Speaker 1: Someone told me that I need to chill out on
Speaker 1: the God content, and I was supposed too much God content,
Speaker 1: and that really did bother me.
Speaker 2: I remember puking, thinking I just turned down something. I
Speaker 2: feel like I let down everybody in the industry.
Speaker 3: Y'all need to rescue me from having to do my
Speaker 3: mother's hair in her saying al twenty four to seven,
Speaker 3: the fourteen year old is hungry, and she slammed the
Speaker 3: door in the eight year old's face. And when we
Speaker 3: get over here, I'm gonna not be gentle parenting. Welcome, Welcome,
Speaker 3: Welcome to another episode of the Woman Evolved Podcast. I
Speaker 3: am your host, Sarah Jax Roberts, and how are you doing.
Speaker 3: First of all, I want to welcome you to March. Okay,
Speaker 3: it is Women's History Month, and women who have made
Speaker 3: history are my kind of gals. And what I love
Speaker 3: the most about Women's History Month is that we learn
Speaker 3: a lot about unsung heroes, but we also have a
Speaker 3: moment to reflect on the women who have made history
Speaker 3: in our lives. You know, it's so funny. I actually
Speaker 3: posted a video on TikTok of me sitting down. Well,
Speaker 3: actually I wasn't sitting down. My mother was sitting down
Speaker 3: and I was doing her hair, and I was treating
Speaker 3: her the way she treated me when I used to
Speaker 3: get my hair done. I don't even know. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: see if we can play the clip from the video.
Speaker 3: I hope this sounds not terrible.
Speaker 4: Now, did I ask you to be still?
Speaker 3: I asked you whole you sat down, if you was
Speaker 3: comfortable doing all that moving. Come on now, I'm just
Speaker 3: leave it how it is. Turn around so you can
Speaker 3: be comfortable. Now, is it supposed to look? Keep your
Speaker 3: head still? Be still about that moving? Okay?
Speaker 4: Then I ask you if you're I'm at the saline.
Speaker 4: I don't have to.
Speaker 3: Tell you, all right, I'm gonna leave it like this,
Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna leave it like this.
Speaker 4: This is how you used to do.
Speaker 3: This is how old.
Speaker 4: My head. That's how you used to put the song.
Speaker 4: Why are you because there's one thing about them fable?
Speaker 3: No, it don't hurt oh.
Speaker 4: Okay, you are? You was actually hurting me though. This
Speaker 4: don't hurt you? Okay, wonder why I'm so thick headed? Now?
Speaker 4: You don't put on my hair.
Speaker 3: I have probably watched that video about eighteen thousand times.
Speaker 3: Don't ask me why, But I think it has something
Speaker 3: to do with me reliving my childhood. But with the
Speaker 3: roles being reversed, what does this have to do with
Speaker 3: women's history of mine? There is something powerful about us
Speaker 3: living out what we have seen demonstrated for us, and
Speaker 3: when we have representation, it's powerful. And when we don't,
Speaker 3: we have to feel our way around, or you know,
Speaker 3: search our way around to find someone who was doing
Speaker 3: something historical for us. I bet that if you look
Speaker 3: throughout all of your life and you think about the
Speaker 3: women who you have encountered, the women who stand out
Speaker 3: in your mind didn't just stand out in your mind
Speaker 3: because of them being normal. They stood out in your
Speaker 3: mind because they did something that left an impact on
Speaker 3: your life. That impact made you into the person you
Speaker 3: are today. Whether it was a teacher, a parent, a friend,
Speaker 3: an aunt, a cousin, some lady from church, your grandmother,
Speaker 3: they are a part of the fabric of who you are.
Speaker 3: And so for Women's History Months, I am celebrating all
Speaker 3: of the women who go the extra mile to say,
Speaker 3: you know what, I am going to show up in
Speaker 3: the fullness of who I am, and any chance that
Speaker 3: I have to impact another person, I will We're going
Speaker 3: to spend this episode talking about what it means to
Speaker 3: be a woman in power, what it means to be
Speaker 3: a woman who is making history. I believe that this
Speaker 3: is going to be encouraging for you no matter where
Speaker 3: you are on your journey. When we start talking about
Speaker 3: women who have been historical and who've had great impact
Speaker 3: and influence and talking about power, it can honestly be
Speaker 3: pretty intimidating. Why because we often see our area for growth,
Speaker 3: we often compare ourselves, or we're so busy trying to
Speaker 3: live up to other people's expectations that we mess out
Speaker 3: on an opportunity to really understand what does power look
Speaker 3: like for me? What do I want to do with
Speaker 3: the time that gifts and talents that God has given me?
Speaker 3: And how do I really ladies at the feet of
Speaker 3: Jesus in such a way that he tells me what
Speaker 3: to do with this hand that I've been dealt? Isn't
Speaker 3: that what we're all trying to figure out is like,
Speaker 3: what do I do with this hand that has been dealt?
Speaker 3: And sometimes the best way to do that is to
Speaker 3: shuffle the deck. I've got to mind your business question,
Speaker 3: And that's exactly what she has done. She is shuffling
Speaker 3: the deck and she's got a different set of cards,
Speaker 3: and the only reason why she was able to do
Speaker 3: this is because she created some boundaries. Let's listen into
Speaker 3: her question.
Speaker 5: Hi, my name mister me some I'm a recovering people pleaser.
Speaker 5: My question is what kind of advice would you give
Speaker 5: for someone that's recovering from people pleasing, like growing up
Speaker 5: just really having a hard time with saying no to
Speaker 5: people and then standing your ground or my thing is
Speaker 5: I always get attacked with the after effect, like feeling
Speaker 5: bad for saying no, or you know, feeling bad for
Speaker 5: whatever the label they put me on, like I'm selfish
Speaker 5: or whatever.
Speaker 3: For saying no?
Speaker 5: Like how could I push past that and move on?
Speaker 3: Who cannot relate to the guilt of being a people pleaser.
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty one, we had the Woman Evolved conference.
Speaker 3: We had Nedric Lover to wop there and she took
Speaker 3: a cure from the audience and someone asked her a
Speaker 3: very similar question like, Okay, I'm a recovering people pleaser.
Speaker 3: I'm starting to set boundaries and now I am wondering
Speaker 3: what do I do with the guilt that I feel afterwards?
Speaker 3: And then the consequences of creating boundaries, and the person
Speaker 3: basically said, how do I not feel guilty and needric
Speaker 3: lover to why she's got one of those names where
Speaker 3: you got to say the whole name. I hope that
Speaker 3: my name is like that, Like I hope that you
Speaker 3: have to say Sara Jax Roberts, like say the whole thing.
Speaker 3: But anyways, she basically said that guilt is an emotion
Speaker 3: and it will pass. It is unrealistic, and I think
Speaker 3: we do ourselves a huge disservice when we think to ourselves,
Speaker 3: I want to set boundaries. I don't want to be
Speaker 3: a people pleaser. I still want people to be happy
Speaker 3: with the boundaries that I said, and to applaud when
Speaker 3: I make these changes, because that means that they'll still
Speaker 3: be pleased with me making the decision that ultimately made
Speaker 3: me not want to be a people pleaser in the
Speaker 3: first place. It makes sense in my head. It's girl math,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, I think it is unrealistic to expect the
Speaker 3: very people who benefit from our people pleasing tendencies to
Speaker 3: also be the people who applaud us when we make boundaries.
Speaker 3: Only a few people have the maturity to be able
Speaker 3: to say, Hey, thank you so much for creating a
Speaker 3: boundary that preserved yourself. I'm so proud of you for
Speaker 3: doing that, and I will adjust accordingly. I will say, though,
Speaker 3: my friend Courtney and I kind of have that going,
Speaker 3: but it's because we both have spent so much time
Speaker 3: in therapy that we can see when the other person
Speaker 3: is set a boundary, and as much as it may
Speaker 3: mean that you know we're not getting something that we
Speaker 3: wanted or needed from the other person, we're like, I'm
Speaker 3: so proud of you for setting boundaries. Look at you
Speaker 3: out here. Not people pleasing. I struggle with the concept
Speaker 3: of people pleasing, though. I think it is because when
Speaker 3: I was a teenager, I felt like I had disappointed
Speaker 3: so many people. When I got pregnant, but I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to live to please use anyone anymore
Speaker 3: because I've already disappointed so many people. But I do
Speaker 3: believe that I internalize a people pleasing mentality in me
Speaker 3: wanting to perform well to reclaim a sense of acceptance,
Speaker 3: and then also feeling like I had no more space
Speaker 3: to make any more mistakes, and so I felt like
Speaker 3: I needed to please anyone who I encounter, to make
Speaker 3: sure they wouldn't leave me, wouldn't reject me, wouldn't abandon me.
Speaker 3: And as a result, I suffered a lot until I
Speaker 3: got to a place where I was like, listen, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to be able to please anyone, and I
Speaker 3: need to make some tough decisions that are going to
Speaker 3: shake up my life again. And in the process of
Speaker 3: doing that, what I learned is I can withstand the
Speaker 3: shaking that comes with me rebuilding my life. Maybe that's
Speaker 3: something that someone needs to hear. Who's listening to this
Speaker 3: right now. I told you before this started that there
Speaker 3: was a woman who sent in a question who was
Speaker 3: trying to figure out what to do with the hand
Speaker 3: that she's been dealt because she has reshuffled the deck.
Speaker 3: When you reach the deck, only you get to choose
Speaker 3: whether or not you're going to shake things up in
Speaker 3: your life, and you need to know that you can
Speaker 3: handle the shaking that comes with reshuffling the deck. But
Speaker 3: it is your choice, and a lot of us don't
Speaker 3: make that choice because we do not want to deal
Speaker 3: with the shaking, deal with the rejection, deal with the
Speaker 3: guilt trips. We tell ourselves that it would be so
Speaker 3: much easier if I just continue to do what makes
Speaker 3: everyone else happy, even if it means that I suffer.
Speaker 3: There's I don't know how large of the population has
Speaker 3: this philosophy, because there are some people who are like, listen,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look out for myself. I'm gonna take care
Speaker 3: of myself because if I don't know, one else will.
Speaker 3: And to you, I say, where's your podcast? Because we
Speaker 3: want to listen to it. The rest of us are
Speaker 3: out here on this awkward journey of choosing to take
Speaker 3: up space and doing it in a way that honors
Speaker 3: our truth and hopefully preserves the relationships that we value.
Speaker 3: Part of the reason why people pleasing is honestly so
Speaker 3: addicting is because we do get a sense of belonging.
Speaker 3: We have a sense of identity. We need that sense
Speaker 3: of belonging and that sense of identity and that approval.
Speaker 3: And it feels good when you've been rejected. It feels
Speaker 3: good when you're afraid to fail to say that they're
Speaker 3: for someone to be on the other end, saying you're
Speaker 3: doing a good job at this, even if it means
Speaker 3: you're betraying yourself, and so to choose to no longer
Speaker 3: people please is to choose to be faithful to yourself. Obviously,
Speaker 3: we're going to be talking about power all this month,
Speaker 3: and I cannot tell you how excited I am about
Speaker 3: my book, Power Moves. Ignite your confidence and become a force.
Speaker 3: This book is so important to me because I started
Speaker 3: realizing a few years ago that we are inundated with
Speaker 3: the concept of pursuing power, and so many people who
Speaker 3: we admire who have great influence, we say, hey, those
Speaker 3: people are powerful. We're looking at their outward works saying
Speaker 3: that they're powerful, not recognizing that Before you can make
Speaker 3: a power move that people can see, you have to
Speaker 3: allow power to move inside of you. And in order
Speaker 3: for power to move inside of you, you have to
Speaker 3: be willing to examine where am I experiencing a power
Speaker 3: laws and a lot of us lose our power in
Speaker 3: people pleasing. Many of us lose our power in expectations
Speaker 3: of our community, our culture. Where have you lost your power?
Speaker 3: Was it shame? Was it an experience you had? If
Speaker 3: you can begin to identify where you lost your power,
Speaker 3: then we can reclaim that power from that scenario. So
Speaker 3: Power Moves It's all about recognizing that hey, what happened
Speaker 3: to you had power. We do not do ourselves any
Speaker 3: favors by pretending that the divorce didn't have power, that
Speaker 3: the betrayal didn't have power. Like you can be out
Speaker 3: here gasing yourself like it don't matter, it don't matter,
Speaker 3: it don't matter. But if you changed what you believe,
Speaker 3: you changed what you thought is possible, you changed how
Speaker 3: you see yourself, that thing had power. I oh, gosh,
Speaker 3: I wish I had my Bible on me. I'm recording
Speaker 3: this in my car. There's it's a long story. We're
Speaker 3: at a rental house and it's all the kids are here,
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of noise in the house. So
Speaker 3: I got in a car with this microphone. If I
Speaker 3: had my Bible, I have my But there's the service
Speaker 3: is terrible. Okay, So I will tell you though. There's
Speaker 3: a scripture. Y'all look at it. Read your whole Bible.
Speaker 3: You'll find it. But there is a scripture that talks
Speaker 3: about when Jesus gave the disciples authority and power and
Speaker 3: he you know, you've probably seen that on a tread
Speaker 3: over serpents to heal the sick, cleanse the lepers. He
Speaker 3: lists all of these things, and then he goes to
Speaker 3: have and over all of the power of the enemy.
Speaker 3: If you grew up in church, maybe that's not unfamiliar
Speaker 3: for you. But what's so intriguing to me is power.
Speaker 3: That word power is a Greek word that means dounamus,
Speaker 3: and we see it and acts when he gives the
Speaker 3: disciples power, and that same dunamus is the power that
Speaker 3: is used when he talks about the power of the enemy.
Speaker 3: When you try to act like the enemy didn't have
Speaker 3: any power, like unless you put Jesus power on top
Speaker 3: of it, unless you've healed, unless you've been restored, unless
Speaker 3: you've been redeemed, like that thing took a bite out
Speaker 3: your tail, You know what I mean. Like, sorry to
Speaker 3: break it to you, but it's okay to admit that, Like, hey,
Speaker 3: I need the power of Jesus over this area of
Speaker 3: my life so that I can be healed, so that
Speaker 3: I can be restored. Because if I don't have that,
Speaker 3: then that means the power of the enemy is going
Speaker 3: to run rampant in my life and my decision making
Speaker 3: and my purpose and my destiny and my relationships, and
Speaker 3: so power moves. It's all about reclaiming the power that
Speaker 3: has been stripped away from us and using the power
Speaker 3: of God to really trump that power. So power moves,
Speaker 3: you get to tell that thing you don't have power anymore.
Speaker 3: Pack up your bags, we out of here. It's an eviction.
Speaker 3: Notice around here, you no longer have power. And then
Speaker 3: I walk you through. Literally, once power moves in you,
Speaker 3: then power can move through you. And when power moves
Speaker 3: through you, it that's when you're shuffling the deck. Because
Speaker 3: when you're saying, I'm going to show up differently, and
Speaker 3: because I'm going to show up differently, it's going to
Speaker 3: change my relationships. And I'm not like a burn every
Speaker 3: bridge kind of girl, although some of them bridges do
Speaker 3: need a gasoline can and a lighter, and yeah, a
Speaker 3: lighter to them. I also recognize the listen. I'm married,
Speaker 3: I got six kids, I have four siblings, I have
Speaker 3: two parents, I have an incredible mother in law. I
Speaker 3: have a lot of relationships. And if I'm no longer
Speaker 3: going to be a people pleaser, these people are going
Speaker 3: to be impacted by me changing who I am. And
Speaker 3: I still I rock with them, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like I do rock with them, And so how do
Speaker 3: you introduce your power into these new relationships? I walk
Speaker 3: you through that, and then we talk about becoming a force.
Speaker 3: I know you all didn't ask for a summer of
Speaker 3: the book, but the point is this. I believe that
Speaker 3: women have a greater tendency to people please because we
Speaker 3: have been awarded, we have been celebrated for people pleasing
Speaker 3: when we live up to the body stereotypes, when we
Speaker 3: live up to you know, probably in the fifties it
Speaker 3: was like being a fifties housewife, being barefoot and pregnant,
Speaker 3: in the seventies, maybe being a free sex spirit. Like
Speaker 3: when we live up to these different tropes men, we
Speaker 3: are considered someone who can embody power. Some of the
Speaker 3: celebrities who we see as powerful today are you know,
Speaker 3: it's questionable are they powerful? Are they not? Like can
Speaker 3: they sleep at night? Are they having relationship issues? Like,
Speaker 3: just because you're powerful doesn't mean that your soul has
Speaker 3: power in it. And so if we're going to be
Speaker 3: powerful in the earth, if we are going to be
Speaker 3: women who are historical in the impact that we leave
Speaker 3: on others, we have to be willing to let power
Speaker 3: move in us evolve. Now, I ask two of my
Speaker 3: friends I believe work with some of the most incredible
Speaker 3: people on the planet to join me on this podcast
Speaker 3: because they take pictures of women and in those pictures
Speaker 3: myself included. You know, we look powerful. Look maybe we
Speaker 3: look like we fit the bill, and yet they know,
Speaker 3: because they're behind the scenes, you know, what does power
Speaker 3: really look like? What doesn't it look like? And so
Speaker 3: I wanted to talk a little bit about the illusion,
Speaker 3: the image of power versus having the real deal power,
Speaker 3: And so I invited them to have a conversation with
Speaker 3: me about what it means to be powerful, how it
Speaker 3: shows up in our world. And then they let me
Speaker 3: mind their business a little bit as well. So I
Speaker 3: can't wait to share this impactful conversation with you. I
Speaker 3: hope you love it as much as I do. By
Speaker 3: the way, I was supposed to record this podcast, well
Speaker 3: this interview with them, my husband had an unexpected trip.
Speaker 3: He was to join me for this podcast. He had
Speaker 3: an unexpected trip, and so I tagged them in last minute.
Speaker 3: The only problem is they only had evening slots available.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm somebody's mama. Evening time is bedtime. You
Speaker 3: will not believe the struggle I had trying to make
Speaker 3: this conversation flow seamlessly. Ella was definitely ready for bed.
Speaker 3: She'd had a long day at her play rehearsal. Mackenzie
Speaker 3: was hungry. So there's literally, like so much stuff happening
Speaker 3: in this podcast, but we edited down so that you
Speaker 3: didn't hear the fifteen minutes of me trying a gentle
Speaker 3: hard parent. So if you notice that it feels a
Speaker 3: little like about halfway through, it is, and just pray
Speaker 3: for your strong friend. Okay, guys, I have a question
Speaker 3: for you. Who is the most powerful woman you know
Speaker 3: who doesn't realize how powerful she actually is.
Speaker 6: I think my wife.
Speaker 2: I think my wife is very, very powerful, and I
Speaker 2: don't think that she knows how powerful that she is.
Speaker 6: I think that what I'm able.
Speaker 2: To put and push and help other women with across
Speaker 2: the world is because of what she pours into me
Speaker 2: at home, and so it allows me to really, you know,
Speaker 2: go out across the world and help other women out.
Speaker 2: And I don't think she knows it at home, because
Speaker 2: she's so meek with it, Like she's so kind and
Speaker 2: so meek with it at home that I just don't
Speaker 2: think that she knows it.
Speaker 6: But hopefully she hears.
Speaker 3: This to do, Queen Queen Nicole, it's so funny. Oh,
Speaker 3: go ahead, live your life.
Speaker 1: No, I said, I would say my mom too. Honestly,
Speaker 1: she really is that girl, and I don't think she
Speaker 1: realizes it. Tell us about her my mom, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: she's just that girl. She's great. I mean, what do
Speaker 1: you want to know? Like, well she like her job
Speaker 1: is well?
Speaker 3: No, like what like you've seen her? Like what makes
Speaker 3: her that girl in your eyes?
Speaker 1: Because she really be changing lives? Like I think seeing
Speaker 1: her from like as a kid to now and how
Speaker 1: she really went and got it for us, like to
Speaker 1: change our world because we grew up very much, you
Speaker 1: know Section eight food stamps, and she didn't want that
Speaker 1: for us no more. So, like she went and you know,
Speaker 1: got a degree after degree. Now she got her on
Speaker 1: nonprofit bro her nonprofit like millions of dollars. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, she's that girl, and I don't
Speaker 1: think she realized that she's that girl.
Speaker 3: I have an interesting question because you all both deal
Speaker 3: a lot with women and their images, and so I
Speaker 3: am curious to know what does it look like when
Speaker 3: a woman knows that she's powered.
Speaker 2: It can be very dangerous sometimes it can be dangerous
Speaker 2: sometimes because I think you can. I think with all things,
Speaker 2: you can either utilize it in its best way or
Speaker 2: you can abuse it. And I think that what I
Speaker 2: have noticed over the years, I think when I first
Speaker 2: got started in the fashion world and started working with ladies,
Speaker 2: what I would see is that what I was giving
Speaker 2: them was vanity, Like I was pouring vanity into women,
Speaker 2: and so it would make them feel so powerful, and
Speaker 2: then you would these ladies would turn into like fashion beasts,
Speaker 2: and not like beast the mold, not like when we
Speaker 2: talk about now, but I mean, like they would become
Speaker 2: mean girls. And it was at one point where I realized,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I think that I'm turning girls into mean
Speaker 2: girls because I'm giving them straight vanity.
Speaker 6: Like it's it has nothing, it's has no substance.
Speaker 2: Behind what I'm doing, and it's just, you know, it's
Speaker 2: just it's it's vain, Like we can't get around the
Speaker 2: word vain. And I think that it can be abused
Speaker 2: at times, but I've also seen women that have utilized
Speaker 2: their power, you know, and.
Speaker 6: Most of the times, like you just said earlier, I
Speaker 6: don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of women even I don't
Speaker 2: know a woman that knows her power and speaks of
Speaker 2: her power. I don't think I've ever heard one say
Speaker 2: that she has power. I think that a woman who
Speaker 2: has power never really.
Speaker 6: Speaks of it. She just knows.
Speaker 2: She just loves what she does and it's just a
Speaker 2: part of who she is, and she knows that she's
Speaker 2: called to something bigger than her. I think that's the
Speaker 2: true definition of power to me, not necessarily knowing that
Speaker 2: you have power.
Speaker 3: I'm taking notes because I want to ask questions and
Speaker 3: now forget. But like, I am curious about this because
Speaker 3: I think that most women want to feel confident, they
Speaker 3: want to feel powerful. But I think part of the
Speaker 3: reason that I don't even lean into this notion of
Speaker 3: like being that girl is because I feel like the
Speaker 3: moment you start drinking your own kool aid, like you
Speaker 3: lose sight on what really matters. And so, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, like because then you're like you see
Speaker 3: who you are instead of like who you can become,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I think there's something to
Speaker 3: be said about there always being a little bit of
Speaker 3: distance between like where you are and who you could become.
Speaker 3: So I honestly I think It's the reason why I
Speaker 3: wrote the book power Moves, Ignite your confidence and become
Speaker 3: a force. Like as powerful as that title is, it
Speaker 3: really is about like harnessing power in a way that
Speaker 3: doesn't alienate your people or like build up pride, because
Speaker 3: I think there is this like fine balance.
Speaker 2: There is a fine balance. I think you and I
Speaker 2: can think of the young lady's name of was on
Speaker 2: your podcast, were talking about how when you get to
Speaker 2: a certain place of therapy, you weaponize it.
Speaker 6: And I think that certain women that end up.
Speaker 2: Knowing that they're that girl, are they getting these powerful positions?
Speaker 2: Are they just start to they start tapping in on
Speaker 2: what they're capable of, and they can sometimes weaponize it.
Speaker 6: And I think that the.
Speaker 2: Humility, like Cindy was right, like you are, like you
Speaker 2: are that girl to us, but you're that girl to
Speaker 2: us because we've as long as I've ever known you,
Speaker 2: I've never heard you or seen you try to pull
Speaker 2: a power move, you know what I mean, Like I've
Speaker 2: never seen you try to pull a power move, like
Speaker 2: even behind the scenes, even with coming from childhood or
Speaker 2: coming from where you come from, like I always I've
Speaker 2: always seen you in such a humble state like I
Speaker 2: feel like you embody this uh this internal power because
Speaker 2: you tap into who you know God has called you
Speaker 2: to be, like you ain't trying to be nobody else,
Speaker 2: Like I think Cindy always Cidy always says that she's
Speaker 2: never sees you in business mode, and she she's all
Speaker 2: she's often wondering what you're like in business mode. I'm like,
Speaker 2: she's the same, She's the same person that she is
Speaker 2: wh she's talking to, talking to you as a friend
Speaker 2: or talking to you anytime.
Speaker 6: And I feel like.
Speaker 1: He said he'd be like he like.
Speaker 7: Or whatever, You're not gonna You're not gonna You're not
Speaker 7: gonna come in a.
Speaker 2: Show and just take take take like you have to
Speaker 2: be able to give something and and receive something. You
Speaker 2: gotta be able to take criticism. You gotta be able
Speaker 2: to give her realness like there's a gift. Like I
Speaker 2: feel like you're an all around and all around girl.
Speaker 2: That's my take on it. So I do think that
Speaker 2: you're the eg girl. But I think you're it girl
Speaker 2: because we get a chance to see you in your
Speaker 2: own world and you look, you clean, your workout, you
Speaker 2: you know, you cry.
Speaker 1: I've never seen her cry I've never seen you cry.
Speaker 1: I mean on stay, I mean on church.
Speaker 2: She.
Speaker 6: Cries. She cries.
Speaker 3: Well, as much as I have enjoyed us talking about me, Cindy,
Speaker 3: I would love to know, like, what has your confidence
Speaker 3: journey been?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 6: What? Yeah? We want to know?
Speaker 4: What is?
Speaker 6: What has it been like for you though? Because you
Speaker 6: have we have watched you grow.
Speaker 2: Okay, not even just over the years, but over the months,
Speaker 2: we've seen you grow. Yeah, I mean since like honestly,
Speaker 2: like a few weeks ago, things things happening like you
Speaker 2: literally you challenge yourself to grow like that's that takes
Speaker 2: confidence to do that.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmm.
Speaker 3: What made you change?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was tired of being the same.
Speaker 3: I don't know how I was gonna say. How would
Speaker 3: you define who you were before?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, childish? I was a people pleaser. It
Speaker 1: was real bad, real real bad. I don't know. I think,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was all bad, I think, And
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to. I don't even know
Speaker 1: how to articulate who she was. You know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 3: Well, how'd you know it was bad? Like what happened
Speaker 3: that made you feel like? This is something I gotta.
Speaker 2: Change friendships people telling her the truth. Yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's a That's another way
Speaker 2: to work on your confidence is to have people around
Speaker 2: you that will tell you the truth and you take
Speaker 2: it and you try to grow from it and you
Speaker 2: do something about.
Speaker 6: It, versus like just staying in the same in the same.
Speaker 2: Place, because somebody could have told you the truth a
Speaker 2: month ago and you could have, you know, retaliated against it, Like, No,
Speaker 2: that's not who I am.
Speaker 6: You gotta accept me for who I am. You know
Speaker 6: what I mean.
Speaker 2: But I think I've seen I think we've seen you
Speaker 2: grow in your in your confidence even when you're in crowds.
Speaker 2: How do you take crowds now, Like when you're in
Speaker 2: a crowd of people and you feel and fly.
Speaker 1: I still don't like crowds. I don't think I've changed
Speaker 1: with crowds. I still don't like crowds.
Speaker 6: I think that you and Sarah are just alike with that.
Speaker 2: I think that I think that Sarah is not good
Speaker 2: at crowds either, So.
Speaker 3: Is count fol Why would you tell woman evolved with
Speaker 3: forty thousand of them that I don't like crowd I'm
Speaker 3: gonna keep it. Hein't gonna edit it. But just know
Speaker 3: I am who I am because of you all because
Speaker 3: I was never out there trying to be in the crowd.
Speaker 3: We outside. I guess that's hilarious.
Speaker 2: I think I think you got to push it into
Speaker 2: the crowd, you know, with your with your calling and
Speaker 2: and it just it requires you to be with the
Speaker 2: crowd even when you want to.
Speaker 6: You are a loner. If you could be at home and.
Speaker 2: Cook and clean and play them kids all day long
Speaker 2: and play with PT all day long, that's all you
Speaker 2: would do, man, that's all you would do.
Speaker 6: How does it work for you getting out? Like?
Speaker 2: What do you what do you think you've grown with people?
Speaker 2: Like internal relationships, external relationships and being in public? How
Speaker 2: do you feel like you've grown over the past, Like
Speaker 2: how's your confidence? Because I know sometimes it's hard, Like
Speaker 2: you can struggle in a room, not necessarily just because
Speaker 2: like oh I don't want to be here around people
Speaker 2: because I don't like people. But sometimes it's something that
Speaker 2: we deal with internally, and sometimes it's confidence. I walk
Speaker 2: in a room sometimes I get this big, which is
Speaker 2: why I don't like going into those rooms. How do
Speaker 2: you deal with that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I definitely prefer to be behind the scenes. And
Speaker 3: I think that part of the reason why I have
Speaker 3: had to come out of my shell is because God's
Speaker 3: assignment all my life has put me in a position
Speaker 3: that requires I think more about what is required for
Speaker 3: His power to work through me versus what makes me comfortable.
Speaker 3: And by like not being around crowds, it's not necessarily
Speaker 3: like that, I don't. I just don't like small talk,
Speaker 3: you know, walking into spaces where it feels like status
Speaker 3: is important, or like people you know, whether no matter
Speaker 3: where you are on the total pole, because as a
Speaker 3: fourteen year old teen mom, I'd walk into some rooms
Speaker 3: and they're like, hey, you can send in a corner,
Speaker 3: nobody wants to hear from you. But now I walk
Speaker 3: in and I am whoever I am, And a lot
Speaker 3: of times people want to talk to who they think
Speaker 3: I am, but they don't really want to get to
Speaker 3: know me. And so I think I do the best
Speaker 3: when people like Part of the reason why I do
Speaker 3: well with like woman evolved Me in Greece is because
Speaker 3: most of the time they come up to me and
Speaker 3: they're like, girl, your wig and like girl, what you said,
Speaker 3: and like that best friend in my head. Energy is
Speaker 3: good for me because it doesn't make me feel like
Speaker 3: I have to break through small talk. And so I
Speaker 3: do think that it speaks to how God will position
Speaker 3: you and environments that are uncomfortable, but they're not a
Speaker 3: drastic difference from what it will take for you to
Speaker 3: be the best version of yourself. Because if what I
Speaker 3: had to do, man, I walked into rooms like cold
Speaker 3: all of the time and I had to like speak
Speaker 3: up and find myself and advocate for myself, I think
Speaker 3: that I would not be very successful at that. So
Speaker 3: I think God was like, I am gonna make you
Speaker 3: go into the some rooms. You are going to be
Speaker 3: around people. You're gonna be very exposed and very visible,
Speaker 3: but I'm going to make sure that you feel a
Speaker 3: sense of safety in the community that I orchestrate to
Speaker 3: be around you. And so I think, I mean, it
Speaker 3: just goes into the reality that God takes into account
Speaker 3: all of who you are and then still calls you
Speaker 3: out of who you are. But he doesn't do it
Speaker 3: in a way that so good. It like, he doesn't
Speaker 3: do it in a way that requires you to be
Speaker 3: someone you're not, Like I can only be me. So
Speaker 3: when I'm speaking when I'm in a room, I can
Speaker 3: only be myself, and sometimes that's nervous, sometimes it's shy
Speaker 3: and like you can hear me trembling in my when
Speaker 3: I first speak, but like I obey and then God's powers.
Speaker 2: Anyway, rooms are ones that God has called you too,
Speaker 2: and you're just gonna be exposed and uncomfortable, versus the
Speaker 2: rooms that you just flat out Annoyd in.
Speaker 3: M Well, I mean anything. I know for sure that
Speaker 3: like I am called to whatever woman evolved is, so
Speaker 3: hold on a chout is that we're recording this at
Speaker 3: seven pm at night.
Speaker 6: Guys.
Speaker 3: It's a long story. But my children are home and
Speaker 3: the fourteen year old is hungry and she slammed the
Speaker 3: door in the eight year old's face. And when we
Speaker 3: get off in here, I'm gonna not be gentle parenting.
Speaker 6: That is hilarious. Can you tell me what's the what's
Speaker 6: their mom's name? The kids? What's their mom's name? Have
Speaker 6: we not they belong to you like their mom?
Speaker 3: Oh, don't want to refight you in front of a
Speaker 3: live audience. Don't get fought, you know, Jay, I differentiate,
Speaker 3: differentiate between the rooms that I'm called to be in
Speaker 3: versus the ones that I think are just you know,
Speaker 3: another opportunity by really asking, like what purpose will be
Speaker 3: fulfilled by me walking into this space? And is it
Speaker 3: God's purpose or someone else's purpose? Because sometimes we be
Speaker 3: asking like what's my purpose? And depending on who you ask,
Speaker 3: they will have an answer, because some people will be like,
Speaker 3: your purpose is to be my yes, ma'am. Your purpose
Speaker 3: is to make sure that I get everything I want.
Speaker 3: And so I recognize that anytime I walk into a room,
Speaker 3: I am fulfilling someone's purpose, and I have to qualify
Speaker 3: whether or not that purpose is God's purpose. And so
Speaker 3: there are some things that like I want to do,
Speaker 3: but I am not willing to step outside of God's
Speaker 3: purpose and even sometimes my comfort zone. So you know,
Speaker 3: like I got invited to the Time one hundred next
Speaker 3: gallon and I really wanted to go. Okay, I really
Speaker 3: I really wanted to go because okay, let's talk, We're
Speaker 3: gonna tied it all in together. Okay. So it was
Speaker 3: right before Woman evolved, and Woman Evolve was obviously bigger
Speaker 3: than it had ever been in the past, and it
Speaker 3: was like breaking records for step and so I was
Speaker 3: having this like, oh my gosh, God, I can't believe
Speaker 3: that you would allow this fourteen year old girl to
Speaker 3: experience this, that you would use me in this way.
Speaker 3: So that's kind of like my mindset leading up to it.
Speaker 3: Then I get this like you're being honored as time
Speaker 3: one hundred next thing, and I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: should get And there's like this another layer layer of it,
Speaker 3: like these are all the things that if you felt
Speaker 3: like your power is in what you did, like would
Speaker 3: add like this shiny sticker to my name. And so
Speaker 3: I was mostly blown away by it. I get invited
Speaker 3: to the gallup. I'm like, I want to go. I want,
Speaker 3: like my fourteen year old girl to fully live in
Speaker 3: this moment and I want her to experience it. But
Speaker 3: they told me that I couldn't bring a plus one,
Speaker 3: which means that I was gonna fly to New York
Speaker 3: and go to a gallon and be in a room
Speaker 3: by myself, and I have social anxiety. At least I'm
Speaker 3: used to my man being with me because he can
Speaker 3: kind of like navigate the room, and I just like
Speaker 3: did not want to go out of my way to
Speaker 3: be uncomfortable. They weren't you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pay my own way. I don't invest in
Speaker 3: my discomfort. God, if you're gonna call me out here,
Speaker 3: I'll go if you send me. But I'm like, God,
Speaker 3: I'm not preaching a message. Like we literally talking about
Speaker 3: me getting dressed up to be somewhere in a room,
Speaker 3: maybe meeting some people who are absolutely amazing. But I'll
Speaker 3: never know because all I'm going to do is sit
Speaker 3: in the corner and be like I was one of
Speaker 3: the people. Know, you know, But if I were called
Speaker 3: to preach somewhere, like we've gone into women's prisons and
Speaker 3: they were like, hey, it can only be you, Like,
Speaker 3: I will overcome that in a heartbeat because that is
Speaker 3: more important to me. That is more important to me
Speaker 3: than just being in a room to rub shoulders. So
Speaker 3: I think I qualify it based off of like, who's
Speaker 3: gonna who's going to get the purpose in the you know,
Speaker 3: glory out there?
Speaker 6: Great?
Speaker 2: That was great, like literally just figuring out because that's
Speaker 2: that's I think that's something a lot of people battle with,
Speaker 2: is knowing what rooms that they're called to and uh,
Speaker 2: and they're meant to stay in and you're meant to
Speaker 2: be uncomfortable, you know what I mean? Like and God's
Speaker 2: doing something in that room. You just got to sit
Speaker 2: there and wait and not even know what that thing is.
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 3: Can we talk about turning down big opportunities though, because
Speaker 3: there are some people who think that they will become
Speaker 3: powerful by like, however many rooms I can get in,
Speaker 3: However many opportunities, I need to take advantage of them.
Speaker 3: I don't want to miss my moment. So I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go to everything. I'm gonna look the part, even if
Speaker 3: I don't have the money, because like, I am chasing
Speaker 3: power down and I think when we do that, obviously
Speaker 3: there are a lot of room for air. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of room for air. But like, how do you
Speaker 3: qualify when opportunities are in front of you that look powerful,
Speaker 3: that could change your financial situation, that could change your status,
Speaker 3: or maybe you're working with someone, how do you qualify
Speaker 3: whether or like, how have you maybe turned down opportunities
Speaker 3: that other people would like die for this? How do
Speaker 3: you do that?
Speaker 6: Why I have a story to tell my God?
Speaker 1: I mean I don't have a story, but I just
Speaker 1: be like no, I just say no, and I don't
Speaker 1: care at all because I'm not I'm not that girl.
Speaker 1: I don't chase. I don't chase a bag like that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm never pressed. It
Speaker 1: was never that serious to me, never gave take everything,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 6: I do like that about you. I think that and
Speaker 6: I friendship.
Speaker 2: I have si that you always say you and I
Speaker 2: are completely different because I'm always on the go and
Speaker 2: I'm like, like, you're always working, and that's not what
Speaker 2: I want to do. I don't want to always I
Speaker 2: don't want to always work. But there are things that
Speaker 2: there are things that I that I liked that I
Speaker 2: work for, and I love that you were like, I
Speaker 2: want to be at a certain level when I'm there,
Speaker 2: I'm comfortable and I'm good. I haven't reached that level
Speaker 2: to know where I'm actually like comfortable at. So I
Speaker 2: had this one opportunity where I was like, I was
Speaker 2: working with this crazy, amazing superstar and everybody kept saying
Speaker 2: that it was so amazing, right like when you want
Speaker 2: to start, it's a stylish dream to work with this person.
Speaker 2: And so I had the opportunity to work with them.
Speaker 2: And when I was working with them, this was this
Speaker 2: was maybe three years ago, and I started doing some
Speaker 2: work and they wanted they wanted me to come in
Speaker 2: and do create direction for their brand, and it would
Speaker 2: require me to move everything that I had just kind
Speaker 2: of gotten started it on the ground here in Dallas,
Speaker 2: which is my own office, my own team, and I
Speaker 2: just started to kind of cultivate things. And then they
Speaker 2: were like, we're attracted to what you have, but we
Speaker 2: don't want it in Dallas. We want you to uproot
Speaker 2: it and bring it to Los Angeles. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: that sounds pretty good, so let me try to get
Speaker 2: everybody involved I possibly can, from you know, CPA's to
Speaker 2: attorneys to everybody, to really figure out if I can
Speaker 2: really do it. So they say we want you. I say, okay, cool,
Speaker 2: I'm coming. I'm going to come, but I want to
Speaker 2: make sure that the numbers are right. The numbers were
Speaker 2: never right. And we went back and forth and back
Speaker 2: and forth and back and forth, and to the point
Speaker 2: where I was just like, you know what, forget it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to do it because if they can't
Speaker 2: pay me my worth, I don't want to be there.
Speaker 2: I turned it into a worth thing more than it was,
Speaker 2: more than it was anything, because that would help me
Speaker 2: to turn it down easier, because a person devaluing my worth.
Speaker 2: So that was my way of making that excuse to myself.
Speaker 2: And so later they came back and said, we're going
Speaker 2: to meet your number. Well, now I got to put
Speaker 2: my big boy drawers on because it's like, okay, you're
Speaker 2: going to mean my number. So I mean, now I
Speaker 2: have to really show up.
Speaker 6: Yo.
Speaker 2: I called one of my friends and I said, I
Speaker 2: don't know what to do. And I said, I have
Speaker 2: this I have this opportunity coming up, and I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I should take it or not.
Speaker 2: Something that just didn't feel right about taking it. Well,
Speaker 2: I had a dream, and the dream was that I
Speaker 2: sat down. And I sat down, and I was sitting
Speaker 2: in a chair and there was a oven sitting in
Speaker 2: front of me. I was sitting on a lazy board
Speaker 2: couch and there was an oven across the room in
Speaker 2: front of me, and I was cooking chocolate chip cookies
Speaker 2: in the oven.
Speaker 6: Follow me, okay, don't judge, follow me, I mean big.
Speaker 2: So I'm literally I'm on this couch and this lady
Speaker 2: passes by and she says, oh my god, I want
Speaker 2: some of your cookies that you're baking, and can I
Speaker 2: have one, and I said, yes, but it's going to
Speaker 2: take a minute before they're done. I sit on the
Speaker 2: couch and as I'm waiting, there was an event above
Speaker 2: my head, and that then above my head, I could
Speaker 2: see a reflection behind me of a big snake that
Speaker 2: was forcing itself, shaking, trying to bite the top of
Speaker 2: my head.
Speaker 6: And I literally woke up from the dream.
Speaker 2: And when I woke up from the dream, the revelation
Speaker 2: that I had the next day is that, well, the
Speaker 2: next day.
Speaker 6: I ended up turning the job down.
Speaker 2: I felt sick as a dog, and I said, this
Speaker 2: had the dream had to have been about this. And
Speaker 2: one day, two days later, the entire world shut down.
Speaker 6: So the actual the actual facility.
Speaker 2: That they had that I was gonna do creative direction
Speaker 2: over shut down and fired everybody. So I would have
Speaker 2: uprooted everything to move to Los Angeles, thinking that this
Speaker 2: is gonna be and would have been stuffing and just
Speaker 2: would have been moving on my own, chasing the bag,
Speaker 2: chasing opportunity and chasing the chasing the fame, honestly, because
Speaker 2: it's just cool to be known to be working in
Speaker 2: that particular position. And so revelation was is that that
Speaker 2: snake was the opportunity that was trying to take my
Speaker 2: head off, and in the reality, the cookies that were
Speaker 2: baking was a product that I was able to build,
Speaker 2: and I had women that were patient enough that wanted
Speaker 2: what I had to offer that didn't require me to
Speaker 2: move it all. So that's the reason why I was
Speaker 2: sitting in a lazy boy and I was watching the
Speaker 2: cookies bake, and it took time for me to grow.
Speaker 6: They were willing to grow with me.
Speaker 2: So that's my story of how I literally turned down
Speaker 2: the opportunity and was.
Speaker 6: Sick as a dog.
Speaker 2: I literally I remember puking, thinking I just turned down something,
Speaker 2: and I felt like I let down everybody in the
Speaker 2: industry that was in my position that wanted my position
Speaker 2: to say, you're turning this down, Like, why would you
Speaker 2: turn something down like that when everybody wants to be there?
Speaker 2: And so that was my moment I turned it down.
Speaker 2: I felt my most free turning that position away, and
Speaker 2: now not having to chase a bag, I can say
Speaker 2: no to other things now comfortably.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Wow. You know I played dominoes and we have this
Speaker 3: like all money ain't good money, it's very much so
Speaker 3: given that like all power ain't good power.
Speaker 1: Right, No, it's I think what's wild is the amount
Speaker 1: of people that tell me they want to be in
Speaker 1: my position, They want to do what I'm doing, they
Speaker 1: would love to have you know, one person that work
Speaker 1: with and I'm just like why, like not why? But
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think people realize they don't
Speaker 1: give what people are thinking good. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like you're chasing the wrong thing. It never give.
Speaker 2: I think that though, because it looks it looks like
Speaker 2: what it's not. It looks like something else. So when
Speaker 2: you're chasing a bad.
Speaker 1: I got into this on accident. I feel like God,
Speaker 1: just on accident. Yeah no, no, I'm so serious. And
Speaker 1: I think I don't know. I was never attached to
Speaker 1: it like that ever heard. I never wanted to be
Speaker 1: a celebrity. Nothing.
Speaker 3: I think my biggest thing right now is like trying
Speaker 3: to not lose that original like lack of intention now
Speaker 3: that I have to be intentional, if that makes sense.
Speaker 3: So like I didn't get into you know, I did
Speaker 3: not start Woman Evolve on purpose. I've never been the
Speaker 3: girl who was like one day I'm gonna have a
Speaker 3: women's ministry. I've always been this like off to myself
Speaker 3: kind of girl. So when it became clear that like
Speaker 3: something was happening, it's very easy to have your purpose
Speaker 3: hijacked by other people's purposes. And people underestimate that when
Speaker 3: God gives you a purpose, that you also have to
Speaker 3: do the work of that purpose because it is easily
Speaker 3: hijacked and it gets hijacked by other people's opportunities. It
Speaker 3: gets hijacked by other people's motives and what you will
Speaker 3: allow or won't allow. And so I think my hardest
Speaker 3: task is making sure that like things remain pure, that
Speaker 3: I don't start taking ownership of something that I didn't
Speaker 3: even start where I'm like I did this, I built this,
Speaker 3: I got this, or start like inviting people into an
Speaker 3: environment that is so potent when pure that it becomes
Speaker 3: you know, pretend or performance because I started losing my
Speaker 3: vision on what it was supposed to be. Well, I
Speaker 3: hope that that conversation was as enjoyable. We get a
Speaker 3: lot of kicking going on in our group message, so
Speaker 3: I hope we didn't annoy you too much, but I
Speaker 3: hope that you guys some really good nuggets from the
Speaker 3: conversation I am still mayoring this idea that the women
Speaker 3: who are the most powerful don't feel powerful at all,
Speaker 3: and the women who think they're powerful are not powerful
Speaker 3: at least not in the way that they think they are.
Speaker 3: What is that? And how do we get to a
Speaker 3: place where we can really own who we are? But
Speaker 3: with humility, I want to say that I am really
Speaker 3: living in that space. I feel more confident in who
Speaker 3: I am than I have ever felt, and it doesn't
Speaker 3: feel prideful at all, because I also feel so confident
Speaker 3: that I'm raggedy broken, that I need Jesus, and that
Speaker 3: when Jesus and our partner, that amazing things happen, and
Speaker 3: that I'm funny and I'm not the some results of
Speaker 3: my mistakes, and that my accolades don't define me either.
Speaker 3: Like I really feel like I'm finding this sweet spot
Speaker 3: of confidence that doesn't require me to stay locked into
Speaker 3: anyone's box. I believe that that is a direct result
Speaker 3: of just truly radically embracing authenticity. And when we radically
Speaker 3: embrace authenticity, we have no choice but to become powerful.
Speaker 3: You all have to pre order my book Power Moves.
Speaker 3: It's going to serve you so well and I can't
Speaker 3: believe I'm saying that I was nervous about it. I
Speaker 3: wrote the book and then you know how I'm preaching.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know if this makes any sense
Speaker 3: about I'm gonna give it to you. Anyway. I got
Speaker 3: to read the book for the audio book just last week.
Speaker 3: I think it was it was last week because I
Speaker 3: recorded the interview after doing the audiobook and the kids
Speaker 3: were acting crazy. But anyway, reading through the book, it
Speaker 3: helped me to realize that there's some really good nuggets
Speaker 3: in here, and if just one or two of these
Speaker 3: resonate with women, it's going to really serve them in
Speaker 3: a season where they are becoming So you guys, download
Speaker 3: the book. I am going to continue to unpack what
Speaker 3: it means to be powerful, how do we tap into
Speaker 3: with how we embrace it. I'm going to continue to
Speaker 3: ask some people who I admire to join me as
Speaker 3: we dive into this discussion of becoming powerful. How do
Speaker 3: we do it? How do we shed the skin of
Speaker 3: our past? How do we embrace the possibilities of our present?
Speaker 3: How do we trust that our destiny is not going
Speaker 3: anywhere without us? What's that? Pastor Phil, Pastor Phil Monsey
Speaker 3: says that all the time. If you are at one,
Speaker 3: you probably have heard it a million times. That is
Speaker 3: what I'm looking forward to unpacking, and I cannot wait
Speaker 3: and rescue we haven't tried in a couple weeks. Y'all
Speaker 3: need to rescue my mother. No, y'all need to rescue
Speaker 3: me from having to do my mother's hair and her
Speaker 3: saying al twenty four to seven, y'all need to rest.
Speaker 3: Y'all need to rescue gentle parenting again, or hard parenting
Speaker 3: or something, because at the end of the day, I
Speaker 3: parented her like she parented me when she was coming
Speaker 3: my haarent and she didn't enjoy it. Maybe she wants
Speaker 3: the gentle parent after all. Maybe her ways are changing.
Speaker 3: I don't know, y'all. I'm gonna ask the podcast team.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest as I am recording this at
Speaker 3: a rental in the car. We may actually have some
Speaker 3: rescue eves, but I'm sitting in the car with very
Speaker 3: limited access to Wi Fi just so that I can
Speaker 3: get you this podcast, so we will see all right,
Speaker 3: I love you guys. I will see you next week.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be so much more professional. It's gonna be amazing.
Speaker 3: You're gonna be blown away. It's gonna be fantastic, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be powerful, it's gonna beautiful, God, Holy Spirit, Jesus.
Speaker 3: When I say a Father, we need you, Jesus, please
Speaker 3: walk with us, and Holy Spirit fell us, I mean
Speaker 3: that from the bottom of my soul. Each and every
Speaker 3: day comes with a new set of circumstances and situations,
Speaker 3: and sometimes we feel powerful, and sometimes we feel so
Speaker 3: weak that it doesn't feel like power is available to
Speaker 3: us at all. But then at the very mention of
Speaker 3: your name, dem means tremble, So we say, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus,
Speaker 3: Jesus over her mind, Jesus over her heart, Jesus over
Speaker 3: her finances, Jesus over her health, Jesus over her children,
Speaker 3: Jesus over her grief. Jesus, we need you, we love you.
Speaker 3: We're so grateful we don't have to do life on
Speaker 3: our own. Please, please, my friend, tight help her to
Speaker 3: fill your presence and to never fill alone. In your name,
Speaker 3: I pray Amen, I'll see you next week.