Speaker 1: Welcome the Guys We Fuck, the Anti Slutshamings Podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: Christina Hutchings, I'm Karen Fisher and I'm always Bread. We
Speaker 1: bring us so slubby, your horning and your shame. Hey
Speaker 1: it was what yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, hey fuckers, how you doing where you've been?
Speaker 1: Did you clip your fingernails? Make sure you've lost? Welcome
Speaker 1: to another episode of Guys We Fucked. It's anti slutching podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm Karen Fisher, I'm Christina Hutchinson. There always I was
Speaker 1: gonna say this Thursday, and I'm like, no, this is
Speaker 1: this is going to come out after that way. I
Speaker 1: was so excited. Yeah, I was so excited. What's going
Speaker 1: to come out a day after for luminary subscribers. Well,
Speaker 1: if you weren't there, man, that great. It was so
Speaker 1: good man. That midnight theater show was so great, Eric,
Speaker 1: you were phenomenal. The craziest thing happened. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: so crazy. Eric, you handled it really well. We're proud
Speaker 1: of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you really are stable in your masculinity. Yeah, uh huh,
Speaker 2: we appreciate that about you.
Speaker 1: Oh man. Feelings check ins everyone, this is what they're
Speaker 1: doing in school now. I read a whole article about it.
Speaker 1: Feelings checking, Yeah, feelings checking everyone. How's everyone feeling, Eric?
Speaker 1: What's your feeling? How are you feeling? You look pale?
Speaker 3: Vulnerable?
Speaker 1: You're feeling The first answer revealed the truth. Why are
Speaker 1: you feeling vulnerable? He said, I'm feeling vulnerable?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's making you feel vulnerable?
Speaker 4: Eric?
Speaker 1: The yeah that you know what? I make you feel vulnerable?
Speaker 1: Feel vulnerable when I'm tired too, like you can like
Speaker 1: people can get more out.
Speaker 2: Of you, just like I'm so fragile, like like any
Speaker 2: little sound, I'm like, I'll just say, Okay, you shouldn't
Speaker 2: let us know that.
Speaker 1: I say that on the mic. Also, I'm concerned about you, Eric,
Speaker 1: do you do you I feel like I should like
Speaker 1: bring a little tupper aware of protein snacks for you
Speaker 1: every day when I show up, you're looking vampiric what
Speaker 1: you eat?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I mean like this is I know it's annoying
Speaker 1: as a fellow pale person. I know it's very annoying
Speaker 1: to say, like to the point where like I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you okay? I was in the sun all day yesterday,
Speaker 1: I was in the sun on Saturday. Okay, So did
Speaker 1: you like on screen?
Speaker 3: No, I didn't.
Speaker 2: Eric, Eric, we're gonna you're gonna be You're gonna learn
Speaker 2: some beauty tips from us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Eric, that's not good.
Speaker 2: You're gonna you're not gonna come out of this experience
Speaker 2: on scathea.
Speaker 1: Moisturize as if it's the same thing. I know, they're
Speaker 1: both creamy, but they're doing different.
Speaker 2: Totally different things. One blocks harmful rays from the sun. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and the other one just you know, makes you have
Speaker 2: moist Yeah, you could.
Speaker 1: Get you can get a moisturizing SPF. A lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of products have SPF in them.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you'll say, yeah, get get get some no
Speaker 2: SPF time in more.
Speaker 1: Yeah you do with pale Okay, Well, but crazy job
Speaker 1: last night. I mean, I couldn't believe how you handled that.
Speaker 1: You rocked it. It was insane. How are you feeling, Krim,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling great. I so well. First of all, it's
Speaker 1: beautiful out and I realized I'm like, oh, we've gotten
Speaker 1: to March and I have experienced zero seasonal depression. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure it's due to climate change, but whatever it takes,
Speaker 1: whatever it takes, I don't really get bad seasonal depression
Speaker 1: because I actually like winter a lot. I love snow,
Speaker 1: I love cold. I didn't get to go skiing, which
Speaker 1: is a bummer. But yeah, no, I feel very very
Speaker 1: very good. That's excellent. I wish the subway was faster
Speaker 1: because I'm really trying to take less supers and they
Speaker 1: really test me. Yeah every time. But other than that,
Speaker 1: you know, it's fine. I like writing the subway. I
Speaker 1: think it's fun. I love writing the subway. It's a
Speaker 1: fun little adventure. There's so many characters there are, and
Speaker 1: they all smell. They all smell oddly the same. There
Speaker 1: is a specific scent for specific charity cares on the subway.
Speaker 2: You could tell from a card away who's urinated their pants.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be scratching stuff. How are you feeling,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good, very grounded. I was uh.
Speaker 2: I was walking around thinking, I'm pretty sure I'm not
Speaker 2: afraid to die, and then I got a little wake
Speaker 2: up call and I wasn't afraid, and I was like, well,
Speaker 2: all right, I'm not afraid to die. I was in
Speaker 2: The elevators in my building are notoriously awful, and they
Speaker 2: just drop.
Speaker 1: They need to replace them.
Speaker 2: They are replacing them, apparently, but it hasn't happened yet
Speaker 2: that's crazy. Yeah, And so a lot of times it's
Speaker 2: a tall building. It's a high rise, so it's the
Speaker 2: long lines of the to the to wait. And I
Speaker 2: was I've never been in an elevator that had an issue,
Speaker 2: but I was with Kevin and we were going outside yesterday,
Speaker 2: yes and the elevator dropped what it felt like five
Speaker 2: floors and then on the fifteenth floor and then the
Speaker 2: doors opened. But when it was dropping, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, well, this is how.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go.
Speaker 2: I had a less more stuff I wanted to do,
Speaker 2: but that's all right, we're gonna We're gonna die gracefully
Speaker 2: and uh and then I didn't die, and I was like, well, damn,
Speaker 2: what a little gift I got today.
Speaker 1: That's a very own Twilight Zone Tower of Terror.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, but not as fun as fun
Speaker 2: as fun.
Speaker 1: Aren't you supposed to like kind of supposed to like
Speaker 1: elevate yourself with it so that you're not on the
Speaker 1: ground when it makes impact, I believe so, so like jumping
Speaker 1: when it when it yeah yeah, so you can be
Speaker 1: in the air when it hits because you can survive
Speaker 1: that totally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. But yeah, I didn't. I didn't think that fast.
Speaker 2: But it did fall and it did crash.
Speaker 1: And I did anyone in the other like, is anyone
Speaker 1: in your building anything? And they giving you like a
Speaker 1: couple of ducks off your rent?
Speaker 2: So see the thing is, I'm like, none of us
Speaker 2: would bitch if you gave us less rent, Like if
Speaker 2: you deducted our rent, we honestly wouldn't complain. I'll wait
Speaker 2: twenty minutes to get out of my house, I don't
Speaker 2: care or to the stairs. But as I got off
Speaker 2: the elevator, uh, there was a woman at the front
Speaker 2: desk already who had a baby with her. Oh, the
Speaker 2: same exact thing had happened to her in that elevator.
Speaker 2: So I told there's this one hot door man in
Speaker 2: my building that I call him door daddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like, door Daddy.
Speaker 2: I was just in this elevator and it felt like
Speaker 2: what felt like five floors and the woman with a
Speaker 2: baby was like, I telling him the same thing. And
Speaker 2: I was like, maybe we should turn that elevator off
Speaker 2: right now. And then no one turned that elevator off.
Speaker 2: People were just getting in it, and I'm like, okay, well, dude, America,
Speaker 2: someone has to die before we do anything about it.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, yeah, I mean door do door men have
Speaker 1: turn elevator off privileges.
Speaker 4: They do.
Speaker 2: They do because an instances like that where the elevator
Speaker 2: is being ratic, I'm going to turn that off because otherwise,
Speaker 2: if you're on your floor waiting to go down and
Speaker 2: it comes, you're gonna get on it thinking everything's okay.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, damn, but you girl, I am afraid to die. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't want to die yet, but yeah, not afraid.
Speaker 1: Pretty cool. It's weird that they're walking around thinking about
Speaker 1: that though. It's almost like you're wishing it on. No,
Speaker 1: I don't wish.
Speaker 2: It, but but uh, I'm using it because a lot
Speaker 2: of times, the idea of like we're all going to die,
Speaker 2: it's a fire under my ass. It makes me stop
Speaker 2: sweating the small stuff like it kind of recalibrates.
Speaker 1: Me in a really beautiful way.
Speaker 2: Sure, and so, but then the next step for me
Speaker 2: personally that I was giving myself was to deal with
Speaker 2: the fear of deaths because you know, which I kind
Speaker 2: of had and now it's gone.
Speaker 1: Did you do anything to make this leave? Just over time?
Speaker 1: Just reminding myself that like death.
Speaker 2: Is uh, you go somewhere better, right, because earth is
Speaker 2: pretty It was pretty rough, right, it's pretty rough. But also,
Speaker 2: oh I chip my nail, but that's okay. But don't
Speaker 2: no one killed themselves because then you have to do
Speaker 2: the whole thing over again. And once I learned that,
Speaker 2: I was like, well, there you go, suicide proof for life.
Speaker 1: Hm hmm, interesting, mm hmm. Yeah, ain't gonna get that
Speaker 1: mom again. Yeah no, I mean I would say, well,
Speaker 1: you chose her. I did, but learned the lesson. Yeah
Speaker 1: I'm good.
Speaker 2: Now next this is the thank you next Lord, more
Speaker 2: more lessons.
Speaker 1: Than nothing to do with heart. Yeah no, I would,
Speaker 1: I would say, I mean, I think with death it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's much worse to lose other people than it
Speaker 1: is to lose yourself totally, because that's you. You're a fan,
Speaker 1: you can handle it. Yeah, yeah, all right. If you
Speaker 1: want to send us an email, it's sorry about last
Speaker 1: night's show at gmail dot com. This one says I
Speaker 1: left my ex because of guys we fucked and now
Speaker 1: a British man has moved here for me. Okay, yeah, sick.
Speaker 1: I am a woman who a man has moved his
Speaker 1: whole life to live with me, and I credit this
Speaker 1: podcast for the success story. I mean, yes, for you,
Speaker 1: but also like a lot of people move to America
Speaker 1: from other countries because they think they can like have
Speaker 1: more opportunity. But it's definitely because of our show and
Speaker 1: you're well. I broke up with my emotionally and at
Speaker 1: times physically abusive x six years ago. I had just
Speaker 1: started doing stand up comedy when I found this podcast.
Speaker 1: I binged a bunch of episodes and then found the
Speaker 1: breakup episode. After hearing that episode, I had a little
Speaker 1: intuition that led me to creeping in my ex's desk
Speaker 1: and finding an engagement ring that he had gotten for me.
Speaker 1: I threw up that that's that's like literally the episode
Speaker 1: of Sex and the City. I threw up. Then finally
Speaker 1: broke up with him for good the next day, breaking
Speaker 1: up because it's also good because you're like victory. Now,
Speaker 1: I can let it go. I won. Breaking up with
Speaker 1: him was something I tried to do almost one hundred
Speaker 1: times beforehand. Hearing what both of you went through, especially
Speaker 1: Christina's relationship, ours was very similar in a lot of ways. Finally,
Speaker 1: I don't think Steven was hitting Christina. No, No, he
Speaker 1: probably wanted to do a couple of times, but he didn't. Here.
Speaker 2: Anytime my boyfriends wanted to hit me, I go, yeah,
Speaker 2: I get it. One time he sexually hit me and
Speaker 2: I was like, was that meant for sir? Oh?
Speaker 1: I actually remember that. Yeah, finally gave me the courage
Speaker 1: to do it. You both quite literally saved my life,
Speaker 1: and I am thankful for both of you every single day.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: So, for all the chat about what to do when
Speaker 1: your friend or loved one is in an abusive relationship,
Speaker 1: the advice i'd say is to send your uh is
Speaker 1: to send your podcast. I wouldn't say that especially that.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine like you're getting you're getting the shit
Speaker 1: beat out of you, and someone just sends you a
Speaker 1: podcasten of this breakup of Asode Girl. It's really good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: neither of them are getting hit, but like you could
Speaker 1: probably relate it some for some things. Yeah, I could
Speaker 1: see how it could be, like you could send that
Speaker 1: as some thing in addition to actual help and an
Speaker 1: escape plan. And I love that it helped you so much.
Speaker 1: But please don't just send the breakup episode to people
Speaker 1: getting abuse and just as.
Speaker 2: A reminder again, let's talk about it. Dot com has
Speaker 2: domestic abuse resources. Again, that's let's talk about it dot com.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so this in the podcast, especially that episode,
Speaker 2: to them, maybe it could be an eye opener that
Speaker 2: it's possible to get out of a relationship when someone
Speaker 2: is feeling stuck.
Speaker 1: It definitely was for me. A few years after finally
Speaker 1: leaving my horrible X, I met a British guy. A
Speaker 1: British guy on tindert. My profile said looking for a
Speaker 1: guy to go to emo concerts with. Oh, that's fun.
Speaker 1: I love you. You're asking for sad boys, say I
Speaker 1: love a sad boy. And he asked me to go
Speaker 1: to a concert. I said, no, I had plans. Lol.
Speaker 1: The plans were being a ninth wheel to make homemade
Speaker 1: pizzas with my friends. Okay, I was on Keto, so
Speaker 1: was making myself a Keto pizza. Plus all the couples
Speaker 1: were fighting. It was an awful night. It's so funny.
Speaker 1: Not only did you gotta eat that Keto pizza, you're
Speaker 1: a monk's war. Yeah, it was an awful night. And
Speaker 1: I decided to text that British guy from earlier. I
Speaker 1: sent him a text saying I'll meet up with you
Speaker 1: if you can find a bar that's open till two am.
Speaker 1: I've never sent such a bold text in my life.
Speaker 1: I don't know who I thought. I was laughing my
Speaker 1: ass off. He found one and we met up. I
Speaker 1: was in a hole phase and had no clue what
Speaker 1: the date would turn into. Flashed for four years later.
Speaker 1: The British guy I met that night is now my husband.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, girl. He was living in Boston on
Speaker 1: a trainee ship visa when we met. We ended up
Speaker 1: living together during the pandemic before he had to leave,
Speaker 1: and had the most magical time together. We had concerts
Speaker 1: in the living room, took my dog on adventures, made
Speaker 1: awesome art together, and genuinely had the best time falling
Speaker 1: in love. Wow, girl, you got a good pandemic. I
Speaker 1: know I sound annoying. You don't sound annoying, But he
Speaker 1: was truly the best man I've ever met.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, that's who who your your husband should be. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Everyone's husband should be the best man they've ever met.
Speaker 1: It should be their favorite person. It should be someone who,
Speaker 1: like all these things is too Like, we're not going
Speaker 1: to think he's the best guy. Most likely but that's
Speaker 1: why he's not our husband exactly. You married him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope that for everyone. He's so caring, thoughtful, and kind.
Speaker 1: He plays guitar, is super smart and driven, is fucking
Speaker 1: amazing at sex, and makes me feel hot as hell,
Speaker 1: has a heart of gold, goes to every one of
Speaker 1: my comedy shows that's much a lot, but also doesn't
Speaker 1: want to try comedy, supports my YouTube ventures, as the
Speaker 1: biggest supporter of my career as a software engineer, and
Speaker 1: so much more. I know you've both talked about this,
Speaker 1: but as a female software engineer and comedian, it is
Speaker 1: extremely hard to find a man who isn't intimidated by
Speaker 1: that and can celebrate it. I guess the answer is
Speaker 1: the guy just has to be British. That's definitely not
Speaker 1: the answer. There's American guys. There's at least one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Plus he was raised by a single mom, which I
Speaker 1: think really helps. We have a partnership where we celebrate
Speaker 1: each other's passions and encourage each other to do what
Speaker 1: makes us happy, both inside at an outside of our relationship.
Speaker 1: It's soulmate shit for sure. We did long distance for
Speaker 1: two years, but he finally moved to the us last
Speaker 1: March from London. It was definitely a compromise of ending
Speaker 1: up here, yeah with city, Oh yeah, Boston. I like
Speaker 1: Boston a lot, but not better than London.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, London's amazing. London's one of the best cities. It
Speaker 1: was definitely a compromise of ending up here. But he's
Speaker 1: always been so great about all of it and never
Speaker 1: made me feel shitty about moving from London to Boston. Lol.
Speaker 1: I usually feel super guilty regardless. London is so much
Speaker 1: cooler than here, ye haha.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also like London and Boston if you're pursuing comedy,
Speaker 1: like pretty similar, Like yeah, that's true. Boston's a good
Speaker 1: comedy town. Yeah, and London's good Like you could you
Speaker 1: couldn't you could, like just girl, you could have moved
Speaker 1: to London. Yeah. We've of course had ups and downs
Speaker 1: with long distance and now adjustments of living together full time,
Speaker 1: but it's so damn worth every second of the harder time.
Speaker 1: Thank you for changing and saving my life. If it
Speaker 1: wasn't for that episode, I don't know if I would
Speaker 1: have gotten the courage to leave my awful ex, and
Speaker 1: I really don't know if i'd even be alive to
Speaker 1: write any emails at all, you'd probably just be married
Speaker 1: to that guy and still be getting abused unfortunately, attaching
Speaker 1: pics of us. Also, Christina, you probably don't remember me,
Speaker 1: but I was on Glamour Puss. Yeah, oh ages ago,
Speaker 1: pre pandemic and when I did that show, I was
Speaker 1: fangirling the entire time, but trying to beat show.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I remember you.
Speaker 1: You were very funny.
Speaker 3: Good job.
Speaker 1: Wait, who's is this the new husband or the husband?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the piece of shit do yeah? Because oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell who it was in that because it
Speaker 1: just looked like a man.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, it's very cute. Good for you girl. Why
Speaker 2: that breakup episode is really and you know that was
Speaker 2: during the time I don't even know if it would
Speaker 2: have been that it would have been great still, but like,
Speaker 2: thank god that wasn't on video. Hm.
Speaker 1: I'm glad it's just audio.
Speaker 2: And if there's something special to something being audio only
Speaker 2: like you take it in in a different way.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that that.
Speaker 2: Glad that episode lives on in so many people's decision
Speaker 2: making skills.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, because we like literally did it, like lying
Speaker 1: on our stomachs on your living room floor, which I
Speaker 1: think is like the way an episode like that needs
Speaker 1: to be recorded, but yeah, no one needs to see it.
Speaker 1: There's also like you start acting a little bit when
Speaker 1: you're on camera because you like, I mean, at this time.
Speaker 2: You watch for clips and then you like when you're
Speaker 2: cognizant of all your isms and you're like.
Speaker 1: Set up, strick, don't do this, don't do this. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't even care for shit. Whatever I go, whatever
Speaker 1: I'm doing, I'm doing. I just I just watch my
Speaker 1: OCD tics uh time and time again. And then everyone
Speaker 1: thinks I'm on drugs, and I go, I literally have
Speaker 1: a tick because I have an anxiety. So I don't
Speaker 1: know what to tell everybody. It's not drugs. I wish
Speaker 1: I was on drugs. I wish I was on Say
Speaker 1: if you're lied to yourself, quit you're actually super insecured
Speaker 1: on drugs. I haven't done drugs, and this is such
Speaker 1: a long time. Drugs are great.
Speaker 2: Okay, guys, come see us live. I have a comedy
Speaker 2: album out. My debut comedy album, Good Girl Barbara is available.
Speaker 2: You could listen to it for free on Spotify. You
Speaker 2: could download it on Apple Music.
Speaker 1: You can get it.
Speaker 2: Wherever and uh. I also have a solo podcast, The
Speaker 2: Voices Our Heads, that comes out every Monday. I am
Speaker 2: the sole host, but Mikey Big Dick Don Coscarelli is
Speaker 2: the second mic and we're doing a lot of ghost
Speaker 2: hunting in his basement.
Speaker 1: And don't worry.
Speaker 2: This past Monday, I purchased Holy Water off his Amazon
Speaker 2: and I cured his table.
Speaker 1: I got the ghost out of the table and I'm
Speaker 1: not even a Christian, imagine that.
Speaker 2: And I'm reading this book for the Voices in Our
Speaker 2: Heads of the next several weeks called Supercharged Self Healing
Speaker 2: by this guy RJ. Spina, who I watched a near
Speaker 2: death experience interview with him on YouTube.
Speaker 1: That's how I found him, and he.
Speaker 2: Successfully cured himself from being paralyzed from the chest down
Speaker 2: with a sepsis infection and diabetes and all kind of autoimmune disorders.
Speaker 2: He cured himself off all those diseases and walked again.
Speaker 2: So I'm diving into this book and I have a
Speaker 2: Patreon as you know, I talk about it every week
Speaker 2: where once a week I will do a zoom group
Speaker 2: sherapee and I will lead it. I am also adding
Speaker 2: additional recordings readings of this book of RJ. Spener's book
Speaker 2: because I can't get to the whole thing on my podcast,
Speaker 2: so there's a lot of bonus content on my Patreon.
Speaker 2: You could sign up five bucks a month. You can
Speaker 2: just listen to all the things you can binge. You
Speaker 2: can listen to all of the Sherapee audio I got,
Speaker 2: and pretty soon there'll be bonus readings of Supercharged Self Healing.
Speaker 1: And you don't have to be paralyzed to benefit from
Speaker 1: his book. It's an amazing book.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've been looking for this book for
Speaker 2: a very long time, so make sure you tune in Patreon,
Speaker 2: dot com, slash, Christina Hutchinson.
Speaker 1: And everybody very excited to announce today. I have been
Speaker 1: teasing this tour for a couple of weeks. I finally
Speaker 1: have everything up. All the links are accessible. It is
Speaker 1: the eye of the Tiger Tour. I'm coming to a
Speaker 1: city near you, and if I'm not coming to a
Speaker 1: city near you, up move someplace better. These are the
Speaker 1: people keep shty other city. These are the cities that
Speaker 1: made sense and that I wanted to go to, that
Speaker 1: I didn't mind going to. My new rule is if
Speaker 1: I don't like your city. I'm just not going there
Speaker 1: anymore unless you're offering like an obscene amount of money.
Speaker 1: It's just there's no need to make life unpleasant. I know,
Speaker 1: there's just no need. There's some cities that I truly
Speaker 1: go to and I and the whole time, I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: I'd rather be dead, and that doesn't need to be
Speaker 1: a part of my life anymore.
Speaker 2: Winnipeg, So I actually you'll never go to stop going
Speaker 2: to you would?
Speaker 1: I actually loved Winnipeg too. Yeah, So this is this
Speaker 1: is the listings. Tampa, Florida, April seventeenth, Miami, Florida, April eighteenth, Atlanta, Georgia,
Speaker 1: April nineteenth and twentieth, Columbus, Ohio, April twenty fifth, Raleigh,
Speaker 1: North Carolina, April thirtieth, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, May first, Boston, Massachusetts,
Speaker 1: May second, Portland, Oregon, May fourteenth, San Francisco, California, May fifteenth, Sacramento, California,
Speaker 1: May sixteenth, Seattle, Washington, May seventeenth, Houston, Texas, June twenty seventh, Austin, Texas,
Speaker 1: June twenty eighth and twenty ninth, and Salt Lake City, Utah,
Speaker 1: September twenty sixth. A couple of those have multiple shows,
Speaker 1: most of them. As you see, I'm just staying one
Speaker 1: night in the city because I go. I don't need
Speaker 1: to be there all weekend. Just sell out the one
Speaker 1: big venue on the one night, and then I can
Speaker 1: even move on with my life. It's just it's have
Speaker 1: time to do all the things I want then, and
Speaker 1: it will make me go on tour more often if
Speaker 1: I'm just in and fucking out. So yeah, come on
Speaker 1: a Wednesday or something. This is this is what I
Speaker 1: asked to do, and I'm so happy and excited for this.
Speaker 1: Takes her available at Carinfisher dot com. The link is
Speaker 1: also in the link tree link in my bio on
Speaker 1: Instagram at Philanthropy Gal and Coloue La Branch is the
Speaker 1: feature act for this entire tour. She did inspire me
Speaker 1: to call it the Eye of the Tiger Tour because
Speaker 1: I made the mistake several years ago of telling her
Speaker 1: that I used to put on my hoodie and put
Speaker 1: in my earphones and really amp myself up for comedy
Speaker 1: shows by listening to Eye of the Tiger by Survivor,
Speaker 1: and she has not let me live at down since.
Speaker 1: So I did surprise her today. I wouldn't tell her
Speaker 1: what the tour was, and I surprised her today with
Speaker 1: it and she did. She texted me she was like,
Speaker 1: she's like, I am loling at work, so so excited.
Speaker 1: We did kind of the last test to run of
Speaker 1: the show in Washington, d C. This past weekend and
Speaker 1: it was so so fun. We had a great time.
Speaker 1: And also I want to shout out the host. Her
Speaker 1: name is Mattie, but I forgot her last name. Let
Speaker 1: me see because she was it's so sweet. A lot
Speaker 1: of cities there's like a comedian who asked to host
Speaker 1: the weekend of shows but like doesn't let on. Usually
Speaker 1: like tells the feature that like they're a big fan
Speaker 1: of guys we fucked or me or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: and like asked to host the weekend And so shout
Speaker 1: out to matt Maddie Brannan. Her handle is Maddie the Bee,
Speaker 1: just like the letter B. She actually has a really
Speaker 1: cool instagram if you live in the DC area. She
Speaker 1: goes to estate sales every weekend and she kind of
Speaker 1: goes through them. She like knows so much about I
Speaker 1: love someone who knows a lot about a world that
Speaker 1: I don't know. About So she goes through the list
Speaker 1: the state sales for the weekend, tells you what's going
Speaker 1: to be out, which ones, the address the hours had,
Speaker 1: you know, because she said there's a lot of gatekeeping
Speaker 1: in estate sales and I was like, so dramatic. I
Speaker 1: love it, But yeah, you can go and check that
Speaker 1: out and support her if you're in the Washington, DC area.
Speaker 1: What a fun weekend. Thank you to everyone who came.
Speaker 1: And of course Without a Country comes out every Wednesday.
Speaker 1: So many wackles came this weekend. I feel like that
Speaker 1: it's so weird because this show has been through so
Speaker 1: many iterations with Joe de Rosa and Shane Smith and
Speaker 1: now me doing it solo, and I feel like more
Speaker 1: people are listening than ever before. And I was on
Speaker 1: c SPAN this weekend, which was ridiculous, so fun. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Leslie for making that happen. But yeah, if
Speaker 1: you want to learn, you know again more about the
Speaker 1: presidential election really heating up. It's pretty much going to
Speaker 1: be another Biden Trump election, so you're gonna want to
Speaker 1: pay attention, you know, all right, that is that you
Speaker 1: said you had?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I had a DM from a female listener
Speaker 2: who heard me discussed on the most recent bonus episode
Speaker 2: of Guys We Fucked about being in a partnership where
Speaker 2: one person me for the nature of this discussion, was
Speaker 2: had a higher sex drive than the other partner and
Speaker 2: how to deal with that and what's to do and
Speaker 2: how to go to about it, and how sometimes talking
Speaker 2: about it is actually the least likely option for a
Speaker 2: positive outcome that you want. And so this woman emailed
Speaker 2: me or DMed me, and I asked her if I
Speaker 2: could share this, and she said yes, please, and it
Speaker 2: is an example of a man acting just beautifully. And
Speaker 2: I was like, well, God, damn, let's let's share that.
Speaker 2: Just heard the most recent luminary I've had your experience.
Speaker 2: But the other way around, it's a real pattern for me.
Speaker 2: I'm super sexual for the first two years and then
Speaker 2: set Alene lose all sexual attraction for my boyfriend and
Speaker 2: I usually end up cheating and ending the relationship. To
Speaker 2: be frank, a lot of my past boyfriends have been awful,
Speaker 2: so I'd lost much respect for them by year two,
Speaker 2: so it sort of makes sense. However, my current partner
Speaker 2: is such a good man. I have so much respect
Speaker 2: for him. We are a unit, a really strong family.
Speaker 2: We have children, a dog, and a house together. Our
Speaker 2: sex life was amazing for about three years, and I
Speaker 2: thought I'd escaped my old pattern, but a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago I did lose all sexual attraction for him.
Speaker 1: It was really tough. I didn't even like his smell anymore,
Speaker 1: which usually been there.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, ah, that's the ick. Can you come
Speaker 2: back from the ick? I could see objectively he was
Speaker 2: really hot. I just couldn't connect with it. It got
Speaker 2: me so down. It got me down so much because
Speaker 2: I still fancied other men. I got so in my
Speaker 2: head about it, forced myself to have some really awkward
Speaker 2: sex with him.
Speaker 1: Felt so guilty.
Speaker 2: Could see he didn't know what was going on, but
Speaker 2: he has the strongest self esteem and he's so calm
Speaker 2: and patient. He's masculine as well, so not into big
Speaker 2: emotional talks. So it was actually me that brought it
Speaker 2: up that I knew we weren't having enough sex, and
Speaker 2: how sad I was that we'd lost that amazing sexual
Speaker 2: attraction we used to have. It Honestly felt like I
Speaker 2: was grieving a loss. Briefly considered an open relationship, but
Speaker 2: I could see that wasn't viable and would blow up
Speaker 2: our other amazing strong relationship.
Speaker 1: His response when I brought it up was so incredible.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't take things personally, so it came from
Speaker 1: a place of such strength and love. He said, I
Speaker 1: know you don't want to have sex with me right now.
Speaker 1: It's fine. I can wait when it comes back.
Speaker 2: It comes back, and I know it will after and
Speaker 2: left it at that, which was kind of my theory.
Speaker 2: He never made me feel guilty, never tried to initiate
Speaker 2: or push it. Instead, he started doing more to help
Speaker 2: me out with the kids and work. He made sure
Speaker 2: I always had time to myself. But he wasn't a
Speaker 2: doormat either. He was looking after himself as well, going
Speaker 2: out with his friends to the gym, making big progress
Speaker 2: at work. I think because he was so secure with
Speaker 2: himself and in our relationship, and he saw our best
Speaker 2: potential and believed in it, it slowly helped me relax,
Speaker 2: and once I relaxed, I slowly started to see him
Speaker 2: in a sexual way. To begin with, it was like
Speaker 2: when the sun pierces through on a cloudy day. I'd
Speaker 2: be looking at him across the room and suddenly have
Speaker 2: this urge to fuck him, but it took a year
Speaker 2: to properly come back. It ebbed and flow that year,
Speaker 2: but it did come back, and we've had sex four
Speaker 2: times the last three days, and I initiated it every time.
Speaker 2: We're five years into a relationship with young kids and
Speaker 2: busy lives. I think we're doing pretty good. Just wanted
Speaker 2: to send you a hopeful message and some love. Also,
Speaker 2: Mike talking rubbish. My partner still very much wants to
Speaker 2: fuck me. I've always felt secure in the knowledge that
Speaker 2: he finds me extremely attractive unless he's the best actor
Speaker 2: in the world.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, god, damn, lady, I think you
Speaker 1: picked a great man. Yeah, like that guy sounds great.
Speaker 1: And I also love the part where, especially where he
Speaker 1: was just like, hell, you know that's that's such a
Speaker 1: common love language, especially in heterosexual relationships, for women to
Speaker 1: like help us more. Yeah, Oh, I love being helped.
Speaker 1: I love or people help me. And now I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about little like classically feminine like help me like oh,
Speaker 1: protect me against this guy ken, No, that's me or
Speaker 1: something I mean like no, like literally fucking wash a dish,
Speaker 1: clean o room, walk my dog, dude, that's help. That's
Speaker 1: real help make my like, make me, you know, create
Speaker 1: time to fuck. Yeah yeah yeah, And it.
Speaker 2: Kind of goes along with my theory of like I
Speaker 2: knew when I talked about on the bonus episode, I'm like,
Speaker 2: this feeling that I have is coming from a deeply
Speaker 2: insecure place, which is not a place to have a conversation.
Speaker 2: It's just not gonna go well because I'm not It's
Speaker 2: not the level that I want to be at that
Speaker 2: I want to approach this because it means too much
Speaker 2: to me. So approaching it from like all of my
Speaker 2: insecurities is asking for asking for a disaster. So I
Speaker 2: really I loved that a man reacted in this way,
Speaker 2: and so kudos to you, lady.
Speaker 1: Nice shop. Yeah, nice shop. Someone else who's doing good work,
Speaker 1: a man who's our guest. Yes he has a stand
Speaker 1: up comedian and his new special dance Fatty Dance, comes
Speaker 1: out on YouTube on March twelfth. Please welcome to the show,
Speaker 1: Dan Saint Germain to you, how you fit.
Speaker 3: I'm great first time here. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: I don't know why I screamed that just now, but
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you've never been on the show before. I
Speaker 1: really thought he had me we would ask you a
Speaker 1: lot sooner. We just thought you had been We've.
Speaker 3: Done a lot of podcasts together.
Speaker 1: Okay, never this one. I really try to do as
Speaker 1: few podcasts as possible. But yeah, back in the day
Speaker 1: mine at times, yeah, I've done, I've done, I've been
Speaker 1: one in the past, but I've got a lot better.
Speaker 1: Just absolutely after COVID, I just was like, I did
Speaker 1: Who's ever podcast during COVID because it didn't matter, And
Speaker 1: then after that I was like, yeah, not saying no
Speaker 1: to pretty much everyone. Now, I love saying no to podcasts.
Speaker 1: My favorite thing. Do you say no, Dan?
Speaker 3: I'm not in a position where I can say no
Speaker 3: to anything, not really either already has a booth. I'll
Speaker 3: go do it right now. At this point, I got
Speaker 3: to push the special, So whatever, guys. If it's like
Speaker 3: if somebody like hits me up and it's like they
Speaker 3: have thirty followers, oh I'm sorry and they have like
Speaker 3: thirty followers and they're like, hey, I'm new to stand up,
Speaker 3: then I try to find ways to get out of it.
Speaker 3: But even if they're really nice, I'll do it, you know.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't want to like you ate the
Speaker 3: fucking fore fans I have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you're about to get one more probably.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, welcome guys, dancing.
Speaker 1: Guys, and I like that. Remember, I'm going to give
Speaker 1: you a throwback memory. I think he does. I think
Speaker 1: he mentioned it threatening you said, I hope your boyfriend
Speaker 1: dies in a car accident. It's very funny. I was
Speaker 1: offended at the time because I loved him, But that's hilarious.
Speaker 3: But by the way, just to anyone who's listening, I
Speaker 3: was singled in many years ago. I'm married now, But
Speaker 3: yes I did do that. I uh really threw it.
Speaker 3: I threw it out there by throwing your boyfriend in
Speaker 3: front of a bush.
Speaker 1: That's so funny. Did you really feel that in your heart?
Speaker 1: Like if if the next day that he she had
Speaker 1: texted and been like, oh my god, infested his death, like,
Speaker 1: would you felt guilty? Would fell guilty like a powerful way?
Speaker 3: For sure? Well, I don't think if if that happens,
Speaker 3: you would been like, fuck you, you've killed my boyfriend. So
Speaker 3: I don't think that I would have been. If she
Speaker 3: was like, hey, I killed my boy then maybe that
Speaker 3: would be a different situation. But now at the time,
Speaker 3: I think at the time the next day, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 3: what drunken dumb thing that I do? And usually I
Speaker 3: had a list and I was like, okay, so the
Speaker 3: text apology to Christina is one thirty five today and
Speaker 3: everyone at everyone at Buffalo Wild Wings is one fifty
Speaker 3: five on me, So make sure that I put one
Speaker 3: in after another.
Speaker 1: Did you actually physically write a list of things that
Speaker 1: you had to make amends for? I have this, yeah, exactly, sure, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I had when I was most of them. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think so. But it's like one of those things
Speaker 3: where it's like living, Like I'm just back from rehab again,
Speaker 3: so it's like, shit, there's like a new list every time,
Speaker 3: you know, right.
Speaker 2: The making the men's thing is interesting, like a what
Speaker 2: does AA say that it's the benefit of that I
Speaker 2: can understand logically.
Speaker 3: Clear the wreckage of your past, And it's for it's
Speaker 3: most it should be more for them than you, that's
Speaker 3: the thing. So it's like, if that's a situation where
Speaker 3: you shouldn't reach out because they don't want you to reach.
Speaker 1: Out, that reach out yeah right right right, So but.
Speaker 3: It's like one of those things where it's supposed to
Speaker 3: be like a living thing, anyway where it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: at the end of your day, if you're like I
Speaker 3: was shitty to this person, I should like text this
Speaker 3: person and say, hey, I'm sorry that I was shitty
Speaker 3: to you. But I'm not, like I still go to meetings,
Speaker 3: but I'm not like an AA guy either, So it's
Speaker 3: like it's it's one of those things. But yeah, it's
Speaker 3: just kind of like keeping yourself I guess accountable, right,
Speaker 3: But I think you can just do that as a
Speaker 3: normal person. Like if you don't apologize as a normal person,
Speaker 3: you're like, it's kind of shitty. You're kind of like
Speaker 3: a psychopath a.
Speaker 2: Psychopath, or like you're just ashamed of of how you
Speaker 2: behaved and you to address it.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: There's some people, like like one person in particular, I
Speaker 2: can think of that. I'm like, I owe that guy
Speaker 2: of apology, but I have not apologized because I'm a
Speaker 2: little too embarrassed.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I look over and your producers like a
Speaker 3: black guy on his head.
Speaker 1: He's like, sorry, Eric, what what have you had?
Speaker 3: A rock bottom I've had Unfortunately, I've had a few.
Speaker 1: Let's take a time.
Speaker 3: I should, I should, I should could have a whole
Speaker 3: book of rock bottoms this pastime. It was that I, uh,
Speaker 3: I did the bonfire and I was I had like
Speaker 3: had nine drinks before podcasts, Yeah, it's nine, and I
Speaker 3: thought that that was I was like, oh, I've only
Speaker 3: had nine drinks. I'm fine, only only nine or time
Speaker 3: was it? It's like or six six pms something like that.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm going to get away with it.
Speaker 3: And then my writing partner, comedy partner Dan Sutter, texts
Speaker 3: me immediately when I'm done and goes, were you just
Speaker 3: drunk on the bonfire? Like immediately I knew and I
Speaker 3: was like shit, yeah. So there was that amongst a
Speaker 3: couple other things. But it was like, you know, not
Speaker 3: to get have well, yeah, whatever, I get happy. I
Speaker 3: my mom died a little bit of a year ago
Speaker 3: and we found you know, it's okay, we're kind of
Speaker 3: still in the middle of it or deal wise and ship. Yeah,
Speaker 3: found out some facts about the death that day and
Speaker 3: I hadn't been drinking and that kind of like precipitated
Speaker 3: me to like a week long, oh shit binge. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it was kind of heavy. I'm not going to say
Speaker 3: that was an excuse, but that is why it happened, right, And.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, a lot of times when sobriety is hanging
Speaker 2: on by a thread, it takes a like the stressful
Speaker 2: event is the well, if I'm really sober, then I
Speaker 2: won't lean into this drug or whatever the alcohol again.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's too easy to slip for sure.
Speaker 3: And I was like smoking pod constantly for like the
Speaker 3: last five years. So it's like that was which I
Speaker 3: don't I don't consider that the same as drinking, but.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's a mind altering substance.
Speaker 3: It's a mind altering substance, and it's definitely it's the
Speaker 3: same in the sense that like, I don't want to
Speaker 3: feel something today totally, so let me let me put
Speaker 3: this thing on so I don't have to deal with that.
Speaker 1: No stoner like calls somebody and says you're a fucking
Speaker 1: piece of shit. You know.
Speaker 2: Stoner behavior is more docile for sure. Like I there
Speaker 2: was a year that I had screen crying and I
Speaker 2: smoked wheat a lot during the day, which I don't
Speaker 2: ever do because I was like I had rage.
Speaker 1: Wheat is I I found really good for rage?
Speaker 3: Yeah, But then the problem is is that you don't
Speaker 3: it depends on who you are. Like for me, it
Speaker 3: was just like you're just constantly like putting that away.
Speaker 3: So I was just right.
Speaker 1: Because then you're not learning how to get through the rage,
Speaker 1: You're just learning how to suppress the rage, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And it was the same thing with benzos too,
Speaker 3: because I was a tick to those for a while.
Speaker 3: So it was like like like xanax or quantapin yeah, Valium, yeah,
Speaker 3: so anti anxiety drugs. So it's like more of those.
Speaker 3: I don't want to just feel whatever I'm feeling, let
Speaker 3: me turn on an air conditioner in my body. That
Speaker 3: just cools everything totally down. But wheat is the one.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've only been sober this time, like four
Speaker 3: and a half months. Yeah, but that's the one that
Speaker 3: I do. That's quite a bit.
Speaker 1: So you're not you're completely I don't know, I'm.
Speaker 3: Not doing anything but a lot of transfats, that's right.
Speaker 3: Else I'm not doing.
Speaker 1: How long were you sober from alcohol this last time
Speaker 1: when you relapsed?
Speaker 3: Well, the problem is my mom died over a year ago.
Speaker 3: I was on and off. I'd have three weeks and
Speaker 3: then go back off, and then three weeks and then
Speaker 3: go back off. So I wasn't like I would. It
Speaker 3: was probably like two months, like September was what the
Speaker 3: last time I drank, and then like two months later,
Speaker 3: so I had about two months.
Speaker 1: Wasn't there a little time? Wasn't there a period of
Speaker 1: time when there was like years in there or.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had I've had times where I've had three years,
Speaker 3: three years twice, right, that's great. So like I had
Speaker 3: three years when I was in New York, and then
Speaker 3: I had three years when I was in La so
Speaker 3: and things definitely got better. So it's you know, the
Speaker 3: only thing that you deal with is that you get bored,
Speaker 3: especially with that weed.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you get super bored.
Speaker 2: My my partner is a very high functioning alcoholic and
Speaker 2: like he we've talked about this on the show before.
Speaker 2: Alcohol doesn't affect me this way, but affects him this
Speaker 2: way drinking or no. No, So he's been he's been
Speaker 2: ninety a couple of months.
Speaker 1: Uh, completely sober and uh.
Speaker 2: But like when he drinks, it's like coffee to him,
Speaker 2: like it makes him energize and more like he's all
Speaker 2: already very social. I'm like, damn, if Booze affected me
Speaker 2: like that, I probably would have an alcohol problem because
Speaker 2: it just makes me want to go to bed. But
Speaker 2: he was saying to me, He's like, I just I'm bored,
Speaker 2: Like I'm bored, And so I also was going to say,
Speaker 2: I was watching a lot of Oprah videos on YouTube
Speaker 2: the other day and one of the things she said was, actually, no,
Speaker 2: there's this book called What Happened to You? Those really
Speaker 2: profound that she co wrote with a psychologist, and she said,
Speaker 2: conquering an addiction is some of the most highest spiritual
Speaker 2: work anybody will ever.
Speaker 1: Do in their lifetime.
Speaker 2: And I don't think she's I don't think Oprah's had
Speaker 2: an addiction maybe with food, yeah, deduction for sure.
Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, that's really interesting.
Speaker 2: And so I'm curious, like your state now, you know,
Speaker 2: you're four months sober, all of the things like how
Speaker 2: what's the traffic like.
Speaker 1: In your head?
Speaker 3: I don't want to drink right now. I don't want
Speaker 3: to do any hard drugs right now. I do want
Speaker 3: to smoke with you right now. And I think it's
Speaker 3: because as there are things that I don't want to
Speaker 3: be feeling right now. And I am back in therapy,
Speaker 3: so that's good. And I do have a psychiatrist. We're
Speaker 3: really getting into it on this podcast. But I warned you,
Speaker 3: I don't know me, but yeah, so I feel like
Speaker 3: that sometimes I just want to fucking break, you know,
Speaker 3: Like I don't want to like it's not that I
Speaker 3: want to vent like or I want to like be
Speaker 3: like you know, like like spend three days in a
Speaker 3: motel somewhere where I blow my face off and I,
Speaker 3: you know, scream at the moon. I don't want that,
Speaker 3: but I do want like I do miss smoking weed,
Speaker 3: playing two active video games, you know, like not like
Speaker 3: just having my dog like a numbing thing. I do
Speaker 3: miss that spiritually, you know, I can't. I can't. My
Speaker 3: wife's not drinking, she's not smoking pot right now, she's
Speaker 3: not doing anything in solidarity, which at times I wish
Speaker 3: she wasn't. I was like, you sure you don't want
Speaker 3: to really?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Look at me, and she's like, no, I'm not. Do
Speaker 3: you want to.
Speaker 1: Being a bitch or no it's not being a good.
Speaker 4: Read? No?
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I sometimes want to smoke weed. So I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: if she has a glass of wine, then you have
Speaker 3: a Now you're gonna have a cookie. Right, So that's
Speaker 3: the thing, uh for me and It's always been substances.
Speaker 3: You know. I know people who like, you know, they
Speaker 3: want to like their thing is they want to gamble
Speaker 3: or they want to act out in a relationship and cheat.
Speaker 3: And for me it's always been I want to, like,
Speaker 3: you know, get up. I just don't want to like
Speaker 3: deal with with life on life's terms.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to ask you, like Gabor mate
Speaker 2: has some fast I don't even.
Speaker 3: Know gazoom Tide. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: That he's a great author. He's an incredible psychologist, sir psychiatrists.
Speaker 2: Gabor Mattee. Yeah, he wrote a book about addiction, and
Speaker 2: he says, like we always look at addicts like like
Speaker 2: they're this part of this low level of society, which
Speaker 2: is absolutely the opposite of true.
Speaker 1: Like some of the greatest artists of our times.
Speaker 2: We're at like you know, and we we the way
Speaker 2: we approach a diction is so backwards because we always say, like,
Speaker 2: what you're doing is wrong, your behavior is wrong, what's
Speaker 2: wrong with you? You know, And it's like, well, no,
Speaker 2: what's right about your addiction?
Speaker 1: Meaning what do these drugs give you that you don't
Speaker 1: have otherwise?
Speaker 2: That is something that you want, that's something good good
Speaker 2: for you in quotes, and it's so it seems like
Speaker 2: the numbing is the thing.
Speaker 3: I think that that's the case. Yet I think it's
Speaker 3: just you know, like I'm a very work first person,
Speaker 3: and if I'm not working, I'm like what am I doing?
Speaker 3: So I always associate like being able to like get
Speaker 3: drunk or smoke a joint as like, oh, this is
Speaker 3: like my recreational time, Like I don't have, Like I
Speaker 3: don't have the same like I don't have I'm not
Speaker 3: part of like a pickleball you get. That's actually, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't sing karaoke. Maybe I should, but those are
Speaker 3: the things I probably should be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually like doing Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean for sure, that's the thing. I mean, I love
Speaker 3: my dogs, I love hanging out my wife, and those
Speaker 3: are like and I mean, as we know, because we
Speaker 3: all do a lot of shows here, it's like when
Speaker 3: you have a night off, a lot of the times
Speaker 3: you just don't want to do anything.
Speaker 1: I just kind of want to like just veg out.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so I think, like I think trying to
Speaker 3: add new stuff to the routine should be where I'm
Speaker 3: going in the next like the next couple of weeks,
Speaker 3: I'm so busy anyway, it doesn't really matter. But like,
Speaker 3: eventually when I have downtime, gets to do that kind
Speaker 3: of thing. For sure.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you what feelings are you running from?
Speaker 2: Do you know, as somebody who's struggling the addiction and
Speaker 2: ran from very specific feelings, I.
Speaker 3: Never think I'm enough, for sure. I think that almost
Speaker 3: the one thing that I think, I think is common
Speaker 3: with almost anyone who's had a drug and alcohol problem
Speaker 3: is you feel like the other, you feel different from
Speaker 3: everybody else. I had that from when I was a
Speaker 3: kid and I was getting picked on to like being
Speaker 3: someone who has friends and a wife and you know,
Speaker 3: like so it's like what you know, because it was
Speaker 3: interesting because it was or when I was like lonely,
Speaker 3: I'm was like, oh, I'm married to a wonderful person.
Speaker 3: Now I have three dogs, I have great friends, you know,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, and I still have that other feeling.
Speaker 3: I still have that like I feel like I'm cut
Speaker 3: off from like something's different about me, something's wrong about me.
Speaker 1: That's usually where all addiction stems from.
Speaker 3: I think. So yeah, I think that's the thing that
Speaker 3: like like I'm not enough. So those are the things
Speaker 3: and and and and I and I and my mom
Speaker 3: suffered from the disease, so I think that I had Also,
Speaker 3: you know, there's some alan on ship in there, and
Speaker 3: you know, my whole family my grandpa died from my
Speaker 3: mom died from it. So it's like I have living
Speaker 3: examples of you know, what's what's in store for me?
Speaker 3: So I definitely think that, like, yeah, there's like an
Speaker 3: element of feeling, like, you know, the alien as I
Speaker 3: look at alien stickers on your I.
Speaker 1: Am an alien.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're not comfortable, but I'm curious what you
Speaker 2: found out about your mom after that.
Speaker 3: Would be so funny. How big are your balls? Like
Speaker 3: guess I got told him. I was like, what are
Speaker 3: we doing? How big is your buttle? My mom? I
Speaker 3: can't go specifically into this, and I didn't. I would
Speaker 3: have told her that beforehand, but she had. She was
Speaker 3: definitely suffering. This is isn't involved. Her death is different,
Speaker 3: but she was suffering from elements of alcoholic dementia. We
Speaker 3: did have to put her in as sister living facility
Speaker 3: when she was in her sixties, way earlier than she
Speaker 3: should have been. Some of that was due to the
Speaker 3: marriage with my dad and her ending and there was
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, I don't think my mom
Speaker 3: could you know, again, she couldn't handle life on life's terms.
Speaker 3: And you know, this was you know, she kind of
Speaker 3: had a bunch of bad things happen in a row,
Speaker 3: and and you know, she was hurt. So she hurt
Speaker 3: herself and she certainly hurt other people in her family.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that those things, you know, like
Speaker 3: and then she always just medicated through alcohol, like my dad.
Speaker 3: You know, my dad drinks too much at times, but she,
Speaker 3: you know, like you know, like my my randpa died
Speaker 3: with a bottle in his hands. My grandma had alcohol problems,
Speaker 3: and you know, that whole side of the family. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of addiction, not even you know, yeah, not
Speaker 3: even speaking that I'm people, I'm not even covering that
Speaker 3: I'm not as close to. So like, for whatever, for
Speaker 3: whatever reason, that has been the salve, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been a lot of arguments about like his
Speaker 2: addiction genetic and like the guy Gabor that I was
Speaker 2: mentioning earlier, He's like, I don't really think it is,
Speaker 2: but I think it's more powerful to witness your parent
Speaker 2: handle something with a drug, for example, or handle something
Speaker 2: with a temper or handle something like I got things
Speaker 2: from my father I would presume from my father, but
Speaker 2: I'm not genetically related to him. So I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: so this is nurture. Like nurture is huge, right, kids
Speaker 2: are so sense.
Speaker 3: Do you think that you like, like there's certain ways
Speaker 3: that certain ways that your dad deals with stuff that
Speaker 3: you deal with them the same.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Temper, Yeah, a lot of rage yeah, yeah, not and
Speaker 2: not not like being a little too scared of feelings.
Speaker 2: It sounds like your wife from the thing the few
Speaker 2: things that you've mentioned is handling this like like a champ.
Speaker 3: She's been great. Yeah. So I'm very I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: very lucky. I walked out in love, I married well.
Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I was kind of gonna ask like
Speaker 1: how many, Like how how long have you been married
Speaker 1: to her?
Speaker 3: We've been we'll be five years in October. But we
Speaker 3: were together for like we'll were together for like six years.
Speaker 3: We dated like seven years ago, but it was like
Speaker 3: casual and then we got you know, together, like a
Speaker 3: year after that.
Speaker 1: Were you sober when you met her like what I
Speaker 1: was when I met her? And then the first time
Speaker 1: that you relapsed with her because I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I did not realize whether we were we were broken up.
Speaker 3: We're kind of like dating. So I was that No,
Speaker 3: that was in LA. I had gone out and part
Speaker 3: of partially as I was prescribed anxiety medication. I'm not
Speaker 3: going to just blame it on that I made a
Speaker 3: decision to go out, but I think that that kind
Speaker 3: of led to it in some ways. And she's dealt
Speaker 3: with you know, she's you know, and it is kind
Speaker 3: of the reason I'm also staying you know, sober at
Speaker 3: this point is that she's like, you know, had had
Speaker 3: to deal with some of it, and I.
Speaker 4: Can't as a partner.
Speaker 3: Yeahs a partner. It's a lot of bullshit.
Speaker 1: Partner can't be unaffected by another.
Speaker 3: Of course not. And she's you know, at times I
Speaker 3: think she's like, you know, that's her story to tell,
Speaker 3: but she's like had you know, she's probably partied too
Speaker 3: much at times in her life. I wouldn't put her
Speaker 3: in the same category as me and me at all,
Speaker 3: but she's you know, flourishing without it right now. And yeah,
Speaker 3: so I think that her dealing with that that was
Speaker 3: that was definitely she likes me a lot better when
Speaker 3: I'm not on anything for sure?
Speaker 2: Is that motivation for you to yeah, because sometimes it's
Speaker 2: like that's nice to use that type of motivation. When
Speaker 2: your partner sees the best in you, you're like, well,
Speaker 2: I can't see the best of me right now, but
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take your word for it because you married me.
Speaker 3: Yep. I think that there's definitely there's definitely an element
Speaker 3: of I can't you know, I have a fan now,
Speaker 3: I don't have kids, but I have a wife and dogs,
Speaker 3: and I can't you know, I can't just do the
Speaker 3: shit that I did in my twenties anymore, you know.
Speaker 1: A men's sister.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Unfortunately, sometimes I want to I want to know,
Speaker 3: I want to like not be you know, accountable to anybody.
Speaker 3: And that's not in the sense of like I want
Speaker 3: to be like, oh, I want to go to Vegas
Speaker 3: and be single, Like it's I just want to like
Speaker 3: freaking go to a Best Western for a week and
Speaker 3: nobody interrupted pizza man or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be nice.
Speaker 2: I wonder if there's like a correlation between kids who
Speaker 2: grew up with parents where the parents didn't take responsibility
Speaker 2: for themselves, meaning like they kind of fell into like
Speaker 2: the addiction was swallowed by it or had mental illness
Speaker 2: that they didn't keep in check, or whatever the fuck
Speaker 2: it is, and it's like the kid never got to
Speaker 2: be a kid. So I feel like sometimes when the
Speaker 2: kid that kind of kid grows up, they're like, somebody else,
Speaker 2: hold it together for once.
Speaker 1: Let me be the fucking mess for once.
Speaker 2: Right, there's kind of like I used to feel like that,
Speaker 2: and I would get mad, like have conversations about, like Christina,
Speaker 2: maybe you should chill on the substances.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, because it's like, give me a rest to.
Speaker 2: Fortunately, I was very happy to learn I do not
Speaker 2: like cocaine. That was the one drug. That's the only
Speaker 2: drug I don't like. Yeah, but because I know and everything,
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's there's plenty of other drugs that I love.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I wonder if too, if it's part of that.
Speaker 2: It's like a child that carries a lot of emotional
Speaker 2: weight prematurely just wants to fucking relax and them out
Speaker 2: more so than the average bear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I think so. I think like
Speaker 3: the problem is with high school is that whenever I
Speaker 3: would do it, I was never having like six drinks.
Speaker 3: It was always like let me get fucking bombed, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean like and then I would I would have
Speaker 3: a disaster. I would put myself in harms way.
Speaker 1: Or would you just say drinks like a light night.
Speaker 3: That would always say if I could stop at eight,
Speaker 3: I would still be drinking.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like the most amount man can just
Speaker 1: drink differently, like what do you also? What was your
Speaker 1: drink of choice?
Speaker 3: Well, the last time around was like fooling myself. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I can't touch whiskey, so what I'll drink is beer
Speaker 3: and rum, you know, and I would have like sixteen
Speaker 3: girly drinks. But it's like I'm drinking them like like
Speaker 3: I'm something and I'm like I'm having a bahama made
Speaker 3: like a morning a dead partner or something like that.
Speaker 1: Well that's very interesting because I there are a couple
Speaker 1: of people I know who drink beer and are alcoholics
Speaker 1: and think because their drink of choice is beer that
Speaker 1: they're not alcoholics. And it is hard to watch. It's
Speaker 1: hard to watch the amount of denial that you have
Speaker 1: to be living in. I don't like, what do you
Speaker 1: started the room wor that beer is not you can't
Speaker 1: be an alcoholic on beer beer companies.
Speaker 3: Beer company is dead, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: If you're saying alcohol though, you.
Speaker 3: Like, if you've seen beer commercials, no one looks like
Speaker 3: they drink beer. Who's in a beer commercial?
Speaker 1: Like, it's all like, yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm like a digit, like what are you doing here?
Speaker 1: That's why I like that tired yell us because he
Speaker 1: looks like she looks like drink the best way.
Speaker 3: I was like, amazing, Yeah for sure. Like but a
Speaker 3: lot of the times you'll watch him and you'll be like,
Speaker 3: this is like the weekend or something right right, right right,
Speaker 3: So yeah, I I don't know, I wish I think
Speaker 3: that that, especially the I pas now because I pas,
Speaker 3: you can get like I remember I was drinking a
Speaker 3: beer that was like thirteen percent of alcohol, and I
Speaker 3: was like, what's the difference between this.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's delirium. Having an ipa is like having
Speaker 1: a fucking sandwich? Yeah, for sure lye bread. Yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is this? I can't I can't even drink enough
Speaker 1: beer to get drunk on it because if my stomach
Speaker 1: gets full first. So I'm always kind of like like
Speaker 1: when someone can drink you know, ten eleven beers, I'm
Speaker 1: more impressed. Yeah, like, how did that? How did you
Speaker 1: even get that in there?
Speaker 3: Especially? Yeah, I can do that with like a light
Speaker 3: beer like Keystone light or Cores light or butt light.
Speaker 3: But you know, if I'm having you know, like if
Speaker 3: I'm having an I p A, it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: I feel you know, six drinks in or something.
Speaker 1: I'm on a diet, you.
Speaker 3: Know, it adds and you know, like I'm already overweight,
Speaker 3: so it's like I'll add I'll get like scary TLC fat,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. TLC Special fat. You know,
Speaker 3: we're you know, the fire departments, like breaking a door
Speaker 3: down for me to leave.
Speaker 1: So you get a show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1: I finally made it on TV.
Speaker 3: Made it up my I didn't get the tonight show guys,
Speaker 3: but I am on seven hundred pounds prep.
Speaker 1: Was it your decision to go to rehab or was it.
Speaker 3: This time around? It was okay, And then the last
Speaker 3: time in patients. This was like my fifth time going,
Speaker 3: so it depends like a lot of the other times
Speaker 3: were out patients, and then the last time it was
Speaker 3: like to like try to get a girl back and
Speaker 3: then like as soon as I got back, she was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm still not going to go out with you. And
Speaker 3: I was like, which, by the way, she was right,
Speaker 3: you know, but like that was my reasoning. And this
Speaker 3: time it was more like, all right, man, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be you know, forty, and like, you know, like I don't.
Speaker 3: I can't, like I can't like put it into the
Speaker 3: next gear in comedy at fifty, do you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? So I have like only I have this window.
Speaker 3: I mean forty and may. I'm thirty nine now, so
Speaker 3: I have like this window, you know. So I'm like,
Speaker 3: I really have to, you know, kind of like get
Speaker 3: my shit together now instead of like be worrying about
Speaker 3: this when I'm fifty five years old or something.
Speaker 1: What's in patient therapy like rehab brother.
Speaker 3: In patient rehabits you're there, you're staying there, and outpatient
Speaker 3: is you know, you can be doing it from home.
Speaker 1: As all day therapy.
Speaker 3: It's all day. It's all day therapy, therapy, A lot
Speaker 3: of group therapy. Then there's also like some activities, fun,
Speaker 3: what kind of art. I did build a snowman this
Speaker 3: last time. That's on our fridge still, I said, rehab snowman. Wow.
Speaker 1: A lot of group activity is like if I was
Speaker 1: a suffering from alcoholism, that would make me want to
Speaker 1: drink more.
Speaker 3: There are some point and yeah, we're the rehab they had.
Speaker 3: We had like we had like sober karaoke and I
Speaker 3: like did a bit about where I'm like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't want to like do the things that I was
Speaker 3: embarrassed to do drunk.
Speaker 1: You know that's like actually sounds like torture, like.
Speaker 3: Sober fuck a three. You know, you're like, I know
Speaker 3: there's there's something they want to do drunk. I don't
Speaker 3: need to visit that sober thanks.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they should take it like, you know, they should
Speaker 2: like rehabs, you should like interact with animals and stuff
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: Like one therapy it was nice and they had a
Speaker 3: rehab this past one. They had a rehab dog who
Speaker 3: was very sweet. What kind of dog was It was
Speaker 3: a black lab? Oh my god, which is the best.
Speaker 3: We have three dogs now, So that was that was amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And then we did have a rehab dance. I think
Speaker 3: because I was there, they have like the winter dance.
Speaker 3: I was there for Thanksgiving. Excive me. Meal was like
Speaker 3: incredible in rehab. Wow, like one of the best. I
Speaker 3: was like having a panic attack all day. But then
Speaker 3: as soon as I got off my bathroom floor, I
Speaker 3: was like, oh this stuff extrim in. So yeah, we
Speaker 3: we had like a like a formal where it was
Speaker 3: like a dance and it was just like nobody was
Speaker 3: nobody was dancing with each other, you know, like, no,
Speaker 3: that's not true. There's one guy who was like yeah,
Speaker 3: but he was like trying to like make it happen,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. That's a rehab no no,
Speaker 3: no rehab romance. Although it all happened, it happens a lot,
Speaker 3: it's never happened.
Speaker 1: People were fucking right, definitely want.
Speaker 3: Nobody was fucking I think this time around, but it has.
Speaker 3: It has. My friend wouldn't met his wife in fucking rehab.
Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, yeah, it does happen. I
Speaker 3: mean because you don't have like of course, yeah, and
Speaker 3: also you don't have anything else. But at that point
Speaker 3: you're like, well, yeah, you know, I can't do heroin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. When you can't do substances, the next best
Speaker 1: thing is like being addicted to a person. I mean,
Speaker 1: I actually enjoyed that more.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, I think that I think that I
Speaker 3: think that becomes a thing for a lot of people
Speaker 3: where it's afterwards they're like, all right, well sex then
Speaker 3: becomes the thing, you know, and it's like right now
Speaker 3: for me, it's like like the one that's the hardest
Speaker 3: is food. But yeah, yeah, you still do it. You know,
Speaker 3: you can cut off sex and drinking, but you still
Speaker 3: have to eat.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I often think about that that and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like writing something about that. I mean, like
Speaker 1: not that because I don't have food addiction, but if
Speaker 1: there was something that I was like most like my
Speaker 1: most challenging relationship as far as substance, it's definitely food.
Speaker 1: And the thing is like, yeah, exactly, you can stop
Speaker 1: doing a heroin cold turkey, but you have to eat
Speaker 1: a little Yeah. Yeah, So how do you do just.
Speaker 3: Do the healthy heroine?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not It's all around.
Speaker 3: I mean I just got back from Dallas where I
Speaker 3: went to like Terry Black's Barbecue and Waterburger and Mexican
Speaker 3: and I was just you know, but I over eat
Speaker 3: my wife, who's like, you know, one hundred and five pounds.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, let me eat, like eat like a
Speaker 3: quarter of what I eat, you know, And I'm like
Speaker 3: we are not the same. Ye yeah, like, well a
Speaker 3: little taste banana pudding rather than like just with a
Speaker 3: gallon in a corner, mainlining it in my fucking veins.
Speaker 1: So do they go over food addiction and rehabit all
Speaker 1: or they just concentrating on a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are some nutrition stuff there for.
Speaker 1: Sure, are they what are they presenting for food addiction there?
Speaker 3: I mean they went through a lot of like a
Speaker 3: lot of you know, it's not the number one thing
Speaker 3: they're focusing on, honestly, unless unless you have an eating
Speaker 3: disorder and you're like cross addicted. So some you know,
Speaker 3: if some c that sounds so hot, some girls like
Speaker 3: you know, like a bleamic on top of being an alcoholic,
Speaker 3: then she's probably gonna have a much rougher road than
Speaker 3: right if you were just one of those things. Right,
Speaker 3: So it's not the prime. If you gain thirty pounds
Speaker 3: the first year, they're like, that's fine if you're not
Speaker 3: you know, oh doing fatanol like you shouldn't, but it's
Speaker 3: better than if you were, you know. And then there
Speaker 3: are people too that will get like are really underweight,
Speaker 3: and then they'll come and then they'll gain like fifty
Speaker 3: pounds in rehab just because they haven't been eating for
Speaker 3: a year.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, I have two more logistical questions real quick.
Speaker 2: How long were you in the impatient rehab and how
Speaker 2: much was it?
Speaker 3: This time was twenty one days and I was on
Speaker 3: my wife's insurance, so it was great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh it's FULI oh yeah, I love hearing about
Speaker 2: insurance covering something.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe, but it's a little bit. It's it is
Speaker 3: stressful because you don't know, like the only like okay
Speaker 3: you have another three days. Okay, you have another three
Speaker 3: days because they only green light you for three days
Speaker 3: each time. So in your head you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: am I going to be It's going to be the
Speaker 3: I'm going to be. Yeah, But the last rehabit went to,
Speaker 3: it was like it covered. I ended up having to
Speaker 3: spend ten grand and then like insurance paid like twenty
Speaker 3: eight grand or something like that. So like that was
Speaker 3: But then there's ones that are like, you know, sixty
Speaker 3: or seventy thousand dollars and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are the ones for the celebrities.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was the celebrity. The celebrity one I almost
Speaker 3: went to. I did not go to because of you know,
Speaker 3: the I was about to say which celebrity, but like
Speaker 3: I should but yeah, they're all there, so yeah, it's uh,
Speaker 3: hopefully you have insurance that covers it. And a lot
Speaker 3: of the times they want to do out patient because
Speaker 3: it's cheaper, you know, and they can they can keep
Speaker 3: you on out patient for like four months rather than
Speaker 3: in patient.
Speaker 2: Did you have an AHA moment while you weren't therapy
Speaker 2: let's go around? Was there any connection here?
Speaker 3: Like I think I have AHA moments like every time
Speaker 3: in therapy right where it's yeah, I mean this time,
Speaker 3: I'm just starting with a new therapist. My last guy
Speaker 3: was he's actually was sober. He was he was like
Speaker 3: an actor guy who was remember that there's a Dick
Speaker 3: wolf show called cop Rock and it was like one
Speaker 3: owner musical and he had his bottom was he like
Speaker 3: woke up the next day and he was in a
Speaker 3: jeep that he had bought in a blackout with both
Speaker 3: his ears pierced and a tiny toy cup tea multipoo
Speaker 3: that he had. Also he got a dog and was like, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm done.
Speaker 2: That's a a drunk man a dog.
Speaker 3: Dogs.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I had that was my therapist. I get
Speaker 3: a form, right, now.
Speaker 1: That's a good therapist.
Speaker 3: Someone else. Moving on to like a woman. Now, I've
Speaker 3: never had like a female. I've had a the about
Speaker 3: therapist once. That's not true. Usually I'm very good with
Speaker 3: gay men. I don't know why because I'm the most
Speaker 3: like them. Besides, uh, you know, enjoying Penis.
Speaker 1: What about she was gay?
Speaker 3: I don't think that that would work either. I think
Speaker 3: a gay man really understands me.
Speaker 1: No, like, like what about you? You said, I'm the
Speaker 1: most I don't know, because you know, I act mostly.
Speaker 3: With filmy gay to me with I just feel very
Speaker 3: My sponsor in LA was a gay guy. I mostly
Speaker 3: liked LGBT meetings.
Speaker 1: When I was in l A Like really, yeah, how interesting.
Speaker 3: I yeah, I mean I haven't like I've made out
Speaker 3: with the guys where I did a couple of one
Speaker 3: guy once, like when I was in college. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: was like the straightest way to be gay. But I
Speaker 3: did the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like your vagina for a second.
Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't do that to give like a handy
Speaker 3: would is like, might as well just not do anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really phoned in that.
Speaker 3: I really phoned in, really phoned it in. But he
Speaker 3: wanted Tony so I had like the whole thing where
Speaker 3: I was like, man, I houck in, I hooked the
Speaker 3: one guy hook up with I like hung up with
Speaker 3: like the Lebron James of days, and all the women
Speaker 3: are like work at guitar Center Harty's Now I know.
Speaker 3: So it's like, really I should have I should have.
Speaker 3: I would have stayed with cock if I could. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it didn't work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ga, gay makes more sense to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just does. I don't know why I'm more connected.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I've always been.
Speaker 1: Do you have a lot of male friends. Do you
Speaker 1: have a lot of male friends, straight male friends?
Speaker 3: I have a lot of straight mail friends.
Speaker 1: You do, yeah, and you find no no like issue
Speaker 1: connecting with them emotionally or do you just know you are?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think. I think those
Speaker 3: ones that kind of drop away. Yeah, but I have
Speaker 3: guy friends. I'll say, I love you too, which is uh.
Speaker 3: I was uncomfortable for a little bit, like you know,
Speaker 3: who got me out of the out of that for
Speaker 3: a little bit was actually Soda so or so to me,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, I love you too. And
Speaker 3: in the beginning I felt like I always felt like
Speaker 3: there's gonna be like some angry great Santino Dad. It
Speaker 3: was like beat me with a basketball when I did that.
Speaker 3: But I was like, no, you can say I love
Speaker 3: you and it's fine. Yeah, it's fine. But that took it.
Speaker 3: That took a while to do that. But yeah, most
Speaker 3: of my Like I saw one of my best friends
Speaker 3: in I was at Dallas Comedy Club all weekend and
Speaker 3: I saw him and you know, I said I love
Speaker 3: you and that was fine. So that's his wife too.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it took a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sure, Yeah, you just got to get used
Speaker 1: to it. Like it's it's all like training your thoughts.
Speaker 2: Like I feel like when you're working on yourself, it's
Speaker 2: like going to the gym with your mind and going, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm the old thought patterns.
Speaker 1: We're going to reroute. We got to reroute, and you
Speaker 1: just keep rerouting and rerouting until it sticks.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you feel comfortable calling like one of your straight
Speaker 1: guy friends and having a conversation, like you know, about
Speaker 1: struggling with sobriety or do you feel more comfortable only
Speaker 1: talking about your wife With that I talk.
Speaker 3: I can talk to other people who struggle with it.
Speaker 3: Dan had my wife. Those are the two, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't want to talk with them because those are
Speaker 3: the ones that aren't going to let me off the hook.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: There are certain people that I want to call that
Speaker 3: you know, like this time around drinking, and I'm still
Speaker 3: friends with them now seem now, But he didn't know
Speaker 3: that I had a problem, and I kept him as
Speaker 3: like my drunk friend, you know, but now now he does,
Speaker 3: so yeah, I had I would definitely keep those. I
Speaker 3: would try to like partition a little bit, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it was more strategic. I only
Speaker 1: ask because it is like common and heterosexual relationships that
Speaker 1: the woman just takes on the emotional burden of the man.
Speaker 1: And I think, like if you could divvy up some
Speaker 1: of that responsibility to other people in your life, specifically
Speaker 1: not female friends, like it would just be better for society.
Speaker 1: And also it kind of trains men to like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like you should be able to talk to your
Speaker 1: guy friends, like because you they understand what it's like
Speaker 1: to be a guy, Like there are some things that
Speaker 1: only you guys are gonna understand about one another, the
Speaker 1: same as like we have girlfriends.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think like I do think that, like in
Speaker 3: the nineteen fifties, like you could be like best friends
Speaker 3: with a guy and not know that they were depressed,
Speaker 3: right for sure.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And that's and.
Speaker 3: That is one like sort of I guess evolution that's happened.
Speaker 3: But you know, I think in general, people don't I
Speaker 3: think that. And I also have to like sometimes I
Speaker 3: like to like and I think, oh, comics do this
Speaker 3: a lot, like where I vomit out emotions but that
Speaker 3: I'm not really dealing with them. I'm just like here,
Speaker 3: I'm doing this and blah blah blah. But you're just
Speaker 3: you're just like talking about the problem. You're not actually
Speaker 3: having someone challenge you on it or like like going
Speaker 3: to the you know. I mean, and that's kind of
Speaker 3: like and we in comedy rewards that kind of behavior,
Speaker 3: which is in the beginning helps you stand out, but
Speaker 3: then it really helps stunt you, you know, where it's
Speaker 3: like I'm a you know, how many sets to be seen,
Speaker 3: I'm a drum, I'm a slow, I'm an asshole, I'm
Speaker 3: you know, when it's like wearing like a badge, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you wear like imagine it's like okay, yeah that's funny.
Speaker 3: But like what are you doing to work? Right?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So that takes uh, you know, and that's that's hard.
Speaker 3: That's hard to fucking want to fix too, you know,
Speaker 3: because I think we too, we have this thing too
Speaker 3: where it's like, well, if I fix everything, then I'm
Speaker 3: not going to be particularly interesting to anybody.
Speaker 1: Well that's part of the fear. Though. I think you
Speaker 1: still well and you still have your you know, your
Speaker 1: history can always beat a story. But like you're not
Speaker 1: gonna have any friends left if you don't.
Speaker 2: And there's so many interesting things to get into once
Speaker 2: you're sober and like kind of have of the right mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like aliens.
Speaker 3: Yeah there we go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah they are. So you've been married for
Speaker 1: five years. What has been your favorite part of being married,
Speaker 1: like like a little like a little more specific, not
Speaker 1: just like support like well.
Speaker 3: You know, I mean the hang's great, man, the hang.
Speaker 1: You know, Like, is it different when you're married?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I think that there's less of
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, like when you're dating, it's just
Speaker 3: there's like a lot of an element of like it
Speaker 3: being a show every time you go out, you know,
Speaker 3: And I feel genuinely comfortable with my wife and you know,
Speaker 3: most of the people that I know that the relationships
Speaker 3: that last that I've known and you know, I'm are
Speaker 3: the ones where they can feel comfortable, like completely comfortable
Speaker 3: around this person. That's not the ones that don't last
Speaker 3: are not like, oh, we had this amazing pheromone like
Speaker 3: connection and it was like the movie Garden State or
Speaker 3: some shit like that.
Speaker 1: That was my dream relationship right twenties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is because it's part of it's a drug,
Speaker 3: you know, and you want that, and it's not you know,
Speaker 3: like I forget this. There's this one writer Joel I
Speaker 3: forget who it was now, but he was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I can just feel I can be boring around my wife.
Speaker 3: That's how I know, like a lot of people are like,
Speaker 3: you know, like all the other stuff, like yeah, it's
Speaker 3: like dude, does she call me on my shit? Absolutely,
Speaker 3: but like that's great, you know, and I need that,
Speaker 3: But it's not like the same I think that that's
Speaker 3: the And we have like three really cute dogs. We
Speaker 3: love watching horror movies together. We love you know, like
Speaker 3: the same thing we love, you know, laughing, and it's
Speaker 3: one of those things where like I think I'm her
Speaker 3: favorite person to annoy to, so like, I think that
Speaker 3: that's games, that there's there's a lot of really good things,
Speaker 3: and I also think that I it took me a while,
Speaker 3: but for a while I was trying to like look
Speaker 3: for somebody who was withholding, because I wanted to recreate
Speaker 3: the same relationship I had with my mom growing up
Speaker 3: and then and not just her, but I think like
Speaker 3: someone I dated also up before her. I was like, no,
Speaker 3: let me do the opposite and like go for somebody
Speaker 3: who actually really likes me, because I think too, and
Speaker 3: I think that like comedy and show based stuff makes
Speaker 3: that worse because we always want the thing we can't get,
Speaker 3: and if you do that with romantic relationships, you're fucked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, Like my therapistic is very clear.
Speaker 1: She's like, the most important thing about a relationship is
Speaker 1: like the person really likes you, because it's been a
Speaker 1: kind of running joke. Like my favorite thing about ple
Speaker 1: like like one of my favorite quality about someone is
Speaker 1: like if they really like me and everyone always makes
Speaker 1: fun of me for that, they're like, oh, it's like
Speaker 1: a narcissist. And I brought so I brought it to
Speaker 1: my therapist and I said, and she goes, no, that's
Speaker 1: the fucking way that you should be looking at relationships.
Speaker 1: She's like, you're doing it right, and everyone else is
Speaker 1: projecting on you because they can't do it that way.
Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, I just want to
Speaker 1: make sure because it seemed to me like very logical
Speaker 1: that you should be pursuing someone who sees you in
Speaker 1: the most positive light.
Speaker 3: You know. I was thinking about the you know this
Speaker 3: girl that I dated in my twenties when on three
Speaker 3: days right, and like physically she's what she looked like
Speaker 3: the lead singer of churches, which like at the time
Speaker 3: what I wanted. I was like, I was thinking about
Speaker 3: this like dating, and I was like, I think the
Speaker 3: girl fucking hated me. And we went out like you
Speaker 3: probably loved two times and I kept going back. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I would never do like that would be like, oh,
Speaker 3: I could say my wife divorce me, please don't tomorrow,
Speaker 3: Like I would like that would be the last The
Speaker 3: last thing that I be doing is like be like, oh,
Speaker 3: let me go search for the fucking yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: like that that one girl.
Speaker 2: Getirl, she's you know, I know you're super Yeah.
Speaker 3: I also was cute. I also wonder type now, but
Speaker 3: it was she was cute.
Speaker 1: I wonder, like, what is wrong with that woman too?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 1: You know, why is she going out with someone she hates?
Speaker 3: I think that's because I think I think that, like,
Speaker 3: because there's probably a guy that she really likes that uh,
Speaker 3: women be doing that, you know that. She's like, I
Speaker 3: need to have I need to know that, like I
Speaker 3: have somebody who's worshiping me because the guy that I
Speaker 3: really want and you.
Speaker 1: Were worshiping it was that excessive?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, but it was. It wasn't that obsessed.
Speaker 3: I have worship girls before. It wasn't that particular case.
Speaker 1: It was what's it like when you worship a girl?
Speaker 1: What does that look like?
Speaker 3: Well, it has nothing to do with the girl a
Speaker 3: lot of the time and has to do with this
Speaker 3: fucking idea of this person that you put in your
Speaker 3: head that isn't real.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of it's a lot of pressure to
Speaker 1: be worshiped, was the real thing. I was just gonna say,
Speaker 1: But I do. I don't mean that because it because
Speaker 1: you're so right. It's never they are worshiping the idea
Speaker 1: of you that they created in their head, and then
Speaker 1: it puts well, it puts pressure on you. And then
Speaker 1: I go, well, and and then at the end of
Speaker 1: so many things, I go, you created that. I didn't
Speaker 1: ask you to do that.
Speaker 3: I like, who I am scary?
Speaker 1: I didn't. Yeah, I go, I don't know what you're
Speaker 1: trying to heal, you know. And I also hate when
Speaker 1: people put on an act for me because I go, well,
Speaker 1: I just felt fell in love with someone who doesn't exist, Right,
Speaker 1: that's rude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that people there's a common misconception with like, oh,
Speaker 2: if it's positive treatment, it's good. But it's like no,
Speaker 2: either extreme is bad, and the person is right to
Speaker 2: not take either extreme.
Speaker 1: Personally, this all has to do with what's going on
Speaker 1: inside of you, but it takes you.
Speaker 3: I really think you need to like have a moment
Speaker 3: where you say to yourself, what do I really want?
Speaker 3: What is good for my person? Rather than like just
Speaker 3: hoping I meet that person, because if you do that,
Speaker 3: you're you're your internal navigations already fucked. Yeah, you have
Speaker 3: to reset that on your own before you go back
Speaker 3: out there again. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, I mean, did you have a list of things,
Speaker 1: because one of the things you mentioned is like you
Speaker 1: like you like that she calls you on her ship,
Speaker 1: which I hear a lot from men. But I, as
Speaker 1: a woman, also needs someone who calls me on my ship,
Speaker 1: so I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: I do that too.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that for sure, And like what else were
Speaker 1: you looking for? Like things that you realized along the way,
Speaker 1: like I need this in a partner for it to
Speaker 1: function well.
Speaker 3: While I didn't want anyone, I did not care about
Speaker 3: a sense of humor, and I did not want to
Speaker 3: care about any.
Speaker 1: That's popular for them because uh, you know I did
Speaker 1: that sounds like you did.
Speaker 3: And yeah yeah, and then I realized like, oh it's
Speaker 3: a lot easier when you're gonna laugh, so like, oh,
Speaker 3: shitload easier. So I didn't care about that forever.
Speaker 1: Did you date women with zero senses of humor?
Speaker 3: I have before sometimes I would.
Speaker 1: Like offended by shit, no sense hu.
Speaker 3: Women that I dated pretty seriously have been pretty funny,
Speaker 3: with the exception of like maybe like one, but it
Speaker 3: wasn't something the wafe. I didn't think, like I had
Speaker 3: this idea that I wanted. I did want like kind
Speaker 3: of an ice princess, I think for a little bit.
Speaker 1: A nice prince princess. Oh, like yeah, I mean people
Speaker 1: get fucking horny for ice princesses.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta be the
Speaker 2: ice princess for Halloween.
Speaker 3: Yah, yeah, be the ice princess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you describe I'm an ice Yeah, I'm an
Speaker 1: ice princess. But the thing is, and then like I've
Speaker 1: worked a lot on not being in relationships, but the
Speaker 1: thing is, people people go after an ice princess, and
Speaker 1: then uh, when they're in the relationship with the ice princess,
Speaker 1: they go, oh, but why are you being an ice princess?
Speaker 1: I thought that was just like the way you catch men,
Speaker 1: and like you go, no, this is like to the
Speaker 1: core who I am? So, why are you going to
Speaker 1: bring home an ice princess and then expect me to
Speaker 1: turn into a trad wife, Like it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Like you you you selected something from the store, and
Speaker 1: then you go, why is this the thing I selected
Speaker 1: from the store? Why didn't it morph into something else?
Speaker 3: I don't know where.
Speaker 1: I don't know where that like comes through. It's it's
Speaker 1: just the same as like women are constant being like
Speaker 1: instantly being told like you can't change men like men
Speaker 1: need to learn the same thing about women that they go.
Speaker 3: I think that, like, you know, there's things you know,
Speaker 3: when you get in related you should always be changing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you should always be evolving, and you should you know,
Speaker 3: like and when you get into anything, you're like, Okay,
Speaker 3: these are some things that I don't like about this
Speaker 3: person that are probably not going to totally change, but
Speaker 3: I need we need to work on them, you know,
Speaker 3: because and I think I think that that's in every
Speaker 3: relationship you should have that. But the idea of fundamentally
Speaker 3: changing the person, I mean, that's just a fool's.
Speaker 1: Errands, you know, right well for sure, because I go, oh,
Speaker 1: the thing you liked about me is that you really
Speaker 1: couldn't like, you couldn't get through to me, and and
Speaker 1: now you're mad that you can't get through to me
Speaker 1: when that was the initially the thing that you liked about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's unfair.
Speaker 2: It's all about that person's own like goals, and there's
Speaker 2: they're like crooked self esteem attached to.
Speaker 3: The goal and but to the point of like we
Speaker 3: don't want because sometimes my wife, like she'll be like, hey,
Speaker 3: you want to wear this, and it's like a very
Speaker 3: preppy thing to wear, and I'm like, you're not gonna
Speaker 3: change me. She's like, that's fine, but I don't want
Speaker 3: you to wear a fucking stone cold Steve Austin shirt
Speaker 3: to my friend friend at this formal thing we've got
Speaker 3: to meet in the middle somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she seems like she has a good head on
Speaker 1: her shoulder.
Speaker 3: She does.
Speaker 2: I remember when I saw pictures when you guys got married,
Speaker 2: you post pictures. I'm like, I don't like, I usually
Speaker 2: don't get a lot from a picture of a person,
Speaker 2: but I'm like, she just feels grounded to me.
Speaker 3: She did well. It was also next to me and
Speaker 3: I have like giant hair, and everyone looks kind of grounded.
Speaker 3: This is like Wednesday Adams or something.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, what do you feel like if we
Speaker 1: were talking to your wife, what do you feel like
Speaker 1: she would say, is the most positive effect you've had
Speaker 1: on her? Like? What is it that really stands out
Speaker 1: that you bring to her into her life?
Speaker 3: I can calm her down, probably better than anybody nice.
Speaker 1: You know, how do you how do you calm a
Speaker 1: woman down? I'm woman.
Speaker 3: Everyone's different, So it's how do you.
Speaker 1: Calm her down? Specifically?
Speaker 3: Literally? You go like we need to let's I smack
Speaker 3: her around of it, throw around a it just bounce
Speaker 3: her head against No. I was like, let's let's slow down,
Speaker 3: let's I go through this, like we're not logically thinking
Speaker 3: about this right now.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like kind of that kind of thing. But she
Speaker 3: does for me too, So it's like we're both very
Speaker 3: good at that. Because I think she's dated she could
Speaker 3: never like she could never date a guy and she
Speaker 3: has before who were kind of like her who were
Speaker 3: more like like if she dated someone who was on
Speaker 3: her ass for cleaning, she would she would murder them,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. She's much more comfortable with
Speaker 3: me being like, but if somebody was neaterer than her,
Speaker 3: she would like not deal with that at all. So like,
Speaker 3: as much as she gives me shit and I am
Speaker 3: a fucking slob, she gives me shit about being a slob,
Speaker 3: like if she was with somebody who was like because
Speaker 3: there's been times where I've gone like like I've gone like, hey,
Speaker 3: can you pick that? And she'll get like furious, And
Speaker 3: that's like once in a blue moon where I'll do that.
Speaker 3: The only thing I do now is like she'll go
Speaker 3: after me for something, and then I'll in my head,
Speaker 3: I'll like document I'm like, well, two weeks ago, you
Speaker 3: did the same with a coke bottle and I didn't
Speaker 3: say anything, and.
Speaker 1: She's like, you know, like sitting on that one for
Speaker 1: a while.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: I sit on times where she's sloppy, just so I
Speaker 3: can be sloppy, and I like chronicle them in my head,
Speaker 3: which is probably unhealthy.
Speaker 2: One of the beautiful things I love about like a
Speaker 2: long term relationship is like you do get to know
Speaker 2: how to deal with each other, and it's so nice
Speaker 2: when someone deals with you in a way that they're
Speaker 2: not like shaming you for your behavior or anything like that.
Speaker 2: They're like, no, I know your pattern, and I know
Speaker 2: I just got to wait this amount of time and
Speaker 2: you'll completely for you'll completely change your mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know. The time she needs to eat.
Speaker 3: That's the big thing. I think. That's every feeding time
Speaker 3: where I'm like you're being I'll be like like, well,
Speaker 3: she'll get little mean and I'm like, you haven't eaten yet.
Speaker 3: We had to get something I need to like, we
Speaker 3: need to feed you first before that's go out. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it's stuff like that. Yeah, it's it's really unsexy shit
Speaker 3: to talk about, you know, a post to like my friend.
Speaker 3: I know that they're like, I know a friend. I'm
Speaker 3: not going to say he is probably in cruising for
Speaker 3: a bruising with a role relationship, because the way that
Speaker 3: they are talking about it is like I've never felt
Speaker 3: this way before, and she and in this and it's
Speaker 3: hard to get through to her and it's like it
Speaker 3: just sounds so fucking dramatic already.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is not gonna work, right, but man, yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's there.
Speaker 2: Your friend is hooked because Yeah, the most tragic addiction
Speaker 2: of all.
Speaker 1: Of this is hope a lot of times, because that
Speaker 1: were really fuck you over.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, the audacity of hope.
Speaker 2: No, but I think it's kind of I actually think
Speaker 2: it is sexy when your partner can like knows you
Speaker 2: so well that they don't take your certain things personally,
Speaker 2: but they also don't put up with your ship like.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: I think it's so hot.
Speaker 3: Do you have that with your man? Man?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I'm very Oh thank you. I tried,
Speaker 1: it just.
Speaker 3: Didn't work out. I was putting a yes, like woking
Speaker 3: a stamp for.
Speaker 1: Me did I do it right? And she was like,
Speaker 1: you could have done it for more than a second.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like when like I'm very I'm.
Speaker 2: A I can be very dramatic, and it's nice when
Speaker 2: and I'll like be dramatic in a situation and like
Speaker 2: I'll apologize later.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I know, I know, you're just being dramatic.
Speaker 3: It is fine.
Speaker 2: And I knew about twelve hours right on the dot
Speaker 2: you were gonna go home. I'm so sorry and like,
Speaker 2: it's fine, I don't care.
Speaker 1: Kissed me off. I'm like, wow, that's amazing. And it
Speaker 1: also dissolve.
Speaker 2: It makes me want to dissolve that behavior because being
Speaker 2: called out in a way that's not shameful actually paves
Speaker 2: the way for you to change.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still feel like it's fight. It makes me
Speaker 1: want to dissolve. When people can predict my patterns, You go,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm gonna change it. Then, don't want to
Speaker 1: be a hack and go, I'm gonna throw something in
Speaker 1: the mix next time, and you won't even know that
Speaker 1: I'm going to react that way. One of the last
Speaker 1: questions I had for you.
Speaker 2: We get a lot of emails about people entering relationships
Speaker 2: with their part, Like I think it's safe to say
Speaker 2: that you should not should I know should is a
Speaker 2: dirty word, but entering a relationship with somebody who's an
Speaker 2: active addiction, if you could like yeah, you know that's
Speaker 2: a no no, right, I mean that's like, what are
Speaker 2: your thoughts? Because you met your if you were in
Speaker 2: you were you had a couple like really long stints
Speaker 2: of sobriety, and you met her in those stints, so
Speaker 2: it's like, you.
Speaker 1: Know, it's a foundation. But then I'm like, am I
Speaker 1: am I judging you on something? That does that matter?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean I think it's always you know, you don't
Speaker 3: want to you never want to be in the relationship.
Speaker 3: I call it like the gate keeper and key master
Speaker 3: thing or either gay gay or either re meet somebody
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh this we're about to doom each other. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is really bad. I definitely I had one time
Speaker 3: where I was really actually a real weekend and girl
Speaker 3: met up with me and she has since passed, but
Speaker 3: like I could tell we both had it, you know,
Speaker 3: like so it was like like I've had that before
Speaker 3: where it's been like this is probably not but I've
Speaker 3: never that's never been something. I've always been somebody who's
Speaker 3: attracted to someone with their shit together more than me
Speaker 3: because I just can't. You know, two drowning people can't
Speaker 3: save each other, right, So I would say that that's
Speaker 3: always not good. But I think I find a lot
Speaker 3: of the times that people like who are attracted that
Speaker 3: either because they want to do it themselves or this happens.
Speaker 3: I think a lot with women, they there's a part
Speaker 3: of them, even though they say they hate it, there's
Speaker 3: a part of them that gets off on being this
Speaker 3: guy's babysitter totally yeah, gets off.
Speaker 1: On creating a parent relationship they had.
Speaker 3: And also they can't fucking And then if you have
Speaker 3: a drunk if you're dating a drunk dude who's drunk
Speaker 3: all the time, they can't call you out on your shit.
Speaker 3: So if you were a girl who like has her
Speaker 3: own problems, if she's like, well, yeah, I made to that,
Speaker 3: but I didn't fucking vomit it a Chili's the other night,
Speaker 3: and then the guy gets quiet because he knows. So
Speaker 3: it's like, you keep the fuck up around so the
Speaker 3: the telescope's never on you.
Speaker 2: It's like you're dating a reality television show. You're like, well,
Speaker 2: well it's not that bad, so I'm doing great exactly.
Speaker 1: I never thought about that.
Speaker 3: She's Actually I watched the show Summer Out Now I
Speaker 3: watch reality show and there's like a couple like that,
Speaker 3: a man and Kyle, where I was like, clearly, she
Speaker 3: just like she never wants to get sober, because then
Speaker 3: she did. It's like she's gonna be on her you know,
Speaker 3: like where it's like one of those things. I think, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like, well, if I have this baby drunk around.
Speaker 1: All the time, it's baby trunk. Oh my god. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being on the show.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Can you promote your special for everyone?
Speaker 3: We did it at the top, but do it again,
Speaker 3: dance Fatty dance. I do talk about we never talked
Speaker 3: about sex stuff, So I do talk about getting pegged
Speaker 3: on my wife by my wife on the special, which
Speaker 3: that you know, you just have to check out the
Speaker 3: special for that. It's funny. I don't think anyone turn on.
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, so I uh yeah, I talk a
Speaker 3: lot about politics and my relationship with my wife, and
Speaker 3: then a bunch of other and some recovery stuff. So
Speaker 3: that's on YouTube and uh It'll be on eight from
Speaker 3: Pound Girls side first and then All Things and then
Speaker 3: maybe Norman's YouTube page. I'm not sure, but I'm also
Speaker 3: on Instagram dance Saint Germain on Instagram. I put like,
Speaker 3: like every single one of us, we have to put
Speaker 3: like three videos out on it every week. I have
Speaker 3: a YouTube channel, I have a wrestling podcast. I still
Speaker 3: do wrestle ROAs hell. Yeah, I love which. I don't
Speaker 3: know how much crossover.
Speaker 1: There is for this podcasts fans listening.
Speaker 3: To some skanks, fans listen to us. Yeah, so check
Speaker 3: that out if you're a big wrestling fan, and uh,
Speaker 3: tell your comedy club to book me. So that's about it.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much. Thank you for being vulnerable
Speaker 1: with us. That's Eric's feeling today. Yeah, I'm gonna throw
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