Speaker 1: The greatest trick the Devil ever performed was convincing people
Speaker 1: he wasn't real.
Speaker 2: We walked away from not we I walked away from
Speaker 2: some major things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm proud of it.
Speaker 2: Self controlled discipline, boundaries, and no more people pleasing.
Speaker 3: I am done with that.
Speaker 1: Ford has a new patent that will allow self driving
Speaker 1: cars to repossess themselves. Welcome back, Welcome back, Bewoman Evolved Podcast.
Speaker 1: Can we take a minute and talk about this intro
Speaker 1: because we haven't talked about it. We got a new
Speaker 1: intro and it's giving on Time gud Met you know
Speaker 1: that guy on Instagram who'd be like taking some of
Speaker 1: the club hits and putting a little gospel spin on it.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying this is.
Speaker 1: A club hit at all, but he'd just be putting
Speaker 1: a little beat on the worship songs. You know. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's what happened with on Time, gud Like,
Speaker 1: this needs to be a thing. Can we work on
Speaker 1: this being a thing? I also want to know, does
Speaker 1: anyone else feel like twenty twenty four just came in
Speaker 1: here moving furniture, going into the pantry. Just put your
Speaker 1: feet up on the sofa with your outside shoes on,
Speaker 1: like she has come in here, she is stressed. She
Speaker 1: has stressed me out. I'm gonna be honest with you
Speaker 1: when people ask me, how are you?
Speaker 4: You know, because I be, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to lie to you, nags me how
Speaker 1: are you doing? And I just want to tell them
Speaker 1: the bus of struggle. I have a bus passed that
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that I purchased, and it's on
Speaker 1: the struggle bus.
Speaker 4: But not so.
Speaker 1: Much because something in particular happen, but it feels like
Speaker 1: all of the things happened.
Speaker 4: I know that.
Speaker 1: I know that's not true though, because like sometimes when
Speaker 1: things happen in our life, it's really one thing, but
Speaker 1: the one thing is so big that it just zaps
Speaker 1: hope from everything.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 1: I talk about this and and all hope is found.
Speaker 1: Is like when we lose hope in humanity, we lose
Speaker 1: hope and opportunities and possibilities. That hope is usually lost
Speaker 1: over one thing, but not all hope is gone, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So in navigating what has caused me to become I
Speaker 1: think distrustful, I'll be trying to like I need an
Speaker 1: I'm I have I had a trauma therapist, and I
Speaker 1: did a lot of work about like my childhood issues
Speaker 1: and inner child stuff. But I ask doctor Nita because
Speaker 1: she my friend therapist, my free therapist on the low, Like,
Speaker 1: is it a thing to need a trauma therapist but
Speaker 1: then to also need like a present day therapist for
Speaker 1: the trauma that is being caused to me right now
Speaker 1: in this day. Because I don't want to wait until
Speaker 1: I need the trauma therapist for what's happening today. I
Speaker 1: want to talk through what's happening today. You need to
Speaker 1: go to therapy. If you're listening to this, this is
Speaker 1: your sign. But anyways, I've been trying to work through
Speaker 1: exactly what it is I'm feeling, and ultimately I think
Speaker 1: it comes down to fear. And of course I'm reminded
Speaker 1: about perfect love casting out fear, and so I'm constantly
Speaker 1: asking myself what would a revelation of God's love look
Speaker 1: like in this moment? And when I ask myself that question,
Speaker 1: it would it helps me to say, you know, a
Speaker 1: revelation of God's love right now would keep me from
Speaker 1: being afraid of X, Y, and Z. So my tendency
Speaker 1: when I'm going through something tough is to kind of
Speaker 1: just want to hide, to go silent.
Speaker 4: I feel shame very easily. Easily.
Speaker 1: I took one of those personality tests, and my core
Speaker 1: emotion is shame, which means that you know, something happens
Speaker 1: to some person and they get angry and maybe someone
Speaker 1: else gets sad. But for me, when something impactful and
Speaker 1: negative happens, I feel shame. And so I've been feeling shamed,
Speaker 1: but like I didn't do anything, but maybe I just
Speaker 1: feel ashamed of you know, my name being mentioned, my
Speaker 1: family being in a tough spot. And so I've been
Speaker 1: working through what does perfect love look like in the
Speaker 1: face of this type of pain. I hate using the
Speaker 1: word pain because I really want to be like, ain't
Speaker 1: I heard me? But perfect love for me looks like
Speaker 1: embracing the reality of God's grace. I will tell you.
Speaker 1: I'm also I also have rejection. Are y'all my therapist?
Speaker 1: Are you my therapist?
Speaker 4: Bookie? As I have rejection issues.
Speaker 1: That's what I think that has really been like nagging
Speaker 1: at me is like this idea of like rejection, rejection
Speaker 1: being you know, like your want to be rejected, You're
Speaker 1: being rejected. Anytime you open your page, rejection is occurring.
Speaker 1: And that plays into my childhood trauma. And so to
Speaker 1: just remember I love this on Gyra and by Maverick City.
Speaker 1: It starts off, I've never been more loved than I
Speaker 1: am right now. Wasn't holding you up, so there's nothing
Speaker 1: I can do to let you down, And reminding myself
Speaker 1: of that revelation that like.
Speaker 4: I am loved.
Speaker 1: Deeply by the creator of the heavens and the earth,
Speaker 1: I am loved fully by someone who sees my goodness
Speaker 1: and my opportunities for growth. I am loved fully. And
Speaker 1: when I look at my life, I see that love
Speaker 1: all around me. I see it in the way that
Speaker 1: God has provided, in the way that God has covered,
Speaker 1: in the way that God continues to show up. And
Speaker 1: I have been confronted the fresh wounds of twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four with the reality of that great love. And with
Speaker 1: that being said, I really love the intro to the podcast,
Speaker 1: and I love this format. A lot of you were
Speaker 1: saying that you wanted a format that would allow for
Speaker 1: me to, I guess, speak from my heart a little
Speaker 1: bit more. And so here we are, me hard on
Speaker 1: my sleeve out here sharing it the goods, the bads,
Speaker 1: and all of the things in between. I also love
Speaker 1: that it's an opportunity for me to connect with you
Speaker 1: as well. We're two episodes into this new expanded format.
Speaker 1: So if you are just tuning in, what's up child,
Speaker 1: what's up fellas.
Speaker 4: Because we know y'all be listening, what's up girl? What's
Speaker 4: you up to?
Speaker 1: How's your year? Starting off? I hope it's a little
Speaker 1: bit more pleasant than mine has been. But if you
Speaker 1: weren't in the mud as am I, were gonna have
Speaker 1: soft skin when this is finished. What they gonna be like,
Speaker 1: how's your skin tone? So even I got drugged through
Speaker 1: the mud the beginning of twenty twenty four and it
Speaker 1: just does something for the skin. Okay, so listen. We
Speaker 1: have introduced a few new segments. They're kind of new,
Speaker 1: kind of a twist on old things. But one of
Speaker 1: them is an advice question. Instead of me reading advice
Speaker 1: questions that you send in on email, I am playing
Speaker 1: your voice. So we're doing this together. It's almost like
Speaker 1: we're co hosting the podcast, but you're asking me a question.
Speaker 1: If you want to be a part of the podcast
Speaker 1: and you want to send me a question, you want
Speaker 1: me to mind your business. I would love to because
Speaker 1: minding mine is stressing me out.
Speaker 4: I need a break. So you can send me.
Speaker 1: Your question to podcasts at womanevolve dot com and I
Speaker 1: look forward to hearing what's going on in your world.
Speaker 1: Today's mind your business question is always going to be
Speaker 1: the honesty for me. She shares a little bit of
Speaker 1: her story and where she is now and we get
Speaker 1: to help her out.
Speaker 4: So listening, And.
Speaker 5: My name is Erica Biggs and I'm from Goport, Mississippi.
Speaker 5: Before I even start, I just want to say that Sarah,
Speaker 5: you are truly an inspiration to women like me, women
Speaker 5: who have been through things and enduring things, and that
Speaker 5: are young and growing and walking and learning to walk
Speaker 5: in their faith and trust God.
Speaker 4: You are such an inspiration.
Speaker 5: One of your sermons that actually pushed me through one
Speaker 5: of my darkest moments was a girl Get Up and
Speaker 5: nothing Left to Lose. Those are the two sermons that
Speaker 5: actually pushed me out of my depression, my anxiety and
Speaker 5: helped me to keep going. So what I want to
Speaker 5: ask for your advice on is how do you keep
Speaker 5: going even when you lose faith or your faith becomes rocky, Like,
Speaker 5: how do you restore that faith? Because I am an
Speaker 5: aspiring Christian believer. I'm literally choosing to walk in my
Speaker 5: faith with God. But I struggle sometimes, and so I
Speaker 5: watch your sermons to try to help me restore my
Speaker 5: faith and to just trust in God and know that
Speaker 5: because he is God, he is who he says he is,
Speaker 5: He's going to do the things that he says he's
Speaker 5: going to do.
Speaker 4: But I'm humans, so I struggle.
Speaker 5: And I had daddy issues, and I struggle with relationships.
Speaker 5: I was divorced by the time I was twenty well
Speaker 5: going through divorce by the time I was twenty four
Speaker 5: and a single mom to two kids, and there's so
Speaker 5: much more that's going on in my life right now,
Speaker 5: and I'm just trying to keep my faith in God
Speaker 5: to not let the enemy distract me or destroy the
Speaker 5: purpose that God has for me. And so I just
Speaker 5: want to know what's your advice for a young woman
Speaker 5: like me who's been through marriage, divorce, the broken relationship.
Speaker 4: Daddy issues.
Speaker 1: Erica, first of all, thank you so much for the
Speaker 1: words you said at the beginning of your question. When
Speaker 1: I first preached Girl.
Speaker 4: Get Up, it.
Speaker 1: Was a moment God was doing a lot in my
Speaker 1: life and I actually posted it on YouTube a couple
Speaker 1: of years after I preached it, so it was actually
Speaker 1: old when it was on YouTube, but it's resonated with
Speaker 1: a lot of people, and for that I'm grateful.
Speaker 4: It's an honor for.
Speaker 1: Me to be able to serve women in my generation
Speaker 1: at a time where I feel like we are experiencing
Speaker 1: more opportunity than women have experienced in the past, but
Speaker 1: also having a reckoning with our trauma. And so I
Speaker 1: think when we no longer have limitations, we want to
Speaker 1: fully explore our potential, and we recognize that the barriers
Speaker 1: that we must confront are not just within industries and
Speaker 1: systems and society, but also within ourselves. It can be
Speaker 1: a really challenging journey. I think it's powerful, though, that
Speaker 1: you're starting with those internal barriers, like what are the
Speaker 1: internal barriers that are keeping me from experiencing liberation inwardly
Speaker 1: so that I can really accurately point my gifts and
Speaker 1: talents in a direction externally that can reflect God's image
Speaker 1: in the earth. I love that you called yourself an
Speaker 1: aspiring Christian believer because the reality is that for many
Speaker 1: of us, whether we grew up in church or did not,
Speaker 1: when you begin to become spiritually sensitive. Trying to determine
Speaker 1: what path is the best for you is a journey
Speaker 1: within itself, and Lord knows, within Christianity there's like eighteen
Speaker 1: thousand different ways to do it. But I think ultimately
Speaker 1: to recognize it at the end of the day, I
Speaker 1: want to believe. But life has been hard. You shared
Speaker 1: about your daddy issues, which, yes, please, I have some.
Speaker 1: I have many, I have a few, and going through
Speaker 1: divorce at a young age. I was twenty three when
Speaker 1: I went through a divorce. I identify with your story completely.
Speaker 1: And so my advice to you as a woman who
Speaker 1: is navigating trauma and trying to believe in God's promises
Speaker 1: is that my boxing coach says this all the time.
Speaker 4: He says, the.
Speaker 1: Greatest trick the devil ever performed was convincing people he
Speaker 1: wasn't real. And I think that that's such a necessary
Speaker 1: point to bring up, because God gets credit for the
Speaker 1: good and credit for the bad. I'm reminded in Scripture
Speaker 1: and Genesis one that you know of the trees that
Speaker 1: he did not want the man and the woman to
Speaker 1: eat from me. He says, I don't want you to
Speaker 1: eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,
Speaker 1: or from the tree of life. And so when they
Speaker 1: ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,
Speaker 1: something really did happen in that moment. I think that
Speaker 1: it tells us a couple things that God's original intention
Speaker 1: was for us to only know good. Right, So they said,
Speaker 1: he made the day and the night, and it was good,
Speaker 1: and he made he separated the firmaments, and it was good.
Speaker 1: And he made the animals and it was good. So
Speaker 1: God didn't have a problem with us knowing good. But
Speaker 1: for some reason he did not want us to know evil.
Speaker 1: I think that that is a part of his goodness
Speaker 1: and his graciousness, that he didn't want us to know evil.
Speaker 1: But I think the reality is is that he also
Speaker 1: didn't He knew that we would blur the lines, that
Speaker 1: it would be difficult to tell what's good and what's evil.
Speaker 1: If I only if you only have the knowledge of good,
Speaker 1: then you get to experience goodness. But when you have
Speaker 1: the knowledge of evil, you don't trust good anymore. Because
Speaker 1: when evil, when trauma, when someone else's mistakes and choices
Speaker 1: show up in a way that hurts you, and then
Speaker 1: you make decisions that you can't even believe that you
Speaker 1: were capable of making yourself. That level of disappointment allows
Speaker 1: us exposure to a form of evil that we were
Speaker 1: never meant to experience. And so as you are aspiring
Speaker 1: to really understand who God is and to trust God's promises,
Speaker 1: I want you to know foundationally that the evil, the heartbreak,
Speaker 1: the pain, the betrayal, the molestations, the rapes, the abortions,
Speaker 1: I mean all of the things that cause us pain,
Speaker 1: all of the things that put us in a situation
Speaker 1: where we're having to make difficult choices, like all of
Speaker 1: those have a source. Good has a source and evil
Speaker 1: has a source. Your daddy issues, whether he wasn't able
Speaker 1: to show up fully for you, or he showed up
Speaker 1: and he was harmful in his presence, that is a
Speaker 1: result of evil penetrating his life and him not reconciling
Speaker 1: fully had the best deal in heal from that. The divorce,
Speaker 1: whether it was your fault, his fault, whoever's fault, is
Speaker 1: a part of our reality when we are still figuring
Speaker 1: out what healing and growth looks like for us. This
Speaker 1: is a long answer, but I just want you to
Speaker 1: know that part of really trusting God is recognizing that
Speaker 1: we have a real adversary. One Peter five and A
Speaker 1: says be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary, the devil,
Speaker 1: walks around like a roaring lion, thinking whom he made devour.
Speaker 1: Many of us have been chewed up by life. We
Speaker 1: have been victims, we have been villains. We have been robbed,
Speaker 1: we have lost, we have grieved, we have cried, we
Speaker 1: have been devoured. But when we choose to say, I'm
Speaker 1: still going to believe God, I am going to trust
Speaker 1: that the goodness of God is still accessible to me.
Speaker 1: The healing, the restoration, the power of God can still
Speaker 1: reach me. Then life has to spit you out. The
Speaker 1: enemy has to spit you out. You cannot help being
Speaker 1: devoured sometimes, but you get to do the Heimlich on
Speaker 1: the devil and force the enemy to spit you out.
Speaker 1: For shame to spit you out, force depression to spit
Speaker 1: you out. You may need some therapy to get it done.
Speaker 1: You may need to get in a good church. You
Speaker 1: may have to change your music, may have to change
Speaker 1: your circle. But life has to spit you out. The
Speaker 1: rest of the verse continues in First Peter five and nine,
Speaker 1: and it says resist him steadfast and the faith, knowing
Speaker 1: that the same sufferings are experienced by your brotherhood in
Speaker 1: the world. That's why podcasts like this are important. Can
Speaker 1: I keep reading verson? And then I'll shut up? It says,
Speaker 1: but may the God of all grace who called us
Speaker 1: to his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after you have
Speaker 1: suffered a while perfect, establish, strengthen, and settle you, friend.
Speaker 1: I want you to know that there is a settling
Speaker 1: available to you, and it may come through some suffering.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you've already experienced some suffering, but you seeking,
Speaker 1: seeking truth, seeking to really follow Jesus. How did you
Speaker 1: turn the other cheek? How did you allow yourself to
Speaker 1: become a vessel? How did you keep your heart pure?
Speaker 1: Walking in that direction is the beginning of that establishing, strengthening,
Speaker 1: and settling taking place in you, And so I hope
Speaker 1: this encourages you. You may have been devoured buy some things,
Speaker 1: but life is spinning you out and then you're gonna
Speaker 1: go catch you and come do the Heimlich on a
Speaker 1: few other women.
Speaker 4: I need you, girl, I need your voice.
Speaker 1: I'm actually really excited about this week's episode because I
Speaker 1: recognize that our guest this week has had her own
Speaker 1: experiences with life. Sometimes we are devoured and don't know it.
Speaker 1: I think that there are two. There's probably a thousand,
Speaker 1: but for the sake of our conversation, I'm wanna say
Speaker 1: there's probably two dilemmas. There's being devoured and struggling to
Speaker 1: come out, and then there's being devoured and not knowing.
Speaker 1: But there is a moment that happens in our lives
Speaker 1: when we realize that the way that I'm thinking, the
Speaker 1: way that I'm showing up in life is it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel aligned with who healed people who, and no one's
Speaker 1: fully healed. We're all walking it out, but who. It
Speaker 1: doesn't feel aligned with growth, It feels restricted, it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel liberating, and you begin to interrogate the way that
Speaker 1: you're showing up in the way that you think, and
Speaker 1: if you are courageous enough to be transparent about that journey,
Speaker 1: then you become someone like b Simone b Simone Braylin
Speaker 1: as she gave me permission to.
Speaker 4: Call it because I was like, what I call do
Speaker 4: I call you? B?
Speaker 2: Do I call you?
Speaker 3: Be?
Speaker 4: Some? Is a full name? What's the energy around here?
Speaker 1: But she has been really transparent as of late about
Speaker 1: her story about her coming to a place where she
Speaker 1: grew up in religion but is really diving into relationship.
Speaker 1: She is undoing some people pleasing that became a part
Speaker 1: of her life and constantly wanting to be liked, and
Speaker 1: as a result of choosing to be spit out from
Speaker 1: those ways of thinking, she's had to make some really
Speaker 1: tough decisions. Many of you may know be Simone from
Speaker 1: Wilding Out, where she is a long standing cast member,
Speaker 1: but she is a comedian and actress and businesswoman. She's
Speaker 1: originally from that Detawn Dallas makes Some Noise and she
Speaker 1: now resides in Atlanta in Atlanta, Georgia. Her other acting
Speaker 1: credits include multiple feature films, as well as dozens of
Speaker 1: appearances on bt MTV and BH one. The exposure has
Speaker 1: brought her a huge fan base. Her fan base is
Speaker 1: constantly growing. I think she's at six million followers on Instagram.
Speaker 1: She has her own popular makeup line and a fitness brand.
Speaker 4: Called Bi Simone Fit. She was also the co host.
Speaker 1: Of the Know for Sure podcast, which, to many of
Speaker 1: their listeners, were heartbreak heartbroken last year when they decided
Speaker 1: to end the podcast. I don't know Meghan and I
Speaker 1: have to be honest. I heard the podcast sporadically, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't a faithful listener, although I was praying. I
Speaker 1: had Meghan and be Simon on the Womani Vall podcast
Speaker 1: a little while ago and got to experience their friendship
Speaker 1: and then started listening to the podcast sporadically after that.
Speaker 4: I know the podcast.
Speaker 1: Ending was hard for a lot of people, and then
Speaker 1: for other people they saw it as necessary to haven't
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to speak to Megan, but I see
Speaker 1: she has continued on with a podcast in totality, I
Speaker 1: think it's called and hopefully I have an opportunity to,
Speaker 1: you know, just encourage her in passing, as she is
Speaker 1: also in a season of growth and transition as well.
Speaker 1: I say that to say sometimes when you know people, like,
Speaker 1: first of all, we don't know these people, but when
Speaker 1: you think you know people, you'd be like, whose side
Speaker 1: am I supposed to be on? Am I on b
Speaker 1: some own side? Or am I on Megan's side? And
Speaker 1: I don't think we have to choose a side. I
Speaker 1: think we're on the side of growth, healing and wholeness,
Speaker 1: which is available to both of them, regardless of which
Speaker 1: side to choose. I can't wait for you guys to
Speaker 1: experience what's happening in Bestime's life and to learn some lessons.
Speaker 4: So let's get into it.
Speaker 1: So beginning of the new year, Yeah, everyone is usually
Speaker 1: really excited about like all their resolutions. Like, what are
Speaker 1: some of the things that you are deciding is going
Speaker 1: to be different for you in twenty twenty four?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I've been doing this before the New year,
Speaker 2: but I don't even want to say. I don't like
Speaker 2: the word diet, but lifestyle change. Okay, I like really
Speaker 2: have to get on it. I've been working on it.
Speaker 2: You're saying, I've never seen an ab Okay, Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 2: come on.
Speaker 1: You know, I have convinced myself that God doesn't have
Speaker 1: that for me. I'm like part of the team. Pregnancy
Speaker 1: is just like abs got blown up on the spot
Speaker 1: before they could even emerge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how are you getting your apps? Like what is
Speaker 4: your eating?
Speaker 2: Just really honing in on lifestyle change, like being super
Speaker 2: meticulous and particular on what I'm putting into my body.
Speaker 2: So you know that starts internally with self control and discipline.
Speaker 1: So I'm still trying to master that everything goes back
Speaker 1: to the inside.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Once you fix that, the hour will follow.
Speaker 1: Are you an emotional eater or an emotional starver? Emotional eater?
Speaker 1: Me too, Like I'm happy eat, I'm sad eat. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's celebrate eat everything everything. There's a meal connected
Speaker 1: to everything. I feel like I would lose weight if
Speaker 1: I would just stop eating when I'm not hungry. But
Speaker 1: sometimes I've been doing that. Yeah, I think it makes
Speaker 1: a big difference.
Speaker 2: I saw this trick, like when you're you know how
Speaker 2: you're full, pour water on your plate, like mess the
Speaker 2: food up.
Speaker 3: So you can't just do it.
Speaker 2: No, you did it because you're full stop push the
Speaker 2: plate away, you're no longer hungry. Stop eating when you're satisfied.
Speaker 2: So yeah, self controlled discipline and boundaries and no more
Speaker 2: people pleasing. I am done with that.
Speaker 1: When did you recognize that you like have a people
Speaker 1: poleasing mentality?
Speaker 4: Have you always known it?
Speaker 2: I've known it for a while, but recent simply in
Speaker 2: a situation a relationship that I had, I was like,
Speaker 2: this is really bad, like that you don't say no,
Speaker 2: You're you're brushed off under the rug, and eventually it's
Speaker 2: all gonna come to a head.
Speaker 1: What made you become a people please? Are you wired
Speaker 1: that way? Or is that a trauma response?
Speaker 3: For sure, trauma response.
Speaker 2: I had to go all the way back to where
Speaker 2: it started, and it started in my household. And it's
Speaker 2: rooted in wanting to be liked and not ruffling feathers
Speaker 2: and making sure that making everybody happy, like you like me?
Speaker 2: You know, It's rooted in wanting to have validation and
Speaker 2: be liked.
Speaker 1: I feel that I have been a was is a
Speaker 1: people pleased? Yea, yeah, all of those things. I can't
Speaker 1: tell if it's about being liked or trying to manipulate belonging.
Speaker 3: Explain that.
Speaker 1: So I cannot tell if I am doing it because
Speaker 1: I want people to like me, or if I am
Speaker 1: so desperate for a sense of belonging wow, that I
Speaker 1: manipulate myself or the situation in order to have a
Speaker 1: sense of belonging.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: I think sometimes what we're calling is I want to
Speaker 1: be liked, is really I want to feel like I
Speaker 1: belong And so whatever music I need to listen to
Speaker 1: or not listen to, whatever actions I need to take
Speaker 1: or not need to take, I'm willing to do that
Speaker 1: because at the core, I'm looking for a sense of belonging. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's not a neat I don't know. You know, I
Speaker 1: do a lot of processing. Okay, So do you think
Speaker 1: that's true for you? Sense of belonging. Do you think
Speaker 1: it is about being liked?
Speaker 2: I think it's about being like really, yeah, I've always
Speaker 2: I've never felt like an outcast or it felt like
Speaker 2: I didn't belong or I'm sure I've had those moments.
Speaker 3: Let's not say I've never.
Speaker 2: But for the most part, I can walk into a room,
Speaker 2: walk into a situation, walk into an environment, and fully
Speaker 2: be myself. Like I don't feel like I have to
Speaker 2: adjust or change or feel like I have to fit
Speaker 2: in in that you.
Speaker 3: Know, in that box.
Speaker 2: But I just feel like I want people to I
Speaker 2: was prayerful about that this morning.
Speaker 3: My God, let it go.
Speaker 2: Whether I'm on a blog, whether it's a group of people,
Speaker 2: whether I walk it, if they don't like me, it
Speaker 2: is okay, I'm trying to please you.
Speaker 1: How do you battle with that, though, with the reality
Speaker 1: that as a public person you do somewhat need to
Speaker 1: be liked.
Speaker 2: I mean, but I think it's more focusing on the
Speaker 2: people that do more focusing on my community and the
Speaker 2: people that I'm called to and not focused on because
Speaker 2: it's really a small percent. It's like you have millions
Speaker 2: of people that do like you, even if it's not millions,
Speaker 2: you have tons of people that do. Focus on those
Speaker 2: people and stop trying to convince the people that don't that, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm a good person, Oh but my heart is pure.
Speaker 2: That's irrelevant. Focus on the people that you're called to,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I have a question, but I don't know
Speaker 1: how to ask it. Do you think that if you
Speaker 1: were not focused on pleasing people, are people liking you
Speaker 1: that the relationships that you have Do you really think
Speaker 1: that that is what was sustaining them? Was you acting
Speaker 1: in such a way that you diminished yourself because if
Speaker 1: you were full of yourself, do you think that it
Speaker 1: could not withstand your authenticity?
Speaker 3: I one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I feel like things that I should have said in
Speaker 2: certain relationships on day one I said five years later
Speaker 2: or four years later.
Speaker 1: Had you said them on day one? What the relationship
Speaker 1: had progressed? Or do you think the relationships end because
Speaker 1: you wait to give them everything you should have?
Speaker 2: Think possibly it could progress and if it didn't, it
Speaker 2: was a protection we're not supposed to be in each
Speaker 2: other's lives if I can't show up as my full,
Speaker 2: authentic self and not filter what I'm saying, or have
Speaker 2: a safe space to feel like, Okay, just let that go, Okay,
Speaker 2: brush that under the rug.
Speaker 3: Don't you do that? For years? It's like you're.
Speaker 2: Dimming your light, yeah, to please this person or pour
Speaker 2: into this person. And like we were talking about off camera,
Speaker 2: eventually you're not a victim. You're a volunteer. You continuously
Speaker 2: choose to do that over and over and over, whether
Speaker 2: it's a romantic relationship, a platonic relationship, a business relationship.
Speaker 2: And eventually I saw a pastor say this Shawnee's husband.
Speaker 2: I can't think of his name. Yes, he said, you
Speaker 2: don't have anxiety, You're not depressed. You're you're not being yourself.
Speaker 2: That's what causes anxiety. That's what causes depression when you
Speaker 2: dim who God called you to be and who you
Speaker 2: are to please everybody else. So once you can fully
Speaker 2: walk into that light and be yourself, it's a freedom
Speaker 2: attached to it.
Speaker 1: That's I've got a book coming out in April and
Speaker 1: it's called Power Moves, and I'm second guessing. I think
Speaker 1: anytime you're working on probably content or anything that you're
Speaker 1: releasing to people's like it makes sense in my head.
Speaker 4: I hope it translates.
Speaker 1: What I'm hoping translates in the book is that it's
Speaker 1: called power moves, and the expression of what power is
Speaker 1: changes based off of what situation you're in. So when
Speaker 1: I'm preaching, there's a certain level of power that fits
Speaker 1: for that moment, but I don't bring that person home.
Speaker 1: And then I'm talking to my kids the way that
Speaker 1: I talk to someone when I'm delivering discernment, and so
Speaker 1: being sensitive enough to understand, like, what is power in
Speaker 1: this situation? I think comes from really releasing ourselves from
Speaker 1: the expectations and opinions of other people. That allowing ourselves
Speaker 1: to say what is authentic to me in this moment,
Speaker 1: and can I stand by that? So okay, but listen,
Speaker 1: switching gears. Okay, So whenever there is a friendship group
Speaker 1: and I'm saying a group because you created a friendship
Speaker 1: group and we were all a part of it. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't believe that we have to choose sides. That
Speaker 1: we can still be friends with everyone, but a part
Speaker 1: of us feels like we need to choose sides.
Speaker 3: Becauseide black or white, up and down. It's like, relax, relax,
Speaker 3: you know what.
Speaker 2: I've never I've always duality in so many things, and
Speaker 2: I think that has been a gift of mine, but
Speaker 2: also a downfall because well I could see that, and
Speaker 2: I could see that, I get what is it In
Speaker 2: certain situations you do have to pick a side. And
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm not totally relating this to the
Speaker 2: friend group, but I've battled with that, especially because.
Speaker 3: I'm the nucleus of the friend group.
Speaker 2: You know, when you bring all these that I'll often
Speaker 2: in relationships in business, I bring people together. So when
Speaker 2: I'm the nucleus and I not make a decision or
Speaker 2: you know, go through, I'm like, that's not what we're
Speaker 2: doing anymore. I'm like, well, y'all trusted me as a visionary.
Speaker 2: When everything was good, you trust me. You got to
Speaker 2: trust me as a visionary in my character when everything's bad,
Speaker 2: you have to trust my character. You might not always
Speaker 2: trust my decision making, but you've always trusted my heart.
Speaker 2: That's why we've been friends for a decade, or been
Speaker 2: friends for eight years or seven years. So no, I'm
Speaker 2: not perfect, but my heart has always been the same.
Speaker 2: So I need you to trust that this season too.
Speaker 2: Yeah so I battle with that, But like I said,
Speaker 2: I think duality is a gift of mine. But now
Speaker 2: I'm to the point where I'm like, I need to
Speaker 2: start being more direct in black and white, and that
Speaker 2: comes from knowing yourself and truly who you are. And
Speaker 2: you posted this in your caption today, standing on business.
Speaker 2: Don't send me that picture. My feet is pictured standing
Speaker 2: on business. Sometimes you got to stand on business. Sometimes
Speaker 2: it is black and white. Yeah, you know, so I'm
Speaker 2: struggling with that a little bit.
Speaker 1: How what if standing on business kept you from having
Speaker 1: or would have kept you from starting to know for
Speaker 1: your podcast and then ending the know for your podcast.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: Ending the podcast our podcast was built on friendship, and
Speaker 2: our friendship wasn't on a solid foundation. We weren't seeing
Speaker 2: eye to eye. So I feel like God allowed removed
Speaker 2: me from that. I resigned from it and really asked
Speaker 2: God what to do. It wasn't an impot decision, it
Speaker 2: wasn't like I don't want to do. It was prayer, fasting,
Speaker 2: and I really know, I don't feel like I know.
Speaker 2: God spoke to me and was like, you know, it's
Speaker 2: time to go on separate paths. So I'm proud of
Speaker 2: my decision. I stand by my decision, and I'm proud
Speaker 2: of myself man.
Speaker 3: For making a major decision.
Speaker 2: And we walked away from not we I walked away
Speaker 2: from some major things, you know, and.
Speaker 3: I'm proud of it. I'm proud of it.
Speaker 1: It should be, especially for someone who you said, you know,
Speaker 1: being a people pleaser since you were.
Speaker 4: A young person.
Speaker 1: My god, it was difficult to then say, even though
Speaker 1: I know continuing going with please a lot of people,
Speaker 1: I'm choosing to step away.
Speaker 3: Choosing to step away because I know it's right in.
Speaker 2: This season, you know, and our foundation was the friendship.
Speaker 3: And it was too rocky.
Speaker 1: How did you end up in a situation where the
Speaker 1: friendship didn't have that foundation?
Speaker 2: I think back to, like I said, my childhood trauma
Speaker 2: of people pleasing and finally setting boundaries in space, and
Speaker 2: it caused a little rockiness.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: You know, when you say no five years later or
Speaker 2: say this doesn't work for me five years later or
Speaker 2: years later in a relationship, that's going to cause conflict
Speaker 2: because you've been okay with certain things for so long.
Speaker 3: You know. So, like I said it, I'm not a victim, right,
Speaker 3: I'm a volunteer.
Speaker 2: In any relationship, you have to speak up for yourself
Speaker 2: and have to have open communication. And if you constantly
Speaker 2: people please and don't set boundaries over and.
Speaker 3: Over, you're choosing to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, well, I'm anxious, I'm not speaking up.
Speaker 2: You're choosing that. So eventually you have to get to
Speaker 2: the root of why you're doing that.
Speaker 4: It's hard.
Speaker 1: I think in friendships we find out that we need
Speaker 1: to reintroduce ourselves most of the time after we've already
Speaker 1: had the friction of not having connection. Yeah, I had
Speaker 1: a really hard friendship breakup that I think it's still
Speaker 1: hard for me.
Speaker 3: You told me about that some difference.
Speaker 1: For years we weren't So she was the first teen
Speaker 1: mom that I'd ever met, and she was like in
Speaker 1: college and she was just all of these things that
Speaker 1: made me believe that you can do this. And so
Speaker 1: she definitely met me at a time where I was
Speaker 1: still trying to figure out my identity and we grew
Speaker 1: up together. And I think that as I changed and
Speaker 1: as she changed, that I still want it because I
Speaker 1: can only speak for my part. I still wanted that
Speaker 1: bond that we had before, but I also wanted all
Speaker 1: these other bonds I met my husband now I'd moved
Speaker 1: to a new city, and it's like, how do I
Speaker 1: maintain what we had? And I couldn't, Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: didn't know what it could become. Yeah, And I think
Speaker 1: eventually it came to a space where we just let
Speaker 1: things go and we tried to kind of like circle
Speaker 1: around each other. Yeah, but it just never clicked again.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think that sometimes things are
Speaker 1: definitely over, yeah, and there's a slow fading away, and
Speaker 1: then sometimes you just need space. How do you know
Speaker 1: the difference for yourself?
Speaker 3: Sometimes you don't.
Speaker 2: But I feel like in this season it's definitely like
Speaker 2: separation over, you know.
Speaker 3: But I don't know what the future holds.
Speaker 2: I don't know that, but I know in this season
Speaker 2: we had to go on our individual separate paths, you know,
Speaker 2: And that's okay. Like freedom and peace does not mean
Speaker 2: you're not angry, you're not sad, you don't have feelings,
Speaker 2: you don't have emotions. There is a freedom, a liberation
Speaker 2: to sticking up for yourself, standing by what you know
Speaker 2: God told you, and people will try to come distort
Speaker 2: God's voice. They will try to say, well, he didn't
Speaker 2: say that. I don't I don't know about all that.
Speaker 2: I know what he told me, and I have to
Speaker 2: walk in obedience, no matter what it looks like to
Speaker 2: anybody else. My free this is my soul. My freedom
Speaker 2: is attached to this. And I have so much freedom,
Speaker 2: so much peace. But that doesn't mean it's not hard.
Speaker 2: I have days where I cry, days where I grieve.
Speaker 2: I'm grieving a relationship, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm free, though it's so hard. It's so hard.
Speaker 3: I'm about to cry right now. I'm like, I thought
Speaker 3: you wasn't gonna make I didn't say anything. It's so hard.
Speaker 2: But man, I'm telling you, if you just be obedient
Speaker 2: to what God is telling you to do, there's so
Speaker 2: much attached to your freedom and your peace.
Speaker 4: How do you define freedom.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm back to who God called me
Speaker 2: to be, no limitations, no anxiety, no overthinking. I just
Speaker 2: feel like I'm walking. I'm being myself, my full authentic
Speaker 2: self that I've always been. That's what got me to
Speaker 2: this point. But sometimes dimming that light and people pleasing
Speaker 2: you're not that and back to That's what causes anxiety,
Speaker 2: That's what causes nervousness. That's what causes no peace. Just
Speaker 2: that feeling inside of you that is not calm and peaceful.
Speaker 2: I have that back, and it's like night and day.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you're living your life out loud. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: many people to see and yeah coming on.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I feel like over the.
Speaker 1: Course, how long has it been since you've really begin
Speaker 1: to share vocally your faith journey?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: I was watching my old YouTube ten years ago when
Speaker 2: I moved to Atlanta, Georgia. I was sitting there on
Speaker 2: the YouTube praising and talking. And I've always been in
Speaker 2: my faith, always talked about God. But rededicating my life
Speaker 2: to Christ has been a year. Okay, so it was
Speaker 2: November twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: What happened? What made you rededicate?
Speaker 2: Just asking the tough questions, like the friendship that I
Speaker 2: just came out of. She the way she articulated God
Speaker 2: and spoke about God and her relationship with God, it
Speaker 2: made me yearn.
Speaker 3: For a relationship with Him.
Speaker 2: And I truly believe that that was one of her
Speaker 2: purposes in my life, like to bring me to Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: Like she really had an articulation and understanding in a
Speaker 2: way to articulate who God was to her, And it
Speaker 2: made me want to know more about God because I
Speaker 2: always had religion but not relationship. Yeah, And I asked
Speaker 2: myself the hard questions. My dad's a pastor, so I
Speaker 2: grew up in the church. I was an usher two
Speaker 2: seats please, like, oh Jesus, I'm sleeping, Why do I
Speaker 2: have to usher today?
Speaker 3: But grew up in the church.
Speaker 2: But I asked myself start asking myself questions, why are
Speaker 2: you Christian? Why do you believe in Jesus Christ? Why
Speaker 2: aren't you Buddhist? Why aren't you atheist? Why do you
Speaker 2: not just believe in the universe? And I asked myself
Speaker 2: all these questions. Is it because you were raised that way?
Speaker 2: Or is it because you truly had an encounter and
Speaker 2: a relationship with Jesus Christ and you know him for yourself?
Speaker 3: And the answer wasn't good enough for me. It was
Speaker 3: because I was raised that way.
Speaker 2: So I started to seek Jesus Christ for myself, a
Speaker 2: relationship with him for myself.
Speaker 3: And he blew my mind so quick because I don't
Speaker 3: have time for this.
Speaker 2: I am the way, the truth is the life clear
Speaker 2: you know, I need you to come on with it.
Speaker 2: But it happened so quick, and it was so once
Speaker 2: I started to seek him. It's in my bio Jeremiah
Speaker 2: twenty nine thirteen. I lived by that verse because I've
Speaker 2: encountered it and I've lived it, and he showed me
Speaker 2: who he was like that never asked another question.
Speaker 1: Okay, so how does that fit within the context of
Speaker 1: your world and your lifestyle and your content. How do
Speaker 1: you marry this conviction, this liberation into a world that
Speaker 1: especially you know, I'm a preacher, so that's you know,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit more fitting in my world. But
Speaker 1: you're a comedian, you're an actor. You have all of
Speaker 1: these different touch points. How do you incorporate that.
Speaker 2: I think it's different and more difficult for me because
Speaker 2: I'm in the line.
Speaker 3: Might because people.
Speaker 2: Are seeing me transition, right y'all the cameras are on me.
Speaker 2: Most people just transition and they get to do it
Speaker 2: without cameras or Instagram or it's like when you see
Speaker 2: somebody go from I guess culture to kingdom, slowly moving
Speaker 2: in that direction, like really a lifestyle change back to
Speaker 2: lifestyle change and conviction. It's just going to look wild
Speaker 2: to people like my stories might be club Bible, Why prayer.
Speaker 2: It's like I'm slowly transitioning, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And I think when God convicts me, I just have
Speaker 2: to listen. Like April twenty fifth, he said, be sober.
Speaker 2: I have never been convicted on drinking or anything like
Speaker 2: that ever in my life. I was just like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm a social drinker, I'm an alcoholic. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 2: talking about for you. I'm not saying everybody that drinks
Speaker 2: is that's I'm not saying that. I'm fit saying for me.
Speaker 2: When he convicts you individually, you just have to be
Speaker 2: obedient that obedient to that and listen as you go
Speaker 2: on your journey. He told me April twenty fifth, I've
Speaker 2: been sober since. I don't know what that looks like.
Speaker 2: That's for everything. That's a now thing. He needed me
Speaker 2: sober in that season. But when he talks to me,
Speaker 2: I move. So I'm moving step by step with what
Speaker 2: God says, not what the world says, not what Instagram says.
Speaker 2: Is the more I focus on my vertical relationship with him,
Speaker 2: I will move accordingly to where he wants me to go.
Speaker 1: So do you have any clue about where you're headed next.
Speaker 1: So like this that one expression of your life and
Speaker 1: identity through the podcast has come to an end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we're in a new year, new season, new things.
Speaker 1: What are you looking forward to?
Speaker 3: Stand up? I love comedy.
Speaker 2: I've been doing stand up for five years. I've been
Speaker 2: doing movies and acting. I want to get into more
Speaker 2: film and I'm really excited I go on tour this year.
Speaker 2: So and I'm working on I'm battling with that, like
Speaker 2: the jokes and the things I've been saying for five years.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm like, I can I say that?
Speaker 4: Can I say that?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: You would never be able to come to my show?
Speaker 4: Girl, I can't wait to.
Speaker 1: Be therein the bad because if I saw you at
Speaker 1: my show, I'd be like, you're just gonna do an
Speaker 1: altar call?
Speaker 3: We cannot, you know. So, But working on that.
Speaker 2: When I was saying those jokes before, it was who
Speaker 2: I am, it was it was self expression. It was
Speaker 2: who I was in that season. Now when I say
Speaker 2: certain jokes, I'm like, I'm acting. This is not who
Speaker 2: I am in this season. So working on getting my
Speaker 2: comedy in my art form to align with who I
Speaker 2: am in this season?
Speaker 4: What do you think my people are?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: You know, I love God, but I'm not going to
Speaker 1: change who I am because like there would be some
Speaker 1: people who were like, hey, like God knew who you
Speaker 1: were when he met you, like when you rededicated your life.
Speaker 4: But you know you don't. Why should you change?
Speaker 3: Wee if I didn't change, Oh my god, I don't
Speaker 3: think the old media.
Speaker 2: Ooh thank you Lord, Oh my goodness. You changed because
Speaker 2: you're growing, you're healing, you're evolving, and the closer your
Speaker 2: relationship gets with him, He's gonna perfect things in you.
Speaker 2: The person who you were is not who God called
Speaker 2: you to be. It was a part of yourself, a
Speaker 2: part of your journey. I had to go through those
Speaker 2: things so that people could see me like she's been
Speaker 2: through some stuff. She's relatable. I can trust her because
Speaker 2: she she knows what that's like. You know, some people
Speaker 2: might not go to church, they might not want to
Speaker 2: listen to the pastor or whatever, but they're going to
Speaker 2: relate to my story as be Simon.
Speaker 3: You know. So I think God.
Speaker 2: Uses that and grace to me through that season of
Speaker 2: my life to bring me here to just articulate my
Speaker 2: relationship with him, articulate my testimony and show that who
Speaker 2: I am right now and who he's calling me to
Speaker 2: be is truly who he called me to be.
Speaker 1: I heard once that they that comedians are often as
Speaker 1: sad as people.
Speaker 4: Is that true?
Speaker 2: Ooh?
Speaker 3: We I think I'm pretty happy.
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I don't know any so I just thought
Speaker 4: i'd ask.
Speaker 2: But I do think it stems from pain, like when
Speaker 2: I was younger. Maybe that's back to people pleasing if
Speaker 2: there was an argument or a fight in the house,
Speaker 2: or nervousness or anxiety, or I'm in an uncomfortable situation,
Speaker 2: I'm telling a joke, I'm making somebody laugh, I'm being goofy,
Speaker 2: So it stems from not wanting to feel pain, you know.
Speaker 2: So I think we turn our pain into comedy. I
Speaker 2: had two deaths last year, and I've never been to
Speaker 2: a funeral as an adult, and I talk about that
Speaker 2: in my stand up and I get them. Really, I
Speaker 2: hone in on the message and then I have a joke.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a part of life. So I take
Speaker 2: my pain and I turn it into comedy. So I
Speaker 2: do think comics are very creative in how we you know,
Speaker 2: articulate our pain.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: We make fun of.
Speaker 4: It, you know.
Speaker 1: I I think like many people were really hurt by
Speaker 1: the loss of your friend.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, what is it about her life.
Speaker 1: And legacy that you're going to continue to carry out
Speaker 1: through your life?
Speaker 2: Jackie was the most consistent friend I ever had.
Speaker 3: And I know you're gonna have bad days.
Speaker 2: I know some days you might not be able to
Speaker 2: show up as your best self, but she was the
Speaker 2: same every day.
Speaker 3: I just love that she let her light pour out
Speaker 3: no matter where she was.
Speaker 2: If she's like, yeah, I'm sad, I just cried, But
Speaker 2: what are you doing, girl, Let's go? You know, just
Speaker 2: very happy all the time. She showed up as herself
Speaker 2: all the time. So she was a a phenomenal mother.
Speaker 2: Phenomenal mother, I mean, y'all, Jackie was, Oh my God,
Speaker 2: just a light. And the way she talked about God
Speaker 2: before she passed away, that's what gave me peace in
Speaker 2: her passing, Like the way she was building her relationship
Speaker 2: with Him, which is so beautiful. Some of her last
Speaker 2: posts were all about God like, so that's what we
Speaker 2: need to focus on, y'all.
Speaker 3: This life is so temporary.
Speaker 2: Jackie's son was still breastfeeding when she passed away.
Speaker 3: Y'all. You don't have time. You do not have time.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: She had three kids, two girls, a baby boy. You
Speaker 2: didn't think she thought she was gonna watch those kids
Speaker 2: grow up, go to prom, go to school, have careers.
Speaker 3: Her life was still taken. You do not have time.
Speaker 3: Find your purpose, find your gifts, and walk in what
Speaker 3: God is calling you to do. Stop wasting time in
Speaker 3: that toxic relationship. Stop wasting time. You don't have time.
Speaker 2: So it was just beautiful to see what Jackie did
Speaker 2: with the last of her time. She was really focused
Speaker 2: on God, and that made me have so much peace
Speaker 2: in her passing, because that's really all that matters.
Speaker 1: There was something about here in Braylyn say that when
Speaker 1: her friend Jackie died that her son was still breastfeeding.
Speaker 1: That made me want to take a moment and just
Speaker 1: really thank God that I'm still present, But to ask myself,
Speaker 1: am I really taking advantage of all that my life
Speaker 1: has to offer in terms of joy and connection and
Speaker 1: the ability to heal and grow. Thinking about our advice
Speaker 1: question and how it is terrible going through a divorce
Speaker 1: at a young I think it if because I've gone
Speaker 1: through it, I had to fight with this idea of
Speaker 1: I failed at a young age, and though that is devastating,
Speaker 1: there's also an opportunity for you to say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I didn't drag it out thirty forty years and I
Speaker 1: have an opportunity for a fresh start because I want
Speaker 1: to become the best and make the best out of
Speaker 1: the time that I have. And so hopefully that is
Speaker 1: part of what you take away from this episode. I
Speaker 1: left a little piece of the conversation because she started
Speaker 1: talking about letting God take control, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: really unpack what that looks like in practice, because I
Speaker 1: know a lot of us talk about like I just
Speaker 1: want God to be in control, and yet there's a
Speaker 1: responsibility that comes with that, and I want to help
Speaker 1: walk you through that. So let's see who we going
Speaker 1: to rescue on today. This is probably the most random
Speaker 1: story ever, but let's keep it light. Let's take it
Speaker 1: a little let's leave a little light. My suggestion is
Speaker 1: that we rescue Ford. I don't know if you all
Speaker 1: heard this or not. I recently saw it on the news,
Speaker 1: but Ford has a new patent that will allow self
Speaker 1: driving cars to repossess themselves. When I initially heard this.
Speaker 1: I literally text my husband. I was like, I am
Speaker 1: at a stage in my life where I pay my
Speaker 1: car payment on time. But just for this sheer fact
Speaker 1: that I was hiding a car in a garage and
Speaker 1: trying to park in such a way that I could
Speaker 1: not get my car repossessed.
Speaker 4: I refuse to allow them to.
Speaker 1: Let me purchase to make a car that I would
Speaker 1: purchase that could self repossess. First of all, you need
Speaker 1: to trust me. Don't give me the car if you
Speaker 1: don't trust me. If you don't trust me, if I
Speaker 1: want to be a little late, if I need to
Speaker 1: ride Peter to pay Paul, I need you to give
Speaker 1: me that, give me that space to do that.
Speaker 4: You don't try.
Speaker 1: Ford has tracked okay, wait with so wait, I want
Speaker 1: to rescue for this is why we stopped on Rescue
Speaker 1: Eve because it wasn't giving. Yeah, we should rescue Ford
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, we should be
Speaker 1: responsible with the commitments that we make, and we should
Speaker 1: not if we're in a position where we can no longer.
Speaker 1: This is integrity. This is about having integrity, and if
Speaker 1: we are in a position where we can no longer
Speaker 1: make the commitment that we made, we should not still
Speaker 1: benefit from keeping the possessions that we can no longer handle.
Speaker 1: I think we should give them a floaty that they
Speaker 1: have to blow up for themselves.
Speaker 4: That is my suggestion. What is yours?
Speaker 1: Email me podcast at womanevolve dot com. Maybe you can
Speaker 1: drop a comment, you know on the social media, be
Speaker 1: a channel, send me a DM.
Speaker 4: What is your suggestion? Because that's all I got.
Speaker 1: I think we should rescue them because I think if
Speaker 1: you can't pay it, then they should be able to
Speaker 1: get it, and they shouldn't have to wait on you
Speaker 1: to decide whether or not they get it. And this
Speaker 1: will help us to live with integrity and to honor
Speaker 1: what we can and cannot do.
Speaker 4: Lord, that was hard.
Speaker 1: I don't even know why it was hard, because I
Speaker 1: can pay my car payment like GMC gets their money
Speaker 1: from me every single month. But I don't know the
Speaker 1: trauma of not being able and then you just gonna come.
Speaker 4: If I to wake up, you would just drive away
Speaker 4: from me.
Speaker 1: I just feel for the person who is going to
Speaker 1: see their car driving away from isn't my rejection issues?
Speaker 4: I don't. Someone called doctor Anita, how would you? Why
Speaker 4: would my cars just drive away from me? Like that.
Speaker 1: After all we've been through, after all the miles we
Speaker 1: have traversity, you would just drive away from me. Y'all,
Speaker 1: pray for me. You an pray for me. That's my
Speaker 1: attempt at a rescue. You let me know whether or
Speaker 1: not you're agreeing if you send a private jet.
Speaker 4: We gonn have to talk about it.
Speaker 1: But I think we need to give them a floaty
Speaker 1: that they blow up on themselves. We should send them
Speaker 1: a self rescuing card. Make it make sense. Lord, I'll
Speaker 1: come up with the technology, will send it to them.
Speaker 4: I love you. I hope you have an amazing week.
Speaker 1: I pray that there was something about this episode that
Speaker 1: made you feel a little less alone, a lot more known,
Speaker 1: and inspired to grow. I wish I could have said
Speaker 1: something about grown. I'll work on that. A little less alone.
Speaker 1: What I say, a little less alone, a lot more known,
Speaker 1: and something grown. I have it together for next episode.
Speaker 1: Holy Spirit, thank you for being with us, our comforter Man.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about those who are going through transition and
Speaker 1: trying to see God in the midst of it all. God,
Speaker 1: I pray that something happens today that reminds them that
Speaker 1: you see them, you know them. You love them. Transition
Speaker 1: is hard when it comes to relationships. God, I pray
Speaker 1: that in the midst of this transition that you would
Speaker 1: remind those who are listening that sometimes growth feels lonely,
Speaker 1: sometimes obedience can feel devastating, but when it's all said
Speaker 1: and done, that you're going to establish them. I thank
Speaker 1: you for establishing coming to my listeners, establishing coming to me.
Speaker 1: Thank you God forgiving us peace in Jesus' name. Amen,
Speaker 1: I see you next week.