Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. What's Up?
Speaker 2: What's up with up? Ladies and gentlemen. This is Quest
Speaker 2: Love Supreme. I'm your host Quest Love with three Team Supreme. Like, yeah, hello,
Speaker 2: how are you?
Speaker 3: I am well excited friend.
Speaker 2: I know right, long time coming, long time coming. What's
Speaker 2: you up to? What's what's going on out there?
Speaker 3: Right now? It is not raining, So that's a good thing,
Speaker 3: and that's good.
Speaker 2: It's been raining since. I mean I was there for
Speaker 2: the noest flood of Grammy Knight. It's still been raining since.
Speaker 4: I guess, so I wasn't. I left and went to
Speaker 4: Brazils on Grammy Night. But I heard it. It has been you.
Speaker 3: Heard that Flaws you gotta you gotta drop it. I
Speaker 3: went to Salvador. I have a solid door.
Speaker 1: So you know you went to Brazil for carnival.
Speaker 3: For the best carnival? Yes, yes, flex is that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What once year?
Speaker 1: What was it? Like? Give me your forty five second report?
Speaker 3: I mean Salvador.
Speaker 4: If anybody doesn't know about Salvador, Brazil is beautifully black.
Speaker 4: It's the second largest black populated place outside of the continent,
Speaker 4: so it has all the flavor in all of the
Speaker 4: ways and.
Speaker 3: Just a lot. It was just beautiful.
Speaker 4: It was beautiful and fun and the food takes that
Speaker 4: better there. Yeah, they say, just for you. So you
Speaker 4: know the three different cities. You party in Rio and
Speaker 4: the people in South Polo work, so the people in
Speaker 4: Rio can party.
Speaker 3: And then yeah, the black folks are in Salvador.
Speaker 1: Okay, you didn't go to Rio or the other spots.
Speaker 3: No, I was where you really want to be.
Speaker 4: Literally, Amir, Salvador is the best place to go for carnival.
Speaker 3: I said, it's where the black people are who started it?
Speaker 1: Oh, hey, I didn't know. I'm a product of the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia High School public curriculum.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but you're a world traveler.
Speaker 1: I know. I just go to my hotel, eat my.
Speaker 3: Iron We got them all. I would love to take
Speaker 3: all your salad.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you gotta let us know next time you're going.
Speaker 3: You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right,
Speaker 3: you're right.
Speaker 1: We got to go there to do the Author Vericai episode.
Speaker 1: That's the Author Verkai. Yes, the Author Verica episode.
Speaker 5: That's what we're doing.
Speaker 2: By the way, how you know I didn't get the
Speaker 2: peap heids coyotes collaborative album with him.
Speaker 1: Is it? Have you heard it or haven't listened yet?
Speaker 6: I haven't listened yet either.
Speaker 1: Okay, what's up, Steve, what's going on? How's life great?
Speaker 7: I'm currently imagining a vacation with La to Salvador.
Speaker 1: I need it real bad.
Speaker 7: Everything's great, looking forward to this interview.
Speaker 2: Here here's the dumb question, Steve. I got to ask
Speaker 2: you a work question. Who's on the show today?
Speaker 7: Jennifer Lopez and uh Alan Richson and Gary Clark Jr.
Speaker 1: But we had a great musical guest yesterday. Who Brittany Howard? Oh?
Speaker 2: I was okay. I was not at work yesterday. You
Speaker 2: can't get mad at me, Brittany. I was not at
Speaker 2: work yesterday. I had to take a day off. Things
Speaker 2: were happening. Uh Fan Tickeola. What's what's good man?
Speaker 6: I'm good, Man, I'm good. I'm excited to have Brittany
Speaker 6: here today.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 6: I can't wait to talk about this new album.
Speaker 3: Is hard Hard, got me sweating already.
Speaker 9: Wait are you in California, Bill Sherman, No, I'm in
Speaker 9: New Jersey.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean you're usually in the basement. So I
Speaker 1: was thrown.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so I yeah, I'm not in Black Brazil. I
Speaker 9: have a house in New Jersey and this is what
Speaker 9: it looks like from the kitchen.
Speaker 1: I see, all right, that's that's what's up.
Speaker 4: We got to teach Bill about light. You're supposed to
Speaker 4: be in front of you.
Speaker 9: You I like being the shadows.
Speaker 2: Bill's flexing of his windows structure actually made me think
Speaker 2: he was on vacation somewhere, so I didn't realize that
Speaker 2: was just Jersey ladies and gentlemen our guest today as
Speaker 2: well as everyone said pretty much, we've been waiting a
Speaker 2: long time for this one, and it's finally happened. She
Speaker 2: is a five time Grammy Award winner, and she basically
Speaker 2: pours her entire life experience into her songwriting, her music,
Speaker 2: her production, and you know, she's just a starra within
Speaker 2: Ah at the end of the word star. She's practically
Speaker 2: worked with everyone named it, from Prince to Verrtine White
Speaker 2: to Lemonoel Miranda John Legend. The list goes completely on
Speaker 2: and on and on. She has formed several successful bands,
Speaker 2: including one of my favorite Alabama Shakes. Not to mention
Speaker 2: she's here today to talk about her journey through life,
Speaker 2: her journey through love and music. And we're celebrating the
Speaker 2: release of her sophomore album entitled What Now and Welcome
Speaker 2: Brittany Howard two Quest leftsupre Yes.
Speaker 5: Sir.
Speaker 3: Us for having me, how to do Crystal Bowls and Long.
Speaker 5: Last, Long Last. Hey, everybody, good to be here.
Speaker 1: At Long Last.
Speaker 5: Where are you right now, britt I'm in the city.
Speaker 5: I'm looking out the window Lower East Side.
Speaker 2: Obviously you're you're on the promotional run or you on
Speaker 2: a an actual tour for your album.
Speaker 5: I'm doing both at the same time. I'm on the
Speaker 5: promo run, I'm doing tour. Yeah, that's what we'm I
Speaker 5: here doing.
Speaker 2: As Fante said, congratulations on the record, Like it's it's
Speaker 2: really awesome to hear your artistic growth and and you know,
Speaker 2: just the risk that you're taking the album is incredible,
Speaker 2: and you know all the atholatues that you're getting on it.
Speaker 2: Congratulations are are in order. We we love this record.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to personally thank you for to be
Speaker 6: still like and like, thank you for that record. It
Speaker 6: is beautiful.
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yeah, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a level envy I have when a person
Speaker 2: releases a new record, maybe because I'm constipated ten years
Speaker 2: and holding my own record hostitch. That was like everyone like,
Speaker 2: you know, Gary Clark's records coming out, Fritz Records coming out,
Speaker 2: We just had Kareem Bailey Ray, Like all these albums
Speaker 2: are coming out and I'm like still holding my join hostage,
Speaker 2: and like, so, what is the feeling you feel when
Speaker 2: it's when it's over and you know it's ready?
Speaker 5: What do you mean like when it comes out? How's
Speaker 5: that foot?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, when you're done, Because for me, like albums
Speaker 2: are almost like your kids, I hold this close to
Speaker 2: the chest. I don't play demos for people. I don't say, hey,
Speaker 2: you want to hear a bit of that, Like I'm
Speaker 2: so anxious feel on letting it go. And then there's
Speaker 2: a point where like whenever I always master a record,
Speaker 2: maybe be like two weeks before it's really supposed to
Speaker 2: be turned in because I almost have to have a
Speaker 2: morning process.
Speaker 1: In literally letting your kids go.
Speaker 2: And I want to know, do you go through that
Speaker 2: or is this just like, hey, here are my twelve
Speaker 2: thirteen songs and I'm ready.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like I understand where you're coming from.
Speaker 5: But for me, it's kind of the opposite I'm like,
Speaker 5: I can't wait to get this out in the world,
Speaker 5: because you know how it isn't in this business. You
Speaker 5: have to do the whole album cycle. You do the touring,
Speaker 5: and you have to do the promo, and you do
Speaker 5: all of this for this album. And it's like, as
Speaker 5: soon as I finish the album, I can't wait to
Speaker 5: get it out. It's like a just station process and
Speaker 5: what I imagine a very pregnant woman feels like it's
Speaker 5: like I'm ready for this thing to get out of me,
Speaker 5: you know it, so I can move on with my life.
Speaker 5: And it's kind of what it's like. I'm very proud
Speaker 5: of this project, but I'm also very excited to start
Speaker 5: a new one as well.
Speaker 4: Already.
Speaker 2: Are you a song cycle person or you an album
Speaker 2: cycle person? Like do you just write enough songs for
Speaker 2: the album to come or is it even as the
Speaker 2: album is done, you already have songs in mustache or
Speaker 2: still writing, like.
Speaker 5: There's still something on the cutting room floor. I think
Speaker 5: I still have like six or seven that didn't make
Speaker 5: the album, and it was it was just because it
Speaker 5: was taken too long. Like I was like, all right,
Speaker 5: I got enough here. I don't really want to spend
Speaker 5: any more energy working these out. I'll do this later.
Speaker 5: And I'm definitely like an album cycle person like, as
Speaker 5: soon as it feels like it, it has the feel done.
Speaker 5: It has to feel cooked. And I feel like once
Speaker 5: I have that feeling, it's just like an intuition thing,
Speaker 5: then I'm like, Okay, hear this, this is it. Now
Speaker 5: let's do the sequence.
Speaker 6: Oh what was the period of time between knowing when
Speaker 6: it was done, like just knowing like that feeling you
Speaker 6: were talking about of like, Okay, I feel like this
Speaker 6: is complete, it's cooked. The time between that and it
Speaker 6: actually coming out out and being released.
Speaker 5: Short this time, it was like ten months. Oh wow,
Speaker 5: that's a long long y yeah yeah yeah yeah. Well
Speaker 5: like post pandemic, things are still just taking a long
Speaker 5: time to create because we like final we liked the
Speaker 5: objects when listening to music, takes a long time to
Speaker 5: print those things. Everything's just slower. So it took a
Speaker 5: long time to get the whole shebang ready.
Speaker 4: Really, if this was like a meal, then how long
Speaker 4: was your meal prep and what was the preparation for
Speaker 4: this album? In a sense that this this album is
Speaker 4: going to say this, do you even do all of
Speaker 4: that in your head.
Speaker 5: No, I don't even think about that. It was just
Speaker 5: I started this in March of twenty twenty, so it's
Speaker 5: pretty much like shut down. And I didn't realize I
Speaker 5: was making an album. I was just going and just
Speaker 5: make like songs for fun because the world was terrifying
Speaker 5: and we were all scared. So there's really nowhere it
Speaker 5: turned to. So it's just like I used music as
Speaker 5: my outlet once again. And when I was making this
Speaker 5: album back in twenty twenty, I didn't know I was
Speaker 5: making it. I was just like, it's a journal entries,
Speaker 5: you know, And I told myself, I'm just going there
Speaker 5: no matter what happens. It's okay, doesn't matter what it
Speaker 5: sounds like, doesn't matter the quality of it. It's just
Speaker 5: something to do. And so it's been cooking for such
Speaker 5: a long time. The meal prep has been insane. I
Speaker 5: had walked into the kitchen, cut vegetables, walked back out.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you, how close to March thirteenth,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty did you start the record.
Speaker 5: So I had just finished a London tour, I guess
Speaker 5: the UK tour flew from London, got to New York
Speaker 5: City and we had a fallon lined up, and we
Speaker 5: had different shows lined up we're going to do, and
Speaker 5: I was just looking at the state of things. I
Speaker 5: was like, I don't think, no, this is going to happen.
Speaker 5: So I actually flew home, what like on the twelfth
Speaker 5: or the thirteenth, like I got to Nashville and then
Speaker 5: things shut down, and I feel like I feel like
Speaker 5: I started tinkering with things maybe like a month later.
Speaker 5: I just know, like I finished Tiger King. As soon
Speaker 5: as I finished Tiger King around stuff to do, I
Speaker 5: guess I'll go make music because I'm a musician.
Speaker 6: What did you think of Joe exotic songs in Tiger King?
Speaker 5: Oh shit, I thought that listen, But it wasn't even
Speaker 5: him right. It wasn't, which makes it richer. He just
Speaker 5: wanted to act it out. What do I think about
Speaker 5: the songs honestly as a body of work. As a
Speaker 5: body of work, I'm go go ahead and give it
Speaker 5: a six. Okay.
Speaker 2: A lot of these albums that I'm hearing sort of
Speaker 2: got their genesis or they're beginning in twenty twenty and
Speaker 2: they're just coming out now like four years later. I
Speaker 2: don't think it's a coincidence that for a lot of us,
Speaker 2: a lot of our art that we started creating in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty in sort of the midst of panic and
Speaker 2: the apocalypse air quotes the Apocalypse.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a coincidence.
Speaker 2: So I guess I'll ask you how hard was it
Speaker 2: or what was your relationship to creativity in the apocalypse,
Speaker 2: you know, because like people are dying in real time,
Speaker 2: family members are getting sick in real time, and like
Speaker 2: all these things are happening. But for you, like, were
Speaker 2: you like foxinging or like and I mean like more
Speaker 2: like July August when we don't know if we're coming
Speaker 2: or going.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean my relationship activity was definitely difficult during
Speaker 5: that time. I was seeing like friends, especially on Instagram,
Speaker 5: just like having output output output output, and I couldn't
Speaker 5: believe it. I was like the last you know, kind
Speaker 5: of where I was, Like I said, I was going
Speaker 5: in and out of making little songs. And when I
Speaker 5: say little songs, I mean they're like thirty seconds. They're
Speaker 5: just little ideas. And I pushed myself to do that,
Speaker 5: but honestly, it was like doing anything creative was a
Speaker 5: survival mechanism. For me, couldn't go anywhere, I couldn't see
Speaker 5: my friends, was always concerned about getting sick, was concerned
Speaker 5: what was going to happen next, because not only didn't
Speaker 5: we have the pandemic, but back in Nashville, we had
Speaker 5: just had a tornado that had kind of devastated the
Speaker 5: area where I was living. Oh, And it was like
Speaker 5: one thing after the other, and a lot of people
Speaker 5: like they didn't have rooms on their house, so people
Speaker 5: trying to help each other out at the same time.
Speaker 5: It's an extremely stressful kind of like position to be in.
Speaker 5: So to me, the creativity was my lifeline to any
Speaker 5: normalcy whatsoever. And it wasn't like I needed to have output,
Speaker 5: and it wasn't like I needed to make anything great.
Speaker 5: It was just I just needed to have any type
Speaker 5: of like control at all.
Speaker 2: Really, another commonality in the pandemic was a pivot. Did
Speaker 2: you discover another talent that you had in the pandemic? Uh,
Speaker 2: that you didn't realize you had?
Speaker 5: Man, I think you know, listen, I kind of rediscovered
Speaker 5: my love for fishing. Me and my dad used to fish.
Speaker 5: I was a little girl, and during that time, because
Speaker 5: I lived I lived in the country, I could just
Speaker 5: go by myself and go fishing, and I kind of
Speaker 5: I kind of got good at that. I guess if
Speaker 5: you can if you can say you can get good
Speaker 5: at fishing, yeah, got good at standing there, and.
Speaker 3: She's got good patience. That's what that means, and a
Speaker 3: good fishing.
Speaker 1: Oh, Libra, Okay, Libra.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: October October second. See, I was going, oh god, you're October.
Speaker 3: Uh, just like everybody you know, Wait a second.
Speaker 2: We can't be friends. I'm sorry, there's no room in
Speaker 2: the end. My life is sort of a arted with everyone.
Speaker 2: That's a result of post Valentine's Day.
Speaker 5: Good math.
Speaker 8: I you looked into that h every man drunk in
Speaker 8: the year's Valentine's Day early literally last of September, early October.
Speaker 1: Where were you born?
Speaker 5: I was born in Huntsville Hospital. That's Huntsville, Alabama. I
Speaker 5: was raised in Athens, Alabama.
Speaker 1: What's that town like?
Speaker 5: It's changed a lot now, but back on those littles,
Speaker 5: lots of fields, cows, pastures. It's pretty flat where I live.
Speaker 5: It's got tornadoes, lots of country people. We had good
Speaker 5: diversity though, good diversities, lots of rich people, poor people,
Speaker 5: black folks, white, folks, Mexican folks, all the folks.
Speaker 1: You grew up on a farm or like a city escape.
Speaker 2: I'm asking this because I have ties to Alabama, so
Speaker 2: I'm trying to learn other parts of You.
Speaker 5: Mentioned that to me before. Yeah, but where I'm from
Speaker 5: is rural. It's pretty rural. I live way back off
Speaker 5: the road in the woods, and I grew up like
Speaker 5: kind of like in a farm setting. But also my father,
Speaker 5: my father was he's a tow truck driver, and he
Speaker 5: had a junk yard, so I kind of grew up
Speaker 5: like amongst junk, like a junk yard aesthetic, and also
Speaker 5: had like this beautiful animals running around.
Speaker 1: So were you a learner or you know, did you
Speaker 1: have a community of friends or.
Speaker 5: So I just played with like there was like little boys,
Speaker 5: like the neighborhood little boys, because I lived way back
Speaker 5: in the country off the road, so they would literally
Speaker 5: just drive their little tractors down to my house and
Speaker 5: we would just play in the creek and stuff like that,
Speaker 5: Like it was like country country.
Speaker 4: Yo. Is it just me? I just had this conversation
Speaker 4: with somebody the other day. You just made me think
Speaker 4: of this tomboys. That's not a term that's used anymore.
Speaker 5: But than it was it was.
Speaker 3: I was a tomboy.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, but I don't even know it's politically
Speaker 4: correct anymore.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I haven't thought about it a long time. I don't know.
Speaker 5: But I definitely was one of those, you know, and
Speaker 5: like my you know, it's interesting like my upbringing, Like
Speaker 5: my dad. You know, he's a car salesman and he did,
Speaker 5: you know, the toe jobs and stuff like that, so
Speaker 5: he knew everybody in the community. So he would always
Speaker 5: do like what we call horse trading, which is just
Speaker 5: when you trade this for that. And I remember one
Speaker 5: time he brought me home a pony, and I remember
Speaker 5: being so excited about this pony. I was I only
Speaker 5: girl on the street that had a little pony. And
Speaker 5: the pony wasn't right in the head. So the pony
Speaker 5: would like try to attack us and chase us and
Speaker 5: bite us. It was eating meat. It was eating what
Speaker 5: he was eating meats, It was eating birds.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, not your dream, my little pony.
Speaker 5: No, it was not a dream. But all the kids
Speaker 5: would come down and kind of check out the pony,
Speaker 5: you know. Yeah, So that was my claim to family.
Speaker 2: Now I'm going to ask you around the dumb questions
Speaker 2: that I never asked a person that was anything close
Speaker 2: to equestrian life, because I don't know that many people
Speaker 2: that have owned horses or ponies or any of those things.
Speaker 2: And I hear this all the time, where like one
Speaker 2: day I came home and my dad surprised me with
Speaker 2: and usually a pony.
Speaker 1: What is the general like maintenance of owning one of
Speaker 1: those things? Like I have a farm, now do I
Speaker 1: plan on owning?
Speaker 2: And my farm actually comes with I have like a
Speaker 2: barnyard that's a stable that can hold six of them
Speaker 2: if I chose to own them right now?
Speaker 1: It's for storage. But what's what's the daily care routine
Speaker 1: for that?
Speaker 5: The daily I mean honestly, like when it comes to
Speaker 5: upkeep for a horse you're talking about, you got to
Speaker 5: have your like regular vet visits. You gotta keep up
Speaker 5: with the vitamins.
Speaker 1: Definitely, they take vitamins.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well it goes in the feed.
Speaker 3: We all need nutrition.
Speaker 1: You knew this.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm nturprised.
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not looking at questrian person, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I didn't think I know either when he said, but.
Speaker 5: I remember what we used to do. You gotta take
Speaker 5: care of hooks, You gotta take your care to coat.
Speaker 5: When it's cold outside, you got to make sure that
Speaker 5: everything's right for them. It's hot outside, you got to
Speaker 5: make sure everything's right for them. Like I just did
Speaker 5: a pretty high maintenance really, And they're also expensive, expensive creatures.
Speaker 4: That you gotta buy it a trailer, a mere like,
Speaker 4: and you're gonna take it to the bet.
Speaker 3: You gotta take it to the bet.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just never understood like the casualness of friends
Speaker 2: of mine's, like, yeah, I brought my kid a horse
Speaker 2: or whatever, but you know, I have anxiety trying to
Speaker 2: consider should I get.
Speaker 1: A dog or not, let alone.
Speaker 9: Very different things.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I start with a dog, for sure.
Speaker 2: I'm not even starting with it because I traveled too much.
Speaker 2: But you know, I just generally wanted to know. And
Speaker 2: the neighbors that I have on both sides of the
Speaker 2: house they have horses. I go up and pet it,
Speaker 2: and part of me thinks, like, oh, it's not that bad.
Speaker 2: But I know that there's some real ship that I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 4: So and Brittany ain't say if she kept the pony
Speaker 4: until it turned into a horse, did you did you.
Speaker 1: That's the part I wanted to do at the point
Speaker 1: works that's two different.
Speaker 2: Well, I did not know that. I thought that. I
Speaker 2: thought that ponies were puppies to.
Speaker 5: Horses, their own thing, their own thing. Ponies do not
Speaker 5: turn into worses.
Speaker 3: Wait wait wait what they.
Speaker 5: Do not turn into horses? Ponies is his own thing.
Speaker 1: And they stay that size.
Speaker 5: They stay that size. Yeah they say that size, that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and they're kind of mean, to be honest with you.
Speaker 5: Ponies are not super nice, really attitudes. All the ponies
Speaker 5: I met have attitudes.
Speaker 4: Even the Shetland ones like real cutely, this is about
Speaker 4: our enemy advertising.
Speaker 6: National Geographic Request, Love Supreme and Brittany.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, dude, this this platform is more for me
Speaker 2: to learn shit, more than their records already mentioned the record.
Speaker 2: I want to learn about this shit. How long did
Speaker 2: you keep the pony before it was like okay, no more?
Speaker 5: Not long a trade? You know, we kind of traded things.
Speaker 1: Up so like and that's just common, that's.
Speaker 5: Common around where I'm from. Yet, and so we had
Speaker 5: traded like we had a quarter horse at first, and
Speaker 5: then we traded the the quarter horse is like it's
Speaker 5: like twenty five years old, so like, I couldn't do
Speaker 5: anything with it, so we traded it for the pony.
Speaker 5: And the whole reason we got the pony because the
Speaker 5: pony was meaning to bite you. So that traded the
Speaker 5: pony for a Gokart and then we were cool from
Speaker 5: then on, no more horse. It's a good trade. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And what's this level of trading called again?
Speaker 5: This is called horse trading?
Speaker 9: Horse trading?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the term I never heard before.
Speaker 2: So is it a thing where like once a month
Speaker 2: you take what you want to trade to a place
Speaker 2: and you trade it or you just go to your
Speaker 2: neighbor and be like, yo, what you want for this?
Speaker 5: It's a lifestyle. It's a lifestyle.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 5: It's like I've been noticing that you have this in
Speaker 5: the yard is a run. So I's like, well I
Speaker 5: could run, I just ain't took it in. It's like, well,
Speaker 5: I got this, I'll trade you this for that, and
Speaker 5: then it's your job getting running. And then you take
Speaker 5: that thing that now runs and trade it for something
Speaker 5: else that you want. You know, you just trade up.
Speaker 1: I got it now. Can you tell me what your
Speaker 1: first musical memory was?
Speaker 5: Oh? Man, first musical memory. My grandmother had like one
Speaker 5: of those big consoles that has like the eight track
Speaker 5: player and the record player and the speakers built in.
Speaker 5: And I remember being really young, maybe four, and messing
Speaker 5: around with all the vinyl yes and pulling out some
Speaker 5: of the albums and had them all on the floor,
Speaker 5: and my Grandma's like, what you're doing, you know, like
Speaker 5: don't break them and all this, and I remember her
Speaker 5: putting on the Thriller out them, but I remember hearing.
Speaker 5: I remember hearing the speakers because it's like a tube system.
Speaker 5: Remember them warm up, and then I could hear, you know,
Speaker 5: songs of Thriller coming out of the speakers and being like,
Speaker 5: what the hell is this? You know, kind of kind
Speaker 5: of amazed in the name of by the whole thing,
Speaker 5: not just the music, but just all of it, you know,
Speaker 5: the warmth of it coming on?
Speaker 2: Was that your kind of I don't mean come to
Speaker 2: Jesus moment, but for you, was that like the moment
Speaker 2: where it's like, Okay, well I want to also express
Speaker 2: myself in this way through music or.
Speaker 5: Nah, so no, not really. I mean I had that
Speaker 5: kind of moment when I was eleven. I was in
Speaker 5: middle school and in my middle school. I don't know
Speaker 5: what if a grade eleven is fifth or sixth grade,
Speaker 5: And there was a band from our school that had
Speaker 5: rented out our gym and they were gonna put on
Speaker 5: a show. And I remember all throughout the day everybody
Speaker 5: was asking, are you gonna go to the show? You're
Speaker 5: gonna go to the show? I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 5: I'll see if I can get there. And so I
Speaker 5: get to the gym and I'm by myself. I remember
Speaker 5: being like super anxious because I don't really know anybody
Speaker 5: at well. And the band plays and amusing them play
Speaker 5: on stage and kids I went to school with. It
Speaker 5: was like I didn't know these kids could do this.
Speaker 5: There were so talented. Look at the effects they're having
Speaker 5: on people. It was songs that I liked and I knew,
Speaker 5: and it was like the coolest thing I had ever seen.
Speaker 5: And it was in that moment standing in the gym
Speaker 5: that I knew I wanted to be in a band,
Speaker 5: and I wanted to make my own music and I
Speaker 5: wanted to be up there like they were, like. I
Speaker 5: think that was a come to Jesus moment for me.
Speaker 2: Okay, how long before you found other people that sort
Speaker 2: of had a common love for music, Like was music
Speaker 2: something that you kept close to the chest, or like
Speaker 2: how big was the music community down there?
Speaker 5: It was a it was. It was so small. I
Speaker 5: had to teach people how to play music to be
Speaker 5: in a band.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: So I would go teach myself the instruments, and then
Speaker 5: I would go back to school and I would just
Speaker 5: try to find a kid with some sort of musical
Speaker 5: talent like rhythm, and I'd be like, Okay, hey, do
Speaker 5: you want to learn how to play bass guitar? Like
Speaker 5: do you want learn how to play drums? And I
Speaker 5: I would tutor them and see if that get to
Speaker 5: a pointment where we could make music together. Some yes,
Speaker 5: but a lot no, Like it just didn't happen. I
Speaker 5: was trying to make it happen. And it wasn't until
Speaker 5: I was probably like sixteen years old that I finally
Speaker 5: met some kids who also were interested in making music.
Speaker 5: And that was Zach Zach Copple Bassis for Alabama Shakes,
Speaker 5: and then he Fogg who became a guitar player, and
Speaker 5: it was them. So this whole thing really started from
Speaker 5: my school.
Speaker 2: Was guitar, your very first instrument of choice or did
Speaker 2: play other instruments as well.
Speaker 5: My first instrument, I guess technically is like piano, and
Speaker 5: then drum, a drummer heart and then basically yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: a lot of my yeah, a lot of the drums
Speaker 5: on my new record. I programmed those drums. I'm not
Speaker 5: saying I could play them like that, but I can
Speaker 5: hear it, you know, and uh yeah. Then I learned bass,
Speaker 5: and then I only learned guitar because I had to.
Speaker 5: I didn't really want to play guitar really, no, I
Speaker 5: want to be in the rhythm section. I just one
Speaker 5: I want to play bass.
Speaker 3: What is the gap though?
Speaker 4: Wait, the gap in between you knowing you wanted to
Speaker 4: do this and you teaching folks that the music, Like,
Speaker 4: how are you learning? You never kind of said that yet,
Speaker 4: you just yeah.
Speaker 5: So at firstly I didn't have those instruments like drums.
Speaker 5: I could have access to drums because there were a
Speaker 5: set of drums at our school, so I could go
Speaker 5: play those drums after school. When it came to bass guitar,
Speaker 5: I would just borrow one from one of the rich kids, because, like,
Speaker 5: I don't know what it was about school, Well, all
Speaker 5: the rich kids had a bass guitar, let me borrow it,
Speaker 5: you know, and let me borrow it. And so I
Speaker 5: taught myself how to do that. And the guitar my
Speaker 5: my sister had a guitar like tucked away back in
Speaker 5: the closets, like one of those jcpenny guitars that looks
Speaker 5: like a less Paul and it's like it's like one
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty pounds. And that's what I learned on
Speaker 5: was that guitar. So I was teaching myself.
Speaker 3: How long did it take?
Speaker 5: I mean, I haven't mastered any of those instruments, right,
Speaker 5: that's what we're doing, okay, no, no, no, no no no. Honestly,
Speaker 5: I was just learning as I went. So if I
Speaker 5: picked something up, I would make something with it. I
Speaker 5: would just learn as I went. So from from the
Speaker 5: very beginning, I wanted to make my own music. That
Speaker 5: was like the whole goal. That was like the whole purpose.
Speaker 5: But when I was originally learning, I had to learn
Speaker 5: other people's songs. So I just started with stuff that
Speaker 5: was easy, like like Blink on a two, and I
Speaker 5: was like kind of things like that that are pretty
Speaker 5: easy power chord stuff, you know.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask you am I the only one
Speaker 1: that goes through this?
Speaker 2: Like sometimes when we'll ask people about their childhood, you're
Speaker 2: thinking about your childhood too, but then you realize that
Speaker 2: their childhood is actually your adulthood like childhood, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: wait a minute. I was thirty three years old when
Speaker 2: that came.
Speaker 1: Out, like.
Speaker 5: Pretty, don't do the math, don't do the math.
Speaker 1: Don't do it.
Speaker 5: Don't do it. It hurts.
Speaker 1: I give my feelings hurt.
Speaker 2: I guess when we first played together was at the
Speaker 2: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland and we
Speaker 2: were doing a tribute for Big Mama Thornton. In your childhood,
Speaker 2: was there did anyone ever put you onto her? Or
Speaker 2: was it like later in life when you discovered her.
Speaker 2: I'm for a so called music historian. I you know,
Speaker 2: I admit, and I'm ashamed of myth that. I was
Speaker 2: probably in my mid forties before someone explained to me
Speaker 2: who Big Mama Thornton was, even though like I've heard
Speaker 2: hound Dog and all that stuff all my life, but I.
Speaker 5: Remember doing his sister. Was that a tharp?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know what you want to edit that? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: quest love makes mistakes. Yes, I had a brain fart.
Speaker 9: I'm sorry he was Atorian questlove.
Speaker 1: Things. I'm sorry. I meant Sister Rose at a thought.
Speaker 2: Yeah, were you at all familiar with her in your
Speaker 2: childhood or did that come to you later in life.
Speaker 5: It definitely came to me later in life, maybe mid twenties.
Speaker 5: Mid twenties is when I started getting curious about these
Speaker 5: women blues players, right, And then I had started hearing about, well,
Speaker 5: there's this woman that kind of inspired Chuck Berry and
Speaker 5: inspired of us Presley and had the electric guitar. And
Speaker 5: someone told me about it because I played an SG
Speaker 5: and they're like, oh, this like sister was at a tharpe.
Speaker 5: She also put a SG. She put an SG custom
Speaker 5: in white. And I was like, oh, I've never heard
Speaker 5: of her. So I started looking into her stuff and
Speaker 5: I was like, the stuff she's actually playing on the
Speaker 5: guitar is so was unique. It's it's her voice on
Speaker 5: that guitar. Nobody else is doing it. It's crazy, it's
Speaker 5: actually hard, it's hard to play how she's playing. And
Speaker 5: so that's when I kind of started diving into her
Speaker 5: stuff and in her story, which her story is really
Speaker 5: interesting as well.
Speaker 2: In your childhood or in your teens. Who was your
Speaker 2: north star by that point as far as like singing
Speaker 2: was concerned, as far as like who's just like your
Speaker 2: go to artists that you loved.
Speaker 5: In my teens, It was David Bowie. Wow. Yeah, because
Speaker 5: it was like the Hole aesthetic and the songwriting was
Speaker 5: like it had like a lot of different mixtures in it,
Speaker 5: which I really liked. It had like some some show
Speaker 5: tunes to it as well, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Like I can hear his inspirations being like from Broadway,
Speaker 5: and then like also he was taking things like from
Speaker 5: Kabuki theater, and he was borrowing rhythms from R and
Speaker 5: B and he was doing jazzy things, and it was
Speaker 5: just fascinating to me. And I liked his voice. I
Speaker 5: thought it was really interesting how I used his voice too.
Speaker 5: He wasn't trying to be like a professional singer, technical singer.
Speaker 5: It was just he was just like giving like he
Speaker 5: was giving vignettes. He was giving like small scenes from
Speaker 5: a movie or something every song. I thought that was cool.
Speaker 5: So I became obsessed with.
Speaker 3: It, Okay, obsessed to what levels.
Speaker 5: I had everything. I had everything he had ever done.
Speaker 6: You have Labyrinth?
Speaker 3: Yes, I was about I love it.
Speaker 6: Yes, okay, I was like, okay, what era of boy
Speaker 6: is this?
Speaker 3: Early?
Speaker 6: Is this eighty four?
Speaker 4: Literally?
Speaker 5: Oh, I was listening to like ten Man, I was
Speaker 5: listening to all of it. I didn't like it. I
Speaker 5: listened to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah it yeah, you know, it's weird, all right. So
Speaker 2: I worked in a record store eighty eight eighty nine
Speaker 2: when the first tim in the album came out, and okay,
Speaker 2: so we traded in the record store for the Internet.
Speaker 2: But if you hang out in a record store long enough,
Speaker 2: you're going to meet two or three know it all
Speaker 2: snobs that have their like unsolicited opinions on stuff, and
Speaker 2: suddenly their opinions become your opinions. And working in that
Speaker 2: record store and like, think of Jack Black's character and
Speaker 2: U yeah, yeah, Like I had like two of those guys,
Speaker 2: and you know, we had to put the ten Men
Speaker 2: display up and all that stuff, and they were just like, ah, man,
Speaker 2: this shit sucks. And of course, you know, everyone wants
Speaker 2: you to go back to when you know, your first
Speaker 2: seven years, when you're blowing everyone's mind and when it
Speaker 2: was just your secret before the world had you. And
Speaker 2: it's so weird because I'm working on this doc right
Speaker 2: now and Timmin's performance, I will say that if you
Speaker 2: really give and if you can find any of their
Speaker 2: performances online. And I don't know how much they did.
Speaker 2: I know they did a few promotional shows and whatnot,
Speaker 2: but I would almost say that tim Men was almost
Speaker 2: like a precursor to grunge. Yeah, I mean, if I
Speaker 2: can borrow from gen Z, it was. It was giving,
Speaker 2: it was given Soundgarden, it was giving alls and chains,
Speaker 2: it was borderline. It was somewhere between like early Smashing Pumpkins.
Speaker 2: And I know when we say grunge, you just automatically,
Speaker 2: non grunge hits will just think like, oh smells like
Speaker 2: teen spirit, you.
Speaker 1: Know, that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: But I mean, yeah, like I realized that Oh Bowie's
Speaker 2: fan base had the younger generation after the same thing
Speaker 2: with Prince. If you remember that Prince got booed at
Speaker 2: the Rolling Stones opening for the Rolling Stones back in
Speaker 2: eighty one, Like baby boomers were not Prince's audience. Prince
Speaker 2: was the older brother of gen X, So you know,
Speaker 2: some three or four years later that audience is going
Speaker 2: to grasp the Prince And yeah, it's it's weird that
Speaker 2: even I would say that all Bowie fans should probably
Speaker 2: revisit ten Man, or at least try to find them
Speaker 2: in concert. It was actually awesome. Like if you're a
Speaker 2: fan of grunge, I would say that they're the percursive
Speaker 2: to that.
Speaker 1: So, but that's my opinion anyone else besides Bowie.
Speaker 5: Let's see started off pretty hard with David Bowie, and
Speaker 5: then I found out about Pink Floyd. I hadn't heard
Speaker 5: Pink Floyd before. I remember being like, oh, it's like fifteen,
Speaker 5: riding in the back of my friend's car and she
Speaker 5: starts playing it was the Dark Side of the Side
Speaker 5: of the Moon. Yeah, yeah, And I was like, what
Speaker 5: the hell is this? This is this is so many
Speaker 5: different types of music. This is like jazz, this is
Speaker 5: like I never heard any type of music like it.
Speaker 5: I remember hearing it in the back of a buckless sound.
Speaker 5: I remember hearing hearing it, and I remember getting so
Speaker 5: excited because I didn't know you could do music like
Speaker 5: I don't know you could take everything like that, mix.
Speaker 1: It together without psychedelics.
Speaker 5: No psychadelics. I just I'm just getting ride home from school.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's what's said. Have you have you ever
Speaker 1: done The Wizard of Oz test to it.
Speaker 5: No, I've never done that.
Speaker 1: Have you heard about it?
Speaker 5: I've heard about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's up until maybe the end of money.
Speaker 5: It literally it really does.
Speaker 1: If it's perfect, is.
Speaker 3: The wisd of is it?
Speaker 1: I thought it was pulled the Wall and not Dark.
Speaker 2: Nah, a dark said on the third line where you're
Speaker 2: supposed to start. You're supposed to start the record on
Speaker 2: the third line. Roar of MGM. And literally it plays
Speaker 2: perfectly even when it turns into color.
Speaker 1: That's when the.
Speaker 2: Bells money starts money and they start doing the dance
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. And then towards the end it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: now he definitely did it up until money.
Speaker 1: I'll say that much. Have you ever watched The Wall?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I first saw The Wall in the like The
Speaker 2: Wall was the first pandemic film that I watched before
Speaker 2: I started obsessing over Fantasia. And I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: I it's almost like we owe Roger an apology letter
Speaker 2: because I know that, you know, for all intents and purposes,
Speaker 2: like we credit Michael Jackson for video innovation, but for
Speaker 2: that thing to come out in nineteen seventy nine, which
Speaker 2: is basically pretty much you know, if you were to
Speaker 2: take like the fifteen best videos you've seen on MTV
Speaker 2: for the first four years.
Speaker 1: Like between eighty one and eighty five.
Speaker 2: Then I would say, like The Wall was all that
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy nine, and he just never truly got
Speaker 2: the credit. Like again, I discovered The Wall in twenty two,
Speaker 2: like long after after that effect, so I you know,
Speaker 2: I highly recommend it.
Speaker 5: But I mean, yeah, when I was in high school,
Speaker 5: I was like a cult classic. If you had to
Speaker 5: sit down and watch The Wall, we all knew it
Speaker 5: was something special and everybody was, you know, trying to
Speaker 5: experiment with drugs and watch The Wall and we're at
Speaker 5: a party the Walls on like that was like the
Speaker 5: cool thing, you know.
Speaker 1: Yep, I recommend it. You know, before twenty twenty, I
Speaker 1: really wasn't big on drinking or psychedelics at all, like
Speaker 1: an occasional cookie or a gummy of that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: But you know, most people said, like you'd experienced it outside.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm still not an outside person. I want to
Speaker 1: be inside when I do it because I don't know,
Speaker 1: fear of control or whatever. But someone suggested to me
Speaker 1: to watch Fantasia and there's two verds there's Fantasia and
Speaker 1: then Fantasia two just came out in two thousand. Without Psychedelics.
Speaker 2: You'll see something in that movie, but with it, Oh
Speaker 2: my god, there's there's a it's a whole nother level
Speaker 2: of like.
Speaker 1: I use that pretty much.
Speaker 2: I'd watch it like once maybe twice a week while
Speaker 2: kind of making, and then after that I would get
Speaker 2: ideas for Summer of Soul, like oh, want to do
Speaker 2: this and that and this and that, and kind of
Speaker 2: the panic level of Summer of Soul's editing. I would
Speaker 2: say was really inspired just by like ideas I had
Speaker 2: from doing that. Sometimes you have to get into someone
Speaker 2: else's art in order to.
Speaker 1: Create your own.
Speaker 2: I want to ask, so, did you start Permuta Triangle
Speaker 2: before the Alabama Shakes.
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: That was after, okay after, So Alabama Shakes was your
Speaker 2: first first group?
Speaker 1: Can you talk about the formation of that?
Speaker 5: So, I you know, I was. I was in high
Speaker 5: school and I have been looking for people to play
Speaker 5: with and as seen a couple of guys in my
Speaker 5: school that were interested in music, playing music, and they
Speaker 5: were like dedicated to it. So I really wanted to them.
Speaker 5: I was trying to figure out some younger than them
Speaker 5: and me being me, I was like, why would they
Speaker 5: want to talk to me? Like I'm younger than them,
Speaker 5: I look different than them. We don't travel in the
Speaker 5: same groups. I don't know how I'm gonna have my end.
Speaker 5: So I went made a little demo like by myself,
Speaker 5: and I used to use like audacity, so it's like
Speaker 5: super easy to record with. Sounded terrible back back in
Speaker 5: the day, and so I brought him to a CD
Speaker 5: and I was like, Hey, this is to Zach bass
Speaker 5: player who later became the bass player of Alabama Shakes.
Speaker 5: I was like, hey, I made this music. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I just wonder if you everyone to come like jam
Speaker 5: on me sometime play music with me. Sometimes he was
Speaker 5: like yeah, let's go listen to it. So we go
Speaker 5: to the parking lot of high school sitting in his
Speaker 5: Honda chord. He plays it and he's like, oh, this
Speaker 5: is cool. He's like, yeah, I'd like to like to
Speaker 5: come over and play. So that's spout when I was
Speaker 5: like fifteen sixteen, and me and Zach started playing every
Speaker 5: day and we were learning how to play like at
Speaker 5: the time, it was like prog rock. So we're like
Speaker 5: doing yes and King Crimson. We're like learning that kind
Speaker 5: of stuff. This is new to me, but I'm fascinated
Speaker 5: by it because it's all really technically different, cool stuff.
Speaker 5: And we started writing together and then we made a
Speaker 5: demo and Heath, who later became a guitar player for
Speaker 5: The Shakes, heard that and was like, I want y'all
Speaker 5: to open, Like, can y'all open for my band? And
Speaker 5: I was like, man, we don't even got a band.
Speaker 5: It's just like us. So we went down to the
Speaker 5: music store and the best drummer in town worked at
Speaker 5: the music store. We only had one music store in town. Hey, man,
Speaker 5: you want to come play with us. He's like, I
Speaker 5: don't know. We show him our demo. He's like, I'll
Speaker 5: check it out. Come by, I'll see what y'all about.
Speaker 5: So then we started playing together and then we opened
Speaker 5: up for Heat's group, and honestly, that's like, what did it?
Speaker 5: The first time we played together, we knew that we
Speaker 5: had something, and so we started them working on our
Speaker 5: own material and that later became the Albama Shik's Four
Speaker 5: of Us.
Speaker 1: I got hip to you guys via Jack White.
Speaker 2: It was pretty much like you know, screwing from the
Speaker 2: Mountaintops about you guys and whatnot for you? Did you
Speaker 2: have any expectations of where this journey was going to
Speaker 2: take you in terms of, like.
Speaker 5: I'm trying, from the time we started a band, which
Speaker 5: I'm saying we started a band when I probably had
Speaker 5: just graduated high school two thousand and seven, I'd say, like,
Speaker 5: that's really when we started playing our own shows with
Speaker 5: our own music. And then I feel like whenever Boys
Speaker 5: and Girls came out with like twenty twelve, eleven, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, it wasn't that long, but we played all
Speaker 5: the time, and we played for no money, and all
Speaker 5: we did was get together Tuesdays and Thursdays and write
Speaker 5: new music, write new music, write new music, work on
Speaker 5: the set, work on the set. And to me, it
Speaker 5: was just like miraculous that anything happened at all because
Speaker 5: at a certain point, I just I just like accepted
Speaker 5: that I was going to be a male carrier. I
Speaker 5: was going to deliver mail and I'll play music on
Speaker 5: the side, and that was going to be my life.
Speaker 5: I was okay with that.
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask, because I'm curious about band dynamics,
Speaker 2: like anyone being a band or a unit in.
Speaker 1: Know post millennial times.
Speaker 2: It's almost like as it's like aliens landing, because you know,
Speaker 2: pretty much life is built for the solo artists post
Speaker 2: art post two thousand. When the band is forming, is
Speaker 2: there a general agreement like of who the leader is?
Speaker 2: Or is it like a thing where it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: it's democracy and we all have a say, or like
Speaker 2: how do.
Speaker 1: You handle.
Speaker 2: Banned decisions and whatnot? Like how do you how do
Speaker 2: you deal with those dynamics?
Speaker 5: For us, it was a democracy that's we honestly communicated
Speaker 5: a lot why or why not we shouldn't do something right?
Speaker 5: And the better you were and just talking about your
Speaker 5: feelings usually the more.
Speaker 1: What's that, the.
Speaker 5: More the more it will go your way because the
Speaker 5: better the better you were, the better you were communicating
Speaker 5: why you didn't want to do this. It was it
Speaker 5: was almost like in a court of law, but it
Speaker 5: came from an emotional place. I really don't want to
Speaker 5: do this because X y Z, this is cheesy, this
Speaker 5: is that, this is yeah. Yeah, you know, if you
Speaker 5: were quieter, you didn't get as much as your wife
Speaker 5: because it's like nobody's hearing what you have to say.
Speaker 5: But we would all sit down and talk.
Speaker 2: You know, Okay, I would assume that their reception of
Speaker 2: boys and girls was not overwhelming, but it was definitely,
Speaker 2: you know, to come out the gate. And I'm speaking
Speaker 2: as a person that took four attempts to finally come
Speaker 2: out the gate. What is it like on your debut
Speaker 2: to come out the gate and instantly become critical dartlings
Speaker 2: And what is that feeling?
Speaker 5: Surreal? So absolutely surreal.
Speaker 2: You described like the first moment when you realize like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, we're really going to be a thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do. I do remember it. It popped in
Speaker 5: my head as soon as you said I remember. It
Speaker 5: was in Nashville on Broadway and there's like the Secret Club.
Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know anything about that life.
Speaker 5: We had just got through playing the Blue Room with
Speaker 5: Jack White. Jack White invited just to play his third
Speaker 5: Man records, and I was excited to meet Jack White
Speaker 5: because I love the White stripes. And then if kings
Speaker 5: Leon is there, and I at the time, like I
Speaker 5: had like the first two records, loved kings Lynn and
Speaker 5: they're coming up, They're coming up to me and they're like,
Speaker 5: you know, I think you're gonna make it like all
Speaker 5: this stuff, you know, and I'm like, these guys tell
Speaker 5: me I'm gonna make it. And so I remember going
Speaker 5: to the secret little bar after the show, and you know,
Speaker 5: it was kind of fancy. I'd never been in that
Speaker 5: environment before. And I remember there's a balcony outside. It
Speaker 5: was me and the drummer, Steve, and I go out
Speaker 5: there and and Steve were crying and I was like,
Speaker 5: I looked at him. I was like, why are you crying?
Speaker 5: He was like, I just think I really think we're
Speaker 5: gonna do something. And I was like, damn, you think so.
Speaker 5: And then I started crying and We're just out there
Speaker 5: this emotional moment that's like, I can't believe this is
Speaker 5: happening to us. It was just all of our circumstances.
Speaker 5: It was just like such a miracle happening in our lives.
Speaker 5: It was just like it's like a Superman came in
Speaker 5: to save you, you know, you.
Speaker 3: Huh yeah, yeah. It's like right on, so much of.
Speaker 5: My life at the poverty line, and now I had
Speaker 5: an opportunity for the first time ever, you know, And
Speaker 5: that's what it felt like.
Speaker 1: You all collectively moved to Nashville or No.
Speaker 5: I was the first one to move to Nashville, and
Speaker 5: that was later. It was like much later. Yeah, I've
Speaker 5: say Nathan's for a long time.
Speaker 2: I'm being told that Nashville is pretty much the last
Speaker 2: bashion of hope for the serious musician? Is it that
Speaker 2: like every singer songwriter I know, especially now, like I
Speaker 2: peeped one person's Instagram feed and suddenly, you know, like
Speaker 2: when you peep one Instagram feed, your algorithms was suddenly
Speaker 2: I didn't realize the staggering amount of songwriters and I
Speaker 2: just thought like, oh, it must be just country. No,
Speaker 2: it's every musician is like I gotta go to Nashville
Speaker 2: to make it the way that an actress is like
Speaker 2: I gotta go to Hollywood. What is it about Nashville
Speaker 2: that just calls out not even a musician.
Speaker 1: You what is it? What is it? For me?
Speaker 5: It was a practical thing. Nashville Airport goes a lot
Speaker 5: of different places. That's really all it was. And I had,
Speaker 5: you know, when I moved there initially, so I'm from
Speaker 5: a small town. Nashville was kind of besides Birmingham, that
Speaker 5: was the next biggest town. That's where you could go
Speaker 5: see the bands you want to see who go see
Speaker 5: live music. So I was always going up there to
Speaker 5: go see bands, and so I made friends up there,
Speaker 5: so naturally I wanted to go to be where my
Speaker 5: friends were. So that's how I ended up in Nashville.
Speaker 5: But I stay in Nashville because it's practical. Like my
Speaker 5: family's an hour and a half away, the airport's fifteen
Speaker 5: minutes away. Now I have good friends in the city,
Speaker 5: and that's I mean. I'm not gonna say I get
Speaker 5: out there and watch a lot of music. I don't really,
Speaker 5: I'm kind of a home by.
Speaker 2: I just want to say congratulations, Brittany Howard. You you've
Speaker 2: continued a long tradition quest love supreme antics where I
Speaker 2: will romanticize something and if you subject just takes this
Speaker 2: and does this.
Speaker 3: But there is a beauty to Nashville. I've only lately.
Speaker 4: I had never been there in my whole life up
Speaker 4: until the last five years, because of the whole because
Speaker 4: they have the Black Music Museum now in Nashville, which
Speaker 4: I'm on a small board for. But also witnessing like
Speaker 4: Black Americana and some of those bands and the rise
Speaker 4: of like black folks claiming their country again is a
Speaker 4: beautiful It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 5: It is beautiful.
Speaker 1: It is beautiful, and.
Speaker 5: I do love that about Nashville. And I actually love
Speaker 5: the younger people that live there now in the music
Speaker 5: that they're doing. It's actually really exciting. We got like
Speaker 5: house clubs now. Well I don't know if I just
Speaker 5: say that, but like we have house parties.
Speaker 2: Now Brittany's my house music but actual house yeah, joint
Speaker 2: meaning or.
Speaker 5: Well, it's like, you know, everything they do is legal.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying there.
Speaker 2: And okay, no, no, no, I thought you in the house music,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, a club culture is coming to Nashville.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 5: No, that is what I'm saying. That's what That is
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, And.
Speaker 5: They get their own speaker systems together and it's cool.
Speaker 5: It's like really cool. It's really lively. I'll go out.
Speaker 5: I'll go to that, but not for long because I
Speaker 5: like to sleep nowadays, but like I'll go for a
Speaker 5: couple of hours, you know what I mean. And there's
Speaker 5: that happening in Nashville. That's cool. And there's a part
Speaker 5: of me that almost wants the gate keep it, to
Speaker 5: keep it pure, because Nashville, you have to keep in
Speaker 5: mind it's also a tourist town, but we also have
Speaker 5: to live in a tourist town.
Speaker 1: You don't already coming colnizing your precious now.
Speaker 4: Amazon already moved to Nashville. Honey, it's official.
Speaker 3: It's it's gone.
Speaker 5: It's over. It's over, Oracles living, and it's over. It's over.
Speaker 5: We got top golf, Hey, top golf?
Speaker 3: What you know about top golf?
Speaker 1: A mere Yeah, I'm a human being? Like, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: What do I know about top off? Like you? What
Speaker 1: a human being? Do you know?
Speaker 2: We'll invite every walk of life to a game night
Speaker 2: like Doctor Game Night.
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 4: I'm from the Bowling We used to do the Bowling twenty.
Speaker 4: You got to keep the gold back at.
Speaker 1: It, I will ask at its height? Was there a
Speaker 1: moment when?
Speaker 2: And again my obsession with how people can create and
Speaker 2: do bands together, the same questions I asked Fante with
Speaker 2: Little Brother, is there a moment where it stops being fun?
Speaker 2: Or you know when you when you released your first
Speaker 2: solo record, I was like, uh oh, like because often
Speaker 2: when people release a solo record, I'm hoping that they
Speaker 2: realize that you can go off and do separate projects,
Speaker 2: but you can always come back to home base and
Speaker 2: keep the brand alive, or keep my dream alive.
Speaker 1: I won't say the dream, but.
Speaker 2: You know you well, yeah, because I want to see
Speaker 2: more bands in existence, so in your in a way
Speaker 2: that you can express it without it being awkward. What
Speaker 2: was the decision that led up to breaking up the band?
Speaker 5: We have been working incredibly hard for a long number
Speaker 5: of years and it came to a point where people
Speaker 5: got to go home and live their lives. But I
Speaker 5: had never really got to live my life because I
Speaker 5: was working on the next album, or I was doing this,
Speaker 5: I was doing that, and it's just like I was
Speaker 5: just tired, just tired. And it was like a hard
Speaker 5: decision because like those are my brothers, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like all of our lives experiences miracle at
Speaker 5: the same time, we saw the world together and we
Speaker 5: created beautiful things together. It's really difficult to choose myself,
Speaker 5: I'll be honest. It's difficult to take care of my
Speaker 5: own mental, spiritual, and emotional health. But there's a choice
Speaker 5: I made because I wasn't enjoying creating. Nothing was coming
Speaker 5: to me. I was just kind of tired of the
Speaker 5: whole business. It was like I didn't even like music
Speaker 5: no more, you know what I mean. It's just like
Speaker 5: I think it was just overworked, and it was a
Speaker 5: kind of situation where it's like even if I took
Speaker 5: a break, I don't know if I would have come back,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. It's nobody's fault. It's just conditional.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think that would actually be more of
Speaker 2: a business or more of a burden now that everything's
Speaker 2: going to fall on you. Like I'm certain that as
Speaker 2: a solo artist, yes, you could complete autonomy in terms
Speaker 2: of how you sonically want stuff to sound, or songs
Speaker 2: you want to do, or whatever control that it is
Speaker 2: that you want to musically, how you want it to sound.
Speaker 1: But I would figure that it's even more of a
Speaker 1: burden that way. For you.
Speaker 2: Was it a matter of like song choices, what you
Speaker 2: wanted to do or how you wanted something to sound,
Speaker 2: or arrangements or level of musicians and sip? Like, what
Speaker 2: was it about being a soul artist that made you say, look,
Speaker 2: this is the end of the road and I have
Speaker 2: to do this now.
Speaker 5: I think what you're saying is part of it. It's
Speaker 5: all kind of part of it wanted to hear what
Speaker 5: it sounds like if I create something without anybody editing
Speaker 5: it as part of it, Like what if I can
Speaker 5: just do this on my own. What if I can
Speaker 5: just write music like this on my own. I need
Speaker 5: to write recipe, I need to write parts. I you know,
Speaker 5: it's like it's just a freedom, a creative freedom, and
Speaker 5: I thought life is short. I think it's worth giving
Speaker 5: out a shot, giving that a chance to see what
Speaker 5: I can do with it. That's part of it. And
Speaker 5: as far as like having a burden being a solo artist,
Speaker 5: I just feel like there's not as much of a
Speaker 5: burden as you would think, because at the end of
Speaker 5: the day, when I don't want to do this anymore,
Speaker 5: I'm not like having to affect other people's lives as
Speaker 5: much as I was in the shakes. Like if I
Speaker 5: said I don't want to tour this year, that's affecting
Speaker 5: all of them. And what if I don't want to
Speaker 5: go back out, that's affecting all of them all of
Speaker 5: the time. So you're kind of tied together, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. And when when you're on your own,
Speaker 5: it's like the ship sinks or the ship sales like
Speaker 5: and it's all up to me. So it's a different
Speaker 5: type of fulfillment, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I'd like to know because you are you were an
Speaker 2: intersectional and in a racial band, how hard is it
Speaker 2: to get people to understand culturally where you're coming from
Speaker 2: when you're kind of a kind of alone but still
Speaker 2: in a crowd of people, Like, is it easy to
Speaker 2: explain things? Are they sensitive to these things? Or was
Speaker 2: it always a teachable lesson? And not even with your bandmates,
Speaker 2: but just as you guys are operating as a band.
Speaker 5: I think that's a good question. It's like nothing we
Speaker 5: ever really had to talk about. It was just this
Speaker 5: is me, this is my expression, this is how I
Speaker 5: feel about this. We never had really have we never
Speaker 5: really had to have conversations because by the time, like
Speaker 5: when we were talking about the band, by the time
Speaker 5: the band kind of concluded, we had all grown a
Speaker 5: lot in a lot of different ways, and it kind
Speaker 5: of got to the point where I was just like, well,
Speaker 5: I don't want any of my expressions to affect you
Speaker 5: or vice versa. How I feel about something shouldn't affect you,
Speaker 5: and how you feel about something should you know? It
Speaker 5: started to become a little bit more like how do
Speaker 5: I say, like, uh, some of us were different, that's all. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we just grew into different people difference.
Speaker 2: You worked on sound and color with one of my
Speaker 2: favorite producers, Blake Mills. He describe what that process was
Speaker 2: like working with them.
Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, there were there were some songs. So usually
Speaker 5: when I come to the studio, I have everything already
Speaker 5: demoed out, like how I wanted sound, and it don't
Speaker 5: sound good yet, but it's just the ideas there, and
Speaker 5: I'll have all the parts laid out. And there was
Speaker 5: a few songs I just couldn't seem to get finished.
Speaker 5: You know. Work with Blake was cool because we both
Speaker 5: just put our heads together and tried to figure out
Speaker 5: where we can take this thing. And one of the songs,
Speaker 5: you know, I had, like it's called it a song
Speaker 5: called the Greatest and it was like a slow kind
Speaker 5: of ballad thing. Yeah, and he was like, oh, just
Speaker 5: beat it up, there you go. There was now it's
Speaker 5: like this punk rock thing and it was really cool.
Speaker 5: It was like a it's like a Ramones type thing,
Speaker 5: and I liked that. And then there was like obviously
Speaker 5: getting the sounds and tones where we're working with a
Speaker 5: shine everyy and we were all of us were like
Speaker 5: a part of that process, especially like the mixing and
Speaker 5: finding the different sounds. And then I think for like
Speaker 5: the final song, finishing some of the lyrics to to
Speaker 5: think it was Gemini song, Gemini finishing lyrics to that,
Speaker 5: and and the process was like having Blake work with
Speaker 5: you is like it's nice to have someone like a
Speaker 5: light of fire underneath you and keep you on task,
Speaker 5: because I feel like sometimes as songwriters and musicians, having
Speaker 5: an idea of finishing it is a whole it's a
Speaker 5: whole thing. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Could you talk about what the process was like
Speaker 2: producing your own records, like being in total control of
Speaker 2: it and and kind of using that as you're not
Speaker 2: soapbox or pool pit like that being your confessional kind
Speaker 2: of project. Can you can you explain just the process
Speaker 2: of making the Jamie record.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was actually kind of a supernatural process, to
Speaker 5: be honest with you. I went to to Panga in
Speaker 5: a you know, it's like that mountain outside La and
Speaker 5: it's got like the hip They said there's hippies there.
Speaker 5: I didn't mean any, but I rented this house and
Speaker 5: I had like three songs and I knew that, and
Speaker 5: three I think it was like three weeks a month.
Speaker 5: I had to go into the studio and I had
Speaker 5: to record, and I didn't have anything, and I wasn't
Speaker 5: getting anything, Like I don't I don't smoke weed. I
Speaker 5: like win By some weed. And I sat down and
Speaker 5: I was like, I gotta I gotta connect with the muse.
Speaker 5: I have to get inspired. I don't have anything. So
Speaker 5: I called a psychic and the psychic was like, oh,
Speaker 5: you already got She's like, you already got in bad,
Speaker 5: the record's already done. I was like, what do you mean.
Speaker 5: She's like, you already have the songs, you just got
Speaker 5: to find them. I was like, this doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 5: So now I'm miserable because I don't waste the money
Speaker 5: on the psychic. But I have I have four songs.
Speaker 5: And I go to the studio and I tell Sean,
Speaker 5: I don't know, this is what I got. Let's get
Speaker 5: the band in hair, let's do this, and maybe as
Speaker 5: the days go by out I'll find time to create
Speaker 5: some new ones. I don't know. As we would sit
Speaker 5: down with the band, have lunch, we'd have these conversations
Speaker 5: and then they would just say, like a particular word,
Speaker 5: like one of the words was Jehovah's Witness, and I
Speaker 5: had remembered right when they said it. Oh my god,
Speaker 5: I have a project in logic called Jehovah's Witness. And
Speaker 5: it was cool because I've been named. I name my
Speaker 5: projects like whatever, because I have to have to name
Speaker 5: them before I can save them on my system. So
Speaker 5: I had to get someone all the way back in
Speaker 5: Nashville to send me in higher projects. And that's how
Speaker 5: I got the album together. It would be every day
Speaker 5: going in and someone would just say a phrase and
Speaker 5: I'd be like, that's a song. Now I have the song, baby,
Speaker 5: Now I have the song GoAhead, and all these things
Speaker 5: are getting pulled in and like it just came together
Speaker 5: like that. It was crazy. It's like I did already
Speaker 5: have them. So the psychic was right, like it was
Speaker 5: technically correct.
Speaker 2: What was the inspiration because actually, to be honest, I
Speaker 2: forgot where I was. But I sh zamed something I heard,
Speaker 2: uh uh said the kid singing, and I she zammed
Speaker 2: it and I realized I didn't. I didn't know at
Speaker 2: the time that you actually remixed the Jamie album or
Speaker 2: had a slew of people from Ninth Wonder and Georgia
Speaker 2: and and Bad Not Good and and uh I think, uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah Glover.
Speaker 2: Glover worked on a joint too, right, So I got
Speaker 2: deep into that. What was what was the process of
Speaker 2: doing that? Because it was almost like a whole new album.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the process was like, first things first,
Speaker 5: I just want to reach out to people whose music
Speaker 5: and ideas I really respect. What if y'all wanted to
Speaker 5: remix one of these songs real quick? What would it
Speaker 5: sound like if you did it? And honestly, like everybody
Speaker 5: was super excited to do it. And every time a
Speaker 5: new song would come out and get so excited and
Speaker 5: I'd run out to my car and I just sit
Speaker 5: there and listen to him be blown away. Like Little
Speaker 5: Dragon did some stuff, Fredigan did some stuff, Michael and
Speaker 5: Nuka did some stuff, and just like people I've always
Speaker 5: like kind of wanted to work with, and this is
Speaker 5: kind of an easy way to get to work together.
Speaker 5: The overall is the song and the materials already there,
Speaker 5: just rearrange it like how would you have done it?
Speaker 5: And it was so interesting to listen to it was
Speaker 5: it was so cool, such such a cool project.
Speaker 4: It reminds me of like the Verve Remix projects like
Speaker 4: you just did their own album. Can I just ask
Speaker 4: you talk about a lot of things self care wise
Speaker 4: in this conversation. I'm curious how it's evolved now that
Speaker 4: you are by yourself and you have to figure out
Speaker 4: all of these you know, it's just everything has changed
Speaker 4: in the dynamic. Although you have this whole level, next
Speaker 4: level of freedom, you also have a next level of attention.
Speaker 3: So what does that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, responsibility, Like Fonte said, like, so what does self
Speaker 4: care on a daily look for you?
Speaker 5: Look like for you on the daily? So I do meditation.
Speaker 5: I do transdidal meditation. So I've been doing that for
Speaker 5: I guess a couple of years. Yeah, helps, it helps
Speaker 5: a lot. How much time?
Speaker 3: How much time do you spend on it?
Speaker 5: That's twenty minutes twice to day.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's why I was late to this joint.
Speaker 3: Okay, excused, excuse?
Speaker 5: Well, that creates you know, it's amazing what it does.
Speaker 5: Creates a lot of space in my life. I got
Speaker 5: one of the minds. It runs all day and when
Speaker 5: I lay down, don't want to stop running, you know,
Speaker 5: So that that's really helpful and gives me patience for
Speaker 5: anything that I come up against, me space for people
Speaker 5: who love me and who I want to take care of,
Speaker 5: helping me be a better performer because I'm not overwhelmed,
Speaker 5: not stressed out all the time, because you know, it
Speaker 5: just can be very stressful.
Speaker 1: Do you have anxiety performing?
Speaker 5: No, I don't have anxiety performing. But you know, performing
Speaker 5: to me is really it's the pinnacle of what I do.
Speaker 5: Like I love making records, I also love performing, and
Speaker 5: when I perform, I really I really do try my
Speaker 5: best man and like it's just it's the point where
Speaker 5: I get to be free, Like in my physical form,
Speaker 5: I get to be free. Nobody can touch me, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like this is my space, this
Speaker 5: is my thing. We feel that, Yeah, And I just
Speaker 5: I spend like when I'm on tour now, I just
Speaker 5: spend all of my time making sure I'm ready for
Speaker 5: that thing. You know, that's the most important thing when
Speaker 5: I'm out here.
Speaker 6: I want to ask you work on this new record
Speaker 6: with a good buddy of mine, Nate Smith Nick, what's
Speaker 6: it like collaborating with him? And how'd you guys meet
Speaker 6: and start work?
Speaker 5: So I love Nate, I'm a drummer at heart. I
Speaker 5: love drummers, right, I've been I've been a fan of
Speaker 5: you Quest for a very very long time, in a yeah,
Speaker 5: very long time. And of course, and I had been started.
Speaker 5: I started to see Nate and I started to see
Speaker 5: the way he played, and I thought the way he
Speaker 5: played was so interesting because so emotional. Of course it's
Speaker 5: super technical, but there's also just so much feeling in
Speaker 5: it when he's playing. And I started watching his videos
Speaker 5: and I thought to myself before I made the album, Jamie,
Speaker 5: if I'm going to get any drummer to play on this,
Speaker 5: who would be? And I just because I had just
Speaker 5: found him, and it just kind of broke off into
Speaker 5: watching his videos. I was like, I'm just gonna ask them.
Speaker 5: I's gonna ask Nate. Let's see if you'll do it.
Speaker 5: And he said yes, came to the studio, we made
Speaker 5: that album together, and then I was like, will you
Speaker 5: go on the road with me? And I had to
Speaker 5: a little convincing we know you did that. Well, they
Speaker 5: say yes, And now I get to play with him
Speaker 5: like every night, all the time. He's just the one
Speaker 5: just incredible. It's just incredible, incredible. I feel like the
Speaker 5: luckiest person I get to be on stage with someone
Speaker 5: like a musician like that.
Speaker 9: Does he only play three drums on the road? Think
Speaker 9: he has a kick a stare in a high hat.
Speaker 9: That's like it's ship, It's like the quest Love method.
Speaker 9: It's like all you need?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 9: Does he does he have drums on the road?
Speaker 5: Not? During my show we got him playing. Yeah, he
Speaker 5: got two kick drums, two toms. It's really bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Brittany, can I ask you about the visuals for
Speaker 4: this this album, or at least for the first the single,
Speaker 4: and tell me about Like I'm just curious too, because again,
Speaker 4: you want your soul, you want your solo joints, So
Speaker 4: tell me about what you just how it even came
Speaker 4: to fruition and to the album cover, because what we're
Speaker 4: seeing today is not how you perform as well, it's
Speaker 4: like a whole.
Speaker 5: So for the visuals for the album cover, I really
Speaker 5: I really like movies. I really like Japanese movies and
Speaker 5: koreand movies, and I like kier Kursawa and Cursawa's got
Speaker 5: this movie called Dream and I never hear people really
Speaker 5: talking about it, but it's the most beautiful movie. And
Speaker 5: the things he was trying in that film are incredible, colorful,
Speaker 5: unique storylines. You kind of show up and you're supposed
Speaker 5: to just know what's going on. It's like all this
Speaker 5: like folklore, and at the same time he's weaving in
Speaker 5: his own life story and it's all just very deep
Speaker 5: and metaphorical. I was very inspired by that visual element,
Speaker 5: like the visual elements from that film, and so when
Speaker 5: I went to do my album cover, I wanted it
Speaker 5: to feel kind of like a dream where it's like
Speaker 5: you're sitting in a place that is seemingly like very
Speaker 5: beautiful and very comfortable, but in truth, there's like a
Speaker 5: storm in the background and there's rattlesnakes and the flowers
Speaker 5: and it's twenty degrees outside. Because that was the reality.
Speaker 5: The reality was that's not Ai. I woke up at
Speaker 5: two twenty am to drive us to the mountains Ai Ai. No, No,
Speaker 5: that's Ai. That's real, real, real, And then the video
Speaker 5: and then the video for what Now. Yes, yeah, so
Speaker 5: the song went Now. It kind of reminds me of
Speaker 5: like Michael Jackson. It kind of reminds me of like
Speaker 5: this nostalgia from when I was a kid, like RoboCop.
Speaker 5: I don't know, like like yeah, just like the vascilline
Speaker 5: on the lens effect, Like so that's what I That's
Speaker 5: what I wanted to give it. I wanted to give
Speaker 5: it this kind of like matrix like Ninja like RoboCop,
Speaker 5: like like just aesthetic to it because the.
Speaker 3: Song to me, because you're hardly in it.
Speaker 5: No, I don't like being I don't like being amge
Speaker 5: videos takes to them.
Speaker 1: Smart like that's the Haerowsmith way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's exhaustic.
Speaker 2: I'd be remiss if I didn't ask what was it
Speaker 2: like to record at Sound and Porium For those that
Speaker 2: don't know, Sound and Poorium in Nashville is like a
Speaker 2: legend fucking dairy studio owned by RCA Records, Like all
Speaker 2: the greats have recorded there. I was surprised it's still
Speaker 2: up in operational running. And my big side of that
Speaker 2: question is how did you wind up with Prince's board?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Sounding Poium is great, you know, the first and
Speaker 5: foremost I want to I want a real chamber, like
Speaker 5: wherever I'm recording, they got one of those. I want
Speaker 5: a big room because I want to be able to
Speaker 5: position mics wherever I need to, or if I have
Speaker 5: like a binaural mic and to center room. I want
Speaker 5: to be able to space things out as far as
Speaker 5: I want to. If I want to throw my voice,
Speaker 5: I can be in the corner room. I got plenty
Speaker 5: of space to do this. Got plenty of space to
Speaker 5: do whatever you want. So that's one of the things
Speaker 5: I love about signing Porium. And they already got all
Speaker 5: the gear you need. They got the tape machines. You
Speaker 5: know you're not calling in and bringing this stuff. They
Speaker 5: got a lot of the They have a great board.
Speaker 5: I think they just got like a They used to
Speaker 5: have a need board, which I really really really like,
Speaker 5: but now they got this API board. Is it's nice too.
Speaker 5: It's good. I like it so Soundportum shot them out.
Speaker 5: I'll keep going there as long as they'll have me.
Speaker 5: I love it there. It's like home away from home
Speaker 5: at this point. Nice Now when it comes to the
Speaker 5: Princess console, Yeah, it didn't belong to Prince himself. This
Speaker 5: has been getting all over the world. It's like a
Speaker 5: game of telephone Chris Moon so Prince, you know, he
Speaker 5: recorded his first album twice. Yeah, it was like in
Speaker 5: the Bay Area. This board had been in Minneapolis, but
Speaker 5: the MCI board, but the fella who hadn't wanted to
Speaker 5: take it to the Bay Area with him, so he
Speaker 5: took it from Minneapolis to like, I don't know, somewhere
Speaker 5: around San Francisco. That album got recorded. The first time
Speaker 5: Prince did it, he said didn't like it. You know,
Speaker 5: we all know that story because the other musicians were playing.
Speaker 5: So then he scrapped that and where he went and
Speaker 5: recorded the actual album was a different board. So that's
Speaker 5: that's just the providence of it. And the fella who
Speaker 5: had took it to there then took it to Nashville,
Speaker 5: and that's how it got in Nashville. And that's how
Speaker 5: I got a hold of it. Of Course when I
Speaker 5: paid for it, I didn't buy it because it was
Speaker 5: Prince's board. I just I just saw this like MCI
Speaker 5: board with the MCI tape machine that comes together in
Speaker 5: a moment, and I was like, yeah, I want that.
Speaker 1: There's I forget the studio it was.
Speaker 2: But when Jill Scott first moved to Nashville, Uh, we
Speaker 2: shot the video for whatever the first single was of
Speaker 2: her album in the studio and coincidentally, the API board
Speaker 2: that recorded the Purple Raine record and subsequently around the
Speaker 2: World in the Day Wow is also in Nashville, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, why is Nashville becoming the.
Speaker 1: Landing spot for all of princess gear?
Speaker 5: So it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Have you ever recorded Jack White studio or went there
Speaker 1: or man?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Oh Third Man? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think yeah,
Speaker 5: I think the shiks that did some like singles over
Speaker 5: there at Third Man, Okay, yeah. I also been to
Speaker 5: his place he has he has a studio at his
Speaker 5: place too one a long time ago, and did a
Speaker 5: couple a couple of singles with him. Yeah.
Speaker 9: Pretty how much stuff like these days?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 9: Are you doing that digital based versus analog based? It
Speaker 9: seems like you're just talking about about chambers and binormal
Speaker 9: mic seems very analogy to me, but like some of
Speaker 9: the sounds seem very digital. I don't know, Like where
Speaker 9: what do you do? Are you consciously like making decisions
Speaker 9: based on my kind of thing is just kind of
Speaker 9: all just all a bunch of paint and you're just
Speaker 9: painting with.
Speaker 1: All of it.
Speaker 5: So I so when I start off doing my demos,
Speaker 5: it's usually digital because it's handy. I can pull from
Speaker 5: lots of different ideas really quickly. So I'll start there,
Speaker 5: But I know, ultimately I want to do something analog,
Speaker 5: uh to me, and you know everybody has an opinion
Speaker 5: about this, but to me, the analog is just more
Speaker 5: fun because you can accidentally do shit with analog. That
Speaker 5: is just because there's a wiring problem or this one
Speaker 5: sounds different than that one. Why is that. It's just
Speaker 5: like there's something to it. There's something in the wiring,
Speaker 5: in the circuitry, in the tubes, and then putting everything
Speaker 5: down the tape just kind of like a nice way
Speaker 5: of smushing everything together. Just it's just like so like
Speaker 5: it's such a it's such a small detail, but I
Speaker 5: really do think I can feel and hear the difference,
Speaker 5: and personally, when I'm making music is more fun. It's
Speaker 5: just more fun.
Speaker 2: All right, Before we wrap up, I don't want to
Speaker 2: be intrusive, but you did bring it up.
Speaker 1: Can you share with me what your mantra word is
Speaker 1: in your team?
Speaker 5: I can't, you know, I can't. I'm not gonna that word.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So when you when you do TM,
Speaker 2: like like meditation, okay, yeah, transit, yes, So all right.
Speaker 2: When I first got introduced to meditation, of course, was
Speaker 2: in the pandemic and I felt the world's fucking coming
Speaker 2: to an end. So I became like a meditation obsessive.
Speaker 2: I was going about it all wrong, like I was doing.
Speaker 2: I would do like two hours to two and a
Speaker 2: half hours in the morning before I get out of
Speaker 2: bed of anything, DMT meditate like every type of breath
Speaker 2: of fire, all that stuff, and then I do an
Speaker 2: additional two hours before I go to bed. And a
Speaker 2: friend was like, wait, you meditate four hours a day?
Speaker 9: Yeah, how do you have that time?
Speaker 1: I was the world's time. Yeah.
Speaker 2: All I had was DJing for five hours and work
Speaker 2: a bid on Summer Soul.
Speaker 1: But I was doing nothing, and I was just like,
Speaker 1: I need to keep my sanity. I need to keep
Speaker 1: my sanity. And they were basically like.
Speaker 2: All right, that's cute, but you're doing it wrong and
Speaker 2: you really and so he gave me a clip. Weird enough,
Speaker 2: Jerry Seinfeld has a clip on YouTube of all people
Speaker 2: in the world, and he's like, the key to my
Speaker 2: success is tim trans meditation. And you know, I met
Speaker 2: him maybe seven months later and I asked him about it.
Speaker 2: I was like, so, what did you mean the key
Speaker 2: to your success? Yes, and he's like, well, we will
Speaker 2: break for lunch on Seinfeld and instead of me going
Speaker 2: to lunch them forty five minutes, I'll go to my
Speaker 2: trailer and I'll do tam for like maybe ten to
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes always, and then I'll go about my day.
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, I don't get it ten
Speaker 2: minutes I do four hours and he started laughing, like
Speaker 2: you're doing it wrong. And so basically, there's a gentleman
Speaker 2: named Bob Roth who I got put onto.
Speaker 1: And what it is.
Speaker 2: Is that you're assigned a word and you're supposed to
Speaker 2: keep that word unique to yourself. I've talked to some
Speaker 2: people and you know we trade off words whatever, but yes,
Speaker 2: you're supposed to keep it to yourself, and you're basically
Speaker 2: supposed to sit. So I sit in this office and
Speaker 2: I sit in the dark, and pretty much you say,
Speaker 2: you're your mantra or your chant.
Speaker 1: If you remember what's love got.
Speaker 3: To do with it, I'm young holder and get killed right.
Speaker 1: Exactly, or if you're a fan of what's happening now.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, all right, I'm talking about what's happening. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, even you know that's words. But some people
Speaker 2: just sit and hum. Sometimes I get lazy and don't
Speaker 2: do the chant and I'll just sit hmm. And what
Speaker 2: it does is just basically, if you live a life
Speaker 2: in which you gotta make panic decisions with seconds left
Speaker 2: on the clock, Like I live in a constant state
Speaker 2: of panic where it's you know, I this guy deadline
Speaker 2: and that deadline and where's your notes from da da
Speaker 2: da da da, and you're ten minutes later here and
Speaker 2: that sort of thing. So sometimes you just gotta sit
Speaker 2: for ten minutes in silence. It's it's what keeps your
Speaker 2: sanity because if you don't do that, you're going to drink.
Speaker 1: I need a drink.
Speaker 2: I need something, you know, So I'd rather when I
Speaker 2: get to the place. And you know, even though we
Speaker 2: were talking before we started recording, I have probably one
Speaker 2: of the most stressful nights of my life last night,
Speaker 2: so I had to do therapy and TM like like old.
Speaker 1: School of mirror like an hour. So it's it's the
Speaker 1: thing that keeps you.
Speaker 2: From making rash decisions that will affect the rest of
Speaker 2: your life or unfortunately for some people in their life.
Speaker 2: So with that said, I actually want to, you know,
Speaker 2: thank you, especially the way that the album is crafted
Speaker 2: with the interludes and and you know, in the same
Speaker 2: vein of is what Andre is doing with his project. Like,
Speaker 2: I love the fact that post pandemic times, we're getting
Speaker 2: new versions of black artistry because oftentimes, like we're very
Speaker 2: close to the chest when it comes to being vulnerable
Speaker 2: and letting our feelings out there and and sharing with people.
Speaker 2: So yeah, congratulations on too, man, it's really inspiration.
Speaker 1: On Thank you for doing the show with us. Ritt,
Speaker 1: Thanks so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, congratulations on freedom.
Speaker 5: Appreciate that. Thank thank you.
Speaker 4: We can we can see it and hear it. On
Speaker 4: you your freedom. It's awesome. I'm taking some of it,
Speaker 4: thank you, and.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that because I know, like this process of
Speaker 2: people just probing into your life and all those things
Speaker 2: is the part of the music, viz. That is the
Speaker 2: most uncomfortable where we just want to sing and whatnot.
Speaker 1: But thank you.
Speaker 2: It's it's good to give somebody their flowers. That's just
Speaker 2: as uncomfortable as I am with taking it.
Speaker 4: So and listen, and happy Women's History Month, because you're
Speaker 4: always making history of my book.
Speaker 3: This voice is historic.
Speaker 5: And hey, thank you so much, thank you so much.
Speaker 5: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So when we havealf of Fan Tigolo,
Speaker 2: Laya and Sugar Steve and brand new Bill. That's right,
Speaker 2: I got to give you a new day. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: all right. We got oh for Bill, brand new Bill
Speaker 2: and uh superior superioris Steve.
Speaker 3: I love it Bill, Bill and Brittany done it. They
Speaker 3: yalked on the street together.
Speaker 9: Brittany on the street.
Speaker 3: I don't think you ain't been on the street.
Speaker 1: Damn. We got Brittany on the street.
Speaker 3: It's perfect for the street.
Speaker 9: Yeah, she's just perfect in general.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, I'll take that today. Hey, thank you,
Speaker 5: thank you.
Speaker 8: All right.
Speaker 2: So until the next time, ladies and gentlemen, this was
Speaker 2: Quest Love Supreme. We'll see you on the next gogram.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for listening to Quest Love Supreme.
Speaker 2: Hosted by a Mayor, Quest Love Thompson, Why You, Saint Claire,
Speaker 2: Fan Coleman, Sugar, Steve Mandel.
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