Speaker 1: Welcome to Guys We Fucked. Guys We Guys Book. I'm Christina,
Speaker 1: I'm Karren. We're sorry about last night, the anti sluck
Speaker 1: shaming podcast. I never stopped. Hey fucker's Welcome to another
Speaker 1: episode of Guys We Fun. Did you have a spooky Halloween?
Speaker 1: It's the anti slushing podcast. I'm Karn Christina. I was like,
Speaker 1: we can just skip that part, but people are still confused. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Halloween was spooky. It's a great time. I still have
Speaker 1: my character's tattoo on because, um, who are you tell
Speaker 1: the group? Karn? Yes, I was Frank and Footer, and
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are like, who's that?
Speaker 1: Because you're twenty four and life's the dream Frank and Fun. Um,
Speaker 1: it's a character from a movie called Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows that movie. Don't love it at least no
Speaker 1: they don't. It's Shut your Horror Fun. Oh God, the
Speaker 1: cult classic from the seventies and if you haven't watched,
Speaker 1: I highly recommend you watching it. Yeah, Tim Curry is
Speaker 1: really hot. And then part damn, there's something about a
Speaker 1: man in a corset and makeup that just makes me
Speaker 1: very around. Oh I love transvestites. That's why I love
Speaker 1: Eddie Hazzard. Yea very into it. Uh and Christina, tell
Speaker 1: the class what you were. Um, I was a fun
Speaker 1: nun like fun Yeah, well it's funny. Stephen and I
Speaker 1: got our costumes not on Halloween websites. We got them
Speaker 1: on My costume was a latex nun's outfit, but it
Speaker 1: was like a floodier version, you know, more sexually explorative,
Speaker 1: and it was just like black underwear and then you
Speaker 1: know latex like long sleep with you know my you
Speaker 1: know my butt hanging out all that stuff. And uh,
Speaker 1: it was at a sex a sex website, like a
Speaker 1: sex toy website and sex costume. So I was really proud.
Speaker 1: And then he got a priest robe, um from an
Speaker 1: actual priest robe website. Yeah, it's very It was very hot,
Speaker 1: very sexy, very much arousing. And then he got this
Speaker 1: on this like gay daddy website. He purchased a leather
Speaker 1: mask and leather gloves. He was just going to be
Speaker 1: like a creepy thing. I don't really know what, but
Speaker 1: it was so hot. Um the gloves on the website
Speaker 1: he got him it was like smack your gay daddy
Speaker 1: in the face with these fucking gloves. I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: nice and then fucking glamorous. I wore following costume when
Speaker 1: he wore his, and he put the mask on. This
Speaker 1: He put the mask on right after the show, and
Speaker 1: I was like, we need to go and fuck, Like
Speaker 1: I don't even want to hang out with anybody. I'm
Speaker 1: very tired too. But it was so hot and I
Speaker 1: made him like smack my ass with those gloves on,
Speaker 1: and it took the sting out of the smack, but
Speaker 1: I still experienced the weight of it, which is what
Speaker 1: I like about it. Like I like, I like getting
Speaker 1: smacked around, but every once in a while it'll like
Speaker 1: stink and I'm like, oh, not hot, And it kind
Speaker 1: of takes everybody out of the moment because ie, if
Speaker 1: you were act like that, when what it is how
Speaker 1: I do and so but with these gloves, man, I'll
Speaker 1: be your fucking gay daddy all day and all night.
Speaker 1: It was so hot. Oh my god, it was like
Speaker 1: the hottest sex ever. And I was like, keep the
Speaker 1: mask on. I wanted to keep the robot too, but
Speaker 1: oh my god, I I need to have had sex
Speaker 1: in like a mask girl a wig. I'm always like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm getting a headache now and need you pick this off?
Speaker 1: We never do, and I was like, this is great.
Speaker 1: I've had sex in a Katie Perry wag. Well that's fun.
Speaker 1: It was kind of wig like was it a blue?
Speaker 1: The blue? The blue, the blue longer? One? Oh? Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: so that was fun. Yeah, you guys put a wig
Speaker 1: on and fuck, but not for too long because you
Speaker 1: need you need to air out your head, your scalp area. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was very I was like, you know what
Speaker 1: this is. This is opening up a gate into some
Speaker 1: sort of costume or prop buying because that was so fun.
Speaker 1: And another thing we did yesterday actually moved out my
Speaker 1: roommate whom I adored love, but now it was me
Speaker 1: Stephen in the roommate living together for four years. Was like,
Speaker 1: now like you're like a normal couple. It's honestly like
Speaker 1: I kind of shed a little to your happiness because
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this is like a
Speaker 1: step in a relationship that's almost six years old. For
Speaker 1: something to feel new is a very exciting, and man
Speaker 1: it felt so it was so exciting. We came home
Speaker 1: after we moved her and we're like, why I could
Speaker 1: be as loud as I want. I don't even have
Speaker 1: to care. I could run naked and like hump the
Speaker 1: stairwell and no one cares because it's just him and
Speaker 1: I and if he cares for him, it's our house.
Speaker 1: But um no, it was really fun. And then I
Speaker 1: was like, we're gonna have so much sex tonight in celebration.
Speaker 1: What did I do? It fell right asleep? That's your
Speaker 1: Halloween party. I was like, then you were tired from
Speaker 1: Halloween and from moving. I'm moving very tiring. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: my vocal cords are strained. No. I was so mad
Speaker 1: because everyone thought my Halloween costume was sexy and I
Speaker 1: was like, this is not sexy. But it was as
Speaker 1: a man dressed as a woman. But now fil makeup
Speaker 1: on like that was that made me scared that people
Speaker 1: were attracted to it. Well, maybe they weren't looking at
Speaker 1: your face, but your face was a very attractive too.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, well, you know, the
Speaker 1: oddly heavy makeup did bring out my eyes, but I
Speaker 1: would courage just too sexy. It was just weird because
Speaker 1: because I take Halloween so seriously, and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I was like, this isn't sexy. I was like, this
Speaker 1: is just very correct. Tommy was a very accurate costume.
Speaker 1: He was so upset that no one knew he was Joanne.
Speaker 1: It was great. I think I told him that was
Speaker 1: looked amazing. That was more of a commentary on not
Speaker 1: enough people listening to Lady Gaga anymore, not commentary on
Speaker 1: him not doing a great bang up job. It was
Speaker 1: an amazing job. Yeah, it was great. I knew. I mean,
Speaker 1: it just made me laugh all night. Yea. And there
Speaker 1: were parties are great. There were two Joanne's there two
Speaker 1: were too fucking Joanne. He was also just as Joanne.
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Speaker 1: is Zoe. Feel free to say it on the podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm twenty years old. Recently, I took a vacation to
Speaker 1: San Francisco looking for fun and stories to come home with.
Speaker 1: I ended up getting extremely drunk six bottles of champagne later,
Speaker 1: good God, I would die. Uh, and sleeping with a
Speaker 1: guy I had met while smoking outside of the hotel. Well.
Speaker 1: I don't remember most of the night, I only making
Speaker 1: out with him in every corner of the Financial District
Speaker 1: of San Francisco. I do remember consenting to having sex
Speaker 1: with him, plants good and that he's married with a child.
Speaker 1: I also have a serious boyfriend who I have been
Speaker 1: living with for months, even though things have been rocky
Speaker 1: between us before this. I tried to break up with
Speaker 1: my boyfriend after the incident without letting him know of
Speaker 1: my infidelity. My question is, I don't feel bad about
Speaker 1: either cheating all my serious boyfriend or the man being married.
Speaker 1: He also happened to be in San Francisco on business,
Speaker 1: and he only only lives about a thirty minute drive
Speaker 1: from me. We've kept in touch only while he's at work.
Speaker 1: Only while he's at work. Communication cuts off around six
Speaker 1: thirty when I assume he's home with his family and
Speaker 1: we've made plans to see each other again. Does this
Speaker 1: make me a bad person? What? Well, here's my thing.
Speaker 1: Does the guy who's married have an open relationship? Does
Speaker 1: he have a deal with his wife? Because maybe you
Speaker 1: know a lot of people do and you don't know.
Speaker 1: I think odds are he doesn't know. I know. I
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, judging by the tone and
Speaker 1: the subject of the email, you should ask, but um,
Speaker 1: you know, okay, what you do, what your pussy, you do,
Speaker 1: what you're pussy right. If you are asking me, should
Speaker 1: I fuck a man knowing that he has a wife,
Speaker 1: my first question would be, well, does he have an
Speaker 1: open relationship? Doesn't have an open marriage? If not, let's
Speaker 1: assume he doesn't. Let's assume he does not. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: fuck him because that lady is raising some kids and
Speaker 1: maybe she has no idea that her man's cheating, or
Speaker 1: maybe she's getting d on the side. We don't know,
Speaker 1: But I just wouldn't I personally wouldn't. It just also
Speaker 1: seems like a lot of drama. This is how people
Speaker 1: end up getting murdered. Like, it's just a lot, it's
Speaker 1: a lot out of drama. Their o more drama in
Speaker 1: my life. And I know you think this guy is spectacular,
Speaker 1: and like he might be for the time being. I
Speaker 1: mean also he's not, And like, no one's that spectacular. No,
Speaker 1: just no one is. Honestly, his wife probably thinks that too,
Speaker 1: it's not that spectacular. Yeah, yeah, I don't think you're
Speaker 1: a bad person, but I think it's very wise to
Speaker 1: not sleep with a man knowing as a wife in
Speaker 1: a monogamy, I'm not in a monogamy commitment to her,
Speaker 1: a monogamous commitment to her. And also, like, this chick
Speaker 1: has a boyfriend too, so it's like, yeah, what are
Speaker 1: you doing, Like I get not telling the boyfriend. I
Speaker 1: get I understand completely breaking up with a boyfriend and
Speaker 1: not telling him about that because obviously you wanted to
Speaker 1: break up with them sooner. And then also that's just
Speaker 1: gonna make the boyfriend feel like shit and you're gonna
Speaker 1: break up anyway, So don't Maybe you don't make him
Speaker 1: feel like shit, right, you know if he finds out,
Speaker 1: that's gonna sting really hard. But I am a believer
Speaker 1: of like, don't twist the knife if it's already on him. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, she didn't actually break up with her to
Speaker 1: break up with it. Well, so it's like, I think
Speaker 1: what you need to do is actually break up with
Speaker 1: your boyfriend because like sometimes when you cheat, cheating is
Speaker 1: like you're like you're subconscious telling you like, hey, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be in this relationship anymore. So you're
Speaker 1: you're acting out like a child would basically, So do that,
Speaker 1: but then don't don't continue going seeing this guy, Like seriously,
Speaker 1: this is like it's like, you know how many other
Speaker 1: men are out there? Yeah, you met him at a
Speaker 1: bar smoking a cigarette outside. Do you know if you
Speaker 1: actually try to date like actively, like pursued men on
Speaker 1: dating apps or like at bars, but you know going
Speaker 1: up to them, you could get another dude that would
Speaker 1: like you a lot. It's just like it's it doesn't
Speaker 1: and it doesn't make you a bad person. It makes
Speaker 1: you a person who doesn't respect other people's relationships and
Speaker 1: and who has questionable morals. I don't think that makes
Speaker 1: you a bad person now, because everyone has questionable morals.
Speaker 1: The word winning, yeah, I wouldn't be like, give her
Speaker 1: the Nobel Prize for Girlfriend of the Year. You're not.
Speaker 1: You're not winning a person of the year award. But
Speaker 1: you know, you know there's a lot of us, aren't.
Speaker 1: There's worse people. It's fine, I'm not. It's not. It's
Speaker 1: not a huge deal. But just like stomped it, don't
Speaker 1: fuck a merry guy. Yeah, if his relationship is closed,
Speaker 1: I mean, he that's his decision, right, But don't get
Speaker 1: into that. Why would you go down that wormhole? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just a mess, that's the thing. It's just a mess.
Speaker 1: And if you and and if that and if the
Speaker 1: messiness is part of what attracts you to it, which
Speaker 1: sometimes people are tracked to that, that's a different that's
Speaker 1: a whole different thing. Like you, why ask yourself? Why
Speaker 1: the fund do I love drama? I'm an adult, no
Speaker 1: man drama. Play that song over and over again because
Speaker 1: she had a really good message. It's just it's just unnecessary.
Speaker 1: I think I agree all right. Um. The second email
Speaker 1: is help get me get him fired. Hello, ladies, I
Speaker 1: heard of your podcast quite late, but don't worry. I
Speaker 1: binge them all. You're both awesome. My name is can
Speaker 1: we say it? I don't know? My name is blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, and I would like some help with the
Speaker 1: situation I've been in for a while now. This is
Speaker 1: going to be long. I won't apologize, just a warning.
Speaker 1: So when I was a shman in college, I became
Speaker 1: an e M T on the college's rescue squad. I
Speaker 1: thought it was the best choice I've ever made. I
Speaker 1: love helping people. I work well under stress, and I
Speaker 1: don't get grossed out no matter what bodily fluid squirts
Speaker 1: on me. Emergency medicine is the career for me. I
Speaker 1: absolutely love it. I see some hilarious situations that people
Speaker 1: get into and also some very serious and hard ones.
Speaker 1: I have seen people in their worst moments and pride
Speaker 1: of myself and my crew on knowing what to do
Speaker 1: in any situation to help that person. We work really
Speaker 1: closely with the police and hospital, obviously, which allowed me
Speaker 1: to see the good they do and know the resources
Speaker 1: available to someone, especially females who have been raped or
Speaker 1: in an abusive situation. I had so much hope and
Speaker 1: thought that everyone I worked with was working for others
Speaker 1: and thought these situations were horrible. After a year of
Speaker 1: being on rescue, I ended up seeing this guy who
Speaker 1: was also on rescue. We started talking a lot and flirting.
Speaker 1: He would meet me outside my dorm so we could
Speaker 1: walk to classes together and whatnot. I ended up stopping
Speaker 1: things because I am a strong believer and not shooting
Speaker 1: where you eat. I also just had an off vibe
Speaker 1: from him and did not want things to go further.
Speaker 1: Lots of people already thought we were dating. He was
Speaker 1: in a position of power on the rescue squad, a captain,
Speaker 1: which is the highest rank other than the chief. I
Speaker 1: thought we were on good terms until I realized my
Speaker 1: name was taken off the list as eligible a m
Speaker 1: t S to enter an advanced class to hire my certification.
Speaker 1: He had the final say. I was so mad after
Speaker 1: learning this, but I was determined to win him over
Speaker 1: through my work. I started picking up extra shifts and
Speaker 1: coming in on my time off to help other people
Speaker 1: trained together. He was always around during my shifts, even
Speaker 1: when he wasn't scheduled. I thought it was annoying, but
Speaker 1: I kept telling myself it was good because he would
Speaker 1: be able to see all the hard work I put
Speaker 1: in and then sign me off on taking the advanced class.
Speaker 1: After a month of this going on, I was training
Speaker 1: with him and the on duty crew. The crew got
Speaker 1: a call and left with one ambulance, leaving us alone
Speaker 1: in the other. Since I thought training was done, I
Speaker 1: sarted to pack up the equipment, but he told me
Speaker 1: he wasn't finished. I said, okay, wanting him to see
Speaker 1: how hard I worked. He said, we are going to
Speaker 1: go over. E KG is the heart monitor. He told
Speaker 1: me to lay on a stretcher and be the patient.
Speaker 1: I was hesitant and had an immediate sick feeling come
Speaker 1: over me. Trust those instincts. I had no idea why,
Speaker 1: and I played it off as just discomfort from a
Speaker 1: past quote almost relationship. I asked if we can use
Speaker 1: the dummy as the patient, and he said no because
Speaker 1: it was in the training room closet and this was
Speaker 1: going to be a fast training so he didn't want
Speaker 1: to get it out. I agreed then to be the patient,
Speaker 1: with a relief that he said it would be fast.
Speaker 1: He's started putting the electrodes on me, but I had
Speaker 1: a sports braw on and it's hard to get them
Speaker 1: in the right place with it on. He told me
Speaker 1: to take it off. I refused. He then held me
Speaker 1: down and took out his trauma shears and started cutting
Speaker 1: my clothes off. I fought back, but was too weak.
Speaker 1: I tried to push him off and kept yelling him
Speaker 1: to get off. Stop. No, he wouldn't listen. I mentally
Speaker 1: blacked out after that. I just remember the heart monitor
Speaker 1: being really fast because my heart was pounding. When he
Speaker 1: was done, I looked down and lots of my clothes
Speaker 1: were cut, and he just said, quote trainings over. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's Academy award winning Before leaving the ambulance, I remember
Speaker 1: looking through my locker for some clothes before running back
Speaker 1: to my dorm. It took me a week before I
Speaker 1: had the courage to go to the campus police. But
Speaker 1: since they worked so closely with our E. M. S.
Speaker 1: Squad uh, they were very good friends with the guy
Speaker 1: from being on so many calls that dealt with assault,
Speaker 1: I had one percent confidence that they would help me.
Speaker 1: I was wrong. The first thing they said to me was, oh,
Speaker 1: you're part of the Code three club now quote in parentheses,
Speaker 1: kind of like the Mile High Club, but with an
Speaker 1: ambulance instead of a plane grows so they think rape
Speaker 1: and sex. The next thing was quote, weren't you dating him?
Speaker 1: I felt so horrible and invalidated. I just sat in
Speaker 1: my car and screamed. I tried to go to another
Speaker 1: police office multiple times, but I got the excuse that
Speaker 1: I have to report it to the police in the
Speaker 1: town it was committed uh, and that they couldn't do anything.
Speaker 1: Or I got the excuse that other police departments are
Speaker 1: competent and if they say it's nothing, it's nothing. Nobody
Speaker 1: would listen to me. I took a month break from rescue,
Speaker 1: but I saw him around classes and he always made
Speaker 1: the excuse to talk to me. I tried rescue again,
Speaker 1: but every time I was there I would panic, which
Speaker 1: prevented me from giving the best patient care. I was
Speaker 1: terrified to do anything in front of him, and experiences
Speaker 1: freezing on a call even though I knew what to do.
Speaker 1: I tried to confide in friends who were also on rescue,
Speaker 1: but I was just pegged as the crazy X, and
Speaker 1: nobody really believed me. I was isolated and lost a
Speaker 1: lot of friends. I was known as the troublemaker and dramatic.
Speaker 1: I loved rescue before this, though, uh so I decided
Speaker 1: to transfer rules and rescue squads. Since the M E.
Speaker 1: M S community is so small in my area, it
Speaker 1: was really hard to get a job with another organization.
Speaker 1: Nobody from the previous squad would give me a recommendation,
Speaker 1: but I finally was hired with the organization in the
Speaker 1: town over. Fast forward a year. I'm working through all
Speaker 1: the feelings of guilt, self doubt, blaming myself, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Like most victims have to work through. I also had
Speaker 1: to convince myself I was actually good at my job.
Speaker 1: I went to therapy and was finally getting my life
Speaker 1: back together. I worked my way up in that organization.
Speaker 1: I saw him now and again in passing, but there
Speaker 1: was no contact after I moved until he got a
Speaker 1: job as an E. D. Tech in the hospital. He
Speaker 1: was off rescue at that point since he graduated college
Speaker 1: and that squad only allowed students. His new job in
Speaker 1: the hospital was basically just the assistant to the nurse.
Speaker 1: I would bring patients and transfer care to him, which
Speaker 1: made me sick to my stomach even though I knew
Speaker 1: they were in good care, uh in good hands in
Speaker 1: terms of medical skill. However, one night I get called
Speaker 1: to a seventeen year old female who was raped at gunpoint.
Speaker 1: We get there and it was like any other rape call.
Speaker 1: We are careful not to mess up the crime scene,
Speaker 1: make sure the patient is medically stable, and we try
Speaker 1: to get the story right. We are advocates for these
Speaker 1: people even after we drop them off in the hospital.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we even testify in court if it comes to that.
Speaker 1: We document everything we find, which is so important since
Speaker 1: we are usually the first people to come into contact
Speaker 1: with the person after the assault, all rape calls hit
Speaker 1: home for me. I can relate and do my best
Speaker 1: to give support and comfort while also doing my job.
Speaker 1: I promised her safety in the hospital. I told her
Speaker 1: she would be in good hands. Once we get her
Speaker 1: there and in a room, he shows up and introduces
Speaker 1: himself and asks to take her vitals. I lost it.
Speaker 1: I did not know what to do. I watched my
Speaker 1: rapist touch a rape victim less than an hour after
Speaker 1: her assault happened. The pain and helplessness I felt in
Speaker 1: that moment was worse than the rape itself. I told
Speaker 1: the staff that she should have only female caregivers, which
Speaker 1: is not unusual in these situations. Luckily he was escorted
Speaker 1: from the room. I cannot forget that instance, and it
Speaker 1: kills me to know he is they're caring for people
Speaker 1: who are hurt the way he has hurt people. I
Speaker 1: no longer feel that the hospital is safe for certain patients,
Speaker 1: and I cannot get it out of my mind that
Speaker 1: he is doing what he did to me in the hospital.
Speaker 1: I really don't think he should work there, let alone
Speaker 1: be free anywhere. But I fought and was not heard.
Speaker 1: I went to the police, to friends, to organizations set
Speaker 1: up for rape survivors. I went everywhere I knew to go,
Speaker 1: which is actually much more than the average person since
Speaker 1: I am in that E. M. S. Community. Either they
Speaker 1: didn't listen or they were only focused on making sure
Speaker 1: I was okay, which yes, is extremely important. But my
Speaker 1: question to you is not the usual was it my
Speaker 1: fault sort of thing. I know how to work on
Speaker 1: those feelings, but it's how do I get this person
Speaker 1: out of this environment. I need to get this person
Speaker 1: out of the hospital and in any setting where he
Speaker 1: comes in contact with patients like that. I feel it
Speaker 1: is my duty as an advocate for these patients. I
Speaker 1: will do anything, but I feel that I have tried
Speaker 1: pretty much everything. I don't care if I ever get
Speaker 1: justice for what he did to me. I just want
Speaker 1: him fired or just out of there. Uh. Then she
Speaker 1: signed her name and she has PS. I have plenty
Speaker 1: of funny e ms Penis Vagina calls you won't believe
Speaker 1: a real which I would love to hear about another time.
Speaker 1: You're always going to end on a happy but in
Speaker 1: this instance, you were raped in an ambulance and that
Speaker 1: person raped you in the ambulance is now taking care
Speaker 1: of rape victims in a hospital. After you went to
Speaker 1: the fucking police and you went to fucking E. M.
Speaker 1: S people and they were not helpful. That is so
Speaker 1: fucking Oh Mike. When I read that email for I
Speaker 1: was like walking down the street or something, and I
Speaker 1: remember he yelled like, are you fucking kidding me? I
Speaker 1: just I don't. I don't know if there's anything that
Speaker 1: school could do. I mean there is, I mean, this
Speaker 1: is what it was. This is an instance of where
Speaker 1: social media can win. You know, I'm pretty against like
Speaker 1: calling people out for social media. She did everything she
Speaker 1: possibly could do, like the text books. Here's what you
Speaker 1: do when you get ready. She did the textbook things,
Speaker 1: but this is this email right here is why that
Speaker 1: girl carried a mattress on her back for the entire semester.
Speaker 1: It's because people aren't being heard, so then they have
Speaker 1: to do guerrilla tactics to get to be heard. This
Speaker 1: that's what you need. You need to You need to
Speaker 1: take social You did all the you did all the
Speaker 1: right ways. You contacted all the people who are supposed
Speaker 1: to help us, all the organizations that are set up
Speaker 1: to be advocates, and you're absolutely right. So now what
Speaker 1: you need to do is you need to fucking take
Speaker 1: matters into your own hand and take it onto social media.
Speaker 1: Like that's what you do. The only problem with that
Speaker 1: is you run the risk of losing your job. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because which isn't fair. Yeah, it's not fair, I mean,
Speaker 1: but but also, uh, you know, one of the rapists
Speaker 1: in the UCB community was is outed after the person
Speaker 1: who one of the people that he raped went to
Speaker 1: the police and they didn't do fucking ship. And now
Speaker 1: this person is no longer a part of the New
Speaker 1: York City comedy community because those people fucking went on
Speaker 1: social media, and it's spread and I got mad and
Speaker 1: I posted about it and I contributed towards it, and
Speaker 1: we all did so fucking got HM out of the
Speaker 1: community when we try to the legal way quote unquote yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean, And it's also like, and you
Speaker 1: don't even need need, like necessarily need to even put
Speaker 1: yourself in the forefront. I mean, if you can get
Speaker 1: it into our hands, if you can get it into
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of celebrities who are really
Speaker 1: great with stuff like this, Rose McGowan, Kesha, those are
Speaker 1: people who are real advocates for situations like that's obviously
Speaker 1: it happened to Kesha and McGowan. Um is constantly posting
Speaker 1: on social media. On Instagram, people with a following will
Speaker 1: help you get someone to write a newspaper article about it,
Speaker 1: Like those are the kinds of things that you do.
Speaker 1: And if anyone's list, if anybody's listening and you want
Speaker 1: to write about this, sorry about last night show gmail
Speaker 1: dot com, we can put you in contact with the
Speaker 1: person if she gives this permission to nically, we have
Speaker 1: to make sure that's okay. But um, we've done it
Speaker 1: before with the fucking with Caitlin the hockey girl. She
Speaker 1: was she when she wrote us the email, and she
Speaker 1: wanted to come forward and with her first and last name, UM.
Speaker 1: And she talked to BuzzFeed, and she talked to Huffing
Speaker 1: to Post. And now the league is allegedly doing something
Speaker 1: about it. And I say allegedly because I'm not quite
Speaker 1: sure if they are or not, but hopefully they are. No,
Speaker 1: this is our favorite thing to do where you know
Speaker 1: podcast vigilantes. Hell, yes, uh, this is you know, this
Speaker 1: is the kind of change that we really need to see.
Speaker 1: And it's so important that people are outspoken about it.
Speaker 1: And I mean I would go to a protest. I
Speaker 1: will protest this hospital, right, I mean, you just have
Speaker 1: to really make a stink. Do you think if this
Speaker 1: girl goes to this guy who raped her h and
Speaker 1: and and warned him that she's going to do that,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that. That's how, that's how that that's
Speaker 1: just is um because then maybe he I don't know
Speaker 1: what he's gonna do. Its gonna turn himself in. This
Speaker 1: guy is completely untrustworthy. That's the kind of thing where
Speaker 1: she's gonna get like punched in the face or something.
Speaker 1: This guy is a maniac, he's a loose tenant, he's
Speaker 1: he he's not to be trusted to do this once.
Speaker 1: And it's not only that he raped her, it's the
Speaker 1: manner in which he did. It was violent, it was aggressive.
Speaker 1: He he was using his power in a corrupt way.
Speaker 1: There were just so many things that were alarming. This.
Speaker 1: This was not uh you know, he thought that they
Speaker 1: were having sex on a date and then she said
Speaker 1: no in the middle of it, which is also not okay.
Speaker 1: But this was so over the top aggressive. This guy's
Speaker 1: not trusted. Absolutely, do not be alone in a room
Speaker 1: with this guy. He's unsafe. He should not. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: he shouldn't be alone with anybody, let alone a rape victim. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I totally get Oh that's horrible, that's
Speaker 1: fucking atrocious. Yeah, and it's sad that even organizations uh didn't.
Speaker 1: But the thing is it doesn't surprise me because you're
Speaker 1: sometimes when you're so close to the top, it gets
Speaker 1: so political that everyone is just looking out for each other.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I just waunched who took Johnny,
Speaker 1: which will discuss in a later episode. But we fucking
Speaker 1: I mean, police are not all police officers. But some
Speaker 1: police officers are part of like a high level pedophilia ring.
Speaker 1: So like you can't trust anyone, and I never, I
Speaker 1: never want to say anything that makes people scared to
Speaker 1: report a rape or uncomfortable going to a hospital. You should,
Speaker 1: you know, your first instinct in those situations should be
Speaker 1: to trust. But but but do not think just because
Speaker 1: someone is a police officer or works at a hospital
Speaker 1: or works as an e M S person that they
Speaker 1: are not just a normal human person who could be
Speaker 1: a fund up piece of ship. Just always know that
Speaker 1: and trust your fucking instincts. If you if something smells fishy,
Speaker 1: something's probably fishy, and it's your body, and you always
Speaker 1: have a right to ask for another doctor, to ask
Speaker 1: for another person to handle your case, like you have
Speaker 1: the rights it happened to you. You are a person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so let us know what you if you want to
Speaker 1: help and make it as think, because holy sh it,
Speaker 1: we will fucking stink up the whole world. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: person not I know it doesn't matter to you, but
Speaker 1: this person absolutely does need to know what he did
Speaker 1: to you was super wrong. He needs to pay for that,
Speaker 1: and he needs to uh lose his position because he's
Speaker 1: not fit for us being in a service industry. It's
Speaker 1: not like service interestring that like a community medical industry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely not. Uh yeah, anyway, so sorry that happened to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: damn it. That email made me so mad. Yeah, whatever,
Speaker 1: you should. But that's why we read emails like this
Speaker 1: because you should get mad. Everyone listening should be mad
Speaker 1: right now, and everyone should want to fucking do something.
Speaker 1: And if we were at every single fucking email we've
Speaker 1: ever gotten from somebody who's rapes, if we read every
Speaker 1: email that we've gotten from someone who was raped in
Speaker 1: the past week, like, we wouldn't have a time. We
Speaker 1: wouldn't have time to interview anybody. Yeah, speak out, don't
Speaker 1: be scared. Uh. If everyone just keeps speaking out, at
Speaker 1: a certain point, everyone's ears will be fucking bleeding and
Speaker 1: it will not be something that can be ignored anymore.
Speaker 1: It's been ignored for too long. Um. Alright, on that note, Hey,
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Speaker 1: want to. I'm a late bloomer in the world, right,
Speaker 1: So what that means is is that I had a
Speaker 1: dad who made sex sound like my dad was, you know,
Speaker 1: West Indian, very macho, and he was like, you ain't
Speaker 1: the woman unless you totally wore the brakes off of
Speaker 1: a pussy, right, WHOA, what does that mean? It basically
Speaker 1: means that you made it so that the pussy did
Speaker 1: not want to stop. So okay, so I would think
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Speaker 1: so much about sex that I didn't want to have it. Oh.
Speaker 1: I just felt like, there's no way I'm gonna live
Speaker 1: up to the ship he's talking about. There's no way,
Speaker 1: no humanly way too. Is that secretly what he wanted
Speaker 1: to do though, to avoid you having to wait as
Speaker 1: long as you could with My dad's been trying to
Speaker 1: hook me with women since I was six six, man,
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Speaker 1: completely he corrupted the mind of this child when it
Speaker 1: came to sex. So I found like a really intimidating thing.
Speaker 1: And so I started having sex maybe when I was seventeen, sixteen, seventeen,
Speaker 1: and then um, you know, and I had learned it
Speaker 1: was funny. I learned a lot when I went to
Speaker 1: the military, like things that guys do and what night
Speaker 1: you know, when girls do. But I didn't really learn
Speaker 1: how to make you know, just guys were just talking
Speaker 1: about ship that they did, about women, about the way
Speaker 1: that they masturbated, about that they had done with what
Speaker 1: I tell each other about their ways they masturbate. Yo, Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: because I was like, I was under this impression that
Speaker 1: guys didn't talk to each other about sex. I know,
Speaker 1: it's like your your trailblazing through this. We need to
Speaker 1: stop and and I want to put the brakes on
Speaker 1: that on some more details out of you. What did
Speaker 1: they say? Well, you know, just guys were just talking about, like,
Speaker 1: you know what. The way that guys talk about it
Speaker 1: isn't like, you know, it's not like some serious thing.
Speaker 1: It's like guys are cracking jokes about the way that
Speaker 1: they do it. So so one guy might say, yeah,
Speaker 1: you probably beat off with you know, with the sock
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, and guy goes close and go close,
Speaker 1: and the doodles say what I do is and you'll
Speaker 1: be like, get the funk out of here, mattress. No,
Speaker 1: but I've heard that one to put in between the
Speaker 1: mattress heard that too take like they take some kind
Speaker 1: of warm thing in plastic and they put it inside
Speaker 1: of a like a sock that they double folded, and
Speaker 1: then they put it inside of a mattress, you know,
Speaker 1: in between the mattress and the box, exactly, And I
Speaker 1: you know, I never heard ship like that, you know,
Speaker 1: so here I was, yeah, exactly. Up until that point,
Speaker 1: I was a little too macho to even consider masturbation.
Speaker 1: What macho for masturbation? Because I grew up in the hood,
Speaker 1: and in the hood you hear brothers be like, man,
Speaker 1: funk that and they gotta get pussy. I don't gotta
Speaker 1: do that, ship, so you had to. They were all
Speaker 1: lyne and even if you do get pussy. But I'm
Speaker 1: an extreme personality. So if you tell me that you
Speaker 1: do a thousand push ups in the morning, I'm really
Speaker 1: gonna do a thousand push ups in the morning. That's
Speaker 1: why you're famous, you know, because I'm touramented in damaged
Speaker 1: and you worked hard because of that exactly. In the
Speaker 1: industry loves to exploit that. But yeah, totally does the
Speaker 1: industry exploit your sexuality. You know, there was a point
Speaker 1: where there was an ad in like not an add
Speaker 1: but there was an article about me losing my virginia
Speaker 1: the age of six in in um in l A Times,
Speaker 1: And because of the fact that the media was so
Speaker 1: stupid and willing to fall for that that I just
Speaker 1: kind of let it ride. You know. So you're saying
Speaker 1: that's not true. You know, you didn't funk at six
Speaker 1: years old. I don't think. Okay, there's an instance where
Speaker 1: definitely I had hooked up with like a thirteen year
Speaker 1: old babysitter when I was six years old, but you
Speaker 1: were it wasn't a hook up or that she's kind
Speaker 1: of you know what. I was very viceful as well.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I've kind of been introduced early. I
Speaker 1: think I was masturbating by the age of six, right,
Speaker 1: So I would have been like, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: at it if you want to touch me. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, should a thirteen year old no better?
Speaker 1: I don't know. And you know what, if you think
Speaker 1: about this, when you're masturbating at the age of six,
Speaker 1: it wasn't with an end goal, was it. It was
Speaker 1: like this feels good. Yeah, it was just like, let's
Speaker 1: explore this button. And that's exactly and that was my thing.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you know, this is what you know,
Speaker 1: this would seem to feel good and anyway, so I
Speaker 1: got caught like you know, uh, you know, hav an
Speaker 1: anal sex with this thirteen year old woman girl. I'm
Speaker 1: really kidding, Like I was like, dude, dick, couldn't even
Speaker 1: get what are you talking? Six year old? No, but
Speaker 1: we got caught like messing around, like you know, with
Speaker 1: our clothes off, and um, I mean that's also like
Speaker 1: a childhood exploration is a thing like Lena Dunna wrote
Speaker 1: about in a book and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: everyone like she molester her sister. When I was fucking six,
Speaker 1: I had a very My best friend was in my
Speaker 1: neighbor who was a male, and we would like touch
Speaker 1: each other's butts and play boy girl, which just meant
Speaker 1: like we pretending we were adults. And then he would
Speaker 1: touch my breast that I didn't even have yet, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know what the funk this is,
Speaker 1: but I like it exactly. I guess I hooked up
Speaker 1: at six to exactly. And I really have to say that,
Speaker 1: in my personal opinion, one of the things is somewhere
Speaker 1: down the line, we got permission to be open about it,
Speaker 1: where a lot of people don't, and that's why, probably
Speaker 1: why we're sitting here in entertainment and there's someone else
Speaker 1: who is like crying. Yeah so but yeah, man, so
Speaker 1: you know that. I told that story to Judge when
Speaker 1: we were doing Fourdio Virgin and the l a time
Speaker 1: just loved that, and I'm like, come on, they play
Speaker 1: it out naked hump seas and smell your finger when
Speaker 1: they're six. I know, right, I mean I was always
Speaker 1: in my baby book it was like age sex playing
Speaker 1: naked humps. Yeah that sounds fun. I still love that.
Speaker 1: I love a good makeout session, no sex, Let that
Speaker 1: build up and then later we can go home. Yeah
Speaker 1: I like that. And yeah, you make out in public,
Speaker 1: I love it. I don't care a king. I love
Speaker 1: making out period. So making out it's fun. But I
Speaker 1: like a dance with your mouth. It's like as right, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like and it's also it's just like to me,
Speaker 1: it's like intimate and you get really really um you
Speaker 1: can you know. I don't know how to explain it,
Speaker 1: but it's so sensual to me, it is, and it's
Speaker 1: very intimate. It's like but like like we talk a
Speaker 1: lot of times, like a blowjob or going down on
Speaker 1: a woman is sometimes seems more intimate than sex, because
Speaker 1: that is a very that's a vulnerable thing once you start,
Speaker 1: especially if you learn, if you learn her he either
Speaker 1: their body exactly. There is some kind of satisfaction you
Speaker 1: have to get in being able to give pleasure to
Speaker 1: that degree. Yes, are you? Are you a giver? I
Speaker 1: am definitely, and that I'm an over I used to
Speaker 1: be an overcompensator, and I was overcompensating because I was
Speaker 1: still under the impression I had to wear the brakes
Speaker 1: off of the pussy. So because of that, you guys say,
Speaker 1: I was an over compensator. And it really took me
Speaker 1: time to to and like and therapy and meditation to
Speaker 1: like go oh wait a minute, wait a minute, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, wait a minute, something is wrong here. How
Speaker 1: would you wear brakes off of a pussy? Um? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like what would you do? What the kind of things
Speaker 1: did you try to do? Okay? No, okay, So I'm
Speaker 1: going to tell you what I put a spin on it,
Speaker 1: which is dishonest. When my dad says where the breaks
Speaker 1: up a pussy, he basically means makes some you know,
Speaker 1: where she's sore, numb, whatever the case is, right, so
Speaker 1: maker comme until she's in pain, well not in pain,
Speaker 1: worn out. I think that he was talking more from
Speaker 1: an insense of displace place where he was talking from
Speaker 1: the perspective of like just basically there was a macho
Speaker 1: thing about sucking a woman until she couldn't take it anymore.
Speaker 1: That's sucking. And so where I changed it was I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, you get it slicking up,
Speaker 1: that's the same thing, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: was just being an idiot um so in his in
Speaker 1: in his regard, I think that he had a lot
Speaker 1: more to do with just being um lasting forever, and
Speaker 1: he thought like his version of a man having sex
Speaker 1: was the man lasts very long. But then women don't
Speaker 1: like that, No they don't. And you know it's it's
Speaker 1: like you can stop now exactly. I mean, when you're
Speaker 1: absolutely right. In fact, I love the kind of act
Speaker 1: that you have where you have a great intense moment,
Speaker 1: you have like a few great orgasms, you stop, you talk,
Speaker 1: you do something, and then you go back to it again,
Speaker 1: you know, to where it's like I'm just so good,
Speaker 1: I just gotta thank the heavens. I am not involved
Speaker 1: with someone where I want to have sex with you
Speaker 1: and then I want to get away from you. Oh right.
Speaker 1: That changes the dynamics of how sex goes. And I
Speaker 1: know there a lot of single people out there who
Speaker 1: are just kind of getting their jollys and like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's get on with it. I like the long, drawn out,
Speaker 1: hanging out all day kind of Yeah. And if you
Speaker 1: have kids, I guess that's kind of difficult. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, short beautiful boom you know is as
Speaker 1: good as a good one. I just wanted. I want
Speaker 1: heightened sensuality throughout, that's all. Did you ever tell your
Speaker 1: dad that maybe his advice wasn't good at all, so
Speaker 1: that it sucked you up for a long time? Yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: I was No, I didn't tell him that it sucked
Speaker 1: me up for a long time, but I would throw
Speaker 1: jabs at him and be like so yo, so with
Speaker 1: you know, with your you know, I was in plus
Speaker 1: conquests and their ability to wear the breaks off the pussy,
Speaker 1: I'm like, just slit up. What do you bill? Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: I was like, what do you have to show for?
Speaker 1: Like what you know, what do you think you get
Speaker 1: out of it and that's a good question ask. And
Speaker 1: in his later years he was like, you know, absolutely
Speaker 1: nothing really, maybe just to struggle the ego, maybe just
Speaker 1: to hear someone say that you still got it. And
Speaker 1: and he was like, you know, and he was a me.
Speaker 1: He admit, you know's the waste of a lot of
Speaker 1: time and energy and unnecessary drama say stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And he said and he even said, you know what, man,
Speaker 1: look dude, fifteen twenty minutes of He ended up saying
Speaker 1: this seriously in his like fifties, like fifteen twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: My dad died at sixty three. Fifteen twenty minutes of like,
Speaker 1: you know, good sex. He said, you don't hurt yourself,
Speaker 1: don't hurt anyone. So it was a man who grown up. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, my parents had me young, so I got
Speaker 1: to witness him growing whenever, you know, And so you know,
Speaker 1: I kind of I feel like I got to see
Speaker 1: my dad grow up to the best of his ability.
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice, because it's you know, there are moments
Speaker 1: where we all realize, like, oh, my parents aren't perfect. Shit,
Speaker 1: Maybe that advice they gave it wasn't the best. It's
Speaker 1: hard because when you're young you do take everything like
Speaker 1: parents and teachers say, like as gospel, and then when
Speaker 1: you grow up you're like reflecting and like, well wow.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was necessarily the smartest thing
Speaker 1: or the thing I needed to hear at that time.
Speaker 1: And I will just throw out there that what I
Speaker 1: didn't know was that a child doesn't really begin thinking
Speaker 1: like in an abstract way until he's about eight, seven
Speaker 1: or eight. Maybe girls might be a little earlier, but
Speaker 1: you don't have any so everything is so extremely literal.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I remember I came home once my
Speaker 1: neighbor said, okay, Christina Bie, we'll see you later. And
Speaker 1: I came home and my dad. I told my mom
Speaker 1: the neighbors said to see us later. We're going over
Speaker 1: there again for a party or something. And my mom
Speaker 1: was like, no, you're dumb, but you're right. Everything is
Speaker 1: so literal when there again. And I come from West
Speaker 1: Indian culture. My family really wanted to break where the
Speaker 1: brakes off the pussy. I'm like, yo, so what the
Speaker 1: fun you know I'm in And like I come from
Speaker 1: a lineage like I don't know how how far am
Speaker 1: I going here, but like I'm not kidding my grandfather,
Speaker 1: my dad all just hung like like animals dicks. How
Speaker 1: relatives dicks? Have you seen? Well, you know all of
Speaker 1: my relatives dicks like from dadding. People walk around naked
Speaker 1: with their dicks out. It's attached to your body. Like yeah,
Speaker 1: we take literally no clothes. When I lived in Littleton, Queens,
Speaker 1: we took showers in our backyard. Oh ship. My neighbors
Speaker 1: with christ neighbors okay, way too okay with all their
Speaker 1: relatives were hung. People were like yo, man, dude bays
Speaker 1: in the backyard like an animal, like crack jokes and like,
Speaker 1: I really didn't understand it was a big deal until
Speaker 1: American neighbors started being like what the fun do? They
Speaker 1: were just keeping what they wanted to do, their practices
Speaker 1: a live. But what I was going to say is
Speaker 1: that we just in Caribbean culture. And I can't speak
Speaker 1: for every family because there are variations, of course, but
Speaker 1: at least in my family and nudity was nudity has
Speaker 1: never been a big deal, which I it shouldn't be.
Speaker 1: And I know, I I know some families that no
Speaker 1: one gives a funk, Like the nudity didn't weird, like
Speaker 1: if I was sleeping over my friend's house and their
Speaker 1: mom would be in her room and she would take
Speaker 1: her shirt off and no one would give a ship
Speaker 1: and I'd be like her, poops her, you see, and
Speaker 1: everyone's like, who fucking cares? Exactly. What sucked me up
Speaker 1: was more about what my parents said. What I saw.
Speaker 1: What they said was like, what did your mom say
Speaker 1: anything about sex? My mom was very prudish. But what
Speaker 1: was really dope about it was if I had a question,
Speaker 1: she blew no smoke. Oh that's great, mom. Where do
Speaker 1: babies come from? How do you get how do you
Speaker 1: get this lung? She's pregnant, my my my brother? Right?
Speaker 1: How did you get that? What what happened here? She
Speaker 1: break that ship down, break out the encyclopedia, show me
Speaker 1: how human being to do it, and then show me
Speaker 1: how animals did it, and be like, this's the difference
Speaker 1: between a reptile and a mammal and be like, and
Speaker 1: I was like my mom looking back, I'm like, my
Speaker 1: mom is a freaking Yeah. That was the best possible
Speaker 1: way to handle that. It really was, And like and
Speaker 1: so what I swear to you were just talking about
Speaker 1: this the other day with with with with my girlfriend,
Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, I really think that
Speaker 1: my mother explaining these things to me made me extremely
Speaker 1: precautious about how I went about engaging in sex and
Speaker 1: always be protecting myself and whatnot, let's sake of not
Speaker 1: wanting to accidentally get anyone pregnant. And I didn't even
Speaker 1: think about that until that conversation we would have in
Speaker 1: the other day, right, And I think some people are
Speaker 1: hesitant to talk to their kids about sex because they
Speaker 1: don't want them having too much information, Like information is dangerous,
Speaker 1: But I think information is so powerful and you can
Speaker 1: use it to protect yourself. And like just walking around,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you knew so much more than your classmates.
Speaker 1: Did you ever have to like dispel any rumors that
Speaker 1: you heard people talking about because you knew the truth? No,
Speaker 1: you know. It's it's funny because one thing that I learned,
Speaker 1: especially growing up, let me take some thing. Look, you
Speaker 1: grow up in a really poor community. And when I
Speaker 1: say poor community, I've been blessed to have lived in
Speaker 1: to have grown up in the projects, but to have
Speaker 1: grown up in trailer parks and to have grown up
Speaker 1: in a uh you know, Caribbean, third world country. So
Speaker 1: it's like exactly. It's a lot of variation and a
Speaker 1: lot of like you know, so you get to see
Speaker 1: all the different walks of life. And the beautiful thing
Speaker 1: about it is is that if you want to act right,
Speaker 1: you know how, so I know what's appropriate. So if
Speaker 1: I were to, you know, express things or talk about
Speaker 1: sexuality in in certain communities, particularly poor communities, I was
Speaker 1: basically setting myself up. I was either setting myself up
Speaker 1: to get asked further down the line or to be ridiculed.
Speaker 1: And so I saw a lot of things that just
Speaker 1: kind of kept myself And then I started when when
Speaker 1: when when you're in class and talking about that, I
Speaker 1: had to be careful because I started realizing that the
Speaker 1: way that we West Indians went about things wasn't necessarily
Speaker 1: comfortable for the way in which Americans when so I
Speaker 1: had learned I was learning how to manipulate and learning
Speaker 1: how to curb and very self aware with everybody's boundaries exactly,
Speaker 1: which I think has has benefited me throughout my entire life.
Speaker 1: You know, I can come into a room and take
Speaker 1: care of pretty much any group of people. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then I had to unlearn needing to take care of people. Well,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, that's a burden that away on
Speaker 1: you heavily when you become an adult and try to
Speaker 1: make everybody happy. Oh my god. It took me probably
Speaker 1: well into my thirties to be comfortable enough around people
Speaker 1: to not feel to be comfortable in the comfortable in
Speaker 1: the company of people who did not need to be
Speaker 1: taken care of. Have you has that ever leaked in
Speaker 1: a relationship? Um, every every relationship. I mean, because I'm
Speaker 1: a pleaser and I'm a I need to make sure
Speaker 1: you're happy, and if you're not happy, then that's my priority.
Speaker 1: But it's like, well, maybe they need to be unappy
Speaker 1: about something to figure it out. You don't have to
Speaker 1: fix secrecy. It's true, man, my fucking you know, my
Speaker 1: friends they'd be like, my black friends call it this
Speaker 1: nigger got that Captain save the Whole syndrome and say
Speaker 1: I'm big time. You know that? And by the way,
Speaker 1: who kids might have gotten that from the original Captain
Speaker 1: Sable Whole song, which was written by Efforty. Oh he
Speaker 1: probably did that. Don't save her? And then you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And then there's you know, and then
Speaker 1: you know, my white friends like, oh, you have what's
Speaker 1: called the wounded bird syndrome. And then my Latin friends,
Speaker 1: all my Latin friends is like, no, that ship is
Speaker 1: called that stupid doo. Every racial group as a totally
Speaker 1: different but it's the same thing. And like, you know,
Speaker 1: I was married and divorced ones and I'm married to
Speaker 1: help someone. By the way you married, um you know
Speaker 1: what said, I can't call well, not that she's a whole,
Speaker 1: but that that yes, in that sentiment, the sense that
Speaker 1: we did, a lot of our motivation for getting married
Speaker 1: had to do with, um, you know, um getting citizenship
Speaker 1: United States, being able to travel back and forth because
Speaker 1: a couple of her family members had gotten sick and
Speaker 1: she couldn't cross the border. So I was going over
Speaker 1: there and spending time in the hospitals with her family
Speaker 1: when she couldn't. So we ended up just getting married
Speaker 1: to expedite the whole process, and boom, she was able
Speaker 1: to go over But that was definitely a captain's ab
Speaker 1: a home move. But I would never call her a
Speaker 1: home right so anyway, um so anyway, so yeah, So
Speaker 1: it is a burden. It does wear you down. And
Speaker 1: it was then it was in that marriage and divorce
Speaker 1: that I actually began to understand that I had actually
Speaker 1: built because of my personal sense of inadequacy in so
Speaker 1: many different areas. I was building subconsciously. From the age
Speaker 1: of about twelve. I was surrounding myself with people that
Speaker 1: I thought were dependent because and the reason was because
Speaker 1: I had my mother up and vanished when I was twelve,
Speaker 1: for the right reasons, mind you. The other day she
Speaker 1: showed me a letter I had written to her when
Speaker 1: I was like seven, explaining to her that I wanted
Speaker 1: her to get her nerve and her spirit back, and
Speaker 1: if that meant leaving my father, I completely supported it. Oh,
Speaker 1: how wise of a seven year old you. I was like,
Speaker 1: they used to call me Papa. I was like, because
Speaker 1: that was so, I know, like, you're hooking up, you're
Speaker 1: giving your mom. This is be free Birdie. Was well
Speaker 1: written letter. Did I vote to my mom you gotta
Speaker 1: leave pops. I think it's important because you have to.
Speaker 1: You you can't afford to lose your nerve. It's what
Speaker 1: makes you. Yeah, it makes her her, And she before
Speaker 1: she's a mother, before she's a wife, she is a woman.
Speaker 1: She is her and you need to preserve that and
Speaker 1: say that and nurture that I'm sorry, go no, I
Speaker 1: was understand what what like? What at seven? Do you
Speaker 1: recall witnessing anything that made you write that letter? You know,
Speaker 1: I think my dad had some turn into I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, he's telling a six year old son to
Speaker 1: like where the breaks off the pussy? Yeah, exactly. He
Speaker 1: was very viceful, very unresolved. He drank a lot. He
Speaker 1: was a true womanizer. And you know, for my mother
Speaker 1: being the type of person who was more concerned with
Speaker 1: what other people thought, and being a someone who grew
Speaker 1: up with a very unhealthy relationship with her father father,
Speaker 1: I don't think that she was able to really gauge
Speaker 1: and understand how unhealthy that was and how it was
Speaker 1: recreating itself in the relationship that she was having with men,
Speaker 1: and so her being spoiled and her being the youngest
Speaker 1: and her being extremely sheltered, she wasn't really gifted with
Speaker 1: the two and her being a model. She came to
Speaker 1: America because she won like a beauty contest and the
Speaker 1: compete in the USA, her being you know, living in
Speaker 1: this fairy tale, she just wasn't equipped with the tools.
Speaker 1: And this is why what you were saying earlier really
Speaker 1: resonates with me, which is that it's true. It's you know,
Speaker 1: you people we interpret information as like you know, a
Speaker 1: hazard with our children, when I feel like the truth is,
Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do to stop your kids from
Speaker 1: getting in the ship, but you can arm them with
Speaker 1: the tools to dig themselves out of that ship. It's
Speaker 1: such a good tool information. And so you know, giving
Speaker 1: that's a problem that we have in the United States,
Speaker 1: which is that you know, we are taught in a
Speaker 1: way to become assembly line citizens. And now when you
Speaker 1: go when you apply for a grant or whatever, a
Speaker 1: big thing when you check the boxes is critical thinking, right,
Speaker 1: because um, what what has happened is where a society
Speaker 1: who um, we need we we know how to memorize,
Speaker 1: and we need any equation that doesn't require critic critical
Speaker 1: thinking and you know, in order. And this is why
Speaker 1: I like, there's so many tech jobs available, but there
Speaker 1: are people here to take them because that requires so
Speaker 1: much more independent thinking. And the same goes for the
Speaker 1: way our entertainment plays out. The same way goes for
Speaker 1: the way in which we are deal with politics and
Speaker 1: everything else. So forgive my tangent here, no, but critical
Speaker 1: thinking is what makes like art good or bad, and
Speaker 1: it's to me when I see or any art that
Speaker 1: lacks critical thinking, I'm I'm offended because I think it's
Speaker 1: fucking lazy and it's pointless and why did you waste
Speaker 1: my time in your time? Which is why I have
Speaker 1: to plug this product critical thinking manual. I'm kidding, I
Speaker 1: don't know, uh, but yeah, so anyway, um, but that
Speaker 1: anything everything in your life, like relationships, relations to everything,
Speaker 1: It's true, it's it's a big part of processing pain.
Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer that your pain is your pathway
Speaker 1: to your process. Right. We're when we're we're we're in
Speaker 1: a society where you're taught to hide your pain. And
Speaker 1: by hiding, if you're a man, especially if we had
Speaker 1: to last night we had, it's actually even worse for
Speaker 1: black men though you are. Yeah, I look, I can't
Speaker 1: speak for every man. I have been blessed to have
Speaker 1: grown up in in in you know, variety of communities,
Speaker 1: but I will tell you that in the black community
Speaker 1: to really interesting to me, how we are told to
Speaker 1: mask our emotion, how we're told to man up, to
Speaker 1: suck it up, and then when we get older and
Speaker 1: then the real ship hits the fan. We're told to
Speaker 1: let God handle it. How the fun that is the
Speaker 1: weight on your shoulders no human can fucking endure. I
Speaker 1: believe that's why black people die so early, so young
Speaker 1: in America. I sincerely believe that what we have to
Speaker 1: internalize is a big part of it. Man, Oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just watched the documentary. They're totally fun. And I'm
Speaker 1: a person that I think that white people need to
Speaker 1: fucking educate themselves on issues that other because I think
Speaker 1: that you meet some there's some fucking shitty white people
Speaker 1: out there, ignorant, uninformed. It is comfortable with being ignorant,
Speaker 1: and it's disgusting and I hate it. And so I
Speaker 1: think that everybody needs to educate themselves on the history
Speaker 1: of everything we all do. We all do. And I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. I'll tell what. I swear to God,
Speaker 1: I'm not plugging this. Okay you out? About a month
Speaker 1: before came out, yeah, I had released the video called
Speaker 1: The Racket of Racism. The video is nineteen minutes long.
Speaker 1: I should you not. It's at four million views on
Speaker 1: Facebook right now, and in the thread there are people
Speaker 1: of all colors going, I didn't know this about this,
Speaker 1: that's way better than a comment threads. There are people
Speaker 1: that are like, I'm devoting my life to this. It's
Speaker 1: the white people, Middle Eastern, you name it, Southeast Asian,
Speaker 1: and they're like, I'm devoting my life to this. Thank
Speaker 1: you so. And don't get me wrong, you had the
Speaker 1: people who came in and were like, because the way
Speaker 1: that my video is done is just kind of making
Speaker 1: fun of the situation more so than trying to be well.
Speaker 1: Colony can be a powerful tool in educating people and
Speaker 1: spreading knowledge and also just making a point because it's
Speaker 1: an entertaining way to receive the point. So that's why
Speaker 1: I think people listen to this podcast is because we
Speaker 1: make a point about a lot of things, but it's
Speaker 1: funny so people can digest it. And when it's funny,
Speaker 1: you give people permission to laugh at themselves. And unfortunately
Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't grow up with that benefit.
Speaker 1: Which yeah, and but but I was saying that I
Speaker 1: know that when the material is presented without a chip
Speaker 1: on your shoulder, but when it's presented from a very
Speaker 1: objective place, and also just from living in trailer parks
Speaker 1: where we're the only black family in the trailer park,
Speaker 1: is that people, people who I know to this day,
Speaker 1: who prided themselves on being rednecks. When people have human
Speaker 1: interaction and they are forced to see you as human,
Speaker 1: their perspectives change. And I don't care how hokey and
Speaker 1: cornya sound. That's the reality. I have had people who
Speaker 1: call themselves redness parental comes take up from me because
Speaker 1: they thought I was being bullied by other rednecks. May
Speaker 1: nobody go bully my boy. If anybody go bully this snigger,
Speaker 1: I'm going to bully. They won't be you, okay, you
Speaker 1: know which you know you got what they meant deep down? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, but you know, And it's just I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm actually taking it to another level. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's just that I I created friends. I had created
Speaker 1: genuine friends who understood suddenly that it's defensive to use
Speaker 1: those words, who understood suddenly I was just as human,
Speaker 1: understood that, in fact, that I could help them with
Speaker 1: their homework. I have friends whose parents in trailer marks,
Speaker 1: whose parents would be like, Jacob's not feeling right, could
Speaker 1: you please come talk to him? He knew you, They
Speaker 1: got to know you as exactly it takes the real monster.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel privileged because the truth is that in
Speaker 1: our friendship there was no black white hierarchy. Frendship was
Speaker 1: that you know what I mean, and we kind of
Speaker 1: rolled together and we would roll we take all we
Speaker 1: go hunting together and everything back in those days. And
Speaker 1: so I'm just saying what's missing is we're being tricked
Speaker 1: into becoming these extreme individuals who should be afraid of
Speaker 1: one another. And that's fucking everything up. Fear is a
Speaker 1: powerful tool. It's used in so many ways. It's used
Speaker 1: it with race, with sex. It's just and we need
Speaker 1: to stop letting it. Yeah, agreed. And so really what
Speaker 1: I think what started this whole thing. We're just you're
Speaker 1: talking about information being a powerful tool in the long run,
Speaker 1: like you know, hiding, not talking about sexuality or whatever
Speaker 1: it is. Um, And somehow we ended up leaping into this.
Speaker 1: I forgot what it was now. Well we we we
Speaker 1: we brought it up. It was about enough not to
Speaker 1: connect with your feeling as a manly as a black man,
Speaker 1: just not being able to because I remember I was, Um,
Speaker 1: I was talking to Michael Chay a while ago, he's
Speaker 1: a comic, and he was like he was saying, man
Speaker 1: autism is like a white people disease, And I was like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean he goes black people with autism?
Speaker 1: They just go, oh, he's not smart, and they fucking
Speaker 1: put him in the special classes like they don't. I'm like, fun,
Speaker 1: thought this was years ago that he told me this.
Speaker 1: But I was like, you saw the movie Precious They
Speaker 1: called the child Mango. That's so fun. There was no, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so fun. But here's the thing that's I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: It's okay. So we're back on so so talking about
Speaker 1: thirteenth really quick, right, So the video breaks. The movie
Speaker 1: breaks down systematically how slavery has sustained. It's just basically
Speaker 1: gone from a private tension to a corporate thing and
Speaker 1: it's the prison industrial complex. And people go, all, but
Speaker 1: blacks have had all these opportunities, but once they see this,
Speaker 1: they go, oh, they haven't. Then the exact same thing
Speaker 1: applies to housing segregation. And I will explain as best
Speaker 1: I can is that what happens is from the very beginning,
Speaker 1: suburbs were built for white people, and projects were built
Speaker 1: for blacks and immigrants. And so what ends up happening
Speaker 1: is the way in which schools are funded. It's through
Speaker 1: federal state and your property tax. Now, as you can see,
Speaker 1: these days, federal and state are kind of like funding
Speaker 1: prisons more than schools. So they started to pull back.
Speaker 1: So if you live in a poor community, you get
Speaker 1: you get a poor education basically, yeah, because your schools
Speaker 1: don't have any money. Boom exactly. Now, I've lived in
Speaker 1: Trinidad and Tobago where literally I lived in a house.
Speaker 1: We were not rich people, and you know, we had
Speaker 1: like a galvanized roof and everything there was you know,
Speaker 1: you couldn't keep a bat or anything from coming in
Speaker 1: the house. And because it was send the block for
Speaker 1: you know, for ventilation, and it was like yo, real talk.
Speaker 1: I got such a good education that I s two
Speaker 1: years of my life not going to school, just hanging
Speaker 1: out with my pops, spending another year in Trinidad just chilling,
Speaker 1: and still graduated on time in the United States. SHIPM.
Speaker 1: There's so many things so backwards. Yeah, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that you should not go to school or anything. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that black people, not just black people, white
Speaker 1: people exactly. Kids don't need to go to school with you,
Speaker 1: not me. Actually, I want to say that it's Jonathan
Speaker 1: Cozl or who wrote the book Dumbing us Down. He
Speaker 1: said kids should go to school for half the time
Speaker 1: that they go to school bills to day. Kids learn
Speaker 1: more from spending time with their parents. And it's true.
Speaker 1: That's what I was trying to say, is that we
Speaker 1: become better experts at and this is why back to
Speaker 1: critical thinking, this is why we become better experts at
Speaker 1: uh memorization and and like this false ideology than we
Speaker 1: do become experts in life. And that's why I believe
Speaker 1: people who come from other count tries come here and
Speaker 1: succeed at a much better rate because we're getting a
Speaker 1: false education. We're subscribing to it, We're buying into what
Speaker 1: the television tells us. Right, we're awarded for regurgitating things
Speaker 1: in America instead of being a free thinker exactly. And
Speaker 1: just with the way with the election bullshit, with the
Speaker 1: facts that are just completely false being thrown around like weapons,
Speaker 1: because it's like, well, if I want to argue with
Speaker 1: the Trump supporter, now I have to be very well
Speaker 1: read on everything that's going on so that I can
Speaker 1: defend myself. But I have the ship that I'm well
Speaker 1: read on his book, It's so like, what is happening exactly,
Speaker 1: and like, to me, this whole Trump Hill that we argument,
Speaker 1: it's like it's a pointless argument because ultimately the problem
Speaker 1: in our country is that we constantly had time and
Speaker 1: time again since at least since Nixon, maybe even Roosevelt.
Speaker 1: I don't know who. We're just sold out the people
Speaker 1: for big business, you know. And so now here we
Speaker 1: are with two people who are pro establishment. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what's it really fucking matter at this point? You know? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I learned all I learned about the Clinton, the
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, the fucking crime. Yes, man, that was such
Speaker 1: exactly you would be surprised. And then they showed a
Speaker 1: clip of Hillary saying superpretter back the nineties, and I
Speaker 1: was like, god, Darvi, Hillary, I swear, if you get
Speaker 1: a chance, you want to see some really crazy shit.
Speaker 1: Remember the video that they may bracket of races. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you get a chance, it's only nineteen minutes worth
Speaker 1: a long time actually, but if you've watched you it'll
Speaker 1: be shocking. Me and Able duven A used the same imagery,
Speaker 1: saying quotes everything, it's bizarre, it's bizarre. And but mine
Speaker 1: is just like sitting in my living room talking ship yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but anyway, but yes, exactly, And so at this point,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's it, Joseph de Masqui is like, you know, yo,
Speaker 1: great pronunciation. A nation gets, the nation gets the government
Speaker 1: it deserves. Well, we already got our government, pro establishment.
Speaker 1: Bottom line, you can do about it. And the thing
Speaker 1: is that the smoke screen is so off the chain.
Speaker 1: It's like if you if you really want to funk
Speaker 1: with your government, what you do is you stop you
Speaker 1: stopped buying from and spending money with the corporations that
Speaker 1: a lobbying for this government to do did they do
Speaker 1: to you? Money is the money is what talks. Money
Speaker 1: is powerful. When you start affecting people's pockets is when
Speaker 1: they're going to listen. So true man, And so yeah,
Speaker 1: when does or does raise affect your dating life or
Speaker 1: sex life in any way all the time? How so?
Speaker 1: How so? Um, it's weird. It's so so so funny
Speaker 1: because I was married once. Everyone's like, and I get this,
Speaker 1: And people will come to my page and be like,
Speaker 1: shut the funk up, nigga, you got a wife, you
Speaker 1: got a white girl at home? Whoa And I'll be
Speaker 1: like aggressive or like a friend of mine will post
Speaker 1: something back. Yeah, but he married a white girl, so
Speaker 1: he don't, you know, saying so he obviously don't like
Speaker 1: black women. And I'm like, I'm like, how the fund
Speaker 1: did they get that? My wife, my ex wife, white
Speaker 1: East fucking Indian? What the fuck? So they just want
Speaker 1: to get mad at sucking Indie and like my dad
Speaker 1: not like so I'm like, well what so? And then
Speaker 1: but it's again, it's the education of us reducing everything
Speaker 1: to black and white. Yeah, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And he is her actual skin? Does she appear to
Speaker 1: be lighter? So then what they were just making it up?
Speaker 1: Like it's just like a fucking political argument and she
Speaker 1: doesn't sixteen, there's making shut up. It's but nobody really,
Speaker 1: I got to be real. It's kind of what we
Speaker 1: do in this country. We just kind of reduced things
Speaker 1: to at least in the hood, we do, know, I
Speaker 1: think everybody does. I think that's such a common human thing.
Speaker 1: With the way information is thrown around and the way
Speaker 1: that you have to like learn things faster than it's
Speaker 1: like it's exhausting, and it feels like the internet's yelling
Speaker 1: at you. Well if you make things up that you
Speaker 1: don't actually have to know things and you can just
Speaker 1: adjust it to your own agenda, exactly your own agenda.
Speaker 1: Bottom line, you had friends that said like, oh, you
Speaker 1: were doing you were married? Or white women? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: my friends are by far beyond that. You Now, would
Speaker 1: that upset you when people who didn't know you got
Speaker 1: it that wrong? Or sometimes I would be like, you
Speaker 1: know what, let me just check, But then I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give the United States and education and culture.
Speaker 1: I'm like, if you're that far removed from unders from
Speaker 1: being able to discern between you know, Persian, you know Armenian,
Speaker 1: or or or or or or or you know East
Speaker 1: Indian or you know if you know what, it's like,
Speaker 1: you can't save everybody. So it's like they read the
Speaker 1: words East Indian or saw that somewhere and then in
Speaker 1: their head like thought of a white person. No, it's
Speaker 1: just that they saw a person who didn't look like
Speaker 1: they had, you know, African, you know, you know for Africa.
Speaker 1: And what's really crazy is is that my dad is
Speaker 1: East Indian and black Venezuelan, you know. So it's like
Speaker 1: when people speak about or make the Indian joke, there's
Speaker 1: a part of me, this like straight up like there's
Speaker 1: a part of me that takes takes offense to it
Speaker 1: that any kind of like racial joke that isn't about
Speaker 1: like like, I can deal with any record joke, but
Speaker 1: a racial joke if it's strictly about a stereotype, it
Speaker 1: the wrong way. It's just someone trying to piss somebody
Speaker 1: else exactly. And then look, I don't mind missor jokes.
Speaker 1: I grew up hearing them about me all the time
Speaker 1: and I would laugh it was funny. But I just
Speaker 1: feel like, for whatever reason, we as a culture could
Speaker 1: use some major lessons on on culture like and you know,
Speaker 1: and that to me is what that's where America has
Speaker 1: stripped us really well. Because if you go to Canada,
Speaker 1: if you go to anywhere else in the world, people
Speaker 1: really take pride in their heritage. And when you ask
Speaker 1: people where they're from here or where they're family from,
Speaker 1: where their heritage, they'll tell you North Carolina, South Carolina.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. But I'm talking like,
Speaker 1: you know, seriously, you know, you know, are you you know,
Speaker 1: country from Senegal? You know you They don't know, And
Speaker 1: they're like, how do you do that? Even if you
Speaker 1: go to Canada people like yeah, And I was born
Speaker 1: in you know, I was born in Edmonton, but my
Speaker 1: family is from you know, from West Africa, or my
Speaker 1: family is from Barbados, so you know, we stopped in
Speaker 1: North Carolina. Yeah, and just in my opinions, like we're American, Well,
Speaker 1: if we were fucking American, we'd be treated like human
Speaker 1: beings and citizens in this base. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that it wasn't that our motto and the land
Speaker 1: of the yeah, all of that. So it's like, I
Speaker 1: love the idea of people getting up and leaving this
Speaker 1: country long enough or enough. My dad afforded me this luxury.
Speaker 1: I grew up being able to see America from the
Speaker 1: outside in rather than from the inside. He probably got
Speaker 1: a great perspective from that. It's why it's probably why
Speaker 1: I live in Puerto Rico now live in Puerto Rico. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I totally. Yeah, Like you know, there's uh, there's a
Speaker 1: thing when you grow up and a lot of people
Speaker 1: who haven't. But I grew up seeing people who look
Speaker 1: like me and look like my dad. On the money.
Speaker 1: You saw Indian people Dr Eric Williams, and you know, um,
Speaker 1: I wasn't uh, you know, all these different influential people
Speaker 1: were running the news stations and they were on the money,
Speaker 1: and they were there were statues of them and so.
Speaker 1: And then I live in the other and the opposite extreme,
Speaker 1: where when you ask your here's to be teaching, well,
Speaker 1: what did black people contributed to the culture? Arts and crafts?
Speaker 1: Arts and crafts? You know, they built the country, correct,
Speaker 1: But you know, so I got to see both extremes,
Speaker 1: and for me it just seemed more being in a look.
Speaker 1: Then you can't deny the racial empathy gap. It's a
Speaker 1: legitimate study that was done by I can't remember who what,
Speaker 1: but this study basically tells you that, you know, it
Speaker 1: explained that people tend to empathize with people who reflect
Speaker 1: their own liking. So they did this test. It was
Speaker 1: really interesting where they were looking at Filipino nurses and
Speaker 1: nurses white everybody, all over the all over the world.
Speaker 1: And they what they found was to two people stuffing
Speaker 1: from the same amount of you know, same amount of pain,
Speaker 1: and the nurses would consistently administer less morphine to the
Speaker 1: black patient. And though they asked them, why did you
Speaker 1: do that? They go, I didn't but know what you did.
Speaker 1: But and it wasn't a conscious thing. And when they
Speaker 1: started evaluating it and probing it psychologically, they found that, honestly,
Speaker 1: people interpreted black people as being able to endure more pain.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a malicious it's just it's just it's the
Speaker 1: the method of the humanization that it's been used to
Speaker 1: justify why Native Americans need to be you know, killed
Speaker 1: and slaughtered, the same justifications being used for why blacks
Speaker 1: need to be incarcerated for using the same amount of
Speaker 1: drugs that whites used. And check this out. It's on
Speaker 1: record that drugs were pushed into the black community. It's
Speaker 1: not on record that drugs were pushed into the white community.
Speaker 1: That whites have managed to maintain the same amount of
Speaker 1: habitual drug used United States of America, Claus, what well,
Speaker 1: what the fun do white people got one up niggers
Speaker 1: on everything? You know what I was saying, you know,
Speaker 1: but I thought it. But the whole crack ball shit
Speaker 1: when crack came out, the fucking thing is okaye was
Speaker 1: in a different form in the in the buck and
Speaker 1: let's see the communities, and the cocaine was in more
Speaker 1: in the white communities, and the fucking penalty on it
Speaker 1: possessing crack was so much more than I was, like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I have absolute Honestly, like I were a non white person,
Speaker 1: I would probably I would not I would hate when really, yes,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what And that's what I'm saying. It's like
Speaker 1: I feel more human. I feel like one day this
Speaker 1: this happened. Oh God, I hope your fans don't think
Speaker 1: I'm a dick for this. Let's this is this is harsh.
Speaker 1: One day I walk in the Whole Foods let's not
Speaker 1: hear this, and I peeted on all the avocados. Funny,
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't hopeful on avocados. I did not.
Speaker 1: I did not know, but I was walking into it.
Speaker 1: Wasn't even hopeful because I've been trying to like pull
Speaker 1: back on that. So I walk into a grocery store
Speaker 1: because Hopeful. Was that a white remark or something about
Speaker 1: white people? No, no, no, I just try. I don't
Speaker 1: shop at Hopeful. They're opening one in Harlem. Does that
Speaker 1: make you matter? How well? Um, I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want to incriminate Whole Food. But if I'll
Speaker 1: just say this, I think that everyone listening to this podcast,
Speaker 1: if you are truthfully interested in in uh in hurting,
Speaker 1: not hurting, but interested in stopping unjust criminalization. If you're
Speaker 1: interested in in in in in in in stopping the
Speaker 1: prison and the private industrial companis and being so powerful
Speaker 1: in our judicial system and on Capitol Hill, you should
Speaker 1: go online and you should research what companies are benefiting
Speaker 1: from prison labor. And now when you say and then
Speaker 1: all you do is you just you just pull your
Speaker 1: money out. You go, Okay, well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna change my smartphone because i don't want to
Speaker 1: support that company and I'm not going to go to
Speaker 1: this place because I don't want to support any company.
Speaker 1: And you can find it. It's pretty easy. Just look
Speaker 1: for companies that benefit from from, you know, free prison labor.
Speaker 1: The point that I'm making is that, um, I went
Speaker 1: into another store. Yeah, and this I'm behind these two
Speaker 1: three three ladies. It's two two young ladies and beautiful
Speaker 1: ladies and their mother who's also who who's also beautiful.
Speaker 1: If they happened to be listening and SO was in
Speaker 1: the store, every girl thinks it's about that right now.
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope SO and the two younger daughters.
Speaker 1: One of them turned to me and goes, you look
Speaker 1: really familiar, and I said, yeah, I was your professor
Speaker 1: at you know, and I said something and she just
Speaker 1: busted up, right, she just started cracking. And her mother
Speaker 1: and her sister turned around and looked at me, and
Speaker 1: I swear to you it was the most it was.
Speaker 1: It was like and they looked at me up and down,
Speaker 1: like you're not even qualified. Why you here? I didn't
Speaker 1: pay in any mind. And then she turned to me
Speaker 1: and was like, um, wait a minute, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I think I know what this is, you know, because
Speaker 1: she she recognized me, you know, because I'm from the TVs.
Speaker 1: Well I'm the first black man to escape on Cops.
Speaker 1: And so she saw that episode and she was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm joking, but still she recognized it from something. Maybe
Speaker 1: it was read something and she goes, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: And then she said that, and they basically looked at
Speaker 1: me and looked at her and they were like, enough
Speaker 1: of that. So the energy was so crazy. We were
Speaker 1: waiting in line to get sandwiches. I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna just go what does that? What
Speaker 1: does that mean? What is it? So? So it's and
Speaker 1: by the way, you know Cuban lady right, and you know, beautiful,
Speaker 1: beautiful family. So I was like, okay, whatever is going
Speaker 1: on here, I don't know if it's between them or me,
Speaker 1: but now I'm gonna just i'mna extract myself. And I
Speaker 1: didn't like the way that I felt, so I said,
Speaker 1: I'll come back. Everybody there. I know everybody at this store,
Speaker 1: so they everybody know what I want, so I can
Speaker 1: just come by and grab it later, no big deal.
Speaker 1: So I go over to the salad bar. You will
Speaker 1: not believe this, I would say. It could didn't take
Speaker 1: five minutes for her to come to the mother to
Speaker 1: come to me and go, good after noon. You know
Speaker 1: my you know, my daughters, who looked like they were
Speaker 1: about between the ages of about twenty three and twenty seven, said,
Speaker 1: my daughters recognized you from your movies and they wanted
Speaker 1: to know if they could take a picture with you.
Speaker 1: And I said to her, as you can tell, I
Speaker 1: said that that's it, that's that's flattering. I appreciate it. Um,
Speaker 1: my name is Rominy, by the way, and as you
Speaker 1: can tell, and what's your name? Booms? She told me
Speaker 1: her name. I said, as you can tell I know
Speaker 1: everybody here. I talked to everyone, but our non verbal
Speaker 1: exchange at the sandwich counter, it really hurt my feelings.
Speaker 1: And because of that, I have to decline. The minute
Speaker 1: I said hurt my feelings, she went and I could
Speaker 1: tell that she saw me as a human being in
Speaker 1: that moment. She saw me as a human being. And
Speaker 1: then she goes, she thought about it. Well, she was
Speaker 1: gonna say he forced her to do some critical thinking
Speaker 1: boom exactly. And she was like, I understand. She say,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but she's like, because didn't moment you're on
Speaker 1: the spot, it could have become very confrontational. And then
Speaker 1: she went back to her daughters, and you know, I
Speaker 1: really didn't pay them any mind. I just scooped my
Speaker 1: sandwich because my mom was waiting for her. You know,
Speaker 1: she's waiting for her split pie suit. But um, but
Speaker 1: but but but but the point of it is is
Speaker 1: that that's the issue right there to me, is that
Speaker 1: we don't have human exchanges, so we sometimes forget. And
Speaker 1: it works the other way around too, when people just
Speaker 1: come up and jam a camera in your face while
Speaker 1: you're eating or something. And so we're complain about politicians
Speaker 1: and we complained about the media dehumanizing us, but we're
Speaker 1: doing it to ourselves as well. Yeah, all day we
Speaker 1: talked about all this bitch I fucked that hole like this,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. We're doing this. We're doing the same show.
Speaker 1: And no one who says that, like if they take
Speaker 1: a step back and we're really forced to reflect on
Speaker 1: what the fund just came out of their mouths, especially
Speaker 1: if they had to look at the person that they
Speaker 1: were talking about and that person becomes humanized, all of
Speaker 1: that bullshit persona ego thing melts away. And it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, when we're in a car and it's so
Speaker 1: easy to get mad at the other are for you know,
Speaker 1: for cutting us off because we're looking at an actual car.
Speaker 1: It's like in real life now we're still looking at
Speaker 1: people's cars. Yes, we're not seeing them, and we're not
Speaker 1: there's still we're still in this fucking our own world
Speaker 1: with our head up our ass. Yeah, but we're very
Speaker 1: young civilization and no matter, let's just look. Look, I'm
Speaker 1: not look, I'm I don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: But yeah, from my observation, hearing beings are nowhere near
Speaker 1: as sophisticated species as we like to think we are
Speaker 1: right when it really boils down to we're very primal
Speaker 1: and quite often, you know, we we work against our
Speaker 1: better judgment. We have a very hard uh, we have
Speaker 1: a very hard time, you know, seeing ourselves as being connected,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And you know, I think
Speaker 1: part of it is for survival. Like we're very tribal,
Speaker 1: you know, But what's happened now is we begin to
Speaker 1: turn against our tribes, you know. So we're kind of
Speaker 1: like lost and out there floating around. Um, and we
Speaker 1: need a little music in our lives. Yeah, you know exactly.
Speaker 1: I think you know, I forgot what we were talking about.
Speaker 1: I always do that. That's what happened when you're tired.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about sex. Let's talk about sex. I love
Speaker 1: talking about sex. What's your favorite thing? You're talking like,
Speaker 1: what what's your favorite thing about sex? Well, like I said,
Speaker 1: I was a late bloomer, but my favorite thing it's
Speaker 1: it's Daniella. Can you leave the room? Be um? No,
Speaker 1: my favorite thing about sex? What is my favorite thing
Speaker 1: about sex? Um? I love. I'm into love and making
Speaker 1: like I really really am into making love. So it
Speaker 1: really is and I'm like, listen, there's there's no time frame,
Speaker 1: there's no specific position, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: it's like when it's rhythmic and it's flowing, that's so
Speaker 1: do It's so sex can be so much fun. And
Speaker 1: I feel like when you take that that that roots
Speaker 1: to sex, you're like, man, I'm really taking I'm making
Speaker 1: the best out of life. I feel the same way.
Speaker 1: And I have to say, like, I'm a guy who
Speaker 1: loves eating pussy and licking asshole. But yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: But let me clarify though I can't do it with
Speaker 1: this is the weird thing loves licking as And maybe
Speaker 1: because a lot of that stuff is new to me,
Speaker 1: I've only learned about that over the last like, you know,
Speaker 1: seven eight years. A I've been eating pussy all my life,
Speaker 1: but since I've only really learned about how to truthfully
Speaker 1: indulge in asshole. I didn't start learning that maybe like
Speaker 1: seven eight years. It's indulgent asshole exactly. And you know
Speaker 1: what that's by the way, that's the name of my band.
Speaker 1: If you guys want to talk indulgent asshole. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: I appreciate Do you like it in your ass eating? Um?
Speaker 1: You know, I have to be honest with you. I've
Speaker 1: had it done a few times, and there were instances
Speaker 1: where I actually thought it was cool, and there were
Speaker 1: instances where I was like, you're gonna have to stop
Speaker 1: that now. What was the difference between the two instant
Speaker 1: like the this is cool and stop that one felt
Speaker 1: one felt very authentic in the moment that and the
Speaker 1: times it's fault it felt like other times I just
Speaker 1: felt like, I guess I got as. I think it
Speaker 1: just it's guilty to make your agents do stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I think it's just yeah, yeah, because yeah, your asshole
Speaker 1: for it, you know, and so I know, um, just
Speaker 1: sometimes it's it's a performance. Like I remember I was
Speaker 1: dating this girl. She was gorgeous. In the first time
Speaker 1: she tried to give me head I was like, well, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: hold up, don't you want to know what I like?
Speaker 1: Because right now I feel like you're sucking your ex
Speaker 1: is dick. That's a truth bomb. I would I would
Speaker 1: like walk away from that truth. I like step back
Speaker 1: from that truth bomb. I was like, I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: check this out. Okay, this is the preenulum because he shit,
Speaker 1: while you're educating, you break out the dictionary or like
Speaker 1: my mom, I break it down sometimes people, you know,
Speaker 1: I find it something really really you know anyway, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but I get what you mean by saying that, Like
Speaker 1: sometimes a girl could suck your dick and they're not
Speaker 1: president and you know it, and it just feels wrong
Speaker 1: and feel sex when sex feels not genuine when in
Speaker 1: both up by both parties don't want to genuinely be
Speaker 1: doing it. It's like I don't want to do this,
Speaker 1: or just like I have it like all I'm checking
Speaker 1: in for another day of work, blowing out a day. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's the one thing I will say is like their
Speaker 1: moments when you end up a woman's on top of
Speaker 1: you and she's really getting off and you're trying to
Speaker 1: fucking choke her, and you don't realize that you've gotten
Speaker 1: to that fucking point, all right, you don't even know it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like you know, you got a hand on her throat
Speaker 1: and you have the hands on her ask on her thigh,
Speaker 1: and you don't even realize it because you've gotten to
Speaker 1: this place of like it's it's almost like a power struggle,
Speaker 1: right interesting. And so to me, the reason I bring
Speaker 1: that up is choked right, but you can't choreograph that ship.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you can. But what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is when you find yourself in the moment. But this
Speaker 1: is this is you carving out understanding who you're with.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and you will be surprised.
Speaker 1: So many strong with a strong, old independent fireballs that
Speaker 1: I've met that want to do nothing but submit during
Speaker 1: hell yeah, because they wanted to be the opposite of
Speaker 1: what they're fucking women walk around trying like sometimes I'll
Speaker 1: walk around with this like I'm aren't scared of ship,
Speaker 1: I'm fucking in charge of my career, my blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: and yes I am. But when I'm trying to admit
Speaker 1: that and I come home just sucking slap me, bend
Speaker 1: me over and me like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And you know what And that's the thing. It's like,
Speaker 1: there are times when you're walking through your day and
Speaker 1: you just need you just need to at least for me,
Speaker 1: I can't be like I swear to you, I'm not trying.
Speaker 1: This is not a brag thing. I'm just telling you,
Speaker 1: like I'm one of those guys the girls who say
Speaker 1: that they don't date guys I want to hook up
Speaker 1: with right, and so I get a lot of invitations
Speaker 1: to be involved with multiple women at a time and
Speaker 1: a lot of orgies three ways for ways, yes, and
Speaker 1: I swear to you you're gonna laugh. It's not my thing,
Speaker 1: It's okay. If it's not your thing, it's okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's it's not that it's overwhelming. It's like to me,
Speaker 1: I just enjoy sex and more when it's intimate. And
Speaker 1: also I think of sex as kind of grows, like
Speaker 1: I don't want everybody's bodily fluids in my mouth. It's
Speaker 1: also I like if I don't. I also, you know,
Speaker 1: now I'm the co host of the two Horse podcast
Speaker 1: or whatever and like two dumb holes, so everyone thinks that,
Speaker 1: like and everyone just like goes to like multiple partners.
Speaker 1: Is like, that's the only way you can be innovative
Speaker 1: with sex. But there's so many other things that you
Speaker 1: can do on a one on one level, very one,
Speaker 1: and even with my friends, like I like to hang
Speaker 1: out with like one friend at a time, be really intimate.
Speaker 1: You can engage with too many people. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't even I just sit in a corner by myself,
Speaker 1: but I can't handle it. And my friend says, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I know you don't want to be a bunch of crowds.
Speaker 1: And I'll go to crowd and then I find that
Speaker 1: cool person to me, and that person will chop it
Speaker 1: off all night and just be talking about TV shows
Speaker 1: fall I care, but rather that while we're on this topic,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna just flow right into something that I
Speaker 1: think is very important because there are a lot I've
Speaker 1: been with a lot of women who are you know,
Speaker 1: my age, are close to my age. I'm going to
Speaker 1: be forty eight November eighteen, very specific. Thank you, No,
Speaker 1: definitely happy. You look like I have a great makeup artist.
Speaker 1: There's really good natural hair dyes with no ammonia out
Speaker 1: there that you can use. And um, you know, I
Speaker 1: have to say that living in the Caribbean helps, you know, Um,
Speaker 1: but thank you. And also having having you know, like
Speaker 1: my West Indian jeans. My mom still looks like I've
Speaker 1: had people assumed that me and my mom were a couple.
Speaker 1: We were making out. We were making out at this
Speaker 1: Italian restaurant and people like, wow, you knows right. I know, um,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to talk about this specifically, And it's
Speaker 1: not about being choreographed. I just wanted to you have
Speaker 1: a lot of male listeners to oh yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 1: I want guys to understand this because what happens is
Speaker 1: guys go down on girls, and I don't think that
Speaker 1: they quite understand this. And I learned how to how
Speaker 1: to go down to the woman from a woman, right,
Speaker 1: So they're just something that I want to explain about
Speaker 1: the G spot that I don't think a lot of
Speaker 1: people know. You go, you don't just go inside of
Speaker 1: a woman's vagina and find the G spot. The G
Speaker 1: spot actually reveals itself. So what ends up happening is
Speaker 1: when you stimulate the vagina. I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: noticed it, but inside the vagina it kind of like
Speaker 1: expands it like it starts going no the vagina. So
Speaker 1: so for instance, um, you put yourself your hand inside
Speaker 1: of you, know, you slide a finger inside of you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got his finger. And the reason I'd like to
Speaker 1: do this angle is because when the juice is they'll
Speaker 1: run down your elbow. So you have to be at
Speaker 1: the level angle so that the juice just sits in
Speaker 1: your exactly catching it. But when you go inside with
Speaker 1: a woman's vagina, you notice that it's a certain texture.
Speaker 1: As the woman becomes more stimulated, it tends to expand.
Speaker 1: Everything changes. So now there's so it creates this. So
Speaker 1: as that expands and you slide your finger along, you
Speaker 1: feel the texture of that woman's skin. It's some where
Speaker 1: along there you'll feel a change in texture and it
Speaker 1: will just happen for a blip. And usually that little
Speaker 1: change in texture is where that beautiful little spot is hidden. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's when I can be I definitely feel like every
Speaker 1: time that I ever really well every time, Well that's
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say, I do with women that
Speaker 1: they didn't know where the spar I know where it is,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know the whole that the texture actually
Speaker 1: changes that when the woman gets aroused. Well, it's not
Speaker 1: that to change. So think of it like this. Just
Speaker 1: think of like a deflated balloon. Yeah right, okay, and
Speaker 1: then and then the balloon expands, and now that the
Speaker 1: balloon has become somewhat taught, it's easier for you to
Speaker 1: find like, oh, a variation in texture. Yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, you're absolutely saying. And so inside of a woman,
Speaker 1: you will feel like there's just natural texture, and then
Speaker 1: you come across something that might feel like you just
Speaker 1: ran your finger over a raisin, just ran your finger
Speaker 1: over something that's a little more always there. You just
Speaker 1: can't feel it when someone's not exactly about being aroused.
Speaker 1: And so I'm sorry, I'm not well. Go ahead, go ahead,
Speaker 1: continue that. Continue And so what I was gonna say
Speaker 1: is is that so it's not about going in and
Speaker 1: finding it it actually is. It's inspiring it to reveal itself. Oh,
Speaker 1: a very poetic. You should have a car of greeting
Speaker 1: cards series. I like. I like that. That was like
Speaker 1: you had to get that in before we stopped recording,
Speaker 1: Like this is this is a p s A. No,
Speaker 1: do you say that on it? Like did at the
Speaker 1: end of Doctor Oz. Did you also tell him that
Speaker 1: I say, no, please say this is the guys exclusive
Speaker 1: probably said two words on the true I said two
Speaker 1: words on Doctor what happens that I'm saving it all
Speaker 1: for more guys. Yes, that's what I said. Um. There
Speaker 1: was a woman who emailed us that said that her
Speaker 1: and she a guy pointed this out to her and
Speaker 1: then she started putting her fingers up her vagina when
Speaker 1: she was coming glatorally because it would actually like grab
Speaker 1: the fingers. Yes, it tightens up that she didn't know this,
Speaker 1: and she's like, fucking put your vaginas and your put
Speaker 1: your fingers in your vagina next time you come. And
Speaker 1: some of them sometimes you'll feel like it grab. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that is crazy. It's my favorite things. Like I am listen,
Speaker 1: nothing feels better than the vagina tracting as the woman's
Speaker 1: having an orgasm. This is what I was saying, like
Speaker 1: I really like that fucking feeling. And this is and
Speaker 1: what's really great is especially squirks, they'll squeeze you out,
Speaker 1: so you kind of you know, with the movement and
Speaker 1: you got and you stay there. You kind of help
Speaker 1: answer situation a little bit. I love that better than
Speaker 1: a woman that's coming on your big and your balls
Speaker 1: are all wet shit and making out and you've got
Speaker 1: another finger and an asshole and yes, and you can
Speaker 1: feel a little. You're a great lover for goose bumps
Speaker 1: just everywhere. Like that makes me feel like fucking gonan
Speaker 1: whatever cold, what a great ending. That's end. I'll not
Speaker 1: know what what do you want to promote? Because every
Speaker 1: one's ears and you will watch whatever you're doing just
Speaker 1: what your phone number, email, and your address. Oh man,
Speaker 1: oh man. I want to say one to both of you,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me on. You are what I
Speaker 1: consider like quintessential comedy in the sense that it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like you're searching for a joke, you're searching for
Speaker 1: the truth, and it's it's funny. It's funny. You're very welcome.
Speaker 1: I'm going to post and I gotta be annoys me
Speaker 1: when I see people that are constantly, constantly trying to
Speaker 1: find the jokes funny, it's not. That's our motto, guys,
Speaker 1: no jokes. I like that. Jeff truths, I like that. No,
Speaker 1: no jokes, just chokes. I don't know anyway. So with
Speaker 1: that said, um um one, I really am excited and
Speaker 1: honored to be here with you two ladies. It feels
Speaker 1: really really to me. Yeah, I saved it all. What
Speaker 1: did I say? I was? I could Daniel can confirm it,
Speaker 1: and so, UM, long and short of it is is
Speaker 1: that I am involved in the project that's very passionate. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm very passionate about, which is called um Prison Logic,
Speaker 1: and it's about a character that I created in two
Speaker 1: thousand and I've been doing online for almost ten years.
Speaker 1: He's an ex convict turn motivational speaker, and a lot
Speaker 1: of what we've discussed about the importance of processing your pain,
Speaker 1: knowing how to process your pain, knowing how to forgive,
Speaker 1: how to find resolution, how to accept people as they
Speaker 1: are and find a way of being free, and finding
Speaker 1: way of living a life of purpose and redefining success
Speaker 1: and all these things this life coach teaches. But he's
Speaker 1: he's a guy who spent most of his life in jail,
Speaker 1: so he's coming from a very institutionalist perspective. So his
Speaker 1: ship is fucking wrong. But it's the people I grew
Speaker 1: up with. I grew up with people who had the
Speaker 1: best of intentions. They were just skewed as funk. Like
Speaker 1: my dad told me, I'm gonna tell you now, if
Speaker 1: you really think about getting married, cheat first, because they're
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I'm so your dad didn't write a
Speaker 1: book before, some kind of like a table table advice.
Speaker 1: This guy is that version of that, of course, with
Speaker 1: a much more resolved perspective on things, and his quotes
Speaker 1: are really open ended in kind of funny. Sometimes, where
Speaker 1: can we get this? Where can we watch go to prison?
Speaker 1: Logic dot com gecom. Yeah, and and like it's a
Speaker 1: crowdfunding campaign. That was the first round of funding was
Speaker 1: so successful that we were like, Okay, let's continue this
Speaker 1: and let's make a bigger movie. I've had so many
Speaker 1: celebrities say yo, I'm interested in being involved. I want
Speaker 1: to get them, you know. So I'm like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: you know, you have sagmentimum, you have to pay them
Speaker 1: a certain and so we want to raise that money.
Speaker 1: And so like here we are. I think we're like
Speaker 1: at a hundred and eighties something thousand. We're going for
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty thousand at this point. And you know,
Speaker 1: go to prison logic dot com. Is that where we
Speaker 1: find where don't yes, go to prison logics dot com.
Speaker 1: You can make a contribution there. And also I've been
Speaker 1: uploading his videos there because they are funny and they
Speaker 1: are insightful. That's talking about like he had this one
Speaker 1: about why poor people shops so much, and he's explaining
Speaker 1: how it's a byproduct of of of a damn it
Speaker 1: self esteem. And you know that we haven't resolved, and
Speaker 1: we should spend more money resolved. We're work getting therapy
Speaker 1: and working on that exact. We explains like fifty percent
Speaker 1: of the more than of the nore of plastic surgery
Speaker 1: recipient recipients earned less than fifty dollars a year more
Speaker 1: than percent even I don't know, but anyway, so I
Speaker 1: have to get to do all this research to do
Speaker 1: these things, and I know we got to wrap this up.
Speaker 1: But anyway, That's all I wanted to say is that
Speaker 1: Prison Logic is my passion project, and I'm excited that
Speaker 1: people have been so supportive. And thank you for giving
Speaker 1: me the opportunity to plug it. Thank you, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for being here. We like that. Guys, the
Speaker 1: anti sarching me in podcast, We'll talk to you next Friday.
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