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Speaker 2: The Anti slutshaming Podcast. I'm Hutchinson, I'm parent Fisher.
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Speaker 6: We Fucked.
Speaker 2: It's the Anti Slutchaman podcast. I'm Corine Fisher. I'm Christina Hutchinson.
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Speaker 2: show at gmail dot com. This subject line says, it
Speaker 2: is not normal in all caps to hate your spouse.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we know, we literally know that. Hi, Christina
Speaker 2: and Corien. I've been what I've been listening to g
Speaker 2: w AP since the beginning and I am a big
Speaker 2: fan of the show and love the perspectives you bring
Speaker 2: to sex, relationships, dating, and life. I have noticed in
Speaker 2: the last few weeks that the tone of the show
Speaker 2: has veered, in my opinion, a little cynical on relationships.
Speaker 2: You have you listened to the emails? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know that I was, even the past few
Speaker 2: weeks ago. I mean I think that's the entirety.
Speaker 3: Of the show.
Speaker 6: A lot of the emails we read make us cynical
Speaker 6: towards relationship because they're about bad relationships. Because you went
Speaker 6: right into an advice podcast, Yeah, relationship was perfect.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also, if if you thought that this show was somehow
Speaker 2: the point of it was for us to convince you
Speaker 2: to get into a relationship, you've been listening all wrong.
Speaker 3: But go to call her daddy. My good friends, I
Speaker 3: don't think that's what that's about either. To be honest,
Speaker 3: is she married, well did she get married yet? She's engaged?
Speaker 7: I just call her daddy. Is just like, you're famous,
Speaker 7: come talk to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I just know that People magazine did an engagement shoot.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I could have been Main Karn. Oh God,
Speaker 3: I would never have done that.
Speaker 6: That's no, no, no, no, I mean in another fat like,
Speaker 6: in another way. Okay, maybe it does have your you know,
Speaker 6: Karen's dog's birthday photo shoot or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like maybe something for like, yeah, like a
Speaker 3: rescue or something. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just feel like photographing your engagement in that way
Speaker 2: is very bad vibes.
Speaker 3: I worry that if I were a.
Speaker 2: Young single person listening to your show right now, a
Speaker 2: lot of worries for something that you're not. I mean,
Speaker 2: come on, I feel that there was no hope for
Speaker 2: me to have a happy marriage without some sort of
Speaker 2: weird trick to make it all work. Have you?
Speaker 6: But these are the emails that we read on the show.
Speaker 6: I am, I am in a relationship and I fucking
Speaker 6: love it. It's healthy and I don't really talk about
Speaker 6: it because it's healthy.
Speaker 3: No one gives a fuck.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 7: I'm not going to speak for Carin. I've thought we were.
Speaker 7: We've literally been talking like before the show started today
Speaker 7: about how frustrated I feel too, Like I maybe there
Speaker 7: is like a like a cynical twinge, but like this
Speaker 7: is also our personal experiences.
Speaker 2: Like again, I'll reiterate what I've said in the past
Speaker 2: a lot and like listen, we'll get through the whole email.
Speaker 3: You've just already annoyed us, so we stopped.
Speaker 2: But no, I uh to me, it's like Christina and
Speaker 2: I have talked about this before that like, yeah, our
Speaker 2: whole this is the number one of show primarily for women.
Speaker 2: Men are allowed to listen, but this is not for you,
Speaker 2: And so we're talking about Women are constantly sold that
Speaker 2: relationships are the thing, that's what the goal is. So
Speaker 2: the point of this show is to offer the other perspective.
Speaker 2: It's not to talk you out of the relationship. The
Speaker 2: relationship is the thing that is a hard cell since
Speaker 2: you fucking are born when you're a strust, but especially
Speaker 2: a straight woman.
Speaker 3: So we're showing you that, like, hey, if.
Speaker 2: You don't have one, or if it doesn't feel right,
Speaker 2: don't settle for anything less than what you absolutely want
Speaker 2: and what you absolutely deserve, and you're still going to
Speaker 2: be fine whether you're in a relationship or not. So
Speaker 2: if that's somehow been misconsered, I mean, obviously. Also, it's
Speaker 2: a comedy show, so we're making a ton of jokes.
Speaker 2: But and we've never I never thought it was normal.
Speaker 2: It's not normal to hate your spouse. We never thought that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we never.
Speaker 2: Thought that way. I want to make it clear how
Speaker 2: much I agree with you. Generally, most straight men are
Speaker 2: emotional babies looking for someone to coddle them and replace
Speaker 2: their mother. There are a lot of bad marriages out
Speaker 2: there that I wouldn't want to be a part of,
Speaker 2: and certainly men I wouldn't want to be married to totally.
Speaker 3: But I also want to.
Speaker 2: Provide some perspective from a guy who actually really likes
Speaker 2: wife and enjoys her company.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah as a friend.
Speaker 2: Okay, my wife and I met in college and have
Speaker 2: been together for nearly fourteen years, married for almost six
Speaker 2: point five years of marriage isn't a lot, but in
Speaker 2: that time we've been through some pretty serious shit too,
Speaker 2: So I feel like we've tested the strength of the
Speaker 2: relationship pretty well, for example, that's awesome. It clears up
Speaker 2: why the email annoyed me immediately out of the gates.
Speaker 2: Number one, I didn't even know. I thought it was
Speaker 2: a woman, and I'm still annoyed. Number one a nine
Speaker 2: month work rotation where we were about as physically far
Speaker 2: apart as it's possible to be.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So already you're making not a good case because.
Speaker 2: One of the best so much because you barely see
Speaker 2: her when.
Speaker 7: You were in a night rotation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, this sounds great.
Speaker 2: A life threatening illness treatment and the financial implication of.
Speaker 3: That, that's tough. Yeah, that's a big one.
Speaker 2: Financial ups and downs and periods where only one of
Speaker 2: us was earning.
Speaker 3: That's another stress.
Speaker 2: Little crushes and jealousies of course, parent family stuff, including
Speaker 2: actually living with the one set of parents for a
Speaker 2: year during COVID, across country move stressful jobs, et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. I'm already out regarding the article
Speaker 2: you read on error last episode about normalt marital.
Speaker 3: Hatred, which we thought was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Of that article, were you're listening to us, That article
Speaker 2: is crazy because you should never hate your spouse. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we read it because it was awful. I think it's
Speaker 2: complete bullshit. Yeah, we agree, did you hear us? The
Speaker 2: fact that the author claimed they've toured the country and
Speaker 2: never found anyone who will push back on that is
Speaker 2: totally bogus.
Speaker 3: Agreed.
Speaker 2: I can say, for my part normal marital hatred is
Speaker 2: not a thing. I've never once hated her, and I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure the same is true vice versa. I completely
Speaker 2: agree with you guys that if you ever hate your partner,
Speaker 2: that's a reliable sign that the relationship is over. I
Speaker 2: will say that in the vein of the reader email
Speaker 2: you read a few weeks ago from the girl who
Speaker 2: moved in with her boyfriend and found him annoying and
Speaker 2: feeling like he was robbing all her time. I do
Speaker 2: think that's normal and something that can be worked through.
Speaker 3: That was extreme.
Speaker 2: I don't agree in a relationship there will be times
Speaker 2: where your partner, I like how you're kind of speaking
Speaker 2: to us as if we've never been in a long
Speaker 2: term relationship, and I don't and I don't love it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's like man's plaining our own show to us.
Speaker 3: Bitch, we got it.
Speaker 7: After listening to anything that was said in the first place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is well, you disagree what he
Speaker 3: brought up that article. I was like, yeah, we agree
Speaker 3: with you. But then he said, yeah, I agree with
Speaker 3: you also.
Speaker 7: Hey man, yeah, it's this is your relationship. This is
Speaker 7: one example. Yeah, you know against.
Speaker 3: Well people love to do.
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, it's so funny because we get
Speaker 2: a lot of criticism for like knocking marriage whatever, but
Speaker 2: people in marriages get so defensive in a way where like, God,
Speaker 2: if it was going well, you wouldn't need to tell
Speaker 2: us all about how great it is.
Speaker 6: Exactly, dude, therein lies the proof that you ain't having
Speaker 6: as good.
Speaker 3: Of a time as you telling everybody.
Speaker 2: This man just wrote us a manifesto on how great
Speaker 2: marriage is.
Speaker 3: Okay, hues red flag, I've ever seen my goddamn life.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The first talking point was we had spend a lot
Speaker 3: of time at bart. I know, I love that part.
Speaker 3: I was so bored. I go, oh, yeah, honestly, yeah,
Speaker 3: that is what I know that the email.
Speaker 7: Yet then there's more coming.
Speaker 2: But this is this is I think this is like
Speaker 2: kind of the fun of reading emails that we can
Speaker 2: that we like every paragraph, we could dive in and
Speaker 2: have like a conversation for sure.
Speaker 7: But the whole, the whole point that I was trying
Speaker 7: to make is that I don't I don't think that
Speaker 7: I still don't think that as a as a collective,
Speaker 7: we shit on the idea of like that nobody should
Speaker 7: be married and whatever. Like I think, I think I
Speaker 7: want that for myself. The marriage is a beautiful thing, right,
Speaker 7: But I think that I do think that there is
Speaker 7: It's it's funny that this person is using the sample
Speaker 7: size of one to explain that we're wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I have a whole larger theory on this,
Speaker 2: but I mean I I do think heterosexual men are
Speaker 2: absolutely quivering in their boots because word has spread that
Speaker 2: marriages are really mostly a disservice to heterosexual women, and
Speaker 2: so they've gone out of their way in things that
Speaker 2: I've seen online to really fight for these like traditional
Speaker 2: values and traditional.
Speaker 6: Values such a red flag if you hear that coming
Speaker 6: out of anybody's fucking mouth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, men are absolutely quivering their boots because they
Speaker 2: they they they know, they've known the whole time what
Speaker 2: a great setup heterosexual marriage is for them, and now
Speaker 2: we finally fucking caught on and so they need to
Speaker 2: resell it to us.
Speaker 6: Yes, and I think it's a situational but okay, no, no,
Speaker 6: but no, but listen, I was just going to add,
Speaker 6: the only men that are actually equivaling in their boots
Speaker 6: when Karen brings up this topic, or when these topics
Speaker 6: are brought up anyway, are the ones that are not
Speaker 6: bringing it in the relationship. And like ride and pretty,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like, you wouldn't get offended
Speaker 6: by her saying that if you weren't that kind of guy.
Speaker 2: If I was happy and happily married and I heard
Speaker 2: some ladies talking on a show talking, you know, about
Speaker 2: how marriage isn't good, I would just sit at home
Speaker 2: and go, well, I mean, I hope they find someone someday,
Speaker 2: because yeah, it really can be great.
Speaker 3: And then I'd move on with my day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and all right, back to the cemail. Now, in
Speaker 2: a relationship, there will be times where your partner just
Speaker 2: gets on your nerves or everything they do drives you nuts,
Speaker 2: and where their little thought flaws really feel big and apparent.
Speaker 3: Oh thank you for clearing that up for me, sir.
Speaker 3: I can't tell that all by myself. I no, I've
Speaker 3: only was someone for seven years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot dated some over five years and then
Speaker 2: multiple two, two and a half three, Like, what are
Speaker 2: we talking about here? Sometimes that's an hour or a day.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's a week or even months. Okay, well, mon Mons.
Speaker 3: When I bring up months is when you go out months,
Speaker 3: you're getting gone right too, inconvenient for me? See you later.
Speaker 2: Relationships are definitely cyclical, but if you're doing them right,
Speaker 2: then the highs and lows get progressively higher over time,
Speaker 2: the highs and the lows get Yeah, I mean, so
Speaker 2: the highs are higher and the lows are also higher.
Speaker 2: I guess that's the point. I can remember a period
Speaker 2: like the one she described. It was about a year
Speaker 2: after we first moved in together, when it felt like
Speaker 2: I never got the apartment to myself and she just
Speaker 2: always was just always there, and it made me really
Speaker 2: unreasonably annoyed to have her in my space all the time.
Speaker 3: Well, it was your communal space.
Speaker 2: So I think that's particularly normal when you're first merging
Speaker 2: your lives, moving in, figuring out, Yeah, renewing my lease
Speaker 2: again because I don't want to move with my boyfriend,
Speaker 2: because separate apartments is kind of better.
Speaker 3: Yea, how you're going to do, especially when's the same neighborhood.
Speaker 2: I know, yes, there's not same building, but a block
Speaker 2: away same building as my that's my same building as
Speaker 2: my molding is probably ideal, but like a block away,
Speaker 2: different homes. I yeah, I would just like to like
Speaker 2: kind of like be like, oh I forgot something and
Speaker 2: run back, you know, and then be like, oh, sorry,
Speaker 2: I fell asleep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, whoops.
Speaker 2: I'm reasonably annoyed to have her in my space all
Speaker 2: the time. I think that's particularly normal when you're first
Speaker 2: merging your lives, moving and figuring out how you're jointly
Speaker 2: prioritize time and money, et cetera. Well, also, you don't,
Speaker 2: you don't have to join prior do money. I never
Speaker 2: want to do that, But hatred not normal. There is
Speaker 2: some big secret. We don't have separate bedrooms or spend
Speaker 2: half the year on separate coasts. You literally just talked
Speaker 2: about a nine months when you were like in a
Speaker 2: rotation where you didnt see each other, but okay, or
Speaker 2: anything like that. We even share the vast majority of
Speaker 2: our friends and spend a lot of time together.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of oaks there.
Speaker 2: Maybe we are playing on relationship easy mode since we
Speaker 2: very intentionally don't have kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that probably does help.
Speaker 2: But I've also seen very strong, joyful slash fun partnerships
Speaker 2: with young kids in them me too, Like we're on TV.
Speaker 3: Everything.
Speaker 2: A man just heard two women talking for an extended
Speaker 2: period of time and he said he needed to cut in.
Speaker 3: I just can't work into this set.
Speaker 7: I don't know like I I have seen. Of course,
Speaker 7: I have friends that are married and it seems great
Speaker 7: because they they like each other and it works for them.
Speaker 7: I have I've seen adults that are married where I'm.
Speaker 2: Just like my parents were married and I grew up
Speaker 2: in a home like like in the house with them.
Speaker 7: It's just it's just like it is taking is it
Speaker 7: is taking this seriously to a degree that we seldom
Speaker 7: to see on this podcast.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: I know if there is a secret, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: it is really like each other and building a partnership
Speaker 2: with your own rules slash aligned with your values. Having
Speaker 2: had the chance to observe many couples, we often remark
Speaker 2: to each other that we think we like others more
Speaker 2: than other people like each other. We like each other
Speaker 2: more than other people do. Cut all that they get
Speaker 2: in this email is there. This is my own thing.
Speaker 2: But like the excessive use of we when you're in
Speaker 2: a couple, it's it's just like fucking nails on a
Speaker 2: chalk war.
Speaker 3: I can't when I when I.
Speaker 2: Ask someone, oh, oh you went to the movies, how
Speaker 2: was it? And they go, we really liked it? I go,
Speaker 2: are you sharing a brain? It's I know, I like,
Speaker 2: I know, reacting too hard to know you're not like
Speaker 2: just people I really love.
Speaker 3: And respect to it.
Speaker 2: And I just go, I have to see what we're
Speaker 2: doing this weekend. Where will you be on Saturday? Where
Speaker 2: will your body be?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it will.
Speaker 2: Be in my lover's body because we are one lover
Speaker 2: and we when we have sex, it's just masturbation because
Speaker 2: we're one person.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I hate one.
Speaker 2: Heart, one brain, one ask it like ruins my day
Speaker 2: when I went someone when I front responds to me
Speaker 2: with the with the wei for someone I didn't ask about, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I actually don't even want to hang out with you anymore.
Speaker 3: I'm so good, Thank you so much for that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it doesn't I totally get it.
Speaker 2: I know, I know it's an overreaction, but it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: my personal.
Speaker 6: Thing that drives me fucking When I hear that from
Speaker 6: I usually hear it mostly from from women, but I
Speaker 6: when I hear that from anybody, I'm like, oh, it.
Speaker 3: Makes me go, oh god, oh lord, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when it's like you're when you were asking
Speaker 2: about their boyfriend or girlfriend. What it's also like, especially
Speaker 2: when it's like when I'm asking your specific opinion on
Speaker 2: like an artistic piece, and you come out and it's
Speaker 2: like a concert or a movie and it's like, we
Speaker 2: didn't like, so you have the same you're loving your opinion,
Speaker 2: you had the same reaction to it. That's well, then
Speaker 2: you need some You need to go to a doctor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to go. And happens your brainy to go.
Speaker 2: Who is that presidential candidate? That that doctor guy who
Speaker 2: separated the conjoined twins.
Speaker 3: You need to go to that guy. Oh my lord,
Speaker 3: he's a bad candidate. But separated those twins. That was
Speaker 3: cool of them, That was really cool.
Speaker 2: Apparently it isn't normal, person, We go, oh, apparently it
Speaker 2: isn't normal for people to actually pick someone they really
Speaker 2: really like to partner with. We prioritize each other's feelings,
Speaker 2: compromise and hold ourselves to a pretty high standard in
Speaker 2: terms of how we interact, you know, fighting or raising voices,
Speaker 2: Lots and lots of open and pretty direct communication. At
Speaker 2: our wedding and uncle of mine with a forty plus
Speaker 2: year marriage came up to us and took us each
Speaker 2: by the shoulder and said, in his language, all you
Speaker 2: have to do is love each other a lot. All
Speaker 2: you have to do is love each other a lot.
Speaker 2: I know that was supposed to be meaningful, but it wasn't.
Speaker 2: I figured, Yeah, why'd you say it twice? Because I
Speaker 2: guess he's why did he type it twice? I'm guessing
Speaker 2: the uncle said it like it just doesn't It doesn't
Speaker 2: translate an email book.
Speaker 7: I got your uncle must have been hammer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know if the uncle was on cocaine and
Speaker 3: repeated himself.
Speaker 2: Love each other, each other, such other a lot. One
Speaker 2: of my absolute greatest joys in life is when people
Speaker 2: say something that they think is going to be profound,
Speaker 2: and then they wait a beat afterwards it and then
Speaker 2: there's like a slow clapp especially when I'm.
Speaker 8: Like wow, wow, dude, yeah, during the during the parent
Speaker 8: speeches at a wedding, like they I always think they're
Speaker 8: dropping like gold.
Speaker 3: And it's always like a magnet you would buy in
Speaker 3: the Hallmark store. It's so corny. You're like, is this
Speaker 3: from a roadside stand? This is awful.
Speaker 2: It's like one of the it's like a piece of
Speaker 2: advice from one of the tiny books at the Barnes
Speaker 2: and Noble checkout, or the mag the refrigerator magnet, the
Speaker 2: ones that you're like, if you have a book like
Speaker 2: this in your home or a magnet like that on
Speaker 2: your fridge, you're about to kill yourself and you're just
Speaker 2: trying so hard not to. Oh god, Okay, back to this.
Speaker 2: I think about that a lot. It really is that simple.
Speaker 2: Yet no, it's not.
Speaker 5: It's not.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? I have to do is
Speaker 2: love each other a lot. What if your kid gets murdered?
Speaker 2: I know you don't have to, but yeah, I can
Speaker 2: honestly say I think I love her more and more
Speaker 2: every year we're together.
Speaker 3: That's beautiful. That's I feel.
Speaker 7: I don't exactly it's great, great.
Speaker 3: We're also happy for you.
Speaker 6: No, but that's that is beautiful, But like that's something
Speaker 6: that's you should continue to.
Speaker 3: Stay in a relationship when this is how it feels.
Speaker 7: And the advice can never be. All you have to
Speaker 7: do is love each other a lot. Are we children?
Speaker 2: Because bound to respect each other, you have to make
Speaker 2: sure you you you prioritize your own personal time.
Speaker 3: There's like so many things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean, if you want to talk about,
Speaker 2: all you have to do is love each other a lot.
Speaker 3: May I recommend to you, sir?
Speaker 2: The George and Tammy mini series about George Jones and Tammy.
Speaker 2: Why not they loved each other a lot? If they
Speaker 2: stayed in the same house, one of them would be dead. Yes, obviously,
Speaker 2: and and I think and it's so interesting because even
Speaker 2: the spouses that they ultimately remarried, who they died when
Speaker 2: they were married to these spouses, even those other spouses
Speaker 2: recognize that George and Tammy were so in.
Speaker 7: Love with each other.
Speaker 3: Wow, how strong that was.
Speaker 2: Obviously there is conflict, and sure any given day or week,
Speaker 2: there may be something she does or some habit that
Speaker 2: makes me roll my eyes or get annoyed.
Speaker 3: Sure you're not friends either.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I didn't like how that was only direct I know,
Speaker 2: but hatred and real tension in a marriage is just
Speaker 2: not unavoidable. I wish more people our age understood how
Speaker 2: fun it can be. Well, I mean this as fun,
Speaker 2: my guy, if you commit to finding someone you really
Speaker 2: really like. Apologies for the long email, but this has
Speaker 2: been on my mind for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you got your thoughts out, but I like it.
Speaker 2: I'm not as annoyed because I'm like, Okay, this guy
Speaker 2: is in a really happy relationship and I.
Speaker 3: Wants to share it. Yeah, like when you first go vegan.
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is the thing. Christina's absolutely right, And this
Speaker 7: is the thing that happens when people who are in
Speaker 7: relationships when they're happy. This is what they did.
Speaker 2: We like, yeah, and they'll talk about the shit on stage.
Speaker 7: So when you're in your thirties and you're single and
Speaker 7: people like your friends that are in happy, committed relationships,
Speaker 7: like it's great that they are happy, but they make
Speaker 7: it sound like it's such a slam dunk easy thing
Speaker 7: for people to just I'm not. I'm obviously like, I'm
Speaker 7: a person that is hoping to be in a relationship
Speaker 7: with some I've watched that, of course, but it's not
Speaker 7: like a piece of cake. It's like when your parents.
Speaker 3: Your mom is a lot like why do you already
Speaker 3: have a girlfriend such a la that's.
Speaker 7: Fucking easy to just pick somebody and choose to love them.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, conditionally, we're living in a time where a
Speaker 6: lot of people's personality disorders, mental illnesses, things they have
Speaker 6: to work like, we're not like you were saying this
Speaker 6: earlier before we recorded for like and I and I've
Speaker 6: noticed it too. There's not a lot of people working
Speaker 6: on themselves, so like when you are somebody who's working
Speaker 6: on yourselves, like, dating is a fucking nightmare.
Speaker 7: It's awful.
Speaker 2: And you were in the city where people people are
Speaker 2: like on top of their ship. It's New York City,
Speaker 2: but it's still a fucking nightmare to date here because
Speaker 2: the dating pool gets smaller and.
Speaker 7: Older that you get to if you if you get
Speaker 7: into your thirties and you still don't have a part
Speaker 7: Like I don't feel like this all the time, but
Speaker 7: it's hard toties.
Speaker 3: I didn't feel that in early thirties.
Speaker 7: Or even I'm approaching mid and and there's there's times
Speaker 7: where I feel like that, and I feel this way
Speaker 7: about myself too. I'm not saying about the people that
Speaker 7: are sure, but there are times where I'm just like
Speaker 7: where we're like what's left. We're kind of like the
Speaker 7: spare parts at times, and a lot of times it's
Speaker 7: like people that are myself, I.
Speaker 3: Think of that at all.
Speaker 2: I think most a lot of single people are the
Speaker 2: people who are like they're not so amazing that they
Speaker 2: don't need anyone.
Speaker 7: I don't feel that way in any way.
Speaker 2: I could want to a lot of single women I
Speaker 2: know are like fucking fantastic.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say, the New York single woman
Speaker 6: and the New York single man are two very different
Speaker 6: species of person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just because it's a different lifestyle. Because yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that, Like, actually I kind of agree with that.
Speaker 2: I don't know a lot of tremendous single guys, Like
Speaker 2: you're like one of the few. I know a lot
Speaker 2: of tremendous single women, a lot of tremendous single women.
Speaker 3: Yeah I'm no, I'm not, And you are one of
Speaker 3: the few. Mic, you really are a tremendous guy.
Speaker 7: But the broader point that I'm just trying to make
Speaker 7: is that, like I hate being condescended to by people
Speaker 7: like this, Yeah, because I get it. Of course, I
Speaker 7: don't think on this show we've ever said that, like
Speaker 7: there's no such thing as a as a good. But
Speaker 7: don't condescend to me that because your relationship is great,
Speaker 7: that like like we should all.
Speaker 2: Throw I don't an email from his wife because I
Speaker 2: don't believe this model.
Speaker 3: I want to take second.
Speaker 2: That's what I was about to say. I was like,
Speaker 2: let's take this one step further. Sir, who wrote us?
Speaker 2: Who listens, and we appreciate you writing wife? Right the
Speaker 2: next one, I want your wife to write us. I
Speaker 2: would love all to give her. I want her assessment
Speaker 2: unfiltered by you. Hopefully we will never know. We just
Speaker 2: have to trust you. But I want to know what
Speaker 2: she thinks. No, she has to get what she needs.
Speaker 2: They need to handwrite it and have it, take a
Speaker 2: photo of it. Know what's the thing where you this
Speaker 2: stamp and.
Speaker 3: A baby baying.
Speaker 2: I need a public notary. You can, oh, you can
Speaker 2: do it on zoom. Now they have public notaries on zoom.
Speaker 2: I got it done sometimes zoom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 2: was great. There was just like some lawyer sitting alone
Speaker 2: in his bedroom and he was like, hi, he he
Speaker 2: was one step away from the end. But that was
Speaker 2: but that was the easiest notary I ever got.
Speaker 3: You know, it's just less notary. But and also like, okay,
Speaker 3: so yes, I hear you.
Speaker 2: I think, yes, if you don't get in a relationship,
Speaker 2: you're missing out on some parts. But I take that
Speaker 2: and my response to you is, I also think if
Speaker 2: you make the choice to get married, you're missing out
Speaker 2: on just certain levels of self actualization that I really
Speaker 2: don't think you can reach in a.
Speaker 3: Long term relationship. Either way, you're sacrificing.
Speaker 2: I don't really think one is better than the other,
Speaker 2: but I definitely think to say that. You know, people
Speaker 2: in marriages love to say, oh, you're missing out on
Speaker 2: so much if you don't get married. I say that
Speaker 2: same that point back to you, guys, and not not
Speaker 2: out of hate, not of not of my choice is
Speaker 2: better than your choice or any like that. But I
Speaker 2: really think the same is true for married people. I
Speaker 2: think there's a lot that you're missing out of, and
Speaker 2: there's levels of self actualization and like personhood and development
Speaker 2: and aha moments that you're just not gonna get when
Speaker 2: you have that other person.
Speaker 3: There or our interview with doctor Depollo.
Speaker 6: Yeah, first of all, the happiest person I've ever spoken
Speaker 6: to in my entire thirty five years of existing, but
Speaker 6: the happiest person I've ever spoken to. Ye yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: everything she was saying. And I and I'm saying this
Speaker 6: as somebody who's in a relationship that I genuinely like,
Speaker 6: am thankful for pretty much daily. I'm like, she is
Speaker 6: absolutely right, And it makes me so sad that, as
Speaker 6: Kron was saying earlier, it's mostly women that have been
Speaker 6: convinced this, But I think society as a whole, like
Speaker 6: men and women have both been convinced this, just women.
Speaker 3: A little bit harder.
Speaker 6: Is that the relationship is the thing. The relationship is
Speaker 6: what you want to get into.
Speaker 2: And it's like, what if we spend our lives falling
Speaker 2: in and out of love with people as we see
Speaker 2: fit and.
Speaker 6: Are It's like, are the real orny is us with ourselves?
Speaker 6: Like that's so meaningful, And you have so much control
Speaker 6: over where you want to go, Like, truly, sky's the
Speaker 6: limit when you're single.
Speaker 3: When you are in a relationship, there are limits. There
Speaker 3: are limits. There's limits on who you could fuck if
Speaker 3: that's your agreement.
Speaker 6: There's limits on what to cook for dinner, because there's
Speaker 6: another human being that you have to be being considerate of.
Speaker 3: Another person is a real pain in the ass. Yeah. No,
Speaker 3: but it can be.
Speaker 2: And it's regardless of if they're the best person in
Speaker 2: the world, and I hope they are, but it still
Speaker 2: takes away energy from you.
Speaker 3: And I don't care what anybody says.
Speaker 6: Every human being should make sure that at least one
Speaker 6: day out of the week they are the only living
Speaker 6: creature in their home or apartments if you can, if
Speaker 6: you can figure that out, because it is so unhealthy
Speaker 6: to just be with another person all the time.
Speaker 3: It's so unhealthy for your soul.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just think it, really, It just really
Speaker 2: reeks of suspiciousness that single people never try to sell
Speaker 2: this single experience to married people, but married people are
Speaker 2: always trying to.
Speaker 3: Sell married life to us.
Speaker 2: The truth might be walking around being quiet, yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because they're happy.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And the only time we're talking about it is when
Speaker 2: we're constantly badgered by people saying, why you single?
Speaker 3: What do you That's that's.
Speaker 2: When we're talking about it, when we're fucking badgered.
Speaker 3: Yeah we're not. We're not just going out and standing
Speaker 3: on a milk crate. No, I was single for a long,
Speaker 3: like for like two years. I think it was.
Speaker 2: No one asked me. I think you were going through
Speaker 2: some stuff. To be honest, I think it's funny. Now
Speaker 2: it wasn't funny then, Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was like I never got that. That's why. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well I actually I get, I get, and again
Speaker 2: I get unreasonably angry because from time to time people
Speaker 2: will be like, oh, come to this place, will be
Speaker 2: like a lot of single guys, or like that's what's
Speaker 2: going to get you out, or try to like hook
Speaker 2: me up with someone, and I go, no, no, no, guys,
Speaker 2: not that that's not a priority.
Speaker 3: Like are you're not recording the whole time?
Speaker 7: Michael, No, no, no, no, no, no, I had I had
Speaker 7: something to add.
Speaker 3: No no, I'm can you imagine that was that was
Speaker 3: a stressful.
Speaker 5: No no no.
Speaker 3: My point is is not that that's what we get.
Speaker 2: My point is I find it extremely offensive that just
Speaker 2: because you are not in a relationship, everyone assumes that
Speaker 2: if you're not in a relationship the whole time, you want
Speaker 2: to be in a relationship.
Speaker 3: I go, no, if I wanted a boyfriend, not hard.
Speaker 3: We've we've established on the show.
Speaker 2: I yeah, I go, you know, I'm not I'm not looking,
Speaker 2: I'm not interested, I'm not that's not something I'm pursuing.
Speaker 2: You created a great life for yourself, and you enjoy
Speaker 2: your own company.
Speaker 3: I don't want to meet your friends.
Speaker 6: A relationship should always be the cherry on top to
Speaker 6: an already beautiful life you have. That goes for men, women,
Speaker 6: non binary, everybody in between, all the humans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I go No, I don't want to meet You're shitty.
Speaker 2: As Mike said left over Front, Michael, you have something
Speaker 2: to say, Well, I had.
Speaker 7: I had some there. I don't think I told this
Speaker 7: story on this show, but I was telling I was
Speaker 7: relaying it to somebody recently. During the that one week
Speaker 7: between Christmas and New Year's that's like a really tough week,
Speaker 7: especially if you're a single and alone.
Speaker 6: It's like my favorite week of the years.
Speaker 7: So I was just alone for a week. Nobody was
Speaker 7: in town. Nobody sounds like heaven is awful.
Speaker 3: Didn't you need a break though? You were so overworked
Speaker 3: this year.
Speaker 7: It's not a break when you're just kind of sitting there.
Speaker 3: You want to bond, you want to have a connection.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, it was bad with friends there, A
Speaker 7: lot of them have left.
Speaker 3: You could have come to my house. I was just
Speaker 3: kicking it. I I'm inviting him over to your place.
Speaker 7: Now, I'm sure, all right, go to What the fuck? So, Mike,
Speaker 7: I was talking to somebody that when I was in
Speaker 7: my early twenties I kind of had like a little
Speaker 7: fling with this woman's married now for probably almost a decade.
Speaker 7: We were just kind of like talking casually and she
Speaker 7: facetimed me and she was doing this, and I.
Speaker 3: Like what this guy is doing. She was trying to
Speaker 3: sell your marriage.
Speaker 7: The selling of marriage.
Speaker 3: It's weird.
Speaker 7: Click yeah, and her whole thing is just like I
Speaker 7: just like, like I love my husband so much. I
Speaker 7: just want other people to be as happy as we are.
Speaker 3: I fucked ten years ago.
Speaker 2: Ever called me and talked and give me.
Speaker 7: Never hooked up. We like worked together at the W
Speaker 7: and like it was never like that, but we.
Speaker 3: Were and wants to be your friend.
Speaker 7: Yeah. So she she said something to me because I
Speaker 7: was trying to like push past the subject. I was like,
Speaker 7: I'm fine, yeah, like I'm a little like I'm fine,
Speaker 7: I'm fine. She was like, well, I could like set
Speaker 7: you up with somebody that was in my sorority who
Speaker 7: like she's like she's single and she's about our age
Speaker 7: and she's you know, she's not really that like attractive,
Speaker 7: but she's still wow art.
Speaker 3: So I was just like, I just told she just confused.
Speaker 3: She doesn't know herself.
Speaker 7: Do you think that I'm just hanging out alone for
Speaker 7: the sake of because I because there's nobody in my
Speaker 7: life that I could just like pull down and be like,
Speaker 7: all right, you, let's get married. It's not really the point, yeah,
Speaker 7: of the like the experience of like trying to meet
Speaker 7: somebody that is like meaningful to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: And I think that's the thing. I think a lot
Speaker 7: of people that are married seem to get lost on
Speaker 7: the concept. I'm happy that anybody can do it and
Speaker 7: be very happy and find their person or whatever. But
Speaker 7: if you don't feel that way that you have that
Speaker 7: person in your life, like I personally, I would like
Speaker 7: to get there, but you can't just pick. They're not
Speaker 7: just hanging off of trees, right.
Speaker 3: This is not an easy thing. Dating is a lot
Speaker 3: of work.
Speaker 6: Finding a job is a lot of work, and dating
Speaker 6: they're both separately full time jobs, right, Sometimes, So it's
Speaker 6: like like and again, Michael Ozaranda, I just I've realized
Speaker 6: so recently a lot of these people are picking partners,
Speaker 6: not soulmates, and it's a completely different thing. And so
Speaker 6: with us, with our annoying, fucking art artsy fartsy minds,
Speaker 6: we're all looking for soulmates. So many people are content
Speaker 6: with partner, and more power to Yeah. I think if
Speaker 6: you can be content with a partner, your life's going
Speaker 6: to be easier to be frank, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: A partner is exactly what it says. It's a partner.
Speaker 2: A soulemate is pain in your fucking ass. Yeah, who's
Speaker 2: gonna make you? You're gonna fucking jump off a bridge
Speaker 2: one day? Yeah right, yeah, right, yeah, yep, I love huh.
Speaker 2: If you're willing to jump already for me, I'm not interested.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, thanks for that email.
Speaker 6: Thanks for email. I want to hear from your wife. Please,
Speaker 6: can we hear from your wife now? Just to see,
Speaker 6: just to see, Okay, Yeah, guys, after you come see
Speaker 6: us in Los Angeles on Valentine's Day for the ten
Speaker 6: thirty PM show. After you've had the dinner with you girls,
Speaker 6: come see us other places. This is going back a
Speaker 6: little chronologic order, but February ninth and tenth, if you're
Speaker 6: in New Jersey, it's a big state. But I'll be
Speaker 6: right across the river from Manhattan at Banana's Comedy Club
Speaker 6: headlining that. And then February twenty fourth is a Saturday
Speaker 6: Save the date links are not up yet. That's gonna
Speaker 6: be the next Wait What Live. And on March twenty
Speaker 6: second and twenty third, I am headlining the Blue Room
Speaker 6: in Springfield, Missouri. And my debut stand up comedy album,
Speaker 6: Good Girl Barbara, is that now a failed thank you
Speaker 6: so much for listening, is now available for you to stream.
Speaker 3: You can buy it. You don't have to do whatever
Speaker 3: you want.
Speaker 6: It's all the platforms anywhere you would get music or
Speaker 6: a comedy album, you can now listen to it.
Speaker 3: And I'm really proud of it. The jokes have.
Speaker 6: I mean, I recorded it a year ago and yeah,
Speaker 6: I listened back and I was like, okay, yeah it
Speaker 6: still hits. I like it, So yeah, I'm really I'm
Speaker 6: really excited about that. And then I have a Patreon.
Speaker 6: I've talked to you about this every week. Guys, you
Speaker 6: know the deal, but I'll remind you again. Every week
Speaker 6: I host group Zoom Sherapy.
Speaker 2: Where you can just come in for an hour and
Speaker 2: talk about whatever you want. And I gotta say, the
Speaker 2: people that I tracked don't do small talk, and I
Speaker 2: really love that we get deep if you're feeling suicidal,
Speaker 2: if you feeling This is not a replacement for therapy
Speaker 2: in any way, but it is nice to just fucking
Speaker 2: vent and get stuff off your chest. And a lot
Speaker 2: of times people are going through something similar and they
Speaker 2: could chime in with much more helpful advice than I
Speaker 2: could come up with. And I like using it as
Speaker 2: a you know, a kind not an open mic. But
Speaker 2: I'll insert humor when I find it appropriate.
Speaker 6: And I gotta say, comedy's healing and good at it
Speaker 6: in these circles. So Patreon dot com, slash Christina Hutchinson
Speaker 6: and then the Voices in Our Heads. My podcast on
Speaker 6: Big Mikey, Big Dong, Dicky Coscarellies Network, Slickback Studios comes
Speaker 6: out every Monday. And that's all for me.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: And then of the next Guys We Fucked Live experience
Speaker 2: in New York is going to be Thursday, March seventh
Speaker 2: at seven pm at the MasterCard Midnight Theater. So if
Speaker 2: you can't make it to the February one, jot that
Speaker 2: down in your calendar because there might be a little
Speaker 2: bit of a hey at us after that. We're not
Speaker 2: sure yet, we do not know what our lives. Will
Speaker 2: invite tickets and we'll do it more, but for me personally.
Speaker 2: Then February twenty ninth through March second, I am headlining
Speaker 2: the DC Comedy Loft and Washington, d C. With Chloe
Speaker 2: la Branch featuring and I have a bunch more dates.
Speaker 2: That poster will be coming out soon, but a bunch
Speaker 2: more dates for this spring, so stay.
Speaker 3: Tuned for a venue near you.
Speaker 2: And of course, my show Without a Country comes out
Speaker 2: every Wednesday on YouTube and also everywhere you listen to podcasts.
Speaker 2: It usually premieres around like nine pm at night on
Speaker 2: YouTube if you are like where does a premiere? But
Speaker 2: because I do recommend watching that show live. But it's
Speaker 2: been really great lately. We've been having so many amazing guests.
Speaker 2: We had a veterinarian on, we had a journalist on,
Speaker 2: really digging deep into things. So if you're interested in
Speaker 2: like asking why is the world.
Speaker 3: The way it is?
Speaker 2: If you want to get active, yeah, if you want
Speaker 2: to be an active participant in society, if you don't
Speaker 2: like America, if you love America, I think it's a
Speaker 2: show for all these kinds of people, but it's for
Speaker 2: people who want to be active participants in the world
Speaker 2: in which they think and strengthen their critical thinking skills.
Speaker 2: That's that show. Give it a listen, all right, yay,
Speaker 2: all right. I wanted to say real quick.
Speaker 6: Ashanti, a friend of the show, a friend and listener
Speaker 6: to the show, sent me an Instagram video yesterday. By
Speaker 6: the handle was the Cindy Noir and oh I r
Speaker 6: and oh yeah, and she did this kind of like
Speaker 6: stitch together Instagram post about how it's a really interesting
Speaker 6: concept that people pleasing is a form of manipulation.
Speaker 3: Oh I actually saw that.
Speaker 6: I think so true because Cindy was saying, She's like,
Speaker 6: the thing that got me to stop people pleasing immediately
Speaker 6: is when I realized the truth to it.
Speaker 3: It is one hundred percent manipulation.
Speaker 6: You're just using positive things to manipulate, but you're manipulating people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's self serving. Yeah, so self serving. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, if that's not I mean,
Speaker 2: my people pleasing things aren't really they're not. They don't
Speaker 2: really surface that much anymore, but they used to.
Speaker 6: My god, but a lot of people I think struggle
Speaker 6: with people pleasing, And so if you are somebody who
Speaker 6: struggles with it, I invite you to reframe it in
Speaker 6: your head as a as a part of manipulation. You're
Speaker 6: not doing that person a service. You're not doing yourself
Speaker 6: a service by people pleasing. It's like such a trap.
Speaker 6: It's such a it's a prison, but the door of
Speaker 6: the prison.
Speaker 3: Cell is wide open.
Speaker 2: You's got to walk at it, right because, like she
Speaker 2: kind of explains, like they're they're yesing the people pleasers
Speaker 2: are yesing people basically to manipulate the reaction that they
Speaker 2: want out of the person, right, yeah, which is like
Speaker 2: I did watch that, yeah one oh one manipulation and
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, I can't believe that's what a what
Speaker 2: a profound, simple thing that's kind of been lying there
Speaker 2: this whole time about people pleasing that I've never looked into.
Speaker 6: So thank you Ashanti and at the Cindy Noir and
Speaker 6: I just wanted to read this really quick. I read
Speaker 6: this on the bonus episode a little bit. I'm revisiting
Speaker 6: this book Woman Code. I was reading it last night
Speaker 6: in bed. Usually I read to go to sleep, but
Speaker 6: then I ended up reading like a hundred pages of
Speaker 6: this book, and I was very excited.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I need to talk about.
Speaker 6: This again on the show because a couple of people
Speaker 6: DM me when I talk about last year. But you know,
Speaker 6: my birthday is coming up in a month ish, February nineteenth,
Speaker 6: and usually I'll start celebrating my birthday February first, and
Speaker 6: my preferred way of celebrating is just to.
Speaker 3: Buy my stuff. I buy myself stuff, say anything I want.
Speaker 3: But instead this year.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm going to work on the relationship I
Speaker 6: have with my own body and my health instead of
Speaker 6: buying shit. I'll probably also buy some stuff, But you know,
Speaker 6: but this book is really intriguing and one of the
Speaker 6: reasons why the second time I've read this it just
Speaker 6: the information hits more.
Speaker 3: I'm like, fuck, how do people not know this?
Speaker 6: How are women going to doctors to guide ecology appointment
Speaker 6: and the guynecologists I've never heard of guide to coologists
Speaker 6: talk about any of the shit. And this is so
Speaker 6: vital to living your life. So she talks about cycle sinking,
Speaker 6: meaning your your menstrual cycle. There's four hormonal phases and
Speaker 6: in each phase, your hormone levels in your body are
Speaker 6: completely different. So you're going to be more skilled in
Speaker 6: certain areas than you are in others. And so she
Speaker 6: talks about she makes a case for really planning out
Speaker 6: your month, if you can buy with your cycle, and
Speaker 6: kind of if you can save certain activities like asking
Speaker 6: for a raise for when you're ovulating.
Speaker 3: And we've all, like you felt this? Have you ever
Speaker 3: felt that?
Speaker 6: I talk about this with my girlfriends a lot when
Speaker 6: I am ovulating, all know, because of the reaction of
Speaker 6: everybody around me, Like I just I'm much more magnetic,
Speaker 6: and I'll walk into a bar and get hit on.
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 2: I really feel very little change in my entire body
Speaker 2: or personality because of my mention menstrual cycle.
Speaker 6: To be honest, you're very You're one of the fortunate ones. Yeah,
Speaker 6: but yeah, this little, this little chunk. I just wanted
Speaker 6: to read Rebuilding your relationship with your body. I was
Speaker 6: never looking for the menstrual cycle to be the holy
Speaker 6: grail of my life. I came at this strictly from
Speaker 6: the standpoint of beeding to heal myself physically. Because she
Speaker 6: went to a doctor, she was overweighted, she had sistic acne,
Speaker 6: her hair was fucked up, and she her doctor was
Speaker 6: like Rod Bruce control. But what I found from honoring
Speaker 6: the four phases of my cycle, and what I see
Speaker 6: in the women I work with every day who learn
Speaker 6: these same skills, is that doing so gives a woman
Speaker 6: act says to so much more than a healthier, more fertile,
Speaker 6: more energetic body. Women who partner with their hormones live
Speaker 6: more efficiently and strategically. These women end up becoming the
Speaker 6: fullest expression of themselves and live as leaders and change
Speaker 6: agents in their own.
Speaker 3: Lives and communities. You can tell her client bases.
Speaker 6: New York City women, But the changes you'll make or
Speaker 6: require so much more than simply following my protocol for
Speaker 6: what to eat, what to do, and how to live
Speaker 6: each of the four phases of your menstrual cycle. For
Speaker 6: this plan to be successful and to truly heal your
Speaker 6: castaway condition, it must become an effortless part of your
Speaker 6: monthly experience, and that requires a fundamental paradigm shift in
Speaker 6: the current relationship you have with your body. Let's face it,
Speaker 6: many women would rather exist from the neck up and
Speaker 6: would prefer their bodies take care of themselves. And yet
Speaker 6: the hormonal breakdown that results from ignoring your woman code.
Speaker 3: This is the word that she's given.
Speaker 6: It is very likely what led you to pick up
Speaker 6: this book in the first place. That's why I want
Speaker 6: to make it clear. Living and sync with your weekly
Speaker 6: flux will actually bolster, not deter your career Secces. It's
Speaker 6: because you'll be leveraging your mental and physical abilities week
Speaker 6: by week to work more cleverly and seamlessly, instead of
Speaker 6: pushing against your hormonal current every step of the way.
Speaker 6: After living within this habit of sinking with my cycle
Speaker 6: for several years, I began to see even more profoundly
Speaker 6: how well is it fits not just with my own
Speaker 6: body's natural rhythm, but with how my brain is designed too.
Speaker 6: And this is the part that I was like, this
Speaker 6: is very interesting. Women's brains, I learned, function more holistically
Speaker 6: than men's brains, that is, with the richer conversation between
Speaker 6: the left and the right hemispheres. As a result, we
Speaker 6: synthesize multiple pieces of data simultaneously and feel better when
Speaker 6: we're integrating many different aspects of our lives at once.
Speaker 6: Men's brains, on the other hand, function in a more
Speaker 6: binary fashion. Each man is more dominantly right brained or
Speaker 6: left brained. That's why it seems easier for men to
Speaker 6: live their lives in a rather linear fashion, while women
Speaker 6: require a life in which were instantly synthesizing and integrating
Speaker 6: pieces of information. This reality of synthesis and integration can
Speaker 6: seem overwhelming and complex, which is why I was completely
Speaker 6: inspired when I discovered that syncing up with my cycle
Speaker 6: meant that I could leverage my own hormones and brain
Speaker 6: behavior and be incredibly productive and efficient.
Speaker 3: So little that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why man needed a girlfriend at the office
Speaker 2: and at home.
Speaker 3: Because I can't synthesize. Yeah, that was for you, Mike.
Speaker 3: That was for you.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 2: But if Mike leaves this show and immediately gets into
Speaker 2: a healthy relationship, oh my god.
Speaker 7: You know I've had that thought.
Speaker 3: Are you kay? We're just in his ear too much?
Speaker 3: Every week? I've had that conversation I want more for you, Mike. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well I mean, wait, what conversation like, whether you guys
Speaker 3: are in my ear too much? Yeah? We might be,
Speaker 3: but that's it.
Speaker 2: Then the conversation I think you na with your therapist
Speaker 2: is why am I so easily influenth? But also too
Speaker 2: it does I've never been around someone a lot and
Speaker 2: been like, oh my opinion changed.
Speaker 3: Either cult, it's.
Speaker 7: Hard to be a long time you guys have been
Speaker 7: in yes, And.
Speaker 6: I got to say talking about like we curning you
Speaker 6: and I and you too, Michael. We have a very
Speaker 6: unique experience with having to talk about relationships and sex
Speaker 6: and sexuality, and we want life unique.
Speaker 3: That's what I reate.
Speaker 2: It Every week is a lot you like, someone say draining,
Speaker 2: so I don't say it. Someone say it makes your
Speaker 2: own life implode on.
Speaker 3: And it's like, there's so much more to life than
Speaker 3: these topics.
Speaker 6: These topics are a big part of one's life that
Speaker 6: you want them to be, but like, there's so much
Speaker 6: more to life, but there is. It does something to you,
Speaker 6: the effects not yet known by talking about it so often.
Speaker 7: Well, I think really the thing for me that I
Speaker 7: think has affected me is that I We've kind of
Speaker 7: talked about this before, but I think what happens to
Speaker 7: me is that I sit here and I listen to
Speaker 7: you guys, and I listen to the listeners who will
Speaker 7: write in and kind of address their you know, bring
Speaker 7: up their problems with their boyfriends or guys they like
Speaker 7: or whatever. And I think that I take a lot
Speaker 7: of that stuff and I put it out into the
Speaker 7: world in my life. So when I'm in the well,
Speaker 7: the thing is, I really think that there is I
Speaker 7: try my best to be pretty self actualized and I've
Speaker 7: done a lot of work to try to get there.
Speaker 7: And I think what happens is you get out into
Speaker 7: the world as a man and you take those things
Speaker 7: with you, and a lot of times women are so
Speaker 7: not used to dealing with that that it I think
Speaker 7: a lot of times they don't know how to handle it.
Speaker 7: And I don't want to say that they're scared of it.
Speaker 7: Maybe that's an element of it, but I just think
Speaker 7: they're so much more comfortable with dealing with like what
Speaker 7: their do with men just kind of like the men
Speaker 7: that like Z exactly.
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, when men have standards, it annoys women.
Speaker 2: I will I've seen that all the time. I have
Speaker 2: been and I'll be all annoyed by men for having standards,
Speaker 2: and I go.
Speaker 3: But it's beyond don't do that.
Speaker 7: It's beyond standards. It's like it's it's being deferential in
Speaker 7: a lot of ways, it's being it's it's like being
Speaker 7: a good listener, being somebody that will kind of like
Speaker 7: ask about the day and actually listen, you know, and
Speaker 7: bring something up later. It's like, I think women say
Speaker 7: that they want that stuff, and I think that they do,
Speaker 7: but I think what happens is they want it from
Speaker 7: the guy that doesn't do it.
Speaker 3: They want it from the bad boy. Yeah, they want
Speaker 3: it from the guy that they change, right.
Speaker 7: Exactly, That's exactly right, Christina. So I think that because
Speaker 7: I'm here and I'm thinking about this constantly, and I'm
Speaker 7: thinking about like what I heard that week and being like,
Speaker 7: all right, well, like let me try to address this
Speaker 7: in my own life. I think a lot of times
Speaker 7: it like kind of comes back to bite me in
Speaker 7: the ass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say, oh my good woo woo for
Speaker 2: a second, the relationship that I'm in now did not
Speaker 2: start off healthy in any way and remained unhealthy for
Speaker 2: many years. If somebody read it wrote to us and
Speaker 2: was like, this is the situation was exactly my situation, I'd.
Speaker 3: Be like, bitch, what what are you doing?
Speaker 5: Run?
Speaker 6: But I gotta say, like it is, and part of it,
Speaker 6: like the noise, You have to shut out the noise
Speaker 6: while still taking in whatever this person that you're trying
Speaker 6: to date is like doing and stuff, but it's also
Speaker 6: a matter of I don't think people talk about this enough,
Speaker 6: like sitting still with yourself and going, how do I
Speaker 6: want to feel in a relationship like my most ideal
Speaker 6: romantic relationship for me?
Speaker 2: That I could think of? What would that feel like
Speaker 2: for me? Anenterpist loves to ask that question, but I think.
Speaker 6: But that's and that's what I started doing, certainly over
Speaker 6: the pandemic. It's one of the reasons why I've loved
Speaker 6: One of the many reasons why I loved it the
Speaker 6: pandemic is because I actually got to sit and think
Speaker 6: and there was no noise of like wait what You
Speaker 6: just got to get to it.
Speaker 2: It's so simple, but you just got to go, how
Speaker 2: would I feel safe? Okay, well what does that mean?
Speaker 2: I feel listened to? Like you were saying, Michael, that
Speaker 2: example you brought is a beautiful one. In a relationship
Speaker 2: of any kind, when somebody brings up something again, it's
Speaker 2: like Karen's gift giving skills, so you're like, holy shit,
Speaker 2: you listen in a very intimate, deep way that's like
Speaker 2: beautiful and feels like what's a lot like it's a
Speaker 2: lot of love and so thinking of those things. I'm
Speaker 2: not letting yourself get drowned out by all the you know,
Speaker 2: dumb butchery we're reading in the zimbox.
Speaker 7: Well, and a lot of times it's either like like
Speaker 7: I think, coming from a male perspective, A lot of
Speaker 7: times it I think it feels sort of like like
Speaker 7: you said, Christina, like they remember Hannah bernerd told the
Speaker 7: story about her and Dez.
Speaker 2: I loved that story when Dez was like, you're going
Speaker 2: to play games, I don't want to be with you by.
Speaker 7: But I think that works. Another marriage, I don't know
Speaker 7: it does was like before that, but I think that
Speaker 7: works because it's like a guy who like she was
Speaker 7: kind of already a little bit a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I think it works. Like I honestly I had I
Speaker 7: had more women who I think were into me when
Speaker 7: I was like less, when I was doing less work
Speaker 7: on myself, women that were interested in me, like and trying.
Speaker 3: To get to meet this I see.
Speaker 7: I mean now I think that like women like spending
Speaker 7: time with me, but they like it to a point,
Speaker 7: and then I think when they when they it's time
Speaker 7: to kind of make a decision on whether or not
Speaker 7: we're going to like, well, they don't.
Speaker 3: Want to be required to show up for you.
Speaker 2: It is exhausting when someone actually like has standards and
Speaker 2: you have to. Like, we as women, I think we're
Speaker 2: not used to having to be on our best behavior.
Speaker 3: I think that is a very accurate that could be it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it's a very accurate thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean yeah, I mean, and also I
Speaker 2: mean I think like week to tweak, Like, I think
Speaker 2: sometimes the listeners misconstrue our how draining it is to
Speaker 2: have to like use like something that's like a core
Speaker 2: part of human existence, like your relationships as fodder kind of,
Speaker 2: and to constantly overanalyze it. So sometimes I think it
Speaker 2: comes off as like we're burned out on the show,
Speaker 2: and I realize that when in reality, it's like I
Speaker 2: would love.
Speaker 3: To see any of you do this for ten years.
Speaker 2: We really love That's why I'm talking about hormones now
Speaker 2: right Like I don't want to talk about dick right now.
Speaker 9: I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't feel like it it is to constantly
Speaker 2: have to ask yourself questions and analyze your own behavior.
Speaker 2: It's just really it's difficult, and it's going to make
Speaker 2: you see things in yourself that like you're I mean,
Speaker 2: I just feel like it's been wonderful because you're like,
Speaker 2: I feel like we advance like more quickly because we're
Speaker 2: forced to because it's our homework every week.
Speaker 3: But also it's like, yeah, it makes.
Speaker 6: You put in a bad mood a lot, Yeah, because
Speaker 6: then it makes other people's like bad behaviors more jarring
Speaker 6: in a way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then kind of going off the bad behavior.
Speaker 2: This actually goes into one of the things I wanted
Speaker 2: to talk about in the intro this week, which is
Speaker 2: I was thinking about it and I was like, I
Speaker 2: feel like women are more boring than we think we
Speaker 2: are on dates because we are so used.
Speaker 3: And I knew you would agree with me. I knew
Speaker 3: you would agree with me. I feel like agree with you.
Speaker 2: I feel like we are just kind of it's been
Speaker 2: set up society again. This is heterosexual that we show
Speaker 2: up and we look pretty and we sit there. And
Speaker 2: part of it is that, you know, men don't love
Speaker 2: listening to us talk a lot. I mean, I know
Speaker 2: that's not true for you, but there are many men
Speaker 2: who don't enjoy listening to it.
Speaker 3: But and and so we don't know how to be
Speaker 3: interesting and.
Speaker 2: More importantly, like we don't how to we don't know
Speaker 2: how to sell ourselves on a day, because there is
Speaker 2: an element of selling yourself on a date. And I
Speaker 2: really feel like I felt like that when I was
Speaker 2: on the Improptu date for two, like hecked Like both
Speaker 2: those guys had really interesting stories and I don't want
Speaker 2: to say they were cueued up to impress me, but like,
Speaker 2: and I'm sitting there thinking, I'm like, I am a
Speaker 2: really interesting person. I'm literally living my dreams. I have
Speaker 2: a ton of interesting stories, but like I don't have
Speaker 2: the ability, like on a Rollodex, to just pull them
Speaker 2: up and prepared in a discinct way with like you know,
Speaker 2: almost like a stand up act. These men had things
Speaker 2: prepared like this one guy they act, Yeah, he told
Speaker 2: me to give me the hits, like we're getting a
Speaker 2: story about.
Speaker 3: Like the death of his of his of his dog.
Speaker 2: And then the other guy, I mean, the other guy
Speaker 2: just had has a whiley entertaining life because of other factors.
Speaker 2: But like, and in my head, I'm sitting there going
Speaker 2: like I probably am coming office boring right now, and like,
Speaker 2: I guess it doesn't matter, because I think these two
Speaker 2: men are like kind of like trying to impress me.
Speaker 3: So in the dynamic right now, it doesn't matter. It
Speaker 3: doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: But it really made me think of like if I
Speaker 2: was trying to impress one of these guys, like I
Speaker 2: don't got I don't have the goods right now to
Speaker 2: do so.
Speaker 3: And I think that's like true.
Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of my guy friends talk about
Speaker 2: going on dates with women they were interested in and
Speaker 2: being bored. And I think when we're interested, and I
Speaker 2: think when we think about ourselves as women, like you know,
Speaker 2: we should on men all the time, and like we're
Speaker 2: like impress us, show up, do this. But it's like
Speaker 2: are you we don't do that? Are you being interesting
Speaker 2: on your dates? Do you have a story? Do you
Speaker 2: have a first date act? Because I sure as hell.
Speaker 3: Doc I do. What are you talking about? That's why
Speaker 3: I love dating.
Speaker 6: I got I got aliens, ghosts, I got so many
Speaker 6: stories on date.
Speaker 3: I love dating because I got so many.
Speaker 2: Well, but aliens and ghosts is just you other other
Speaker 2: information that you know. I have information that I know
Speaker 2: that I can pass along. I'm talking about like kind
Speaker 2: of stories that say to show who you are going
Speaker 2: to le's see the thing.
Speaker 6: Is you can't for I guess for me going to
Speaker 6: on a date like with saying I'm going to talk
Speaker 6: about this and this, you can't do that because you
Speaker 6: don't know how the vibe is going to be. You
Speaker 6: got to see what interests that other person and what
Speaker 6: are there sure areas of expertise or areas of interest
Speaker 6: or where does there where.
Speaker 7: Do you live? Christina? You could?
Speaker 3: I love dates.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, I'm super good at like talking to
Speaker 2: people and like listening and getting deep into and like
Speaker 2: I can go deep fast, like that's no problem. But
Speaker 2: as far as like, like I sell myself about my
Speaker 2: life story not really, No.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I sell yourself about your life because you know,
Speaker 6: I don't really have that.
Speaker 3: No. I think you need to though.
Speaker 2: If you're trying to press someone, you need to have
Speaker 2: you need to have a story off which you're selling yourself,
Speaker 2: and I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't have that.
Speaker 2: I also think that my career, to me, my career
Speaker 2: is that. But when am I supposed to say, look
Speaker 2: at my Instagram page?
Speaker 7: No, of course, not right. Yeah, well, I I think
Speaker 7: it's a fair point, Carenn. I think that it is.
Speaker 7: I think it it's probably a role reversal for women.
Speaker 7: I think that, Yeah, it's this weird formula where I
Speaker 7: think a lot of women are conditioned to like listen
Speaker 7: on dates and men will just kind of like bloviate.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I just see so many women online talking
Speaker 2: about going on boring dates, and I got it, and
Speaker 2: I gotta be asked half the time, and especially if
Speaker 2: I know these people, I go, I think it's you.
Speaker 7: It might be And a lot of times to two
Speaker 7: boring people find each other and have a great time
Speaker 7: on a date, which I've always found that's cool.
Speaker 3: I love people find each other. It's like that is beautiful.
Speaker 3: It's so there was such specific shades of vanilla.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well, and I personally think that I'm a very interesting
Speaker 7: person and obviously like like, uh, people choose the people
Speaker 7: that they want to go on a second date with
Speaker 7: for a lot of reasons. But there have been times
Speaker 7: where I felt that I was interesting on a first
Speaker 7: date and I was just like, I'm giving you the
Speaker 7: a stuff here, yeah, like I'm teaching you. I'm like
Speaker 7: talking about some things that I like. I'm talking about
Speaker 7: my family a little bit. My sister went down syndrome.
Speaker 7: Everybody got to hit that got hit you.
Speaker 2: But you can be interesting on a date and still
Speaker 2: have a connection. I've been interested by men on dates
Speaker 2: and still not wanted to fuck them, so I didn't
Speaker 2: go on a second date.
Speaker 7: There's been very few times for me where I have
Speaker 7: found a woman interesting that I wanted to like, see again. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and then I just was like, all right, well, if
Speaker 7: you're interesting, but I don't want to see you again,
Speaker 7: that's my personal preference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's a flipped Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean because sometimes ugly people are interesting. Oh yes,
Speaker 2: usually they're more interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have to be. Yeah, and I appreciate pet more.
Speaker 3: But it's so much harder to be interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, because I think I have like a very interesting
Speaker 2: and unique world of view. But as far as life
Speaker 2: and my we have my life of the date. But
Speaker 2: also it's like I'm also the and this is this
Speaker 2: hurts me in stand up too. I just don't have
Speaker 2: the urge to get people to like me. I don't care,
Speaker 2: so I don't try. But that's interesting, But it's not
Speaker 2: interesting on a date when you have to sell yourself,
Speaker 2: like you need to have the motivation inside yourself a
Speaker 2: little bit to make someone want to like you and
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: That's missing. I don't have it.
Speaker 2: It's the same reason. It's the same reason why I
Speaker 2: stray away from meeting people's parents because I know I
Speaker 2: lack that and I don't want to upset my partner.
Speaker 2: But you know, I like I and I it's also
Speaker 2: like really hard for me to like fake.
Speaker 3: Totally, totally, totally, so I just go.
Speaker 2: If I avoid then no disaster, right, I just don't
Speaker 2: have that that that, Oh I hope they like me, well,
Speaker 2: you know what I think. I don't think that cross
Speaker 2: my mind. Maybe like maybe Victoria Beckham, I would want
Speaker 2: her to like me. Yeah, but that's pretty much it.
Speaker 7: That's the difference I have that.
Speaker 3: Well, also, when.
Speaker 2: You're going on a date, when you're going on a date,
Speaker 2: you don't know if you want this person to like
Speaker 2: you yet because you don't know if you like them,
Speaker 2: so it's all just like sizing each other up for
Speaker 2: a while. Well, but no, I don't have that at all,
Speaker 2: because for me, it's like, if this is the person
Speaker 2: for me, they'll just sense my my energy and they'll
Speaker 2: like me innately.
Speaker 3: But honestly, that works great. I kind of agree with that.
Speaker 2: It works a lot, and so I know it's right,
Speaker 2: you know, but I think there, I think I should
Speaker 2: have a more I mean, this is like for a
Speaker 2: thing that I'm not doing with dating, but like I
Speaker 2: just feel it was more like a commentary on women
Speaker 2: in general. I just think, like, maybe watch yourself, Like
Speaker 2: if you think you are you're constantly bored on dates,
Speaker 2: like maybe maybe you're the boring one. Yeah, maybe looking
Speaker 2: at that compact me or a girl. Yeah that's right,
Speaker 2: Boredom's coming from that mouth hole. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: But this guest is not boring. No, she's certainly not.
Speaker 6: God the least boring guest we can possibly ask for.
Speaker 6: I'm so so excited to have her back. She's she's
Speaker 6: an amazing New York City stand up comedian and she's
Speaker 6: host of the Zillennial News show News for.
Speaker 3: Women, ladies and gentlemen. Please welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Chloe taking the after.
Speaker 5: Cat Rison.
Speaker 10: P gamble, scare me, no serve f dcost.
Speaker 5: Near the border. I see.
Speaker 1: A bad out.
Speaker 5: Calling young ries.
Speaker 1: All always want to tie?
Speaker 5: Is it a wading by?
Speaker 11: You are here with the friend of the podcast while
Speaker 11: the Branch stand up comedian extraordinary, hard, hard worker, working
Speaker 11: hard working, working, hard professional as it gets.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hell yeah, welcome back, Chloe.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me really crossed the splash last
Speaker 2: time you were on the podcast, So did I. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: I mean you're you're you're an example of someone who
Speaker 2: you have a lot of stories that are extremely interesting
Speaker 2: and reveal, like seventy five lifetimes that you've lived before
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 3: Every time I see TJ Miller, he just says, you
Speaker 3: got the best stories, and like, wow, kind of that
Speaker 3: coming from TJ. We walk over to random person, like
Speaker 3: a stranger at the bar who's not even coming. This
Speaker 3: girl great stories, and I'm like, I've never even told
Speaker 3: TJ a story. What he just senses it. He told
Speaker 3: himself a story about you. Yeah, he's great.
Speaker 6: We're talking about buying stuff before we start, well, no,
Speaker 6: and then you had something to say and I didn't
Speaker 6: want you to forget it.
Speaker 3: Oh well no, I just love buying stuff.
Speaker 2: Christina and Chloe are talking about like buying a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff, and Christina's like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I'm an attict. I just can't keep buying.
Speaker 2: And what I wanted to add to the conversation was like, no,
Speaker 2: we all like buying stuff.
Speaker 3: Christina it's not. It's not.
Speaker 2: We're not snorting fucking key chains from Amazon on the table.
Speaker 3: It's called retail therapy for a reason. You literally all
Speaker 3: like it. Well, yeah, but for sure. But I have this.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to write a joke about this. You know,
Speaker 6: the Stranger, which is where a guy sits on the book.
Speaker 2: By Camo, But you mean the drink the thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know who Camo is. I'm sure she's great.
Speaker 2: It's a guy and he sits on his hand, sit
Speaker 2: on your dominant hand until it falls fully asleep, and
Speaker 2: then you jerk off with that hand, and it feels
Speaker 2: like a stranger's jerking you off because.
Speaker 7: I don't know a single man that's ever done that.
Speaker 7: What I know that I really done.
Speaker 3: Heard about that, But I also have never met anyone
Speaker 3: who's done it. Well, maybe I have, and you only
Speaker 3: you know them.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they only tell me those things because they
Speaker 2: feel safe.
Speaker 3: But my version of the stranger is getting super.
Speaker 6: Stoned at night alone in my home and buying all
Speaker 6: this shit online and I'm forgetting about it, and then
Speaker 6: it's like the whole week is Christmas and.
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is awesome.
Speaker 2: I'm my own best friend some stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah go, that's the joke. Yeah, what's the joke? And
Speaker 3: what you just said? Yeah? Yeah done. Oh wow, we're
Speaker 3: like Chloe at her day job. We're just multidasking earthquake.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Mike.
Speaker 2: I mean I really I would really like if you
Speaker 2: if you love us in the show, and this might
Speaker 2: be considered assault, but we don't really have an HR
Speaker 2: here at guys we fucked you would go home and
Speaker 2: try the stranger and then come back and report it
Speaker 2: back to us.
Speaker 3: Nowt that's actually very true. Are you dedicated? Are you
Speaker 3: do you care about us?
Speaker 7: I'll do it. I mean you to do that?
Speaker 6: Okay, Well where asking you to make your hand go
Speaker 6: numb and then then flick your dick to it your dick?
Speaker 6: Well yeah, I was just I was trying to make something.
Speaker 6: I bailed halfway through.
Speaker 7: I really want to do it. I just again, it's not.
Speaker 3: Really got to sit on it.
Speaker 7: I think it's just presented in in like society is
Speaker 7: something that guys do all the time that every guy's like,
Speaker 7: oh yeah, dude, Like like I gave myself a stranger
Speaker 7: last weekend? How great was that? I just don't know
Speaker 7: anybody that's ever done that, Like.
Speaker 3: I've talked to a few guys who have.
Speaker 7: It's so funny to me because I just always thought
Speaker 7: that that was just like some joke that basically got
Speaker 7: and oh good pun. I didn't mean to do that,
Speaker 7: but yes, thank you, Chloe, But I yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't know anybody that's ever.
Speaker 2: Done somebody next week Eric boyfriend by the way, Eric were.
Speaker 3: Letting that out of the bag, didn't Yeah, is that okay? No,
Speaker 3: I don't know, cut it, Eric, ch It's fine, I
Speaker 3: don't Yeah, but trembling, he was like, I don't know
Speaker 3: if I shouldn't tell anyone scared of me?
Speaker 6: Nice, Well, I don't think i've ever said great boyfriend anybody.
Speaker 2: Now you know why I reported backside because you said
Speaker 2: the same thing about me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right exactly. She had such rave reviews.
Speaker 6: I was like, we must meet this angel of a
Speaker 6: man and a nice guy, great advice, great face, good demeanor,
Speaker 6: like chill, you know.
Speaker 3: Just like, yeah, I was very impressed. Yeah, he's quite hot.
Speaker 3: How'd you guys have you guys like that? Really complimentsing
Speaker 3: like how he is as a person. You're like, it's
Speaker 3: a real peace of me. I'd fuck, I'd give him
Speaker 3: a stranger. I we met through Ryan Long.
Speaker 6: Tell the real story, Chloe, we met on nowhere, Okay.
Speaker 2: The actual like no, no, no, right through Ryan Long
Speaker 2: isn't a lie, but like the you know, the nitty
Speaker 2: gritty of the circumstances. To me, I findrety hilarious if
Speaker 2: you don't mind sharing.
Speaker 3: I was on my journey at the time, which means
Speaker 3: I was drunk.
Speaker 7: And I.
Speaker 3: Had had Like so, Ryan was headlining laughbost in the
Speaker 3: Big Club and I was headlining the shithole Knicks comedy stuff,
Speaker 3: which I just went back to last week, just out
Speaker 3: yes and out my window of the hotel, it was
Speaker 3: just the Wilburg with the signs of everyone were friends
Speaker 3: with their names popping up. I'm like, yeah, it's just
Speaker 3: literally everyone we know. And I'm like and then I
Speaker 3: walk around a corner and Knicks is in a dark
Speaker 3: alley and the sign is falling off, and I go in.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, cool, and you can hear the bass
Speaker 3: from the nightclub underneath going on the whole show. Mmm.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 6: It was a lot, but it was love the sounds
Speaker 6: of a distant dance floor while you're performing comedy.
Speaker 3: Then if you don't get off the stage right at
Speaker 3: nine thirty, the DJ comes up behind you and starts
Speaker 3: setting up while you're on stage. Happened to you romance? No,
Speaker 3: because I was like, I gotta go. But I did
Speaker 3: get really heckled. I didn't I text you about those
Speaker 3: really drunk girls there. There were women, they were in
Speaker 3: their fifties. Eric was doing the show. He was featuring
Speaker 3: for me because I'm a fucking feminist, and I well,
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I fuck my opener. So maybe
Speaker 3: that's not feminism. It just more creepy brain misogynists. No,
Speaker 3: because women have more.
Speaker 6: Freedom to be creepy because we've allowed all the men
Speaker 6: to steal the creepy energy for so long.
Speaker 3: It's our turn.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, if feminism is equality, if that's how you're
Speaker 2: defining it, then yes, that is feminist.
Speaker 3: To fuck your opener feminist, it's equality. Yeah yeah, so
Speaker 3: oh yeah, so these really drunk women start heckling when
Speaker 3: Eric's on stage. It's talking about like global warming and
Speaker 3: one of we don't want to hear your political bullshit,
Speaker 3: we want jokes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then by the time I get on Philly's meth brother. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and they were like these like I was like, what
Speaker 3: are you guys doing. It's a birthday and she's like,
Speaker 3: I'm fifty, bitch, and I was like okay, and I
Speaker 3: was like, you guys want to get political or what
Speaker 3: and they were like no, and then they just kept
Speaker 3: like yelling during the whole show. So the security at
Speaker 3: Knicks didn't tell me the security guard there has been
Speaker 3: shot nine times and he's not well. But it's happy story. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I guess that's an anecdote.
Speaker 2: About how you can be a dumb bitch even well
Speaker 2: into your fifties.
Speaker 3: Oh for sure. And then they they get up and
Speaker 3: they just start leaving, like ten minutes into my set,
Speaker 3: all of them like knocking shit over and then I'm like,
Speaker 3: where are you guys going. They're like what out of here?
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, what do you run out
Speaker 3: of coke? And they're like, fuck you go. I hope
Speaker 3: you get fetanol in your coke and died. And then
Speaker 3: one of them was like, you're not even funny. I
Speaker 3: was like, and I was like, you'll never get custody
Speaker 3: of the kids and great. Then then they left and
Speaker 3: then one came back in and they're like, you're not funny.
Speaker 3: That's why were leaving. And I was like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: you're so lonely that at home that you need to
Speaker 3: come here and talk to somebody. Yeah, and then they
Speaker 3: just like screamed, and then I was like, you guys
Speaker 3: are cunts. So I didn't handle it.
Speaker 2: Well, but I do want to pop it and say,
Speaker 2: this is Chloe Sober, this is her so oh.
Speaker 3: This is not this is the other day you Yeah,
Speaker 3: you veered off the pe' sorry yeah okay. I was like, wait,
Speaker 3: is this how you met your boyfriend? No, no, I met
Speaker 3: him better. This is just that.
Speaker 2: This is just what happened literally this weekend at Nicks
Speaker 2: Comedy Stop. This is actually if we could clip this
Speaker 2: and then maybe we could do a collab with Nick's
Speaker 2: Comedy Stop because promotion for them, Yeah.
Speaker 3: That would be great. They have a huge following too.
Speaker 1: NIX.
Speaker 3: You can't get tickets to the wilbur Go to next co.
Speaker 2: I just started spiraling about her career and we just
Speaker 2: heard about a weekend at NIXT. We're like, okay, back
Speaker 2: to when you were in the green room with Ryan
Speaker 2: Long and you met Eric.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I was doing NIX and I was drinking
Speaker 3: and I did it a year. I do it every year.
Speaker 3: We have a little flavor about what NIX is. I
Speaker 3: do nicks everywhere. What the headspace that you were in was, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sarah arm Or the Talented was supposed to feature for me,
Speaker 3: but she had She said she wasn't going to book
Speaker 3: a hotel room till the day of because the moon.
Speaker 3: She had a good feeling at the moons. She's very
Speaker 3: into astrology. She said the moon would provide it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so she didn't need to get a hotel's day off
Speaker 3: because she had a feeling. Then the moon didn't provide,
Speaker 3: and it went.
Speaker 2: This is why women are taking seriously, and so I
Speaker 2: would say, yeah, I just went alone.
Speaker 3: I did get like a super expensive hotel room. I
Speaker 3: was like, okay, Jesus Christ, and I just had random
Speaker 3: people there. They put up like eight gas spots and
Speaker 3: I was, you know, at this point, I had bought
Speaker 3: the thing of mushrooms before it because and I hadn't
Speaker 3: had a drink in seventy six days, so I thought
Speaker 3: I was killing it. But I brought I just was like,
Speaker 3: I'll do some mushrooms. And I got this mushrooms called
Speaker 3: Texas Dick and reminds me of Jefferson. This this drug dealer.
Speaker 3: It's like private jet or something. They come to your
Speaker 3: house in a suitcase and you can get can't stem
Speaker 3: in New York? Oh yeah, I know this guy with
Speaker 3: like a silver suitcase.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well, oh caps, I can't out, so I
Speaker 2: get chocolate bars.
Speaker 3: I No, I got caps and stems. So you bought.
Speaker 2: The mushrooms from a suitcase in New York and then
Speaker 2: went to Boston?
Speaker 3: Yes, in the expensive hotel? Okay, yeah, so I go
Speaker 3: to that hotel. I'm doing nixt the first night, Eric. Oh,
Speaker 3: I was super hungover because I met this guy who's
Speaker 3: twenty one the night before and he was driving to
Speaker 3: Boston and he was like, oh, give you a ride.
Speaker 3: He was a comedian and I was like, all right, great,
Speaker 3: but I'm leaving a night and we're driving all night.
Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, so I'll guess I should
Speaker 3: get some coke tonight so I could stay up and
Speaker 3: talk in the car. And so then I started doing
Speaker 3: coke that night and then we get there. I sleep
Speaker 3: at his parents' house, but luckily his parents were in
Speaker 3: Puerto Rico, so I slept on the pull out couches.
Speaker 2: His parents a round twenty one year old guy. We're
Speaker 2: a comedian. Nice guy, and you knew him previously.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 3: I met him that night and he ended up feature we.
Speaker 2: Give you some you're still I know, we give you
Speaker 2: two opportunities to make the story safer, and you said, nope, cocaine.
Speaker 3: He ended up posting for me at NIXT this weekend.
Speaker 3: It worked out.
Speaker 2: I like how Chloe Chloe is, you know, like a
Speaker 2: sweet little comedian, but she has stories like she's from
Speaker 2: was like Ozzy Osbourne.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, But You're also one of the few
Speaker 6: people that I've met in my life where I'm like,
Speaker 6: I need to be friends with you when we're in
Speaker 6: our seventies.
Speaker 3: Thank you. I just need some I love it.
Speaker 2: Okay about sixties, I'll take thirty.
Speaker 3: Now you're gonna make You're gonna make it next year
Speaker 3: I do NIXT. Oh my god. So that yeah, nice guy.
Speaker 3: And then I went to my hotel and then you know,
Speaker 3: super hung so hungover, and I started drinking whatever terrible
Speaker 3: show that night. The next day, I woke up a
Speaker 3: beer too, because I was chilling at the hotel alone.
Speaker 3: And that's what you do when you're a man and
Speaker 3: so next to I'm like super old like black dude
Speaker 3: named Winston, and he was telling me all about this
Speaker 3: is a nice bar, but you gotta be careful.
Speaker 9: Thieves everywhere thieves. I was like really, and he's like,
Speaker 9: oh yeah. He's like I drove limousines for forty five years.
Speaker 9: Whoa I know these rich liars.
Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, Winston and oh, Winston's awesome.
Speaker 3: Then I went and I was going to stay at
Speaker 3: the I got a room instead at the hotel that
Speaker 3: Ryan and JJ and Eric were all staying at. I
Speaker 3: never met Eric before or I met JJ before, and
Speaker 3: so I take my stuff from the hotel before my
Speaker 3: show at Nick's, I go and I bring it to
Speaker 3: the green room at Laft Boston, and I'm like because
Speaker 3: I had to check out, you know, So I leave
Speaker 3: it there and then I see I think I saw
Speaker 3: Eric for like two seconds, and he like walks in
Speaker 3: because Ryan was like one of my friends is coming
Speaker 3: to do a guest spot, and they just thought I
Speaker 3: was going to be like another like JJ Lieberman type
Speaker 3: and then Ryan Eric says he walks in and he's like, oh,
Speaker 3: there's a hot girl here. This is Ryan's friend that's
Speaker 3: doing the guest spot. I was not drunk by that point.
Speaker 3: And then whatever I leave, I go do Nicks. I
Speaker 3: get cut off at Nick's before I get on stage.
Speaker 3: I got cut off before I did an hour. Wait
Speaker 3: and you get cut off from drinking? Yeah, okay, who
Speaker 3: the bartender at Wow? What was his name?
Speaker 2: Nick?
Speaker 3: Is that Nick? His name was Stop? I love the
Speaker 3: Knicks comedy Stop. I love that they cut you off
Speaker 3: at the club and then invite you back the next year. Yeah,
Speaker 3: something about Nicks. This is really just a long form
Speaker 3: ad for next comust. They don't got a booker. He
Speaker 3: asked me for Rex the other day, for women Rex Women.
Speaker 3: I was like for the big club with a little club,
Speaker 3: because I booked I did Laugh Boston for a one
Speaker 3: nighter and I sold a lot of tickets randomly, and
Speaker 3: because there's a like a corporate event that they thought
Speaker 3: were my fans.
Speaker 2: Anyway, So moving on, So then don't give away all
Speaker 2: your secrets on air quoe whoa.
Speaker 3: So before I go to Knicks, I do the Don't
Speaker 3: Tell comedy because Nicks is at eight. They don't tell,
Speaker 3: like seven or something. So I get on Don't Tell.
Speaker 3: Then I meet these people there. I'm pissed. It's b
Speaker 3: yob everyone's out of alcohol. I'm like, this place sucks.
Speaker 3: And so I meet these like four people that are
Speaker 3: really drunk, and I was like, Oh, I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: headline another club around the corner. Do you guys want
Speaker 3: to come? And they're like yeah. So they walk with
Speaker 3: me to Nick's. I tell the bouncer they're in my
Speaker 3: college friends. They sit in the front row. One of
Speaker 3: them falls asleep during my set. Then then I meet
Speaker 3: these other girls at Nicks.
Speaker 2: Every time I sho closes next to you, guys got
Speaker 2: to do a shot.
Speaker 3: And then I bring these other four people to the
Speaker 3: show at Laugh Boston. So I'm like, Ryan, I brought
Speaker 3: some of my fans. And then I go into the
Speaker 3: green room and I see Ryan when I walk in.
Speaker 3: I right when I get in, and I order a
Speaker 3: tequila soda from this guy because I headlined out a
Speaker 3: year ago. And it was the sound guy Eddie, who
Speaker 3: I made out with the year ago when I was there,
Speaker 3: and I brought him to karaoke, and so I was like,
Speaker 3: good to see Eddie, you know, the regular only been
Speaker 3: there once. And then Ryan Ryan comes in he goes, yeah, Chloe,
Speaker 3: we got a four camera set up. Maybe you want
Speaker 3: to stop drinking. And I'm like, and I go bad
Speaker 3: news when Ryan tells you to stop drinking, and I
Speaker 3: was like, nah, it makes me funnier. And I go
Speaker 3: on stage and I do his six minute guess spot
Speaker 3: first of all, Before I go on stage, Ryan's lad
Speaker 3: somewhere else. Eric is just in the green room. My
Speaker 3: luggage is in the green room, and I just start
Speaker 3: changing in front of Eric and he's just sitting there
Speaker 3: and I'm like changing. I'm like, think I would wear
Speaker 3: something slutier for the next show, and Eric's like, who
Speaker 3: the fuck is this person? I don't even know his
Speaker 3: name by this point. So then Eric brings me up
Speaker 3: on stage. I'm so drunk. I'm just to do six minutes.
Speaker 3: I am in this like tiny shirt and I'm laying
Speaker 3: on my side on the stage like like a fucking mermaid,
Speaker 3: and I'm talking to a guy in the front row.
Speaker 3: I'm like, so would you fuck me? And classic comedy joke,
Speaker 3: a classic hack move. So then I this is your
Speaker 3: death jam. I didn't even know they did the light.
Speaker 3: I run the light by six minutes. First first six
Speaker 3: minutes I ran the light by six minutes. You were
Speaker 3: laying down in the bag, stand up, and I go
Speaker 3: and now for our headline, Ryan Long and it's just
Speaker 3: gonna be the feature. Next Eric just runs out because
Speaker 3: luckily he was in the green room and he brings
Speaker 3: up JJ and then I'm in the green room. After
Speaker 3: I'm talking to Eric, I was like, yeah, that was
Speaker 3: pretty good, right. I was like a pretty ballsy of
Speaker 3: me to lay on the stage. I was like, you
Speaker 3: don't see many comics who take risks like that in
Speaker 3: this indush street. I think I'm God at this point.
Speaker 2: You get drunk and it gives you Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: am the ship.
Speaker 3: You're like a tiny Chris Marley. And then I just
Speaker 3: opened my bag. I was like, tell him to have
Speaker 3: some mushrooms. And so then I opened the mushrooms. I
Speaker 3: start eating them. I look over Eric. I was like
Speaker 3: do you want some what? And Eric is like uh.
Speaker 3: And then I was like, stop being such a bitch.
Speaker 3: And I go and I sit on Eric's lap and
Speaker 3: I start shoving them in his mouth and he's like,
Speaker 3: I try to see how much you're putting in. I
Speaker 3: was like, stop being such a pussy. And then and
Speaker 3: then I shoved them all in his mouth, and he's like,
Speaker 3: and I put my fingers on his lips, so you
Speaker 3: assaulted him. And then then I kissed him on the
Speaker 3: mouth after. I had no interest in this man at
Speaker 3: this point, Okay, shows over, We're all out. You know,
Speaker 3: I think I'm talking to my fans. They don't know
Speaker 3: who I am. There's a step in repeat. I know
Speaker 3: it over once and then I get cut off. I laughed, Boston.
Speaker 3: But I knew some of the bartenders from the year before,
Speaker 3: so they're making me secret drinks something. God, Chloe.
Speaker 7: Ship still one story.
Speaker 3: This is how mad I get a lot done. If
Speaker 3: you get married.
Speaker 2: Stuff For a long time, we're tagging comedy stopping.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was you gets shad at the end though,
Speaker 3: all right, sorry, you're outside with your fans that aren't
Speaker 3: your fans. You step. Yeah, one of them was really drunk.
Speaker 3: I brought from the other show, and she's showing me
Speaker 3: she's wearing like those nipple pasties and I just rip
Speaker 3: it off and I slam it on the step and
Speaker 3: repeats are taking pictures and then Eric has his like
Speaker 3: luggage with him, like because he's a filming and I
Speaker 3: started talking to him, and I was like, so you're
Speaker 3: really a male model and he's like yeah, and I
Speaker 3: was like, my mom was a model. I get it.
Speaker 3: And then Eric Sais I said to him, just kiss me,
Speaker 3: and I'm make him kiss me. He's significantly taller than you.
Speaker 3: I don't remember any of this. And then we go
Speaker 3: back to the hotel.
Speaker 2: I also love that that really drunk check that you
Speaker 2: just met says just kiss me, and he does.
Speaker 3: He doesn't. That's an obedient man. Also, JJ was drinking
Speaker 3: red wine. He doesn't drink often, but he was just
Speaker 3: enjoying himself and I accidentally bumped into him and spilled
Speaker 3: his red wine all over him. That's funny to do
Speaker 3: to JJ, that's funny. You know that game mouse Trap
Speaker 3: when we're kids. Hell yeah, this is the craziest game
Speaker 3: you'll ever see. So it's like it's like a little
Speaker 3: Shenanigans to get into on a game board. But it's
Speaker 3: just like you know the trap. The trap comes down over.
Speaker 6: The mouse, but you have to like the marble falls
Speaker 6: and goes down. The feel like this is this is
Speaker 6: your night that night, and the coming down to the
Speaker 6: mouse was you finding love?
Speaker 3: This is anyway drinking for me. The thing is people
Speaker 3: give alcoholic shit. Oh they're lazy. We get a lot done. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, so I was talking about this last night. Some
Speaker 6: people genetically alcohol is an upper for them. I drink
Speaker 6: alcohol and I'm like, I want to go to bucking bed.
Speaker 6: Oh no, once I drink looks and I'm like, if
Speaker 6: I had that, if alcohol gave me that feeling, I
Speaker 6: would a hundred percent be an alcoholic.
Speaker 2: But when I was in my twenties it gave me
Speaker 2: that feeling. Then my thirties is just not made me tired.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how. Sometimes I can make it.
Speaker 3: I can start drinking in the morning and be up
Speaker 3: to for you.
Speaker 6: Whoa, Yeah you got that gene then, and it makes
Speaker 6: sense like an alcoholism Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: But part part of.
Speaker 6: The alcoholism gene is that it's an upper I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, until it's not, because I can get really I
Speaker 3: get so you'll lose your home, Yeah, so your kids?
Speaker 3: So you kick your dog? Doesn't have a dog over. Yes, sorry,
Speaker 3: you guys are dog owners. I know you're Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 3: If kicked your.
Speaker 6: If someone kicked dog, I would murder them in front
Speaker 6: of everybody they've ever cared about.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So I was intense. I have a temper.
Speaker 3: I love that, so do I. And then sometimes drink,
Speaker 3: I get real angry. Oh really, I've never seen you yet.
Speaker 2: We've seen it, you have, I think, yeah, where party
Speaker 2: at the stand when we were trying to force you
Speaker 2: into an uber to go home because you were knocking
Speaker 2: over tables and we were we were trying to prevent
Speaker 2: you from ruining your entire career.
Speaker 3: Oh that was during and that was Halloween when I
Speaker 3: dressed as girl interrupted. This wasn't last year when I
Speaker 3: she was like two years ago. This right before I
Speaker 3: went to a rehabit and I was I dressed as
Speaker 3: girl interrupted. I was like, all over here, I was
Speaker 3: wearing like this ripped up shirt or were you angel?
Speaker 1: Of course?
Speaker 3: I was like, she took a Santa Slovsky approach. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was. And then I went downstairs and Ryan and
Speaker 3: Danny were like, get the fuck out of here because
Speaker 3: we were all it was a group chat attempted intervention.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, Danny's very it's always very sweet to
Speaker 2: you when you're drunk, and he and he was, you know, Danny,
Speaker 2: it had a nice childhood.
Speaker 3: So he is like, you know confused. Ryan is usually like,
Speaker 3: here's a dream judge. I didn't want to say it,
Speaker 3: but I was. I was like, Ryan's it wasn't helping. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I remember that because they were doing like
Speaker 3: roast battle or fight club downstairs, and I walked downstairs
Speaker 3: to check it out because I thought I was going
Speaker 3: to just get on and be a judge for no reason.
Speaker 3: And then there was some girl doing a Helen Keller
Speaker 3: joke and I started yelling on the only one in
Speaker 3: New York who does Helen Keller jokes. I missed that.
Speaker 3: That's hilarious though, Ena New York. Anyway, So back to
Speaker 3: the Eric love. Oh no, it was a long story.
Speaker 3: They cut up the bar.
Speaker 2: You you.
Speaker 3: Sexually assaulted him by forcing him to kiss you. Apparently
Speaker 3: I took him into the bathroom at the hotel and
Speaker 3: made him make out with me. Chloe pivot over here.
Speaker 3: Can you make a guy that tall when you're that
Speaker 3: much shorter make out with you? I guess you can.
Speaker 3: He keeps saying you want up sex with me, but
Speaker 3: you're too drunk, and I said, Eric, absolutely not. I
Speaker 3: was hooking up with JJ that night.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah, So Chloe whine yeah, and then
Speaker 3: that was the last thing. Oh, and then Eric was
Speaker 3: the camera guy, so I had to start messaging with Eric.
Speaker 3: I don't remember making out with him at all, and
Speaker 3: I so Ryan was like, yeah, Eric has your tape
Speaker 3: and I was terrified to watch my tape because I
Speaker 3: was like, I don't think I can watch this. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be so bad. And Eric had and I'm like how.
Speaker 3: I was texting him and I got his phone number.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, we're talking on Instagram. I was like,
Speaker 3: how bad is the tape? And he's like it's good.
Speaker 3: And I was like, how fucking bad is this tape?
Speaker 3: And then he like would and tell me? And then
Speaker 3: we started dming and then I looked at his Instagram.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, this guy's so hot.
Speaker 3: I had no idea. So funny. So then I was like,
Speaker 3: I think we should text. It'll make all this easier.
Speaker 3: So then we start texting and then I just facetimed
Speaker 3: him and I was like hey, and he was like hey,
Speaker 3: and I was like, how's my tape? And he was
Speaker 3: like what and I was like then I just sent
Speaker 3: him a picture like this is my outfit today? What
Speaker 3: are you wearing?
Speaker 2: You're getting on the web in time from Eternal Sunshine Vibes.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then like then two days later, I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm getting bored. I'm just gonna rip him a nude.
Speaker 3: So I sent him a nude and he got really confused,
Speaker 3: and then we were face time. We kept face timing,
Speaker 3: and he kept face timing when he's at the gym
Speaker 3: and then confused, yeah, because I sent him a nude
Speaker 3: because he was like I thought this was just business right, Well,
Speaker 3: what kind of a nude? I don't realice the top
Speaker 3: list or okay?
Speaker 6: And then was it like a tit two tits like
Speaker 6: me like both did like was it like it was
Speaker 6: just like a selfie?
Speaker 3: Like, oh, kind of okay? And then he was confused, yeah,
Speaker 3: and then we were and then I was facetiming with him,
Speaker 3: and when he's met with confusion, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: well you're like you're only twenty eight, and he was
Speaker 3: like twenty eight, I'm twenty four, and I was.
Speaker 7: Like fuck, oh oh, I was like shit.
Speaker 3: And then whatever, we just kept talking and I was
Speaker 3: like whatever he saw. And then three days later, I'm
Speaker 3: like he's the one, and I'm like super attached and
Speaker 3: then I'm just like fucking with him. I'm like, I
Speaker 3: have to see you, and he's like, okay, I guess
Speaker 3: I bought you a flight to Chicago.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 3: I like, was Eric an active participant in this relationship
Speaker 3: he bought the fight? No, I know.
Speaker 2: I'm so it's because I know now how much Eric
Speaker 2: likes you. But I I'm confused about how this really
Speaker 2: came to be.
Speaker 3: He just told me he thought he was like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is like an older, like hot, successful comic to me.
Speaker 3: To him, I was successful because you know, he just
Speaker 3: got out of preschool. So dude, his first day of
Speaker 3: preschool was nine to eleven. That is the age difference.
Speaker 3: It's upsetting. I was in the eighth grade on that.
Speaker 3: I was like, I was in like seventh grade. I
Speaker 3: was in high school. Yeah, I was just like, I
Speaker 3: was watching the planes go down, you were playing, you
Speaker 3: were watching Penguins Club? So it is what have you
Speaker 3: ever dated a younger guy? Never before him?
Speaker 6: It seems fun, it seems really I've never done it,
Speaker 6: but it seems very fun.
Speaker 3: Well, my boyfriend right before him was nine years older
Speaker 3: than me and had a seven year old kid. Oh,
Speaker 3: so it's a big difference to go from dating someone
Speaker 3: who has a kid's to data kid. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Eric was like when Eric did your Guys podcast, he
Speaker 3: was like, oh, well, I told him I had a
Speaker 3: girlfriend and I was younger. I was like, how much
Speaker 3: younger did you say, Eric? Because this is all going
Speaker 3: to be a lie except I tell everyone. I'm always
Speaker 3: like I just am like I'll never tell everyone in
Speaker 3: the age difference. And I meet like a homeless guy
Speaker 3: and I'm like, that's weird, Like you know, this was weird,
Speaker 3: Like at Starbucks they write on my coffee just like
Speaker 3: nine years older, that's my name, It's.
Speaker 6: Star So you met him while you were in the
Speaker 6: throes of like alcoholic coke and stuff, and then and then.
Speaker 3: Along the way you got sober.
Speaker 2: What what was the I always love hearing people's turning point,
Speaker 2: Like what this is very interesting was the turning point.
Speaker 3: When the So when I visited him, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not drinking. I had like not drank for like
Speaker 3: a week and a half. And he was like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: because I think it was mom someone and people. A
Speaker 3: lot of people in his family have drinking. Probably he's
Speaker 3: from Milwaukee. Yeah, everybody's a fucking alcoholic, so it doesn't
Speaker 3: like phase him, you know, because he's just around so
Speaker 3: many alcoholics and uh yeah. So I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I've been drinking a week and a half. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not really that bad because he is normal. So
Speaker 3: I lie, I'm like, it's not that bad. It was
Speaker 3: just like your best crazy nights for me because I
Speaker 3: had just drank in seventy six days, so I was
Speaker 3: such a lightweight that night. You know, usually I'm pretty cool.
Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, you were convinced. Man of
Speaker 3: its I've met met on a wild night.
Speaker 2: And then and then you're like, I never do this,
Speaker 2: and you're like when I say never, I mean like
Speaker 2: it's every six months.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm that bad. So I go to visit him
Speaker 3: and I'm like, yeah, I don't worry. What't we drinking.
Speaker 3: We're just gonna hang out. I booked like shows in
Speaker 3: Chicago because I was like a nerd in comedy there.
Speaker 3: Well I had Rosemont with you after my breakup, right,
Speaker 3: that went well, he didn't book me again for two years.
Speaker 3: Well that wasn't because of your comedy though, No, but no,
Speaker 3: thank you for that gift. And yeah, so I go there.
Speaker 3: He picks me up at the airport and I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm starving. Let's go somewhere. He's like, what are you
Speaker 3: hungry from? I'm like, I should want some bar food
Speaker 3: already fucking already have a plan. Yeah, I'm like, let's
Speaker 3: just go to like I love dive bar food. It's
Speaker 3: my favorite.
Speaker 2: Anywhere they serve drinks and food also drinks.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We sit down at a dive bar type of thing
Speaker 3: outside and I just immediately I'm like, oh, I have an
Speaker 3: I p A. And he was like you were drinking?
Speaker 3: Wait what? And I was like, I'm just nervous to
Speaker 3: meet you and just gonna calm me down. Were you
Speaker 3: genuinely nervous? I got really uncomfortable right when I got there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like he went to kiss me.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's so he picked me up in his
Speaker 4: in his little convertible.
Speaker 3: He has an Audi convertible.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I learned all about Star Wars and the parts and
Speaker 2: the ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He picked me up an airport with this top down
Speaker 3: and he's like he was wearing his like Clark Kent
Speaker 3: glasses and I was like a wreck like and yeah,
Speaker 3: so then we ordered some drinks. He was like I
Speaker 3: have a job interview. So we went back to Zoom
Speaker 3: for his job interview. And every time he has a
Speaker 3: job interview, he has one polo shirt for every work
Speaker 3: meeting and he puts on his polo shirt for his Zoom.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you're wearing the same polo every every week
Speaker 3: for the same company, and he's like, it's my meeting shirt.
Speaker 3: So cute. Anyways, Yeah, so then I'm like, Okay, do
Speaker 3: your interview, and then we gotta hit we gotta go
Speaker 3: to the liquor store and interview. And we go to
Speaker 3: the liquor store and I'm like, let's get a bottle
Speaker 3: of tequila. Just need to relax and get a bottle
Speaker 3: to kill. Don't make it out of the house that
Speaker 3: night because I black out, and he said apparently I
Speaker 3: was blackout screaming on the goat, and then he said
Speaker 3: he was trying to give me. He's trying to give
Speaker 3: me water by the end of the night, and I
Speaker 3: start going, it's hurting me, it's hurting me. So it
Speaker 3: was fun that was your rock bot. That was the pivot. Well,
Speaker 3: I mean, and then when I got there, this is funny.
Speaker 3: He can explain that I don't care he's gonna be
Speaker 3: on your podcast, so you're gonna hear a lot about him.
Speaker 3: He couldn't get it up, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know that well because he and I was like,
Speaker 3: what's going on? He took all these like supplements like
Speaker 3: those like blue chee type stuff, but he took what
Speaker 3: he's never taken before, and he said it just like
Speaker 3: messed up his dick. And I was like, what are
Speaker 3: you gay? I was like, I'll be out here drinking,
Speaker 3: maybe put some porn on, get it up, and call
Speaker 3: me back in the room.
Speaker 5: What are you gay?
Speaker 3: And then I visited did that happen? He put he
Speaker 3: got it up. I don't know what he did in
Speaker 3: that rook, but eventually we had sex. He probably watched
Speaker 3: something about legos about legos okah, like a like a
Speaker 3: month ago. He was like to me's Chloe, Uh, I
Speaker 3: know this was gonna come out sooner or later, but
Speaker 3: I should probably tell you what goes on on my
Speaker 3: explore page because you're gonna probably see it sooner or later.
Speaker 3: I was assuming he's gonna be like bikinis. He's like,
Speaker 3: it's a lot of Pokemon and goes He's like I
Speaker 3: didn't want you to think I was a loser.
Speaker 2: I'll bring up some Pokemon cards from my store. I
Speaker 2: didn't know you liked Pokemon. My nephew loves Pokemon.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So when did you go When did you turn
Speaker 4: around to being sober?
Speaker 3: What was on and off? I was sober? On and off? Okay?
Speaker 2: And did he have like because when you're not sober
Speaker 2: and you should be and you have a partner, I'm
Speaker 2: always interested in like does did your partner like say
Speaker 2: anything or was it like not?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he was just like it's out of control,
Speaker 3: but it's okay. I understand. And then every time I
Speaker 3: visited him, I drink. Yeah, I did like two weeks sober,
Speaker 3: and it was just a fucking nightmare every time. Like
Speaker 3: one time, he has this roommate, Diego. You met him
Speaker 3: and Eric was like filming some woman like special, and
Speaker 3: he'd be there like starting at three pm. Diego is
Speaker 3: there his roommate, and his roommate was all depressed and
Speaker 3: I was just sitting there thinking something, Eric's out for
Speaker 3: the night. I should start drinking. And I say to Diego,
Speaker 3: I was like, let's go get some let's go play
Speaker 3: some pool because I found this one bar when we
Speaker 3: had our first drink at called four Moon, and I
Speaker 3: got obsessed with it. I should be friends with all
Speaker 3: the bartenders. It was crazy. So I convinced Diego. He's like,
Speaker 3: gonna go to jiu jitsu and I was like, you
Speaker 3: know what's gonna make you happy? Socializing and just getting
Speaker 3: out of the house, playing some pool, hanging out alcohol,
Speaker 3: meeting some people. He's like really, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: So we go. We walk there because it's walking in essence,
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, I just sit down
Speaker 3: immediately start Oh. Also thought it was a Trump bar.
Speaker 3: I thought that because I thought they had a Trump
Speaker 3: doll in it. So I told Diego he doesn't make
Speaker 3: America creating unhat, but he has a joke. I was like,
Speaker 3: you should wear it. It's a Trump bar, and so
Speaker 3: he wears it. He's like really. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you should finally get to wear it, not in a costume.
Speaker 3: Never will love it. And he puts it on and
Speaker 3: we're sitting at the bar and I'm like, don't you
Speaker 3: like his hat is a Trump bar? And they're like,
Speaker 3: that's a doll of Conan O'Brien and and they're like
Speaker 3: and they go, Trump's a really bad guy and he's
Speaker 3: wearing these make America great. And then I guess, like
Speaker 3: I started getting really drunk. I guess he wasn't even drinking,
Speaker 3: and apparently I started chasing around the pool table, hitting
Speaker 3: him with the acoustics, saying you better run, Like it
Speaker 3: was just oh my god. Then he had to call
Speaker 3: Eric come pick me up.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 12: I was at a bar the other night and I
Speaker 12: witnessed it was like a five diye bar, and there
Speaker 12: was like a man of about fifty five sixty years old,
Speaker 12: and I watched him hit on young women who I
Speaker 12: could see in their eyes they weren't sure of themselves
Speaker 12: and he was targeting them.
Speaker 3: You're like that, like you're like the female equivalent of that.
Speaker 3: You're like, you have a predator on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah for sure.
Speaker 6: But it's like, you know what, it's nice to hear
Speaker 6: about a woman predator. We won't hear about the males
Speaker 6: taking all this. I don't love this, but it's your opinion.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's nice to hear about a female predator.
Speaker 3: It's nice, nice close.
Speaker 2: I've heard all this and and you know, I've heard
Speaker 2: this story from Eric's perspective too, and it really lines
Speaker 2: up my question.
Speaker 3: Doesn't Yeah, okay, No, he literally goes and then she
Speaker 3: was stubbing mushrooms in my mouth. And people always think
Speaker 3: I'm exact. No, no, you were not. No, Chloe, I've
Speaker 3: seen you drunk.
Speaker 2: If anything, you're you're you're painting a nicer picture.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 2: So my thing is like, okay, so when you're drinking
Speaker 2: and under the circumstances under which you met, like how
Speaker 2: did you guys start actually forming the bond of what
Speaker 2: is now a real romantic relationship. That's the part that
Speaker 2: has always I have not gotten to the bottom of
Speaker 2: talking to either you or Eric, because like, if you're
Speaker 2: drunk this frequently, you can't build a bond, Yeah, because
Speaker 2: you're not getting to know the person.
Speaker 3: Over I was only drunk, Like I would be sober
Speaker 3: for fourteen days and then I would like go see
Speaker 3: him and be sober for the first two days and
Speaker 3: then drunk.
Speaker 2: So he got enough pieces of the personality and like
Speaker 2: what did he but and he expressed as you said.
Speaker 3: Like concern.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean did you think did you tell
Speaker 2: him like your history with drinking or like.
Speaker 3: What Eventually it was like didn't you watch my stand up?
Speaker 3: This is on you, and yeah, I can be very manipulative.
Speaker 3: I'm an addict, so I can manipulate anything to get
Speaker 3: what I want. When it comes to addiction, like if
Speaker 3: I need to get a drink, I'll figure it out,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And I don't care.
Speaker 2: I will add actually write there for the forty eight
Speaker 2: Laws of Power like your own version.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like anyone who gets in my way where Yeah,
Speaker 3: I will take down anything in my way. Yeah, get
Speaker 3: what I want? Y Yeah, I have no idea. I
Speaker 3: have no such skills. It's only when it comes to
Speaker 3: like alcohol or drugs, you have skills and other you
Speaker 3: have skills with goals, like you get like zeroed in
Speaker 3: on a goal.
Speaker 2: But I don't know how to But I don't know,
Speaker 2: like if I need something in the moment, how to
Speaker 2: manipulate everyone around me right to get the outcome that
Speaker 2: I want?
Speaker 3: Right it comes like it would be helpful. I could
Speaker 3: make up lives right now. I could. No, I know
Speaker 3: how I could tell you because I could tell you.
Speaker 3: My neurologist, my epilepsy told me that like today I
Speaker 3: should start doing mushrooms because I just switched certain meds
Speaker 3: and my eyes are down, and if I want to
Speaker 3: be able to get my brain regulated, like I could
Speaker 3: just lie and then we're all in mushrooms and I
Speaker 3: know by the time or that everyone's everyone's whatever, what
Speaker 3: is it called.
Speaker 9: That?
Speaker 3: But also your inhibitions are lower, you know, so I
Speaker 3: would I know in my head by like hour two,
Speaker 3: I could tell you guys I could drink, and you
Speaker 3: guys wouldn't be able to say, oh no, don't do that.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: That's how I can start drinking again, okay, and then
Speaker 3: I'll leave you guys call my friends who don't care
Speaker 3: if I drink a coke, like it can be a
Speaker 3: whole and then I can then I'll see them, but
Speaker 3: you're not drinking. I'll make up lies to them right right.
Speaker 3: It can be a whole stressful. It's very exhausting, and
Speaker 3: I do wish I had the skill set because it's
Speaker 3: like I'm not a bad person, but when it comes
Speaker 3: to drugs and alcohol, like I will be right right right,
Speaker 3: which is like how addicts are. That's why it's so
Speaker 3: hard for them to rebuild trust in relationships, and that's
Speaker 3: why there's the whole amends thing and it's coming back
Speaker 3: to comedy. I talked to you about this and like,
Speaker 3: I have to rebuild my trust with everywhere I go,
Speaker 3: Like and with yourself too, right. Oh yeah? And like Harrington,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh can I do? When he was
Speaker 3: booking at like club, she was a booker in New
Speaker 3: York to everybody, and they didn't know like Carrington from
Speaker 3: without a Country. Okay, yeah, so so he was he
Speaker 3: was running a room that Seventh Street comedy shut down
Speaker 3: and uh.
Speaker 2: This is a real who's who of small comedy in
Speaker 2: New York City.
Speaker 3: Well, Korean, I can't really take down the Wilberg or
Speaker 3: Msge not yet. Soon become the demise after Nick's clubs.
Speaker 3: Where's that of comedy? I'll suck your dick.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I was like, hey, why aren't you booking me?
Speaker 3: Like I was like, and I was just being a bitch.
Speaker 3: I was like, why are you booking these girls who suck?
Speaker 3: And this boy's fucking I'm not even say uh, she's
Speaker 3: not a nice word. And yeah he was just like.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm like a month two months sober,
Speaker 3: and he's like, I don't believe you.
Speaker 2: He's like and Harrington I think it's important for the story.
Speaker 2: Is himself a recovering Yeah, yeah, said yeah.
Speaker 3: And he was like, Chloe, like, you say this to everyone,
Speaker 3: Like I've booked you a bunch, You've showed up drunk.
Speaker 3: He was like, we never know what, Chloe, we're gonna
Speaker 3: get when Booker's book you. No one knows. Are they
Speaker 3: gonna get normal Chloe who's being funny, or are they
Speaker 3: gonna get drunk Chloe who's a psycho. Nobody knows who's
Speaker 3: gonna show up. And it makes us, It makes us
Speaker 3: look bad. He goes text me, when you have a year,
Speaker 3: oh wow, wow har lay down the log and then
Speaker 3: you know, he gave me a spot like two weeks
Speaker 3: later and I got fucking ripped. I couldn't control it. Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: what do you mean you couldn't control it?
Speaker 2: Can we talk about that like when pep when people
Speaker 2: say they can't control it, and like and I know
Speaker 2: and I know, like you guys both have kind of
Speaker 2: like if like when you know. It's been the part
Speaker 2: of the conversation recently that like, addiction is a disease,
Speaker 2: and I've heard both of you on separate occasions, go,
Speaker 2: but is it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, but I will say, like.
Speaker 6: Your dopamine, like when your dopamine levels are so fucked
Speaker 6: from a substance or like getting the getting a substance
Speaker 6: and then not getting a substance, it's like you're it's
Speaker 6: it's it's really difficult for a human being to override
Speaker 6: their need for a dopamine hit.
Speaker 3: And so I think that's why people have sponsors, because when.
Speaker 6: You feel like you want to use or a drink
Speaker 6: or whatever it is, you call the sponsor so they
Speaker 6: can help you talk you down from this.
Speaker 3: Dopamine seeking thing.
Speaker 2: Nothing else exists except getting the thing.
Speaker 3: But also like there's such a window, a small time
Speaker 3: window in between sage I want to drink. There's such
Speaker 3: a small window that if I don't reach out to
Speaker 3: someone in that window, I will drink start drinking. Because
Speaker 3: you know, there's such a small window that I can
Speaker 3: be like, Okay, I know I want to drink it.
Speaker 3: I know this is bad. So if I I'll call
Speaker 3: someone to write it immediately, then I could. But then
Speaker 3: if I wait like twenty minutes, I'll be like, fuck
Speaker 3: that person, I'm drinking totally to well and so and
Speaker 3: with addiction too, it's interesting. So the part of your brain.
Speaker 3: It's not the hypothelmis.
Speaker 6: It's a I think it might be a prefelteral cortex,
Speaker 6: but don't don't quote me on this.
Speaker 3: You're from Toro Lobe, sure, So that's where my ablepsy
Speaker 3: is and it affects my sys.
Speaker 6: So that the part of the of an addict's brain
Speaker 6: that's like really gets affected is the long term decision
Speaker 6: making part of your brain, where you go, what are
Speaker 6: the consequences of my actions? When you are jonesing for
Speaker 6: a thing, the long term thinking is over. It's miles
Speaker 6: away from from your your ability to reason with yourself.
Speaker 6: So so all all that exists when you're trying to
Speaker 6: get the drug is just how do I get it?
Speaker 6: And no one fucking talked to me until I get
Speaker 6: it kind of kind of thing, Like it's that tunnel
Speaker 6: vision because your long term thinking is compromised.
Speaker 3: I think it's the same thing like it can be
Speaker 3: when someone's horning you know what I meant. You could
Speaker 3: even in bad moments too, when people are like, we
Speaker 3: should probably wear a condom, but like, I just want
Speaker 3: to have sex right now, so you don't think about
Speaker 3: the long term because it's like it's a different feeling
Speaker 3: is getting in the way, and it's the feeling like
Speaker 3: that you know you're gonna get the hit you get
Speaker 3: when you like I have an orgasm or something, the
Speaker 3: same like hit you can get when you're an addict.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you feel like there's no enjoyment for long
Speaker 6: when you're in the throes of addiction. For me, I
Speaker 6: can always speak for myself, but it's like, long term
Speaker 6: enjoyment isn't a thing that you even think about or
Speaker 6: like if you if it does cross your brain, you're like,
Speaker 6: that's not for me, which is like, what a horrible
Speaker 6: way to live because you got to like create a
Speaker 6: life for yourself.
Speaker 3: That's why I can get depressing. It's sad. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: why being sober is the way to go. It is
Speaker 3: nice though, because you're like you it feels like you're
Speaker 3: raw dogging life. Do you feel that way? Like, no,
Speaker 3: because I'm on a lot of pills, okay, hell yeah yeah?
Speaker 2: But your pills are for your epilepsy, right and anti
Speaker 2: depressant oh well yeah, anxiety. I sometimes people's brains they
Speaker 2: need that and that goes well with their chemistry.
Speaker 3: You know. Well, I don't take like colonipin or x annax,
Speaker 3: because I would take that whole bottle in two days.
Speaker 3: It's happened. And uh so it's like I take like
Speaker 3: this medication called gabapentin that they prescribe like every one
Speaker 3: in rehab, and it's basically you take it kind of
Speaker 3: when you get out of rehab and some people stay
Speaker 3: taking it, but it's a non habit forming anxiety medicine.
Speaker 3: Originally it was for epilep like all these meds people
Speaker 3: take a lot of them were originally for seizures, so
Speaker 3: now they become other things. Like I take la Michtel,
Speaker 3: which is for my epilepsy, but now they use that
Speaker 3: as a mood stabilized. Yeah, my mom was my mom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, terrible time on mcdal Why did she get she
Speaker 2: got like psychotic?
Speaker 3: Really yeah? Yeah and her.
Speaker 6: You don't pass out with your seizures, right do you do?
Speaker 6: You stay conscious?
Speaker 12: No?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're like awake. Do you smell like you
Speaker 3: smell copper or anything? I don't get any ouras, which
Speaker 3: is annoying.
Speaker 6: Ah fuck, So you don't know, well because like sometimes
Speaker 6: you could for you as the seizure have her, you
Speaker 6: can know, Okay, it's called aura.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got People get auras and they can feel
Speaker 3: it coming and they can sit down or tell somebody.
Speaker 3: Do you zone out when you're having a seizure or
Speaker 3: do you don't even know? I just have amnesia because
Speaker 3: I fall to the floor and then I ship okay.
Speaker 3: I usually fall to one side because my epilepsies on
Speaker 3: one the left side of my brain, So I fall
Speaker 3: to my left side usually, and then I convulse for
Speaker 3: like oh thirty seconds to a minute dawn, and then
Speaker 3: I usually bite my tongue and I uh, I always
Speaker 3: have like throw up or foam at. I was gonna
Speaker 3: phone yeah, yeah, yeah, and then I'm on calling and
Speaker 3: then by the time I wake up, ambulance is already there. Wow.
Speaker 3: I don't know how long it takes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you had pretty you had you had one
Speaker 2: in a pool that was pretty serious.
Speaker 3: That was not a good one. Yeah, did you get seizures?
Speaker 3: I haven't had one in a bit. Maybe I haven't
Speaker 3: had one in like a year or so. I thought
Speaker 3: I had like this. Really, I thought it was like
Speaker 3: a new type of seizure I had because I was
Speaker 3: like conscious and I just like was like but then
Speaker 3: the doctor was like, oh, you had heat stroke because
Speaker 3: I went to the Hampton Classic and I sat in
Speaker 3: the sun for eight hours straight, which you're not supposed
Speaker 3: to do, especially if you're epileptic, right my mom my
Speaker 3: mom would And I was just like it made me
Speaker 3: like it made me like delirious and like it was
Speaker 3: just kind of like I know, I like made me
Speaker 3: just like not know what I was what was going on. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's scared. I think that was a real thing. I
Speaker 3: just thought it was something that happened in that movie
Speaker 3: Filo Goes West Classic, Remember when he's talking to the Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: heat stroke is very real.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I remember the scene and in the Army Now Classic,
Speaker 6: in the Army Now Polyshoriansy Dick where there there was
Speaker 6: a hallucination.
Speaker 3: Are you guys friends and Andy? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The problem with heat stroke is it's also the excuse
Speaker 2: that like musicians use when they are like too drunk
Speaker 2: to perform.
Speaker 3: So it feels made off.
Speaker 2: Like Lenny Kravitz is one hundred percent like was like
Speaker 2: strung out one day and a concert in New Jersey.
Speaker 3: He was like, heat stroke, letty can't go on.
Speaker 2: You know, It's like heat stroke or exhaustion, are like
Speaker 2: the ones when they're like that person's back in rehab
Speaker 2: and when I see them for a couple of months,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: I should have taken advantage of my epilepsy more. How
Speaker 3: some used it as an excuse more for what they as.
Speaker 3: I don't lay down Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's a you know, because it's not.
Speaker 2: It's also I don't know, you're the only person I
Speaker 2: know who has epilepsy, so it feels rare unique. I
Speaker 2: really don't have a lot of information on it, so
Speaker 2: I can't say that's not true.
Speaker 12: It's not genetic, Okay, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it is. There's like studies that
Speaker 3: they don't really know. Okay, but yeah, it's just that's
Speaker 3: the thing with it that's different than alcoholism, Like it's
Speaker 3: much I always forget I have epilepsy, whereas I never
Speaker 3: forget I have drinking problem, right because you don't like
Speaker 3: walk through window like you know, you're not passing a
Speaker 3: storefront of someone having a seizure, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Alcohol around you walk people?
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know what, I I know, Karen, you
Speaker 6: haven't like you don't drink as much lately.
Speaker 2: I don't check it all anymore. Yeah, and Queen and
Speaker 2: Chloy are almost twins. Yeah, but my my my boyfriend.
Speaker 6: Is uh he was a very functioning alcoholic and he
Speaker 6: stopped drinking.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 6: So because of that, I stopped drinking because I was like, well,
Speaker 6: I don't want to, like I would do a lot
Speaker 6: of times just drink with him, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 6: it's nice to it's kind of nice. And then I
Speaker 6: had a drink the other night. I'm like one drink.
Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa, my.
Speaker 2: People, I would do this all the time, just like
Speaker 2: knock them back, and uh, it's not good.
Speaker 3: For you, is your Uh? Do you find their relationship
Speaker 3: is different? Like he's like you guys are different people.
Speaker 6: Sober, Yeah, much more present and then the next morning
Speaker 6: we can enjoy each other instead of being hungover.
Speaker 3: Because I've a lot of relationships end up not working.
Speaker 3: This is not about you when one of the partners
Speaker 3: gets sober, because totally it's like I dated this guy
Speaker 3: when I first went to rehab, and then we were
Speaker 3: still dating when I got out, But after I got out,
Speaker 3: I was sober and he's still drank, and we like
Speaker 3: didn't really have anything to talk about because it was
Speaker 3: like we had such chemistry and whatever because we both
Speaker 3: like to party together. And you know, you can talk
Speaker 3: to anyone for hours when you're drinking and think you're
Speaker 3: having like a riveting conversation. Yeah, totally can. How many
Speaker 3: times have you been drunk and gone into the bathroom
Speaker 3: and talk to the woman who, yeah, you handtown, you
Speaker 3: bond everybody, Yeah, you like bond and you're like, wow,
Speaker 3: everyone's so friendly.
Speaker 2: Well that's the problem, Like everyone is so I mean
Speaker 2: that's when I was drinking. I usually like we talked
Speaker 2: about this a little bit. But like a lot of
Speaker 2: people drink because they feel uncomfortable and they want to
Speaker 2: see more interesting. I drink because everyone else is so
Speaker 2: fucking boring and it's so greating speaking to them. So
Speaker 2: I would just do it to like be able to
Speaker 2: network in this business, really make it interesting for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I go. I just I just hate the networking
Speaker 3: aspect of it.
Speaker 2: So I was like, this is like I can stay
Speaker 2: out if I'm doing this right, and it can be
Speaker 2: fun and exciting for me. But it's just like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, yeah, because it takes this thing off of
Speaker 2: other people's personalities.
Speaker 3: I just don't really like people, so I had to force.
Speaker 3: So it's like when there's this big piece.
Speaker 2: Of your uh, your job that you know you have.
Speaker 3: To fulfill, you're like, oh my god. But yeah.
Speaker 2: I also I used to love partying too, I really
Speaker 2: fucking but that's not no one parties anymore.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, Okay, I'm not going to party by
Speaker 3: I don't understand. I do love it though, but I
Speaker 3: can still party sober. I know you've been an inspiration
Speaker 3: to me. I feel you catch like because I'm I
Speaker 3: have it so in my head, like sometimes like I
Speaker 3: can't have fun if I'm not drinking well, And I disagree.
Speaker 2: I think you can have more fun well, And I was.
Speaker 2: I was talking to a group of friends about this
Speaker 2: a while ago.
Speaker 6: It's like, Okay, so we're all talking about like we
Speaker 6: need to drink less or consume less substances, and actually,
Speaker 6: but I was like, but part of the part of
Speaker 6: the way that that's going to be successful is that
Speaker 6: if you replace the nights you would be out drinking
Speaker 6: in a bar with your friends with like a night
Speaker 6: that you're sober with your friends, playing pool at somebody's
Speaker 6: apartment building or playing games, like you still need to
Speaker 6: socialize sober to prove to yourself and to show yourself
Speaker 6: usher this usher this new type of fun in because
Speaker 6: it is it is really fun.
Speaker 2: I've been a couple of parties lately, like did not
Speaker 2: drink at all, and I'm like, actually like this a lot, yea,
Speaker 2: but you need to still have that social connection.
Speaker 3: Sober well, yeah, when I did it.
Speaker 2: When I when I started because I just wanted to
Speaker 2: do a sober I had wanted to do it for
Speaker 2: a long time, and I was like, oh, this is
Speaker 2: a year that I can do it.
Speaker 3: When I did sober Summer.
Speaker 2: I was like, my rules for myself was that I
Speaker 2: would still do everything I would do if I was drinking,
Speaker 2: Like I could not know a thing, so like we're
Speaker 2: going so you know Lev wants to go to the
Speaker 2: strip club, We're still going to the strip club, that
Speaker 2: kind of thing. And I did all these things because
Speaker 2: the reason I did it was not so much of
Speaker 2: it was a big part of it was I was
Speaker 2: starting to get sad because being a comedian, we're like
Speaker 2: supposedly the funniest people in the world, and I just
Speaker 2: saw all my friends drinking so much to have fun,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I don't think it has to
Speaker 2: be this way. I think I think we're underselling ourselves.
Speaker 2: I'm like, these are I'm hanging out with people who,
Speaker 2: you know, hundreds of people, thousands of people are paying
Speaker 2: high ticket prices to see these people every weekend, and
Speaker 2: we and then when we hang out with each other,
Speaker 2: we have to drink. I just don't think it has
Speaker 2: to be that way. And I was right, of course,
Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be that way.
Speaker 3: I don't understand how, like some of these comics still
Speaker 3: can drink so much function Somar, Tanks Man and function.
Speaker 3: Some of them do functioning alcohol, but it's well and
Speaker 3: I would be funny when itause alcohol is a depressed
Speaker 3: and it's like, but it gives them.
Speaker 6: It's an upper for that. I think for a lot
Speaker 6: of people, alcohol is and upper. I'm pretty.
Speaker 3: At some point the timing gets messed up when you're drinking,
Speaker 3: tim is you can't it's hard to deal with people
Speaker 3: in the crowd.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, you can't be as present.
Speaker 2: You can't gauge what's actually happening in the in the group,
Speaker 2: in the amieba that is the audience.
Speaker 3: I guess when you're doing theaters, you can do whatever
Speaker 3: you want, because the timing is all so off.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine being drunk in the theater that I'm scary.
Speaker 3: You have to listen way harder for that left to
Speaker 3: get to the back of the Yeah, that could be
Speaker 3: a real nightmare. I mean, you hear, but you hear.
Speaker 2: You hear stories of people who make it and then
Speaker 2: fuck it up pretty quickly. I don't want to name names,
Speaker 2: but like suck it up pretty quickly by constantly showing
Speaker 2: up drunk or on drugs, and they they've made it
Speaker 2: and they and it only takes a you know, showing
Speaker 2: up to one or two fear drunks theater get drunk
Speaker 2: and having it circulate to like really impact your career.
Speaker 3: The stakes are so much higher, much more successful, and
Speaker 3: people are not going to put up with that.
Speaker 2: People if they fucking pay for a ticket to a
Speaker 2: show and the comic is drunk or the musician is drunk,
Speaker 2: they're not coming back.
Speaker 3: Like it's just not happening. Unless it's Chryser's cruise.
Speaker 2: Totally please book me Bert, But that's a that's a
Speaker 2: that's a whole like that's like a different kind of thing,
Speaker 2: and cruises are never I want a goose.
Speaker 3: I've never been on a cruise. I don't. I've never
Speaker 3: been one.
Speaker 6: I want to do one for work though, so that
Speaker 6: it's not like I don't feel like I would feel
Speaker 6: less trapped if it was for work like you guys do,
Speaker 6: like a theater crew.
Speaker 3: You do guys, we cruise, absolutely, I would be never
Speaker 3: with those.
Speaker 6: I would love to build on a cruise like Corn
Speaker 6: did a crew like Jay Okersen did cruises with. I
Speaker 6: don't know, some band like that I do, Like, yeah,
Speaker 6: like a metal cruise or practical Jokers.
Speaker 3: Cruise, Yeah, I would do it. Cruise would be real
Speaker 3: bad for my drink. You get that all you can
Speaker 3: drink once I get that all you can drink bracelet bets.
Speaker 3: I feel so trapped on a cruise. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 3: didn't go to Vague. I didn't go to skang Fest
Speaker 3: last year, and at first I was like upset I
Speaker 3: wasn't going. I was like, yeah, thank fucking God. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a lot of I wasn't there because the year
Speaker 3: before when I did it, I did every drug there is,
Speaker 3: and they're readily available and they get handed to you
Speaker 3: all the time. I thought I was sober because I
Speaker 3: didn't drink. But I did ketamine, acid, mushrooms coke.
Speaker 13: Yeah, but you did it on our podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 13: I blame the other guy. Yeah, that's right, that podcast.
Speaker 13: I remember being after that being like, I'm gonna get
Speaker 13: so many followers, and Karen and I were talking after.
Speaker 13: She's like, I think, well, I think.
Speaker 3: I lost them, and I was like, get me too.
Speaker 3: We thought we were killing I thought you were very,
Speaker 3: very funny. It was really funny days you were on
Speaker 3: a lot of drugs. That was Jocomo times chocolate. Can
Speaker 3: I grab a Red Bull? We're wrapped up?
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask, yeah, if there was any I
Speaker 2: didn't know how much longer?
Speaker 3: Who knows, we have so much to say. Maybe we
Speaker 3: could get a drink after And.
Speaker 6: I want to see if there's anything you wanted to talk, like,
Speaker 6: any ending topic you wanted to talk about.
Speaker 3: What are you at seven or eight months right now?
Speaker 3: Eight months on February tenth?
Speaker 2: Okay, so, and what do you so? What are your
Speaker 2: thoughts so far? And how how long has it been
Speaker 2: since you've been sober for this long?
Speaker 3: It's twenty sixteen, Okay, i'ven't had more than three months
Speaker 3: sober in six years okay, Hell yeah, yes? And what
Speaker 3: are your what? How are you feeling? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: What's your what's your Yelp review of sobriety as of now, actually.
Speaker 3: Six months once until Hopper Pen came and ruined it.
Speaker 3: I love how your name shout out. You are a
Speaker 3: bad boy. He's a bad boy, he's a bad boys club.
Speaker 3: Good guy anyways, a good guy, bad boy, that boy,
Speaker 3: good guy, gentle man. How would I like to leave gracefully?
Speaker 3: I just don't hate myself anymore. Hell yeah, that was
Speaker 3: a good way. You're not going against yourself.
Speaker 5: No, I don't hate.
Speaker 3: I'm still really insecure because I don't know what I deserve,
Speaker 3: what I don't deserve, because I have like guilt, not
Speaker 3: like I did anything fucked up. I just have guilt
Speaker 3: like I wasted so much time drinking and I'm a
Speaker 3: loser and people think I'm a loser and I'm not
Speaker 3: far enough along or I'm not funny or uh, you know,
Speaker 3: people talk shit about me because they think I come
Speaker 3: from like some super rich family and I don't deserve stuff.
Speaker 3: It's just like a lot of things are build up
Speaker 3: in my head right now. But so I'm really I'm
Speaker 3: starting to figure out my voice on stage, and it's
Speaker 3: weird because I have to figure out my like voice
Speaker 3: in real life. And once I like get those two connected,
Speaker 3: I think I'll be Guy's a limit. Sky is the limit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: space babe, I'm going to fucking Mars space jam. But yeah,
Speaker 3: beautiful Chloe like so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I know I never want to like
Speaker 2: make you know it, like you know sobriety or whatever.
Speaker 3: You're like your whole personality.
Speaker 2: And I know that we've talked about that off mic
Speaker 2: and stuff, but I just thought because of like I
Speaker 2: think it's like an extraordinary achievement that you have under
Speaker 2: your belt right now, and I thought it would be
Speaker 2: perhaps help and or interesting.
Speaker 3: No, it's any of our listeners. It's great. And it's
Speaker 3: like every day I'm sober, it's like I'm making up
Speaker 3: for the time I lost because I don't want to
Speaker 3: spend another day hungover in bed. I just can't do it.
Speaker 6: What's happening is you're repairing your reputation with yourself, and
Speaker 6: that is like for your self esteem.
Speaker 3: There's nothing more potent than that. And I've talked to
Speaker 3: Karn about this before, Like there are some people who
Speaker 3: just don't want to be my friend anymore, of course,
Speaker 3: and there's nothing I can do. I was thinking about
Speaker 3: it today and it's like when you break up with
Speaker 3: a guy or they break up with you, and all
Speaker 3: I want to do is think I can convince them
Speaker 3: to love me again. And you can't change the way
Speaker 3: anyone feels about you, Like, it's just impossible for me
Speaker 3: to manipulate someone's feelings. Yeah, I can't. I can't make someone.
Speaker 3: It's like I can't make crush me when you have
Speaker 3: a crush on the boy and they don't like you back.
Speaker 3: I can't make someone like me no matter how hard
Speaker 3: I try. Yeah, I've tried pretty hard. And it's like
Speaker 3: as I got older, it's like relationships are all it's
Speaker 3: all the same in the same kind of room. I mean,
Speaker 3: like I'm not trying to funk everybody, but right right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: but I would for a call Boston Spot and get
Speaker 3: me out of Knicks. Oh my god, that's how I
Speaker 3: got Nick Nick Hell? Yeah, is there?
Speaker 2: We gotta find him, guys. Amazing, amazing episode. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much Chloe for being here. We appreciate you. We
Speaker 2: love having you.
Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 2: A fan favorite you can see Chloe and I on
Speaker 2: the road on a bunch of places this coming year.
Speaker 3: I'm excited for that.
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Speaker 5: Without you again.
Speaker 10: Get you out of sight.
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Speaker 14: And it's not the first time. You mean, I have
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