Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning.
Speaker 3: Everybody's Steve, j Envy, Jesse, Larry Show, I mean the
Speaker 3: guy we are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: We got a special guest in.
Speaker 3: The buildings and out right now. Not now I'm busy,
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen joining Lucas.
Speaker 1: How you feeling I'm good man, You good?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 1: How y'all feeling good?
Speaker 2: Products going on in your life? The girls?
Speaker 4: So that's so good.
Speaker 2: Not now I'm busy, man, tell me about that album title.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's just not now I'm busy. It's really
Speaker 5: you know, the space that you know, I've been in
Speaker 5: my life for the last couple of years, you know,
Speaker 5: just really not having you know, really not having time,
Speaker 5: you know, for a lot of things that are even important.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. So just trying to balance everything.
Speaker 5: And there's also a double message if you listen to
Speaker 5: the album as well, about you know me, you know,
Speaker 5: killing my own self to become the new, the new
Speaker 5: you know version of myself that I am today.
Speaker 6: Now let's talk that title though, when a lot of
Speaker 6: people say staying busy is a response to unresolved trauma,
Speaker 6: So are you really busy, Are you trying to avoid something?
Speaker 5: I think that's I think I think that sounds pretty accurate,
Speaker 5: to be honest with you, I think it's a little
Speaker 5: bit of both as far as like really being busy
Speaker 5: for sure, and then you know, a response to unresolved
Speaker 5: trauma for sure.
Speaker 3: Now your albums, your videos and the stuff that you
Speaker 3: put out, you think about it before you put it out, right,
Speaker 3: you're just not doing a record. It's like it's almost
Speaker 3: like the music you're putting out is intentional to to help.
Speaker 2: Where does that come from? Because you know, watching.
Speaker 3: Your videos, it's like it's the movies. They're self movies,
Speaker 3: but they always have a message like it's meaningful.
Speaker 5: I think, honestly, I think it's beyond me. I think that,
Speaker 5: you know, when I create these records, I think that
Speaker 5: every when I'm writing it, I feel like I'm channeling
Speaker 5: like something greater than me, a higher power or something
Speaker 5: that's like helping me write these records for me to
Speaker 5: be able to tap into, you know, to talk about
Speaker 5: some of these things that I talk about, you know,
Speaker 5: like with the record I just released Best for Me,
Speaker 5: you know, general shout out to my brother Jelly Ro.
Speaker 5: I've never been addicted to, you know, drugs, but somehow
Speaker 5: I was able to write from a perspective of that
Speaker 5: as if I was, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 5: same thing with you know, I'm not racist, you know,
Speaker 5: same thing with I'm sorry or any of the other
Speaker 5: records that touch on suicide or you know, touching on
Speaker 5: other things that I'm channeling something greater than me that's
Speaker 5: helping me create these records. I don't know how what,
Speaker 5: but I know that I'm getting some type of help
Speaker 5: from the higher power that's helping me create these records
Speaker 5: and to channel those actual emotions.
Speaker 4: You know, on the concepts of some of those records.
Speaker 7: And you're also helping other people too, like because if
Speaker 7: you're able to speak to something that you've never even experienced,
Speaker 7: and you feel like you're like you're kind of being
Speaker 7: used as a you know, a messenger for things, like
Speaker 7: you actually are hailing people as well. And it's been
Speaker 7: like a four year gap since ADHD you know you
Speaker 7: dropped that twenty twenty. Is that why it was such
Speaker 7: a gap, because you were because this is not now
Speaker 7: I'm busy, But what what did the gap come from?
Speaker 8: You going through certain things?
Speaker 2: What I think.
Speaker 5: In between that, you know, really finding myself because this
Speaker 5: is the first time that I've ever been able to
Speaker 5: kind of relax and not be put in survival mode,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So it's like, this is
Speaker 5: the first time I've ever not you know, the first
Speaker 5: time I haven't been in survival mode, you know, financially
Speaker 5: me a financial you know, survival mode where I'm actually
Speaker 5: you know, able to try to find myself, you know,
Speaker 5: because up until then, I didn't really know who I
Speaker 5: was as a person, because it's like I was always
Speaker 5: sidetracked by survival mode, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 5: it's like, once I had the financial stresses tookn off
Speaker 5: me and I was able to take a step back
Speaker 5: and get to kind of, you know, know myself. You know,
Speaker 5: I started really going through stuff, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: and I started to learn more about me and you know,
Speaker 5: just as a person, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 5: a lot of those things kind of shape me into
Speaker 5: who I am today.
Speaker 2: Pause I was gonna was that a pause?
Speaker 6: I didn't catch the pause that one, and I got
Speaker 6: gay to go back and go back and.
Speaker 2: Shape them.
Speaker 3: But deeper, I was gonna ask, you know, listening to
Speaker 3: your project and over the years and watching your videos, right,
Speaker 3: mm hmmm, and lyrically you get busy, dead nice, right,
Speaker 3: whether it's a song that's helping people, are you just
Speaker 3: on some street ship. I started thinking of it day.
Speaker 3: I'm like, why would we have those conversations, right, and
Speaker 3: we talk about the j Coles, and we talk about
Speaker 3: the Kendricks, and we talk about the Drakes. Why don't
Speaker 3: they ever talk about joining Lucas in those same conversations Because.
Speaker 2: You get busy and lyrically you're a problem.
Speaker 3: And I think everybody would say that, But when we
Speaker 3: have those discussions and conversations, they don't necessarily mention, So
Speaker 3: it's up.
Speaker 5: But sort of interesting thing about that is there's two
Speaker 5: parts of that question. Number One, I think that any
Speaker 5: of those artists that you name got like ten years
Speaker 5: on me. Drake was in the game ten years before
Speaker 5: I came in the game. Kendrick was gotten a game
Speaker 5: to like at least seven eight years before I got
Speaker 5: in the game. J Cole's been in the game about
Speaker 5: seven eight years, but he came in when Kendick came
Speaker 5: in post And.
Speaker 4: That's number one. Number two.
Speaker 5: I am in those conversations when you're talking to people
Speaker 5: like you know, Marshall, he's talking to Eminem. You know,
Speaker 5: he always mentions me. You know, he puts me right
Speaker 5: next to them. He always talks about you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. Even in the records, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: It'll be like, you know his favorite artist is you know,
Speaker 5: sometimes he even thought my name first. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Joiner, Cole Kendrick, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And he has you know he it definitely acknowledges that,
Speaker 5: and and you know he's in my mind, you know,
Speaker 5: he's considered you know, one of the greatest, if not
Speaker 5: the greatest. So if I'm getting if that guy is
Speaker 5: saying those things, and you know, then I guess that
Speaker 5: means that stand for some right mean some. So I
Speaker 5: don't really Apart from that, I don't really care. Like
Speaker 5: if I mentioned with you know, those guys, I don't
Speaker 5: think I have enough time in yet they have more
Speaker 5: time than I do, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 5: I haven't even had the time that they have to
Speaker 5: That's all.
Speaker 6: You know, you talked about, you know, killing yourself on
Speaker 6: the album what is the significance of you killing the
Speaker 6: old version of yourself at the end of the album.
Speaker 5: Well, the significance of it is, you know, the old
Speaker 5: I like to say that a lot of people, a
Speaker 5: lot of people that have a revelation, you know, and
Speaker 5: they tend to grow pause.
Speaker 4: You know. I would say.
Speaker 5: That they're enlightened, you know, by their experiences of life,
Speaker 5: and that causes them to become a different person in
Speaker 5: a positive way, right. And I would say that through
Speaker 5: my experiences and the traumas and things that I've been through,
Speaker 5: actually created the reverse effect and made it so that
Speaker 5: I'm growing in more of a negative way, right, not
Speaker 5: even by choices, Like because of the traumas and things
Speaker 5: that I've been through, I'm no longer you know, susceptible
Speaker 5: to being a nice guy.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm no longer bubbly, I'm no longer you know.
Speaker 5: As positive as I used to be, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. So it's like, you know, due to my traumas,
Speaker 5: I've grown into you know, a different version of myself that.
Speaker 4: I feel like.
Speaker 5: Maybe a trauma response in which Charlemagne said, you feel me?
Speaker 5: So I had to kill off, you know, in order
Speaker 5: for me to to grow in my own ways. Pause,
Speaker 5: I had to kill off that version of myself because
Speaker 5: that version of myself got used, you know, that version
Speaker 5: of myself people took advantage of.
Speaker 4: You feel me.
Speaker 5: So it's like, you know, the new person that I
Speaker 5: am today is no longer susceptible to those things, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Did you have to write that figuratively so you didn't
Speaker 2: do that literally?
Speaker 6: Like did you have to write about feeling yourself off
Speaker 6: so you didn't actually do it?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: No, I ain't never you feel me. I ain't never
Speaker 5: really ever been suicidal, you know what I mean? I
Speaker 5: never been suicidal. But I just knew when I started,
Speaker 5: when I had took the time between albums, and you know,
Speaker 5: I'm just going through real life shit as you heard
Speaker 5: in records like Broski, you know, records like cut You Off,
Speaker 5: you know with NBA. You know, as I'm going through
Speaker 5: real life ship and I'm really starting to learn who
Speaker 5: I am, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And you know I knew that I had to. I
Speaker 4: had to get rid of the old me.
Speaker 8: Why didn't we get the experimental album?
Speaker 5: So we didn't get the experimental album because it wasn't
Speaker 5: something that I felt like I wanted to stand behind
Speaker 5: pause Right, it was like.
Speaker 2: Your pauses has been a little off. That one was.
Speaker 8: Now as fas as just make you think, like, man,
Speaker 8: what do you say? But you know.
Speaker 1: That excuse me?
Speaker 5: I think the Experimental album for me, I felt like
Speaker 5: was a little bit too left field even for me. Right,
Speaker 5: it was like I found myself, like, you know, going
Speaker 5: back into like I started going back into creating records
Speaker 5: that I felt like didn't really represent to where I
Speaker 5: wanted to be and who I am now. You know,
Speaker 5: I dropped the record Blackout with Future. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying in that record, You know, I'm talking about
Speaker 5: some shit that I used to talk about before I
Speaker 5: got on, which is like, you know, if I didn't
Speaker 5: make it, then I would be you know, selling the
Speaker 5: you know, kilos and shit. You know, but these are
Speaker 5: things that I was rapping about before I even got on.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, if I didn't break
Speaker 5: into the music industry, then I was gonna move from
Speaker 5: selling eight balls to kilos, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 5: and I'm in a place now where it's like, why
Speaker 5: the fuck you even talking about that shit.
Speaker 4: You already where you.
Speaker 5: Need to be, you feel me, So it's like, why
Speaker 5: are you going back to that shit? And it's like,
Speaker 5: you know, and it's like, I think I did it
Speaker 5: on some like culture shit.
Speaker 4: You feel me.
Speaker 5: And it's like, I'm not about to jump on a
Speaker 5: record with future and flex get on my lyrical shit,
Speaker 5: and you know what I mean, that shit kind of
Speaker 5: why I to do so it's like, let me just
Speaker 5: dumb my shit down. And it's like, you know, and
Speaker 5: I decided to do that, but also knew that before
Speaker 5: I released the record, or when I was doing the
Speaker 5: video and I'm sitting there and I got all this
Speaker 5: bread and YadA, YadA, YadA. You know, I'm just like, damn,
Speaker 5: I feel like this don't feel like the type of
Speaker 5: shit I want to be on right now. But I'm like,
Speaker 5: fucking I'm gonna do it, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 5: for the culture And I did it. And when I
Speaker 5: put it out, it was the response that I got
Speaker 5: from it was exactly how I was feeling, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But at the same like people telling you, like why
Speaker 2: you on this?
Speaker 5: Yeah, But at the same time, right, but a lot
Speaker 5: of people don't know me though, you feel me, Like
Speaker 5: they look at the storytelling shit and they just assume like,
Speaker 5: oh this, you know, he not about that or he did.
Speaker 5: Like niggas don't know like where I come from, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. They don't know joining before Joda
Speaker 5: got on, you know what i mean. So a lot
Speaker 5: of niggas don't know that type of shit. But these
Speaker 5: are records that I've done, records like that before, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. And it's like I'm in a
Speaker 5: different place on my life now. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 5: when I had dropped it and I got that response,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, I'm just like, damn, like
Speaker 5: I already know, like almost the whole album was shit
Speaker 5: like that. I got all these features from all these
Speaker 5: artists and shit that you know, I felt like was
Speaker 5: like culture shit of like what's in now, But it
Speaker 5: really wasn't really you know what I'm saying exactly the
Speaker 5: nigga that I you know what I mean. So it
Speaker 5: just didn't make sense. So it was like fuck that,
Speaker 5: I'm scrapping this shit, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 5: I made an executive decision to scrap that shit.
Speaker 2: You talked about Broski earlier and cut you off.
Speaker 6: And I always wondered, like when you had people do
Speaker 6: you dirty and those type of situations had it made
Speaker 6: a challenge in to form like deep connections with people,
Speaker 6: being that everybody might have their own yeah, hitting agendas.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: It started made me realize, like why niggas like Marshall
Speaker 5: move a certain way?
Speaker 1: You feel me because like with that niggas like getting
Speaker 1: on the phone with him, it's.
Speaker 5: Like you you you could probably hop on the phone
Speaker 5: with Barack quicker than you can hop on the phone
Speaker 5: with Marshall. That nigga's calling you from a line with
Speaker 5: his manager's assistant is calling you.
Speaker 4: From a one hundred number.
Speaker 5: And then it's just like elevated music and it's like,
Speaker 5: please hold Marshals coming to the phone.
Speaker 1: You can't have his number, nobody has his number.
Speaker 5: He's not accessible. You can't talk to him. It's like
Speaker 5: hopping on the phone with the President, right. And it's
Speaker 5: like I always wondered, like why do this nigga move
Speaker 5: like that. I had a conversation with him on the
Speaker 5: shoot of A Lucky You and I'm just in his
Speaker 5: trailer and I'm like, yeah, man, like anytime you want
Speaker 5: to talk, anytime you want to build, and like, you
Speaker 5: know whatever, you know, you can hit me, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Like we could talk and we could
Speaker 5: build on his music shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: He was like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: And it's just like I could tell he was really
Speaker 5: like real stand office, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 5: I would ask Roy's like, yo, why is he like that.
Speaker 5: He's like, man, that Nigga's just been through a lot
Speaker 5: of shit. You don't really like, you know, he's very
Speaker 5: close off from people, right, And I'm just like, damn,
Speaker 5: and I never understood it, right. And it's just like
Speaker 5: when I started, you know, experiencing this shit that I
Speaker 5: was experiencing.
Speaker 4: I got it instantly.
Speaker 5: I'm like, this is why this motherfucking don't want to
Speaker 5: He don't want new friends, like he don't want you
Speaker 5: feel me.
Speaker 4: And it's like I get it one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: And he was the biggest star in the world at
Speaker 2: one point. So imagine he's still live.
Speaker 5: Yeah, niggas gotta drop a fucking album and he's still
Speaker 5: he can't just be outside. He's not the nigga that
Speaker 5: could just be outside like that. You can't just walk
Speaker 5: the streets of fucking New York like you got you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like it's the whole thing. He's
Speaker 5: a he's a big deal, like to this day, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. And it's like he moves like
Speaker 5: that for a reason. You know what I'm saying, He's
Speaker 5: not You could probably j Z be texting niggas and shit,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like some niggas don't know
Speaker 5: how to handle trauma and all that shit, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. But I'm starting to get into the
Speaker 5: space now where it's like I'm starting to understand why
Speaker 5: these indus street niggas move. When I came into the game,
Speaker 5: like Yo, these niggas is weird, first thing I'd say,
Speaker 5: like why the fuck these niggas A is so weird?
Speaker 1: But now I see why niggas is weird.
Speaker 2: You gotta have boundaries, boundaries.
Speaker 3: I was aske with your with your videos right art
Speaker 3: a lot of art. How long does it take to
Speaker 3: prepare those videos?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Because I'm watching your videos and even the one with
Speaker 3: Jelly Roll or Roll Timmy and the fact that it's
Speaker 3: high budget. I mean, in one after you got a
Speaker 3: tank in one video, but not only that, you got
Speaker 3: the actors in the video knowing the lyrics before the
Speaker 3: song came out. So that takes time, and it takes preparation.
Speaker 3: It's it's almost like it's like a real movie. So
Speaker 3: what is the preparation for a joint of Lucas video?
Speaker 5: So I'm creating a visuals before I'm creating the song.
Speaker 5: Really right, So I'm I already had the videos and
Speaker 5: the visuals in my head right before I that was
Speaker 5: a pause.
Speaker 2: So I'm like videos in your head. I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: it was a heavy breath.
Speaker 5: So I'm creating the visuals like mentally already, the script
Speaker 5: is already written. Now I just gotta write the song.
Speaker 5: I already see it. I see the house, I see
Speaker 5: the guy. I know this is about da da da ya,
Speaker 5: And I'm like, I just got to create the record.
Speaker 4: I gotta find the beat.
Speaker 5: Now that I've found the beat, and then I'm writing,
Speaker 5: and I'm meticulously trying to find the character in my
Speaker 5: head of who's gonna play this role. And once I
Speaker 5: lock in on that character, from the moment the song
Speaker 5: is done, I'm now contacting a rapper, and the reason
Speaker 5: why I'm choosing a rapper is because I know a
Speaker 5: rapper is gonna memorize it really quick. I know that
Speaker 5: it's not gonna look weird when their lip syncing it right.
Speaker 5: So I'm choosing rappers specifically, or if you have any
Speaker 5: type of you can be a singer, an R and
Speaker 5: B singer, but if you know how to memorize some shit,
Speaker 5: you know it makes sense. But I'm not going to
Speaker 5: choose somebody that doesn't do music, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So I send it out. I tell that person they
Speaker 5: have a certain amount of time to learn it. You know,
Speaker 5: nine times out of ten they're excited to do it,
Speaker 5: so they learning it quick.
Speaker 4: Roteini was excited to do it.
Speaker 5: What's interesting about Broski is I never seen to this day,
Speaker 5: I never seen one episode.
Speaker 1: Of Power Really Wow to this day, never seen it.
Speaker 5: And I stayed away from watching it on purpose because
Speaker 5: I don't want to be influenced by a lot of
Speaker 5: these shows. And then you start bleeding in through my
Speaker 5: videos and it now niggas is like.
Speaker 4: Oh this shit look like that? You feel me?
Speaker 5: Because I'm a creative, I try not to watch certain
Speaker 5: things because I don't want to be influenced by it, right.
Speaker 5: And I actually seen Roteine me in this movie called
Speaker 5: For the Love of Money. It's an independent film with
Speaker 5: him and Kerry Hilson. It's the first time I ever
Speaker 5: seen Roteiny act and I was like, yo, I was like,
Speaker 5: I like his character.
Speaker 4: I love his character, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And at the same time, I was writing bros Ky
Speaker 5: and it was just like I started to have his
Speaker 5: his faith in my mind paused very I can't say
Speaker 5: that I can't get him.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Niggas can't get day. So motherfucking.
Speaker 5: I knew that I wanted him to play the role,
Speaker 5: and I sent him the record, and you know, he
Speaker 5: memorized it. We shot a video in like two weeks.
Speaker 5: I edited direct everything myself, and then I was holding
Speaker 5: onto that for a little bit because it was a
Speaker 5: part of the album and I was still creating the
Speaker 5: album in real time, and I wanted to drop it,
Speaker 5: you know, while I was dropping.
Speaker 4: Some of the other records.
Speaker 3: You know, that one was so hard because I think
Speaker 3: everybody has been through that, like a friend that you've
Speaker 3: helped and you felt like the friend looked at you differently.
Speaker 1: So it's it.
Speaker 3: It hit because it was like, damn.
Speaker 6: You might be the only person in history who can
Speaker 6: put out a song in a video that overshadows a
Speaker 6: whole project.
Speaker 1: Yes, I appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Like the strangest thing, like Roski will come out and
Speaker 6: it's like that's what people want from joining you know,
Speaker 6: best best for me will come out and they're like, oh,
Speaker 6: that's what I want. But you know, you got a
Speaker 6: whole album coming up, you know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 6: do you ever think yourself I might have to do
Speaker 6: a whole album of visuals?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I I was gonna make turn bro Ski into
Speaker 5: like a series, you know what I mean with rotey
Speaker 5: and like really create a story out of it and
Speaker 5: like go crazy with it. So I was entertaining that.
Speaker 1: For a little bit.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I thought about it, about doing the whole
Speaker 5: album serious thing or whatever, But I just I just
Speaker 5: haven't done it yet.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Well when you do, I mean I add sometimes yeah.
Speaker 1: I got you, and I just I really just been
Speaker 1: wanting to like with that an industry.
Speaker 2: I got you are like elevated music.
Speaker 5: I think that these music, I think these these these
Speaker 5: music videos are very inspired by movies, not from specific movies,
Speaker 5: I mean just the feel of it. Pauls right, it's
Speaker 5: like it's very cinematic, and it's like I'm creating my
Speaker 5: own movie within the visual, within the music. And I
Speaker 5: think that's subconsciously me trying to I really, I really
Speaker 5: uh wanted to get into movies, being in being doing movies,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, acting in movies. So that
Speaker 5: was really subconscious, subconsciously me trying to bring that into
Speaker 5: fruition so these actors can see this. So you know,
Speaker 5: these directors can see these movies or these videos and
Speaker 5: be like, yo, I gotta get him in a movie.
Speaker 4: I got to make a movie with.
Speaker 5: Him, and YadA, YadA YadA, right, And that was what
Speaker 5: I was trying to do. When it work, right, because
Speaker 5: then I was able to get Mark in the joint,
Speaker 5: and I was able to get these other actors and
Speaker 5: Roe teem Me and YadA, YadA YadA, and then I
Speaker 5: ended up actually right then, I ended up actually getting
Speaker 5: in movies with them.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: But they called me to be Mark Wahlberg put me
Speaker 5: in a movie my first movie ever. Shout out to
Speaker 5: my brother Mark Wilber and then Will Smith had me
Speaker 5: and Bad Boys for you know what I'm saying, which
Speaker 5: is fired that's.
Speaker 4: About to drop.
Speaker 2: That's an exclusive.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I supposed to reveal that. I think I think
Speaker 5: I revealed it, I posted it or whatever. You just
Speaker 5: wasn't paying attention.
Speaker 2: You got a big role.
Speaker 5: Nobody in that movie has a big role except Martin
Speaker 5: it will, you know what I mean? Because of the
Speaker 5: because of the direction they went in with the movie.
Speaker 5: Everybody that comes in the movie is it's a section
Speaker 5: and then they're out and then it's just like onto
Speaker 5: the next person that comes in the movie.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to see you act
Speaker 2: as much as I want to see you create.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I'm sure you got something in the works, like
Speaker 2: your own personal.
Speaker 1: I think that when you say create talking about music
Speaker 1: or movie, TV show on.
Speaker 4: Audio, TV show like how like uh.
Speaker 6: Like fifty Child's Game? You know, Atlanta, What's Dave Dicky?
Speaker 6: Little Dicky does Dave?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've just seen ben Stable ships fire too.
Speaker 4: I like.
Speaker 5: I like that, but they got going on. But even that, right,
Speaker 5: even the opportunity like that to do things like that,
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm setting myself up for that when
Speaker 5: I kind of create my own visuals, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on Bobby's murder?
Speaker 6: You know, speaking of people giving you propers, he said that
Speaker 6: you were the master P of this generation and he
Speaker 6: questioned why more people don't talk about you making a quarter.
Speaker 2: Million dollars a month independently? M what do you think
Speaker 2: about that?
Speaker 5: I thought that was I thought that was fire. Like
Speaker 5: you know, first of all, call me the master P
Speaker 5: of the generation? Is it's fire? Because master P was
Speaker 5: that's pe you know what I'm saying, Like, that's like
Speaker 5: that dude is like the he's like the first one
Speaker 5: of the first cats to really do this for real,
Speaker 5: like you know what I mean, independently and like really
Speaker 5: do it. So like him calling me that, it was
Speaker 5: just like wow, you know, I didn't know he never
Speaker 5: he never displayed that to me before. So him going on,
Speaker 5: you know, saying that was like, wow, I didn't know
Speaker 5: he felt that way, you know, But I think that
Speaker 5: that's dope that he aspires to, you know, become independent
Speaker 5: and you know, make his money. And you know, the
Speaker 5: music industry has changed a lot, So you know, I
Speaker 5: think that I thought it.
Speaker 3: Was dope DMX is on the album How did you
Speaker 3: get diverse.
Speaker 4: X?
Speaker 2: Break that down?
Speaker 3: You an exit the studio?
Speaker 1: How was that so?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 2: I didn't go for it to symbols on it too.
Speaker 5: I spent some time with X, went to we played
Speaker 5: pool a few times. I got to pick his brain.
Speaker 5: He gave me a lot of advice.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: I had real nigga conversations with Axious about like his life,
Speaker 5: his upbringing, and I was able to ask him a
Speaker 5: lot of personal questions just so I can understand him
Speaker 5: because I kind of had a feeling at.
Speaker 1: Some point that he was going to go before the time,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a million percent.
Speaker 5: So I made it a point to ask him as
Speaker 5: many questions as as I wanted to ask him.
Speaker 4: And yeah, he's a HOMEI bro.
Speaker 5: He'll hit me up at like that dude wild hit
Speaker 5: me up at like text me at like one in
Speaker 5: the morning, like yo, let's go out type ship.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, let's roll and we go hit
Speaker 5: the you know, the Billard or something. We would just
Speaker 5: go play pool type ship. But he was a very
Speaker 5: interesting guy and he was a real one, you know.
Speaker 2: I don't think he was from him.
Speaker 8: I don't think X was from him.
Speaker 6: I think from another dimension. Yes, yeah, he's never met
Speaker 6: somebody like DMX. Nothing about him was like a human.
Speaker 1: He's different, like nothing, He's different.
Speaker 5: And then and I think, and one thing I loved
Speaker 5: about X was that you know he was he was
Speaker 5: he was had a very tough exteria, right, he was
Speaker 5: very You never questioned his sexuality. He was a very
Speaker 5: tough exteria, but on the inside, like he would pray
Speaker 5: for you, you know what I'm saying. Like Hill, he
Speaker 5: was very He was a very emotional guy to get
Speaker 5: He's been through a lot of ship, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. And I when I had a conversation with him,
Speaker 5: you know, one day, you know he had he was
Speaker 5: pretty much I was explaining to him how how me
Speaker 5: being signed to a label at this time, I was
Speaker 5: just like felt defeated because I wasn't getting what I
Speaker 5: needed to out of the situation. And we had a
Speaker 5: real conversation in which he gave me some advice. And
Speaker 5: right after we had that conversation, I wrote, I'm not racist. Wow,
Speaker 5: changed my entire life. Right after we had that one
Speaker 5: conversation and he said, start from the jarm board, come
Speaker 5: up with some come up with something groundbreaking, force the
Speaker 5: hand of the label, make them believe.
Speaker 2: Wow, y'all been at a relationship or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when did he do the years ago?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 3: You have more than one ex verse?
Speaker 4: I got another? Like, yeah, I got another ex verse too. Yeah.
Speaker 6: You know you talked about collabing with Future and you
Speaker 6: got a young Boy on this album. But then you said,
Speaker 6: you feel like sometimes you gotta dumb your lyrics down
Speaker 6: when you get on records with Future, So like when
Speaker 6: you collab with somebody like a young boy, like like why,
Speaker 6: like why if you got to turn your volume down?
Speaker 5: It's not that, it's just I think sometimes I think
Speaker 5: that I'm such a fan of a lot of different
Speaker 5: types of music.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 5: Like, there's Future records that I love, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean? He got some he got some bops, like
Speaker 5: young Boy, Like, he got some bops. Maybe not all
Speaker 5: of them. Don't you don't love all the Future's music.
Speaker 5: We don't love all the Jointings music. We don't love
Speaker 5: all of anybody's fucking music. Right, But the point is
Speaker 5: is I'm a fan of you know, a lot of
Speaker 5: people wouldn't be surprised to know that. I listen to
Speaker 5: a lot of different types of shit, and it's like
Speaker 5: if I jump on the record with certain people, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to go off like that. I want
Speaker 5: to go into their world sometimes and I want to
Speaker 5: like have fun with it and you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: like play with it a little bit.
Speaker 2: Pause pause.
Speaker 5: That one was a pause?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 8: Someone?
Speaker 7: When when rappers get like big, like you know, well,
Speaker 7: so yeah you paused from me, All right, fine, but
Speaker 7: when you know, when they make it to a certain
Speaker 7: level of success, a lot of them have to move
Speaker 7: out of their city.
Speaker 8: How involved are you with your city?
Speaker 1: Or are you When you say.
Speaker 4: How involved are I what you mean by like.
Speaker 8: Do you still live there? Like how often do you
Speaker 8: go back?
Speaker 5: I got like family there, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: So so i'd be around sometimes, but I'm very like cautious,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like I don't just be
Speaker 5: outside like that.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: But yeah, well, because of like I just situations you've
Speaker 6: seen happen, like you know in rap, or just because
Speaker 6: it's something that personally happened to you.
Speaker 5: Nah, ain't nothing really personally happened to me. Ain't nothing,
Speaker 5: ain't nothing ever happened to me. The you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. But you just gotta be ready, you feel me.
Speaker 5: So if I am outside, I'm out outside without a strap.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. If I'm outside, I'm out
Speaker 4: outside like.
Speaker 5: Ready for whatever, because you just never know, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, when you're in a position now, I'm
Speaker 5: in pause.
Speaker 8: Positions. You know I got you.
Speaker 2: That was crazy, that a crazy one.
Speaker 3: I was with your family. You know, you have two kids,
Speaker 3: and of course you have your sister here today. How
Speaker 3: are you with your family and breaking down the business
Speaker 3: and teaching them?
Speaker 4: I don't I keep that separate.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, man, I keep the music. I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just that when I'm with family and family time
Speaker 1: as family time, I.
Speaker 4: Don't want to.
Speaker 5: I don't even like mixing business with family. And you know,
Speaker 5: explaining business. It's like, you know when you say that.
Speaker 1: Who asked that you?
Speaker 5: You you rite the business? When you explain when you
Speaker 5: said like breaking down the business, what you mean by that?
Speaker 3: A little bit of everything? So especially with your kids,
Speaker 3: letting him know where it comes from. How hard it
Speaker 3: is because the route that you're taking is a route
Speaker 3: that most people could never figure out doing independent on
Speaker 3: your own. You're investing in.
Speaker 5: Your My son is about eight years old, so his
Speaker 5: he karate you know, video games. Like he's not in
Speaker 5: a place where he can even understand or comprehend that right,
Speaker 5: And it's like, you know, I don't I try to
Speaker 5: let him be a kid, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: and keep him away from I don't want him to
Speaker 5: grow pause before his time, you know. So they're not
Speaker 5: almost two year old, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 5: when I'm with my family, his family time, it's like
Speaker 5: I learned how to separate the two, you know stuff
Speaker 5: I'm working on working and when I'm with my family,
Speaker 5: I'm with my family, I'm not working and having my
Speaker 5: face family and doing her that I got my little
Speaker 5: sister here, you know what I mean, Because like it's
Speaker 5: like my homie, you know what I'm saying. I want
Speaker 5: her to come, you know, to experience all this because
Speaker 5: she works. She's a you know, she's an RN, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So she worked hard in her fields.
Speaker 5: She don't really get the time to like really be
Speaker 5: around any of this shit. So it's like I'm proud
Speaker 5: of her. So it's like when she got to you know,
Speaker 5: you want to come out to the breakfast club, you
Speaker 5: want to come out here and do this, do that?
Speaker 5: She's like, hell yeah, I could take a little time
Speaker 5: real quick and come do this, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So apart from that, my mama, she'll roll with me,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. She loves going to concerts,
Speaker 5: she loves doing shit like this. She loves you know,
Speaker 5: where you go in New York. I'm going to New York.
Speaker 5: I'm going here. I'm going there, and I want to
Speaker 5: take her so she can really experience the shit too.
Speaker 5: She went she was on a Bad Boys movie set.
Speaker 5: I want her to really, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: like experience this shit with me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: But when it comes to creating and it comes to
Speaker 5: like that, I try to keep that shit like separate
Speaker 5: when I'm with because I don't want to be like
Speaker 5: recording and making music and then with my kids. And
Speaker 5: then I got it like I don't want to feel
Speaker 5: like they're not getting the time that they need for me.
Speaker 5: So it's like I just separate time, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, what.
Speaker 6: If I'm a cousin who wants to work in the
Speaker 6: frozen yoga spot? Can I ask you about that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I got my niece that she worked there, like ship,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Now that's like on the outskirts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, something you want to franchise?
Speaker 4: I feel like I could.
Speaker 1: Yeah, need that.
Speaker 4: I feel like I could.
Speaker 2: What made you want to do frozen yogurt?
Speaker 5: Because I was I was always in the morning. I
Speaker 5: stopped eating breakfast, I started drinking like protein shapes and
Speaker 5: like ship like that. So I was always spending my
Speaker 5: time at like this one spot. And I was like,
Speaker 5: you know what, I'm about to just do my own ship,
Speaker 5: my first break and mortar, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Like my first business outside of the Tully, you know,
Speaker 5: the music ship outside of that.
Speaker 6: So I want to ask you about a line from
Speaker 6: that Jelly Roll said, and best for me said, how
Speaker 6: can you love someone and learn to let them go?
Speaker 2: You think that's achievable from your experience?
Speaker 5: That's my middle name. Mm hmm, that's my middle name.
Speaker 5: That's one of the biggest that's one of the that's
Speaker 5: one of the things about myself that I recognize, as
Speaker 5: you know, a part of myself that I hate but
Speaker 5: I love at the same time that I'm able to
Speaker 5: do shut that switch off, you know.
Speaker 8: Are you ever unable to do that? And that's why
Speaker 8: you what.
Speaker 5: It's like that I became desensitized to pain, you know,
Speaker 5: desensitized to hurt, you know. So it's like, in order
Speaker 5: to not really feel it paused, you know, I I
Speaker 5: learned how to create my my my own light switch
Speaker 5: to where I could just shut the light off and
Speaker 5: nobody's safe from that light switch, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: And it's just a it's a pretty fucked up thing
Speaker 5: to have, you know what I'm saying, because.
Speaker 2: It's it's.
Speaker 5: It's real difficult sometimes to you know, build real relationships
Speaker 5: when you can do that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: When you could just shut off a switch and then
Speaker 5: just be like, you know, and nobody's safe from that.
Speaker 5: I've had to do it to family, friends, girls, you know,
Speaker 5: and it's like, if you if you experienced it at
Speaker 5: the level that I've experienced it with some of the
Speaker 5: closest people to you, nobody say.
Speaker 4: Nobody say.
Speaker 6: I think some people think unconditional love requires the acceptance
Speaker 6: of harmful behavior, and I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I don't agree with that though.
Speaker 4: I feel like.
Speaker 5: A lot of people think that just because you love
Speaker 5: them means that you got to keep them around, but
Speaker 5: you got to deal with bullshit that you don't want
Speaker 5: to deal with. I feel like my mental health and
Speaker 5: my peace of mind is the most important thing to
Speaker 5: me above anything else, right, Like my sanity is the
Speaker 5: most important thing to me. So if you keep, if
Speaker 5: you bring in, if we clashing, there's an incompatibility there, right,
Speaker 5: And it's like that has to be addressed or else
Speaker 5: we're just gonna be incompatible.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: And it's like a lot of people think incompatibility just
Speaker 5: is within relationships, but it's really within friendships, it's within workspaces,
Speaker 5: just within a lot of different things. Right, It's like,
Speaker 5: how compatible are you to me? And you know, and
Speaker 5: it's like once I realize and once I see that
Speaker 5: we're not compatible, that's when I got to go ahead
Speaker 5: and flip that light switch off. And then you take
Speaker 5: that like I never cared about you at all, But
Speaker 5: that's not the truth. The truth is I still love you.
Speaker 5: We're just not compatible. You gotta go your way and
Speaker 5: I gotta go my way, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: And it's a tough thing for me to even do
Speaker 5: because it's like, damn, like I gotta I have to
Speaker 5: do that again, you know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 5: hard to have, like, it's hard, it's hard to have
Speaker 5: real genuine relationships when that happens, you know what I me.
Speaker 5: I'm saying. So, but then you're still protecting you thought.
Speaker 2: A couple more questions.
Speaker 6: There was a there was a go for me of
Speaker 6: a woman who was killed and you donated ten grand,
Speaker 6: but then she ended up being.
Speaker 2: In your music video. Did you know that she was
Speaker 2: in your video before you donated?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew her.
Speaker 5: I know her personally. Oh okay, okay, yeah, I know
Speaker 5: it personally. And it was just a sad situation, you know,
Speaker 5: very sad, very sad situation.
Speaker 4: For the city. You know.
Speaker 5: It's another reminder that you know, you be here one
Speaker 5: day and tomorrow you'll be gone, you know. And it's
Speaker 5: like what happened to that young woman and her daughter
Speaker 5: was was horrific, you know. And it's like I felt
Speaker 5: guilty because she was in the video and she in
Speaker 5: the video, she was rapping in the car that she
Speaker 5: died in the car, you know.
Speaker 4: So it's like it was just haunting and you go back
Speaker 4: and watch it.
Speaker 5: I'm still thinking about taking the video down just because
Speaker 5: I just just you know what I mean, Like it's
Speaker 5: just it's just so.
Speaker 6: You know, it was one of them spooky coincidence. I mean,
Speaker 6: like you can't hold yourself accountable.
Speaker 5: Nah, I'm not holding myself accountable. It's really just like
Speaker 5: it's just I don't know, it's a freaky thing.
Speaker 8: But still to see in it actually.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's just a it's one of those things. Disgusting, man.
Speaker 5: And it's like, you know, her daughter had passed away
Speaker 5: to both of them in the car. Wow, somebody had
Speaker 5: ran up and spray the car up with her daughter.
Speaker 5: And her daughter was supposed to be on the first
Speaker 5: verse on in that song, but I chose another little
Speaker 5: girl instead, you know what I'm saying. But I didn't
Speaker 5: know her daughter as well, and it was in her
Speaker 5: the mom and a daughter was really good people, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So that really was tragic.
Speaker 4: And she was.
Speaker 5: In the military, you know, so yeah, she served the country,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So resting piece to absolutely
Speaker 5: resting Pieza shorty.
Speaker 6: Last question, are you working on a joint album with
Speaker 6: Will Smith? Because that was that was a rumor too.
Speaker 4: I want to say some one called a joint album.
Speaker 2: You help him do his album though, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 5: I'm you know, you're working on some music together. You know,
Speaker 5: I got Wheel in his bag, so you know, I
Speaker 5: can't wait for the music to actually drop.
Speaker 2: What's the first offering some of the Bad Boys fourth contrack?
Speaker 5: We're actually about to go create something for the Bad
Speaker 5: Boys for contract when I when I go on to
Speaker 5: his crib in a couple of days, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: Joining you working my brother, brother, you are working.
Speaker 3: New album is out right now? Not now, I'm busy
Speaker 3: and we appreciate you for joining us.
Speaker 4: Brother going on this tour, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I'm going on a tour from and May, from May
Speaker 5: to June, Drew, what's the dates? May eleventh, the June fifteenth,
Speaker 5: not now, busy the door featuring my man uh Millie.
Speaker 5: You know he's from the city. To shout out to
Speaker 5: my bro mill and Daks. Daks out there doing the
Speaker 5: things I put him on the on the joint too,
Speaker 5: so that is cool. So he's going on there. Anything
Speaker 5: else you want to say, Album out Friday, album mouth Friday,
Speaker 5: anything else you want to say.
Speaker 1: That's it, thank you Lucas. Yeah, Joy and Lucas.
Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Good morning wake that ans up in the morning.
Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.