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Speaker 3: on this program. Going to be a great, great weekend
Speaker 3: of comedy. And then of course you can listen to
Speaker 3: my political podcast Without a Country.
Speaker 1: It's been great.
Speaker 3: Just did my third appearance on the Fox News Channel
Speaker 3: and I think it's going I think it's going well.
Speaker 3: On this episode, I did scream that. I screamed in
Speaker 3: the middle of the episode, I'm a liberal, what do
Speaker 3: you want from me?
Speaker 1: And it was fun. We all had a good time.
Speaker 1: My parents both definitely probably saw it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, probably, I was like lots of lots
Speaker 3: of people's lots of people's parents saw it.
Speaker 1: Is what I can what I was, what I.
Speaker 3: Can say about that, But lots of people's parents saw it.
Speaker 4: Oh, your parents have been kidnapped by Fox News well,
Speaker 4: at least mine.
Speaker 1: That's fun. Yeah, it was like mine.
Speaker 4: Have it good for you, guys, it's pretty sick.
Speaker 1: How you doing good? I've been intermittent fasting. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just trying to I kind of always I
Speaker 3: just live like I don't even call it fasting, but
Speaker 3: I kind of just organically do that.
Speaker 4: Well, in a continued effort for twenty twenty four to
Speaker 4: do things that I absolutely do not want to do,
Speaker 4: but I know there can be some like health benefits
Speaker 4: or mental health benefits. I'm forcing myself to do things
Speaker 4: I don't want to do so that I can fucking
Speaker 4: woman up and be a bad person. And eating at
Speaker 4: night is one of my favorite activities in the whole
Speaker 4: entire world. I love eating at night. I do most
Speaker 4: of my eating early in the morning first thing, and
Speaker 4: then late at night. And I noticed when I I
Speaker 4: so I do this thing where I sleep eat, and
Speaker 4: I go get up in the middle of the night
Speaker 4: and I just ravage my cabinets. And then I wake
Speaker 4: up in the morning and I see all the cabin
Speaker 4: doors open, and I see food everywhere, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: and I have them. I always have the flashback of
Speaker 4: oh right, Oh god damn it.
Speaker 1: And you don't eat that much though, so like, what's
Speaker 1: the problem.
Speaker 4: Well, because, so what it does to your blood sugar,
Speaker 4: and your pancreas and your liver when you eat, you
Speaker 4: should you should at least be going twelve hours without
Speaker 4: eating so that your body can do what it's supposed
Speaker 4: to do. But if you go, if you go sixteen
Speaker 4: hours without eating, this cool process called it's called katosis,
Speaker 4: it's called this another word for it, it's not it
Speaker 4: can't be katosis. Well, it's basically where your body is
Speaker 4: getting energy from the fat cells within your body instead
Speaker 4: of like the sugar that you eat, right, And well,
Speaker 4: what that does is it cleans out all your cells.
Speaker 4: So if you go do a sixteen hour period of fasting,
Speaker 4: it's really good for your health.
Speaker 1: But god damn do I get angry.
Speaker 3: Well, I know people have mixed feelings on intermittent and
Speaker 3: fasting though, because I know there's also been a lot
Speaker 3: of discussion about people thinking it's too close to an
Speaker 3: eating disorder.
Speaker 1: While they said it, if you've ever had anything you
Speaker 1: sort you shouldn't do it. I just I take that challenge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I only had needing to sort of for like three months.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's more. Yeah, yeah, it was because this guy
Speaker 1: cheated on me and I just needed to feel in control.
Speaker 4: Really but uh but I just wanted to see if
Speaker 4: it was if it was something for me, because it's
Speaker 4: certainly not for everybody. Yeah, but I will say not
Speaker 4: eating even just even if I didn't fast and I
Speaker 4: just didn't eat past eight o'clock, because it's not healthy
Speaker 4: for your organs, because what I would do is I
Speaker 4: would stuff my face.
Speaker 3: It's hard when you're a comedian. It's like when you
Speaker 3: get home from work at one in the morning. I
Speaker 3: mean it's you've had a full work day and then
Speaker 3: you're not going to eat. I know, Well that's why
Speaker 3: I got it. That's why I got like my meals.
Speaker 3: You have to fucking crap. It's exhausting.
Speaker 4: But but yeah, so your organs are just and I
Speaker 4: wake up in the morning and I feel so much better.
Speaker 1: So that's been fun.
Speaker 4: I'm just the book that the book Woman Code that
Speaker 4: I'm kind of studying right now, just talks about putting
Speaker 4: really healthy food in your body is really going to
Speaker 4: change how your hormones function. So I'm experient experimenting with that.
Speaker 4: Cooking most of my meals, and it's feel lighter and
Speaker 4: even when I'm angry, still very grounded, you know, which
Speaker 4: is pretty cool. So there's some cool benefits. But I
Speaker 4: was thinking last night, were you. Yeah, I was doing
Speaker 4: some thinking. I was pondering, you know, I was watching
Speaker 4: the super Bowl. We're recording this early, watching the super Bowl,
Speaker 4: and you know, Beyonce dropped an album and then it's
Speaker 4: real draw bombs. Uh that was sad and bad, but uh,
Speaker 4: I was just we get a lot of when you're
Speaker 4: a public person, you get a lot of people's opinions
Speaker 4: about you on your Instagram page, you know, left in
Speaker 4: the comment section.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure.
Speaker 4: And we've been doing this for ten years. Baby, We're
Speaker 4: used to it. And I mean, at this point, I'm
Speaker 4: used to it. So I'm like, all right, let's go.
Speaker 4: It does make you a better person because I like
Speaker 4: that you were used to it at a different time,
Speaker 4: very different, very different periods of being used to it
Speaker 4: than you. Because now I've done all this work on
Speaker 4: like Troutlin and shit, I'm like, oh, this is why
Speaker 4: people are dicks.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like so at least because.
Speaker 4: Before that, before doing all that work, I literally would
Speaker 4: contemplate at home.
Speaker 1: And be like, why are people so fucking mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it would really bother me, really bothered me.
Speaker 3: It still actually bothers me that people are so cruel,
Speaker 3: but I don't I don't like, I'm not like why right.
Speaker 1: It's me saying That's where I'm at with it.
Speaker 4: It still bothers me, and I feel like lately, on
Speaker 4: my page and then on everybody's pages, everyone's just being
Speaker 4: a cunt. On Instagram, like a huge cunt. Julia Roberts
Speaker 4: posted this picture of her and her niece like having
Speaker 4: a having a playing poker or something, drinking tea, and
Speaker 4: it's also like just you want one of the one celebrity.
Speaker 4: I can't even think of anything bad to say about it,
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: And then she was like yeah, not always.
Speaker 4: People are in the comments like wow, she's unrecognizable and
Speaker 4: she's like, guys, I'm fucking fifty and she's like I
Speaker 4: know who I am on coffee and who I am.
Speaker 4: But that still bummed me out and it made me
Speaker 4: think about all the teenagers that get bullied online for
Speaker 4: their appearance and it's like so mean. And then on
Speaker 4: my post lately, I'm experimenting with this fucking algorithm. It's
Speaker 4: gonna be the death of me. But just people saying dumb,
Speaker 4: mean shit, and I'm like just like, just like, I mean,
Speaker 4: there's there's always the oh, this is what you're talking
Speaker 4: about when everything else is going on in the world,
Speaker 4: which I will address in one moment. That's why I
Speaker 4: want to talk about this. Oh, I see it a
Speaker 4: very important thing to say about that. But and then
Speaker 4: it's just like just mean shit of like you're unfuckable
Speaker 4: or just dumb shit that I'm like this, these don't
Speaker 4: hurt me, and.
Speaker 1: For those are usually meant for my page. I know
Speaker 1: now I'm getting them, and that's why I'm like, Wow,
Speaker 1: the internet's really doing one. No, it's really doing one
Speaker 1: on us. Weird, I know. And it's like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: like fuck you, you suck.
Speaker 4: But the the the the amount of comments and dms
Speaker 4: I've been getting about people disappointed in me for this
Speaker 4: is one comment I got last night that I ended up.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I'll talk about this part on the bonus episode because
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna give this person a platform.
Speaker 1: More than I more than I have.
Speaker 4: But uh about not talking about the words about not
Speaker 4: talking about what's happening in Gaza and that you know,
Speaker 4: as from my perspective, I know what I think in
Speaker 4: my day to day, and I know that I on Twitter.
Speaker 4: I don't see the images on Instagram because I've filter
Speaker 4: them out because I.
Speaker 1: Just want to see fucking Dashians and rugby players. That's it.
Speaker 4: I don't want to see this shit, Okay, I don't
Speaker 4: want to and I control. I can control as much
Speaker 4: as I can. And Twitter's a different story because they're
Speaker 4: the images. It's really sad, and these images are they
Speaker 4: bother me to the point where they do affect They
Speaker 4: don't affect my ability to function, but it ruh. I
Speaker 4: need to take like an extra hour out of my
Speaker 4: day to like cry, to be honest, because I'm like,
Speaker 4: this is this is just so awful, but a lot
Speaker 4: of criticism being thrown at me and I'm sure a
Speaker 4: lot of the other people about artists not addressing Gaza
Speaker 4: every second of the day.
Speaker 1: And I want to throw this out there as food
Speaker 1: for thought.
Speaker 4: If you are an activist or if you have a
Speaker 4: cause that you're really passionate about, you cannot It is
Speaker 4: not healthy to only think about that. Twenty four to
Speaker 4: seven you are traumatizing yourself with these images and these
Speaker 4: videos and constant taking in the new Who's is traumatizing
Speaker 4: And as an artist, I believe our job is if
Speaker 4: you're an artist who wants to speak up about this shit, cool,
Speaker 4: that's your prerogative.
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah.
Speaker 4: But if you're an artist that just wants to provide
Speaker 4: some brevity, like a stand up comedian, that's a really
Speaker 4: important service. And I was thinking about, you know, having
Speaker 4: your like there's because the part of the comments that
Speaker 4: really bothered me is I thought that you stood up
Speaker 4: for what is right, Like this has been said to
Speaker 4: me so many times, and I'm like, dude, and it's
Speaker 4: mostly all women that are doing this, but I'm like,
Speaker 4: I do, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Okay, I do stand up for what's right.
Speaker 4: But also it is important to take a second out
Speaker 4: of your day to just look at a clip of
Speaker 4: a podcast and me talking about getting caught snooping in
Speaker 4: my boyfriend's journal, you know what I mean, Like you
Speaker 4: need to think about other things you cannot think about
Speaker 4: all this shit. And that's where I believe the power
Speaker 4: of art can be super cathartic, where it's like I
Speaker 4: just need a break from looking at dead child's body,
Speaker 4: Children's Bodies for a second, and I need to watch
Speaker 4: this dumb fuck thing on in you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And so it's really important and I was just it made.
Speaker 4: Me ponder because Beyonce, like I said, release that album
Speaker 4: in the middle of the super Bowl, and I feel
Speaker 4: so lucky to be alive at the same time as
Speaker 4: that woman. And I also feel lucky to have a
Speaker 4: creative person that I legit look up to and kind
Speaker 4: of study. Uh, and I know what she gives to
Speaker 4: me as a fan. Are you raising your hand?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Can I tell us a quick story.
Speaker 1: She's in the middle of something for sure, Yes, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Know what she gives to me as a fan of her, right,
Speaker 4: I don't know if she's talked about the Gaza thing.
Speaker 1: I frankly, I don't even fucking know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I was actually gonna ask. I'm like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: And you know what, I don't care, Okay, take her
Speaker 3: swift hasn't address that.
Speaker 1: I don't and I don't.
Speaker 4: I just don't expect Beyonce to address it. She has
Speaker 4: her issues. I'm sure she I'm sure she.
Speaker 1: Had to have said something.
Speaker 3: Well, because Bella had had and had had like a
Speaker 3: dinner with Taylor Swift and like those people, and so
Speaker 3: they like and so she changed something about where her
Speaker 3: album was being released.
Speaker 1: This was the way at the beginning.
Speaker 4: Though, Oh, okay, okay, And look, if she wants to
Speaker 4: say something, I think that's amazing and powerful.
Speaker 1: But if she doesn't want to say anything at the moment,
Speaker 1: that's okay. She's her own person.
Speaker 4: And I was thinking about what Beyonce gives me as
Speaker 4: a as a as a fan of hers, and then
Speaker 4: I was thinking about, well, what do I want to
Speaker 4: give people? What like gifts do I want to, you know,
Speaker 4: bestow upon people? And I never really thought about it,
Speaker 4: but I want to. I mean, it makes sense, it's
Speaker 4: kind of obvious. I want to make people laugh because
Speaker 4: laughter is very healing, especially when you laugh about dark things,
Speaker 4: or you laugh in the midst of dark times.
Speaker 1: That is so potent.
Speaker 4: You have no fucking idea because it takes the theme
Speaker 4: out of the pressure cooker that is your rage and
Speaker 4: your terror and your sadness. I want you to contemplate
Speaker 4: new ideas that to find what you believe are logical.
Speaker 4: That's well, well, Aliens and ghosts psychedelic drugs, and.
Speaker 1: I want you to encourage I want people.
Speaker 4: I want to encourage people to get to know themselves
Speaker 4: on a very deep level. And I also just yeah,
Speaker 4: I just wanted to talk about that, and how before
Speaker 4: you press post on a comment. I know that we
Speaker 4: have bigger fish to fry in the world, but I'm
Speaker 4: kind of like, and we don't actually, because true humanitarian
Speaker 4: shifts in consciousness and becoming better as a people they
Speaker 4: happen with you first. Boo, they happen with me first. Okay,
Speaker 4: you've got to do the work on yourself, and so
Speaker 4: I encourage you before you press post.
Speaker 1: On that comment. And I've done this.
Speaker 4: I've seen Instagram posts and I'm like, what the fuck
Speaker 4: does this person who she's?
Speaker 5: Sake?
Speaker 1: She is?
Speaker 4: And I'll go to posts and then before I press
Speaker 4: the post button, I go, is this coming from a
Speaker 4: place of love or fear? And then when I don't
Speaker 4: feel like answering that question because I'm too fucking mad,
Speaker 4: I ask myself, am I adding to the garbage dumpster
Speaker 4: fire of Instagram or a social media platform? Or is
Speaker 4: this making something better? It's never making something better When
Speaker 4: I'm mad, so I don't post I.
Speaker 3: Think very few comments on on Instagram are making anything better,
Speaker 3: not really yeah.
Speaker 1: Even put fire signs.
Speaker 3: It's like anything yeah yeah, the algorithm, I suppose, but
Speaker 3: I do think I I would implore people to uh
Speaker 3: maybe not use the artists who follow on Instagram use
Speaker 3: their comments section as a dumpster for your misplaced rage,
Speaker 3: because your rage is coming from a real place.
Speaker 1: But we know it's coming from helplessness too.
Speaker 3: So I feel like it's you know, people, people don't
Speaker 3: know what to do, and that feels like they did something,
Speaker 3: but yeah, it's you. They just they just made you mad.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm mm hmmm, Michael, I understand that. So uh,
Speaker 3: I think buckle up, get a blanket.
Speaker 6: These are no, it's this is these are This is
Speaker 6: my personal opinion, but having worked in really radio forever,
Speaker 6: I think there are certain arenas where certain things are
Speaker 6: appropriate and inappropriate, yeah, beyond people's personal feelings about something
Speaker 6: that's happening.
Speaker 2: In the world.
Speaker 6: And one of the best examples that I've ever been
Speaker 6: a part of, and it still makes me laugh to
Speaker 6: this day, but when I was working at Betches, we
Speaker 6: were working on we were working with I think someone
Speaker 6: you guys had on the show a while ago comments
Speaker 6: by celebs Emma.
Speaker 1: Dimas Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: Great, Emma is really fantastic. But they they were trying
Speaker 6: to get their footing as a podcast when we were
Speaker 6: still working with them.
Speaker 2: They didn't really know how to do any of this yet.
Speaker 6: And their show is a fucking you know this, this
Speaker 6: celebrity said this, and this. It's a nonsense fluff bullshit thing.
Speaker 6: And we were recording it.
Speaker 1: Yeah no I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean just what it is.
Speaker 4: But we need we need some nonsense sense fluff ship
Speaker 4: to give it us a break.
Speaker 3: Exactly, I mean, just a non quite frankly, some of
Speaker 3: us are too fucking stupid.
Speaker 1: I mean myself included.
Speaker 3: But I have a show about being stupid talking about politics.
Speaker 3: So it feels American. But right, that's kind of the point.
Speaker 6: Right, So Emma, like this is it's a perfect example.
Speaker 6: They they they just don't do a show about any
Speaker 6: of that type of stuff.
Speaker 2: Their show was just like, it's.
Speaker 1: How the Kardashians don't talk.
Speaker 3: About food, right, Oh my god, exactly that they really
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
Speaker 3: That's why they allowed that one guy to be food God.
Speaker 3: Their friend is food God, because that's one thing they
Speaker 3: don't deal with.
Speaker 1: They don't deal with food.
Speaker 2: Go on show.
Speaker 6: Emma and Julie, who I don't know what their show
Speaker 6: looks like now, but that was who was hosting the show,
Speaker 6: Emma and and I forget Julia his last name. But
Speaker 6: we were recording like a day before or the day
Speaker 6: of nine to eleven, and we were putting it out.
Speaker 2: Not even was.
Speaker 1: Like you were a child, I said, Mike invented podcasting.
Speaker 6: This was like, I don't know, twenty twenty eighteen or
Speaker 6: something like that, and I was a year. They were
Speaker 6: prepping the show and then they started they were they
Speaker 6: were going to record the show, and they started talking
Speaker 6: and then they realized they hadn't said anything about.
Speaker 2: Nine to eleven on their show.
Speaker 6: So they were like, we have to stop and take
Speaker 6: a moment to have like a just recognize nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: And basically, like in the middle of.
Speaker 3: Their podcasting at all, exactly, they're.
Speaker 6: Just like, we'd be remiss if we just didn't remember that,
Speaker 6: like today was nine to eleven.
Speaker 1: Oh it really took that, don't forget me.
Speaker 2: And that was it. They didn't say anything else.
Speaker 6: Okay, they didn't say anything about but in their head.
Speaker 3: They're doing it as insurance for themselves, not because they
Speaker 3: actually have anything poignant to say about it, exactly.
Speaker 6: And it's not like it was like a like a
Speaker 6: memorable anniversary of nine to eleven. Sure they shoehorned this
Speaker 6: like meant this like non sequard. Yeah, just mentioned of
Speaker 6: nine to eleven into this show about you know what?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: John Stamos said on.
Speaker 1: Yeah what's hot right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 6: So I just think there's times and places for all
Speaker 6: that stuff. And it doesn't mean you don't care about
Speaker 6: what's going on, and it doesn't mean but it's just.
Speaker 4: Sometimes people are caught up in like a really intense
Speaker 4: emotion from seeing some really awful things, right, and they're.
Speaker 1: Like, why aren't you feeling the way I'm feeling right now? Boo?
Speaker 1: We have at some point.
Speaker 4: And this is the last thing I want to say
Speaker 4: about this is like I want you guys to think
Speaker 4: of artists as the musicians.
Speaker 1: On the Titanic. Okay, the violinists. You look, Oh my
Speaker 1: headplhones got cut out. I can still hear oh, you
Speaker 1: can still hear me? Yeah everything I can't hear myself.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make a speech now, think of artists as
Speaker 4: like the violinists on the Titanic. The ship is going down,
Speaker 4: it's traumatic, it's chaotic, people are dying, it's not fun,
Speaker 4: and you look around you there's chaos. But then you
Speaker 4: look at those musicians on the Titanic. They're still fucking
Speaker 4: playing because what are they gonna do. Scream too is
Speaker 4: not help. They're gonna play. So I, as an artist,
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm gonna keep playing that violin, baby, all right.
Speaker 1: So don't expect me to comment about these things.
Speaker 4: Don't expect artists to comment on these social matters all
Speaker 4: the time, because I don't think it's healthy for the
Speaker 4: psyche of people. I think it's super traumatizing to talk
Speaker 4: about something so awful all the fucking time. You have
Speaker 4: to talk about other things, if only for a moment. Okay,
Speaker 4: So that's all I wanted to say. And it's your
Speaker 4: fucking email, you.
Speaker 3: Know, As I said, if you're looking for a hot
Speaker 3: Israel hamas contents, I have hours of it for you
Speaker 3: on Without a Country.
Speaker 1: But I address this on Without a Country.
Speaker 3: But I think what's upset me a little bit is
Speaker 3: that we're cherry picking atrocities, right, and there's there's no
Speaker 3: argument the the level of atrocity, uh and the number
Speaker 3: of deaths in Palestine. I mean, it's the tens of
Speaker 3: thousands of people who have died. There's no you know,
Speaker 3: you can look on Wikipedia and actually see a numbers
Speaker 3: order of slaughters that have occurred, and it's you know,
Speaker 3: nearing the top, that's for sure. But what also happened
Speaker 3: is like, for instance, this week, a cult leader named
Speaker 3: Paul McKenzie Mackenzie and Kenya was charged with murder after
Speaker 3: more than four hundred bodies were found buried in shallow
Speaker 3: graves in a remote forest in the east of the country,
Speaker 3: many of them children. And it's just like, Okay, well,
Speaker 3: there's an example of an atrocity that I haven't heard anyone.
Speaker 3: I mean I pulled it up because I was specifically
Speaker 3: looking for other atrocities. But it's like, are those there everywhere?
Speaker 3: People less important? You know they're not, And like, we
Speaker 3: don't all have a running list of everything that happened
Speaker 3: horrific in the world.
Speaker 1: No one knows everything.
Speaker 3: No one has a list, and I feel like it's
Speaker 3: weird to put it in some kind of like in order.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And one of the things about having a phone too,
Speaker 4: is your in constant view of all the awful things
Speaker 4: that are happened, not even half of them that are
Speaker 4: happening in the world. And so it's like, I mean,
Speaker 4: we are so aware of what's happening that we get
Speaker 4: a live stream of it. My god, that's who that
Speaker 4: does damage to the soul of the planet.
Speaker 6: Makes you miss the days when you can just have
Speaker 6: a job on the docks, yeah, screen all day.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing is that even when you talk about it,
Speaker 3: I mean again, like I've talked about this for hours,
Speaker 3: no one's gonna You're not gonna talk about it exactly
Speaker 3: right how people want you to.
Speaker 1: But that's your right.
Speaker 2: Well that's what.
Speaker 1: But that's the beauty of having an opinion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, having an opinion thinking about something, you know, maybe
Speaker 3: maybe go talk to the president about it.
Speaker 1: That's why I want to get abducted by aliens. I don't,
Speaker 1: I really do.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 3: I loved I mean, I love talking about politics. I
Speaker 3: think it's fascinating. I think it's you know, I feel
Speaker 3: like me for me personally, it is my responsibility as
Speaker 3: like a citizen to talk about politics.
Speaker 1: But that's my views on myself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, guys, today's guest is us.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna keep chatting. I'm gonna keep chatting.
Speaker 2: And I thought you just forgot. You were gonna throw
Speaker 2: to somebody.
Speaker 1: You've seen her on the comedy something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be us, and it's gonna be amazing,
Speaker 4: and uh, we're all going.
Speaker 1: To be here. Oh you know what.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I was actually we were I was talking
Speaker 3: to Mosha Kasher and so then it got me googling
Speaker 3: about Natasha la Zueiro and the last time that they
Speaker 3: were on our show, and I found this, wait, this
Speaker 3: really weird site that I wanted to show you, guys,
Speaker 3: and it just goes to show that there's really a
Speaker 3: fetish for everything. So I was trying to remember when
Speaker 3: Natasha was on the show because we're going to might
Speaker 3: have them back on, and the Sneeze Fetish forum came
Speaker 3: up when you search Natasha Lazaro guys, we fucked, and
Speaker 3: it is literally just a site where they linked to
Speaker 3: famous I guess mostly women, and when they sneeze on
Speaker 3: podcast appearances, because this is a specific type of fetish,
Speaker 3: then put their energy into the weirdest.
Speaker 4: If I had to put my I guarantee you the
Speaker 4: guys who do this, they don't do their dishes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so literally there's a post on sneeze Sneeze
Speaker 3: fetish forum and it's sneeze fetishforum dot com that says
Speaker 3: mal He posts on August twenty seven, twenty one, he
Speaker 3: goes Natasha Lazio sneezing on the Guys We Fucked podcasts
Speaker 3: and then it goes further on further to say the
Speaker 3: hosts describe her leaning back in her seat to wish
Speaker 3: when Natasha responds that she was doing so because she
Speaker 3: needed to sneeze, and then she does so at the
Speaker 3: forty five minute, thirty eight second time stamp. Bro and
Speaker 3: they comments on the quality of the sneeze. Enjoy and
Speaker 3: then there's a Luminary link to the time stamp of
Speaker 3: the sneeze.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's really something.
Speaker 1: People are so unique.
Speaker 4: I'm like, well this even you think you can't be
Speaker 4: surprised by people are like, you think you've heard it all.
Speaker 1: Wait, oh my god, my phone is fucking with me.
Speaker 3: I tried to I just click the link and then
Speaker 3: it says episode unavailable.
Speaker 1: Why can't I listen? To call her? Daddy on Luminary
Speaker 1: is temply unavailable. This is dadaddy. Wait, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: Look at my phone is fucking haunting me? Wait wait
Speaker 3: wait wait wait. That is a weird prompt.
Speaker 1: The prompt is the prompt.
Speaker 4: The professional prop that's coming up on Kris's phone is
Speaker 4: in quote, why can't I listen to call her daddy
Speaker 4: on luminary? It's temporarily unavailable from call her day.
Speaker 1: That's weird. That's weird. That's weird. Yeah, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: Well, anyway, the sneeze, the sneeze fetish forum, uh is poppin'
Speaker 3: jeez and then and then Nov, can.
Speaker 1: You imagine if that's what got you off? Just a
Speaker 1: fucking sneeze? How simple?
Speaker 5: Not?
Speaker 3: Well, there isn't you know? Go to it is the
Speaker 3: beginning of an orgasm. Like it's the same, like.
Speaker 2: Power sneezing feels well.
Speaker 3: Like no, no, like this like the medbination is like
Speaker 3: the same. I don't know verocity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does feel like I'm jizzing, but like in.
Speaker 6: Byway, like when you're winding up for a sneeze, you
Speaker 6: like pull everything in.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's like an explosion.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, wait guys.
Speaker 3: The first reply to this from Nov the day after
Speaker 3: the original post. He goes nice, fine and good sneezy
Speaker 3: chatter from the others too.
Speaker 1: All right, another person, I love this.
Speaker 3: Another person goes amazing build up at seven minutes and
Speaker 3: ten seconds in this is Oh, this is this. I
Speaker 3: guess this is specifically the Natasha Darrow sneeze fetish page.
Speaker 1: It looks like she sneezes a lot on pop on podcasts.
Speaker 2: Gotta get yeah or not?
Speaker 1: Yeah, people can still continue to have good time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's a there's a couple episodes of Endless
Speaker 3: Honeymoon where she sneezed.
Speaker 1: Sneezing. Wait, contact staff. I would love to see who's
Speaker 1: the staff of the staff?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Wow, Jesus furry sneezing archives?
Speaker 1: Oh man, can you look up? Who's on there? Are
Speaker 1: you on there? Are we on there? Oh? Like wiki fee?
Speaker 1: Is it like wicky sneeze? Right right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hell yeah we are made? Hell yeah, we're on wiky.
Speaker 1: If we've been on wiki fee for like a de game,
Speaker 1: bone you on that? Okay?
Speaker 3: Mmm, I don't I I just googled Corine Fisher sneeze
Speaker 3: and the thing comes up. Let me do, Christina Hutchinson.
Speaker 3: Maybe we have sneezed enough.
Speaker 1: On air. I don't think I really sneeze on air.
Speaker 4: I mean either I've been sick or we've had to
Speaker 4: record sometimes and I've I've done it off.
Speaker 3: No, it just keeps, it just keeps, specifically going to
Speaker 3: Natasha la Zeo sneeze.
Speaker 1: I guess she's just a sneezy lady. Yeah, sometimes he's sneezy.
Speaker 1: Wow wow, wow wow sneeze theory. Okay, I love that.
Speaker 1: That's fun.
Speaker 3: All right, let's read this article or this email. This
Speaker 3: is a subject line? Does that mean he likes me?
Speaker 1: Back? Hey, Christina and Grint.
Speaker 3: I've been watching you guys since twenty eighteen and I
Speaker 3: love the podcast. Also, for warning, I've never wrote to
Speaker 3: a podcast like this, so I may not be good
Speaker 3: at explaining things. Okay, So for contact, I'm nineteen and
Speaker 3: work at Walmart. I'm still not entirely confident in myself
Speaker 3: and it's hard to find myself being with someone. But
Speaker 3: there's a guy who came into work and is now
Speaker 3: a good friend. The thing is that I found that
Speaker 3: I found that I was having a crush on him,
Speaker 3: which hasn't happened at all with someone.
Speaker 1: My age except like sixth grade. At the time.
Speaker 3: He was nineteen as well, but had a birthday December,
Speaker 3: so now he's twenty.
Speaker 1: Uh uh oh an older man. This is so funny
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 3: He and his mom worked together and were good friends
Speaker 3: along with my other friends. Some things he had said
Speaker 3: or done is a little list, but I've taken notice.
Speaker 3: If my other friend is walking with his mom, this
Speaker 3: is such a nineteen year old team here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really sweet and also like, I feel like
Speaker 1: this person's pretty self aware for a nineteen year old.
Speaker 3: I if my other friend is walking with his mom,
Speaker 3: he decides to walk with me every time. He has
Speaker 3: bought my work lunch staff more than once, and random
Speaker 3: things out of the blue when he asked the question
Speaker 3: or something and someone else answers, for instance, his mom,
Speaker 3: he will straight up say I was talking to her
Speaker 3: and I'm sitting at the table like shocked face, okay,
Speaker 3: this is a little hard to know what you're saying,
Speaker 3: or paid for our breakfast outings, and is always looking
Speaker 3: at me okay. Oh, and during work he would always
Speaker 3: do something that catches me off guard and he would
Speaker 3: say any chance that he got to say, do I
Speaker 3: make you nervous?
Speaker 1: The thing weird? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Nervous No, it was a cute way to an old Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's twenty, thinking of like an older man.
Speaker 1: Going do I make you nervous? Pretty low? No, you
Speaker 1: can say it.
Speaker 3: You can say it in like a flirty way, like
Speaker 3: makes you nervous? Yeah, yeah, I've said it to people.
Speaker 3: The thing is, though, he's also just a really chill guy,
Speaker 3: nice guy, So I feel like everything he does I'm
Speaker 3: reading into. But the thing he has said he isn't
Speaker 3: looking for is a relationship. And to be honest with
Speaker 3: the way that I am, I don't know if I
Speaker 3: am as well. Also, his mom, who also months ago,
Speaker 3: asked my other friend after he bought my lunch if
Speaker 3: she thought that he likes me or whatever. And I
Speaker 3: have not told the mom and don't think I could,
Speaker 3: but she low key ships. I think, oh my god,
Speaker 3: it's hilarious. I would love to see what you guys think.
Speaker 3: Keep doing what you're doing. I love you guys, and
Speaker 3: what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Okay with you? But he doesn't want a relationship. Unders
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: People tell you who they are, don't don't read more into.
Speaker 4: My will always kind of they'll verbally tell you where
Speaker 4: they're at and what their quality best and worst qualities are,
Speaker 4: so believe him. But also if if it's bugging you,
Speaker 4: if you're like, oh, but maybe, then sometimes you need
Speaker 4: to know. You need to hear it from the source,
Speaker 4: because if you have a crush on him, for example,
Speaker 4: and it's kind of like being fostered, and you don't
Speaker 4: want to foster it anymore because it's not going to
Speaker 4: go anywhere. Do yourself a favorite. Don't foster a crush
Speaker 4: on this guy. Just ask him, like, do you like me?
Speaker 4: You're fucking nineteen, you know, you sounds sweet, it's fine.
Speaker 4: The worst that he's he might say no, I don't
Speaker 4: like you, and he's like, okay, cool, and then you're
Speaker 4: gonna be maybe a little daggered from that and you
Speaker 4: move on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like the women, as women, we love to like
Speaker 3: include these like listicles of everything the guys guys aren't
Speaker 3: thinking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're just fucking existing, dude.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And they'll say, if he liked you, you would
Speaker 4: know pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: You would know pretty quickly, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And if it feels like you're not sure, that
Speaker 3: means like sometimes like they're unsure too, you know, like
Speaker 3: guys don't have this master plan most of the time
Speaker 3: that we think they do.
Speaker 1: No, they don't. They don't think that far ahead. They don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no master fucking plan.
Speaker 4: No, they're just existing and that's why they're a little
Speaker 4: bit And the words of Jerry Seinfeld, we're just walking
Speaker 4: around looking around. Yeah, that's yeah, it's true. So this
Speaker 4: is a follow up from the email that we read.
Speaker 4: Do we read this on a bonus episode or on
Speaker 4: an intro? I think we might have read it on
Speaker 4: a bonus episode.
Speaker 1: I can't remember.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure it was a bonus episode, so you're
Speaker 4: gonna subscribe to find out.
Speaker 1: But it was.
Speaker 4: The subject was I found out my friend as a
Speaker 4: child predator. Basically, to summarize it, Okay, so to summarize it,
Speaker 4: this woman and her boyfriend live together. They have a
Speaker 4: neighbor who's an older guy who was married to a
Speaker 4: woman got divorced.
Speaker 1: Found out through a hair salon.
Speaker 4: Lady that this older guy was in jail or got
Speaker 4: arrested for basically trying to hook up with a fifteen
Speaker 4: Trying to meet up with a fifteen year old. The
Speaker 4: fifteen year old turned out to be like an undercover
Speaker 4: cop or something like that, and so it was a
Speaker 4: bait and switch.
Speaker 1: There was fifteen years right, right exactly, it was fifteen
Speaker 1: year old, was the cop. Yeah, there was no fifteen
Speaker 1: year old.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so old freeze Yeah I know that. O.
Speaker 1: I know it's a heap of fine.
Speaker 3: And also and also here like even on the subject
Speaker 3: fifteen child.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so we had a discussion. We read the email.
Speaker 4: We had a discussion because the girls freaked out. We're like, look,
Speaker 4: pedophilia is a young child, right, That is a different
Speaker 4: caliber of fucked up. Then the caliber of fucked up
Speaker 4: that an older guy trying to bone a teenager is.
Speaker 4: It's they're both fucked up, but they in different ways.
Speaker 1: Well this is third tier.
Speaker 3: Because we looked at the numbers, I'm like, fifteen is
Speaker 3: actually a femophilia. They not even have a FeelA, right right,
Speaker 3: right right, because the fifteen to nineteen it's it's yeah,
Speaker 3: it's the it's so on the spectrum.
Speaker 1: Of predator, it's the chillest one, honestly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's still predator, yeah for sure, for sure,
Speaker 4: But we read it. Still a predator wouldn't be as
Speaker 4: freaked out by it, but like, uh, you know, it's
Speaker 4: fucked up for sure. So we read that email, and
Speaker 4: then she sent us a follow up update from the
Speaker 4: same listener. Okay, update in case you ended up reading
Speaker 4: this whole thing. We did, but on a bonus episode.
Speaker 4: I think it was the last week's bonus episode, well
Speaker 4: two weeks ago, because this is coming out at the
Speaker 4: end of the month. I sent that original email twenty
Speaker 4: four hours after hearing about this incident, okay, so I
Speaker 4: was fresh as hell since then. I shared the news
Speaker 4: with my boyfriend okay, because she was debating not telling him,
Speaker 4: who just kept going what the fuck man sporadically for
Speaker 4: about twenty four hours. It has really fucked with us
Speaker 4: to see a trusted friend in this position, right because
Speaker 4: they were super close and they like loved this guy
Speaker 4: and he was very like, you know, community leader kind
Speaker 4: of thing, the way they always are, right.
Speaker 3: But to me, like this is also like kind of
Speaker 3: like a learning lesson for these people in their lives, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: life is full of your close friends disappointing you, like
Speaker 3: and it's how you respond to that and get past it.
Speaker 3: And I think part of it is just like stop
Speaker 3: putting people on pedestals and really realizing we're all human
Speaker 3: and we all have these huge flaws.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is a little bit more than
Speaker 1: a huge.
Speaker 4: Flob, you know, you know what I say, A little
Speaker 4: fool Yeah, it feels like a movie. John, who is
Speaker 4: the fake name of the neighbor. John has been holed
Speaker 4: away in his apartment. Okay, so I guess it's in prison,
Speaker 4: and neither of us have yet to run into him
Speaker 4: for contacts.
Speaker 1: We normally see him a few times a week on
Speaker 1: the street.
Speaker 4: We noticed his distinctive car has was nowhere to be
Speaker 4: seen for a few days and then and then have
Speaker 4: since put together the pieces that he traded his black
Speaker 4: car for a gray one of the same make and model.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's going to undercover witness protection program right.
Speaker 4: The predator website that listed him on it docks his
Speaker 4: address and information.
Speaker 1: So I guess he is fearful of his own safety.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Normally we can see John from our kitchen window while
Speaker 4: he sits on his balcony. Now I've pulled the blinds
Speaker 4: down in our kitchen for the first time in four
Speaker 4: years living here. We have a skylight in our bathroom,
Speaker 4: which should John go onto the roof?
Speaker 1: Guys, you're thinking John's way more calculated than he.
Speaker 3: Is and also John's not interested in fun. You guys
Speaker 3: no offense?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're too old and you're a woman.
Speaker 4: Should John go onto the roof, which he has easy
Speaker 4: access to, he could technically walk over and look into
Speaker 4: our bathroom. It's not like I don't like, I know,
Speaker 4: I had I lived my thirty fourth Street apartment was
Speaker 4: one of those buildings where there was ak you went
Speaker 4: on the roof and there was a skylight to the
Speaker 4: other apartment looking down.
Speaker 1: It was super easy. But I don't think this guy
Speaker 1: gives a shit about seeing your titties. Girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the fifteen year old boys, there's like a misunderstanding.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like even so even if you are like, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, a pedophile, a have a file, and a febophile,
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean you're just like balls to the wall,
Speaker 3: a crazy sexual person who will do anything and fuck
Speaker 3: anyone who's fucking animals and putting a jerking off utters
Speaker 3: into their mouth Like this is like this is like
Speaker 3: the people people here, Yeah, they just don't It doesn't
Speaker 3: mean that this guy is just fuck walking around sticking
Speaker 3: his dick in anything. And I think it's like we
Speaker 3: don't really understand these things. And that's why everyone just
Speaker 3: thinks the solution is let's go out and kill pedophiles, Like, yes,
Speaker 3: if you there's no understanding.
Speaker 6: You could walk across the zip line and like it's yeah,
Speaker 6: wait no.
Speaker 1: It's a misunderstanding song.
Speaker 3: Unless you have a unless you often have fifteen year
Speaker 3: old bullies over.
Speaker 1: Then I would say cover that skylight.
Speaker 4: Ever since learning about this incident, the skylight started to
Speaker 4: freak me out at night when I can't see on
Speaker 4: the other side of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, again, he's just not that indue.
Speaker 4: Yeah, your head of fhile neighbor is just not that
Speaker 4: concerned about seeing me naked. I can't see on the
Speaker 4: other side of it, even though we would hear footsteps
Speaker 4: if someone was on the roof.
Speaker 1: You're stressing out too much about this.
Speaker 4: And even though neither my boyfriend or I are his type,
Speaker 4: we're not twenty year old boys. Growth I have since
Speaker 4: covered the glass of the skylight with blurring privacy stickers.
Speaker 4: It's just beyond weird to go from thinking it's a
Speaker 4: fun way, it's a fun wave to our friend from
Speaker 4: the kitchen window here and there my boyfriend and I
Speaker 4: assuming and laughing about how he's probably seen us having
Speaker 4: sex in our kitchen at least few times.
Speaker 1: Again, it's probably not interested.
Speaker 4: But also that's also weird on your behalf. Yeah, like
Speaker 4: you should close your blinds your neighbors more like.
Speaker 3: Well, And also the thing is, I think it's like
Speaker 3: kind of what a like almost what.
Speaker 1: A narcissistic heteronormative thoughts.
Speaker 3: I think that they're that you see, obsessed with seeing
Speaker 3: you and your boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Fuck no, he wants to see a fifteen year old
Speaker 1: jerk off.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, he's also grossed out by you, know, the
Speaker 3: same way grossed out by him.
Speaker 1: He's grossed out by you, same side, different coin, uh
Speaker 1: or a different side, same coin.
Speaker 4: The to putting up privacy film over windows, pulling down blinds,
Speaker 4: and holding my breath every time I walk past his door,
Speaker 4: praying he doesn't come out. He doesn't happen to come
Speaker 4: out while I'm walking past, girl, he's gonna one day
Speaker 4: I go, hey, all right.
Speaker 1: See you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I said, this is a small town and
Speaker 4: this next twist I did not see coming.
Speaker 1: Uh oh Okay.
Speaker 4: John made an appearance at a town council meeting to
Speaker 4: clear his name bold.
Speaker 1: I watched a recording you're obsessed with him. No, I
Speaker 1: get it. He stands up there and announces what happened.
Speaker 4: He states that he was coerced into making a false
Speaker 4: confession under false pretenses by a vigilante group who purport
Speaker 4: to expose sexual predators, but whose real goal is to
Speaker 4: destroy for lives for views and likes.
Speaker 3: And I actually agree with his assessment of that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, those people do certainly exist. But there's think
Speaker 3: that John is right about.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I know.
Speaker 3: I think he one hundred percent was looking to meet
Speaker 3: a fifteen year old. But I think these online vigilantes
Speaker 3: are doing it for views and likes, not actually because
Speaker 3: they care so deeply about keeping files off the street.
Speaker 3: That's not really a cause that anyone I don't think actually.
Speaker 1: Cares that much about.
Speaker 3: And specifically, I don't think that this is the way
Speaker 3: if you really want to solve the problem. I don't
Speaker 3: think this is the way to do it. I think
Speaker 3: this is actually a way to ruin more lives.
Speaker 4: Yes, this group uses decoys on dating apps who pose
Speaker 4: as an undera Oh God, okay, Jesus Christ. This group
Speaker 4: uses decoys on dating apps who pose as underage people
Speaker 4: to get adults to agree to meet up.
Speaker 1: But this is not part of the FEDS. Like, this
Speaker 1: is not an official thing.
Speaker 4: It's just like a bunch of a bunch of people
Speaker 4: wanting to catch pedophiles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's lots of online vigilantes, including some comedians that
Speaker 3: do work like this.
Speaker 1: Weird. It's extremely dangird.
Speaker 3: And also like that's weird. You know, you don't know
Speaker 3: exactly what you're doing. There could actually be a mixed miscommunicated.
Speaker 3: I don't think this was a miscommunication, but there could
Speaker 3: be miscommunication, and you're ruining somebody.
Speaker 1: You're ruining someone the entire family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's what people like irresponsible exactly.
Speaker 3: And and also even like okay, so I don't so.
Speaker 3: And also like what if this guy maybe he never
Speaker 3: acts on it before whatever, Like you think that the
Speaker 3: solution or like what he deserves is to kill himself.
Speaker 1: I also don't think that's a good help you. No.
Speaker 4: This group uses decoys on dating apps who poses underage
Speaker 4: people to get adults to agree to meet up, and
Speaker 4: then they confront the predators on camera and post the
Speaker 4: videos on the internet.
Speaker 1: A modern day to catch a predator.
Speaker 4: What happened to John was they confronted him with a
Speaker 4: camera and agreed upon location where they state he was meeting
Speaker 4: up with a fifteen year old boy and familiar So
Speaker 4: John goes on in this council meeting to say that
Speaker 4: the confrontation was frightening, stressful, and confounding.
Speaker 1: He says, uh.
Speaker 4: He says that this organization is not supported by any
Speaker 4: of the local law agencies and that our local prosecutor's
Speaker 4: office does not condone this vigilanty activity. I mean yeah,
Speaker 4: because they could be fucking getting themselves into trouble. What
Speaker 4: if you're fucking with somebody who's got like a bunch
Speaker 4: of guns in a temper. He says he never believed
Speaker 4: the decoy he was talking to was a miner, and
Speaker 4: that he agreed to meet in a public place because
Speaker 4: it would allow me to observe him before going any further.
Speaker 1: Okay, now he's out in himself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this seems like you're saying too much, John, and
Speaker 3: shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1: Less is more meeting before going in front of the
Speaker 1: whole town.
Speaker 4: He says the recording was taken under extreme duress and
Speaker 4: that he'd been charged with criminal offenses based on it.
Speaker 4: He said he's been humiliated and the financial cost has
Speaker 4: been staggering. He says he will not succumb to social isolation,
Speaker 4: and that his friend's family and coworkers have been supportive
Speaker 4: of him. He has asked his neighbors, oh me you
Speaker 4: to uphold the tenants that he is innocent until proven guilty.
Speaker 3: There are some things you can't do with that with
Speaker 3: and anything in the pedophile spectrum are is one of
Speaker 3: those things. And that's the problem with the visual anti work.
Speaker 3: It's a sense you cannot get off you.
Speaker 4: Ever, as if I wasn't already confused enough, I seriously
Speaker 4: cannot explain how much I don't know what to think.
Speaker 1: Assuming he was guilty.
Speaker 4: After watching the first video, I really imagined he would
Speaker 4: stay hold up in his apartment, get fired from his job,
Speaker 4: and maybe even move away. The reason it felt great
Speaker 4: to me in the first place was because of how
Speaker 4: this vigilante group operates. I wondered how much their mission
Speaker 4: in quotes should be taken on face value versus how
Speaker 4: much they do what they do for Internet praise and
Speaker 4: for being the good guys, if any of it is
Speaker 4: faked on their end to make the videos more compelling,
Speaker 4: and how much of a trusted source they really are there,
Speaker 4: you go critical thinking it's what's for dinner. I just
Speaker 4: don't know what to think from the start. I just
Speaker 4: didn't know what to think from the start. I went
Speaker 4: down a rabbit hole of their videos, disgusted and disturbed
Speaker 4: by video after video of men legendly thinking they were
Speaker 4: meeting up with fourteen and fifteen year olds. But now
Speaker 4: that John has stood up in front of the whole town,
Speaker 4: in front of a council who I know for a fact,
Speaker 4: all know him personally. I mean, look, if we were
Speaker 4: thinking about it strategy wise, he could have done that
Speaker 4: on purpose of that. When he does fucking get caught,
Speaker 4: he could say both, I'm a leader in the community
Speaker 4: and claimed victimhood. I am shocked and confused. But the
Speaker 4: fact that I can't shake. The fact that I can't
Speaker 4: shake is that, according to the original video, he went
Speaker 4: to meet up with someone who told them they were fifteen.
Speaker 4: In his council address, he doesn't really explain this, well, yeah,
Speaker 4: because he probably thought they were fifteen, and he's lying.
Speaker 4: He says he didn't believe for a moment that this
Speaker 4: person was actually a miner.
Speaker 1: It's called lying.
Speaker 4: And why would he have met up with someone he
Speaker 4: thought was lying about being fifteen, because he's lying.
Speaker 1: He's lying. This is okay, so welcome to the world.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's lying. It's it's a little bit, it's a lot.
Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's alarming.
Speaker 3: How just you're like rap you rapidly like change your
Speaker 3: their thoughts and opinion like and I also didn't know,
Speaker 3: she I guess maybe we knew. We knew initially that
Speaker 3: she sent us like after twenty four hours, you need
Speaker 3: to take a pause and life.
Speaker 4: A lot of well, I know, I I love that
Speaker 4: these crazy things happen.
Speaker 1: She's like, I gotta write credit Christian.
Speaker 3: Ye, you're having knee reactions right and left, Like I
Speaker 3: don't even think you've you've can say him down, You're
Speaker 3: you're putting things on your windows, you're covered. How about
Speaker 3: taking a fucking breath and sitting down and really thinking
Speaker 3: about this, because honestly, right now you're thinking about whether
Speaker 3: or not you want to be friends with John. I
Speaker 3: don't think John should be friends with you. But no
Speaker 3: matter what he did, you're not a good friend for him.
Speaker 3: If you turned him on him this quickly to this,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want.
Speaker 1: A friend like you.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't I wouldn't you turn your back immediately based
Speaker 3: on one immediately, Yeah, you're there. You're the kind of
Speaker 3: friend who, like a comedian, gets canceled they read one
Speaker 3: BuzzFeed article about them, and you're on the side of BuzzFeed.
Speaker 1: You're not a good friend. You're not a good friend,
Speaker 1: but you got you gotta ride or die with the homies. Yeah, motherfucker.
Speaker 4: And also, if you were friends, you talk to the
Speaker 4: guy and be like, yeah, yeah, what's up? What's this about?
Speaker 4: What's this about? You knock on his door and not
Speaker 4: wait for him to peek into your fucking sun roof.
Speaker 3: John knows what you're doing. John knows you're avoiding him.
Speaker 3: John knows you're covering your windows.
Speaker 4: It's so passive. I hate passive aggressiveness. Yeah, nuts, just
Speaker 4: be aggressive, either confront him or act normally. All this
Speaker 4: in between ship is pussy ass baby shotting like my
Speaker 4: mom and doesn't really add up. He also started in
Speaker 4: the original.
Speaker 3: Now she's doing that, she's turning into an internet sleuth.
Speaker 3: The thing that oh god, who is that girl who
Speaker 3: was missing because her boyfriend killed her? That was missing
Speaker 3: in the desert for a while and everyone turned into
Speaker 3: an h Yeah, shoot, yeah, I forget well because internet
Speaker 3: flu thing like really fucked up that case and made
Speaker 3: it go on way longer than and then now you're
Speaker 3: doing that ship. We gotta stun the internet. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: gotta stop at the gay internet slew thing. There was
Speaker 3: a reason that investigators, our investors.
Speaker 2: They both got killed, didn't they happened?
Speaker 4: He was he was in his parents house and like
Speaker 4: hiding out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, law is still alive. It's on there. Okay.
Speaker 4: So after a week of having this on my mind,
Speaker 4: I've just been stuck on thinking it's gross and weird.
Speaker 4: No one, no matter what the laws are. Okay, you're
Speaker 4: just saying the same thing. Uh Like, no matter what,
Speaker 4: I'm skithed out by sixty something year old who likes
Speaker 4: such young men.
Speaker 1: Okay, side cool.
Speaker 4: I feel like there is something off with someone who
Speaker 4: never moves on from wanting to be with eighteen to
Speaker 4: twenty year olds.
Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, Okay, But.
Speaker 4: At the same time, if no laws are broken, and
Speaker 4: if you really hasn't actually been with minors, but how.
Speaker 1: Could I be sure? Who cares? Oh, Brian Laundry is
Speaker 1: that bard? I'm googling Brian laundry's stuff.
Speaker 2: It's a long email.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: We did the same thing.
Speaker 1: I was like, read.
Speaker 5: Letter.
Speaker 3: We don't need to know your entire internal please, Jesus,
Speaker 3: we have enough going on in.
Speaker 1: Our own head. I know so much, my lord, no idea.
Speaker 1: That's why consciousness over here. Yes, that's why when people
Speaker 1: are like, how dare you not speak? Bitch?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry?
Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm not going to read the rest of it.
Speaker 4: But you'll be fine, girl, You'll be fine.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, just just just don't be friends with him. Wait,
Speaker 1: we have time for one more email? Me make sure? Okay,
Speaker 1: this fine? Oh that's interesting.
Speaker 4: How many minutes do we have, Mike, We're at forty seven? Okay,
Speaker 4: all right, Oh this is oh this is an episode
Speaker 4: episode oka?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, okay, so we'll do two more. This is mine. Okay.
Speaker 3: Do I tell my father that his father your grandpa said?
Speaker 3: Are we trying to make things as actually as complicated
Speaker 3: as possible? Do I tell my father that his father
Speaker 3: for email, now, my grandpa said sexually explicit things to
Speaker 3: my sister and I to explain why he isn't invited
Speaker 3: to my wedding?
Speaker 1: Okay? Do I tell my father why my grandpa hasn't
Speaker 1: invited to my wedding.
Speaker 3: That would be simpler, just I mean, it's like, come on, guys,
Speaker 3: Hi current, Christina, Eric, and Mike if you're still there.
Speaker 3: I have been a long time listener and luminary subscriber.
Speaker 3: I've seen you both do stand up in New York
Speaker 3: and Chicago, and you always kill it. Thank you so
Speaker 3: much for doing what you do. I trually look up
Speaker 3: to you both. My fiance and I have been together
Speaker 3: for seven years. We're both why so long? You know,
Speaker 3: just get do it. We're both dood or del fuck.
Speaker 3: We're both thirty e live in Chicago and our newly engaged.
Speaker 3: We started play our wedding and are super excited. The
Speaker 3: only problem that I've run into is whether or not
Speaker 3: to invite my father's parents.
Speaker 1: Sure wedding girl.
Speaker 3: The short version is I cannot stand them. They are
Speaker 3: creepy and weird, and I haven't seen them in six years.
Speaker 3: The long version is I'm ninety nine percent sure that
Speaker 3: my grandfather molested me as a child. Since I was
Speaker 3: a young kid, I always had a memory of someone
Speaker 3: touching me in the shower. My memory of this doesn't
Speaker 3: allow me to picture who was doing it to me.
Speaker 3: But I can remember the shower, and if my memory
Speaker 3: serves me, it is my grandparents' shower. My mom has
Speaker 3: also told me that my parents left me at my
Speaker 3: grandparents house for the weekend once when I was little,
Speaker 3: and when they came to pick me up, I was
Speaker 3: furiously biting my fingernails down to the nail beds. According
Speaker 3: to my mother, I had never done this before. Okay, well,
Speaker 3: then it seems like your parents needed to parent in
Speaker 3: that moment and didn't. Not just but they didn't need
Speaker 3: to just regel you with the story of your nail beds.
Speaker 3: Jesus fucking Christ. My grandfather also said creepy things to
Speaker 3: me at my sister's graduation party. Specifically, he said, wow,
Speaker 3: you have got to be the prettiest granddaughter in a
Speaker 3: very very creepy way.
Speaker 1: My grandmother heard it and did nothing. I just walked away.
Speaker 3: Over time, I started to tell my sisters of my suspicions,
Speaker 3: and my younger sister shared that when she was little,
Speaker 3: like around six years old, he described in detail to
Speaker 3: her how he lost his virginity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a problem, puzzle pedophile.
Speaker 3: She said that they were in his car so she
Speaker 3: couldn't walk away, but as soon as they got home,
Speaker 3: she immediately ran into the house. She said he never
Speaker 3: touched her, but hearing this makes me want to lose
Speaker 3: my mind, like myself. She never told my parents. My
Speaker 3: parents are not aware of any of this. The reason
Speaker 3: this is connected to my wedding is because I know
Speaker 3: that my dad is going to want to invite my grandparents.
Speaker 1: Well it's not his wedding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he used to be pretty reasonable, but recently he
Speaker 3: seems like he's fully not fully their cognitive Wait, your
Speaker 3: dad or your grandpa, I would say to Dad. He
Speaker 3: flies off the handle easily and says, off the wall. Shit, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's called aging. Recently, I mean, yeah, your parents are
Speaker 3: just gonna get Your parents are just gonna get a
Speaker 3: little whack yer in these later years, and you just
Speaker 3: got to roll with it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Recently he has become very defensive over his side of
Speaker 3: the family and blames us, my mom, my sisters, and
Speaker 3: I for his poor relationship with them.
Speaker 1: Oh, I think we don't.
Speaker 3: I think what we failed to realize with parents is like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know how we're having all these aha moments as
Speaker 3: where the children growing up? Yeah, your parents are too.
Speaker 3: They're not just fucking lost in time. Okay, they're not
Speaker 3: just they don't just freeze. They are also developing emotionally,
Speaker 3: having aha moments, self reflecting, even tho if they're not
Speaker 3: doing it the same way we are as millennials or
Speaker 3: you know or meybeing you're yeah, I guess you're so millennial.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. At thirty, it's like they're still having
Speaker 1: these uh.
Speaker 3: Actualizations too, So like it's almost a little bit demeaning
Speaker 3: the way we speak about our parents sometimes, like they
Speaker 3: are still fucking developing as humans, even if they're not
Speaker 3: doing it the way that we are doing it and
Speaker 3: seeing a therapist, so like relax, to be honest, sometimes
Speaker 3: I don't even want him there.
Speaker 1: But that's for another email.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like there's a bit of a loss
Speaker 3: of empathy in some of these emails for our parents.
Speaker 3: My mom has made it very clear that it is
Speaker 3: my decision to invite who I would like, and they
Speaker 3: will stay completely out of the planning unless I want help.
Speaker 3: I just don't think that my dad feels the same
Speaker 3: way when it comes to his parents. I guess what
Speaker 3: I'm asking is if my dad digs his heels in
Speaker 3: about inviting his parents, Do I tell him about his
Speaker 3: dad being a complete creep so he understands why I
Speaker 3: refuse to interact or communicate with him. I would tell
Speaker 3: him whether or not they're invited to the wedding, because
Speaker 3: he should know. I don't know if I'm comfortable telling
Speaker 3: them about my molestation suspicion because I'm not one hundred
Speaker 3: percent sure it was him, and yeah, that's a big
Speaker 3: claim to make if you're not sure, but I would
Speaker 3: definitely tell them that he has made uncomfortable comments about
Speaker 3: my looks. My sister explicitly told me to tell my
Speaker 3: parents what he said to her if anything is ever
Speaker 3: brought up, because she doesn't want to do it herself,
Speaker 3: but wants them to know that our grandfather is a
Speaker 3: complete creep.
Speaker 1: So she's your sister's making it your problem. That's fun.
Speaker 3: No matter what, my grandparents are not coming. The only
Speaker 3: question is whether or not to disclose why I refuse
Speaker 3: she around them. I know the question is hypothetical, but
Speaker 3: it's very likely that my dad will push back I
Speaker 3: break the news that my grandparents are not invited.
Speaker 1: Any advice is appreciated, thank you.
Speaker 4: I would just say like, Hey, just so you know,
Speaker 4: I've been talked to my grandparents, your parents that in
Speaker 4: six years. It's because they've always given me a really
Speaker 4: creepy feeling, and I've had a lot of memories of
Speaker 4: suspected creepiness happened, but nothing that I could confirm that.
Speaker 4: I talked to my sister and she confirmed some very
Speaker 4: creepy stories. He is allowed nowhere near my wedding. Yeah, also, clothes,
Speaker 4: cut the cord. If you're getting fucking married, it doesn't
Speaker 4: matter what. You have to stand up to your parents.
Speaker 4: They have no set they're not are they paying for
Speaker 4: your wedding? Even if they're not in the marriage, they're
Speaker 4: not getting married. It's so strange, you guys all you
Speaker 4: need to cut the cords a little bit more between
Speaker 4: you and your families.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cut it out. And they were talking to me again. Okay,
Speaker 1: necessarily that, I mean, that's.
Speaker 3: Your choice, but like, yeah, it's just like it seems
Speaker 3: like it's like either it's either like people don't talk
Speaker 3: to their parents at all, or they or they're everything
Speaker 3: they do, they're calling mom and dad.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: I feel like people feel imprisoned to their parents' opinions
Speaker 4: because they forget that, like you're you're the you're the
Speaker 4: keeper of your own life. Your parents actually don't have
Speaker 4: a say, you just think they do, like they're in
Speaker 4: a jail cell the doors wide open.
Speaker 1: A functioning family.
Speaker 3: What should be happening is your parents are spending you know,
Speaker 3: your youth, giving you the tools to go out there
Speaker 3: on your own, and also hopefully teaching you how to
Speaker 3: critically think. And yeah, like the template will involve their
Speaker 3: religious views, their political views, their social views, but hopefully
Speaker 3: it will also include like a yearning and a want
Speaker 3: to know the truth and discover things for yourself. And
Speaker 3: then you go out into the world and you take
Speaker 3: you look at what your parents gave you, and you
Speaker 3: throw some of it away, you alter some of it,
Speaker 3: you keep some of it, and then you create your
Speaker 3: own thing and then you pass that along to your children,
Speaker 3: if you have children, and then they do the same thing. Okay,
Speaker 3: you're not just some carbon copy of your parents. You
Speaker 3: also don't need to be the complete antithesis of your
Speaker 3: parents just because you hate them. I mean, like that's
Speaker 3: an overcorrect because even if you're doing that, like if
Speaker 3: you're rebelling against them and you hate the way you
Speaker 3: grow up, you're in a way if you're just the
Speaker 3: antithesis of your parents.
Speaker 1: You are still that way because your parents, because it's
Speaker 1: against them. Right, you're living.
Speaker 4: Oh you're you're still kind of their puppet. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: you're not your own person. It's gotta be your own person.
Speaker 4: Be your own person, all right. Last email, my boyfriend
Speaker 4: called me by a six year old daughter's name. I
Speaker 4: mean that can I know I'm already reading too much time,
Speaker 4: that's uh yeah, I mean I've I've only ever called
Speaker 4: almost I've almost called boyfriends another boyfriend's name. So many
Speaker 4: times I go through phases of doing that. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: I almost called you, Steve. I'm like, hey, times did it?
Speaker 2: What the fuck?
Speaker 1: And then I'll like not do it for a year.
Speaker 3: Sometimes have you ever like been hanging out with like
Speaker 3: a boyfriend and literally forgotten their name. Sometimes I'll just
Speaker 3: black out and completely forgot what their name is.
Speaker 4: And sometimes I'll feel like you because last time I
Speaker 4: was in a long term relationship was with this other person.
Speaker 4: So I'll feel like I'll call my current boyfriend a
Speaker 4: nickname I had for my last boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's You're just kind of like you know
Speaker 1: it's recite.
Speaker 3: It's all yeah, we're all everyone's replace people and we're
Speaker 3: just going through the motions.
Speaker 4: No one really means anything. Guys, we fucked. I'm a
Speaker 4: twenty six year old woman. My boyfriend's thirty four thirty
Speaker 4: four year old man. We've been together for eight months.
Speaker 4: When we met, I was not looking to date because
Speaker 4: I'm a serial monogamist. Huh okay. I also can't stand children.
Speaker 4: He has three, two boys and one girl.
Speaker 1: Sounds like a great fit. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I always thought the way he obviously favors his daughter
Speaker 4: was strange, okay, but just assumed it was because I
Speaker 4: don't have healthy relationships with my parents.
Speaker 1: Could be I gotta says a lot, though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And when you don't have that kind of bond
Speaker 4: and you see it, you caught part of you that's
Speaker 4: like angry you didn't get that projects of like, well
Speaker 4: that's fucking creepy and weird.
Speaker 1: Now maybe it's just love.
Speaker 3: No, but also just the same way mom's favorite sons
Speaker 3: a lot, dad's favor daughters.
Speaker 1: It's just the way. It's weird.
Speaker 4: Uh. The other night, though we were both up late,
Speaker 4: he was playing video games. I was drinking wine. Watching
Speaker 4: scary movies and all the kids were asleep. Suddenly he
Speaker 4: said his daughter's name, so I thought she had woken up,
Speaker 4: But then he said her name again, and then I
Speaker 4: turned and realized he was talking to me. So all
Speaker 4: I said was I'm not this girl's name, not her
Speaker 4: real Oh okay, I'm not Amy, not her real name.
Speaker 1: He apologized and said that was weird. I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: you should go to sleep.
Speaker 4: I've never dated anybody with children, but ever since that night,
Speaker 4: I can't help but feel like I'm in the way
Speaker 4: of him and his daughter.
Speaker 1: No, he just has a daughter and he talks to
Speaker 1: her a lot.
Speaker 3: Miss, this was a huge leap. This was a huge
Speaker 3: She's one of the huge leaps, and guys, we history.
Speaker 3: I'm actually gonna say, okay, you not.
Speaker 1: All men want to fuck their daughter.
Speaker 3: He accidentally told you his daughter's name once, which is
Speaker 3: the name that I'm sure he uses one hundred times
Speaker 3: a day, and then you left to you're dating a.
Speaker 6: Pedophileh have our patients also at the end of this episode.
Speaker 4: But also, come on, girls, I'll jump a conclusion sometimes,
Speaker 4: but that that's a lot.
Speaker 3: The theme of this episode is looking for huge problems
Speaker 3: where there are.
Speaker 1: Ye, I will say, I imagine your life is pretty peaceful.
Speaker 1: Otherwise if this is the thing you're worried about and
Speaker 1: writing is for, ye, he's not. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: interested in his daughter in more than being her dad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure he thinks of her like as a
Speaker 3: little sweet princess.
Speaker 1: But again, like, yeah, it's a dynamic that happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's normal for the dad to seemingly favor
Speaker 3: the daughter. That's just because my little girl looks at
Speaker 3: his sons as pop is Like it's almost like a
Speaker 3: self hate thing, like right, Like men know how dad,
Speaker 3: many men can be and they see women in a
Speaker 3: different light, So he sees his daughter in a different light.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like so fucking common.
Speaker 3: It's the same way why boy moms hate every girlfriend.
Speaker 3: It's so it's self hate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3: It's self hate because they know the way they that
Speaker 3: they've manipulated men over the years, and they don't want
Speaker 3: that that happening to their son.
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, this is fucking one on one
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yeah, stop, oh my god, all right, guys.
Speaker 3: And it's also not now it's weird that you're thinking
Speaker 3: about it so much. Yeah, I mean, look, maybe you're
Speaker 3: a pedofile. No, we do live in a world where
Speaker 3: there's a lot of pedophiles. There are a lot of them,
Speaker 3: and it's disturbing. But I think your boyfriend's one of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, guys. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Also, I mean, like pedophile you can usually pretty much
Speaker 3: do by looking at him.
Speaker 1: This is very salt salts the earth guy. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like he works at an AutoZone.
Speaker 4: I've never known a picture works at a something more.
Speaker 3: I've never seen a picture of a pedophile and gone,
Speaker 3: oh that was a shocking photo.
Speaker 1: Right, Like, wow, I didn't get pedophile vibes from him
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, every time you get a picture of a pedophile,
Speaker 3: you go, how was everyone in the town not pointing.
Speaker 1: At this guy? Yeah, he's something in the eyes. He
Speaker 1: has a.
Speaker 3: Bagged party city pedophile costume on. Yeah, pedophiles seem to
Speaker 3: go out of their way to let us know with
Speaker 3: everything about their outward appearance that their pedophiles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and are really bad hiding. They're really bad hiding stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they're so bad, I mean, thank god.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but your boyfriend's on a pedophile Yay, congratulations.
Speaker 3: All right, guys, this has been Guys We Fucked, the
Speaker 3: anti slut shaming podcast. We'll talk to you next Friday. Bye, Guys.
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