Speaker 1: Hi. I'm Vanessa Bayer and this is my brother Jonah.
Speaker 2: We're two siblings who love to talk about our childhood
Speaker 2: in nostalgia and how it shaped us into the people
Speaker 2: we are today.
Speaker 3: Who know we're going to have a great time with
Speaker 3: today's guest, and that's not a gamble.
Speaker 2: Welcome to how did we get weird?
Speaker 1: Jonah?
Speaker 3: So you were saying earlier today that you're experiencing the
Speaker 3: first snow of the year where you live.
Speaker 2: Yep, we got some snow up here in the Northeast.
Speaker 2: We haven't gotten it. Usually we get it way earlier.
Speaker 2: I was driving home from work the other day and
Speaker 2: it was slow goings. It was, yeah, driving in the
Speaker 2: snow not fun.
Speaker 1: Not fun.
Speaker 3: Now I have a question because I live in LA
Speaker 3: where it doesn't really snow, So I'm curious. You know,
Speaker 3: when we were kids, the first snow of the year
Speaker 3: was quite exciting, and I feel like maybe as an adult,
Speaker 3: just how would you say those two things differ.
Speaker 2: It's not as exciting as an adult. Like most things,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about driving, I'm thinking about my heating bill,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about you know, Yeah, it's not it's not
Speaker 2: as exciting. I mean, it's it's nice because it hopefully
Speaker 2: it means a planet isn't completely melting right right, right, right,
Speaker 2: So it's good that it's still happening, but it is. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it definitely doesn't have the same novelty of wanting to
Speaker 2: go sledding, wanting to do fun stuff in the snow.
Speaker 2: It's more of like, Okay, I got to shovel this stuff.
Speaker 2: Where's the shovel. My back's going to be sore. It's
Speaker 2: it's a lot more adult stuff, so you're not really
Speaker 2: missing out that much.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like the thing that I would
Speaker 3: get the most excited to do when it would start
Speaker 3: to snow was make a snow angel.
Speaker 1: And now the idea.
Speaker 3: Of like doing that, I'm like, no way, Jose, I
Speaker 3: don't want to lie down in the snow.
Speaker 1: That sucks.
Speaker 2: Right. Then you got to do the laundry. Then your
Speaker 2: clothes are all way.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And also I feel like when we were kids, because
Speaker 3: we were from Cleveland and it was so cold there,
Speaker 3: we had like snow pants and stuff and snow and
Speaker 3: that stuff. You gotta lie down in that stuff. It
Speaker 3: gets all wet and you're like check, please, no, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well I'm curious to see how are today's guests.
Speaker 2: I am too feels about this whole snow based on
Speaker 2: you know, where he lives. So let's get into it.
Speaker 2: Our guest today's musician, actor, comedian. You might know Elite,
Speaker 2: singer for Dracula's High Tension Wires and one of my
Speaker 2: favorite bands, Riverboat Gamblers. Let's give a warm how do
Speaker 2: we get We're welcome to Mike Weaby Mike, what is up?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 4: What is up? Guys?
Speaker 5: We we uh in Texas? I'm from. I grew up
Speaker 5: in North Texas, Denton, Texas, and I live in Austin,
Speaker 5: Texas now and it snows maybe like once a year,
Speaker 5: so it was all I honestly, it continues to be
Speaker 5: a little bit exciting, except for Texas is politically is
Speaker 5: a little bit of a wack adoodle place sometimes and
Speaker 5: they're there's like a I don't know the ins and outs,
Speaker 5: but they're like not on a power.
Speaker 4: Grid that like is regulated.
Speaker 5: So like two years ago in Austin, it snowed and
Speaker 5: iced really bad and all the power went out in
Speaker 5: the entire almost in the entire city. I lived really
Speaker 5: close to the airport because I've made it and and
Speaker 5: like uh, but but so the power stayed on, you know,
Speaker 5: which was great for me. So I had like people
Speaker 5: kind of trudging their way over just to get warm,
Speaker 5: but there was like no power for in this sub
Speaker 5: you know, freezing temperatures for like four days or something
Speaker 5: like that. So that was my first taste of like, oh,
Speaker 5: snow can be bad and not fun, because to me,
Speaker 5: it's always this rare special treat that like what.
Speaker 4: Is this stuff?
Speaker 2: It's it's so magical, right, right you could have you
Speaker 2: should have gone to Kancum with Ted Cruz am I right,
Speaker 2: I know, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: I remember that was so funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sucks.
Speaker 4: It's the worst the weasel.
Speaker 2: So so it's kind of still a novelty to you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so how is it? I guess, like how is it changed?
Speaker 2: It's growing up? Like was this like a huge deal
Speaker 2: as a kid growing up in Texas?
Speaker 5: The one day it's the best because we get if
Speaker 5: we get a couple of flurries, they closed down the
Speaker 5: entire city. So we So I remember like in the
Speaker 5: winters when I was in like grade school and and.
Speaker 4: And probably all the way up to high school.
Speaker 5: But even like as a young young kid in grade school,
Speaker 5: excitedly watching the weather every night during the winter, praying
Speaker 5: that there was going to be snow so we could
Speaker 5: get out of going to school because I hated going
Speaker 5: to school at a very young age.
Speaker 4: And uh, and it.
Speaker 5: Was always such as just so magical to like open
Speaker 5: up the window and see that there was a full
Speaker 5: bet of snow and know that you were not going
Speaker 5: to have to go to school.
Speaker 4: It was just the best dream.
Speaker 3: The dream so funny because as a kid, you're like
Speaker 3: kind of Jonah, you were touching on this. You don't
Speaker 3: have to shovel the I mean, I guess once in
Speaker 3: a while you do have to shovel the driveway, but
Speaker 3: you don't really have to drive in the snow because
Speaker 3: you can't drive yet. You don't have to really deal
Speaker 3: with stuff with your house getting like messed up by
Speaker 3: the snow. All you do is like, look at how
Speaker 3: pretty it is and get to play in it. It's
Speaker 3: funny because I was just thinking in California, people will
Speaker 3: drive to the mountains to get snow, and it's like,
Speaker 3: I'd like to stay here where there's no snow, right
Speaker 3: meaning in La Okay, Yeah, let's move on. But the
Speaker 3: point is like I'm just saying, snow is such a
Speaker 3: novelty if you're a kid, or if you're in a place.
Speaker 1: I guess that doesn't get it a lot. Jonah, Do
Speaker 1: you remember when.
Speaker 3: We visited our cousins in northern California and it snowed
Speaker 3: there and they absolutely lost their minds?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I do remember that. That was a I mean
Speaker 2: what I remember most is eating a bunch of rainbow
Speaker 2: Srbert and then throwing off like.
Speaker 1: Was that at that time?
Speaker 2: I think it was the same trip. We were in
Speaker 2: some kind of vehicle with a lot of people, and
Speaker 2: I was sitting backwards like towards, you know how, like
Speaker 2: a lot of cars in the eighties would have the
Speaker 2: seats that face out the back, which I don't think
Speaker 2: was like working for me. After eating a bunch of
Speaker 2: rainbow Subert.
Speaker 5: Was a vomit in perfect rainbow colors. Actually so interesting.
Speaker 5: I thought maybe it would be at the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it turns out no, it turns out like uh yeah, no,
Speaker 2: just looks regular.
Speaker 4: It's disappointing, but you know.
Speaker 1: What else, this is gonna not be as fun.
Speaker 3: But the thing I remember, probably from that trip to
Speaker 3: was do you remember, well, I don't know if either
Speaker 3: of you would remember these Freeman's like face masks and
Speaker 3: all this like path and body stuff that had all
Speaker 3: these colors on the packages, and we would experiment with
Speaker 3: all of them in Yukaya when we would visit our cousins,
Speaker 3: but also rainbow colored, but not something you would ingest
Speaker 3: and then throw up.
Speaker 4: So you could. I bet, I bet you would throw up.
Speaker 1: You would throw it up.
Speaker 3: Good partoo, I bet you would throw it up. But wow,
Speaker 3: we had a lot of fun when we go to
Speaker 3: u Kaya.
Speaker 2: So, Mike, so, so you grew up in Texas, you'd
Speaker 2: have the snow days and then like, what was your
Speaker 2: kind of vibe like in high school? Because obviously you're
Speaker 2: like very kind of like a performative person. Were you
Speaker 2: like that in high school or were you more kind
Speaker 2: of quiet or what?
Speaker 5: Were you sort of like I was, Yeah, I would
Speaker 5: think I was pretty performative. I was in theater and
Speaker 5: did theater stuff all the time.
Speaker 3: Were there any productions you want to kind of shout
Speaker 3: out that you did?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I mean people already know them, so
Speaker 5: I feel like it's a little it's.
Speaker 4: A little braggy or whatever.
Speaker 5: H Now, I was in one Flew over the Cuckoo's
Speaker 5: Nest whoa, which was a very like I remember being
Speaker 5: so excited that we were going to do that, but
Speaker 5: then just like watching the theater teacher Jeanette Abney, who
Speaker 5: was a really great teacher, but watching her just go
Speaker 5: through every page with a black marker and just marking
Speaker 5: at all the lines that we couldn't say, you know,
Speaker 5: because it's really like, it's an adult it's an adult thing.
Speaker 5: Like it's right, it's really ridiculous to have a bunch
Speaker 5: of high school kids trying to pull that one off.
Speaker 4: But what was you can't take it with you right right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know one. So you're doing dramas.
Speaker 3: I mean, these are not musical plays where people are
Speaker 3: singing and dancing. You're doing more kind of hardcore dramatic
Speaker 3: acting sort of.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm known for. Yes, sure that in that circuit.
Speaker 5: Ye I was the yeah I was. I was not
Speaker 5: the Mandy Pittink and I was more of just a
Speaker 5: I don't know Robert yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. Vanessa has a lot of issues with
Speaker 2: some of the casting decisions made in our high school
Speaker 2: productions for not getting certain roles middle schools in middle school.
Speaker 2: She's held on to that a lot. Do you have
Speaker 2: any those kind of feelings that have you kind of
Speaker 2: let that go over the last you know, thirty years.
Speaker 5: I feel like I I mostly got what I wanted.
Speaker 5: I feel pretty lucky, but I never got leads and
Speaker 5: I was always kind of wanted to be the more
Speaker 5: charactery kind of you know, people that didn't have to
Speaker 5: hold the you know, carry the whole thing.
Speaker 4: I was like somebody who you know.
Speaker 5: Who's I remember doing a separate piece which was about
Speaker 5: like about like this kid who his buddy breaks his
Speaker 5: leg and dies and it's in the snow, but I
Speaker 5: got to play the schizophrenic. This schizophrenic side character goes
Speaker 5: to the army and goes crazy or whatever, and that
Speaker 5: was like so that, you know, I never I never
Speaker 5: went out for anything that like that wasn't within my wheelhouse,
Speaker 5: which was always like the nerd or the or the
Speaker 5: freaky Audi person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're doing such dramatic plays. I was like, how
Speaker 3: do I know?
Speaker 1: A separate piece? And then I remember that in my
Speaker 1: eighth grade, like Honors English class, we read it and
Speaker 1: it was so dramatic and.
Speaker 4: It's very depressed, so depressive, crazy.
Speaker 3: You guys, see, that's a play like our plays at
Speaker 3: our high school were sort.
Speaker 2: Of I was I remember being the Princess and the p.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jonah, you were and the Princess and the PI
Speaker 3: remember in middle school, and I remember.
Speaker 2: Seeing ours were much more kind of.
Speaker 3: Much more, you know, the the much less serious kind
Speaker 3: of stuff, A.
Speaker 1: Separate a lot of also a lot of things you're naming.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know we're plays.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like they're just these like really dramatic, depressing books.
Speaker 2: Did you guys do The Driver or anything.
Speaker 3: Like we did?
Speaker 4: We did Schindler's List of play.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: It feels Sophie's choice, right, Wow, No, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I wonder if that's just some sort of a part
Speaker 5: of the the wacka do politics of Texas trickling down.
Speaker 4: It was in charge of theater programs.
Speaker 1: Let's get these kids into the grittiest.
Speaker 3: Of yeah plays.
Speaker 1: Now, So you're from Austin.
Speaker 4: I'm from Denton, Texas.
Speaker 5: You're from Denton, a little suburb outside of Dallas that
Speaker 5: has like a couple a couple of little colleges in it,
Speaker 5: and it's kind of it I always described Denton as
Speaker 5: like a micro Austin where it's like you could kind
Speaker 5: of be a art It was pretty friendly to like
Speaker 5: freaky artist kind of people, but also very small. And
Speaker 5: then then we moved to Austin because it was just like, oh,
Speaker 5: it's just this way bigger version of Denton.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously Denton, you know, Vanessa, you may not
Speaker 2: be aware of this, but like has an incredible music scene.
Speaker 2: Mike's a part of with you know, like Markman. You
Speaker 2: know all these incredible bands, which feels like it is like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, twenty guys or something that are in
Speaker 2: like nine thousand bands. A.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well we were all in each other's bands. There
Speaker 5: was there wasn't a lot to do, so we all
Speaker 5: just played in each other's bands.
Speaker 1: And when did did you move to Austin? How old
Speaker 1: were you when you moved there.
Speaker 4: I've been here about twenty years now, so.
Speaker 2: Has it changed at all?
Speaker 1: I have a question about this.
Speaker 3: I have a question like, Okay, when south By Southwest happens,
Speaker 3: do you go, oh boy?
Speaker 1: And was it always like that?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: How has south By Southwest influenced on you?
Speaker 3: Changed in the last twenty years?
Speaker 5: Everybody local not everybody, but a lot of local people
Speaker 5: are like, oh yeah, south By Southwest, But I from
Speaker 5: not living here, I was always excited to come down
Speaker 5: for south By Southwest because we were we started performing
Speaker 5: and stuff like years and years before we moved here
Speaker 5: and then, I mean, I've gotten weary of it at times,
Speaker 5: but for the most part, I've always kind of enjoyed
Speaker 5: it because it means that a whole bunch of friends
Speaker 5: from other bands are coming into town.
Speaker 4: It means they're probably going to get at Sea a
Speaker 4: cool movie.
Speaker 5: Then when I started doing comedy, like I never there's
Speaker 5: not a lot of like local comics that do do comedy,
Speaker 5: but there's a lot of cool, famous, you know, big
Speaker 5: people that you get to go see and satellite show.
Speaker 5: So I've always kind of enjoyed it. It's a little hectic,
Speaker 5: especially when I used to like work in bars, because
Speaker 5: it would mean that I would, you know, between like
Speaker 5: attending things and working. I was just getting no sleep
Speaker 5: for an entire like two weeks. But yeah, but I've
Speaker 5: always kind of I've always kind of liked it. I
Speaker 5: felt like there was too much hemming and hawing about
Speaker 5: right right right right, not being fun.
Speaker 2: Sure. Vanessa remember we went one year.
Speaker 3: I was just going to say we were there at
Speaker 3: the same time. I was promoting train Wreck and doing
Speaker 3: maybe one stand up show, and you were.
Speaker 2: I was playing with Unit Nations.
Speaker 1: You were playing with United Nations.
Speaker 3: And also you were getting you got me so many
Speaker 3: free shoes.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I had a friend who worked for Crier
Speaker 2: or something. No, I think it was Vans.
Speaker 1: Oh it was Vans.
Speaker 2: They had some kind of house and they had free shoes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: house of Vans. Yeah. But but yeah, we played a show,
Speaker 2: a couple of shows and it was for collect and
Speaker 2: Martin Screlly was at our show.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, yeah.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Did you get a chance to brow down or to
Speaker 4: make out with him? Maybe? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I wish for people don't remember who Martin Trelly is.
Speaker 1: Well one of you explain it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's you know, the farmer bro guy, and he
Speaker 2: was you know, it's actually kind of like, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: our singer was involved in a label with him.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, before.
Speaker 5: I forgot he had that label, he did so much
Speaker 5: vileness and I completely forgot that he was involved in
Speaker 5: other than buying that Wu Tang record.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a million dollar Wu Tang record.
Speaker 2: He was like a very big fan of Scream. Oh
Speaker 2: you know, he was a huge Thursday fan. I met
Speaker 2: him twice. One was at that show and once was
Speaker 2: at like like a Lot of Dispute show in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: I mean, he was really into this kind of music.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I remember him being at the show. I
Speaker 2: didn't spend all the time with him.
Speaker 3: He's the guy he somehow made some kind of a
Speaker 3: drug cost a lot of money.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was like a villain, Yes, very much a villain.
Speaker 5: He made like a drug that normally costs like at
Speaker 5: five or ten dollars costs like three hundred or something
Speaker 5: like that, and it was like it was like diabetes
Speaker 5: for elderly ladies or something specific where it.
Speaker 4: Was just really really evil.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you knew before he turned or maybe I don't.
Speaker 2: Really know super well. I mean, like I said, I
Speaker 2: just remember him being at that show because it was
Speaker 2: it was a label. But that was a year we
Speaker 2: were there together. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really fun, Yes, Martin Scarely, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 1: Know it was going to take that.
Speaker 4: I bet you could get him on this podcast.
Speaker 2: I think we probably could. In prison, No, I think he.
Speaker 4: Just got out he got out reaching.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well then Olivia are producer.
Speaker 2: I hope you're yeah, yeah, And I think we actually
Speaker 2: hung out with Zech Blair on that at that house
Speaker 2: of Vanas. Oh yeah, yeah, who's you know, plays with
Speaker 2: Mike and he's also I.
Speaker 3: Think I got shoes and a gift card for shoes,
Speaker 3: which was amazing.
Speaker 1: Do you like how that's what I remember?
Speaker 5: She's a That's one of the best things about festivals
Speaker 5: is when you get free shoes. Oh yeah, And that's always,
Speaker 5: always a treaty and also always a pain when you
Speaker 5: get the free shoes really early and you have to
Speaker 5: carry them around all day because you know, it's you
Speaker 5: had to park like one hundred miles away or whatever,
Speaker 5: so you're just kind of stuck watching, you know, watching
Speaker 5: the band Magua with a bunch of Converse under your
Speaker 5: under your arms.
Speaker 2: I know, I know that's true. That is true. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the first year I went there, many years ago, and
Speaker 2: I have free for a socan ease and then I think, wow,
Speaker 2: they don't really do don't really, they don't really do
Speaker 2: that stuff anymore. But yeah, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's still as much of a thing that
Speaker 2: kind of mark you know, you know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I'm not really as much in it in the
Speaker 2: bus these days. I don't know, what do you think,
Speaker 2: Mike sat Free stuff.
Speaker 5: It's it's I think there's it's changed a lot post pandemic.
Speaker 5: So it's really like them having to you know that
Speaker 5: it brings south By Southwest, brings in like millions and
Speaker 5: millions of dollars to the city, like like multiple millions,
Speaker 5: millions and millions, multiple millions, and so it was a
Speaker 5: real hit when the pandemic took it out for two years.
Speaker 5: So they're kind of I think they're kind of like rebuilding.
Speaker 5: So I got think the industry is kind of trying
Speaker 5: to figure out what it is. It's becoming more and
Speaker 5: more of a tech tech thing than a music thing anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm thinking about moving into the tech space myself.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Jonah, what kind of projects are you thinking
Speaker 3: of doing?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Some AI, I think, think an AI right right, and
Speaker 2: you'll get very hot. Yeah, I don't know exactly what.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, you know I heard Martin Screlly's looking to
Speaker 5: get into tech too, so maybe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he'd loved to replace a ton of people's jobs
Speaker 3: with AI.
Speaker 1: It feels like a villain move.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well we're going to take a quick
Speaker 2: break and we'll be right back with Mike Weaving and
Speaker 2: we're back. So, Mike, you gave us some great topics
Speaker 2: and one of them that we landed on was Saturday
Speaker 2: Morning Cartoons, bring us back to Denton, Texas in the eighties.
Speaker 2: Saturday Morning, what's your go to cartoon? What's your go
Speaker 2: to cereal? What are we talking about?
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I was even specifically thinking about the
Speaker 5: excitement of in September when the new seasons of shows
Speaker 5: would come out, and it felt like they canceled ninety
Speaker 5: percent of the cartoons every season and had ninety percent,
Speaker 5: so you'd there'd be ads in the comic books in
Speaker 5: comic books and then you get like TV Guide or whatever,
Speaker 5: and it would just have like these ads of like
Speaker 5: rundowns for all the new cartoons that were gonna come out,
Speaker 5: and they were all so foreign and exciting, and you
Speaker 5: couldn't believe they were making a cartoon about Rubik's Cube
Speaker 5: or pac Man or you know whatever, Like just all
Speaker 5: these new cartoons, and I just remember that was like
Speaker 5: one of my favorite favorite times of the year was
Speaker 5: just sit there and kind of like make a plan
Speaker 5: because there's three networks, There's ABC, NBC, and CBS, and
Speaker 5: so you're gonna there's gonna be cartoons that are running
Speaker 5: at a certain time, so you had to really kind
Speaker 5: of plan out what you were going to watch and
Speaker 5: maybe you can switch to some during the commercial break.
Speaker 5: But the idea that you're gonna have to miss some
Speaker 5: this week and then the next week was going to
Speaker 5: be when you give you know, the my orbots a
Speaker 5: chance instead of watching you know, dungeons and Dragons or whatever,
Speaker 5: and you're gonna have to switch and flip them around.
Speaker 5: And I remember like sitting with the TV guide and
Speaker 5: planning out like the next three weeks of cartoons that
Speaker 5: I was going to give my attention to, and it
Speaker 5: was just such a so exciting, especially because I didn't
Speaker 5: understand what seasons were or anything like that. It was
Speaker 5: it was just this thing of like TV was just
Speaker 5: TV and stuff comes on and then sometimes it doesn't
Speaker 5: come on, and you just there. You were at the
Speaker 5: whim of the magic box the whole time. There was
Speaker 5: no like insider information about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. Did you have any kind of favorite
Speaker 2: kind of standouts that you remember.
Speaker 5: There was a Dungeons and Dragons cartoon that I really
Speaker 5: liked a whole lot because it was kind of more
Speaker 5: of an action adventure cartoon because there was some choices
Speaker 5: you had to make, like they had. I always loved Bugs,
Speaker 5: Bunny and Looney Tunes, but they show those on Saturday mornings.
Speaker 5: But that was something you could get every that you
Speaker 5: could get that on the weekdays.
Speaker 4: You could get coming home from school or before you
Speaker 4: have to go to school.
Speaker 1: So why prioritize it on Saturday morning?
Speaker 4: He got, Yeah, So yeah, I really enjoyed.
Speaker 5: There was a cartoon called Galaxy High that I really
Speaker 5: liked that was just about a bunch of because I
Speaker 5: was probably in grade school or junior high, but it
Speaker 5: was about like teenagers in a high school, but it.
Speaker 4: Was a space high school.
Speaker 5: Whoa. And that was one of my favorite ones. And
Speaker 5: that ran I think for I kind of was like
Speaker 5: looking up because memory is faulty. It was looking up
Speaker 5: and like, oh that ran for several seasons. That would
Speaker 5: like ran for like two seasons, or at least they
Speaker 5: just maybe just kept showing the first season for a
Speaker 5: second season.
Speaker 4: Those two were big Saturday morning ones.
Speaker 5: There was a thunder, the Barbarian was a big one
Speaker 5: pole position about some guys who drove these fancy cars
Speaker 5: that could kind of fly around.
Speaker 4: Those are the big ones.
Speaker 5: I was honestly really just the whole The idea that
Speaker 5: there were three channels showing just cartoons for like four
Speaker 5: hours if you got up at six am was just
Speaker 5: such like it was just like gorging on candy.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's so exciting, fun the best.
Speaker 3: Now it sounds like you really planned things out, like
Speaker 3: you were really scheduling things, whereas I don't know where
Speaker 3: you fall on this, Jonah, I feel like personally, the
Speaker 3: thing about TV when I was a kid was I
Speaker 3: just it was I felt like I had no control
Speaker 3: over it.
Speaker 1: I didn't really know how to schedule it.
Speaker 3: I just felt like if I turned on the TV
Speaker 3: and Jem was on, it was like the best day
Speaker 3: of my life. Like I didn't really know how to
Speaker 3: like regularly watch stuff. And when I was reading some
Speaker 3: of this research on Saturday morning cartoons, so many shows
Speaker 3: that I loved, I didn't really even remember that they
Speaker 3: were on Saturday mornings.
Speaker 1: But Jonah, do you feel like you scheduled them?
Speaker 2: Like do you know, I feel like I was not
Speaker 2: you know, I feel like I woke up and then
Speaker 2: kind of turned it on and just flipped around whatever.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Muppa Babies of Tea, Ninja Turtles are on. It's God,
Speaker 2: That's that's where I'm staying, right.
Speaker 1: And then it seems like a lot of those shows
Speaker 1: that did have success, for example, Teenage Mutan Ninja Turtles
Speaker 1: moved on to like a weekday type of a thing. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it's called syndication. When you get a certain
Speaker 2: amount of episodes, it gets syndicated. But as you probably
Speaker 2: know this having been on set.
Speaker 3: Right, right, Yeah, they just didn't even realize those shows
Speaker 3: were on Saturday mornings ever, right, But some of them,
Speaker 3: but they were.
Speaker 5: And then some of them just kind of got stuck
Speaker 5: there on Saturday mornings, which is kind of and they
Speaker 5: you know, they do. They would do a weird thing
Speaker 5: because when I was looking at this trying to refresh
Speaker 5: my memory, I was just like looking up like Saturday
Speaker 5: Morning Programming nineteen eighty six to eighty seven or whatever,
Speaker 5: and like they would move the time slots around like
Speaker 5: mid season.
Speaker 4: All the time. Wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it seems crazy. But also they're little kids
Speaker 5: who they're not going to.
Speaker 3: Remember, right, We're not going to be like I don't
Speaker 3: like this program's on on this this time.
Speaker 2: I'm busy at this time. Yeah, it's like what are
Speaker 2: you going to do? You can clean?
Speaker 3: But do you remember that they targeted at least in
Speaker 3: the maybe this is late eighties early nineties, they really
Speaker 3: started targeting say No to drugs stuff like in between yeah,
Speaker 3: Saturday morning curchies.
Speaker 1: And there's this one ad that I always try to find.
Speaker 3: I always going to a deep dive where this kid's
Speaker 3: like skateboarding through this dark town and it's like he's
Speaker 3: just skateboarding kind of like pasted a lot of drugs
Speaker 3: and stuff, and then that are sort of personified and
Speaker 3: then at the end it's like say no to drugs,
Speaker 3: which is what I think every all of those ads
Speaker 3: kind of had like some kind of like rock and
Speaker 3: roll kind of acousta electric guitar like brairals say No
Speaker 3: to Drugs, which did as a kid, make you be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: it is cool to say no to drugs, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: there's cool music.
Speaker 1: This kid's acting so cool.
Speaker 3: He's saying no to like the personified smoke or whatever.
Speaker 1: And this rocks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they definitely didn't prepare you for the fact that
Speaker 5: drugs were going to be offered to you by somebody
Speaker 5: was actually like a really nice and cool friend, you know,
Speaker 5: like a friend that like is a close friend that
Speaker 5: you've known your whole life. That it wasn't gonna be
Speaker 5: a horrible monster that SLINKs out of an alley.
Speaker 3: You know, or it's not gonna be like some like
Speaker 3: mean kid who's like everyone's doing it so you have
Speaker 3: to do it too, because the.
Speaker 1: Peer pressure thing was such a part of it.
Speaker 3: But you're right, it's like it's probably gonna be a cool,
Speaker 3: nice person you respect.
Speaker 5: Yeah, nobody wants to punch you to make you do
Speaker 5: the drugs that they worked hard to get, probably.
Speaker 1: That they paid money for.
Speaker 3: They're not going to be like, take my drugs for free,
Speaker 3: or I'll be mad at you when I paid all
Speaker 3: this money for them.
Speaker 4: Gonna punch you in the arm real hard.
Speaker 2: Mike, What was your kind of like were you snacking
Speaker 2: on anything where we're watching these cartoons or what's your.
Speaker 5: We had a we had a pretty pretty sugarless cereal
Speaker 5: how we are. The one indulgence we got was honey
Speaker 5: nut cheeriosa so good.
Speaker 1: Have you tried those today?
Speaker 4: Yes? They stand up big time, they do. I eat
Speaker 4: them raw. I rawed a lot them.
Speaker 5: Just handfuls in the thing, handfuls in the box.
Speaker 4: Just eat them. There's fallen through my fingers.
Speaker 1: They're so good.
Speaker 3: A lot of I feel like, I know, like some
Speaker 3: of my friends who our parents have, we'll pack cheerios
Speaker 3: in a little baggy for their kids or whatever, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, why don't.
Speaker 1: I do that for myself? Why don't you pack me
Speaker 1: any you know?
Speaker 5: And it was as a kid, it was the greatest
Speaker 5: in that like they did it. They did a real
Speaker 5: sneaky move by making cheerios sugary, you know, because cheerios
Speaker 5: were so obviously like the healthy cereal or whatever, are
Speaker 5: promoted as the healthy cereal. So the fact that that
Speaker 5: glaze of honey on them was just manufeeq.
Speaker 2: I was big into Raisin Brand Crunch You remember that one?
Speaker 4: Oh that was so yeah.
Speaker 1: That was such a sugar cereal disguison.
Speaker 3: Got It's Raisin brand, but it's Can you imagine anything
Speaker 3: more fun than just sitting and eating cereal and watching
Speaker 3: Saturday morning cartoons?
Speaker 1: I want to do it right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is, that would be, and it is weird.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 5: There's a couple of things that I try not to
Speaker 5: be to like kind of like the south By Southwest thing.
Speaker 5: I try not to be too like negative about, like
Speaker 5: things have changed.
Speaker 4: And I'm the old is good.
Speaker 5: And bad is true, but it is a little bit
Speaker 5: of a it is a little bit of a sad
Speaker 5: thing that kids probably don't experience Saturday morning cartoons, Like
Speaker 5: I did you know that, Like video rental stores is
Speaker 5: like a thing that like, oh man, I'm so bummed
Speaker 5: that people don't We'll never get to really experience that again,
Speaker 5: because that was like another an older highlight of my life.
Speaker 5: But like definitely Saturday morning cartoons. It's like, yeah, there's
Speaker 5: no there's kids don't probably even watch TV.
Speaker 4: They watch like YouTube or streamers.
Speaker 5: Or whatever, and it's just all on demand and stuff
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I did some research on this. Yeah, it started.
Speaker 2: The Saturday morning cartoons kind of started at Saturday and
Speaker 2: Sunday mornings and the big three television networks, as you said,
Speaker 2: started in the mid sixties, so the mid two thousands,
Speaker 2: and yeah, it just kind of declined I think in
Speaker 2: the mid two thousands, I think, just because of people's
Speaker 2: habits and everything, and probly the iPhone and then how
Speaker 2: these kids are, Like do you remember beta testing this
Speaker 2: app as a kid or something?
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, this is interesting though. Cable television networks have
Speaker 3: revived the practice of debuting their most popular animated programming
Speaker 3: on Saturday and Sunday mornings on a sporadic basis interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, I don't know. I have no idea really.
Speaker 1: If that still happened, I'm going to maybe test it
Speaker 1: out on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, try it turn on them because I'm.
Speaker 4: Interested to know.
Speaker 1: There's so many of the cartoons, like the ones that
Speaker 1: I loved were like Garfield.
Speaker 4: Was huge, was a big Garfield fan.
Speaker 3: Huge was Heathcliff on Saturday mornings because I used to
Speaker 3: get them confused and go, okay, I guess the difference
Speaker 3: is that Garfield lives kind of a lux life in
Speaker 3: Eastlasagna and sort of like just Annoys Jim and Heathcliff
Speaker 3: lives in lives in a bunch of cans.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then and then you had Clifford whose.
Speaker 1: Clifford the big red Dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of thing too.
Speaker 5: There was a show called Garfield and Friends, and it
Speaker 5: was like half was Garfield, but half was like the
Speaker 5: same style of art, but it was a bunch of
Speaker 5: people that lived on a farm. And there was an
Speaker 5: egg that hadn't hatched, but just its feet were out
Speaker 5: and walk around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Garfield, and I feel like, yeah, you would focus
Speaker 3: on the other characters.
Speaker 1: And there were other animals too.
Speaker 4: There were other animals.
Speaker 5: There was a bunch of other animal It was like
Speaker 5: a sidecard that was like the and Friends part of it.
Speaker 4: It had its own show.
Speaker 5: And yeah, there was like ducks and maybe some pigs,
Speaker 5: but mostly remember the one egg with the feet that's
Speaker 5: come out that is not real like it was.
Speaker 4: It was. I think they were introducing like.
Speaker 5: Like childhood anxiety because it was scared to crack open.
Speaker 5: It wanted to kind of stay in the in the
Speaker 5: in the egg womb of sorts.
Speaker 2: Yes, so the eggs name is Sheldon, and this is
Speaker 2: from us Acres, us Acres, yes, yes, yes, yeah, And
Speaker 2: he didn't want to come out of his show, which Sheldon.
Speaker 3: We got their producer Olivia saying you can watch it
Speaker 3: on Peacock. I'm going to go out on a limb
Speaker 3: and say that I now that you've said that, Mike,
Speaker 3: I think I liked Garfield and Friends more than I
Speaker 3: liked regular Garfield.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was more fun to have more characters.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you get more lasagna.
Speaker 1: Did you know, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know if you knew this, that our cat growing
Speaker 3: up who resembled Garfield, Pumpkin, who was a long haired
Speaker 3: orange cat.
Speaker 2: I remember the cat.
Speaker 3: I gave him the middle name Garfield, so his official
Speaker 3: name was Pumpkin Garfield Bayer.
Speaker 1: Did you know that.
Speaker 2: I vaguely remember this and that I thought about recently.
Speaker 2: But yeah, very very creative.
Speaker 3: That's how much. Yeah, Garfield is very influential. Yeah, Pumpkin
Speaker 3: Garfield Beyer.
Speaker 5: I remember noticing at one point that I think the
Speaker 5: guy who does Garfield's voice is the same guy who
Speaker 5: did Peter Venkman's voice on The Real Ghostbusters. Really yeah,
Speaker 5: I remember definitely hearing voices through different cartoons.
Speaker 4: There was a lot of people.
Speaker 5: And then when I got older, I was so freaked
Speaker 5: out because Dungeons and Dragons, which is that cartoon that
Speaker 5: I liked, had the voice of Donnie Most from Happy Days,
Speaker 5: Ralph mau from Happy Days of the Name Guys, and
Speaker 5: Willie Ames from Charles in Charge was like one of
Speaker 5: the main guys, just super recognizable people that like, I
Speaker 5: can't believe I never noticed.
Speaker 1: That it's shot.
Speaker 3: I texted you on earlier this week because I saw
Speaker 3: this thing on social media that the voice of night
Speaker 3: Rider was mister Feenie from Gerald Yeah, and I was like.
Speaker 5: What, I want to make a Shazam app that nails
Speaker 5: people's voices and commercials, because sometimes there'll be a car
Speaker 5: commercial and I'm like, I know this actor and it
Speaker 5: will Yeah, it will torture me forever.
Speaker 2: Yeaheah, that's good. Did you guys ever see that comic
Speaker 2: Garfield Minus Garfield?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's really great and I should check out
Speaker 2: It's someone went through and took Garfield out of all
Speaker 2: the comics, so it's just Jim talking to himself and
Speaker 2: it's like makes it like very dark and like exos. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's really cool.
Speaker 1: It's really funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Mike. Do you remember the Speaking of Saturday Morning,
Speaker 2: the Saturday Morning Cartoons soundtrack where a lot of like
Speaker 2: punk and alternative bands made these songs. Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2: I was trying to look it up. I look for
Speaker 2: it on Spotify and there's like a few of the
Speaker 2: songs are there, but it's like, you know, a lot
Speaker 2: of these soundtracks they're missing a lot. Yeah, the premise
Speaker 2: of the show, it was, it was a soundtrack. It
Speaker 2: came out in ninety five, and it was like all
Speaker 2: these alternative bands covering Saturday Morning Cartoon shows. So that
Speaker 2: the Ramones covered Spider Man. It was like Sponge Liz where.
Speaker 4: They're covered like the Banana Splits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is it a show or is it this is
Speaker 2: a soundtrack? This is a but it was like a
Speaker 2: lot of them big alternative bands of the you know, Tody, Sublime,
Speaker 2: Face to Face is on it, dig some Helmet, Collective Soul.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: How would one find this? What is it?
Speaker 2: It's called it's called Saturday Morning Cartoon's Greatest Hits. So
Speaker 2: it's just a soundtrack from ninety five. Like I said,
Speaker 2: it's not really on stream. It's probably on YouTube. But
Speaker 2: there was a song by band Vanessa really likes, Frontage
Speaker 2: Love Frente. Yeah, they cover the Flintstones song theme song.
Speaker 1: Okay, gotta check this out as asap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the name of the Flintstone song is called
Speaker 2: Open Up Your Heart and Let Sunshine In.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a song everyone knows from the Flintstone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess it's a song that was first
Speaker 2: written in nineteen fifty four, Okay.
Speaker 5: Is that maybe from an episode where there was a
Speaker 5: band in the episode?
Speaker 2: I think It says that the most famous recording featured
Speaker 2: Pebbles and Bam Bam performing the song during the closing
Speaker 2: credits of the show's last season, and it says although
Speaker 2: they they formed a rock band as teenagers in the seventies,
Speaker 2: this was kind of their biggest hit. Okay, So so
Speaker 2: it sounds like Pebbles and Bambam peak Hunter early with
Speaker 2: their musical career.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, right, right, as so many people do.
Speaker 4: That happened to me? Happened to me?
Speaker 3: Now, Jonah, you found this really interesting article that's six
Speaker 3: cringe worthy Saturday morning celebrity cartoons from the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 2: Curious if you remember any of these, because I didn't.
Speaker 1: One of them.
Speaker 3: I remembered, and I remember being a huge fan of
Speaker 3: these celebrities and still not want to yatcha.
Speaker 5: I'm guessing a lot of these had the celebrity in
Speaker 5: live action come and intro of the cartoon, because that happened,
Speaker 5: yeah right, Yeah, they.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't actually be their voice in the cartoons, but they
Speaker 3: do these like interstitials that were probably way easier for
Speaker 3: them to do and way less of a commitment, and
Speaker 3: they still probably got paid.
Speaker 2: Yeeah. So there was this article in Collider about it.
Speaker 2: MC hammer had one called Hammerman don't touch this, where
Speaker 2: it was he did voice the character some of these,
Speaker 2: some of these cartoons they actually had like no one
Speaker 2: from the bands involved or the celebrities, but your voice
Speaker 2: is character. Do you remember that at all, Mike?
Speaker 4: Those I don't remember.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh, I think the article says don't touch this?
Speaker 2: Oh gotcha? That's not the name of the right looks.
Speaker 3: Like it was written by you, Jonah, because the introduction
Speaker 3: of each show makes like kind of a kind of
Speaker 3: a punny smart This one.
Speaker 2: Was bad enough that no one wanted to touch it,
Speaker 2: something I would very Jonah. The next one is the
Speaker 2: New Kids on the Block. They call say the Wrong Stuff,
Speaker 2: which yeah, I think not the name. But do you
Speaker 2: remember that one that I remember?
Speaker 3: Remember that, I remember it coming out and just I
Speaker 3: don't know if I saw it once and realized it
Speaker 3: wasn't their real voices or I don't know. I just
Speaker 3: remember having no interest in it. And what's so funny
Speaker 3: is that is that this article says that it was
Speaker 3: like in a lot of these cartoons, the celebrities were heroes,
Speaker 3: but but in this one, the members of New Kids
Speaker 3: on the Block are just trying to navigate a life
Speaker 3: of fame, and like they'd find themselves in situations where
Speaker 3: they like wanted to be treated as ordinary people but
Speaker 3: were discovered by fans and cornered and needed help escaping.
Speaker 1: Like it seems like such a bad idea for a show.
Speaker 3: It seems like so not relatable, and oh yeah, to
Speaker 3: see them just be surrounded by fans and have to
Speaker 3: get out of the situation.
Speaker 5: It's like it's like if they made a Saturday in
Speaker 5: the morning cartoon of entourage.
Speaker 4: I'm just let's Vinny Chase getting into this week? Is
Speaker 4: he gonna make the deal?
Speaker 2: What disguise is he gonna wear to go to the
Speaker 2: grocery store?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, what about this appeals to kids?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that's a bizarre one. We also got a
Speaker 2: Mister T, which I guess lasted three seasons.
Speaker 4: Remember the Mister T Do I do? Yeah?
Speaker 5: And I think I'm pretty sure he did little interstitials
Speaker 5: of coming on like definitely, like it was a very
Speaker 5: all his stuff was very like anti drug, anti bullying, anti.
Speaker 1: Yes, they had a moral to every episode.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So this is a really interesting one. This one
Speaker 2: is about a trio of celebrity athletes called pro Stars,
Speaker 2: and it's Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky, and Bo Jackson.
Speaker 3: And I.
Speaker 2: Remember working on like the Ozone crisis, rainforest pollution, and
Speaker 2: it said they didn't voice the characters.
Speaker 3: It's also so again, these guys are making so much
Speaker 3: money by just like licensing their likenesses and then.
Speaker 1: They don't have to do any work. They don't have
Speaker 1: to do voiceovers at all.
Speaker 3: They just get to like come in and like while
Speaker 3: they're already at work, like record a festered.
Speaker 5: I've gotten lucky enough to record a couple voiceovers for
Speaker 5: some There's like a Japanese animation company that buys all
Speaker 5: Japanese animation in Dallas, and back when I lived there,
Speaker 5: I did a bunch of voiceovers for I never like
Speaker 5: got any lead characters, but I'd like go in for
Speaker 5: like three or four hours and just do one hundred
Speaker 5: different not one hundred, but like ten different guys, you know,
Speaker 5: Villain number two or Villager number six and what huh
Speaker 5: and a lot of stuff like that, for like Dragon
Speaker 5: ball Z and some shows like that. But it was
Speaker 5: the easiest job ever and it was most fun too.
Speaker 5: I can't imagine turning that gig down.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love doing voiceover stuff. It's so fun. It's
Speaker 3: so easy. You can literally wear your sweatpants, which since
Speaker 3: the pandemic, is all I really ever do anyway, But
Speaker 3: it's it's great.
Speaker 1: Jonah. What about this next one, which I might remember.
Speaker 2: Hul Cogan's Rock Rock and Wrestling.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I remember remember that one? You do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is yeah, this is a bunch of
Speaker 2: wrestlers and I think, yeah, yeah, Andre.
Speaker 4: The Giant was one of them.
Speaker 5: And I don't think it was his real voice, but
Speaker 5: Andre the Giant having I think he was like Austrian
Speaker 5: or somewhere Eastern block, so we had this very thick accent.
Speaker 5: And I remember an episode where they found a baby
Speaker 5: elephant and he kept saying baby elephant. And that's just
Speaker 5: a random thing stuck in my head of me and
Speaker 5: my brothers baby elephant.
Speaker 3: Well, this this article does. Is The weird thing about
Speaker 3: this show is there was little wrestling. Instead, the show
Speaker 3: focused on strange plots like cleaning Mean Jean's house or
Speaker 3: Hulk Hogan becoming Robin Hulk and defending Sherwood Forrest with
Speaker 3: his merry band of wrestlers and after getting contact machine.
Speaker 2: Do you think at any point like the writers were like,
Speaker 2: it seems a little too hot there. I think we
Speaker 2: got to reel it back in a little bit. Maybe
Speaker 2: the time travel feels.
Speaker 5: I think they should have used that in the in
Speaker 5: the squared circle up there?
Speaker 4: Do that in the ring for real?
Speaker 2: Well? I think that also. My memory is that also
Speaker 2: wrestling was on, like WWF wrestling was.
Speaker 3: On right right right, So when I watch them wrestle,
Speaker 3: when you can watch cartoons of them cleaning up rodge
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where does a vacuum cleaner go? Anyways? And the
Speaker 2: last one is a Kid and Play had a cartoon
Speaker 2: oh wow, And they didn't voice their own characters, but
Speaker 2: there were live action segments that also included Saltan Pepper
Speaker 2: cool Mode, and it was focused on how to help
Speaker 2: kids make good choices and stay out of trouble. Unfortunately, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think this.
Speaker 3: It was really cheesy, so so the lessons didn't really
Speaker 3: get learned, and no one watched it, it sounds what.
Speaker 5: Did little kids like Kid and Play Too, Like that
Speaker 5: felt like such a teenager kind of Yeah, like like.
Speaker 2: Hits, he kind of crossed over, I think into like
Speaker 2: being kind of like a kind of cultural like pop
Speaker 2: culture phenomenon.
Speaker 3: I think, well, yeah, they had the movie in nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety House Party, which was a huge success, and I
Speaker 3: think maybe the creators maybe thought it aired from September
Speaker 3: to December nineteen ninety, so it kind of came out
Speaker 3: at the same time. Maybe there was a big kid
Speaker 3: in Play push and in the movie for teenagers and
Speaker 3: adults at work great, and in this animated show that
Speaker 3: seems like it absolutely stunk. Kidd in Play seems like
Speaker 3: having them go from like having a house party and
Speaker 3: a movie and probably like kind of trying to get
Speaker 3: out of trouble to teaching lessons in a cartoon.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that that Kid and Played Like they
Speaker 2: had that kind of famous dance where it's like you
Speaker 2: you do it so kinograt. Yeah, I think like everyone
Speaker 2: would try to do it, but like no one really
Speaker 2: knew how to do it, Like you'd be just like
Speaker 2: kicking your friends sort of like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was hard to coordinate it. They were really
Speaker 3: pretty talented dancers.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they could do that thing where they hold
Speaker 5: where you hold your foot and then you jump and
Speaker 5: make your foot go through the loop of you holding
Speaker 5: the foot right.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I remember my friends trying to do that
Speaker 3: dance and copy them, and I remember being like, there's
Speaker 3: just no way this.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to try and do this. It
Speaker 1: looks you.
Speaker 4: Could get Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, Mike, you know you famously have have have gotten hurt,
Speaker 2: you know during live performances jumping off things. Have you
Speaker 2: ever tried to do like a kid and play tight
Speaker 2: move off like gage on stage off maybe like a
Speaker 2: pa or some I don't know, Uh, dare accept.
Speaker 3: Now, Jony, you said, Mike has famously got And I'd
Speaker 3: like to hear about just one example of one of
Speaker 3: these injuries, if it's not too painful or recount.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the worst.
Speaker 5: My little heart just makes me want to go for
Speaker 5: it up there. And one time, this was actually at
Speaker 5: south By Southwest we were playing this. We would play
Speaker 5: in this little bar called the Jackalobe that we would
Speaker 5: play every year. It was like a free show and
Speaker 5: just have as many people come in. It was kind
Speaker 5: of like a side like an unofficial show, and I
Speaker 5: jumped off a bar and I timed it poorly because
Speaker 5: like during the set, I went and got they let
Speaker 5: me pour drinks for everybody, Like while I was singing,
Speaker 5: I was like pouring shots and I gave and they
Speaker 5: were giving out shots. So everybody was holding up their
Speaker 5: shot glasses. And I jumped into the crowd forgetting that
Speaker 5: everyone's sweet sweet booze was a lot more precious to
Speaker 5: them than catching old Mike.
Speaker 2: Gosh, and I.
Speaker 5: Fell and I collapsed my lung. I collapsed.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I was in the hospital for about a week
Speaker 5: with a tube in between my ribs, kind of working
Speaker 5: it out.
Speaker 4: Learned a valuable lesson that day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you're okay.
Speaker 4: And yeah, me too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's feels like what did you do? You remember
Speaker 1: what you did? Right after? You felt like were you unconscious.
Speaker 5: Or were you Like I finished this, I tried finishing
Speaker 5: the song. It was the last song in the set, Okay,
Speaker 5: But I finished this song, but it sounded I think
Speaker 5: it probably sounded like when you have a balloon that
Speaker 5: has a like a like a rip in the balloon
Speaker 5: and you're trying to blow it up. It just kind
Speaker 5: of this right, oh flapping airy thing. It was pretty
Speaker 5: It was pretty bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, and I also just want to give
Speaker 2: a plug to my like I said, Robot Gamble, it's
Speaker 2: one of my favorite bands. Like, my wife kind of
Speaker 2: makes fun of me because, like I say, like every band,
Speaker 2: She's like, how many bands are like your favorite band? Guy,
Speaker 2: Mike's one of my favorite bands. She's like, you say
Speaker 2: that like four times a day about different bands. But
Speaker 2: but yeah, and I know something to crow about just
Speaker 2: got re released. And yeah, I did a bio for
Speaker 2: you guys for Vocal a long time ago for The
Speaker 2: Wolf You Feed, which is still like one of my
Speaker 2: favorite record, like just an amazing record, and all the
Speaker 2: other stuff you do and broken Gold with Ian and
Speaker 2: on all you guys. I'm just such a big fan of.
Speaker 4: Every Oh thanks Jonah.
Speaker 3: Okay, Jonah's absolutely geeking out. So it's time to take
Speaker 3: a commercial break.
Speaker 2: But we'll be right back with Mike. Weaby and we
Speaker 2: are back.
Speaker 3: We have a game to play with you now, Mike
Speaker 3: and Jonah loves kind of a pop culture phrase, which
Speaker 3: is congratulations, you played yourself, So he's decided to name
Speaker 3: this game. Congratulations, you played yourself?
Speaker 1: Product edition, Congratulations you played yourself? Yeah, Jonah, do you
Speaker 1: want to explain it?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 2: Yeah. So this is a new segment. This is going
Speaker 2: to be a reoccurring segment for at least a couple
Speaker 2: episodes where we discussed three products that were discontinued in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three and pick one of them we'd like
Speaker 2: to bring back. In other words, which one of these
Speaker 2: corporations completely played themselves? So there I will pick. So
Speaker 2: basically from CNM business this article, we'll pick three of
Speaker 2: these things I got discontinued last year, and then we
Speaker 2: decide which one we want to bring back. I guess
Speaker 2: the logic being if you discontinued something that we want
Speaker 2: to bring back, you played yourself. So the first one
Speaker 2: is the Duncucino. So it's one of the most recognizable
Speaker 2: drinks at Dunkin Donuts. It was added to the menus
Speaker 2: in two thousand and it was supposed to be a
Speaker 2: unique blend of coffee and hot chocolate. There was a
Speaker 2: frozen version. Two Duncan Donuts didn't say why they discontinued it,
Speaker 2: but people are speculating it's because it just wasn't selling. Well.
Speaker 2: I guess there is a hack where if you order
Speaker 2: a hot chocolate with a turbo shot of express espresso,
Speaker 2: that can sound similar to a Dunkecino, but basically after
Speaker 2: you know, two decades of Duncacino's gone, Mike, any any
Speaker 2: thoughts about the duncucino discontinue.
Speaker 5: We here in Texas, we don't have very many dunkin Donuts.
Speaker 5: They're not as prevalent as they are in other parts.
Speaker 5: So I've never had a Dunkecino, but I definitely know
Speaker 5: about the duncacino from mostly from online. But it was
Speaker 5: in that al Pacino in that Adam Sandler movie did
Speaker 5: a whole rap where he was going dunk dunk dunk
Speaker 5: caucino really and it was it was the al Pacino. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's really funny, and it's it's where al Pacino's promoting
Speaker 5: dunccino as and and he's just singing a bunch of
Speaker 5: lines from various like really famous.
Speaker 4: Uh. I can't remember what Adam Sandler movie is. I
Speaker 4: think maybe maybe Jack and Jill maybe.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yes, our producer Olivia saying it's sirm Jack
Speaker 3: and Jill.
Speaker 2: Okay, I haven't seen that one, which is weird because
Speaker 2: I've been watching a lot of like later early two
Speaker 2: thousands era Adam Sandler movies recently, because there are some
Speaker 2: bizarre ones like I'm watching Click and all of these
Speaker 2: kind of yeah yeah yeah yeah dunks. Okay, So no
Speaker 2: strong feelings.
Speaker 4: I don't have strong feelings.
Speaker 5: It sounds like it sounds like something too sugary from me,
Speaker 5: like drink wise, I tend to like my coffee just
Speaker 5: straight black, So I'm probably not going to fight for
Speaker 5: this to come back.
Speaker 2: Sure that's fair, Vanessa, what are your thoughts on.
Speaker 1: The jo No, what did you say the hack was
Speaker 1: for this again? That you could order it shot?
Speaker 2: I think it's like a hot chocolate with espresso or.
Speaker 4: Shot of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I let's let's also say, like, okay,
Speaker 2: like is this really a hack? I don't know, like
Speaker 2: you know, let's well give this too much credit.
Speaker 3: Well, I was just gonna say, I just don't know
Speaker 3: a ton of adults, which generally adults are who drink coffee.
Speaker 3: I don't know a ton of adults who are like
Speaker 3: I want to have a coffee that's also hot chocolate.
Speaker 3: So it doesn't seem like a huge loss to me,
Speaker 3: although I guess maybe this was more for the teenage
Speaker 3: market because I remember as a teenager I was always
Speaker 3: ordering Cafe mochas because I was like, I'm being cool
Speaker 3: and drinking coffee. But at the same time, it just
Speaker 3: sort of tastes like hot chocolate but just not quite
Speaker 3: as good. So yeah, I just don't know the dunk
Speaker 3: Chino I am. I'm surprised because I feel like, maybe
Speaker 3: because of that movie, but that name is so recognizable
Speaker 3: as someone who's always lived in areas that are around
Speaker 3: a lot of Duncan Donuts. But I don't know, I
Speaker 3: don't feel super strongly about it. I feel more strongly
Speaker 3: about it in that it's such a recognizable name, unless
Speaker 3: that like I'm like, oh, I can't get a hot
Speaker 3: chocolate coffee at Duncan Donuts, which already sounds pretty disgusting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jonah,
Speaker 3: how do you feel about this?
Speaker 2: Look, it's no secret my feelings about Duncan. I live.
Speaker 2: I live the opposite of you, Mike. I live in
Speaker 2: an area where there's like one every like twenty feet. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you know, I've had my own issues with our
Speaker 2: local dunkle Donuts. I have emailed with their management about
Speaker 2: certain things i'd like to see change, which haven't.
Speaker 1: Always getting it. They probably love you there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now you know I have my own kind
Speaker 2: of home espresso set up. I can be a little
Speaker 2: snobby about coffee. Yeah. This, this to me is something
Speaker 2: I would never order unless it was on their rewards app.
Speaker 2: What was like, spend like five cents and you get
Speaker 2: it for free. But the way they've restructured the reward
Speaker 2: system that you know that's never going to happen.
Speaker 1: Don't get you all started.
Speaker 2: That's a whole other. So yeah, so no, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a I don't like the really
Speaker 2: sugary stuff either, so I would say no in this one. Yeah, Vanessa,
Speaker 2: what about you? What's the next one here?
Speaker 3: Okay, So the next one is Raspberry Rally cookies. This
Speaker 3: is a Girl Scouts cookie, and they say while Raspberry
Speaker 3: Rally was extremely popular last year, they're taking a pause
Speaker 3: this season to prioritize supplying their classic varieties. They introduced
Speaker 3: this cookie last year as a sister cookie to the
Speaker 3: iconic Thin Mints, but in the Raspberry Rally the cookie
Speaker 3: part is replaced with a bright pink berry flavored part.
Speaker 3: So I guess that's instead of the peppermint, it's raspberry,
Speaker 3: and it's dipped in the same chocolate coating, And I
Speaker 3: guess the news that it wasn't coming back created an
Speaker 3: online shopping spree, with some people some chapters reporting they
Speaker 3: sold out of the five dollar boxes in less than
Speaker 3: a day. Resellers are selling them on eBay for as
Speaker 3: much as thirty dollars a box. So the raspberry Rally
Speaker 3: cookie again in vision of thin mint, but instead of mint,
Speaker 3: it's raspberry.
Speaker 1: How do you feel, Mike? Are you?
Speaker 4: Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna miss these?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 4: I never got a chance to try those, but they
Speaker 4: sound delicious. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't know if they sound going through eBay and
Speaker 5: getting thirty bucks for them, but it sounds.
Speaker 4: It sounds good.
Speaker 5: It sounds I mean, I'm generally a fan of all
Speaker 5: the girls Scout cookies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know. To me, I find it so
Speaker 2: interesting these these cultural phenomenons with these products, because I
Speaker 2: just saw an article this week about you know that
Speaker 2: company Stanley that makes make those mugs. Oh yeah, there's
Speaker 2: this pink Valentine's Day Stanley mug and target has them,
Speaker 2: and like people are stampeding to get them, and it's
Speaker 2: like why because you're told this is an important thing.
Speaker 2: Like it's so weird how these things catch on. How
Speaker 2: is this different than any other color scarcity? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's really it's like kind of marketing, like how
Speaker 2: do they figure out to get people to care about
Speaker 2: this stuff? And kind of with these cookies, like yeah,
Speaker 2: they sound good, but it's also like my mind always
Speaker 2: goes to, oh, maybe this is like a strategic move
Speaker 2: where they get everyone, yeah, continue there on purpose. Yeah,
Speaker 2: with all this stuff, with all these products, it's like
Speaker 2: do they just take them away to bring them back? Mike?
Speaker 2: Almost like when a band's like we're breaking up and
Speaker 2: then like a year later they're like, now it's a reunion,
Speaker 2: and it it gets people excited out. Sometimes.
Speaker 5: I wonder that's the classic Coke new coke theory. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: because remember when they took they took classic coke away,
Speaker 5: or they took Coke away and made new coke and
Speaker 5: then brought back Coca Cola classic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know, so yeah, to Mike's point, yeah, I
Speaker 2: think Raspberry I like Raspberry. I like sounds good the
Speaker 2: meant but it's if it's not there, then like, oh,
Speaker 2: I want to try some cookie, they don't have it,
Speaker 2: I'll guess something else.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not jumping on eBay and starting to bid and more. Vanessa,
Speaker 2: what about you?
Speaker 3: Well, I just want to be clear with the listeners
Speaker 3: that nowhere in this article does it say it was
Speaker 3: a marketing move. I think that that's Jonah's that's something
Speaker 3: Jonah thinks might be happening behind the scenes, and that's
Speaker 3: quite possibvetial.
Speaker 2: That's quite possible.
Speaker 3: It's actually probably a really smart move by them to
Speaker 3: be like changing up the cookies every so often, because
Speaker 3: then probably the ones that aren't available anymore always get
Speaker 3: sold out right away. The reason that I don't feel
Speaker 3: like we need to bring these back, but I sort
Speaker 3: of agree with what Girl Scouts did here is because
Speaker 3: I always get bummed out when I go to buy
Speaker 3: Girl Scout cookies and it's all these new flavors, Like
Speaker 3: I just want to buy the nostalgic ones. I feel
Speaker 3: like the basic original nostalgic ones were so good that
Speaker 3: it's sometimes a bummer when it's like the only ones
Speaker 3: we have left are these ones that are I've never
Speaker 3: heard of before, and I don't know. I just feel
Speaker 3: like Girl Scout cookies are so good and there's no
Speaker 3: need to really mess with the originals. But also I
Speaker 3: probably sound like a Karen right now, So so I
Speaker 3: don't know. Jonah, do you want to read this last story?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So the last one is, uh, there's an article standing
Speaker 2: in here. Foodies are devis stated that Ronzoni will discontinue
Speaker 2: its beloved star shaped pastina. So pasta brand Ronzoni has
Speaker 2: announced their discontinuing its pastina product, which is a little
Speaker 2: star shaped pasta. They posted earlier this month on Instagram.
Speaker 2: We hear you and greatly appreciate your love for Ronzoni Pastina.
Speaker 2: After extensive efforts, regretfully announced that ron Pastina is being discontinued.
Speaker 2: This wasn't a decision that we wanted to make. It
Speaker 2: says that you know this was due to a long
Speaker 2: term supplier that announce wo no longer be able to
Speaker 2: make pastina starting in January twenty twenty three. They said
Speaker 2: they searched for an alternative solution, but we're unable to
Speaker 2: identify viable option to make pastina and the same beloved
Speaker 2: small shape, size and standards you've come to expect from
Speaker 2: ronzon So. Yeah, so they're basically saying, I don't know.
Speaker 2: The pasta company they buy it from was like our
Speaker 2: star machine's broken. Yeah, I don't know. What do you
Speaker 2: two think about the ron Zoni pastina discontinue, Mike, what
Speaker 2: do you think it?
Speaker 5: Just this smells like some sort of lie. There's some
Speaker 5: sort of cover up going here. Yeah, there's somebody's not
Speaker 5: telling that you're they're pulling the wool over the American
Speaker 5: public's eyes with this pasta zone debacle.
Speaker 2: It's interesting because it doesn't seem like it would be
Speaker 2: that complicated to cut pasta in different shape.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're very tiny, I will say that of that.
Speaker 2: Okay, Ivan, that's just speaking up for big Pasta.
Speaker 3: But I just want to give a shout out to
Speaker 3: our dad right now because what you just said, Mike
Speaker 3: reminded me of this one time. Jonah does not remember this.
Speaker 3: I've already asked him that our dad confronted He confronted
Speaker 3: someone he worked on I think it was his old boss,
Speaker 3: and he told him, he said, you're not going to
Speaker 3: pull the wool, and then he pretended to pull wool
Speaker 3: over his eyes and.
Speaker 1: Then he SAIDs over my eyes.
Speaker 3: And I remember him coming home and telling us about
Speaker 3: when he did this, and it was so crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta min it out, you mind o wool
Speaker 4: over my eyes?
Speaker 5: You give it a space in between wool and over
Speaker 5: my eyes to actually pull down that wool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do not remember this, but I have no
Speaker 2: doubt that it happened.
Speaker 3: It's very tat I will say that I feel I
Speaker 3: actually feel like it is sad that this went away
Speaker 3: because I just, first of all, I want to say
Speaker 3: I never knew it existed because I thought those Little Stars.
Speaker 1: Only came in certain soups.
Speaker 3: I didn't know you could buy the Little Star pasta
Speaker 3: on its own, or else I would have been buying
Speaker 3: that stuff day and night. But I think it's sad
Speaker 3: it's going away. But again, it's sort of like who
Speaker 3: am I to speak when I didn't I've never bought it,
Speaker 3: and I didn't know it existed as a product on
Speaker 3: its own. So I think it's sad it's going away.
Speaker 3: But I also it just feels like it's, you know,
Speaker 3: now it's twenty twenty four. It feels like, you know,
Speaker 3: for a company to be like, there's nothing we can do.
Speaker 1: This company that used to the pasta says.
Speaker 3: It feels, uh, what's what's really happening?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, hands are tied. It's impossible.
Speaker 5: Technology, the technology doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right right right, yeah, and so this article as
Speaker 2: that says pastina is a smaller shape that runs Zoni
Speaker 2: cells the corner to their website. The petite five pointed
Speaker 2: stars are typically cooked in soups with cheese and eggs.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, you know when you get soup and it
Speaker 3: has little stars in it and you go, Okay, I
Speaker 3: guess this rocks. That's what I'm That's when I'm envisioning. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: continue making star pasta that's bigger sized stars.
Speaker 2: It sounds to me like they are. It sounds to
Speaker 2: me it's just a small star. The technology, I know,
Speaker 2: it's crazy. We can like three D print a house,
Speaker 2: but they can't figure do this.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest and say, I don't even know
Speaker 3: that I need the star. In this photo that I'm
Speaker 3: looking at, the stars are so small that I'm like,
Speaker 3: they just you can't even see. I want the stars
Speaker 3: to be a little bigger anyway, So I'm not I'm
Speaker 3: not feeling too strongly about this, Jonah, how do you feel?
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's fine. I feel like,
Speaker 2: in the scope of things that I'm concerned about that
Speaker 2: I want to put my energy into petitioning about this.
Speaker 2: One's so far down on the list that it it's yeah,
Speaker 2: it's hard for me to even register. But you know,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Sure, Okay, So between Dunkecino, Raspberry Rally Cookies, and Pastina Pasta,
Speaker 3: which one do you wish was going back into production?
Speaker 5: Mic Oh, I believe the Girl Scout Cookies the Raspberry.
Speaker 4: Okay, And I mean I'm sure I would like the pasta.
Speaker 5: But more than wanting the pasta back, I just don't
Speaker 5: want to be lied to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, fair, fair Vanessa. What about you?
Speaker 3: I think it weirdly, I'm going to go for the
Speaker 3: Dunkacino just because I feel like it's such a classic drink.
Speaker 3: And my other thing is, like, I know, you don't
Speaker 3: think it's that much of a hack, Jonah, of just
Speaker 3: getting a hot chocolate and putting a shot of espresso
Speaker 3: in it. But I can't imagine. It's hard to have
Speaker 3: the ingredients on hand to make a dunkecino if they
Speaker 3: already have stuff for hot chocolates and for coffees. But
Speaker 3: but I'm not you know, I don't own a franchise
Speaker 3: of you know, I don't own one of the stores.
Speaker 3: I don't know what goes into it. So but I
Speaker 3: will just say, from a nostalgic point of view and
Speaker 3: knowing the name of it, Duncacino.
Speaker 2: What about your Jonah, I'm gonna just, you know, just
Speaker 2: to maybe play devil advocate here, I'm going to go
Speaker 2: with the pastina. Like I said, looks, you know, if
Speaker 2: this is really the only one like this, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's nice to have for these egg and cheese
Speaker 2: soups people are eating all the time. And I would
Speaker 2: also say that I think all three of these products
Speaker 2: will be back in twenty twenty five. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's my prediction. So let's check in next January. Let's
Speaker 2: see where.
Speaker 1: We're Yeah, put it on our cows.
Speaker 2: Put it on our cows. So is that a phrase?
Speaker 1: I think? Yeah, put it on the cow.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, So Mike, what and I thing to promote?
Speaker 2: Where can people find out about you? You know, you
Speaker 2: got so many bands, you got so much going on.
Speaker 2: What's where can people find out more?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Instagram is a fine space. Rs Mike Weabet on Instagram. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and there's a new Riverboat Gamblers just reissued a our record,
Speaker 5: Something to Crow About, and then there'll be a new
Speaker 5: Dracula's record coming out sometime in this new year.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure when, though.
Speaker 2: Amazing, And speaking of the Ramones and Saturday Morning cartoons,
Speaker 2: your cover covered my favorite Ramote song with the Gamblers
Speaker 2: Bonso goes to Bitberg.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that was so fun.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, incredible cover. But yeah, check out all
Speaker 2: Mike's bands are all incredible. Ben Vanessa's going to make
Speaker 2: fun of me for complimenting Mike so much, but he
Speaker 2: deserves it, so I'm just going to do it any
Speaker 2: he does.
Speaker 3: He does, And but I was going to say, Jonah's
Speaker 3: geeking out again, so it's time for our outro. That
Speaker 3: was really fun. Thanks so much to Mike for joining
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Speaker 3: Our childhood and cultural touchstones like Saturday Morning cartoons.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Mike, Thanks Mike, Thank you,