Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Fantasy Pros NFL Draft Show. I'm
Speaker 1: your host Derek Brown. With today's show, we are going
Speaker 1: to run through the wide receivers eleven through twenty per
Speaker 1: consensus on NFL mock draft database dot com, as well
Speaker 1: as Thor and I are going to talk about all
Speaker 1: these guys in depth where we have them ranked and stuff.
Speaker 1: But before we get to the show, I've got to
Speaker 1: tell everybody, all the listeners to show, we have a
Speaker 1: special guest coming on next week to discuss our guys
Speaker 1: from quarterback, running back, wide receiver, tight end, our guys
Speaker 1: from this draft class. We're gonna have special guests John
Speaker 1: Middlecall from the Volume on the show next week. Baby,
Speaker 1: and anybody that is not familiar with his work, look,
Speaker 1: you're in for a treat man. He is a fantastic
Speaker 1: host over at the Volume Network. He spent time as
Speaker 1: a writer with The Athletic covering the San Francisco forty
Speaker 1: nine ers, and he was a scout for the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: Eagles for three seasons four. I'm excited, dude, this show
Speaker 1: is gonna be fire. But Baby, people got to be
Speaker 1: tuning into the Middle Cough Show next week.
Speaker 2: Man as well, Yeah, I was on with Middle Cough
Speaker 2: last week. That guy knows his stuff, sir. We got
Speaker 2: a real tree coming for people next week. Definitely tune
Speaker 2: in for that.
Speaker 1: Oh it's gonna be good man. We're just gonna be
Speaker 1: laying out the love list for all these dudes we love, man.
Speaker 1: So look, I don't want to take too much time
Speaker 1: at the top of this show, man, but people got
Speaker 1: to get subscribed, they got to tune into that. And
Speaker 1: we're gonna start this one off with some fire man,
Speaker 1: some absolute just molten takes, and just burn it down
Speaker 1: because my eyes are deceiving me. They have to be
Speaker 1: deceiving me here at Thor. The first guy we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about, apparently is wide receiver twenty in this class
Speaker 1: right now per consensus on NFL mock draft database. Dude,
Speaker 1: it's Javon Baker, and I'm gonna let you kick this off.
Speaker 1: Why I collect myself because how in the absolute heck
Speaker 1: my wide receiver six in this class is buried at
Speaker 1: wide receiver twenty. I don't know, but you go ahead, Thorn.
Speaker 1: It's all you baby for right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're even higher on them than me.
Speaker 2: But he is definitely being slept on. That is a
Speaker 2: criminally low ranking. This reminds me of a guy last
Speaker 2: year that was being slept on as well that ended
Speaker 2: up going in round two. The guy that I comped
Speaker 2: them to, Rashid Rice. You know, a guy that came
Speaker 2: out of SMU and was able to contribute immediately. Javon
Speaker 2: Baker tested seven eighty five ras at a little over
Speaker 2: six one two hundred two pounds. Former five star recruit
Speaker 2: early on his career, was stuck behind all those receivers
Speaker 2: at Alabama. Went to UCF. That's where he realized his potential.
Speaker 2: Well built, sudden mover plays with attitude de bro out
Speaker 2: there in my notes. In my notes, I say press
Speaker 2: corners better bring their boxing gloves and their tap shoes,
Speaker 2: varied release package with a matrix of footwork. He's not
Speaker 2: explosive off the line. He's a build up speed guy,
Speaker 2: but he gets the releases off of it clean. Downfield
Speaker 2: killer seventeen point one eight dot. Despite good but not
Speaker 2: great speed and in large part because of his my
Speaker 2: ball determination, attacks the ball in the air and latches
Speaker 2: on ndebtor by contact, he was unsurprisingly one of the
Speaker 2: classes best contested catch receivers.
Speaker 3: Despite that bloate at a dot.
Speaker 2: Javon Baker went twenty for thirty six in contested instances
Speaker 2: the past two years, mostly in downfield scenarios. A contortionist
Speaker 2: in the air when reeling in poorly thrown balls, and
Speaker 2: he had many partly throwing balls from John Rice Plumbley
Speaker 2: and then the backup quarterback at UCF because John Rice
Speaker 2: Plumbley would get banged up and so UCF would have
Speaker 2: to throw in their backup quarterback frequently the past couple
Speaker 2: of years.
Speaker 3: Baker isn't the most.
Speaker 2: Agile player, but overall his routes are better than adequate,
Speaker 2: in part because he understands leverage and tempo, and in
Speaker 2: part because he can so quickly throttle into and out
Speaker 2: of his route breaks. I like the job that he
Speaker 2: does stacking. That's in part why he does so good downfield.
Speaker 2: He's capable at win at all three levels. He's also
Speaker 2: a yak threat. De bro, this guy is being slept on, dude.
Speaker 1: I love him. I love Javon Baker, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: reiterate that for the people at home. I have him
Speaker 1: at wide receiver six or where do you have him
Speaker 1: ranked that I have him at wide receiver thirteen right now. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so we have a divide there, So I'm gonna lay
Speaker 1: out the love list. Tell me where I'm wrong here
Speaker 1: because I know look, I'm not gonna say I have
Speaker 1: rose covered glasses, but I really love this player. So
Speaker 1: I want you to kind of knock me down here
Speaker 1: at PEG because we are seven spots apart from each other.
Speaker 1: So I will acknowledge right now. Nothing that Javon Baker
Speaker 1: did in his testing surprise me at all. Him going
Speaker 1: out running a four or five, him testing okay but
Speaker 1: not great and a lot of different spots did not
Speaker 1: surprise me. Him jumping out of the freaking gym with
Speaker 1: the vert again not surprised. If you turn on Javon
Speaker 1: Baker's tape from the very top, Baby, he can contort
Speaker 1: his self in the air. We saw that in mobile.
Speaker 1: He is a back shoulder in the air above the
Speaker 1: rims specialist. The dude, is you talk about my ball mentality?
Speaker 1: I talked to him and met him in themobile and
Speaker 1: discussed this with He has that dog in him and
Speaker 1: he knows it. Man, that is his ball when he
Speaker 1: goes up in the air for it. And some people
Speaker 1: can and again, some people can look at all the
Speaker 1: contested targets and things like that and say, well, he
Speaker 1: doesn't separate. If that's what you think about Javon Baker,
Speaker 1: you're wrong. You're flat out wrong. The dude has some
Speaker 1: of the best route running chops in this entire freaking class.
Speaker 1: He will set up corner, he will set up corners
Speaker 1: and make them look absolutely silly, send them into the
Speaker 1: shadow realm while he runs an out route and he's
Speaker 1: wide open, and you almost have to go back to
Speaker 1: the tape and say, how the hell did this happen?
Speaker 1: So I love his game, man, and I think the
Speaker 1: thing that he was used mostly as a downfield receiver
Speaker 1: at UCF, and that's not even the highlight of his game.
Speaker 1: That's not even the best parts of his game. Like,
Speaker 1: he can get deep, but it's not because of this
Speaker 1: raw speed. It's not because it's not because of the
Speaker 1: raw athleticism. He can win deep because of his route
Speaker 1: running chops and his nuance in his routes and how
Speaker 1: he sets up corners. That's why I look at Javon
Speaker 1: Baker as being a high volume wide receiver at the
Speaker 1: next level. Because even though he was asked to you talk.
Speaker 1: You brought up to a dot. He was asked to
Speaker 1: stretch the field at UCF. He's so freaking good underneath,
Speaker 1: and his route running is underrated. Man Like, I don't
Speaker 1: look at him as a downfield thread in the NFL
Speaker 1: like I want him to go and eat defenses alive
Speaker 1: in the five to fifteen yard range. Now, if you
Speaker 1: ask him to stretch the field, he can do that.
Speaker 1: But again, this all comes back to and my comp
Speaker 1: for him. I'm not going to tell you that it's
Speaker 1: hot or it's hyperbolic, but same athletic testing, same size.
Speaker 1: I have a late second to third round great on him,
Speaker 1: and that's exactly where this player went for. My comp
Speaker 1: for him is Chris Godwin. Now we are apart in
Speaker 1: rankings here, chop down the tree man, tell me what
Speaker 1: he where? Where am I wrong or at least where
Speaker 1: are some of the limitations in Baker's game or what
Speaker 1: do you not like on him?
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I mean I'm not going to argue with
Speaker 3: any of that.
Speaker 2: And the thing that at the NFL level that I
Speaker 2: think is going to play up to your point is
Speaker 2: the thing that I loved about the.
Speaker 3: Game that his game that we didn't get to see
Speaker 3: enough of UCF.
Speaker 2: It was the thing of streaking across the middle, getting
Speaker 2: hit on the hands, and then continue.
Speaker 3: Trucking up field.
Speaker 2: He was really good at that stuff, and a lot
Speaker 2: of times when in those instances you'd see him spearing
Speaker 2: the ball outside of his frame and not lose any
Speaker 2: momentum to facilitate those yak opportunities. He had a lot
Speaker 2: of yak yardage in college despite that. Like I said,
Speaker 2: the blow to d Ada, a lot of it was coming
Speaker 2: on those those intermediate looks that he got and a
Speaker 2: lot of times it was not on the money throws.
Speaker 2: I think at the next level he goes into a
Speaker 2: system where it's like the timing sort of patterns with
Speaker 2: a quarterback that has accuracy, it's going to play up
Speaker 2: his his yak ability and different stuff like that.
Speaker 3: You have system that he came out of.
Speaker 2: Think, you know, as Gusmel's on, think back to early
Speaker 2: career bo Nicks at Auburn. This stuff he struggled with,
Speaker 2: you know, is the downfield throwing stuff Gusmell's on. He
Speaker 2: loves to use the quarterback's legs the run, go up
Speaker 2: tempo and then take the deep shots. It was a
Speaker 2: lot of the same stuff with Baker. He didn't see
Speaker 2: as much of the intermediate stuff. Javon Baker is really
Speaker 2: good at that. My concerns with them, Dee Bro, and
Speaker 2: they're you know, maybe nitpicking, but it's the reason that
Speaker 2: I'm just a little bit lower than you. Certainly way
Speaker 2: higher than consensus. The drop rate was over ten percent
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, years combined. Now, I will say,
Speaker 2: I don't think that this is bad hands. I think
Speaker 2: it's concentration. However, it goes to what my bigger concern
Speaker 2: about Javon Baker is, which is, you notice, the thing
Speaker 2: I love about his sort of attitude is like when
Speaker 2: he's in it and things are going well, it's the
Speaker 2: thing you talked about.
Speaker 3: He's a dog.
Speaker 2: He has sort of that infectious competitive nature, you know,
Speaker 2: and he sort of gets his team going. He's one
Speaker 2: of those guys, you know, like a basketball player. He
Speaker 2: throws down a dunk or he has a big block,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, the whole team gets jacked up.
Speaker 2: That's Jeavon Baker. But then on the other hand of it,
Speaker 2: you'll notice games where Javon Baker was not getting as involved.
Speaker 2: Maybe John wright Plumbley, his accuracy was off, or the
Speaker 2: UF backup quarterback.
Speaker 3: Was in and was not throwing as well, or they
Speaker 3: were running more.
Speaker 2: Whatever, Javon Baker, maybe his routes did not have the
Speaker 2: same pizazz or on concepts. Maybe where they were at
Speaker 2: the other side of the field, you might notice he
Speaker 2: was loafing a little bit on some of those routes.
Speaker 2: Sometimes his head is more into the game than the
Speaker 2: other times. And and that's my theory about the drops,
Speaker 2: that they are one hund concentration drops Javon Baker. It's
Speaker 2: sort of the hot and cold thing with him. You
Speaker 2: get the one hundred percent engagement with Javon Baker. That's
Speaker 2: when the kid looks like a stud that we need
Speaker 2: to see that all the time. If we get that
Speaker 2: all the time with him in the NFL, I think
Speaker 2: that's where a team could get a steal on Javon
Speaker 2: Baker relative to his price point.
Speaker 3: That's my big thing with him. But I'm a big
Speaker 3: fan of his game, just like.
Speaker 1: You, d bro Man, especially a friend of the show,
Speaker 1: and Tony Pauline put out this, I think it was
Speaker 1: over the weekend, said he. Javon Baker has official top
Speaker 1: thirty visits set up with New England, the Texans, and
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I'm here for all that, baby, and look
Speaker 1: especially the Patriots in a spot where he would I
Speaker 1: think Javon Baker could quickly and air quotes quickly. I
Speaker 1: think he could quickly ascend to the top of that
Speaker 1: depth chart if you would air drop him. He'd be
Speaker 1: earning targets from week one. Man. So I'm so here
Speaker 1: for that man. But over from Baker to another talented
Speaker 1: wide receiver that I'm not telling you it's being slept on,
Speaker 1: but he's not getting the hype that a lot of
Speaker 1: these other guys in this class are getting. And I
Speaker 1: think it's kind of to the detriment man because he's
Speaker 1: extremely freaking talented wide receiver. Nineteen perkinsensus Johnny Wilson thor
Speaker 1: where do you have Wilson ranked? And what are your thoughts, man.
Speaker 2: Johnny Wilson. I have eighteenth, just a little bit above consensus.
Speaker 2: I go back and forth with Johnny Wilson, but I
Speaker 2: guess I'm closer to eighteenth, probably more.
Speaker 3: And this is probably a Johnny Wilson evaluation thing in.
Speaker 2: General, where the way that you see Johnny, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like, what is it the Roarershack test, the way
Speaker 2: that you see Johnny Wilson, it says more about you
Speaker 2: than it does Johnny Wilson. Let me give the listeners
Speaker 2: a little walk through memory lane. As far as my
Speaker 2: process went, my biggest mistake ever as far as evaluating
Speaker 2: receivers was HACKEM Butler. I ranked HACKEM Butler wide receiver
Speaker 2: one in his class when I began doing this. This was,
Speaker 2: you know, multiple years ago, early on in my career
Speaker 2: at NBC, when when I started doing NFL draft work.
Speaker 2: Johnny Wilson his you look at his overall in his career,
Speaker 2: the numbers and the analytical profile is so similar to
Speaker 2: Hawking Butler, and then the the athleticism in the frame.
Speaker 2: It's like looking in a mirror. I'm talking including the
Speaker 2: yards per route run, the drop rate, the A dot
Speaker 2: everything like Hockey Butler was twelve point seven percent drop rate,
Speaker 2: fourteen point five a dot two point five nine yards
Speaker 2: per route run. Johnny Wilson two point five two yards
Speaker 2: per route run, fourteen point four a dot, twelve point
Speaker 2: eight career percent, career drop rate at Florida State.
Speaker 3: Those are the things that concern me.
Speaker 2: But the other stuff is, you know, in the same
Speaker 2: stuff that excited me about Hackeing Butler, it's the same
Speaker 2: stuff that excites me about Johnny Wilson when you look
Speaker 2: at it from the service. The kids enormous six foot
Speaker 2: six and a half two hundred thirty one pounds, his
Speaker 2: raz nine to eight eight. Now, of course you know
Speaker 2: that he didn't do all the tests, you know, it
Speaker 2: was the North South stuff, but very very fast and
Speaker 2: explosive in that package. He can obviously jump. He has
Speaker 2: the enormous catch radius, so you love all that stuff.
Speaker 2: He's taller and heavier than Mike Evans, Alan Lazard, Equadimia
Speaker 2: Saint Brown.
Speaker 3: He's all also one of his class's best.
Speaker 2: Blockers, you know, just just sort of washes over people,
Speaker 2: happy to get after them, and he plays on the boundary.
Speaker 2: You know, when we went down to Mobile de bro
Speaker 2: you and I we were praying that they were going
Speaker 2: to try him at in the slot as a big slot.
Speaker 2: We want him, We would love to see Johnny Wilson
Speaker 2: at the next level as the big slot tight endfella.
Speaker 2: But the first couple of days we had to admit
Speaker 2: he had done well enough in you know, as a
Speaker 2: boundary guy both in the one on ones team drills,
Speaker 2: different stuff like that, that he had essentially proved that
Speaker 2: at least at the beginning of his career, he deserves
Speaker 2: the opportunity to be the outside guy. The one thing
Speaker 2: that I'm hoping for Johnny Wilson that that did not
Speaker 2: occur for Hockeing Butler when when it wasn't working for
Speaker 2: Butler initially in his NFL career, you would have loved
Speaker 2: it more quickly he would have, you know, moved over
Speaker 2: into that slot, big slot, big tight end role in
Speaker 2: the slot. I would like for if Johnny Wilson, if
Speaker 2: it's not working for him on the outside, to quickly
Speaker 2: move into that big slot role at the NFL level.
Speaker 2: But I do believe he does deserve the opportunity, based
Speaker 2: on what we've seen on the film and what we
Speaker 2: saw on Mobile and what we've seen in the athletic profile,
Speaker 2: to at least start with that he can create the separation.
Speaker 2: He does have that enormous catch radius. It's the margin
Speaker 2: for air. Debro is going to get less in the NFL.
Speaker 2: As you know, he does not change directions extremely fluidly,
Speaker 2: so it's the north south stuff. He does sink the
Speaker 2: hips and he can come back to the ball and
Speaker 2: he can pinu you behind him.
Speaker 3: It's very hard to get around that guy.
Speaker 2: And he has the again the enormous frame with that
Speaker 2: enormous catch radius, but the hands need to get better.
Speaker 2: He has been dropping balls all of his career. It's
Speaker 2: the one issue you have with him right now. But
Speaker 2: you have that bullet in your holster. If he fails
Speaker 2: as the bound of your receiver, hopefully you can convince
Speaker 2: him to try to be the big slot tight end.
Speaker 2: I like Johnny Wilson enough. I think he deserves to
Speaker 2: go later on day two. I just don't love him
Speaker 2: because of my past experience. And that's Johnny Wilson's agent
Speaker 2: calling and saying, bro, what are you talking about.
Speaker 1: I've got around three grade on Johnny Wilson, and Dude,
Speaker 1: I will say this, I absolutely understand where you're coming
Speaker 1: from with the he Keem Butler stuff and with the size,
Speaker 1: and I think that Johnny Wilson, I think there's some
Speaker 1: differences there. Now are the drops a big concern for
Speaker 1: Johnny Wilson? They absolutely are, and we cannot bury that
Speaker 1: because the drop rate stands out. You do see concentration drops,
Speaker 1: you see some technique stuff with him as well, and
Speaker 1: so that has to be discussed. Man. But dude, I
Speaker 1: just I love the upside and the talent that this
Speaker 1: guy oozes. Like we're talking about a player that in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two was fourth and yards per route run
Speaker 1: twenty fifth MPFF receiving grade amongst all FBS wide receivers
Speaker 1: with at least fifty targets. So the talent is there.
Speaker 1: And you talked about the size profile, but again, like
Speaker 1: a guy his size should not move the way that
Speaker 1: he moves. It's just straight up, man. And we saw
Speaker 1: when they did move him inside for a few reps
Speaker 1: in mobile he looked great. He's too I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a really easy problem to sit here and make for
Speaker 1: a defense with a player of his size and movement skills.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well, you're too big for linebackers, and
Speaker 1: you're too or too big for nickels, and you're too
Speaker 1: fast for linebackers. Like this is I mean, you're talking
Speaker 1: about literally mismatch nightmare for one. He'd be he'd be
Speaker 1: so frickin good. And and are the drop problems a
Speaker 1: concern yes, But with this type of player, if he
Speaker 1: hits in the NFL and he puts it all together, man,
Speaker 1: he could be special. And I'm only talking about like,
Speaker 1: even if we only get him as a as a
Speaker 1: sixty forty like forty percent slot, even on those reps,
Speaker 1: he will make defensive coordinators want to pull their hair out. Man.
Speaker 1: So I love his talent. Again, I've got him as
Speaker 1: the He's a wide receiver eleven in my ranks right
Speaker 1: now because part of this is me betting on that
Speaker 1: type of upside. Now, is there a range where could
Speaker 1: you rank a bunch of other guys that have similar
Speaker 1: upside but questions to their game, Like could you put
Speaker 1: ad Ni Mitchell above him? If you loved Ady Mitchell?
Speaker 1: Could you put Kean Coleman above him? Sure? But I
Speaker 1: think he's firmly in that conversation of the back top
Speaker 1: twelve of wide receivers, and he should be in that
Speaker 1: kind of conversation. Now, where you want to rank all
Speaker 1: these guys is totally up for grabs, man, But I
Speaker 1: love Johnny Wilson's talent. Think he hears his name calling
Speaker 1: round two or excuse me, round three of the NFL
Speaker 1: draft big time talent man, but moving over from Johnny
Speaker 1: Wilson and big time talent too, a player that comes
Speaker 1: from well, big time lineage. He's got the NFL bloodline. Baby.
Speaker 1: We got to talk about the wide receiver eighteen per consensus,
Speaker 1: and I am I'll just say this, I'm right with consensus.
Speaker 1: I have him as my wide receiver eighteen. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not emphatic about this player that is Brendan Rice
Speaker 1: out of USC thor what are your thoughts on Brendan Rice,
Speaker 1: because you and I have talked a lot about Brendan Rice.
Speaker 1: It's not that I hate the kid. I just don't
Speaker 1: see one standout strade from him that really gives him
Speaker 1: an ace in the hole to be much more than
Speaker 1: like a wide receiver three or four on an NFL
Speaker 1: depth chart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm even a little bit lower than on you.
Speaker 2: Than you I Brendan Rice number twenty one in the class. Okay,
Speaker 2: I think the best case scenario you're looking at like
Speaker 2: Michael Wilson from last class. But I liked Michael Wilson
Speaker 2: more than I like Brendan Rice. Saying Brendan Rice six
Speaker 2: to two almost and a half two hundred eight pounds
Speaker 2: at the combine almost tested as an eightieth percentile athlete
Speaker 2: four or five flat. You know, he skipped out on
Speaker 2: the agilities, which a lot of people did. Of course,
Speaker 2: he's Jerry Rice's son. His routes did not have the
Speaker 2: pizzazz and the nuance that you sort of what expect
Speaker 2: from being Jerry Rice's son. The thing I like about
Speaker 2: him he does have good body control for his size.
Speaker 2: I like his ability to make plays near the sideline
Speaker 2: and in the red zone. That's the thing that you
Speaker 2: like about him. Although I will say, you know, he
Speaker 2: has the good uh uh touchdown numbers the last couple
Speaker 2: of years. Keep in mind that USC's overall touchdown numbers
Speaker 2: were passing touchdowns were extremely elevated just because of that environment.
Speaker 2: So the overall percentage a little bit down in terms
Speaker 2: of that. To just keep that context in mind. You know,
Speaker 2: in my notes, I had his inability to separate, force
Speaker 2: his quarterbacks to thread the needle to him. And Rice
Speaker 2: is not as good in contested contested situations as you'd think.
Speaker 2: USC wanted him to be Drake London and he just
Speaker 2: wasn't that kind of a player. He's he's okay, but
Speaker 2: you know, the projection d bro. It's either you're looking
Speaker 2: at a low end wide receiver two in the NFL,
Speaker 2: or like you're sort of mentioning solid backup receiver, you know,
Speaker 2: on the boundary. But that's that's sort of what you're
Speaker 2: looking at in Brndan Rice, a guy who's somewhere in
Speaker 2: between the those two things. I do not see a
Speaker 2: standard at the next level.
Speaker 1: No, I don't either, And the m I comps. People
Speaker 1: could say is derisive, but I mean that this is
Speaker 1: kind of how I see his game in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a solid wide receiver probably
Speaker 1: four in an NFL A depth chart. Maybe he gets
Speaker 1: pressed into being a wide receiver three if he goes
Speaker 1: somewhere and they need boundary help. But Nick Westbrook Akine
Speaker 1: is the guy that I comp him to. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I just look at a guy that doesn't have any
Speaker 1: one standout trait to where you're like, this is his
Speaker 1: ace in the hole, this is his juice, this is
Speaker 1: his trump card. This is how he wins and what
Speaker 1: he does and what he provides for your team. I
Speaker 1: think he has average burst off the line. His route
Speaker 1: running's okay, but not amazing. You can see even considering
Speaker 1: his size, he doesn't separate. Will you see corners once
Speaker 1: they get their hands on him, some guys can lock
Speaker 1: him down. Now where he excels or where he how
Speaker 1: he wins is based off of that size is based
Speaker 1: off of the six two two oh eight. The physicality
Speaker 1: in his routes like he has the upper body strength
Speaker 1: to kind of toss guys off of him at the
Speaker 1: top of his stem and really use his strength to
Speaker 1: get some late separation. But is he an easy separator?
Speaker 1: Is he a fluid mover? No, he looks like he's
Speaker 1: lumbering a lot through his routes. Man, I don't see
Speaker 1: him as like being the guy where it's like, can
Speaker 1: you win consistently underneath Probably not? Can you consistently take
Speaker 1: the top off of a defense, probably not. Can we
Speaker 1: roll you into the slot sometimes and you can bully
Speaker 1: some smaller nickel corners. That's kind of where I think
Speaker 1: maybe he gets the best matchups. So I don't even
Speaker 1: look at him as like an eighty to ninety percent
Speaker 1: boundary receiver. I think again, kind of like my comp here,
Speaker 1: I think probably a sixty to forty guy, probably a
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty guy, depending on the team and the
Speaker 1: scheme that he goes to. But I don't see him
Speaker 1: even as a full time starter in the NFL. I
Speaker 1: think that if you're pressing him into being your wide
Speaker 1: receiver three, probably means that you probably have a better,
Speaker 1: like a bigger need there. He's probably more likely a
Speaker 1: white wide receiver four and probably carves out a pretty
Speaker 1: decently long career as that man. But I just don't
Speaker 1: see him as a guy that's going to be in
Speaker 1: an NFL passing attack, a player that is going to
Speaker 1: earn a high target share. And I know that you
Speaker 1: don't see him that way either. But over to a
Speaker 1: player that I was surprised, I was, Oh, man, I'll
Speaker 1: say this, I was surprised when I turned on the
Speaker 1: tape because I was not expecting a guy that I
Speaker 1: got into this, laid into the process and his film
Speaker 1: to like him this much. And per Wider he is
Speaker 1: the wide receiver seventeen per consensus. I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: and put respect on his freaking name here. Th Or
Speaker 1: Jermain Burton comes in as the wide receiver seventeen per consensus.
Speaker 1: He is my wide receiver ten in this class. Man,
Speaker 1: I really really like his game and last year. Now,
Speaker 1: if you look at any season for Jermaine Burton, he's
Speaker 1: not gonna blow you away with the counting stats putting
Speaker 1: up thousand yard seasons and stuff. But last year we
Speaker 1: did see the efficiency on a per route basis jump up.
Speaker 1: And if I to be honest, if he would have
Speaker 1: gotten better quarterback play from Milroe under center and at Alabama,
Speaker 1: his numbers could have been even better. And if you
Speaker 1: have a problem with that, take go watch the last
Speaker 1: year versus LSU and tell me how he should have
Speaker 1: not had a huge monster game when he's dusting corners
Speaker 1: that entire game and Milroe is airmailing him on go routes. Man.
Speaker 1: But back to his skill set. Last season we saw
Speaker 1: him ranked twenty fifth in yards per route run thirtieth
Speaker 1: and PFF receiving grade. That doesn't even do justice to
Speaker 1: his film. For Burton has speed for days, and people
Speaker 1: look at him as a field stretching guy. Can he
Speaker 1: do that? Absolutely, That's mostly what he was asked to
Speaker 1: do in college. I think his game again much kind
Speaker 1: of like Javon Baker in the sense that they were
Speaker 1: categorized as field stretch in their collegiate offenses. There is
Speaker 1: more to his game than just that he can win
Speaker 1: at all three levels. He has speed and acceleration. Dude,
Speaker 1: his acceleration is fun to watch. Again, going back to
Speaker 1: the LSU game, there were times where like he buries
Speaker 1: up his pacing in his routes, so he'll throw a
Speaker 1: little hiccup in there, and all of a sudden, he
Speaker 1: goes from zero to sixty and like poof, like the
Speaker 1: blink of an eye, and you see the corner just
Speaker 1: like rocking back on his heels and all of a sudden, say,
Speaker 1: oh crap, I'm getting burnt. And then he starts pulling
Speaker 1: away from them down the field. But this is also
Speaker 1: a player who has route nuanced. He incorporates headfakes, jabs,
Speaker 1: pacing variations in his routes. I think if we're talking
Speaker 1: about one of the most slept on wide receivers of
Speaker 1: this entire freaking class man. I love Jermaine Burton's game,
Speaker 1: and people are gonna hate this comp because this player
Speaker 1: has not he is not panned out at the NFL
Speaker 1: level yet. But you and I, way back in the
Speaker 1: wayback machine talked about this guy coming out, and you
Speaker 1: know how much I love him. Or at least loved
Speaker 1: him as a prospect. So this is a lot of
Speaker 1: respect on his name my conference. Jermain Burton as with
Speaker 1: Shat Bateman.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot. Yeah, And I like
Speaker 3: Bateman coming out too my comfort.
Speaker 2: Jermaine Burton is a guy that I watched a lot
Speaker 2: earlier on in my life.
Speaker 3: Bernard Berrian, you remember.
Speaker 1: Him now, I do remember him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jermaine Burton is he's he's an interesting player where
Speaker 2: for all four years of his college career he contributed
Speaker 2: for really good teams, blue blood playoff championship contender. Started
Speaker 2: his career at Georgia all and then you know, went
Speaker 2: over to Alabama. All four of those years had four
Speaker 2: hundred plus year seasons, four and a plus yard seasons,
Speaker 2: including as a freshman at Georgia, So you know, and
Speaker 2: you're talking, you know again, really good tea teams. But
Speaker 2: he never topped eight hundred yards. So he was a
Speaker 2: contributor but never the star. But you mentioned sort of
Speaker 2: the offensive environment he was in last year. Jalen Milroe,
Speaker 2: He's a Jylen Milroe, fabulous athlete, not the precision pocket passer.
Speaker 2: I think that Jermaine Burton's game is going to greatly
Speaker 2: play up with a quarterback who is accurate. The things
Speaker 2: you like about Jermaine Burton really really good route runner.
Speaker 2: It is so clear that he has been with the
Speaker 2: best of the best that college football has to offer
Speaker 2: as far as coaches over the last four years. You
Speaker 2: see on the field that guy is a competitive dog,
Speaker 2: and you can extrapolate that he is the same in practice,
Speaker 2: a guy that wants to improve every day. And the
Speaker 2: first three years of his career when I was watching him,
Speaker 2: like heading into last year, I talked actually with an
Speaker 2: agent about Jermaine Burton last summer and my sort of
Speaker 2: take on him at that time was like, yeah, he's interesting.
Speaker 2: You know, he's but like, you know, the upside I
Speaker 2: just wasn't sure was there at that time. But he
Speaker 2: showed something to me this past year. He took his
Speaker 2: game up to another level. The athleticism is certainly there.
Speaker 2: Nine zero six raz he had the four four five
Speaker 2: forty with a thirty eight to five vert, got over eleven.
Speaker 3: Feet in the broad jump.
Speaker 2: He has the explosion with the speed you know you
Speaker 2: were mentioning that explosion and the acceleration I also love
Speaker 2: in conjunction with that and the speed. He's a glider
Speaker 2: on the field, and you have that with the route
Speaker 2: running know how, and it just makes him really really
Speaker 2: difficult to stay with. So he makes himself available to
Speaker 2: the quarterback. And then I love I love those guys
Speaker 2: that are competitive, you know that are are getting up
Speaker 2: there in the corner back and yeahpen and different.
Speaker 3: Stuff like that.
Speaker 2: He's just a vibes guy out there on the field.
Speaker 3: So you love stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Because he contributed all four years at you know, four
Speaker 2: teams that were contending on the highest stage possible in
Speaker 2: college football, you know that he's a guy who is
Speaker 2: going to get drafted and then immediately going to the
Speaker 2: NFL and be able to contribute played on the perimeter.
Speaker 2: He's going to be able to go on the boundary
Speaker 2: right away in the NFL. Jermaine Burton's a good player.
Speaker 2: I have him a little bit lower than you wide
Speaker 2: receiver fifteen, but I certainly respect his game quite a
Speaker 2: bad man.
Speaker 1: I just I'm so curious where he goes in the
Speaker 1: NFL draft because I feel like some team is gonna
Speaker 1: get a freaking steal. And I'm not even gonna break
Speaker 1: into all the off the field stuff and I know
Speaker 1: people have concerns about off the field stuff with him. Look,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna simply talk about players, their skills, skill levels,
Speaker 1: their talents and stuff, because I'll leave all that for
Speaker 1: everybody else to speculate. But again, just wrapping up Burton
Speaker 1: strong freaking hands man, especially at the catch point. His
Speaker 1: collegiate career, he had a two point eight percent drop
Speaker 1: rate for that is freaking fantastic, as well as a
Speaker 1: fifty two point six contested target catch rate. So Burton,
Speaker 1: I just look at him and like he's he's a
Speaker 1: complete wide receiver man, and he's being shoved into this
Speaker 1: field stretcher role or this box, and to me, he
Speaker 1: doesn't fit in that box. He is a better and
Speaker 1: more complete player than if you're talking about him just
Speaker 1: being a field stretcher in the NFL, where that's all
Speaker 1: he brings to the game. I'm going to emphatically implore
Speaker 1: that you go back to the film and you watch
Speaker 1: him again because you're missing something. But over to the
Speaker 1: next wide receiver we're gonna discuss here man, and for
Speaker 1: the first of the Washington guys, we're gonna bring up
Speaker 1: here wide receiver sixteen per consensus Jalen McMillan. Thora, I
Speaker 1: know you got some interesting thoughts on him, and I'm
Speaker 1: kind of I'll kick this off before I run this
Speaker 1: to you. Man, I'm kind of surprised that he is
Speaker 1: behind Jalen Polk in the consensus and because, to be honest,
Speaker 1: both of these guys are in the same exact ranking
Speaker 1: territory for me, like I've got them hugged up next
Speaker 1: to each other as wide receiver nineteen and wide receiver
Speaker 1: twenty in my ranks. But what are your thoughts for
Speaker 1: Jalen McMillan. And I mean, I don't want to discuss
Speaker 1: these guys together because McMillan's at wide receiver sixteen. Polk
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to eventually, but it's probably gonna happen anyway. Man,
Speaker 1: what's your thoughts on McMillan.
Speaker 2: Well, with your permission, I actually would like to tell us together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead. I mean, I can't see him put
Speaker 1: any rules on you for this show.
Speaker 2: So do you think so Polk is is consensus wide
Speaker 2: receiver PUL thirteen.
Speaker 1: Yes, Polk is a wide receiver thirteen. And I don't,
Speaker 1: for the life of me understand why that far.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna say this right
Speaker 2: from the get I disagree with that. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: discuss so last spring in Deebro, you'll recall this Tennessee,
Speaker 2: Jalen Hyatt had the Round one buzz throughout the process,
Speaker 2: and Cedric Tillman he was seen as sort of the
Speaker 2: mid round afterthought, And you know, we sort of spent
Speaker 2: the process arguing that Tillman was in fact a better
Speaker 2: player and prospect. The only reason that people thought differently
Speaker 2: was because Tillman had gotten hurt his last year on campus,
Speaker 2: which gave Hyatt the chance to break out during the
Speaker 2: underbelly of Tennessee schedule. This year, Jalen McMillan is Cedric
Speaker 2: Tillman and Jalen Pulk is Jalen Hyatt.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's so beautiful. That's that needs to be hung
Speaker 1: in the louver. That's a wonderful take. Go ahead.
Speaker 2: Let me give you guys some stats. In twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: McMillan and Roma Dunsay were virtually indistinguishable as Washington's top
Speaker 2: wide receiver. In fact, McMillan had four more catches than
Speaker 2: Roma Dunsay and two more touchdowns, while at Dunjay had
Speaker 2: forty seven more yards.
Speaker 3: Polk was by.
Speaker 2: Far was way behind as wide receiver. Three was the
Speaker 2: clear after thought. Those things change in twenty twenty three
Speaker 2: only because Jalen McMillan had a knee injury against Michigan
Speaker 2: State in September. That injury cost him either the entirety
Speaker 2: or almost the entirety of the next eight games, so
Speaker 2: it wiped out the next two months of his season.
Speaker 2: It would be over two months before he would play
Speaker 2: in a full game again. And and you know, so
Speaker 2: you're wondering why has McMillan been undersold this process.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why.
Speaker 2: It's because analysts are basing their assessment of Jalen McMillan
Speaker 2: on his twenty twenty three tape.
Speaker 3: That is flawed process.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, the good for the good of the Washington Huskies.
Speaker 2: Jalen McMillan attempted to cut it out and return for
Speaker 2: games against Stanford and Oregon in October.
Speaker 3: Before he was healthy.
Speaker 2: Okay, so then he had to leave those both of
Speaker 2: those games immediately because his knee still wasn't up.
Speaker 3: To the task. He wanted to come back early on.
Speaker 2: It would be until November twenty fifth against Wazoo, when
Speaker 2: McMillan was finally able to return and play a and
Speaker 2: I'm using rabbit air quotes here, a full game. He
Speaker 2: clearly wasn't one hundred percent even still then, but he
Speaker 2: did catch five balls for like twenty five yards. It
Speaker 2: was more like a decoy, and then he could do
Speaker 2: sort of short stuff.
Speaker 3: He still wasn't able to do the full thing.
Speaker 2: But this is an extremely tough kid who you cannot
Speaker 2: judge off the latter half of his twenty twenty three
Speaker 2: film because of that context, debro, let me give you
Speaker 2: another stat here. So, Jalen McMillan and Jalen Polk were
Speaker 2: on the field together at Washington for twenty games the
Speaker 2: past two years.
Speaker 3: When Jalen McMillan.
Speaker 2: Was healthy for a full game, okay, when he was
Speaker 2: healthy for a full game, and Polk was there twenty
Speaker 2: games the past two years.
Speaker 3: I want to give you both of those guys' stats
Speaker 3: in those twenty games.
Speaker 2: Jalen McMillan in those twenty games one hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: four catches, sixteen hundred and fifty seven yards, fourteen touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Jalen Polk stats in those twenty games, sixty eight catches, twelve.
Speaker 3: Hundred and ten yards, nine touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Y wasn't even close. Wow, it was not even close.
Speaker 2: McMillan's tape you go back to twenty twenty two. When
Speaker 2: you have that is when you can accurately judge Jalen McMillan.
Speaker 2: That tape shows a slot receiver with an extremely advanced
Speaker 2: understanding of route running. I appreciate his his work against
Speaker 2: zone in particular, finds the open grass, immediately flashes himself
Speaker 2: to the quarterback in quick order. He's a clever route
Speaker 2: runner who baits defenders one way to go the other.
Speaker 2: He is a build up speed guy, but he has
Speaker 2: the downfield utility when he gets a free release with
Speaker 2: some with the open grass in front of him, and
Speaker 2: then he's showing the ability to track the ball downtown
Speaker 2: so he can make the plays in that third sector downfield.
Speaker 2: He also because of that threat, you have to play it.
Speaker 2: You know, you have to respect his ability to make
Speaker 2: plays down the field. And the thing that he can
Speaker 2: do off of that is stop on the diamond, come
Speaker 2: back to the ball. So those are the sort of
Speaker 2: two things that he can do off of that. He
Speaker 2: has really good hands regularly speared balls outside of his
Speaker 2: frame in college. One undersold thing about Michael Pennix's tape,
Speaker 2: which deebra you and I have talked about, the accuracy
Speaker 2: was not always pinpoint, so sometimes it would be outside
Speaker 2: the guy's frame. McMillan did a really good job of
Speaker 2: reeling those things in and then turning around becoming the runner.
Speaker 3: Nitpicks about him.
Speaker 2: Lacks the play strength, he can be jarred off his route.
Speaker 2: You do want him in the slot because if he
Speaker 2: was on the outside, the press coverage would give him trouble.
Speaker 2: But in the slot he's fine. He's gonna get his
Speaker 2: free releases on that. And he's also not great and
Speaker 2: contested catch his situation because of the lack of play
Speaker 2: strength and stuff like that. The only other thing not
Speaker 2: a huge yak threat. But overall this is this is
Speaker 2: a guy who is a really good He projects for
Speaker 2: me to be a strong NFL starting slot guy. For me,
Speaker 2: he is a better prospect than Jalen Polk. You don't
Speaker 2: have to listen to me. Listen to what you heard
Speaker 2: from Washington. Listen listen to Kaylin de boor listen to
Speaker 2: Michael Pennix Deep bro with with your permission. I'm do
Speaker 2: you mind if I go right into to Polk or
Speaker 2: you would you like to respond to the McMillan stuff first.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just let me wait in on McMillan here, and
Speaker 1: then let's dive into Polk here. So, and to frame
Speaker 1: this for everybody, So, Jalen McMillan is the wide receiver
Speaker 1: sixteen per consensus on NFL Man Draft database, and Jalen
Speaker 1: Polk is the white receiver thirteen. In my ranks, they're
Speaker 1: right back to back with each other. I have McMillan
Speaker 1: wide receiver nineteen and Polk at twenty. I agree with
Speaker 1: almost everything you freaking said Thor McMillan. Again, if you're
Speaker 1: watching the twenty twenty three tape, turn it off. He
Speaker 1: wasn't fully healthy. He looks like somebody trying to run
Speaker 1: in mud. He's he had no kind of foot speed.
Speaker 1: I mean, he basically was just a catch and fall down.
Speaker 1: Could not separate just one versus underneath coverage, could not
Speaker 1: break tackles. It was twenty twenty three tape was bad.
Speaker 1: And but again it's because he's gutting through a knee injury.
Speaker 1: If you turn on twenty twenty two, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: Emphatically build up speed best in the slot. He will
Speaker 1: not play on the boundary in the NFL straight up,
Speaker 1: because his play strength is not there, man, and it
Speaker 1: shows up in the routes. You could push him off
Speaker 1: his routes. It shows up at the catch point. You
Speaker 1: talked about a twenty. He only secured twenty percent of
Speaker 1: his contested targets in college.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Also there is some drop issues. And again we could
Speaker 1: talk about ball placement and Michael Pennix for days, but
Speaker 1: on McMillan, I don't disagree with you at all. I
Speaker 1: think he's a big slot in the NFL. I think
Speaker 1: he's a better prospect than Polk. My com for him
Speaker 1: was Marquise Lee. I do not think that he goes
Speaker 1: as high as Lee did in the draft. Now, nobody's
Speaker 1: projecting that because again smaller school, not USC things like that.
Speaker 1: I think he's probably a round four, round five grade
Speaker 1: for me. But anything else to tie a bow on
Speaker 1: for McMillan, but that I just ran through and yeah,
Speaker 1: let's kick it to pulk Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I had McMillan as sixteen wide receiver. Sixteen,
Speaker 2: I have Jalen Polk as wide receiver twenty.
Speaker 1: Hand holding with that then yeah pretty much.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Polk came over from Texas Tech, transferred over to Washington,
Speaker 2: didn't break out well, breakout again, I'm using the air quotes.
Speaker 3: Thirty was the first year that he contributed. I guess
Speaker 3: see me today.
Speaker 1: McMillan injury and an injury plague season to break out,
Speaker 1: we'll say that, yes.
Speaker 3: And that was his fourth year.
Speaker 2: So last year twenty twenty three, that was the year
Speaker 2: where he had eleven hundred and fifty nine yards in
Speaker 2: the nine touchdowns. But that was the one year where
Speaker 2: it was the standout season. Is his fourth year on campus.
Speaker 2: So that's what's led to a lot of hype for
Speaker 2: Jalen Polk. I've seen him in the top ten list
Speaker 2: for some analysts on their wide receiver list.
Speaker 3: I just think that that's rich now, you know.
Speaker 2: I mentioned that he was the clear wide receiver three
Speaker 2: when everyone is healthy in twenty twenty two, and he
Speaker 2: didn't get to break out until McMillan got injured this season.
Speaker 2: When McMillan got injured this past year, Pulk goes on
Speaker 2: for the next five games. He posted one hundred yard games,
Speaker 2: but in the last seven games of this past season.
Speaker 2: So we're talking from the beginning of November on, so
Speaker 2: in the heart of Washington's schedule and then into their
Speaker 2: college football run, the Pack twelve title game, and then
Speaker 2: in the college football run. Jalen Polk had a receiving
Speaker 2: line in those seven games of twenty three catches for
Speaker 2: three hundred twenty five three yards and two touchdowns. That's
Speaker 2: basically an average of three catches for forty six yards
Speaker 2: per game in a pass happy offense. And troublingly, in
Speaker 2: two of those games, even though he played the full games,
Speaker 2: he was held to zero catches one of those games.
Speaker 2: McMillan did play in one of the other ones he
Speaker 2: did not, and and Polk he just disappeared. The thing
Speaker 2: I do like about Pulk and his EVA. You know,
Speaker 2: it's a thing that everybody mentions. His hands are awesome.
Speaker 2: If you put it inside of that kid's catching, he
Speaker 2: ain't dropping it. He will come down with the ball.
Speaker 2: So that that is the thing that you like about him.
Speaker 2: He in college, he you know, they played him inside
Speaker 2: and outside, so he showed that versatility there. But here's
Speaker 2: my thing with his EVA and one of the reasons
Speaker 2: why I rank him lower. I think he said it
Speaker 2: to the slot in the end, I don't think that
Speaker 2: he will be playing on the outside in the NFL.
Speaker 2: He simply is an explosive or sudden enough for the
Speaker 2: boundary in the NFL. And I also worry that consistent
Speaker 2: NFL press coverage is going to give him trouble on
Speaker 2: the outside.
Speaker 3: So for me, he profiles as.
Speaker 2: A non explosive, big slot receiver at the next level
Speaker 2: who separates by altering his tempo and setting up defenders,
Speaker 2: but isn't great after the catch. Basically an efficient player
Speaker 2: who's going to catch what's thrown for him, but is
Speaker 2: not going to give you any explosion or a ton
Speaker 2: of yak stuff. I think this is a cap value player.
Speaker 2: That's why I rank him lower and see him different
Speaker 2: than a lot of other analysts.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you. You were so on the
Speaker 1: nose with him being a slot wide receiver in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And I'll also throw this back. I think he was
Speaker 1: a slot wide receiver in college. That's all he basically was.
Speaker 1: And let me quantify that all of those routes on
Speaker 1: the outside and all those snaps on the outside are
Speaker 1: false and fake window dressing. Because most of that stuff
Speaker 1: happened in bunch sets where he's the second guy in
Speaker 1: that set, he's getting the off coverage, or they were
Speaker 1: moving him the emotion, so again he was facing off coverage.
Speaker 1: So basically, we're talking about a wide receiver that masqueraded
Speaker 1: as a part time boundary receiver. But if you go
Speaker 1: turn on the film and see how he was actually used,
Speaker 1: he really wasn't a boundary receiver. Like did he line
Speaker 1: up with the outside? Sure? Are you gonna post that
Speaker 1: up and say he can do do that in the NFL? Hell, No,
Speaker 1: there's no way, dude. And a lot of this is
Speaker 1: they hid him that way because you talk like you
Speaker 1: mentioned it Thor's His releases need refinement. His burst is
Speaker 1: average at best. They had him running out and ups
Speaker 1: at freaking Washington, and I'm like, why you're throwing back
Speaker 1: shoulder balls on out and ups or he he's got
Speaker 1: a guy in his back in his back pocket the
Speaker 1: entire time because he doesn't have the requisite burst or
Speaker 1: the raw speed to create separation running these types of routes.
Speaker 1: He's a big slot and he's not gonna be a
Speaker 1: great one in the NFL. Man, Like, I don't see
Speaker 1: him playing the boundary, and I mean there's really again
Speaker 1: we go. Him and McMillan are extremely similar players in
Speaker 1: a lot of aspects, and people don't look at them
Speaker 1: that way, and I don't understand why they're basically what
Speaker 1: and what as far as skill sets. There is some
Speaker 1: tran like some differences in their games, but both of
Speaker 1: them project as big slot wide receivers to the next level.
Speaker 1: And the only difference that I see really in Polk's
Speaker 1: game versus McMillan's is that he's just way better at
Speaker 1: the catch point. He's not a great separator, he doesn't
Speaker 1: have a ton of twitch, and I'll say Polk has
Speaker 1: less quick twitch than even m millon does. So like
Speaker 1: anybody ranking Polk's either their top ten, you're gonna come
Speaker 1: knock on the door, come at me on X or thor,
Speaker 1: and come tell us why you love Jalen Polk so much,
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Speaker 1: tes Walker Man comes with a lot of hype. I
Speaker 1: don't see a ton of sustance. But tell me where
Speaker 1: I'm wrong and what do you think about him? Dude?
Speaker 2: I I have tes Walker ranked as wide receiver nineteen.
Speaker 3: He did have.
Speaker 1: I got wide receiver twenty two.
Speaker 2: Manh yeah, he did have the You know he ran
Speaker 2: the four to three six Salvage a little bit of
Speaker 2: a draft process.
Speaker 3: It did not see out very good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did not have a very good senior ball.
Speaker 2: But you know he put up the nine eighty seven
Speaker 2: ra as at six one and a half one ninety three.
Speaker 2: He's a well built field stretcher, not explosive off the line,
Speaker 2: does have the elite straight line build up speed, downtown
Speaker 2: duties is what you're bringing tes Walker in for it.
Speaker 2: The things I like about him uses his frame well
Speaker 2: down the field, solid ball skals. When he's down the field,
Speaker 2: he needs to clean up the concentration drops out. Running
Speaker 2: remains a work in progress. That is being kind stating
Speaker 2: at me. The way he played only twenty eight games
Speaker 2: of FBS football and only eight in the Power five
Speaker 2: last year. The NCAA was being punitive with him at
Speaker 2: the start of the season when he had transferred over
Speaker 2: to North Carolina from Kent State, so he got a
Speaker 2: very late start on the season. By the time he
Speaker 2: finally got thrown in mid stream, they just asked him
Speaker 2: to run the very limited routes that he was running beforehand,
Speaker 2: So it made it pretty difficult for tes Walker to
Speaker 2: fully flesh out his game or work on that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. So then he was just running the you know, basically,
Speaker 2: like I said, the same kind of stuff for Drake
Speaker 2: May you'd see a lot of the go routes and
Speaker 2: then the comebacks and different stuff like that, but you
Speaker 2: know that was basically, Yeah, you'd see the occasional lazy drag,
Speaker 2: but his overall routes lack pizazz and snap. They're telegraphed.
Speaker 2: It makes it difficult for him to get separation. Usually
Speaker 2: when you saw him open, it was a function of
Speaker 2: the coverage and not something he had done.
Speaker 3: On the comebacks.
Speaker 2: For instance, he didn't see him sprinting full board to
Speaker 2: sell the nine route and slam on the brakes. On
Speaker 2: those routes, you know, he could be going less than
Speaker 2: full speed to make it easier for him to make
Speaker 2: the choppy turn to come back. He's gonna have to
Speaker 2: make to hang his hat initially on the downfield prowess
Speaker 2: that he has, because that's that's the one thing that
Speaker 2: he's bringing to the NFL, and it's the thing that's
Speaker 2: going to get him overdrafted relative to what you know,
Speaker 2: it's overall skill set at this point, then the rest
Speaker 2: of it is going to have to be developed at
Speaker 2: the next level.
Speaker 3: The overall thing.
Speaker 2: You know, it's sexy on the surface, but it is
Speaker 2: an extremely raw skill overall skill set overall.
Speaker 3: That's why I had to rank him lower Debro like that.
Speaker 2: That's the thing people need to understand about this guy
Speaker 2: coming in, Like, you do have this size, you do
Speaker 2: have that speed, you do have the downtown utility, but
Speaker 2: the rest of it is just so raw. I'll toss
Speaker 2: out one other thing about him that I like, just
Speaker 2: because the rest of it's kind of negative. One other
Speaker 2: nuance about his tape that I did notice that that
Speaker 2: I liked about the downfield stuff. He has the light hands,
Speaker 2: which helps him down the field. You know, he uses
Speaker 2: the body well he can get down the field. And
Speaker 2: then he's one of those things where he doesn't telegraph
Speaker 2: to the defensive back until very late that the balls
Speaker 2: come in, so that helps him as well. But the
Speaker 2: rest of it if he doesn't develop the routes, he's
Speaker 2: just gonna have the cornerback playing off of him because
Speaker 2: you're never going to be afraid that he's going to
Speaker 2: be able to beat you on the rest of the stuff.
Speaker 1: M Look, man, I don't have a lot of good
Speaker 1: things to say about Tess Walker. Again, just like you're
Speaker 1: talking about I look at him as a very, very raw,
Speaker 1: situational deep threat, and I don't know if his game
Speaker 1: ever revolves into being anything more than that. I think
Speaker 1: that he's gonna get overdrafted because of the testing metrics.
Speaker 1: And this again goes back to I don't really freaking
Speaker 1: care if a wide receiver runs of damn four to three.
Speaker 1: If they can't get open and they can't run routes,
Speaker 1: you're not going to get open in the NFL. The
Speaker 1: amount of guys in the NFL that you could just say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm faster than you, I'm gonna run by you in
Speaker 1: the NFL is slim. It's very slim. Now. Is he
Speaker 1: gonna have moments because of that speed? Sure? Are those
Speaker 1: moments gonna come on broken plays or they hide him
Speaker 1: in a bunch formation or something. Probably because you just
Speaker 1: don't see the route running process. You don't see the releases,
Speaker 1: you don't see the nuancedence routes. Again, asking him to
Speaker 1: run comebacks or anything where he's got a gear down
Speaker 1: and sing his hips good luck. I know that he
Speaker 1: ran with the raw speed, but it's build up speed, dude.
Speaker 1: So again, if you're out there hyping, and I haven't
Speaker 1: heard the hype much for tes Walker recently, but it
Speaker 1: did earlier in this process, just put some context around
Speaker 1: this tes Walker and see if you really want to
Speaker 1: get your hype wagon buried to tes Walker last year
Speaker 1: amongst all wide receivers of fifty targets, seventy first and
Speaker 1: yards per route run, and it ain't getting better as
Speaker 1: a roll through the page one hundred and seventy seventh
Speaker 1: in PFF receiving grade, two hundred and seventy first in
Speaker 1: YAK per reception. It ain't great, baby, But look he's
Speaker 1: got speed. Think if you want a guy that could
Speaker 1: go run clear outs for you all game, every game,
Speaker 1: every week, then tz Walker's your man. But moving over
Speaker 1: from one field stretcher to a guy that's going to
Speaker 1: make his living underneath and as a manufactured touch guy,
Speaker 1: because that's all he was in college wide receiver fourteen
Speaker 1: Malachi Corley thor God, I want to say something nice
Speaker 1: on this show man, but these ranks are not helping
Speaker 1: us out here. For Malachi Corley, I've got a wide
Speaker 1: receiver twenty one in my ranks. Please tell me you've
Speaker 1: got some love to spread on Corley, although I don't
Speaker 1: think you do.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: You know, dee Bro, he's been getting a lot of
Speaker 2: comps to a very famous receiver and no bad guy.
Speaker 2: You know that is used all over the place, and
Speaker 2: you know a variety of ways you manufacturer touches for
Speaker 2: him and self like that.
Speaker 3: I'm talking of course of Amari Rodgers, the guy that
Speaker 3: I that I can comment.
Speaker 4: No, I'm I'm kidding, of course, No. Well I set
Speaker 4: that you set that up perfectly. That is that is
Speaker 4: my comp uh MELOCHI. Corley has been getting apocry full
Speaker 4: comps to Deebo Samuel. He is absolutely not Deebo Samuel.
Speaker 1: You need if you think he's Deebo Samuel.
Speaker 3: Just out there.
Speaker 2: Amari Rodgers was a guy when he came out, you know,
Speaker 2: he had played for for Trevor Lawrence and was a
Speaker 2: guy that got a lot to hype his process and
Speaker 2: I fought.
Speaker 1: Thirty two years old when he came out of Clemson
Speaker 1: team something like that.
Speaker 2: I remember fighting people his entire process because I was
Speaker 2: saying all they did was just shuttle handoff, like long
Speaker 2: handoffs to him down the line from the slot. He
Speaker 2: he didn't run any roads like the the last season,
Speaker 2: you know, people would They were pointing at Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 2: the amount of screen passes that he threw, but the
Speaker 2: quote unquote screen passes, it was just the shuttling stuff
Speaker 2: off to Amari Rodgers, Melochi Corley.
Speaker 3: He is a running back playing wide receiver.
Speaker 2: His quote unquote catches, they were all manufactured touches like
Speaker 2: the air raid system that he played at at Western Kentucky.
Speaker 2: Obviously a gimmicky system, but his role in the slot
Speaker 2: there was essentially to be the running back in that
Speaker 2: and they would manufacture him the short touches and then
Speaker 2: it would be the yak yardage like Malachi you create
Speaker 2: from here. He has the thick running back build. He
Speaker 2: is a tank after the catch like that's where he
Speaker 2: impresses people and the people that give him hype. What
Speaker 2: they're talking about is when he has the ball in
Speaker 2: his hands. That's where he looks good. Easily led this
Speaker 2: class with forty broken tackles in twenty twenty two. He
Speaker 2: had a bunch last season as well, though he didn't
Speaker 2: play in quite as many games. He has tremendous power
Speaker 2: and balance for a receiver while he's running again, far
Speaker 2: more akin to a running back in the open field,
Speaker 2: which is not a surprise because he began his career
Speaker 2: at Western Kentucky as a running back after he had
Speaker 2: initially signed as a cornerback. So this is a guy
Speaker 2: who made his way to wide receiver once again using
Speaker 2: the air quotes because he's still not a wide receiver.
Speaker 2: All of his production came off screens essentially he does.
Speaker 2: You know, the Deebo stuff comes because he you know
Speaker 2: they'll they'll give him the handoffs and do different stuff
Speaker 2: like that. He can give you utility with that. But
Speaker 2: the issue with him, Deebo. You can do other stuff
Speaker 2: with him, You can do receiver stuff with him. You
Speaker 2: can't do that really with Corley. The only time he
Speaker 2: catches balls down the field. You saw the occasional time
Speaker 2: where they would send him down the field and then
Speaker 2: you know it would but it would be the straight
Speaker 2: go route, right, So be Manufacturer, Touch Manufacturer Touch Manufacturer, Touch,
Speaker 2: Manufacturer Touch, hand the ball off to a manufacturer Touch
Speaker 2: Manufacturer Touch Manufacturer Touch, and then one go ball right
Speaker 2: when when they would get a one on one shot
Speaker 2: with him, and then occasionally he would reel in those things.
Speaker 2: But he's a straight gadget guy that can break tackles.
Speaker 2: The past two seasons, Corley had eighty nine catches behind
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. He led the nation in scre
Speaker 2: three yards both times that stuff wasn't closed. He caught
Speaker 2: the ball just fifteen times twenty plus yards down the field,
Speaker 2: troubling twenty three point five percent contest to catch rate
Speaker 2: last year despite a five point five a dot that
Speaker 2: ranked deebro get this number four hundred and ninety fifth
Speaker 2: in the FBS. He needs to be drafted by a
Speaker 2: team that is going to use him situationally and super
Speaker 2: duper gadget heavy early on, or this could be a problem.
Speaker 2: If you ask Malachai Corley right out to get to
Speaker 2: run routes and win even ten yards downfield, it is
Speaker 2: going to be a problem. The team that drafts him
Speaker 2: needs to understand what Malachi Corley is and then try
Speaker 2: to develop him like, that's that's my whole thing with
Speaker 2: Malachai Cory. I'm not trying to beg on him too much.
Speaker 2: It's you have the run after the catch thing. Understand
Speaker 2: that he's basically right now a running back playing wide receiver.
Speaker 2: The rest of it you're gonna have to to flesh out.
Speaker 2: Remember Deebro, when Leviscus Chanel came in, or Rondo Moore
Speaker 2: came in, some of these manufact extra touch guys, or
Speaker 2: even Amari Rodgers, Like we're mentioning they got too much hype.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to give people realistic expectations for Corley.
Speaker 2: I hope the NFL gives them the same and you
Speaker 2: can try to develop them from there.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with anything you just said. I'll add
Speaker 1: on top that he led the nation and screened targets
Speaker 1: last year with fifty one, which accounted for forty four
Speaker 1: point three percent of his target volume, and that that
Speaker 1: was exactly My comp for him is discount Rondell Moore,
Speaker 1: and he's just a manufactured touch guy that really you
Speaker 1: can't point to route running, you can't point to anything
Speaker 1: outside of Okay, we put the ball in his hands
Speaker 1: and ask him to go break tackles, And the other
Speaker 1: thing I'll say here is that I don't think his
Speaker 1: tackle breaking ability is going to translate to the NFL
Speaker 1: coming from Western Kentucky as well as people think when
Speaker 1: you're breaking the tackles and rest conference.
Speaker 2: To USA last year was the worst conference in college football.
Speaker 2: Western Kentucky played and in a bom nation of a
Speaker 2: strength of schedule.
Speaker 1: For you to put him in the SEC, he ain't
Speaker 1: breaking tackles the same way that he did a Western
Speaker 1: Kentucky Like, I'm sorry, and if you're hyping out there
Speaker 1: hyping Corley, I'm sorry, but this is just we're talking
Speaker 1: about player archetypes and we're talking about usage and how
Speaker 1: you're going to project these guys to the NFL as
Speaker 1: a manufactured touch wide receiver. I just don't see him
Speaker 1: garnering that type of usage, the high end, heavy target
Speaker 1: usage in the NFL, because again, I don't think that
Speaker 1: his game is well rounded and I don't think he's
Speaker 1: a special enough talent to say, Okay, he's going to
Speaker 1: necessitate these touches at the NFL level. So I'm sorry, people,
Speaker 1: but we're just not as high on Malcolm Corley as
Speaker 1: consensus right now, but moving over to a guy that
Speaker 1: again we're talking about. We have been poo pooing the
Speaker 1: last few prospects that we've discussed on here. Now we
Speaker 1: get to talk about a guy we freaking we love
Speaker 1: back and I will kind of do a self own here. Okay,
Speaker 1: I went through mister Ricky Piersoll's tape the first time
Speaker 1: before Senior Bowl, and I didn't have a ton of
Speaker 1: all twenty two to dive into him. So I was
Speaker 1: not huge into him because some of this comes down
Speaker 1: to what games did you watch? How many games did
Speaker 1: you get a chance to watch, and what did you
Speaker 1: think of him? So if you're talking about a sample
Speaker 1: size of one to two games, so I can get
Speaker 1: right ups and I'm looking at this guy's game going
Speaker 1: into Senior Bowl versus now I was able to run
Speaker 1: through his entire season at Florida and really dive through
Speaker 1: his game. Did I love Ricky Pearsol? He's I mean,
Speaker 1: I got a second round grade on him. He tested
Speaker 1: like a monster at the during the process, and you
Speaker 1: turn on the tape, man and it's nuanced route running
Speaker 1: for freaking days, head fakes, jab steps, reading leverage, using
Speaker 1: all of this to his advantage. He is a versatile
Speaker 1: wide receiver that can offer you inside outside versatility. He
Speaker 1: is a monster at the catch point. I mean, dude,
Speaker 1: that that catch that he came down with versus Charlotte
Speaker 1: just needs to get put on a loop when they
Speaker 1: talk about him at the NFL Draft when he gets
Speaker 1: selected in the second round of the NFL Draft, just
Speaker 1: put that one catch on a loop and just keep
Speaker 1: it playing. Keep it playing, baby, because he freaking deserves it,
Speaker 1: because it is magic. It is total magician skills. But thor,
Speaker 1: before I give you my comp which I know you
Speaker 1: love here, what are your thoughts on pearsaw Man.
Speaker 2: Pearsaw is my wide receiver seven. He should be a
Speaker 2: touch baby. He's my wide receiver seven. To go go ahead,
Speaker 2: go ahead it love it, yeah, and really open the
Speaker 2: eyes with the testing. This kid has had a dominant
Speaker 2: pre draft process that that's what solidified him there and
Speaker 2: the ras actually might have even gone up. I'm looking
Speaker 2: at the updated looks like it's actually closer than nine
Speaker 2: to nine. Now it's the percentile's gone, but the last three,
Speaker 2: so let's just talk about the on field first. The
Speaker 2: last three seasons for Ricky Pearsaw he was the wide
Speaker 2: receiver one for Jayden Daniels. We know Jayden Daniels at
Speaker 2: Arizona State. Then he was wide receiver one for Anthony
Speaker 2: Richardson at Florida. Then last year he was wide receiver
Speaker 2: one for Graham Mertz at Florida. Graham Mertz will probably
Speaker 2: be a Day three guy next year. Then of course
Speaker 2: he's had the you know he was great down in Mobile,
Speaker 2: then goes to Indianapolis and blew the roof off the
Speaker 2: plays with the awesome testing profile, including this speed he did.
Speaker 2: He did the whole gamut of it. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: what's so impressive about the testing. A lot of these
Speaker 2: guys duck the three cone in the shuttle.
Speaker 3: He did not.
Speaker 2: He had the best three cone of any of the
Speaker 2: guys that did at six six four with four to
Speaker 2: four to one speed, forty.
Speaker 3: Two inch vertical for Ricky Pearsaw.
Speaker 2: But on the field, advancefield for route running, understands coverage designs,
Speaker 2: will modify his path to get into the open grass
Speaker 2: against zone, modulates his tempo to keep defenders at bay.
Speaker 2: You mentioned the head and show I love how he
Speaker 2: does that. You know he's got the jittery upper body.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like he under like he puts himself
Speaker 2: in the head of the guy that he's against, and
Speaker 2: so he's always trying. It's like a poker table thing
Speaker 2: where he's always trying to give them false tells. And
Speaker 2: then he has the athleticism as well, and then the
Speaker 2: footwork and different stuff like that, so he's always putting
Speaker 2: these false ideas in their head, and then he has
Speaker 2: athletic trump cards as well. So that's why you see
Speaker 2: him so consistently separate, and just the numbers to back
Speaker 2: that up.
Speaker 3: Last year, Ricky Piersaw.
Speaker 2: Receiving great against single coverage ninety percentile separation percentile ninety first,
Speaker 2: so we're talking the upper levels of this class. The
Speaker 2: truly exceptional hands for Ricky Piersaw. It's probably the best
Speaker 2: thing about his profile. Eighty six point eight PFF hands
Speaker 2: grade last season. Spears balls outside his frame on the
Speaker 2: move with regularity. You mentioned the Charlotte catch. He has
Speaker 2: a highlight reel of one handed catches and just stupid catches.
Speaker 2: He was there's a staple of the sports under Top
Speaker 2: ten the past couple of years, which I had a
Speaker 2: fun time talking to him about when we were down in.
Speaker 1: The ear when you set him up with that, man.
Speaker 1: But he should be man. He should enjoy that. He
Speaker 1: should absolutely enjoy when people bring it up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's yeah, just tremendous hands and he's a kid
Speaker 2: that played both inside and outside in college. I he
Speaker 2: he told us that the NFL had talked to him
Speaker 2: about playing the slot. I think he could do the
Speaker 2: interchangeable thing at the next level. The only question will
Speaker 2: be one nippick about his profile lack of play strength.
Speaker 2: You wonder buck getting pressed. But I think he could
Speaker 2: do the interchangeable thing. But if nothing else, he's gonna
Speaker 2: be a really good starting slot immediately. But I think
Speaker 2: he could handle some boundary stuff as long as you
Speaker 2: can get him the free releases.
Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, man, I think he could play inside outside.
Speaker 1: I think he has the route nuance and the physicality,
Speaker 1: especially the raw athleticism to beat press. I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about it at all. Man. But Ricky Peter saw our
Speaker 1: wide receiver seven of this class and the final guy
Speaker 1: we're going to bring up today, wide receiver eleven per consensus,
Speaker 1: Thor kick us off here, baby with the last guy here,
Speaker 1: Roman Wilson, wide receiver out of Michigan.
Speaker 3: Roman Wilson is my wide receiver ten.
Speaker 2: He's almost five foot eleven one eighty five, so a
Speaker 2: little bit on the smaller side, and not that he's
Speaker 2: not an elite athlete at that size, so that's one
Speaker 2: of the reasons that he gets nitpicked and could get
Speaker 2: picked a little bit lower than maybe I'm going to
Speaker 2: argue that he should. He was seventy fifth percentile in
Speaker 2: terms of that. But extremely fluid on the field, and
Speaker 2: the thing that his athletic profile has, it's the speed
Speaker 2: four three nine speed. He's got quicks on the field
Speaker 2: out of that out of the slot as well. Assignment
Speaker 2: minded player who Michigan's NFL staff greatly trusted.
Speaker 3: He was the focal.
Speaker 2: Point of the design timing concepts in all the high
Speaker 2: leverage situations for Michigan's offense. They it was a run
Speaker 2: first offense, but when they were throwing it was the
Speaker 2: third and lungs. They were often going to Roman Wilson
Speaker 2: beyond the sticks in those situations, and he often came through.
Speaker 2: He's not great in true contested situation due to his
Speaker 2: body composition, but he has the concentration in hands to
Speaker 2: make tough catches in congested quarters, and he consistently makes
Speaker 2: plays downfield when he can free himself, so he has
Speaker 2: the ability to make plays at all three sectors out
Speaker 2: of the slot. He's a bursty route runner, tough to
Speaker 2: stay with one on one. I love his ability to
Speaker 2: throttle up and down at will, changes directions fluidly without
Speaker 2: losing momentum. He's good at finding the open spot against
Speaker 2: zone squats for his quarterback quick, quickly, very reliable hands.
Speaker 2: Only had one drop in zero fumbles during the run
Speaker 2: to the national title last year, only two and zero
Speaker 2: respectively the year before that. His counting stats for sure
Speaker 2: suffered due to Michigan's off the run first ethos and
Speaker 2: then of course the starters got pulled in a bunch
Speaker 2: of games last year because they were flogging teams in
Speaker 2: the blowouts.
Speaker 3: But Wilson's value where.
Speaker 2: You can see, you know, it's sort of like JJ McCarthy,
Speaker 2: where when you start to look at the per play
Speaker 2: stuff and the efficiency stuff, that's where he starts to shine.
Speaker 2: And Wilson last year number one in the FBS amongst
Speaker 2: all receivers and expected points added per route run. He
Speaker 2: was also top ten nationally in QB rating on targets.
Speaker 2: You know, a couple of nitpicks doesn't break a ton
Speaker 2: of tackles.
Speaker 3: Isn't a huge.
Speaker 2: Jack threat, but he's super duper reliable, super efficient. Slot
Speaker 2: must be accounted for. And like I said, Ken win
Speaker 2: at all three levels of the field. He's going to
Speaker 2: start immediately in the NFL and he's going to contribute
Speaker 2: for a very long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I mean I like his game. I definitely
Speaker 1: I think the shortcomings of his game. He wins basically
Speaker 1: with speed, speed, speed, speed, and he can do it
Speaker 1: and he's got the four to three speed. But like
Speaker 1: you talked about, you appreciate his game because again, the
Speaker 1: the per route metrics are really strong with him twenty
Speaker 1: ninth and yards per route run twenty second in PFF
Speaker 1: receiving gray last year outside of you know, not having
Speaker 1: the volume counting stats, which we've talked about for days
Speaker 1: with Michigan's offense and adding context there. But the way
Speaker 1: he wins is with speed, and you talked about him, man,
Speaker 1: he is going to be a starting slot wide receiver
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Could you put him at some Z
Speaker 1: and considering can he beat guys off the line and
Speaker 1: stretch the defense? Yes, I think he can do that.
Speaker 1: But you're not going to ask Roman Wilson to generate
Speaker 1: a ton of YAK, break a ton of tackles. He
Speaker 1: can generate yak via the speed. But why we're talking
Speaker 1: about him as a starting slot wide receiver outside of
Speaker 1: the fact that he did have a sixty percent collegiate
Speaker 1: slot rate, is that he struggles to play through contact
Speaker 1: in his routes and break tackles and it shows up
Speaker 1: on his film. So you're not gonna put him outside
Speaker 1: and if he gets pressed at the line, he's probably
Speaker 1: gonna have problems. And we saw some of that immobile
Speaker 1: as well. But if you're asking Roman Wilson to do
Speaker 1: what he does, put him across the middle of the field,
Speaker 1: put him in space, and let him go run away
Speaker 1: from dudes and beats on coverage. He can do that
Speaker 1: for you. I've got a round three ish kind of
Speaker 1: grade on him. I think he probably goes anywhere between
Speaker 1: round three round four of the NFL draft, depending on
Speaker 1: how team that they love him. I mean, you talked
Speaker 1: about the four to three speed. It's all over his tape, man,
Speaker 1: But a kid that I like, where did you have
Speaker 1: him as wide receiver? Ten? Right, Thor, Okay, and I'm
Speaker 1: not far off of you, like I've got him in
Speaker 1: the same kind of general area. I've got him at
Speaker 1: wide receiver thirteen. Man, So again a player that we
Speaker 1: both can like, we both like, but he is going
Speaker 1: to play a certain role in the NFL. But Thor,
Speaker 1: this was a blast of an episode. Man. We ran
Speaker 1: through all of these wide receivers wide receiver eleven through
Speaker 1: twenty per consensus again. Before we get up out of here, man,
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