Speaker 1: Hi. I'm Vanessa Bayer and this is my brother Jonah.
Speaker 2: We're two siblings who love to talk about our childhood
Speaker 2: in nostalgia and how shaped us into the people we
Speaker 2: are today.
Speaker 3: Who are ready for a mammoth episode of the podcast today.
Speaker 2: Welcome to How Did We Get Weird?
Speaker 1: So, Jonah, I.
Speaker 3: Know you had kind of a unique experience taking guitar
Speaker 3: lessons growing up, and in honor of our guests today
Speaker 3: who were really excited for I thought you could talk
Speaker 3: a little bit about your guitar lesson experience.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When I was thirteen, I got a guitar. It was
Speaker 2: a cork guitar and it was white with Van Halen
Speaker 2: esque kind of stripes painted on it. I think someone
Speaker 2: didn't like lipstick or something. It was very, very kind
Speaker 2: of crude, but I thought it was like the coolest guitar.
Speaker 2: And I took lessons at the place in Cleveland. It
Speaker 2: was a musing store. But then the lessons were in
Speaker 2: the basement and it took lessons from this guy Andy,
Speaker 2: who chained smoked the whole time, and it was like
Speaker 2: an unfinished basement and he would just play like Metallica,
Speaker 2: Search and Destroy and show me how to play it,
Speaker 2: and I remember at one point I think Mom heard
Speaker 2: there was some like kind of sketchy stuff happening at
Speaker 2: this store, Like I got a guitar from them, and
Speaker 2: I think it might have been stolen. I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: they were like what color do you want? I was
Speaker 2: like this, and they're like, oh, we can't get that,
Speaker 2: but how's this one? We have this one right now.
Speaker 2: So I got my first less Peul studio there. But yeah,
Speaker 2: eventually I switched to his place, Academy Music. I started
Speaker 2: with this guy, Dave Baker, who was great. But I
Speaker 2: remember Mom being like, you can't keep going to this
Speaker 2: place as like a fourteen year old kid. It's not
Speaker 2: because it was maybe a front for drugs or something. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there was. Yeah, I think there was some weird stuff
Speaker 2: going on there. I think Mom's instinct were good. I was.
Speaker 2: I was mad, though I thought it was super fun.
Speaker 2: I was like, I get take hang out with this
Speaker 2: like old guy with long hair who's Gonnamoke cigarettes, show
Speaker 2: Metallica songs.
Speaker 1: I kind of remember you being mad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was bummed, but yeah, it all it all
Speaker 2: worked out in the end. But yeah, I don't know
Speaker 2: what happened to that core guitar, but it was I
Speaker 2: had that in a small little gorilla amp and I yes,
Speaker 2: played on that thing a lot, absolutely rocking, totally rockin.
Speaker 2: But speaking of rockin, let's get into today's guests. Yes,
Speaker 2: you know him from playing bass in van Halen Tremonti
Speaker 2: and obviously fronting his own neck Mammoth WVH. They've toured
Speaker 2: with everyone from Guns n' Roses to def Leppard. Let's
Speaker 2: give a warm welcome to Wolfgang van Halen and Wolfgang.
Speaker 2: How's it going.
Speaker 4: I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you ever have like a sketchy guitar lesson
Speaker 2: experience or probably not?
Speaker 5: It's not really I mean I never really took lessons
Speaker 5: at all. Okay, my dad taught me how to play
Speaker 5: one thing. I wanted to learn how to play guitar
Speaker 5: for a It was a graduation I guess they call
Speaker 5: it step up. It was a performance at school, and
Speaker 5: I wanted to learn how to play this song called
Speaker 5: three sixteen. It was a song my dad had written
Speaker 5: for me when I was born. He taught me how
Speaker 5: to play that, and then from there I would just
Speaker 5: kind of look at like guitar tabs online to figure
Speaker 5: out how to play like Chop Suey by system of
Speaker 5: a down and stuff in blank E two and.
Speaker 4: Uh and from there I just kind of taught myself.
Speaker 3: Okay, what was step up? How old were you for
Speaker 3: step up? What grade was that?
Speaker 4: Was it a like fifth grade?
Speaker 1: It was fifth so fifth grade so like a middle
Speaker 1: school graduation.
Speaker 5: Or like, uh it was the school I went to.
Speaker 5: It was as still elementary.
Speaker 1: It was kind of elementary, yes, yes, okay, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah it was.
Speaker 5: There was like a for step up every grade, like
Speaker 5: they'd have like song performances and stuff and and uh
Speaker 5: I remember one time maybe it was that year. I
Speaker 5: think like all the popular girls sung the Friends theme
Speaker 5: song and stuff. But but yeah, yeah, I and then
Speaker 5: I got up there and I just played this like
Speaker 5: really somber finger picked acoustic guitar thing, like so not
Speaker 5: like what people put here. But it was my first
Speaker 5: thing of like learning how to play and it felt good.
Speaker 3: So I bet your song in retrospect was so much cooler.
Speaker 3: Not that we don't know disrespective friends, but it feels
Speaker 3: so deeply embarrassing to sing that theme song with your friends.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were kind of like unenthused about it, you know,
Speaker 5: like just the typical like popular girl just kind of
Speaker 5: standing there with like locked.
Speaker 4: Knees just kind of like sing it. And they weren't
Speaker 4: even singing the harmonies.
Speaker 5: They were just singing one vocal pattern of it.
Speaker 4: They were I.
Speaker 2: Can picture it.
Speaker 1: That's so good.
Speaker 2: That's incredible. Yeah. So you so you you performed there?
Speaker 2: How did you? How do your performance go over at
Speaker 2: step up?
Speaker 5: I think it well, I tend to kind of blank
Speaker 5: up when I get so nervous. I still get nervous
Speaker 5: to this day, and I kind of just go somewhere else,
Speaker 5: and then I luckily have a bunch of people around
Speaker 5: me that I love and uh and that support me,
Speaker 5: that go like, yeah you did all right, that was good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I kind of just like go away for a second sometimes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that makes sense, you know, Me, me and
Speaker 2: Vanessa's our dad owns a packaging factory and so that
Speaker 2: was not something we were really interested in as adults.
Speaker 2: He ended up getting someone else bought the company. That's
Speaker 2: a long story, but not involving us. Yeah, but I
Speaker 2: was curious, like for you obviously, your dad being you know,
Speaker 2: such a legendary guitar player, was Was it something you
Speaker 2: were interested in initially or was it like how I
Speaker 2: feel about packaging more like, this is what my dad
Speaker 2: does and I'm not into it.
Speaker 5: I think it just had to do with maybe just
Speaker 5: the exposure of just being around it my whole life. Sure,
Speaker 5: it just felt like a natural thing. It was what
Speaker 5: I was interested in the most, other than video games.
Speaker 5: I just you know, I started playing drums when I
Speaker 5: was nine, so I was already just like into listening
Speaker 5: to music and figuring out how to play it. That
Speaker 5: by the time I picked up guitar as well, I
Speaker 5: was just kind of in it, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, were you and you grew up in Santa Monica?
Speaker 5: Is that I was born in Santa Monica because that's
Speaker 5: where Saint John's the hospital is, But I was raised
Speaker 5: in Studio City.
Speaker 4: Just to start a rally, kid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you play outside a lot? Did you skateboard?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 2: What's kind of your childhood like as far as like.
Speaker 5: I wanted to skateboard so bad one year, but my
Speaker 5: dad wouldn't let me unless I was wearing risk guards.
Speaker 4: Because if I heard my wouldn't be able to play music.
Speaker 5: Smart Looking back on that, that was very smart, but
Speaker 5: you didn't want to be that loser with the helmet
Speaker 5: and risk guards and knee pads and shint guards and
Speaker 5: everybody would make fun of you. So I just kind
Speaker 5: of stopped and focused on on the But yeah, no,
Speaker 5: I did, I remember, God, what did I do? My
Speaker 5: mom put me in all the extra curricular I played basketball,
Speaker 5: I played soccer, and then I remember I did baseball.
Speaker 4: I like t ball. That was fun.
Speaker 5: Once kids started pitching, and this one kid hit me
Speaker 5: like three times pitching to me, I was.
Speaker 4: Like, Mom, I'm done, please can we stop? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: What was interesting to me about that story was your
Speaker 3: dad is obviously legendary musician Eddie van Halen for anyone
Speaker 3: who just doesn't know that, right, And I'm not as a.
Speaker 4: Fan of the band, I didn't change interesting, Toty.
Speaker 1: Knew so much about your favorite band.
Speaker 3: So but it's interesting because you think of rock stars
Speaker 3: as being like so not caring about safety. But I
Speaker 3: love that he was like, you have to wear like cars.
Speaker 3: And then your mom, being Valerie Bertinelli, like, I like that.
Speaker 3: You know, she obviously encouraged you to play sports, But
Speaker 3: did you ever want to go into acting?
Speaker 1: At all. Was that interesting to you at all?
Speaker 5: I did take theater. I think that was one of
Speaker 5: the few classes I actually got an A in. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I have affinity an affinity for it. It's it's a
Speaker 5: lot of fun. I think I've just been so into
Speaker 5: music I've never really given it a shot. Yeah, I
Speaker 5: mean I have fun, like like for our dumb little
Speaker 5: music videos we have with my band. We have a
Speaker 5: lot of fun doing stuff like that. But yeah, I'd
Speaker 5: be into that at some point, but I'm just so
Speaker 5: focused on on the music right now.
Speaker 4: I feel like I don't have the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes me feeling about My wife will only
Speaker 2: let me skateboard in the driveway with a helmet on.
Speaker 2: And I'm an adult, so I think it's like it's tough.
Speaker 2: Like so it's like when you're a kid, it's dangerous,
Speaker 2: but it almost feels like an adult, like I'm forty four,
Speaker 2: it's actually more dangerous.
Speaker 4: Oh much more, much more.
Speaker 5: You can you just like I got up weird the
Speaker 5: other day and I had a pain in my shoulder
Speaker 5: for like a week.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you can injure yourself just sleeping now. It's
Speaker 2: like it's a bummer. Yeah, so you got into more
Speaker 2: like metal and stuff like I know you're a fan
Speaker 2: of a Suga and some of those kind of heavier bands.
Speaker 2: How did you kind of get exposed to that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff?
Speaker 5: Let's see, I mean I always grew up, I mean
Speaker 5: Van Halen being a a I guess technically hard rock band.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 5: I've always been interested in rock. You know, ACDC was
Speaker 5: the first band my dad and I really bonded over.
Speaker 5: And I mean from there, I really liked blinkin eighty
Speaker 5: two and then System of a Down and then I
Speaker 5: discovered Tool, who I actually just saw last night.
Speaker 4: It was it was.
Speaker 2: Amazing, really, how was that?
Speaker 4: It was really great?
Speaker 5: This show was insane, and I think discovering bands like
Speaker 5: Tool and then it kind of snowballed to bands like
Speaker 5: like Mushuka and stuff, that's where I really, I guess
Speaker 5: uh started loving heavier music.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's I remember speaking of Tool. I remember
Speaker 2: years ago, like there was a situation where you were
Speaker 2: at a show and someone asked your dad to take
Speaker 2: a photo of them, of them, but he didn't know
Speaker 2: it was him or something just.
Speaker 5: Looked like a dude, you know, he didn't know he
Speaker 5: was were striped overalls, and had a guitar, you know,
Speaker 5: and uh yeah it was the end of so tool
Speaker 5: have a have a very specific which I think is
Speaker 5: really cool.
Speaker 4: No phone policy for the whole show amazing.
Speaker 5: Like literally last night, if anybody pulled the phone out,
Speaker 5: there were security guards who would flash a flashlight at you.
Speaker 5: You're living in the moment tonight, which is pretty cool
Speaker 5: and pop actually uh listened to that. But then at
Speaker 5: the end, Maynard the vocalist is like, okay, guys, you
Speaker 5: can you can take your crack pipes out and start
Speaker 5: just fill everything that you want. And then everybody filmed
Speaker 5: it and at the end you people can take pictures
Speaker 5: of the stage and stuff. And this random dude it
Speaker 5: was in twenty nineteen, walked up to my dad and
Speaker 5: was just.
Speaker 4: Like, hey, can you take a quick picture of me?
Speaker 4: It was like picture of me?
Speaker 5: Oh okay, yeah, And in that moment I just thought
Speaker 5: it was so hilarious that I took a picture of
Speaker 5: him taking the picture and posted it and not really
Speaker 5: one of the guy like, I thought it was really
Speaker 5: cute and hilarious and it just blew up.
Speaker 3: It was really really, that's so funny that happens to
Speaker 3: me kind of a lot too.
Speaker 1: Yeah sure, And I go, well, I guess you don't
Speaker 1: give a crap about me.
Speaker 3: But I'm no Eddie Van anyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I never saw a tool I saw. I could
Speaker 2: have seen him on the Undertow tour and I didn't.
Speaker 2: But I saw a sound Garden on the super Unknown
Speaker 2: tour instead that summer.
Speaker 5: That's pretty incredible. I think that's a trade. That's a
Speaker 5: worthy trade.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I've told Jonah that my claim to fame is
Speaker 3: that I met Chris Cornell at SNL and he and
Speaker 3: I told him that everyone told me I look like
Speaker 3: the girl in Black Hole son who's jumping rope. And
Speaker 3: he was sort of like huh. And I was like,
Speaker 3: and I used to have braces, And he was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I see it.
Speaker 4: As that's amazing.
Speaker 3: I was just going to ask, speaking of the nineties,
Speaker 3: were we talking about the nineties.
Speaker 1: I don't know anyway.
Speaker 3: I remember that there was a Van Halen song that
Speaker 3: scored a clear pepsi commercial?
Speaker 1: Am I right that right now? Scored?
Speaker 4: I think right now? What's in the crystal pepsi campaign?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: Were you getting crystal pepsi left and right in your
Speaker 3: house during that time?
Speaker 5: Maybe I feel like that was probably I was like
Speaker 5: two years old, so I when that album came out
Speaker 5: in what ninety my dad was recording it when I
Speaker 5: was born, Okay, okay ninety two, So I if there
Speaker 5: was I was not aware because it probably kay Water honestly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, two year old gang, you're probably gone, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're not interested in that. It's been a few years, yeah, Jonah.
Speaker 3: And I just remember every kind of like free food
Speaker 3: that we've ever got.
Speaker 2: Like our dad got like free hero sand those like
Speaker 2: sandwiches because he almost was buying this business. And so
Speaker 2: we talk about that a lot still. But I imagine
Speaker 2: you probably you guys probably got send stuff all the time.
Speaker 5: I think the one free food thing that I ever
Speaker 5: was like stoked about as a kid is when my
Speaker 5: mom was Untouched by an Angel and they filmed that
Speaker 5: in Park City, Utah.
Speaker 4: Wow, and uh a wonderful place if you haven't been there.
Speaker 4: I love it up there.
Speaker 5: But I would go to the craft service truck and
Speaker 5: steal all the payday bars.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah.
Speaker 5: Was with me, like we would be like we're gonna
Speaker 5: grab like eight pay days.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty sophisticated candy bar for a kid.
Speaker 5: A lot of peanuts, and I was just I don't
Speaker 5: know why I was into it. That doesn't seem like
Speaker 5: a that's a good, very chocolate. Yeah, but a sophisticated palace.
Speaker 3: You had a sophisticate how and your mom it's quite
Speaker 3: a cook, so you know she probably raised you to
Speaker 3: get past the like basic stuff at a pretty young
Speaker 3: age and you're onto paydays.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was advanced in my in my in my
Speaker 4: candy eating years.
Speaker 2: There's something really satisfying as a kid to get like
Speaker 2: a full sized candy bar, because I feel like Halloween,
Speaker 2: all the holidays are getting these like tiny ones, and
Speaker 2: then I feel like, yeah.
Speaker 4: The full sized candy bars. You knew where? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I always go to my my friend slash Manager's house
Speaker 3: Christy Halloween and I help her pass out candy and
Speaker 3: she has and we always with a few other people,
Speaker 3: we always pass out full sized candy bars. And the
Speaker 3: reaction from kids and adults is so wild, like everyone
Speaker 3: can't believe that the candy bars are full size, and
Speaker 3: they always try and sneak back and get like a
Speaker 3: second candy bars.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm including the adults in this, by the way, and
Speaker 1: we have to say no to them.
Speaker 3: It's really humiliating, I think for the adults because it's
Speaker 3: like you shouldn't have even asked for one. This isn't
Speaker 3: your holidays, you know what I mean. But yeah, people
Speaker 3: love full sized candy bars.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: As a kid, it's just like this thing is enormous
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna have so much sugar.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll never forget. And you know, like every set
Speaker 5: always has a big thing of red vines always, you know,
Speaker 5: So it's like, oh, it's just like I like my
Speaker 5: dad always just had a handful of red vines anytime
Speaker 5: we were visiting my mom on set.
Speaker 3: Oh that's so fun. That's so fun. And I'm a
Speaker 3: Twizzlers person. And still I'd eat through all of those.
Speaker 5: You'd eat all he was all about, Like I remember
Speaker 5: he always had a bag of Twizzlers with him too,
Speaker 5: Like he was always about Twizzlers.
Speaker 4: He loved me.
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. We're going to take a quick break and
Speaker 2: we'll be right back with Wolfgang van Halen and we're back.
Speaker 2: Wo We're gonna get into our topic, but really quick.
Speaker 2: You know, something I always speaking of being a kid,
Speaker 2: I dreamed of was having my own signature guitar. It
Speaker 2: hasn't happened yet. It's looking more more unlikely.
Speaker 1: John, I don't say that.
Speaker 4: I don't say that's only dreams.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, it could have. It's about fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2: I know that's a little high, pretty.
Speaker 1: High percentage for somebody who's see down themselves.
Speaker 2: It's a probably like a probably like a point one.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, keep it. Fifty to fifty optimistic.
Speaker 2: Fifty to fifty. Yeah, right, Fender's probably trying to call
Speaker 2: me right now. But uh, you know, you have a
Speaker 2: lot of them and you have a new one. I mean,
Speaker 2: how fun is it to design your own guitar? I
Speaker 2: mean that must be incredible.
Speaker 4: It's a really special thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: We just announced on my dad's birthday at this point,
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago. So for the unfamiliar, my
Speaker 5: dad's guitar company and am company EVH Gear in partnership
Speaker 5: with Fender. I guess it's a specialty brand under like
Speaker 5: the umbrella of it. And my dad has been there
Speaker 5: since two thousand and seven, where he introduced the wolf
Speaker 5: Gang line of guitars named after after me as a
Speaker 5: sort of tribute return to that. The guitar that I
Speaker 5: developed is called the Essay one twenty six Essay for
Speaker 5: Semi Acoustic because it's a semi hollow guitar and one
Speaker 5: twenty six because that's his birthday. So we announced that
Speaker 5: on his birthday and it'll be out in May. I've
Speaker 5: been playing it live for the last two years, crash
Speaker 5: testing it, as my dad would would say, because he
Speaker 5: would always I remember when he was developing the fifty
Speaker 5: one to fifty three line of guitar amps. He was
Speaker 5: up at the studio for a week. He turned all
Speaker 5: the knobs fully up and left a guitar in front
Speaker 5: of it, feeding back, and then just left it sitting
Speaker 5: there for an entire week. And if you were down
Speaker 5: at the house and listened, you could kind of hear
Speaker 5: A and C. You would go up to the studio
Speaker 5: and open, you know, the soundproof doors. It would just
Speaker 5: get louder and louder to find, you know, the loudest
Speaker 5: sound happening up at the studio.
Speaker 4: And the amp didn't blow up, so it was it
Speaker 4: was ready. I guess at that point, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: That's so cool.
Speaker 3: Jonah, I'm gonna that's going to be your next president,
Speaker 3: I'm going to get you that guitar.
Speaker 5: All right, Yeah, I know somebody at the guitar I
Speaker 5: might be able to help you out. I could also
Speaker 5: talk to Fender about your your signature model.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, next maybe just mentioned it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so cool you it's such a cool dad.
Speaker 3: And you know our dad again owned a packaging company.
Speaker 1: Technically is.
Speaker 4: I love it? Yeah.
Speaker 2: If you have to hook you up with some like
Speaker 2: that stuff that you fill your tire with if you
Speaker 2: get a flat tire, I think.
Speaker 3: He's or if you buy something that's shrink wrapped, like
Speaker 3: a CD or something, I.
Speaker 4: Will see because I unfortunately have popped a lot of tires.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll hook you up'll hook you.
Speaker 3: Up, but we can get something shrink wrapped again if
Speaker 3: you want to return it. So it's like almost the opposite.
Speaker 3: Like if you if you need to get rid of something,
Speaker 3: he can rewrap it for you in a way that'll
Speaker 3: look like you never opened it.
Speaker 5: That's awesome. I will absolutely take you up on that.
Speaker 2: Good. Well yeah, well we've trade, we can trade. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we can trade. That's totally that's a fair trade.
Speaker 4: I'll give you a guitar. You guys can can the
Speaker 4: DVD of Liar Liar for me.
Speaker 3: That can give you this some like shit that fills
Speaker 3: your tire. Yeah that probably doesn't even work. Yeah, we're
Speaker 3: a good business. This is a good deal, absolutely good
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2: So okay, we talked a lot about topic ideas, and
Speaker 2: so you came with a great one, Nintendo sixty four.
Speaker 2: What was your kind of relationship like with Nintendo sixty four.
Speaker 2: Was this like your first big console or how do
Speaker 2: you think back on it.
Speaker 4: I am a giant nerd.
Speaker 5: I'm playing playing guitar or you know, music, I'm playing
Speaker 5: video games, and I grew up. I think my mom
Speaker 5: maybe regrets it to a bit that I grew up
Speaker 5: in a house that had everything. I had the Sega
Speaker 5: Genesis and the Super Nintendo. But the really big thing
Speaker 5: was when that Christmas where the Nintendo sixty four came out.
Speaker 5: I mean there's that famous video that kid freaking out
Speaker 5: with the Nintendo sixty four. That was such a big
Speaker 5: thing for me because I don't think there's ever going
Speaker 5: to be a jump like that again from two D
Speaker 5: games to a third dimension, like moving Mario around Peach's castle,
Speaker 5: that first time was the most amazing and incredibly frustrating
Speaker 5: thing because you just didn't know how to do it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that always stuck in my mind as.
Speaker 5: One of the crazy video game memories growing up was
Speaker 5: getting the Nintendo sixty four.
Speaker 4: I love that thing.
Speaker 2: Were there any games like because I remember the thing
Speaker 2: I remember the most is going from Super Mario Kart
Speaker 2: from Super Nintendo and then it coming on n sixty
Speaker 2: four and yeah, and it being so three D. I mean,
Speaker 2: were you into that game? Like, what were some of
Speaker 2: the games that you were at?
Speaker 5: Mario Kart sixty four, Super Mario sixty four, the Legend
Speaker 5: of Zelda Ocarina of Time.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've beaten that game.
Speaker 5: I beat it for fun two weeks ago, just because,
Speaker 5: like I still just play it all the time. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I was a big Mario guy growing up. Like being
Speaker 5: able to to play it in all a new dimension
Speaker 5: was was.
Speaker 4: Ridiculous to me at the time. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2: What's the deal with Warrio? That's like the evil Mario.
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's it's weird. I feel like I don't know
Speaker 5: if I've done enough research on this, but I feel
Speaker 5: like it's like he doesn't like Mario, and he's not
Speaker 5: related like he he's not like an evil brother, He's
Speaker 5: just like he.
Speaker 1: Just happens to have a really similar name.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess he's I guess he uses that coincidence
Speaker 5: in a proper manner favor. Yeah, his name is is
Speaker 5: my w upside down.
Speaker 6: So I got to be his enemy, I guess. So
Speaker 6: like your enemy would be like Mulf gang. There's like
Speaker 6: a gang, Yeah, would be would be my Well, I
Speaker 6: guess I would be the warrior.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4: True.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So if you're if there's any Wulf gangs out there,
Speaker 3: you better watch out.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna put your girlfriend in the castle.
Speaker 2: So yeah, So what was your kind of like did
Speaker 2: you have a specific like place you would play or
Speaker 2: like certain snacks or like what was your setup?
Speaker 5: Like my setup was right in the living room on
Speaker 5: what at the time was the most insane, hugest TV ever.
Speaker 4: Which was probably just like a thirty two inch tube TV.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: Now today we have like one hundred inch flat screams
Speaker 4: and stuff. But at the.
Speaker 5: Time, you know, you'd be sitting on the couch and
Speaker 5: it's just this tiny little box and you're like, man,
Speaker 5: the resolution is incredible. But yeah, I would just sit
Speaker 5: on the floor in the living room, and I remember
Speaker 5: playing the system before my mom could help me get
Speaker 5: through difficult parts, but once it upgraded to three D graphics,
Speaker 5: she gave up and just became the co pilot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because back.
Speaker 5: Then, without the you know, the prevalence of the Internet,
Speaker 5: you would get strategy guides.
Speaker 4: Doesn't know all the secrets, so my mom s didy
Speaker 4: guides and she.
Speaker 5: Would read them for me and be like, okay, so
Speaker 5: to you know, to get this star, you have to
Speaker 5: collect the seven coins and they're all over here, and
Speaker 5: she would she would be she would be my spock
Speaker 5: and help guide margin the save peach.
Speaker 3: That's really sweet that you would sort of be co
Speaker 3: pilots with that. That's really sweet. Now did you ever
Speaker 3: help her memorize lines or anything like that.
Speaker 4: No, it was a very one sided relationship. And I was.
Speaker 3: I guess, you're the kid, so you get all the
Speaker 3: help and stuff, but okay, so you're not.
Speaker 5: Okay, I would just steal the candy at work.
Speaker 4: So definitely one sided.
Speaker 2: Hey, right, did you get into you know, after n
Speaker 2: sixty four? Did you kind of continue on to like
Speaker 2: get into PlayStation or stuff after that, Okay.
Speaker 4: Everything, man, I still do. I am the biggest loser
Speaker 4: I went.
Speaker 5: I went from arguably the jump from Nintendo sixty four
Speaker 5: to the GameCube. The Nintendo GameCube was probably the most
Speaker 5: insane in terms of like graphical fidelity. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 5: got the PlayStation too, and I have all of it.
Speaker 5: It's a it's a I guess it's a hobby. My
Speaker 5: wife tries to convince me that, like, no, you have
Speaker 5: interests and that's and that's okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Did you ever get into like the guitar
Speaker 2: Hero type games or where you like, I play real guitar.
Speaker 2: This is like I'm above this.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: I loved Guitar Hero. There was you know, it's funny.
Speaker 5: We actually we did van Halen Guitar Hero. It was
Speaker 5: it was a really quick thing. Like it like it
Speaker 5: was a very weird thing how it happened and it
Speaker 5: ended up not becoming what it could have been.
Speaker 4: But it was a fun thing to help see what
Speaker 4: goes into making that.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I I remember, h yeah, that was. That
Speaker 5: was a thing you would do back in the day,
Speaker 5: like have parties and people would just yeah, because it
Speaker 5: was like part karaoke.
Speaker 4: At the same time and people would just sing along.
Speaker 5: And then there was that south Park episode about it
Speaker 5: that was like really hilarious and yeah.
Speaker 2: But do you do you think like even the hardest
Speaker 2: song to play in guitar hero right, let's say the
Speaker 2: most technical? Do you think I mean, is it anything
Speaker 2: like like playing like eruption or something on like an
Speaker 2: actual guitar.
Speaker 6: Not at all.
Speaker 5: It's very much just like a it's similar I guess dexterity,
Speaker 5: but like in terms of like moving up and down
Speaker 5: a guitar neck, it's you're just kind of yeah, it's
Speaker 5: like dance dance revolution with your fingers.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But what you say, because I can play pretty well
Speaker 3: at the very beginner level of guitar here that I'm
Speaker 3: sort of like.
Speaker 4: Grow or what an incredibly professional guitar player. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: I I also remember we had a friend when I
Speaker 3: lived in Chicago and was like on an improv team.
Speaker 3: We had a friend who had like all the instruments,
Speaker 3: and we would go did you have all the instruments?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, there was a like there was a drum
Speaker 1: set and there was.
Speaker 4: A rock rock band where they.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm thinking of Okay, I'm thinking of rock.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about.
Speaker 4: Different where people could then it really was karaoke. You
Speaker 4: could say you.
Speaker 3: Could sing too, And I remember sometimes like the singing
Speaker 3: felt very like random, Like sometimes I'd get a really
Speaker 3: bad score and I'd be like, this is actually just
Speaker 3: the game being rude to me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're just judging me for because you're tech it's terrible,
Speaker 5: not because I'm a bad singer.
Speaker 3: I might be doing something interesting with my voice that
Speaker 3: doesn't fit into your little game and that doesn't make me.
Speaker 1: That's probably get or whatever.
Speaker 4: It expoints me nothing when I'm giving you gold.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's true. Yeah yeah. Me and Vanessa also
Speaker 2: growing up, had a Sega Genesis and we had this
Speaker 2: Motley Cruise theen pinball game called yes Crewball Yeah, and
Speaker 2: it's if you can find it. Had it would have
Speaker 2: like MIDI versions of like Home Sweet Home and stuff,
Speaker 2: which is incredible. It was a.
Speaker 1: Cool It was a cool It was a pretty cool game.
Speaker 5: Only pinball machine I had was. I guess this is
Speaker 5: semi relevant after this new trailer came out. But my
Speaker 5: dad wrote a couple of songs for a Twister. You
Speaker 5: remember Twister the movie the film, of course, the old movie.
Speaker 5: And they made a twister pinball machine and that song
Speaker 5: Dad wrote Humans Being was like in a midy four,
Speaker 5: I'm playing throughout it.
Speaker 4: Whoa up in the attic? It was, it's a really
Speaker 4: cool machine. But I just remember playing that old time.
Speaker 2: Oh that's amazing, Oh my gosh. Well, yeah, I got
Speaker 2: a couple fun facts about the Nintendo sixty four. It
Speaker 2: went through a few name changes. It was almost it
Speaker 2: was almost called Nintendo Ultra sixty four. A lot of
Speaker 2: celebrities want it when it came out, such as Steven Spielberg,
Speaker 2: Matthew Perry, and a few of the Chicago Bulls. They
Speaker 2: raised it in a bunch of different colors.
Speaker 5: I guess, oh yeah, yeah. It was like clear, the
Speaker 5: clear plastic. They need to bring that back, will Yeah
Speaker 5: that was that'd be cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I had a clear phone when I was And
Speaker 2: the final and sixty four cartridge ever made was Tony
Speaker 2: Hawk pro Skater.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's ok. Yeah, what a Swan song. That's a
Speaker 4: good one to go out there.
Speaker 2: I know that is a good one. Yeah, but uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess there's a it was, Yeah, unlike its predecessors,
Speaker 2: it's not really collectible. You can get for about two
Speaker 2: hundred bucks. You can get one one hundred two hundred bucks.
Speaker 2: So yeah, some of these video game stuff, I know,
Speaker 2: it can be very collected.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the the the reused like video game collector market
Speaker 5: is ridiculous right now. Yeah, that's why people a lot
Speaker 5: of people turn to like emulation and stuff like that,
Speaker 5: although that's kind of been a legal gray area, but
Speaker 5: uh yeah, it's it's tough. Like physical media is starting
Speaker 5: to become a real big issue nowadays. Not to get serious,
Speaker 5: but like it's just like, yeah, with streaming and all that,
Speaker 5: it's like I want to have my stuff and I
Speaker 5: can't have it if it's right right right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's yeah, and it's so collectible and the
Speaker 2: same with you know, it's funny because I read a
Speaker 2: lot about collecting guitars and I it's like so funny
Speaker 2: to me because someone will post a photo of a
Speaker 2: guitar and someone will be like that, like pick up
Speaker 2: is the wrong color.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like people are so I just want to like
Speaker 2: basically just say what's wrong with it? Like you'll see
Speaker 2: some of the most beautiful thing ever and someone will
Speaker 2: find something might be though, Yeah, that might it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's true.
Speaker 5: Like you could you could, you could, you could watch
Speaker 5: a video of a of a like a national geographic
Speaker 5: video of a porcupine, you know, like pooping, and then
Speaker 5: there's like racial slurs in the comments.
Speaker 3: Right right, right right, Yeah, people are absolutely garbage. Now
Speaker 3: I'm curious now that we are in the Internet age
Speaker 3: and you're an adult, does your mom, I'm a huge
Speaker 3: fan of your mom's, does she ever play video games
Speaker 3: with you?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 3: She I mean, there's less of a need for somebody
Speaker 3: to be you know, using the physical guide, et cetera.
Speaker 3: But does she ever like, oh you should you should
Speaker 3: have done that, you know, while you're playing.
Speaker 5: Have like like a VR setup, you know where you
Speaker 5: can yeah, oh cool.
Speaker 4: And I like to be like, hey.
Speaker 5: I try this game out, and I put her in
Speaker 5: like a really terrifying horror game where like zombies and
Speaker 5: I remember, uh, I think we posted it was a
Speaker 5: couple of years ago, but she legitimately screamed it was
Speaker 5: it was pretty anything other than than trying to mess
Speaker 5: with her.
Speaker 3: Not really okay, okay, so not not in not in
Speaker 3: a super serious way. Now, when you were growing up,
Speaker 3: were you fans of any of her shows or were
Speaker 3: you just like sorry, I know we were talking about
Speaker 3: Inn ten to sixty four, but or were you just
Speaker 3: like more like, this is my mom, she's gonna help
Speaker 3: me with video games, and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean kind of like I maybe I guess
Speaker 5: the I think more recently, Yeah, I've had a lot
Speaker 5: more fun. I think growing up, it was always just
Speaker 5: like I don't want to I want to go home.
Speaker 4: I don't I want to.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to, you know, I don't want to
Speaker 5: sit here and have to have to be quiet seriously
Speaker 5: on set.
Speaker 4: I need to be right. I went as a child,
Speaker 4: I can't do that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and H But nowadays, yeah, like going on her
Speaker 5: on her cooking shell and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: We're always always a really good time.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 3: It's funny that you had to be really quiet at
Speaker 3: one of your parents' jobs and you could be really
Speaker 3: loud at the end. H.
Speaker 5: Literally the polar opposite.
Speaker 2: Did you have any of like the handheld kind of
Speaker 2: console it's growing up, like game boy? Or yeah?
Speaker 3: Links or is links? Were you even links? Is pretty
Speaker 3: old story.
Speaker 4: That's that's an old one.
Speaker 5: I never had that, but I did have a game
Speaker 5: and then the game Boy Pocket and then the game
Speaker 5: Boy Color, and then the Game Boy Advance and then
Speaker 5: the Game Boy Advance.
Speaker 4: SP and then the DS like I had. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: I still do. I I'm very proud of my collection.
Speaker 3: Do you prefer those ever to the full? I feel
Speaker 3: like those have gotten so advanced? Are they the newest?
Speaker 3: The Nintendo Switch is much like the culmination of like
Speaker 3: all of like home consoles and portable that, like Nintendo
Speaker 3: kind of merged their markets into one. And as a
Speaker 3: touring musician, it is a wonderful thing to have.
Speaker 1: Oh I bet yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: It's it's so crazy because we're adults now and we
Speaker 3: can just buy Nintendo's for ourselves in a way that
Speaker 3: you couldn't when you were a kid.
Speaker 1: And I was noticing this the other day because I
Speaker 1: was at the.
Speaker 3: Dentist and absolutely stunk like they were polishing my teeth,
Speaker 3: and I was like, this is so uncomfortable. I hate
Speaker 3: this so much, And it's funny, like, as an adult,
Speaker 3: we just have so much freedom to make our own decisions,
Speaker 3: and we can choose to not go to the dentist
Speaker 3: if we don't want to, and to buy Nintendo's, and
Speaker 3: so I guess I like to live.
Speaker 1: I like to do a little bit of both, just
Speaker 1: to keep it balanced.
Speaker 3: But you don't. It's so cool to be an adult.
Speaker 3: You just go like, hey, I have to do my
Speaker 3: six month dentist appointment. How about no? How about no way,
Speaker 3: jose No?
Speaker 5: Like literally, I think I saw like a meme one
Speaker 5: time where it was just like, you know, as an
Speaker 5: adult and you can just do whatever you want. You
Speaker 5: can just give up. You can go to the store
Speaker 5: right now and just like get a giant cake for
Speaker 5: a party of twelve.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and give up. You can just do that
Speaker 4: if you wanted to.
Speaker 1: It's so fun, it's so cool.
Speaker 3: I always forget that I could go buy a huge
Speaker 3: sheet cake for myself.
Speaker 4: Nice to remember that every now and then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, am I going to brush my teeth?
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: No, no, well, you can still brush your teeth right
Speaker 2: like it does.
Speaker 3: Twice today, but maybe tonight I'll say, actually, no, you know,
Speaker 3: it is a nice feeling when you brush your teeth,
Speaker 3: so I guess I probably will.
Speaker 1: Do it, but and kind of known for my smile.
Speaker 1: I'm not a big deal.
Speaker 3: But although when I was at the dentist, sorry, I
Speaker 3: was gang I'm fake cocky a lot. When I was
Speaker 3: at the dentists, they were like, there's all these stains
Speaker 3: on your teeth and I was like what and they
Speaker 3: were like, yeah, when we polish them, we're going to
Speaker 3: use this like kind of abrasive thing to get them off.
Speaker 3: And I was like okay. And then they showed me
Speaker 3: the stains, like the before and after after they polished
Speaker 3: my teeth, and the stains were all on the inside
Speaker 3: of my teeth, like they were behind the front and
Speaker 3: behind like and I was like, I don't give a
Speaker 3: ship if there's stains on the back of my teeth,
Speaker 3: Like who cares? It's like, thanks for thanks for cleaning
Speaker 3: up the stains that no one will ever see.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could have been I could have been going
Speaker 3: to the store and buying a cake during this time,
Speaker 3: but instead of to sit there, they polished the.
Speaker 1: Back of my teeth.
Speaker 3: It's just in nobody cares about the back of people's teeth.
Speaker 1: Sorry. It really was like what.
Speaker 5: What, No, that's not something you think about idea, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's really care about the front of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, anyway, yeah, like I can't even see the
Speaker 3: back of my teeth.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, it yeah. It is interesting how you're you
Speaker 2: are kind of known for your teeth because we have
Speaker 2: the same dentist, same orthanonty scrowing up. No one ever
Speaker 2: comments on my Maybe it's a mustache, but no one
Speaker 2: ever comments on my teeth.
Speaker 1: Oh well, Jonah, it's I think it is your mustache.
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna take a quick break, but we'll
Speaker 2: be right back with Wolfgang van Halen. All right, and
Speaker 2: we are back. So Wolfgang, we're gonna play a quick
Speaker 2: game with you right now. It is called nostalgia or nostalgia.
Speaker 2: In this game, we are going to discuss three nostalgic
Speaker 2: thing from the past that are making a comeback and
Speaker 2: pick which one we are most excited about. Okay, so
Speaker 2: the first one. And we picked this because of you.
Speaker 2: I thought you might be interested in this. There's going
Speaker 2: to be a reboot of the game Crazy Taxi. This
Speaker 2: is a Sega game. They're doing a bunch of reboots.
Speaker 2: I guess. The theme song was by the Offspring. Yeah
Speaker 2: all I want, I know, I want yeh whoa And
Speaker 2: so it first hit the arcades in ninety nine, then
Speaker 2: it was on Dreamcast, PlayStation two GameCube and PC. There's
Speaker 2: a few sequels and spin offs, and the last game
Speaker 2: was in twenty seventeen, Crazy Taxi Tycoon, where you run
Speaker 2: a taxi business. Don't know how that game's going. So well, Okay,
Speaker 2: what do you think about this Crazy Taxi reboot? Is
Speaker 2: this something you're interested in?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? I give that a very very hearty yes.
Speaker 5: Okay, one because it's just a great game, but two
Speaker 5: because it's also my wife's favorite game. She okay of
Speaker 5: Crazy Taxi. So knowing that there's a possibility we'll get more,
Speaker 5: that will be very exciting. Hopefully they don't mess it
Speaker 5: up like a lot of video games nowadays do by
Speaker 5: like turning it into just like a micro transaction riddled
Speaker 5: hell of no game. So I hope they I hope
Speaker 5: they do a good job because because that we we
Speaker 5: all could use driving around to the offspring more.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's nice. Yeah, because it's it's I said, like,
Speaker 2: it's going to be like an uber game, and you're
Speaker 2: like gonna have to like maximize the process.
Speaker 5: I don't know, yeah, uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Vanessa, what do you think about the crazy test?
Speaker 3: I'm all in, I mean, just giving wolf Kings like
Speaker 3: description of it, it like, it sounds great.
Speaker 1: I also like that.
Speaker 3: Somebody suggested, like, let's name it Crazy Taxi, and everyone
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, it feels like it feels like a
Speaker 3: crazy name for a game, but like I, it's fun,
Speaker 3: Like I you know, well, you don't.
Speaker 5: Have the nties where everything was radical and crazy awesome.
Speaker 5: Yeah you totally rad, dude, you know, yes, Crazy tax
Speaker 5: the bits it's perfect.
Speaker 4: We gotta you probably gotta raise when he came up with.
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, no, you're probably right. So okay. Basically, and
Speaker 2: the premise of the game is is it just like
Speaker 2: to pick people up and get them places as fair
Speaker 2: as possible.
Speaker 5: You pick one of four cool awesome people and you
Speaker 5: drive around as you can picking people up, and if
Speaker 5: you don't, they jump out of.
Speaker 4: Your car mid mid drive. WHOA.
Speaker 3: As an adult, it feels like a sort of a
Speaker 3: stressful game because it feels like work kind of. But
Speaker 3: I guess in the context of a game, it's fun.
Speaker 3: It feels like, especially for someone who loves getting stuff done,
Speaker 3: it feels like very satisfying it.
Speaker 4: But too Yeah, it's it's a it's it's a rush.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well I'm with you, both of you. I
Speaker 2: think this is a fun game. The game I usually
Speaker 2: play in a taxi is I just stare at the
Speaker 2: meter and watch how expensive it is. So that sounds
Speaker 2: way more fun. And that's to do you want to
Speaker 2: get into the next one? Yes?
Speaker 4: I do?
Speaker 3: Okay, So the next one is there's going to be
Speaker 3: a Bewitched reboot. It's that in the works that it's
Speaker 3: so it's a dramatic reboot of the sixties hit Bewitched.
Speaker 3: The writer is also known for The Boys and Daisy
Speaker 3: Jones and The Six and it's described as an hour
Speaker 3: long reimagination of the classic series.
Speaker 1: So do you do, Wilfgang?
Speaker 5: Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with Bewitch? Did you ever watch it?
Speaker 4: Not really? But didn't they already try to reboot it?
Speaker 4: I guess yeah, Will Ferrell.
Speaker 1: Movie with Will Ferrell?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, and that's too hot right like otherwise,
Speaker 3: I guess we would remember it better.
Speaker 1: I feel like I can't remember if it did well.
Speaker 3: We were I mean, we were pretty young when it
Speaker 3: came out, so you were probably really.
Speaker 4: It was I think it was wasn't really two thousands
Speaker 4: or something? Right?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Was it that recent? I guess?
Speaker 5: I guess I think it was to I hate to
Speaker 5: say early two thousands was now twenty years ago.
Speaker 4: I hate to make us all feel old now.
Speaker 3: Right, two thousand and five, so it was like twenty
Speaker 3: it was like nineteen years ago.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: I guess maybe every twenty years they waited like sort
Speaker 3: of forty years, and then every twenty after that they.
Speaker 5: I can't I'm excited for the fifth remake in twenty seventy.
Speaker 4: I think that'll be really right.
Speaker 2: That's the one to wait for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, also, very fast math in your head. I just
Speaker 3: threw that outa I mean, I'm trying.
Speaker 2: To think back.
Speaker 3: That's twenty four forty four. Yeah, give it. Yeah, that
Speaker 3: was really good math. Yeah, so you're so but you
Speaker 3: it sounds like you're.
Speaker 2: Ambivalent.
Speaker 4: I would have said no.
Speaker 5: I think I would have said no, not interesting, maybe
Speaker 5: just because it's just not my uh, here's more more
Speaker 5: nineties for it. Not my bag, baby.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't believe it. Just quoted Austin Powers. I'm
Speaker 5: so sorry, And no, that was cool. I don't know
Speaker 5: because maybe it's just not for me. But when I heard.
Speaker 4: The people, dude from the Boys was doing it. The
Speaker 4: Boys is really good, so maybe they'll they'll they'll mix
Speaker 4: it up and make it ironic or I don't know
Speaker 4: it for something really cool. Who knows?
Speaker 2: Wolfgang, how would you feel about an Austin Power's reboot that?
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know how I feel about like things
Speaker 4: that are awesome, because if they were so awesome, why
Speaker 4: try to know, Let's do a new thing. Let's keep awesome,
Speaker 4: figure out something.
Speaker 2: New, you know, I know, I know. Did you see
Speaker 2: that last Bill and Ted's movie?
Speaker 4: I did not.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good.
Speaker 4: I think it's actually the middle of the pandemic and stuff,
Speaker 4: wasn't it. Yeah, Preston didn't want to go and see anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty good. It's it's pretty good. But it's tough.
Speaker 2: It's tough to reboot that classic stuff. It's it's it
Speaker 2: can Yeah, it's a hit or miss.
Speaker 4: Be very careful with it and that's yeah.
Speaker 1: Joana, how do you feel about it Bewitched?
Speaker 5: Ye?
Speaker 2: Kind of similar to Wolfgang. I mean, I feel like
Speaker 2: we watched the show growing up, just because you know,
Speaker 2: we didn't have a lot of options. I haven't seen
Speaker 2: the film. Sounds like a great cast, so I would
Speaker 2: check that out. But for the show, yeah, I guess
Speaker 2: if they if they have good production and stuff, it
Speaker 2: could be an interesting idea.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: I think it's actually supposed to be more of a drama.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: The original show is comedy, so it's kind of like
Speaker 2: what they do with The Fresh Prince of bel Air.
Speaker 2: They kind of made a kind of dramatization. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: I don't know, it could be could be really interesting.
Speaker 2: I would probably check out a couple episodes. Hey, I
Speaker 2: watched some of the new Quantum Leaf, I watched some
Speaker 2: of the new Fraser. I mean, I'll check it out.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I want to be positive for for anything obviously, sure, yeah,
Speaker 5: from preference alone, or and maybe just to balance these
Speaker 5: questions out, I'll throw a no. Yeah, but I hope
Speaker 5: all the best.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I feel like you've.
Speaker 3: Both been very gentle and positive about it, and it's
Speaker 3: okay if it's not your thing, I will say, you know,
Speaker 3: I think it's.
Speaker 1: Groovy baby, that it's maybe.
Speaker 3: Going to come back because yours, your awesome powers, is
Speaker 3: better than it's groovy.
Speaker 1: It's groovy, baby, baby.
Speaker 4: That was at Australian mine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always go Australian when I try and be British.
Speaker 3: These days, these days, these days of exciting. I bet
Speaker 3: I watched it more than both of you did because
Speaker 3: I liked it, and I also liked I dream of
Speaker 3: Genie a lot so and sometimes I get them confused,
Speaker 3: even though they have very different.
Speaker 4: Very clear I could see that. I can see that, but.
Speaker 3: They were always on around the same time. And I
Speaker 3: feel like, you know, let's see. But to your point,
Speaker 3: like it is hard with reboots because you just you
Speaker 3: just don't know what you don't know what's going to happen.
Speaker 3: And I feel like, this is a show that is
Speaker 3: loved by a lot of people, and you know, if
Speaker 3: you're going to do it, you got to do it right.
Speaker 5: So if you don't do it right, your career is
Speaker 5: over and your life isap.
Speaker 3: That's right, because yeah, once a reboot doesn't work in Hollywood,
Speaker 3: they never try it again.
Speaker 2: Well, our last one here, this one actually it's kind
Speaker 2: of related to our dad a little bits from Parade
Speaker 2: dot Com, Wendy's is bringing back one of their fan favorites.
Speaker 2: The Crispy panco Fish sandwich is coming back this week.
Speaker 2: In nursing blog posts, Wendy said that the sandwich has
Speaker 2: earned a strong dedicated fan base over the years, so
Speaker 2: they're bringing it back. It's a wild caught Alaska pollock filet.
Speaker 2: I can't believe they're using wildcough fish. It seems way
Speaker 2: too expensive. But coated and breading with lettuce, American cheese, pickles,
Speaker 2: and tartar sauce on a bun. Blah blah blah. There's
Speaker 2: some quotes from their global vice president of culinary Innovation
Speaker 2: says it's customizable in pairs with the Cott and Crispy
Speaker 2: garlic fries. And one more thing to add, Yeah, this
Speaker 2: is the thing our dad is going to freak out about.
Speaker 5: I have a great attachment to my dad with filet
Speaker 5: of sandwiches as well.
Speaker 4: I'll explain it.
Speaker 2: Okay, amazing our dad's connect there. So just just to
Speaker 2: give you some context, Wolfkame, we talked about this before.
Speaker 2: Our dad bought this pass to Wendy's where you get
Speaker 2: a free frosty every time you go, like a small
Speaker 2: frost like a minie, like a mini one, but they
Speaker 2: never have the regular ones. They just have vanilla and
Speaker 2: these flavors, and he like doesn't like the flavors. And
Speaker 2: I think this thing was like five dollars and he
Speaker 2: gets like unlimited frosty so it's a good year.
Speaker 3: It's really good year. I think it went up from
Speaker 3: two dollars to three dollars. But in this, in this
Speaker 3: fish Sandwich announcement, they also said that they'll be bringing
Speaker 3: back a new frosty flavor and in March called Orange Dreamsicle,
Speaker 3: which I know our dad is gonna hate.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be so mad.
Speaker 2: We only do the chocolate. That's that's only the chocolate.
Speaker 2: He's into the chocolate, doesn't like the flavors. But I
Speaker 2: feel like Orange Dreamsicle is like way too out there.
Speaker 3: Wait, Johanna, I was just talking to him about this.
Speaker 3: I think he he doesn't like the chocolate. I think
Speaker 3: he Wait, I think he only likes the vanilla. And
Speaker 3: they keep the chocolate because that's the classic, and then
Speaker 3: they change the other flavor. So he has his choices
Speaker 3: are chocolate, which he's not really a fan of, or
Speaker 3: whatever flavor. If you if you think he is going
Speaker 3: to be a fan of orange, you're wrong. Yeah, he's
Speaker 3: going to be so fucking pissed about this. He was
Speaker 3: so mad when it was strawberry. He was like this,
Speaker 3: like you could like we heard it, We've heard about
Speaker 3: it so much and Honestly, he's not going to be
Speaker 3: alone in thinking that an orange frosty is disgusting. I
Speaker 3: for one, will say, Okay, I'm gonna anyway. I'll let
Speaker 3: you get through this, and we should. We'll ask you first, Wolfgang,
Speaker 3: what you think that.
Speaker 4: Or the orange frosty.
Speaker 2: It's about the filet of fish. But if you have
Speaker 2: any this frosty is like almost like just on top
Speaker 2: of it. If we kind of can be both.
Speaker 3: They're releasing them sort of at the same time, like
Speaker 3: the same announcement to bring them both out. And honestly,
Speaker 3: if even if people are excited for this fish sandwich, they're.
Speaker 1: Going to be pissed. But go ahead, what do you
Speaker 1: think about the pigeons?
Speaker 4: Have to say?
Speaker 5: No, I don't think I want fish from a fast
Speaker 5: food restaurant just in general. That's so that's just going
Speaker 5: to be a no. But I know my dad was
Speaker 5: all about the filet of fish and McDonald's because his
Speaker 5: secret was nobody ever orders it, so when you get it,
Speaker 5: it's fresh.
Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting exactly.
Speaker 5: That's what my dad always say, is like I get
Speaker 5: the filet fish because nobody, nobody orders it, and so
Speaker 5: it's always fresh. Every time, So I guess for you
Speaker 5: filet of fish has Oh, you probably already know that already.
Speaker 5: That's probably secret everybody else, and I'm unveiling it.
Speaker 2: I guess, so you wouldn't You wouldn't order this. It
Speaker 2: says it's wild caught fish, which to me sounds pretty legit,
Speaker 2: but I don't know it alsos Wendy's.
Speaker 4: I don't trust you.
Speaker 2: I don't trust me.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: Your dad was also onto another thing, which is that
Speaker 3: if you order something that no one else is going
Speaker 3: to order, you don't have to share it. You can go, hey,
Speaker 3: does anyone want to bite of my awe a fish sandwich?
Speaker 3: And everyone will go no, I'm going to eat my burgert.
Speaker 3: That's why I like black licorice. I trained myself to
Speaker 3: like black licorice and Good and Plenty because I can go, oh,
Speaker 3: I have this whole pack of Good.
Speaker 1: And Plenty, Does anyone want some?
Speaker 3: And I look real generous, and then everyone's like no,
Speaker 3: that's disgusting, and I'm like, suit yourself, morons, And then
Speaker 3: I eat the whole box by myself and get very sick.
Speaker 4: But I can do it incredibly generous and wonderful at
Speaker 4: the same time. And that's it matters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so you're not but you're not a fan,
Speaker 1: and I understand that wanting to have.
Speaker 4: I would be more willing to try the orange Frosty Dreamsicle.
Speaker 1: Orange Dreamsicle Frosty.
Speaker 4: I'd be more willing to try that.
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, yeah, you're in California. Maybe a hot day, right.
Speaker 4: Like you want to have some cold orange oranges?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Vanessa, what do you think?
Speaker 3: Well, but just to go back to the orange Dreamsicle.
Speaker 3: It kind of reminds me remember those Flintstones push ups
Speaker 3: that were orange. Surbert, Yes, you were really into those, Jonah,
Speaker 3: yeah you're Yeah. See how for people who like the
Speaker 3: it's just I think the problem isn't the Frosty itself.
Speaker 3: I think it's someone expecting a classic flavor and then
Speaker 3: being presented with orange, they probably go, you know, and
Speaker 3: in our dad's case, you should probably go, Yeah, I'll
Speaker 3: take it because I've paid three dollars to get free
Speaker 3: Frosty's for the entire year, so I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 3: And by the way, he signed up in January this
Speaker 3: year instead of February, so he gets them for the
Speaker 3: full year.
Speaker 4: Incredible.
Speaker 1: Anyway, the point is the fish sandwich from Wendy's.
Speaker 3: I you know, I guess i'd try it because it's
Speaker 3: also breaded and tanko, which is kind of healthy, I think,
Speaker 3: So I guess i'd try it. But I hear you,
Speaker 3: you know, it's always a risk with this with the
Speaker 3: fish when you don't know exactly, you know, But I
Speaker 3: mean they say it's wild caught. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm curious. I'm curious about it.
Speaker 3: When Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. When was it caught?
Speaker 3: When was it caught? Well, according to your dad, probably
Speaker 3: it's probably fresh. Because guess what. I don't think people
Speaker 3: have like gotten more into fish sandwiches from fast food
Speaker 3: places over the years, right, Yeah, probably still kind of
Speaker 3: have the same attitude of not for.
Speaker 2: Me, I actually am a fan of fast food fish sandwiches.
Speaker 2: I don't eat them a lot. I don't eat a
Speaker 2: lot of fast food. But I remember in college I
Speaker 2: was hadn't had McDonald's in like years, and I stopped
Speaker 2: and got a fly of fish at a rest stop,
Speaker 2: ate in the car, then went back inside and bought
Speaker 2: another one because I was like, there's it was almost
Speaker 2: like this like addictive quality to it. So I don't
Speaker 2: really eat it because it like kind of scares me.
Speaker 2: You start craving it. Yes, maybe I need to try
Speaker 2: this then, I mean I would try it, but but
Speaker 2: I'm also with Wolfgang. It's like I don't believe. I
Speaker 2: cannot imagine that they're using wildcot fish, even though I
Speaker 2: know that they say it is. I feel like they
Speaker 2: have to be for like seven bucks or whatever it's
Speaker 2: got to be. I don't know. You don't want to
Speaker 2: mess around with fish.
Speaker 5: I guess there's a line between like a bread and
Speaker 5: fish cake. Yeah, maybe maybe that's okay. But like when
Speaker 5: you see like like a a fast food Mexican restaurant
Speaker 5: have like shrimp tacos, like right, yet the shrimp from
Speaker 5: from fast food? Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I watched too many of these like Gordon Ramsey shows
Speaker 2: where he goes in the kitchen everything's like frozen and
Speaker 2: like yeah, it's it's yeah, So I would. I would
Speaker 2: try it if there was nothing else around.
Speaker 4: Okay, you know, you know.
Speaker 5: I'm going on tour and sometimes the only thing you
Speaker 5: can have for a day is that there's one Wendy's
Speaker 5: you know that you're in, Like I.
Speaker 3: Might have to try it, Okay, if you do try it,
Speaker 3: know that it's wild caught and it's breaded in Panco.
Speaker 3: And also the global vice president of Culinary Innovation, John
Speaker 3: Lee noted that it's customizable and pairs nicely with an
Speaker 3: order of hot and crispy garlic fries along with a
Speaker 3: good old fashioned Coca Cola coke beverage.
Speaker 1: Why did they write Coca Coca Cola Coke?
Speaker 4: I love my Coca Cola Coke beverage and.
Speaker 3: You could get in an orange dreams of cold frosty
Speaker 3: with it. You got to try the whole thing and
Speaker 3: let us know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm now going to refer to any soda. I
Speaker 5: have a Coca Cola coke beverage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: So Wolfgang. If you had to pick one of these
Speaker 2: you would want to bring back for nostalgia, would it be?
Speaker 2: And I think I kind of have an idea what
Speaker 2: you're going to pick up? Crazy Taxi, the Bewitched reboot,
Speaker 2: or the fish sandwich from Wendy's.
Speaker 4: I've been given our topic for the day. I'm going
Speaker 4: to have to make it rain on Crazy Taxi for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair, I'm going to go same. I think crazy
Speaker 2: Taxi seems like a fun game. You know, I like
Speaker 2: any game in New York when I'm driving and not
Speaker 2: stuck in traffic. If you know what I mean, Vanessa,
Speaker 2: what about you? What are you picking here?
Speaker 1: I didn't know it. I guess I'd pick I guess
Speaker 1: I'd pick Crazy Taxi too.
Speaker 3: I mean it sounds. I love the name Crazy Taxi.
Speaker 3: When I was really little, my friend Tracy and I
Speaker 3: made this. We tried to sell Nintendo on a game
Speaker 3: that we created called Cool Love Life, and Crazy Taxi
Speaker 3: is sort of a similar really kind of just throwing
Speaker 3: words out there, just kind of a bold name.
Speaker 1: The name alone. I'm like, I want I'm into Crazy Taxi.
Speaker 4: How do you play Cool love Life?
Speaker 2: Great question?
Speaker 1: Think there were different Well, we wrote it so crazy.
Speaker 5: Is it describing the experience of having a cool love
Speaker 5: life or is it like a like a hey, cool,
Speaker 5: like a compliment.
Speaker 3: So this is the late eighties and we play you
Speaker 3: play this character, this girl, and she goes through different levels.
Speaker 3: And this is based on stuff that we wrote that
Speaker 3: we drew with pencil on computer paper and then kind
Speaker 3: of sent in a bunch to Nintendo thinking.
Speaker 1: They'd go, oh okay.
Speaker 3: We were taking the bait and were biting because she
Speaker 3: had heard that one of her friends sent an idea
Speaker 3: to Nintendo and they made the game really.
Speaker 1: Which I'm sure, which I'm sure is true.
Speaker 3: So we we just kind of drew it out, and
Speaker 3: it was like you'd get to different levels and you'd
Speaker 3: get like a boyfriend.
Speaker 1: It feels very like, uh, I don't know, it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like the most.
Speaker 3: It was having like a cool love life, okay, and
Speaker 3: cool love I know exactly what we meant by that,
Speaker 3: And I don't think we had like I don't think
Speaker 3: we knew exactly what we meant by that, but I
Speaker 3: do remember that we took one had I had like
Speaker 3: a collection of different like decorative boxes and stuff, and
Speaker 3: we took one of the boxes and we put a
Speaker 3: ton of change in it. We were going to try
Speaker 3: and send it to Nintendo with the game to kind
Speaker 3: of try and sweeten the deal, like, you know, we
Speaker 3: want you to make this game, but we're also going
Speaker 3: to give you probably like three dollars and fifty cents
Speaker 3: worth of change in case. Yeah, and then our mom
Speaker 3: pointed out that there, you know, she said, don't send
Speaker 3: this change with it. It's you can't send it. And
Speaker 3: also it would have made it so expensive because it
Speaker 3: would have been so heavy. So unfortunately Cool Love Left
Speaker 3: didn't work out. But Wolfgang, thank you so much for
Speaker 3: coming on the podcast.
Speaker 2: Is there anything Yeah, I know you have a lot
Speaker 2: obviously going on with with Mammoth WVH.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can. You can follow me everywhere.
Speaker 5: I'm I guess I'm most active on Instagram at Wolf Vanhlen.
Speaker 5: You can go to Mammoth WVH dot com to check
Speaker 5: out all the tour dates. We always have tour dates
Speaker 5: up there and and stuff like that. And if you
Speaker 5: feel like checking out the essay on twenty six you
Speaker 5: can go to evhgear dot com to.
Speaker 4: Read more about it. But yet, thank you so much
Speaker 4: for having me. This was a great time.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here. This was so fun.
Speaker 2: Yes, thanks so much for coming on, and thanks to
Speaker 2: everyone for listening. And please keep an eye next week's
Speaker 2: episode of How Do We Get Weird, where we will
Speaker 2: discuss more stories from our childhood and cultural touchstones like
Speaker 2: Nintendo sixty four. Thank you again so much, wolf Kaan.
Speaker 2: We really appreciate it.