Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into another episode the Fantasy Pros Dynasty
Speaker 1: Football Podcast. I'm Ryan Warmley, joined today as always by
Speaker 1: Scott Bogman and Pat Fitz.
Speaker 2: Morris.
Speaker 1: Fitz will notice I'm wearing my Maryland hoodie because in
Speaker 1: the middle of recording today's show, Wisconsin and Maryland are
Speaker 1: going to tip off in the Big Ten Tournament, two
Speaker 1: teams we are both very optimistic about, he said, sarcastically.
Speaker 1: I would not recommend anybody watch that game. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a sight, you know, just really really ugly, right fits.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, worm.
Speaker 4: I don't know if anyone will be able to take
Speaker 4: advantage of betting against Maryland and either well in the NIT,
Speaker 4: if they're able to make that, I don't know if
Speaker 4: they're a positioned for that, but I would recommend betting
Speaker 4: against Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: In the first round of the NCAA Tournament.
Speaker 1: The word is that Maryland would actually decline an NIT
Speaker 1: invite because all of their good seniors are just done
Speaker 1: with the season. The vibes are bad, they're out, like,
Speaker 1: wouldn't even participate, so they couldn't field a team. It's
Speaker 1: been that kind of a year in College Park for
Speaker 1: hoops that of course, is not what everybody is listening for,
Speaker 1: so we will jump into the actual show, which is
Speaker 1: as always a loaded one. We are reacting to free
Speaker 1: agency from a Dynasty perspective. I just want to let
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Speaker 1: staff Dynasty rankings on the site. I want to also
Speaker 1: let everybody know that tomorrow and we're recording this Thursday,
Speaker 1: So Friday March fifteenth, this week, there's going to be
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Speaker 1: one more thing to note Tomorrow I'll be taping a
Speaker 1: free agency winners and losers from a redraftive with Debro
Speaker 1: and Ericson. So if you're looking for the non dynasty
Speaker 1: just kind of general winners and losers of this early
Speaker 1: time in the offseason as well, you can find that too.
Speaker 1: We've got tons of free agency content coming your way.
Speaker 1: To be sure to stick with us for all of that, guys,
Speaker 1: let's drive right in. I mean, it's you know, free
Speaker 1: agency impact in Dynasty. The the you know, scope of
Speaker 1: the of the episode is pretty clear. I want to
Speaker 1: start with the running backs. Usually we start with quarterback
Speaker 1: just because it's such an important position, but those first
Speaker 1: two days, especially of the legal tampering period, it was
Speaker 1: really like the running back show. We talked a bit
Speaker 1: going into free agency about how because the rookie class
Speaker 1: isn't so good, maybe there might be more interest in
Speaker 1: these veteran guys. That was clearly how it played out. So, Bobman,
Speaker 1: before we get into anybody specific, what was your takeaway
Speaker 1: just from all the running back shuffling around in those
Speaker 1: first couple of days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit of it was surprising, but a
Speaker 2: lot of it was, you know, very need based. So
Speaker 2: we talked about this with Ericson on the flagship, right,
Speaker 2: and Ericson and I got Austin Ekler right. I don't
Speaker 2: know if we got anybody else right, he might have
Speaker 2: got I think he might have had pollared to Tennessee.
Speaker 2: I wanted him going back to Dallas. But yeah, a
Speaker 2: lot of big moves here, a lot of fun moves,
Speaker 2: exciting ones, and I'm happy to see the first guy
Speaker 2: here move on to a better situation first, so Fitz
Speaker 2: can quit hating on him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, jump right in. I think this is actually
Speaker 1: when Ericson called as well, and it's Saquon to the Eagles. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Saquon comes with a ton of pedigree. He's such an
Speaker 1: exciting player, was not in the best situation in New York.
Speaker 1: Fitz Bogwin just kind of sets you up here. Are
Speaker 1: you going to hate Saquon less now that he's in Philly?
Speaker 4: I will probably hate him less. And yes, Like one
Speaker 4: of my big hang ups with Saquon is that he
Speaker 4: has not been all that dynamic in the passing game
Speaker 4: since about twenty nineteen, which is a long time ago.
Speaker 4: And I don't know that this is going to be
Speaker 4: that much better for him as a pass catcher. The
Speaker 4: Eagles had the twelfth fewest running back targets last year,
Speaker 4: just ninety three. And you know, you have to be
Speaker 4: a little bit concerned about Saquon potentially used losing short
Speaker 4: yardage touchdowns with the tush push, but much healthier ecosystem,
Speaker 4: and I think you have to be pleased with that
Speaker 4: if you're a Saquon stakeholder. It goes from maybe one
Speaker 4: of well not even maybe one of the worst offensive
Speaker 4: lines in the league too, won that. Yes, the Eagles
Speaker 4: just lost Jason Kelsey to retirement, but they still have
Speaker 4: Jordan Mylotta Lane, Johnson, Landon Dickerson.
Speaker 2: This is by guard in the league now, Landon Dickerson.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: So this is a really good offensive line and I
Speaker 4: think it can only help Saquon.
Speaker 3: So I'm excited. I moved him up in my Dynasty rankings.
Speaker 4: I've got him RB ten now, even though he's aged
Speaker 4: twenty seven and you know, might not have that long
Speaker 4: to go before he hits the age.
Speaker 1: Cliff Bob, mean, do you think that the overall touchdown
Speaker 1: opportunity is going up or down? Because obviously everybody's talked
Speaker 1: about the fact that because of the tush push, it
Speaker 1: you know, kind of Robs, these Philly running backs, of
Speaker 1: those short goal line opportunities. But there's just more touchdowns
Speaker 1: to be scored in general and Philly than there were
Speaker 1: in New York City. You think overall, in the aggregate,
Speaker 1: this is better specifically for his touchdowns or worse.
Speaker 2: There's a possibility toush Push has done. Guys. I mean,
Speaker 2: Kelsey was the main of that piece, so maybe that
Speaker 2: is done. Plus you're gonna have to pay. Uh, You're
Speaker 2: gonna have to pay Hurts a lot of money. Do
Speaker 2: you want your quarterback putting himself in those piles for
Speaker 2: the majority of his career? It was fine for two years.
Speaker 2: Do we want to keep doing it? Like I know,
Speaker 2: I know Hurts is never gonna back off. He's he's
Speaker 2: gonna want to do it. But you just paid Saquon.
Speaker 2: Let him take the brunt of that at the end.
Speaker 2: He's way bigger. So you know, Hurts had the finger
Speaker 2: injury in one of the piles last year too, So uh,
Speaker 2: let's let's give that ball to our big boy in
Speaker 2: the backfield. Let's give it to Saquon and let him
Speaker 2: score all those touchdowns. So I'm I'm excited about it. I
Speaker 2: think there's gonna be way more opportunity even if the
Speaker 2: tush push is still round, because the Eagles have a
Speaker 2: competent offense and the Giants have not had a competent
Speaker 2: offense for a long time.
Speaker 1: Would you have he's ECR in Dynasty, he's nine fits
Speaker 1: dismentioned he has him ten? Where do you have him?
Speaker 2: I have him a nine. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: can move him up because I have guys that are
Speaker 2: way younger than him, and Walker and Kyrone right above him.
Speaker 2: But he's definitely not moving down anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think overall, definitely. You know, I'm with you, guys.
Speaker 1: An exciting move, for sure, A surprising move on day one,
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs to the Packers fits. As the Packers fan,
Speaker 1: I'm curious what you think, just you know, from being
Speaker 1: a Green Bay fan, but also of course from the
Speaker 1: Dynasty perspective. This was a move that I don't think
Speaker 1: many people saw coming.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I didn't see it coming either. Were to be totally
Speaker 4: honest with you, I thought maybe they were going to
Speaker 4: retain Aaron Jones and just draft another back, and that
Speaker 4: wasn't the case. We know that maybe they wanted to
Speaker 4: get a little younger at the position. It's interesting because
Speaker 4: Jacob's numbers last season were the worst of his career,
Speaker 4: not only the surface stats like yards per carry, where
Speaker 4: he averaged three point five, but also things like yards
Speaker 4: per contact per carry not good and PFF and some
Speaker 4: of the other sites that are looking to quantify offensive
Speaker 4: line performance would tell you that the Raiders and the
Speaker 4: Packers weren't that far apart in terms of their offensive
Speaker 4: line play last year. I mean, I think the Packers
Speaker 4: line is better, but I don't know. Just watching Josh
Speaker 4: Jacobs last year, there was really nothing with the eye
Speaker 4: test that made me think he had tumbled over the
Speaker 4: cliff or you know, had gotten demonstrably worse. I don't
Speaker 4: know how you guys feel about that, So I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm optimistic, like I've always thought that Jacobs is one
Speaker 4: of the toughest, hardest nose runners in football, and he
Speaker 4: can catch passes. So I think he's gonna fit what
Speaker 4: the Packers want to do.
Speaker 1: Feels like a good opportunity also, right, I mean, just
Speaker 1: that this is a young, ascending offense. I know Jordan
Speaker 1: Love threw a lot in the red zone last year,
Speaker 1: which is part of how he had a lot of
Speaker 1: fantasy value. But if you have a guy like Jacobs
Speaker 1: who's done it before, you would think that he would
Speaker 1: be considered a pretty strong option down there as well. Bogman, again,
Speaker 1: you know this is you know ECR thirteen, just outside
Speaker 1: RB one territory in Dynasty. Where do you think you
Speaker 1: have him?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I have him at excuse me, I have him
Speaker 2: at twelve. I could move him up a couple of
Speaker 2: spots here as well, maybe two ten, like right underneath Barkley.
Speaker 2: And I think the thing that you saw that was
Speaker 2: different in Vegas last year for Josh Jacobs was just
Speaker 2: terrible quarterback play, right. I mean, there is Derek Carr.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say is great, but he is serviceable, and
Speaker 2: we did not have a serviceable quarterback in Vegas last
Speaker 2: year between Aid and O'Connell and Jimmy g So I
Speaker 2: think knowing that, knowing they had stack boxes, I think
Speaker 2: that hurt Josh Shakos. Plus he was coming off, you know,
Speaker 2: a season where he led the league in touches in
Speaker 2: the yard. So I think that I think this is
Speaker 2: a much better situation for him and he becomes the
Speaker 2: wildly vet of this team at twenty six years old,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because they're so young and
Speaker 2: we know they can pass. And I think Josh Jacobs
Speaker 2: is the best part of Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon
Speaker 2: put in a one guy. So I think he's going
Speaker 2: to be a monster. I think he's going to be
Speaker 2: a lead back. I think this year in particular is
Speaker 2: gonna be huge for him, and moving forward, I think
Speaker 2: he's gonna be pretty solid there as well. They still
Speaker 2: need depth, but Jacobs is going to be the main cog.
Speaker 1: So given this landing spot, is see somebody you're looking
Speaker 1: to maybe buy low on coming off of last year?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, if you can buy low on Josh Jacobs,
Speaker 2: I absolutely would.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the guy that he's replacing in Green Bay,
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones moving within the division to the Vikings coming
Speaker 1: off of, you know, his worst season for fantasy since
Speaker 1: his rookie year. Obviously getting older can still do some
Speaker 1: things and help the team, but you know, clearly isn't
Speaker 1: the same guy he was when he was, you know,
Speaker 1: an elite fantasy asset. So fits, I'll start with you
Speaker 1: again for the dynasty perspective, Aging running back changing teams
Speaker 1: usually not a great formula.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, really good player. But Aaron Jones is
Speaker 4: twenty nine and he's going to a team that there
Speaker 4: has to be some question about the potency of the
Speaker 4: offense with the quarterback situation. And this is coming from
Speaker 4: someone who still is holding out a little bit of
Speaker 4: hope for Sam Darnold, like proving himself starting caliber once again.
Speaker 2: The fifth I mean, everybody likes every team is gonna
Speaker 2: give him a shot.
Speaker 4: But so Aaron Jones did close the regular season with
Speaker 4: three consecutive one hundred yard rushing days, then tacked on
Speaker 4: two more in the playoffs, including that three touchdown performance
Speaker 4: against Dallas. Good player, really good player, But age is
Speaker 4: a concern. The supporting cast and the change of scenery
Speaker 4: might not be an upgrade, and you'd be hard pressed
Speaker 4: to call it an upgrade for sure. So I've got
Speaker 4: him RB thirty two in Dynasty. I don't know if
Speaker 4: that jives with U Bogs and ECR.
Speaker 2: I got him at thirty one.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's up at twenty six in ECR for
Speaker 1: the record a little bit.
Speaker 2: Higher there, you know, Fitz and I I've added the
Speaker 2: rookies so that that is where he is with rookies
Speaker 2: before the draft. You know, obviously that's kind of a crapshoot,
Speaker 2: but look, Aaron Jones proved that at the end of
Speaker 2: last season. They're still juice in there, probably just not
Speaker 2: as much as there has been. And this is a
Speaker 2: team in the Vikings that when you lose a guy
Speaker 2: like her Cousins and you go to Sam Donald or
Speaker 2: you know, even if they draft what our boy Thor
Speaker 2: wants and JJ McCarthy, they are going to run the
Speaker 2: football more. They have to write. So I know O'Connell
Speaker 2: is a pass heavy guy, but Aaron Jones is gonna
Speaker 2: get the football. I mean, I really this really hurts
Speaker 2: my feelings for my guy, ty Chandler. I thought, you know,
Speaker 2: they're so quick to abandon the run in Minnesota, at
Speaker 2: least they were last season. We'll see what they do
Speaker 2: this year with Donald or whoever. But I do think
Speaker 2: they are going to have to run the ball way
Speaker 2: more this year. And that's good for Aaron Jones and
Speaker 2: maybe good for Ty Chandler as a change of pace
Speaker 2: guy too.
Speaker 1: Worth noting on Jones too, and this might be a
Speaker 1: knock against him given the age, but he was dealing
Speaker 1: with injuries last year. Was his first time since twenty
Speaker 1: eighteen that he played under fourteen games in a season.
Speaker 1: He played eleven last year, so that obviously led into
Speaker 1: the overall ranking being lower. And to your guys' point,
Speaker 1: he certainly finished really strong from a yardage standpoint, even
Speaker 1: if he wasn't getting the end zone at the end
Speaker 1: of the regular season. One person who I expect to
Speaker 1: get in the end zone quite a bit next year
Speaker 1: is the next guy. That's Derrick Henry in Baltimore. It
Speaker 1: was the match made in heaven. Literally everybody going into
Speaker 1: this free agency period said, you know what I'd really
Speaker 1: like to see is Derrick Henry lining up in the
Speaker 1: backfield with Lamar Jackson. I shouldn't say everybody, everybody except
Speaker 1: for fans of AFC North teams, including Scott Bogman. But
Speaker 1: this was just like the fun obvious pairing. I'm really
Speaker 1: glad it happened. From a Ravens fan perspective, I'm glad
Speaker 1: that they didn't have to go, you know, as deeply
Speaker 1: invested financially as some of the other running backs went.
Speaker 1: You know, Saquon and Jacobs got really pretty reasonable deals,
Speaker 1: especially considering with the state of the position has been
Speaker 1: in free agency in recent years, Derrick Henry two years,
Speaker 1: sixteen million. It's like a one year, nine million guaranteed
Speaker 1: and then hopefully he's good enough that you get another year.
Speaker 1: What a fit though, I mean, I know he's thirty.
Speaker 1: This is a Dynasty show, so you can't get two
Speaker 1: over your skis with a running back that age. I
Speaker 1: just pointed out how a running back changing teams who's
Speaker 1: aging is not a good formula. But boy, is it
Speaker 1: just exciting to think about Lamar Henry when Keaton Mitchell
Speaker 1: is back. Those three in the backfield together is going
Speaker 1: to be a sight to be hold, bagman. I'll start
Speaker 1: with you as a Steeler, Sam, but also more importantly
Speaker 1: as a Dynasty manager. What did you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I have him at nineteen so,
Speaker 2: and I had that before he was in Baltimore. And
Speaker 2: there's a couple guys I might move him ahead of.
Speaker 2: Really I don't want to because of the years. You know,
Speaker 2: he's six years older than Javonte, He's six years or
Speaker 2: four years older than Naji and three years older than
Speaker 2: Tony Pollind, So it's hard to put him ahead of
Speaker 2: those guys who probably still have maybe a little more
Speaker 2: gas left in the tank. But we've talked about Derek before.
Speaker 2: He is a freak of nature. This Derreck Henry is
Speaker 2: still one of the best backs. As he's slowing down.
Speaker 2: He was the best back by so much that it's
Speaker 2: just hard to It's hard to slow this guy down.
Speaker 2: And it's a perfect fit in Baltimore. We know he's
Speaker 2: going to be getting a lot of carriers from Lamar.
Speaker 2: It makes Lamar more dangerous because everybody's going to be
Speaker 2: keying in on Derreck Henry too. So it just helps
Speaker 2: this offense a lot. And I'm really glad they spent
Speaker 2: the money on him so the Steelers can snap up
Speaker 2: Patrick Queen. So you know, I think it worked out
Speaker 2: for everybody. Worm Let's say that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was not I expected to lose Queen. I
Speaker 1: was not expecting to lose into Pittsburgh's That was an
Speaker 1: unfortunate downter. But I mean, Derek Henry was RB eight
Speaker 1: and half PPR last year, even with his like taking
Speaker 1: a big step back clearly from what he had been.
Speaker 1: To your point, that's how good he was prior to
Speaker 1: last season. He scored fourteen touchdowns last year. Are you
Speaker 1: telling me he can't take all of Gus Edward's touchdowns
Speaker 1: and more next year. I mean, this is a rushing attack.
Speaker 2: That Will Levis next to him for most of the season,
Speaker 2: and now it's got the MVP next Toime.
Speaker 1: Now he's at the MVP and a team that wants
Speaker 1: to run in near the goal line and doesn't want
Speaker 1: to run with Lamar near the goal one. They prefer
Speaker 1: to just smash it back into the line and let
Speaker 1: him fall into the end zone. And that's what they
Speaker 1: have in Dereck Henry. I mean fits again, it's he
Speaker 1: is thirty. So it's fun to get hyped because of
Speaker 1: the name and because of the excitement of seeing what
Speaker 1: this backfeel is going to look like next year. But
Speaker 1: there is reason to throw some cold water on this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And as the Dynasty agist on this show, I'm
Speaker 4: happy to be the guy getting out the pail of
Speaker 4: cold water. So I've got Henry RB thirty one in Dynasty.
Speaker 4: But I will say that, look, even though I'm not
Speaker 4: going to be taking him in any Dynasty startup drafts
Speaker 4: because of the way I like to build if you
Speaker 4: are in win now mode and Dereck Henry is on
Speaker 4: the roster of a team that's really not in win
Speaker 4: now mode, you should be kicking the tires on him
Speaker 4: and maybe throwing out some offers. And if you have
Speaker 4: Derek Henry on your roster and you're not in win
Speaker 4: now mode, you should definitely be looking to dal him
Speaker 4: because I mean this, I think this is going to
Speaker 4: perk up enthusiasm for Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: I do think, like, I know this is a Dynasty show,
Speaker 1: but in redraft, I think I'm going to be really
Speaker 1: aggressive about getting him next year because I just don't
Speaker 1: see any way, given the way this offense operates and
Speaker 1: how good we expect it to be assuming health, I
Speaker 1: don't see any way he scores less than like like
Speaker 1: absolute floor is like twelve touchdowns and I think very
Speaker 1: likely more like fifteen. Again in this offense, the way
Speaker 1: they want to run it. What we just saw from
Speaker 1: gust last year, who I love, but is not Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: Like the rush in the touchdown equity alone, I think
Speaker 1: is going to make him and RB one next year.
Speaker 1: And I don't think he's going to be drafted that
Speaker 1: highly just because I think people will be afraid of
Speaker 1: the age. I mean, do you again, I know this
Speaker 1: a Dynasty show, but in redraft Bogman. Do you think
Speaker 1: that's crazy?
Speaker 2: I know, not at all. I mean, I'm gonna have him.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have him absurdainly high in redraft. And you know,
Speaker 2: I don't want to take him because I don't want
Speaker 2: to have to root for your rappers all year. But
Speaker 2: I'm probably going to be high on him, and he's
Speaker 2: probably gonna be a guy that I get a lot,
Speaker 2: So I will probably be rooting for Derrick Henry right
Speaker 2: along with you this year, a lot worm, so we
Speaker 2: can I cannot wait.
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to message you about him every time
Speaker 1: he scores a touchdown, especially against the Steelers. I want
Speaker 1: to bring up the guy who's replacing him, who's atually
Speaker 1: ranked much higher in Dynasty that at least Henry is
Speaker 1: RB twenty five in Dynasty and consensus Tony Pollard is
Speaker 1: RB eighteen. A bit of a surprise here. I did
Speaker 1: not expect to see him in Tennessee. Certainly, I thought
Speaker 1: there were a few other options that made more sense
Speaker 1: for Pollard. But you know, coming off, you know, relative
Speaker 1: to expectations, certainly a disappointing season, but one where he
Speaker 1: seemed to get healthier as it went on. The Titans
Speaker 1: we've seen under previous regimes are certainly willing to give
Speaker 1: a ton of work to their running backs. It's now
Speaker 1: a different coaching staff, so we'll see how that plays
Speaker 1: out here. But Fitz will start with you, Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: to the Titans. What was your reaction to that? And
Speaker 1: do you think think RB eighteen is too high? Too low?
Speaker 2: Just right?
Speaker 1: In dynasty?
Speaker 4: I think everyone was expecting the Titans to bring in
Speaker 4: someone to pair with Taija Spears and not count on
Speaker 4: Taija Spears to be like a workhorse back, especially since
Speaker 4: taij Spears has no ACL in one of his knees
Speaker 4: and we don't know what the durability is going to
Speaker 4: be for him. But I didn't realize they were going
Speaker 4: to make this sort of an investment. They did have
Speaker 4: money to throw around, they were in really good salary
Speaker 4: cap shape, so I don't know. I think Pollard goes
Speaker 4: back to being the sort of timeshare back he was
Speaker 4: earlier in his Dallas career, and maybe that's a good
Speaker 4: thing because the efficiency didn't really travel into a beefier
Speaker 4: role for him last year.
Speaker 3: So hopefully he owns the passing downs again. Although TAIJ.
Speaker 4: Spears was actually pretty good on passing down so I
Speaker 4: don't know quite what that's going to look like for
Speaker 4: the Titans this year.
Speaker 3: And the other thing is.
Speaker 4: Health, like, hopefully we get improved health because Pollard said
Speaker 4: he wasn't fully healthy last year until the Dallas Carolina game,
Speaker 4: which I believe week eleven, So you know, he had
Speaker 4: that injury at the end of the twenty twenty two season.
Speaker 4: I think it was against the forty nine ers in
Speaker 4: the playoffs. A hip drop tackle, bad high ankle spray
Speaker 4: and fractured lower leg. Had to have tight rope surgery,
Speaker 4: which is kind of a big deal.
Speaker 3: I'm optimistic. I've got him RB twenty two.
Speaker 4: I know that's below his ECR, but you know that
Speaker 4: includes rookies, and.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I suspect some rankers are going to downgrade him slightly
Speaker 4: because of the landing spots. So all in all, like
Speaker 4: not horrified by where he's going, even though their offensive
Speaker 4: line was bad.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It could be an offense on the rise. There's a
Speaker 4: lot riding on Will Levis's shoulders this year though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely bog mean, what do you make of Pollard
Speaker 2: in Tennessee. You know, I look at the new coaching
Speaker 2: staff here, Callahan, and I think of what Joe Mixon
Speaker 2: was to Cincinnati for a little bit. I think Pollard
Speaker 2: has that type of a ceiling right of one of
Speaker 2: the better backs in the NFL if they give him
Speaker 2: that workload. There's so many ifs here in this situation,
Speaker 2: right if will Levis works out, if the offensive lineman
Speaker 2: can be an improved group this year, because they were
Speaker 2: awful last year, and Derreck Henry was good behind a
Speaker 2: bad line last year too, which is kind of crazy
Speaker 2: to think of. But they you know, they brought in
Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley, they still have DeAndre Hopkins, and with the
Speaker 2: new staff hopefully upgrading this offensive line too. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm positive on him, and I just I haven't
Speaker 2: moved Tony Pollard at all. I have him in this
Speaker 2: kind of tier with you know, Pacheco, Naji, Stevenson, Javante.
Speaker 2: So you know, wherever you want to put him in
Speaker 2: that group, in my opinion, is fine, but I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna bury him like her guy fits over there.
Speaker 2: I'n kerry Tony Pollard quite yet. So not done, not
Speaker 2: done with Tony Pollard quite yet the landing spot of
Speaker 2: Luke Warmond, but I'm not really moving him.
Speaker 4: How are you guys, How are you guys feeling about
Speaker 4: Taije for dynasty?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: That hurts? I mean for me, I think I think
Speaker 2: it just really hurts because you know, Tony Pollard is
Speaker 2: a main back and you paid him. You know, when
Speaker 2: you pay a running back, you're usually gonna use them
Speaker 2: pretty heavily. So I think for the first year or
Speaker 2: two here, it's gonna be heavy Pollard tyj will be
Speaker 2: the be back, the change of pace or whatever. In
Speaker 2: my opinion, I don't think he's gonna even be like
Speaker 2: a third down back. I think he's just gonna be
Speaker 2: a change of pace guy, which sucks. And you know
Speaker 2: obviously he has, like you said, fits the knee injury,
Speaker 2: already missing the ACL So I really don't like it
Speaker 2: for Tysha, don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's tilted more than like sixty forty though,
Speaker 4: toward Pollard, and even that I would be maybe even
Speaker 4: surprised if Pollard got as many as But he's gonna
Speaker 4: just six the.
Speaker 2: Goal line stuff, I think.
Speaker 1: But he just struggled so much with that last year
Speaker 1: that I'm really curious. I don't feel like I have
Speaker 1: a good sense of what this backfield will look like
Speaker 1: because to Boggs's point, they just spent a lot of
Speaker 1: money on Pollard. You don't do that unless he's planned
Speaker 1: to use him. But to Fit's point, like again, we
Speaker 1: saw last year that he was worse without a Zeke
Speaker 1: Elliott to share the backfield with. So I mean he
Speaker 1: will get the favorable end of the committee, I would assume,
Speaker 1: given you know, the money and investment and everything. But
Speaker 1: I think he's selling more of a committee.
Speaker 2: That's that's my thing is they're very similar, right, So
Speaker 2: I think if you are super confident, tij, you wouldn't
Speaker 2: bring a guy that is, you know, that is very
Speaker 2: similar to him, but maybe just a better version. So
Speaker 2: that that's my concern about time.
Speaker 1: I think that's a good point. Where do you guys
Speaker 1: have spears In your dynasty rankings? He's up at RB
Speaker 1: twenty one in ECR. I think that probably just hasn't
Speaker 1: been fully updated yet to reflect you know, the Pollard edition,
Speaker 1: but right now he's pretty highly ranked.
Speaker 2: I got him at thirty three.
Speaker 3: I think I'm thirty one.
Speaker 1: Okay, one other player who I think is also aging,
Speaker 1: but that also might be a part time player. Is
Speaker 1: Austin Eckler to the Commanders, a guy who in the
Speaker 1: past has specifically asked his coaching staff for fewer carries,
Speaker 1: but obviously has been you know, historically efficient, very good
Speaker 1: in the passing game, you know, going to the Commanders,
Speaker 1: this was another match that I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people saw coming given the Anthony Lynn connection. Now Bogman
Speaker 1: will start with you here. Austin Eckley, He's RB twenty
Speaker 1: nine in ECR. Is that too high to lower?
Speaker 3: Just right?
Speaker 2: I think it's probably a little too high. I think,
Speaker 2: like you said, this is a guy moving more in
Speaker 2: the direction of becoming a different type of player. Right,
Speaker 2: So if Brian Robinson I still think is a better
Speaker 2: back than him, maybe not. Maybe Brian Robinson isn't. Maybe
Speaker 2: they don't like Brian Robinson. I'm not sure. Obviously his
Speaker 2: new coaching staff, it's Cliff Kingsbury. You worry about carries,
Speaker 2: but also I don't think you really need to worry
Speaker 2: about carries because two times the Cardinals with Cliff Kingsbury
Speaker 2: calling plays were below average. They were both nineteen that's
Speaker 2: the bottom twenty two and nineteen, but they were sick
Speaker 2: since seventh and carries per game, rush attempts per game,
Speaker 2: I should say in the Sandwich years there, and I
Speaker 2: think we forget how up tempo this offense is. There's
Speaker 2: going to be plays for Robinson and Austin Eckler, so
Speaker 2: very very up tempo offense. Pass heavy for sure, and
Speaker 2: Austin Eckler fits better there. But I still think Brian
Speaker 2: Robinson is a better back. He's younger as well, so
Speaker 2: I think Eckler is moving into more of a third
Speaker 2: down role, and like you said, he's wanted to have
Speaker 2: carries taken off. I think that's something he definitely discussed
Speaker 2: with Anthony Lynn before. So look, if he has a
Speaker 2: hot hand, they'll they'll write him, they'll give him carries
Speaker 2: if he's having a good stretch. But I think for
Speaker 2: the most part he's a beat to Brian Robinson, so
Speaker 2: I'm really not The landing spot is fine, but I
Speaker 2: think we need to take what Eckler is going to
Speaker 2: do with a grain of salt because I think he's
Speaker 2: a different back at this point in his career.
Speaker 1: Fits what do he make a Eckler in the Nation's capital.
Speaker 4: If you play in a dynasty league with me, and
Speaker 4: you are consuming this show, I ask that you not
Speaker 4: make me any trade offers involving Austin Eckler, because I
Speaker 4: will be batting them down like King Kong batted down
Speaker 4: biplanes from atop the Empire State Building. Once the milk
Speaker 4: goes bad, I do not want to consume it, even
Speaker 4: if it's poured over some deliciously sugary cereal like cinnamon
Speaker 4: Tell's Cronch or peanut butter Captain Kronch.
Speaker 3: Just avoid that with Eckler.
Speaker 4: I have no interest in a twenty nine year old
Speaker 4: Loston Eckler, who was completely ineffective in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Three fits is carrying over some of the serial discussion
Speaker 1: we had in a recent you know, eating getting together
Speaker 1: Cinematos crunch is one of my favorite.
Speaker 2: Apple jacks brought up. I mean, apple Jack's probably my
Speaker 2: number one.
Speaker 1: I'm not really an apple jack.
Speaker 3: They still make those.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, so I was.
Speaker 1: I was not allowed to have sugar cereal in the
Speaker 1: house growing up. Oh my mom, who is visiting, So say,
Speaker 1: in case you could hear me, I love you very much,
Speaker 1: but she she would not allow sugar cereal. So honey,
Speaker 1: bunches of votes and frosted mini weeks were like the
Speaker 1: most unhealthy we were allowed to have. Everything else had
Speaker 1: to be healthier, So I never had like the Reesi's
Speaker 1: puffs or the cinnamon toast crunch or cocoa puffs or
Speaker 1: any of that. You know, Lucky Challenge votes underrated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's great. I mean I am a big fit. Also,
Speaker 1: those two mixed together really well. But that's enough cereal talk.
Speaker 1: Let's go to DeAndre Swift to the Bears. What are
Speaker 1: the first deals we saw on that day one of
Speaker 1: the tampering period.
Speaker 2: A little bit of a surprise.
Speaker 1: This is a backfield that had pieces that people have
Speaker 1: been interested over the last couple of years. I was
Speaker 1: happy to get Roshawn Johnson in a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: second rounds of Dynasty rookie drafts just.
Speaker 3: A year ago.
Speaker 1: Doesn't look as good now, and that they've you know,
Speaker 1: given money to real money to Swift. But Bob, when
Speaker 1: I'll start with you again here Swift to the Bears,
Speaker 1: what do you make of that?
Speaker 2: I hate it. I do not like this landing spot
Speaker 2: at all for DeAndre Swift. I think he was in
Speaker 2: the perfect situation for himself. In Philly, it worked out
Speaker 2: real well behind one of those great offensive line and
Speaker 2: like we said, everything else poured together and more opportunities
Speaker 2: for him and all that stuff. It is the opposite
Speaker 2: in Chicago. Unless Caleb Williams comes in here and is
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. There's just not a lot of room for
Speaker 2: a smaller back. I think bigger backs fit better for
Speaker 2: this offense right now. Like Roshan Herbert is kind of
Speaker 2: does the same stuff that Swift does, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: maybe not as well. So I was just surprised to
Speaker 2: see Swift get so much money. I think this is
Speaker 2: going to be a similar situation to what he had
Speaker 2: in Detroit. And I just really do not like the
Speaker 2: landing spot. I am not. I wasn't high on Swift
Speaker 2: going in because he was a free agent, and I
Speaker 2: did not think Philly was going to bring him back,
Speaker 2: and they ended up not bringing him back. So I
Speaker 2: just really don't like the landing spot for Swift. You know,
Speaker 2: if somebody else would have landed there, I think if
Speaker 2: Josh Shacobs had been in Chicago would have been like, Okay,
Speaker 2: here we go, here's a main back. But I think
Speaker 2: he's going to be a piece of this backfield and
Speaker 2: I don't like that, So I'm probably going to be
Speaker 2: passing on Swift everywhere if it's where you're Adam.
Speaker 4: Swift Man, I think he's one of the hardest guys
Speaker 4: to value in Dynasty or Redraft for that batter. I mean,
Speaker 4: Detroit rejected him after several seasons, the Eagles saw what
Speaker 4: he offered and said thanks, but no thanks. Then Chicago
Speaker 4: turns around and gives him a pretty decent contract. But
Speaker 4: you have to wonder if he is going to clearly
Speaker 4: just relegates Roshan Johnson and Khalil Herbert to the dustbin,
Speaker 4: or if it's going to be like a committee. I mean,
Speaker 4: this has to be a downgrade for Rochan right like
Speaker 4: there was really and there was very little evidence last
Speaker 4: year that he could be capable of carrying an NFL backfield,
Speaker 4: So I understand why they wanted to add something, but boy,
Speaker 4: this is going to be murky.
Speaker 1: How would you how would you rank the three guys,
Speaker 1: you know, Roshan, Herbert and Swift in Dynasty?
Speaker 4: I mean Swift, Swift is still top twenty for me,
Speaker 4: Like he catches passes boy based on Week two and
Speaker 4: week three last year he looked like a world beater
Speaker 4: for Philly, and then after that, I don't think he
Speaker 4: had another one hundred yard game after having what like
Speaker 4: three hundred combined rushing yards in those two games. So
Speaker 4: he's still top twenty. For me, that might be too high,
Speaker 4: but that's just where I end up with him. And
Speaker 4: I'd rather have Roshan in Dynasty than Herbert just he's
Speaker 4: got the youth, and I think he's got a versatile
Speaker 4: skill set, so he could conceivably play on any of
Speaker 4: the three downs. I just Herbert's another guy, have no
Speaker 4: idea what to do with anymore, Like it looks good
Speaker 4: whenever he plays, but no one seems to want to
Speaker 4: give him a significant role.
Speaker 1: Do you see that backfield similarly, Bagman?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Fitz described it perfectly with you know, murky,
Speaker 2: I think that's the right word. I have Swift at
Speaker 2: twenty nine. I don't like him. I don't you know,
Speaker 2: he had scored six touchdowns with Billy last year, So
Speaker 2: you know, if you score six with Philly, how many
Speaker 2: I know, I know hurts out a lot, but how
Speaker 2: many of you score on with Chicago? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just I really don't like the spot. I think,
Speaker 2: like Fitz said, Herbert has to be the odd man
Speaker 2: out here because Swift and Herbert do similar things. Right,
Speaker 2: Roshan is your bigger, hulking back that's really good on
Speaker 2: pass downs too in terms of blocking, So I think
Speaker 2: it's going to be Roshan and Swift. I don't know
Speaker 2: what the split is going to be, but I think,
Speaker 2: you know, like we said with Pollard, when you pay
Speaker 2: a guy like Swift, I think he at least initially
Speaker 2: gets the bulk of the carry. So you know, a
Speaker 2: seventy thirty sixty five thirty five split something like that
Speaker 2: in Swift's favor. I just I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: think he can do it. So I'm not a big
Speaker 2: fan Fitz.
Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson to the Patriots, What do we making that one?
Speaker 3: Boy?
Speaker 4: I'm the original Antonio Gibson Truther. But it's hard to
Speaker 4: find the silver lining in this signing because it just
Speaker 4: feels like a lateral move. He goes from one mediocre
Speaker 4: offense to another. Now he's behind Remandre instead of Brian Robinson,
Speaker 4: and I think Remandre's better than Brian Robinson. So hard
Speaker 4: to see Gibson getting significantly more touches out of this.
Speaker 4: About the only positive is that the new England coaching
Speaker 4: staff probably isn't going to bench Gibson every time he fumbles,
Speaker 4: just you know, lock him away and fumble, jail and
Speaker 4: throw away the key like Ron Rivera did every time.
Speaker 4: So still, though I've got him like RB fifty eight
Speaker 4: for Dynasty, I just don't see much reason for optimism.
Speaker 1: He's forty six in ECR. Are we forty six Antonio Gibson, Bogman?
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I have him at fifty one, and I tell
Speaker 2: you what, I think I can find the silver lining here.
Speaker 2: If Alex van Pelt wants to put him out in
Speaker 2: the slot, maybe a little bit more right because this
Speaker 2: is a guy that played wide receiver at Memphis. He
Speaker 2: came into Washington, they moved him to running back. They
Speaker 2: don't have any speed on this team still, so you know,
Speaker 2: maybe this is an option in the slot on occasion,
Speaker 2: but Stevenson's going to be the main guy. You know.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if Gibson when it's all said
Speaker 2: and done, after rookies are drafted, I don't even know
Speaker 2: if I have him as an RB four. So probably
Speaker 2: an RB five later will move with the offense not
Speaker 2: being good and you know, we don't know who the
Speaker 2: quarterback is right now.
Speaker 1: You can probably go quickly on this one. But Devin's
Speaker 1: Singletary to the Giants, what do we think about that?
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the significant amount of carriers are opening
Speaker 1: up with Saqua not there, but Singletary hasn't really been
Speaker 1: able to take advantage of that so much in the past. Fits.
Speaker 1: What do you think about him?
Speaker 4: Not super excited long term, but in the short term,
Speaker 4: I actually think it's good for him in terms of
Speaker 4: playing time, even if it's not the healthiest offensive ecosystem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, same, you know, a good spot in terms of
Speaker 2: he's going to get a lot of touches, but not
Speaker 2: a very good offense. So you gotta hope if you're
Speaker 2: rostering single tear that you know, Daniel Jones looks like
Speaker 2: the best version of himself and they add some talent
Speaker 2: at wide out.
Speaker 1: This next one I'm really intrigued by, actually, Zach Moss
Speaker 1: to the Bengals. Obviously, Joe Mixon is God, We'll get
Speaker 1: to that in a second. But Moss, when Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 1: was not playing last year in Indy, had some really
Speaker 1: nice performances. I had him in a dynasty league where
Speaker 1: I wanted to lose. I was trying to rebuild, and
Speaker 1: he kept winning me games on accident because he just
Speaker 1: kept playing, you know, above what I thought he was.
Speaker 1: He was really capable of. But when he had that
Speaker 1: backfield to himself, he was getting the workload, he was
Speaker 1: doing the passing game, He's doing it everywhere. I was
Speaker 1: really impressed there could be an opportunity here. I know
Speaker 1: Chase Brown obviously is somebody that there was you know,
Speaker 1: we've had some some degree of interest in in the past,
Speaker 1: but Zach mosson since the Bogman, I kind of like it.
Speaker 2: I like Zack Moss. I think Zach Moss is a
Speaker 2: very good running back. The problem with Zach Moss is
Speaker 2: that he has missed games in every single season that
Speaker 2: he's played. And it's not just missing games, it's also
Speaker 2: the questionable tag, the doubtful tag, the if he plays,
Speaker 2: how much are they going to give him stuff? So
Speaker 2: that is, you know, Zach Moss is a highly skilled
Speaker 2: running back that cannot stay on the field. I think
Speaker 2: he's probably better than Chase Brown in terms of just
Speaker 2: being a runner. But Chase Brown availability is the best ability,
Speaker 2: and that dude has it. He had all kinds of
Speaker 2: carries at Illinois and look great, and now he's got
Speaker 2: an opportunity in a very good offense and Sincinnati to
Speaker 2: possibly take a much bigger workload than he had last
Speaker 2: year with Joe Mixon there. So I like the opportunity
Speaker 2: for both these guys. I think Moss is better, but
Speaker 2: I think this is going to be closer to fifty
Speaker 2: to fifty than anticipated.
Speaker 1: What do you make of this backfield? Fits? To me,
Speaker 1: Moss is the type of guy whoere maybe not necessarily
Speaker 1: going out and making a bunch of offers for him
Speaker 1: right now. I'm probably not looking to sell him either.
Speaker 1: He just feels like the type of player where if
Speaker 1: you had him already, you're about to kind of reach
Speaker 1: some of those rewards with the added value, but it's
Speaker 1: not like he's going to be like a league winner
Speaker 1: or anything like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good way to put a worm like.
Speaker 4: I think the Derrick Henry signing is going to spawn
Speaker 4: a lot of trades because he should be on win
Speaker 4: now teams, whereas the Zach Moss signing, I think is
Speaker 4: just like the stakeholders want to keep him, and no
Speaker 4: one's really rushing out to go and trade for him either,
Speaker 4: So I.
Speaker 3: Agree with that.
Speaker 4: We were probably expecting him to sign as a backup somewhere,
Speaker 4: and this is better than you could have expected from
Speaker 4: Moss going to a really good offense where he's going
Speaker 4: to play. And I'm really excited for Chase Brown now,
Speaker 4: like I've got Chase.
Speaker 3: I've got Moss.
Speaker 4: RB fifty in Dynasty and Chase Brown RB twenty six.
Speaker 4: And what we saw to Brown last year was really exciting,
Speaker 4: even if it was in a pretty limited dose, But
Speaker 4: we're going to get a heavier dose now this year
Speaker 4: in that really good offense. And what I'd like this
Speaker 4: to look like is in Ezekiel Elliott Tony.
Speaker 3: Pollard type split where Moss is.
Speaker 4: Playing the Zeke crawl, albeit you know, he's a pretty
Speaker 4: water down version of peak Zeke Elliott's and uh, Chase Brown.
Speaker 3: In the Pollard rawl.
Speaker 4: Like I think that is how this could work out
Speaker 4: really well, if you know, if Moss can hold up.
Speaker 3: Because Bagman mentioned the injury concerns.
Speaker 1: Am I forgetting do they have any kind of name
Speaker 1: as RB three? I feel like this could be a team. Okay, Williams.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris, that guy has never Yeah, those guys special
Speaker 4: to get traction.
Speaker 1: I bring that up to say I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 1: that this is a team that maybe drafts like a
Speaker 1: you know, Day three running back as well to pair
Speaker 1: with those two since neither of them really is fully
Speaker 1: proven or anything yet. And this is again we've talked
Speaker 1: about a lot. It's maybe not the best running back
Speaker 1: rookie class, but there there are role players available, so
Speaker 1: I could see them maybe trying to get kind of
Speaker 1: a third name into the mix as well. The guy
Speaker 1: that's leaving since he uh and is traded to the
Speaker 1: Texans Joe Mixon uh, somebody who has been a really,
Speaker 1: really valuable fantasy asset in the past and is now
Speaker 1: in just a sublime landing spot. But I was talking
Speaker 1: with ericson, you know, a couple of days ago when
Speaker 1: the straight first happened, that you know, to what degree
Speaker 1: do we think mixing is actually kind of washed? I
Speaker 1: know he had a bit of a bounce back last year. Again,
Speaker 1: the landing spot is really great. I'm not that excited
Speaker 1: about the player at this stage in his career. I
Speaker 1: might be a little overly negative though, what do you
Speaker 1: think fits.
Speaker 3: You framed that really well?
Speaker 4: Also, wor like man I didn't know, I wasn't very
Speaker 4: enthusiastic about mix in with the Bengals because there were
Speaker 4: always the rumors that they were going to release him,
Speaker 4: and you know, eventually that happened.
Speaker 3: But this is just a.
Speaker 4: Good landing spot for him because at least we have
Speaker 4: clarity with Joe Mixon now. And I agree he's, you know,
Speaker 4: not one of the ten most talented backs in the league,
Speaker 4: even though he's been really productive, a good rental for
Speaker 4: dynasty managers in when now mo just like Derrick Henry
Speaker 4: and I don't know. I mean, i'd say his value
Speaker 4: is equivalent to in early second round pick in super
Speaker 4: flex drafts.
Speaker 3: Like I think if I were.
Speaker 4: In win now mode, I'd be willing to give up
Speaker 4: that sort of a pick or maybe like one O
Speaker 4: eight or one O nine in a one QB dynasty
Speaker 4: league because like, he's going to be able to help you.
Speaker 4: This is a great offense. He's going to carry the
Speaker 4: load mostly by himself. I think Damian Pierce is just
Speaker 4: a strict backup, So there's absolute twenty twenty four value
Speaker 4: for him, maybe beyond so you know, even though I'm not,
Speaker 4: you know, projecting a lot of value into like his
Speaker 4: third year with the Texans.
Speaker 2: I ask you a player debate here, Uh, you'd rather
Speaker 2: have Joe Mixon or let's go with Nick Chubb Mixon
Speaker 2: about Mixon or Zach Charboney. That one's tough, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I I I got him next to each other.
Speaker 2: That's why I asked you. I think that problem for
Speaker 2: me fits fodds.
Speaker 4: I had mix In behind sharbon Ay, and upon this signing,
Speaker 4: I moved Mixing ahead of Sharbone.
Speaker 2: I having two spots ahead of Sharbonnay. So and it's difficult, though,
Speaker 2: because you know, for me, I do look even in Dynasty,
Speaker 2: I look in a shorter window. I look for three years, right,
Speaker 2: But I think Mixon is one of these guys that
Speaker 2: you have to look at year to year moving forward.
Speaker 2: Because he does not produce for Houston, they will cut him,
Speaker 2: and who knows what he is then he might be nothing.
Speaker 2: And charbon Ay is just beginning his career. So sorry,
Speaker 2: I don't it's tough.
Speaker 4: I don't have it in front of me. What was
Speaker 4: the duration of Mixon's contract with the Texans. Did they
Speaker 4: give him three.
Speaker 2: Well, they traded him, so it's well, that's right.
Speaker 3: That's right, So it was a trade, not a release,
Speaker 3: that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually, I think I have it on my sheet here,
Speaker 2: I can look at it. His contract with Houston now
Speaker 2: is only this year. So oh okay, six point one
Speaker 2: against the cap. So let's quickly wrap on the running
Speaker 2: backs with Gus Edward.
Speaker 1: Did the Chargers? We can go quickly ad on Edwards.
Speaker 1: But I just bring it up because there is you know,
Speaker 1: Kerry's available here with Eckler God and it's a team
Speaker 1: that you know, now that they've Greg Roman will want
Speaker 1: to run the ball a lot. Obviously, Gus Edwards has
Speaker 1: excelled in a Greg Roman offense before. Maybe more kind
Speaker 1: of like we've talked about some of these other aging
Speaker 1: running backs, a win now type of player to go after,
Speaker 1: but I think he's a type of player that could
Speaker 1: offer for like the eighth consecutive year sneaky value, you know,
Speaker 1: just based on touchdown equity and the fact that the
Speaker 1: team runs so much. What do you think, Bob mean
Speaker 1: quickly on Edwards?
Speaker 2: I mean you said it too. I mean, you know
Speaker 2: there's an opportunity here. The Chargers don't have a lot
Speaker 2: of money, They have other holes to fill, so running
Speaker 2: back is going to be pretty low on that draft list.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think us Edwards for this year holds
Speaker 2: value for the future, probably not so much, but we've
Speaker 2: said that about him, like you said, for eight years,
Speaker 2: and he keeps holding a little value. So I mean
Speaker 2: an RB four isn't bad fits.
Speaker 1: What do you think is he going to be a
Speaker 1: good mentor to Blake Korum?
Speaker 3: Exactly?
Speaker 4: Bogs You know, Jim Harbaugh is going to draft play Korum,
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean Edwards is going to share work.
Speaker 4: He turns twenty nine in a eight April. Dynasty leagues
Speaker 4: are PPR leagues, and Edwards doesn't catch passes.
Speaker 3: I'm just not interested. He's like RB sixty eight for me.
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Speaker 1: I know we went pretty long on the running backs.
Speaker 1: They were kind of the story of early free agencies,
Speaker 1: so I think that was reasonable. We'll go a bit
Speaker 1: quicker on the other positions because there just hasn't been
Speaker 1: as much quarterbacks. The obviously big one is Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: to the Falcons. This is something that we talked about
Speaker 1: in some of our preview shows. What it could mean.
Speaker 1: I think the general consensus was maybe a bit of
Speaker 1: a downgrade for Kirk, but certainly an upgrade for the
Speaker 1: guys around him. Bogg mean, what's your biggest takeaway. Is
Speaker 1: it a downgrade for the Vikings guys. Is it the
Speaker 1: downgrade for Kirk? Is it the upgrade for the Atlanta guys.
Speaker 1: What's the biggest storyline from this transaction?
Speaker 2: I think it's the upgrade for the Atlanta guys. You know,
Speaker 2: there are questions with Kirk though. He's coming off this
Speaker 2: Achilles injury, so it's not like this is a clean move.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna have to see what Kirk looks like
Speaker 2: in camp, what he's moving around like, is this does
Speaker 2: this get reaggravated or anything? Obviously we hope not. They
Speaker 2: just dropped the Brinks truck on him, so we're assuming
Speaker 2: he's gonna be okay and out there for week one
Speaker 2: and look fine. So if that is the case, which
Speaker 2: we all hope and assume, then yes, it's the Drake
Speaker 2: London moving up. Kyle Pitt's moving up, maybe just more
Speaker 2: in the overall, probably not positionally because he's already so high.
Speaker 2: And for Minnesota, I mean, it sucks for Minnesota, San
Speaker 2: Doarnold is whatever. But I think for Atlanta it's a
Speaker 2: nice boost for Kirk himself. I mean, I'm gonna move
Speaker 2: him down one spot. I'm gonna move him below Matt Stafford,
Speaker 2: right because they're both eighty eight babies, they're both the
Speaker 2: same age, and he's not coming off this injury. Stafford's
Speaker 2: not coming off an injury. And I would have had
Speaker 2: I had Kirk ahead, assuming he was gonna Lanta Minnesota, because,
Speaker 2: like we said, Kevin O'Connell loves to a man in
Speaker 2: the run. He loves to pass the ball, especially with Kirk.
Speaker 2: I think that changes with Kirk gone. So I think
Speaker 2: this is a lot I'll move for the value of
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, but it boosts the guys around him, and
Speaker 2: we like that fits.
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 4: Yeah, hard to put Cousins in the top twenty five
Speaker 4: in Dynasty rankings because he's gonna turn thirty six and
Speaker 4: is coming off that Achilles injury. But he's always been
Speaker 4: a better fantasy quarterback than real life quarterback, and I
Speaker 4: think he is capable of finally unlocking Drake London and
Speaker 4: Kyle Pitts, who you know, not only are rid of
Speaker 4: Arthur Smith, but gain this quarterback who's proven to be
Speaker 4: a really good distributor. Maybe Cousins can even unlock a
Speaker 4: certain diminutive former Purdue wide receiver who we're going to
Speaker 4: talk about later.
Speaker 1: Uh, yes, for sure. Just just quickly on the Vikings
Speaker 1: side of it, though, are you guys downgrading Jefferson and
Speaker 1: Addison and Hockinson. I know he's got the injury at all,
Speaker 1: like significantly with this.
Speaker 2: I mean, those guys are QB proof. There's not a
Speaker 2: lot of QB proof guys in the league. Weren't, but
Speaker 2: you know, Jefferson proved it last year. He's putting up
Speaker 2: big games with Dobbs and guys like Pat, so I
Speaker 2: think he's fine. And Addison made Kenny Pickett all that
Speaker 2: money apparently, so you know, I think these guys are
Speaker 2: somewhat QB proof.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, I'm not downgrading them in
Speaker 4: terms of dynasty value. It sucks for them the short term,
Speaker 4: but they've they're young guys with long career runways, so
Speaker 4: I wouldn't, you know, significantly downgrade their value.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw four backup e quarterbacks your guys' way.
Speaker 1: Pick one that is at all interesting, and maybe the
Speaker 1: answer is zero. Sam Donald to the Vikings could be
Speaker 1: their starter, depending We'll see what they do the rest
Speaker 1: of the off season. Russell Wilson to the Steelers could
Speaker 1: be their starter. Sorry, Bogman, Jamis Winston to Cleveland, where
Speaker 1: we just saw what a backup quarterback can do, you know,
Speaker 1: if Deshaun Watson continues to be ineffective or you know,
Speaker 1: not healthy. And then right before we started recording, Desmond
Speaker 1: Ritter to Arizona for Greg Dortsch, who was just you know,
Speaker 1: referenced by by fits. We'll get to him in a second.
Speaker 1: But of the quarterbacks, Donald Russ, Jamis and Ritter, anything here, Bogman?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Donald, you know he keeps getting shots, and you know,
Speaker 2: can we say that he's had a fair shake. I
Speaker 2: think he probably has that He's probably not the guy,
Speaker 2: but the Jets were miserable, Adam Gase, the Panthers. Look
Speaker 2: at the Panthers, look at all the mistakes that that
Speaker 2: franchise has made. They've been terrible. And then he didn't
Speaker 2: get a shot because brock perty was busy leading the
Speaker 2: Niners to the Super Bowl. So I don't know that
Speaker 2: he's gotten a real fair shake. But I also would
Speaker 2: say that a guy that is super talented wouldn't be
Speaker 2: on his fourth team. So Sam Darnold is potentially getting
Speaker 2: another shot here depending on what the Vikings do in
Speaker 2: the draft. But I think he's the only one that
Speaker 2: really holds interest. Sure, Wilson's gonna start for a year,
Speaker 2: but he's washed. Ritter's trash. I mean, he's nothing to me.
Speaker 2: And then you know who is the last guy here?
Speaker 2: Oh Winston Winston and Cleveland is not bad, but I
Speaker 2: think Winston wants to be a backup. I don't think
Speaker 2: he really wants to play, so there were other opportunities
Speaker 2: he probably could have taken if he wanted to start,
Speaker 2: So I think he's fine holding the clipboard. I think
Speaker 2: it's probably the best place for him anyway, So maybe
Speaker 2: there's an opportunity for him to play. But out of
Speaker 2: this group, Donald is the only really interesting one to me.
Speaker 1: At all fits What do you think about this group before?
Speaker 4: I don't want Ritter or Winston on my Dynasty roster,
Speaker 4: just no use for him.
Speaker 3: Wilson.
Speaker 4: This at least preserves his value by giving him a
Speaker 4: home for twenty twenty four. I've got him QB thirty
Speaker 4: for Dynasty. I don't know if he's the same guy
Speaker 4: he was before, but at least he's got a job.
Speaker 4: Donald is interesting, like I don't know if he can
Speaker 4: be a league average starting quarterback, but there have been
Speaker 4: interesting flashes. I think it was what early in the
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one season, like those first four or five
Speaker 4: games with the Panthers, he was actually good.
Speaker 3: For a while.
Speaker 4: I think he had like four rushing touchdowns in those
Speaker 4: first five games, as decent as a passer.
Speaker 3: Then the wheels just kind of came off. But then
Speaker 3: the following year, is that one he.
Speaker 2: Had motto or was that in New York? I can't
Speaker 2: remember the mono.
Speaker 3: Good question.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say the mono was in New York. I
Speaker 4: think then that was when he was with the Jets.
Speaker 4: Then in twenty twenty two, when Baker Mayfield the one guy,
Speaker 4: and like DJ Moore, has played with a litany of
Speaker 4: mediocre quarterbacks throughout his career. Like DJ Moore, ha managed
Speaker 4: to produce with like Kyle Allen, and all of a
Speaker 4: sudden couldn't get going with Baker Mayfield. He and Mayfield
Speaker 4: just couldn't get on the same page. The Panthers trade
Speaker 4: Mayfield to the Rams and Donald comes in and actually
Speaker 4: gets DJ Moore jump started again, So like, I'm curious
Speaker 4: if Darnald has learned enough now with his time on
Speaker 4: the bench. You know, we've seen that formula work for
Speaker 4: quarterbacks in Green Bay. A guy gets to sit and
Speaker 4: learn and all of a sudden they get a chance
Speaker 4: to play and they look really good.
Speaker 3: So maybe that happens with Darnold. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I forget when I said this out lad if I
Speaker 1: said right now Moore or Greg Dortch. But the guy
Speaker 1: that Ritter was traded four was more. Dortsch, of course,
Speaker 1: is a guy in arizon that lot of people are
Speaker 1: excited about. So as we moved to the receivers, I
Speaker 1: want to ask you about both those guys. Rydelle Moore
Speaker 1: a guy who when he was in college, we were
Speaker 1: talking about it before the show fits when he was
Speaker 1: at Purdue, like there was some real legitimate excitement about him,
Speaker 1: has not panned out in Arizona. Dorchy's a guy that
Speaker 1: people have loved to see when he's gotten opportunities, kind
Speaker 1: of a favorite like fantasy sleeper in the industry. Either
Speaker 1: of those guys interest you more now that this trade
Speaker 1: has gone down.
Speaker 4: Man, Like, I don't know, I mean, it seems like
Speaker 4: there's not any more opportunity for Rondale in Atlanta than
Speaker 4: he had in Arizona. Like Arizona, there was probably a
Speaker 4: better path to targets than there is now. I don't
Speaker 4: want to give up on the guy because I loved
Speaker 4: him so much when he was at Purdue. I mean,
Speaker 4: when he was a freshman, he averaged like better than
Speaker 4: one hundred yards from scrimmage a game, basically one touchdown
Speaker 4: per game, beat Ohio State more or less single handedly
Speaker 4: when he was a freshman. It just hasn't worked out
Speaker 4: for him, hasn't been able to stay healthy. It just
Speaker 4: seems like a very limited short area receiver.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 4: I can't say I have a lot of hope that
Speaker 4: this is going to rekindle Rondell Moore's dynasty value.
Speaker 1: Bogman, this was such a dynasty trade, like a long
Speaker 1: time week. Two guys just distressed assets, Like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: I kind of need a quarterback. Maybe Ritter will have
Speaker 1: a shot, Oh yeah, okay, maybe more kind of fixing out.
Speaker 1: It feels like a dynasty league trade that just happened
Speaker 1: in the real NFL.
Speaker 2: I mean, Rondo Moore would rank fifth of guys with
Speaker 2: his last name at wide receiver in the NFL, DJ Moore,
Speaker 2: Elijah Moore, Sky Moore. I mean you're putting him behind Sky. Really,
Speaker 2: I'd put him behind Sky. I'd put him behind Chris
Speaker 2: Moore as well.
Speaker 3: So geez.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, Rondo Moore is done. I maybe Atlanta
Speaker 2: unlocked something. He just doesn't have the speed to separate
Speaker 2: any small He can't make contested catches, which makes him
Speaker 2: nothing in the NFL. Moved a running back. Uh so
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know what he's look, you know
Speaker 2: the same it's a whole different regime. But this is
Speaker 2: the same franchise that put Patterson at running back, So
Speaker 2: maybe they want to do that with Rondelle Moore. I
Speaker 2: don't know, but he ain't a wide receiver. I know that.
Speaker 1: Well, let's let's jump ahead to We'll skip some of
Speaker 1: the bigger wide receiver names for the time being and
Speaker 1: go to Darnell Mooney, who also is going to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Seems like a really good fit in terms of can
Speaker 1: maybe get some defensive interest but not take two many
Speaker 1: targets away from like Drake London or Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 2: So kind of a perfect fit.
Speaker 1: I think as a complimentary piece in terms of what
Speaker 1: Dynasty managers are looking for out of their stars, right Bogman, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think so too. I think this is a good
Speaker 2: landing spot for him. I mean, how many you know
Speaker 2: of those compilations did we see of you know him
Speaker 2: wide open and then just be overthrown by whoever fields
Speaker 2: or whoever was quarterbacking in Chicago. So I do think
Speaker 2: there's an opportunity for Mooney here in Atlanta to be something.
Speaker 2: I'm still gonna have him like in the sixties. Probably
Speaker 2: among the wide receiver is deep, and we have a
Speaker 2: big class coming in two So in terms of value
Speaker 2: it's not high, But in terms of upside, there is
Speaker 2: a lot with Mooney. There is nothing with Rondo Moore.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's Mooney is down at wide receiver
Speaker 1: seventy eight in dynasty. Any interest in bumping him.
Speaker 4: Up or I've got him sixty five? Mooney is an
Speaker 4: underrated wide receiver and I like this signing a lot
Speaker 4: for Atlanta. I think it's gonna help them, But it
Speaker 4: is hard to see targets being anything but sparse for Mooney.
Speaker 3: With you know, London pits.
Speaker 4: It just it seems like Mooney is gonna have a
Speaker 4: boombust profile because he's not gonna be targeted heavily. There're
Speaker 4: gonna be some splash plays in big games, but it's
Speaker 4: gonna be really hard to predict him. I'd rather have
Speaker 4: him in best Ball dynasty than in managed league dynasty,
Speaker 4: where you have to set a lineup every week.
Speaker 1: Let's get to the biggest wide receiver move Calvin Ridley.
Speaker 1: I get a surprise. It seemed like the Jags. It
Speaker 1: seemed like maybe the Patriots were in on them. He
Speaker 1: goes to the Ty four years, ninety two million, very
Speaker 1: big deal, bog mean. Fitz and I have talked a
Speaker 1: bit about Ridley on a you know, quick recap microcast
Speaker 1: yesterday from day three R free agency. So I want
Speaker 1: to start with you and get your opinion on this deal.
Speaker 2: I think this is good for Tennessee. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's good for Ridley. It's fine for Ridley. I
Speaker 2: also find it funny that, you know, all the memes
Speaker 2: we've seen is, hey, look the Titans for plus eighteen
Speaker 2: hundred to get Calvin Ridley and he winds up there.
Speaker 2: That's strange. But there's that, and then there's also you know,
Speaker 2: just the fact that I think he can come in
Speaker 2: here and be a number one and be the number
Speaker 2: one four Will Levis. So they also didn't they trade
Speaker 2: Agent Brown because he wanted one hundred mil for four years.
Speaker 2: They gave Calvin Ridley ninety six. I mean, I think
Speaker 2: you might have messed up there, Tennessee, which is why
Speaker 2: Mike Frable has gone now. But look, just the landing
Speaker 2: spot is fine for Calvin Ridley. I think it's fairly
Speaker 2: lateral because Trevor Lawrence and Jack did not look good
Speaker 2: last year. So I think it's a good spot for
Speaker 2: him to potentially be a number one. Uh, but it's
Speaker 2: not super exciting. It's fine. It's very lateral to me.
Speaker 1: What do you make Bogman quickly of Levice right now
Speaker 1: in Dynasty because he had occasional flashes, he was a
Speaker 1: guy that's pretty divisive during the draft process. He now
Speaker 1: is throwing to DeAndre Hopkins at Calva Ridley. He now
Speaker 1: has both Spears and Tony Pollard in the backfield, the skills,
Speaker 1: and they are going to draft an offensive lineman in
Speaker 1: the top ten. You have to believe like there are
Speaker 1: a lot of pieces in place for him to take
Speaker 1: a step forward if he has it in him to
Speaker 1: do so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, you know it's gonna be how
Speaker 2: quickly he picks up this offense, right, and that that
Speaker 2: is the big thing with him is we know he
Speaker 2: has everything that's unteachable. He can run, he has a
Speaker 2: gigantic arm, So it's about the processing. It's about being
Speaker 2: able to fit, and it's about being able to make
Speaker 2: throws in the pocket and not bail out real fast.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot going into his development. But if
Speaker 2: you are going to develop a guy like Will Levis,
Speaker 2: you have to surround him with talent, and I think
Speaker 2: the Titans are moving towards that, So I think it's
Speaker 2: a smart idea. I think adding a guy like Ridley
Speaker 2: helps the overall offense and it helps your quarterback too,
Speaker 2: So I like this move for him a lot fits.
Speaker 1: We already reacted to this on Yesay's microcasts, but from
Speaker 1: a Dynasty perspective, quickly, what are your thoughts.
Speaker 4: I like it for Levis, but I don't see any
Speaker 4: silver lining for Ridley's value with this signing.
Speaker 3: He goes to a team.
Speaker 4: That already has a very well established, accomplished wide receiver,
Speaker 4: and one that has an unproven quarterback. I mean, we
Speaker 4: saw Will Levlis lighted up in his debut last year
Speaker 4: four touchdowns, and the rest of the season was like
Speaker 4: the Chris Farley meme where he's like really excited and
Speaker 4: then it just turns to like.
Speaker 2: Jojo the Idiots Circus disappointment.
Speaker 4: So yeah, like, I just I don't see how this
Speaker 4: really helps Calvin Ridley's value.
Speaker 3: He's twenty nine.
Speaker 4: What he gave us last year wasn't a bad performance,
Speaker 4: but it was definitely below superstar level. So I'm just
Speaker 4: I'm not excited about this.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the guy that is now in Jacksonville
Speaker 1: replacing Calvin Ridley, and that's Gabe Davis. This is another
Speaker 1: guy who bogged me we talked about last week. If
Speaker 1: he couldn't figure it out with Josh Allen, how is
Speaker 1: he going to figure it out somewhere else? He's now
Speaker 1: attempting to with the guy who has all the talent
Speaker 1: in the world and Trevor Lawrence but hasn't quite taken
Speaker 1: that next leap yet. What do you make of Davis's
Speaker 1: dynasty value in Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: It's not good, you know, I think exactly what you
Speaker 2: said is we can't figure it out with Josh Allen, how
Speaker 2: you're going to figure out anywhere else? Right? So, I
Speaker 2: mean maybe Trevor Lawrence has more touch on those downfield throws,
Speaker 2: but he has not looked good. He's not lived up
Speaker 2: to his hype. I guess I should say it's not
Speaker 2: that he hasn't been good, he just definitely has not
Speaker 2: been the next chosen one that we all thought he
Speaker 2: was going to be when he came out of Clemson.
Speaker 2: So a good spot. You're fourth in the pecking order
Speaker 2: in terms maybe fifth in pecking order in terms of receptions,
Speaker 2: behind say Jones, Christian Kirk, Evan Ingram, and probably drives
Speaker 2: et In as well. So I do not like the
Speaker 2: spot for him at all.
Speaker 1: Fitz I was surprised to see that Gave Davis is
Speaker 1: still only twenty four. He'll be twenty five in a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, so he'll be twenty five byutes time
Speaker 1: the season starts, obviously, but still just twenty four years old.
Speaker 1: I mean, he there's time right there. He could maybe
Speaker 1: figure it out if if Lawrence kind of also takes
Speaker 1: the leap and he gets used more. I mean it's
Speaker 1: kind of hard to get used more than being the
Speaker 1: number two receiver in that Bill's offense. But I guess
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to kind of grasping at straws here
Speaker 1: for some optimism.
Speaker 4: Well, think back to that playoff game against the Chiefs.
Speaker 4: Like a guy who stinks could not have that sort
Speaker 4: of a game, So it's not a bad landing spot.
Speaker 4: I probably like Trevor Lawrence and have more optimism for
Speaker 4: him than Bogman does. But I guess the issue with
Speaker 4: Gabe Davis has been his ability to earn targets, and
Speaker 4: I don't know if he all of a sudden becomes
Speaker 4: a pro and at target earner in Jacksonville. So like
Speaker 4: Darnell Mooney, he is a guy I'd rather having a
Speaker 4: best ball dynasty league than in a managed league where
Speaker 4: you have to decide whether to start him every week.
Speaker 1: That performance in the playoffs against Kansas City, that was
Speaker 1: such a prime example of like signature significance. Like if
Speaker 1: a guy does that, there has to be some level
Speaker 1: of competency or greatness in him, because that doesn't just
Speaker 1: fluke into a performance like that. He was dominant. The
Speaker 1: other big name ride receiver changing teams, Deontay Johnson traded
Speaker 1: to the Carolina Panthers for a cornerback in a late
Speaker 1: round pickswap. This is another one that fits, and I
Speaker 1: talked about a little bit in the micro cast yesterday.
Speaker 1: So Bogman, I'll start with you again. I mean, a
Speaker 1: guy who got all the targets he could possibly ask
Speaker 1: for in Pittsburgh with poor quarterback play kind of looks
Speaker 1: like he's going into that same spot, but maybe actually
Speaker 1: coming from one of the places where Carolina is a
Speaker 1: quarterback upgrade. Possibly if you bake in some improvement in
Speaker 1: year two for Bryce Young.
Speaker 2: Yeah you'd think so, right, Like, you know, improve this
Speaker 2: often of line so he can keep your guy upright
Speaker 2: right that that is the big thing for the Carolina
Speaker 2: Panthers here, And they added two guards so specifically on
Speaker 2: the interior was the issue last year. So I think
Speaker 2: it's very very those were better moves for Bryce Young
Speaker 2: than adding up bunch of targets here for him, because
Speaker 2: if the kid doesn't have one Mississippi to throw the
Speaker 2: football doesn't really matter how good the targets are. So
Speaker 2: they addressed that first and then they traded for Deontay
Speaker 2: So look, good riddence to Deontay. I don't like him
Speaker 2: at all. I think he's a terrible teammate and I'm
Speaker 2: glad he's gone. But in Tonio fantasy, I think he's awful.
Speaker 2: I punched Mitch Trubisky in the face. That's why Kenny
Speaker 2: Pickett came and came in and started the game. The
Speaker 2: first game that he did is because Deontay punched him
Speaker 2: in the face. So he's not a good teammate. He
Speaker 2: got in a fight with Mika Fitzpatrick in the locker
Speaker 2: room last year too, so he's definitely locker room cancer.
Speaker 2: But he's talent. He's very, very talented, and I think
Speaker 2: they were lacking any type of speed, a guy that
Speaker 2: could snap off a route play over the middle. They
Speaker 2: didn't have a tight end last year that was very
Speaker 2: good for Carolina. So you add someone that can actually
Speaker 2: catch the ball with a little bit of juice too,
Speaker 2: I think you help the overall offense. So I think
Speaker 2: this is a good move for Deontay. Like you mentioned,
Speaker 2: worm probably improved quarterback play even from a young guy,
Speaker 2: and Bryce Young looked bad last year, so I think
Speaker 2: it's a positive move overall for Deontay. Even though I
Speaker 2: do not like him as a person.
Speaker 1: Bog Win, give you thirty seconds on Mike Williams getting released.
Speaker 2: Who cares if he's Dustin done?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 4: Can can I hear Bogman's take on what the Deontay
Speaker 4: Johnson trade does for Pickens value?
Speaker 2: I think that for you know, Arthur Smith is a
Speaker 2: one wide receiver type of guy. If you noticed that
Speaker 2: last year, probably he's a one wide receiver and a
Speaker 2: john Nehus Smith type of guy. But you know, Drake
Speaker 2: Lennon was the only one really getting consistent target. So
Speaker 2: I think it's good for Pickens, but they do need
Speaker 2: to add somebody else because now this you know, Calvin
Speaker 2: Austen is the two now. So well, actually Tyler Boyd
Speaker 2: they signed today, So Tyler Boyd is the two now.
Speaker 2: But I still think you need a little more juice
Speaker 2: and speed someone over the middle. So I think they're
Speaker 2: probably going to add someone in the draft, and they're
Speaker 2: usually pretty successful at adding wide receivers in the draft.
Speaker 1: Not the most exciting tight end class. But just to
Speaker 1: name three moves here, Mike is SICKI to Cincinnati, Noah
Speaker 1: Fans staying with the Seahawks new offensive coordinator there now obviously,
Speaker 1: and Hayden Hurst while we were recording, this goes to
Speaker 1: the Chargers. Any of those three again, Kasiki to the Bengals,
Speaker 1: fans staying with the Seahawks, Hurst to the Chargers. You know, fits,
Speaker 1: I'll start with you here. Any of those three stand
Speaker 1: out to you or not really interested in any of them.
Speaker 4: I was hoping for a change of scenery for fan
Speaker 4: to see if another team could potentially leverage all that athleticism.
Speaker 4: No interest whatsoever in Hurst, Kasicki I'm a little confused about.
Speaker 4: I don't know if this is just another IRV Smith
Speaker 4: situation where all of a sudden we get interested in
Speaker 4: him because he's going to be in this good offense.
Speaker 4: And then it's this ad hoc tight end situation with Tanner,
Speaker 4: Hudson and Drew Sample and Gasiki all sharing targets. So
Speaker 4: I did move Gasicki up some, but I feel like
Speaker 4: it could be a trap.
Speaker 1: Bog mean, what do you think about any of those three?
Speaker 2: I know Offent I think is a possible guy to
Speaker 2: get a little more in a new system. It's Ryan
Speaker 2: Grubb coming in, so we'll see what he has. I
Speaker 2: assume they're going to run the ball a lot with
Speaker 2: McDonald as the head coach there, you know, run the ball,
Speaker 2: play defense. I think it's going to be the name
Speaker 2: of the game with Walker and Charboney, but there's too
Speaker 2: many targets. So Gazicki in Cincinnati. He'll probably have a
Speaker 2: couple of big games, but he'll be very hit or missed.
Speaker 2: So not a lot of excitement from the tight ends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Also not really interested in Hurst, but
Speaker 1: you know, back reunited with Greg Roman, for whatever that's worth.
Speaker 1: I think probably not a lot that was jet packed.
Speaker 1: We got through a ton of players there, obviously very
Speaker 1: heavily weighted towards the running backs like we alluded to,
Speaker 1: but that was the way this free agency went. So
Speaker 1: I appreciate everybody sticking around to the end of the show.
Speaker 1: For Bogman and for Fits, I'm Ryan Warmley. We'll see
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