Speaker 1: M.
Speaker 2: Danielle will appreciate this. I love I love anything.
Speaker 3: So that's nice to set it up that I'm gonna
Speaker 3: hate it already.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: No, So my friend had dinner with Charlotte Wells, who
Speaker 1: directed Aftersun. Yes, and I haven't talked to her yet.
Speaker 1: But my friend was so nervous because it was like
Speaker 1: her favorite favorite movie.
Speaker 2: And she was like, and she never meet your heros.
Speaker 1: Exactly, She like completely fangirled out, like met her at
Speaker 1: some party and then like was is working in New
Speaker 1: York right now?
Speaker 2: And was like, I'm gonna I'm gonna track her down.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know, And this is a friend who
Speaker 1: should not be nervous about like this, This is a
Speaker 1: This is a very successful.
Speaker 2: Tellus who the friend is?
Speaker 1: Why are you being Tom Cruise my friends? Tom?
Speaker 2: Okay, I knew you were. Why you're hiding it? So Tom,
Speaker 2: is you know.
Speaker 4: You guys are in scientology together, you're the most you're
Speaker 4: the most likely to be a scientologist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is my friend.
Speaker 1: No, but but she but she was so nervous and
Speaker 1: then you're.
Speaker 2: Like we were like texting. I was like, how to
Speaker 2: go You're really not going to tell us who you're friend. No,
Speaker 2: I don't want to, don't you know? No, it's not important.
Speaker 1: The point that the important part is she was so
Speaker 1: nervous about, you know, meeting her hero like meeting somebody who,
Speaker 1: and so got me thinking about the times when I've
Speaker 1: I think I've brought most of them up on the
Speaker 1: show that I've lost the ability to speak when meeting somebody.
Speaker 1: Stacy Keenan, right, yes, right, Uh, I'm and Richard Dreyfus
Speaker 1: for you, Daniel for me.
Speaker 2: I had to I wanted to.
Speaker 1: Know, have you guys, Okay, let me put it this way,
Speaker 1: have you had an awkward encounter with somebody that you
Speaker 1: just because you were such a huge fan, or is
Speaker 1: there somebody who you know you would be awful if
Speaker 1: you actually ever met them, like you would just lose
Speaker 1: the ability to speak or have a horrible time.
Speaker 5: Definitely.
Speaker 3: First of all, the way you started this conversation for me,
Speaker 3: you might as well have said, hey, my friend Race,
Speaker 3: you know my friend met Ray Shrewsbury, director of Tingle House,
Speaker 3: Like I didn't know anything of the Pingle House or
Speaker 3: whatever you're talking about nominated and that meant.
Speaker 4: You need wait, well you've heard writer and I talk
Speaker 4: about Aftersun.
Speaker 2: It's the movie that then when writer told me, oh,
Speaker 2: you guys cried for like a Yes, we cried for
Speaker 2: like a week after it. And by the way, it
Speaker 2: was so funny.
Speaker 5: The best felt the same thing with him.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't see a lot of movies, and
Speaker 4: when when I do, it's because Jensen has usually very
Speaker 4: like He's very good at curating what he thinks I'm
Speaker 4: gonna like. And as you know, I think I've talked
Speaker 4: about it. I can tell whether or not I'm going
Speaker 4: a movie is going to be good by one just
Speaker 4: the billboard, the photo they pick. I can tell you
Speaker 4: whether or not it's a good movie.
Speaker 5: You are literally judging a book by its cover.
Speaker 2: I like it, and I'm great at it.
Speaker 4: There was one time he said to me this He's
Speaker 4: He's like, we're gonna go see this movie. It has
Speaker 4: like ninety seven percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Everyone loves it.
Speaker 4: A friend of ours is someone we like, not a
Speaker 4: friend adjacent is in it. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 4: I think you're going to love it. And we got
Speaker 4: there and in the first five minutes I said, this
Speaker 4: movie is going to be horrible, and he was like, no,
Speaker 4: it's not. I promise you it's not. And it was horrible.
Speaker 4: We ended up having a great time in it. I
Speaker 4: don't remember the name of it.
Speaker 2: Because I don't remember a single thing about the movie.
Speaker 2: It was called.
Speaker 1: Searching, Searching, Looking, Finding, Finding. You're the one where the
Speaker 1: guy lost his daughter.
Speaker 2: Familiar Johnson said, yes, yes, yes, it's all. That's a
Speaker 2: great little movie. How could you do that?
Speaker 4: We had a great We had a great time in
Speaker 4: the movie, but it was because the whole theater was
Speaker 4: kind of like laughing with it and pointing out problems
Speaker 4: and being like.
Speaker 2: What what is it?
Speaker 4: So we ended up enjoying the movie going experience, but
Speaker 4: didn't love the movie anyway.
Speaker 2: How did we gets on that topic?
Speaker 5: Oh, the celebrities, But I mean mine again, my super
Speaker 5: easy Alan.
Speaker 2: You never met him. If you did, you would fall apart.
Speaker 5: Right, Michael J. Fox.
Speaker 3: I've now met a couple of times, but I still
Speaker 3: would probably be a little bit tongue tied. And I
Speaker 3: was that way with buzz Aldrin when I when I'm
Speaker 3: when I met buzz Aldron.
Speaker 5: Like, there's twelve people in the history of the world,
Speaker 5: did you walk?
Speaker 3: I met buzz Aldrin at a Disney event because he
Speaker 3: was the inspiration for buzz light Year, so he was
Speaker 3: there at one thing. And I've only asked for autographs
Speaker 3: from two people in my entire life, and one was
Speaker 3: buzz Aldrin, the other was Tony Hawk. Tony Hawk signed
Speaker 3: my my Tony Hawk CD, my game Tony Hawk.
Speaker 1: I never would have guessed that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was a huge.
Speaker 3: Fan of Tony Hawk video all the time, so I
Speaker 3: brought my video game and then I got to One
Speaker 3: of the coolest things was I then did Tony Hawk
Speaker 3: American Wasteland. I was the voice of the quote unquote
Speaker 3: you care so everybody who could build the character to
Speaker 3: look like how they wanted it.
Speaker 5: Was it was my voice.
Speaker 2: That's so cool.
Speaker 3: When I finished, the guy who was coordinate and said,
Speaker 3: do you realize you're literally the only person in the
Speaker 3: world that can make the avatar look like you?
Speaker 5: And it's you're you're playing the Tony Hawks.
Speaker 3: So it was it was very very cool. So that
Speaker 3: those are my answers that that, yeah, that's who I would.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen the video of buzz Aldron punching
Speaker 2: that guy?
Speaker 5: Great, great video, awesome have you seen I'm just not
Speaker 5: taking it. It's like, I'm not even gonna discuss this
Speaker 5: with you.
Speaker 2: So this moon moon landing conspiracy theorist approaches buzz Aldront
Speaker 2: and just.
Speaker 1: Like, admit it, you didn't go to the moon. But
Speaker 1: like what he like harasses the poor guy.
Speaker 2: Buzz al is old, yeah, very nice guy.
Speaker 1: And like you could see him like trying to avoid
Speaker 1: this guy, and this guy is like cracking him down,
Speaker 1: following him through a hotel lobby and then buzz altered
Speaker 1: and he just find what does he call He calls
Speaker 1: him a coward. That's what he calls balls a buzz
Speaker 1: Aldron a coward and buzz Aldrin boom right in the mouth.
Speaker 1: Is it's so a deense You're like, oh god, you're
Speaker 1: like this seventy five year old dude just took this
Speaker 1: other guy out.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 4: Not not not actors or directors. Musicians I have, Like
Speaker 4: I have some musicians that that I would you know,
Speaker 4: you guys know.
Speaker 5: These musicians I would, I would know the names?
Speaker 2: Will what you would? You would?
Speaker 4: Because most of them are hip hop artists and you're
Speaker 4: a big hip hop guy hip hop I know. I
Speaker 4: mean you did name at least four of the Wu
Speaker 4: Tang members and.
Speaker 2: I was impressed with you most of the klan you had.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so like I did meet doctor Dre once
Speaker 4: and that was doctor I know that was that was
Speaker 4: really cool. I still have not met Lil Wayne, and
Speaker 4: I love Wayne. I would probably I don't know that
Speaker 4: I would be speechless, but it would be like it
Speaker 4: would be one of those moments where I would regularly
Speaker 4: have to remind myself, like this is actually happening right now?
Speaker 2: Is there? I'm sorry, is there just a Wayne?
Speaker 1: No, they're all litl Okay. I was curious if there's
Speaker 1: a big or just a regular size.
Speaker 3: Wayne, and then there's a littl Wayne, like Wayne Junior,
Speaker 3: without there being a Wayne.
Speaker 2: Big Wayne, mid Wayne, Lil Wayne.
Speaker 5: Okay, go Ja.
Speaker 2: Tara just said you went home early in Vegas and
Speaker 2: missed Wayne. Yeah, because I need my sleep.
Speaker 5: That's what's more important.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think basically based on knowing that about me,
Speaker 4: you understand that not really, there aren't really too many
Speaker 4: people I would go out of my way.
Speaker 5: You're speechless with your pillow every night. That's what you love. Yes,
Speaker 5: totally speechless love it.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Pod meets World. I'm Danielle Fischel.
Speaker 5: I'm right or Strong, and I'm Wilfordell. Here is a
Speaker 5: big Pod Meets World tour announcement.
Speaker 4: The three shows that we had to postpone at the
Speaker 4: end of last year because one of us caught COVID rude, they.
Speaker 1: Have brand new dates. We are so high to be
Speaker 1: making good on these shows and coming to say hello
Speaker 1: to you listeners.
Speaker 4: And really thank you for being so patient while we
Speaker 4: work this out.
Speaker 5: So we will be in Durham, North Carolina at the
Speaker 5: Carolina Theater on June nineteenth.
Speaker 1: Then Atlanta at the Tabernacle on June twentieth.
Speaker 4: And finally in the Big Easy, New Orleans on Friday night,
Speaker 4: June twenty first, at the Civic Theater, which is our
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Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 4: Today's recap is season four, episode nine, sixteen Candles and
Speaker 4: four hundred pound Men. It originally aired November fifteenth, nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety six. The synopsis is that Corey and Shawn try
Speaker 4: to help Frankie with his father's wrestling match while also
Speaker 4: simultaneously attending to Pega's sixteenth birthday party. It was directed
Speaker 4: by Jeff McCracken. It was written by Matthew Nelson, which
Speaker 4: is shocking to me that this was not a Mark
Speaker 4: Bluman script.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like one that he probably pitched, because
Speaker 3: I think the reason this happened is because he was
Speaker 3: really good friends with somebody. But Blutman, Yeah, really good
Speaker 3: friends with somebody at the WWA.
Speaker 1: Usually all the wrestling stuff as butt mean, Yes, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: You're right, it was like Matt Nelson. This is kind
Speaker 2: of a.
Speaker 1: Departure for Yeah, it also kind of doesn't feel like
Speaker 1: of Matt Nelson.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was, but you're right, I met it was
Speaker 4: a I think this year Mark Bluman and Buskang were
Speaker 4: kind of helping to run the broom and so it's
Speaker 4: possible they pitched this idea and gate and it ended
Speaker 4: up being a Matt Nelson script.
Speaker 1: Well, considering they wrote like fifteen scripts and C two
Speaker 1: three three, Like, yeah, they were writing so much. I
Speaker 1: have a feeling, you know, and I also remember, like
Speaker 1: you know, everybody, especially because it wasn't their show, right
Speaker 1: boy Me Towards wasn't their show, They were probably looking
Speaker 1: for other jobs, you know, like everybody always had one
Speaker 1: foot out the door of like how long is this
Speaker 1: show gonna last? Can I use this to get, you know,
Speaker 1: another gig, And they probably wanted to create.
Speaker 2: Their own shows, which you know they went on to do.
Speaker 2: Were they helping on any of Michael's other shows?
Speaker 5: I know he would bring people to other stuff. Did they?
Speaker 1: I don't think Bluman and bus Gang were no, because
Speaker 1: I know Sherman went to do You Wish? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I think Bludman and bus Gang were no. I feel
Speaker 1: like and I feel like Mark talked about this, like
Speaker 1: wanting to do more grown up shows like feeling pigeonholed
Speaker 1: and kids television at the time and how now he
Speaker 1: thinks that that's kind of ridiculous, but at the time
Speaker 1: he felt the desire, So I think he and bus
Speaker 1: Gang were trying to get onto like adult shows.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would make sense. So a guest stars Ethan
Speaker 4: Supper returning is Frankie Stachino. Leon White aka Big Bad
Speaker 4: Vader is back as Frankie Stacchino Senior. E j De
Speaker 4: Lapagna is also back as Little Hermann Stacchino, and the
Speaker 4: legendary Jake Roberts plays himself. He was WWF superstar Jake
Speaker 4: the Snake Roberts, who after years of personal struggles and battles,
Speaker 4: is back in wrestling at all Elite.
Speaker 2: Wrestling as a manager.
Speaker 5: That's cool.
Speaker 4: And then WWF producer and writer Bruce Pritchard appears as
Speaker 4: brother Love and announcer. He is still at the now
Speaker 4: named WWE as a head executive in creative.
Speaker 5: That might be Blutman's friend.
Speaker 2: Yes it is.
Speaker 5: Bruce.
Speaker 4: Pritchard and Mark know each other very well, okay, And
Speaker 4: he's Bruce's a great guy from everything I've heard, people
Speaker 4: really like him.
Speaker 2: And Earl Hebner is the referee.
Speaker 4: He's the most legendary of WWE referees from the eighties
Speaker 4: and nineties and he is now retired.
Speaker 2: So what were your all overall thoughts on the episode.
Speaker 5: Do you want me to start?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 3: This was an interesting episode for me because it was
Speaker 3: really fun to sit back and watch one that I.
Speaker 1: Wasn't in because I got it in a single scene. No, no,
Speaker 1: they we weren't in this episode.
Speaker 3: The family had nothing to do with the episode, so
Speaker 3: it was fun to sit back and just kind of
Speaker 3: let it wash over me.
Speaker 5: I obviously wasn't there, so I have no memories of
Speaker 5: the week. I just got to watch the off. Yeah Michael,
Speaker 5: Oh no, I know I did, because.
Speaker 3: This this happened four or five times maybe, and Michael
Speaker 3: would always come over to me and go, hey, come here,
Speaker 3: come here.
Speaker 5: We wrote the script next week, You're not in it.
Speaker 5: You got a vacation. See it two weeks and I go, oh, okay,
Speaker 5: and now and that was it. I'd see you in
Speaker 5: two weeks.
Speaker 1: Wow. So it was fun. And again it's absurd. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but it
Speaker 1: was really nice to see Corey driving the story again.
Speaker 3: Uh you know, Danielle, you're adorable and your sweet sixteen
Speaker 3: outfit and everything going.
Speaker 2: So it was I had fun again.
Speaker 3: I think I was so able to dissect myself from
Speaker 3: the episode because I wasn't in it that. I was
Speaker 3: just watching a wacky nineties episode of TV that I'm
Speaker 3: not sure I've ever seen before.
Speaker 2: Don't you kind of wish Eric was in it?
Speaker 1: Though, No, I think it was Eric.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it was just I think it was I
Speaker 1: think again, they're they're rotating the Matthews.
Speaker 3: Living room now with everybody else's living room, so we
Speaker 3: get Sean's living room and now we're getting Vader's living room.
Speaker 3: So it's you know, I get what they're doing, and
Speaker 3: I'm now.
Speaker 5: Just allowing it to happen. You know, it's like wash
Speaker 5: over me, crazy wrestling thing.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna forget all the stuff that doesn't make any sense,
Speaker 3: and I just sit there and kind of watch you
Speaker 3: guys play. And I also know all the stories that
Speaker 3: you've told me about how crazy it was, so I'm
Speaker 3: like pointing things out to Sue as or watch like oh,
Speaker 3: they were all yelling like yeah, So.
Speaker 5: That was fun for me.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it was an enjoyable twenty two
Speaker 1: minutes writer. Not for me, Yeah enough for me. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I think similar to to Disney World, it's
Speaker 1: it's larger than life, right. It has this quality about
Speaker 1: it that makes it super memorable, like the fact that
Speaker 1: we're wrestling in the ring, the like I think the
Speaker 1: Flintstones thing is funny like that.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: Scene, but I guess I guess, like especially coming off
Speaker 1: of the absurdity of the.
Speaker 2: Like the what was the hospital episode? A couple episodes
Speaker 2: backed out in the hospital there was.
Speaker 1: Something just genuinely funny, like in Beat for Beat in
Speaker 1: that one that was like, even though it's absurd, I'm laughing,
Speaker 1: this one just wasn't super funny, and it also didn't
Speaker 1: have like it kept trying for heart, but it didn't
Speaker 1: quite land for me, like between Vader and his son,
Speaker 1: like I was like, oh, yeah, I see where this
Speaker 1: is going and and I guess it kind of wraps
Speaker 1: it up.
Speaker 2: But it didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know, none, none of the actual like scenes
Speaker 1: landed for me. So it ends up being like a
Speaker 1: whole big set piece episode, which yes, is a big
Speaker 1: set beast episode, and we can forgive it all its things,
Speaker 1: but actually I'm like, no, I think they could have
Speaker 1: used a rewrite and a little more I could have
Speaker 1: been better, Like I don't know, there's just could have
Speaker 1: been some stuff going on, like it just it was
Speaker 1: kind of me for me. So it's a little bit
Speaker 1: of a bummer because I know, I'm sure people there
Speaker 1: are some people for whom this is their favorite episode,
Speaker 1: but I think it's just like the Disney World episode.
Speaker 1: It's mostly because of the set piece, like it's so
Speaker 1: great and like you know, the idea of like Corey
Speaker 1: and Tapanga dancing in the ring, like.
Speaker 2: That's so cool.
Speaker 1: But when I actually watched that scene, especially the tag,
Speaker 1: I'm like, ugh, something's awkward, something's off. It's not landing
Speaker 1: for me. So unfortunately, no, I'm a no on this episode.
Speaker 4: That's a no for me dog as a as a
Speaker 4: wrestling fan and as somebody who has you know, participated
Speaker 4: in wrestling events and all that stuff. I see why
Speaker 4: this episode lands and really resonates with people who are
Speaker 4: also wrestling fans, because, like you said, the set piece
Speaker 4: of it all is so incredible, and to see Corey
Speaker 4: and Sean and Frankie in a real arena and to
Speaker 4: see the real fans the kind of background you could
Speaker 4: never pay for. It would never look like that, no
Speaker 4: matter if it were, if it had been done to
Speaker 4: try and look real. It never would have looked like that,
Speaker 4: so to see it really happening. And the fact that
Speaker 4: we used some WWF footage like that opening shot is
Speaker 4: like their cameras, not even our footage, So like that's
Speaker 4: all crazy and super cool. As far as it being
Speaker 4: an episode of boy Meet's World. For me, exactly what
Speaker 4: you said was missing is the actual heart we have
Speaker 4: to fall into very quickly, the conceit that Frankie's in
Speaker 4: love with his dad and his dad doesn't really love him,
Speaker 4: and we have to care about that very much, even
Speaker 4: though we just learned it.
Speaker 2: And to be honest, in a lot.
Speaker 4: Of ways, Frankie's dad is very open and recce to things.
Speaker 4: Frankie says right off the bat, and don't I don't
Speaker 4: really see I don't really feel.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know anyway. I didn't really buy that
Speaker 2: a whole lot.
Speaker 4: And then Corey doesn't really care too much about Tapanga
Speaker 4: Sweet sixteen. He doesn't care about being there, he doesn't
Speaker 4: care really about the dance. He does only because he
Speaker 4: knows it's important to her, and even then he's trying
Speaker 4: to find other ways to fit other It's just what
Speaker 4: was missing in that last scene is a real sense
Speaker 4: of oh man, that's so sweet.
Speaker 2: I didn't feel that way. I just felt right all right.
Speaker 2: Had she had the I guess the guy.
Speaker 3: Only caring because the girl cares is a very real
Speaker 3: thing that happens all where.
Speaker 5: It's just like, I don't care about this at all,
Speaker 5: but it's important to.
Speaker 2: Her, right.
Speaker 1: But what would have been nice is if it does
Speaker 1: end up meaning something for Corey, right, like all of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because even just hearing you give that synopsis, I was thinking, like, wow,
Speaker 1: Vader never like he never adjusts his approach to his son.
Speaker 1: He just his Frankie just gives him what he wants.
Speaker 1: Frankie cares about wrestling, and he doesn't, like ever care
Speaker 1: about poetry or regrets.
Speaker 5: Arent.
Speaker 4: We know it's your job as a parent, period to
Speaker 4: try and connect to your children about the things that
Speaker 4: interest them. It is never their job to connect with
Speaker 4: you about the things that mean something to you.
Speaker 2: And that would have been a nice little twist if
Speaker 2: he was like I don't care about you.
Speaker 4: Know, or if somehow something from poetry helps give his dad.
Speaker 1: That's what I kept waiting for.
Speaker 4: I kept waiting for there to be something that Dad
Speaker 4: the reason I did. This is because of a poem
Speaker 4: that I learned, something I learned in a b.
Speaker 1: At the side of the he had just recited a
Speaker 1: poem or to inspire his dad or said something and
Speaker 1: his dad said, that was so poetic.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go win now. And it doesn't. I
Speaker 2: was like waiting for the line.
Speaker 5: You're waiting for the rage against the dying of the light.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean the episode opened with a poem.
Speaker 1: You kind of think it's going to come back around,
Speaker 1: but yeah.
Speaker 4: All right, well there you go. So jumping into our recap,
Speaker 4: he start in Turner's classroom. Corey's at the front of
Speaker 4: the class, passionately reading poetry.
Speaker 2: Do you guys, is this a poem that Corey wrote? No,
Speaker 2: he's reading from a book. What is he read? I
Speaker 2: actually didn't. We didn't look it up. No, I don't
Speaker 2: know what it is and it made me It made
Speaker 2: me f but I didn't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is, and they don't mention it.
Speaker 4: And it's not on the boat board. It just says
Speaker 4: like on the back like poetry reading and poetry, poetry
Speaker 4: reading poetry And you guys noticed hair, Oh yeah, fresh
Speaker 4: new haircut rest the bullet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, remember, because he had to go get another draft.
Speaker 3: He was go getting other jobs and trying to audition,
Speaker 3: so he had to cut off all his hair. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the first thing I saw, and I noticed that. It
Speaker 3: was like, oh, that's right. Now, Tony knows he wasn't
Speaker 3: part of the.
Speaker 4: Show exactly, so sad so uh. Mister Turner applauds Corey's
Speaker 4: reading and then yells over to Sean, and it's revealed
Speaker 4: that he's splayed across two desks.
Speaker 2: Fast asleep.
Speaker 4: Turner tries to wake him up, and Sean responds, I
Speaker 4: don't want to go to school, daddy, Corey's reading poetry.
Speaker 4: Turner yells back, you get your butt out of that
Speaker 4: bed and get to class. Sean springs up and walks
Speaker 4: out of the classroom. Frankie says he found himself very
Speaker 4: moved by Corey's piece, and Corey he returns the compliment
Speaker 4: with a little salute and a hey. Frankie continues, Sometimes
Speaker 4: we love, and though it seems the object of our
Speaker 4: love is within reach, it does not reciprocate, and so
Speaker 4: we must keep reaching. Corey is shocked, it's not about
Speaker 4: a doggy. The Pega puts her finger on Corey's mouth
Speaker 4: to shush him.
Speaker 2: Honey, don't speak, Okay, so hold on.
Speaker 1: First of all, I was like, why is Frankie in
Speaker 1: class with him?
Speaker 5: That made no sense. He's been thirteen years.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, Eric is graduated.
Speaker 1: Yes, and it's just poetry class, Like when I think
Speaker 1: it's English and they're doing poetry reads in English. Frankie
Speaker 1: is like three grades ahead of them at least.
Speaker 3: But I think maybe they're alluding to the fact that
Speaker 3: he's not that he's been a junior for six years
Speaker 3: kind of thing, right, everybody else, even Harley, Well he
Speaker 3: flunked out, but Joey's gone, so.
Speaker 2: He went to the reform school or whatever. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so yeah, to set this.
Speaker 1: Up, it's like you know, and of course Sean being
Speaker 1: like anti poetry and like over it.
Speaker 2: I was like, come on, this is.
Speaker 1: Gonna be a thing.
Speaker 2: Why are we? Yeah, our show.
Speaker 4: Was very Yeah, the continuity in this area, but especially
Speaker 4: it's especially annoying with character continuity.
Speaker 1: Well, but here's the irony for me is that there's
Speaker 1: there's continuity in the fact that like poetry keeps coming up,
Speaker 1: like there's like there's like clearly our writers liked the
Speaker 1: issue of poetry, and it's like, okay, cool, And we've
Speaker 1: used Frankie and the issue of poetry to be a
Speaker 1: thing before, and Sean and poetry is a thing, like
Speaker 1: we've had multiple references to do. So if you're going
Speaker 1: to keep bringing up, at least reference the fact that
Speaker 1: you've done this before, that you've talked I mean, this
Speaker 1: whole setup. I'm so glad it turns out to be
Speaker 1: his dad, but this whole setup, I was like, we
Speaker 1: did this, we did this, I know, like the whole
Speaker 1: of Frankie to a girl thing is two seasons ago,
Speaker 1: Like why are we doing this again? And so you know,
Speaker 1: luckily it's slightly revised, But also I don't know, So
Speaker 1: I just wanted a little bit of recognition, like, oh,
Speaker 1: here we go again with Frankie and poetry, or here
Speaker 1: we go again with Frankie and needing help in his
Speaker 1: love life, any of that.
Speaker 2: Just a little nod to the fact.
Speaker 1: That this has happened before would have been nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I agree.
Speaker 4: I thought the exact same thing, and I have it
Speaker 4: later in the scene where it's all revealed that they're
Speaker 4: going to.
Speaker 2: Do a deal. We'll help you, and you help up,
Speaker 2: and I was like, wow, the only the.
Speaker 4: Third time in four seasons. Huh, we can't believe it.
Speaker 4: So Turner applauds Frankie's thoughtful response. The bell rings, prompting
Speaker 4: everyone to leave, but Frankie stays seated. Corey walks up
Speaker 4: and asks why the sad puss so king of poetry?
Speaker 4: Frankie begins, so at least they referenced he's the king
Speaker 4: of poetry. Okay, they've acknowledged that. Frankie begins, I'm afraid
Speaker 4: the poem you so eloquently read. Cory salutes again. Hey, Hey,
Speaker 4: the poem hits too close.
Speaker 2: To home for Frankie.
Speaker 4: Corey excitedly asks Francis Albert I was gonna say, Alberto.
Speaker 4: I don't know why I was gonna say that. Francis
Speaker 4: Albert s Tacchino. Have you been struck by Kilberto? Suddenly
Speaker 4: I would have actually been really, have you been struck
Speaker 4: by Cupid?
Speaker 2: Zero?
Speaker 4: Frankie says, alas, there are deep and turbulent waters within
Speaker 4: my soul. Sean then walks into the classroom wearing his
Speaker 4: Sean Hart shirt. Get You Now at Pod Meets Worldshow Dot.
Speaker 1: Com and a bunch of bracelets.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you're you were the originator of the Taylor
Speaker 4: Swift friendship bracelet.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm wearing it. I mean, but I also
Speaker 1: have like a watch on I don't. I was freeze,
Speaker 1: fram was like, what is that I'm wearing? I've never
Speaker 1: seen this before and wearing amazing. I definitely I thought
Speaker 1: first season I wore a friendship bracelet, a bunch that
Speaker 1: somebody had made me. But like, Yeaharon Ryder, we are.
Speaker 5: Never ever ever getting back together.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, throw Swift. That's a Taylor Swift lyric. Right, writers,
Speaker 4: very musical, musical savvy. But but no, but only only
Speaker 4: about a very.
Speaker 5: Very narrow Yes, he knows everything about nine people.
Speaker 4: I thought of you the other day when I looked
Speaker 4: up Bob Bob Dylan lyrics and reading them.
Speaker 2: I hate you so much they love We're in the car.
Speaker 1: She's like, there's nobody I hate more than.
Speaker 2: Dylan can make me gag.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not, it's.
Speaker 5: I mean, the lyrics are the best writer.
Speaker 1: The voices the voice of unbelievable.
Speaker 2: You guys have no idea.
Speaker 5: You can't believe that voices that you can't believe the voice.
Speaker 1: It is unlis why it's been imitated time and time
Speaker 1: again everybody.
Speaker 2: It's like he changed the course. You can't.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's an incredible vocal stylist.
Speaker 2: You cannot not. No, no, I'm not gonna call him
Speaker 2: a vocal stylist.
Speaker 1: That is. That's what being a singer is. If you
Speaker 1: have a voice, you sing, you emote, you find an
Speaker 1: expressive like lane for your voice. Nobody does that better
Speaker 1: than him, Like he naturally he doesn't have like some
Speaker 1: gifted beautiful instrument, but what he does with his voice, nobody,
Speaker 1: I mean like that is undeniably like one of the
Speaker 1: greatest styles of American music.
Speaker 2: Like I can't know think about it.
Speaker 1: Nobody in rock and roll post Dylan hasn't made reference
Speaker 1: to Dylan with their voice Like it's just he's the vocalist.
Speaker 5: Yes, all right, So.
Speaker 2: I love some of the lyrics. Love him just for
Speaker 2: what it's worth. Read him as a poetry book, truly incredible.
Speaker 7: Don't ever want to hear.
Speaker 1: If you actually read his poems lyrics fantast lyics great.
Speaker 3: What about Frankie's poetry to show you?
Speaker 7: Wow?
Speaker 1: Wow? Wow?
Speaker 4: Okay, So Turner compliments Frankie on doing an outstanding job
Speaker 4: in class, asking if he can save Corey and s
Speaker 4: On who are struggling.
Speaker 2: This gives Corey a plan for a negotiation.
Speaker 4: Hah, What if Frankie helps them with poetry and in
Speaker 4: return they help him with his love situation? Never seen
Speaker 4: this before, Frankie responds, let me consider then. Immediately one
Speaker 4: second later says okay, Sean asks, so who's the girl
Speaker 4: that's doing the damage. Frankie mysteriously answers, I will tell you,
Speaker 4: but not here and not now.
Speaker 2: And then we've.
Speaker 4: Now officially kicked off the third time we've told this
Speaker 4: story on Boy Meets World in three seasons, yes, season two,
Speaker 4: No four.
Speaker 2: Which I guess is fine.
Speaker 1: You know, we probably just could have done it quicker
Speaker 1: and simpler, like let's do this again, Frankie, Okay, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean, Like, never how well it worked out
Speaker 2: last time, Let's do it again. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: Any the poetry thing never pays off. That's like it's like,
Speaker 1: usually when you make a deal like this in a show,
Speaker 1: it also reflects something that's going on in Corey's life
Speaker 1: or Shawn's life, or the poetry.
Speaker 2: Pays off in any way. But instead it just becomes.
Speaker 4: We never even find out if you guys get better
Speaker 4: at your gripetry.
Speaker 2: That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: We were sitting with poetry books and like the other
Speaker 1: scene and the trailer and that's it and never, yeah.
Speaker 5: I never.
Speaker 3: That's one thing I didn't understand is why Corey needed
Speaker 3: the remedial poetry help, because it starts with him passionately
Speaker 3: reading a poem and Turner going that, Matthew.
Speaker 2: That was good. Yeah, great.
Speaker 5: So it's like, why that I didn't get. There's a
Speaker 5: lot that didn't make sense.
Speaker 2: But again I wasn't in it, so I didn't care.
Speaker 4: Let's just they're just going get to the wrestling. Get
Speaker 4: to the wrestling, right, how quickly can we get to
Speaker 4: the wrestling?
Speaker 2: So then we have a new settler.
Speaker 4: The Stacchino's trailer, there are so many trophies and wrestling belts,
Speaker 4: pictures of Vader from Slam magazine on the wall again.
Speaker 4: Set decoration and the detail they go into to make
Speaker 4: it look and feel real is so great.
Speaker 5: Trophies and lava lamps.
Speaker 8: Oh so it's like trophies in the seventies, like Trophy
Speaker 8: room in the seventies, apparently, because yes, yes, this this
Speaker 8: uh set had three things in abundance, trophies, the lamps
Speaker 8: and boom mics, which.
Speaker 1: I only caught one like up in the upper left corner.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Time it's a next trailer stamp. Yeah it was.
Speaker 2: That's so funny, we all noticed it.
Speaker 4: So mister Staquino aka Leon White, also known as Vader,
Speaker 4: barges into the trailer.
Speaker 2: He's home.
Speaker 4: Frankie's happy to see his dad and asks, may I
Speaker 4: show you my most recent addition to the Norton Anthology
Speaker 4: collection of modern poetry. We see the back of Frankie
Speaker 4: Senior's head, which is showing off a very unusual haircut.
Speaker 2: Did you guys notice his haircut?
Speaker 4: The is it the it looks like yeah, it's like
Speaker 4: like his his hair over here that looked like a
Speaker 4: battering rams like something something, at least on one side.
Speaker 4: It's it's very cool. It's also very unusual. He's disappointed.
Speaker 4: You could have been somebody. You could have been a
Speaker 4: sumo Me and your brother, Herman were at the gym
Speaker 4: and he's going to be a wrestler like his father,
Speaker 4: And then he does his famous Vader bark. Little Herman
Speaker 4: return to boy meets World.
Speaker 2: And proudly states, I will carry on the.
Speaker 4: Stacchino wrestling tradition, although my barking must improve, and then
Speaker 4: he lets out the cutest, most unintimidating poodle like woof, woof,
Speaker 4: it's adorable. Frankie Senior recognizes Corey from his son's poetry class.
Speaker 2: He's a bad influence.
Speaker 4: He threatens, I should crush you like garlic and put
Speaker 4: you in my spaghetti. Corey recalls that's what he said
Speaker 4: to Psycho sid during a wrestling match before he power
Speaker 4: bombed him through the mat, And yes, exactly, and it's
Speaker 4: a real wrestling reference and that had to have come
Speaker 4: directly from Mark Bluman.
Speaker 2: It's an actual real thing.
Speaker 1: And so does it make sense that Corey's into wrestling.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's never talked about it before.
Speaker 1: It also just doesn't seem like Corey does it, right,
Speaker 1: Like Sean being into wrestling kind of makes sense that
Speaker 1: like fits Sean's character, But like Cory.
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, it doesn't really.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's weird and a lot of different wrestling fans
Speaker 5: so you never know. I mean, wrestling is one of
Speaker 5: those things you meet, like Danielle.
Speaker 3: If you met Danielle on the street, you would never
Speaker 3: think Danielle was a huge wrestling fan, right, So it's
Speaker 3: I mean, that's kind of the thing that can be
Speaker 3: fun about wrestling is you never know who all of
Speaker 3: a sudden you're like, oh, Jake the snake is that.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's like, oh, really, you're you're wrestling.
Speaker 4: So what I think is interesting about it is more
Speaker 4: that why isn't it something that Corey and Sean do together?
Speaker 4: Like I could see I would totally buy the conceit
Speaker 4: that Corey and Shawn on weekends or whatever.
Speaker 2: Totally wrestling staff and.
Speaker 4: Talk about it with each other, and it's it's like
Speaker 4: a comic book thing something they share together, or like
Speaker 4: a baseball I could see it.
Speaker 2: But it is weird that they very.
Speaker 4: Much were Like I guess they have to because if
Speaker 4: you were also into it.
Speaker 2: Corey could go to the birthday party and you can
Speaker 2: and as the whole story. So you have to know
Speaker 2: nothing about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's why that's why it doesn't sit right,
Speaker 2: very convenient, very all around. Uh So, Frankie Senior lights up,
Speaker 2: Corey is a fan. He never misses a match.
Speaker 4: Frankie Senior exclaims, I like this boy, Why can't you
Speaker 4: be this boy? He woofs his way past the boys,
Speaker 4: with Herman following behind, yipping like a puppy. Frankie looks
Speaker 4: off into the distance and mutters, and yet I love
Speaker 4: you father. Shawn's eyes get wide. He realizes who Frankie
Speaker 4: loves that doesn't love him back. Corey says he's had
Speaker 4: the same realization. Sean blurts Amy Lee Reynolds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great, this is pretty much the only read I
Speaker 1: liked from Me Are You episode Hysterics. So I did
Speaker 1: not like it so funny. I thought it was so
Speaker 1: such a missed opportunity. I felt like I was off.
Speaker 1: But this beat I was loving.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's funny. This is very funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the commitment that I brought to it, I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, all right, it is a little writer.
Speaker 1: But no, I thought the Flintstone scene was a disaster.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh, I thought it was great. I was laughing
Speaker 5: out loud. I thought you were both awesome. I thought
Speaker 5: the writing was good. I thought the acting was good.
Speaker 5: I thought that was definitely a good scene.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, we'll talk about it when we get to it.
Speaker 4: Corey tells Sean to get closer, and he flicks him
Speaker 4: in the head, pointing out the obvious it's his father.
Speaker 4: And then we go to commercial break, and then we
Speaker 4: come back. We're in the school hallway. Corey is with
Speaker 4: Tapanga reading a card aloud. Someone is turning sweet sixteen
Speaker 4: and if you could be there, it would be Keen.
Speaker 4: Topanga is embarrassed. My mom wrote that at silly it's tom.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry you have to read this.
Speaker 2: Poetry does come back for him? There you go rhymes.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: Corey calmly responds, slow down, honey, separate your words. She
Speaker 4: tries again, please come to my sweet sixteen. It doesn't
Speaker 4: mean a lot to me, but it means a lot
Speaker 4: to my mom. Corey asks, am I your boyfriend? She
Speaker 4: says yes, and in turn he ensures that he will
Speaker 4: be there to Pega kisses him.
Speaker 1: You're the best sortest scene in the history of boy
Speaker 1: bats world with the seas so well, we have to
Speaker 1: establish that it's the party, I know, but it's kind
Speaker 1: and gets you wrestling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And I think this is the weakness right here. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like if this, if they could have raised the
Speaker 1: stakes in some way that he does need to be
Speaker 1: at this part instead, it's just to Panga wants him there,
Speaker 1: but she kind of also doesn't care.
Speaker 2: It's it's just this.
Speaker 1: This is where I think the episode could have used
Speaker 1: a little punch up in the script. And when the
Speaker 1: scene ended, I was like, that's it. There's no whether
Speaker 1: conflict any He just resolves it but just says I'll
Speaker 1: be there. He's all confident.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, it's also a little odd to me.
Speaker 4: Why did they have to make it that Tapega doesn't
Speaker 4: want to be honest about her sweet sixteen makings making
Speaker 4: like feeling important to her. It's part of what made
Speaker 4: me feel like there was no heart in it. Where Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's like, why didn't she just write from the beginning
Speaker 4: say I know it's I know it's sappy and it's weird,
Speaker 4: but my parents dance, Like right from the beginning, my
Speaker 4: parents were together at their sweet sixteen and they danced.
Speaker 4: And by the way, I was actually thrilled because I
Speaker 4: don't remember. I don't remember much, but I do know
Speaker 4: that later Tapanga has like a meltdown about her parents
Speaker 4: divorce and the fact that this was planted in season four,
Speaker 4: that her parents have been together since they were very young,
Speaker 4: and that Tapanga would somehow hold her parents' marriage up
Speaker 4: to this idea that that's what her relationship is going
Speaker 4: to be. That then makes me already feel like, well,
Speaker 4: they laid a foundation for Tapega's meltown in the future
Speaker 4: about her parents divorce a long time ago, and it
Speaker 4: makes me wonder how much of it was taken from
Speaker 4: Danielle's real life, because, as you guys know, my parents
Speaker 4: met at fifteen and got married at twenty one and
Speaker 4: were married for twenty years or thirty years, twenty thirty years.
Speaker 5: And so.
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, I wonder how much of
Speaker 4: that little Topanga aspect was something maybe they took from
Speaker 4: Danielle's real life.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's possibly they We've already established that they're definitely
Speaker 3: doing that with other people.
Speaker 2: So are you going to keep referring to yourself in
Speaker 2: third person?
Speaker 5: I kind of like it.
Speaker 2: I took it from Danielle's.
Speaker 1: Yes, I like to Penga and Danielle as a kid.
Speaker 2: I wonder if Danielle.
Speaker 3: Don't kill it, do you think do you think Tapega
Speaker 3: one of the reasons panga parents got divorced is because
Speaker 3: they woke up as completely different people.
Speaker 1: Second, only one at a time. It was first changed,
Speaker 1: jed change. It's like I don't even know you anything.
Speaker 2: That's like I'm looking at a different a different actor.
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, it's also it's this is this is
Speaker 3: when I really noticed. I mean, obviously I noticed the change,
Speaker 3: and I knew I wasn't in the episode. But then
Speaker 3: I was like, oh wait, like Bill wasn't in the episode.
Speaker 5: There's parents all.
Speaker 1: None of us, and it's interesting to me. That is
Speaker 1: what doesn't take up this whole episode is just that's
Speaker 1: the thing of actual time.
Speaker 4: That is actually the thing that bum bums me out
Speaker 4: the most about this episode is that the entirety of
Speaker 4: time is lost in the time of running back and forth.
Speaker 4: So much of the episode is wasted with we have
Speaker 4: to go right now and then see and then a
Speaker 4: lot of running and then showing up and being like
Speaker 4: I'm running. It's like, so we lost so many opportunities
Speaker 4: for real story. But there was a wrestling event. So
Speaker 4: as as Topanga or Danielle walks away, Corey slyly remarks
Speaker 4: when I'm on my game, no one can touch me.
Speaker 2: Imagine if he didn't go to his girlfriend sweet sixteen,
Speaker 2: like or.
Speaker 5: Just told her what was actually happening.
Speaker 1: Is she thinking it's okay for him not to come?
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Why is any Why is she even presenting this like
Speaker 4: a will you come to.
Speaker 5: My party party Saturday.
Speaker 1: I think our writers were just trying to because if
Speaker 1: ta Pega had walked in, writer thinks, if to Pega
Speaker 1: walked in, Will need you to stop.
Speaker 2: Loves it. Danielle loves it.
Speaker 5: Welcome to third person.
Speaker 1: It's such a red flag to me. If somebody were like,
Speaker 1: if you ever watched a reality show and they refer
Speaker 1: to themselves in third person, You're like, that person sucks.
Speaker 4: Is this the first red flag of mine you'd flag?
Speaker 4: I mean, I am nothing but a redells right?
Speaker 5: Will thinks right and Danielle both have read.
Speaker 1: Okay. I think our writers probably just didn't want to.
Speaker 1: They wanted to avoid Tapanga being too one note right,
Speaker 1: like Topanga can't just be all right? See am I
Speaker 1: sweet sixteen? I hope you know so to have. I
Speaker 1: think they were trying to add nuance in complexity. It
Speaker 1: just isn't that great, and I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: worth it like it would have been, it would have
Speaker 1: been way better. You alluded to this earlier, Danielle, It
Speaker 1: would have been way better to just give her a
Speaker 1: really good reason. The sill sixteen is important to her,
Speaker 1: like her parents had a great one or she had
Speaker 1: an awful fifteenth birthday, and this is gonna make up
Speaker 1: for it, you know, whatever it is. It's like and
Speaker 1: all she's been waiting for is this moment, and it's
Speaker 1: you know, that would have been enough. You just set
Speaker 1: it up with the real personal store in real steaks.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, back at the Stacchinos trailer, Frankie Jr.
Speaker 4: Is trying his best to explain poetry to Sean and
Speaker 4: Corey while they sit in obvious boredom. Writer, you are
Speaker 4: pulling on your lip.
Speaker 2: Did you notice this? Yes, it's so funny. It's never
Speaker 2: mentioned what you're doing. Or you're just literally tugging on
Speaker 2: your lower lip.
Speaker 1: Frank no idea.
Speaker 2: If that's something I came up that looks.
Speaker 5: Like a youth's choice, that's your choice.
Speaker 2: It's a choice writer made.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Frankie Senior bursts through the door. It's time, It's time,
Speaker 4: It's Vader time. This was his real wrestling catchphrase. In
Speaker 4: case you didn't know, I got my rematch with Jake,
Speaker 4: the Snake and the chumps going down. Whoof Frankie Junior
Speaker 4: Hardley bats an eye and continues with his lecture, see
Speaker 4: what the poet sees, feel what the poet feels. Cory
Speaker 4: butts in telling Frankie he should do that with his father,
Speaker 4: and that's where you see the boom mic very clearly.
Speaker 2: Corner.
Speaker 5: It's a character in the scene. For God's sake, I know.
Speaker 2: It's so funny.
Speaker 4: My father is not a poet. He is a professional
Speaker 4: professional wrestler villain category with the World Wrestling Federation.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 4: I love that they actually get to use all the
Speaker 4: real w w F stuff and it doesn't have to
Speaker 4: just be like generic.
Speaker 2: They get to say that.
Speaker 5: Because you know the stuff in the wrestling world.
Speaker 3: If you're a decent, well known wrestler like Vader was
Speaker 3: at the time, because he's playing himself.
Speaker 2: Did they make a good living? Yeah, I think they've
Speaker 2: always been pretty well played. Yeah, they've been well paid.
Speaker 5: But your body gets this doesn't have him in the
Speaker 5: trailer park.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's that's supposed to be a trailer
Speaker 1: Have you seen the wrestler? But but he's not in
Speaker 1: a trailer. I think in that likes he's not.
Speaker 3: Supposed to be in the w w F and like
Speaker 3: one of their key stars, right, didn't they are one
Speaker 3: of their key stars?
Speaker 4: Yeah they Yeah, Yeah, you're right that it doesn't actually
Speaker 4: track that if he is as big of it, as
Speaker 4: big of a character as he really was in the WWF,
Speaker 4: he would not need to be working mom.
Speaker 2: Right, she took him, She took him for all, she
Speaker 2: drove away, and he had to take that.
Speaker 4: Actually know that the best types of women are men,
Speaker 4: and so she was probably one of the other types,
Speaker 4: a nag or a hot bikini wearing one, or someone
Speaker 4: who a mom who abandons her family.
Speaker 5: Bands entire family. Okay.
Speaker 3: I was just wondering about that because I didn't know
Speaker 3: if this was one of those things where it's like, no,
Speaker 3: even some of the top wrestlers don't make that big
Speaker 3: make that much money, which which happens in a lot
Speaker 3: of places where you you think somebody makes a ton
Speaker 3: of money and then you find out what they actually
Speaker 3: make and it's like, oh, well you don't you really.
Speaker 4: I would say that they don't make as much money
Speaker 4: as they probably deserve, considering they ruined their they ruined
Speaker 4: their body and they're you.
Speaker 2: Know, the CTE stuff is very very real.
Speaker 4: But like if you think of like whole Cogan, like
Speaker 4: Hule Cogan was very wealthy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's that's the exception that proves the
Speaker 1: rule though, right, it's like a lot of Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like if you make it to the top ten of wrestlers,
Speaker 1: you're fine, but otherwise you're struggling in a sea of
Speaker 1: like wrestlers to stand out. And I think it's actually
Speaker 1: pretty rough. I mean I think it's it's like people
Speaker 1: people commit to it and don't make as much money
Speaker 1: because they believe in the sport and the entertainment. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like actors. It's like, yeah, how many out of
Speaker 1: work actor like your average actor, Like you know the
Speaker 1: SAG statistics of like how many people within SAG make
Speaker 1: more than twenty thousand dollars a year, it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: ten percent or something.
Speaker 5: Really, I don't think it's ten. I think it's like
Speaker 5: one or two.
Speaker 2: Really over twenty thousand.
Speaker 1: I thought like a living wage within SAG, like twenty
Speaker 1: living I don't know. I just know that like most
Speaker 1: people who call themselves actors don't make a living by.
Speaker 2: Justin out the cannect and it's the same, I think.
Speaker 1: But they do it because they love it, right, They
Speaker 1: so industry they love.
Speaker 2: Very similarly to actors. There are a lot of ups
Speaker 2: and downs.
Speaker 4: You may have a great year where you're a huge
Speaker 4: star and you're getting paid very well, but then the
Speaker 4: next person comes in, or there's a storyline changing and
Speaker 4: you're exactly and so. So you could have a great year,
Speaker 4: but it doesn't mean you're going to be set for life.
Speaker 2: So Vader has not had a good year, no two years.
Speaker 3: Because Leon he would tell us when he was there,
Speaker 3: he was broken by the time he was Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean he was. The stuff he was doing in
Speaker 3: the ring was incredible because he would sit there and
Speaker 3: tell us my shoulders are.
Speaker 5: Gone, my knees are going back. He was frusted by that.
Speaker 4: I mean mc foley, you know too. So Sewn instructs
Speaker 4: Frankie to talk to his father about what he loves.
Speaker 4: Frankie asks, you mean my brother Herman, and my heart
Speaker 4: broke a little bit to hear him say that. Sean
Speaker 4: was actually talking about wrestling, and Corey says he'll help
Speaker 4: by coaching Frankie Junior for a first attempt at connecting
Speaker 4: with his father, so he encourages Frankie to point out
Speaker 4: that his dad is setting up the Vader Bomb his
Speaker 4: signature finisher, too slowly, and so as Vader is leaving
Speaker 4: the trailer and he tells him he has a wrestling notion,
Speaker 4: his dad says, bring it on, and he pair its
Speaker 4: Corey the Vader Bomb would be best achieved if and
Speaker 4: he quickly leans into Corey asking what the answer is quicker.
Speaker 4: His dad ponders this, admitting he knew something was wrong
Speaker 4: with the bomb. You keep those tips coming. I want
Speaker 4: to see you ring side at the fight. He squeezes
Speaker 4: his son's cheek, telling him he's a good boy.
Speaker 2: He's already got the love. He did.
Speaker 1: He did it episode over exactly what I thought there.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 4: I thought for sure he was gonna say you you
Speaker 4: were gonna tell me how.
Speaker 2: I thought he was going to respond like.
Speaker 1: We're just make it a little more challenging, like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll see if it works.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I know, I thought the SA same thing. I
Speaker 9: was like, well there, episode well there, well there going
Speaker 9: some notes handed to Frankie and then go to the
Speaker 9: Sweet sixteen.
Speaker 2: You're fine, So a happy Frankie.
Speaker 4: Junior asks if he can hug Corey and Sean, and
Speaker 4: then they all go in for a group hug.
Speaker 2: I do really like this trio of friends. I'm true.
Speaker 4: I wish that was a way that Frankie could have
Speaker 4: been more involved in their friendship without it always needing
Speaker 4: to be a setup of well, let's only do this
Speaker 4: because we're both gonna benefit from it.
Speaker 2: I just like there being more of a we're friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, gosh, that's really interesting.
Speaker 3: You're right, it is always a tit for tat with
Speaker 3: their relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a Frankie, Well, in a weird way, Frankie is
Speaker 1: just because even the way it did get to me.
Speaker 1: You know, we've talked about how likes he's like this
Speaker 1: literal speaker, you know, like he says everything literally and
Speaker 1: poetically and describe, and I felt it too much in
Speaker 1: this episode, like he's living in his own universe, like
Speaker 1: as a character with his own language and is Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's I think they just went a little too far,
Speaker 1: Like if they had relaxed that a little bit, let
Speaker 1: him be more of a human being, because like it
Speaker 1: wouldn't work right. I love this too, Like when we
Speaker 1: hug I was like, oh, I know, I kind of
Speaker 1: I think like we couldn't just be in the cafeteria
Speaker 1: hanging out with with Frankie because of the way he's
Speaker 1: very You're right, right. The actual dialogue itself is like
Speaker 1: so stylized.
Speaker 2: He's such a he's such a character, I guess is
Speaker 2: the point like he's just he's cranked up to.
Speaker 4: Ten and yeah, Well, it's funny you say that, because
Speaker 4: it's one of the things we mentioned sometimes in our
Speaker 4: Q and as it's one of the reasons I think
Speaker 4: Topanga had to change as a character too. If you
Speaker 4: look at some of that first season to Pega, her
Speaker 4: channeling and doing voices and on her head doing yoga.
Speaker 2: She's on a bit of an island.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you try to then bring that character in
Speaker 4: to mainstream day to day, and they're always going to
Speaker 4: have that one note.
Speaker 2: It's going to be hard to So.
Speaker 5: It is a difference between character and caricature, right, And.
Speaker 3: That's what that's what those were. They were kind of
Speaker 3: you know, caricatures.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think maybe that's a problem with this
Speaker 1: episode in general, is that Frankie's too much of a caricature,
Speaker 1: Like it's yeah, it's if he was more allowed to
Speaker 1: be more of a character. I mean, he does that
Speaker 1: scene when he's dancing and smiling in the hallway coming up,
Speaker 1: I just I know.
Speaker 4: Then we're in the school hallway moment we talked about.
Speaker 4: Frankie Sachet's up to Corey and Sean adding a little
Speaker 4: dance move at the end. He's got a spring in
Speaker 4: his step and it's all thanks to the two of them.
Speaker 4: He's starting to win the love of his father, even
Speaker 4: though they only talk about wrestling. At least they're talking again.
Speaker 4: Sad commentary on parenting.
Speaker 1: I love his dancing like his It's so cute. It
Speaker 1: was so nice to see Ethan be able to like
Speaker 1: have some personality because this like monotone again, the caricature
Speaker 1: thing is actually a little oppressive, you know this is And.
Speaker 3: They double down with his little brother talking exactly the
Speaker 3: same way. But Leon doesn't speak like that at all,
Speaker 3: so you wonder where they both mom learned that Cadence
Speaker 3: must have been and taking the in a bikini in
Speaker 3: a bikini and.
Speaker 2: A leather jacket. Uh.
Speaker 4: Frankie says he'll see Corey and Sean tomorrow night, and
Speaker 4: Corey agrees. Sean tells Corey, you don't have tomorrow night.
Speaker 2: Uh oh.
Speaker 4: Corey frantically rushes over to Frankie. What's tomorrow night exactly?
Speaker 4: Frankie states, the most important night of my life.
Speaker 2: See then, Shawn Butt in what is what is it?
Speaker 4: Specifically? Frankie explains it's his father's fight against Shake the Snake.
Speaker 4: The winner is in line for a shot at the
Speaker 4: belt against Sean Michaels at Madison Square Garden. There's Blutman's
Speaker 4: knowledge again. Frankie Senior wants his son ringside for tips,
Speaker 4: and so he needs someone like Corey to be feeding
Speaker 4: him those tips. Corey explains that Frankie just needs someone
Speaker 4: like him, not exactly him, because see, it's to Pang
Speaker 4: his birthday party, which means nothing at all to her
Speaker 4: except everything in the world if you listen closely. He
Speaker 4: can't make it to the fight. Frankie looks to Sean,
Speaker 4: who admits he knows very little about wrestling, except when
Speaker 4: he's playing twister with the McClusky Triplets Klusky Triplets.
Speaker 1: Eh dt you elf tgf tf triplet.
Speaker 3: I will bet you that one of the caveats for
Speaker 3: doing this wrestling show was it had to stay on
Speaker 3: message for the ww F. So I'll bet it really
Speaker 3: was a title shot against Shawn Michaels for whoever won
Speaker 3: this fight, because they had to.
Speaker 5: They didn't make up this this.
Speaker 3: Wrestling match for boy mets World, so we wrote ourselves
Speaker 3: into their storyline post the other way around. So I'm
Speaker 3: guessing there really was a match between Vader and Sean.
Speaker 2: Because it was a real match. Yeah, I remember that,
Speaker 2: You're right, maybe out of the whole.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So Frankie sulks, reciting a glum poem that states he's
Speaker 4: alone without a father. Corey finally gives in he'll be
Speaker 4: at the fight. Frankie says he knows. You want to
Speaker 4: know why I know, and Corey guesses, because I want
Speaker 4: everyone to love me. Frankie responds, I've noticed that.
Speaker 2: I know I do too. I love that we realize
Speaker 2: that he's a people pleaser.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Frankie responds, I've noticed that, but I was going
Speaker 4: to say it's because you have a good heart. As
Speaker 4: Frankie walks away, Sean states the obvious to Panga is
Speaker 4: going to kill you. Corey thinks he's underestimating to Panga,
Speaker 4: but Shawn doubles down. She wants you at that party.
Speaker 4: Women aren't forgiving about this kind of thing, true, Sean says.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but a guy with boobs.
Speaker 4: The best kind of women. Sean says he'll bet a
Speaker 4: buck that she flips out. Corey confidently states it's your money, Leroy,
Speaker 4: and walks over to Tepanga, who's wearing an adorable sweater
Speaker 4: one I loved so much. I had wardrobe by a
Speaker 4: second one for me, and I wore it in my
Speaker 4: personal closet, and he casually tells her there might be
Speaker 4: a slight chance I won't be able to come. Tapanga
Speaker 4: immediately cuts him off and freaks out, I'll just die.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 4: I said it's not important, but it means everything. I
Speaker 4: only turn sixteen once. You have to be there. We
Speaker 4: have to dance at the party together. My parents dance
Speaker 4: together at her sweet sixteen, and so we have to too.
Speaker 1: There we go, there, it is.
Speaker 2: There's the important.
Speaker 1: That's the whole steaks right there.
Speaker 3: But see, I guess, and I guess they need the
Speaker 3: stakes because you're now been in a relationship so long
Speaker 3: and they've done it so many different times that I
Speaker 3: was really waiting for Corey to be like, all right,
Speaker 3: look I will be there to dance with you, but
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to pop in and out because but
Speaker 3: obviously it destroys the entire episode.
Speaker 5: But you I was waiting for that where it's.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, just tell her, But also what do we
Speaker 1: need this up?
Speaker 2: Like we could have just.
Speaker 1: Had her saying sweet sixteen be there. It's really important
Speaker 1: to me two scenes ago and then and then the
Speaker 1: end of this scene is how are we going to
Speaker 1: do it? But instead it's like we add all this
Speaker 1: extra mileage to like, yes, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: A weird, it's just a bummer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we could have gotten We know that
Speaker 4: the whole point is get to the wrestling, Get to
Speaker 4: the wrestling, and it feels like they took too long
Speaker 4: to get to it.
Speaker 2: Just get to it. Just get to it.
Speaker 4: That's what this whole episode is about. We could have
Speaker 4: had more of it if we had just gotten there
Speaker 4: a little bit faster. So Corey stares at her, Am
Speaker 4: I your boyfriend? She says yes, and he states, then
Speaker 4: I'll be there. She smiles and says she knows want
Speaker 4: to know why Corey's heard this before, because I have
Speaker 4: a good heart. She admits, I was going to say
Speaker 4: because you want everyone to love you. But yeah, because
Speaker 4: you have a good heart. She kisses Corey and he
Speaker 4: reaches into his pocket and pulls out a dollar bill,
Speaker 4: handing it to Sean who's behind him. And then we're
Speaker 4: at the Matthews house. Corey stomps in with Sean. Finally
Speaker 4: at the house, I know.
Speaker 2: I was like, where is everybody? Oh, we're all gone right.
Speaker 4: Corey wants to know why these things always happened to
Speaker 4: him and explains, these things happen to good guys. Corey ads,
Speaker 4: I'd better be real good to be in two places
Speaker 4: at once. Shawn assures him it will be done. He
Speaker 4: reaches into his backpack and pulls out a VHS tape
Speaker 4: explaining the need to be at two places at wance
Speaker 4: dates back thousands of years.
Speaker 5: HS, Baby, I love it.
Speaker 2: Corey asks, what's this?
Speaker 4: An instructional Deepak chopra Venus in mars By real Estate,
Speaker 4: no money down ad producer Juice Tiger kind of thing,
Speaker 4: which is every infomercial YEP of the nineties, and Sean.
Speaker 2: Corrects him it's the Flintstones.
Speaker 4: Sean does a little synopsis of the episode with a
Speaker 4: pointer while the cartoon plays. Fred has to be at
Speaker 4: Pebble's birthday party and the big bash at the Water
Speaker 4: Buffalo Lodge on the same night. Corey remembers being very
Speaker 4: nervous during this episode. Shawn agrees it was quite the
Speaker 4: dilemma for their prehistoric friend. Sean points to Fred Flintstone,
Speaker 4: nice guy, big feet, just like you. Cory points out, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's so cute. Corey points out Fred has a good
Speaker 4: best friend too. Sean nods, yep, he is Barney, Sean.
Speaker 2: This same worked for you, guys.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 2: It's my favorite scene in the whole show.
Speaker 1: This is the best written scene by far, Like this
Speaker 1: is the scene that makes the episode right. It's like
Speaker 1: this is I could just you know, our writers loved this,
Speaker 1: and like once you come up with something like this,
Speaker 1: it's great.
Speaker 2: It's just the staging.
Speaker 1: You can't We're pointing to an episode that can't see
Speaker 1: and on television the size of like you know, my butt,
Speaker 1: it's like so lame.
Speaker 2: It's just like, like it's a reference. I wanted it
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 1: Remember the Corey's Alternative Friends when Ben and I with
Speaker 1: the pointers, and you want it to be like look
Speaker 1: at this, I look at this, but you can't show
Speaker 1: Flintstones because you don't have the rights right, So we're
Speaker 1: talking about something we can't see. We're sitting down the
Speaker 1: whole time, so we're just like sucking all the energy.
Speaker 4: It would have been funny if Sean had had drawings
Speaker 4: and it's like on a big thing diagrammed anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, watching the episode, but I have maps laid out
Speaker 1: and I'm doing big but we need the energy up.
Speaker 2: It's so just dead.
Speaker 1: I just everything died.
Speaker 3: I would rather have add the rest of the episode
Speaker 3: this energy, then bring this up to eleven, like the wrestling,
Speaker 3: because this was Corey and Sean back and forth.
Speaker 5: Big feet, just like you. He had a best friend
Speaker 5: and I'm here for blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I think the writing is top notch. I think I
Speaker 1: am horrible in this. You guys notice me not being
Speaker 1: able to get a coiner out of my pocket? Yes
Speaker 1: that I saw, Geez find another take, guys. I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's like so all of our energy, all of our focus,
Speaker 1: like the attire all of America is watching right or
Speaker 1: Strong struggle with the pointer in his pocket.
Speaker 2: It's like Jesus, get another take. Why was that? Okay?
Speaker 2: I know, yeah I did, I did notice that, of course,
Speaker 2: that's that part sucks.
Speaker 4: Sean goes frame by frame showing Corey exactly what he
Speaker 4: needs to do, a simple costume change, and Fred was
Speaker 4: able to fool everyone. Sean has calculated the distances between
Speaker 4: both places, and the Flintstone scenario is totally doable in
Speaker 4: Corey's case. Corey assumes Sean has a fallback plan, and
Speaker 4: Sean admits. Johnny quest but then you would need Haji
Speaker 4: in a hovercraft.
Speaker 2: Great line, perfectly delivered lines so well delivered.
Speaker 5: Yes, fast, and yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm like swallowing. I don't know, I just didn't have
Speaker 2: energy this episode. You know I've talked about this is
Speaker 2: a vocal.
Speaker 1: Energy thing, Like I just have a tendency to swallow
Speaker 1: things or to play things down, and I felt it
Speaker 1: in this. It's like, oh, get the jokes.
Speaker 4: Maybe you maybe you wasted all your energy getting that
Speaker 4: pointer out of your pocket that could have been in
Speaker 4: so Sean. Sean emphasizes that Fred never spent more than
Speaker 4: seventy five seconds at either location, so they'll need to
Speaker 4: time everything out, Corey.
Speaker 1: Point of fatigue happens to everybody.
Speaker 2: It's happened no matter how.
Speaker 5: Much you reach in your pocket and play around. There's
Speaker 5: point of this point of.
Speaker 4: Corey points out that in a cartoon, time is compressed.
Speaker 4: Sean with a slight meta pause, As sure as Corey,
Speaker 4: it's the same thing. Corey explains, a television show can
Speaker 4: cover many days only one half hour program. Sean raderates,
Speaker 4: doubling down with an unseen week. Trust me, it's the
Speaker 4: same thing.
Speaker 2: It's great. Great.
Speaker 1: I think somewhere in here we missed a huh.
Speaker 2: He does?
Speaker 4: He does a great Corey, ha, add that to the
Speaker 4: little ticker counter or titeam whatever we're out there.
Speaker 2: Very meta.
Speaker 4: I love all of it. Sean reveals how Fred got
Speaker 4: caught trying to be two places at once. He was
Speaker 4: accidentally wearing his water buffalo helmet to Pebble's birthday party,
Speaker 4: and his wife then hit him on the head with
Speaker 4: a frying pan. Corey states, we can't let that happen, Barney.
Speaker 4: They shake hands. I'm here for you, Fred.
Speaker 2: Cute love little scene.
Speaker 5: Great.
Speaker 4: I know you didn't like it, and to be fair,
Speaker 4: writer Jensen didn't love it either.
Speaker 2: Thanks Jensen. So you've got a partner there because you feel.
Speaker 1: The potential for it to be brilliant and it's the writing,
Speaker 1: it's all. It's it's it's all in the actual execution.
Speaker 1: I think the writing's fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the wrestling match, this is the Kia Forum,
Speaker 2: Then it was the Great Western Forum in la is
Speaker 2: flipping between WWF.
Speaker 1: Yes, I thought we were at the Mighty Ducks.
Speaker 5: No, that was definitely the Forum.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's the Forum.
Speaker 1: Huh, all my life.
Speaker 2: I thought I was at least the outside the Ducks.
Speaker 5: Okay, then they probably they just used the static.
Speaker 6: Footage us interesting, you want to it's because that shot
Speaker 6: of the Forum there's no writing of any kind, whereas
Speaker 6: the Anaheim Stadium probably has ducks and stuff all over it.
Speaker 1: So you're right, yeah, but Disney had bought the Mighty Ducks,
Speaker 1: so that's why we were in there, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: So Jake the Snake Roberts is in the ring as
Speaker 4: the announcer Brother Love, a red faced reverend character played
Speaker 4: by w w F writer and producer Bruce Pritchard. He
Speaker 4: yells into the mic he is the best he is.
Speaker 4: Vader Vader enters the arena in a cloud of fog,
Speaker 4: wearing a singlet that says Vader time.
Speaker 1: Okay, now, did the audio strike you guys, it's just
Speaker 1: so weird. Well it's it's echoey, but it's also it
Speaker 1: sounds like you either dubbed a bunch of stuff or
Speaker 1: that because it's so loud in there that they might
Speaker 1: have had you ad r some stuff or they might
Speaker 1: have taken a track. And his announcer voice is super low.
Speaker 1: I thought the whole thing from here on, I was like,
Speaker 1: what is going on? And like, I just felt like
Speaker 1: it's audio.
Speaker 2: It's actual footage from WWF.
Speaker 1: Right, which I guess if you watch WWF, that audio
Speaker 1: makes sense. But like when he throws the chair into
Speaker 1: the ring and you don't hear it, I was like,
Speaker 1: what is going on exactly?
Speaker 2: And that's because that's real footage.
Speaker 1: Right, And that's so weird. Was the was the announcer?
Speaker 1: Could you hear the announcer when you were there? I
Speaker 1: have no recollection, okay, so I'm wondering.
Speaker 2: Was the announce cannot right?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 3: Because I was wondering if the announcer is actually saying
Speaker 3: boy meets World things or if you recorded that later he.
Speaker 2: Could have been.
Speaker 4: But it's only for the broadcast. It's what's on it's
Speaker 4: what's on TV.
Speaker 2: You don't hear it.
Speaker 4: No live, you don't hear what that guy is saying.
Speaker 4: He's speaking into a mic that goes to the TV broadcast.
Speaker 1: Because I was wondering if he's announcing like and that's
Speaker 1: his son, then he's here with his son's friend, like
Speaker 1: people actually heard that, or if that was actually part
Speaker 1: of the ww A.
Speaker 2: It was actual chaos.
Speaker 1: It was just here chaos. No one knew what was happening.
Speaker 1: No one knew what was going on. We couldn't hear
Speaker 1: each other, we couldn't hear our crew. It was Michael
Speaker 1: Shay was like having a heart attack.
Speaker 2: It was it was.
Speaker 4: I could tell that it was chaos and that you
Speaker 4: guys didn't know what to do.
Speaker 2: And do you know how I did? You know, maybe
Speaker 2: we all have the same thing. Do you know why?
Speaker 2: I know you guys had no idea what was going on.
Speaker 1: The moment when Ben and I get into the ring
Speaker 1: and we like, is that what we do?
Speaker 5: Yees do?
Speaker 4: Ben doesn't have no idea why we are there, and
Speaker 4: you know, he's literally just going, don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: I got like an Egyptian, Yet I do the same thing.
Speaker 1: I go like, I do this weird like and it's
Speaker 1: so obvious that the two of us are panicking and
Speaker 1: thrown in front of thousands and thousands of people and
Speaker 1: are like, are we supposed to just be here in
Speaker 1: the ram?
Speaker 2: What's happening? Ben's dance is for me the dead giveaway?
Speaker 1: What's going on that I was in Okay, I obviously
Speaker 1: remembered being in a Jake this There was a snake python.
Speaker 2: I saw that too. I was like, wait, he's in the.
Speaker 1: Ring with Jake. I didn't I've heard of Jake the
Speaker 1: snake in in reality somewhere, but I didn't know. I
Speaker 1: met the guy, I met the snake.
Speaker 2: Of you almost wrestled him.
Speaker 1: Also, the snake was already out, and then later in
Speaker 1: the episode we talked about, oh the snake's coming out
Speaker 1: is that snake comes back?
Speaker 5: It comes back when he's gonna win Snake.
Speaker 1: He brings the snake on us right in the beginning,
Speaker 1: and it's like that.
Speaker 3: But that's he he starts the match that they put
Speaker 3: it away and then it's going to beat the guy.
Speaker 3: Then he brings the snake back out, I think, and
Speaker 3: lays it on the dude, right yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: Brother Love also points out that he's accompanied by Corey
Speaker 4: Sean and Frankie Junior, who were acting as a special
Speaker 4: advisers for this matchup because if Vader is victorious, it
Speaker 4: puts them in line for a title shot. Vader throws
Speaker 4: a chair at the ring, barely missing the ref earl.
Speaker 4: No sound, Oh yeah, I know that, but yeah.
Speaker 2: Couldn't get over it.
Speaker 1: Sound is just made just ruin the rest of the
Speaker 1: episode for me, what did No? No, I don't because
Speaker 1: if you're used to wrestling, you're used to like this
Speaker 1: sound universe. But the transition from regular boy meets world
Speaker 1: sound to this was just so jarring.
Speaker 2: I couldn't get over it.
Speaker 1: It's like, what is happening?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the back and forth between the real
Speaker 4: footage and the yeah, and the cameras are also different,
Speaker 4: so it has a different even different look, different sound.
Speaker 4: So uh, the announcer continues, he is here to impress
Speaker 4: his son Frankie.
Speaker 2: He has something to prove tonight.
Speaker 4: Frankie, Sean, and Corey all enter the wrestling ring basking,
Speaker 4: and the jeers from real fans those are all none
Speaker 4: of those are background it.
Speaker 1: Although later they try and give us five like when
Speaker 1: Ben and I are running back, they're like holding their
Speaker 1: hands out to get high fives from us.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, oh yeah, well they'll do even
Speaker 4: if they don't hate you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So Jake grabs a real python from his bag and
Speaker 4: walks toward the boys with it. They're fearful, leaving the
Speaker 4: ring and allowing Vader to enter. The fight begins. As
Speaker 4: they grapple, Sean points to his watch to Corey it's
Speaker 4: time to leave. Frankie asks where they're going going, and
Speaker 4: Corey stutters, they forgot to buy programs. Sean emphasizes, you
Speaker 4: can't tell the players apart without a program. Frankie looks
Speaker 4: into the ring and points at each wrestler. My father,
Speaker 4: not my father?
Speaker 2: How hard can this be? And no laugh? No, no laugh?
Speaker 1: Track that I have audio is so jarring to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but so all of the scenes with dialogue next to
Speaker 1: the ring, we had to shoot, yeah, ahead of time,
Speaker 1: And that's why you never see any of.
Speaker 2: The audience crowd exactly.
Speaker 1: You can always you know, it's like a super Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a bummer.
Speaker 2: So, by the way, seventy five seconds.
Speaker 4: Anyone who's ever been to the Forum unless Tapanga's birthday
Speaker 4: party is at the Forum Club, which is then.
Speaker 2: Even if you'd have to be in row g to
Speaker 2: have the party there.
Speaker 3: To me, you're not even gonna make the Forum Club
Speaker 3: in seventy five seconds.
Speaker 4: You might get the Forum Club in seventy five cents seconds.
Speaker 4: I can I have it's a TV show the right cake.
Speaker 4: They have great cake in the Forum Club. Fine, if
Speaker 4: there's cake, I can get there in seventy five seconds.
Speaker 2: Okay, writer, We'll relax and I'm the.
Speaker 5: Only one who relax and had fun.
Speaker 2: You guys are we and.
Speaker 1: Sean are running in a car with no wheels? We
Speaker 1: have to run, right, That would have been a great
Speaker 1: thing if we had just like showed up in.
Speaker 2: Like a rock wires.
Speaker 1: Yes, if we had like pulled up and ran and
Speaker 1: holding a car around us, that would your feet your
Speaker 1: feet smoking, And then we always there, We always do
Speaker 1: the sound, the sound.
Speaker 2: And then they came running in. We're smoking? That was
Speaker 2: where were you? If?
Speaker 5: That was?
Speaker 1: Oh, that's so funny.
Speaker 2: You see you had been there that week? You miss
Speaker 2: having will around? Yes, So then we're at Topanga Sweets sixteen.
Speaker 4: It appears to be a cute little events base and
Speaker 4: there's lots of people there. Corey and Sean rush in,
Speaker 4: barely getting their suit jackets on in time. He walks
Speaker 4: up to Tapanga, who's in a bright red dress. There
Speaker 4: you are. I've been looking for you everywhere. I've been
Speaker 4: here for twenty minutes. I couldn't find you because of
Speaker 4: the size of this turnout, He says, he's running his
Speaker 4: mouth for too long, keeping her from mingling with the
Speaker 4: rest of her interesting guests. He pushes her to do
Speaker 4: a lap while Sean hides behind a tree. He's already
Speaker 4: hit his seventy five seconds.
Speaker 2: To mention Sean hiding. I know, why isn't Sean just there?
Speaker 1: He wasn't, but that was That was the thing that
Speaker 1: was really interesting is they never even allude to the
Speaker 1: fact that Sean was invited to the party. Well, no,
Speaker 1: never even like there's no allegation for him.
Speaker 2: Nothing there.
Speaker 4: I will say, for for as much of this episode
Speaker 4: as like, oh it's Tapanga Sweet sixteen, it is so
Speaker 4: not at all about Tapanga, there's not.
Speaker 2: It's like I have a very small part in it.
Speaker 2: It's not. It doesn't feel I don't know, but the.
Speaker 1: Easiest Sewan stays at the party. No, Sean has no
Speaker 1: need to be at the wrestling.
Speaker 2: So Sean's gonna with Penga with.
Speaker 1: Panga distracts her the whole night keeps, you know, and
Speaker 1: then yeah, or Sean goes to the wrestling match.
Speaker 2: With a walkie talkie, I think, come on the thing,
Speaker 2: and then you do.
Speaker 1: But they didn't exist.
Speaker 3: No, you do this thing where you're getting the wrong way,
Speaker 3: you're hearing the wrong thing, so you're saying the wrong thing.
Speaker 5: Your coach's still a bunch of stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Also, I think they missed a good opportunity to have
Speaker 3: Feenie at the Sweet sixteen watching all this stuff happen,
Speaker 3: would totally invited to her.
Speaker 4: Even better to Penga is a huge Vader fan, and
Speaker 4: he's in the audience with a Vader mask on.
Speaker 2: Oh God, after a salad day.
Speaker 4: You know, we know that that Vader Leslie is part
Speaker 4: of the PTA meetings. Yeah, so they could have known.
Speaker 4: They could know each other very well. He could have
Speaker 4: been there. I we Yeah, they gave every they paid
Speaker 4: everybody and gave everybody a week off, and they could
Speaker 4: have had some some people. Tepega mentions the dance that
Speaker 4: the two of them will have tonight, and though Cory
Speaker 4: agrees about the importance of it, he has Sean whisper
Speaker 4: yelling at him to yell to wrap it up. Corey
Speaker 4: starts to run away, and t Peg asks where he's going.
Speaker 4: Corey lies, your aunt Ruthie. She's over there, and for
Speaker 4: how long no one knows. He walks her over to Ruthie.
Speaker 4: In fact, no one knows how long any of us
Speaker 4: will be there. He runs over to Sean.
Speaker 2: That was crazy.
Speaker 4: Corey responds, I don't even know what I said. Sean
Speaker 4: pulls out their shirts and masks for the wrestling match
Speaker 4: and they sprint time.
Speaker 1: Here's how I know I'm old.
Speaker 2: I was like, Ruthie's not that old. I know the
Speaker 2: same Ruthie. I'm like, she's just like my age, maybe
Speaker 2: in fifties. Calm down, dude, And then we're.
Speaker 4: Back at the wrestling match. Jake the Snake is throwing
Speaker 4: some punches at Vader, knocking him onto the mat. Corey
Speaker 4: and Sean make it back to Frankie.
Speaker 2: Where have you been? Frankie asks.
Speaker 4: Corey starts to talk about Frankie's aunt Ruthie, before getting
Speaker 4: cut off by Sean. He's talking about the other place.
Speaker 4: Either way, Frankie needs some tips from Corey. Vader is
Speaker 4: strugg Corey advises to look out for the DDT and
Speaker 4: Frankie passes along the info. This allows his dad to
Speaker 4: successfully avoid a big attack, and then Sean taps his
Speaker 4: watch seventy five.
Speaker 2: They need to leave.
Speaker 4: Frankie again asks where they're going, and Corey can't think
Speaker 4: of a lie in time, telling Frankie the end before
Speaker 4: running off.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 4: Now, Back at Ta Pega Sweet sixteen, Corey and shown
Speaker 4: Bolton's side, still wearing their wrestling masks. Corey's getting cocky,
Speaker 4: bragging about how easy this is. Sean is very clearly
Speaker 4: looking at Corey, who is still wearing his wrestling mask,
Speaker 4: but he completely disregards it at first, and then at
Speaker 4: the last last second he says, your mask.
Speaker 2: Whew. Corey walks over to Tapanga again.
Speaker 1: It's a classic rider. Could have I could have played
Speaker 1: that joke better. Really, Yes, I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like because I was waiting for the like does
Speaker 1: you know of course you're watching it going you notice that?
Speaker 1: Are you going to? And like I just barrel through it.
Speaker 1: I'm just like take off them.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's a joke. I don't know. I was like,
Speaker 2: come on, that's.
Speaker 4: Funny play it writer, time machine getting our moments.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Corey walks over to Tapanga again, saying where have you been?
Speaker 4: I've been back and forth across this room about twenty
Speaker 4: times looking for you. Tobanga worriedly points out that he's
Speaker 4: out of breath, and Corey explains he can breathe easy
Speaker 4: now that he's found her. To Banka apologizes and Corey
Speaker 4: says accepted, see you later. He tries to run off,
Speaker 4: but to Panga stops him. Where are you going? Corey says, nowhere.
Speaker 2: There's still the matter of that special dance that's so
Speaker 2: important to you me us.
Speaker 4: Topanga smiles. She's happy to hear this means something to
Speaker 4: Corey too. She walks off to go tell the DJ,
Speaker 4: who appears to be named Larry by the sign.
Speaker 1: And is by Larry Yeah, yeah, no, Larry.
Speaker 2: Ben has a lot.
Speaker 1: I wrote this note and I'm trying to Ben has
Speaker 1: this line where he says, huh do you guys know what.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about? Non?
Speaker 1: It was like one of the most rare. I was like,
Speaker 1: is this a reference to something?
Speaker 2: I wish I could pull up? The episod? So all right, well,
Speaker 2: where does he say?
Speaker 1: Puh in this scene, I don't know I wrote down
Speaker 1: puh question mark because I think he's like trying to
Speaker 1: distract you or something. He just says like, puh.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but I was.
Speaker 1: Like, what is this a reference to? All right, well,
Speaker 1: if you guys didn't notice it, then you don't have
Speaker 1: it in your notes.
Speaker 4: Right now, so Sean, well, she's gone. Sean sees his chance.
Speaker 4: He points to Vader's wrestling match on a nearby TV.
Speaker 4: Jake is taking the snake out of the bag, which
Speaker 4: means Vader is history. Corey frantically agrees they can get
Speaker 4: there and back, but if they're not at the Sweet
Speaker 4: sixteen before the slow song starts, Corey's history, the boys
Speaker 4: run out just as Topanga walks from the DJ booth
Speaker 4: and the slow dance song starts. She searches for Corey
Speaker 4: as all the other guests couple up and start to dance,
Speaker 4: and they all look at her in absolute disgust, and
Speaker 4: one of the background actors says, Oh, my god, really
Speaker 4: like you look.
Speaker 1: It's like you look so sad and dejected just by yourself.
Speaker 5: Holding your own hands up your party.
Speaker 2: Is this a real song?
Speaker 1: Or did we write this song.
Speaker 2: I have no idea. It's a weird take on a
Speaker 2: happy bird song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, after the day you're sixteen.
Speaker 10: You're wearing red and I look down and literally the
Speaker 10: background actor that's right over my right shoulder and camera
Speaker 10: left side goes, oh my.
Speaker 2: God, oh great. I thought the same thing.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, that's a that's an interesting shot, just
Speaker 3: to Panga by yourself, just abject.
Speaker 4: Horror, like oh no, by the way, these are all
Speaker 4: supposed to the friends of mine, and everyone.
Speaker 2: Just like, what good there? Sixteen.
Speaker 1: You also spent quite a bit of money on the party,
Speaker 1: if you notice you got the gold Shafari chairs, folding chair,
Speaker 1: and you went for Larry.
Speaker 5: Everybody does like if they go cheap, So that was impressive.
Speaker 1: And you got a TV that's playing the wrestling metage.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a big deal. Watch it was
Speaker 2: a short party, but a big deal.
Speaker 1: And you commissioned your own sweet sixteen song apparently.
Speaker 2: Ver Court. So we return to the wrestling match.
Speaker 4: Corey and Sewn run up to a now disgruntled Frankie
Speaker 4: Corey's Corey's tips aren't working. Vader is gonna lose the match,
Speaker 4: Corey assures him the match will turn around any second.
Speaker 4: Vader is pushed out of the ring over the top rope,
Speaker 4: landing on the floor near the boys. Frankie rushes up,
Speaker 4: asking if he's okay. Vader breathlessly tells his son, I've
Speaker 4: got nothing, boy. This is where the beatnut fighter looks
Speaker 4: in the crowd at the one person who can give
Speaker 4: him the inspiration to go on. He asks Frankie what
Speaker 4: he's got, and Frankie turns to Corey with the same question.
Speaker 4: Corey admits he's a lot of ideas. Frankie turns back
Speaker 4: to his father and admits he has no tips about
Speaker 4: pile drivers or scoop slams. All he has is the
Speaker 4: love of a son for his father. Frankie assures his
Speaker 4: dad that no matter the outcome of this match, Vader
Speaker 4: will always be a champion in his heart.
Speaker 2: Vader asks, would have been nice here? Yep?
Speaker 4: Vader asks if it would be okay if he won,
Speaker 4: and Frankie admits, my friends did come.
Speaker 2: All this way.
Speaker 4: Vader gets up and yells to his opponent, this one's
Speaker 4: for my son. He gets back into the ring and
Speaker 4: destroys Jake the Snake, finishing him off with a Vader bomb,
Speaker 4: which is a backwards belly flop off the ropes to
Speaker 4: win the match.
Speaker 2: Pretty impressive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was hugely athletic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 4: So Frankie, Corey, and Sean rush into the ring, cheering
Speaker 4: for Vader and giving him a huge group hug. They
Speaker 4: all cheer an excitement, and Corey admits, this is like
Speaker 4: the greatest moment of my life. Sean looks at his
Speaker 4: watch and breaks the news, No, it's not. They run
Speaker 4: out of the ring, hoping to make it back to
Speaker 4: Ta Panga's party in time. But we're back at to
Speaker 4: pangas Sweet sixty back.
Speaker 1: If I remember, that's the moment that we did have
Speaker 1: to actually save those lines in front of the audience,
Speaker 1: Like we had to cheer the ring and then be
Speaker 1: in the ring to say no right yeah, And we
Speaker 1: had to do it twice and that was awful and
Speaker 1: it was it was then and I ran to the
Speaker 1: locker rooms like exiting, and then we get there and
Speaker 1: Michael Shade is screaming at us get back out there
Speaker 1: because we because the match had ended and we had
Speaker 1: already done the scene, but they needed another take because
Speaker 1: I hadn't gotten the right angle or something.
Speaker 2: So we had to keep going.
Speaker 1: But there was a real wrestling show going on, so
Speaker 1: the audience was waiting for whatever whoever was next up.
Speaker 1: There was multiple wrestlers, so they had to keep the
Speaker 1: cheering going as if the wrestling match had just ended.
Speaker 1: We ran back, got back into the ring, re enacted
Speaker 1: what we had just done to save these lines.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: It was awful and Ben and I were terrified.
Speaker 2: Oh it's the worst.
Speaker 4: So Corey runs back in to find Topanga sitting alone
Speaker 4: with no one left at the party. She nonchalantly asks,
Speaker 4: how's the fight going. Corey asks how she knew, and
Speaker 4: she points to the TV that's currently showing the replay
Speaker 4: of the three boys in the ring with Vader pumping
Speaker 4: their arms in victory. Corey tries making an excuse, and just.
Speaker 5: To make sense of the Yep, it's not love, but
Speaker 5: this sick. So you party is in full swing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, seventy five seconds ago.
Speaker 5: And then it's and then it's empty. Everybody's left by
Speaker 5: this point.
Speaker 1: Well, and when you do a replay, you play replay
Speaker 1: of the people cheering, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what you reflect seventy five seconds ago.
Speaker 4: So Corey tries making an excuse, but Tepega yells over
Speaker 4: to the tree.
Speaker 2: Hi, Sean.
Speaker 4: He sheepishly responds behind the tree, I had a very
Speaker 4: nice time. Thank you for inviting me here, asks Cory.
Speaker 4: How could you do this to me? You knew how
Speaker 4: important this was. Corey says he's sorry he ruined her
Speaker 4: party and she'll never forgive him. I guess this is
Speaker 4: where I get hit on the head with the frying pan.
Speaker 4: Tapanga asks what he's talking about, and Sean mentions the Flintstones,
Speaker 4: and she knows the episode they're talking about, immediately prompting
Speaker 4: Corey to say, and you wonder why I love this girl?
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: That's a real thing to me, because Sue and I
Speaker 3: do that all the time, where she'll say one thing
Speaker 3: and I'll be like, and I just fell in love
Speaker 3: with you, o guy. Like you know, she'll make a
Speaker 3: Star Wars reference or something. It's like boom, there you
Speaker 3: go again.
Speaker 4: Well we all know the best woman is a woman
Speaker 4: who's into man things.
Speaker 5: Hell, yes, that's exactly.
Speaker 2: Star Wars is not man things.
Speaker 1: You're watching it wrong. This is such a cheap. It's
Speaker 1: so like you like the things I like.
Speaker 2: Therefore, therefore I love you. Therefore you don't want.
Speaker 1: To you don't want to be with somebody who shares
Speaker 1: your interests ridiculous, of course, but I that's not why.
Speaker 1: I mean no, I feel that this is not.
Speaker 2: What you do.
Speaker 1: Really, Oh god, I just feel like it's such a
Speaker 1: cheat in a storytelling context to be like, this is
Speaker 1: why I like you, because like, this is why I
Speaker 1: like you.
Speaker 5: He just said, Oh god, this is you know, this
Speaker 5: is again, this is why.
Speaker 3: One of the reasons I love this woman is like
Speaker 3: she knew exactly the Flintstones episode he's talking about.
Speaker 1: But he didn't know the episode. Sean knew the episode.
Speaker 2: That's but again, that's what's so cool about it.
Speaker 1: It's like you get a mash reference or something from
Speaker 1: somebody you're hanging out with, somebody you love, and it's like,
Speaker 1: take for you, man, I'm telling you, oh god, not
Speaker 1: not going against shared interest.
Speaker 3: That's an interesting one for you.
Speaker 1: Shared I'm saying, like, that's not like exactly, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's it to me. It's it's a cheat in this
Speaker 1: context to be like, here's why Corey and Tabang are
Speaker 1: good for each other because she likes the thing. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're saying that I think it's another layer
Speaker 1: of the relationship, which happens in relationships all the time,
Speaker 1: where you hear something and it's.
Speaker 5: Like, wow, you just made a lightsaber reference. That's incredible,
Speaker 5: Like it's just it's nice.
Speaker 1: It's just nice.
Speaker 5: That's why you hate it.
Speaker 2: This is why we can't have nice things. That's how
Speaker 2: they get you.
Speaker 5: Have nice things. That's how they get you.
Speaker 4: Tapega explains, I've been sitting here since everyone left, and
Speaker 4: I've been wrestling too, wrestling with how you could have
Speaker 4: possibly left me here alone. And I know you, and
Speaker 4: I know you have a good reason, So tell me
Speaker 4: your good reason. He tells her, I was helping Frankie
Speaker 4: get closer with his dad. They both look at the TV.
Speaker 4: Frankie and his dad are in the wrestling rings, celebrating together.
Speaker 4: Tapanga acknowledges it looks like he was successful. Corey emphasizes
Speaker 4: he would never hurt her. He apologizes for not being
Speaker 4: able to dance together in front of everyone, to Panga
Speaker 4: admits in front of everyone didn't matter. It was just
Speaker 4: a special dance and she wanted it to be with him.
Speaker 4: Shawn attempts of Barney impersonation, saying, Heyvrette if it's a
Speaker 4: special dance you want, Frankie does owe you a favor,
Speaker 4: and then we quickly cut back to a new empty
Speaker 4: wrestling arena. Corey and Tapega are standing in a spotlight
Speaker 4: in the middle of the ring, slow dancing to the
Speaker 4: Very on the Nose song about your sweet sixteen.
Speaker 5: You're also eighth grade slow dancing.
Speaker 1: Ie.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, the holding each other far apart
Speaker 3: and doing this kind of dancing.
Speaker 5: It's not like you've been together.
Speaker 1: For years dancing.
Speaker 4: We reveal Sean and Frankie sitting front row eating popcorn.
Speaker 4: Shawn comments poetry and ocean.
Speaker 2: Huh, Frankie. Frankie smiles. I see you have the first
Speaker 2: time Sean eat a while.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's been like since first season, and I'm awkwardly eating.
Speaker 1: I'm not good eating on camera, like totally covering my
Speaker 1: face and like.
Speaker 2: You think it was a good David Comb's impersonation.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's good, but.
Speaker 2: It doesn't ever look like it's like you can't.
Speaker 1: I don't know, just I couldn't eat on camera.
Speaker 2: It's not not a skill. I learned the limits to
Speaker 2: your criticisms.
Speaker 4: I know no bounds you just there's not a thing
Speaker 4: you can find. You can find anything to criticize about yourself,
Speaker 4: even the way you eat on camera.
Speaker 2: Yes, gosh, it's so hard on yourself.
Speaker 4: So Sean says, those two in the row, Frankie says,
Speaker 4: those two in the ring, how many rounds you think
Speaker 4: they'll go. Sean smiles and responds, those two they're going
Speaker 4: to go the distance. And then we have our tag.
Speaker 4: We're in the wrestling area arena continuing. It's still empty,
Speaker 4: but now Vader is in the ring with his son.
Speaker 4: Vader pats Frankie on the shoulder. I accept the fact
Speaker 4: that you don't want to be a wrestler like your pappy.
Speaker 4: Frankie admits he's just happy to be there to watch
Speaker 4: his dad work out. Frankie Senior excitedly mentions he's got
Speaker 4: a shot at the belt now and he's been working
Speaker 4: on this new move. It's called the Vader Salt. Frankie
Speaker 4: Junior wants to see it, and his dad is more
Speaker 4: than happy to show him. Meanwhile, Corey and Penga are
Speaker 4: still dancing in the ring, and she tells him, when
Speaker 4: we dance close like this and you're holding me, I
Speaker 4: feel safe, like nothing could ever happen to me. Corey
Speaker 4: assures her he would never let anything happen to her.
Speaker 4: Just then he looks up and tells her to move
Speaker 4: one step to her left. They move just in time
Speaker 4: to dodge Vader's new Vader Salt a flip of sorts
Speaker 4: again off the ropes. Frankie cheers for his dad, and
Speaker 4: his dad happily pumps his fist to Pega and Corey
Speaker 4: continue dancing in the background like they didn't just witness
Speaker 4: a huge man backflipping towards their heads, almost dying.
Speaker 2: And that's our episode. Sam's onto the ground, I mean,
Speaker 2: like the backflip.
Speaker 5: Onto his own stomach, onto the My god, that's kind
Speaker 5: of hurt.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: It is so athletic, I mean, yeah, but that's pain
Speaker 4: I can only imagine. So thank you for joining us
Speaker 4: for this episode recap. Our next episode will be season four,
Speaker 4: episode ten, Turkey Day. It originally aired November twenty second,
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety six. Yeah you remember it, Thanksgiving the.
Speaker 1: Show another Ethan Franky, Yeah, Frank's family.
Speaker 2: Interesting. I vaguely remember here.
Speaker 1: Two in theis remember Oh yes, that is it?
Speaker 2: Really? Oh man? Okays, yeah, okay, can't wait.
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