaker 1: just like a long walk, I was over her and
Speaker 1: I was motherfucker, that was your one long mistake. But
Speaker 1: that's okay, because we forgive you for what your guest
Speaker 1: blessed us. What was just yeah, you know yeah, and
Speaker 1: Rafael di l did she did she did a video
Speaker 1: biting a long walk exactly. Oh yes, I was like,
Speaker 1: shut up, the one that you're playing in the drums
Speaker 1: and the video that's because of the time my girlfriend
Speaker 1: asked me to be in that video because she was
Speaker 1: the director. Oh yeah, I don't, I don't know, and
Speaker 1: you ain't a minute. And she she was the director
Speaker 1: on With This Ring Wow. And she's a director on
Speaker 1: my new favorite show with Carrie Washington and Reese Wetherspoon.
Speaker 1: I'm watching that. By the way, I'm watching it, but
Speaker 1: you're watching it. I'm both of those. Do you feel
Speaker 1: like you're both of those women? And well, if I'm
Speaker 1: lucky enough to be reading, I'll definitely feel Carrie's pain.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I see you feel like I'm I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm both of them. And that's that's great, you know,
Speaker 1: just being able to relate. I can see the both ends.
Speaker 1: I think it's really cool. I love that show. Don't
Speaker 1: sunk with their kids either way. Don't do that. Don't
Speaker 1: do that. All right, So for the fourth time, Yeah,
Speaker 1: any last questions last, I thank you, thank you, Jill,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Yeah, that first time, I'm so
Speaker 1: thank you. It was it was Bill' paper Bill hither
Speaker 1: get get her on Sessory Street. You haven't anytime? Yes,
Speaker 1: I've done. She cried most of the time, most of
Speaker 1: the time, so you worked. Okay, I wasn't there. This
Speaker 1: is before my time. It was awesome. Music director. You
Speaker 1: gotta get Jill back on Seston Street to talk about
Speaker 1: being in the wound. I want to hear all about it.
Speaker 1: Anything she could probably do that. We try to do
Speaker 1: a loaf of bread and stick a butter with Slane
Speaker 1: and it didn't air at all. Bill it did it?
Speaker 1: Did it? Finally signed the release Yeah somewhere. Yeah, hold okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta watch that joint. She's not gonna do ship
Speaker 1: did she did for somebody else? She's gonna dor own.
Speaker 1: You know that song is a staple, A loaf of bread,
Speaker 1: contain the milk and a stick up butter. At the time,
Speaker 1: I thought I thought Slane X needed so. I loved
Speaker 1: my experience on Sesame Street. It was wonderful. By the
Speaker 1: time Mr snuffle snuffle up Against walked out, I just
Speaker 1: I could not stop crying. I was I couldn't a
Speaker 1: stop crying. I was talking to what's his name, Jesus,
Speaker 1: I'm terrible with names, Kevin. I was talking to Kevin,
Speaker 1: the guy who was playing Elmo. Yes, I was talking
Speaker 1: to the brother. We're just standing there wrapping the He
Speaker 1: put Elmo in his hand. I forgot the man was there.
Speaker 1: Started hugging the man's hand in the puppet, talking only
Speaker 1: to the man's who. I forgot the man was there.
Speaker 1: That's how magical. It was, Just like boying. It was great.
Speaker 1: I got in the I got in the nest, I
Speaker 1: got in the trash can, I worked in the store.
Speaker 1: I did it all. I hung out the window, I
Speaker 1: did it all. The fiftieth anniversary on HBO has it.
Speaker 1: Oh sweet, okay, I gotta see it. You think you
Speaker 1: you think you're getting married? Against you? Oh shit? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she joining us coming to the compound. Oh ship, you
Speaker 1: cannot big you really Hendrickson. That man living in the
Speaker 1: house reclaimed wood. He living his best life. Yeah, eating
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen RVF. Yeah, unpaid Bill dream dream and
Speaker 1: my third wife Joe Scott, not me, hold on, hold
Speaker 1: a second one, Grace, Oh the first one. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you after it goes off the air. Anyway, I know
Speaker 1: it's not so great. I'm your third wife. Oh big love.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Living is big love, not question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but thank you, Thank you for doing this show on
Speaker 1: behalf of the entire team Supreme. We say thank you
Speaker 1: and we will see you on the next go rad
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