Speaker 1: They around the NFL podcast.
Speaker 2: Has no Dead Champ money.
Speaker 3: From the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL.
Speaker 3: I am Dan Hansis. I have heroes here, Greg Rosenthal
Speaker 3: and Mark Sessler. And it is the second day of
Speaker 3: the new league year. And kudos to us or finally
Speaker 3: cutting through all the red tape and like, don't tell
Speaker 3: me the league year starting Wednesday is this big important
Speaker 3: entre the whole weeks.
Speaker 4: It's the beginning of the week and now here later
Speaker 4: in the week.
Speaker 3: So he took Wednesday off and now we have a
Speaker 3: much clearer picture of everything.
Speaker 1: Huzza. I mean to me, there is no larger force farce,
Speaker 1: I should say, in all of pro sports than the
Speaker 1: NFL calendar in March. It's like, none of it. It's
Speaker 1: it's like, don't try to tell me that anything starts
Speaker 1: at a certain time. I won't buy it because we
Speaker 1: were It's day two of what we've been grinding since
Speaker 1: Sunday mid afternoon.
Speaker 5: If I Heeart's not going to give us any credit.
Speaker 5: At least Dan did right to start off the show.
Speaker 1: Nailed it, nailed it. We're good at that.
Speaker 3: This is yes, really, in reality, the fourth day of
Speaker 3: the league year.
Speaker 1: Don't listen to them, listen to us.
Speaker 3: And that means many many of the big players that
Speaker 3: were going into free agency looking for homes or looking
Speaker 3: to stay with their team, just looking to do business
Speaker 3: have done that business.
Speaker 1: In fact, GREGI of your top one oh one, how
Speaker 1: many like.
Speaker 3: Who's the what number is the highest ranking player left?
Speaker 5: Well, Tyron Smith has like a four next to his name,
Speaker 5: But on the original, the original, yeah, he would have
Speaker 5: been I think fourteen, And he also would have been
Speaker 5: the only player on the original list of even the
Speaker 5: top twenty that's unaccounted for, the only one. And then yeah,
Speaker 5: so one O the Kendall Fuller, who I apparently valued
Speaker 5: a lot higher than NFL teams, actually just came off
Speaker 5: the board. He would have been thirteenth on the list
Speaker 5: that when you know, kind of final on Monday, as
Speaker 5: the as the negotiating period started, and he just went
Speaker 5: off the board. To the Dolphins, who have actually made
Speaker 5: it quietly a bunch of nice little moves.
Speaker 1: We're still working on our list, and I think there's yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of question. No, it's no, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: more like you know, we've we exhibit patients, what the
Speaker 1: list will come when we feel it's time for it
Speaker 1: to show up. I mean, what are we doing that
Speaker 1: houses out of the horses side of the barn.
Speaker 3: It's on the highwayax Mark, I did not tell you
Speaker 3: that we did release it. Oh well, that's good, okay,
Speaker 3: but load to hear that it's on the internet. Okay,
Speaker 3: but it's we's why was I not brought into that process?
Speaker 3: We've been because it was top secret. We dropped it
Speaker 3: as an easter egg on the internet.
Speaker 5: It was actually if you could find the url right
Speaker 5: put out on the company, we could read it. That
Speaker 5: company was recently bought by European investors and they told
Speaker 5: everyone you know that there.
Speaker 3: What I do love is we published it on dead
Speaker 3: Spin and it was immediately around medic That's not our fault.
Speaker 1: I love the Greg underneath the layers of you know,
Speaker 1: deciding whether or not this was a real project. Greg
Speaker 1: is a little annoyed that we continue to pump up
Speaker 1: a little bit our list just a little time. You
Speaker 1: never know.
Speaker 5: I love it because it's showing how tough it is
Speaker 5: to make that list.
Speaker 1: Where is your listen?
Speaker 3: It's always surprising what actually annoys Greg like talking about
Speaker 3: the pickstandings, or that football that the charity gave me
Speaker 3: football from, or for some reason the free agency two thirteen.
Speaker 4: That's just you could tell just a little bit of agitation.
Speaker 1: Why is that? Greg? Why is it certain thing? And
Speaker 1: then other things.
Speaker 4: It's like, ah, nothing really matter.
Speaker 5: The only thing that's bothering me about this is that
Speaker 5: you actually believe what you just said.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: I believe one hundred percent like Rogers. I believe everything
Speaker 3: I say and I believe it to be correct.
Speaker 5: You just don't believe anything anyone else says, at least
Speaker 5: from like a large sort of organizational or societal stand.
Speaker 1: I don't now, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: We are going to be getting deep into a look
Speaker 3: back and in terms of what has happened this week,
Speaker 3: and also of course looking ahead to what's still to come,
Speaker 3: with the great Bill Barnwell, who is a great person
Speaker 3: to talk to this.
Speaker 4: Time or year, really any time of year, but this
Speaker 4: time of year especially.
Speaker 3: So that's coming up a little bit later, but first,
Speaker 3: let's get caught up on the news since we last
Speaker 3: spoke with you. Hey, someone's going to ask you, so
Speaker 3: have you had the little ass boy conversation with Max.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, sure, not of son. He's a big ass boys.
Speaker 1: What he is?
Speaker 5: You gota?
Speaker 3: I did not even connect the dots on that. Gardner
Speaker 3: Menshew signs with the Las Vegas Raiders and do we
Speaker 3: have that original sound from inside the NFL the for
Speaker 3: context that Minshew in a game last year was repeatedly
Speaker 3: belittled by Crosby on the field for his stature, to
Speaker 3: the point where you cut to Minshew in the second
Speaker 3: half and he's like, I'm not that small, maybe for
Speaker 3: according to the football world, but.
Speaker 2: Boy, well that boy, dude nice Crosby is so that
Speaker 2: I'm angry.
Speaker 1: Burke.
Speaker 6: He just like the thing is like, he's not that.
Speaker 2: I know, right, he just calls he keeps calling.
Speaker 1: Everybody low lass boy, little ass boy.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a little out here, but.
Speaker 2: Not always, you know.
Speaker 5: Gardner Minshew, the way he says it, he's really got
Speaker 5: a McConaughey vibe to him. That's I gotta say, I
Speaker 5: I think that's kind of what you want out of
Speaker 5: your quarterback. He could be pointing out John Candy in
Speaker 5: the in the crowd right before he goes and has
Speaker 5: a game winning Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Well, maybe that'll find out with any gardner Minshew, Joe Montana, Parafe.
Speaker 6: If he beats out Aiden O'Connell, maybe that'll happen.
Speaker 3: He's still perfect, perfect landing spot for Minshew. Let's see
Speaker 3: if he can squeeze some more starts out of this.
Speaker 3: All right, let's start though in Tennessee, where a surprise
Speaker 3: on Wednesday the Calvin Ridley we had talked about in
Speaker 3: our previous show, and in general, all the arrows seem
Speaker 3: to be pointing to him returning to Jacksonville and circumventing
Speaker 3: that the trade terms with Atlanta to avoid giving up
Speaker 3: a second round pick, that he would just sign with
Speaker 3: the Jags.
Speaker 1: Who we spent last year with.
Speaker 3: On the first day of the league year, No, all
Speaker 3: that erroneous, Ridley signs a four year, ninety two million
Speaker 3: dollar contract with the Titans that includes fifty million guaranteed.
Speaker 1: He's now, in terms of.
Speaker 3: Average value of salary at that position, a top ten,
Speaker 3: which really jumps out to me. Mark is a little
Speaker 3: rich for my blood with Calvin Ridley, a guy that's
Speaker 3: twenty nine years old. He's got a suspension on the ledger.
Speaker 3: He faded a little bit last year, was a little
Speaker 3: hot and cold in general, and you're paying him as
Speaker 3: a number one like that once again, the Dalton scale
Speaker 3: of wide receivers. That is an off season episode that
Speaker 3: is screaming at us. Where would Ridley fall? I think
Speaker 3: on the other side of that, So let's talk about it,
Speaker 3: because he's not being that.
Speaker 1: That these wide receiver deals for a number of years
Speaker 1: in a row have been have been wild. I I
Speaker 1: would say this though about the Titans in general. I
Speaker 1: don't know if Calvin Ridley is I'm with you. I
Speaker 1: think the money is more than the man in this situation.
Speaker 1: But this was a team that desperately needed to read
Speaker 1: the man well the player the player. Okay, okay, that's
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know him personally, so that
Speaker 1: that was out of bounds by me and I.
Speaker 3: Not since you took down the entire insider culture have
Speaker 3: I thought that you really made such a personal attack
Speaker 3: more on that.
Speaker 1: That was only a couple of days ago. But now
Speaker 1: you add Ridley to DeAndre Hopkins, Traylon Burk's Nick Westprookakina,
Speaker 1: It's like Will Levis is coming out of this as
Speaker 1: somewhat of a winner because a they didn't Can you
Speaker 1: say those again. Say those names again, Calvin Ridley, DeAndre Hopkins,
Speaker 1: Traylon Burks, Nick West, Prookakina. It's not that they couldn't
Speaker 1: go draft someone else too, It's just that I'm just
Speaker 1: saying they They were bottom of the barrel, one of
Speaker 1: the worst wide receiver groups in the league at times
Speaker 1: last year. And it it's like, if Hopkins can still play,
Speaker 1: I don't hate Ridley and Hopkins as a duo. They
Speaker 1: added Tony Pollard with Cushion Berry. It's like they are
Speaker 1: at least active. They needed to do, They needed to
Speaker 1: take steps, and they're taking steps.
Speaker 5: It was one of the only contracts this offseason that
Speaker 5: when they reported, I was like, wow, I did not
Speaker 5: expect him to be that far above the rest of
Speaker 5: the class of receivers that even got to free agency.
Speaker 5: Markus Brown, for instance, hasn't even signed yet though, so
Speaker 5: we'll see what he gets, but it's not going to
Speaker 5: be anything close to this. When it was fifty million
Speaker 5: dollars guaranteed. So you mentioned the average contract, I think
Speaker 5: that actually does favors to the Titans. So unless the
Speaker 5: reporting is extremely misleading, it's fifty million dollars guaranteed, which
Speaker 5: I would assume is basically over the first two years
Speaker 5: of his contract, so that's more like twenty five.
Speaker 1: It is actually backloaded.
Speaker 5: I don't think he gets to that third year anyways,
Speaker 5: And that guaranteed money would be second among all wide receivers,
Speaker 5: only behind Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 1: Now the cap goes up.
Speaker 5: Our friend Justin Graver and Titans fans are in their
Speaker 5: feelings of people criticizing this move immediately pointed out off
Speaker 5: a tweet I wrote of like, well that the percentage
Speaker 5: of the cap is a lot less, and it's you know,
Speaker 5: it's a lot if you average out what AJ Brown's
Speaker 5: contract actually would have been now like that, that's a
Speaker 5: bigger percentage of the cap from when it was signed.
Speaker 5: It's like, and all these Titans fans who are all
Speaker 5: comparing it, and it's like, yeah, this is gonna look
Speaker 5: like a bargain when I signs and Higgins signs and
Speaker 5: and all these top players, and my thing is like, yeah,
Speaker 5: but really is not anywhere close to the category of
Speaker 5: those players.
Speaker 6: That that's our point. That's like, yeah, of course AJ
Speaker 6: Brown takes.
Speaker 5: Up a bigger percentage of the cap, although he got
Speaker 5: less guaranteed money, which again is a little crazy. Ridley's
Speaker 5: just like a good player that's getting paid as a
Speaker 5: great player, which is how teams historically have gotten into
Speaker 5: trouble in free agency.
Speaker 1: And he's not.
Speaker 5: He's not a young player anymore either. He's twenty nine.
Speaker 5: He's a little inconsistent.
Speaker 3: He's like an older version with a little more, you know,
Speaker 3: background than Christian Kirk. Like remember a few years ago
Speaker 3: when everybody was getting nineteen millionaire at the time, and
Speaker 3: that was that and it did so like you can
Speaker 3: look at it that way is and if he listened,
Speaker 3: if he has one hundred catches next year and thirteen
Speaker 3: hundred yards and eight touchdowns, that's fine.
Speaker 1: But you need him to be that guy.
Speaker 3: And he hasn't really, other than very early in his career,
Speaker 3: been on a trajectory.
Speaker 1: As like a star slash superstar player. But I don't
Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to. I don't want to.
Speaker 1: So many guess on the surface.
Speaker 3: So you're saying, are the Titans, at least on paper
Speaker 3: better than they were four days ago?
Speaker 1: I think so? Is Will Levis the guy?
Speaker 3: I have some doubts about that too, But they're at
Speaker 3: least giving him a chance and a corps around him.
Speaker 4: And we'll see what happened.
Speaker 1: I do wonder if they had to pay what they paid,
Speaker 1: because along with the Jaguars, the Patriots were talked about
Speaker 1: is looking after Ridley as well. There's maybe some sort
Speaker 1: of a bidding war behind the scenes where you're having
Speaker 1: to pay this money. Now.
Speaker 5: I don't want to get all Aaron Rodgers here, but
Speaker 5: I do have a conspiracy on all this go ahead
Speaker 5: that no one's been reporting out there so or that
Speaker 5: you heard.
Speaker 3: From no one's reporting yousiracy theories. No, it's just in
Speaker 3: my head.
Speaker 5: Yes, at no point did we ever hear the Titans
Speaker 5: were in the mix.
Speaker 1: It was a little strange.
Speaker 5: It was like hardcore seventeen different inside Patriots, Patriots, Patriots, Jaguars, Jaguars,
Speaker 5: blah blah.
Speaker 1: He wants to see with the Jaguars.
Speaker 5: My conspiracy theory is he maybe had a little bit
Speaker 5: of a wink wink not not agreement with the Jaguars
Speaker 5: that he wasn't going to sign until after that Wednesday
Speaker 5: to help them with the draft picks in general. But
Speaker 5: all along the Titans had this offer there and they
Speaker 5: were probably the favorite. And again he's just doing the
Speaker 5: Jaguars a favor by basically waiting till Wednesday and then
Speaker 5: they get the better draft pick. I don't believe that
Speaker 5: they just suddenly came into the mix in the last
Speaker 5: second and then blew everyone.
Speaker 6: Out of the water with a with a huge offer.
Speaker 5: And Jacksonville fans, and this is to Calvin Ridley's credit,
Speaker 5: are mad. Even though they weren't too happy with him
Speaker 5: during the year when he ran a lot of weird
Speaker 5: routes and had a lot of drops, the Jaguars did
Speaker 5: really want him and the only reason that they couldn't
Speaker 5: keep was because they had to use the tag on
Speaker 5: Josh Allen, which they should have signed him to a
Speaker 5: long term deal before.
Speaker 1: So little but that that also, that seems very plausible.
Speaker 1: But that also tells you that even more of a
Speaker 1: fraudulent entity. Is this like legal tamp Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 1: part because it's like this stuff I've been going on
Speaker 1: long before, you know, the legal tampering window opened so wide.
Speaker 5: Please take you had a wild free agent spears. But
Speaker 5: I'll put a pin in that we can talk about
Speaker 5: that with Bill.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know if we mentioned Mason Rudolph also signed
Speaker 3: with the team, so he will back up will Levis
Speaker 3: and like Garden Minshew, I think that's a good spot
Speaker 3: for Rudolph because I think there's an opportunity to play
Speaker 3: there potential.
Speaker 6: It's on the side of the league before those last
Speaker 6: couple of starts.
Speaker 3: Isn't it ironic that when he did close the season
Speaker 3: well or at least better than Kenny Pickett and finally
Speaker 3: played at a pretty solid level for the Steelers and
Speaker 3: then they get rid of them finally, Like I.
Speaker 1: Am happy to see him not on the Steelers.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm certainly not like vouching for him staying
Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh, but just the way where it felt like
Speaker 3: he was on the team for fourteen years and did
Speaker 3: nothing right then finally did a little bit of something.
Speaker 1: They're like now young he appeared in four games.
Speaker 5: If it had qualified, he would have been third in
Speaker 5: the NFL in QBR it will stop long be forgotten.
Speaker 1: Do we really need that statute make Mason Rudolph last time?
Speaker 5: And I had to check this on Pro Football Reference
Speaker 5: right now just to make sure he wasn't good even
Speaker 5: though it was only two months ago. No that Mason
Speaker 5: Rudolph started a playoff game in the year twenty twenty
Speaker 5: four he was in the the NFL started the playoffs,
Speaker 5: all the team's got to choose their starting quarter Mason
Speaker 5: Rudolph was one of those quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Put it this way, one of the more low wattage playoffs.
Speaker 3: I can't even Rudolph throwing for nine hundred and forty
Speaker 3: five yards, five touchdowns and two picks in his final
Speaker 3: four games has a real hearty whiff of Desmond Rinder's
Speaker 3: last four games in Atlanta and people being.
Speaker 1: Like, hey, he's pretty good. He's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Actually, speaking of Desmond Rinner, the former Falcons starting quarterback
Speaker 3: is on the mood move. He was traded. How about this,
Speaker 3: Rondell Moore upon a second round pick, I believe, once
Speaker 3: upon a time.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.
Speaker 3: So the Cardinals send Rondell Moore, their former second round pick,
Speaker 3: to the Falcons for Ritter So a one for one swap.
Speaker 3: Love these It's fun, you know, it's like old school
Speaker 3: player for player. So the Cards get a new backup
Speaker 3: and the Falcons at another wide receiver.
Speaker 1: I think the Falcons and I know they're going to
Speaker 1: be like the sexy NFC South pick, and they should
Speaker 1: be like, this is another team that has like recrafted
Speaker 1: their offense from the couple of offseasons, Like you have
Speaker 1: Drake London, Darnell Mooney, I like him as in your
Speaker 1: wide receiver group, Rondel Moore, Cadarl Hodge, who's more helpful
Speaker 1: than I think people realize. Then maybe you've got Kyle
Speaker 1: Pitts finally emerging b John Robinson like and Kirk Cousins like.
Speaker 1: This offense on paper looks dangerous by the way.
Speaker 3: I'm so fantasy drafts aren't for months, but I am
Speaker 3: one of the many, many thousands who will be back
Speaker 3: in on Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 1: But it feels like a shaky fantasy situation the Falcons general,
Speaker 1: because who's I'm not going to a lot of people
Speaker 1: to like.
Speaker 3: I was in on him in year one and year two,
Speaker 3: I took year three off and I'm all the way
Speaker 3: back in.
Speaker 1: Then we know what happens with you. Then he doesn't perform,
Speaker 1: and then you write him off as a person as
Speaker 1: a man.
Speaker 5: I'm sort of in on this, Like Kyle Pitts says,
Speaker 5: this ide don't cost me. That is not a reality
Speaker 5: that like if Kyle Pitts was who we thought Kyle
Speaker 5: Pitts was, Like I think we would know more by now.
Speaker 5: I don't think he's as explosive as as he looked
Speaker 5: through some injuries, and he had some injuries. It's like
Speaker 5: every but I mean everything on Arthur Smith and Ritter
Speaker 5: I think is a little too simple. It's pretty rare
Speaker 5: that you have a challenge trade these. These are both
Speaker 5: players that were a little disappointing I think to their
Speaker 5: their team.
Speaker 1: Ritter, I mean more than a little. But he was
Speaker 1: a third round pick.
Speaker 5: Like if he turns into a decent backup quarterback, like
Speaker 5: that's what you kind of expect that of a third
Speaker 5: round pick. His coach fire more more can make people miss.
Speaker 5: He is now the third wide receiver on the Falcons
Speaker 5: roster that has caught a pass in the NFL in
Speaker 5: the last three years.
Speaker 6: So like they they only had two.
Speaker 5: They only had one before Darnell Mooney and then they
Speaker 5: had two and now they have three.
Speaker 3: So they needed to progress. Yes, let's take a break
Speaker 3: and then we will continue onward. Right, the Chargers making moves,
Speaker 3: they say goodbye, and this one. You know, as a team,
Speaker 3: I follow a team that needs wide receiver help and
Speaker 3: maybe a playmaker that could stretch the defense. Mike Williams
Speaker 3: is on the market. The Chargers release Williams. That Bolts
Speaker 3: pushed a lot of pain into this offseason with some
Speaker 3: restructures last year, and now they have to pay the bill.
Speaker 4: And that's why Mike Williams is no longer on the team.
Speaker 3: And that comes after he signed a three year, sixty
Speaker 3: million contract, sixty million dollars contract after twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3: He was having an awesome start to last season before
Speaker 3: he tore his ACL And of course, Mark injuries and
Speaker 3: Mike Williams, they are no strangers. So any team that
Speaker 3: does sign up, I'm very curious to see what his
Speaker 3: market is. I think there'll be a lot of teams
Speaker 3: interested in him, but how much money he gets considering
Speaker 3: his injury history. But he's still pretty young guy too.
Speaker 3: I think he's sneaky young. Yeah, but maybe his body
Speaker 3: sneaky old will be an interesting test in free agent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is like he's a juicy free agent wide
Speaker 1: out sitting out there. But it is like how many
Speaker 1: games you're gonna get ot him year after year? And
Speaker 1: I know this team's gonna look so different. But when
Speaker 1: Mike Williams was not on the field for the Chargers,
Speaker 1: during this, justin Herbert era, they looked a lot different,
Speaker 1: Like I think he certainly made defenses have to pay
Speaker 1: attention to him. Now they're down to Keenan Allen, Josh Palmer,
Speaker 1: and Quentin Johnson. I think Quentin Johnson's got a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure on him to be what they thought he
Speaker 1: could be.
Speaker 3: At this point, I think like ARPA is kind of
Speaker 3: stripping it down a little bit and he's going to
Speaker 3: be this year. You know, we'll see what happens this year.
Speaker 3: But this I think this whole thing is starting to
Speaker 3: be built, you know, stripped down to build back up.
Speaker 1: But Gus Edwards, what do they call it? A controlled rebuild?
Speaker 1: Is that what they call him? Something like that? I mean,
Speaker 1: you could call it makes sense whatever you want.
Speaker 4: No, I'm saying I feel like that's a term that's
Speaker 4: out there.
Speaker 5: I am not sure because some of the reporting around
Speaker 5: this right when it happened was they actually would maybe
Speaker 5: try to get him back at a lower price, and
Speaker 5: so they also renegotiated a deal for Khalil Mack.
Speaker 1: To keep them. And then there's these and Joey Bosa
Speaker 1: is that has that happened? Well, they're working on his
Speaker 1: he's restructuring his deal too. He's a controlled But I
Speaker 1: know that Greg was was working behind the scenes because
Speaker 1: yesterday when we were deciding, like is there enough to
Speaker 1: do a show or Greg kept being like, I think
Speaker 1: there's gonna be big Chargers moves. I'm like, eight minutes later,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure some big Chargers moves are coming in there.
Speaker 1: At all.
Speaker 5: It was obvious they had like the four. Everyone was
Speaker 5: reporting that for weeks. That's something had to have. But
Speaker 5: it just was like, you broke that BOSA news. To me,
Speaker 5: I gotta admit is here. Yeah, well that he restructured
Speaker 5: it to stay, So what do you mean you have
Speaker 5: to admit that's what I do? I operate in the
Speaker 5: news saying I have to admit that I was a
Speaker 5: little off the grid on the way I ate a
Speaker 5: little lunch.
Speaker 1: I missed that.
Speaker 3: You get do you really get beat on aggregating news,
Speaker 3: like when you're not actually a reporter, you're saying he
Speaker 3: beats you on that.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he beat I'm saying I entered the
Speaker 1: show that I actually was productive nothing with Mark. I'm
Speaker 1: saying the insider Mark Sessler, I.
Speaker 5: Entered the show without a key bit of information related
Speaker 5: unlike something, and I don't feel good about it.
Speaker 1: I guess who was there for you?
Speaker 5: I'm surprised, Mark, I mean who was there for the
Speaker 5: freaking listeners of the Around the NFL podcast that I'm
Speaker 5: actually very surprised by that that Bosa's staying considering how
Speaker 5: little he's played. But Mike Williams, would you rather have
Speaker 5: him or Calvin Ridley?
Speaker 1: You know, Ridley if they're healthy, Mike Williams, if they're healthy,
Speaker 1: Mike Williams.
Speaker 5: I put Mike Williams is number twelve now in the
Speaker 5: new one on one, which is confusing because half the
Speaker 5: people about this, it's like I'm put ranking against people
Speaker 5: that are already signed.
Speaker 6: But to me, he's never an ex receiver, a true
Speaker 6: difference maker.
Speaker 3: When he's out there coming off an a cl he
Speaker 3: might have to sign a prove it deal. But let's
Speaker 3: say he gets a Fugeesi deals. Let's say you know,
Speaker 3: it's a three year deal or four years, but it's
Speaker 3: really two year deal. So two for fifty for Ridley
Speaker 3: or two for thirty five for Mike Williams.
Speaker 1: Give me Mike Williams.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, And if I had to guess I'm gonna
Speaker 5: go one for fourteen is like I think so too,
Speaker 5: something like I'd be but you, Joe d I would
Speaker 5: be all over that, especially if you're a team in
Speaker 5: a win now window.
Speaker 1: You take a check. We have prediction it's coming up later,
Speaker 1: I believe in the show with Bill Barnwell and I
Speaker 1: have a prediction of tied to Mike Williams. Great, okay,
Speaker 1: so we'll just move on. So if you're listening, just
Speaker 1: fast forward to this.
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, Joe Flacco got a job. We were
Speaker 3: just talking about Joe Flacco last show. I was trying
Speaker 3: to wrap my head around why you would ever sign
Speaker 3: Jameis Winston in general, but to sign him to replace
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco, who is one of the great stories of
Speaker 3: the NFL season as Deshaun Watson's backup took the Browns
Speaker 3: to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: The brown say bye bye.
Speaker 3: So Flacco needs a job and he lands with the
Speaker 3: Cults a one year, eight point seven million dollar contract.
Speaker 3: How much of that all right in four point five
Speaker 3: is guaranteed? According to Schefty and a good listen A
Speaker 3: nice landing spot for Flacco. He is backing up a
Speaker 3: second year quarterback who is a top five draft pick.
Speaker 3: So unless Anthony Richardson gets injured again, Joe's not going
Speaker 3: to see the field. I kind of want to see
Speaker 3: Joe take the field again, but I also want to
Speaker 3: see Anthony Richardson stay on the field this year. So
Speaker 3: if anybody was like invested in the arc of this
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco end of his career renaissance, this could end
Speaker 3: up be something that puts them in mothballs.
Speaker 4: But good for him. He's in the league and he's
Speaker 4: still making millions of dollars.
Speaker 5: I just like that Anthony Richardson is a Shane Stiken quarterback,
Speaker 5: and Joe Flacco is a Shane Stiken quarterback, and Gardner
Speaker 5: Minshew is a Shine Steaken quarterback.
Speaker 6: Like, get you a coach that could do both.
Speaker 5: It's like, okay, let's just get the guy that's exactly
Speaker 5: the same as the backup. No, like we've seen Shane
Speaker 5: Stike and work it with Nick Foles to the tune
Speaker 5: of one of the greatest Super Bowl performances of all time.
Speaker 5: He was on the staff somewhere, wasn't he.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Flaco will be the starter though.
Speaker 5: During some of the off season, while Richardson recovers from
Speaker 5: a torn aco and yeah, you would think he probably
Speaker 5: will end up taking some snaps this year just because Richardson,
Speaker 5: you know, had multiple injuries in those.
Speaker 1: Well and Richardson had concussion issues. And it's like the
Speaker 1: way that he plays, you just have to wonder, like
Speaker 1: it's kind of a wild man in the in that
Speaker 1: month that he played, it really was. It's so important
Speaker 1: to have backup. Yeah, I think we could see Flacco,
Speaker 1: I'd say from the Browns perspective, And I mentioned the
Speaker 1: other day, like they're operating in fear like this, it
Speaker 1: would it was. It was too much of a distraction
Speaker 1: to have, like a fan favored to merge behind the
Speaker 1: quarterback who's the worst free agent.
Speaker 5: It wasn't about his base salary is basically the same
Speaker 5: as Winston got a little.
Speaker 1: He was too popular and like, I don't I think
Speaker 1: that's just another chapter in a team stuck in a
Speaker 1: very dark situation at under center.
Speaker 3: They might say, they might say that Flacco is potentially
Speaker 3: a fluco If you ask them why they did it,
Speaker 3: they'd say, yeah.
Speaker 1: Winston, it's not it's not like you you have an
Speaker 1: absolute I know Greg is hired than jameis Winston than some,
Speaker 1: but it's like, right, Jameis Winston is about as hot
Speaker 1: and cold as it gets.
Speaker 3: Right, but his play was at such a high level
Speaker 3: right that they say maybe more of a fluco.
Speaker 1: I know, but it's it's like, I know where you're going.
Speaker 6: I think, I think what you're bit of a story is.
Speaker 5: Dans seven, forty fifth ranked bit Flaco Fluco over the
Speaker 5: last ten years is having quite a renaisson.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 3: I'm going to try to do the bit and Mark
Speaker 3: keeps on debating me.
Speaker 1: I know, but it's like whenever, whenever, whenever we go
Speaker 1: down Jets Avenue and you go, you go, you spin
Speaker 1: the yarn about how everyone's against the Jets, and it's
Speaker 1: always constant jokes and get like, this is my this
Speaker 1: is my so called right and this is what I
Speaker 1: liked about my team last week and they got rid
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 5: But what he's saying, though, is like he got that
Speaker 5: comeback player of the year a war ahead.
Speaker 1: He deserved it. But he could be a fluco. It
Speaker 1: could be a bit of a pluco. I mean, I
Speaker 1: get it. Am I supposed to find it as funny
Speaker 1: as the two of you at the moment, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the apex of comedy.
Speaker 3: Bobby Wagner his homecoming with the Seahawks was brief after
Speaker 3: one season. And we have a middle school watching us
Speaker 3: right now, so played at a high level. I just
Speaker 3: don't look outside the fish pay.
Speaker 1: I can't help it. And they're all taking photos and stuff.
Speaker 1: They're outside the windows. He goes to that place.
Speaker 3: Washington Man, the commander's been active, created terms with Bobby Wagner,
Speaker 3: formerly the Seahawks and before that the Rams, and before
Speaker 3: that the Seahawks on a one year deal, six million
Speaker 3: guaranteed money worth up to eight and a half. So
Speaker 3: they go a veteran hammer in the middle of that defense.
Speaker 3: And Greg dare I say, at the risk of offending you,
Speaker 3: future Hall of Famer, I.
Speaker 5: Think that's a safe one. You're not gonna defend me
Speaker 5: on that one.
Speaker 3: Phew, all right, other news anything on that nice solid signing.
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn has added a lot. They've added a lot
Speaker 1: of players to a defense that's gonna look.
Speaker 5: For Their price is different, and I mean they weren't.
Speaker 5: They aren't making long term commitments with most of their players.
Speaker 5: They've been as active as any team. I kind of
Speaker 5: like that. It forty nine Ers fans have pointed out
Speaker 5: it's a little similar to what the forty nine ers
Speaker 5: did when Shana Hammett showed up there. Just like he's
Speaker 5: the base level with a bunch of professionals for a
Speaker 5: year or two while you start figuring out who are
Speaker 5: the core guys.
Speaker 3: The Lines announced four year contract extensions for Jim Brad
Speaker 3: Holmes and head coach Dan Campbell.
Speaker 1: That's a no brainer.
Speaker 3: And finally before we take a break, and then we're
Speaker 3: gonna welcome in Bill Barnwell.
Speaker 1: I've got controlled fury. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Dan kirk Cousins was officially introduced as the quarterback of
Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcons, and he looking sharp in his suit
Speaker 3: in the Falcons call.
Speaker 1: I feel like we all slept on a couple of things.
Speaker 1: You know, you had.
Speaker 3: Florio getting into it with people in the media because
Speaker 3: he had a source that said that Kirk was doing
Speaker 3: some real estate shopping in Atlanta. But he also what
Speaker 3: I read after the signing, I didn't know this. I
Speaker 3: guess this is probably out there too, that his wife's
Speaker 3: from there. Yeah, we got married. There was born there podcast.
Speaker 3: I maybe missed that show, or maybe I wasn't listening
Speaker 3: to There are a lot of a lot of tea
Speaker 3: leaves there, and he went there. And here's Kirk Cousins
Speaker 3: talking about why he decided to move on from Minnesota.
Speaker 7: In Minnesota, it was trending over the last couple off
Speaker 7: seasons to be in somewhat year to year, and as
Speaker 7: we talked with Atlanta, it felt like this was a
Speaker 7: place where, you know, if I play at the level
Speaker 7: I expect to play, that I can retire a Falcon
Speaker 7: And that was something that really excited me. And that's
Speaker 7: certainly the goal.
Speaker 3: Kirk has also been number eight, I believe his whole career.
Speaker 3: That's Kyle Pitts's number. Here's a fun little waka waka
Speaker 3: conversation about that.
Speaker 7: He was funny about it. I said, I'll write a
Speaker 7: check whatever, you know, foundation what. I'm not going to
Speaker 7: let you just give me the number. I want to
Speaker 7: make it worth your while. But then I make a
Speaker 7: donation whatever needs to be. And he said, I just want,
Speaker 7: you know, targets every game. You know, he said he
Speaker 7: was joking. You know, he kind of winked, so I
Speaker 7: joke at them. I said, good answer, good answers.
Speaker 3: He winked, he winked, I'm telling you, Kyle Pitts, there
Speaker 3: was no joke about that. He's like, you can throw
Speaker 3: it straight right, you could hit in the chest with passes.
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 3: I will give you anything, including the shirt off my back.
Speaker 3: They're gonna say, Kirk Cousins looking sharp in that, and that's.
Speaker 1: Does look good.
Speaker 5: I think you gotta The Falcons have really leaned into
Speaker 5: the whole chains thing, and it's like, I think you
Speaker 5: gotta leave that in Minnesota and come up with your
Speaker 5: own new new stuff. If I'm if I'm the Vikings scene,
Speaker 5: he's bringing the Kirk co Chains things here. It's like
Speaker 5: that was our thing. Come up with something new. He
Speaker 5: did drop a little bit of news though, though, too,
Speaker 5: which has been supported by reporting that the Vikings really
Speaker 5: weren't committing to him long term, in the same way
Speaker 5: that the.
Speaker 4: Fact that there was a even within these negotiations.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they were offering him good money, but
Speaker 5: after the first year it maybe was gonna be a
Speaker 5: little year to year and the Falcons were gonna make
Speaker 5: it two plus. You know, they're really committing two and
Speaker 5: a half, really three years probably to Kirk.
Speaker 1: It does me wondering, like Kevin O'Connell, who on multiple
Speaker 1: occasions came out very strongly saying we believe Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: should be our quarterback. I came here because of him.
Speaker 1: We're working hard to get him back here. And then
Speaker 1: in the end, like all all that's true is the money.
Speaker 1: They weren't Well they yeah not.
Speaker 5: I mean, like like Kevin O'Connell that I think that
Speaker 5: is being pointed out that it's QUESSI.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's that's I don't know, like if you're
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, and I know we're big on Sam Donald,
Speaker 1: but it's like you're you have a challenge a quarterback? Now?
Speaker 1: Is that a royal? Are you? Guys? In? Though I
Speaker 1: don't hate the landing spot for Sam Donald, but I
Speaker 1: think you're talking about someone who's a you know, little
Speaker 1: team of aten vibes do No.
Speaker 5: They save it for Bill, who's been listening to this
Speaker 5: entire segment and tells me over text that he's actually
Speaker 5: talking over our points making.
Speaker 3: All right, so let's take a break because that sounds saucy.
Speaker 3: He might come he might come on mad. We might
Speaker 3: have said something out offended Bill, And now we're gonna
Speaker 3: find that podcasting I hope. So all right, we'll be uh,
Speaker 3: we'll take a break. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: Our next guest.
Speaker 3: Really at this point, he's no introduction, but I'm gonna
Speaker 3: give it to you anyway. ESPN star, podcaster, expert, analyst,
Speaker 3: future general manager. I see it as possibility if he
Speaker 3: wants that path, Bill Barnwell, Bill, what you could do it?
Speaker 2: Future? I'm very skeptical. Uh, there are a lot of
Speaker 2: people I would put ahead of me on the future
Speaker 2: general manager list, including several of the people who was
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 3: Wow, several several, not all. I want to i's a
Speaker 3: gm GM on your team.
Speaker 2: I want you to look in the New York night
Speaker 2: and say, was it me?
Speaker 1: Oh? I'll be thinking about this for probably months, but
Speaker 1: no idea what you did? Mark psych just now.
Speaker 5: He is uh, he is a TV star. He's actually
Speaker 5: between Sports Center hits right now. Hell ya insider information
Speaker 5: and you see him on around the Horn more now
Speaker 5: they're they're using him there since I was out on
Speaker 5: the town like in the afternoon a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 5: and as Mark Sessler oft names well, no, just like
Speaker 5: I up up on the television, you know, for all
Speaker 5: the place to see was Bill Barnwell like chopping it up,
Speaker 5: but of course no sound and then they don't put
Speaker 5: the closed captions, so that's a that's a problem.
Speaker 1: I spoke to management about that.
Speaker 2: I I I try to be so eloquent and so
Speaker 2: overly verbose or so underleaverbos. Maybe that you can read
Speaker 2: my lips even if you're.
Speaker 1: Not as service to the to the viewer.
Speaker 3: You did you anything in our news segment that you
Speaker 3: jumped on and you're getting set up that offended you.
Speaker 4: We seem to be getting yeah, yeah, yes.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, multiple things.
Speaker 1: Wait or what else? No, I would I.
Speaker 2: Would have just watched the show. That would have been
Speaker 2: frankly my dream of you just be to watch the
Speaker 2: show from from behind the door, not have to come
Speaker 2: up with original thoughts and just be like, yeah, I contributed.
Speaker 2: I was a part of that show. I just never
Speaker 2: got I was like, you know, the guy at the
Speaker 2: All Star Game, we never got to play still an
Speaker 2: All Star just because I've been got on the field
Speaker 2: does not matter any things I want.
Speaker 1: To ask you, Yeah, go ahead, let's get going.
Speaker 2: Number one, the idea that Kirk Cousins needs to leave
Speaker 2: the Kirko chains in Minneapolis, not saying you're wrong necessarily.
Speaker 2: But it's not like Kirk left you like that in Washington,
Speaker 2: like he brought that to Minnesota. And I think as
Speaker 2: someone who does not have a lot of bits, like
Speaker 2: Kirk has like two or three things. And that's it.
Speaker 2: The things you know about Kirk Cousins the chains, we
Speaker 2: know you like that, and that he does not know
Speaker 2: how to grow food. Those three things he has to
Speaker 2: bring from stop to stop because he doesn't have anything else.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 3: That's like the you don't abandon the bits, yeah, like
Speaker 3: the like the Dad certain dad bits like if you
Speaker 3: leave your keys behind and then Dad's like, hey, you're
Speaker 3: not going to get too far without these, like he
Speaker 3: needs to have, you know, some of his greatest.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's the fact that social media giving me a
Speaker 5: shirt list Kirko chains this morning with the caption woke
Speaker 5: up Drippin'. It's just like, okay, well, these social media
Speaker 5: handles need to so I was last year, and to
Speaker 5: Kirk's credit, he pointed out, the chains aren't going to
Speaker 5: be so cute if we're not winning winning games. So
Speaker 5: if he actually looks like a thirty six year old
Speaker 5: coming off with torn achilles, then then the bits are
Speaker 5: gonna die, all right.
Speaker 3: So what we're gonna do is we're gonna and unless
Speaker 3: there was another thing, yeah, oh wow, keep going, let's go,
Speaker 3: let's chop it up, let's figure things out.
Speaker 2: The universal Sam Donald love. I wanted to make it
Speaker 2: clear that even though I am a guest and respect
Speaker 2: the opinions of the around the NFL broadcasters in the
Speaker 2: round the NFL Show.
Speaker 3: I do not want to be included as one of
Speaker 3: you want to be excluded from that narrative, Taylors very much.
Speaker 2: I am on the other side of this line. History
Speaker 2: will proof be right?
Speaker 1: You know what's good about that?
Speaker 3: Because I am I don't know if you know, Bill
Speaker 3: very much on the other side with you know, your
Speaker 3: colleague and friend Mina chimes, amongst others, that I think
Speaker 3: it's good because I don't need what The one thing
Speaker 3: that Sam Donald Hive doesn't need is it to become
Speaker 3: a tidal wave of everyone expecting.
Speaker 1: Him to be good.
Speaker 3: We still need dominate voices like Barnwell, like Rosenthal, like
Speaker 3: the cestags. You're wondering if I was gonna leave you
Speaker 3: out saying no, he sucks, because that will make it
Speaker 3: all the sweeter.
Speaker 4: So that is great news. No issue here, No issue here.
Speaker 2: I agree. There's a lot of times where like people
Speaker 2: will like the Lions. For example, there were no Lions
Speaker 2: haters the last couple of years. Everyone thought the Lions
Speaker 2: were going to get better. Everyone was excited about what
Speaker 2: they were doing. Like I think that there's like this
Speaker 2: like false hater thing that comes up and people like,
Speaker 2: no one believed in us. Like no, everyone believed in
Speaker 2: you to get better. Maybe you exceeded expectations, which good
Speaker 2: for you, but everyone thought you were going to be better.
Speaker 2: Everyone thought you did a lot to improve. Nobody was like,
Speaker 2: this team's going to be terrible. So I feel like
Speaker 2: you want to have some actual haters to just just
Speaker 2: make your point, make it feel a little a little
Speaker 2: more valid.
Speaker 3: Will you are in fine form, I could tell, like
Speaker 3: us even doing a lot of podcasts this week on appearances,
Speaker 3: you should check out the Bill Barnwell podcast in addition
Speaker 3: to this show, and you'll be all caught up. So
Speaker 3: let's get into some categories. I know you did some
Speaker 3: superlatives on your show. This will be slightly different but
Speaker 3: kind of the same. Oh maybe we'll make it different.
Speaker 3: That's different. Humans talking about football. Yeah, and I'll start
Speaker 3: with the move that made the biggest impact. And the
Speaker 3: reason I want to start with that one is because
Speaker 3: I'll take the easy one, because I think Kirk Cousins
Speaker 3: is that pick for me because of obviously the position
Speaker 3: he plays, but also the recent history of the Falcons.
Speaker 3: And I don't even really need to dig in too
Speaker 3: far because you know how important just having a stabilizing
Speaker 3: force that that position can be for a Falcons team
Speaker 3: that might be ready to make the leap your thoughts
Speaker 3: Bill on the Cousins Falcons fit, and then maybe if
Speaker 3: you want to throw in one of your own biggest impact.
Speaker 2: Guys, I do like the fit. I think the price
Speaker 2: matters when we talk about free agency. I think, you know,
Speaker 2: especially when you get the actual money here. And I
Speaker 2: think great point with this out. I believe on on
Speaker 2: social media it's not that big of a deal. It
Speaker 2: feels big, and it's two garanteed years. But this is
Speaker 2: basically the Daniel Jones deal, but with inflation making up
Speaker 2: most of the difference. Daniel Jones got eighty two million
Speaker 2: dollars guaranteed. With inflation from the cap, that's up to
Speaker 2: ninety three million over two years, Kirk got a hundred.
Speaker 2: I don't think that is an exorbitant amount for a
Speaker 2: player who was I mean, what top ten would you
Speaker 2: guys say last year before I got hurt in terms
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks around the league, lower half of the top
Speaker 2: ten for sure, like nine to ten. Yeah, sure, that's
Speaker 2: that's a good deal to me that. I think that's
Speaker 2: a really solid price for a quarterback who, even if
Speaker 2: he's coming off the Achilles, he's not a moble quarterback anyway.
Speaker 2: I don't think you're gonna be asking him to run
Speaker 2: around a lot. A player who had a great injury
Speaker 2: history before suffering the Achilles, had not even been on
Speaker 2: the injury report for many years before suffering that injury
Speaker 2: last year. I like the fit in Zach Robinson's offense.
Speaker 2: I think the personnel they've added not only they had
Speaker 2: in place, but also the guys they've added over the
Speaker 2: past two days. Donald Mooney they trade for Ron dall
Speaker 2: Moore today, I think those are exciting pieces to work with.
Speaker 2: They play indoors again. I you know, maybe he doesn't
Speaker 2: give you the ceiling you're looking for. Maybe you don't
Speaker 2: get the you know, the the rookie quarterback ceiling. But
Speaker 2: I think if their goal is to win the NFC South,
Speaker 2: this was a logical move.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think so too.
Speaker 5: I just think people have this idea that they're just
Speaker 5: like this ready made team and it's a totally different
Speaker 5: coaching staff. People often like project forward of like how
Speaker 5: is this offensive line going to be? For instance, it
Speaker 5: actually was pretty disappointing last year. It's one of the
Speaker 5: reasons I think they fell shure, how is their defense
Speaker 5: going to be? Some of the numbers look pretty good
Speaker 5: for the Falcons, but Dvoa they were twenty fourth because
Speaker 5: they played such an easy schedule that was artificially inflating.
Speaker 5: You look at their defense, the front sevens, you know,
Speaker 5: especially the edge rushing positions, pretty lackluster. So it helps
Speaker 5: their they look like the best team in that division.
Speaker 5: But that's doing a lot of the work here. If
Speaker 5: you're just lining up like who's got the best roster
Speaker 5: in the NFC, they're right in the middle, and they
Speaker 5: might be behind the Minnesota Ike. So it's like, I
Speaker 5: don't think there's some great ready made team there, just
Speaker 5: in a bad division.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we'll take that, like play play the car,
Speaker 2: play play it as it lays you are not going
Speaker 2: to be stuck in the you know, in the NFC
Speaker 2: West anytime soon. And you're an owner who's in his eighties.
Speaker 2: You have a roster that's not one of the younger
Speaker 2: rosters in football, especially after all the free agent signings
Speaker 2: they made last year on defense. Like you, if you
Speaker 2: want to go win ten eleven games, I think Kirk
Speaker 2: can do that for.
Speaker 3: Your biggest impact for you other or maybe it is
Speaker 3: Cousins or is it someone else?
Speaker 2: I would say cousins, but I'm trying to think of
Speaker 2: a second person. And if you could hear me trying
Speaker 2: to stall, we could give it too.
Speaker 1: You don't have to force another impact.
Speaker 2: No, No, because I think I think there's a conversation
Speaker 2: to be had here. What about Sequon Barkley?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Should Should we have the Saquon Barkley conversation? Because I
Speaker 2: think it implies a couple of things. Number one, there's
Speaker 2: the economic impact of Okay, we have found the point
Speaker 2: where even teams like the Eagles were not typically investing
Speaker 2: in running backs, are willing to go out and pay
Speaker 2: for a premium running back. We saw that price tag
Speaker 2: make sense. He's getting less than Gabe Davis which at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, like I have to believe,
Speaker 2: if you polled thirty two NFL diferens of coordinators and said,
Speaker 2: are you more worried about Gabe Davis or Saquon Barkley,
Speaker 2: you know if you're playing the next week, I have
Speaker 2: to imagine most of them would say Saquon Barkley. And
Speaker 2: I think it raises this really fascinating question about what
Speaker 2: this Eagles offense is going to look like. Host Jason
Speaker 2: Kelsey retiring and after they've now hired Kellen Moore to
Speaker 2: be the offensive coordinator, are they going to be a
Speaker 2: team that throws to the running back more the way
Speaker 2: Morris offenses did with Tony Pollard and Austin because they
Speaker 2: didn't do that much over the past couple years. Jaalen
Speaker 2: Hurts Is Jalen Hurt's going to run less? Is he
Speaker 2: going to be less a part of the designated running
Speaker 2: back or quarterback running game? Is he going to be
Speaker 2: the guy who was the tushbush. Are they gonna put
Speaker 2: Saquon in the tush push spot? I think is a
Speaker 2: viable possibility. I think there's all these different questions about
Speaker 2: what Squon is going to do in that offense, and
Speaker 2: it may work out that he's just a typical running back.
Speaker 2: He gets thirty catches a year, and that's a pretty
Speaker 2: boring answer, but I think there's a lot of exciting
Speaker 2: possibilities for how the Eagles offense could evolve with Kellen
Speaker 2: Moore and now with a different focal point in Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 1: I love the fit. I'm with you. I think that
Speaker 1: you know, if you look at Saquon Barkley, a durability
Speaker 1: was an issue in New York, but also the cast
Speaker 1: around him and the quarterbacks durability, and the wide out
Speaker 1: s durability, and the tight ends durability in the offensive
Speaker 1: line being a shambles. Like He's in a much better spot,
Speaker 1: and I think the Eagles have found a way, even
Speaker 1: though their season ended in total chaos, to kind of
Speaker 1: flip the switch a little bit where some of that
Speaker 1: goes away. And I think Saquon Barkley is like a
Speaker 1: new face who, like You're right, It changes the versatility
Speaker 1: of what the offense can do. And I feel a
Speaker 1: little bit different about the Eagles and him going to
Speaker 1: another place I wouldn't have been big on. I like
Speaker 1: it in Philadelphia for the NFC East rivalry side of
Speaker 1: it too.
Speaker 5: I absolutely do too, because I think my answer for
Speaker 5: biggest impact a lot of the options would be on
Speaker 5: the Eagles. I think Bryce Huff for them is going
Speaker 5: to be perfect. I think Chauncey Gardner Johnson is in
Speaker 5: that secondary. It just absolutely needed something. I think that
Speaker 5: is a sort of an undervalued position, having that versatility
Speaker 5: where you can play slot, you can play safety, and
Speaker 5: they absolutely needed someone back there and they know what
Speaker 5: they're getting in Chauncey Gardner Johnson. Like I look at
Speaker 5: a lot of the moves this week, and a lot
Speaker 5: of my favorite moves are the Philadelphia Eagles getting I'm
Speaker 5: back in. Everybody's back in on the Eagles. How about
Speaker 5: this pivot? Here's my yes, go ahead, here's my question
Speaker 5: about the Eagles. This is the only part that worries
Speaker 5: me about the Eagles in Chauncey Gardner Johnson. So they
Speaker 5: could have signed him to a multi year deal last year,
Speaker 5: did not do it. He misses the entire season basically
Speaker 5: because of injury, and now they want to bring him
Speaker 5: back on a multi year deal. Does that seem a
Speaker 5: little worrisome to you? Maybe they're just trying to erase
Speaker 5: what happened last year and just bring back, you know,
Speaker 5: try to like just bring back the twenty twenty two
Speaker 5: team at all costs. I think he just had a
Speaker 5: certain number that he wanted to reach last year and
Speaker 5: no one gave it to him. And the reporting was
Speaker 5: just that they were going to spend that money somewhere.
Speaker 5: But it's the first few hours of free agency. He
Speaker 5: wasn't taking it, and they pivoted to Bradbury and that
Speaker 5: turned to be a disastrous contract. They were not expecting
Speaker 5: to keep Bradbury or pay him that much money, and
Speaker 5: then Chohnzi Garner Johnson got left out in the cold.
Speaker 6: I mean, he kind of did this year too.
Speaker 5: None of these safeties got paid like monster money, but
Speaker 5: he did better.
Speaker 1: I like it better than the relationship between Chauncey Gardner
Speaker 1: and Dennis Allen, which was one of the funnier subplots
Speaker 1: in the NFC a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: Somebody I'm looking for it on Twitter. Somebody sent it
Speaker 3: to me. We've been talking. It's come up a couple
Speaker 3: of times on the show's shows this week that the
Speaker 3: idea of being careful with your friend that breaks up
Speaker 3: with the girl and then you say something bad about
Speaker 3: the girl and then the friend gets back with the girl.
Speaker 4: Yeah, troubled.
Speaker 3: Apparently on the way out the door, Gardner Johnson buried
Speaker 3: the city of Philadelphia and their fans.
Speaker 4: That's a tricky one.
Speaker 5: I think he's I think he sent some tweets out
Speaker 5: to make up like the worst.
Speaker 3: Part of playing there were the fans, Well, welcome back.
Speaker 3: If I could find that quote out, I'll do it.
Speaker 3: Pivot Greggy, what is the move where you were scratching
Speaker 3: your head like, come in?
Speaker 1: What? All right? Titans fans aren't gonna love this.
Speaker 5: But they made a couple just swaps that to me,
Speaker 5: didn't make a lot of sense. One of them was
Speaker 5: as he's alsha, here goes to Houston and they bring
Speaker 5: in Kenneth Murray from the Chargers, which feels like a downgrade,
Speaker 5: and they paid it, paid more money for it. Another
Speaker 5: one was Derek Henry leaves the building and you bring
Speaker 5: in Tony Pollard, which is fine. I like Tony Potter,
Speaker 5: so I'm not really killing this one, but it's just
Speaker 5: like a swap. Is this an upgrade again for the
Speaker 5: same amount of money. There's just a lot going on there,
Speaker 5: And if you look at each move. I don't think
Speaker 5: one by one that they were terrible moves by the Titans.
Speaker 5: Like Lloyd Cushionberry gets a lot of money out center,
Speaker 5: but they all screamed to me of a team a
Speaker 5: little bit like the Patriots, although they spent on their
Speaker 5: own guys. It's like at some point you have too
Speaker 5: much gap space and you just feel like you have
Speaker 5: to spend it, and you make marginal upgrades, like they
Speaker 5: went from Aaron Brewer to cushion Berry at Center and
Speaker 5: just spent twice as much money. It's like, historically that's
Speaker 5: bad process and that sort of process doesn't work out.
Speaker 5: So it's more of the Titans process in general. But
Speaker 5: especially that Murray contract seemed bizarre to me because he
Speaker 5: was kind of a fiasco and with the Chargers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had no idea what he was, what that
Speaker 2: market was like. That was going to be my pick
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Whoa, I've got a situation that irks me. Okay, go ahead,
Speaker 1: And it's more about just inactivity and I and I
Speaker 1: you know the way this works. Probably by the time
Speaker 1: people are listening to this, this could change. But the
Speaker 1: Chiefs needed a wide receiver. They needed to look for something,
Speaker 1: and they've added IRV Smith, a you know, largely forgettable
Speaker 1: tight end and nothing else. I know they're restructured the
Speaker 1: Mahome Steel and I think there's that to me suggests
Speaker 1: or hintsat a bigger move to come, and I hope
Speaker 1: it does. But it's like they're the draft is helpful too,
Speaker 1: but their drop position isn't great, Like you need to
Speaker 1: look around for something because you can't get I think
Speaker 1: they will, but it's like they have done nothing yet.
Speaker 1: And yet I speak against myself because I trust no
Speaker 1: team more to kind of figure it figure out their
Speaker 1: own issues. So still players that we just talked about,
Speaker 1: Mike Williams in the news. You know, Odell's out there
Speaker 1: and there's the draft ahead. It could be trades. I'd
Speaker 1: like Mike Williams would be interesting.
Speaker 5: The Bengals ever trade t Higgins to them. I forgot
Speaker 5: the Chiefs, by the way for the Titans. There was
Speaker 5: a contract I liked even less on the Titans, which
Speaker 5: was which we never talked about in the pot, which
Speaker 5: is Chudobi a woozy which I just didn't get because
Speaker 5: he was coming off of torn acl last year and
Speaker 5: struggled pretty badly for the Bengals got benched more or
Speaker 5: less during that stretch run, and they like want to
Speaker 5: establish a veteran culture and they give all this money
Speaker 5: to him, So that's curious.
Speaker 3: During a live stream on Twitch last July, CJ. Gardner
Speaker 3: Johnson was asked about his favorite and least favorite part
Speaker 3: of his time in Philadelphia. Here's a quote, Philadelphia, Colleen
Speaker 3: will this is not me.
Speaker 1: This is the quote.
Speaker 3: My least favorite thing is the people. They're obnoxious. I
Speaker 3: can't stand the mother.
Speaker 1: All the people, not even just the fans.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, is that the right context? Like
Speaker 2: they could that could be like a out of context,
Speaker 2: that could be differently.
Speaker 3: Randy Chavez behind the glass, big funk, can you check
Speaker 3: in on the context?
Speaker 1: That's important. Bill, Bill's a journal at his.
Speaker 5: Heart, ironic may It's like like if the Eagles fans
Speaker 5: read that, wouldn't they recognize one of their own? And
Speaker 5: all like that is someone absolutely, I don't doubt. So
Speaker 5: that is hilarious because yeah, he he tweeted out flying
Speaker 5: home and put an Eagle thing up.
Speaker 1: He I don't think he's addressed these comments, all right?
Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Go ahead, I just have a question. We also find
Speaker 2: out what his favorite thing was. Lea's favorite thing was
Speaker 2: with people. That's a really vague one that.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of them too.
Speaker 5: He does say, I do it with the fans of
Speaker 5: Philly and apology regardless. This is an amazing place and
Speaker 5: we had some memories together. Let's go get us on.
Speaker 3: So we had let bygones be bygones, as they say,
Speaker 3: I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 3: How about this one the Vince Lombardi memorial what the
Speaker 3: Hell's going on around here?
Speaker 1: Bill? For you?
Speaker 3: The signing that really left your trade or whatever that
Speaker 3: left you scratch in your head?
Speaker 2: I would say the vikings with Sam. I don't want
Speaker 2: to have to rehash that though, because I really don't
Speaker 2: understand what's going on there. Maybe can we talk about
Speaker 2: the Raiders and Christian Wilkins, because on one hand it
Speaker 2: makes total sense, and on the other I don't think
Speaker 2: it makes sense. Like from the perspective of we need
Speaker 2: to upgrade this roster, they needed an interior pass rusher,
Speaker 2: and I think that makes total sense. But in the
Speaker 2: big picture, I think they're They think they're a lot
Speaker 2: closer to contention than they actually are. I really think
Speaker 2: they need to take a step backwards on a step forward,
Speaker 2: and kind of feels like they're just making the same
Speaker 2: mistake that twenty years of Raiders teams have done in
Speaker 2: years past. But I don't know, do you guys feel
Speaker 2: like there's a an obvious one that that I'm missing,
Speaker 2: because I feel like that's kind of cheating too.
Speaker 1: Does it strike He was like the Dominican Sue of
Speaker 1: the Dolphins back when that happened and everyone thought that
Speaker 1: Miami was winning the offseason.
Speaker 5: That is a great great Wilkins is a great player,
Speaker 5: and I was surprised he got to free agency in
Speaker 5: the first place.
Speaker 1: It was one of the most surprising things.
Speaker 5: And I do like what they're building winning with defense
Speaker 5: first though. And you get fifty seven million dollars guaranteed
Speaker 5: to a defensive tackle in the same year that you
Speaker 5: signed Gardner Minshew as your presumptive starting quarterback. It's just
Speaker 5: it's weird process. But you know, he was one of
Speaker 5: the best players of AILA.
Speaker 3: I offer my theory on this, I think and this
Speaker 3: is a power of his personality. Culled the personality Antonio
Speaker 3: Pierce has an organization whipped up into an uproar they
Speaker 3: got him puffing out their chess. You heard the comments
Speaker 3: about the Chiefs and can't wait to give him the
Speaker 3: Jordan rules. They go and they they're in. You know,
Speaker 3: Antonio Pierce, a former linebackers like, yeah, give me that
Speaker 3: Max Crosby chess piece to pair with.
Speaker 4: Him, and we're gonna kick some more ass.
Speaker 3: And it's like, bring us in this guy and that guy,
Speaker 3: where even though it makes all the sense in the
Speaker 3: world to trade Devonte Adams and reset for the future,
Speaker 3: we're keeping him because we're the We're gonna, We're gonna
Speaker 3: continue to I think, And I don't think it's necessarily
Speaker 3: a bad thing.
Speaker 1: I think there's something to be said for just positive.
Speaker 3: Vibes and why not they could win nine games next
Speaker 3: year and not and make the playoffs. But at the
Speaker 3: same time, maybe the Pierce and the energy around the
Speaker 3: end of that season and him getting hired is affecting
Speaker 3: more than just where they went ahead.
Speaker 2: Coach, No question, I think that is absolutely what's happening there.
Speaker 2: I'll throw up two more. I'll let you guys decide.
Speaker 2: It's more interesting. I will say the Packers swapping out
Speaker 2: Aaron Jones for Josh Jacobs when I don't know what
Speaker 2: you guys feel. I think Aaron Jones is the better
Speaker 2: running back of the two. And the Patriots where they
Speaker 2: came out this offseason and they said we got money
Speaker 2: to burn. Jered Mayo was excited to spend money, and
Speaker 2: they have kind of just run it back with the
Speaker 2: old Patriots. They have only made too many additions outside
Speaker 2: of what they had previously, so a little intrigued as
Speaker 2: to what their short term plan is.
Speaker 1: I like those guys, I think for me because the Vikings,
Speaker 1: you know, they you know, you move on with Daniel
Speaker 1: Hunter and you replace them with someone else. But it's
Speaker 1: like the Aaron Jones to the Vikings was one of
Speaker 1: my favorite moves, and I couldn't be more with you.
Speaker 1: I'm just not as high on Josh Jacobs as some others.
Speaker 1: Have been really hot and cold season to season, and
Speaker 1: I absolutely think that was a steal from Minnesota and
Speaker 1: Green Bay got worse at running back. I've actually liked
Speaker 1: what the Patriots have done.
Speaker 5: I'm glad you brought that up because I think it's
Speaker 5: almost been a little under the raidar. What a sea
Speaker 5: change it is that Elliott Wolf is running their team
Speaker 5: now and the philosophy that he brings from Green Bay
Speaker 5: is totally different. Even said they're changing their entire scouting
Speaker 5: language that they've had, so everything's going to be different.
Speaker 5: And that's just not a team that goes out there
Speaker 5: and spends crazy. So yes, Jerrod Mayo said that they
Speaker 5: had all this space to spend. I think they wanted to.
Speaker 5: Now look when we got a very competitive, good market,
Speaker 5: those are the types of deals. Actually, I would not
Speaker 5: have expected Bill Belichick to get done. So it did
Speaker 5: feel a little different that these players were coming back
Speaker 5: and then the Uce move just because we haven't hit
Speaker 5: it on this podcast is one of the craziest reported
Speaker 5: stories we've seen. That he literally had eleven million dollars
Speaker 5: guaranteed in a two year contract that he passed on
Speaker 5: for a one year, three million dollar contract with that
Speaker 5: can go up to eight incentives, which is wild. And
Speaker 5: you're seeing some buy in from the defensive players, especially
Speaker 5: on this team, of like maybe what Mayo's gonna do.
Speaker 5: But I thought, I think it's an ultimate bet on
Speaker 5: yourself moment that he's literally taking less money because he
Speaker 5: thinks he's gonna hit those incentives and more importantly, that
Speaker 5: he'll get to free agency next year, people say, like,
Speaker 5: bet on yourself passing on eight million dollars guaranteed, bet
Speaker 5: on yourself. I literally can't remember that happening, especially for
Speaker 5: a second round pick who's probably made what two three
Speaker 5: million dollars total in his entire career. It's almost unprecedented.
Speaker 5: Said now, I'm rooting a little extra for josh Ucci.
Speaker 5: I think it was a good movie. Had twelve and
Speaker 5: a half sacks two years ago.
Speaker 4: Good luck to him.
Speaker 1: Good luck.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if I was his age, I'm serious. Agent wasn't thrilled.
Speaker 1: Does he have an agent? Yescause you could.
Speaker 5: Tell the way Tom p the Pell Raiser, tweeted it out,
Speaker 5: you could tell this is a rare case where a
Speaker 5: player went on their own and made the decision, like
Speaker 5: essentially he went against his agent's advice and did what
Speaker 5: he wanted to. I'm fine with the Patriot like they
Speaker 5: were in on really but they had a number. They
Speaker 5: weren't going to go too high, like what are they
Speaker 5: gonna do?
Speaker 1: Seven and ten?
Speaker 2: We we just we just came off a season where
Speaker 2: we were like, Okay, the Patriots need speed, they need
Speaker 2: they desperately need pieces. Where were their new quarterback's gonna
Speaker 2: be Yeah. The guy they've added is Antonio Gibson. Hmmm,
Speaker 2: I don't know, all right, I don't know.
Speaker 3: A couple more minutes with Billy, I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 3: combine two categories here. So best remaining player in your opinion,
Speaker 3: and let's tie that together with predictions for what's next,
Speaker 3: Bill Barnwell, who's a player that you you you're quite
Speaker 3: fond of that's on the market, uh, and a team
Speaker 3: that should be very interested in going after said player.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's let's go.
Speaker 3: Maybe not even a prediction, Bill, more just like in
Speaker 3: your mind, like what just makes so much sense?
Speaker 2: You know, for you, I'll throw a prediction out there.
Speaker 2: I'll go ahead, not scared, go for it. I'd put
Speaker 2: a team out there. I think a Greek Armstead makes
Speaker 2: a lot of sense, a player who is really talented
Speaker 2: as a free technique San Francisco. It wasn't like he
Speaker 2: wasn't playing well, had some injury issues, but still is
Speaker 2: playing at a high level. I think they had some
Speaker 2: some cap concerns. Maybe they could be a little a
Speaker 2: little less expensive after adding Hargrave on the defensive line,
Speaker 2: Nick Bosa's deal is hitting and that's a significant contracts
Speaker 2: and maybe they're cutting back a bit.
Speaker 5: I put a pin in this for one second, Bill,
Speaker 5: I hate to interrupt you. We actually have developing news
Speaker 5: on the Armstead situation. You are not allowed to look
Speaker 5: at your computer because it sounds like we know where
Speaker 5: he's gonna go.
Speaker 1: If you can.
Speaker 5: Guess what an opportun where he ends up landing. You
Speaker 5: actually win around the NFL podcast twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: You're the like like those shows you're on ESPN. Here
Speaker 1: we go.
Speaker 2: I don't win very often. I the team I was
Speaker 2: going to put out there was the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Whoa are you serious? Stops? Did he get it? He
Speaker 1: gotta road? Who I told you on the podcast? What
Speaker 1: I told you this? This guy should be a GM
Speaker 1: But that's it. Time he sees things.
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. I did not look
Speaker 2: they were my pick. I kind of figured if they
Speaker 2: got count seated, go for that kind of move it.
Speaker 1: Actually, he's a Northeastern graduate. He's got integrity for you.
Speaker 1: They don't have like a television directly in front of
Speaker 1: you that's off to the side. That okay, I and
Speaker 1: I believe you. I believe you because you're You're that's
Speaker 1: the ilk of type of the journalists that you are.
Speaker 1: You would have you've nailed that wonderful job.
Speaker 2: No, I would either have made a funny pick that
Speaker 2: was wrong as opposed to a card. So why is
Speaker 2: that such a great move? Now for the Jacks, they
Speaker 2: made a couple of cots. Put it Hazio. They needed
Speaker 2: some pieces up front. They needed to make an addition
Speaker 2: to the defensive side of the ball. They are, you know,
Speaker 2: they're set on the edge with Walker and Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: They cut Darius Williams. I think they're gonna maybe address
Speaker 2: corner in the draft. But it kind of felt like
Speaker 2: once they lost Calvin Ridley, they had money to burn.
Speaker 2: I think they were budgeting to bring him back, and
Speaker 2: once they lost in Tennessee, they kind of had this
Speaker 2: big chunk of money, didn't really have a lot to
Speaker 2: do with it. It wasn't really any you know, a replacement
Speaker 2: for Ridley on the offensive side of the ball that
Speaker 2: made sense. They already signed Gabe Davis. I think they'll
Speaker 2: probably draft a wide receiver, but Armstead was the best
Speaker 2: player left and address the position of need for them.
Speaker 2: I think they were weak up front. I think they
Speaker 2: needed another piece on the interior arms s it's a
Speaker 2: great player. Thought it made a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: I love me. He's like six foot eight, could barely
Speaker 1: walk the fit through a door. Still playing well.
Speaker 5: He was actually the first large fifth highest graded interior
Speaker 5: pass rusher last year according to PFF. Just miss snaps
Speaker 5: for the first time and missed thirteen games over the
Speaker 5: last two years. It does remind me a little bit
Speaker 5: of though, the Rams signing Alan Robinson just because they
Speaker 5: had so much money when they couldn't get Von Miller
Speaker 5: that they just like, well, we got to spend that
Speaker 5: money the next day, and so that's the Jaguars do
Speaker 5: this with the Calvin Ridley money. But Armstead's a good player.
Speaker 2: But did they was Trent balky the guy who drafted
Speaker 2: Eric Armston?
Speaker 1: Ooh was he was?
Speaker 2: He still there?
Speaker 1: I believe he was. That was back in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: seventeenth over.
Speaker 5: I think Trent Balki lasted it until fifteen or sixteen.
Speaker 5: So you've really sleuthed it once again. You win, Yeah,
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen he was there until So he did draft
Speaker 5: Eric ham said, you can often connect these little dots
Speaker 5: the well he can.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 3: Bill, before we let you go a little heat check
Speaker 3: on you, because you've already won this podcast. But did
Speaker 3: you also win well, you can't win it out right
Speaker 3: because f and Rosenthal went four and Oh what a
Speaker 3: year Rosenthal had in his predictions. Bill, I don't know
Speaker 3: if you were plugged it on that. It was I
Speaker 3: heard infurious.
Speaker 2: A source texted me about very time.
Speaker 1: It was a constant thorn in the side of the
Speaker 1: other two people on this show.
Speaker 3: He had a great year at his predictions, including his
Speaker 3: over unders where he went four and Oh.
Speaker 4: Now we're going to check back back in August. You
Speaker 4: were on the show.
Speaker 3: Bill, let's go over your over unders.
Speaker 1: Here we go.
Speaker 4: You had the Rams over six and a half.
Speaker 1: That was a home run.
Speaker 3: Give him a ding to a good start, give him
Speaker 3: a big old Did you had that by about week
Speaker 3: you know, fourteen and then seven? You had the Lions
Speaker 3: under nine and a half they had twelve.
Speaker 6: You were that you were you were that team that
Speaker 6: didn't believe in him.
Speaker 1: You were the haters. You were the hater You had
Speaker 1: the Broncos over eight and a half. Oh, this is
Speaker 1: no way to send him out of the episode.
Speaker 3: Hey, this is just this is accountability. The Broncos went
Speaker 3: eight and nine. Wow, I didn't realize they got to eight.
Speaker 3: You almost had it up a half game short. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and the Eagles under eleven and a half and that
Speaker 3: was looking like was a a lot of trouble. And
Speaker 3: then they went in the tank and finished at eleven
Speaker 3: and six after they were eleven.
Speaker 1: And one, I believe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at the end of the year.
Speaker 4: We won't say what Mark did in that competation.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a disaster.
Speaker 2: My source also texting, but Mark did as well.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not surprised.
Speaker 3: Now you gave him another thing to think about it.
Speaker 3: He lays in bed with his eyes wide open, staring
Speaker 3: at the ceiling. Bill, come on, mental health.
Speaker 1: That's a nice ceiling.
Speaker 3: Bill Barnwell, you've said it all. Please, what do you
Speaker 3: got out there? Give people avenues to get to more Barnwell.
Speaker 2: Bill Barnwell Ridding content at ESPN dot com, ESPN's Bill
Speaker 2: Barnwell Show podcast. I'll think I'll be on NFL Live
Speaker 2: sometime next week, which a watch NFL Live every day.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'll hop on there some sports centers here
Speaker 2: and there around the horn here and there, sports centers.
Speaker 3: Here I'm doing I'm trying a new thing as hosts.
Speaker 3: I'm doing the hot ones thing, the host of hot ones.
Speaker 3: Or He's like, look in this were that camera, in
Speaker 3: that camera and tell us what you got going on,
Speaker 3: And I think you did a great job with it.
Speaker 2: Just there. I've only I've only got one camera. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna stare at that camera until until proven.
Speaker 4: Otherwise, Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Barnwell, thanks beg, thank you.
Speaker 1: Now. Russ Moore, well, I mean that was a stunt.
Speaker 1: That was a nice look into the skills of Bill Barnol.
Speaker 1: Just thirty two te got.
Speaker 5: It and Ian called them a dark horse. So he
Speaker 5: he managed to pick a dark horse.
Speaker 4: Pretty good. Let's take a break and uh, let's finish
Speaker 4: up the news.
Speaker 1: NFL media insiders. Do they even like each other?
Speaker 3: Great reaction to some something that just happened here, sorry
Speaker 3: Tom reaction.
Speaker 2: So as Tom and I are reporting, we have a trade.
Speaker 5: It's always confusing to me which tweets you put both names,
Speaker 5: and then some tweets it's only one name. I don't
Speaker 5: know how that all works.
Speaker 1: He was second was.
Speaker 4: Greg Greg Rolls a doll on the air. NFL Network
Speaker 4: saying what.
Speaker 1: Needs to be shd that there's heat. I don't even
Speaker 1: need to say it.
Speaker 5: That clip if you re listen to it on the
Speaker 5: podcast or you or you watch it on YouTube. Tom
Speaker 5: starts to break the news. He has like a half second.
Speaker 5: He starts speaking and Ian literally cuts him off.
Speaker 1: That's the game. But when we went down this avenue,
Speaker 1: that's the game back in Austin. Like I said that,
Speaker 1: there is a bit of a flashpoint focus elements and
Speaker 1: it's just mounting and growing and bubbling.
Speaker 3: Just we're just heading into draft season. This is all
Speaker 3: coming to a head. That's what flashpoint focus is all about. Yep,
Speaker 3: do we have another clip or is it we do it?
Speaker 1: We do listen to that.
Speaker 4: That's soul right there. All right, let's listen to.
Speaker 1: Greg really quick before we let you go.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be too harsh.
Speaker 3: You know on your backdroper, do you wear it kind
Speaker 3: of looks like you've got antlers just with there's like
Speaker 3: a back.
Speaker 1: There like move. Yeah.
Speaker 7: A producer also want to see what the sign says
Speaker 7: behind you since we'relling in every third letter, So as
Speaker 7: long as.
Speaker 5: It's nicer, if you're if you're a New Orleans fan,
Speaker 5: you'll kind of recognize that artist Simon who does a
Speaker 5: lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: That was a wedding gift.
Speaker 5: And you can also see my my lock trophy here
Speaker 5: as the back to back champion of the around the
Speaker 5: NFL Lock competition.
Speaker 1: It's a dynasty. People are saying there is no greater
Speaker 1: there is no greater self promoter in the entire building though.
Speaker 3: Greg, No, he's he's there. If he's got a platform,
Speaker 3: he will be pumping.
Speaker 5: You know. It's like like a politicians thing, like, don't
Speaker 5: answer the question that they ask Uh, answer the question
Speaker 5: you wish that they asked. I pivoted right off that antler.
Speaker 5: You might right into what was important. You should run
Speaker 5: for vice.
Speaker 3: We would be comfortable if you want to join the RFK,
Speaker 3: take a just a sabbatical here, we'd be.
Speaker 1: It's like antlers.
Speaker 5: By the way, while I was saying that, I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm clipping this for the show.
Speaker 3: Really good hell, good work. I like it all. Pell
Speaker 3: Raiser coming after you. He was trying to make a
Speaker 3: fool of you on live television.
Speaker 6: I could work on that backdrop. There's a lot going
Speaker 6: on it.
Speaker 5: It's not a it's not as smooth as some some
Speaker 5: out there.
Speaker 6: Dan's looks great, you know, Mark's is good.
Speaker 1: Mine mine is about as stark as it gets. I'm
Speaker 1: still working on that space.
Speaker 3: The key to a good background, I find is to
Speaker 3: have more depth. But it's hard to have depth of
Speaker 3: space here in uh Los Angeles, right.
Speaker 5: I tried to talk Amica into I would set it
Speaker 5: up on the like that the camera would be showing
Speaker 5: the whole rest of the garage, and she thought that
Speaker 5: looked insane to show like the back of a garage.
Speaker 3: Then there would be depth, Like, Greg, we get it,
Speaker 3: you're a feminist, like Liz pharised sitting on the shelf.
Speaker 1: We get it, dude. Well that's side champion.
Speaker 6: Birthday present from Liz says Happy birthday, Greg.
Speaker 1: It used to be in your bedroom. You could have
Speaker 1: switched that up.
Speaker 5: Big Wait, that's as signed Liz phari cit not only
Speaker 5: you know, individually signed uh. When she was a guest
Speaker 5: of the Tonight Show and I was a page there, right, I.
Speaker 1: Thought maybe she went to your wedding too.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a little bit of a past there,
Speaker 3: because there's more to it than just look at me.
Speaker 4: I mean'd give you I'm a champion.
Speaker 6: So Gabe Kapler is in the mix there back there,
Speaker 6: that's signed.
Speaker 3: Us that he is a a Jewish star of a
Speaker 3: Boston sports team.
Speaker 5: Who enter that who was batting? I believe eighth for
Speaker 5: some team in Japan? Uh and what I guess you
Speaker 5: could call it would be the first time I really
Speaker 5: ever met my wife Emica.
Speaker 1: How about that Greg is relling autographs? Apparently I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that about him autograph hunting.
Speaker 3: I've seen him at the President elbowing sharp elbows to children.
Speaker 1: Also get a lot of presents. It seems like a
Speaker 1: lot of people were giving you gifts left.
Speaker 5: Well, that was from the best man at our wedding.
Speaker 5: He brought us to that game. It was when we
Speaker 5: first met at it was your.
Speaker 1: Cousin who was stung by one hundred and twenty b's
Speaker 1: at the wedding? Did he give you?
Speaker 6: That was not at the wedding. That was when we
Speaker 6: were ten years old.
Speaker 5: In the breaking news Forrests of Wilbraham breaking.
Speaker 1: News, what was it again? I forgot?
Speaker 5: The Seahawks are acquiring Sam Howell Washington Commanders. They also
Speaker 5: get a fourth round and a sixth round pick in
Speaker 5: the deal the Commanders actually move up. I mean, man,
Speaker 5: if i'm Sam Howe, I'm like, wait, it's only a
Speaker 5: move up. The Commanders move up to the third and
Speaker 5: the fifth round of the draft. So essentially two pick
Speaker 5: swaps where the Commanders move up one round and the
Speaker 5: Seahawks get Sam Howell for I'll say it virtually nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of love it for Seattle.
Speaker 3: Oh well, it depends on your opinion of Sam Howell.
Speaker 1: I actually think like that. I think it's good in business.
Speaker 1: I know that Gino Smith is just like likely your
Speaker 1: start at this point, but like McDonald, not good news
Speaker 1: for Gino Smith.
Speaker 5: It is good news Gino could have had a tougher competitor.
Speaker 5: I still think actually a rookie will be there too,
Speaker 5: and it might be one of those three headed battles
Speaker 5: where it was Remember it was like Whitehurst Russell Wilson,
Speaker 5: and was Matt Flynn there.
Speaker 1: Matt Flynn and Matt Flynn had been the big free
Speaker 1: agent signing then lost his job.
Speaker 5: But if this is their veteran competition for Gino, you
Speaker 5: know he's he's gonna be over Sam Howise, certainly. And look,
Speaker 5: if you can just get a third year quarterback who's
Speaker 5: shown that he's decent, and all you have to do
Speaker 5: is move down twenty four spots from the third to
Speaker 5: the fourth round. I mean, sure, any cheap way to
Speaker 5: get a quarterback, I'll take it.
Speaker 1: Solid trade.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's easy to forget now because he had
Speaker 3: such a disastrous second half. There were a real conversation
Speaker 3: about how being the answer there and watching now a
Speaker 3: regime change occurs, so all of a sudden, he's no
Speaker 3: longer a favorite son. But he absolutely torpedoed his future
Speaker 3: there with some reckless bad play. So he's looking to
Speaker 3: kind of become a more consistent player. Maybe he can
Speaker 3: get he's kind of got a little bit of Ryan
Speaker 3: Fitzpatrick DNA, and then maybe he can have opportunities along
Speaker 3: the way life.
Speaker 1: And thanks to his late season swoon, they won four
Speaker 1: games and are in position to get a new quarterback.
Speaker 1: True obviously the Greggy and the Pats there.
Speaker 5: It was a good I had to It was a
Speaker 5: lesson on stats don't lie, but they need context. I
Speaker 5: believe he was benched at the time that he was
Speaker 5: leading the NFL in passing yards. That's we're close to it.
Speaker 5: My son walked or maybe it was fantasy points or
Speaker 5: something among quarter because Walker was was blown away. He
Speaker 5: was like, how could they bench the guy that is
Speaker 5: leading the NFL in passing?
Speaker 4: He was throwing for an ass ton of passing yards?
Speaker 3: I remember that. All right, let's finish out the news.
Speaker 3: How many passing yards?
Speaker 4: Nast he was on pace for like a five thousand yards.
Speaker 1: I love you know dirty words or phrases that are
Speaker 1: spun that way where it's like, that's not you just
Speaker 1: created a term.
Speaker 5: For the most part, thank you Randy for letting me
Speaker 5: know that Kapler was playing for the Yomi or he Giants.
Speaker 6: By the way, struggled badly.
Speaker 1: Was kind of what's that mark to say that? I
Speaker 1: didn't say that. Heavens to Betsy, my grandmother used to
Speaker 1: say that. So that's rapid, yes.
Speaker 3: Like everyone that was born in eighteen ninety eight used
Speaker 3: to say that. All right, here we go, let's spin
Speaker 3: through the rest of the news. Here the Cowboys finally
Speaker 3: get in the mix. They signed Eric Kendricks to a deal.
Speaker 3: Kendricks had backed out of an agreement or it was
Speaker 3: heading toward.
Speaker 1: Where was it? Yeah, he had agreed with the forty nine.
Speaker 3: Ers Niners, and he changes his mind and goes to
Speaker 3: the Cowboys. The Raiders finally feels like it's been something
Speaker 3: that's been percolating for a couple of years.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: They say goodbye to Hunter renfro So they cut ties
Speaker 3: with the slot receiver and Ronnie Stanley stays with Baltimore
Speaker 3: the guard. He gets a haircut, which means a pay cut,
Speaker 3: and they trade Morgan Moses to the Jets for a
Speaker 3: late pick swap. Actually, I like that trade for the
Speaker 3: Jets as well. That was a he was on the
Speaker 3: Jets then signed with the Ravens, now the Jets getting
Speaker 3: back for some late round picks.
Speaker 1: Anything on those moves. I like Stanley staying in Baltimore
Speaker 1: because they've lost offensive lineman, they've lost Patrick Queen, they've
Speaker 1: lost Geno Stone, they lost Ronald Darby. You know, it's
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham's out the door. And you mentioned the Cowboys
Speaker 1: rimerently talked about it. I feel like everyone is so
Speaker 1: it's kind of like we get it. But for the
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones telling us that this is going to be
Speaker 1: like the all in team that gets super active. They've
Speaker 1: lost almost forty five hundred snaps in terms of personnel
Speaker 1: off the roster, and in some of those and key positions, they're.
Speaker 3: In a tricky financial place, and I think that's playing
Speaker 3: into They got this dack thing hanging over the team.
Speaker 3: You got the CD Lamb contract hanging over the team.
Speaker 3: You got you know, Michah Parsons down the road. I
Speaker 3: think get they run any kind of in a tough
Speaker 3: spot a little bit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they also had I don't know if it was
Speaker 5: ever confirmed that it was actually Tyrone Smith's a Twitter
Speaker 5: account that was like saying, call me up, Cowboys, I
Speaker 5: don't really want to leave. I also think though the
Speaker 5: Cowboys do have a heart. There is a draft analyst
Speaker 5: out there by the name of like Connor Connor NFL
Speaker 5: draft analyst, and he said he's a big Cowboys fan,
Speaker 5: apparently that he would start doing meth if the if
Speaker 5: the Cowboys don't freaking sign a free agent in the
Speaker 5: next hour, And within that hour they signed Eric Kendrick.
Speaker 5: So I think they saw that out there and they wanted.
Speaker 1: To save somebody. Yeah, that's that's that is That's a
Speaker 1: caring move.
Speaker 3: Tyrone Smith, by the way, veteran left tackle thirty three
Speaker 3: years old, coming off a big season with them. He
Speaker 3: was He's always been a really talented, uh you know,
Speaker 3: borderline Hall of Fame level talent for the Cowboys. I'm
Speaker 3: surprised he doesn't have a hotter market. He's hanging out
Speaker 3: there still. Maybe does that have a hot market. He's
Speaker 3: just taking his time to make the decisions. But like
Speaker 3: nudging the Cowboys and be like, hey, guys, you want
Speaker 3: to think this over two weeks after it was widely
Speaker 3: reported that they.
Speaker 1: Were moving on.
Speaker 3: I kind of love if there's some type of red flags,
Speaker 3: you know some I think medical history.
Speaker 5: He's not getting the contract that he was hoping for,
Speaker 5: some big guaranteed money, and teams must be worried about
Speaker 5: the injuries.
Speaker 1: I mean, can you understand, like I do, get the
Speaker 1: I kind of want to just stay with the Cowboys
Speaker 1: in Dallas because it's annoying to move.
Speaker 3: First of all, I'm sure he could get a move.
Speaker 3: At least it seems fun to play for the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: I know, Cowboys. I hate the Cowboys. Don't want to
Speaker 3: hear that. But you're on Prime time all the time,
Speaker 3: You're treated well by ownership, You're in a beautiful stadium,
Speaker 3: everybody's always watching.
Speaker 1: You probably live.
Speaker 5: On a ranch, although Schultz pointed out how state income
Speaker 5: tax Dalton Schultz pointed out how sometimes when you're working out,
Speaker 5: they are like taking tours past you and they can
Speaker 5: see through the glass to you working out, and he
Speaker 5: was just like, what's you know, kind of reminded me
Speaker 5: of your situation mark where the doors are going by
Speaker 5: your Now imagine that, except you're doing like squats and whatnot.
Speaker 5: I mean, the last thing I think you would want is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's a little difference between me doing squats
Speaker 1: and Dalton Schultz here. It was impressive.
Speaker 3: You're saying like you're concerned you might you know, be
Speaker 3: for something when you're doing squats and someone.
Speaker 5: I just mean, like, you don't want people staring at
Speaker 5: you while you're lifting, you know, doing weights and stuff.
Speaker 3: And you got you know, that's certainly a consequence as well. Potentially, Yeah, you're.
Speaker 1: Right, that's one of the that's that's that's that could
Speaker 1: happen to you. That would be problematic.
Speaker 4: Go to Terry Blacks right before middle school class.
Speaker 1: They keep they must have nowhere else to go because
Speaker 1: they've gone back and forth.
Speaker 3: I should at times journalistically, a downside of playing for
Speaker 3: the Cowboys is that you physically cannot advance past the
Speaker 3: divisional round of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: But there's a little bit of a yeah, but your
Speaker 1: off season starts sooner.
Speaker 4: Glass ceiling as well.
Speaker 1: It's true.
Speaker 5: You don't really get paid extra for the playoffs. It's sneaky,
Speaker 5: it's true, I mean a little bit.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: In other news, Willie Gay goes to the Saints. The
Speaker 3: Bucks bring Jordan I'd had the safety back home after
Speaker 3: a couple of years with the Jets. The Bengals get
Speaker 3: Sheldon Rankins, who I've always liked Von Bell.
Speaker 1: They cut ties with Nick Scott.
Speaker 5: Also, while we were taping, the Lions picked up DJ Reader,
Speaker 5: who is coming off a torn quad, but it was
Speaker 5: a very good player when he is healthy, to a
Speaker 5: pretty sizey contract. Some of these contracts for defensive lineman
Speaker 5: Rangkins is a good example, went way up. Like he's
Speaker 5: a guy that Williams injuries. They had been signing like
Speaker 5: one year. Yeah, I know, torn quads. I'm surprised that
Speaker 5: I want to look at the particulars if they have
Speaker 5: some protection injury wise, because you're often not the same
Speaker 5: player off a torn quad. But Rankings got two for
Speaker 5: twenty six Like that just shows how much cap spaces
Speaker 5: out there because he's the same player. He's a very
Speaker 5: good player, the same player as he's been the last
Speaker 5: couple of years, but now is getting almost like double
Speaker 5: the money that he was getting from Houston or from
Speaker 5: the Jets.
Speaker 3: Should be clear that Adams had a torn quad tendon,
Speaker 3: which is different than the muscle.
Speaker 4: So I think it's the tendon.
Speaker 3: Is the one where it's like, uh oh, maybe in
Speaker 3: the muscle terrors not quite as we're boding. All right,
Speaker 3: that's what's happening in the news.
Speaker 1: You get everything. Well, I think we had a couple
Speaker 1: of predictions ye out there.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, let's go, let's cycle back to that.
Speaker 3: So I asked the Bill to offer a prediction, and
Speaker 3: not only in real time did he offer a sound one.
Speaker 3: It was confirmed via the news seconds later that he
Speaker 3: was correct in uh uh getting.
Speaker 1: Who was it?
Speaker 3: It was to the Jaguars, Eric, Eric Armstead, So Eric Armstead,
Speaker 3: So Brian.
Speaker 1: He just had a stroke. Mark.
Speaker 3: I don't know who Brian is. Mark, who could be Brian?
Speaker 3: If you give us a prediction.
Speaker 1: So, Mike Williams, I've been looking around at a couple
Speaker 1: of these wide out rooms, and I think Mike Williams.
Speaker 1: I think the former owner of this team would have
Speaker 1: liked the Mike Williams concept a lot. But the Las
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders right now have DeVante Adams who are there
Speaker 1: obviously this, you know, I don't think the idea of
Speaker 1: the trading him is gone because they got behind him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers. And then you've got guys like Trey Tucker,
Speaker 1: DJ Turner and Christian Wilkerson. They have nothing at wide receivers.
Speaker 1: So I feel like Mike Williams to Las Vegas, you know,
Speaker 1: in your in the same division. It kind of takes
Speaker 1: away from the Chargers, Adds to the Raiders they need
Speaker 1: a wide receiver and right Church, wrong Pew.
Speaker 3: Why so it's so on brand for where this team
Speaker 3: is right now, and this player, Odell wants to play
Speaker 3: in Vegas. Odell Beckham to the Raiders, I guess better
Speaker 3: a little more money than you think.
Speaker 1: You're Odell though, and you literally shredded your relationship in
Speaker 1: Cleveland because of what you can deemed to be and
Speaker 1: your father deemed to be shaky quarterback play. Do you
Speaker 1: sign up with a team that right now is Gardner
Speaker 1: Minshew and Aidan O'Connell.
Speaker 4: He'll go who offers him money.
Speaker 3: At this point, I could just see the Raiders being
Speaker 3: wanting to get in the Odell business.
Speaker 1: Put it that way. I mean, we went angle the Super.
Speaker 3: Bowl at uh in Vegas this year. You know, did
Speaker 3: the walk around the concourse. I always like to do
Speaker 3: that and see what these stadiums look at. Beautiful facility,
Speaker 3: Allegiance Stadium. But the Raiders are insane with who they retire,
Speaker 3: the numbers they retire. They retired Randy Moss's number.
Speaker 1: They didn't retire his number.
Speaker 5: They had He's in the ring of whatever they had
Speaker 5: they had.
Speaker 6: I guess what it was that didn't even go.
Speaker 5: Well, it was like any raider that has ever made
Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame gets their picture even though they
Speaker 5: count they counted Jerry Rice as a Raider to.
Speaker 3: Come on, Well, that's actually tricky because Beckham he should
Speaker 3: be he should be going to the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 3: but he just kind of his career he didn't. Injuries
Speaker 3: played a role, but he never reached the full potential
Speaker 3: of what he was, which was a beautiful, perfect wide
Speaker 3: receiver early in his career. So but I still like
Speaker 3: they love big name brands. They always have al loved it.
Speaker 3: His son Mark loves it. So that's my prediction.
Speaker 5: I'm going to go with the trade. I'm going to
Speaker 5: go with Marshawn Lattimore go into the New England Patriots
Speaker 5: in a deal. I think Ron Wolf I feel better.
Speaker 5: It feels like there's an adult in the room now
Speaker 5: with the Patriots in terms of how to run a team.
Speaker 5: And I think their defense looks quite good on paper,
Speaker 5: and they're going to look for any value and they
Speaker 5: can afford it.
Speaker 1: Like they didn't.
Speaker 5: They didn't find the right players to spend a lot
Speaker 5: of money. But Marshawn Lattimore, let's say you give up like.
Speaker 1: A when there's some there's something about Latimore hit hitting the.
Speaker 5: I think Latimore is going to get traded at some point.
Speaker 5: Uh maybe maybe what happened the next week, Maybe it
Speaker 5: would happened closer to the draft, but you might be
Speaker 5: able to get away with giving up like a third
Speaker 5: round pick for Lattimore or maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know what's going you know Greg's gonna nail this
Speaker 1: and then ours are gonna go by the wayside.
Speaker 3: That's all. That's that's all. The earth is a new year,
Speaker 3: New Year. It's a new chance for us. How about
Speaker 3: I believe it was a draft class mate. Was Alva,
Speaker 3: Kamara and Latimore in the same class.
Speaker 1: I think that's right.
Speaker 3: Both that Mega twenty seventeen class that revitalized Sean Payton's
Speaker 3: career in New Orleans. How about another Saints Oneamara up
Speaker 3: to Denver read team with Sean Payton, Peyton trying to
Speaker 3: trying to kind of get some elements that are familiar
Speaker 3: to him as he looks to reboot the machine posts
Speaker 3: Russ truly in his vision, and it's not gonna cost
Speaker 3: you much because I think Kamorrow at this stage won't
Speaker 3: command something big, so like Kamara for a fifth round or.
Speaker 1: Something like that, wow, fourth rounder. Maybe how about this one?
Speaker 1: The g men and Justin Fields after a bunch of
Speaker 1: no one really wants them, we get it. Like at
Speaker 1: this point, I'm wondering if the Bears just hold on
Speaker 1: to him, it's like he's not a child. If they
Speaker 1: draft a rookie, they can coexist. And then when a
Speaker 1: team has like their star quarterback have his knee destroyed,
Speaker 1: like in Week three, Justin Field's value goes up because
Speaker 1: right now his value is very low. But the g
Speaker 1: men feel or even the Patriots feel like a potential fit.
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
Speaker 5: If I was the Bears and I don't get offered
Speaker 5: anything better than like a fourth and I feel shaky
Speaker 5: during the draft, then I would rather just keep Justin
Speaker 5: Fields and make everyone be a grown up and maybe
Speaker 5: he'll get traded later on.
Speaker 3: I think that's a good one. I don't know about
Speaker 3: to the Giants because there just there aren't that many
Speaker 3: teams that make sense for Justin Fields. The Giants are
Speaker 3: done with Daniel Jones after this season. They get Drew Locke,
Speaker 3: but true Locke is it? But if you hold on
Speaker 3: to them, yeah, that makes sense. I think we'll be
Speaker 3: telling if you see the Bears add another backup to
Speaker 3: the room in the coming days and weeks, that they
Speaker 3: might be thinking about keeping Fields and then having someone
Speaker 3: in the building when they move fields.
Speaker 1: Maybe in October you just can't have I think Justin
Speaker 1: Fields is a tricky QB two because any I think
Speaker 1: what fans love them. I know these teams don't seem
Speaker 1: to love them or something about them, but like teammates do.
Speaker 1: Teammates do? But like if Justin Fields is sitting behind
Speaker 1: any quarterback, that's struggling on any level. It's like there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem for the coaching staff.
Speaker 6: We still got stuff out there, but not as much.
Speaker 6: It was fast. The insiders were talking, you know, as
Speaker 6: part of their.
Speaker 3: Seemed today you were on the program today, did did
Speaker 3: did they seem to let you in?
Speaker 4: Or was there was there any coldness to it?
Speaker 1: Like? How was it?
Speaker 5: I mean it was they let me in. Certainly they
Speaker 5: were friendly. I mean it was pretty much whatever interactions
Speaker 5: we had was on the air, because you know, it
Speaker 5: wasn't too much before that. But yes, they were great,
Speaker 5: and they were talking about how this really was the
Speaker 5: fastest moving I don't know how they could prove this,
Speaker 5: but the fastest moving free agency that had ever happened
Speaker 5: in terms of the most players and the most signings
Speaker 5: coming off the board.
Speaker 1: The faster fast. Yeah, because people have been tampering for
Speaker 1: like forty five days. I don't want to hear about
Speaker 1: this idea that that's you know, cone of silence until
Speaker 1: this false deadline is ushered in.
Speaker 5: I've got eleven players left off of my top one
Speaker 5: O one and that was the top one on one
Speaker 5: for Monday. If you had gone back to the original
Speaker 5: less to be way, way way.
Speaker 1: People are tracking it at this at this pace, Greg,
Speaker 1: I know they're looking at every transaction on the NFL
Speaker 1: dot com website.
Speaker 3: Didn't get him a chip, should have gotten into a
Speaker 3: super Bowl, but they got robbed by the officials. But
Speaker 3: that twenty seventeen Saints draft class Marshawn Lattimore first round,
Speaker 3: Ryan Ramcheck first round, Marcus Williams second round, Alvin Kamara
Speaker 3: third round, Ray Hendrickson, third round, Alex Anzeloni and the
Speaker 3: sixth pick.
Speaker 1: The Saints have also had a couple of disastrous first
Speaker 1: round selections in.
Speaker 6: That is that it really is an all time draft, ultimate.
Speaker 1: Reset that whole organization with Drew Brees.
Speaker 5: Finally, I mean Hendrickson's the third round pick, Muhammed, Actually
Speaker 5: you meant just mentioned as this. Even the sixth round
Speaker 5: pick had a nice career who ended up being in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: But like that's it's a crazy draft. It's like Mickey
Speaker 1: Loomis actually is focused on the team at Verse Junk
Speaker 1: it was back then.
Speaker 5: You know who's playing well right now? The Pelicans. I
Speaker 5: guess that's our time to.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, whenever the Pelicans come up.
Speaker 3: All right, thank you everybody, We'll be back on Friday
Speaker 3: if something warrants it.
Speaker 1: But don't hold your breath.
Speaker 4: It's gotta be big, gotta be. We had for president.
Speaker 6: We had a Deshaun Watson one a couple.
Speaker 1: Of years ago. He's not stealing my Friday. He's a
Speaker 1: call
Speaker 7: H