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Speaker 1: first time I have an interior designer on my show,
Speaker 1: and I'm one of these people, and I share you
Speaker 1: some of my interior designer story. I think I'm pretty good,
Speaker 1: but you know, I have a weird way of doing it.
Speaker 1: Is if with expertise is spanning into kitchens, bathrooms, renovations, art, art, consentation,
Speaker 1: and writing, Please welcome the money making conversation. Master class
Speaker 1: the One and Only Melody Vonne. How you doing, Melodie.
Speaker 2: Wow, what a great intro. I appreciate that. I am wonderful.
Speaker 2: And by the way, as an interior designer, I can
Speaker 2: often tell persons decor by their wardrobe. And you're quite spiffy, sir, Well,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm one of these people. When I cook in the kitchen,
Speaker 1: I clean as I go. So so if you if
Speaker 1: you can take that away from my look, I'm a
Speaker 1: guy who will undergo my car is clean. Know they're
Speaker 1: throwing trash in the back seat or the astray got
Speaker 1: no clean as I go. And I think that when
Speaker 1: I when I when my whole thing that I'm a
Speaker 1: visual person and I'm listening, I'm talking to an expert
Speaker 1: in that tearing design. So now I can talk about
Speaker 1: what I see, love it. And so when I go
Speaker 1: into a room, I just I just start visualizing yep,
Speaker 1: that space. Talk about how you go about doing it?
Speaker 2: Wow, Well, I tell you to me. Homes are living beings.
Speaker 2: Homes have heartbeats, they have rhythm. And when I go
Speaker 2: into a space, I see the potential in it. I
Speaker 2: look at from a I incorporate functue. So I always
Speaker 2: look for Functual is an Asian form of incorporating design.
Speaker 2: It's called a bogwad. Every corner has a purpose, your
Speaker 2: prosperity corner, your family corner, et cetera, and so forth.
Speaker 2: But I incorporate a little bit of all of those
Speaker 2: spiritualities and consciousness into design. But I go from a
Speaker 2: practical standpoint being who lives here, how's this space going
Speaker 2: to be functioned? What color? Exuberant? Certain energies like blue
Speaker 2: is calming and green is prosperity, and so all of
Speaker 2: those kind of tie into Hey, I'm not mad at
Speaker 2: a red room. That's energy, exciting, passion, love, Hey listen
Speaker 2: what room.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't walk in a black room?
Speaker 2: Or you know what, it's more so the purpose in
Speaker 2: what you're entering the room. Okay, so if you're going
Speaker 2: into a bedroom and you want to relax, then you
Speaker 2: want to be aware of certain colors that are more energetic,
Speaker 2: like a bright yellow or bright orange. So what your purpose?
Speaker 2: That's not relax that's not a relaxing that's the energy
Speaker 2: that's energetic. Yeah, I know. Color is power and spiriture placement,
Speaker 2: how rhythms flow, and how the air flows throughout a room.
Speaker 3: All of that.
Speaker 2: Really, that's what design is all about, color theory, space planning,
Speaker 2: that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: So how did the academic wise? What did you do
Speaker 1: in college? Is that what you did in college?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: So I attempted my school journey HBCU, FAM shout out.
Speaker 3: I was one of the.
Speaker 2: Orange and green, Orange and green, which are very strong
Speaker 2: colors prosperity and happiness. But yeah, I attended FAM and
Speaker 2: hung out there, one of those I'm a ratler heart,
Speaker 2: never quite graduating, but listen, I'm a rattler baby, and
Speaker 2: my purpose was public relations and journalism. But I got
Speaker 2: caught up into the work world and moved to Atlanta
Speaker 2: and was a manager for the Gap, which I's didn't
Speaker 2: really mentioned, and got into the art world, did some
Speaker 2: volunteering at the Apex, and did some corporate did the
Speaker 2: art world and the art world does well. I was
Speaker 2: a docent at the Apex Museum. Sending love to Dan
Speaker 2: Moore who was recently transitioned. But the Apex Museum was
Speaker 2: my first introduction into art on the Atlanta scene.
Speaker 1: Because your college was writing college, yep, and.
Speaker 2: Then Atlanta was the art Listen I journal even now
Speaker 2: I have been working on a book for a minute.
Speaker 2: I think we are. We all have a story to tell.
Speaker 2: And what I like to do in my writing is
Speaker 2: share what I know with the world. I at one
Speaker 2: point wrote for Rolling Out there was a segment called
Speaker 2: space Invasions, and I would share trends about what the
Speaker 2: current trends are in the design world and how best
Speaker 2: to utilize in terior designers. So I did Space Invasions
Speaker 2: with Rolling Out under Munth's insteed for about three or
Speaker 2: four years, and hopefully you do something. I'm working on
Speaker 2: a couple other type of so you know.
Speaker 1: When you talk about, you know, writing with AI coming
Speaker 1: out now, yeah, yeah, you know, like this young lady
Speaker 1: I think recently she used grammarly for her for her
Speaker 1: report and she got kicked out of school because of Grammarly.
Speaker 1: And I used Grammarly for corrections. Yeah, and and the
Speaker 1: professor said she was cheating, right, So and then I
Speaker 1: remember they said that you know that Sports Illustrated I
Speaker 1: believe was using AI AI. Yeah a lot of the articles.
Speaker 1: Now when you hear that and you're a writer, yeah,
Speaker 1: are you mad?
Speaker 2: Not at all? I'm like, help me in truth, I
Speaker 2: tell you, even AI when it relates to design. First
Speaker 2: of all, you have to tell AI what you want,
Speaker 2: so there's that. And then second, when it comes to design,
Speaker 2: you can source renderings, you can source design concepts, but
Speaker 2: you still need a human being to do the logistics,
Speaker 2: to actually install, to do the work behind the renderings
Speaker 2: or the design concepts. And when it comes to writing, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think these on some levels we're getting away from
Speaker 2: what we've done as far as sourcing for writing materials.
Speaker 2: But I think also AI is sharpening the writing skills
Speaker 2: because if you write something and you're using the wrong
Speaker 2: terms addiction AI.
Speaker 1: Definitely because I'm gonna tell you it helps me because
Speaker 1: I'm always communicating, I'm always emailing individuals, and Grammarly it
Speaker 1: helps me out knowing that my letter structure typos it
Speaker 1: catches a lot of type exactly. You know a lot
Speaker 1: of people send you emails. Please excuse my dipos you know, well,
Speaker 1: hopefully GRAMDMA and fixing that catch it. I don't excuse
Speaker 1: nothing over here, I hoping them. So you send a
Speaker 1: structure only through Grammarly. And so in the design world,
Speaker 1: you like I said, you your Radlett Hall. Yeah, journalism
Speaker 1: moved to Atlanta. Yeah, Okay, we steal this whole sign brown.
Speaker 1: Where did this come from?
Speaker 2: No, Well, my father was a landscaper. I was born
Speaker 2: in New York but grew up in Florida. Okay, so
Speaker 2: in moving to Florida, my father's only job really he
Speaker 2: could get would be cutting grass in the landscape, and
Speaker 2: he took that and created a company, Lost and Brown
Speaker 2: Landscape And would go to these huge homes. I as
Speaker 2: a child would sneak in and see how beautiful they
Speaker 2: would to be designed, and I would run home and
Speaker 2: kind of try to recreate it right. And I always
Speaker 2: had that little love for design, but never really gave
Speaker 2: it a title because I never saw anybody of color
Speaker 2: doing interior design. The first black interior designer in the
Speaker 2: Florida area was Cecil Hayes, and she was out of
Speaker 2: the Fort Ladder to Miami. She did a lot of
Speaker 2: the Superstar homes and then in New York. The brother
Speaker 2: who actually started the movement for interior designer was based
Speaker 2: out of New York and d C just an average Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm an interior designer and I'm a person of color.
Speaker 2: I didn't see that growing up, so I didn't know
Speaker 2: it was possible. It wasn't until life shifts changing from
Speaker 2: corporate America because I was working with ge and got
Speaker 2: laid off, went to a divorce, all of this happening,
Speaker 2: and I came back what brings me joy? And that's
Speaker 2: when I sat still and I realized that design was
Speaker 2: my heart.
Speaker 1: You said a lot there. That was about twenty years
Speaker 1: worth of college. Yeah, got it.
Speaker 2: Up.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna slow you down. You were not going to
Speaker 1: do my show life this short. Just shut my show
Speaker 1: L O L and l A L. Hey, you know
Speaker 1: when I when I when I want to go back
Speaker 1: for a mate. When you was talking about going to
Speaker 1: these homes. I remember in high school, my friends was going.
Speaker 1: I lit my little beat up little car and we
Speaker 1: should go in all these neighborhoods that we couldn't afford,
Speaker 1: and I would just see how. I would just see
Speaker 1: yard designs and just see and that really stayed with me,
Speaker 1: you know, and I always would recommend people. You know,
Speaker 1: you can't you can't have a dream if you don't
Speaker 1: know where to start exactly, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And so that was my starting point seeing things. That's
Speaker 1: what is your dream? I always tell people, you don't
Speaker 1: have a dream unless you have a starting point or
Speaker 1: a goal. And so early on my dream was I
Speaker 1: would I would look at car magazines and look at
Speaker 1: these different cars that I could afford. And I like
Speaker 1: to believe that those cars I saw in high school,
Speaker 1: I'm driving today and the same thing. And I think
Speaker 1: that when I look at the homes that I see
Speaker 1: out there, it's been blessed in my life because I
Speaker 1: had a goal in high school and I was driving,
Speaker 1: and I remember police would run me out of the
Speaker 1: neighborhood while you're over here, because with all those memories,
Speaker 1: and I would look at you know, ornings I look
Speaker 1: at the edges. I look at the edges and all
Speaker 1: that stuff, and it really really is what my foundation is,
Speaker 1: the setting goals for my personal life.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Totally? Totally? And you hit on something as far as
Speaker 2: the rooflines and the angles. I always it's like a
Speaker 2: gentleman's suit. The certain cuts and the angles on a
Speaker 2: suit is how the actual home structure. And you also
Speaker 2: mentioned seeing it and then now you're living it. Vision
Speaker 2: boards and that's, you know, from a spiritual standpoint, people
Speaker 2: talk about vision boards right cut it out, and that's
Speaker 2: what you, well, you're triggering your mind that this is
Speaker 2: what I want to achieve. And if you don't have
Speaker 2: a goal or something to move towards, then it's hard
Speaker 2: to actually achieve it. That's where design concepts come in.
Speaker 2: As a designer person, I don't know what I like. Well, here,
Speaker 2: let's do some Let's create a Pinterest board or give
Speaker 2: me some of your color, your favorite colors. Let me
Speaker 2: create a rendering or design kind and then we'll build
Speaker 2: from that. So it's the same thing. You have an
Speaker 2: empty shell of a room and then now this is
Speaker 2: your CELFA, this is your LFE picture, and all these
Speaker 2: other elements and create that story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, cause I really want to. My show
Speaker 1: was really dedicated to AI, to that because of the
Speaker 1: fact that I think it's a term out that's being
Speaker 1: used to scare people, because I always tell people, if
Speaker 1: you type in where's my where's my favorite dog food
Speaker 1: store press enter, that's AI. Yeah, okay, yes, any GPS
Speaker 1: system is AI. Yes, okay. When you when you when
Speaker 1: you sit down and you like you said, you know,
Speaker 1: you look at any home designer show, they just show
Speaker 1: you these little movement the chair comes in walls and
Speaker 1: so you are saying early on, you would bringing the
Speaker 1: home baby, bringing on you know, because I think that
Speaker 1: in life were all moving so fast. We need that
Speaker 1: creative source versus sitting around trying to put themsel something
Speaker 1: in black and white, hold it up up and writing
Speaker 1: someone hold it up. Life doesn't work like that.
Speaker 2: Correct, correct, one hundred percent and one thing. I you know,
Speaker 2: I'm one of those persons where I'm like, if this
Speaker 2: is what I have, bring it on and then let
Speaker 2: me work with it. To me, AI, artificial intelligence is
Speaker 2: a jewel. We just have to learn how to let
Speaker 2: it work with us versus working against us.
Speaker 1: Okay, see my question talking to the jewel. How did
Speaker 1: you get into interior designs?
Speaker 2: I heard the day?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ma, did two kids move back? I'm here? Okay,
Speaker 1: Now how did you like? Friend you? Rattler didn't finished
Speaker 1: Atlanta brought you here? How did you get into interior doesness?
Speaker 2: Wow? Well, truth be told. My girlfriends would always call
Speaker 2: me over to their homes because they know I would
Speaker 2: sit there and say can I do this? And I
Speaker 2: would move the furniture around. So I've always done it.
Speaker 2: How do I make it a career? I got a
Speaker 2: business card, I started taking classes. I went back to
Speaker 2: school and became a licensed certified and terror designer.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: And I knew that it was a thing because well,
Speaker 2: when I got laid off, I took a maus Bridge
Speaker 2: test and it said that I was a business person
Speaker 2: and very creative. I'm gonna bring them together, and I
Speaker 2: from that point said I need school. So I went
Speaker 2: back and got my certification design. It was a two
Speaker 2: year window. But I'm continued like a millennial before millennial, okay,
Speaker 2: but I'm continuously going. Education is key. Though I didn't
Speaker 2: Clark Atlanta HBCU. I have more certifications than so many
Speaker 2: different arenas.
Speaker 1: They called me to go to break. When we come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna learn more about my millennial friend here. You
Speaker 1: know she started millennials.
Speaker 3: She gave me.
Speaker 1: This is the one who hell up the care. You
Speaker 1: don't have to finish in four years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, start your life in two.
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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Melanievond Melody Bond in regards to interior design, renovation,
Speaker 1: art consultation. But just start the side of the show off.
Speaker 1: I was once living in one of my houses with
Speaker 1: my wife and I loved it, and then one day,
Speaker 1: over a period of time, I didn't like the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, this is that normally totally completely, and it's
Speaker 2: also honest because oftentimes people are in beautiful spaces and
Speaker 2: there's no need to shift. There's no need to buy
Speaker 2: a new sofa or buy anything new or paint because
Speaker 2: everything's perfect. But you've changed. So just like your skin
Speaker 2: sheds at seven years, your home to core and the
Speaker 2: energy of your home changes. And what I first recommend
Speaker 2: is move the furniture around a little bit at a minimum,
Speaker 2: paint the walls. But it's time to just kind of
Speaker 2: stir up that energy again and make a shift. Your
Speaker 2: your needs may be different, whereas before you might have
Speaker 2: not socialized, and now you want to have more cocktail gatherings,
Speaker 2: or you have grandkids versus your children coming back from college.
Speaker 1: So that's all mean I want.
Speaker 2: I just want to feel relaxed, relaxed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, somehow I was walking into that house
Speaker 1: and I wasn't relaxing anymore. Yeah, so I found I
Speaker 1: actually find my little zenz spaces. Yeah, and I couldn't
Speaker 1: find them anymore or it felt either go upstairs to
Speaker 1: find yeah, you know what I'm saying, to go upstairs
Speaker 1: to find that zin spot. And so because because as
Speaker 1: you get older, you physically change, you don't feel like
Speaker 1: putting forth effort to do anything. So it's someone like
Speaker 1: you want to to meet. Yep, I just want to
Speaker 1: come in the house during that walking my door falling.
Speaker 2: Baby, Yep, you know what I'm saying. You know, I
Speaker 2: totally do.
Speaker 1: But they got to be in the kitchen to be
Speaker 1: next to the bathroom almost with a cruise ship cap.
Speaker 2: Yes, well you know what COVID did that to a
Speaker 2: lot of us though it changed the way we live,
Speaker 2: so a lot of you know, during COVID, I did
Speaker 2: more uh school, living room, dining room setups. But you
Speaker 2: are one hundred percent correct in that you feel different
Speaker 2: in your space, and it is time to hire and
Speaker 2: TIERR designer.
Speaker 1: That's where you from. I see a lot of advertising
Speaker 1: on TV about these walking in the targets, opened the door,
Speaker 1: shut the door, you sit down, that you're in the tube?
Speaker 1: Is that all those of us as popular as they
Speaker 1: say they are.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's an advertisement, So let's let's
Speaker 2: go there first. Actually, the biggest trend now are curbless showers,
Speaker 2: curbless bathrooms, wet rooms where there's literally no separation between
Speaker 2: the shower, the the free standing tub and the toilet area.
Speaker 2: It's like one open space. And that's the direction a
Speaker 2: lot of homes are going to because we are living
Speaker 2: longer and we're needing that type of environment. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: we're living volunteer and nineties and doing it cute. But
Speaker 2: that's one of the big trends. And those walking you know,
Speaker 2: we can revamp your bathroom. Yeah that's possible, but trust
Speaker 2: and believe in another five years you may need to
Speaker 2: do it again, just because and for those who have it,
Speaker 2: it's a great whoever thought of that idea koodles to
Speaker 2: them because they're trillionaires at this point. But the true
Speaker 2: trend and the true lifestyle change in bathrooms is a
Speaker 2: full fully tiled it's called curve liss a frameless bathroom.
Speaker 1: Right now, your father did landscape and that was a landscape.
Speaker 1: Now you know, when we about to sell the house,
Speaker 1: they always have the well landscape that they're ups your value.
Speaker 1: Do the kitchen or do the bathroom? What ups the
Speaker 1: value of a house if you're trying to sell.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you asked that because I'm actually in
Speaker 2: conversation with someone who's about to sell a five million
Speaker 2: hour house and I'm like, you gotta stage it. But
Speaker 2: the true values of homes now, Staging means creating an environment,
Speaker 2: creating a designed core that anyone can say, oh I
Speaker 2: could live here, meaning very neutral sofas, separate or acknowledging
Speaker 2: the space, how large it is, how it can be functioned,
Speaker 2: how it can be used, furniture, artwork, et cetera. But
Speaker 2: the value comes in hardwood floors for resale. Even though
Speaker 2: vinyl are the rave, but viyl vinyl floors are they
Speaker 2: are giving rage. Trust me, all of these condos throughout Atlanta,
Speaker 2: hardwood floors you're using a lot of those are made
Speaker 2: up of vinyl flooring or engineer flooring.
Speaker 1: Okay, did you just put down now?
Speaker 2: Vinyl has come a long way, baby, it's called luxury vinyl.
Speaker 2: Plane that rolled out. No, there's strips. They look like heartwood.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: I got to get him into Florida Core. And yes,
Speaker 2: and by the way, I'm a senior designer at Florida
Speaker 2: Core as well. In Bucket. Okay, it's the design studio.
Speaker 2: I had to give you some love.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So we're real cute. So you come in, you won't
Speaker 2: get dusty. You have something to drink, and you look
Speaker 2: at the beautiful tile.
Speaker 1: Okay, because that vinyl. Okay, but from a.
Speaker 2: Resale perspective, heartwood still number one.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Kitchen and bath okay. And landscape okay, let's go to
Speaker 2: the kitchen.
Speaker 1: What do I have to do in the kitchen? Make
Speaker 1: that pop?
Speaker 2: Beautiful solid surface countertop be it Cambria, which is a brand,
Speaker 2: but any solid surface really light veins, but even some
Speaker 2: dark like concretes are really sexy. Right now for countertops
Speaker 2: concrete concrete, so grant is out. Granted is easing out concrete.
Speaker 1: It absorbs water.
Speaker 2: I know, but it's very back to what's happening. It's
Speaker 2: a no you put a ceilant over it, and it's
Speaker 2: great for baking. So multi countertop options, but size.
Speaker 1: Does to seal it sustain the heat.
Speaker 2: It does. Yeah, concrete countertops are kind of the rave, however,
Speaker 2: for a that's for a more modern or more loft
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of all these loft apartments that Atlanta has
Speaker 2: somehow gotten, but from a tradition. From a traditional standpoint,
Speaker 2: I am a quartz girl. I love a solid surface,
Speaker 2: a quartz or a quartz. Night stone, granted is still
Speaker 2: number one because it's kind of affordable, but it's porous,
Speaker 2: so you really should seal it at least once a
Speaker 2: year so that you won't get those stains in it.
Speaker 2: But everybody you know, granted go to You can't go
Speaker 2: wrong with a granite but as he dances, But my
Speaker 2: favorite is a court so that so.
Speaker 1: That so so really you've shot your board down with
Speaker 1: the vinyl cow the viol floor and not a granite countertop. Okay,
Speaker 1: I know that's the relationship is still strong. They go
Speaker 1: to the restroom the back. Yeah, what what what do
Speaker 1: I have to do to make that pop?
Speaker 4: Tile?
Speaker 2: Til? My favorite is marble, but marble requires a little
Speaker 2: bit of maintenance. A little bit of ceiling, but large
Speaker 2: format tiles which can be used for countertops and for
Speaker 2: a floor you ever go into, like Sacks or Bloomingdale's
Speaker 2: those beautiful floors. That's porcelain tile. Okay, so porcelain tile
Speaker 2: throughout the entire home, as well as every wall in
Speaker 2: the bathroom. Okay, til it up. Oh gorgeous.
Speaker 1: So no whirlpool baths, so no, we're more.
Speaker 2: Into like the suckers, the sunken curved what type of
Speaker 2: curveless curveless bathroom?
Speaker 1: Walking down? You just shower, shower heads, a bench, your
Speaker 1: wife because.
Speaker 2: You shower, No way, and that's where design comes from,
Speaker 2: because my job would be to make sure the water
Speaker 2: flow is appropriate. So no one gets what not the homeboy?
Speaker 1: That's your oh white complaining. I'm with when you stop.
Speaker 2: Look in bathrooms. Now you've got TVs. You have speakers
Speaker 2: in the light fixtures.
Speaker 1: Oh we got a call here? Is that Barbara in
Speaker 1: New York?
Speaker 2: Is that hello?
Speaker 1: Okay? We can keep talking?
Speaker 4: Is it? Oh? No?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: Cool?
Speaker 1: Barbara from New York? Barbara?
Speaker 3: Yes, how are you doing?
Speaker 1: You have a question? Here is Rishon McDonald speaking alone
Speaker 1: with Ms Vaughan. How you doing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have a question, but I have a
Speaker 3: comment to me.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: I know Melody Vaughan. She was a colleague of mine
Speaker 3: in New York, Okay, and I can tell you that
Speaker 3: she is one of the best designers that on the
Speaker 3: East Coast.
Speaker 2: She is very.
Speaker 3: She keeps it kind of together and quiet and on
Speaker 3: the down low. But her talent and her renown throughout
Speaker 3: New York and Brooklyn was huge, and we were very,
Speaker 3: very sorry to see her go back to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna just tell you this, Barbara. She told
Speaker 1: her she ran through her story so fast. I didn't
Speaker 1: even know she came from New York. She didn't say
Speaker 1: nothing about New York. All I knew was fam you
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. New York never popped up.
Speaker 2: We talked about it.
Speaker 1: This is the story we talked off air. We said nothing.
Speaker 1: See now, I know with guests like her, Barbara, we
Speaker 1: got to keep all our conversations on air. She went YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: Dad was a landscaper and then I started doing pools, Barbara, Barbara,
Speaker 1: I needed this call to really amplified somebody. Let us
Speaker 1: know that I have a superstar on the call.
Speaker 3: Here have a superstar. Thank you, thank you for one
Speaker 3: of the founding members of the Bad Guild, the Black
Speaker 3: Artists and Designers, which is a worldwide organization, and she
Speaker 3: was one of the designers that kicked it off.
Speaker 1: Barbara. Okay, Barbara, she's embarrassing her. You know she can't
Speaker 1: turn red, but she's trying. She trying. So Barbara, thank
Speaker 1: you for all this extra information. But you need to
Speaker 1: call early in the show because you can't call them
Speaker 1: when you show about the okay o train. I got
Speaker 1: to train the people call for you. You know, she
Speaker 1: she's ready to call. So fine, Thank you, Barber from
Speaker 1: New York. Appreciate you. She's fantastic. But you know those
Speaker 1: those the whole purpose of money making conversations, master classes
Speaker 1: that you are an individual to bring on the show
Speaker 1: a new superstars, and I try to create a platform
Speaker 1: to let your story because it resonates because it's a
Speaker 1: lot of Barberas who are been mentored, who work with
Speaker 1: individuals like you. And you don't know your value till
Speaker 1: you hear from That's what that's what. That's what all
Speaker 1: commercials are. They're just bragging about cars, bragging about the
Speaker 1: best chicken, bragging about the Hamburgers all that stuff. So
Speaker 1: I always tell people, you got to learn how to brag.
Speaker 1: The original bragger with Muhammad al Lee say that he
Speaker 1: was the regular brand. The prime time is the new original.
Speaker 1: And so you know, I got a great book out
Speaker 1: right now came I believe in March twelve. But the
Speaker 1: thing I always tell you and individuals like you, is
Speaker 1: that the blessings that you bring to the table have
Speaker 1: to be shared in or to be for you to
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Because you don't appreciate it, then you don't
Speaker 1: understand your value. And I always tell people your value
Speaker 1: or your cost, because you know you have a ferd
Speaker 1: and fee you charge and you know you get there.
Speaker 1: You have a resume. Yeah, but tend when it comes
Speaker 1: to personal value, we bush that resume their aside. And
Speaker 1: that happens a lot in the black community. White people
Speaker 1: don't do that.
Speaker 2: They tell everybody, everybody exactly people that's bragging. I know,
Speaker 2: you know, to kind of piggyback that, and I know
Speaker 2: we gotta jump off. I joined the National Association for
Speaker 2: Black Women in Construction, okay, and that has been life
Speaker 2: changing for me. These women are building not just homes,
Speaker 2: but they're building institutions. We have black women in construction
Speaker 2: and National Association.
Speaker 1: Good right, So it means you got I know what
Speaker 1: you're doing coming back, So you're gonna come back on
Speaker 1: my show. I think, yes, we're doing this. She's a
Speaker 1: fantastic guess. She's one of the bands. According to Barbara
Speaker 1: in Harlem. She has two kids, their sons them Women's Syracuse.
Speaker 1: She's doing the thing. Used to work for a depot.
Speaker 1: But when we tell that story publicly, thank you for
Speaker 1: coming on with Joe.
Speaker 2: Thank you such a blessing, and thank you for all
Speaker 2: that you do, and congratulations to this fiftieth and I
Speaker 2: love it. I think w C Okay is definitely a
Speaker 2: part of my soul.
Speaker 1: Yes, my soul. They let me come on the airby
Speaker 1: Tuesday to talk to people like you, which is a lesson.
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