Speaker 1: So as both of you probably know, I can't do
Speaker 1: math numbers and I do not get along at all.
Speaker 1: A calculated is a real thing, and my brain just
Speaker 1: does not do math. You put numbers in front of
Speaker 1: me and it swims around like Percy Jackson.
Speaker 2: Now, I remember you had a brilliant invention back in
Speaker 2: the nineties. Do you remember your invention that you want
Speaker 2: to know? I want to know, very simple and you
Speaker 2: probably would have made a lot of money before phones
Speaker 2: were invented or calculators. Yeah, no, no, you wanted to
Speaker 2: do remember do you remember you were like, why don't
Speaker 2: restaurants have you know, because every restaurant has the the
Speaker 2: bill like the billfold that, why don't you sell a
Speaker 2: will fold with a calculating calculators?
Speaker 3: Like that's a brilliant idea.
Speaker 1: I was gonna call it a will fold, thank you
Speaker 1: very much, which would have been brilliant, and that's still trademarked.
Speaker 1: But occasionally something mathematical pops up that intrigues me and
Speaker 1: is very strange. Have either of you ever heard of
Speaker 1: capri cars constant?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, So Capricr's constant is any four digit number you pick,
Speaker 1: no matter how random the number is as long as
Speaker 1: two of the numbers are different. So like you can't
Speaker 1: pick one one one one, but you can pick one
Speaker 1: one one zero as long as two of the numbers
Speaker 1: are different. If you take any random number, then you
Speaker 1: take that number and you rewrite it in order of
Speaker 1: descending numbers.
Speaker 3: So I wrote it down. So for instance, if I
Speaker 3: started with three and.
Speaker 4: Fifty eight, okay, three five eight, if.
Speaker 1: You then write it eight seven five three, so in
Speaker 1: descending order as you're going, okay, okay, then you reverse
Speaker 1: that number, so three five seven eight, and you subtract
Speaker 1: it from the first number.
Speaker 3: Does that make sense right?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 1: So seven three five eight becomes eight seven five three
Speaker 1: minus three five seven eight, because you've taken that number
Speaker 1: eight seven five three, and you reversed it and you
Speaker 1: subtract it from itself.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Capricar's constant found out in nineteen forty was a mathematician
Speaker 1: in nineteen forty. No matter what number you start with,
Speaker 1: no matter how random you think it is, you always
Speaker 1: get to six, one hundred and seventy four. I've now
Speaker 1: done this thirty times over the weekend. And no matter
Speaker 1: what four digits you start with, no matter how random
Speaker 1: they are.
Speaker 3: You always end up with six, one hundred and seventy four.
Speaker 4: I did not know there would be math this morning.
Speaker 3: I know it's fun though, in the kind of way.
Speaker 3: But what if you're starting with hold on, if you're.
Speaker 2: Starting with one, one thousand and two hundred, like okay,
Speaker 2: and you go ahead, there you go.
Speaker 3: You just picked it one thousand, two hundred, okay.
Speaker 5: So when you one, you want to change to zero zero.
Speaker 4: So now you write two starting zero.
Speaker 3: One one hundred one zero zero, And then you're saying
Speaker 3: it's going to end up being six thousand when I
Speaker 3: subtract something from it.
Speaker 1: When you then subtract, you'll get another number. You do
Speaker 1: it again, you subtract, you get another number, You do
Speaker 1: it again. Eventually you always get to six thousand, one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy.
Speaker 5: Way, you have to keep subtracting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you have to keep you keep going.
Speaker 4: So it feels like chem trails.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is here's for instance, what I started with,
Speaker 1: So the eight seven five to three, then I got
Speaker 1: five thousand, one hundred and seventy five. Okay, So I
Speaker 1: did it again, seven five y five to one. I
Speaker 1: got five thousand, nine ninety four. You keep going, so one, two, three, four, five,
Speaker 1: six down. I ended up with six thousand, one hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy four. Sometimes it takes three times, sometimes it
Speaker 1: takes eight times. Sometimes it takes four times, but you
Speaker 1: always end up with six and seventy four.
Speaker 4: You just held up a notebook that looked like a
Speaker 4: Unibomber manifesto.
Speaker 3: Oh no, that's not that.
Speaker 2: But if you just have to keep doing something to
Speaker 2: reach something, doesn't it kind of.
Speaker 1: Like that you'd always randomly reach the same for random
Speaker 1: we're actually working to get to the same thing. Eight ones.
Speaker 1: That didn't add up again. But it doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: you start with. That's the randomness. If you, like you said,
Speaker 1: you start with twelve hundred, or you start seven hundredatives right.
Speaker 2: You're talking about getting so I started with twelve hundred.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get into No, you wouldn't mean.
Speaker 3: Okay, because you reverse to do it.
Speaker 4: I don't care if this takes forty five minutes. I'm
Speaker 4: doing it.
Speaker 1: I want to keep twelve hundred twelve hundred zero zero
Speaker 1: two one zero zero now reverse it, so zero zero
Speaker 1: to one, okay, So you take I've got my nineteen
Speaker 1: seventies calculator.
Speaker 4: Okay, subtract zero zero one to two from two to
Speaker 4: one zero one hundred huh minus.
Speaker 3: Minus twenty one, because that's what it comes down to.
Speaker 5: You end up.
Speaker 1: It should be tw elf right, you reverse, you reverse it,
Speaker 1: so two one zero zero one two corecting the reverse
Speaker 1: hang on a second zero zero one zero zero, and
Speaker 1: then you reverse it one two zero.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it's twelve hundred. Excuse me, you're right. It's
Speaker 3: because you reverse it one two zero.
Speaker 4: Zero twelve hundred. I thought it's zero zero one.
Speaker 3: No, No, you're right, you're it's early. You're right, it's no,
Speaker 3: it's zero zero two zero zero two one.
Speaker 5: You know what you could use right now? A will fold,
Speaker 5: A willfold with hell.
Speaker 4: No, you're right, it's so twelve hundred one zero zero
Speaker 4: reversed is zero zero one two.
Speaker 3: Correct? Right, So there you guys.
Speaker 2: One of the main reasons I chose Columbia College is
Speaker 2: they don't do university.
Speaker 5: They do not have a math requirement. Science requirement, but
Speaker 5: no math requirement.
Speaker 3: There's no math requirement at all.
Speaker 5: No, you have to have you have to.
Speaker 3: It's everyone tasty school. We talked to test exactly.
Speaker 2: You cannot graduate from from Colombia without being able to swim, or.
Speaker 5: You know, you can get a special like you know,
Speaker 5: if I still.
Speaker 4: Need to understand, we have we just we're going to
Speaker 4: subtract twelve from twenty one hundred.
Speaker 1: Correct, twenty one hundred minus twelve equals two thousand.
Speaker 4: Eighty eight eighty eight eighty eight.
Speaker 3: Okay, so then you reverse.
Speaker 1: So then now in's do the descending order again eight
Speaker 1: eight zero are eight eight to two zero and then
Speaker 1: reverse it zero to eight.
Speaker 2: Do you know how many listeners are having a panic
Speaker 2: attack right now, like they all they wanted was to
Speaker 2: go back to the nineties for Boy Meets World and
Speaker 2: instead they're having a math class.
Speaker 3: It's just zero. And then there's like.
Speaker 2: Our ten percent listeners who are actual mathematicians and scientists
Speaker 2: out there who are like, yeah.
Speaker 4: Ten percent, Wow, you're going to percentage out. Okay, percent
Speaker 4: is a large percentage of our population.
Speaker 3: People that work in like medicine or.
Speaker 2: No, okay, maths, you're right, but like scientists, like people
Speaker 2: who actually use math on the dealer.
Speaker 4: Basis addition and subtraction. Yeah, you're right, it probably is
Speaker 4: ten percent.
Speaker 3: People have to.
Speaker 2: Use Actually to accountant, you have to use no map.
Speaker 2: There's lots of jobs out.
Speaker 5: There that require math.
Speaker 3: You guys keep talking, I'm just gonna keep doing the numbers.
Speaker 4: Wait, I'm obsessed with this. This is truly wonderful and
Speaker 4: I love that. He was like, listen, you guys know
Speaker 4: I'm not good at math, but let me tell you
Speaker 4: about this thing. And then had we spent we had
Speaker 4: to spend a minute and a half talking about what
Speaker 4: the reverse of.
Speaker 3: Two exactly two? This is what I'm a calculia is
Speaker 3: a real thing.
Speaker 4: So then maybe you shouldn't teach us about maybe you
Speaker 4: just stick to history.
Speaker 3: So what does this mean?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 1: What is?
Speaker 6: What is?
Speaker 3: That's the question?
Speaker 1: That's what question for cars? Constant help you solve or
Speaker 1: do for me? I think that maybe there's no such
Speaker 1: thing as random. As much as you would think that
Speaker 1: everything's random, there's actually some sort of a pattern even
Speaker 1: in the randomness, which would be kind of fractal geometry,
Speaker 1: I guess, but it's there's something interesting.
Speaker 3: I just thought that was it's like, no matter what
Speaker 3: you start with.
Speaker 1: So wait, I'm at nine to nine six three minus
Speaker 1: three six nine nine equals six two.
Speaker 4: Six four, Okay, right close?
Speaker 3: Six four to two minus two again. Sometimes it takes
Speaker 3: a while discuss amongst yourself.
Speaker 5: Did you know that if you take any episode of
Speaker 5: Boy Meets World and you subtract the advertisements, you you
Speaker 5: always get twenty two minutes.
Speaker 4: YEA, sure, sometimes it's twenty one minutes and twenty seven seconds, but.
Speaker 3: It's all I can't wait.
Speaker 2: How long our scripts were at the beginning of the week,
Speaker 2: You're right, sub the same.
Speaker 4: Sometimes we get fifty five page scrip.
Speaker 5: Fifty five page script? What were the longest scripts? Do
Speaker 5: you guys remember?
Speaker 4: I mean Goli World had some that were fifty eight
Speaker 4: pages sixty But yeah, it would be get one and
Speaker 4: we'd be like, yeah, it'd be on, it'd be this
Speaker 4: big weeks it down ago. Here we go, we have
Speaker 4: to tour, we have to trim half of this.
Speaker 3: Do we should seven six?
Speaker 1: Well, you've eventually end up with seven six four to
Speaker 1: one minus one four six seven for six one seven
Speaker 1: four you always get to six thousand, one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy four. And that was starting with writers twelve hundred.
Speaker 2: What was Caapricard doing, like, you know, like he was
Speaker 2: a mathematician, he was doing an understand.
Speaker 3: But like, how do you decide it's.
Speaker 1: Uh, the same way these people on Instagram make these
Speaker 1: new kind of fangled dinners that my wife will have
Speaker 1: me look at. Where it's like who decided to take
Speaker 1: Sarachimeo and Oreos and make something out of it? The
Speaker 1: Universe Rider it's chaos, well, but it's not. It's all
Speaker 1: six and seventy four.
Speaker 4: Welcome to pod meets Capricorn's Constant or whatever it was called.
Speaker 4: Danielle offishal Capricorns.
Speaker 3: I'm right strong and I'm Wilfredell.
Speaker 4: Okay, I have an I have a little pre show
Speaker 4: note here.
Speaker 1: The O. J.
Speaker 4: Simpson jersey that we talked about, Was it o J? Simpson?
Speaker 3: Was it not?
Speaker 1: O J?
Speaker 4: Simpson? Easton super fan Easton Allen found a moment sometime,
Speaker 4: super fan of lots of things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Found a moment in season two episode fifteen. Breaking up
Speaker 4: is really really hard to do. That does prove the
Speaker 4: number is thirty two. And this would have been taped
Speaker 4: this one from season two episode fifteen would have been
Speaker 4: taped like deep into the trial. Yes, and we have
Speaker 4: a picture of that's.
Speaker 5: The Old Man episode exactly else.
Speaker 4: So we have a picture of Okay, you can see
Speaker 4: there it is.
Speaker 3: That's really O J. Simpsons?
Speaker 4: Then we have been this picture over here, the thing
Speaker 4: that very clearly looks like a jersey, So yeah, it
Speaker 4: moved so that it could be featured.
Speaker 3: God was it an OJ reference?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: It also looks autographed? And that one does on the left,
Speaker 4: does it looks autographed?
Speaker 5: By the way, just scene now seen isolated?
Speaker 2: That uh, pinball brings back so many memories like, yeah,
Speaker 2: just that that helmet is that a real pinball game?
Speaker 4: Is that one I mentioned to you was worth like
Speaker 4: thirty seven hundred dollars or something?
Speaker 5: Wow? Just seeing it brings back so many memories.
Speaker 1: I wonder if what's worth more that or an autographed
Speaker 1: OJ jersey that.
Speaker 5: Was on the set of Boy Meets Were World throughout
Speaker 5: the nineties. Jeez.
Speaker 4: Anyway, I thought that was I thought that was pretty interesting.
Speaker 4: So I don't know when we we get six one
Speaker 4: seven four.
Speaker 3: That's what it means.
Speaker 4: Eventually you get it.
Speaker 2: Eventually we do have to try from someone from art
Speaker 2: department because we have not had any art department on
Speaker 2: our show, and we need and prime.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the.
Speaker 2: Art department is everybody? So yeah, we got to bring
Speaker 2: them all like set Deck, who was our product.
Speaker 3: We've talked about Mark Papson so much on this on
Speaker 3: this podcast.
Speaker 2: It seems like we have to get amazing.
Speaker 5: And then Hector, remember Hector the lst.
Speaker 3: Of course, he'd always wear the vest he had.
Speaker 1: I remember, he had everything on him all the time,
Speaker 1: to the point where we would go and we would
Speaker 1: test him, don't you remember, And we'd be like, all right,
Speaker 1: paper clips and you boom where we go white at
Speaker 1: boom bullets. He's like, oh here, yes, it's right here.
Speaker 1: Anything you needed he had there. I'm sure the fake
Speaker 1: prop ones, but it was anything you needed the guy
Speaker 1: had on him.
Speaker 3: It was inside.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, let's jump into our recap. We are here to
Speaker 4: talk about season four, episode eight, Dangerous Secret. It originally
Speaker 4: aired November eighth, nineteen ninety six. The synopsis Corey walks
Speaker 4: in on Sean to find that he has a girl
Speaker 4: staying at his trailer. When Shawn needs Corey to allow
Speaker 4: Claire to stay at his house, he is forced to
Speaker 4: tell Corey that Claire's father beats her. It was directed
Speaker 4: by Jeff McCracken. It was written by Jeff Sherman and
Speaker 4: guest starring just one person, Arianna Richards. As Claire Ferguson.
Speaker 5: She is the only guest star.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah.
Speaker 4: She is a legendary child actress who played Lex in
Speaker 4: Jurassic Park and the Lost World sequel and Mindy in Tremors.
Speaker 4: She has since retired from acting and she is a painter.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, what do you guys? What were your overall
Speaker 4: thoughts memory?
Speaker 5: Will loved this episode.
Speaker 2: I am positive this is probably his favorite. You probably
Speaker 2: probably all time best boy MIT's world. As far as Will, it's.
Speaker 4: Too serious, focused on a person we're never going to
Speaker 4: see again. I love a smile. What's the episode's whatever?
Speaker 4: The thoughts?
Speaker 3: Will? I thought it was amazing. I thought it was amazing.
Speaker 3: That was a great episode. I thought it was amazing.
Speaker 1: I thought this was this is absolutely what every quote
Speaker 1: unquote very special episode should be like, because it's a
Speaker 1: very special episode without it being a very special episode.
Speaker 1: She killed it. I thought the acting was great. I
Speaker 1: thought it was a great storyline.
Speaker 3: I loved it.
Speaker 2: I thought I thought you would hate it because it
Speaker 2: really isn't funny, Like there's almost no humor.
Speaker 1: It's not this one's not supposed to be. That's why
Speaker 1: it's the quote unquote very special episode. And when you
Speaker 1: come in with something like that, when it's when it
Speaker 1: is uh, the and this is a reference you guys
Speaker 1: won't get at all. But when it is the different
Speaker 1: strokes with the bike shop, it's not supposed to be
Speaker 1: funny totally.
Speaker 3: That's the that's the point. And so no, it was.
Speaker 2: And this was written by by Jeff Sherman and he
Speaker 2: was called special Jeff, yes, because it always do the
Speaker 2: special special episodes because he started with the Fugitive and
Speaker 2: and it's amazing. I mean I remember being called into
Speaker 2: Michael's office to be pitched this episode by Michael and
Speaker 2: Jeff because they were like, you want to.
Speaker 5: Do an episode about this? How do you feel about it?
Speaker 2: And like I remember just looking at Jeff and Jeff
Speaker 2: being like, yeah, I think this is really important that
Speaker 2: we do.
Speaker 1: That's nice that they brought you in and said we
Speaker 1: do a very special episode and not brought you in
Speaker 1: and said, hey, we're writing one where you're fat.
Speaker 4: Thanks right node the ones I had.
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure why they called me in exactly.
Speaker 2: I guess maybe because you.
Speaker 4: Were so cool. They wanted to make sure they had
Speaker 4: your approval, right, They wanted to make sure you were like,
Speaker 4: I'm on board with this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is interesting, like why and also why is it?
Speaker 2: It's it's interesting that it's Sean's relationship, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 3: Like, did you like it, Daniel?
Speaker 4: I did? I really liked it. Yeah, I thought it
Speaker 4: was I thought it was great. I thought, you know,
Speaker 4: as as special episodes tend to do, I definitely got emotional.
Speaker 4: I loved the scene with Betsy and Rusty. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: the scene with Betsy and Rusty and you and Ben
Speaker 4: at the end right episode.
Speaker 3: And Ben is great. Ben is great in this episode.
Speaker 1: He goes it goes from one thing where you think
Speaker 1: it's going to be about him just wanting sex or
Speaker 1: moving that forward to that then becoming a completely different Thinganelle.
Speaker 5: You're great in this episode.
Speaker 2: A freaky set of scenes you have, Yeah, and like
Speaker 2: to not come across as you know, like there's a
Speaker 2: version where Tapanga is like either being too.
Speaker 4: Mean to Cory or dismissive or.
Speaker 2: Like just like judge of him, and instead it's like
Speaker 2: it's a really it's a balancing act, and you guys
Speaker 2: do well in those great they're weird scenes and they're
Speaker 2: not as funny as I think they were.
Speaker 5: Intended to be in some ways, right, that's okay, like
Speaker 5: you know, it's it.
Speaker 4: I think there was. I think there was a balance
Speaker 4: there too. You also can't make light too much of
Speaker 4: those scenes because then you have a big joke machine
Speaker 4: about somebody pushing somebody else in a way where there
Speaker 4: maybe they're not comfortable, and you're like, well, now we're
Speaker 4: making light of something that it really is a very
Speaker 4: sensitive topic for teens. So I thought everything about this
Speaker 4: episode was handled very well. You're right that it isn't
Speaker 4: a joke machine episode. And I really liked writer. I
Speaker 4: thought you same thing for you. A bunch of tricky
Speaker 4: scenes where either you could have come across like a
Speaker 4: know it all you know, like I'm I'm a teenager
Speaker 4: who knows everything and everybody's got to listen to me,
Speaker 4: but really there was none of that. It felt very
Speaker 4: much like you also didn't know, and you were comfortable
Speaker 4: saying you didn't know. All you knew was that for
Speaker 4: right now, you needed to protect this girl and you
Speaker 4: were going to do it in this way and day,
Speaker 4: one day at a time. Which yeah, and.
Speaker 1: This to me I also thought was the quintessential episode
Speaker 1: of how you watch it one way when you're younger
Speaker 1: and another way when you're an adult.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because when you're that age, it is like, no,
Speaker 1: I can protect my friend.
Speaker 3: I can do.
Speaker 1: When you're an adult, you're in there yelling at the screen,
Speaker 1: call the police. This is too big a seekert for
Speaker 1: you to keep. But it's so different when you're watching
Speaker 1: it as a young person.
Speaker 2: But I also watching it now having you know, been
Speaker 2: through the whole rest of Boybet's world and heard the
Speaker 2: like potential that Chet was abusive to Sean or Di
Speaker 2: abusive to Verna at one point, like the fact that
Speaker 2: Sean is so keyed in on this girl and protecting
Speaker 2: her is really there's a subtext there, Yeah, that Sean's
Speaker 2: the person who knows like Corey has no clue, right,
Speaker 2: Corey's like do do do? Like normal kid in everyday life,
Speaker 2: and Sean's the one who has the radar, who's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I need to take care of this girl. And that
Speaker 2: is like that was something I don't remember talking about
Speaker 2: or like knowing, but you can feel it in Shawn's
Speaker 2: character that he is like, I need to save this person.
Speaker 2: I don't know how because I don't have the tools
Speaker 2: yet I'm not an adult, but I need to be
Speaker 2: there for this person in a way that is like
Speaker 2: kind of intense, right like, And in retrospect, it seems
Speaker 2: like the writers were already you know, whether Sean had
Speaker 2: been abused or not, he just is tapped into family
Speaker 2: situations that are not healthy and he is like he
Speaker 2: is the one who can sort of be there for this.
Speaker 2: I thought that was really cool and like that came
Speaker 2: across and yeah, got me very emotional.
Speaker 1: I also think the trailer park was using I got
Speaker 1: so much they say, the kids say, ish, I just
Speaker 1: say for the last that the Verna fishing for Verna,
Speaker 1: where you know, I felt the balance was off. It
Speaker 1: seemed like a weird Boy Meets World episode to me,
Speaker 1: where this used the trailer park but still felt grounded
Speaker 1: in Boy Mets World.
Speaker 3: We were still going back to the house.
Speaker 1: We were still still Corey's story, and that was It
Speaker 1: was really nice to see Corey kind of driving the
Speaker 1: story again this week as well.
Speaker 3: It was a good balance I thought all the way around.
Speaker 3: Very good episode.
Speaker 2: So somebody that I kept thinking about and like I
Speaker 2: want to talk about with you guys, and maybe now's
Speaker 2: not the time, but I.
Speaker 5: Don't know, Like, isn't it weird?
Speaker 2: This could never exist anymore, this episode, this type of
Speaker 2: episode doesn't happen anymore, Like we no longer you no
Speaker 2: longer have sitcoms that veer into this territory because everything
Speaker 2: has its lane now, Like you go to multi camera
Speaker 2: sitcoms for comedy. If they were to stray from that now,
Speaker 2: that would be like a betrayal of the audience, because
Speaker 2: audiences now pick their content, whereas back then it was
Speaker 2: just the format that was on on television at night,
Speaker 2: and so there was more power within the show itself
Speaker 2: to sort of stretch the form or test it or
Speaker 2: push it and to do things like this, like really
Speaker 2: take a risk. But back then sitcoms would do this often.
Speaker 2: They would be like, this week is gonna just be
Speaker 2: a completely different thing within the within the format. We're
Speaker 2: still gonna you know, we're not gonna break the rules
Speaker 2: of multi camera with an a live audience, but we're
Speaker 2: gonna like go somewhere really interesting. Like that doesn't happen anymore.
Speaker 2: And I don't know whether that's a good thing or
Speaker 2: a bad thing, but it's super interesting that this specifically,
Speaker 2: this type of episode would never exist.
Speaker 4: Nowadays, Yeah, we got bring it back, so we can
Speaker 4: do it. I agree, because I love it. I love
Speaker 4: it well.
Speaker 2: I think, well, I think what's what's lost in that
Speaker 2: is that there were definitely children who this spoke to
Speaker 2: so many families. You know, you just statistically there are abuse.
Speaker 2: There is abuse going on all the time in families,
Speaker 2: and so for kids to be watching a children's television
Speaker 2: show that's supposed to be fun and entertaining with their
Speaker 2: family and you know, potentially with their parents with their abuser,
Speaker 2: to be able to see a show that contextualizes that
Speaker 2: and says you go to the police, you reach out
Speaker 2: for help. That is so powerful. That is such an
Speaker 2: amazing thing that like.
Speaker 5: Couldn't happen nowadays, I don't think, because.
Speaker 3: I think it can happen again.
Speaker 1: What you have to do is by this point in
Speaker 1: season four, we'd earned our audience and we'd earn their trust.
Speaker 1: There are Yeah, by that point, they're going to come
Speaker 1: with us, and I think you can get that back again.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think when when you've got again,
Speaker 1: like if we can bring back the family sit calm
Speaker 1: once people come, then you can kind.
Speaker 3: Of do episodes like this again home Improvement did stuff
Speaker 3: like this.
Speaker 1: You know, Jonathan Taylor Thomas's did an episode where they
Speaker 1: thought he had had cancer, and I mean there was
Speaker 1: like all these things.
Speaker 3: I think the sitcom.
Speaker 5: Used to do this.
Speaker 2: He used to veer into these territories regularly because they could.
Speaker 2: But I just don't know if that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think we can do it.
Speaker 4: If you don't know, well, let's jump into our recap.
Speaker 4: We start in the trailer park. Corey has got bags
Speaker 4: full of groceries. As he kicks on Sean's trailer door,
Speaker 4: the light turns on. Seawan appears, You've got a cool
Speaker 4: like hieroglyphics tea on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just terrible hair.
Speaker 3: It's the middle of the night. It's supposed to be
Speaker 3: my hair.
Speaker 2: In this whole episode, I was like, what happened? Like
Speaker 2: I had gotten a haircut and I don't know. Laurie
Speaker 2: wasn't straightened in a something something off.
Speaker 4: Something something off was like whoa, I did not notice?
Speaker 4: So uh. Sean wants to know what Corey's doing there,
Speaker 4: and Corey says, my best friend's sick. Be his folks
Speaker 4: are out of town. I just thought i'd drop by
Speaker 4: and check on you. He pushes past Sean and sets
Speaker 4: his bags down in the kitchen, and I thought where where?
Speaker 4: And Verna out of town? Like are they on a cruise?
Speaker 4: Where they go?
Speaker 1: Did anybody else notice also that all of that stuff
Speaker 1: could have fit in one bag? Did you need to
Speaker 1: bring all three bags that had at the bottom all.
Speaker 4: So we could just charge right past him?
Speaker 2: So what I remember about filming this episode is the
Speaker 2: weirdness of the exterior trailer park being a separate set
Speaker 2: than the interior trailer because you had to do two
Speaker 2: different sets, so we had like around like back by
Speaker 2: Craft Service, we had built the exterior trailer park which
Speaker 2: has like just a little glimpse into this interior SETI
Speaker 2: is not actually the trailer And I just remember it
Speaker 2: being so weird because then we would shoot like outside
Speaker 2: and then have to go to another set on the
Speaker 2: other set.
Speaker 4: Of repo reposition, all the cameras, everything down. So he
Speaker 4: ended up shooting that little and that little entrance fifteen
Speaker 4: times exactly and then going into the real scene.
Speaker 5: That's like literally all I remember about filming this episode.
Speaker 3: It was like in my mind, I was like, why
Speaker 3: were well place?
Speaker 4: Because then later Corey leaves and then comes out of
Speaker 4: those right right, And of course we probably shot it
Speaker 4: where all the exteriors were shot back to back to
Speaker 4: avoid full repos down across stage.
Speaker 3: That was done on Wednesday.
Speaker 4: These little mini mini scenes.
Speaker 3: I don't think we shot this in front of a
Speaker 3: live audience.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think so. Episode doesn't feel like an audience
Speaker 4: episode because then again, the scenes that would have been
Speaker 4: in front of the audience were like the bedroom scenes.
Speaker 3: Which the whole way, yeah, you wouldn't want to do
Speaker 3: the bedroom. I think they pulled the audience.
Speaker 5: I don't think. I think so.
Speaker 4: It makes sense, definitely, probably we probably camera blocked this
Speaker 4: entire week. So Corey has brought over a few little
Speaker 4: sundryes for him. What a thoughtful friend. Sean jokingly asks,
Speaker 4: you didn't bring me any flowers, and then Corey pulls
Speaker 4: out a mini bouquet. I did. I just didn't know
Speaker 4: if it was appropriate. Sean tells him it's not. Then
Speaker 4: he fake coughs and says he's really tired and he
Speaker 4: needs to do to sleep.
Speaker 2: The beginning of the like col Sean bromance, like the
Speaker 2: real like it is right, like because we haven't self
Speaker 2: consciously made jokes like I didn't think it was appropriate,
Speaker 2: but I did do it.
Speaker 3: Like have we done that yet?
Speaker 5: Well, There's and Sean are acting like lovers but.
Speaker 4: Right, but they're like not sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: In some ways, I feel like this is maybe the
Speaker 4: first one that's really on the nose, like I brought
Speaker 4: you flowers but in the But with that said, I
Speaker 4: also feel like that's kind of like one of the
Speaker 4: things I remember that I loved so much is when
Speaker 4: you were telling Corey to hold your hand the way
Speaker 4: he was holding to Pega's hand the cans and then
Speaker 4: somebody walks in and you guys aren't embarrassed that you
Speaker 4: guys have been so in some sense, this feels like
Speaker 4: the very first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the first like self conscious, like we're
Speaker 2: kind of treating each other like like we're in a relationship.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, this is.
Speaker 2: And this is going to be like an ongoing joke
Speaker 2: like this the next three years.
Speaker 4: This love it as to Pengo would say, my whole life.
Speaker 4: So he fake coughs and says he's really tired, he
Speaker 4: needs to get some sleep. He tells Corey he's contagious.
Speaker 4: So Corey gets ready to leave. I'll just plug in
Speaker 4: the humidifire, and be on my way. As Corey makes
Speaker 4: his way to Shawn's bedroom, a girl walks out into
Speaker 4: the living room, where wearing Sean's robe. Corey looks at
Speaker 4: her Claire, then turns to his best friend Sean. I'm
Speaker 4: assuming Claire is a school friend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've said they've that.
Speaker 1: By the way that Corey says her name, yeah, they do.
Speaker 1: With that one way he says that they've set up. Okay,
Speaker 1: she's from school, they know her.
Speaker 3: It's simple.
Speaker 4: This is nitpicky, but I kind of wish somewhere that
Speaker 4: could have been mentioned because I assume this is someone
Speaker 4: because we've never seen her, the audience has never seen
Speaker 4: her at school before. I assumed this was another girl
Speaker 4: who lives in the trailer park. And then later when
Speaker 4: she comes out of the trailer and they're having this conversation,
Speaker 4: you're not going to tell anybody, I was like, you're
Speaker 4: hiding her in.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 4: I didn't know so I and it didn't bother me
Speaker 4: so much that it changed the way I felt about
Speaker 4: the episode. But I kind of just wish it would
Speaker 4: have been casually mentioned somewhere that, like we see her
Speaker 4: in the halls, and she goes to school with us.
Speaker 4: I don't know, it was just something later I'm talking to.
Speaker 3: Her, Yeah later, But yes, you're an established.
Speaker 5: Without it being a shock that there was a girl
Speaker 5: in the trailer room.
Speaker 1: Here's here's the other thing though, which is which is
Speaker 1: something that was interesting. So in the last couple of
Speaker 1: trailer scenes, there's clearly a rollaway bed that is tucked
Speaker 1: up against the wall, which is Sean's bed. So you
Speaker 1: figure they have the parents have a bedroom, and then
Speaker 1: Sean sleeps on the roll away probably there in the living.
Speaker 3: Room where they have set up.
Speaker 1: Never noticed that, ye roll away bed right there when
Speaker 1: when he walks in. So if she's walking out of
Speaker 1: the bedroom and it's night and the rollaway bed isn't
Speaker 1: set up, then they are in fact sharing a bed.
Speaker 3: She It could be completely platonic.
Speaker 5: But I just assumed there were two bedrooms back there
Speaker 5: in the room and the parents room.
Speaker 1: I think they've set it up where there's only one,
Speaker 1: because again, the rollaway bed was pretty prominent in the
Speaker 1: last couple episodes.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I didn't even notice.
Speaker 2: Interesting either way, this is a cool story point, Like,
Speaker 2: I love this idea. It seems a little early like, right,
Speaker 2: we're fifteen, we're fifteen, which also.
Speaker 5: Which is the point, I guess, but like.
Speaker 4: But also, how are we fifteen and in eleventh grade?
Speaker 3: So we were your juniors? Yeah you should be six.
Speaker 4: They had a whole what grade are you in? Eleven?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: How are we fifteen and in eleventh grade? I was
Speaker 4: seventeen in eleven?
Speaker 3: See a sure house, right, yeah, it's whatever it has.
Speaker 1: But you're right, Well, the other thing you put people
Speaker 1: don't know is everyone on Boy Meets World was held.
Speaker 3: Back for being stupid.
Speaker 4: We're not even the really smartest telling.
Speaker 3: You that's Sagittarius is constant.
Speaker 4: A writer, I like this as a point too as well,
Speaker 4: then you too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's it just feels like even in the
Speaker 2: whole storyline with Corey with you felt like, God, we're
Speaker 2: young to be even having But you know, I guess
Speaker 2: that's realistic. That's pretty I think it is pretty realistic. Well,
Speaker 2: especially then because yeah, that no, then it was.
Speaker 4: The topic of conversation about are you are you thinking
Speaker 4: about it? Have you done it? Uh huh? That is
Speaker 4: probably basically exactly where Corey is. Corey is probably the
Speaker 4: quote unquote norm for that time has a girlfriend's been
Speaker 4: making out with her, is starting to think about what's
Speaker 4: the next step. And and for Sean, the whole point
Speaker 4: of it is that Corey is like, what, You're already there?
Speaker 4: How are you there? And I'm way back here. So
Speaker 4: it kind of is the point is that, Wow, that's early,
Speaker 4: but I'm really late apparently, you know, for Corey, I
Speaker 4: need to move on.
Speaker 3: Since we're discussing this now.
Speaker 1: I was going to bring this up in the next scene,
Speaker 1: but I have an honest question, and I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to make light.
Speaker 3: I'm honestly asking.
Speaker 1: Do you think by the time Corey and Tipanga got
Speaker 1: married they had only kissed.
Speaker 5: Get as sick as you can get without actually dying.
Speaker 1: That's you, right, right, But that's but he's you know,
Speaker 1: he's got to let me touch something and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and that I mean, do you think they literally went
Speaker 1: from kissing to married nothing in between?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I do know that way later, when
Speaker 4: when we're like in the college episodes, because I've seen
Speaker 4: I've seen the meme of it, there is a scene
Speaker 4: where uh, I say something like I showed him my butt, Okay,
Speaker 4: so that would that would also imply something happened, so
Speaker 4: that would or just truly that I showed him my butt,
Speaker 4: in which case he has never seen my butt, right,
Speaker 4: which I then would assume means we just went from
Speaker 4: kissing kissing marriage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, again, no no judgment, just just curious if
Speaker 1: that's how if that's how they were playing it, like
Speaker 1: they had never fooled around.
Speaker 3: They just kissed and then they got married.
Speaker 4: Yep, I don't. I really don't know. I had not
Speaker 4: thought about it too much, but.
Speaker 3: That's all I think about.
Speaker 5: It's all I was gonna say.
Speaker 2: For some reason, I get very uncomfortable thinking about teenage
Speaker 2: sex lives, even though they were like kind of ours
Speaker 2: in a weird way.
Speaker 4: It's so bizarre we had them, yeah, or we didn't
Speaker 4: have them, depending on who were.
Speaker 3: As a late I totally I was a late bloomer.
Speaker 3: I totally totally get that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I really do. I completely was. But I
Speaker 1: was just curious if they went from extreme to extreme.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I mean we did get married at eighteen.
Speaker 2: So yeah, right, you know you have to wait exactly wait,
Speaker 2: and it was never.
Speaker 3: Explicitly religious, right, Like it was never like a we're waiting.
Speaker 4: For I didn't even say, the universe wants me to wait.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 4: It was just my my decision. Yeah, yeah, I don't
Speaker 4: know it was. It was just as she was waiting
Speaker 4: for marriage.
Speaker 3: I hear Michael Jacobs.
Speaker 1: I hear Michael Jacobs read after you said, the universe
Speaker 1: want of Ben going, but the universe wants us naked
Speaker 1: like something like that.
Speaker 3: I don't know why.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So then we cut to commercial with some surf rock strings,
Speaker 4: and then we're back at the trailer park. Corey is
Speaker 4: quickly leaving, and Shawn chases after him. He doesn't have
Speaker 4: to leave. Corey admits, like, I'm not embarrassed enough me
Speaker 4: and my mentha lateam. If he had plans like this,
Speaker 4: he says, Sean could have just told him. Sean asks
Speaker 4: Corey to just trust him about this. Then Claire walks
Speaker 4: out and begs Corey, you won't tell anyone I was here,
Speaker 4: will you? He admits, normally I would have told Sean,
Speaker 4: but he already knows unless he's just a complete idiot.
Speaker 4: And then we got a nice little laugh from writer
Speaker 4: Slash Sean. Corey takes off just as Sean puts his
Speaker 4: arm around Claire and assures her she can trust Corey,
Speaker 4: I like this too. This, I like this element of it,
Speaker 4: which is like, this is the you're good with this person.
Speaker 4: You don't have to worry about this. This person is trustworthy.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: And then we're into Chubbies. Sean and Corey are studying
Speaker 4: a rare occasion on this show, but Corey is furiously
Speaker 4: tapping his pencil, staring at Sean accusingly. Sean gets the hint. Yes,
Speaker 4: Corey blurts out, We've always told each other everything, and
Speaker 4: Sean quickly cuts him off, telling him to let it go.
Speaker 4: Corey emphasizes, you and a girl spent the night together
Speaker 4: without me. Sean tells him this isn't something you just
Speaker 4: talk about. Corey continues, Is it because you've moved up
Speaker 4: to a higher level of intimacy with women and I'm
Speaker 4: still walking around with my address in my pocket? Sean says,
Speaker 4: it is a tough address. Three to two one.
Speaker 1: Wrote that down three two one, okay, two one something
Speaker 1: something somewhere Vennsylvania.
Speaker 4: Where everyone's either from the south, from New York.
Speaker 3: From New York, or from down South. Everybody's side yard
Speaker 3: is a backyard. We're at three two one something.
Speaker 4: Sean tells him not to do anything just because of him.
Speaker 4: But Corey emphasizes me and to Panga have been going
Speaker 4: out since like the day I was born, and all
Speaker 4: we've done is.
Speaker 5: Kiss already that myth maker.
Speaker 4: First reading revision probably or one of them. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: I think he tells Sean it's time they take it
Speaker 4: to the next step, and Sean hesitantly says okay, and
Speaker 4: then Corey awkwardly asks, so what is the next step?
Speaker 4: And then we're in the Matthews living room. Corey is
Speaker 4: practicing for his big night with Tapanga, carrying a cheese tray.
Speaker 2: I love that he's dressed like a forty five year
Speaker 2: old man too, with a Boardard's sake, the flowers.
Speaker 1: I know, but this is also still my favorite Corey.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, nervous but trying. It's like a false confidence
Speaker 1: kind of Corey talking to himself as he's coming down
Speaker 1: the stairs, and it's still my favorite Cory.
Speaker 4: I also love that this feels very much like a
Speaker 4: season one episode in the sense that Corey feels like
Speaker 4: everyone else understands the world. How does everyone what to do?
Speaker 4: I am just floundering, Like I love that. I think
Speaker 4: it's so good. So by the way, these are the
Speaker 4: same flowers he brought for Sean. They're in a different vase,
Speaker 4: but I did want to point out they are. I
Speaker 4: think they're yellow Dahlia's.
Speaker 3: But he's regifting's.
Speaker 4: They're either the exact same or he just bought quite a.
Speaker 3: Buquet.
Speaker 5: He did not know the secret.
Speaker 1: Of the way.
Speaker 4: He didn't know. No, I didn't understand.
Speaker 2: No. I love that he's like practicing the coat thing,
Speaker 2: like could take your coat or whatever. And then that
Speaker 2: pays off when he takes exactly Claire's coat, and I
Speaker 2: was like, such a.
Speaker 4: Jeff Sherman touch little ribbon, you know. So yep, Corey
Speaker 4: is saying to himself, Hello, may I take your coat?
Speaker 4: You like my outfit? What these old things? Then the
Speaker 4: doorbell rings and Corey continues to practice his dialogue. He
Speaker 4: opens the door to Tapanga and recites his opening line, Hello,
Speaker 4: may I take your coat now?
Speaker 5: Danielle?
Speaker 2: You seemed so tiny when that door opened. Did you
Speaker 2: strike you, guys, how small you are? It was just
Speaker 2: your whole existence. It was like you are so like tiny,
Speaker 2: You're thin and little, Like my god, you.
Speaker 4: Are small this whole time. So I'm I'm now only
Speaker 4: still five to one, and I don't think I was
Speaker 4: too much shorter, but I may have only been five
Speaker 4: feet Like, that's a that's a.
Speaker 3: Tiny Did you weigh seventy I weighed.
Speaker 4: I weighed nine either ninety six or ninety eight pounds.
Speaker 3: Geez, you just.
Speaker 2: Look like shot the door open, and your face looks
Speaker 2: very much you you actually look in this episode for
Speaker 2: one of the first time you you really look. And
Speaker 2: also the faces you make to Corey. I kept being like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's Dan Danielle making me sort of like kind of
Speaker 2: knowing mature. It was like it was cool, but like
Speaker 2: at this moment, I was like, you are a child. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess maybe because it's set up in this like
Speaker 2: sexual date thing. And then to open the door, I
Speaker 2: was like, no.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 4: Doesn't help that they put me in like a baby
Speaker 4: pink car. Again, like they.
Speaker 3: Dressed her very probably smart.
Speaker 4: It was the way to Penga has been dressing, has
Speaker 4: been dressing with tied up shirts and skin to little pants,
Speaker 4: and then she comes over here and she's got like
Speaker 4: a baby pink cardigan on.
Speaker 3: Well, you're undercover from your seventies' spy team, so.
Speaker 4: Exactly right to know that's exactly right, So she points
Speaker 4: out that she's not wearing a coat, probably because I
Speaker 4: can't act in a jacket and without hesitation, and robotically
Speaker 4: he responds, ah, you like my out. She asks if
Speaker 4: he's okay, and he finishes his dialogue in despair. What
Speaker 4: these old things? So cute? Asks Cory what he wants
Speaker 4: to do tonight, and he says they can go see
Speaker 4: a movie, grab a burger, or just go up to
Speaker 4: his room and just you know. She asks what they
Speaker 4: do in his room, and he wonders if she's seen
Speaker 4: his new CD changer. She reminds him she was there
Speaker 4: when he bought it.
Speaker 5: He explains, all right, let's let's talk about CD changers.
Speaker 5: Can we just have a it's a CD changer? Do
Speaker 5: you remember your CD?
Speaker 3: Of course?
Speaker 5: This was the biggest thing that I bought when I
Speaker 5: was a teenager. Okay, go go go.
Speaker 4: You tell when I booked my first ever job that commercial.
Speaker 7: Huh.
Speaker 4: My mom said, I'm gonna let you take five hundred
Speaker 4: dollars and by anything you want. And I spent four
Speaker 4: hundred and ninety nine dollars on a five disc.
Speaker 3: The table ones, yes, and it's spent, you know, and it's.
Speaker 4: Spun, put it on and they spin around and it
Speaker 4: had knobs to adjust. Oh, it was glorious.
Speaker 2: Okay, So then I remember in the car will did
Speaker 2: you have one in your car too? Like the mask
Speaker 2: ten disc magazine that went in the in the trunks
Speaker 2: you had to loaded before you went on a road trip.
Speaker 3: You loaded with the tents and road trucks.
Speaker 4: You loaded that before you went to CVS.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 3: Sure, But then.
Speaker 5: But then I went big.
Speaker 2: When I was seventeen and I had my own apartment,
Speaker 2: I got a hundred CD changer.
Speaker 5: Do you guys remember these?
Speaker 3: It was the norm? Was it a den on? It
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, it was dead. It was.
Speaker 4: It was a giant interchange of CD. Again.
Speaker 3: Oh, I kept the thing until two thousand and three,
Speaker 3: two thousand and four.
Speaker 5: This was just it was a jukebox. I had a
Speaker 5: jukebox at my house. It was the greatest.
Speaker 2: Oh, unless somebody left on a CD in there that
Speaker 2: I didn't want in there, and then like I'd hit
Speaker 2: random and uh, some awful song would come on you.
Speaker 4: I had one of those big CD books that you
Speaker 4: kept in the car.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still have them.
Speaker 4: Still have a you had case logic? Of course you
Speaker 4: have the one that attached to your visor. You could
Speaker 4: pull down the visor because you know safe you want
Speaker 4: to pull down your visor and just slide a disco
Speaker 4: out and then be able to put it in there.
Speaker 4: But then you also have to have the big one
Speaker 4: where everybody can flip through it and pick their music seedyoud.
Speaker 5: You alphabetize it.
Speaker 3: Rider.
Speaker 1: Do you remember in my car, Daniel? You probably had
Speaker 1: never been what we're never in my car, but I
Speaker 1: don't right, it was I had the the the deck
Speaker 1: was a CD player, but I could pull it out
Speaker 1: and put in the tape player. You had to pull
Speaker 1: full stereo. So you pull out a stereo and put
Speaker 1: it under your seat and put in like the tape
Speaker 1: stereo and lock it into place. Crazy stuff. These kids
Speaker 1: do not know how good they happen.
Speaker 2: But by the way, this is not a CD changer
Speaker 2: in this episode, it's a boombox with.
Speaker 5: A one CD player. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3: It doesn't it doesn't change.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: In the next scene, he ejects a tray which is
Speaker 2: a single tray CD player. Really, yes, we our show
Speaker 2: could not afford a CD changer. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4: This is embarrassing.
Speaker 5: It's so embarrassing.
Speaker 4: I didn't even notice it, but I'm embarrassed. I'm posthumously embarrassed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should face it was either a turntable or
Speaker 2: a magazine that eats like a slide in, and neither
Speaker 2: one is true in this case. Our profit department, our
Speaker 2: proft department are We're amazing most of the time. But
Speaker 2: this they really let us.
Speaker 4: This was a fail.
Speaker 6: This was.
Speaker 4: He explains. The CD player is set up now, so
Speaker 4: they can go see it in his room. She says sure,
Speaker 4: and she starts to make her way upstairs, and quietly
Speaker 4: he quietly cheers himself on, but he walks back toward
Speaker 4: the couch. She asks if he's coming, and he snaps
Speaker 4: back to reality. Oh yeah, me. And then we're into
Speaker 4: the boy's bedroom. Welcome back, this comfortable set.
Speaker 5: It's nice too.
Speaker 1: It's like he was having a woman upstairs, so make
Speaker 1: sure it's all clean. And you don't ever see the
Speaker 1: other bed. Do you just see Corey's bed this time?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Right, yeah.
Speaker 4: Tepega walks into a room full of lit candles and
Speaker 4: joke and Uh jokingly asks if Corey's having a seance.
Speaker 4: He stutter, I love candles. The room is always like this.
Speaker 4: Then she notices a book on Corey's bed, loves Sonnets
Speaker 4: by Shelley. Corey gets nervous again. He loves poetry and
Speaker 4: her use of romantic imagery is very sensual. Tapega tells
Speaker 4: him that Shelley was a guy, and he drops the book, saying, yesh,
Speaker 4: because in the nineties it was embarrassing to like poetry
Speaker 4: by men.
Speaker 2: Is that like, Yeah, can't be erotic if it's an
Speaker 2: if a guy wrote it, it can't be erotic.
Speaker 4: Yes, But also if men write poetry, it's just in
Speaker 4: the nineties, that's no. She walks over to the CD
Speaker 4: player not a changer A and he she asks if
Speaker 4: they're going to play anything. He awkwardly explains that for
Speaker 4: the best sound, she'll need to sit over there. He
Speaker 4: motions to the bed. It has nothing to do with
Speaker 4: the bed. It just has to do with the placement
Speaker 4: of the speakers, in the placement of you on the
Speaker 4: She finishes bed. She sits and he joins her, and
Speaker 4: then turns on the CD player. It begins to play
Speaker 4: a children's song, something that someone much younger than Morgan
Speaker 4: would listen to. By the way, did she like ten
Speaker 4: at this point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it could still be left over.
Speaker 3: I could see that left He just he just bought
Speaker 3: the new CD changer.
Speaker 5: Right, so she would have had to have put it in.
Speaker 3: Specifically, have had to go on and say, like just
Speaker 3: trying forcing her.
Speaker 5: It's the parents.
Speaker 1: We don't know the dark side of Amy and Allen.
Speaker 1: They're just keeping their five.
Speaker 3: You're always gonna listen to Barney again.
Speaker 4: Good to Panga smiles. She used to listen to the
Speaker 4: song when she was a kid. Corey quickly gets up
Speaker 4: and ejects the CD, then throws it out the window.
Speaker 4: I was really hoping for a phoenix. I wanted him
Speaker 4: to be busy burying bodies in the backyard. But he
Speaker 4: didn't say anything, so he must be eating.
Speaker 2: It does come back, though, it does also.
Speaker 4: Uh, this is where I noticed a hat hanging on
Speaker 4: the wall in the back near the bed. It's a
Speaker 4: logo athletic Philadelphia Eagles splash snapback hat. It's a very
Speaker 4: specific looking at all. It is a very sought after
Speaker 4: vintage hat.
Speaker 5: More sought after than the OJ Simpson jersey sign jersey.
Speaker 4: But I will tell you that hat is available on
Speaker 4: eBay right now for four hundred dollars. Oh wow, so
Speaker 4: very very serious.
Speaker 2: It's you could have gotten a CD changer or that
Speaker 2: hat or that hat.
Speaker 4: What the time, that hat was probably only like twenty
Speaker 4: five dollars. I had that fan smarter investment, totally totally.
Speaker 4: He puts in a different CD and classical music starts
Speaker 4: to play. Topanga asks, that's really pretty. What is it?
Speaker 4: Corey admits, I don't know. It came with my mom's Volvo. Again,
Speaker 4: just lout great, best and then Topenga starts to kiss him.
Speaker 4: It's getting pretty hot and heavy, and then a man's
Speaker 4: voice cuts in, Welcome to the safe and Secure world
Speaker 4: Volvo ownership brilliant. He starts to describe the Volvo safety features,
Speaker 4: and Corey tells Topanga we should get that car, before
Speaker 4: swiftly changing the CD and then romantic music starts to
Speaker 4: play and the two goat to making out. A few
Speaker 4: seconds later, Corey fumbles around with the back of Tapanga's shirt.
Speaker 1: She said, yeah, this is where I was like, whoa, yeah,
Speaker 1: the shirt, it's I mean, yeah, do you remember shooting
Speaker 1: this at all a little bit?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was.
Speaker 1: By this point, you and Ben are totally comfortable that
Speaker 1: you've worked it all out, totally.
Speaker 4: Comfortable with each other. I don't remember there being any awkwardness.
Speaker 4: I also remember that I'm wearing like a tank top
Speaker 4: under my sweater, and that sweat that tank top was
Speaker 4: like tucked into my pants. So even if Ben, if
Speaker 4: the sweater got lifted too much, I don't even think
Speaker 4: you would have seen skin like I remember it being
Speaker 4: it feeling very very PG like I didn't and Ben
Speaker 4: and I were very comfortable with each other. And I
Speaker 4: also know I'm no ninety nine point nine to nine
Speaker 4: percent sure there was no audience, so there was no
Speaker 4: awkward feeling of like there being a bunch of people
Speaker 4: or you know, it was. It felt very safe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, risk gay though, risk gay for boy meets wor
Speaker 1: Old on a Friday night.
Speaker 4: I know, look at us, She stops him Corey. He responds, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's me. She continues, What exactly did you think was
Speaker 4: going to happen here? Corey lies, Oh, you're talking to
Speaker 4: me like I planned this. She points out the bowl
Speaker 4: of grapes at the end of the bed. Defeated, he admits,
Speaker 4: I'm trying so hard here. She says to do what
Speaker 4: Corey says, Well, I just think we're old enough. Tapanga says, again,
Speaker 4: old enough to do what? And then he says, I
Speaker 4: think we're old enough like I just think we're old
Speaker 4: enough like Sean. And that's when I love that. Topanga
Speaker 4: gets a little bit more upset, and she says, what
Speaker 4: does Sean have to do with this?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: He then blurts out that Sean had a girl over
Speaker 4: last night that he hardly knows, but Corey and Tapanga
Speaker 4: have known each other their whole lives and that they
Speaker 4: love each other. He said we should be at like
Speaker 4: Ninth Base by now. Taffanga is visibly upset. Why so
Speaker 4: you can keep up with your buddy, Corey tells her no,
Speaker 4: he just thinks his buddy had a good idea. This time,
Speaker 4: Tapanga is bummed and she thinks she should probably go.
Speaker 4: Now Corey says, no, you stay, I'll go. I'm so pathetic.
Speaker 4: I'm throwing myself out, leaving Tapanga alone with the grapes.
Speaker 3: Good scene. I don't know what Ninth Base is.
Speaker 4: I don't either. He doesn't either. That's another thing. It
Speaker 4: doesn't exist. He doesn't know the basis right, it doesn't
Speaker 4: even I mean he had to ask Sean what comes after? Kissing.
Speaker 4: What do you do next? What's that? So he really
Speaker 4: doesn't know. And then we're at John Adams High. Sean
Speaker 4: and Claire are talking on a nearby bench as Topanga
Speaker 4: walks through the halls and greets Feoenie. Miss Laurence. Corey
Speaker 4: is slumped against his locker and says hi to Topanga
Speaker 4: and gets a very cold Corey. In response, Corey's sidebars
Speaker 4: with mister Phoene. She's obviously very busy, what with her
Speaker 4: classes and having to go to them. Phoene agrees, and
Speaker 4: eventually Corey shouts, are you blind in the eyes? Man?
Speaker 4: She hates me?
Speaker 5: It's so funny.
Speaker 4: Poenie admits I can see there's trouble in Paradise. Then
Speaker 4: he pulls something out of his pocket. On a happier note,
Speaker 4: this compact disc sailed into my living room last night
Speaker 4: and landed on.
Speaker 1: My wall, credenza, my wall.
Speaker 4: Costume jewels, Oh the best. Corey apologizes he was aiming
Speaker 4: for the moon. Feenie emphasizes he doesn't normally get involved
Speaker 4: in the personal affairs of his students, but the two
Speaker 4: of them are just so cute together.
Speaker 1: I thought this was going to be They were going
Speaker 1: to take it like a joke where FENI was going
Speaker 1: to say something like, oh, the two of you are
Speaker 1: so cute together, but.
Speaker 3: That's the thing he plays. It's so real.
Speaker 1: It's amazing, like, you guys are so cute together, and
Speaker 1: I just really wanted to work. And it's the thing
Speaker 1: that went through my head was Foeni knows everything, so
Speaker 1: he already knows they're going to end up together and
Speaker 1: get married. Yeah, he he knows everything, and he's like,
Speaker 1: you're so cute to get it was so such an
Speaker 1: I thought Bill was going to go one way with it.
Speaker 1: He went somewhere completely different and it was awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very The lighter side of Phoenie was great.
Speaker 4: So Phoene asks what can I do? Corey says nothing.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna come to her and she's not gonna
Speaker 4: come to me. Phoenie advises him that regardless of hurt feelings,
Speaker 4: he should keep the lines of communication open. Corey admits
Speaker 4: Phoenie does seem to know everything, so he'll try his
Speaker 4: little communication thing. Corey then walks over to Topanga and says,
Speaker 4: if what I did was out of line, I think
Speaker 4: we should be able to communicate. Tapega simply responds, I
Speaker 4: don't know what to say to you. Out of ideas,
Speaker 4: Corey whispers to Feenie, what else you got to which
Speaker 4: Phoene shakes his head in confusion and walks away. Tapega
Speaker 4: slams her locker shet and also walks away. Corey admits,
Speaker 4: on the upside, I can make everyone shake their head.
Speaker 5: It's just nice.
Speaker 4: Sean walks over, prompting and angry Corey. I hope you're happy.
Speaker 4: Sean's confused. I'm blown it with Tapanga and it's on
Speaker 4: your head. I made a move on Topanga and she
Speaker 4: got upset, like we're not supposed to be doing that,
Speaker 4: even though I told her that you had a girl
Speaker 4: spend the night at your place. Sean cuts him off.
Speaker 4: You told her about Claire.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Before before that, writer, you have a great beat the
Speaker 1: What and then yes, yes, let me get you know,
Speaker 1: let me get this, let me get let me get
Speaker 1: this straight what. That was a very good comedy beat.
Speaker 2: The which is also this scene is exactly when angry
Speaker 2: Corey is great, because it's like it's like he's self
Speaker 2: righteous in the worst possible way. We've seen why he
Speaker 2: feels this way. We were with him in that. We're like,
Speaker 2: oh man, everybody's upset with Corey. We don't, and yet
Speaker 2: he's made a mistake. He's put it, he's put himself
Speaker 2: in this position, so we're like rooting for him to
Speaker 2: get himself out. It's it's just great. And then like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that fact that Sean has, like that Corey has lived
Speaker 2: an entire television show without Sean knowing what is going on.
Speaker 4: Sean's like completely immediately you're talking about and next week,
Speaker 4: the following week, the trophy for school spirit is being awarded.
Speaker 1: There was a blood drive. Next week, somebody's getting a
Speaker 1: triple fat browy.
Speaker 3: So yeah, of.
Speaker 4: Course, of course, good good to know. So Corey sheepishly
Speaker 4: says yes, and Sean is furious. He promised he wouldn't
Speaker 4: tell anyone. Corey tells him it's just a panga, but
Speaker 4: Sean says, we're talking about trust, but you don't know
Speaker 4: what that means, do you. Also, Corey didn't mention Claire's
Speaker 4: name to tapanga.
Speaker 1: There's a lot that's weird with this, and it's all real,
Speaker 1: but it's weird.
Speaker 4: I feel like it's important.
Speaker 1: That's an important, no distinction, it is, but it's also
Speaker 1: your best friend doesn't tell you, doesn't have to say
Speaker 1: what's going on.
Speaker 3: He doesn't have to specifically say she's getting.
Speaker 1: Beaten by her father. But Corey, there's nothing going on
Speaker 1: between the two of us. I promise you. She just
Speaker 1: needs to get out of her house for a little while.
Speaker 1: Something like that is all a best friend needs to
Speaker 1: say to his buddy to make sure that this doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: And then after.
Speaker 1: That, your buddies also got to know that it's kind
Speaker 1: of marriage. The way they've now revised Corey in Topanga,
Speaker 1: where if you tell Corey something you know, Topanga is
Speaker 1: gonna find out no, yes, yes.
Speaker 3: It's Corey.
Speaker 1: They've now set that up where it's like, if you
Speaker 1: tell somebody something your girlfriend, your longtime girlfriend's gonna ask
Speaker 1: Corey to trust you know, yea, without saying what it was.
Speaker 5: But I don't think I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Sean's holy right either. I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: like I can understand everybody's issues.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. No, I get it too, I
Speaker 1: get That's why I'm saying. It's very strange. You're getting
Speaker 1: everybody miscommunicated, is what I'm saying and yeah, it was
Speaker 1: very real betrayed, Like I mean, him deciding that it's
Speaker 1: that he's.
Speaker 3: Like deserves to go farther with Topanga because.
Speaker 1: Like Sean led him to believe, all he had to
Speaker 1: say was nothing happened. Sean did not dissuade him from
Speaker 1: the fact that he had slept with her, so had
Speaker 1: he just said, like they even have a conversation where
Speaker 1: he's like, don't do anything because of me. If he
Speaker 1: just added Corey, it's not what you think. Nothing happened
Speaker 1: between two of us. That's it's all you need, not
Speaker 1: anything specific, then none of this happens.
Speaker 4: I think Sean has too many Sean is really not
Speaker 4: even paying attention to the fact that that's too much
Speaker 4: what Corey is taking from it. I think he's so
Speaker 4: preoccupied with just like I have this big secret I need.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say any I literally just want
Speaker 4: to drop the conversation because too much talking about Claire
Speaker 4: feels like a light shined on the situation that he
Speaker 4: doesn't want right, but I do think it would. It's
Speaker 4: kind of important for Corey to mention like, oh, I
Speaker 4: didn't say her name.
Speaker 1: I didn't say her name. Yeah, she didn't. It didn't
Speaker 1: come up like that. It yeah, because the whole point is.
Speaker 4: That everybody to be protected from her parents knowing where
Speaker 4: she is, and if just randomly there being a girl
Speaker 4: who spent the night at Shawn's house is a little
Speaker 4: It feels like that could have helped Sean feel a
Speaker 4: little more comfortable. He could still have been upset. Like
Speaker 4: you said, you wouldn't say anything. Don't say anything. You
Speaker 4: could still be upset. But it is kind of an
Speaker 4: important thing that like, I didn't say her name. I
Speaker 4: didn't say her name. Nobody knows, nobody knows what happened. Yeah, Sean,
Speaker 4: a girl over, That's all I said. Yeah, So yeah, No, again,
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I dislike it. It's just it was a
Speaker 4: lot of people. Had they said one more little thing,
Speaker 4: everything would.
Speaker 2: That's always always like slight misunderstanding, the snowball change into everything.
Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 4: Then we're in the Matthew's kitchen. The family minus Morgan
Speaker 4: is sitting at the dining table. When Corey comes downstairs.
Speaker 4: Amy innocently asks, it's Friday night, aren't you going out
Speaker 4: with Tepanga? Corey avoids the question, you know what this
Speaker 4: family hasn't done in a long time. Sing Alan is confused,
Speaker 4: how about Sean? Corey suggests they singing around. He sways
Speaker 4: his parents back and forth and seeing Michael row your
Speaker 4: boat ashore, and then points to Amy. Just the mommies.
Speaker 4: Alan asks what happened between him and Sean. Corey responds, okay,
Speaker 4: just the friendless, dateless, lonely boys. Cory starts singing, and
Speaker 4: Eric happilly joins, all right, here we go, that's so funny.
Speaker 4: Corey retreats upstairs and Alan asks Eric what's wrong with
Speaker 4: his brother. Eric tells him he's at that age where
Speaker 4: it could be almost anything. I wouldn't even know how
Speaker 4: to guess. Then we cut to the boy's bedroom. It's
Speaker 4: a little bit of an optical flip. Corey's laying in
Speaker 4: bed and Eric jumps on top of him. Sean's around
Speaker 4: in the bases, and you're still chucking peanuts up in
Speaker 4: the stands. Corey admits, I ain't even getting peanuts. Eric wonders,
Speaker 4: maybe you're moving too fast. This needs to happen naturally.
Speaker 4: Corey says that it comes naturally for guys like Sean
Speaker 4: and Eric. He never even heard about Eric's first time,
Speaker 4: Eric responds, remember Mitchell Davis. Corey smits, well, there's an
Speaker 4: unexpected surprise. How about you tell me about your second self?
Speaker 5: Funny. I mean, it's a little bit of a gay
Speaker 5: pant funny.
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem to be.
Speaker 5: Expected.
Speaker 4: And if I'm going to get details, I want details
Speaker 4: I can relate to, So tell me about.
Speaker 3: The other about the next time.
Speaker 4: So funny.
Speaker 5: And the kids wouldn't get it right.
Speaker 2: Kids would just be like, oh, they're just talking, but
Speaker 2: like the adults in the room are like, oh my god, that's.
Speaker 3: Right, exactly, very funny.
Speaker 4: I also love that we already by the end of
Speaker 4: the scene, we're sure that the relationship between Eric and
Speaker 4: and Corey has completely changed. But like, I love that
Speaker 4: already at the beginning of this what we just saw
Speaker 4: Eric say is I wouldn't even know how to guess
Speaker 4: what's wrong with him. But then one second later he
Speaker 4: knows exactly what's wrong with him. So he's protecting, he's
Speaker 4: he's pretending like, oh, I don't know, But then when
Speaker 4: he's in.
Speaker 3: It, they have their own special and I.
Speaker 4: Love it because they didn't have that before. And this
Speaker 4: road trip that they took over the scene changed everything
Speaker 4: really did change the way. Even every episode now has
Speaker 4: been written between the two of you, and it's really
Speaker 4: nice to see.
Speaker 1: I think so too. These were fun scenes to shoot you.
Speaker 1: Every time we had the boy's bedroom, just the two
Speaker 1: of us in the boys bedroom were just Ben and
Speaker 1: I had so much fun.
Speaker 3: These are really fun scenes.
Speaker 4: Fun So Eric explains that he and Mitch were always
Speaker 4: competitive and one day he shows up here with a
Speaker 4: brand new bike. Eric describes the bike and Corey remembers, wait,
Speaker 4: you had one just like that. Eric nods exactly. That's
Speaker 4: why Mitch got his but to one up Eric. Mitch
Speaker 4: didn't have training wheels, so Eric begged his dad to
Speaker 4: take his training wheels off, but Alan said he wasn't ready.
Speaker 4: Turns out Mitch wasn't ready either. The two boys were
Speaker 4: racing their bikes and Mitch fell off, slamming his head
Speaker 4: into some garbage cans. That's why Mitchell Davis repeated the
Speaker 4: sixth grade eleven and that whole run you do there
Speaker 4: will is so good, Oh thank you, natural easy performance,
Speaker 4: so funny. Corey asks what this could possibly have to
Speaker 4: do with his situation, and Eric explains, sex is like
Speaker 4: a bike without training wheels. If you try it before
Speaker 4: you're ready, you're going to fall off and break your head.
Speaker 1: I've heard this line from people over and over and over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is one that resonated with people where it was
Speaker 1: just and.
Speaker 3: It's true, it's true. It's not something you can jump into.
Speaker 1: It's can be a life altering experience, and it's it's
Speaker 1: hugely important. And that's the other thing I loved about
Speaker 1: this episode was it covered a lot of really important topics,
Speaker 1: you know, but but they.
Speaker 4: Were like covering covering losing your virginity as a teenager
Speaker 4: in the same episode they're covering child abusive exactly.
Speaker 3: And it worked, well, Yes, it worked.
Speaker 1: It's amazing to have those two topics not obviously not
Speaker 1: wrapped up, you can't wrap anything up like this, but
Speaker 1: to shine a light on both of them, to give
Speaker 1: good advice when it comes to both of them, to
Speaker 1: have the storylines intermingle.
Speaker 3: It's really good writing where you can you can pull
Speaker 3: both of those off. Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 4: So Eric throws a basketball backwards, landing it in the
Speaker 4: hoop as he walks out. Another one of those.
Speaker 2: Not one thing, oh, just thinking about just thinking about
Speaker 2: what you guys just said. This is following the episode right,
Speaker 2: and it's like when we just take the season four
Speaker 2: is amazing, like the way that it's it's you know,
Speaker 2: funny dating Eric issues and then this like and it
Speaker 2: doesn't it doesn't feel crazy.
Speaker 5: It's actually kind of working. What what a season? What
Speaker 5: a season.
Speaker 1: They're definitely expanding the world of boy meets world, which
Speaker 1: is which is fun to see, but it's uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nuts, that's this is the moment then where I
Speaker 4: was like, everything about their relationship has changed and adjusted
Speaker 4: and it just feels it feels really nice. So Eric
Speaker 4: leaves and the window opens, it's Sean. Corey says he
Speaker 4: doesn't always have to come in that way, but Sean says,
Speaker 4: I like it danger.
Speaker 5: That's the best.
Speaker 4: Sean nervously closes the bedroom door, and Corey begs for
Speaker 4: forgiveness about the cleare situation. Sean mindlessly says, yeah, friends
Speaker 4: for life, you know that. Corey reminds him, I want
Speaker 4: you to know you can always trust me. Sean immediately
Speaker 4: reveals my parents are back in town. Can I bring
Speaker 4: Claire here tonight? Corey responds, Oh, just throw it in
Speaker 4: my face. Sean tells him it's not like that. Corey
Speaker 4: doesn't believe him. Shawn asks, don't you think that if
Speaker 4: I could have told you something, I would have. Corey
Speaker 4: tells him he can always trust him with anything you
Speaker 4: swear you'll never tell. Sean asks, Cory nodds. Sean tells
Speaker 4: him that Claire and him have never done anything. The
Speaker 4: reason she's staying at his place is because her dad
Speaker 4: hits her. Corey is confused. Sewan explains, at nights sometimes
Speaker 4: he yells a lot and beats her up. Cory is shocked.
Speaker 4: But her dad is the vice president of a bank,
Speaker 4: and I love that they made that such a story point.
Speaker 3: Yes, agreed, one hundred.
Speaker 1: This was not some poor you know at the trailer
Speaker 1: park and he gets drunken beats her. No, that's that
Speaker 1: was a well respected white collar.
Speaker 3: Does not discriminate money. Yes, yes, important.
Speaker 5: Don't really strike me as that important, but you guys
Speaker 5: are right.
Speaker 4: It's very important. It's very important, especially with the points
Speaker 4: writer that you have mentioned about the portrayal of some
Speaker 4: you know, lower class or whatever you want to call him.
Speaker 5: I dismiss it. You can't say like, oh, that only
Speaker 5: happens to poor people who are like me, or.
Speaker 4: The whole point is that she is actually a very
Speaker 4: well off, fancy.
Speaker 1: House and he has power, which is one of the
Speaker 1: things where in Sean's mind, I can't go toned because.
Speaker 3: He's he's a guy who runs a bank. They're not
Speaker 3: going to believe me. I mean, yeah, super important.
Speaker 4: Sean shakes his head. Good job, fancy home, A low
Speaker 4: life creep. I just can't hide her at my place anymore.
Speaker 4: Corey says they should probably go to the police, but
Speaker 4: Sean says they won't believe him. He's a kid from
Speaker 4: a trailer park and Claire's dad is the vice president
Speaker 4: of a bank. Corey thinks they should at least tell
Speaker 4: his parents, but Sean cuts him off. He just swore
Speaker 4: he wouldn't tell anyone. Sean asks, one last time, can
Speaker 4: I bring Claire here tonight? Cory asks what about her dad?
Speaker 4: Won't he be upset if she's not there? What about
Speaker 4: her mom? Her mom's scared. She's just pretending it's not happening.
Speaker 4: And Claire has gotten really good at sneaking out and
Speaker 4: writer to your point before we started the episode where
Speaker 4: you said Sean just kind of understands where this kind
Speaker 4: of situation. Later, when we realize that Claire is even
Speaker 4: in denial. This line makes even it's even more impactful
Speaker 4: because you've get this. Claire didn't say to him, Yeah,
Speaker 4: my dad beats me. It's awful, and my mom's in
Speaker 4: denial and she's just pretending it's not happening. Sean knows that, yeah,
Speaker 4: from whatever his own way is. He knows what the
Speaker 4: parents are doing and how they're handling it, and it's
Speaker 4: just it's really great. Yep. And then Corey says okay,
Speaker 4: saying he'll call Sean when his parents go to sleep.
Speaker 4: And then we're in the dark Matthew's living room. Corey
Speaker 4: has brought down a pillow and a blanket for the couch,
Speaker 4: and then he lets Claire in. He gives her a
Speaker 4: brief lay out of the house and tells her he
Speaker 4: can grab more blankets if she needs them. Claire ensures
Speaker 4: him this is fine, she'll be out before Corey's parents
Speaker 4: get up. Corey tells her she doesn't need to do that.
Speaker 4: Claire smiles and notices the family portrait above the fireplace.
Speaker 4: She says Corey's parents look like nice people, and he
Speaker 4: agrees they are. Claire admires Corey's house as it reminds
Speaker 4: her from love to do it for this other girl
Speaker 4: here that we talk about.
Speaker 3: We don't talk about her. Now. We have a permanent
Speaker 3: five year old at home.
Speaker 4: And in this episode, we have neither of them.
Speaker 3: We have neither.
Speaker 4: Claire remembers this summer she spent at her aunt's house.
Speaker 4: There were flowers everywhere. You'd wake up in the morning
Speaker 4: and even before you opened your eyes, you could smell
Speaker 4: these flowers, and you just knew that everything was all right.
Speaker 4: Corey asks if he can take her coat, and Claire
Speaker 4: says that's okay, but when he takes it anyway, it
Speaker 4: reveals a big bruise on her arm. She says, I
Speaker 4: walked into my door. I'm kind of clumsy. Corey pretends
Speaker 4: like that happens to him all the time, making light
Speaker 4: of the situation, and Claire asks, Sean told you, huh.
Speaker 4: Corey responds, I know. It's not my place to tell
Speaker 4: you what to do. She interrupts him and asks if
Speaker 4: she can have a glass of milk. He walks into
Speaker 4: the kitchen and pours her a glass, but when he returns,
Speaker 4: she's already asleep.
Speaker 1: He covers her, I thought it since I didn't know
Speaker 1: where she was going I thought she was going to
Speaker 1: be gone, So I thought she was going to come
Speaker 1: back in, and she was gone.
Speaker 4: I thought if.
Speaker 3: That was an early draft or if it was but yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean again, it's like, kind of where would she go?
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I thought, the second she
Speaker 1: was exposed, exposed her Yeah, yeah, you know, thrown up
Speaker 1: in her face in any way, shape or form, she
Speaker 1: she's just gonna bade which is believable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, except for the idea that it's one of the
Speaker 4: reasons I love that very early on, Sean tells her
Speaker 4: you can trust him. I think she trusts Sean so much,
Speaker 4: and Sean has done nothing but do her right, make
Speaker 4: sure she's being protected. That if Sean told him and
Speaker 4: I'm here, I have to trust that this is still
Speaker 4: a safe place for me and she. I think she
Speaker 4: just trusts it so implicitly she feels comfortable enough to
Speaker 4: fall asleep in that second. But I agree with you
Speaker 4: that my first thought was she's gonna bolt, But I
Speaker 4: love that she didn't, and I really do think again,
Speaker 4: it all comes down to the fact that she trusts Sean,
Speaker 4: and Sean trusts Corey, so she's already asleep. Corey covers
Speaker 4: her with a blanket and grabs the small bouquet of
Speaker 4: flowers from his from his date with to Panga and
Speaker 4: he places them right by her head to remind her
Speaker 4: of her aunt's house. It's a touching little scene.
Speaker 1: It was so sweet, very very sweet, the whole, the
Speaker 1: whole little touch for Corey and.
Speaker 4: And great and again this is where those actors, oh.
Speaker 5: And it's so good.
Speaker 2: The lighting is different too, like when you turn down
Speaker 2: the lights in a set that you're.
Speaker 3: It's really great.
Speaker 1: But this is where the adult I started watching it
Speaker 1: as an adult, and this is where you start kind
Speaker 1: of yelling at the screen like, no, this is too big.
Speaker 3: A secret to keep, you can't keep this thing. And
Speaker 3: started to get riled up.
Speaker 1: You get emotional because you're you're sitting there watching almost
Speaker 1: you're we're watching ourselves make mistakes as young people. So
Speaker 1: you go you want to yell at yourself when you're fourteen, like, no,
Speaker 1: you're not doing the right thing.
Speaker 3: You know you're not doing the right thing right now.
Speaker 3: So yeah, this was I thought this whole scene was amazing.
Speaker 4: And then we're in John Adams high Sean runs to
Speaker 4: Corey at his locker. Did clear leave before his parents
Speaker 4: woke up. Correy says, yes, his plan of protecting Claire
Speaker 4: one night at a time worked for one night. Sean's happy,
Speaker 4: but now he's wondering if Corey can leave his door
Speaker 4: unlocked again. Corey tries to argue, but Sean says, she
Speaker 4: likes your place, she feels safe. There can't you just
Speaker 4: do this? Corey tells him you can't just move from
Speaker 4: place to place because it feels safe, and then he
Speaker 4: feels unsafe in the hall, so he grabs Sean and
Speaker 4: walks with them to Turner's class, which prompts a laugh
Speaker 4: from the audience, which feels totally out of place. It's
Speaker 4: just I know that it was a joke about you
Speaker 4: can't just kick.
Speaker 1: Move place to place, and then we're going to go
Speaker 1: to this place, but it was an obscure joke at best,
Speaker 1: and probable.
Speaker 4: There have been so few laughs in the episode that
Speaker 4: then this one getting a laugh. It actually took me
Speaker 4: a second. I was like, wait, why are they laughing?
Speaker 4: And then I went back and was like, oh, because
Speaker 4: they're making a joke about what he's doing. But it
Speaker 4: just I would have almost It just kind of took me.
Speaker 3: I was a strange I agree.
Speaker 4: Corey asks, did you see what that jerk did to
Speaker 4: her arm? We gotta go to the police, Sean refutes,
Speaker 4: cops just make things worse. Corey reminds Sean when you
Speaker 4: put a cherry bomb in a mailbox and made things
Speaker 4: work for him.
Speaker 5: Short episode number one exactly, probably the second one.
Speaker 4: Sean stole Turner's bike. More cops, more worse, Sean says,
Speaker 4: then you see my point.
Speaker 7: I love this.
Speaker 2: Job.
Speaker 4: You're a criminal. The cops were doing their job. We're
Speaker 4: going to the police. And although this is a little oversimplified,
Speaker 4: I do like that, Yeah, cops make situations worse when
Speaker 4: you're a criminal. What they did in that case, and
Speaker 4: in this case, the criminal is the dad, and so
Speaker 4: the very oversimplified idea is that they'll make it worse
Speaker 4: for the person who deserves it.
Speaker 2: It is interesting that we went to cops. The cops
Speaker 2: are the source in this entire episode, whereas, like you know,
Speaker 2: in most situations, it would be child protective services, right
Speaker 2: like you just make a phone call to There are
Speaker 2: social services before cops. It's interesting that we never reference
Speaker 2: any of that.
Speaker 4: We just sort of tell a teacher.
Speaker 1: Actually, I think if she's that beaten up, I think
Speaker 1: cops would probably be first, and then the police would
Speaker 1: involve CPS or something like that.
Speaker 4: That is that is true that like say she's over
Speaker 4: at Corey's house or at Shawn's house by the time,
Speaker 4: if you call CPS, they're probably not going to send
Speaker 4: somebody out at one o'clock in the morning. The cops
Speaker 4: are probably more immediately.
Speaker 5: Respond immediately to a black guy or a bruce.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, yes, yeah, yeah, I guess it just it
Speaker 2: just seems pretty extreme, you know, Like I mean, I
Speaker 2: guess you have to be sort of obvious in a
Speaker 2: sitcom context or in a television show context.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: What's so great about this episode is that by using
Speaker 2: the Sean Corey relationship and the sort of childish approach
Speaker 2: that Shawn is taking to like I can just keep
Speaker 2: you know, going back by night. You know, like there's
Speaker 2: the the most insidious part about abuse is like the
Speaker 2: confusing line. The line is getting blurred, right, like a
Speaker 2: parent suddenly being on being the person that's hurting you.
Speaker 2: And like the fact that Sean and Corey don't know
Speaker 2: who to like where there's no easy answer, you know,
Speaker 2: like that there's all this.
Speaker 5: I just love that.
Speaker 2: That's so good, it's so it's such a great way
Speaker 2: to like put the audience into the mindset of when
Speaker 2: you are a kid or you're going through something like
Speaker 2: this where you suddenly you don't know who to trust,
Speaker 2: where to go.
Speaker 5: It's it's really great.
Speaker 2: It's it's you know, like that the show is reflecting
Speaker 2: the mental state of a child who doesn't know where
Speaker 2: to turn, you know, It's created a dramatic intercara intra
Speaker 2: character situation where that confusion is the story and like,
Speaker 2: and that confusion reflects the way an individual feels when
Speaker 2: they don't know who to turn to. It's it's brilliant.
Speaker 4: It's brilliant also by the fact that she comes right
Speaker 4: out right here in the scene and she says, if
Speaker 4: you go to the cops.
Speaker 3: I'll just lie, I'll just lie. Exactly what can you do?
Speaker 4: She herself knows what will happen and doesn't want it
Speaker 4: to happen, doesn't want to be hurt anymore, but doesn't
Speaker 4: want to be taken away, and yet being taken away
Speaker 4: is the only way to make sure this doesn't happen again,
Speaker 4: and she doesn't want that either, which is exactly what
Speaker 4: kids feel.
Speaker 1: Is well, yeah, the last thing you want to think
Speaker 1: is that your parents, one of your parents actually doesn't
Speaker 1: love you or can't show doesn't matter how to love
Speaker 1: you or somebody sure, So you have to sit there
Speaker 1: and come up with some idea. But I think it
Speaker 1: also the thing I loved about this episode two. It
Speaker 1: also so shows the dynamic between Corey and Sean, the
Speaker 1: power they have as the team. Where Sean is problem
Speaker 1: in front of me, fixed problem in front of me,
Speaker 1: and Corey is big picture where it's like, okay, but
Speaker 1: what's the overall that we have to worry about to
Speaker 1: make this problem go away entirely?
Speaker 3: And the two of them together and that's what's.
Speaker 2: Sean is also like break rules, who cares, do whatever
Speaker 2: it takes.
Speaker 3: Corey's like, let's do it right, but I don't know
Speaker 3: what's right, so we have to.
Speaker 5: Brag that out.
Speaker 1: It's just that the two of them together, it just
Speaker 1: works so well in this in this episode's great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Claire says, if you call the cops, I'll
Speaker 4: just lie. Corey begs her to do something, and Claire explains,
Speaker 4: you come home to the people in that picture and
Speaker 4: you know they love you, and my dad loves me too.
Speaker 4: He just has all the stress at work and I
Speaker 4: get in his way at the wrong times.
Speaker 5: Rory's killed me.
Speaker 1: Oh that crushed me when she her delivery was so good,
Speaker 1: and she blames herself, and it's so kind of earnest
Speaker 1: the way she blames herself.
Speaker 3: Oh, it was heartbreaking.
Speaker 4: A watch so good.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: Corey's angry. What he's doing to you is wrong. Sean
Speaker 4: tries to calm him down, and they zoom in on
Speaker 4: Claire's worried face. Corey sighs, yeah, I'll unlock my door.
Speaker 4: Sean is relieved and puts his arm around Claire as
Speaker 4: they leave the room. And then we're in the trailer park.
Speaker 4: It's the middle of the night, and Corey pounds on
Speaker 4: the trailer door. Sean answers, didn't Claire show up? Corey says, yes,
Speaker 4: but we revealed Claire behind him with a huge black
Speaker 4: eye and a bruised lip.
Speaker 3: Ough the makeup.
Speaker 1: I mean, just just to talk about the makeup, because
Speaker 1: the second you see.
Speaker 3: Her you are gutted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's this is what they didn't make
Speaker 1: a you know, we've we all seen kind of the
Speaker 1: small black eyes they can give you.
Speaker 3: I mean they look like they beat the hell out
Speaker 3: of this girl.
Speaker 5: It was horrible.
Speaker 4: A grown man, yeah.
Speaker 1: Punching somebody, and that's what they did. They did not
Speaker 1: hold back. It wasn't a slight little caught on her
Speaker 1: lip or something like that. I mean, they went for it,
Speaker 1: and it is. It's a gut punch. You can see.
Speaker 3: It's. Oh yeah, it was brutal, brutal.
Speaker 4: She says she's fine, It's not as bad as it looks.
Speaker 4: Sean runs to hugger. He's so sorry he should have
Speaker 4: been there. He leads Claire into the trailer, promising her
Speaker 4: dad will never do this again. Corey says, Sean can't
Speaker 4: promise a thing like that. He knows Sean wants to
Speaker 4: do the right thing, but he's been wrong this entire time.
Speaker 4: Claire pleads, listen, in a year and a half, I'll
Speaker 4: be off at college. Until then, I'll just stay out
Speaker 4: of his way. Sean says, you haven't been doing a
Speaker 4: real good job of that so far. Claire asks, see,
Speaker 4: you're against me now too. Sean says she doesn't deserve this.
Speaker 4: Nobody does. She sits down and her voice gets shaky.
Speaker 4: I didn't do anything to him? Why did he have me? Oh?
Speaker 5: Ugh yeah, ugh.
Speaker 3: She was so good in this episode. M so good
Speaker 3: in this episode.
Speaker 4: And I would like to point out that these are
Speaker 4: the moments that people really seem to ignore when they
Speaker 4: comment on our Instagram or you know, in our emails
Speaker 4: about it's just a kid's sitcom and it shouldn't be
Speaker 4: taken too seriously wrong. There are so many moments like
Speaker 4: this that happen over the course of the seven seasons
Speaker 4: of Boy Meets World that we take the show seriously
Speaker 4: because the show is good enough to be taken seriously yep.
Speaker 4: And sometimes that means there are times when we think
Speaker 4: it's missed the mark a little bit because we know
Speaker 4: what it's capable of. And now, granted, I'm not saying
Speaker 4: every episode should be like this. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 4: this would be a terrible show if every episode was
Speaker 4: like this. But this is something more than just your
Speaker 4: normal Friday night sitcom, and it should be treated and
Speaker 4: looked at as something more important than just that. So
Speaker 4: just a brilliant show. And then we're in the Matthews
Speaker 4: living room. Sean and Corey walk into the house, cleaning
Speaker 4: up the pillows and blankets left on the couch. Corey admits,
Speaker 4: it's a good thing my parents aren't up yet, and
Speaker 4: then Alan's voice appears, Yeah, it's a good thing we're
Speaker 4: still asleep. Amy turns on the lights to reveal both
Speaker 4: of them sitting on the stairs. Corey panics, handing Sean
Speaker 4: the blanket and pillow, saying it's nice to see them.
Speaker 4: Alan asks anything we need to know before we wake up.
Speaker 4: Sewn assures them it has nothing to do with the
Speaker 4: pillow and blanket he's holding. Corey says, we were taking
Speaker 4: care of a friend who was being roughed up by
Speaker 4: her dad. Alan asks Claire Ferguson and Sean can't believe
Speaker 4: it you told them. Alan responds, he didn't tell us.
Speaker 4: Sean Amy continues, she left her book here.
Speaker 3: Can I say?
Speaker 1: I'm so glad they did this because they easily could
Speaker 1: have done. Corey told his parents, which you know, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, is the right thing to do,
Speaker 1: but he still was loyal to Sean totally, and at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, he didn't that the parents
Speaker 1: found out on their own. They again easily could have
Speaker 1: written it. Where they walk in and Corey's like, I'm sorry, Sean,
Speaker 1: this was too big a secret.
Speaker 3: I had to tell my parents. But they didn't do that.
Speaker 1: He's stuck by Sean the whole way, and they found
Speaker 1: out on their own, and I thought that was a
Speaker 1: kind of a cool way to go about it. You
Speaker 1: don't think it's kind of a cheet No, I don't
Speaker 1: I to have your cake and eat it too exactly.
Speaker 1: But it's also there's also the layer of as much
Speaker 1: as you think you can pull the wool over your
Speaker 1: eyes of your parents, a lot of times they know
Speaker 1: something's up totally. And so there is that kind of
Speaker 1: layer of I'm going to stick with Sean. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: he doesn't want me to say anything. I promised I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say anything. We told each other now four times
Speaker 1: in this episode you can trust me or I've got
Speaker 1: to trust you, or something like that. So they they
Speaker 1: paid that off where or he didn't tell his parents.
Speaker 1: I know they came up with an idea together.
Speaker 5: It's not necessarily bumping me.
Speaker 2: It's just it's very convenient, you know, Like I think
Speaker 2: it's avoiding the issue that you're bringing up, which is.
Speaker 5: Sean, you know, the trust.
Speaker 2: At some point, Corey is going to have to violate
Speaker 2: either his relationship with Sean or his relationship with his parents,
Speaker 2: right Like he's he's being he's being forced into that
Speaker 2: position by Sean.
Speaker 3: So yeah, But the.
Speaker 4: The alternative thing, the see option is that Corey is
Speaker 4: going to to continue to push Sean until Sean makes
Speaker 4: the right the right thing, the same way Phoene does
Speaker 4: to Sean in Janitor Dad. Sure, and I so I think,
Speaker 4: and I think that's that's a good way of going
Speaker 4: about it. You know, if you you don't have to
Speaker 4: tell your friend what they have to do, but you
Speaker 4: can continue to encourage them to do the right thing.
Speaker 4: And I think that's ultimately what Corey was going to do,
Speaker 4: Like I'll keep your secret for you, but ultimately you're
Speaker 4: going to have to come to this decision on your own.
Speaker 1: Keeps pressuring him correctly, and then they come up with
Speaker 1: and they they then they come up with a solution,
Speaker 1: which at the end of the day is still very childish,
Speaker 1: and it takes the adult to walk in and go no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is I get what you guys are doing, not
Speaker 1: how we're going to play this. So the kids still
Speaker 1: didn't at the end of the day, kind of come
Speaker 1: to that, to come to that realization and make that
Speaker 1: decision themselves. It still took the adult to step in
Speaker 1: and go, yeah, I get what your guys are doing not.
Speaker 5: Going to work.
Speaker 4: But they did still leave it up to Sean, and
Speaker 4: and Sean does make the decision himself.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm going to the.
Speaker 4: Police, and they say, great, we'll drive you.
Speaker 1: Alan would have got you know, they would have gone
Speaker 1: anyway at that point, but they didn't.
Speaker 5: Have such good dialogue.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's so great the fact that it's like, what
Speaker 3: are you going to do? What are you going to do?
Speaker 3: How are you going to do it?
Speaker 2: And it's just Sean saying I'm going to do the
Speaker 2: right thing because I'm choosing to.
Speaker 5: And they're like, great, we will just let's go help you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Sean explains she wanted to keep it a secret.
Speaker 4: We decided to respect that. Alan tells them, if you've
Speaker 4: got a and in serious trouble, the only thing you
Speaker 4: have to respect is how to get her the right
Speaker 4: kind of help. Sean assures them that they did. Sean
Speaker 4: tells them we put Claire on a bus to Vermont.
Speaker 4: She's going to stay with her aunt who lives there.
Speaker 4: Corey assures them it's a really nice place with flowers,
Speaker 4: and it's where she wants to be, So we did
Speaker 4: the right thing. Alan wants to know, and what's going
Speaker 4: to stop her dad from bringing her back? Who's going
Speaker 4: to stop him? Are you going to stop him?
Speaker 1: Sean?
Speaker 4: Is her aunt going to stop him? Because the distance
Speaker 4: is not going to be what stops him. Sean takes
Speaker 4: his time before saying I'm going to stop him. Alan
Speaker 4: asks how, and Sean says, I'm going to the police.
Speaker 4: Alan nods in approval. They'll drive him. Sean looks at
Speaker 4: Corey and says, I promised Claire I'd take care of her.
Speaker 4: I'm going I'm gonna get emotional reading. Corey nods, now
Speaker 4: you really are, and I cry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very sweet. I didn't cry, but I
Speaker 3: probably could have.
Speaker 2: I didn't know, Honestly, I didn't remember, and I didn't
Speaker 2: know what Sean was going to say. Yes, I didn't
Speaker 2: want to stop him. I was like, what how we're
Speaker 2: going to stop I I'm going to fight him. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna you know the way that Sean is, the way
Speaker 2: that I was del Sean is so like passionate. I
Speaker 2: was like, where's this going and then he's like, I'm
Speaker 2: going to the police. He's like, that's awesome, what great,
Speaker 2: What a well written scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and god, Rusty, We've talked about it a thousand times,
Speaker 1: but Rusty's so good well.
Speaker 4: And one of the things that does make me so
Speaker 4: emotional about it is that, like again talking about the
Speaker 4: other layers of this relationship and what it means to
Speaker 4: Sean and what Shawn's history. Is Sean being able to
Speaker 4: step in and make the right choice to protect her
Speaker 4: has to have in some way healed something. There's got
Speaker 4: to be something for him that's like something I'm able
Speaker 4: to do for somebody else that maybe if that's the
Speaker 4: subtext we're supposed to pick up on, he wasn't able
Speaker 4: to do for himself, or he wasn't able to do
Speaker 4: for his mother, or I think.
Speaker 2: All Sean wants is somebody like him in this episode
Speaker 2: standing up for him, yes, you know, which is what
Speaker 2: Turner did in season two, Season three, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and then I think Alan will do in the cult
Speaker 2: fiction episode which is coming up this season.
Speaker 4: We're in Corey's room to Panga and Corey are looking
Speaker 4: at pictures. To Panga comments it looks really pretty there.
Speaker 4: Claire says she's really happy and Vermont. Corey reveals she
Speaker 4: started a new school, she's making new friends. Her dad's
Speaker 4: in a therapy program, and she says maybe they'll see
Speaker 4: each other again someday. To Pega smiles and says she
Speaker 4: hopes everything works out for her. To Pega asks why
Speaker 4: the house is so quiet tonight, and Corey says mom
Speaker 4: and dad are at Morgan's soccer game and Eric's at
Speaker 4: the store. Penga smiles, here we are again alone in
Speaker 4: your bedroom. Corey tells her yes, but if she noticed
Speaker 4: there are no candles. She smiles and looks at his bed.
Speaker 4: What about the grapes? Corey responds, I just like grapes.
Speaker 3: And I bought it every single He's got Cory Graving too.
Speaker 4: He continues this thing with Claire. She had to grow
Speaker 4: up so fast. I just like being fifteen here with you.
Speaker 4: To Panga asks just kissing. Corey nods, Kissing's good, and
Speaker 4: I want you to know I would never want to
Speaker 4: abuse our relationship. To Panga pulls them in for a
Speaker 4: little makeout session, and he asks what was that for.
Speaker 4: She tells him just because we're not going to ninth
Speaker 4: base doesn't mean we can't take a little lead off
Speaker 4: of first Corey's eyes get wide. Baseball has been very
Speaker 4: very good to me. So they returned to kissing, and
Speaker 4: to Panga presses play on the CD player begins to
Speaker 4: once again play Morgan's Little Kiddie Song to Panga and
Speaker 4: Corey smile and sing along with it, booping each other's noses.
Speaker 4: And I thought it was very cute ending yes, and
Speaker 4: a very nice nod to tying up all of the
Speaker 4: elements of this episode.
Speaker 2: About episode just growing up too fast, Yes, staying you know,
Speaker 2: appreciating staying young when you have it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And then like, yeah.
Speaker 2: It's it's a really perfect thematic little button and it's cute.
Speaker 5: It's not you guys are like connecting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, kids, so cute. I love it. So join
Speaker 4: us for our next episode. It is season four, episode nine,
Speaker 4: sixteen Candles and four hundred pound Men.
Speaker 6: It's the sixteenth the rest of the episode, Oh God,
Speaker 6: to remember this, this is where you go to the Okay, wow,
Speaker 6: is this is this Ethan's final episode?
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe Ethan's And I think it's and it's and
Speaker 4: it's another.
Speaker 5: One with say he came back for the graduation.
Speaker 3: Oh right, right right, oh right right? Okay.
Speaker 4: So it originally aired November fifteenth, nineteen ninety six. As always,
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