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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
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Speaker 3: want you to know. It is the top of the week,
Speaker 3: almost the end of February. So much weird stuff has
Speaker 3: been going on. West Virginia is prosecuting librarians for some reason.
Speaker 3: Science has a lot of questions about stingrays, body parts,
Speaker 3: just a kimbo, all sorts of strange things in the sky.
Speaker 3: We're thinking we could start off today, gentlemen, with an
Speaker 3: update to Tara Nullies. Remember the episode we did quite
Speaker 3: recently on the quote unquote unclaimed land concept.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh yes, which lands are unclaimed yet maybe
Speaker 2: being claimed?
Speaker 3: Everybody's going after beer tall Will. Doc Holiday is officially
Speaker 3: buyed up Beer to Will to start her micronation, Pete
Speaker 3: and Bazonia. That part is not true, just to be clear,
Speaker 3: we want to thank everybody took time to write in
Speaker 3: on various social media platforms to talk about Antarctica, because
Speaker 3: we received a lot of interest on Antarctica, and it
Speaker 3: appears that some state powers also have a lot of
Speaker 3: interest in Antarctica, namely China and most recently are raw
Speaker 3: That's right, the Iran that is nowhere near Antarctica. They're
Speaker 3: super down. They're super down to expand on the on
Speaker 3: the southernmost continent. Have we ever talked about China in
Speaker 3: Antarctica much lesser rat.
Speaker 4: You mean, talked about China whilst physically in Antarctica. I
Speaker 4: don't think so. But what no, I'm.
Speaker 3: Jump sorry, no, keep it wild nights.
Speaker 2: I think really, I think we've focused on the United States,
Speaker 2: the UH, German, Germany's interest a while back, and just
Speaker 2: some some of the research stations that are going on there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so a bit of background with Antarctica. The
Speaker 3: tricky thing about Antarctica is kind of like it's kind
Speaker 3: of like the Moon. There are seven state powers that
Speaker 3: have made territorial claims on that continent, but there are
Speaker 3: other countries that don't have, you know, geopolitical claims, and
Speaker 3: they are operating in Antitarctica under the guys or the
Speaker 3: auspice of scientific research places like India, Italy, Japan, Pakistan, Russia, China,
Speaker 3: and of course the United States. Because of the treaties
Speaker 3: involving the treaties applied to Antarctica, you can't really lay
Speaker 3: a terra nullius claim like not one that will be
Speaker 3: taken seriously. However, in the global West there, especially in Australia,
Speaker 3: there are increasing concerns about Chinese activity in Antarctica, and
Speaker 3: Matt Nole this reminded me a little bit of our
Speaker 3: conversation in that episode where we were saying, oh, well,
Speaker 3: global temperatures are increasing. The land that is right now
Speaker 3: so desolate, and so barren may become you know, the
Speaker 3: new park place in the Great Monopoly Game of Expansion.
Speaker 3: I don't know West Arctica, man, the dutchy might happen.
Speaker 2: This is this is really cool to me. Okay, So
Speaker 2: that treaty is based on the idea that nobody's going
Speaker 2: to use Antarctica for military stuff, right.
Speaker 3: Nor u mineral exploration or resource extraction. So okay, you
Speaker 3: can go there and you can say, wow, we're learning
Speaker 3: a lot about ice. The same way that you could
Speaker 3: go to say Xinyang and study grass, but nothing else.
Speaker 2: Dude. If we've learned anything from Watchman, okay, and other
Speaker 2: things like that, Antarctica is a great place for frozen waste,
Speaker 2: great place to build some kind of underground research and
Speaker 2: development station for I don't know, uap that in the
Speaker 2: United States military could be developing.
Speaker 4: It's definitely out of the way. This is especially once
Speaker 4: you dig down into the ice. It's mega out of
Speaker 4: the way. Boy.
Speaker 2: I guess what I'm saying is like, any superpower is
Speaker 2: going to know that every other super or middling power
Speaker 2: is going to be keeping eyes on whatever you're doing
Speaker 2: in your territory. Well that's fair if you've got a
Speaker 2: research base that doesn't do military stuff.
Speaker 3: Come on, guys, it's been an ongoing what corporate America
Speaker 3: would call a healthy conversation, but it's been an ongoing
Speaker 3: what the rest of the world would call a beetme
Speaker 3: here dot a being problem for a while because the
Speaker 3: Antarctic Treaty System is a bunch of stuff that came
Speaker 3: on like a series of band aids, right instead of
Speaker 3: sutures for a wound. And as a result of the
Speaker 3: treaty system, there is no military activity. Legally, there is
Speaker 3: no mineral exploration. But what is the line between scientific
Speaker 3: research and you know those things coming to pass? I
Speaker 3: read a really great article from several twenty nineteen from
Speaker 3: ABC dot net Au because Australia probably has the best
Speaker 3: reporting on this right now, and there is some cenophobia,
Speaker 3: there is some fear mongering, but I was not aware
Speaker 3: that there's like a crack team of scientists who travel
Speaker 3: throughout the Arctic, just like Admiral Bird of Old to
Speaker 3: try to make sure that people aren't drilling for resources
Speaker 3: or making super weapons, you know, all his home killers
Speaker 3: and stuff. So shout out to the journalist Jackson goth
Speaker 3: Snape no Dash Snape real name, And shout out to
Speaker 3: the scientist Nicholas Gails, who is in an interview here
Speaker 3: talking about how he and his team have to fly
Speaker 3: over Antarctica constantly on the off chance they catch one
Speaker 3: of these great powers doing something evil. Oh this is,
Speaker 3: by the way, the base that people are worried about
Speaker 3: now is the fifth base China has continent, so they've
Speaker 3: been in the game for a while.
Speaker 2: This one's really close to McMurdo, which is the one
Speaker 2: we probably hear about the most here in the US,
Speaker 2: and it's referenced in all kinds of fiction stories, and
Speaker 2: so I wonder if it's a China trying to make
Speaker 2: sure they have eyes on, right, like close eyes on
Speaker 2: to what's going on there? And then was it the
Speaker 2: United States and New Zealand to the five eyes countries
Speaker 2: that are keeping an eye then on the China base?
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, weirdly enough, Australia is Australia is kicking up
Speaker 3: media about it. But that's the beauty of five eyes, right,
Speaker 3: you can shut a few eyes at a time, so, right,
Speaker 3: so they still have eyes.
Speaker 4: Are still some peeping, Yeah.
Speaker 3: There's still some peeping, just so, and the let's give
Speaker 3: you the specific statements of the Chinese government. This is
Speaker 3: coming to us from George Bunn writing for GBN. The
Speaker 3: headline is trying to open to Antarctic base right next
Speaker 3: to US site as American sphere. It could be used
Speaker 3: for espionage. It's a very diplomatic title, and it's quite accurate.
Speaker 3: I do think they're being a bit generous with the
Speaker 3: idea of fear it could be used.
Speaker 4: Is it a similar situation where like countries who have
Speaker 4: agreed not to do nuclear proliferation and not to you know,
Speaker 4: do nuclear research where they occasionally are asked to be inspected.
Speaker 4: Would it be that kind of situation because of the agreement,
Speaker 4: I guess not to use it for a military that
Speaker 4: people would have to be open to inspection. Or is
Speaker 4: that again kind of another toothless un type measure.
Speaker 3: It is. It is a good comparison. It's a little
Speaker 3: a little more toothless even because there's not you know,
Speaker 3: there's not an I CAN or there's not a global
Speaker 3: like nuclear monitor you know how there's a nuclear monitoring
Speaker 3: authority across the world. Right, there's not quite the same
Speaker 3: thing for antarcticut there are a bunch of very overwork
Speaker 3: to people flying over the like the worst neighborhood.
Speaker 4: Well, the logistics of it seem very prohibitive, just yeah,
Speaker 4: with how just to even get boots on the ground
Speaker 4: to get it done, you know, in terms of like
Speaker 4: an inspection. And then of course, you know, there's what
Speaker 4: we're doing is only vaguely military and it's relatively easy
Speaker 4: to hide perhaps you know, I don't know, I mean, it's.
Speaker 2: But what of the polar bears? How are you going
Speaker 2: to protect yourself if you don't have some kind of
Speaker 2: security measures.
Speaker 3: Polar bears are in the North Pole.
Speaker 2: Oh my bad, I mean giant crabs.
Speaker 3: There we go, Yeah, ice crabs. The penguins, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, No one ever penglings. There's no penguins
Speaker 3: as the first trans medium threat.
Speaker 4: Right, you've seen those guys march. They're terrifying. Come at
Speaker 4: you all on masks, you know, in formation.
Speaker 2: By then they're in the water.
Speaker 3: Little dives.
Speaker 4: No man, look to your left, look to you're right.
Speaker 3: Was there a penguin? That's the question they're asking in Antartan.
Speaker 4: Can't look to your left or right anymore because they've
Speaker 4: been pecked out by directions.
Speaker 3: They're fast, they're fast. Uh, President jimping Uncle Uncle g
Speaker 3: H talked about this is called the chin Ling Research Center,
Speaker 3: and he said this is helping us, the nation of
Speaker 3: China quote ascend the peak of science. And the official
Speaker 3: word is that they are still adhering to the Hodgepodge
Speaker 3: of nineteen sixties.
Speaker 2: Asked treaties really quickly, How do you spell that just
Speaker 2: so we can look.
Speaker 3: At Yeah, thank you, q I N L I n
Speaker 3: G pronuncia. It should be a bit tricky. I certainly
Speaker 3: butchered it. But the yeah you're looking for q I
Speaker 3: n l I n G. It's the newest of its type.
Speaker 3: A spokesperson for the Tendling Stations said, it will quote
Speaker 3: contribute to enhancing humanity's scientific understanding of Antarctica, provide a
Speaker 3: platform for China's listen closely, China's cooperation with other countries
Speaker 3: in the Antarctic scientific exploration, and promote peace and sustainable
Speaker 3: development in Antarctica. So there are a couple of little
Speaker 3: slide ins there. There are a couple of little like
Speaker 3: let's normalize things like development, and let's normalize things like
Speaker 3: sharing information. Bump.
Speaker 2: They're doing it right there. Everybody's getting ready for the
Speaker 2: ice to milk. They're just like everybody's doing it right
Speaker 2: in front of everybody else. And there's like no, no,
Speaker 2: no scientific research. And for the iss, the ice is
Speaker 2: gonna melntain. This is going to be a continent again,
Speaker 2: so we gotta.
Speaker 3: It's like you can smell the pizza and you just
Speaker 3: happen to go into the kitchen and hang out. You're like,
Speaker 3: I have no interest in pizza. I'm just here like
Speaker 3: I just like the kitchen.
Speaker 4: I like that. Let's also not do anything to mid
Speaker 4: agame the ice melting. We're just gonna, you know, make
Speaker 4: plans for the inevitability of it.
Speaker 2: We're just in such a weird place because we all
Speaker 2: know what's coming, we all know what's happening. We're all
Speaker 2: just aware, but we kind of just put our heads
Speaker 2: down and like, ah, what's that pop star doing with
Speaker 2: that football player?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay, I feel better now.
Speaker 3: Right right? Yeah, we do love a face on an issue, right,
Speaker 3: Like how many people only learned about the science or
Speaker 3: the concept of climate change when they saw memes about
Speaker 3: Greta Thumberg. It's tut tut to be quite honest. But
Speaker 3: also Australia, this is something a lot of our fellow
Speaker 3: conspiracy realists wrote to us about. Based in Australia, we're continually,
Speaker 3: by the way, getting a lot of input from people
Speaker 3: who are saying the government there is corrupt, compromised by
Speaker 3: mining oligarchs and by actions of the Chinese nation abroad,
Speaker 3: especially their investment arms and intelligence agencies. I was unaware,
Speaker 3: you guys, Australia has, in their opinion a claim the
Speaker 3: forty two percent of Antarctica. They're saying we're not. They're
Speaker 3: saying we're not going to you know, militarize it. We're
Speaker 3: not going to drill for oil. But forty two percent
Speaker 3: of this is all OZ dude.
Speaker 2: They just made an announcement about a huge military build
Speaker 2: up over the next decade, especially with their navy.
Speaker 3: Ye yeah, yeah, they have to, though they're kind of late,
Speaker 3: if we're being completely brutally honest. Yeah, but yeah, like
Speaker 3: the biggest build up since World War Two? Is that correct?
Speaker 2: That's well, I've read the story and now it's been
Speaker 2: in a couple hours, so I think.
Speaker 3: That's it, So you're you're absolutely right. We'll also want
Speaker 3: to shout out another article that came from The Guardian.
Speaker 3: This was in April of last year. The Guardian, via
Speaker 3: Reuters and so on and so on. Satellite imagery is
Speaker 3: showing the extent of development aims under this new Chinese station.
Speaker 3: It's built odd. First off, the names in Antarctica, except
Speaker 3: for that one sneak disc that guy made against his wife,
Speaker 3: the names in Antarctica are amazing, you guys. They're building
Speaker 3: the Chinese station on a place called Inexpressible Island.
Speaker 4: WHOA. They can't really describe it, though I imagine it's
Speaker 4: it's like an HP Lovecraft monster there it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just love the idea of the person who
Speaker 3: named it or quote unquote discovered it. They were talking to,
Speaker 3: you know, the first mate or something, and I said, wow,
Speaker 3: look at this island. What should we call it?
Speaker 4: And the guy went, is it inexpressible because it's like
Speaker 4: beautiful or it's just kind of unremarkable and there's nothing
Speaker 4: to even grab onto to help describe it. Unclear. We
Speaker 4: have to look further into.
Speaker 3: That unclear, but we do know, we do know. First off,
Speaker 3: we have to say that the idea of building a
Speaker 3: research station in Antarctica is not itself in any way
Speaker 3: inherently sinister. There is important science to be done. There
Speaker 3: are legitimate reasons to have these stations like McMurdo and
Speaker 3: so on. But the idea of five is getting people
Speaker 3: a little a little squirrely. The main concern is that,
Speaker 3: and this is according to washing based think tank, the
Speaker 3: Center for Strategic and International Studies. They've been waving the
Speaker 3: flag about this for a while. They said, this station
Speaker 3: can provide tracking and communications for China's growing array of
Speaker 3: scientific polar observation satellites. It can concurrently be used for
Speaker 3: intercepting other nations satellite communications.
Speaker 4: Speaking of building research stations in frozen tundras for non
Speaker 4: nefarious reasons. Did you guys see the season finale of
Speaker 4: A True Detective.
Speaker 3: I did. I quite enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: I did too. Seems divisive and there were some loose
Speaker 4: ends that maybe would have been nice to have tied up,
Speaker 4: but I did like the twist. No spoilers here, check
Speaker 4: it out. Let us know what you think. Sorry, I
Speaker 4: didn't mean to derail I just I can't help but
Speaker 4: think about I think it's one of the great uses
Speaker 4: of like subarctic kind of research stations where there's sinister
Speaker 4: stuff going on beneath the ice. I did like that
Speaker 4: theme quite a lot, and it's something that whenever we
Speaker 4: talk about this stuff, it's easy for the mind to
Speaker 4: kind of wander in that direction.
Speaker 3: You know, absolutely absolutely, And remember I got pretty close
Speaker 3: a lifetime or two would go to exploring Antarctica for
Speaker 3: those same reasons. It's a it's a mystifying, enigmatic land.
Speaker 3: There is a plot twist speaking of before we move
Speaker 3: to the next story. There is a plot twist we
Speaker 3: should add with expansion in Antarctica. And please again, if
Speaker 3: you haven't checked out our Terra Nullius episode do so
Speaker 3: it is a series of successful conspiracies. Here's the end
Speaker 3: before we before we move on a rod. As we
Speaker 3: tease at the beginning of tonight's program, Aroan has also
Speaker 3: decided that they will establish a permanent station in Antarctica.
Speaker 3: And because of again these this band aid series of treaties,
Speaker 3: they're legally allowed to do so as long as they're
Speaker 3: not mining for stuff or doing quote unquote military activities.
Speaker 4: What about like research into elder gods for the purposes
Speaker 4: of life extension technology.
Speaker 2: That's priority number one.
Speaker 3: Sorry, totally find as long as you don't weaponize it, totally.
Speaker 4: Fin Who's who's to say what canon cannot be weaponized
Speaker 4: or what will and will not be weaponized. Dude, weaponize
Speaker 4: the hell out of eternal life.
Speaker 3: And we said we wouldn't have spoilers, but that this
Speaker 3: is that's.
Speaker 4: Not a spoiler. That's what they that is what it
Speaker 4: was understood to be the purpose of the research that
Speaker 4: the scientists are doing. You find that on episode one,
Speaker 4: So I don't think that accounts as a spoiler.
Speaker 3: So the the idea here for Aroan is at least
Speaker 3: the West is asking can you, guys, actually do this?
Speaker 3: Do you have the the means, the wherewithal too to
Speaker 3: establish a base. Legally, no other state power can stop
Speaker 3: another country from building a legit research station in Antarctica. However,
Speaker 3: they can do everything in their power to prevent folks
Speaker 3: from getting there. And that's the that's the tricky thing, right,
Speaker 3: It's just like a pursuit of happiness in the US.
Speaker 4: But we're just going to stop you every turn, stimy
Speaker 4: or your dreams.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but go for it, you know, good hustle guys.
Speaker 3: So this is something this might be a new beat
Speaker 3: of ours for the show. This is something you need
Speaker 3: to keep your eyes on or your tentacles on. Folks.
Speaker 3: There's a lot to be discovered in Antarctica and there's
Speaker 3: a lot that the world powers have to sort out
Speaker 3: about how they are going to handle this increasingly valuable continent. Now,
Speaker 3: what's going to happen to the life forms unique to
Speaker 3: that land? Well, right now, it's anybody's guess. And speaking
Speaker 3: of guesses, guys, can you guess what time it is.
Speaker 2: Time to jump on the subway? Baby?
Speaker 3: Yes? Technical answer would be three thirty seven pm Eastern,
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Speaker 2: on the subway for real?
Speaker 4: Last time I was there in New York?
Speaker 3: Yeah about a month half ago?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so pretty recently. Okay, I haven't been in gosh years.
Speaker 2: How would you describe it overall? Just your experience on
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Speaker 4: Okay, since I mean it's it always goes where I
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Speaker 4: the streets of New York.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the As an urban planning nerd, the history
Speaker 3: of the subway is amazing, the infrastructure itself is amazing,
Speaker 3: and the maintenance it takes is weird. Now, one thing
Speaker 3: about the subway in New York is it's the great unifier. Right.
Speaker 3: You will see people from the upper echelons. You will
Speaker 3: see people struggling, and they'll sit on the same thing.
Speaker 3: There's something very American about that. There's also amazing street
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Speaker 4: Yeah, unless you have a chopper. It really is the
Speaker 4: only way to get where you're going efficiently because a
Speaker 4: car ain't gonna do it. Chances are you're gonna get
Speaker 4: held up and log jammed.
Speaker 2: I thought you meant one of those motorcycles that has
Speaker 2: you know, a chopper like that has the handles get.
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Speaker 3: There are also a lot of deaths on the subway.
Speaker 3: Just to be clear statistically, right, say, I mean, okay.
Speaker 2: Well, let's go with the story. One of these stories
Speaker 2: we're going to look at right now. Mystery surrounds origin
Speaker 2: of human leg found on New York Subway From the Guardian.
Speaker 2: This is written February twentieth of this year by Edward Hellmore.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna read just a little bit of this, guys,
Speaker 2: because I thought it was amusing and disturbing. Here we go.
Speaker 2: Here are the words of Edward. New York's mass transit
Speaker 2: experience took a grizzly turn last week, as we record,
Speaker 2: when a dismembered leg was found on the Fourth Line
Speaker 2: between one hundred and sixty seventh and one hundred and
Speaker 2: seventieth Streets in the Bronx. Detectives are trying to establish
Speaker 2: who the limb belongs to and how it got on
Speaker 2: a subway trackbed. The city's medical examiner later took possession
Speaker 2: of the leg to find out more about its origins.
Speaker 2: Authorities could not confirm if the leg belonged to a
Speaker 2: man or a woman, or how much of the limb
Speaker 2: was found.
Speaker 3: Wait, so why are they the authorities in this at
Speaker 3: this point? I don't know there's a scientific consensus. Is
Speaker 3: it's a human leg?
Speaker 2: It's a human leg?
Speaker 4: What was it like apped in anything? Was it possible
Speaker 4: that it was a medical transport gone awry.
Speaker 2: We don't know anything about the leg, but just it
Speaker 2: was the fact that it was a headline in the
Speaker 2: Guardian right to somebody in the United Kingdom was just like, Oh,
Speaker 2: but I think this is the reason why I'm so
Speaker 2: curious about the subway system right now. We'd love to
Speaker 2: hear from anybody who just lives in New York and
Speaker 2: uses MTA's services on a regular basis. What is that
Speaker 2: the Metropolitan Transportation Authority. We just want to know what's
Speaker 2: going on, because this article goes on to say, on
Speaker 2: Monday night, that's February nineteenth, a fifty seven year old
Speaker 2: man was found dead in a subway car. And then
Speaker 2: on Saturday, an argument turned violent at the Queen's Plaza
Speaker 2: station and a man was beaten with a metal pipe.
Speaker 2: That attack came two days after a Brazilian tourist was
Speaker 2: slashed across the neck in an unprovoked assault in the
Speaker 2: same subway station.
Speaker 4: And so and then there was a cellist that was
Speaker 4: smashed in the head with a metal water bottle performing
Speaker 4: in the Herald Square.
Speaker 3: Station, playing along at home. That Brazilian tourist is what
Speaker 3: is at the fifteenth and then Saturday is the like
Speaker 3: it also, it feels like it feels like, by the
Speaker 3: way you could write without the leg you could just
Speaker 3: write a story of unfortunate things happening over the span
Speaker 3: of seven to ten days in any major transit system.
Speaker 3: So I do caution the Guardian on that point.
Speaker 2: I completely agree, and I think that's maybe the whole
Speaker 2: point in this article. The New York subway system is massive.
Speaker 2: It's huge, and especially when you compare it to smaller
Speaker 2: outfits like you know, the one we have here Marta.
Speaker 2: In a couple other big cities that I've been to,
Speaker 2: they've got tiny I mean, even if they're large, they've
Speaker 2: got tiny, little little operations compared to the MTA's thing.
Speaker 4: Even Los Angeles. It's a very Marta esque system. It
Speaker 4: only goes very few places, not particularly useful. It's sort
Speaker 4: of a cross, a double cross kind of situation, a
Speaker 4: lot like the yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: And really there's nothing else. Really, there's nothing else more
Speaker 2: to say besides In this article they note that Eric Adams,
Speaker 2: the current Mayor of New York, added one thousand uniformed
Speaker 2: undercover officers to patrol the subway system, which is something
Speaker 2: to keep in mind when you're on there in both
Speaker 2: a good and bad way.
Speaker 3: We have what we do have One important announcement, I
Speaker 3: would add, Bet, have you recently been in New York
Speaker 3: City and lost a leg? If so please do contact
Speaker 3: the MTA. I'm kidding that person probably died. A lot
Speaker 3: of a lot of unhoused people live in a subterraine environment.
Speaker 3: They get hit by the railway.
Speaker 4: Leg Maybe yeah, that's yeah, maybe that is it. I
Speaker 4: do have a friend who lives in New York and
Speaker 4: recently was posting an Instagram story of police doing random
Speaker 4: bag checks at certain stations. And this friend is a
Speaker 4: bit of a what you might call in and our
Speaker 4: guess type individual, So it was very much posted in
Speaker 4: the context of look what the pigs are doing kind
Speaker 4: of you know, but I wonder if that's part of
Speaker 4: this initiative. You know, in the wake of these kind
Speaker 4: of things, they're probably not looking to you know, grab
Speaker 4: your weed or anything. I mean, that's freaking legal there.
Speaker 4: They're probably literally looking for weapons and pipes and you know,
Speaker 4: slash slashable type you know implements.
Speaker 2: Guys, we have I have two more stories I wanted
Speaker 2: to do, We're only gonna have time for one, so uh,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna mention this one super fast. There is an
Speaker 2: old satellite that was built by the European Space Agency
Speaker 2: called the ERS two that stands for Earth Remote Sensing
Speaker 2: satellite and it's the second one of two that were
Speaker 2: built at the same time and launched. It is another
Speaker 2: one of these satellites that has been decommissioned. It has
Speaker 2: been uncontrollable for years now. Things has been about fifteen
Speaker 2: years where that thing has been just orbiting around the Earth.
Speaker 2: Nobody can do anything with it. But the team behind
Speaker 2: the team that was controlling the satellite, when they could
Speaker 2: control it, put it into a lower orbit on purpose.
Speaker 2: So eventually it would just crash into the Earth at
Speaker 2: some point. And at the time it was fifteen years ago,
Speaker 2: they estimated it would be about fifteen years then it
Speaker 2: would crash into the Earth. And as we are recording today, guys,
Speaker 2: that satellite is headed towards Earth on Wednesday, February twenty first,
Speaker 2: and they have no idea, well they have a slight
Speaker 2: idea of where it's going to crash. And all of
Speaker 2: the scientists say, well, the Earth is mostly water, so
Speaker 2: you know, the possibility is that it's going to hit
Speaker 2: water if any of the parts, the constituent parts that
Speaker 2: are made of like carbon fiber, make it through that
Speaker 2: gauntlet that is the atmosphere. Really nice, yeah, but think
Speaker 2: about that, there's satellites above us that are going to
Speaker 2: be crashing back into the Earth, and who knows where
Speaker 2: they're going to land, And it really could. It's like
Speaker 2: winning the lottery five times in a row or something,
Speaker 2: or whatever the crazy probability is. But still that's kind
Speaker 2: of scary.
Speaker 3: I think we're about what we're about like four to
Speaker 3: six hours out from hitting the surface, like from the
Speaker 3: from the rs Ers two hitting the surface right now
Speaker 3: as we record, right, they didn't get sure. They didn't
Speaker 3: get the re entry time right either, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was there was a window of like three
Speaker 2: hours that they were looking at and that would massively
Speaker 2: change the trajectory where it would end up right once
Speaker 2: it hit the atmosphere. Creepy stuff. And the only reason
Speaker 2: I want to bring it up is because space X
Speaker 2: just said that they're going to decommission like a hundred satellites.
Speaker 2: So they're but they're going to do the same thing
Speaker 2: because we at least according to official sources, we don't
Speaker 2: have something like the X thirty seven B or Z
Speaker 2: that can go up there and pull a satellite down
Speaker 2: and then bring it back. They just have to crash
Speaker 2: only way to get them down, or.
Speaker 3: You could you can pop them out of the sky,
Speaker 3: but only if they're yours, because we have treaties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can pop them out the sky, but then
Speaker 2: they create the debris field that ends up not letting
Speaker 2: anyone put any more satellites up there. So you really
Speaker 2: do have to just roll the dice and let them fall.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but hope it hits as close to the point
Speaker 3: nemo as possible. Right, But you're right there on the
Speaker 3: math percentage wise. I mean, it's very dirty like casino
Speaker 3: math to say, well, there's more water, yeah, probably.
Speaker 2: Well, and again it's a it's a huge satellite. You
Speaker 2: can look at pictures of it online, but if you
Speaker 2: do look at it, it is huge. Most of those
Speaker 2: pieces that you can see are going to break up.
Speaker 2: There are some pieces inside, some components that are made
Speaker 2: out of things like carbon fiber that are more likely
Speaker 2: to reach the surface. But that's not the main thing, guys.
Speaker 2: The main thing the guardians over there trashing the MTA
Speaker 2: and New York's subway as system. Well, guess what, there's
Speaker 2: some trash going back to the UK. Sorry, guys, we
Speaker 2: love you. This is just a story we're gonna read.
Speaker 2: This is from BBC News Today. Quote trident missile test
Speaker 2: fails for second time in a row. What is a
Speaker 2: trident missile? Do you guys? Are we aware of a
Speaker 2: trident missile?
Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah, they're the missiles that failed twice in a row.
Speaker 4: I'm picturing them looking like sort of like a Neptune
Speaker 4: trident situation. Yes, with three prongs. I don't know why.
Speaker 4: I mean, here's the name.
Speaker 3: It's the sub right, it's on the subs.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's the missile system, or it's the missile. Let's
Speaker 2: call it the missile system. The nuclear deterrent system that
Speaker 2: is meant to be inside a submarine and then fire
Speaker 2: from the water in like in a magical way, and
Speaker 2: then travel a long distance. I think these are ICBM
Speaker 2: type things or I don't know, it's like that. But
Speaker 2: it's from a ship, a sub and it's supposed to
Speaker 2: have a nuke on it, specifically, that's what it's for.
Speaker 2: It's supposed to nuke things and then it's supposed to
Speaker 2: exist as it deterred to other countries with nukes because
Speaker 2: you never know where the submarine's gonna be with that
Speaker 2: trident missile on it.
Speaker 4: You never know.
Speaker 2: Well, the Royal Navy attempted to fire one of these
Speaker 2: missiles and it did not work. It literally started to fire,
Speaker 2: it went out from the submarine and then just kind
Speaker 2: of crashed like right here from where the submarine was.
Speaker 4: Yikes. That could be dangerous to those on board, right,
Speaker 4: I mean if it detonated.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, But there's in these tests, there is never
Speaker 2: a warhead according to the sources, right, the military. There's
Speaker 2: never a nuke on any of these things. There's just
Speaker 2: the missile itself, right, the missile body. It cost seventeen
Speaker 2: pounds that missile that failed.
Speaker 3: Pound sterling just because I said US dollar earlier.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm going to just here we
Speaker 2: go in a writtence. This is from the article, by
Speaker 2: the way, from the BBC. In a written statement to Parliament,
Speaker 2: Defense Secretary Grants Shapes Shaps, Sahapps confirmed quote and anomaly
Speaker 2: did occur during the test on the thirtieth of January
Speaker 2: this year. But let's see tried. It is quote the
Speaker 2: most reliable weapons system in the world.
Speaker 3: That is true. The US uses it does.
Speaker 2: And the US build well, the US like builds parts
Speaker 2: of it. And then there's a what they share I
Speaker 2: guess the warheads the United States and the United Kingdom's
Speaker 2: really interesting stuff. It freaks me out, guys, because the
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen test that the Royal Navy did also failed,
Speaker 2: and in this instance it was the targeting something within
Speaker 2: the actual missile itself, the smart systems in it. It
Speaker 2: veered way off course. And can you imagine we get
Speaker 2: into a point where we're launching nukes and the nuke
Speaker 2: just malfunctions and goes somewhere else. We're already kind of
Speaker 2: screwed at that if we're in a nuclear war. But
Speaker 2: how is that then a deterrent? If if the enemies
Speaker 2: of a country are the other superpowers that view the
Speaker 2: United States and the United Kingdom as enemies, they see that,
Speaker 2: oh they're triedent systems just messing up lately. Will you
Speaker 2: guys notice that that feels scary to me?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You can read all about this, guys. It's freaky.
Speaker 3: Yeah. There's also it reminds me a little bit. It's
Speaker 3: been a it's been a great year for weird missile experiments.
Speaker 3: The DPRK North Korea is getting a lot of Western
Speaker 3: press because they're continued like missile launches whenever they want
Speaker 3: to come back to the bargaining table, they'll launch a
Speaker 3: bunch of missiles into the ocean just to show that
Speaker 3: they still have the chops, I guess. And recently, it
Speaker 3: reminds me, Matt. Recently some North Korean missiles were used
Speaker 3: by Russia and Ukraine and they were found to contain
Speaker 3: hearts from our friends at NATO and our friends in
Speaker 3: the US. So in that context, right, knowing the way
Speaker 3: this technology proliferates in that context, could argue I'm no
Speaker 3: proof here, but you could argue that it is helpful
Speaker 3: to make a weapon system seem that it is not
Speaker 3: as capable as it is. I don't know, it's weird.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man. The whole psychological pursuit behind that
Speaker 2: thing is to be like, don't mess with us because
Speaker 2: we have this. And the last successful test that the
Speaker 2: UK did with this system was in twenty twelve, so like,
Speaker 2: that's a long time ago. There have been one hundred
Speaker 2: and ninety successful tests of this system, which is a
Speaker 2: lot for a really, really expensive system. But it still
Speaker 2: freaks me out, man, because it feels like if North
Speaker 2: Korea can launch all their missiles, but then we're you know,
Speaker 2: the United Kingdom goes down and says, oh, yes, well
Speaker 2: look at how a missile. It stinks scary. Anyway, that's
Speaker 2: all the news that I've got. Let's take a break
Speaker 2: and we'll be right back with more strange news.
Speaker 4: And we've returned with one more. Why am I talking
Speaker 4: like this? It's okay, I'm just.
Speaker 3: Gonna I think the British stuff we were talking try
Speaker 3: Matt Berry with it, which I appreciate.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I think you're pretty good at it.
Speaker 4: Well, that's very kind of you, Ben, you are as well.
Speaker 4: And this this is sort of a fun maybe is
Speaker 4: the wrong word, but a story of nature finding a way.
Speaker 4: It's very it's very Ian Malcolm kind of story. To
Speaker 4: wrap up today's Trange News episode, Unfortunately, Maddy two Hands
Speaker 4: had to pop off to do some family stuff, so
Speaker 4: we will continue in his honor and in his stead
Speaker 4: with a story about the little sting ray that could. Ben.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if you're familiar with the place in
Speaker 4: North Carolina called the Aquarium and Shark Lab, which is
Speaker 4: on Main Street in downtown Hendersonville.
Speaker 3: Wait, there's a whole lab.
Speaker 4: It says, they've got a shark lab. It's in the
Speaker 4: Appalachian Mountains. They've got themselves a lab of some some.
Speaker 3: We gotta go, we gotta go. That's where Matt must
Speaker 3: have went. Obvious failed secret shark stuff.
Speaker 4: But they house other creatures besides sharks, and that includes Charlotte,
Speaker 4: a rust colored sting ray described by Ben Finley of
Speaker 4: the AP as being no bigger than the size of
Speaker 4: a serving platter. And this thing, Yeah, I know it's
Speaker 4: an interesting but I guess, I guess so. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 4: speaking of the metric system, apparently her natural habitat is
Speaker 4: in the waves off of the coast of South California.
Speaker 4: But she has spent the last eight years of her
Speaker 4: life are actually it's not quite clear, but eight years
Speaker 4: is definitely how long she's been in this particular tank
Speaker 4: with other creatures in this aquarium, including some sharks, but
Speaker 4: no other male stingrays. And yet, and yet, Ben, Charlotte
Speaker 4: finds herself with child, with pups. It's an immaculate stingray conception.
Speaker 3: We chose the wrong religion. We chose the wrong religion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Charlotte is apparently pregnant with as many as four pups,
Speaker 4: according to Brenda Raymer, who is the executive director of
Speaker 4: said aquarium and shark lab in downtown Hendersonville. She had
Speaker 4: a really cheerful thing to say. Here's our girl saying, hey,
Speaker 4: happy Valentine's Day. Let's have some pups.
Speaker 3: Whew, that's wholesome.
Speaker 4: It's wholesome, very wholesome. Speculation has thrived in this particular case.
Speaker 4: Some folks really no no indication as to whether they
Speaker 4: are members of the scientific community or not. Asked at
Speaker 4: the very least, is it possible that Charlotte was impregnated
Speaker 4: by a shark? The answer from the scientific community would
Speaker 4: seem to be unequivocally no, that is not possible. It
Speaker 4: would be the same thing essentially as like a bear
Speaker 4: impregnating a wolf, or like a wolf impregnating a bear,
Speaker 4: because evolutionarily speaking, stingrays diverged from sharks I think in
Speaker 4: the neighborhood of three hundred million years ago, so they're
Speaker 4: just not closely linked enough, you know, genetically speaking, anatomically speaking,
Speaker 4: I don't think it could not be done. So what
Speaker 4: you may ask is the deal. We have some indication
Speaker 4: as to what might have happened. We've heard of spontaneous
Speaker 4: asexual reproduction, right be what was the case? What was
Speaker 4: specifically I think it was with frogs due to things
Speaker 4: in the water. Perhaps there's a fluoridation maybe, or maybe
Speaker 4: that I'm just remembering the Alex Jones line. But what
Speaker 4: was the deal where there was a story we've discussed,
Speaker 4: maybe even more than one, where there was spontaneous asexual
Speaker 4: reproduction in certain species.
Speaker 3: Yeah, primarily that'd be parthenogenesis, right, that'd be primarily female
Speaker 3: instances of different life forms. I want to say, reptiles
Speaker 3: like snakes or water dragons, can they can reproduce without
Speaker 3: necessarily having a male factor in to the thing. But
Speaker 3: I think it's it's primarily like reptiles and fish.
Speaker 4: That seems correct. Yes, that's exactly right. But at least
Speaker 4: that's what I have here. In another piece from Scientific
Speaker 4: America on the subject by Stephanie Pappus, headline, how did
Speaker 4: an aquarium stingray get pregnant without a mate? And Papus
Speaker 4: refers directly to the phenomenon that you are describing, Ben,
Speaker 4: And I'm just gonna read a little quick blurb from
Speaker 4: the article here. Researchers don't fully understand why parthenogenesis happens
Speaker 4: or what triggers it. Here's how the process works inside
Speaker 4: the female's body cell division creates sex cells or gameats.
Speaker 4: That division, called myosis, results in the egg, which can
Speaker 4: eventually be fertilized by a sperm, and three extra cells
Speaker 4: called polar bodies. The egg and each polar body each
Speaker 4: contain half of the complement of genes needed to make
Speaker 4: a new organism. In parthenogenesis, a polar body fuses with
Speaker 4: the unfertilized egg, triggering it to form an embryo. And
Speaker 4: interestingly enough, they go on in this article to say
Speaker 4: to differentiate this is not where my mind immediately went,
Speaker 4: but that this is different than cloning, because I guess
Speaker 4: there is something in common with a process involved in
Speaker 4: at least a theoretical cloning. I know that there is
Speaker 4: there has there have been successful attempts at cloning, but
Speaker 4: I believe it's something like this and it'll say lions.
Speaker 4: Let's see, you know. Katie Lyons, who's a research scientist
Speaker 4: at right here at the Georgia Aquarium, says this it's
Speaker 4: different than cloning, which would create an exact copy of
Speaker 4: the mother ray. However, in parthenogenesis, because both the egg
Speaker 4: and the polar body only have portions of the mother's genome,
Speaker 4: the babies would be less genetically diverse than their mother. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then it goes on talking about how in parthenogenesis,
Speaker 4: some species that experience this phenomenon essentially double their genes
Speaker 4: before they split their sex cells. A great example that
Speaker 4: you alluded to earlier been whippedtail lizards, which belong to
Speaker 4: the genus aspid aspidoscolis. They they actually do reproduce in
Speaker 4: this way with great success.
Speaker 3: Okay, if I'm recalling correctly, Noll, the the process of
Speaker 3: arthnogenesis occurs with life forms that are female and the
Speaker 3: progeny they have are also female. Is that right?
Speaker 4: I think that's right. I'm not quite sure of the
Speaker 4: sex component of it. But one thing that I think
Speaker 4: we've been sort of tiptoing around, or at least in
Speaker 4: some of these excerpts, you might be thinking, this sounds
Speaker 4: a whole lot like a form of inbreeding, and boy,
Speaker 4: is it in fact that thing lions. The researcher from
Speaker 4: Georgia Aquarium very diplomatically says how some offspring that result
Speaker 4: from this process might not be as robust.
Speaker 3: Oh No, they might be hapsburgen.
Speaker 4: They might be a little habsburg y. And she goes
Speaker 4: on to say, you can think of them as a
Speaker 4: highly inbred individual.
Speaker 3: I don't love that. But there's also there's also like, Okay,
Speaker 3: we know that this is not for any for any
Speaker 3: of these higher order species. We know this is not
Speaker 3: the normal path of reproduction, right, this is still an
Speaker 3: unusual thing to happen.
Speaker 4: It would appear, so yeah, you know, again, a lot
Speaker 4: of questions circulating immediately when something like this does take place.
Speaker 4: The pregnancy was confirmed by ultrasound, it's not exactly in
Speaker 4: the press release that uh, you know, the sting ray
Speaker 4: spontaneously pregnant, likely to give birth to highly deformed, inbred offspring.
Speaker 4: They're leaning seemingly leaning away from that, emphasizing the Valentine's
Speaker 4: Day ness of it all, which I can I can
Speaker 4: get behind. And again, I don't think it's necessarily a
Speaker 4: sure thing that there's going to be problems with the offspring.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's what the researchers are saying. It
Speaker 4: does appear, however, that this is something that could cause
Speaker 4: a problem. But one one final thing to add the
Speaker 4: lions adds to maybe again lean away from the inbreeding
Speaker 4: aspect a little bit, is that even under the best circumstances,
Speaker 4: the most quote unquote normal circumstances. The way stingrays produce
Speaker 4: is already pretty unusual. Apparently, female sting rays mate with
Speaker 4: multiple males in the spring, and then three to four
Speaker 4: months later will give birth to pups that have multiple fathers.
Speaker 3: How chimeric?
Speaker 4: Wow, I know, isn't that wild? It says, it says,
Speaker 4: and they I'm just going to quote verticle because I can.
Speaker 4: I couldn't possibly paraphrase this any better. And they bathe
Speaker 4: their fetuses and a kind of nutritious uterine fluid not
Speaker 4: unlike mammal milk that gives them a survival boost when
Speaker 4: they emerge.
Speaker 3: Fascinating. Have you ever have you ever petted or pet
Speaker 3: I guess would be the past as stingray.
Speaker 4: With two fingers two in the touch in the touch tank,
Speaker 4: they tell you you know what, and they can you know,
Speaker 4: they got sting in their name, because they can. They
Speaker 4: can mess you up if you get hit by one.
Speaker 4: And in the ocean I have there was One of
Speaker 4: these articles actually referred to something called the stingray shuffle,
Speaker 4: which is like how you're supposed to kind of traverse
Speaker 4: the shallower waters, you know, because it's to help you
Speaker 4: maybe prevent a sting because those things that are those
Speaker 4: barbed tails can be very very painful and confused with
Speaker 4: the jellyfish of course, or a Portuguese man o war.
Speaker 4: This is right, this is different. Everybody knows that.
Speaker 3: Sorry you're stating we need we need to say that
Speaker 3: stuff though, because as soon as as soon as our
Speaker 3: fellow conspiracy realist heard us mentioned stingrays, they immediately thought
Speaker 3: about the death of Steve Verwood in two thousand and six.
Speaker 4: That's right, it like got because you know, I mean
Speaker 4: of I don't know that he was in Australia when
Speaker 4: he met his unfortunate early end. But they can get
Speaker 4: very very large, obviously, like we described this species of
Speaker 4: sting ray as getting to be about the size of
Speaker 4: a dinner plate, and the babies apparently are about the
Speaker 4: size of a baseball, the diameter of a baseball. But
Speaker 4: we know certain some species of sting ray can get
Speaker 4: quite large. And Steve Irwin, unfortunately, you know, was stabbed
Speaker 4: more or less like in the heart. This is my understanding,
Speaker 4: I mean, a really dramatic end to really beloved human.
Speaker 4: You know, I think we're all we're all fans of
Speaker 4: his uh his nature presenting.
Speaker 3: And such a rare way to go as well. Like
Speaker 3: the the stingray, as we always say in any conversation
Speaker 3: about wildlife, the stingray is not out to get you. Uh.
Speaker 3: It's part of the shuffle is that if the stingray
Speaker 3: senses you, it will go away. Like that's exactly right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's also you know, similar to bees for the most part,
Speaker 4: aren't going to come after you. But if you happen
Speaker 4: to touch one, even after they've died, it just has this
Speaker 4: like automatic reaction where it'll it'll it'll get you. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 4: be careful, be shuffle shuffle, shuffle around out there, folks.
Speaker 4: It's cute looking too. It's a little old man shuffle
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: There. It is what I loved about him all those
Speaker 3: years ago was his his unique gait, his careful shuffle.
Speaker 4: His sting rays shuffle. It also sounds like kind of
Speaker 4: like it could be like a like a surf rock
Speaker 4: kind of dancey shuffle them the swim.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So shout out to the beach boys as well.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's one thing you know, from the sources
Speaker 3: that you pointed us to here that stands out for me. Uh,
Speaker 3: some of the folks reporting on this, some of the
Speaker 3: experts are saying that parthenogenesis is a reaction to adverse
Speaker 3: environmental pressures. Right, So is a posture finds away, nature
Speaker 3: finds a way. Is it possible then, that that humans
Speaker 3: could see more instances of parthenogenesis in the wild.
Speaker 4: I certainly imagine that it's possible, And I wonder if,
Speaker 4: you know, biologically speaking, it could be considered an adverse
Speaker 4: situation to be without a mate for that long, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like if you don't, like, you know,
Speaker 4: a creature wants to reproduce, that's sort of what it's
Speaker 4: screaming out to do. That's what life wants is to
Speaker 4: make more life. And I could imagine much like the
Speaker 4: Jurassic Park dinosaurs who are all bred to be female,
Speaker 4: they wanted real bad to reproduce, and they apparently spontaneously
Speaker 4: were able to do so based on some very science
Speaker 4: fiction y science you know. I know, Crichton is pretty
Speaker 4: well known for putting the work in you know, into
Speaker 4: his sciencey stuff in his books. But I do recall
Speaker 4: when the movie came out that there was a lot
Speaker 4: of poo pooing of like, you know, I don't think
Speaker 4: this will exactly happen.
Speaker 3: Oh, right, let's get mad at the fictional story. Yeah,
Speaker 3: let's get back Yeah, whatever, guys. Also, partner genesis is
Speaker 3: a real thing. There is true scientific fact behind it.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of implications about it that we
Speaker 3: don't fully understand. But I have to ask, do you
Speaker 3: think this Stingray was playing Roy Orbison's Only the Lonely.
Speaker 4: I'm a little more partial to cry in myself, but Crow, Yeah,
Speaker 4: they're both. They both play in the situation. I would
Speaker 4: like to think, so, Ben, Well, hopefully doing the Stingray show,
Speaker 4: there we go.
Speaker 3: What say we make a mixtape for our Stingray the
Speaker 3: new single mom there in what was it? Hendersonville?
Speaker 4: Hendersonville, North Carolina?
Speaker 3: And with this we want to hear from you, fellow
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Speaker 4: Any hot takes on that list.
Speaker 3: They got some hot they got some hot takes. They
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Speaker 4: I'd love to hear Max weigh in on that, because
Speaker 4: he's probably got his He's got his own presidential rankings
Speaker 4: for sure.
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