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Speaker 3: Gangs the Chronicles Podcast. I'm with my homeboy, Yeah today,
Speaker 3: you know he. I think it's well established man that
Speaker 3: we older gentlemen we OG's what the youngsters like to
Speaker 3: call ogs, right right, But I like to think that
Speaker 3: we come from the dopest time period of our heyday,
Speaker 3: the nineties, the late ladies, in the early nineties. Don't
Speaker 3: you think that there was probably the dopest times in
Speaker 3: hip hop?
Speaker 4: Them some good years, the years you know, we had
Speaker 4: some real you know, we had some the introduction of
Speaker 4: the street shit and you know, and hip hop was
Speaker 4: kind of universal, you know, you know, we appreciated all
Speaker 4: type of motherfuckers.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You can bang you some West Coast shit, but then
Speaker 4: you still can bang you some motherfucking EPMD or some.
Speaker 3: Ll cool J. Big Daddy came. You feel me. It
Speaker 3: was a good It was a good era. And the
Speaker 3: biggest thing is everybody was a riginal What no more
Speaker 3: m cs and what no more Big Daddy Kynes? You
Speaker 3: know you didn't have you know, right now, you can't
Speaker 3: tell people apart. They sound just alike.
Speaker 4: With an art of storytelling exactly to be you know,
Speaker 4: minished forgotten. We had tales from the hood, so to speak.
Speaker 3: We got it.
Speaker 4: We had a lot of you know, and even to
Speaker 4: not be on some streets ship East Coast homies told
Speaker 4: tales too, you get me.
Speaker 3: But that's how you learned about everybody's community across the.
Speaker 4: Country, whether it was it was you know, ll telling
Speaker 4: stories about you know, I Need Love or Hollace Queen's
Speaker 4: and you know, run DMC telling stories about you know
Speaker 4: they Adidas and ship like that. Concepts and stories and
Speaker 4: ship is what is what kept the ear intrigued. And
Speaker 4: that's what made it a good era, you know, because everybody,
Speaker 4: well we had we had to ship called you know,
Speaker 4: niggas was biting.
Speaker 3: Nobody wanted to bite each other. Yeah, that was like
Speaker 3: a cardinal seeing back then you got a billion niggas
Speaker 3: saying jail right now you feel Yeah, for sure. I
Speaker 3: told y'all is publishing.
Speaker 4: Niggas niggas you know, we had, we had, like I said,
Speaker 4: we had the.
Speaker 3: Niggas made records of don't bite my ship. You get
Speaker 3: me for real. And I don't want nobody to say
Speaker 3: that we out here because ideos some dope youngs are here.
Speaker 3: Oh definitely, you know, some dope kids out here doing anything,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: And in this in this era of of what it's
Speaker 4: called hip hop, you got a few storytellers out there,
Speaker 4: a few you know, uh, a few niggas who done
Speaker 4: been through some situations who ready to tell their stories
Speaker 4: and you know, make good music. Like I said, any
Speaker 4: motherfucker can make a song or raph can you put
Speaker 4: together music in the in the sense of where it's
Speaker 4: considered you know, you're just not making a gang of
Speaker 4: run on sentences together and ship. You telling the story
Speaker 4: taking a nigga to the progress as far as the
Speaker 4: song is concerned. Uh, you know, so I don't think
Speaker 4: that's that's a thought today everybody. I'm just gonna go
Speaker 4: in there and just bust nigga, going for fuck it.
Speaker 4: And I guess that's what they call uh freestyling.
Speaker 3: You know, it's just a It's just a freestyle.
Speaker 4: And I'm not gonna speak or no particular subject or
Speaker 4: tell no story.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna rap.
Speaker 4: Nigga one plus one is fun and fun in the
Speaker 4: sun nigga, their eggs is done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy they're doing it. But you know what, man,
Speaker 3: we had a lot of dope people. Man. It took
Speaker 3: us through journeys to their prospective neighborhoods. Man, one of
Speaker 3: these the guy we got on stage with us tonight, Now,
Speaker 3: he did you know what you did? Put out a
Speaker 3: rap album. So I say you can put out a
Speaker 3: rap album. But you told said I tried that ship.
Speaker 3: You know, you gave everybody a glimpse of what LA
Speaker 3: was like. Right.
Speaker 5: So the thing about the album is that I was
Speaker 5: I did a video with Scarface called the Magine Video,
Speaker 5: and so I was like, damn all the rappers trying
Speaker 5: to be active.
Speaker 1: I said, let me just let me try this ship.
Speaker 3: Plus we got to check out that motherfucker.
Speaker 1: To ship, you know what I did.
Speaker 5: But I also love music and like I sing a
Speaker 5: little bit, so I always loved music. So my boy
Speaker 5: seven aralius. You know, we went out to rap a
Speaker 5: lot and we signed a production production deal together.
Speaker 3: That's dope.
Speaker 1: That's what really, that's how it.
Speaker 3: So you did that with seven and seven wound up.
Speaker 3: That's how old girl from Murder and when she redid
Speaker 3: the Mary Mary Mary and went down there and got
Speaker 3: that shape from them. Boy, he said, y'all using my stuff.
Speaker 5: So what happened was like me and seven used to
Speaker 5: when Seven first started. Seven was a talented producer, but
Speaker 5: he wasn't into flipping lyrics and he didn't know how
Speaker 5: to I knew I know all music.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, say, if.
Speaker 5: You you you you kind of like gospel. You know
Speaker 5: you got that you play the chords grade, But I said,
Speaker 5: think about flipping and like using different melodies and flipping
Speaker 5: the melodies or whatever. So then like I taught him
Speaker 5: out of you know what I'm saying. I taught him
Speaker 5: how to do that. But he was always a talented
Speaker 5: producer and could play. But we kind of we kind
Speaker 5: of matched, you know, matched. He was the first person
Speaker 5: to tell me that I was producing though, because I
Speaker 5: would hear melody or I would do it. He'd be like,
Speaker 5: you know, that's producing, and the other homies wouldn't tell
Speaker 5: me that.
Speaker 3: They was just a definitely they're getting their money man
Speaker 3: shout out at the home. What EP, me and him
Speaker 3: was just talking when you hear stuff like twisters? What's
Speaker 3: twist is big record? He had not overnight celebrity, but
Speaker 3: the other one Slow Jams. My boy EP played every
Speaker 3: every chord that was on that motherfucker though, every court
Speaker 3: that was on that motherfucker. And you know, everybody don't
Speaker 3: get that credit. You know, they get a keyboarders.
Speaker 4: To make sure. Guy used to play for me, Willie Z.
Speaker 4: I used to shot him out on records and ship
Speaker 4: because he was talented. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 4: I didn't want to take credit for motherfucker's playing and
Speaker 4: niggas being gifted with that ship you give me U,
Speaker 4: So I definitely would recognize the musicians who play.
Speaker 3: Sure. You have to you have to man for sure. Man,
Speaker 3: it's so tiring.
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 3: What I was saying was Man be in the nineties,
Speaker 3: Man minutes to society. I always say, it's wonder if
Speaker 3: they had a time capsule for motherfuckers, like a thousand
Speaker 3: years from now, a glimpse of certain time periods. Was
Speaker 3: that would be a movie that I would put in
Speaker 3: that time capsule to say, this is how stuff really
Speaker 3: was kind of in the neighborhood, not everywhere, but in
Speaker 3: the neighborhood. And it told the story of not just
Speaker 3: South central LA, but that's Compton, that's Long Beach, that's Newark,
Speaker 3: New Jersey, that's Brooklyn. You feel what I'm saying is,
Speaker 3: you know, the characters changed a little bit in the
Speaker 3: dress code, change a little bit, but it's the same
Speaker 3: stuff going on. When y'all did that movie This Is
Speaker 3: for You two eight, when y'all did that movie Man
Speaker 3: thirty some years ago. Now did y'all think it would
Speaker 3: have the impact that it has today.
Speaker 4: Don't Tyring could probably you know, address that better because
Speaker 4: he was, you know, an actor and getting into that shit.
Speaker 4: Me was just on some Hey. You know, I didn't
Speaker 4: even think they was gonna call a nigga to be
Speaker 4: in the movie. Uh So, but to think about, you know,
Speaker 4: down the road and history and future, and I just
Speaker 4: saw it, as you know, uh it was a gang
Speaker 4: of movies being made at that time that focused on
Speaker 4: the neighborhoods and poverty and the gang violence and the
Speaker 4: police brutality and all of that shit. So I don't
Speaker 4: know if I saw it going as far you get me,
Speaker 4: because you know, with rapping shit or hip hop whatever,
Speaker 4: we was always kept to a certain you know, we
Speaker 4: was always looked upon as you know, the outside the
Speaker 4: black sheep, and especially if you did the music I
Speaker 4: was doing. You know, you gotta you gotta double, you
Speaker 4: gotta double funny.
Speaker 3: Look, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They already didn't like the fact of the hip hop,
Speaker 4: but then if you did what we was doing, you know,
Speaker 4: talking about the oppression in the streets and the gang
Speaker 4: violence and all of that, they really didn't like a motherfucker.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if.
Speaker 4: I saw it getting as big as it could be
Speaker 4: because of the nature of what it was. Now to us,
Speaker 4: it was gonna be the shit you get me, But
Speaker 4: it's like that crossover shit. You know, you put out
Speaker 4: a record and you aiming for it to be great
Speaker 4: in your sector, but then next thing, you know, that
Speaker 4: motherfucker playing all over in Europe and you can walk
Speaker 4: through the fucking casinos in Vegas and they got it
Speaker 4: in the elevators, and you reach that crossover status. So
Speaker 4: I don't know if I thought it would reach that
Speaker 4: crossover status, Like.
Speaker 3: Definitely, it definitely crossed over. And Tyron, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 3: that was your first major that was your first leading role.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm my first major leading role. So what what
Speaker 5: what should we started? Did I think it was going
Speaker 5: to be successful?
Speaker 3: Oh? Did you even Let's go back to you auditioning
Speaker 3: for the.
Speaker 1: So me auditioned. So I'm at the house.
Speaker 5: I just finished auditioning for Boys in Hood like two
Speaker 5: weeks before then. John Singleton like, are you perfect for
Speaker 5: the part? So I'm thinking this is when I first
Speaker 5: learned about Hollywood. I'm like John single said, I'm perfect.
Speaker 5: I'm like, Okay, cool, I'm gonna be in Boys in
Speaker 5: the Hood. I'm I'm excited. And then when I didn't
Speaker 5: get the part, I'm at the house with uh, with
Speaker 5: my girlfriend at the time in high school, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, rubbing on her and.
Speaker 3: Are you in high school? This time?
Speaker 1: I was in high school a year removed my high school.
Speaker 5: My girlf was still in high school, so she was
Speaker 5: in she was in eleventh twelfth grade. I just graduated,
Speaker 5: and so I'm at the house and all I hear, uh,
Speaker 5: how does the Bible South Central? And I'm like, I
Speaker 5: see it on the juke box. Remember we had jukebox
Speaker 5: back of the day and all that stuff, And I'm like,
Speaker 5: wait a minute, I said, that's the move. I'm hearing
Speaker 5: the lines on the on the TV, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: I just auditioned for that. So and I just I said,
Speaker 5: it's just gonna be crazy. I could just I could
Speaker 5: just tell the energy of it that the movie was
Speaker 5: gonna be huge. So I was kind of like like, damn,
Speaker 5: that was my shot. And then next thing I know,
Speaker 5: like a like a month or two later, like I
Speaker 5: got the call for a minutes my Homeboy, the Rest
Speaker 5: in Peace, Tommy gun he Uh and my homeboy Tylo.
Speaker 5: We drove to the audition with no breaks with Red.
Speaker 5: It was like a bill or something. They had no breaks.
Speaker 5: We had like fire out with the gas. We had
Speaker 5: like five out. When the game we trying to get
Speaker 5: to Hollywood. I didn't call my.
Speaker 1: Hair and I didn't do nothing. I was I was.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, it ain't gonna. It ain't nothing.
Speaker 3: It's just some random That's when you wind up getting
Speaker 3: some ship though most of the time you ain't gonna.
Speaker 3: That's when it pop off.
Speaker 1: So I get there.
Speaker 5: I get there and Alan Hughes is like, man, we've
Speaker 5: been looking for you for years.
Speaker 1: I said, huh. I'm like confused, Like, what did they
Speaker 1: see where they want me?
Speaker 5: So they seen the rhythmation with Janet Jackson, they seen
Speaker 5: they seen me do Michael Jordan's playground. They seen uh,
Speaker 5: and I did just American's Most Wanted where I played
Speaker 5: the blood.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I played the blood.
Speaker 5: And so then they were just like they seen all
Speaker 5: the uh, they seen all those different kind of characters
Speaker 5: and they was like, Okay, well we've seen him in
Speaker 5: uh Janet Jackson rhimation. So we know, he has emotion
Speaker 5: and it was in facial expression that we like. So
Speaker 5: then when I did the play, when I played the Blood,
Speaker 5: they seen I knew how to They knew I knew
Speaker 5: how to do all that.
Speaker 1: So they to them, they said, he's he's the guy.
Speaker 5: He's young because they didn't want to they didn't want
Speaker 5: to say cripple blood in the movie. We needed somebody
Speaker 5: that was just like had the Street the Street, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true because you never knew, they never really
Speaker 3: identified and we didn't we didn't try to. Uh.
Speaker 4: That was one and I guess one of their points.
Speaker 4: I mean, because we had just had uh uh, we
Speaker 4: had colors who you know, was heavy influenced on crip
Speaker 4: and blood, and I'm pretty sure that brought a lot
Speaker 4: of tension to you know, people for exploiting that. So
Speaker 4: wanting to do these neighborhood movies, I guess dudes tried
Speaker 4: to you know, stray away from actually saying you saw
Speaker 4: it in Boys in the Hood too. You knew Cube
Speaker 4: in them was from you know, the crip side, because
Speaker 4: then they had the enemies in Red you get, but
Speaker 4: nobody actually said blood or crip in the movie. So
Speaker 4: that's what we tried to. I guess that's what they
Speaker 4: tried to focus on with Minutes You Get Me, and
Speaker 4: then it wasn't really on and they probably threw a
Speaker 4: little bit in there you get Me putting me in
Speaker 4: the movie. Uh the dudes who shot, you know, tiring
Speaker 4: in them. They was in Burgundy at the Hamburger stand.
Speaker 4: But I get not wanting to, you know, because we
Speaker 4: had enough problems with with cripping in the blood, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and just trying to like really
Speaker 4: just trying to survive in La and Compton. And then
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure, you know, just like the thought of
Speaker 4: doing records. I never wanted to just oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: a crip. I'm a crip. I'm a crip, because I
Speaker 4: wanted blood niggas to buy my records too. So that's
Speaker 4: why I was always just pushing the issue of the
Speaker 4: city and the neighborhood. It don't matter what neighborhood you're from,
Speaker 4: whether you wearing red or blue or purple or whatever,
Speaker 4: it's still problems going on that we all going through
Speaker 4: because we're growing up here. So I guess that was
Speaker 4: that was one of the points of not trying to
Speaker 4: focus you know, too heavy on the cripping and blood
Speaker 4: and shit.
Speaker 3: So you go up there and how soon did they
Speaker 3: let you know you had the part? Because I know
Speaker 3: when I was going on auditions sometimes you may have
Speaker 3: to go. I've been on as many as five auditions
Speaker 3: for the same part.
Speaker 5: They basically told me there they was just like when
Speaker 5: they say were looking for you and the energy, and
Speaker 5: they it wasn't like a a reading or anything.
Speaker 3: Like or it wasn't so they pretty much probably when
Speaker 3: he wrote.
Speaker 1: That part, he was probably had had me in mind.
Speaker 5: And next thing I know, like a week or later,
Speaker 5: I'm at Rosco with my uncle and they like, they
Speaker 5: just go, we want you to play Cane, the lead
Speaker 5: character in Minutes a Society.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just like, I'm just trying.
Speaker 5: I'm like Jesus Christ, okay, you know I'm trying to.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I've been here before in my mind. I'm like,
Speaker 5: calm down or whatever. So to your point, when I
Speaker 5: when I got the film, I did not know it
Speaker 5: was gonna be huge like that. I just thought I
Speaker 5: thought like I believed in me, and I was like,
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a I'm gonna give my all to it.
Speaker 5: But I have no idea that it was going to
Speaker 5: be like that until I went to the screening.
Speaker 3: When it's a hood, it's a certifying classes.
Speaker 5: When I went to the screening of it, when they
Speaker 5: when they first screened it for the audience and I
Speaker 5: was in the I was in the screening and they
Speaker 5: just they were cheering and they were crying and they
Speaker 5: were laughing, and they all those three elements let me
Speaker 5: know that I had we had a hit.
Speaker 1: They did, all.
Speaker 3: Three of them had the premiere eight screen.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you went. I went to the
Speaker 1: screening right before.
Speaker 3: The screen is different than the premiere.
Speaker 5: Right before it was right before all the the real
Speaker 5: it was like the when they have the audience from
Speaker 5: you know, how they have an audience that AI come
Speaker 5: see it, and they was they were They laughed, they cried,
Speaker 5: they start clapping, they were cheering.
Speaker 1: They did everything. I said, Oh ship, I said, I knew,
Speaker 1: I knew.
Speaker 5: And then the way it was, the way it was filmed,
Speaker 5: it wasn't a typical street. It was the way it
Speaker 5: was they focused on the light being red and then green,
Speaker 5: and then the it like took you on a roller coat.
Speaker 5: How how to be in South Central LA trying to
Speaker 5: survive it.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It was like they it
Speaker 1: was directed.
Speaker 5: It wasn't just a bunch of It wasn't just a
Speaker 5: bunch of niggas talking about nigga break yours.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It wasn't like that, Like
Speaker 1: we actually cared.
Speaker 5: It's like even when we're in the car, ate like,
Speaker 5: hey man, you niggas acting like bitches like nigga just nigga,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like we were We were friends.
Speaker 5: It wasn't just like some niggas just go do this
Speaker 5: ship and we had each other back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could tell that y'all had a camaraderie and
Speaker 3: a thing like a played the big homie perfectly. You know,
Speaker 3: he played the big homie perfect because he was telling
Speaker 3: every everybody had a certain reference and respect for him.
Speaker 3: When he said, y'all niggas shut the fuck up. Y'all
Speaker 3: sound like some bitches, and then he say something funny, yeah.
Speaker 5: And then when he had to happen when when when
Speaker 5: we came short, he finished it off like when we
Speaker 5: was running, hey, y'all, you need to help man, Like
Speaker 5: we got it. We don't need no evidence. We don't
Speaker 5: need nobody almost alive. Don't don't dump dump we out
Speaker 5: like the big homie like na, we don't need nobody
Speaker 5: to live.
Speaker 3: Niggas and my homie fine be gonna appreciate this. When
Speaker 3: I hustle, we hustle in front of a Hamburger stand
Speaker 3: that was on Anaheim, just like that, cross the street
Speaker 3: from it on Ohio and Anaheim and a long beach,
Speaker 3: right And when I tell you, without going in too
Speaker 3: much detail, when shit go down, it go down just
Speaker 3: that quick. Oh definitely. So it was a very realistic
Speaker 3: scene that right there was. It was very realistic because
Speaker 3: that's how it happened. You either some work chilling or
Speaker 3: somebody else is just some work chilling and they don't
Speaker 3: have no idea on what's about to happen. Vengeans go
Speaker 3: down that quick in.
Speaker 4: The streets, Oh definitely. Situations arise pretty quickly. You don't
Speaker 4: get too much time to think about it. When they
Speaker 4: get ready to go down, you just react and hopefully
Speaker 4: you've been out there enough that your reaction time is
Speaker 4: good when you know some shit to getting ready to
Speaker 4: go down, because if that's not, then usually that's how
Speaker 4: you get caught slipping and niggas end up dead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was a whole bunch of stuff in
Speaker 3: the movie, man, just the whole When you guys, when
Speaker 3: you initially read that script, right, you didn't have a
Speaker 3: clue that it was gonna be that significant.
Speaker 5: Nah it it read more, it read more Street. But
Speaker 5: when you look at it, it was really educational. Like
Speaker 5: it was very educational, I would like to me, like
Speaker 5: it showed you, like most niggas be living with their
Speaker 5: grandmamas and like that that's really real, Like niggas grandmamast
Speaker 5: really be raising niggas.
Speaker 3: In a lot. It was very realistic, That's what I said.
Speaker 3: It was very realistic. Yeah. They they hit on a
Speaker 3: lot of.
Speaker 4: I think in depth ship about life growing up in
Speaker 4: the projects and and uh, you know, stuck in limbo,
Speaker 4: in in in trying to be accepted by the hood,
Speaker 4: and you know, having their motherfucking grandma, grandpa back values
Speaker 4: to where you want to do good.
Speaker 3: You know, you want to be.
Speaker 4: A straight kid or you know, a straight motherfucker. But
Speaker 4: when you live in in a section where peer pressure
Speaker 4: is everything and belonging is everything, and especially as you know.
Speaker 3: A single kid, you get me. You got no.
Speaker 4: Brothers, no sisters, no cousins, and you know, so influenced
Speaker 4: to become affiliated is heavy.
Speaker 3: And that was the thing about that film. Man. It
Speaker 3: shows you everything because what I got from is you know,
Speaker 3: you would think watching it that people just get a
Speaker 3: lot of street stuff from it, you know, the whole
Speaker 3: gang banging element and all that. I think with people,
Speaker 3: more than anything else got from it, man, is that
Speaker 3: property is a motherfucker dog and when you black and
Speaker 3: growing up without much dog. Because I think the most
Speaker 3: powerful part in the film was when your grandfather asked you, came,
Speaker 3: do you give a fuck if you live or die?
Speaker 3: And you really looked at him like, shit, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get through the day. Right.
Speaker 5: You got to understand growing up in a neighborhood, like
Speaker 5: what is it really for you to do? Actually, if
Speaker 5: you're not entertainment or like, what is it actually to do?
Speaker 5: It ain't nothing to do but to get in some
Speaker 5: kind of trouble because you're trying to get your money.
Speaker 3: Think about this, Think about if this man right at
Speaker 3: the end of the table didn't have storytelling and rapping ability,
Speaker 3: or if you didn't know how to act, what would
Speaker 3: y'all be doing now, you just life life.
Speaker 4: You know, you fortunate to be put in a position
Speaker 4: like you know, I was able to write down your
Speaker 4: tales and stories and shit I saw participated in. But
Speaker 4: before then, shit, like I said, the quest was to
Speaker 4: be from the neighborhood. Shit Like you be a kid
Speaker 4: and you might, oh, yeah, I'm gonna be a fireman,
Speaker 4: or I'm gonna be a policeman or a football or
Speaker 4: sports motherfucker.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: But then when you're living in poverty once again, and shit,
Speaker 4: everybody in the neighborhood is selling dope and gang banging
Speaker 4: and like minutes, try to walk that line, right because
Speaker 4: you're in the neighborhood and you were a kid. As
Speaker 4: a kid, you don't really know what's going on around
Speaker 4: you the world.
Speaker 3: You're a kid.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you're riding your bike down the street
Speaker 4: where two niggas just got killed last night.
Speaker 3: You don't, you don't. You don't focus on that as
Speaker 3: if you and to humanize the characters, right, because even
Speaker 3: Old Dog, as fucked up as Old Dog was, you
Speaker 3: still saw at the end of the day, he was
Speaker 3: just a little kid from the hood that was trying
Speaker 3: to survive and I mean, this is doing what he
Speaker 3: had to do. That's what I'm handed. You get me.
Speaker 3: I'm not educated. You give me. That shit stopped and
Speaker 3: he probably had some mental problems too.
Speaker 4: That shit probably stopped when I was you know, like
Speaker 4: I said, when you four and five and you going
Speaker 4: to school and everything is fun until you face with
Speaker 4: dealing with the reality of nigga. We in poverty like
Speaker 4: a motherfucker, and it starts affecting you and fucking with
Speaker 4: you to where your dreams of being something other than
Speaker 4: what's around you, that shit is gone all whole good.
Speaker 3: It's like, so.
Speaker 4: To be able to you know, do what you do
Speaker 4: or whatever, and to just make it out of the
Speaker 4: situation is in problems for a lot of niggas. And
Speaker 4: that's why you got a lot of niggas from the
Speaker 4: era of my days who you know, got thirty twenty
Speaker 4: five years to life in the pen and you know,
Speaker 4: or just now coming home and you know, all this
Speaker 4: new wave of technology and internet and all this shit.
Speaker 4: But that's why a lot of us, a lot of
Speaker 4: us was faced with that because we didn't have no
Speaker 4: choice back then. You get me, It's a lot of
Speaker 4: choices today for you to stray away from growing up
Speaker 4: in the neighborhood.
Speaker 3: Back then. Shit, it were I.
Speaker 4: Didn't you know, we didn't have too many sports teams
Speaker 4: and niggas didn't have private trainers and camps and all
Speaker 4: that shit, you know, And all I knew about in
Speaker 4: the neighborhood was the niggas who were slanging and who
Speaker 4: got bussed on, you know, last night or whatever whatever.
Speaker 3: I mean. So it's kind of hard to stray away
Speaker 3: from that for real. And you was raised like I
Speaker 3: guess she was made for that part because she was
Speaker 3: raised by your grandmother too, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was, Well, my mom my mom had me
Speaker 5: when she was like thirteen fourteen in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Whatever, So my mom was there.
Speaker 5: She just was a kid as well, so we were
Speaker 5: we were like kids together kind of thing. And my
Speaker 5: grandmother and I have my aunties, so I just, you know,
Speaker 5: I've seen a lot, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 5: understood that I didn't want to be in gangs because
Speaker 5: my uncle played football. He never dranked and never smoke,
Speaker 5: and I just always remembered that like he wanted to
Speaker 5: be something.
Speaker 1: So I was like, well, I gotta I gotta figure
Speaker 1: this out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because she was playing football and stuff too.
Speaker 1: You went to her, Yeah, went to Sarah, you went
Speaker 1: to high school.
Speaker 3: I mean you talked about that you was a defensive
Speaker 3: back man, and yeah, Tying is a physical motherfucker. I
Speaker 3: know you know. We ain't gonna talk like the other people.
Speaker 3: Tyron got some squabbles.
Speaker 5: Man, I wouldn't even say. I just defend myself like
Speaker 5: any other human being. It ain't about who can and
Speaker 5: when you if you're protecting yourself, it's not about having squads.
Speaker 5: It's about like, I don't I don't real I don't
Speaker 5: mess with nobody.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't want no issues. I know how to walk
Speaker 5: away from an issue. I know how to do all
Speaker 5: those things. It's just when I can't. I just want
Speaker 5: to defend myself like any other human being.
Speaker 3: Man. And us as you go win when you don't,
Speaker 3: when you want to, don't start problems. You usually wanted
Speaker 3: to be a victor.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's anybody, anybody. If you if you got started,
Speaker 5: I feel like you should win. If you didn't start,
Speaker 5: start no trouble.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you get this role, man, how quick do
Speaker 3: your life change?
Speaker 1: It was?
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 5: It's it's crazy because I grew up on fifty first
Speaker 5: and Hoover, and where I come from. I just always
Speaker 5: like to just do normal stuff like walk to the liquor.
Speaker 1: Store and do stuff that I was just accustomed to doing.
Speaker 5: I remember going to the liquor store and and it
Speaker 5: was just like the cars start piling up on the
Speaker 5: block or whatever, and I just I was like, Okay,
Speaker 5: this is this is this is a little different. But
Speaker 5: I'm still a little naive because I'm just like that's
Speaker 5: all I know is just how to like I'm not
Speaker 5: I didn't come from Hollywood. I didn't come for where
Speaker 5: my nobody in my family was in Hollywood, so I
Speaker 5: didn't know, like I can't walk down the street no more,
Speaker 5: I can't go to the liquor store do regular stuff,
Speaker 5: like go to the actual liquor store. I was like,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go to the lick store and buy me
Speaker 5: some more fucking policies and stuff you just like regular.
Speaker 3: Shit and pulling up on the side of the road,
Speaker 3: on you.
Speaker 1: Pulling up on the side road, honking.
Speaker 5: But it wasn't just all kind of stuff, no, nothing dangerous,
Speaker 5: but just crowded just like Okay, it's a scene here,
Speaker 5: like the movie was big, big, to where I now,
Speaker 5: I've made a scene in the neighborhood if I'm there,
Speaker 5: that's all.
Speaker 3: When did you realize you had to get about that motherfucker?
Speaker 5: Well, I always I never got out of it. I
Speaker 5: just knew that I had to. It's just the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not like that, but you know, you know you
Speaker 3: have to if you want to have a peace of mind,
Speaker 3: you got to make a move.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you just understand as a time and a place
Speaker 5: like a certain times like Dippy and Dip. It ain't
Speaker 5: about just oh, I can't you over here. That's not
Speaker 5: what it is. It's just about picking and choosing how
Speaker 5: to do it. Like you just can't. I just can't
Speaker 5: go to the to the uh the liquor bank just
Speaker 5: cause I cause I think it's cool to do cause
Speaker 5: you just gotta.
Speaker 1: It's just different cause people will test you. People will
Speaker 1: test you. People will How.
Speaker 3: Often did you get tested you? Especially you playing the
Speaker 3: road that you was playing, you was you know, you
Speaker 3: was a hard body in the movie.
Speaker 5: I got tested a lot in the w L Let
Speaker 5: me just say a lot of people loved us, first
Speaker 5: of all, like the movie, like so as much as
Speaker 5: I got tested it was a billion millions of people
Speaker 5: that didn't test. They loved they was a fan of
Speaker 5: our work and all that kind of stuff. So when
Speaker 5: I did get tested, it was basically more about you
Speaker 5: look a little little in person.
Speaker 4: I mean you and you And then it's usually always
Speaker 4: uh from your own stepping grounds. You know, you get
Speaker 4: appreciated when you go up the places, not that you
Speaker 4: are uh uh intimidating to people, but just for the
Speaker 4: fa that people respect what you do as far as
Speaker 4: making records or acting or whatever. It's like it's something
Speaker 4: about growing up here and growing up in a neighborhood
Speaker 4: that could it's it's it's gonna ride you until niggas
Speaker 4: feel like you ain't a threat anymore to the Then
Speaker 4: it's like, oh man, that nigga, you know whatever.
Speaker 3: Oh that's tiring on you know whatever.
Speaker 4: But like you said, the motherfucker want to test you
Speaker 4: because first of all, you come from the land of
Speaker 4: where you know niggas is about that life of pulling
Speaker 4: the niggas card.
Speaker 3: You get me, so.
Speaker 4: It's always gonna be one you feel me like shit,
Speaker 4: oh nigga, this nigga was hard in the movie, or
Speaker 4: this nigga grew up on so and so and WHOOPI
Speaker 4: won't thing. I remember, I went to go with this
Speaker 4: shit and walked and that's where you get that.
Speaker 3: That's crazy, man.
Speaker 4: So so you you didn't have to do because you
Speaker 4: came from Cleveland.
Speaker 3: So you know what, though, Man, the biggest thing I
Speaker 3: get now is why you don't call I called you
Speaker 3: twenty times while you're not picking up the phone, and
Speaker 3: it's like, dude, you called me at two o'clock in
Speaker 3: the morning or some crazy time at five o'clock in
Speaker 3: the morning. No, I'm not answering my phone. But for
Speaker 3: the most part, it's more love. But this stuff I'm
Speaker 3: not go front. You always have certain people that know
Speaker 3: how to strike a nerve with you. Oh definitely, they
Speaker 3: just want to strike a nerve. You're like, why are
Speaker 3: you coming at me with that silly shit right now?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. But for the most part,
Speaker 3: it's love. Like you said, so you're doing this man.
Speaker 3: That was one of those defining roads man, that where
Speaker 3: usually in Hollywood somebody get that type of part, you know,
Speaker 3: have that type of performance. They turn in that type
Speaker 3: of performance, they wind up just elevating.
Speaker 6: Yeah when they're white.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's what I was gonna. Do you
Speaker 3: feel that us as black people, man, do you think
Speaker 3: Hollywood just kind of give us the short end of
Speaker 3: the stick all the time.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't.
Speaker 5: I would say we give ourselves a short end sometime
Speaker 5: a little bit. Well, we did a we did a
Speaker 5: great film, right, me A Lorenz and Jay We did
Speaker 5: a great film, right, Alan Hughes and Albert Hughes.
Speaker 1: They directed it.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: The phone never rung again for none, none of that chemistry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you think, but.
Speaker 5: But but look at the look look at it like this,
Speaker 5: when you look at Ryan Coogler, that did Fruitville with
Speaker 5: Michael B.
Speaker 1: Jordan, Right, he did, then he.
Speaker 5: Did Creed, then he directed Creed, then he let Michael B.
Speaker 5: Jordan direct Creed, and then he did Black Panther.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: When you think of John Singleton, he tyresse baby boy,
Speaker 5: fast and furious.
Speaker 1: What's the what the the one did with Mark Wallburg?
Speaker 3: Mark Wallburg?
Speaker 1: But the brothers, Yeah, brothers, that's all John Singleton.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: So even with with Spike Lee, I think that with
Speaker 5: us and I'm nobody owes anybody, nothing, nobody, but what
Speaker 5: this man did for minutes with the with the with
Speaker 5: the with that song that I think this describe that
Speaker 5: movie better than any movie I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 5: It was just hand in hand, right, you don't come back,
Speaker 5: and not that they owe anything, but like as a
Speaker 5: as as a filmmaker's you know, you don't come back.
Speaker 1: Oh let's run it back, Jordan running back with sometimes
Speaker 1: you can. It's okay to run.
Speaker 5: Things back, you know what I mean, but to not
Speaker 5: but to not to not run it back and to
Speaker 5: kind of like sometimes people want to cross over and
Speaker 5: they think that the crossing over mean are often to
Speaker 5: go do uh Benjamin but whatever, like a white film.
Speaker 4: But I tell all, I'm gonna do some some Tom Cruise,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna shoot Mission Impossible next or you know, and
Speaker 4: I get it. Their directorship, you know, following minutes took
Speaker 4: a different route, you get me. They was doing horror
Speaker 4: films and all kinds of shit, and it probably was
Speaker 4: a lot of requests from the streets and uh to
Speaker 4: follow up with something in that line. But like you said,
Speaker 4: once they felt like shit, we didn't. We done left
Speaker 4: the block, nigga. Now we done moved up to Hollywood
Speaker 4: Hills because we're not staying We're not staying on fifty first,
Speaker 4: no more, Nigga Now, were staying in motherfucking behind the
Speaker 4: gates down the street for motherfucking you know so now
Speaker 4: or it's I say the same thing about Nigga's record. Sometimes,
Speaker 4: you know, they come in hungry. You hear it, You
Speaker 4: hear the songs, depression, poverty, nigga. If I make it,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm a whatever, whatever, and then motherfuckers go,
Speaker 4: damn yeah, blow up, sell three four million records, next thing,
Speaker 4: you know, Nigga, I've been had, Nigga. I'm on my
Speaker 4: fucking five million dollar yacht. Nigga, we drinking fucking champagne
Speaker 4: out of the bitches, ass cracks and shit, and.
Speaker 3: Like what happened to that?
Speaker 4: You know, like sometimes you gotta not forget about what
Speaker 4: got you.
Speaker 3: And it's hard to keep it, man, Because I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell you it's hard to keep it because it's a
Speaker 3: certain amount of pressure and stress to come with any
Speaker 3: amount of success. Oh, definitely, because you always and then
Speaker 3: it's one of them things. Let me ask you this,
Speaker 3: cause I'm pretty sure you went with this. People always
Speaker 3: think you got more than what you actually had. How
Speaker 3: did you deal with telling certain family members know what
Speaker 3: certain homies know. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I always gave what I had. It didn't like if
Speaker 1: I had one hundred dollar I could give.
Speaker 3: See I'm not talking about no money like that, because
Speaker 3: I think everybody do that. You know, you see the
Speaker 3: homie the only needs something. You look out for him.
Speaker 5: Let me let me, let me say something norm So,
Speaker 5: getting back to what A said, look at Mark scors
Speaker 5: I think he did edgy.
Speaker 1: Films as well.
Speaker 3: Mark.
Speaker 5: You say he didn't, but you guess what he did.
Speaker 5: You know what he understood about it. He's like, shit,
Speaker 5: I'm I'm going with the narrow. I'm gonna run it
Speaker 5: back with Pesci. I'm gonna run it back because he
Speaker 5: understood that that chemerastry, that dynamic when.
Speaker 6: You you can't teach chemistry, and when you have that kind
Speaker 6: of chemistry, you just don't let When when Dre and
Speaker 6: Snoop did the Chronic Guy, they knew, they knew that
Speaker 6: they had they knew that they had chemistry.
Speaker 1: So they're like, you know what we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: that's what this is.
Speaker 3: We're gonna We're gonna make this a franchise.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna run this back.
Speaker 5: So I just feel like I just feel like people
Speaker 5: just ancient to cross over. It's kind of like that's
Speaker 5: like eight. That's like eight doing what he did, and
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden he uh doing a country
Speaker 5: album or something like that.
Speaker 1: It's just you can, you can.
Speaker 4: I was too afraid to lose my core fans. You
Speaker 4: get you get presented with chances to go over, you know,
Speaker 4: and do something different. Maybe it would have been beneficial
Speaker 4: more than what my career has been.
Speaker 3: Maybe not. I just never wanted to stray away from
Speaker 3: what got me there. I tell you this right now.
Speaker 3: I love Timberland, but I don't want to exactly, you know.
Speaker 3: I just I just I never wanted and then when
Speaker 3: I got faced.
Speaker 4: With ship like that, I just took the lower and said,
Speaker 4: fuck it, I'm good. I just didn't want to, I
Speaker 4: guess disappoint the motherfuckers who walk through the struggle with
Speaker 4: me through those records, and then I turn around and go, Okay,
Speaker 4: thank you, thanks, fuck y'all. I'm finna go grab this
Speaker 4: motherfucking money bag and I'm finna rap about you know,
Speaker 4: partying and santro peis with you know, butt naked bitches
Speaker 4: and we partying and drinking and throwing money y'all out there.
Speaker 4: I didn't want my core fans to be like, what
Speaker 4: the fuck like dude?
Speaker 3: You know, so.
Speaker 4: Some some people take that route because the money is more.
Speaker 4: You know, I want to be that image. You So
Speaker 4: now I'm gonna go from wearing khakis and driving in
Speaker 4: a six ' four to I'm pulling up in the Bugatti.
Speaker 4: Nigga would fur on my boots and shit and my
Speaker 4: pants pockets and ship and you know, I got on
Speaker 4: the sea through tank top and ship like that and
Speaker 4: in a big fur hat because that's what they call
Speaker 4: fashion now. So you know, some people tend to, you know,
Speaker 4: go astray.
Speaker 3: You know, it's evidently it's a certain formula. You feel
Speaker 3: like they didn't they were too busy, they were too
Speaker 3: concerned with crossing over and doing other things. Is there's
Speaker 3: nothing wrong with wanting to scale.
Speaker 1: Listen, I think that. I think they don't own nobody, nothing.
Speaker 1: You can do. What you want to do is theirs
Speaker 1: their life.
Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is a lot of times people
Speaker 5: say I don't owe or help, Well.
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 5: For I don't, oh, I don't help you know if
Speaker 5: if if if eight got a podcast or longer a podcast,
Speaker 5: and I rock with y'all, like, what's wrong?
Speaker 1: What's helping is okay? Like I think we I think
Speaker 1: we're messed up with we thinking it's I don't.
Speaker 5: Own nobody or it's not that you own old boy,
Speaker 5: nothing like that, but it's you kind of well, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I will say, just and I agree with you.
Speaker 3: I feel like this, man, if I have the means
Speaker 3: of helping somebody that I call my homeboy, homegirl, family member, relative,
Speaker 3: if I have a means of helping them out, and
Speaker 3: they understand that they would have to dedicate a certain
Speaker 3: amount of time and work to it, I'm all in.
Speaker 3: Just don't expect me to do everything, but I'm definitely
Speaker 3: gonna help you. I feel like I'm obligated, right.
Speaker 5: So so look at it like this, Say we somewhere
Speaker 5: and we see somebody finish jumping Hughes brothers, Right, is
Speaker 5: it our obligation to help them?
Speaker 1: Motherfuckers?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: But if I feel like, man, that's the right thing
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 5: Shit Like if I see a somewhere and it ain't
Speaker 5: looking good, I feel like it's the right thing to do.
Speaker 1: And now hold on, homemi nigga, we both goin to
Speaker 1: get beat up or whatever that is.
Speaker 5: I feel like it's the right thing to do. It
Speaker 5: don't have to beat you, don't all. There's nothing wrong
Speaker 5: with being that kind of person that help. And I
Speaker 5: think people will get caught up in like you know what,
Speaker 5: in their own in their own and own business, where
Speaker 5: Alan Albert, you know, it wouldn't have hurt to help,
Speaker 5: It wouldn't have you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's all. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And then you when you go through the white films,
Speaker 5: it's so many white directors that you I don't you
Speaker 5: don't even know who they are. That's why when you
Speaker 5: do a Minuce or a Boys in the Hood, you
Speaker 5: get noticed. Like John Singleton, we know you did that.
Speaker 5: It's noticeable of your how good your work is because
Speaker 5: it's for the culture. But when you do what all
Speaker 5: if Alan gonna do Jurrassic Park right now, nobody's gonna
Speaker 5: care because we've seen seven of them already.
Speaker 3: Yeah for real, why.
Speaker 1: Already seen them? E f Grade Grade did Fast and Furious.
Speaker 1: John Singley did Fast and Furious.
Speaker 5: We know John Single did for Boys in the Hood
Speaker 5: because it stood out because he told a story about
Speaker 5: what everybody in our culture can relate to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you see what is That's why I think
Speaker 3: snowfall orisonated with so many people, which was his last work.
Speaker 3: It was kind of back a return back to the
Speaker 3: to the roofs, were going back to the neighborhood, you know,
Speaker 3: and it was a success.
Speaker 4: That's always an intriguing story for people, true situations that
Speaker 4: that they get to probably glance across or heard about
Speaker 4: or whatever.
Speaker 3: And uh saw.
Speaker 4: Truthfulness and situations always intrigue people.
Speaker 3: I just think White America, man, it's still captivated to
Speaker 3: this day about our lifestyle, especially people in Middle America
Speaker 3: that don't you know, you figure somebody in I can't
Speaker 3: say Omaha, Nebraska is kind of hood. They got they
Speaker 3: they got their spots down there, but somewhere like Bismarck,
Speaker 3: North Dakota where they don't see a lot of black people.
Speaker 3: Those type of spots are enclaves, man, that have a
Speaker 3: tendency just kind of live in their own world. I
Speaker 3: think people are all always like intrigued with what we
Speaker 3: got going on in the community. So you work pretty consistently.
Speaker 3: I would say that because you always got something going on.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of movies. I'll be sitting and watching
Speaker 3: TV at night. Sometimes I'm like this, Tyron, I don't
Speaker 3: even know Tyron was in this ship. So you stay working.
Speaker 5: This is the thing when you do when you when
Speaker 5: you do some classic it's gonna always. It's like doing
Speaker 5: a classic album. You know you're gonna always. It's it's
Speaker 5: hard to it's hard to top those you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: No matter how.
Speaker 5: Dope you are, you can do a big like it's
Speaker 5: hard to It's just hard to top those things. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, All the stuff eight has done.
Speaker 5: I'm throw straight up minute. Everybody always requests one of
Speaker 5: that's one of the one of the one of the
Speaker 5: top requests because like whoever God wrote that with him?
Speaker 5: That was that was that that that song. It's that's
Speaker 5: that movie song right there is like you know when
Speaker 5: when Ice Cube did How to Survive South Central, that
Speaker 5: was dope.
Speaker 1: But this motherfucker right here.
Speaker 4: We also had a song on the Boys in the
Speaker 4: Hood soundtrack too, We had growing Up in It that
Speaker 4: became a number one single when they had on a
Speaker 4: billboard rap chart. I just like I said, being influenced.
Speaker 4: You you feel me and it's not too difficult because
Speaker 4: I'm living this ship. You get me. U. I'm seeing
Speaker 4: the poverty, I'm seeing the gangs. I'm ship.
Speaker 3: I'm running with a gang. Uh.
Speaker 4: You know, straps and cracksacks and and and and hood
Speaker 4: rats in the neighborhood. And that was my life. You
Speaker 4: feel me.
Speaker 1: To tell those stories, it's genius and it's great. I can't.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna let you undermine the fact that you
Speaker 5: grew up in Yeah, you grew up in it.
Speaker 1: But to tell those stories and to and to get it, to.
Speaker 5: Get it across and for it to resonate like that,
Speaker 5: that's that's that's that's a It's a lot of niggas
Speaker 5: that can talk about getting shot this or that. What
Speaker 5: to have the you have to be gifted to make
Speaker 5: somebody like to articulate like.
Speaker 1: I'm at the liquor store with the.
Speaker 5: Strap the Japanese all that kind of like you have
Speaker 5: to like that ship is like that is entailed.
Speaker 1: Those are those are you.
Speaker 3: Know those little minute details you have?
Speaker 5: You have you have the minute details that niggas don't
Speaker 5: know how to explain in the hood.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it was, like like you said, the details
Speaker 4: was because.
Speaker 3: I wake up every day and I come over here.
Speaker 3: I'm standing over here with.
Speaker 4: Niggas and we're selling crack together, and you know, old
Speaker 4: niggas is dying, and and you know, we go on
Speaker 4: the funerals and all that type of shit. You know,
Speaker 4: I got a mom at home who don't understand, but
Speaker 4: you know, because she's from a different time.
Speaker 3: Like what I'm saying, we.
Speaker 4: Struggled with with slaves shit and and racism and all that,
Speaker 4: and I don't understand with this gang shit like y'all
Speaker 4: driving around shooting at each other and and and and
Speaker 4: wearing bandanas. Like my folks didn't understand it. And especially
Speaker 4: because I was the only motherfucker doing it, you feel me.
Speaker 4: Everybody else in my relatives they were still down south,
Speaker 4: you get me. They were still in the Mississippis and
Speaker 4: the Texas and shit, and so, like, what the fuck
Speaker 4: is going on out in California?
Speaker 5: Hey, You and you and Pop were the only rappers
Speaker 5: to explain the relationship between the Jeff Jeff Panese and
Speaker 5: the blacks, Like you know what I mean, y'all the
Speaker 5: only ones with him with Natasha, but the relationship with
Speaker 5: how we felt when we were in those careers.
Speaker 4: With the way we stereotype we had and it's crazy,
Speaker 4: because it's crazy when you think about it, to think like.
Speaker 3: This, we grew up here.
Speaker 4: And but you know, all in all, the majority of
Speaker 4: the liquor stores were owned by Japanese people, and you know,
Speaker 4: they had just had the spot meets, they had the
Speaker 4: liquor stores and all that. But you know that that
Speaker 4: came from and we over here struggling like a motherfucker
Speaker 4: motherfucker's needing food stamps and county checks and ship like
Speaker 4: that and so and and for us to be you
Speaker 4: get me like, damn, we got it from from the
Speaker 4: white people and ship back in the days long time,
Speaker 4: and now to be both coming out because y'all came
Speaker 4: out of some fucked up shit too, yeah, wanting to
Speaker 4: be in our neighborhood and now we're getting the dirty
Speaker 4: looks like you feel.
Speaker 3: Well, from what I understand, all of that was set
Speaker 3: up systematically kind of right, definitely, because like you said,
Speaker 3: they went through their own shit too, right, They went
Speaker 3: through a lot of shit. America did them dirty. Exactly
Speaker 3: what they did was they would give them loans, but
Speaker 3: they would only let them come to the black community
Speaker 3: because rather divide, you understand what I mean. It's almost
Speaker 3: like some divide and conquer type shit, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, right, because they got them scared from the
Speaker 3: moment they come over. You think about it, if you
Speaker 3: come to a country right where, you probably haven't seen
Speaker 3: very many of these people over here, but everything you
Speaker 3: hear about them is fucked up and bad. So now
Speaker 3: you put them in the community, and the truth of
Speaker 3: the matter is a lot of them people in them
Speaker 3: stories don't make a lot of money. You feel what
Speaker 3: I mean. They're being overhead. And I knew when I
Speaker 3: worked in the liquor business, a lot of those people
Speaker 3: lived in their stories. Man. What they would do. They
Speaker 3: would get a family come over. You will see a
Speaker 3: brother come over. He would get a liquor store and
Speaker 3: he would live in the back of that store. Right
Speaker 3: then once he built the store up, he's usually going
Speaker 3: to go buy another one right in the neighborhood. And
Speaker 3: then you would see his brother you coming there the
Speaker 3: next week. Who are you? Yeah, Japanese and Korean people,
Speaker 3: that's all because they ain't all.
Speaker 5: Japanese, but they used to give us like they used
Speaker 5: to give us credit.
Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, but they just didn't
Speaker 1: give you.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They give you credit like in my neighborhood.
Speaker 3: You can oh yeah, I think that's nationwide.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they make you could pay next week.
Speaker 5: So it seemed like they had they had front.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what the thing is, because we in
Speaker 3: this weird we in this weird situation kind of together.
Speaker 3: They're trying to survive in the store, right, and they
Speaker 3: know the average person that got any kinpe of success
Speaker 3: in the neighbor but he knows I'm gonna have to
Speaker 3: deal with m c A. Aaron when he come in here.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to deal with Tyr. And I know
Speaker 3: them and in many cases they've known you for many years.
Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying. So Grandma, she taking care
Speaker 3: of the kids, right, she might be to go down
Speaker 3: there and get a couple of gallons of milk, some
Speaker 3: eggs and pancakes, you know, some pancake mixed some cereal
Speaker 3: or whatever on credit until you get that one check
Speaker 3: that gotta last through the whole month.
Speaker 1: And see when you in your neighborhood in my neighborhood.
Speaker 1: We end up getting cool with the jazz.
Speaker 5: It's just when you go to another neighbor like when
Speaker 5: you when you're outside and another time, and.
Speaker 3: I gotta correct you a little bit because you be
Speaker 3: seeing them old white people racist words. You didn't mean
Speaker 3: to dog, but everything is so sensitive now. The Japanese people,
Speaker 3: and some of them are Korean. Everybody in Japanese.
Speaker 5: Don't excuse me because I really don't know so that
Speaker 5: it's called instead of Japanese, is called Korean.
Speaker 3: No, No, Korean is Korean is one nationality. You got
Speaker 3: jap got people that are from Japan that are indigenous
Speaker 3: to Japan.
Speaker 1: Prejudice.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Japan is definitely prejudiced. There's definitely prejudice.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even know that.
Speaker 3: What. No, man, everything is, everything is different. Now. That's
Speaker 3: why I'm telling you, I'll make it my business to
Speaker 3: be you know, I'm a media now, so I make
Speaker 3: it my business and I'm a you know, thank you
Speaker 3: clean that shit up harm you know. But Korean people
Speaker 3: are Korean people. They have their own proud, rich hair.
Speaker 3: It's Japanese people or Japanese. You know, you got Cambodian people,
Speaker 3: you know, you've got different nationalities. You got different nationalities.
Speaker 3: So man, you going through this hell of a run.
Speaker 3: Man you're working and everything back to you felt like
Speaker 3: the phone wouldn't ringing like it should be because you're
Speaker 3: an excellent actor.
Speaker 1: I felt like.
Speaker 5: I felt like after minutes they said, you know, they said,
Speaker 5: like you're going to be a star. So I just
Speaker 5: took it literally, I took it for face value, like,
Speaker 5: you know, if it was if it was another actor,
Speaker 5: like a white actor or whatever, it would have been.
Speaker 5: Could you imagine somebody having that kind of hit. So
Speaker 5: I just took it that way. But but it wasn't
Speaker 5: that way.
Speaker 3: You think you might have got type cast because you
Speaker 3: played that role so well. You think they just saw
Speaker 3: you as the black urban kid from the community. It
Speaker 3: was kind of like.
Speaker 4: Because look at all of I mean, Lorenz got rolls
Speaker 4: and they went back to the well with Lorenz with
Speaker 4: with dead presidents. So I don't know if that's because.
Speaker 3: I just they fell they did the brothers did do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they did dead presidents. And then he wasn't type
Speaker 4: cast as old dogs.
Speaker 3: He had character in the movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he got he got romance rolls and army Vietnam
Speaker 4: rolls and you know so, but then they come back
Speaker 4: and they offer you always the hood roles or the
Speaker 4: or the dope dealer on the corner rolls. And it's
Speaker 4: crazy because those roles were reversed in minutes because Tyron
Speaker 4: was the one trying to make the decision if I'm
Speaker 4: gonna do with a wax and old dog and them
Speaker 4: is doing or I'm a dude with Grandma on them
Speaker 4: and the girl is saying that I should before.
Speaker 3: It's that's why I say he was Kendrick before Kendrick existed.
Speaker 3: You know, the good kid man sitting right and he
Speaker 3: is just like not really a gangster, but like not
Speaker 3: a gang member, but just a dude teetering.
Speaker 4: Right outside the eggs. You do a little bit here
Speaker 4: and there, but he's kind of flew up in the neighborhood.
Speaker 4: Most of your friends are affiliated. Now, you might have
Speaker 4: not been jumped in yet or claiming the hood, but
Speaker 4: you best believe you got about three or four or
Speaker 4: five niggas or homeboys that you went to elementary school
Speaker 4: with and whatever whatever. Then niggas is full fledged banion
Speaker 4: and they still considered your friends.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for real, and Tyring you never got married because
Speaker 3: woman was on your ass. Dog back then, we an't
Speaker 3: have women.
Speaker 4: Man said, we are trying to be niggas said, we
Speaker 4: all had women.
Speaker 1: Let me play, so let me, let me let me.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tap into the type cast thing, like the
Speaker 5: type cast situation, right, I don't really care, Like I'm
Speaker 5: an actor, Like what if I had to play a
Speaker 5: game bringer a billion times, I'll put him a billion
Speaker 5: times a different billion ways.
Speaker 1: I don't really That's like.
Speaker 5: Saying if Tupac or is he typecast because all he
Speaker 5: could do, all he do is tell stories about what's
Speaker 5: going on in his hood or but that don't that
Speaker 5: that don't matter. I don't think if you look at
Speaker 5: Robert de Niro, it's about it's about you getting a
Speaker 5: role and you're doing it. Like even even even even
Speaker 5: in minutes, I wasn't. I wasn't always. If you look
Speaker 5: at minutes, I was vulnerable. I cried, I showed it
Speaker 5: more I didn't. I showed my range. I wasn't just
Speaker 5: had a gun in my And.
Speaker 3: Let's not get a twist. It ain't like you ain't
Speaker 3: working because you just had You just did some stuff for.
Speaker 5: Fox, right, Oh yeah, yeah, I got my television shows
Speaker 5: on Fox right now, executive producing on a on a
Speaker 5: TV show call Alert, you know, so that's behind the scenes.
Speaker 5: So no, it's not about me not working. We just
Speaker 5: we're just talking about we're just keeping it real right now.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, because you should be having more FaceTime on
Speaker 3: the camera. The first when I start hanging around Eight,
Speaker 3: the first thing I asked him because I said, man,
Speaker 3: you was doing some hell of her. Then I found
Speaker 3: out later on he really wasn't acting, you know, but
Speaker 3: you should have had more roles. And then it comes
Speaker 3: you know, eight should have had more roles. You should
Speaker 3: have been because I was expecting you to go to
Speaker 3: that like but that Leonardo DiCaprio level.
Speaker 1: Damn that but that But that that's life, man. Life
Speaker 1: is just real, Like it ain't. It's like life. Life
Speaker 1: is just life is just real, Like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So you just gotta you can't you can't.
Speaker 5: I'm healthy, we breathing, We still hear, like, you know,
Speaker 5: there's a lot of I'm just I'm fortunate.
Speaker 1: Even with Belly, I was supposed.
Speaker 5: To be the lead character, you know, but it was
Speaker 5: meant for dm X because DMX wasn't gonna be here
Speaker 5: that long, and God wanted that for him.
Speaker 1: That was his thing for him to have at that moment,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: You know, so you have to you just have to understand,
Speaker 5: like people like Michael Jackson he died at fifty, were
Speaker 5: still here, right, he probably would give anything just to
Speaker 5: have a subway sandwich. So I'm just happy that me
Speaker 5: and we're still here. Like, as long as we're here still,
Speaker 5: we still got opportunities. And we don't know why things
Speaker 5: happen the way they do.
Speaker 1: You just don't know.
Speaker 4: I look at it like, and this is something like
Speaker 4: I tell my son because and this is with with
Speaker 4: any profession, it's that it's that uh, that's saying you
Speaker 4: take the high road, I'll take the low road. Uh,
Speaker 4: And somebody gonna be there before the next person.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Never said you wasn't gonna get there, just said it
Speaker 4: was gonna take you longer because you taking the lower
Speaker 4: You feel me, So I try to tell that to
Speaker 4: my son, and I even tell it to myself. It's
Speaker 4: motherfuckers who can come in today, tomorrow, the overnight success.
Speaker 4: You've been doing this shit for fifteen years and you
Speaker 4: be like God damn, But then if you.
Speaker 3: Look up, you're still on that same road.
Speaker 4: You get me nothing, it's just been you even had
Speaker 4: a boulder in your path, or motherfucking your tire was flat,
Speaker 4: or motherfucker you had to get a new engine put
Speaker 4: in the car. But if you look up, you're still
Speaker 4: on the same road. It's not to the point to
Speaker 4: where it just ain't you get me? Oh, motherfucker, you
Speaker 4: might as well go junk this car or you're never
Speaker 4: gonna Nobody told you you get me. Nigga, I'm still
Speaker 4: rolling you get me, and it's not to where. Like
Speaker 4: I said, you donet hit them too many. Motherfucking nigga.
Speaker 4: If you you on that road, still you on that road.
Speaker 4: And as long as you still breathing and you still
Speaker 4: can work, you still going there. You feel me, You
Speaker 4: still going there. You might look up fifteen years from now,
Speaker 4: you just now pulling into that motherfucker spot like god damn,
Speaker 4: it took me long to get here. But so I
Speaker 4: tell that's why I tell my son, don't this.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: A nigga put out a record today and tomorrow he
Speaker 4: don sold ten million copies.
Speaker 3: It might take you ten years to sell ten copies
Speaker 3: that dude might not be around in two or three years.
Speaker 4: That's how it works sometimes. So I appreciate, appreciate the
Speaker 4: position and the opportunity.
Speaker 3: If you got it still, you get me.
Speaker 4: Ain't a motherfucker, ain't buried you underground and you got
Speaker 4: a headstone. Motherfucker, you're still here. So if you could
Speaker 4: come compete, compete, Nobody telling you you can't.
Speaker 3: You don't.
Speaker 4: Motherfuckers be with the age ship sometime or you this,
Speaker 4: or nigga, please, I still can motherfucking act circles around
Speaker 4: and nigganna rap around the motherfucker.
Speaker 3: If I needed to, you get me. So that's what
Speaker 3: I always say, and like and like Tyron said, Man,
Speaker 3: they ain't like motherfucker's on their death bed dogs.
Speaker 4: So it's like you just told you you're still in
Speaker 4: the car. You got a flatter to her, but you
Speaker 4: got a spur on the trunk the nigga. Let's roll
Speaker 4: roll up some motherfucker weed. Nigga, let's get back over
Speaker 4: the road, NIGGI.
Speaker 3: Man, he was clowning earlier when you first came in. Man,
Speaker 3: you've been making your rounds. Man, you're starting to beat man.
Speaker 3: One of the most sought after the Cats online for interviews.
Speaker 1: Man, I think, I think, I just I think people
Speaker 1: like my My My approach is kind of honest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I'm messy. I just tell the truth the way
Speaker 1: that I see you say the truth.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you a question with women, man,
Speaker 3: and you don't have to say who if if you
Speaker 3: had one of them Hollywood's moments man, with one of
Speaker 3: them starlets. Man, you was fantasizing the bar before you
Speaker 3: got on and you had her in your bed, and
Speaker 3: he was like, damn, I'm about to knock this down.
Speaker 3: Have you ever had that moment?
Speaker 1: I've had fantasies about women, you know, I'm not.
Speaker 3: Talking about.
Speaker 4: If they always wanted to know some woman some sexual
Speaker 4: shit like he always want to know some sexual.
Speaker 3: Ship still get off.
Speaker 4: Hey, man, I think when I first came on the show,
Speaker 4: he was, hey, man, you know you did all that
Speaker 4: rapping and acting.
Speaker 3: You ain't never met one of them celebrities. You that celebrity.
Speaker 3: You ain't never had no celebrity. Don't tell you what
Speaker 3: I don't. You don't kiss and tell.
Speaker 5: You can't and tell man, you know, and I'm not
Speaker 5: really into like celebrity female. I like, I just like
Speaker 5: women like I I see a woman at the bus
Speaker 5: stop and putting and busting you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, that's a question. Do you find
Speaker 3: it easier having relationships with regular like women outside the
Speaker 3: entertainment industry?
Speaker 1: I just don't.
Speaker 5: Like I've always felt like I would like to date
Speaker 5: a woman that I could show her something more like
Speaker 5: if you if I was to day somebody like a.
Speaker 1: Like a celebrity, like what can what can you? What
Speaker 1: can make her smile? She already been seeing every everything.
Speaker 5: But if you take somebody that ain't never seen nothing,
Speaker 5: you'd be like, oh, we're gonna go to Hawaii or
Speaker 5: they were like, oh my god, it's it's like something,
Speaker 5: it's something.
Speaker 3: Yeah. People gotta be able to appreciate, you know, there's nothing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's nothing I could do to make Beyonce or
Speaker 5: someone somebody of that caliber appreciates them.
Speaker 3: What I'm what?
Speaker 1: What can I get a bunch of some buccie flip
Speaker 1: floppers up?
Speaker 3: Like it's like that's the thing she never got divorced
Speaker 3: the hard time.
Speaker 4: It's like it's like the saying, and what can I
Speaker 4: get a motherfucker who already got everything?
Speaker 3: You get me? That's real? So Okay, there we go.
Speaker 1: You like square women, yeah, I like I like colored
Speaker 1: I like square women. You know, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: mind a woman not having something for itself. Like I'm
Speaker 1: not a trick or that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Ain't that?
Speaker 5: You know a woman can have a job and and
Speaker 5: and and do something for a person. You know, I'm
Speaker 5: not driving out, but I'll do the same thing.
Speaker 1: But I'm not. I don't have to have no I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna. I don't have to be with no
Speaker 1: star woman like I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 1: That don't make me feel comfortable, like, oh, I'm with
Speaker 1: you know, somebody of that caliber, Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, and I hear about a new fight that
Speaker 3: you don't have all the time. I'll be watching your interviews. Dog,
Speaker 3: I'll be laughing like a motherfucker. I saw some ship
Speaker 3: that says you beat up Casey and jokes you at
Speaker 3: the same time.
Speaker 1: I never, I never, I've never in my mind.
Speaker 3: I said some ship about you and Trey d Wrestling.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, trad we we was at Snoop House and
Speaker 1: we was a so hey, you know back in you
Speaker 1: know you go body, you slap box.
Speaker 3: You know that definitely.
Speaker 1: So at Snoop House, you know, you gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: do some things.
Speaker 5: But we all out there, you know, everybody slap boxing
Speaker 5: or whatever that whatever it is, it's all in fun.
Speaker 5: It's all ain't nobody it ain't nothing real about it.
Speaker 5: And so then uh me and Trady, you know, we
Speaker 5: just we got down on on some on some on
Speaker 5: some wrestle you know, playing you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It was, yeah you wrestled before, Yeah, like we see
Speaker 3: it ain't if you do that because I wrestled. So
Speaker 3: if you a dude that actually wrestled, man, it's not
Speaker 3: fair wrestling dude that ain't never wrestled before. You go
Speaker 3: get the vantage. You get to take advantage of them
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 5: It's all about balance and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: But now trad D is like, you know, trad D
Speaker 5: is the homie like he real he you know, he
Speaker 5: ain't no ego. Like if you if you if you're strong,
Speaker 5: you're gonna tell you he tripping like that.
Speaker 3: Like I wonder what's up with these people in them titles? Man?
Speaker 3: Like this Internet is motherfuck.
Speaker 4: That's just because you just have to watch, you know,
Speaker 4: because like you, like I say every time. The main
Speaker 4: thing is content and it's not about truth or lie.
Speaker 4: It's just about getting the story out there and let
Speaker 4: people decipher their own decision. Dog, these motherfuckers is lying.
Speaker 4: Dog motherfuckers say. And that's like I said, that's what
Speaker 4: people do to develop content. I gotta get you to
Speaker 4: come to my site or my channel or my page.
Speaker 4: So I mean, like, there's not too many people who
Speaker 4: gonna go around like, oh you lie, I'm gonna sue you.
Speaker 4: You know, that's for the upper you know, motherfuckers who
Speaker 4: feel like they were to a regular nigga, nigga, that
Speaker 4: nigga liing, and it's not gonna do anything. It's not
Speaker 4: gonna affect me because it's a lie. And most of
Speaker 4: the time, if you let the ship die out and
Speaker 4: die out faster than its start, and when you keep
Speaker 4: adding fuel to the fucking.
Speaker 3: Fire, then you don't take it. You got to leave
Speaker 3: it alone.
Speaker 4: You're gonna take a campfire to a brush fire, nigga
Speaker 4: if you just keep adding fuel to it. So most
Speaker 4: of the time, if you just let that motherfucker die out,
Speaker 4: so it's gonna die itself out.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Man, So what's next for Tyran Turner, Man, what's next.
Speaker 5: Basically just I'm more on the creative side, man, trying
Speaker 5: to create my own, my own stuff, like my own
Speaker 5: TV show, put myself on my own stuff. You know
Speaker 5: what I mean, I don't necessarily I want to. I
Speaker 5: want to hustle in every aspect of it. I'll if
Speaker 5: some offers come, I'll do that. If I have to
Speaker 5: meet and take meetings for for for movies or television, whatever, I.
Speaker 1: Would do it.
Speaker 5: I'm just hustle all the way around the board. But
Speaker 5: my main focus is just creating myself.
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, I know, we got some things that
Speaker 3: we go start working on, Like I told you, just
Speaker 3: a few books that I've recently acquired the rights to
Speaker 3: work with that and putting that situation together. Then we
Speaker 3: got a series I'm real excited about, man, that's gonna
Speaker 3: be starring MC eight. And then you know, I'm talking
Speaker 3: like real earlier about it, but I'm talking to some
Speaker 3: I mean, like, you know, you get to that second
Speaker 3: stage and where you talk about getting the funding for
Speaker 3: stuff and all that. So I'm real excited about that
Speaker 3: because it's gonna be able to put him in a
Speaker 3: different light but in the same light that people used
Speaker 3: to seeing them just another side of it. You feel
Speaker 3: what I mean, And I think that's gonna be dope.
Speaker 3: Manca's a lot of people don't know that you direct
Speaker 3: and everything too. Yeah. I love that.
Speaker 5: Yep, I understand what I want. I see the vision
Speaker 5: and I would you know, that's one of my one
Speaker 5: of the things I want to do.
Speaker 1: See. At first, when you get in the business, you're like, well,
Speaker 1: I just want to be an actor. Then you learned
Speaker 1: this shit, You're like, man, I'm a fucking filmmaker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've been around and never Yeah, the way you
Speaker 3: know at least what it's supposed to look like, and
Speaker 3: you work with the best. Let me ask you this,
Speaker 3: we in the day and the time, man, that where
Speaker 3: really when I see actors and actresses online that have had,
Speaker 3: you know, a certain amount of notoriety and success talk about,
Speaker 3: oh I'm not getting no parts, I'm like, you could
Speaker 3: go put your own movies out. I would if I
Speaker 3: had a certain level of infamy. If I was you know,
Speaker 3: I had a certain level of status and I was
Speaker 3: an actor actress, I wouldn't be tripping on nobody. And
Speaker 3: I give me I'm gonna produce my own stuff. You
Speaker 3: can go directly. You got sites like to be Amazon, Prime, Peacock,
Speaker 3: you have all these different opportunities and outlets. You can
Speaker 3: go do your own thing.
Speaker 5: Now, Okay, Well it's kind of like this, like it's
Speaker 5: easier said to done. Like some people are just used
Speaker 5: to the way things are. Like I'm like when people
Speaker 5: be telling me that stuff, I'll be like, I'm just
Speaker 5: used to the studio. I'm used to like you so
Speaker 5: familiar with it, Like nobody want to just lear I
Speaker 5: don't want to go straight to DVD or I don't
Speaker 5: want to go to to be like we're so used
Speaker 5: to just kind of like the system of how it's supposed.
Speaker 3: To that regular that regular machine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, regular machine.
Speaker 4: A lot of stuff you have to you just have
Speaker 4: to jump out there and try this ship and then
Speaker 4: usually that's how SURE becomes successful when you take that chance.
Speaker 4: You know, if you don't want to take that chance,
Speaker 4: then you're probably gonna be sitting where you were sitting
Speaker 4: and begin with.
Speaker 3: Man, I gotta give a lot of love to the
Speaker 3: homies and Detroit, Michigan. Sorry to cut you off, Dennis Reed.
Speaker 3: The murder painct out there Detroit is not exactly Hollywood.
Speaker 3: They've created they thing. I was talking to one of
Speaker 3: the homie shots of The Twins Man, but they was
Speaker 3: telling me that Detroit looked like it was in the nineties.
Speaker 3: Now in the eighties, you know, Cats is really out
Speaker 3: there getting to it into their bag. Independent films have
Speaker 3: done so well in Detroit and his mass to change neighborhoods.
Speaker 3: You got brothers out there rejuvenating the whole block. Now
Speaker 3: they buying up all the old houses on the block.
Speaker 3: There used to be crack spots and they're rebuilding them.
Speaker 3: Stuff like that. Man, It's real dope, and it's a
Speaker 3: lot of opportunity out there. There's a lot of money
Speaker 3: out there, dog, And I think when you got people
Speaker 3: such as yourself with your pedigree, I think you could
Speaker 3: do very well in that space. Bro.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so too, Like I'm definitely gonna I'm definitely gonna
Speaker 5: take it.
Speaker 1: Take my crack at it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: It's like kind of like you you probably understand how
Speaker 5: to do independent music or whatever, but there was one
Speaker 5: point where you kind of knew what it was like
Speaker 5: my label.
Speaker 1: Taking taking care of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was you in that A lot of people
Speaker 4: were skeptical, but like I said, at one at one
Speaker 4: point you have to uh just take a chance. And
Speaker 4: uh that's what basically, you know, is how you continue
Speaker 4: your career or whatever, because at one point in time
Speaker 4: you're gonna get cut or fired or laid off, or
Speaker 4: we're gonna go in a different direction. And it's all business,
Speaker 4: you get me. You can't look at shit personal. So
Speaker 4: you gotta be you gotta be ready for the next chapter.
Speaker 3: That's all. That's all. If if you have the business
Speaker 3: mind and.
Speaker 4: Just the willingness and time, then you know, just got
Speaker 4: to put forth that effort and take that plungs, you know,
Speaker 4: do that bungee jump, you know, just take that chance,
Speaker 4: and then that's how shit pay off for you.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Just my question that you ate. Do you have like
Speaker 1: do you actually have a favorite song that you recorded on?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: I like everything I do, whether it's you know, whether
Speaker 4: it's the more popular shit for the people, or it's
Speaker 4: whether it's something personal. I just try to put pride
Speaker 4: in there whatever I write, you know, because it's for
Speaker 4: the people and people spending their money or the time
Speaker 4: to listen to it. So I try not to deliver
Speaker 4: no bullshit, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think, Man, going back to what you
Speaker 3: said earlier, I see this a lot. Man. Me being
Speaker 3: in management, certain guys that were used to being on
Speaker 3: labels and a label taking care of everything. Like they
Speaker 3: like going fresh frunt and everything is already taken care of.
Speaker 3: They don't have to call nobody, don't have to set
Speaker 3: nothing up. They like going to the studio. Everything is
Speaker 3: taking care of already. I think when you already used
Speaker 3: to every opportunity I've ever got, I kind of have to.
Speaker 3: It was all through my own dime. You feel what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I've always bettered on myself and been like,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna go do this. If it works,
Speaker 3: I'll reap the benefits. If it don't work, back to
Speaker 3: the drawing board to go do something else. Man, I'm
Speaker 3: finally glad to get you on here. Man, I'm glad
Speaker 3: we finally got you on here. Is you the hommy?
Speaker 3: I said, Man, I got tired of people hitting me up? Man,
Speaker 3: can you step me up with tiring? I said, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna need to get him on my show. Man, y'all
Speaker 3: have to wait now, for sure. I had to wait. Man.
Speaker 4: Now my son is in college right now playing football. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's quarterback. So he's at home right now for spring break.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get to the house right now.
Speaker 3: Quarter he he's uh six feet and he got wheels too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, threat quarterback. So he's a three star. He's been
Speaker 4: playing this game since he was five, so he's determined
Speaker 4: to make something out of it. But just the fact
Speaker 4: that he's able to go to college. He's at a
Speaker 4: D one f c S school, so.
Speaker 3: He loves it. So it is what it is. Dreams
Speaker 3: coming true.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all we try to do. Make it better
Speaker 4: for the kids and give him, you know, a different position.
Speaker 4: How many kids you got twins?
Speaker 3: Twins? See, Tyrant is a consummate Baxter Man. Yeah, yay.
Speaker 3: You ever see yourself getting married? I don't want to
Speaker 3: get married, right.
Speaker 4: That's a whole another interview though, Yeah, that's another that's
Speaker 4: another time they'll say your love connection. Hey, I want
Speaker 4: to tell you before we get up out of here,
Speaker 4: we have a new YouTube channel to Gainst the chronic
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Speaker 4: man check.
Speaker 3: Us out, and we're gonna well. That concludes another episode
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