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Speaker 1: They said we're doing R and V money tour. I said,
Speaker 1: if we're gonna do an army money tour, we don't
Speaker 1: need some R and B money. Yeah, we don't need
Speaker 1: some expensive individuals.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They look expensive, to sound expensive and got expensive catalogs.
Speaker 1: So sitting right here with us right now, you know,
Speaker 1: let's lady ladies, first, let's let's start with the elegance
Speaker 1: some of you.
Speaker 3: You know, it's just.
Speaker 1: It starts right here with the expensive carryson up the.
Speaker 3: Y I'm back.
Speaker 1: And then and then you know, we gotta we gotta
Speaker 1: guy be here man an elder uh lemmarate himself.
Speaker 3: I'mmarade himself.
Speaker 2: He does get emotional, Sir Carl.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yes, as y'all man, man, y'all so
Speaker 4: much read What made you come up with this idea?
Speaker 1: I mean, we uh, we need the tour. The album
Speaker 1: needed a tour, The movement needed a tour, you know,
Speaker 1: for for us R and B money is it's a
Speaker 1: call out to everybody, you know what I mean, that
Speaker 1: everybody that will and are able to assume the responsibility
Speaker 1: of making sure the R and B that we do,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, rises back to the top
Speaker 1: and carries on. So this call out to you guys
Speaker 1: was necessary because you know, we've all been holding this
Speaker 1: fort down for quite some time, and now.
Speaker 2: We get an opportunity to do it together.
Speaker 3: I just asked you because it's just.
Speaker 4: I just kind of always admired, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: you being able to have vision.
Speaker 3: You know, I watch.
Speaker 4: I watch more than I say, you know, and one
Speaker 4: thing that I'm anybody that knows me knows that I'm
Speaker 4: a fan of the rap act. Always been a fan
Speaker 4: of the what they call the gentleman music, you know,
Speaker 4: And so studying Frank Sinatra, he created opportunity. You'll find
Speaker 4: that out very much like Red Fox created opportunities for
Speaker 4: his comrades and for other people in the genre. And
Speaker 4: I just thought I was really unique. And we, you know,
Speaker 4: are not without that because we have definitely you know,
Speaker 4: we definitely have our R and B officers, shall we
Speaker 4: say that, do that for us man? You know, Keith Sweat,
Speaker 4: you know, just one of those cats. And you know
Speaker 4: it's just a few others that that that you and
Speaker 4: I and Carrie I love to work with down through
Speaker 4: the years. And I just just you know, when you
Speaker 4: called me, the first thing I said to myself, because
Speaker 4: you know, the right brain is always talking to the
Speaker 4: left side.
Speaker 5: So when you called me about this tour, the first
Speaker 5: thing I said was, Wow, this dude really has visions.
Speaker 5: Because we needed something to remind people how important what
Speaker 5: we do with.
Speaker 2: Yes it is. I mean, we just you know, you've
Speaker 2: been on the Army Mighty podcast.
Speaker 1: You all your stories are I just sit here and
Speaker 1: but I think you know, no, no, you will not.
Speaker 1: I think we needed you know, as the men you
Speaker 1: know we are, we are the brawn, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But the ladies needed real representation, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And they needed it to have some class,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and the beauty to go along.
Speaker 1: So this is she makes us look good. This is
Speaker 1: what they says.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't letting it happen. Come on, come on, dag
Speaker 2: out as Jay saying, you know you gotta take carry right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the post we do.
Speaker 4: What do you mean you mean?
Speaker 2: All right? Because too many of y'all.
Speaker 3: To many of y'all.
Speaker 6: No, I'm happy. I'm honored. I'm really honored. I feel
Speaker 6: like some of me just want anything. We're gonna have
Speaker 6: fun every night, and I feel I feel like, well,
Speaker 6: I know fans are gonna be recepted and they're gonna
Speaker 6: feel that. They're gonna know we're friends, we're family, We're fans.
Speaker 4: Of each other, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be out there in front of the house
Speaker 6: a lot of nights fanning the hell out.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know.
Speaker 6: What I mean as a fan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 6: I had to think that world.
Speaker 3: But I think it's going to be really fine.
Speaker 4: Is that people, a lot of fans get an opportunity
Speaker 4: to see exactly how vocally skilled you are. They don't
Speaker 4: A lot of people are are a lot of people
Speaker 4: lean more towards they hit records, and sometimes those records,
Speaker 4: the records, they don't yeah, yeah, they don't reflect what
Speaker 4: you're really capable of doing.
Speaker 1: So we were just singing here just now and Mike City,
Speaker 1: who was our brother, he was like, carry got that.
Speaker 5: I said, yeah, Carr, there's a lot of people you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, really don't know.
Speaker 4: But they get to see it every night though, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you see the modest.
Speaker 3: We've been. We've been in the trade together already.
Speaker 2: See the models, because you came out before all. But
Speaker 2: I say that back, Jay came out before all of us.
Speaker 1: But I remember being I remember being young, just getting
Speaker 1: side and I remember going to somewhere in New York
Speaker 1: and I remember you walking just kind of working the room.
Speaker 2: And somebody tapped me and that's.
Speaker 1: Was it, Okra, Mic No, No, it was some type
Speaker 1: of event, you know, like a convention or something like that,
Speaker 1: and they would just kind of make you know, working
Speaker 1: through the rounds.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So you know, my question is you've been touring for
Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah, my first tour was in ninety seven,
Speaker 1: but I was with somebody. You've been touring as yourself.
Speaker 1: What do you think the difference is between you know,
Speaker 1: that time of touring and what you've experienced in the
Speaker 1: recent years of touring.
Speaker 4: Well, the I'd say the thing that stands out the
Speaker 4: most of me is that his social media algorithms are
Speaker 4: somewhat you know, spilled out onto the state and you
Speaker 4: can kind of see reflections of that, uh with how
Speaker 4: the rappers go through their catalogs. You know, it used
Speaker 4: to be, you know that you could get at least
Speaker 4: two and a half minutes of a record, but now
Speaker 4: you're getting forty five seconds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no of it.
Speaker 4: So I think that that that, you know, that's really
Speaker 4: that that's something that just kind of stuck out for me.
Speaker 1: So as a fan here because I'm going to be
Speaker 1: there as purely as a fan.
Speaker 2: Well, now listen, this does this, this.
Speaker 4: Whole Jay just comes with take and he gonna say, Nope.
Speaker 2: You niggas gotta pay me.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to be there as a fan.
Speaker 1: So as a fan, I want to make sure that
Speaker 1: all three of y'all are gonna sing the whole damn song. Okay,
Speaker 1: whole damn Soul, whole damn song.
Speaker 3: All three and damn song all half records that we.
Speaker 4: Cannot escape when you when you said that.
Speaker 2: I'm one of those guys.
Speaker 3: Man, when you thought that, it made me.
Speaker 1: It made me think about my set list and how
Speaker 1: I do my songs and you and I'm really listening,
Speaker 1: I'm really pointing out, Okay, I do I do bridge
Speaker 1: hookout and then I do I do first hook vamp like,
Speaker 1: and I've made the adjustment. I only made that adjustment.
Speaker 1: As as the social attention span, has it.
Speaker 6: Has affected, it definitely hasn't. And it's probably not something
Speaker 6: we ever ever even thought about doing. We've all had it.
Speaker 6: We've just been it's evolved. Like do I only really
Speaker 6: do forty five seconds now?
Speaker 3: Mind you?
Speaker 4: When you have a catalog like the Isley Brothers, of
Speaker 4: course you can only fit for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I think the Jay's point though, it's like, I
Speaker 1: think we're getting ready to go into a space where
Speaker 1: our fans who are in very seasons bands right and
Speaker 1: and have had really real experiences with our songs.
Speaker 2: Every word from.
Speaker 1: Mean something because I mean I think for me too,
Speaker 1: I've as we went on the road and as you've toured,
Speaker 1: and I always walk.
Speaker 3: Around the venue.
Speaker 1: I'm always and I just people watch. You know that
Speaker 1: about people watch and I get to hear people talking about, oh,
Speaker 1: I wish he would have I wish he would have
Speaker 1: wish he like, damn they didn't go to this part,
Speaker 1: and the fan really want to see that. They really
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I get it. You
Speaker 1: know that over the years, now it's these you know
Speaker 1: shows with ensemble cast it's ten artists. If it's ten artists,
Speaker 1: I get it, it's three of y'all.
Speaker 3: Though, I want you to play the song.
Speaker 6: What's funny is.
Speaker 3: The crowd let me? Yeah.
Speaker 6: I had already planned to do that. I said this
Speaker 6: this tour, I want to do some of the slower
Speaker 6: records that I never really get to get off, some
Speaker 6: of the vocal records that I never get to get
Speaker 6: off and play. I'm doing the second verses of stuff
Speaker 6: I probably never saw. I might not even remember the
Speaker 6: second version.
Speaker 4: That surprised at those songs on your projects that think
Speaker 4: the least of them.
Speaker 6: They're waiting to say it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, some of wear up my idea that people
Speaker 7: actually like, hey, now you know what I mean, that
Speaker 7: they actually like that record, you know, in a performance setting,
Speaker 7: until I actually get it at a wedding.
Speaker 4: And then I had an opportunity to see the response
Speaker 4: from it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll go to YouTube and check the views on
Speaker 1: the audios of all of all of the album songs
Speaker 1: and just and see there's one of them. Because we
Speaker 1: had a record working with me that we had no
Speaker 1: idea that was jumping in everyone's bedroom and strip club.
Speaker 1: We had no not say, no idea, no idea. The instrument,
Speaker 1: the guitar came on and all of a sudden, I
Speaker 1: love that record.
Speaker 6: I love that record.
Speaker 2: Didn't do it.
Speaker 4: I wished, I wish came out and was an absolute
Speaker 4: smashed for four weeks and.
Speaker 3: I knew nothing about what was going on at all.
Speaker 3: I knew nothing about it at all. Well at the time.
Speaker 8: At the time, we were on the European leg of
Speaker 8: the No Way Out tour, the European the European leg, Yeah,
Speaker 8: and I didn't know if.
Speaker 4: I didn't know if, but it's a real tour of
Speaker 4: their legs.
Speaker 3: I did, but I didn't know.
Speaker 4: I didn't know what was going on in the States,
Speaker 4: and you know, social media wasn't then.
Speaker 3: So they had a gala for Clive Davis. He was
Speaker 3: leaving Arista Records.
Speaker 4: I'm sure y'all remember that he was leaving Arista, and
Speaker 4: they had this big gallop for Clive and they said,
Speaker 4: you guys got to hurry up and get back. You
Speaker 4: got to get there. So instead of going back to
Speaker 4: New York, we flew into la and landing at Lax,
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, all right, So we're driving down Lost.
Speaker 3: You know, we're driving.
Speaker 4: Down and at the time, you know, the street team
Speaker 4: was how you got things done. That's how you got
Speaker 4: things done. And we're riding down and all I seen
Speaker 4: was rolls and rolls and rods of these big orange
Speaker 4: posters and I remember, I'll never forget. They were fire
Speaker 4: orange and it was Carl Thomas. I wes Carl Thomas,
Speaker 4: I wis. I ran out And from the time that
Speaker 4: I landed at the airport to the time we made
Speaker 4: it to the hotel, I think I've heard the song
Speaker 4: maybe six times between two radio stations, and I think
Speaker 4: that I think that that's when it kind of sunk in.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I'm hot.
Speaker 3: It's a different situation.
Speaker 2: Than he is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I'm telling you, man, I felt like I'm
Speaker 4: telling you.
Speaker 3: I felt like Stony Jackson, Jill you.
Speaker 4: I felt like Stony. I like that it's different when
Speaker 4: you when y'all like stony, I mean Jay.
Speaker 1: As a as a as a manager and a facilitator
Speaker 1: of all things behind scenes and in front of the scenes,
Speaker 1: speak to some of the tech, the technical things that
Speaker 1: go into putting something like this together. Oh well, I
Speaker 1: think it's the part that people don't see is just
Speaker 1: the negotiation of it, of everything, of everything. Like people
Speaker 1: think that you just go on tour and you just
Speaker 1: show up and people gonna be there and oh, y'all
Speaker 1: got records, But it's like, no, you don't understand. They're
Speaker 1: tech writers. There are you know. It's the staff. It's
Speaker 1: you know, making sure that you have everything in place
Speaker 1: and that you guys can do your job, because y'all
Speaker 1: shouldn't have to deal with oh they said they don't
Speaker 1: got it just has to be like, oh no, it's
Speaker 1: there as much as you can, right. And I think
Speaker 1: our situation sometimes is a little different. I even wanna
Speaker 1: say sometimes it is.
Speaker 3: It's a lot.
Speaker 1: Different because you also are a musician, right, so since
Speaker 1: he plays it's really technical, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, so did.
Speaker 4: They have to this and this and they're gonna have
Speaker 4: the right now, And I'm like.
Speaker 1: We've been in situations where we've literally been moving rises.
Speaker 4: Back literally but is it literally like green Book, like
Speaker 4: the movie Green Book, Like they don't have a certain piano,
Speaker 4: like you can't.
Speaker 1: Well he's easier though, you know what I mean, but
Speaker 1: figure it out. But when he says, like the stuff,
Speaker 1: we got it, we'll get into because we're also like,
Speaker 1: we're the guys, it's like, well, how do we make
Speaker 1: it happen? So we get to a venue and the
Speaker 1: people are ten rolls from the front of the stage.
Speaker 1: That's where they start. Me and this guy, we said, hey, guys, listen,
Speaker 1: we'd love to touch the people. And she's like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't have a lot of staff here
Speaker 1: to move this. This is a barrier, but still barrier
Speaker 1: going across the whole arena.
Speaker 2: We said, listen, we.
Speaker 1: Will gather people and we will move it ourselves if
Speaker 1: you will allow us to. And we just start gathering
Speaker 1: people with the promoters and everybody, and we moved the
Speaker 1: still barriers ten rows and we help them put down chairs.
Speaker 1: Because the experience, again, people don't understand, they don't know
Speaker 1: the technical style, like you said, they just know they're
Speaker 1: not having a good time.
Speaker 3: It's just really crazy.
Speaker 6: That's my beef.
Speaker 1: You deal them with different stuff that's you know, a
Speaker 1: sound check that may not be working, or you know,
Speaker 1: somebody forgot the end.
Speaker 4: But the only all the tours that I've ever been on,
Speaker 4: the only ones that work is when you have the
Speaker 4: see a need, feel a need spirit with it, because
Speaker 4: you got to understand it's just like see a need feeling,
Speaker 4: see a need feeling need uh. And it's it's kind
Speaker 4: of like touring is kind of like putting together a
Speaker 4: great band.
Speaker 3: You know, no band that the first thing that there.
Speaker 4: Is that no band is meant to stay together fab
Speaker 4: no matter how much you like them, never stay together fever.
Speaker 4: And just like that, no tour is designed to go
Speaker 4: flawlessly without hiccup.
Speaker 3: And with our challenge, our.
Speaker 4: Responsibility is to make sure that the audience don't know
Speaker 4: that it's.
Speaker 1: Long to be accomplished, that it's all all good good.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Listen, when I first day Jay Maiitan, New Orleans, Listen, Madicans,
Speaker 1: we start, we started, not.
Speaker 6: I was just say I'm hitting oysters before the show.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get fifty on them.
Speaker 3: But that's cool. It's the starting there.
Speaker 4: It's cool be starting there because we just like just
Speaker 4: just looking at the routing and we have a lot
Speaker 4: of great R and B cities.
Speaker 3: Orleans, you know, the birthplace of.
Speaker 4: Jazz, Congo Square, the home of.
Speaker 2: The essence Fast.
Speaker 4: Their love for musicality, Yeah, yeah, yeah, their love for
Speaker 4: rhythmic blues, their love for black music period, just kind
Speaker 4: of you know what I mean, it stands out. Uh,
Speaker 4: it's it's kind of like being in d C performing
Speaker 4: in the Chocolate City, one of the greatest.
Speaker 3: We got two nights. You have two nights in DC. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and we should.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got too from the D n B.
Speaker 3: I know that's special for you.
Speaker 4: Mama coming home, Mama coming home.
Speaker 1: I want to say this man. Of course, big fans
Speaker 1: of you guys. Man, I love I love you guys.
Speaker 1: I love that we're doing this together. I think I think,
Speaker 1: you know, as much as the R and B my
Speaker 1: occur is the overlay of.
Speaker 2: The whole thing.
Speaker 1: I think the the nuance of what we're gonna take on.
Speaker 2: Is see a need feeling it.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be We're gonna be that because
Speaker 1: our communication between us is really dope. And and if
Speaker 1: I need someone will come come to you. Or will
Speaker 1: come to you and if you need something, you come
Speaker 1: to me. You come to me and and that's how
Speaker 1: we're gonna that's how we're gonna kill this team. Man,
Speaker 1: We're gonna kill it together.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'd like this chur to be an example to other
Speaker 4: artists on if you're determined to do it, that you
Speaker 4: can make any situational work and not only make it work,
Speaker 4: but you can thrive. Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1: That is that is that is the objective of this
Speaker 1: whole thing is to drive you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: so that we can have more legs.
Speaker 2: We don't want.
Speaker 4: Leg me personally, I think a Caribbean leg of.
Speaker 1: There's a Carabbean leg, an off sea leg, there's an
Speaker 1: Asian leg.
Speaker 2: You love so.
Speaker 3: Mu Nation, who are you know?
Speaker 1: Partners in this we we we're trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what the overseas.
Speaker 3: Leg because Carlo.
Speaker 2: Just came back from overseas.
Speaker 4: They absolutely love us in Japan. Oh man, you've got
Speaker 4: show train radio stop front now shout out.
Speaker 2: To the leg, the leg.
Speaker 6: We need legs, but we gotta kill it. We gotta
Speaker 6: make sure our fans come out support this one.
Speaker 3: Have some legs, love it.
Speaker 2: I love legs. Yes, leg trying to We need to
Speaker 2: lege your needs, long Legs.
Speaker 1: Bill Needs Yeah, and the Army Money touris on the way.
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Speaker 2: It is Carrie Hilson and it is Carl Thomas.
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