Speaker 1: Wake that ans up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning.
Speaker 2: Everybody's the vej n V Jess Hilarius Charlamage, the God.
Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: We got some special guests in the building. People are
Speaker 2: nervous about these three individuals and then they gonna ruin
Speaker 2: their lives with this new documentary.
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, we have Jay Allen, Nicki Bows and
Speaker 3: Uncle Luke.
Speaker 2: The documentary Freaknick The Wildest Party Never Told, streaming now
Speaker 2: on Hulu.
Speaker 3: Welcome, that's good.
Speaker 2: Good. Now we've all seen the doc and a lot
Speaker 2: of people who haven't were very nervous. They thought they
Speaker 2: were gonna see older videos.
Speaker 3: Of Uncle Luke throwing money on him.
Speaker 4: They thought they were gonna send videos.
Speaker 2: Of themselves at Freaknick's, you know, torking on cars. They
Speaker 2: didn't call it torking back then. It was booty shaking
Speaker 2: on cars. They weren't gonna see that. But the doc
Speaker 2: is not really like that. It kind of explains the
Speaker 2: story of the origin, how it started, how it helped
Speaker 2: so many people, how it helped the land of music
Speaker 2: and all that. So break down the documentary and why
Speaker 2: you guys wanted to put this together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were a few years behind. You know what.
Speaker 5: The essence of freaking it was to be able to attend.
Speaker 5: So when Nick and I created the original concept, you know,
Speaker 5: we knew we were missing the stories. And that's when
Speaker 5: we went and found Uncle Luke and found Jermaine so
Speaker 5: that we could tell the story the right way. And essentially,
Speaker 5: as we were putting it together, everybody had a freaking story.
Speaker 5: So what you see is a hybrid of everybody from
Speaker 5: the DC Metro Club to you know, the people that
Speaker 5: were at the end telling the story.
Speaker 3: About now what y'all know about Freedman, because y'all weren't that.
Speaker 2: Y'all weren't there, so y'all want to hear stories from uncles, aunties.
Speaker 6: What anybody coming back like, you would wait for them
Speaker 6: to get back so you can see what happened. They
Speaker 6: coming back with the shirts with the big Looney Tune
Speaker 6: characters and the Bart Simpsons and all of that and
Speaker 6: the music, all of that coming back and you're like, oh,
Speaker 6: I can't wait to go, only for it to end
Speaker 6: before you can get there.
Speaker 4: This is interesting though, that I think about it.
Speaker 7: O Ja and Nicky y'all wanted to do the doc
Speaker 7: but the OG's like the Lukes who not just where
Speaker 7: they have provided the soundtrack for it. Did y'all not
Speaker 7: want to tell the story Luke just because you're like,
Speaker 7: you know what, some thing's been left one said, you
Speaker 7: know what I mean, some takes the best left off
Speaker 7: the record.
Speaker 8: Nah, Nah, I mean for me, you know, it's it's
Speaker 8: always telling the stories, you know, because my story has
Speaker 8: never been told, you know. And I looked at my
Speaker 8: whole career, you know, my stories you know, have not
Speaker 8: been documented, you know, for whatever reason, and uh, you know,
Speaker 8: when I jumped on this, it was it was about,
Speaker 8: you know, my whole life story, you know. I was,
Speaker 8: I did a deal with a film company, and I
Speaker 8: looked at the actual script that was written for my
Speaker 8: biopic and then I was like, half of my stories
Speaker 8: ain't being told. So, you know, I didn't enter into
Speaker 8: a deal with Swirl Films to be able to do
Speaker 8: these different parts of my life stories.
Speaker 1: So when Jay and Nicky mentioned Freak nick.
Speaker 8: And I was like, that's another part of my life
Speaker 8: story that wouldn't have been in a long stripted film,
Speaker 8: you know, and so be amongst that story and other stories,
Speaker 8: you know, So you know, that that I'm doing for
Speaker 8: the next couple of years, you know, document those stories
Speaker 8: and put them out.
Speaker 1: You know, this is just one part of it.
Speaker 7: You that would do a proper anything about Uncle Luke
Speaker 7: in this era, everybody's so sensitive.
Speaker 4: People want to cancer folks. Could you ever do that properly?
Speaker 4: Because you would have to you.
Speaker 1: Can only do it one way. Yeah, you could only
Speaker 1: do it one way.
Speaker 8: And that's why, like, like I have a I'm doing
Speaker 8: a biopick with Will Packer, and we negotiating with a
Speaker 8: couple of different companies. And the unique way of how
Speaker 8: we put that together, you know, kind of took the
Speaker 8: sensitivity out of it, because, yeah, you live in a
Speaker 8: different era, you know. And even with this right here,
Speaker 8: you know, Freaknick is a large part of my story,
Speaker 8: you know, and you know I put the freak.
Speaker 1: In Freaknick, and so you know, you had to do
Speaker 1: it in a unique way.
Speaker 8: Because if you did it, if if we did this
Speaker 8: story a certain type of way in this life that
Speaker 8: we live in right now, we're probably be in jail.
Speaker 2: The Uncle Luke ruined Freaknick and changed the HBCU proper
Speaker 2: picnic of what they were trying to do.
Speaker 3: They were trying to be the dc uh.
Speaker 2: People that couldn't afford to go home were trying to
Speaker 2: create this brilliant and nice space. And you know, the
Speaker 2: Greeks were stepping and there was barbecue and there was food.
Speaker 4: And then came let me say.
Speaker 8: You you know.
Speaker 4: You're talking about I would say he enhanced it.
Speaker 3: You would think Atlanta wasn't ready for that, obviously.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna say it wasn't ready.
Speaker 6: It just didn't know it was ready because that him
Speaker 6: coming there wild'n out and all of that made other
Speaker 6: people come there and made other acts come there. And
Speaker 6: then that's where the music came from, and the South
Speaker 6: got something to say and all of that.
Speaker 4: And I mean, Uncle Luke, and.
Speaker 3: Look what made you want to go to Freknick?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 2: Was it the buzzing at the time because it was
Speaker 2: small at first, and then you took it to another level.
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, you having a party in Atlanta
Speaker 8: and it's called Freaknick. I got to be the ambassat,
Speaker 8: so I mean, so, I mean, basically, you know, this
Speaker 8: was at the time when I went it was the
Speaker 8: height of my career, our career, or the controversy going
Speaker 8: to jail doing all these different things, you know, and
Speaker 8: then I hear about this little party going on in
Speaker 8: Atlanta called Freaknik. So then when I heard it, I
Speaker 8: thought it was a freak party, you know, real talking
Speaker 8: about I need to be there.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm the king of freakingness. I gotta go
Speaker 1: show my face in this joint, you feel me.
Speaker 8: And then at the end of the day, you know,
Speaker 8: we went there and did that, plus some shot videos
Speaker 8: and all these different things, and come to find out
Speaker 8: later on down the line, it was like no, no, no,
Speaker 8: it wasn't No, it wasn't that type of party. It
Speaker 8: was some people out there with little tps and then
Speaker 8: little you know, candos and all.
Speaker 1: That they would trying to have a little Greek thing.
Speaker 1: And before you know it, you know, I put the
Speaker 1: freaking in the picnic.
Speaker 7: So what was the difference between freak Nick in the
Speaker 7: classic in Florida the closet was was wild too.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I mean you you had different you had
Speaker 8: different degrees of it all lot and I lived through
Speaker 8: through through the mall.
Speaker 1: You had Murder Beach, Yes, yeah, same situation.
Speaker 8: You had Murder Beach, then you had Daytona Beach, and
Speaker 8: you know then you from Daytona Beach, you had Carabana
Speaker 8: and uh in Canada, so you had different, uh versions
Speaker 8: of these different parties.
Speaker 1: You know that was generated through young people. Then you
Speaker 1: had Galvestone, uh, the beach week the bike what it was.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 1: It was some sort of beach weekend out there that
Speaker 1: we would go frequent.
Speaker 3: Philly Green Yeah.
Speaker 8: Philly Yeah, Yeah, I remember you know, doing that, doing
Speaker 8: that party, watching people run by my hotel naked. So
Speaker 8: you had all those type of parties and and uh
Speaker 8: you know, and Freak Nick was just one that you had.
Speaker 2: To go to during that time. Did you ever get
Speaker 2: the money you were supposed to get? Because I'm thinking
Speaker 2: about it now. When Uncle Luke pulled up, it wasn't
Speaker 2: like a regular rapper where he could just perform with
Speaker 2: a DJ.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you had a lot of people to pay.
Speaker 2: Did you actually get what you was because you you
Speaker 2: had mc hammer type staff, like you had mad people.
Speaker 8: No, no, not as type staff. I haven't had a
Speaker 8: whole seven twenty seven. I heard him going to Japan
Speaker 8: and I'm like, man, you got all these people in here,
Speaker 8: war drove and all that stuff, like how you pay him?
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, my my crew was a big
Speaker 1: old I mean it was most of the girls.
Speaker 8: It was girls and DJ's and you know, we ain't
Speaker 8: had too many securities. It was it was new artists
Speaker 8: like Pitt Bull would be on the bus, you know,
Speaker 8: Trick Daddy would be on the bus. You know, guys
Speaker 8: that I was breaking along the way, you know, using
Speaker 8: my popularity to spend them off to hopefully had him
Speaker 8: become a hit artist.
Speaker 7: Could you tell me what was the Miami influence on
Speaker 7: Atlanta sound because Atlanta.
Speaker 4: Was known for his base too. But there's always, you know,
Speaker 4: a debate about who came first.
Speaker 8: We came first, no question. I started hip hop in
Speaker 8: the South, yes, no question. I mean it was no
Speaker 8: hip hop and it was no hip hop nowhere in
Speaker 8: the South when I basically started. We was touring those areas.
Speaker 8: We went to Atlanta, they were playing, uh they had
Speaker 8: New York DJs on the radio, so they didn't even
Speaker 8: they didn't even play any music. I mean I signed
Speaker 8: artists out of Atlanta called mc shot d. You know,
Speaker 8: I would go to Sharon showcase they had, you know,
Speaker 8: they had some rappers up in Atlanta, you know, Kizzy Rock,
Speaker 8: They had a few dudes doing some underground stuff. But
Speaker 8: they really wasn't you know, nobody you know, picked them up,
Speaker 8: nobody was, nobody signed them. And so I would go
Speaker 8: there all the time, you know, and pretty much do
Speaker 8: shows at Sharon Showcase, a hot spot that a little
Speaker 8: underground spot, you know. And uh and you know, once
Speaker 8: we went in there, we signed him. He was one
Speaker 8: of the top rappers in town. And then you know,
Speaker 8: Kid blew up and then we just kept on moving around.
Speaker 8: Like even even in New Orleans, we signed a guy
Speaker 8: named bust Down.
Speaker 1: You know, it was a big hit. You know.
Speaker 8: I always you know, I had these conversations with every
Speaker 8: time I see bird Man, he tell me the story
Speaker 8: that he tried to get bust Down and then link
Speaker 8: him up with me and then get him a deal.
Speaker 8: I say, well, it all worked out right for you,
Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But no, it was it was it was no hip
Speaker 1: hop period, you know.
Speaker 8: And even when we did shows with with New York
Speaker 8: artists like Rock Him and all of them, they gave
Speaker 8: us five minutes on stage. Then we would eventually end
Speaker 8: up in a fight. Uh, run to him see another
Speaker 8: five minutes and almost end up in a fight with
Speaker 8: their management and all that, because we you know, we
Speaker 8: were the only things. So it was like really breaking
Speaker 8: ground in an area that that it was unheard of.
Speaker 4: That makes so much sense.
Speaker 7: I didn't know that because everybody always credits ideas being
Speaker 7: a pioneer for Atlanta Base, but you signed, Yeah, I
Speaker 7: didn't know that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he and he eventually became a
Speaker 8: pioneer because he was the first one to break out.
Speaker 2: Were you mad at JD back then when he kind
Speaker 2: of you were doing what you were doing and then he.
Speaker 3: Did the Base All Stars, which was very similar to
Speaker 3: what you were doing. Were you mad at him back
Speaker 3: then at all?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 1: No, no, because you know, I know this story.
Speaker 8: I knew the story of Lil John, you know, working
Speaker 8: at Social Depth and Little John wanted to do bass,
Speaker 8: you know, and where Lil John got, you know, when
Speaker 8: he got his opportunity, you know, to show JD that
Speaker 8: he was you know, he was a producer. You know,
Speaker 8: he did this vergeon a base, which is we called
Speaker 8: it R and B based, you know, with the mabu
Speaker 8: and all that. Yeah, he put a little twist to
Speaker 8: it instead.
Speaker 1: Of trying to do it the same way we were
Speaker 1: doing it. So you know, I loved it. I respect it.
Speaker 1: I mean my thing is the more to marry you
Speaker 1: for everybody.
Speaker 8: If you diversify anything, then the stand power becomes longer.
Speaker 3: Now, how did y'all get all the footage?
Speaker 2: Because that was when you had big ass cam quarters
Speaker 2: on you. There was no cell phone footage.
Speaker 3: How did y'all get all that footage?
Speaker 6: Were some people that we interviewed actually had their own footage?
Speaker 6: And then so when we saw that it wasn't enough,
Speaker 6: on put up a post and was like, give us
Speaker 6: all of your footage before So it started coming in
Speaker 6: and it was it was footage from there. It was
Speaker 6: footage from I literally went the people's houses who had
Speaker 6: active DVD I mean, what do you call them? Yes,
Speaker 6: active VCRs and yeah, went to their house and got that,
Speaker 6: met people in the in the parking lots.
Speaker 4: However we could get the footage I was getting it.
Speaker 3: Was there any celebrities wilding out back then?
Speaker 2: Because everybody was wilding out back then, and like, let's
Speaker 2: take that one out because did you have to take
Speaker 2: anything out? Like we're not gonna put that up, not
Speaker 2: any celebrities, but you got to take something out?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we definitely took footage job.
Speaker 5: Why well, because again I think when people saw this
Speaker 5: the announcement, they thought this was some salacious documentary that
Speaker 5: was being made. But just like Woodstock documentary was made
Speaker 5: and those stores were ale to be told, just like
Speaker 5: we go see you know what happens that Marty grawl, Like,
Speaker 5: black stories deserve the space to be told in a
Speaker 5: way where it's not a gotcha thing.
Speaker 4: Black people gotta stop trying to get motherfuckers. We be
Speaker 4: the main ones on social media ready to get each other.
Speaker 5: But even when we put out there announcement, people like,
Speaker 5: I hope they don't show this picture of me, and
Speaker 5: like you know what I'm saying, like people people presented
Speaker 5: it in that way, and we feel like Freak Nick,
Speaker 5: which is why we have these legends JD.
Speaker 1: Louke.
Speaker 5: We feel like Freak Nick is a story in Black
Speaker 5: history that deserves to be told because it wasn't just
Speaker 5: you know, twrking on Peachtree, you know outcast. These these
Speaker 5: major groups were formed during this time, like these major
Speaker 5: executives like Shanti Das you know and KP like all
Speaker 5: these people came out of this ecosystem and so we
Speaker 5: wanted to make sure we told the full story of Freaknick,
Speaker 5: not just you can't you can't feel ninety minutes of
Speaker 5: just torking on p Stree.
Speaker 7: And the funniest part about this is Uncle looked to
Speaker 7: be having a little smile on his face the whole time,
Speaker 7: like he just reminiscing about it.
Speaker 1: Right here, I do have all we're getting head in
Speaker 1: the back of the US waiting.
Speaker 3: Career.
Speaker 1: It was it was very important.
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, going to Atlanta in the nineties,
Speaker 8: in the early nineties when I heard about the actuals,
Speaker 8: you know, heard about the party, and then going there,
Speaker 8: we did videos there, we marketed.
Speaker 1: New artists there.
Speaker 8: Uh. But at the same time, you know, I was
Speaker 8: right there when it kind of went bad, you know,
Speaker 8: and then trying to work with you know, city officials
Speaker 8: and try to straighten it out and clean it up,
Speaker 8: working with different promoters and all that. So I was
Speaker 8: like really in the thick of things, uh, when it
Speaker 8: when it when it kind of went bad, and then.
Speaker 1: Tried to actually save it.
Speaker 8: But then, you know, like you see in the doc,
Speaker 8: you couldn't save something that when the Olympics was coming in,
Speaker 8: you know, that was too big for everything.
Speaker 1: But but uh, it was. It was really important, you know,
Speaker 1: especially you know the couple. I remember one video I did.
Speaker 8: I think it was Bounce of the Beat and we
Speaker 8: rented the whole Nico Hotel and had helicopters flying and
Speaker 8: had girls over the balcony and all that, and you
Speaker 8: know that became a big, big song for me.
Speaker 4: Did you ever try to move it?
Speaker 7: Like when they when they was talking about canceling, he
Speaker 7: was like, man, let's bring it to Miami.
Speaker 8: Well it was all similar, I mean, because we remember
Speaker 8: we started, uh can Coon, We started doing the parties
Speaker 8: on Tomorrow Day weekend and can Coon and all the
Speaker 8: celebrities would come down there.
Speaker 1: And then we moved to South Beach and then same
Speaker 1: situation right now that you got going on that happened
Speaker 1: with Freaknick.
Speaker 8: Thought about it, but it was it was It was hard,
Speaker 8: I mean because you know Atlanta and just like Jays,
Speaker 8: it became a monster because everybody started using it as
Speaker 8: a promotional to you know, it wasn't just Atlanta going
Speaker 8: to Freaknik.
Speaker 1: Now, it was the world coming to Freak Nick.
Speaker 8: It was everybody from Detroit and every black college on
Speaker 8: that spring break weekend. What a grid lock happened because
Speaker 8: the city just couldn't hold that many people coming to
Speaker 8: uh Atlanta like that.
Speaker 2: They tried to do it a couple of years ago, right,
Speaker 2: it didn't work out. Could ever happened again?
Speaker 4: That's that's tough.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think free Nick could happen. And everybody
Speaker 5: has a different opinion. I don't think free Nick could
Speaker 5: happen the way it did back then. I just think
Speaker 5: that's impossible. No major metropolitan the city is gonna let
Speaker 5: you shut him down like that. But one of our
Speaker 5: other EPs on the project was twenty one Savage And
Speaker 5: what I love that Savage did. He threw the party
Speaker 5: with Han, who is a monster out here. But what
Speaker 5: he did was a free Nick theme party. And when
Speaker 5: you went to that party, which he graciously allowed us
Speaker 5: to attend, it felt like freed Nick. He had Uncle
Speaker 5: Luke on stage. Drake was there, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Like it felt like in the nineties. He had a
Speaker 5: car club with the nineties cars.
Speaker 1: I mean it was.
Speaker 6: He had like the artists that were back then doing
Speaker 6: it on stage.
Speaker 1: One. Yeah, I think you, I really think it can.
Speaker 8: It can come back, and it can come back in
Speaker 8: a positive way, because when you really look at the story,
Speaker 8: you see how it started with you know, some some
Speaker 8: HBCU grads and they created something because they couldn't afford it.
Speaker 8: And still to this day, kids can't afford to go
Speaker 8: to go to dusting and I go to Panama City
Speaker 8: out South Beach, you know, And I just think in
Speaker 8: an organized way, because everything is programmed. You know, if
Speaker 8: you program something, it don't get chaotic. If freak Nick
Speaker 8: was programmed, it wouldn't have got chaotic. It would have
Speaker 8: been similar to the Essence Festival right now. We all
Speaker 8: would be, you know, talking about how it started, how
Speaker 8: great it is, you know.
Speaker 1: But again, it just it.
Speaker 8: Takes a programming an organization to do something like that.
Speaker 8: And I think you could kind of bring it back
Speaker 8: and be able to give a large portion of the
Speaker 8: money to HBCUs and things like that, do it in
Speaker 8: a positive way. I'm a firm believer of taking something
Speaker 8: that was so negative and then creating a positive out
Speaker 8: of it.
Speaker 1: If you could do that, you know, it'll be a
Speaker 1: good thing.
Speaker 8: I don't want woke Nick thought you want the girls
Speaker 8: sitting on your face.
Speaker 4: No, I'm married, But I want some young young man
Speaker 4: experience that I.
Speaker 1: Want just send them out on the weekend with you.
Speaker 4: But I do like what you said cause I never
Speaker 4: thought about it. Freak Nick didn't have no programming. It
Speaker 4: was just everybody was just out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what they do.
Speaker 8: That's what they do when when they want to shut
Speaker 8: something down for young African American kids, no different than
Speaker 8: what's going on on Miami Beach right now, you know, Uh,
Speaker 8: they'll take it and and and when they want to
Speaker 8: gentrified neighborhood.
Speaker 1: They let crime, crime, crime, throw it on TV.
Speaker 8: Crime is bad, it's all this, you know, and let
Speaker 8: it just go real bad so the general public can
Speaker 8: be behind what they getting ready to really do, which
Speaker 8: is shut something down, are going.
Speaker 1: To take over a neighborhood.
Speaker 4: That's how you feel about South Beach canceling.
Speaker 8: Yeah, this South Beach got one of the most racist
Speaker 8: governments ever the mankind. And it's they have a blueprint
Speaker 8: for whatever council come in and whatever mayor comes in
Speaker 8: a spring breaking Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 1: You know, I always tell people just don't go there,
Speaker 1: don't go spend your money there.
Speaker 2: It always bothered me because when you see the white
Speaker 2: schools and the white people do their spring break, right,
Speaker 2: they got crime, they drinking and.
Speaker 3: Driving, their public intoxfication, it's fighting and all that.
Speaker 2: They kind of get swept under rug they don't have
Speaker 2: a problem, but when it's us, they shut it down
Speaker 2: like and they go hard.
Speaker 3: Like like you said, spring break in Miami where they
Speaker 3: say two hundred and thirty people got arrested. Those are
Speaker 3: college kids.
Speaker 2: How they gonna fee to get it exactly, so we're
Speaker 2: being drunk like that was what spring break was around.
Speaker 3: You walk around with your red cup.
Speaker 1: And have a good time. And what people don't realize
Speaker 1: is you have a white spring break.
Speaker 8: Well white colleges go all at the same time, and
Speaker 8: then later in the springtime, you have all the black
Speaker 8: colleges that have spring break at the same time. So
Speaker 8: they know, you know, they know the schedules of these
Speaker 8: different colleges, and like right now it's black college spring
Speaker 8: break around the world because all of the black college
Speaker 8: kind of.
Speaker 1: Do that, do that spring break the same time, and
Speaker 1: so that's why you have it like that. The same
Speaker 1: thing as Carolina Brother and deal with the myrtle beats.
Speaker 4: The same thing happened black Bike weekend. It's not white
Speaker 4: bike WEGND but it was like two weeks ago.
Speaker 3: It's like it was kind of like white Bike, but
Speaker 3: they just.
Speaker 5: Call this bike week exactly one. It's called Black Bike Week.
Speaker 5: It's you know, completely different and shut down.
Speaker 7: So did you hear earthquake when he was up here
Speaker 7: Luke and he said that he dropped a nuclear missile.
Speaker 1: You can't miss y'all show when he told me.
Speaker 8: When I when I heard that story right here on
Speaker 8: your show, it's like, I'm like, oh lord, this man,
Speaker 8: this man find to blame me.
Speaker 1: My dog too quick. I mean, hey, but that was
Speaker 1: that was funny.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Do you still feel like hip hop forgot about Florida
Speaker 7: when fifty celebrations?
Speaker 1: No, no question about it.
Speaker 8: I mean we it was we had the going you know,
Speaker 8: me and Trick that he had to actually go on
Speaker 8: social media and say, hey.
Speaker 1: You forgot about it? That's what the fuck is going on.
Speaker 1: We're part of this, We're major part of this.
Speaker 8: And then people start calling up and like, oh, we're sorry,
Speaker 8: Oh we want to have invite you, we want you
Speaker 8: to be a part of this.
Speaker 1: And everything like that. So I mean that that's that's
Speaker 1: been happening in my entire career.
Speaker 8: And that's that's why I'm you know, before I was mad,
Speaker 8: but like right now, being able to tell all these
Speaker 8: stories in different forms, The Freak Nick Coach, Luke Uh,
Speaker 8: this other show that we're partnering up with Lebron.
Speaker 4: That we get ready to do on you know, scripted
Speaker 4: series that could be the book of Luke.
Speaker 1: Ah, that's gonna be properly the Dark Side of Luke. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: and so and and give you a real story of Miami.
Speaker 8: And you know, between that and the in the in
Speaker 8: the movie that we're doing with Will Packer, and then
Speaker 8: the other uh, the other show with me coaching that
Speaker 8: we're doing with Smack and straight Hand and all them.
Speaker 8: So you will see all these different pieces of being
Speaker 8: able to tell these different stories, which I'm happy right now.
Speaker 8: So I pretty much created a damn film company out
Speaker 8: of the whole thing because they didn't tell the story.
Speaker 1: And then I'll get to tell my own story.
Speaker 7: But you hip hop pioneer, Uncle, Look, that's what pisses
Speaker 7: me off when people have these conversations about hip hop
Speaker 7: pioneers and hip hop moguls. You wanted the original ones.
Speaker 7: We don't get down South hip hop without Uncle.
Speaker 3: You don't think they realized what he sacrificed.
Speaker 1: Again went through.
Speaker 4: I don't think you fought the government for hip hop.
Speaker 8: And we got locked up, got locked up like he
Speaker 8: fought for him on many wasn't fight by himself like
Speaker 8: I was literally fighting. Yeah, I mean and and just
Speaker 8: like you say, man, nobody came to my defense. There
Speaker 8: wasn't no nobody in the industry. Matter of fact, people
Speaker 8: in the industry was talking ship about me. I mean
Speaker 8: it would going Donnie Simpson show other rappers and be like, oh,
Speaker 8: that's not hip hop. You know, got to the point
Speaker 8: where when we did shows with hip hop artists that
Speaker 8: they would say, oh, put them on last, and then
Speaker 8: they would all would leave because you know how you
Speaker 8: do a show, everybody on the side seeing who rocked
Speaker 8: the stage and shit. So we we we had to
Speaker 8: go through a lot, you know people, But then people
Speaker 8: start understanding. And that's why, you know, I was happy
Speaker 8: that we put Savager part of this because when he
Speaker 8: looked at you know, you know, this young kid is
Speaker 8: trying to understand, you know, just what went on, you know,
Speaker 8: this part of history, you know, and people like aside Rocket,
Speaker 8: when I'd sit down conversation with him. You know, man,
Speaker 8: I would just embrace the history. So you got some
Speaker 8: artists that go deep into it and then they just
Speaker 8: want the vibe and like know where this shit came from.
Speaker 8: But then you got a lot of people that really
Speaker 8: try to brush it up under the rug. But you know,
Speaker 8: this doctor, this doctor be the beginning of something big.
Speaker 8: I think because this is the only this is the
Speaker 8: only description of the South. You know, on this level,
Speaker 8: you don't have nothing that ever been done on the South.
Speaker 8: And I think a large part of it didn't want
Speaker 8: to tell the story because then a lot of people
Speaker 8: had to give me too much credit, you feel me,
Speaker 8: and so you know, when you do that, then it'll
Speaker 8: be like, Okay, who the fuck was the part of this?
Speaker 1: And not telling these stories.
Speaker 7: I think because so much of the media was in
Speaker 7: New York back then, so that's who they documented as
Speaker 7: opposed to the Lukes that you made the prize?
Speaker 4: Did J Prince's the masterpiece?
Speaker 7: Like it wasn't until maybe early two thousands when you
Speaker 7: started seeing like the South really get his profits and honestly,
Speaker 7: probably because.
Speaker 1: Of cash money, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: And denial the numbers was too crazy.
Speaker 1: They numbers was crazy.
Speaker 8: I mean and just like you say they were, you know,
Speaker 8: when you see, I was never affiliated with a major label.
Speaker 1: Only one time I was affiliated with.
Speaker 8: Atlantic Records, and that kind of went bad because Sylvia
Speaker 8: Ron never embraced me, you know, and what we were
Speaker 8: doing as far as the label, and then we kind
Speaker 8: of jumped off of that real quick. But at the
Speaker 8: same time, so everybody got that big machine behind them,
Speaker 8: you know, I never had a big machine in which
Speaker 8: I was happy, you know at the time, because I
Speaker 8: got all the money, you feel me, I you know, shit,
Speaker 8: I we pressed the records and manufactured them and sent
Speaker 8: them out and we pretty much got all the money
Speaker 8: off of the records, and everybody.
Speaker 1: Kind of live good.
Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, you know, that's
Speaker 8: why it leads all the way up up to down
Speaker 8: that I can really tell them stories, you know, because
Speaker 8: a lot of people don't know a lot of people
Speaker 8: don't know my I had the first download record ever
Speaker 8: in the history when you look up the history books,
Speaker 8: which banned in the USA, and when I came up
Speaker 8: with the idea of letting every radio station play it
Speaker 8: on the fourth of July at the same time, and
Speaker 8: then you know, that's when I was with Atlantic and
Speaker 8: they downloaded the ship.
Speaker 1: I was like, how you mean download? You know? And
Speaker 1: I never even knew that existed.
Speaker 8: So it's a lot of different things you know that
Speaker 8: people don't know that, you know, through these projects that
Speaker 8: that I'm doing, that they'll get.
Speaker 4: The story to go to they gotta go more quicks.
Speaker 7: Why do you think they tried to ban what you
Speaker 7: was doing when literally all you was doing was making
Speaker 7: people dance, making people have sex. But you have all
Speaker 7: these artists who are killing people on records, selling drugs
Speaker 7: on records.
Speaker 4: I don't see nobody trying to band them. Why did
Speaker 4: they try to ban you?
Speaker 8: Well, I mean the thing is I was I was
Speaker 8: the first, you know what I'm saying. It was the
Speaker 8: first to cuss on the records, you know. But it
Speaker 8: was really it was really fun because we say, I
Speaker 8: looked at what everybody was doing everywhere else, what they
Speaker 8: was doing in Cali, what they was doing in New York,
Speaker 8: and you know, I was like, Okay, we ain't gonna
Speaker 8: sample James Brown.
Speaker 1: We can't be like somebody else. We gotta be like
Speaker 1: where we're from.
Speaker 8: A lot of people don't understand Miami is half naked
Speaker 8: people walking around everywhere, you know, strip clubs, naked. So
Speaker 8: so when when they came after us, it was because,
Speaker 8: you know, for a couple of reasons. Won the album covers.
Speaker 8: You know, they you know, they were exotic. Then the
Speaker 8: back of the album cover the titles were, you know,
Speaker 8: face down the ass up. Hey, he wants to puts
Speaker 8: me in all that. I do that because I had
Speaker 8: no money, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And uh, and I had no budget, you know.
Speaker 8: And so at the end of the day, when you
Speaker 8: looked at the music and when you when you listen
Speaker 8: to it, uh, then it started crossing over into white
Speaker 8: households and that became Then I became a target.
Speaker 1: Same time you had the music industry same way.
Speaker 8: You know, the music industry was against what I was
Speaker 8: doing because I was taking sales away from everybody else,
Speaker 8: you know, and then when you take sales away, then
Speaker 8: it's like, Okay, we gotta shut this motherfucker down. So
Speaker 8: then they send Tip of Gore our Gore's wife after me,
Speaker 8: you know, uh, and put me on this list. You know,
Speaker 8: they they tell George Lucas because at the time my
Speaker 8: name was Luke Skywalker Records.
Speaker 1: You gotta suit this motherfucker.
Speaker 8: So they were pulling me from all different angles, you know,
Speaker 8: how to pay him a big ass settlement Lucas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a big ass lawsuit with this motherfucker.
Speaker 8: That's why I don't look at No Star Wars right
Speaker 8: now the UK records did he sued me in and
Speaker 8: uh I had.
Speaker 1: To pay got them?
Speaker 3: Uh then you can tell us now right or now?
Speaker 1: It was a half a million dollars, you know.
Speaker 8: Uh back then, you know, and I kind of you
Speaker 8: know when I saw Kenny Skywalker, okay Looke Skywalker, you know,
Speaker 8: and this you ain't sue this motherus. So I had
Speaker 8: a whole bunch of shit that I was going through
Speaker 8: at the time. And again, you know, a lot of
Speaker 8: people think that it was one case. It was actually
Speaker 8: three cases. It was one the Royal Orpiser case. Uh,
Speaker 8: that went to the spring court.
Speaker 1: I won that. If I don't win that, you don't
Speaker 1: you know, there's the more satire, there's the more Saturday
Speaker 1: Night Live and none of that ship. You can't you know,
Speaker 1: make a joke about somebody.
Speaker 4: Then they had the uh oh so satire that was
Speaker 4: a satire case. That was a satire that didn't just
Speaker 4: change music that changed TV and the.
Speaker 8: Internet, because right now they used my case for any
Speaker 8: Internet claim, whether it's you know, uh, you know, uh,
Speaker 8: intellectual property, it became an intellectual property, uh satire case.
Speaker 1: And so when you had that ship going on, you know,
Speaker 1: now you know, I'm fighting this.
Speaker 8: I got to go get this this ruling overturn that
Speaker 8: the record is deemed I've seen by.
Speaker 1: This federal judge.
Speaker 8: And then I then say fuck him when we go
Speaker 8: down the street and perform, and then go to jail
Speaker 8: for it. So I got three cases going on at
Speaker 8: one time, plus you know, plus all the other shit
Speaker 8: happening around me trying to run a record company and
Speaker 8: all that. And that's why that's why, you know, I
Speaker 8: got really really really deep into the into the politics
Speaker 8: of it though, you know, and uh and seeing where.
Speaker 1: It was coming from.
Speaker 3: How much did you spend a lawyer fees back then?
Speaker 1: Oh shit, millions of dollars. But then the crazy part,
Speaker 1: I ain't had to do it. I wasn't going to jail,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 8: I knew the big picture, and the big picture it
Speaker 8: was really they was coming out to hip hop, you know,
Speaker 8: and they was coming out to me. Yeah, I was
Speaker 8: a part of the game because I was low hanging fruit.
Speaker 8: I'm not affiliated with a major label, because I'm sitting
Speaker 8: there like, motherfucker Andrew Dice Clay saying work shit than
Speaker 8: me on the record, but he's on this label here.
Speaker 8: So you start putting two and two together and all that,
Speaker 8: and before you know it, you know, you see how
Speaker 8: that ship is played out.
Speaker 2: Crazy because you said what you did is really to
Speaker 2: fight for hip hop for the next artist, but the
Speaker 2: artists didn't support you at all. All hip hop artists
Speaker 2: basically said fuck you. But you still knew the bigger picture.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I looked at it from a bigger picture standpoint
Speaker 8: because I know, all right, these motherfuckers stupid right now,
Speaker 8: you know, the industry is.
Speaker 1: Not supporting me. You know. I remember going to the
Speaker 1: Grammys and they was like.
Speaker 8: We want you to go to the Grammys and everything,
Speaker 8: and we're gonna celebrate your fight for free speech and
Speaker 8: all this shit.
Speaker 1: And I go there, I sit down on the third
Speaker 1: row and they man start having this big.
Speaker 8: Speech by you know, artists being attacked and we're fighting,
Speaker 8: you know, we're supporting all this and everything, you know,
Speaker 8: our artists for free expression and everything. And right now,
Speaker 8: we want to honor a person who's out there on
Speaker 8: the road doing it every night.
Speaker 1: Madonna. I ain't never went back to fucking Grammys.
Speaker 8: This was the last time when you know, celebration of
Speaker 8: the fifty I went back there. They said that ship.
Speaker 8: I was like, I don't walked up.
Speaker 1: In there with my ship on. They taking the pictures
Speaker 1: and all that. No, that that it was crazy, man.
Speaker 8: But but again that that's why I got so deep
Speaker 8: into fucking politics, man, because I know everything is political.
Speaker 7: I'd love to see that genre of bass music come back.
Speaker 7: There's a couple of artists that's that's doing it a
Speaker 7: little bit. And I saw that you was in the
Speaker 7: studio with Karsha.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's bringing it back. She's bringing
Speaker 8: it back. I mean, it's soon that that we did together.
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, because I don't go in the
Speaker 8: studio for no fucking body. I mean people call me
Speaker 8: all the time, you know, go and sample the ship,
Speaker 8: you know, so you know, only two people could get
Speaker 8: me in there, Missy. I went in there with her,
Speaker 8: uh before COVID and then with Kresha, you know, and uh,
Speaker 8: you know, I heard the track and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 8: I could fuck with that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And we went in there and not that out, real,
Speaker 1: real easy.
Speaker 8: I think it's gonna be a big summer club banger
Speaker 8: and everything. I'm looking forward to people listening to it.
Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 7: Never told now they should build a statue of Uncle
Speaker 7: Luke in every major hip hop city.
Speaker 4: I'm not you of joking New York, l A.
Speaker 1: Do I get to have a Jenitalor's hanging?
Speaker 3: No, you know what, Nikki Bob, Uncle Luke. It's the
Speaker 3: Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Good morning, wake till ass up in the morning. The
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club.